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2-19-25 Conservative Commandos: AN INSIDERS LOOK INTO THE MINNESOTA PROTESTS!

Dan "Ox" Ochsner, is a 26 year conservative political talk show host. Dan's show Hot Talk with The Ox  airs M-F 8a-11a Central on AM 1450  and FM 99.3 KNSI in Minnesota. Dan is a Member of the Minnesota Capitol Press Corps. Twice embedded in Iraq as a broadcast journalist. "Hot Talk with The Ox" regularly features live broadcasts from Washington DC as well as the Republican and Democrat National Conventions.   Also, "The Ox" has shared donuts with, and welcomed Kamala Harris's VP pic Tim Walz in studio many times.

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome everybody, and welcome fellow patriots, Welcome, fellow plorables, Welcome
all of you. Drinks of society, rock Dweller's sick, offense, stink, Omega, Nazis, zemaphode,
sex sexist. You know you've heard it before, but and
I hope you've heard us by now. We think of
you as friends, alice and patriots, and regardless of who

(00:29):
you are, you're always welcome here. And this is the
Conservative Commandos radio show. And I'm Rick Trader coming to
you from the My Pillow studios, the My Store studios
of the AUN TV network and joining me today as
my co host, and she does a couple of times
a week, my very good friend, Sharon Anglin. Sharon, welcome back,

(00:51):
Welcome back to Conservative Commandos.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Thanks Rick, it's great to be here with you once again.
We have a good guest coming up today. And I'm
also kind of eager because you said you want to
show me a couple of video clips.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yes I do. Yes, he's a video clips, Yes I do. Well.
Over the weekend in Munich, it is the Munich Security Conference.
And this was kind of like a showcase in a way,
a showcase of potential of world leaders and potential world leaders.
And there were two people there from the United States

(01:30):
who I think really made impressions on the audience. What
is Secretary of State Mark Rubio? You know, Marc Rubio,
our secretary of State, a member of the Trump cabinet,
obviously talked about along with JD. Vance's possible presidential and

(01:51):
vice presidential candidates, goes there and has a has a
real impact, a real impact on the audience or game
of grade speech. And we're going to play that great
speech in a minute. But also who was there, our
dear friend aoc and to show how prepared she is

(02:17):
to be president, to show how she prepared she is
as a member of Congress, someone who's been spoken of
as being the Democrat nominee, right up there with the
Gavin Newsom, right up there with Gavin Newsom, while she

(02:37):
was asked a very strategic security question about how with
the United States or how should the United States act
to protect Taiwan. Now, Sharon, this is a very serious question,
So Sharon, I want to start out first with Marco Rubio.

(03:00):
I mean, Sharon, the more I hear this guy, the
more I see this guy in action, the more I
am liking this guy. You know, when he ran for
president in twenty sixteen, I really didn't like the guy.
He was. Out of the seventeen people that running, he
was way at the end. I'll be way at the
end of the list of people I wanted a series president.

(03:24):
But either I've changed my opinion on him or he
has grown leaps and bounds. And Sharon, please play those
two videos back to back and then let's come back
on and discuss it would and should the US actually
commit US troops to defend Taiwan if China were to move.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
You know, I think that this is such a you know,
I think that.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
This is a.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
This is of course, a very long standing policy of
the United States, and I think what we are hoping
for is that we want to make sure that we
never get to that point, and we want to make
sure that we are moving in all of our economic
research and our global positions to avoid any such confrontation

(04:25):
and for that question to even arise.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
For US Americans, our home may be in the Western Hemisphere,
but we will always be a child of Europe.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Rubio offering europe warm words for the past, but a
warning for the future.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
We want allies who can defend themselves so that no
adversary will ever be tempted to test our collective strength.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Sharon, there it is just Mark Rubio and AOC, two
potential candidates for president of the United States. You know,
Mark Rubio's right there with j eight events. A lot
of they press ask President Trump. After Mark Rubia made
his speech in Munich at the Munich Security Conference. At

(05:21):
the end of it, these world leaders stood up and applaued,
gave him a standing standing ovation. I mean, it's ree.
And then President Trump got the question who are you
going to support? Who you going to endorse? And Donald Trump?
And Donald Trump says, I don't even have to think

(05:41):
about it right now. I have three more years to serve.
Things will work themselves out. It's pretty much what Donald
Trump said. And then you had AOC. Sharon. Now here
is a person who is a member of Congress, a
member of Congress, one of the people leading this country,

(06:07):
a person who's being talked about as the possible Democrat
nominee for president for president, ask the question, should the
United States be protecting Taiwan? Should the United States protect Taiwan?

(06:28):
I don't know what she said. She had no idea
what to say. And here is a woman being talked
about as a presidential nominee who does not know the
issues on one of the most important topics as far
as world security, and she and that's the best that

(06:52):
she can do. And then, you know, a little later on,
she gave another little speech where she talked about cowboys.
You know that Marca Rubia's set mentioned something about cowboys
coming from Spain, all right, and she goes, well, you

(07:12):
should ask the Mexicans and American Indians about that. Well,
guess what, Sharon, ursus were introduced into the Western hemisphere
from where Spain. And then she talks about Venzazuela being
south of the equator. Well, now we know she doesn't

(07:35):
know geography either, because Venzouela is in the Northern hemisphere,
north of the equator. I mean, this woman is just
such a disaster. But it really shows the difference between
the leadership of the Republican Party Donald Trump, Marca Rubio

(07:58):
against somebody's talked about as a possible presidential or vice
presidential candidate and AOC who's in the polls right up
there with Kevin Gruesome.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Thank you paint out some really basic basic differences. First
of all, President Trump, that question was like asking a
parent to choose between his children. Come on, Yes, he's
got so many good guys serving him in his cabinet.
They're all they're all just head and shoulders about anything

(08:35):
that the Democrats have to offer. Also, they're free thinkers.
They all have their own way of expressing themselves. They
have their own thoughts. They've been involved with all of
these issues on a personal level, and by then I
mean independent from anybody else's opinions.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
They've had to.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Answer for themselves on all of these issues many times.
So they are going to be in their answers even
more polished because they've been dealing with it. So you
have statesmen. Rubio is a statesman. He was acting as
a statesman.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
You know.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
They there's a difference between a politician and a statesman.
The statesman is interested in the next generation. Politicians only
interested in the next election. So that brings me to
the point we have the statesman versus the valley girl.
Come on, she says, she says, well, you know, you know,

(09:39):
it's it's like this, and you know, well that's a
very important question, and you know that and you could
just see her. There's no there's no nothing going on.
She hasn't had the briefing. Nobody has told her AOC

(10:00):
when this question comes up, here's the party line, when
this question comes up, here's the party line. She forgot
the party line on Taiwan. That's what happened there. And
she didn't know what to say to that reporter because
she just hadn't been briefed on that by whoever in
the distraction of the Democrat party, not just she know.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
The party line. I don't think she ever heard the
word Taiwan in her life. The way she responded to
it is like asking Rick Trader to explain quantum physics.
Quantum physics, I would have no idea where to begin.
I would sell like her. I would sell like her
if you ask me about quantum physics. All right, she

(10:44):
had no idea. She probably had no idea what the questioner,
why the questioner was asking that question.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
And the issue here is that Democrats don't need to know.
They're not independent thinkers. They didn't think about this at
all before. They just get their talking points and then
they spew those talking points. That's why every one of
them sounds the same that's why the media all sounds

(11:14):
the same. Somebody puts out the directive, the talking point
comes across, and they all begin to speak the party line.
And when you ask them to do some independent thinking
for themselves, to talk to you about issues, and you're
asking a question that well, honestly, anybody in the United States,

(11:37):
it's just been tuned in, would be able to answer
those questions. But she's not tuned in. She doesn't have
to be. That's the point. She's not an independent thinker.
They're not over on that side encourage encouraging that kind
of critical thinking or independent thinking. They're not even really

(11:57):
encouraging education. The more ignorant you are, the more malleable
you are, the better they like you. And that's why
we're seeing some really interesting people on the Democrat side
getting elected because they come from nowhere. They don't have
anything to recommend them. Look at Mandamy in New York City,

(12:22):
where did he come from? Except the Democrat internal working said, Aha,
this guy, Zoran. He looks like a guy that could
take the party line and run with it, and he
certainly did for his whole election cycle. While he was
a candidate, he was speaking socialism and now he's trying

(12:44):
to implement socialism and look how that's going for him.
So it's just on that side we have politicians who
speak the party line, who do not think for themselves,
and on the Republican side we have critical thinking statesmen.
It's a huge gap, huge difference.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Huge gap, huge difference. The problem is sharing. This country
is controlled by corrupt the media. Yes, do you think
you're ever going to see either one of those videos
on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN. Do you think they're ever

(13:28):
gonna see posts on Yahoo or MSN or or juno
or any of these other liberal social media sites. No,
you're not going to see them. Yeah, maybe you'll see
them on Facebook. Conservatives that post these videos up on Facebook,

(13:51):
you might see them there. Maybe you'll see him on
ex or Twitter or whatever you want to call that,
But you're not gonna see them in the in the
corrupt media, Sharon, that's the problem. That's the problem. And
I think anybody that sees AOC at the Munich Security Conference,

(14:13):
anybody who sees her response has got to have the reaction.
No way, no way.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
It's quite frightening. It's quite frightening to anyone who is
leading a country at this point looking at what might
happen in the elections of twenty twenty eight. When they
see Marco Rubio, they can understand what he just said
to them. He didn't make any equivocation on that. He didn't.

