Bring the Pain Presents | Subscriber Spotlight: Tips - Bring The Pain

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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So let's get to it. What's up everybody? This is
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(00:25):
you and Doctor Rhodo this week. Yeah, as you can see,
I'm doing another subscriber spotlight and this week it's gonna
be Tips. What's up? Tips? How you doing it?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Hey? Good yourself?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Man, I'm doing good, man, I'm I'm totally excited. I
of course just got out of karate, so I am
over excited. I have a lot of energy going through
me right now. But hey, that's what makes the best
kind of podcasts.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Right there, we go, all ready to go.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
So I'll do it a little intro so everybody that's
just getting on or just listening to this or watching
this right now. Tips is a long time subscriber at
doctor Roto. Not only is he a long time subscriber,
he's one of the more active community members. Also one
of the more active members that actually pushes us to
even be better as experts. Tips, every single week, you

(01:18):
bring that pain when you do your dfs. You got
your lives in there and that what's your process? What
do you like to do.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
That's a good question. So first off, thank you for
having me, and thank you for all the wisdom and
advice you give me and everyone of Doctor Roto. So
I gotta have a little system. So I like to
not only listen to the Doctor, all the articles on
the website, and then the discord. I also tend to
listen to Fantasy Radio on Sirius XM. From there, I

(01:53):
like to have a big whiteboard here. I don't know
if you can kind of see it in the background.
What I'll do is I'll write down all the games
as and I'll write down notes from what I see
from the previous weeks. I also write down notes from
the articles or from what people are saying within the industry.
Then as it gets closer to the games, I like

(02:14):
to write over unders, whether coverage, matchups, et cetera. I
listened to the Friday podcast, I listened to Doctor Roto
on Saturday morning, I wake up super early. Then I
listened to your show Bring the Pain, and then recently,
towards the end of the season, I started listening to

(02:37):
the I'm Sorry, the show that Johnny Danger does.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I also like to I also like to listen when
I listen to Doctor roto the one week season and
the other guests he has on. So I like to
hear all your guys is like fight, go pick up
the week and your locks of the week, and I
use that and start creating my own lineup. And then
when I go into creating a lineup, I like, I

(03:05):
have a few key rules that I came up with.
So I like to correlate my running back with my defense.
I like to I like to gamestack now. I tend
to target the highest scoring total games and yeah, just
quarterback correlation with their pass catchers or tight ends. I'm
more of a double tight end guy. I feel like

(03:28):
using two I know it's not a big thing, but
using two tight ends, you're paying down lower so you
can pay higher up for the high price guys. But
paying for high priced guys, you sometimes it is better
to pay low and have money left over on the
table than to try to get all the all stars
in there, because sometimes the lower guys tend to have

(03:49):
outshine the higher price guys. That's so, yeah, it's a
big process, but it's fun and I love it. I
love it.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
You know. That's the one thing I think a lot
of people get lost in translations sometimes that they look
at the money and they want the money. We all
want the money. But for me, it's always been a challenge,
a challenge to go head to head every single week
against some of the best players in the industry that
are putting in either twenty to one hundred and fifty

(04:20):
to two hundred lineups to your one, two three, and
just seeing what we can do with one percent of
what they're trying to do, mind you, using all the
computers and everything. But for me, I love it. That's
exactly what I do. Of course, you hear docs talk
about it. Tuesday lineup, don't change your Tuesday lineup. So
I always try to make sure that when I first look,

(04:40):
I get that Tuesday lineup. Hence that the Wednesday show
when they do the first first look. And then you
did bring up John Danger's single Entry show, because that
single Entry show was really key because you get your
single entry, you get Steve's craziness with the GPPs. Mostly
single entry is well too, and then I try to

(05:02):
always be that cash guy so you get all that
righted the weekend at the last moment for anything that's moved,
because sometimes these questionable tags are all there all week,
so everybody weighs on them. Now that information is outdated.
So therefore that's why I love my show being on Saturday,
because it allows me to give the best information to

(05:22):
all of you without having to come back to be
like hey, correct.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
And it's all data base and we all have access
to the same data, you know, and it's you know,
there is you know quite you know, like you said,
questionable tag, someone gets injured, their sickness, et cetera. But
at the end of the day, it's datas and if
you can learn how to process data and read it
and correlate it with the lineup, you're really giving it
your best. And myself, I'm more of a single entry

(05:50):
GPP pick up player. Specifically, I play in a contest
with about twenty or so friends and it's a twenty
dollars buy in, winner take all, so I focus heavily
on that and that's what I try to win every
each and every week. And like you said, you know,
you just got to kind of learn to read the

(06:11):
room and the players you play against, and you kind
of learn who will go where, and so you try
to you got to be zigging when everyone's zagging.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, and you know so in this industry that everybody
is zigging when they zag. That's where some of the players.
That's why some I always just want tight end. That's
one of the thing is just like when it comes
to tight ends, everybody's going to be mostly on the
same people. Hence Trembled two weeks ago, when he's your
one percent owned, I'm just in on him because game
atmosphere was great, it looked good, and it was just

(06:41):
like when Doc goes he's the lad Whisperer. It's kind
of like that's with me with tight end. So then
you know I'm gonna go down nail a twenty five
hundred dollars a tight end. And you already know my style.
I love running backs, so I try to get most
running backs because I'm building a cash game lineup and
I need at least fifteen to twenty touches, not eight

(07:01):
to seven targets, even though that will pay off if
they get you know like that, because like Coker, when
I talked about Coker last week, I only gave him
but three catches forty seven yards and a touchdown and
he goes for nine. I mean that's that right, there's
huge and.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Over one hundred yards and yeah, he went off. He
had a great career, good day.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, nine catches, one thirty four, one touchdown and five
percent owned on the major slate. That's the biggest thing.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, if you needed him to cash last week for sure.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, yeah, you needed him. Dobbs helped. I focused on
Watson and then Steve did this way with Dobbs, which
was awesome, and then you know, everything else kind of
went from there with the running backs and everything. Williams
was safe again. I did. I should have definitely played
more atn over Williams, but at the same time, I

(07:57):
went Williams because I knew people were gonna be at
eight ten and I think I gots at twenty two.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, that that was very smart and and I know
your MacHall pick of the week was Jacobs, but he
he didn't really do so hot.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, no, that was that was literally the worst Modo
pick in three years. I mean, he had like, yeah,
sixty yards, but it was like that's not only that's
the only second time this year that hasn't had a
touchdown and so it's like it's playoffs, I get it.

(08:33):
And it just seemed like there was that point when
they went to get Jacobs involved and then they started
missing those field goals and that's why you are out
of the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Man, Yeah, exactly, exactly. Love did ball out and he
had what like more than like what twenty eight fantasy
points or something like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
And he was he was five percent on two.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, yeah, nobody was on him. That's that was wild.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, on Saturday. So it just shows that like people
find their fantasy expert that they kind of like gravitate
towards you get it, But like nine percent on on
a big slate like that. I don't know what these
people are doing. But just with that, just stacking that
game alone, being able to pull those guys and get that,
it allowed me to make some really really banging lineups.

