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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome everybody. Welcome, fellow patriots, Welcome, fell to plorables, Welcome
all of you drakes to society, rock well sycophon stinkos, cymocrats, somophobe, xenophones.
You know the names. You know what the left call you,
you know what we call you. That's friends, alice and
patriots and by whoever you are, you're always welcome here.

(00:28):
And this place is the Conservative Commanders Radio show, and
I'm Rick Trader coming to you from the my Pillow
studios and my Sore studios of the au N TV
network and joining me today as my co host as
he does to lead off for week, is the president
and CEO of Frontiers of Freedom, and that's George Landrath.

(00:49):
And George, welcome back, Welcome back to Conservative Commandos.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
It's great to be here. After all, this is the
place to be, so you know, it couldn't be in
any place better.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
All George, it's almost where do we start? I mean,
where do we start our conversations? There's so much going on.
The peace talks with Iran has failed. President Trump said
he's now putting the blockade on Iran that might blow
up again. We got that, we got er. Actually, well,
we got so much to talk about. Where do you

(01:21):
want to start today?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Well, let's start off with what's going on in Iran
and the Strait of horm moves and stuff, because I
think that might be the biggest story of the situation
with Iran because the weekend peace talks in Pakistan collapsed
without a deal, which isn't really that shocking because when
you look at what Iran wanted in the deal, they
basically wanted the US to give them lots of money.

(01:43):
They wanted the US to let them have nuclear weapons,
they wanted the US you know, it's just like, yeah,
that's crazy. So I'm not surprised there's no agreement because
but anyhow, President Trump has now ordered the US Navy
to begin blockading the Iranian ports that are, you know,
in the Strait of arm Ooz starting today, and Iran's
upset about that, of course, saying it's piracy, but it's

(02:04):
not piracy when they do it, So that's interesting. And
of course they're threatening retaliation against their friends, or not friends,
but their neighbors, because there are friends, but they're their
neighbors in the Gulf region. So I think that there'll
be probably a massive increase in the bombing and destruction
of Iran, which is probably the best result because we

(02:26):
have to there. There will be no peace as long
as the mollocracy continues to have power. The only way
to have peace is to remove the mollocracy. And so
this comes out for within six weeks of Operation Epic Fury,
in which the US and Israel have significantly downgraded Iran's
nuclear sites, its missile production, and its naval forces and

(02:50):
its air force. But I think the presence message is
pretty clear. The strait of our moves must remain open
to international shipping, and Iran must never be allowed to
develop the nuclear weapon. And so his blockade is a
serious step to basically put financial difficulty on the Iranian
regime because you know, in the past we had weak

(03:13):
policies that allowed it a run to grow bolder, gave
them cash and gave them billions and billions of dollars.
And he's basically going to shut off the spickett And
maybe this might do some things that even bombing couldn't
do so, or maybe this and bombing will do the
things because we want peace, but not at the price
of letting a terror sponsoring regime threaten global energy supplies

(03:36):
and rebuild its nuclear program.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
George, are you as surprised as I md at these
peace talks fell apart so fast. I really thought they
would go on longer. I thought Iranian would, the Iranians
would stall longer and just to drag this thing out, knowing,
knowing that the American people have such a short extent

(04:01):
attention span, they want this thing done and over with
as soon as possible because they want to get back
to cheap guess lean. They don't care about a ran
with the nuclear weapon. Just give me my cheap guess.
I thought that they'd string it out long or maybe
vance and the others said this is the deal. Either

(04:22):
make it now or we're walking.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah. I mean I thought it might last longer because
there was a two week ceasefire, and so I thought
maybe it was going to take two weeks. But that
worried me because in the past, what Iran has used
peaceful talks about was just a way to get a
temporary ceasefire to allow it to rebuild and reorganize its
military efforts. And so I think it's best that it's

(04:45):
short because in example is when you're retreating, retreating is
not surrender. It's an attempt to get your army back
together and make sure that you can then restart the
war and reattach and things like that. So I would
argue that it's best that it did go short, and
it shows a willingness to say, nope, this is about peace.

(05:09):
We're not going to negotiate over whether or not you
get nuclear weapons. We're not going to negotiate whether you
get to control the Straits of hor Moves because the
Strait of horm Moves is international water. While it's close
to their border. It's not like we have the right
to rule over say the Mississippi River, right yep. But

(05:30):
we don't have the right to rule over the entire
Atlantic Ocean simply because we're bordering the Atlantic Ocean. But
because they're so close there and it's so small that
they only half the Straight of horm Moves is theirs
and the other half belongs to other Gulf nations, and
yet they try to rule it all. So like if
the US just acted like nobody can have a ship

(05:51):
in the Atlantic Ocean or we're going to sink it,
people would be like, wait a minute, you don't own
the whole Atlantic ocean, and that's true, we don't. And
so it's just very interesting and I'm hopeful that we're
all to basically completely undermine the current regime.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Well, George, I I was not in favor of the ceasefire,
especially as two weeks ease fire. I thought that was
long too long. If they wanted to negotiate, they could
negotiate while the war continued. That's my opinion. But I
think that when we start bombing, we start should start