(14:46):
He just spoke straightforwardly told them how it was.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
We love you.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
But this is how it's going to be. They know
where they stand with him, and they also know that
he will probably carry out, if he's elected president, the
same type of presidency that Donald Trump has started, and
so they can count on him. It's going to be

(15:15):
something consistent, militarily, consistency, economically, consistentcy trade wise. He's they're
going to be able to count on that. And consistency
actually makes the world grow round everybody, everybody who welcomes

(15:36):
that consistency because when it's consistent, everything's good. Aocs all
over the place. In fact, she isn't in a place,
as you pointed out, she has no place. She doesn't
know where she's at, and that's frightening to the free
world because that's a weak presidency that makes everything up

(16:00):
for grabs. Again. Now we can't we don't know who
we can count on. The last person who talks to
AOC as president is probably gonna get the nod. And
you know who knows how she's going to govern. It
smacks of Biden. They suffered through Biden and they'll suffer

(16:23):
through this woman as well if she's elected. And that's
what they're looking at is I don't think we can
work with her. That's I think their thought process is,
we're going to have real trouble working with this woman.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Well, Sharon, I'm looking at the latest polls. Now, this
is the early choices for the Democrat presidential nominee. She
is tied with Gavin Newssom. They both are pulling in
about twelve percent. They are the top two. Now, we
all know about Gavin Neussom. We all know what a crooked,

(17:02):
sneak liar that man is, how he's destroyed the economy
or is helping to destroy the economy of California, how
he's spending untold amounts of money on this train to
nowhere's no response, no response to the California fires that

(17:23):
destroyed all those homes in the Pacific Polises a year
and a half. And by the way, in the last
year and a half, Sharon, you know how many houses
have been rebuilt or started. Six six. I said zero
six have been started, Okay, after a year and a

(17:44):
half of all those homes that were destroyed. Six six.
And she and these two idiots are leading the Republican
I'm sorry, the Democrat Party and also scary. I was
looking at a poll I believe it was from December,

(18:08):
from December, and when you pull AOC up against JD. Vance,
she's leading. She's leading against JD. Vans. I mean, I
am so glad for this video because I really really
want and this is why it was so important for

(18:32):
me to show these two videos on the Conservative Commandos.
Here it is. This was on the Hill. AOC highlights
polls showing her beating Vance. This was back in December.
It wasn't a poll from two years last December. This

(18:52):
past December, two months ago poll showing her beating JD. Vance.
And I'm so impressed with JD. I don't think President
Trump could have made a better choice as a vice
presidential running mate. But people wake up, people wake up

(19:17):
to what is going on in this country, and wake
up to the potential leaders of this country. With that, Sharon,
guess what great time and you are listening to and
watching The Conservative Commanders with Sharon Angel. I'm Rick Trader.
We've got a great guess that will be joining this

(19:37):
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host Hot Talk with the Ox who broadcasts in Minnesota.
We're going to bring him on to talk about oh
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Speaker 1 (21:37):
And Welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos, Sharon Angel.
I'm Rick Drader, coming to you from the My Pillar
studios and My Store studios of our very own au
n TV network. You know, Sharon, we're getting back to
base where the Conservative Commanders used to be bringing on
live guests and megether great guest today, you're in the

(21:59):
Conservative command we do.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
We've invited Dan Oxner, who is a twenty six year
conservative political talk show host. Dance show Hot Talk with
the ox airs Monday through Friday, eight to eleventh Central
Time on AM fourteen fifty and FM ninety nine point
three k n SI in Minnesota. Dan is a member

(22:22):
of the Minnesota Captain Press Corps and he was twice
embedded in Iraq as a broadcast journalist. We've asked Dan
to come on and talk about Minnesota and the scandals
ice those things.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
All right, great guests coming up here on Conservative Commanders.
You know, sheard, I know your hot hot topics that
you'd like to talk about. One is photo fraud. The
other's education. Yes, you being a former tea shirt. Yes,
you've been a former member of the school board. I
know education is very new and dear to you. I

(23:01):
know you even started a non governmental school. And you know, Sharon,
you've heard me say this before. If you truly love
your kids, get them out of government schools, get them
out of government schools. You know, for one thing we saw,
we're seeing across the country, schools that are letting their

(23:26):
kids into the streets to protest ice. Not just in Minnesota,
it's happening in New Jersey. It's happening everywhere across the country.
Just the other day, something really tragic happened. A little
child was run over, run over when they went out
to protest. I mean, this is really sick. I mean

(23:50):
it's even getting down to the middle schools that teachers
are telling their kids, you got to get active, you
gotta go out, you got to protest again, YadA, YadA, YadA.
And these are schools where the test scores are failing.
These kids aren't even reading and writing. Eighty percent of

(24:10):
the kids cannot read or write on a grade level.
All right, but it gets worse. But it gets worse.
I have as some examples of why I say, if
you truly love your kids, get them out of government schools.
And these are the headlines. New Jersey teacher whose step

(24:33):
who slept with students at the family bagel shop learns
prison sentence number two. If you truly love your kids,
get them out of government schools. Here's another example, former
teacher wall Township, this is in New Jersey, who was

(24:55):
just sentenced after she was convicted of raping to students,
if you really love your kids, get them out of
government schools. Teacher of the Year finalists allegedly offer cash
for sex acts to police, pretending to be a thirteen

(25:17):
year old boy. This is what we're seeing in education, Sharon.
I'm so angry. I am so angry when people I know,
people I really like Sharon have their kids in government
schools today. I mean, there's got to be an out

(25:39):
to it. There's got to be an end to it.
And you know what they always say is, well, I
can't afford the tuition, Well, damn it. You can afford
to go on vacation, can't ye, Or damn it. You
can afford to smoke, can't ya? Or damn it? You
can afford a new vehicle every three years, can't you?
But if why, why don't you do whatever it takes

(26:03):
to send your kids to a private school, even if
you have to go out and get a job. Do it.
What's happening in education?

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, generally speaking, you do have to give up quite
a bit in your lifestyle in order to homeschool or
to put your children in private school. I've done both
with my kids, and I did it for reasons just
like people have today. There's all kinds of reasons, but

(26:40):
the academic reasons are the main reasons. I think that
we should be thinking about a different place for kids.
But then, as you point out today, safety is another reason.
I don't think we ever thought when we send our
kids to public school that their lives would be endangered,
that you wouldn't be able to see them come home

(27:05):
that same day. And you know that is just escalated.
We didn't used to have school shootings, that's a new
phenomena within the last twenty five years. We didn't have
them being encouraged to go to protests where their lives
would be in danger. So you know, their safety now

(27:29):
becomes a true issue of where are your children going
to be going to be safe. I know so many
parents are choosing to homeschool now because they know where
their children are, They know their children are going to
be safe at home, and so they are choosing to

(27:50):
keep their children home for academic reasons, but also for
the safety issue. And that's why when I was in
the legislature here in Nevada, I got a homeschooling law
that allowed parents without regulation. Really, it's a an open
ended freedom bill that we passed that just says, you

(28:14):
can homeschool your children in Nevada. You have to present
a letter of intent to your local school board thing,
I'm homeschooling my child, and that's it.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Well, in New Jersey, what you're trying to do is
trying to pass laws demanding that if you're homeschooling your student,
you've got to show up like twice a year and
discuss what you're teaching these kids.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
And that doesn't happen in Nevada because of my New Jersey.
It happens all over the United States because they didn't
have someone to stand up and say, no, these are
my children. I determine where they are best educated and
cared for and where they're the safe. I'm the one

(29:02):
that's in charge of that as their parent. And so
that's why this law just says, tell them you're going
to do it, and if you change your mind, you'll
let them know. That's what our law says. And that's
why I said it's the most freeing homeschool of law
that I know of in the United States because other
states are trying to regulate and it has to do

(29:24):
with the teachers Union. Many homeschooling children, and here's the
bottom line. Homeschooling children, anybody who's taken out of the
public system, they don't get that public money for that child.
If they're not there on county, they don't get the money.
And so it always comes down to money within the

(29:45):
school district and secondarily jobs for teachers. And as you said,
I'm a teacher, so I'm pro teacher. But but it
was never about the money. And I know Mary was
the teacher, and I don't think it was ever about
the money for her either. My son is a teacher.
It's not about the money. It's a calling people who

(30:06):
go into teaching as a profession, who want to educate children,
who love children, who see that the reason for investing
in the next generation. Those should be the people in
our classrooms. And sadly that's not always the people that
we're attracting.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
So, Sharon, I mentioned one woman who is having sex
with students at the family Bager shop way I don't
want to eat there. And then another teacher from New
Jersey who was convicted of raping two students. But I
wanted to tell you about this third stupid a third
teacher California teacher who is named Teacher of the Year

(30:51):
finalist In twenty twenty four, Ruben Gusman, thirty one, a
thirty one year old math teacher and assistant principle, communicated
with someone he thought was a thirteen year old boy
and asked for sex acts in exchange for money. Gusman

(31:12):
then allegedly arranged to meet the child in San Jose, California.
San Jose, California right here will be broadcast Conservative Commander's
aau Win network, but was met by police officers. Okay,
the California teacher, who was a Teacher of the Year finalist,

(31:34):
was arrested in a sting operation during which he'd allegedly
offered money and according to this San Jose Police Department, Gusman,
a math teacher assistant principal at the city's Sunrise Middle School,
began communicating with someone he believed was a thirteen year

(31:57):
old boy just one February the third I mean, so, okay,
happens coast to coast, from New Jersey to California and
everywhere in between. That you've got these perverts, these perverted teachers.
Now I wanted to read you this because not only

(32:19):
was this guy a teacher, he was an assistant principal,
he was a vice principal. So it's at all levels
of administration. And I'll end this with this one more time.
You parents out there, if you truly love your kids

(32:44):
the way you say you do, when you say I
will do anything anything for my kids, well damn it
if you mean it, get them out of government schools now,
no matter what it takes. Give up something, get a job,
give it a part time job. If you really love

(33:06):
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Speaker 1 (35:02):
Hey, welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos. We
Sharon Angle and yours truly, Rick Trainer, coming to you
from the my Pillar studios and my Store studios of
the a u N TV network. And hey, Sharon, it's
great to get our old friends back on the Conservative Commandos.
And we have another one with this today, and please
make that introduction.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Well, it's always my honor and pleasure to introduce Dan
Ox Oxner, who is a twenty five year considered conservative
political talk show host. Dan's show Not Talk with the
Ox airs Monday through Friday, eight am to eleven am
Central on AM fourteen fifty and FM ninety nine point

(35:45):
three k n SI in Minnesota. Dan is a member
of the Minnesota Capitol Press Corps. He's twice embedded in
Iraq as a broadcast journalist. I Talk with the Ox
regularly features broadcasts from Washington, d C, as well as
the Republican and Democrat national conventions. Also, The Ox has

(36:08):
shared donuts with and welcomed Kamala Harris's VP and Tim
Waltz in the studio many times. So welcome back to
the Conservative Commandos radio show. Dan the Ox Oxener.