(09:21):
Of course, those two touchdowns last night just sucked because
that just that I think I lot over forty or
fifty dollars between both sites just with that happening, But
I still cashed in place. Pig, How did how did
that affect your lineups this week?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
So I came in eighth place out of my twenty
Team GPP. You know, you really had to nail each
and every pick because the slate is so small and
now it's even smaller coming up this weekend, so you
really got to have have the hitters that that that hit.
So it's you know, it's it's yeah, it wasn't. It

(09:57):
wasn't such a good weekend, but you know, ready to
bounce back. I can bring the pain this weekend.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
That's what it is, man, And that's why I's so
like my strategy is I always just throw the dimes
in the dime, the quarters in the five cents, and
because it's cheap money when there's a draw, the payouts
so high. But when you get some of those lineups
like we had last week on the site and then
what Steve gave away in the subs Only discord, which
is that was amazing. I missed that. I was literally

(10:24):
driving and I'm like, I can't read that, and then
everybody but I was like, damn, I mean forget that
was a badass lineup.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
It was and I was looking at it right before
the contest started and I said, maybe I should just
use this one, and I should have. I would have
would would have.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
You are like alike that way, because we're already committed
and then by the time we see that, we were
already committed to our gig. So that's where sometimes you
can take advantage of players like us just going and
we're not going to get in on that last minute
stuff whatever. But we still balled out and that was
a big thing correct.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
And Steve has been on it this season. He is
such a great player. I give him all the props too.
He's he's awesome.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, I really love Steve. You know, It's it's so
crazy because me and him talk so much after and
then when basketball started up, it really put a lot
of strain on him as well too, because you know,
like he's got to get these articles out, he's got
to get these articles written, he's got to get those
lineups in there. He's just like me in that fact,

(11:26):
where we try to make sure that we have something
in there so that there's always something for all of
you to look at.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Correct correct, And he's been on fire with the basketball
every time his lineup. I am cash and I'm like
and I every time I win, I'm like, and I
should have put in in a higher contest or I
should have done this but hey, I'll take what I
can get. I'd be grateful for anything.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
That's all about that's what we build. We just build
our breakrop man.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
That's correct. Take.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
So you know, you bring up a good point about Steve,
and that's going to this. I looked at a lot
of the ways I did bring the pain, which was
just straight up fast, and I don't even think I
breathed in some of those ones last year, like minutes long,
and I'd be like, yeah, and like Steve, who provided

(12:19):
that other view, that other angle when he says I'm
going to disagree with you. I think it was the
one I can't remember what game it was. I think
it was a Steeler game and he took the other
team's defense and I think they may have got a
pit six or something like that, and he was like,
I'm going to go against you because I'm going to
take this defense because they're just as cheap or a
little more expensive and that. And so sometimes I think

(12:42):
shows need that camaraderie, they need that comeback, they need
to that other angle, because if you always get one angle,
it's going to become bland.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, correct, correct, Because like you said, just is that
is it? When everybody else. Is a game. You got
to look at it from all angles. And there's you know,
it goes much deeper into that. You know, there's coaching changes,
there's you know what player does good against this coverage
and et cetera. Are they played together in high school

(13:12):
or college so he knows how he plays so they
can cover him. It's just it's a lot that goes
into it. You just got to look at it from
all angles. But the one thing you can't do is
paralysis by over analysis they call it. That's the one
thing you can't do because when you start thinking about
it too much, you get tripped up.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
No, you're true, you're true that Sorry about that. Yeah,
you're right about the analysis by analysis, you know. And
that's why I try to keep it to only so
many lineups and only and just hitting both sites and
then just just teeing out. But I think a lot
of this allows us to grow because you know, players
like yourself when I brought up earlier, you know, pushing
us to make better lineups or asking hey, why would

(13:50):
I do this when I know that this might work?
And this is where it's like, all right, well I'm
gonna take this guy win user draw. I mean I
took a zero with I think Muskrat a few weeks ago,
and I was like, man, that guy sucked.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
There with you.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
I'm like, the previous game gets like six seven catches,
a touchdown, long bomb. I'm like, hey, this is great.
Alls he gotta do is just catch one a couple
of balls.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Nope, Nope didn't. They didn't go his direction. Yeah, just
the body.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
It's just a body. I think he might have got
two passes this past weekend, but I don't know. I
didn't play him. I was I went back to Tremble,
and then of course I was huge on a friar
Mooth who didn't even get used.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
No, no, he did not. I was on Shultz and
I forgot who else. But he also went off. It
wasn't Loveland, but it was.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Rae hen Henry, but he didn't go off.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
No, he did not. I got to look it up.
I'll let you know right now.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah. So like Loveland was a huge was was huge
for that slate. So like if Loveland would have been
on those see that's the thing. It's like, okay, so
we get Loveland, you're playing double tight end, like you're
not going to go Loveland.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Right, No, no, so I went, I went Goddard. There
we go.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
So my line up this past weekend was Alan Jacob's, Williams,
Collins H Williams from a wide receiver from the Patriots,
Kula Schultz, Godter, and Chargers. So I got me one
thirty forty two.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
That's that's not bad at all. No, you know, you
bring up like they said, when you go to that,
it's it's like the tick for tack. So that's why
with you know, the attack and the Packers. You know,
my guy that I was I had on was Jayden Reed.
That's the guy I brought up talked about on Saturday,
Watson Reed. Of course we all know Dobbs got it.

(15:47):
So Dobbs actually helped one of my teams grow best
ball go on to the next round. So I was
really happy about that. But now he's out and then
that whole team, and then I had Collins. Collins was
on a roll. Yeah boom.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah. You hate to see anybody get injured, even get
cook anything like that. But I hope all as well
with him, and because that he was stronger than ever.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, and and so I think he's missing this weekend.
What was the injury? I didn't catch it.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Uh. He he got a concussion and he had to
be he had to helped off the field. He walked
off on his own power, but he had to like
he was getting ready to go back in the huddle
and they were like, no, you gotta come off. And
then he got carted off into the locker room.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah that cart That card got me weird. So he
must have been dizzy. And now now they have to
go play New England. Not your best player. Yeah, just
it's it's it's gonna be Bills in New England in
the championship. It just is screaming Bills versus New England.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
You think so, I think. I think the Bronco I
think it's gonna be Broncos and Patriots.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I'm fine with that too.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Super Bowl, Yeah, yeah they got it. They got a
good chance. Yeah, they really do. They look like a
solid all around football team.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Really.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
The only time they really lose is when they're throwing
pick sixes and we're gonna we're turning the ball over,
fumbling the ball over at the one and the two.
So we had a lot of games like that. Of course,
Kyrin Williams feeling that that pain at the end of
that the overtime, we're trying to get that win, and
it just it's just what happens in football, and sometimes

(17:31):
that's what sucks about it. But that's what what brings
us all together in the subsequently discord is that when
we do have a bad day, you know, we're like
all right, like move on. And then just the so
like ed that dude's crazy some of his bets. Dude,
he's like, I'm just gonna ladder this guy. But I
see a method to his madness. I see what he's doing.