(06:30):
bombing early before Ran allows their human shields to develop
around their bridges, around their power plants. You know, that
would that would not show very well for the for
Donald Trump if he should attack these facilities when they
had human shields around him.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, of course, what that would really be as a
war crime by the Iranians.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Well, if you listen to them, the people on here
in this country, they they would say it's our work
crime that we committed that. Well they are, but that's
something from talking, you know, I think that there would
be calls for impeachments and all the southern garbage work crimes,

(07:17):
and and then people around world say, look, his own
people are saying this is a work crime. It must
be a war crime.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Well, well, it's pretty dumb because if you think about it,
then in the future, if a country wants to build
a missile launch system, let's say Cuba wanted to build
a missile launch system towards America, then they'd be smart
to build it on top of a hospital, because they didn't.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
That's exactly what they do.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, and if we were to attack it, they would
act like, oh my gosh, they're bombing on hospital. And
it's kind of like, no, we're bombing a missile facility
that's aimed at us, and they happen to build it
on hospital, and that's what a lot of them do,
you know, Like, that's what I'm ast. They would use hospitals, schools,

(08:04):
other things that were designed to look like civilian facilities,
and they would make them military facilities. And if they
want to do that, that's their business, and they then
will end up with military actions against them. But for
some reason they want to act like it's a war crime.
It's like, no, it's not. The war crime is putting

(08:28):
military facilities in schools, hospitals, or other you know, civil
kind of things, Like look at American where do we
have American military bases? Is there a single American military
base that is built on top of or in the
basement of a hospital. Some of our military bases may
have a hospital to treat our veterans and things like that.

(08:50):
But my point is we don't hide our missile launchers
and our missile facilities and different things like that in
schools and in hospitals.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Nor did we have nor do we have control centers
and churches. You know, it's at least then that I know,
if that's that's for sure. So you expect the bombing
to start soon. And once the bombing starts, you know,
Donald Trump said this would last for from four to

(09:20):
six weeks. Well we're six weeks already. Well you think
he's going to say, well, we have the we had
the pause, and that's got to count. But that cannot
count within this six weeks. See, I'm looking, I'm as
I say, I would rather have five gas prices than
an Iranian missilo from my head with the nuclear weapons.

(09:40):
But you know, we've got the permanent, We've got the
mid terms that are coming up real soon. And these
are these midterms are so important because George, you know
that if Democrats take control of the House, it's going
to be impeachments and investigations. Nothing is going to get done.

(10:01):
Nothing is going to get done.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
They'll raise taxes, they'll do a lot more of you know,
they'll basically do just a bunch of left wing stuff,
the kind of stuff that Joe Biden did that destroyed
our country, kind of stuff that quite frankly Obama did
that destroyed our country and made healthcare ridiculously expensive.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
And then right after midterms, while that, guess what, they're
gearing up for the presidential election. I mean, these election
cycles become shorter and shorter all the time. And by
the way, there was something else I wanted to discuss
with you talking about the things that come out on
Fox News last week on The Lord Ingram Show. She

(10:42):
was talking about an article that was in the New
York Times about the decision to tobamb Moran. That in
the situation room, President Trump had all this people there
and he went around the room and ask everyone in
his opinion. When you got around the jd evans, jd

(11:03):
Evan said, well, I wouldn't do it, but if you do,
you have my total sports. That really concerns me, George,
because that tells me that if jd Vance was making decisions,
the decision that Donald Trump made to attack Rim would
not happen. So to me, jd Vance is nothing more
than your George Bush one or two I when it

(11:23):
gets your opinion on that comment by jd Vance.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, I think it's problematic because I understand that part
of the risk, of course, in bombing them is that
you have this conflict where they're bombing their neighbors and
doing other things and threatening the straightfor moves and other
things like that. But like I said, a world in
which they have nuclear weapons and missile systems that can
deliver those nuclear weapons is a very dangerous world to

(11:50):
live in. Indeed, it is an example, would be far
more dangerous than Russia because and I'm not saying that
Russia having missiles and you know, nuclear weapons isn't ideal.
I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that it's not
as dangerous as if the Iranian regime had it. And
so the same thing with China, because these are regimes

(12:12):
that I think recognize and care about things like mutually
assured destruction, meaning that if they shoot missiles at us,
we could shoot a lot of them down and they
do limited damage, and then we would send hundreds or
thousands of missiles towards them, they wouldn't get them all
shot down, and we'd basically just you know, wreck their nation.
And so they're disinterested. The mulos don't care. They hate

(12:33):
their own people. They kill them by tens of thousands, right,
you know, sometimes every day, and so they are not
going to be dissuaded from that. If they have missiles
that they can hit their neighbors in Europe and so forth,
they'll gladly use them.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
But what about Jady's comment? Does that concern you as
much as it concerns me.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Well, I think it shows kind of a misunderstanding of
what the real risks. So it does worry me a
bit because, I mean, if you look at his history,
he was only a senator for a little while then
became vice president, so he doesn't have a lot of
what i'd call national security and foreign relations experience, and
I think that comment may have demonstrated that.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
All right, George, let's get a break in. On the
other side of the break, I'm going to ask you
to tell our listeners and viewers about our guests for today.
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Thank you for staying with this. This is the Conservative
Commands with George landerth and I'm Rick Trader and hey George,
we got a couple of great guests joining us today.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
We do, but I hate to break it to you
that's not news, because news is something that's kind of
you weren't expecting, didn't know what happened. But with the
Conservative Commandos, we always have the very best guests all
the time, and so it's hardly news that we have
the best guest because it's kind of like, after more
than ten years, they actually do. But anyhow, so we're