Speaker 9 (36:25):
Shared's good to be on. We got to work on
that intro, I tell you, Yi. So it always freaks
me out when you go through that litany of things,
not the least of which right the old days of
when we used to get to talk to Governor Tim
Wallas have had a studio.

Speaker 10 (36:38):
In a while.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Well, Doug, I thought that would spur us on right
into what's the latest from Tim Waltz in Minnesota. I mean,
this is the scandal of the century, I think, because
it's just the tip of the iceberg. As we're finding out,
it's spread. It's not just Minnesota.

Speaker 10 (36:57):
You bet wait till the whole nation catches onto this thing.

Speaker 9 (37:00):
Our legislative session began at noon today, so this is
the first time really since a lot of this stuff
has broken because I think we it's like May whatever
it is, the almost the end of May, since the
legislature has been together. So this is the first time
anybody's been able to get together and start working on
you know, a fraud auditor.

Speaker 10 (37:19):
Will it be bipartisan? Will the Democrats join in? Everyone
is up.

Speaker 9 (37:23):
For reelection this year, all two hundred and one senators
and representatives. Of course, our Congress people. We have Senate
elections as well as gubernatorial elections and all that, so
it'd be interesting to see how.

Speaker 10 (37:33):
This plays out.

Speaker 9 (37:34):
So it's a kind of a big day in Minnesota
right now because of just what you're talking about. This
fraud is over the top, out of control, and we
all know that Keith Ellison and Tim Walls, most of
us know they've been complicit in this.

Speaker 10 (37:49):
For sure, they've been either looking the.

Speaker 9 (37:51):
Other if you want to give them the benefit of
the doubt, they've been looking the other way. But there's
pretty much inescapable to not think that these were either
in on it or totally complicit with it, knowing that
it was happening, hoping that we wouldn't find out, I
don't know, thinking that he would just skate to a
third term.

Speaker 10 (38:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (38:09):
But since then, of course, announcing that he's not running
for reelection, but sharing the biggest thing, and not to
jump ahead too much on this, but one of the
biggest things that I see with the Democrats in Minnesota,
especially Governor Wallas and Keith Ellison or Attorney General, et cetera,
when they talk to the media, when they talk to us,
we the people they're talking with this assumption that all

(38:33):
of us are on board with them when they're denying it.
If they're talking about the ice raids. Again, not to
get ahead of us, but if they're whatever they're talking about,
they're they're talking to us like of course everybody agrees,
and it's like, man, you're not. They're not even trying
to sell it to the non believers, if you will.
That's what's got me kind of miffed, like, wait a
minute here, they're lumping all of us into the same thing,

(38:54):
like of course you agree with us, when half of
us don't. I mean we are a split state, right,
we have the outstate like so many states do, and
then the two counties in the metro area. That screw
it all up for everybody. But now he's not speaking
to all of us like we agree with him, or
for all of us, like we're all in support of
what he's doing and what they're doing as Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Sharon Well, and I would imagine if the legislature there's
going to be a lot of this finger pointing, not me,
but everybody else it's their fault. I don't know how
you get through a session when there's going to be
so many people tru dem in denial. I guess, like
you said, the governor's kind of in denial if he's

(39:35):
thinking that everybody's on board.

Speaker 9 (39:37):
They think they have a mandate, right, they think they
have this mandate. Now, you know, we say that because
on a state wide level they can get away with this.
But with two hundred and one legislators, so we have
two House members for every senator, so all of all
of them are up for reelection this year, which means,
you know, politics are local. So these guys, they're not
speaking to the state to get reelected. They're speaking to

(39:59):
the neighborhood. They're speaking to their towns, they're speaking to
their districts. It's a different message when that happens. So collectively, now,
when they all get together, it'll be interesting to see
what kind of a song and dance they do. Because
everyone says they want fraud exposure, supervision prevention, right, like,
let's at least stop the fraud. Yet the governor continues
to propose programs that are rife with opportunity for fraud,

(40:23):
like not just not getting it. So we have a
right now we have a tie in the House, the
Republicans and the Democrats tie, which is weird. So there
is a Republican speaker. Her name is Lisa Damuth. She's
running for governor, but they they're tied.

Speaker 10 (40:38):
They have exactly the same number of Republicans and Democrats
in the House. It was like two more Democrats I
think in the Senate than Republicans.

Speaker 9 (40:45):
So they really can't get anything passed without bipartisan support
on either side.

Speaker 10 (40:51):
So thank god for that. But you know, if they take.

Speaker 9 (40:54):
One seat, for instance, and win the governor's race, it's
another trifecta and you'll never You'll never see anything about
fraud again.

Speaker 10 (41:05):
It will never come out.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Well, it's interesting that the one who exposed the fraud,
it's just a regular guy with an iPhone? Is that
how it went down? Talk to us a little bit
about how this got exposed in the first place, because
it wasn't the corrupt media. They didn't go after it.
It wasn't a politician that went after it. Who is
it that got this and how did we get it?

Speaker 6 (41:28):
Right?

Speaker 9 (41:28):
Well, we've been hearing about this, this young kid. What
this did was propel it to the national level and
shared we've seen a real anomaly and maybe it's always
been this way. But we've never had anybody.

Speaker 10 (41:39):
Like Donald Trump as president.

Speaker 9 (41:41):
So when Donald Trump gets wind of something, all of
a sudden, it becomes national and international. Right, he has
no filter. So that's really what happened here. We've known
about it in Minnesota for a long time. Our US
attorney who now resigned, but one of our US attorneys
exposed the fraud. He's the one that said, no, it's
not you know, it's it's more than six hundred million dollars.

(42:03):
It's more like nine billion.

Speaker 10 (42:04):
Dollars, right or more.

Speaker 9 (42:06):
So we we kind of knew about that that was publicized.
We we're familiar with that in Minnesota. But it's something
about the oval, right and Donald Trump. When Donald Trump
catches one to.

Speaker 10 (42:17):
It, donald Trump says it, all of a sudden, Everybody's
hearing it.

Speaker 9 (42:20):
So many people think they hear it for the first time.
So it really took this kid, you know, to get
noticed nationally. But a last we've we've been paying attention
to this for years and quite frankly, Sharon, we the
people we see it on the streets, we don't we
can't quantify it for sure that it's happening because we're
not investigating it, but we're looking at what's going on

(42:40):
here and it's just not right, like wait a minute,
or what are what are these people doing? There's no way,
there's no way that this is legitimate, right, but we
can't say anything because you're racist. And as Minnesotan's I
will tell you socially, I'm not speaking for everyone, but
I'm pretty much speaking for the bulk.

Speaker 10 (42:57):
Even in Greater Minnesota, even in other places.

Speaker 9 (43:01):
You're just not allowed to have those conversations, even at
cocktail parties. It's the giant issue that nobody even allows themselves.

Speaker 10 (43:09):
To talk about.

Speaker 9 (43:10):
So with Donald Trump finding out about this, it's really
allowed us to start having the open conversation. And I
mean it's making a lot of us real nervous as Minesultans,
because now all of a sudden we're talking about stuff
kind of like uh oh. So we all know that
we all feel this way and that we're seeing it,
but we've never been allowed allowing ourselves to talk about it.
And that's quite frankly, that's got us. That's got us

(43:30):
topsy turvy right now in the state.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Well, what you're describing is really a cancel culture in
in uh in your whole state. Everybody's kind of self
censoring in a way because they don't want to get
canceled in in the public. Guy, Uh, talk to us
now about ice.

Speaker 11 (43:53):
They came in.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
How did they get caught up in this whole mess?
It was, you know, I mean, we've had I stations
here in Nevada. Everybody's got a few. They're coming in.
When the President said we're going to capture the criminals
and we're going to deport them, we all expected it.
But somehow this got way out of control and we're

(44:17):
not sure exactly what happened there.

Speaker 9 (44:19):
In Minnesota, Well, you can credit Tim Walls and especially
Minneapolis Mayor Fry and Saint Paul Mayor Carter now her
a new mayor, for not allowing.

Speaker 10 (44:30):
Local law enforcement to be involved.

Speaker 9 (44:33):
If local law enforcement would have been allowed to secure
the perimeter to work with ICE, none of this stuff
would have happened. The fact that they didn't allow law
enforcement to do it meant that literally armies of ICE
officers had to go into neighborhoods of which they were
unfamiliar because they're largely from out of town. So you
have armies of ice and you've got the what thousand

(44:56):
CBP officers protecting ice.

Speaker 10 (45:00):
You could have done this with a tenth of the team.
It would have been far less intrusive. But since we
didn't have local authority or local law enforcement helping, and
all of a sudden, these protesters get in these packets.
Oh I shouldn't here.

Speaker 9 (45:12):
I've got to peg you out to see a packet.
Look at this, So this is true. This is This
is gonna sound weird, so don't be alarmed. These are
the whistles. These are the kits that they're handing out.

Speaker 10 (45:25):
Can you see it.

Speaker 9 (45:25):
They're handing these up at our lives, They're handing it
out in our library. They wear the whistle around your neck.
This is the little whistle. And these are written in
every language. It explains how to blow the whistle, Why
you blow the whistle?

Speaker 10 (45:40):
Code two.

Speaker 9 (45:40):
If you blow in a continuous, steady rhythm, that means
ice is detaining somebody. But if you if you blow
it in a broken rhythm, it just means that ice
is in the area. So it's a pamphlet to instruct
you how to use this whistle, how to disrupt, how
to scare the crap out of everybody, How to inconvenience
and freak out law enforcement in the area.

Speaker 10 (45:59):
That leads to terrible problems.

Speaker 9 (46:00):
Then there's a script in the thing that tells if
somebody comes to your door, it's a script that you
can read, denying them entry.

Speaker 10 (46:07):
These are packets that are handed out at.

Speaker 9 (46:09):
The library and they're in all different languages, unbelievable, all
in ziploc packs, hundreds thousands of them. This is what
these guys are using. So this is a unified effort.
Make no mistake about it. These people have a coordinated effort.
You can't tell me that there's not funding involved in this.

Speaker 10 (46:24):
This is a coordinated effort. They're seizing on Minnesota, this opportunity.

Speaker 9 (46:28):
They're the ones that created all this, these crazed protesters,
probably on a payroll somewhere, designed to disrupt.