(17:51):
He doesn't even watch sports, like pretty sure, he don't
even do nothing. He just BET's numbers. He has a system,
he applies that system to the sport, and he profits
from it.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
That's data, Like I said, it's all data at the
end of the day. And if you're good with numbers
and know how to read data and even just have
basic math knowledge, it's you're gonna do really well. And
that was never my strongest subject. That was in theiagroa
bro for pretty much all through high school. But now
when it comes to football, I'm like, oh, I know
what I'm doing here. It's awesome.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, yeah, And it's like so it's like combining both methods.
It's like a way of being an MMA fighter but
being a fantasy football player using this talent, that talent
being able to pull everything together and to make that
ultimate product. And you are right about the numbers. The
only and I will say this, and this happened this year.
You've seen me type it, talk it, run my mouth

(18:45):
and all that sort of stuff. But the only thing
that the numbers don't always work in is the UFCNE
I know you saw. I was gonna say that, yes, yes,
but of that fight that there's just nothing can explain
when something happens like a quick knockout or a sub
or a stoppage or somebody has a seizer before a

(19:07):
fight and then you're just out that money, You're you're
out it all all so correct correct it. But I
know that you haven't really did too much in the
UFC or any other sports. What other sports basketball seems
to be pulling your goat a little bit. What other
sports do you play for DFF.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
I do fantasy baseball on Yahoo with with some friends,
But as far as doing betting, it's just strictly basketball
and football. I don't know if UFC is betting legal
betting here. I mean, so I'm located in Texas and Austin, Okay,
So I don't know if I can bet via DraftKings

(19:47):
on UFC, but I would love to if it's it
is available.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, so you know that would suck. Is so like
Pennsylvania doesn't do a bare knuckle fighting championship and Jessica Borga,
who was a fire actually champion for them right now,
she's sponsored by t K o Eery my karate place.
So actually I'm gonna have her on soon because she's
really really total cool. So do you know who Jessica

(20:13):
Borga is?

Speaker 2 (20:14):
No, but I can look it up, but she sounds awesome.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, she's really really cool, cool down to earth. She
came up, did a clinic and then she did her stuff.
But she was going in for the title fight against Rankin,
which was Connor. It was Connor McGregor's cousin and it
was Hannah Rankin, and she was Borga was the underdog

(20:39):
because you know, that's the way it is. And I
was like, oh, she went in this and I went
to Benett. It was like a plus two eighty or something.
It was like not allowed. I was like, she won
that title in the first round. And I'm like, ah, yeah,
it does. You can't do that. It's you know, for me,

(21:01):
that was, like I said, constantly challenging ourselves with new sports.
Baseball football always be in the two for me. But
I needed something else throughout the year, and so that
I decided to dive into USC and my buddy, of course, Dan,
he'd never really we never talked to UFC because well
I just didn't make that kind of article. So him

(21:22):
coming in bringing that knowledge and that that's what allowed
me to actually see the numbers slow down because I
knew that would happen. I took the science that I
used for the NFL and MLB applied it to the fighters.
But unlike a batter coming in for two thousand dollars,
that's a lefty against the righty that's going to hit
a home run, lead off home run, whatever not. Sometimes

(21:45):
you can't always take the worst fighter and hope it happens.
But man, sometimes people are just good and people get
knocked up out.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, it's a whole different animal. It's that's that's definitely
willpower it's a whole day beast.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
It is, and that's why I think it makes it unique.
So like if you haven't, if you haven't checked out
this dude, he's fighting in two weeks. His name is
A TEE gatti A so A t E b A
and g A U t I e R. This dude
is a jacked up monster. He literally when he socks

(22:24):
his opponent, they could block it and they just get
floored anyway. And it's like I think last time he
ended the fight, I want to bet ended the fight
under two minutes. What's up?

Speaker 2 (22:39):
No, No, I just blew it and he looks like
a beast.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Don't watch some of those knockouts. But so like what
he did, he just like there was no there was
no positive money line. So I was like, well, if
I'm gonna bet this fight, I'm gonna do this. Of course,
during that card, when I did the actual fight Club,
I did find one bet that worked, and it was
I think it was a It ended up being like

(23:04):
a negative two twenty or negative one eighty, and it
was his knockout bet. So it was just one of
those things that like sometimes and another thing is doing
a lot of these dives into the site and I've
I bring this up, run my mouth all the time
when I find stuff like this I found, I always
find glitches in this. I find a last year, I

(23:26):
found a lot of glitches on the UFC product. So
there's some problems on the FANDUL site that with that
UFC and understanding it, they may have rekindled themselves right now.
But at the same time, you know those if those
exploits are still there, I'm just going to keep exploiting those.
And that's why what makes it so intriguing, because around

(23:49):
one knocked out at plus twenty six hundred just feels
way better than a touchdown at negative two twenty. So
for me, it's that's the play I take on it.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
No, that's very smart. Yeah, you gotta look for those
those betting angles and you gotta be sharper than the books.
And you know, if you have that knowledge and you
can exploit it, smash it at the mortgage.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
The UFC community. It's funny because I never really saw
that much said, and you brought that up and they
were like, put the house on it, put the house
on it, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Like, yeah, boy, yeah, the.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
House on Michael Morales earlier last year. I didn't put
the house up believe that, right. I put all my
money out of a great card. It went a lot
of money at this point, and I put it all
up on Michael Morales for like knockout one two, and
I think they had him at like a plus eight hundred.
This is before they knew Michael Morales could knock people

(24:47):
out right, and they're just going what And he knocked
that boy out in the first round and I'm just
like what, Like I'm every knock out onto one left
handed knockout, I'm like, what is this? And so for me,
it was like I and then I just like literally ended.

(25:08):
But one thing that UFC did teach me was round robining.
Have you been able to experience the round robin or
work with it yet?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
I have not. So I I bet prop, bet on
underdog and on and pick six. And I don't believe
they offer the round robin at least I haven't seen
that option. I do know they offer like if I
do a six leg parlay or eight leg, then if
one of them doesn't hit, they do a pardon. Yeah,

(25:38):
But but no, I don't believe they offer round robin. Yeah,
I think I think prize pigs does, but I don't
use price picks.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, you know, I don't. We can't do that in Pennsylvania.
We can't do People try to like, go me into
these free prize pickings. They're like, well, if you win
a lot of free things, they might give you a thing.
And I'm like, mite, it's not worth my time, exactly.
You know, we barely have enough time to do what

(26:08):
we do now.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Exactly exactly. It's yeah, I got we got a life,
you know, got kids and all of that. Job it's
full time jobs. So this is just a hobby. It's
it's it's fun though. It's a fun hobby. I love it.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
It's fun, it's challenging. Sometimes you win a little extra money,
you know, and that's the fun part. Man Doc says
it all the time. At three dollars in a dream,
I'm like a dollar in a dream. I'm like all there,
one am games, four am games, all day Sundays, Sunday, Monday,

(26:43):
Monday to Thursday, Showdown Slate, I'm all in it, man.
I always got at least some kind of action because
at any point one quarter could win twenty bucks. Now
you're twenty bucks switchers, Why are we throwing that quarter.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Down exactly exactly? And you gotta be persistent with it
because the one time you you don't do it, that's
the time you could have you could have hit.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
That's it, you know. So a long time ago before,
like people were really good at this stuff. I did
it a whole write up on At the time, I
was running under Mary with DFS and I went to
work and my wife woke up and she had a lineup,
and so she goes and she puts this lineup in,
but she didn't really put it in the big contests.