(17:13):
going to have, for example, Jeff Couair. He has an
award winning program Ringside Politics, and that is on WGSO
in New Orleans and also on WGSO dot com, so
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And it's also televised nationally on Real America's Voice TV

(17:34):
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dot News. And he's also the author of America's Last Chance.
And if you want to hear some of his regular commentaries,
you can go to Jeff quare his YouTube channel, and
if you want to read them, you can go to

(17:54):
his website Cruair dot net, cr o U e er et.
And then, of course our second guest is going to
be Art Harmon, and he is the president of the
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Artemis trip around the Moon, I think he'll be someone

(18:16):
very interesting to talk to. But he was also a
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think art will be a very insightful and interesting person

(18:39):
to talk with.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Indeed, indeed, indeed, again a couple of great guests joining
us here at Conservative Commanders Well, Georgia. Another big breaking
news item over the weekend was Eric Schlowell has decided
to suspend his campaign for governor. I found this for
very interesting. And Manhattan DIA is launching an investigation into

(19:05):
sexual assault allegation that apparently there was a former staffer
that was having drinks with him in New York City,
she became heavily intoxicated. The next thing that she knew,
she woke up in his hotel room, in his bed,
with him having sex with her, and she said that

(19:29):
she was too intoxicated to consent. She said she tried
to push him off, he said no, and he just
continued to do what he was doing These are some
very serious allegations, George, for a man who is holding
a seat in the West South of Representatives. I know

(19:51):
that these are allegations at this point it might be
he's sayd versus she says. But there's a total of
four women that now have come forward making accusations against sir. Actually, well,
and you know what, they're all Democrat woman.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, that's a good point. That helps people know that
they're not doing it for ideological reasons, and that's important
because that means it's much more likely to be true.
And it's just very interesting because you know he's it's
a former staffer, and you know he apparently sexually assault
her at least twice. It's kind of interesting because the

(20:31):
Democrats like to act like they're pro woman, and yet
we see this all kinds of things going on. How
many people have we heard of that are Democrats, including
people like Joe Biden who sexually assaulted you know, staffers
and women who worked for him and so forth. And
he had you know, Bill Clinton abusing a young intern

(20:54):
and just all these other kind of things, and you
wonder yourself, hmm, this is interesting. And of course they're
okay with men going to women's bathrooms. They're okay with
men taking away women's scholarships and championships and sporting events,
and so it's kind of like, yeah, don't tell me
you care about women, because it's very clear that you don't.

(21:19):
So I think the Democrats will probably have to go
after him because it's so embarrassing and so obvious, and
I think they'd like it to not be so obvious.
I mean, some of the other policies are pretty clearly
obvious as well, and they won't necessarily change that. But
Eric Swallwell's in the news right now, and he'll do

(21:40):
a lot of damage to their credibility. So I think
they probably will, you know, punt.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Him, Georgie, I guarantee you this was a Republican. Every
Democrat in Congress should be calling for their resignation and
his arrest. And this continues again, George. If his own
family can't trust this man, how can the people of California.

(22:06):
What an ugly, ugly situations. But you know what, I
always remind myself something Henry Kissinger said, power is the
greatest staff for desiac. You know, I don't know that
you know Eric Shleetwell when he was a district attorney
in the Oakland, California area. He said he was a

(22:29):
champion of women. He was going after the sexual predators.
My god, he was one of himself.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, well, that's you know, example would be they like
to act like they're serious and they're trying to do
well for people. But one of the things we have
to realize is that Karl Marx, the inventor of Marxism,
told them that one of the things they needed to
do was, you know, whatever they're doing, accuse your opponents

(22:58):
of doing it, because that will then give you greater
capacity to create confusion and hide what you're doing. And
so that's what the left's up to, and that's part
of the game and it's part of their ideology.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
George white House is on your radar screen.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Well, of course, the Virginia germandering referendum that will be
voted on, well it's being voted on now with early voting,
but the final vote and the normal voting at your
normal voting locations will be on April twenty first. And
you know, Virginia voters face a critical decision because Democrats
are pushing a constitutional amendment that would let the general Assembly,

(23:41):
scrap the independent Redistrict and Commission that voters approved of
through constitutional means in twenty twenty, and oppose a new
congressional map that turns the current six to five split,
meaning there are six Democrats and five Republicans representing Virginia
in the House of Representatives and two Senators representing the Democrats.

(24:03):
So I guess it's eight to five split, but if
you don't count the two senators because there's no germandering
in the Senate. But anyhow, they want to switch it
from six to five to ten to one by making
virtually every district have a portion of northern Virginia in it.
So you have these really weird shaped districts that clearly,

(24:26):
you know, one of them looks like a lobster. But
this is a blatant power grab designed to disenfranchise nearly
half of Virginia's voters. And the ballot language is deliberately dishonest.
It talks about restoring fairness without ever showing the rib
maps to voters. In fact, they were instructed to not
show the rib maps and things like that. So it's

(24:49):
very interesting to me. And then of course the left
is pretending that GOP is the major and most outrageous
germandering force, but that's not true. For example, they act
Texas is a big problem, and Texas didn't violate its constitution.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Or the law to do this, and a court upheld
what it did.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
But anyhow, an example would be Massachusetts has over a
third of the voters as Republicans, but zero GOP seats.
Connecticut forty two percent GOP voters but zero seats in
Congress again, and then of course Maine has forty six
percent GOP voters but zero seats. New Hampshire forty six

(25:30):
also percent GOP voters, zero seats, Rhode Island has forty
two percent GOP voters and zero seats. Vermont thirty two
percent GOP voters, zero seats, Hawaii has thirty eight PERCENTP voters,
zero seats, Delaware forty two percent GOP voters, zero seats.