Speaker 10 (46:34):
Our whole society. It's working. And dare I say Donald
Trump misjudged, misinterpreted what would happen in Minnesota because I
was predicting this for a decade prior when it was
first talked about that this is what they wanted to
do to get rid of the illegals. I said, no way,
it's not going to work here.

Speaker 9 (46:53):
And unfortunately I think what's happened, and don't hate me
for this, but a conclusion that I've drawn over the
past week talking to a lot of people. These ice
raids and the subsequent protests have made independence in Minnesota
anti Republican, and that's not going to bode well for

(47:14):
the midterms. This is going to be a tough one
to recover from. But if you look at the calendar,
there's a long way between now and November. And we
didn't know anything about this stuff two months ago. We
didn't know anything about the fraud six months ago, right.

Speaker 10 (47:27):
That kind of thing. So lots can happen between now
and then, but this is a real setback for Minnesota
right now.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Oh, I have a million questions about funding in and
how this ties into the fraud, but I'm going to
leave that for Rick. On the other side of this break,
I'm sharing Angel here with Rick Trader, my co host.
We've been talking with our special guest, Dan Oxner, who's
a conservative political talk show post and he's there in

(47:57):
Minnesota with Hot Talk and the Ox and he's been
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Speaker 1 (49:43):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos with
Sharon Angle. I'm Rick Trader, coming to you front Pete.
My Pillow Studio is my store Studios of the au
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in this segment. He's the host of Hot Talk with
the Ox that airs on K and I S in Minnesota.

(50:04):
And Dan, thank you for holding through that break. It's
great to see again, my friend. And while I'm like
with Sharon, I've got so many questions here that I've
been writing down. Well, you and Sharon, we're talking first Ox,
if you can tell us about if you can or
if you will a little bit about the Somali community.

(50:25):
How big of a community is it in Minneapolis St. Paul,
give us percentages, give us numbers, and also has this
community ever made an attempt to assimilate into the American lifestyle.

Speaker 9 (50:41):
I can't give you exact numbers because I don't believe them.
Whatever you see publicized have got to be low because.

Speaker 10 (50:48):
It's it's it's it's everywhere.

Speaker 9 (50:52):
I mean, the Somali folks are everywhere, And in Saint Cloud, Minnesota,
where I broadcast from and where I live, we've been
and just I mean, it's it's been twenty years of
massive influx.

Speaker 10 (51:04):
Really an interesting dynamic because.

Speaker 9 (51:07):
When I'm sitting at a street light, for instance, Rick,
Let's say there are ten cars going by or part
with me, seven or eight of them will be Somali
sitting there.

Speaker 10 (51:17):
So I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 9 (51:19):
I don't know how they're talking about, you know, numbers
like ten, twenty thousand, eighty thousand. It's got to be
way higher than that. And I think the biggest problem
is their culture does not does not jibe with our culture.
Nobody has ever told them that they that they should assimilate.
Nobody's ever told them anything other than come here, and
we've got these great programs for you.

Speaker 10 (51:39):
Why do you think they're in Minnesota?

Speaker 9 (51:41):
And so what you're looking at, what ninety percent are
on welfare and almost ninety percent in the eighty percent
tile after ten years are still on all these social programs.
They're driving nicer cars than I'm driving. They're constantly on
the move for some odd reason. But one thing you
don't ever ever see and in my town there are
tons of pickup trucks. The working man is driving around.

Speaker 10 (52:05):
You see when you see the the.

Speaker 9 (52:07):
The average car going by as a pickup probably with
ladders on the back or equipment in the back or whatever.
You will never see a Somali male driving a pickup truck.
It's just whatever they're doing. They're not like working in
the sense like like other people are working.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
Now.

Speaker 10 (52:22):
I know there aren't their.

Speaker 9 (52:23):
Trucking right, They're they're doing things that They're operating a
lot of businesses, and many of them probably are legitimate.

Speaker 10 (52:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (52:30):
I do have a couple of Somali friends who I
assume are operating legitimately. You know, by and large, they
should quite frankly assimilate and become Republicans. With a few
little tweaks, they could really succeed in America without being criminals. Uh.

Speaker 10 (52:45):
And it's been hard for the Republicans to reach out
because the.

Speaker 9 (52:48):
Democrats have been so quick to allow them to come
in and give them everything they want just for their votes.
So it's really frustrating when it comes to that, because
I think there's a real opportunity here.

Speaker 10 (52:57):
I'm optimistic. I've been optimistic about it. But not until
we really open up to that population and teach them
how they can really thrive and contribute to this country
is it going to happen.

Speaker 9 (53:09):
But that being said, you do not see them if
you will, minus one or two in Kowanas in Rotary
at the Chamber of Commerce, at our parades.

Speaker 10 (53:23):
You know, you know they're they're not doing the things
that we do in our culture.

Speaker 9 (53:28):
I don't know where they go or where they are exactly,
but they tend to kind of just hole up in
their own areas and their own stores and their own restaurants.
So that's kind of troubling too, because you know, it'd
be different if if they're, you.

Speaker 10 (53:41):
Know, learning to be Americans.

Speaker 9 (53:43):
But they're not, and maybe they want to, I don't
even know, but nobody's ever really demanded it of them,
especially those who brought them here and for some odd
reason just want them to be on the government dole forever.

Speaker 10 (53:55):
It's not fearing though, you know.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
What she said that beyond the government doll for ether.
I've seen congressional hearings and I'm sure you're aware of
this where they talk about the number of Somalis that
are on welfare, food stamps, public housing. Even after ten years,
there's still there's still on the public dole. And I
wanted to ask you, what are your listeners in collars

(54:21):
saying to you? Are they frustrated by this? Are they
angry about this that they've been supporting these people brought here,
I believe by Bill Clinton. You know, after the disaster
in Somalia, there's still there's still on the government's teeth.

Speaker 9 (54:41):
It's yeah, it's tough. It's really it's not fair to
the po to that population. Quite frankly, it's not fair
to us, the taxpayers, and it's also not fair to them.
As you know, oppression is never is never fair. But
I guess I would say that one of the one
of the big issues is like you have to be

(55:03):
totally destitute right to get government assistants, and then you
get a ton of government assistants. Then as you dig
yourself out, you get less assistant. So you're working twice
as hard when you're used to not working, and you
don't have twice the stuff, right. So, I mean that's
been the whole the problem with our welfare system all along.

(55:24):
So you could say maybe it's the Somali population, but
also it's just our laws and our rules and the
way we operate our welfare system. And in Minnesota, I mean,
we're the most generous state and we're getting ripped off
as taxpayers.

Speaker 10 (55:34):
It's not right. This is not sustainable, Rick, so'm moving forward.

Speaker 5 (55:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (55:38):
I don't know how we're going to fix this, but
you know.

Speaker 9 (55:41):
For the legitimate business operators, I feel for them because
they're probably being judged negatively right now. But I will say,
in answer to your question about my listeners, I did
get a few frustration hate calls when this all went down,
with Donald Trump taking a very hard our anti Somali stance,

(56:01):
very publicly saying, Ox, you know, we've been telling you
this for years. We've been we've been calling in you
never you know, you don't talk about it enough on
your show. Now Donald Trump's talking about it. You know,
how come you weren't talking about it the whole time?
Like well, okay, but when you live in a community
with this kind of a population, we all have to
live together. And so what you want me to pick

(56:24):
a fight over openly with my neighbors. I mean it
is largely people that are mad about this are people
that never go out right. They're they're either you know,
shut ins, right or you know, they live through their
computers and they can be real tough. But if you
want to exist in public, guess what cashiers, you know,
service representatives, people you see on the street, your neighbors.

(56:48):
What you going to just pick a fight with all
those people and just be angry about it? So we
do have to coexist.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
And Ox, what you said about the your reaction by
Donald Trump, the reaction by by Ice and by the
Homeland Security is is turning the people in the middle
to be more sympathetic towards the uh uh, towards the protesters.
Not after the guy was shot. I was watching TV

(57:18):
and it seemed like out of nowhere you've had you
had all these protesters in the street. And Ox, I've
been making the argument for some time. Those protesters were
ready to go. They were just looking for this spark,
the trigger to set them off. And at the time
they showed pictures of all these people in the street,

(57:39):
and I saw several hundred. But I don't know. You
know more about Minneapolis Saint Paul than I do. I
what's hit population? About six hundred thousand?

Speaker 10 (57:50):
Oh yeah, But I mean that's the that's the inner city, right.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
What I'm getting at. What I'm getting at is there
might have been I don't know, a thousand people there,
but and I don't know how difficult it is or
reason it is to get a thousand people in the
street when it's nine degrees below zero. But the question
I ask of myself at the time is, Okay, there
may be a thousand people in the street, but that

(58:17):
means there's tens of thousands of people not in the street.
So were these protesters Were they just a small, very loud,
minority group of individuals being paid, be motivated in other
ways to be there, and by and large was the
vast majority of people in Minneapolis, Saint Paul, Saint Cloud.

(58:43):
Were they looking at these people in the saying they
do represent my feelings or do not represent my feelings?

Speaker 9 (58:50):
As far as the protesters go, I think they learned
as they went along let's put it that way.

Speaker 10 (58:55):
I think a lot of us wanted this. I talked
to a lot of people.

Speaker 9 (58:58):
You know, if I saw patrol going down the street,
I'd stop them and buy them a pizza and say thanks. Right,
But then when you find out that they were going
to one of your favorite restaurants and the entire kitchen
staff is now gone and the restaurant's closed, and you're like,
how do I like those people? You know, I knew
those people. I frequented that blaze. Now all of a sudden,
it gets really personal. And that's when it hits home

(59:20):
with a lot of folks. It's sort of like the
dog finally catches the car and now has to figure
out what to do with it.

Speaker 10 (59:25):
I mean, I hate to put it that way, but
that's really what happened.

Speaker 9 (59:28):
It hits home, and hit hit home with me right like,
hey wait a minute here, Oh no, like I was
going to you know, it happened to me just like
I just described it on multiple levels.

Speaker 10 (59:35):
And so that's what we're seeing.

Speaker 9 (59:37):
Now. You have your neighbors, your businesses, the people who
have businesses next to the businesses.

Speaker 10 (59:41):
Who knew these people All of a sudden.

Speaker 9 (59:43):
Now we're like, hey, wait a minute here, I thought
I wanted, you know, this policing action, but I'm not
sure about it now.