(27:24):
She just kind of did a single entry and then
she dated the twenty five cent and five cent or
something like that, and I'm like, all right, whatever. So
she took my notes and this was she played Tavon Austin.
That was her cheap receiver and Rams defense. Then she
rolled the Steelers. The Steelers destroyed. Tavon Auston had a

(27:45):
offensive touchdown, a kick return touchdown where then helped the
Rams and the Rams destroyed. She scored two hundred and
twelve point on Draft King, like twelve years ago, years ago,
and I was like, she showed. Then she goes, yeah, man,
look at this lineup and I'm like, and my lineup
was like one, and I'm like, holy shit, and I'm

(28:08):
like and I'm like, I gotta get home right now.
What did you play? And she goes these contests and
I'm like, oh no, because she'd have been in my contest.
She'd have won fifty thousand dollars. Oh wow, damn damn.
Wife did that too.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
That's awesome. Congrats to her. Yeah, you never know, you
never know.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
That would have been like playing DK and the Titans defense.
Although why would anybody.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Play the Titans exactly but have a career day.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he had that reason. I speak in
my fantasy football and the guys we've been kind of
like going back and forth, and they know I worked
for doctor, so they come in with their oh the
whle high and muddy. I was like, look, dude, it's
not that, it's not that at all. This is a

(29:07):
challenge that I'm trying to get. I'm trying to talk
to you guys. But then they pissed me off, and
then I'm like, all right, well, dude, picked up Jackson
Dart played the Vikings in a game that meant something
to the Vikings and he got shut down. I was like,
first of all, that was a bad move. And then
I'm like, and then the other guy. I run into
the next guy and he tried to he tried something

(29:28):
fancy with one of the running backs and then he
ended up having Almond Ross Saint Brown get hurt and
then his running back and he started was just didn't
And I'm just sitting there just laughing. I'm like, if
you would have had a DFS service, you would not
have done that. You would not have done that.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
That's what is on Sunday mornings. So you know, just
speaking about seasonal teams, how did you do this year
in your seasonals? I know you probably put it up there,
but for the podcast reason talk about that.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah. So I made this to a championship in for
for for fantasy leagues. Made it to the championship and
one I lost, and my my second fantasy league, I
came in third, and then then the other two I
came in fourth and fifth, So I got I pretty
much got a little bit around, but I did make

(30:19):
it to one championship.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
You know, I love playing fantasy. You know there's a
regular fantasy, you know, and the four groups I'm in.
It's for four different groups of people that I've met
throughout the years, and it's just it's just fun, you know,
like you know, being able to just play with your
peers and see how they think and their logic, and

(30:42):
you know when the every time when I when the
draft ends, I'm like, man, there's so much value left
on the board, and it's like, how are these people
not how are my friends not picking up these players?
And it's just like what's going on? You know, just
to see like how they think. It's like crazy.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
I think that's thing. Even if you didn't read the
articles or anything at Doctor Roto, you didn't listen, just
you going in there, do subs to the Sunday Show
or doing that just because dude, I had Parker Washington,
I had Harold Fannon I do droped Harold fan first
of all. Oh, I was like, why did this dude

(31:20):
drop Harold Fannin? And I was I was being nice
because I do sometimes I do play that God complex
and I'm like, I'm gonna let that guy sit there
for maybe two hours and then if he's there, I'm
gonna pick him up. And so Waiver Wires ran I

(31:43):
went right and picked up Harold Fannin, and then I
picked up Michael Wilson, and then I picked up Parker Washington,
and I'm just like sitting there laughing, and then the
guy's like, the guy's like doing his thing, and he's like, well,
you know, well if you do that. And so like
when I was going back at them, I told them,
I was like, look, guys, you guys left her and Flanning.

(32:03):
You guys left Michael Wilson. You guys left all these
guys on the waiver wire. Davante Adams went down. My
team was weakened. I was five and six at one point,
finished eight and six, and then of course champion in
that league. And I'm looking at these guys and I'm like,
you're leaving all this on the thing, and then you're
going picking up Jackson Dart. Yeah, And so how people

(32:29):
think it is crazy how people think. But I think
sometimes that there's more arrogance in that way of thinking
than actually just taking a step back and thinking do
I want to win money or not win money and
asking somebody else's opinion just to see where you see right.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Correct, correct, And so that situation happened to me similar
Earlier this season, someone in one of my leagues actually
dropped Patrick Mahomes and I was like, like, this is
is this am I dreaming? So I take that, but
it came back to bite me because the week of

(33:08):
a championship semi final, that's when he tore his ACL
and I ended up losing my semi final match.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah yeah, and you know that he got me bout. Actually,
so in my scott Fish Bowl, it didn't pact it,
it didn't catch it. I started out with a lot
of injuries, losing James Connor stuff like that. Other players
for the year rebounded, finished great. I think I was
third overall, but my points got me into the playoffs.
Patrick Mahomes went down, I had two other injuries go

(33:37):
down that game or that week. I missed cut line
by four points. I would have been in the finals,
but I missed cut line by cool points. But at
that point I'm starting Shadore Sanders. Now, yeah, you just can't.
You can't replace it that time, that late in the season,
in a contest that big across the world, you can't

(33:59):
do that. But against if somebody's gonna drop Patrick Mahomes,
And the thing is is like when they dropped Patrick Mahomes,
they probably didn't even have enough sense to understand that
he was probably second or third in scoring in the league.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Correct. Correct. And then so I dropped Patrick after that,
and I picked up oh man, sorry he's blinking on me,
but the quarterback for the Cardinals.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
I was gonna say, jah yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
And then and and that's a super flex league. So
my other quarterback was CJ. Stroud, So you could imagine
I was having CJ. Stroud and Patrick Mahomes and then
so so I was like whoa, Like this is crazy,
Like who just drops Patrick Mahomes like mid season, Like
this is not real.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
It isn't And I and that is why some people go, well,
how committed are you to fantasy football? Well, if you're
putting it, if you're in a high stakes league and
you don't have like a service like doctor Roto, and
you're going against some of the baddest people in the industry,
you're a disadvantage. You have to catch yeah, in correct,
you make plays like that, you'll get eight alive.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
You get exactly so exactly, and you gotta live on
the way over wire. You gotta like see who's out
there who's dropping who for who? And my favorite is
when players have buys and that people start dropping players
on buys for people who are playing, and it's like, no, no,
you just got to write it out, write it out.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter like what happens. So like
even with like ESPN when they did my analysis, of course,
Josh Allen, he's been my keeper for years, and he
got that and there there was a little fireback at
that too. So I got Josh Allen and then my
first because I was I lost the championship to third
and so I won that ship back though, so I

(35:49):
was like, I was like, you better keep that belt
warm because I'm coming back for it. And they you know,
it was Josh Allen. They they didn't have Davonte Adams
as steal. They had Chris A. Lave in the tenth
round as a steal. And then when you throw in that,
I it's a it's a semi tight end premium league.
He went full tight end premium last year and that

(36:11):
scoring was too crazy for him, so he scaled it back.
But I had Juwan Johnson too, so I was able
to start Jawan Johnson, Chris Alave and Harold fan in
those final weeks that were leading up to it. So
it just so when I talk about that, and everybody
has a difer play style. So I'll tell you my

(36:31):
running backs. It was Ashton, gen D, Breese Hall, Jalen Warren,
Kenneth Walker. Now I stacked because the league, the way
the league goes, I can start three running backs or
I only need to start one running back the second
running back spot as a running back, wide receiver, two
wide receivers, tight end, wide receiver, flex. So we see
all these all these different strategies that people use, and

(36:55):
in the running backs in that all of the experts
for the last years have screamed wide receiver, wide receiver,
wide receiver. Where do you fall between the wide receiver
running back in the first round?