(25:50):
And then you have California, Oregon, Washington, Maryland, New York,
and Illinois. They have big time gerrymandering as well. So
that people support the leftist Virginia geymandering plan to disenfranchise
close to half the state. They're just using hypocrisy in falsehood,
and that's very revealing.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well, George, you were right there in Virginia. What are
the polls saying, what are your neighbors saying, what are
the people of Virginia's talking about this issue? And do
you think it's going to end up Supreme Court?

Speaker 5 (26:27):
Well?

Speaker 2 (26:27):
It could, I mean definitely, Well probably if it passes,
it will go to the Virginia Supreme Court, and then
the question is the US Supreme Court also? I don't know,
but in terms of.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
You know what bothers me, George, if this was Republicans
doing this, the Democrats would have been to court long, long,
long time ago trying to stop this. Where are these
feckless Republicans? When are they going to start standing up
from them for themselves?

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, well it's been frustrating. I mean, they did file
a lawsuit, and the court based said that they were
going to wait until the thing passed to decide it
because it was quote, you know, just a theoretical dispute
right now. But at any rate, I think that the
polling shows that the overwhelming majority of Virginians, you know,

(27:16):
like over seventy five percent disapprove of this plan. Well hopefully,
And I think how you know that's true is that
when Abigail Spanberger was running for office, she promised everybody
that she hated the idea of germandering and that she
thought it was damaging to the Constitution and to the
principle of democracy. And then what does she do. The

(27:39):
first bill she signs is one to do a ger
mandering thing that is radical and be one of the
most radical in the country. And so what that lets
you know is that she knew that in the average
Virginia didn't support it, didn't like it, and so she
had to lie to them, as she did about everything

(28:00):
she told them. She was worried about the cost of living.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
What does she do.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
She increases taxes on many different levels and refuses to
reduce taxes. And she's also imposed regulations on energy that
have increased energy costs as well. So what it tells
you is the left lies just as much as they breathe.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Indeed, all right, cheurche, Well let's get a break in
here because we do have a couple of great guests
that we'll be joining as Jeff Couererr, host of Brings
Side Politics, and our friend Art Harmon, who is very
interested in the space program, was at the Artemist launching
and we'll get his views about the overall Artemist mission.

(28:47):
This is the Conservative Commandos. I'm Ritraiter, My coast is yours,
Landrith and we'll be right back with her guests right
after this break.

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Hey, welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commanders with
George Landrath and I'm Rick Trader coming to you from
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Television Network. Hey, Georgia, a great friend for the show,
is joining us once again. Please make that an introduction.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Absolutely well, we always have the very best guests on
TV and radio, and we've got Jeff Kuerer here to
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(32:35):
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(32:57):
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(33:18):
website quaer dot net. That's c R O U E
R E dot net. Jeff, thanks for joining us again today.
We really appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (33:29):
Thank you, George. I appreciate you, appreciate you having.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Me absolutely well. I wanted to ask you about the
Hungarian election because they had a major parliamentary election yesterday
and there was a significant upset, at least in the
sense that Victor Orbon has been in office for sixteen years,
while he was behind in the polls dramatically for the
last several months. I was not surprised by the loss,

(33:54):
but some people are. But the Teasa Party won a
huge majority of the seats in the parliament and they
have a new leader now that will be Peter Mudyar.
And I think a lot of conservatives kind of viewed Orbon,
and I think, quite frankly so did Donald Trump as
somehow a strong voice for national sovereigny, border security and

(34:15):
traditional values. But I think they also may have missed
this fact, which was he was clearly a friend and
ally of Putin and Jijingping. He opposed Ukraine. And I've
met with people from the new party, the T's the party,
and they are clearly very pro American. They have a
great deal of respect and interest in our constitution. One
of the things they asked me for is if they

(34:37):
wanted to make some constitutional changes, because they felt like
some of the changes that Orbon made were designed to
make him more powerful and so forth. They wanted to
have their constitution be more like the American Constitution. It
was an interesting conversation. I told him that's a great idea,
but obviously I'll give you ideas that would be good
to have your constitution, but you need to make it
sound like it's Hungarian because you don't necessarily want it

(34:58):
to feel like a Americans impose their constitution on you.
You just want to take some of these principles that work,
because these are I would argue, the enailable rights. If
they're given to you by God, that means they're not
American rights. They are God given rights, and that means
that all of his children, all of the planet are

(35:19):
supposed to have them. But sadly, so many governments don't
do that. But any rate, I wanted to ask you
what you thought of it and what your assessment was.

Speaker 8 (35:27):
Well that election.