Speaker 10 (59:51):
And I think people kind of got second thoughts once
you see it in action.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
As what about this news supposed agreement between the governor,
between the mayors and ICE that they're going to pull
out pull out a lot of the ICE agents, but
they were going to be allowed to go into the
to the jails and as people were released who are

(01:00:15):
here illegally, who do have criminal records, to take them
rather than take them off the streets, but take them
out of the jails. Is that working?

Speaker 10 (01:00:24):
I think it will. I mean, I think that's good.

Speaker 9 (01:00:26):
And we learned that most of the jails were cooperating.
It was just some of the Twin Cities area jails
that weren't all along. That's kind of been our policy
all along anyway, sort of, So it hasn't been as
bad as maybe as being reported.

Speaker 10 (01:00:38):
But you know, in some of these big inner city
jails where they just don't allow it, that's where the
big problem has been.

Speaker 9 (01:00:42):
But by and large, you know, these county sheriffs make
no mistake about it. The average county sheriff right is wise.
They know the deal and they're not the ones bucking
this system. You know, this is all just the politically
driven big big cities and big counties that have been
pulling the stunt. I will tell you though, Rick tom
Holman's leadership. I mean, right there, bam tom Holman comes in,

(01:01:05):
He's got the authority from the president, and he solves
this problem. I think this is probably what everybody sort
of wanted anyway. I don't think the general public in
Minnesota would object to ICE being a privy to the
you know, legal status of people in our jails and
making sure that if they are supposed to be deported
once they serve their time, that they in fact are deported.

(01:01:27):
I don't think the average Minnesota would have a problem
with that at all, if they really understood it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Fox, before we let you go. I saw something the
other day. I don't know if my old eyes were
seeing writer or not. It it's a map of Minnesota.
It's one of these maps where the blue areas obviously
we're in blue, the red areas were in red. It
seems like by and large, the state of Minnesota is
a is a red straight a red state. Rather except

(01:01:56):
for a couple of areas Minneapolis, Saint Paul Nervis, was
I looking at that map correctly.

Speaker 10 (01:02:03):
Yeah, that's the way it is.

Speaker 9 (01:02:04):
And I forget what the breakdown is for counties, But
what you see is in the northern part of Minnesota
where there's taconite mining, it's been historically a mining area,
which means unions, which means big labor, which means Democrats.

Speaker 10 (01:02:16):
So that's been traditionally Democrat.

Speaker 9 (01:02:17):
Plus the Port of duluthred and Lake Superior, you know,
again organized labor, very Democrat. And now Rochester, home of
the Mayo Clinic, is becoming a real problem there again
because largely the makeup of the people who work at Mayo.

Speaker 10 (01:02:32):
Mayo controls that town.

Speaker 9 (01:02:34):
And that becomes you know, a bunch of if you
have you know, they do great work, but a lot
a lot of folks that are here from other countries,
a lot of folks who are making so much money
that they don't even know what to do with at all,
and they think that it's fine.

Speaker 10 (01:02:46):
If they're taxed a whole bunch of money. So that's
kind of going that direction.

Speaker 9 (01:02:49):
Plus Rochester has a ton of Somali influx as well,
where the Mayo Clinic is so those are the pockets.
Otherwise it's it's man, It's uh, it's mega man. I
mean it's you know, you're looking at eighty twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
So I wouldn't get I wouldn't get in trouble wearing
this hat and most place as a Minnesota right correct sir,
correct Dan the Ox Oshner. Dan, We want to thank
you so much for joining us. It's been a while
great to have you back again with us. But before
you go, give our people, give our friends out there
the for one one, how they can connect with you,

(01:03:24):
how they can listen to Hot Talk with the Ox,
which I do occasionally even though I'm twenty two thousand
miles away. Tell us about your show.

Speaker 9 (01:03:34):
Well, I appreciate that my producer handles most of that,
but he tells me that we're on every place that
you get your podcasts.

Speaker 10 (01:03:39):
So look for Hot Talk with the Ox, Twitter or
X at Hot Talk with Ox.

Speaker 9 (01:03:45):
It'd be Hot Talk with the Ox with us too
many letters, so it's at Hot Talk with Ox or
if you want to go to my home radio station
that I broadcast out of is KNSI radio dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Thanks Rick, Dan again, thank you so much for joining us,
Take care and God bless I'm bless you. And this
is the Conservative Commandos. We shar an angle, I'm Rick Traider.
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Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commander's Radio
Show at Sharon Angle and your Shirley Rick Trader coming
to you from the My Pillar Studios, the Mesura Studios
of the a u NTV network. Sharon, our first guest
of the day is with this and the honor of
the introductions all yours.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
And it is indeed and honor for me to introduce
Jeremy Portnoy, who is an investigative journalist with openththooks dot com.
His work has also been seen on SB Nation, The
Daily Caller, WND Longview, News Journal, The Political Insider, KNB
and TV, Rapid City South Dakota, The Statesman, Herald, Review Media,

(01:06:30):
and many others. Jeremy, welcome back to the Conservative Commandos
radio show.

Speaker 11 (01:06:37):
Thanks for having me, Sharon. It's great to be back.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
It's always great to have someone from open the books
because you look at the money and the money that's
being spent. We're just days, almost moments away from a
new president, and yet this president is going crazy with
the spending and this is kind of an interesting spend

(01:07:01):
on his part. The Department of Defense. What's going on there, Jeremy.

Speaker 11 (01:07:08):
So we took a look at the DODS September spending
from last year. We finally spent seventy nine billion dollars
on grants and contracts. Now, that was their most expensive
single month since two thousand and eight when Bush was
president and we were at the height of the War
on Terror. But it's not going to war fighting. A
lot of it's going to lobster tail furniture, as I'm

(01:07:28):
sure we're going to discuss.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Well, so there's let's break that down a bit. Then
there's a dollar total that includes thirty three point one
billion that was spent in the last five working days
of September.

Speaker 5 (01:07:46):
What was that about.

Speaker 11 (01:07:48):
So what happens is it's called use it or lose
it funding rules. You've probably heard of that. So at
the end of the fiscal year in September, these federal
agencies are worried that if they don't spend their entire budget,
then Congress will see that and get them less money
the next year. So agencies like the Pentagon, they spend
the money on anything they can find just to get
it at the door. Show Congress that they spend all
the money and make sure they get enough that are

(01:08:11):
enough for as much money as they want the following year.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Okay, but you know you say in your article that
some of these things we should expect seven point nine
billion on aircraft that is defense, right, three billion on
ammunition that's defense. But one hundred and three point seven
million on food. Where's that going.

Speaker 11 (01:08:39):
It's not even just food, that's specifically on meat, fish,
and poultry. They spend that money, so it's money going
to lobstertail, ribbi, steak, salmon. All can those users lose
it rules where they feel like they have to spend
the money on something to get it at the door.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Okay, so's it's not just a one time deal, is it.
I mean this lobster tail thing. How many times?

Speaker 11 (01:09:01):
Yeah, just this September they have placed one hundred and
twenty seven orders of lobster tail. But this is something
we see year over year, no matter who's president, Democrat, Republican,
the same thing happens. At the end of the fiscal year.
They go on these spending s freeze. And I mean,
if you look right, you mentioned already the last five
days of the year, they spend thirty three billion dollars
some of the eleven countries that spend that much on

(01:09:23):
defense in an entire year, and we funneled it out
the door in five days.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Yea, and six point one million on lobster hill. Who
gets to eat that? I mean, if it's going to
the guys on the in the field, you know, maybe
they deserve a lobster tale once in a while, But
who's it going to. Who's eating a lobster tale?

Speaker 11 (01:09:46):
I mean, who knows? They're not very transparent with us, right,
I would hope that some of the people in uniform.
It's just as likely that it's bureaucracts with desk jobs.
But either way, it's not contributing to our national security, right.
I don't think Russia's looking at us and saying, oh,
we were going to attack the United si States, but
you know they order all this lobster tails, so we
better back off. This is not the investments that's going
to protect our national security.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Well, sixteen point six million in ribbi steaks, six point
four million in salmon, and then Alaska and King Crab.
That was just the appetizer. Four hundred and seven hundred,
four hundred and seven thousand, So I guess, uh, it
was a It was a big banquet. Do you think
this is reward your friends time? Is that what this

(01:10:29):
is really all about? Because we know and politics is
kind of uniquely corrupt in that way, you invite your
friends over for dinner, you whine them and dine them,
and then you say, and by the way, we'd like this,
is that what's going on here?

Speaker 11 (01:10:48):
I mean I can say for certain, but you'd have
to imagine some of this is being used as a reward.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Right, But we do know we see it.

Speaker 11 (01:10:53):
Spike every year in September, year over year, every year
of Congress says they're going to do something about it.
They rarely do the pentsagon. We know their finances are
a mess. We know they can't pass the financial audit.
They never have in the seven years they've been doing them.
And every year Congress threatens them to reduce their funding,
pass legislations, take action, it never actually comes through.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Well, it seems like there's a cut in everybody's mind
of seventy nine billion, right, I mean, it just kind
of looks that way, like at least that thirty three
point one billion. Shit, who got invited to this big dinner?
That's that's I guess that's the thing. Can we see

(01:11:33):
a dinner in that September October time frame where everybody
in Washington, DC, that is, anybody got invited to a
big gala.

Speaker 11 (01:11:45):
I mean, I can't tell you for certain, but it's
so many bolt orders, right, That's how it adds up.
We already had one hundred and twenty seven orders of lobster.
Then you've got, I mean one hundred thousand dollars of
ice cream and doughnuts. And it doesn't stop with the food.
I don't want to make it sound like that's the
only thing they've got. My in here for musical instruments,
and piano tooting. They're buying themselves new iPhone sixteen Promax,

(01:12:06):
that's the new model that just came out. It's all
over their spreadsheets. That's what they're spending money on in September.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
And then here's another thing. They seem to be sending
this out, sixteen point three million on cartains, crates and toolboxes.
So what's that all about. You get the lobster, you
put him in a crate and you send him to Gramma.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Is that I mean that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
What that is?