Speaker 2 (37:11):
So I prior this past year, I went running back heavy.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, wide receiver heavy because running back
is such a in my mind, is such a volatile
position and in any given week, you know, just like

(37:34):
wide receivers, right, but running backs their longevity is only
a few years, you know once you know, after they
hit their prime, they're just on a decline. But because
they're getting so much mileage on their bodies. You know
what the running back makes in a game. A wide
receiver can have in three catches or a few catches,

(37:56):
you know. So my number one pick this year was
Jamar ch Yeah. And then if I running it back,
depending on who was on the board. You know, on
a lot of my teams, I had Gibbs, I was
able to get Gives in the second or third round,
and then I was able to get Jonathan Taylor in
the second or third round. So you can imagine I
hit on Taylor and Gibbs on one team and that

(38:17):
carried me with Jamar Chase, and then I was able
to bring it back. Was like a Drake London or
you know, have have all these all these these A
plus players and I know on one team that carried
me that I got third place. I mean, this was
such a bad mistake, but I got third place out
of it. I got George Pickens, CD Lambs and Dak Prescott,

(38:40):
so I pretty much had the Cowboys offense. But it
carried me throughout the season, which was great. But I'm
depending it's a year to year thing. But I tend
to lean now more sores wide receivers. They tend to
last a little longer. It's you get more, especially the
yak yard after the catch. Like I said, you get

(39:00):
you get. I feel like you get more points, especially
in PPR formats from a wide receiver than you would
running back. But when it comes to running backs, I
like to target running backs that are past catchers as well.
So I had a lot of r J. Harvey. I
think he was great. He broke out a little mid
to late season, I want to say, but he he was.

(39:24):
He was awesome, and uh, next year, I'm excited for
next year as well.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
So you bring that up with like h and you
know that's that's a running back that can be explosive
all over. But then, of course, like you said, once
he gets going, then all of a sudden boom ankle,
oh boy.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Exactly just the rest of it. Correct's what happened.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
I got him one time for DFS this year and
he got hurt. And I was like, this is why
when I play a player like that, that'll get hurt.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
And I'm like yeah, yeah, And I like to target handcuffs,
especially if you're targeting like I had Djon and then
so I had Tyler Algier. So handcuffs is a big
thing for me, you have to get a handcuff because
it's always the next man up, and all it takes
is that one play for them to get injured, and
you know, the season is takes a whole different turn

(40:15):
for you.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
It does. That's what happened actually in the host league,
because I mean, it worked out for me having Kenneth gainwell,
because but when I lost James Connor and then sixteen
teams against some of the best like Braddock won it all,
and then you know, like everybody else in that league
danger everybody, I'm like, I'm done. I'm done, Like I

(40:39):
only had that, so I had to start game well
in in chumps and I'm sitting here trying to throw
in like you know, whoever, Ty Johnson. I'm throwing in
Ty Johnson and it just like it just didn't work
out for me. So what always, what always gravitates me
towards another case. I think this goes is why I
use this strategy and I'm a cash guy in DFS

(41:01):
is the running backs because like in my championship league,
in my one yahe league, I am actually the back
to back champion now, so I'm trying to break do
something I've never done. I lost the last time that
this was ever done. I lost to my wife and repeat,
and I'm like, what, God, So I had my first

(41:22):
I it was a it was So when I do
my leagues, I do keepers. I build, I go one,
I go zero keepers, one keeper, two keeper, one keeper zero.
So I try to keep that format so that it
keeps the league fresh. Every four to five years, you
getta like you get your play, you build, then you disassemble,

(41:45):
and then you restart. So that's something I've always liked
to do.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Well.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
This year it randomly put me after as a defending
champion at the first overall pick, Bijon Robbinson. Right there,
I'm like, I got bjon. It comes now when I
do these types of drafts. So like most of mine,
people do snakes this Yahoo league because it's a ten

(42:10):
man Yahoo league, and it's always been that way. I've
always ran linear, but on a reset year, I run
snake because I feel that that's more fair than a linear.
So I ran the snake and it got to me
on that second round and I had to back to
back and I was like Jonathan Taylor, James Cook and

(42:33):
these people were like what And I'm like, and Dad's
busted my balls all year. He's like, wellhy didn't draft
of the third round. I said, you weren't the only
one in that draft, bro, they didn't pick any of
those guys. And those three carried me right through the championship.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
That's awesome. That's a good combination.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Every week Cook, it was like either Cook Bijon. Between
those three, I had at least two to four touchdowns
a week.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah, especially Taylor at the beginning of the season, he
was doing three three burgers every week. I was like, oh,
and then it just stopped after the after the buyer
is gone.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
It was it was the Rams game. It was the
Rams game.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Oh yeah, that's what he stopped. I was like, oh,
what's going on?

Speaker 1 (43:20):
He was yeah. I was like, I trusted the Rams
d I was like, come on, and then then and
then the Steelers go duplicate that. You're like Steelers, Yeah,
but you know that's what I That's why I've always
tried to go for that. Also, I remember getting baxed

(43:40):
a lot by dudes. So the one in the one
McDonald I was called by McDonald league the one dude.
We had three keepers back then, and so this one
dude would have Brett Farr. He would have he had
he had a man, who's that guy? Back then? What
Brett for? Jamal Lewis. There was another stellar running back
that everybody had. I'm trying to I'll remember his name.

(44:03):
And he always kept the tight end I want to say.
I want to say not Mark. I think he kept
Mark Chamara. So he had Chewie. Then he would have
Brett Barr and he had Tell Davis and then he
would win and he would have They would always do
a snake pick and he would snake and I was like, this,

(44:24):
dude's got five of the best players in the first
nine to the draft. He got put these these these
keepers out man like or cut him down. This is
too much. We're doo linear because you can't give the
best team with those players during those years. Farv's MVP years,
Super Bowl year and then you got twelve Davis coming

(44:45):
in and he was it was just it was crazy, dude,
I just couldn't do it. Changed, So I try to
be vocal in those leagues.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah, no, that's smart, and that's that is a lot
of that's a lot of firepower right there.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
In the mid nineties, my quarterbacks were trash.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
He had Tony Banks. The one year Brad Johnson I
started with. Brad Johnson was my first, not first pick,
but was my first quarterback. Tony Banks, and I think
all Johnson got hurt in week two and he was gone,
and he always got hurt, and then and he got
hurt and we only had three pickups, so I could

(45:28):
pick up TJ. Rubley, and I picked up TJ. Rubley.
My team got trash, so I fricking devised this trade.
The next year it happened again. I got hurt. This
time he got hurt. So I looked at this dude.
He had Peyton Manning. He drafted Peyton Manning, he had

(45:48):
Kurt Warner, and I go bro, and Peyton was already
taken off. I go Bro, I will trade you for
Kurt Warner. I was like, just I'll do this and
I'll give you a pick next year. It was so
confusing when we got to that point to pick next year,
but we ran it. We did it. I got Kurt
Order and then that's kind of where things finally changed,
where I was able to finally get a quarterback. And