Speaker 7 (35:28):
You know, I'm glad to hear that this new party
is not a left winging bunch of progressive radicals. I
think Worbond really was one that in the conservative movement here.
We found some support for him because of his strong
border policy, because he was standing firm against some of

(35:51):
the progressive policies of the EU. He also didn't believe that, yeah,
you know that what we were doing here in this
country was anything to be opposed to. He's very supportive
of President Trump, So there was a close bond between
President Trump and Victor Orbond, which was why JD. Vance

(36:11):
went over there in the final hours to make a
last ditch effort to try to help him, and obviously
it did not succeed. As he said, he was behind
in the polls for so long, and you know that
s George. Their cycles and politics, one party cannot hold
on to power, and definitely you're going to have after
a while, maybe not corruption, but maybe not the kind

(36:36):
of a grassroots appeal like you should. Another party can
come forward, has more momentum, more energy, and things change,
so you have a cyclical nature of politics. And it
works in Hungry the same way it works here. So
he had been in office a long time and the
people said, by an overwhelming margin, we want change. So
you're going to see new leadership that is more EU center,

(37:00):
more supportive of Ukraine and probably less supportive of China
and Russia, and certainly probably less supportive of Donald Trump.
And I hope they don't change their immigration policies to
go to an open border policy what we see in
so many of these European nations, because I think that
served Hungry well. But we'll see, I guess we'll have

(37:22):
to see the man who got elected was a former
member of Orbon's party.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
So yeah, he left the party because of some of
the corruption that occurred with Orbon over time. But yeah,
and I think you could argue that this is actually
an election that's in line with what happened in Argentina,
Japan and Italy. And what I mean by that is Orbon.
For example, I have a friend who is in college
as a young man in Hungary, and he knew Victor Orbon,

(37:52):
and Victor Orbon was a Communist and his father was
a leader in the Communist party, and so he said
that his friend with Putin and Jijingping is evidence that
he still has those leanings. But he also understood politically
that it made sense to sound supportive of Donald Trump.
That doesn't mean he actually was, because if you're supportive

(38:12):
of Donald Trump, you're not working with and supporting Jijingping
and Russia. But at any rate, the other thing that
frustrates me about someone like Victor Orbon, and well, all
our listeners know I'm a big supporter of Donald Trump,
but one area of mistake that he's made is that
because Victor Orbon said nice things about him, he liked

(38:35):
him and ignored some of the very clear facts that
were dangerous, and he needs to be a little more,
you know, on the uptake, Like if Putin said nice
things about him, that doesn't mean Putin's a good guy.
It just means he's playing. But at any rate. The
other thing, too, though, is right now, while the people
in the party are not necessarily anti Trump because they're
very pro American in our constitution and they like his policies,

(38:58):
I think that the average hung is angry with Donald
Trump because they felt like victor ORBN has made their
country one of the poorest countries in Europe in the
last sixteen years, and so they are upset that he
was trying to help him win election. It's like, why
would you do that to us? You know, you're supposed
to be our friend, not his. So I think they'll

(39:19):
get over that because I think as Donald Trump works
with their leaders, they'll see that he works with them
very closely well, and so I don't think it'll be
a long term they don't like Donald Trump. I think
what they'll do is just say we think he made
a political.

Speaker 7 (39:31):
Error, yeah, and we'll see. I mean, Trump can work
with anybody that'll you know, reach out and work with him.
I mean, look at the mayor of New York. I
mean he came over to the White House and they
had a cordial meeting. And that guy's a Communists. So
I would think that he's going to, you know, reach
out to the new leader and try to be supportive

(39:51):
and certainly try to have good relations. He's tried to
do that with European nations that have done nothing for us.
And look look at the or in Iran. These European
nations have done nothing, so I guess, and so many
have been critical of his policies. I mean, these are
countries that believe in open borders and they've ruined their nations.
And you know, jd Vance has made this point over

(40:13):
and over, and I think that was the area that
maybe Orbon and Trump really converge the most, and that
is a belief in national sovereignty, strong borders. Not allowing
an influx of millions of the legals and paying for
those people, you know, dilutes the language, the customs and

(40:35):
traditions of those countries. And certainly, you know we've seen it,
George here in this country for so long, and that
was one of the reasons why President Trump got elected.
So I think he found a kindred spirit there in
Orbon on that issue, and that might have led to
this close relationship. But I'm hoping that we have good
relations going forward, and I'm hoping this country is now

(40:57):
not going to just be a EU lackey and go
along with everything the EED wants, because I mean, I
do find their positions sort of progressive.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah, well, that's definitely true in terms of the EU,
that you've got nations that want to leave the EU
because of how it's kind of messing up their own
countries and stuff.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
That makes sense.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Let's take a look at what with Leo, because Pope Leo,
I think the fourteenth has made some strong comments recently
about war and peace, and that many have interpreted those
as criticism of US policy towards Iran, as if all
war is somehow evil. And I'm thinking to myself, there's
lots of An example would be David killed Goliath. Was

(41:38):
David evil for doing that? No, that was actually he
was blessed by God to be able to have that victory,
because if you look on paper, he shouldn't have been
able to beat Goliath, Right, you know, and then you
have people like Joshua, who was a prophet after Moses,
and he engaged in battles and things like that, and
yet I don't think see any criticism by God him.