Speaker 11 (01:12:32):
Yeah, some of it's for shipping, some of it's just
for moving things around internally. Right, It's important to remember
just how large and bureaucratic the Pentagon has become. Most
of it is not but your pictures men and women
in uniform working on military basis. Most of it is
death jobs and research and just overall bloat and bureaucracy. Right,
So they're printing things out. They spend twenty five million
dollars printing out books and pamphlets and newspapers. Spent two

(01:12:55):
hundred million dollars in September putting in new furniture for
their offices. These are big workforces. Most of these people
are not combatants, their civilian workers working to make the pentagon,
you know, booster procurement, booster research, not things that directly
eat our war fighting.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Well, it seems like we could put those cartons in
crates to work for us, if some people would just
find another job. Maybe we can use those to mp
out some offices of some folks that are not military.
Thirty six thousand dollars.

Speaker 11 (01:13:28):
For foot rest What I know, right, that's for their cars.
They're driving around and they've got their nice cars. They're
driving around, and they had enough money left over at
the end of the year. It's by themselves new foot
rests for I guess in between the gas and the
brake pedal. I don't even know where do you put
a foot rest in a car?

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:13:44):
That's what they're buying. That's where your defense budget's going.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
A car foot wrist? Huh?

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
I never.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
I didn't even know such a thing existed. Right, I'm
a short guy. Maybe I need a foot wrist like car.

Speaker 5 (01:13:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
So there's I mean, what is a limousine without a
foot rest? Right?

Speaker 10 (01:14:05):
I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Whoa, Now we're getting tick.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Without a foot rest?

Speaker 10 (01:14:14):
Eyes, I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Gosh, I'm a little dull sometimes. There were nineteen thousand
and forty three different companies that received Pentagon contracts last September,
but thirty one percent of the money went to just vendors.
Lackey Martin received nine point four billion. What is going

(01:14:38):
on with these contracts? Talk to us a little bit
about is this legitimate spending or is this just once again,
my friend has this company, and so we're gonna wind
him in dining with lobster and blueberries, and at the
end of the day we're going to give him a contract.
Is that what that's all about? What's what's going on here?

Speaker 11 (01:15:01):
I mean, it's legitimate spending. But like you mentioned, there's
twenty thousand different companies that got contracts, but a third
of the money went just to the top ten companies.
And the reason for that is because you have these
huge defense contractors like Boeing and Lockheed Martin that pretty
much have a monopoly on this business. Right the big
five companies we refer to, they used to be fifty
one different companies. Then they all merged with each other

(01:15:24):
to reduce the competition. So now the Pentagon it's tough
for them to get good value for their money, right,
because if they want to buy this new weapon or
this new airplane, it's going to be only Boeing that
makes it, or only Lockheed Martin that makes it. And
they're pretty much at the mercy of these big companies.
They have to pay what they're asking or just risk
not getting the weapons and not keeping us safe.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Okay, so we usually do most of our spending right
here in America businesses. But two billion dollars so that
went to foreign companies in September. Foreign companies. Let's talk
about this one in Germany. This Al's Kim Group. What's

(01:16:07):
that about.

Speaker 11 (01:16:09):
Yes, you've got a bunch of foreign contracts going out
all the time, right, But this one in Germany. Right,
they're working with Allscom Group to study nitro guanadine. It's
the something's found in gunpowder some other explosives. So that
quest them four hundred and fifty million dollars sent to
Germany that month partially for that. Then you've got money
sent to Canada to buy explosive to send over to Ukraine.

(01:16:30):
So it's too far too foreign countries betterfitting from that,
We've got money sent to Saudi Arabia and Cotder these
nations you might not think of as American allies. That's
who the DoD is dealing with.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
And what are we buying from Saudi Arabia and Cutter.

Speaker 11 (01:16:46):
We don't know for sure. We know four point five
million dollars went to Saudi Arabia. Right, there's about twenty
countries on this list. But something is just bizarre, right,
I mean, going back to twenty twenty three, we found
parking tickets in here that the DoD got from parking
in some airport in Tokyo cast them about seven thousand dollars.
So some of it's for actual explosives, some of its
nonsense like that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Well, and this is just irresponsible, irresponsible stuff. The Navy
paid seven and thirty six dollars on a ticket one ticket.

Speaker 5 (01:17:21):
What's that?

Speaker 11 (01:17:22):
Yeah, that's what I just mentioned, that parking ticket in Tokyo, right,
But I mean, this money's being spread out all over
the world and you see actually a lot of there's
a report that just came out from the Government Accountability
Office that shows a lot of these trade agreements we
have with the foreign nations, some of them haven't been
reviewed in twenty years, thirty years. They could be hurting
American businesses and our economy. We would have no idea

(01:17:43):
because nobody's keeping track or checking for actually benefiting from
these agreements.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Yeah, you have a direct quote from an inspector general
saying just that, don't you.

Speaker 5 (01:17:55):
That here?

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:18:00):
I think you're referring to, right. We have a quote
in there talking about the Pentagon's inability to pass an audit.
That's another issue comes up every single year for years.
They refuse to even audit themselves. Now they started in
twenty to eighteen. They can't pass an audit, which is illegal.
Happens every year anyway. They're basically admitting, we have an
eight hundred and fifty billion dollar budget, but we don't
know where it's going. Our books are so confusing, so incomplete,

(01:18:21):
that we can't actually tell you where we spend all
our money. We just know it's not here anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
Well, and that isn't that convenient for them?

Speaker 10 (01:18:31):
You know that?

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
Just deny, deny, deny, and what you're left with is
a bunch of lobster that nobody knows. Who ate that lobster?
I mean, it's just like nothing makes sense here, Jeremy.
I guess that's why I went through the whole litany
because all of this, And you know, I get lobster

(01:18:57):
on my birthday. It's my very favorite thing to eat.
But I have to wait for my anniversary and my
birthday to get lobster because we live in Nevad and
lobster is just not a thing in the desert. So
it's irritating to me when something that I think is
special is just something that is bought and given away

(01:19:22):
to who knows who or who knows what.

Speaker 11 (01:19:27):
Yeah, that's totally we're coming to you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:19:31):
Yeah, No, I feel the same way. My sister's birthday
was a couple of months ago. I took her out
for a lobster dinner. It was a special treat, right,
It's not an everyday thing. But right to the point
here is we need more accountability and we need people
to realize that the defense budget is bloated and they're
our cuts that can be made.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Right.

Speaker 11 (01:19:46):
It's unpopular to say that because a lot of times
we worry we don't want to affect our actual military
or our national security. But when people talk about slashing
the defense budget, a lot of that's bloat and waste.
Like we're talking about here, that I think both parties
can agree.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
He just needs to go. Jeremy Portnoy is our guest.
He's an investigative journalist with Open the Books dot Com
and we're talking about government spending, in particular the DoD
Department of Defense. And hey, Jeremy, thank you for holding
through that break. We appreciate your time. Before we get

(01:20:21):
back to spending our ludicrous spending. Jeremy tell us a
little bit about Open the Books, Open the books dot
Com and what you guys do.

Speaker 11 (01:20:33):
Yeah, so, Open the Books dot Com where a nonprofit
focused on government spending and transparency.

Speaker 10 (01:20:38):
Right.

Speaker 11 (01:20:38):
We publish every dime online in real time, so every
salary that gets paid, every check that gets cut by
the federal government, all fifties eight governments, and every local government.
We file freedom of information requests about sixty thousand a
year to publish every dime online and report on it
all to let you know where your money's going and
where spending can be cut.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
God bless Adam man Jevsky. Adam was the founder of
openbooks dot Com. Guest on the show, he's great loss
to all of us. Jeremy Doose doose Elon musk Rick Ramaswami.
Do you think that they're keyed into this kind of

(01:21:19):
ludicrous spending by the Department of Defense.

Speaker 11 (01:21:24):
Yeah, we've had conversations with them. We've had conversations with
this new Doge caucus that's forming in Congress, so they're
definitely aware of it. And now it's going to be
on them right to take action and for Congress to
make some changes. So we'll see if that's coming up.
Hopefully it is.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
Jeremy, when you have conversations with them, do you point
out these numbers and these purchases.

Speaker 11 (01:21:44):
Yeah, we've I mean, they're dependsagon audit right is in
the headlines every year. They're definitely aware of that. But
we show this research just this morning to Senator Joni Ernst,
who's going to be working very closely with Elon Musk
and vig Ramaswami, so they definitely know that this is happening,
and they know of other examples that opened the books
and some other great groups have been identifying for years.
So it's on the cutting board now we'll see if

(01:22:06):
those changes are made.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
Did Senator Ernest have the same reaction to these this
spending the way Sharon Angele.

Speaker 11 (01:22:16):
Did, Actually I'm gonna tell you no, because she doesn't
think it's okay. But she wasn't surprised by it because
the same thing happens year after year. So we already
knew before we looked at the data that we were
probably going to find some absurd purchases in here. That's
exactly what we found.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Well, I'm not surprised about that. But speaking of absurd spending,
something else has been really really big in than is.
In fact, it's consumed the oxygen in the room, literally
and figuratively, and that's the that's the fires in Los Angeles,
and Jeremy, I'll be honest with you, I did a

(01:22:56):
little bit of investigating on my own. When I saw
Bess up there and the the head of the Los
Angeles Fire Department, I was shocked how much these people make,
I mean, Jeremy, they in some cases make more than
the president of the United States.

Speaker 11 (01:23:16):
Some of them are making double the president of the
United States. We found one top firefighter taking over eight
hundred thousand dollars last year because of these absurd overtime
payments that get paid out in Los Angeles to the
top firefighters, top police workers. I mean, I'm sure, they're
working hard and they deserve to be paid well. But
at the same time, when you've got these people really
struggling and in a life threatening situation, you got a

(01:23:37):
reality where some of the resources are going well.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
Jeremy, as you know, and just let our audience. So
it doesn't stop in Los Angeles, it goes up to
San Francisco, it goes to New Orleans. And by the way,
go to their website, Open the Books dot com. Open
the Books dot com. It's a great website. I'm on
it right now. A few other things Jeremy had liked

(01:24:02):
to run by it. The New Orleans Police superintendent has
collected two point nine seven million from taxpayers since twenty sixteen.
Where'd that money go, Jeremy.