(46:09):
then they we started the reset. Years after that to
kind of stop and stop the people that were building
dynasties getting the snake pick and then just continuously winning
money every single year.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
That's awesome. That's yeah. Kurt Warner, he was he was great.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yeah, that was the year or two I was a
super So I was like, dude, I'll do anything, give
me Kurt Warner. These are strategies in the league that
I talked about that I had Josh Allen. It is
a quarterback heavy league. There is bonuses for twenty and
fifty or forty and fifty yard passes and stuff. But
in that league, in any league, Josh Allen is ben

(46:48):
the best scoring player in Fantasy for the past like
eight nights since he started being Josh Allen. That everybody
knows now. And that's when I drafted him, And that's
what I I talked, shit, and then I go, you
guys could have stop this dynasty. I picked Josh Allen
in like the fifth round eight years ago, and I

(47:09):
haven't paid for this league in eight years and I've
won it three times. And I told him, you have
a chance to stop me, but you choose not to
stop me. And that's what we were talking about earlier.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Correct because you you know, when you're in any league,
you have to understand the scoring format and you have
to use that to your advantage. You know, just like
in draft Kings, you have to understand the scoring format
and then use that to your advantage. And when it
comes to Josh Allen, you know, I'm a I'm a
Saints fan, but I loved I loved Josh Allen. He's

(47:48):
a great player and a great person. I would get
up Bill's jersey just just for him, just because of him,
and I as a fan, I really want him to
make it to a super Bowl and win. I hope
this is the year. But when it comes to fantasy,
you have to separate the fan from from it because
that's that's how you you make mistakes. You have to

(48:11):
see it for what it is.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah, we have a Saints fan in our league and
he just dude. I think I think he took group
A a year or two ago in like the fourth round.
He was like group A. He was like what really,
He's like, Hey, Saints, and I'm like it ain't cute.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Bro, Yeah exactly. And I have a lot of Raider
fans in my in my league, so they're always picking
the Raiders player just because of the Raiders fans. I
don't know if I don't know in your league, but
there's always at least one Raider Raider team name and
an each league I'm in, which is so hilarious.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Up here, it's Pittsburgh Steeler fans, AFC North fans. So
I have in my one league I have there's two
Steeler fans, and then there's Raven fans there might be,
and there's there might be there's a Bills fan, and
there's me Rams and then everybody kind of trickles out.
So it's funny because I've been chilling back watching all

(49:08):
the all and all the league. There's two Cowboy fans,
so they go after the Cowboys. I don't. I just
go I didn't even go for the Cowboys because.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
There yeah, exactly exactly. And you know, I just moved
out to Texas in September of last year, and I'm
I'm originally from LA. So that's why a lot of
my UH players that I played with or my friends,
they are all picking like Raiders or l A teams,

(49:40):
and that's why I in that one league, I went
heavy Cowboys because I said, I'm in Texas and as well,
you know, have fun this year, and so I chose.
I took the three, and they got me. They got
me there carried me. You know. I probably should have
picked a little better, played the way wire a little more,
but I got their place, which is not bad.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
I think sometimes we challenge ourselves. That was me last
year when he went tight in Premium, and I knew
a lot of those players were a lot of the
captains wouldn't be useless on in previews as much. So
my first overall pick was Sambleporter, and I came back
around got the second round. I can't remember who I got.
Third round I came back with. It was Evan Ingram
and he got hurt after like two weeks, and then

(50:19):
I had Strange and so he kind of filled in,
so I kind and then I ended up trading Laporta.
There was a tight end Premium and the dude won it,
so I should have kept Theaporida. So they did Thanksgiving
Davy Raffle kind of thing where the highest scoring tight
end on Thanksgiving gives you the first overall pick in
the fifth round next year. This year, and he got it,

(50:42):
but he traded me Mike Evans, and I was like, dude,
maybe Mike Evan's.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
And then and then they I almost got this one
trade veto and the dude stepped up. I didn't have
to say anything. I traded DeAndre Swift after his Week
two explosion in Philly for Jonathan Taylor when he was
out those first five games. Dudes got so mad. But

(51:12):
to do it was a huge DeAndre Swift fan. And
in the minute they started talking shit on him, he goes, dude,
I'm one and two right now. He offered me a trade.
I'm not getting Taylor back for two weeks that I
know him, and he goes, I need to win now,
and this guy is producing in a great offense now,

(51:32):
and I was like, and then he Taylor by the
end of the year ended up working out. I think
that was another third place finish for me. But the
thing is is, you know, I think people always look
at it this way. If your league pays out three
or four spots, you don't have to play first. You
just have to make amends to try to win your

(51:54):
money back to make it flee the next year so
that when you have those championship ship wins, that's what
makes it more right.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Correct, correct, correct, it makes it more fruitful.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
It does does.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
It's a grind, but it's definitely worth it, and it's
so much fun. It is fun.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Man. I'm gonna get you played in some UFC this
year though, watch man if you if.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
You get yeah, I'm gonna look into it, but I'm
definitely ready for it.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Yeah, because dude, once you start hitting these, you're gonna
be like, oh, that's.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Why he did this.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
And that's what when I was talking about the round robin,
I know, like you said, you can't do that. That's
what led to the practice with the round robin because
I feel, and I've done it, that I can pick
five fighters that are gonna win on most of these cards.
And yeah, I've went four and one and five and
oh and three and two, but when you round robin,
even a three and two will return your money. So

(52:50):
a foreign ones profit a five and oh is crazy good.
So then I applied that to football this year and
it's worked out pretty well, as you've seen into the
uh in the betting channel is and it kind of
it's it's kind of breathed new life into it for me.
Not that I was like stagnant on it, but I
think that, like I said, the whole UFC adding being

(53:12):
able to round Robin then use it for the NFL
and now understand it. That's why I think. That's what
I feel makes a difference in why having subscribers like
yourself push us to that next level making us better
overall all of us.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Yeah. No, and and if you if you prosper the
way we turn my likes and if you eat and we.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Eat, you know, we we cooked, we cook it.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Yeah, yes, yes we are.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Well, I know I've kept you for a pretty much
a pretty while here and stuff like that, and I'm
pretty sure that we could probably go on talking all
this stuff. But man, you know, before we get out
of here, let's let's let's finish up with some things.
So at being with doctor Rodo, What's What's something that
always attracts you to come back?

Speaker 2 (54:05):
The camaraderie, you know, speaking to yourself and everybody else
and on the side or the discord, the you know
and all the analysts that I listened to. Doctor Rodo
breaks it down very Barney style, very easy to understand,
you know. It's it makes sense when he talks, when

(54:28):
he speaks about the games and gives the game breakdowns
and his visionary props. You know. You know, for me
to listen to a show when I was living in
LA I would have to wake up at four o'clock
at LA time, four am on Saturdays. But I would
I would happily do it because I would love listening
to him live rather than listening in to on a rerun.