(42:00):
So the point is, while war is costly and unnecessary,
war is catastrophic, the reality is if you're fighting a
war to defend your family and your nation and your
people from obliteration and just tremendous oppression, and I don't

(42:20):
think that war is evil. An example is I don't
believe that George Washington was evil for fighting the American Revolution.
But if he'd been fighting that war just to make
himself rich, just to give himself some benefits, then yeah,
that'd be very different.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
But he was not.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
You look at his presidency. He wasn't interested in benefiting himself.
He was interested in benefiting his nation and the people
and creating a tradition that would make a nation that
was great. So I just wanted to ask you what
do you think of op Leo's comments.

Speaker 7 (42:52):
It's unfortunate that we have another pope that is on
the left. We certainly had years where we were blessed
with popes that were more conservative. Pope Jean Paul the
Second and Potemedik. We were fairly conservative popes. Now we've
had two in a row that are left wing. I'm
hoping Pope Leo doesn't turn out to be as left

(43:12):
wing as Francis. He is an American, Hopefully he'll visit
here at some point and help revive the church here
that has been engulfed in scandal. I understand where he's
coming from as far as war, in line with what
Francis would have said, but I certainly understand President Trump's
point of view. I mean, he sees this as something
that is saving lives. Certainly, we fought the Nazis to

(43:35):
save lives. We fought the Japanese to save lives. We
dropped atomic bomb to us saved lives. I mean, more
would have been killed if that wouldn't have been done.
So we've made mistakes with some of these wars we've
gotten into in the past were ill advised. I think
President Trump is more clear eyed, and certainly I don't

(43:55):
think we're going to have an open ended war of
nation building here. I mean, I think he's trying to
fulfill certain specific objectives and that's why we're engaged in this.
And I think that's what he's going about doing. And
he doesn't have the support of NATO, and he certainly
doesn't have the support of the Pope unfortunately. But I

(44:17):
do think he's got a vision, and I think he
sees what needs to be done. And I think when
this is wrapped up, we'll see an improvement of our
economy and we'll be able to get people, you know,
feeling better about their economic standing, which is going to
be very important George in the midterms obviously.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Oh yeah, then you make a very good point, you know,
Like you said, there's some good conversations about the midterms
coming up, perhaps in the second segment, and of course
NATO and some other things as well. But folks, don't
go away, because the Conservative Commando is with Rick Trader
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And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative command Us
with jewishlandras and you're truly Rick Trader, coming to you
from the Mypill Studios and my Stewart Studios of the
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a guest. He's the host of Ringside Politics, which is
heard daily on WGSO nine ninety in New Orleans. And Jeff,

(48:54):
thank you for holding through that break. We appreciate your time.

Speaker 7 (48:57):
Oh Rick always a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Thanks for having me, well, we appreciate you, buddy. You
wrote an article the North Atlantic Treaty Organization NATO. Goodbye
to NATO, Hello to American First. You know, Jeff, there
we are. We are. I think we're doing the right
thing by stopping the Iranians from getting in nuclear rapping.
And by the way, Jeff, I much rather have I

(49:20):
guess price is in a nuclear bomb on an Iranian
missile over that's for sure. But do you think that
the days of the United States in NATO has passed?

Speaker 7 (49:35):
I hope so, because I think NATO has really been
free loading off of the United States for a long time.
I mean, when you look at the numbers, I mean
we're one of thirty two nations in NATO. We contribute
more than any other nation. We have been for years.
Many of these nations don't even contribute three percent of

(49:56):
their GDP on national defense. The conflicts go through on Bosnia, Kosovo, Libya, Ukraine.
We've always been very supportive of those, and those are
in urbs backyard. We've lended support, We've lended air strikes,
we've lended military logistical help. So when we needed them,

(50:19):
which is in this current conflict with Iran. They've been
a wall and they didn't even allow us to use
our bases. They didn't even allow us to have overflight.
So you know, the President's already upset with them, and
this just is the icing on the cake. So I
don't know where things go from here. But we have
a lot of troops that we have in Europe. We

(50:40):
have a lot of military bases that we support there.
You know, maybe those troops those bases who go in
areas that have greater threat in areas it would be
more appreciative, Jeff.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Not only that, the one I was most surprised about
was Great Britain. When Great Britain needed our help in
the Fuckland Islands, we were there for them, right Reagan said,
give them whatever they needed, and it certainly has not
been reciprocated by Great Britain. But overall, when you say
that we have our bases there, they wouldn't eat and

(51:12):
let us choose our own bases. We got eighty four
thousand troops there. Does the fact that we have eighty
four thousand troops there add to the economies of these
countries beyond what we're paying into NATO. The sixteen percent
of the overall NATO budget.

Speaker 7 (51:32):
Yes, those people definitely do add to their economies. And
here's what also, we've been able to allow them by
providing for their military defense. By taking care of these countries,
we have allowed them to develop social welfare states. We
have allowed them to scamp on defense spending and provide

(51:52):
cradle to grave socialism for their citizens. So when I hear, oh, well,
they've got great healthcare in certain of these countries, I'm thinking, well,
of course we're paying for that, because we're paying for
they're a military defense. They're not providing for their own citizens. Instead,
they're spending their money on domestic programs and more government services.