Speaker 11 (01:24:18):
So that's about half of that is from her salary
from a bunch of different jobs. She was working in Oakland,
she was working in Chicago for the FBI. The other
half of the legal settlement she got for wrongful terminy
from from Oakland. So she's been collecting from taxpayers for
years now. Obviously, we had that horrible taris Are attack
on New Year's Day and New Orleans a lot of
people calling for her resignation over the way she handled it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Well, she did such a wonderful job in Oakland, of
all places that got fired there. She found a home
in New Orleans and where she didn't know there were
barriers to put up in this streets. But such a disgrace.
Universities partner with China on defense projects. Number one, why

(01:25:04):
are the universities involved in defense? And number two? Why
are they partnering with China? I mean, I don't think
we have any bigger adverissary to the United States and
China right now? What's this about?

Speaker 11 (01:25:19):
Okay, we could talk about that for an hour, but
I think the.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Craziest another ten minutes.

Speaker 11 (01:25:26):
What's happening. A lot of projects funded by the Department
of Defense right go to universities to conduct research on
weapons other war fighting capabilities. Those professors that do the
research will later resign and end up taking jobs with
the Chinese government or with Chinese universities, so they take
their research with them. They're sharing that same research with

(01:25:47):
the Chinese military. The report that just came out from
the House of Representatives saying, if we ever get into
a war with China, now, the Chinese military canon will
use those weapons against us. We funded them, now they
have them.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Well, I mean that is absolutely incredible. We've heard about piracy.
The Chinese are famous, famous for piracy, and not just
piracy on the high seas, but uh, procuring and then
copying everything software, hardware. Now they're doing the same thing

(01:26:23):
with our.

Speaker 11 (01:26:24):
Weapons, right, and a lot of it's funded through these universities.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
Right.

Speaker 11 (01:26:28):
We just had UC Berkeley and Georgia Tech both were
investigated by the House of Representatives for partnering with Chinese
universities on research projects, and it turned out they arguably
weren't doing enough to prevent national security leaks because these
universities are affiliated with the Chinese government. Those programs are
now shutting down, but they've been operating for years.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
No accountability.

Speaker 11 (01:26:53):
Really shutting down the partnerships. But it's already been going
on for years. You can only stop the bleeding now, right,
the damage might be done.

Speaker 1 (01:27:01):
Yeah, that's surely letting the horse, closing the barn door
after the horse has taken off. But what else is
going on? And opened the books that you want our
listeners and viewers to know about.

Speaker 11 (01:27:15):
Oh, let's see what we were talking about. Universities, Right,
we've been working on a big report on ten major
public universities in America looking into their federal funding and
all their foreign funding. So we've been identifying hundreds of
millions of dollars coming in from China, Saudi Arabia, the
United Arab Emirates, cotter all funding public schools that our

(01:27:36):
tax dollars also support for some absurd research projects. You've
got one grant Street from the US that went to
Ohio State to study bug eating and how we can
convince Americans to accept insects as a source of protein.
Five hundred thousand dollars to study. Just so many crazy
examples of what's happening in our schools with our tax dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
I mean, that's incredible, absolutely incredible. What about endowments. Do
you guys ever look into the endowments of these universities.
I would love to see I would love to see.
You know, I'm an anti tax guy, but I'd love
to see the federal government tax the endowments of these

(01:28:19):
huge universities. What about these endowments. You got any news
on that, Jeremy, Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:28:25):
I mean when you look at the law right like
you mentioned, these endowments do not get taxed at the
same rate as other income, even when you see them
increasing by hundreds of millions of dollars over a few years. Right,
So these huge private schools like Harvard and Princeton, they
are allowed to keep a lot of that endowment funding,
which I mean, you can make the argument, right, it's
this form of income and in a way, it's our
tax dollars funding it, right because that money would be

(01:28:47):
going back to the federal government under normal tax regulations. Instead,
it's not. We keep pouring in money in grants and
contracts to fund these universities while they keep all those
endowment funds.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
Jeremy Portanoy opened the books dot com. Jeremy, you get
a headache at the end of the day. I mean
looking into all this stuff. I mean I would get
a headache. My dear friend Shay Sharon Angel calls me
diabola cole. Now, I mean if I had it, if
I had your job as an investigative reporter and I
had to look into all this stuff, I'd, seriously, Jeremy,

(01:29:23):
I'd be banging my head on the wall.

Speaker 11 (01:29:26):
It can feel like that sometimes, right, But I mean
it's exciting work, and it's important work.

Speaker 6 (01:29:31):
Right.

Speaker 11 (01:29:31):
People need to be aware of this. And you know,
you've really seen, especially since this new Doge Caucus was formed, right,
You've seen the national conversation kind of shift towards a
focus on government spending. And I think more than ever,
people are realizing what's happening, that we need some accountability
to change all this ways that's in our government. Uh,
and I'm optimistic that over the next few years we'll

(01:29:52):
see that begins to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
Jeremy Opened the Books dot com at Jeremy Portinoy, please
tell our list and view ways Sala. They can follow
your work, read the things that you're right while the
research you do, and find out we're about Open the books.

Speaker 11 (01:30:09):
Yeah, a lot of work is on openthbooks dot com.
I also have my daily column Cold Waste the Day
that's over at Real Clear Investigations dot com. So that's
Unfortunately every single day I can find an example of
some sort of taxpayer of views to bring to you.

Speaker 9 (01:30:22):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (01:30:22):
You can follow me on Twitter as well at Jeremy Portnoy.
Always happy to connect.

Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
Oh, Jeremy, we want to thank you so much for
joining us. More importantly, Jeremy, I want to thank you seriously.
I want to thank you for the work that you
do and for the work that is done by openthethooks
dot com. We we really need you, guys, We really do. Jeremy,
thank you so much for joining us. Take care and

(01:30:49):
God bless take care. Eric, thanks for having me and
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Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commander's Radio
Show with Sharon Angle and I'm Rick Trader, coming to
you from the My Pillow Studios and My Store studios
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know you, and I and a whole lot of other
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(01:32:58):
we're not alone, and we're I want to talk to
one of those people right here, right now, So Sharon,
please make that introduction.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
That's always my pleasure to introduce doctor Rich Schwier, who
is a conservative with the conscience. Rich is a twenty
three year Army veteran who retired as Lieutenant colonel. He
was awarded the Legion of Merit for his years of service,
and additionally, he was awarded two Bronze Stars with v
for Valor and Heroism in ground combat, the President Unit Citation,

(01:33:30):
and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry while serving with the
one hundred and first Airborne Division in Vietnam. Doctor Rich
now publishes the doctor rich schwire dot com report, a
daily new review of news issues and commentary. Rich has
a new book out, Dissent, The Highest Form of Patriotism.

(01:33:55):
Doctor Rich, Welcome back to the Conservative Commanders Radio Show.

Speaker 12 (01:34:00):
An honor to be with you on this show. This
is my first interview in the year twenty twenty five
with a nationally internationally known Rick Trader, a un TV show.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
They now have a new word for Rick Traders, the
diabolical ones. And I'll tell you doctor Rich, who pined
that name on me, and that's the dear lady you're
talking with.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
All right, whatever, all right, whatever, the boss. Well, as
a military man, you were instrumental in helping young people
determine truth, fight for truth and freedom. And I want
you to talk a little bit about that involvement, how

(01:34:52):
that pours over, how your experiences in the military kind
of pour over into what's going on today.

Speaker 12 (01:35:01):
Well, let me just give you two quick examples. Like
when I was in Vietnam, we had an incident when
we were out. We were first arrived in Vietnam. We
were out for the first time on a mission, and
I called in field arks. I was a field arcs overman.
I called in fire to protect us in case somebody

(01:35:22):
attacked us, and then the infantry had their mortar platoon
do the same thing. Well, one of those rounds fell
short and it injured several people. I mean, the last
thing I heard was the first I was sitting with
the first art in the company command. I heard the
first arden say incoming, I hit the ground. The mortar

(01:35:45):
round went off. There were multiple people Americans killed by
their own not wounded by their own mortar fire. What
really aggravated me was we had an embedded room. That
reporter wanted us to kick one of the men that

(01:36:06):
were wounded off of a Menevac helicopter so he could
fly back and report the story about how we have
screwed up and harmed our own people with our own fire.
That taught me something about the character of that quorterer.
When when I was there for Ted of sixty Ted

(01:36:26):
of sixty eight, we destroyed the North Vietnamese army in
the vietcom literally destroyed them by the killed them by
the tens of thousands. I come home and what do
I hear Walter Kronkaite say, We've lost the war. We
didn't lose the war.

Speaker 1 (01:36:46):
We won that war.

Speaker 12 (01:36:48):
As a matter of fact. It comes out later the
North Vietnamese were ready to surrender until John Kerry and
his crew got into the streets of Washington, d C.
It started March, you know, and and and this whole
anti Vietnam. I mean, I was called a baby killer.
I never killed a baby. Now the Democrats killed I

(01:37:10):
don't know how many sixty million babies. I never killed
a baby. Okay, that's not my job.

Speaker 10 (01:37:17):
My job was killed the enemy. And that's what I
did so.

Speaker 12 (01:37:21):
I'm very I'm very skeptical about the how reporters report
on our US military.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
And I found that.

Speaker 12 (01:37:32):
I learned that in Vietnam on the ground, and I
learned it after I got back from Vietnam and a
sad situation.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
And the media really hasn't changed. Test they're still promoting
an agenda rather than truth.

Speaker 12 (01:37:46):
Yes, yes, I mean the truth was if they would
have checked them just simply. I don't understand Walter Krink
comes there for a day and a half or two
days fly back and says we've lost the war.

Speaker 10 (01:37:58):
That doesn't mean to me that was insane. You know,
for those all those men that I stood by, many
of them killed, wounded, brave men two but won them
cresh the model of honor.

Speaker 12 (01:38:15):
The reporter doesn't report on one of them black, a
black sergeant and a white sergeant. Unfortunately the black sergeant
was killed. This metal honor was posthumous. Do they report
on that.

Speaker 5 (01:38:28):
No.

Speaker 10 (01:38:29):
We found five thousand bodies the.

Speaker 12 (01:38:32):
Marines when they went in, we cleared the city away.
Marines went in, clear the city. Found five thousand men,
women and children with their hands behind their back with
bob wire shot in the back of the head by
the North Vietnamese and the Vietnam Did anybody report on that?
Do you ever see any news in that. No, they

(01:38:53):
covered it up.