(54:48):
Now that I'm in Texas, it's six am, which is
a little bit more easier, but I'm still up, you know,
I'm up on Saturday. I got my little notepad, I
got my you know, I'm writing down what he's saying.
I'm you know, I'm picking up what he's putting down
pretty much, you know, So you know, he makes it
easy for us to understand the the the guest that

(55:11):
he has on, like Mike Johnson and did the other
gentleman he has on. It's very easy, yes, yes, yes,
you know. Then they give their analysis and their pick
their locks of the week and and then you know
your show and and the single entry show. It just
it makes it very easy. You know. I will say

(55:33):
that there is another analyst. His name is Jeff Man's
little shout out. Yeah, I like listening to his show.
He's very energetic and enthusiastic. It's it's he's he's funny.
He's so hilarious. Past I listened to it seldomly because
I like to focus my more, but yeah, I have
listened to a few, and he gets he gets very prideful,

(55:57):
he gets very Yeah, he's very he's very up bocal.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Dude. He's like yeah, and I'm just like laughing after it.
And he was like, this guy and this in the
discord wants to come at me. He's like, I'll just
kick you right now. And I'm just I'm like, doctor Rodo.
It's like, but I mean we we did that earlier
when the Steve comment came out.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
That was yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Yeah, it was just like he was like when he
was like, he was like, I don't want to take
the expertise from some guy named Steve. I don't even
know how I got brought into it. I was talking
about it and then dockets like Steve be good. I
was like, why do anything nowhere? I got brought into
and someone was like, let me see your taxes. I

(56:49):
was like, I'm gonna tell you this right now. I
never let anybody see anybody that I win unless it's
really really big or something like that. I'm just that way.
I know that a lot of people do it. I'm
gonna cut it off for gonna blur it out, because
I just I know there's people out there that just
want to see that and try to fire back, and
I just like, this is something I've always just kept it.

(57:09):
I just I'm that guy. I don't want to see
what I'm making. If I get fifty thousand, you'll see
that I hit fifty thousand, and then I'll have the
money to wear off all the other rules that are
going to try and show up outside of that. You know,
I'm not gonna be like, look, I want a hundred
bucks or five hundred bucks or a thousand dollars. Throw
it up because you know, just to me, it just

(57:29):
it brings people to talk shit or you know, randomly,
you're gonna get a service paper, someone's gonna try to
suit you and you're like, wait a minute, what I
didn't do that? Yeah, that's crazy talk. But I just
don't leave myself open for any of that discussions.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
That's correct. No, no, sorry, I mean to cut you off,
but I feel like a lot of people in this
space feel like they need validation, and it's like, you know,
it's like like yourself and everybody else, they're just you're
just giving this advice. You're not telling us to do it.
And it's up to us as players to take that
advice and shape it and mold it and apply it

(58:09):
how we choose. And if we win, we win, and
if we don't, there's always next week. We can't we
can't get mad at no one but ourselves. We're the
ones putting the lineup in. You know, you can share
all your lineups with us everything, but it's up to
us as fantasy players to take that and run with it.
And if it doesn't work, then hey, there's always next week.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
That's right, And that's the thing I try. That's why
I say always play. If you can play the singles,
play the around robin and then that so even if
you go two and five, you still win those two bets.
You'll get those you'll get that parlay for the two
and it'll win some of that money back. And for me,
I'd rather be protected with a chance at big money
then say oh, I'm gonna throw a thousand dollars down

(58:51):
on this knockout and then the dude chokes them out.
So I'm gonna make sure that I take that thousand.
I'm gonna put five hundred on. If they ask my opinion,
I'll be like, well, you could put five hundred one knockout,
but you might want to put two hundred and fifty
on knockout and sub because I've seen some people that
don't get subs get subs this year.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
And yeah, you got to cover yourself. You gotta cover
your bets.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Yeah, that's it. You'll lose money.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Yeah, yeah, it's you know, I've been getting into the
prop betting this season, and I've hit some weeks and
other weeks I didn't do so hot. But it's it's
a it's a learning experience, you know. I on my
whiteboard here, you know, I always write down what did
I learn this week, and then I'll write down what
I learned and I'll just apply that for next week
so I won't make those same mistakes and you just
become a better Fantasy player.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
I love your whiteboard, by the way, too.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
I thank you.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
This is a paper all over the place that so
it's still but what you the fact you have a
whiteboard that just shows because a whiteboard makes it bigger.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Yeah, exactly has to.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Step back and see the whole process as opposed to
me looking at a little pad like over here and
then you crazy stuff. All right, Well, now let's have
one one hard question. If there was one thing you
could change at doctor Roto, would you change?

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Oh that's a great question.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
What's what we do on bring you pain?

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Yeah? You know, and and I mean this was so
much respect, but maybe having a little bit more access
to the doctor himself, yeah, you know, because I know
he's not very active in the discord. It's it's always

(01:00:39):
like yourself or Johnny Danger, Flagel Steve or someone else
fantasy clown. And I respect all of you guys. I
love all of you guys. You're all awesome. But you know,
sometimes speaking directly to the man, you know, would probably
be a little bit not not helpful, reassuring. But it's

(01:01:02):
just you know, just a little bit. You know, we're
describing to doctor Roto, and no offense to you guys.
You guys, you know what I mean. But it'd be
cool to talk to him, be a little bit more interactive. Yeah.
So no, no, no disrespect to anyone or even doctor Rodo.
But you know, just to talk to maybe him in
the discord or you know, you know, that'd be cool,
that'll be cool.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
It is I get that, you know, I know what
you're saying. And you know, maybe maybe next year or
something that Doc can get a free schedule, because I
know his teaching schedule is really crazy. He has a
lot of stuff. You know, he's he does that and
stuff like that. But maybe we can get more instead
of a live show, maybe we can get you know,
like where somebody's in there, or maybe he's in there.

(01:01:44):
He does watch it, but his outside life does keep
them sometimes from that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
But hey, maybe that's eating or maybe another show during
the week, maybe you know when we're doing if you know,
if we figure, you know, get it going, maybe have
that discord, have have the live shows also in the
discord so that the people in the discord can go
in there and check it out in case they missed
maybe the YouTube notification or the ex notification, or maybe

(01:02:09):
they don't have social media in their only form of
social media is the discord. Then maybe get in that
extra few moments and stuff like that definitely would help.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
So no, it's don't feel any disrespected. Thing is is
when it comes to podcasting, when it comes to interviews
or talking to people like that or asking questions like that,
I do want to make sure that we talk, that
we give out And that's why I wanted to talk
to all of you because this is something that a
lot of people don't do, you know, taking a subscriber,

(01:02:37):
talking to them, getting to know them. We know you
already in the thing, but this is about also hearing
what you have to say. So things like that, it
just makes all the more, it makes a better product
all around.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
That's yeah, correct, you are correct in that, and you
guys do an amazing job. And like I said, I
respect all of you guys, and you know, I'm very
grateful for all of you and humble to be you know,
in your presence and you know, thank you for everything.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
It's I feel the same way, man. I love I
think this again, this is why fantasy football is so good.
The Fantasy Football Expo. If you ever get a chance
to go to Kanton, Ohio and experience that weekend, I
swear you will have the time of your life because
it's just a bunch of fantasy football nerds.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
It is so fun, dude, that's awesome. I would love to.
I've always wanted to do a live draft where you go,
you put a name on the board and all right, yeah,
that's that's what I wanted. That's my dream right there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
I got to do that for the scott Fish Bowl
this year. That was my first time. Dudes, I felt
really I brought my best friend of all time, he's
a Chiefs fan, and I went up. I was like
Patrick Maholmes. It was I think it was my fifth
pick overall. But I just love it. Man. That's that's
what fantasy football does. It brings people together. And then