(52:13):
So yeah, I think they've been taking advantage US and
on trade and on so many other issues for a
long time. We don't we're not in alignment with these
countries on cultural issues, on border issues. They believe in censorship, Rick,
So these countries are very left wing, and that's that's

(52:33):
really not in line with the direction that we're going
to continue going.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Hopefully you're opinion on a couple of things. Do you
think that NATO's lack of support and help to us
has come because Donald Trump is a precedent and or
Donald Trump wants Greenland.

Speaker 7 (52:52):
I think both of those answers are yes. I don't
think there's any love loss between some of these leaders.
Keir Starmer, I don't think exactly on President Trump's Christmas
card list, I don't think. You know, the leader of
Spain hates he's a socialist, he hates Trump certainly. You
know the German Chancellor has muted in sort of his comments,

(53:16):
but there's not a close bond there. And yeah, the
President believes that that Greenland is important for two reasons,
mainly one for our Golden Dome, which we need to
protect our citizens. We've got to have a missile defense program.
Ronald Reagan knew that in the eighties. Now we've got
the technology to do it, but we need Greenland. And
then rare earth deposits. Greenland has plentiful rare earth deposits.

(53:41):
And you know, right now we're dependent on China. We
don't want to be in any way dependent on China.
So that would negate that dependency and would help our defenses.
And of course Denmark has been quote unquote managing operating
Greenland for years, but I don't think they've been doing
a very good job.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Well, Greenland has about fifty seven thousand people there. I
don't know what the connection is to Denmark in the
first place, but I wanted to ask you. You know,
when we talk about NATO, we talk about their alliance
to the United States. They're also forgetting that the fact

(54:22):
that the United States took part in two major world wars,
that there is even an a Europe today.

Speaker 7 (54:30):
And let's not forget something called the Marshall Plan. So
we paid for the rebuilding of Europe. We helped liberate
Europe into world wars, and hundreds of thousands of our
American heroes died. And then, of course we paid for
the reconstruction of Europe through the Marshall Plan. We established

(54:52):
these organizations called the UN and NATO to help protect them.
We put missiles in their content trees where we waved
the occult war against the Soviet Union. Because of Reagan's
leadership and the fact that we spent so much money
in our defense, we bankrupted the Soviet Union. They the
evil Empire died, liberating all these Eastern European countries. It

(55:14):
would have been under the communist dictatorship if not for
the US. So We've done a tremendous amount for Europe,
and I just don't think the appreciation is there for
what the United States has done and is doing. And
a divorce could be coming Rick.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
With that, would the remarriage be would it be more
to our allies that now appeared to be in the
Middle East?

Speaker 7 (55:40):
I mean, isn't that interesting? We do seem to have
Middle Eastern allies. Now these are countries. We had countries
that say that signed the Abraham Accords. We've had countries
that have helped us with Iran. We have countries where
we have our bases over there where we're working with.
We also have, you know, allies maybe in other parts

(56:01):
of the world as well that we can establish ven
As weel as our new good friend. So we've got
hopefully we'll establish a good close friendship with Cuba, so
many other places we can look around for friends. Europe
is where historically the emphasis has been. But I say
there's a whole big world out there where we can
find friends that are better friends for the United States.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Hey, Jeff, before I let you go, I gotta ask
you about Eric Shechlawill. He now has suspended his campaign
in California to run for governor. Allegations are coming out
left and right about how he is a sexual predator.
And I just wanted, in wrapping up this interview with you,
wanted to give you an opportunity to come in on Eric.

Speaker 7 (56:47):
Well, he was a guy who pointed fingers at President Trump.
He was on his high horse, you know, talking about
immorality and corruption. And now we see what he's been
all about for years. So I think they're gonna try
to boot him from Congress. I think the Democrats are
embarrassed by him. Now you've had four women come forward.
Who knows there could be more. Rike These are serious charges.

(57:09):
These aren't trivial charges, They're very serious. So I would
say he's probably his days are numbered as a member
of Congress.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Well, he said he's pulling out. And by the way,
I say to people in California all the time, because
you know, we broadcast into California, We've got ten television
stations out there. Eric. If Perk's wife and family couldn't
trust him, how can the people of California?

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Right?

Speaker 7 (57:37):
I mean, I know what what if there are two
Republicans in the runoff the governor of California wouldn't that
be fantastic?

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Rick, Well, when is that in early June that primary
takes place? So I don't know, Jeff, I don't trust
Democrats not throw another surprise candidate in there. I don't
know who it would be, but I would not be
surprised that if the if the two Republicans that are

(58:06):
now as the top of that race does soon have
another Democrat candidate thrown in there, Democrats.

Speaker 7 (58:15):
Doing not the leading Democrat as Katie Porter, woman is
abusive toward her staff, she's she's angry, she yells and screams.
She's just a vile person. So she's no champion. I mean,
so they really have a lack of good quality candidates, right.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Jerry Brown is she's still alive. Maybe they'll they him up.

Speaker 7 (58:40):
Maybe how about Willie Brown? He's I think he's still alive.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Oh, I don't know. Maybe Carmela wear him out. What
about Kamala Harris? Do you think she could possibly have
any kind of a part in the selection.

Speaker 7 (58:54):
You know, if she would have run for governor, she'd
probably be the leading candidate for governor. But she wants
to run again for president, Yes she does.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
But look, you know in in twenty twenty four, with
about three months before the election. Three she threw herself in.
I mean she's good at throwing herself in elections when
the leading Democrat is it is evil, feeble or wrapped
up in a scandal.