Speaker 10 (01:38:55):
But they wanted to fly.

Speaker 12 (01:38:56):
They wanted to fly on a metavac helic A reporter
wanted to fly in a metavac helicopter to report that
we had a round fell shart and some of our
men were wounded.

Speaker 10 (01:39:04):
Well, you know what, that's the ballgame. It just happens.

Speaker 12 (01:39:08):
As they say in the military, shi t happens. It's
a snap foo okay, fine, okay. So that's that's the
way I feel. I've learned that way back in nineteen
sixty seven.

Speaker 10 (01:39:20):
The media is fake.

Speaker 12 (01:39:22):
I learned it in sixty eight when I heard Walter Cronkite.
And it hasn't stopped. It's gotten worse.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
And you know, the reason I bring this all up
is because this generation thinks that the first ones to
go through this kind of intolerable fake news, fake reporting,
fake history, they think that somehow there's a better place

(01:39:49):
to live in this world than the United States of America,
that there's a better country, And it's based on what
they're hearing in the media. We kind of went through
that same thing, didn't we doctor Rich during that Vietnam
War cycle and its continues on. Where that's the fight
that we're in right now.

Speaker 10 (01:40:10):
Yeah, I mean, I you know, I was.

Speaker 12 (01:40:13):
You know, it's we're in a situation now where they're
going after people simply because they believe in faith, family,
and freedom. We're seeing grandmothers, a grandmother who was happened
to be in the Capitol on January sixth, put in prison.

(01:40:36):
A grandmother. Come on, now, I mean, what threat is
a grandmother? We saw an we saw a veteran, a
woman veteran shot dead for what and the man who
shot her was promoted whose character is? I mean, there's

(01:40:58):
a hundred ways to subdue them. You don't need to
shoot them. I mean they have stink, you know, they
have anyway he get. The guy is huge. He could
have tackled her. That's all, you know. It's it's it's sick.

Speaker 10 (01:41:13):
It's sick. And now we're finding out.

Speaker 6 (01:41:16):
That.

Speaker 12 (01:41:17):
You know, it's funny because I was a JFK Democrat.
I believed in what JFK stood for. He was anti communist,
he was the he was a you know, he was
a lifetime member of National Rifle Association, lifetime Member of

(01:41:38):
the Rifle of the National Rifle Association. You know that
that rifle they always hold up, the AR fifteen assault weapon.
Oh ok, we got to get rid of his assault
You know who introduced that into the military and I
was the first unit to carry it.

Speaker 10 (01:41:54):
JFK.

Speaker 12 (01:41:55):
He over overturned his own generals because they wanted the
seven point six y two millimeter round. He wanted a
five light er five point five six in the r
and the Armor Life fifteen, which then turned out to
be the M sixteen rifle, which is still in the inventory.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
So he was right.

Speaker 12 (01:42:18):
You know, it's like Trump, he was right. That's why
they tried to assas That's what they did. Assassinate him
and his brother because he was right. And that's why
they tried to assassinate Donald J. Trump, because he's right.

Speaker 7 (01:42:32):
He's telling the truth else just the way it is.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
Well, and I think we need to be careful when
we talk about they This is an insidious infiltration of
our culture by a group that cares for nothing but themselves.
And we're going to talk about that chaos on the
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Speaker 1 (01:45:01):
Welcome Back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos with Sharon
Angle Armor Trader Committee from the Mypillar Studios and My
Store Studios of the AU and TV Network. Again, I
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Too many thingy time, kiddo, what you got?

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
Well, I Jesse Jackson is dead but eighty four, and
I I think that it's worthwhile talking a little bit
about who Jesse Jackson was. I know and in our
audience will remember him. He was an activist. I don't

(01:46:13):
think he started out there in nineteen seventy three. He
was not that guy that we knew in nineteen seventy three,
before the presidential camp campaigns for the Democrat Party became
a machine rather than just a regular party function. He

(01:46:40):
was not for abortion. He was truly we would have
received him into the conservative movement.

Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
But after that he.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
He he got swayed. But I want to read you
what he said about abortion in nineteen seventy three. He said,
it's not healthcare, it's not reproductive justice, it's not a
deeply personal choice. It's genocide. That's what he wrote. And

(01:47:22):
from there then he was persuaded to join into that
Democrat Party, and from there he lost his bearings. He
became that person who became theologically and morally corrupted. And

(01:47:49):
I just wanted to say that I'm sorry to hear
of Jesse Jackson's passing. Wasn't a friend of mine, and
he leads leaves a legacy of pro abortion and racial
tension behind. He was part of the protests that put

(01:48:14):
this country into a place that it's in now, But
he didn't start out that way.

Speaker 9 (01:48:23):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:25):
Power corrupts, and absolute power absolutely corrupts. Yep, Well that's
that's the problem, or was the problem for Jesse Jackson
found a home in the Democrat Party and they used
him and he used them. On a little lighter note,

(01:48:47):
Hillary Clinton, well, can I go ahead?

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
All right? Started out as the Reverend Jesse Jackson was
the psydekic of Martin Luther King. I can remember when
Martin Luther died, I'm thinking, well, who now is going
to take over Martin Luther King's work, and I thought
it might be Jesse Jackson. Jesse Jackson, in my opinion,

(01:49:13):
was a race bate hustler. Okay, he was. He found
that he could make a lot of money from dividing people.
I think he found out he could make a lot
of money becoming a race hustler. I remember he and
his organization's rainbow push blackmailing companies to give to his organization,

(01:49:42):
and if they didn't, he would call on Wycotts. I
remember Coca Cola was one of his targets. And in
my opinion, what Jesse Jackson did was the same thing
the Mafia did that put the mafia in prison. Blackmailing

(01:50:03):
and threatening corporation, blackmailing and threatening individuals. He profited from this.
He profited from dividing America. He may have started out
with the right intentions with the right right people, But

(01:50:23):
to be honest with you, Sharon, I agree with you
somewhere he went off track. You know. I said to
Mary this morning when we heard about the death, and
I hope he enjoys meeting God. Mary said, well, he's
now met his maker. But I would like to know
the last time the Reverend Jesse Jackson was even in

(01:50:45):
the church. I would like to know the last time
the Reverend Jesse Jackson gave a sermon other than maybe
go into a church and make it a political event
more than a religious service. Got to tell the truth
about people sometime, and sometimes you got to tell the

(01:51:07):
truth about them on the day of their death. I
hope he repented for what I think was some evil
things by dividing the country so he could get rich.
I hope that when he met his maker today, he
was able to meet his maker on good terms. That's

(01:51:30):
all I've got to say about that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:33):
Well, I want to go on just to lighten it
up a little bit. Another one of the leftiest that
has been a scourged to this country, Hillary Clinton and
her husband Bill, She put out on Valentine's Day. So
here we are, President Dave Valentine's Day. I've got a

(01:51:54):
picture of her and Bill in the early days, taken
in the ninth teen seventies or eighties, when she was
dancing with Bill at a formal dance.

Speaker 1 (01:52:08):
He was looking wearing a blue dress.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
She was wearing a gray slax, black sling back heels
and a pink jacket and wearing.

Speaker 1 (01:52:21):
A blue dress. No, No, you know where I'm going
with that, don't you.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
This is this is how this thing goes. So she
posts this on on social media, and she needs it
to be sweet, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
She's such a sweet says, have a.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
Lovely Valentine's Day.

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
Well then the comments started pouring in and this is
you know, I don't know conservatives that follow Hill Hillary Clinton,
So these are are her folks, these are her people
that are coming back gattery. And they started mentioning the
blue dress, Monica Lewinsky's blue dress, and before her Miss Flowers,

(01:53:12):
and and then after that Jeffrey Epstein. So the the
whole thing really kind of blew up, went viral, and
what was meant to be happy Valentine's Day became a
roast Bill Clinton Day.

Speaker 5 (01:53:31):
Oh gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
So anyway, no good deed goes unpunished, right for poor
Hillary just try and just trying to be ah fun,
you know, fun loving and fun. But anyway, it's a
it's a it's a sad commentary on how things end up,

(01:53:58):
just like Jesse Jackson's life. The two, I feel are
sort of linked because Bill and Hillary Clinton started out
in the sixties and seventies as a couple, then ambition,

(01:54:19):
money power again, that absolute power absolutely corrupts and where
are they today being their marriage is a mockery, and
Bill Clinton is probably, well, you would hope, going to
jail for crimes against young women. He skipped out of

(01:54:48):
the Monica Lewinsky thing by saying, well, it just depends
on what the definition of is is. And they acquitted him.
So it's one of those things where he has escaped
and escaped and escaped going to jail for his perversion.

(01:55:12):
But it may have caught him this time because I
don't think these Jeffrey Epstein files are going to go away.
That the Democrats won't let it go away. They're scratching,
scratching at it more and more, you know, give us more,
give us more, and the more that it comes out,

(01:55:33):
the harder it's getting on folks. We've now got, you know,
people on the CEOs of company like Bahyatt resigning saying
I'm not going to do this anymore because of bad
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Speaker 1 (01:56:12):
And I think with Prince uh Prince Andrew and Prince Andrew,
you know, sharing what it reminds me of, we'll never
hear about politicians with power with using that power to
get sex. Reminding me what Henry Kissinger said, power is

(01:56:35):
the greatest affrodisac and surely Bill Clinton used that well.

Speaker 2 (01:56:42):
And Jesse Jackson and Hillary Clinton. You know, we talked
about three people that you know, they started out with
good intentions, but they got.

Speaker 1 (01:56:55):
Way late. You know Hillary Clinton. Actually Hillary Clinton got
way late. We're early. I just saw something the other
day remind me where she was one of the Watergate
lawyers and she was fired from her position and her
supervisor at that said, she is a liar, She's she's

(01:57:16):
a sneaky and she cannot be trusted. She could not
be trusted. That's why she lost her job as one
of the Watergate lawyers prosecuting Watergate, prosecuting, prosecuting Richard Nixon.
And let's let's put it out there. You know, the
prosecutor was out to get Richard Dixon, got him, got him.

(01:57:37):
But Hillary Clinton was such a sneak, such a liar.
Even the prosecutor fired her because he said she's in
whirl in corrupt and that was in her early days,
in her early twenties, right out of law school when
she got that job. Well, you know what, Sharon, let's
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