(01:03:55):
that's when you meet like Bob Harris and all the
other guys and and and then you and it's like,
so last year we did we were we were there.
It was the UFC was a bent on and We're
sitting in the gas the Gridiron Gastro Pub and I'm like,
there's a whole table of dudes behind us. Nick Rodocano's
over here, and I'm like, I'm allewe you guys, is

(01:04:16):
right now this dude is gonna knock that man out right,
And they're just all like huh, And like ten seconds
into the fight, whack whack, whack whack and I was
like plus nine fifty. I looked over at Nick Roccano
and I was like, they don't got numbers like that
in football and a smile. I was like, serious, XCM

(01:04:38):
should be covering the UFC. It's a DFS sport, and
he goes, I get it, and then he looks to
the other guy and he goes, yeah, they just don't
do it. He was like, well, what about the Fight
Channel and he goes, they don't do it on that either,
and I was.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Like, yeah, you're right, you're right. It isn't up and coming. Well,
I mean it's so big, but you're right. They don't.
They don't talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Not at all, and that, I feel is a disservice
to all of their customers because I feel that if
you play one DFS sport, there's a good chance you
play another one. And not everybody plays baseball, right right?
Get that USC on there. That's my whole push this
year is to get UFC on series next m.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
That's aw, that's a good push. I listened to a
Busted Open a lot and oh, yeah, I'm a big
w W guy, or I'm big sorry wrestling guy. I
love w W, A w ring of Honor New Japan.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
So you're gonna have to I'm even on a wrestling podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Now, Yeah, okay, I would love to wear my wrestling gear.
I'm I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, we're gonna I've been trying to really
get something back together with the wife and just the
schedules in the fightings. My fighting schedule got kind of crazy.
But I love just talking wrestling. So when I get
a wrestling show together, I'll get a few people on.
We're gonna talk wrestling, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
I've been to a lot of wrestling shows. I always
like to sit floor front rows. I got a bunch
of videos. I was at WrestleMania, but when they were
in La I was ten. I was eleven rows away
from the from the ring on the floor. My last
a w show I got. I got all this. I
got a bunch of signatures on my little bag. I
have a list on my phone of who signed it.

(01:06:18):
But yeah, I got a bunch of videos I was.
I've been to a bunch of pay per views, not
not WrestleMania.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
We went to Summer Slam because it was in Cleveland,
so that was.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
A yeah four so nice.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Yeah, yeah, do you remember Joker Chad caller the caller
Joker Chad. No, all right, well, so he used to
call in a long time ago, back with Tommy g
and Doctor Rodo. Joker Chad lives in l A or
right around there, and Triple He's his dad was the
manager for Motorhead, so true, he knows him right. So yeah,

(01:07:00):
he called me up or hit me up on Friday
night and goes, hey, can you make it to LA
for Sunday? And I'm like, bro, I ain't never been
past Ohio and he goes yeah, he goes Triple H
gave me a few tickets and I'm definitely going Saturday.
But if you can make it here, you can go Sunday.

(01:07:22):
And I was like, Bro, maybe if you would have
called with a week ahead, and I know there was
no way. I was like be able to do it,
but there's no way I'm getting to LA in less
than in twenty four hours. I mean there's a possibility,
but right there's no way I was going to go down.
And that was that was that when you went to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Yeah, oh wow, we could have probably seen each other.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Yeah, what's what's funny is that? So Saturday I went
with my with my with my lady and we were
like on these bleeds. So then I said, you know what,
I'm sorry. I sold our tickets and then I bought
a floor seat by myself. So I went by myself
on Sunday and she's like, but I want to see Roman.
I'm like, I'm sorry. I said, this is WrestleMania. This
is like once in a lifetime type type of event.

(01:08:14):
I was. I was at Eddie Guerrero's final match in
l A right before he passed. Yeah, so that's my
piece of wrestling history. Yeah. A W is actually going
to be down the road for me next Wednesday. Unfortunately,
I'm not going to be able to make it because
it works, but A man, I wish I could. I

(01:08:35):
probably I probably could have got off at five. You know,
I probably could make it, miss a little bit of it.
But but yeah, a W is gonna be here next
Wednesday at the ATV seven.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
They've been running that other promotion first a couple of matches,
and then they've been running it after If it's a
Saturday event, I don't know if it's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
If it's it's a it's a Wednesday event, Okay. Dynamite
Dynamite yeah, they might. They might do Collision because they
always pre tape collision I think before or after.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Yeah, they do Collision live and Eerie here, so then
they yeah, yeah they do that, but they run the
other they run their other promotion at the beginning. So
there could be a chance. But if you can't, don't
push yourself. Yeah, correct, and it's it's it's a good product.
But you can watch it on TV. It's a lot easier.
Didn't take on TV, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
So yeah, like that the commentators and j R Jim
Ross the boat. Yeah, yeah, that's the best.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
You know, I can't believe that. We never really talked
talk talked wrestling before, but now that's just going to
open up a lot of stuff. We'll do that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
So awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
All right then, yeah, well this has definitely got This
is gonna be definitely a part two, a part three
apart four because Russell's huge in my family. As you
can tell.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Oh, man, I grew up. I love you, I love
you to do the mato manboy, that's awesome. My uncle got
me interested when I was when I was younger, so
we would watch Raw every Monday Friday night SmackDown and
then when they brought e c W back for a
little bit on sci fi that was on to that

(01:10:14):
and I just I just rewatched old wrestling pay per views.
My favorite pay per review would have to be row
Rumble A two thousand and the year Crisbin one one
it okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's my favorite. Well, I
know he did what he did, but he's my favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Rest there's a lot of people that believe there's a
conspiracy with that now, so you know, I'm not gonna
say it out there. Things happen. You know, people are
different outside of the ring. It's tragic all around, but
inside the ring you can always still be a fan.
There's still people that are fans of Alberto del Rio.
One of the kids at Karate who I don't need who.

(01:10:49):
I don't understand how he watched Alberto del Rio, but
he remembers Alberto del Rio growing up in that Alberto, Yeah,
don't that's always stuck with him. So he was like,
he comes up to me, he goes, you know, I
know he did a lot of bad things, but we

(01:11:11):
could pray for him, but he was a good wrestler.
I go, yep, I cannot doubt that at all. Yeah,
he was definitely great during his time, so correct.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
You can't deny it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
All right, brother man, it's another fun one before I
get out of here. You got any You got any
goodbyes or hellos or shout outs you want to shout out?

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
No, thank you. I appreciate how you having me on here,
Appreciate your time, help everyone as well. Shout out to
doctor Rono and the staff. And uh my lockedo of
the week is R. J. Harvey. There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Yeah, and then I gotta say thank you. I can't
after you said that. I'm just gonna end the freaking
thing now because now it's an hard hole, hard luck.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Awesome dude.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Thank you for coming on, bring.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Pain to welcome. Thank you for having me Hi, everybody,
bring the page, just.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Break the pace. Thank you for stopping by the office.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Get your fantasy prescription by subscribing to the channel and
checking out diner Roto dot com

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
And tell the next visit to be well and take care.

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