Speaker 8 (59:22):
Right, yeah, who knows.

Speaker 7 (59:24):
Maybe she'll be a rite in. But she wants to
be president. She told Al Sharpton the other day she
was thinking about running. So count on her to be
a presidential candidate again. And that's the best thing got
is Republicans.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Bring her on, bring her up up, Jeff Carwaer, Before
we let you go, I want you to tell already
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Listen to your show, get your book, give us all
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Thank you, Rick and George appreciate you all very much.
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Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Check it out, Rick, as I do, as you know
from time to time. This Rick from New Jersey calls
your show and as it loves part.

Speaker 7 (01:00:21):
You know, there are a couple of of my favorite callers.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
There are two or three shows that I radio shows.
I'd love to listen to yours, this one, ox Ox
News another, But I always always enjoy finding out what's
on the minds of the people down there in the Lituisiana. Again, Jeff,
thanks for joining his take care and God bless you
and you are listening to and watching the Conservative Commandos

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Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
And we thank you for staying with this. This is
the Conservative Mendez Radio Show with George Landreth and you're
Shirley Rick Drader coming to you from the My Pillas
studios and My Store studios of the aun TV network. Hey, George,
Americans went back to the Moon and I know there
was no individual more thrilled about that than our next guest.

(01:04:20):
And George, please make that introduction.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Absolutely, we always have the very best guests on TV
and radio, and we have Art Harmon here to prove it.
He is the president of the Coalition to Save Man
Space Exploration. He was also a legislative director and foreign
policy advisor for Congressman Stockman from Texas, and he wrote

(01:04:43):
space policy for the Trump campaign and he continues to
advise the White House in Congress on key issues and
I'm sure space is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
One of those.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
So anyhow, welcome, We're very glad to have you Art.
Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 13 (01:04:58):
Oh, it's always a great pleasure to be on with
you all. And yes, we're back in space, and we're
back in space to stay. With the launch of Artemis
on April first, we set a lot of records. We did,
the went the furthest from Earth that we've ever gone.

(01:05:22):
We saw an eclipse using the Earth as the way
to eclipse the Sun, which is this absolutely spectacular. It's
a lovely image out there of the Earth blocking the
Sun with just a little teeny rim of the Sun

(01:05:43):
around it, and it's lit forward, lit by the light
reflecting off of the Moon, so you can see continents.
I think Australia is on there, and you can see
the aurora and you can see the lights of the city.
It's a historic photograph.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Oh yeah, there's a lot of amazing photographs there. And
of course I think that today we can celebrate a
major milestone in America's return to deep space exploration and
NASA's Artismus mission has just completed this flight around the Moon,
and like you said, the farthest we've ever gone, and
so pretty interesting because it's been like a half century

(01:06:24):
now since we've been close to the Moon. And it
wasn't just a technical demonstration, it was also a statement
that the United States is serious about leading the next
era of exploration, innovation and scientific discovery. And the mission
tested critical systems, proved new capabilities, and brought us one

(01:06:44):
step closer to putting astronauts back on the lunar's surface
and eventually pushing us towards Mars, which is even further away.
But anyhow to help us break down what all this means,
why it matters what comes next, I'm very glad that
we have the President of the Coalition to save manned

(01:07:07):
space exploration. From your perspective, what's the single most important
achievement of the Artemis flight.

Speaker 8 (01:07:14):
Success? Because this is the.

Speaker 13 (01:07:20):
Shakedown cruise, if you will, for this generation, using this
generation of rockets, the Artemis of the space launch system rockets.
And three years ago, may remember Artemis one. It had
nobody on it, It was unmanned, and it went around
the Moon and spent about twenty days total going around

(01:07:42):
the Moon and to and from Earth, validating that the
rocket works, the capsule works, and so forth. Now we
put humans on board, three Americans, one Canadian astronauts, so
now we're testing out even more the life support and everything.

Speaker 8 (01:08:00):
We also.

Speaker 13 (01:08:02):
Ran into a little bit of a problem on Artemis
one and that was the heat shield that protects the
astronauts from the five thousand degree heat of reentry. It
had some damage. Now, we've been using heat shields for
ever since the very very first man in space, and

(01:08:26):
so that that cushions you. It blocks the heat from
getting into the spacecraft and melting it.

Speaker 8 (01:08:35):
So there was some damage and that.

Speaker 13 (01:08:37):
Was of concern. It was of concerned everybody. But here's
you know, for every problem, there's sometimes a solution. In
this case, they used a sort of a little skip
maneuver to go dip into the atmosphere and.

Speaker 8 (01:08:54):
Out bleeding off some speed. So it's going to do
the re entry slower. What you might.

Speaker 13 (01:09:02):
Compare it to is if you're going sixty miles an
hour and you're going to come to a stop, well
maybe you want to just gently get down to forty
miles an hour before you really put on the brakes
to stop at the light.

Speaker 8 (01:09:15):
So it's that kind of thing.

Speaker 13 (01:09:17):
You're reducing the stress on the heat shield.

Speaker 8 (01:09:20):
And it worked beautifully.

Speaker 13 (01:09:21):
Astronauts are home and the President welcomed them back and
so forth.

Speaker 8 (01:09:27):
Fantastic success.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Absolutely. Well, how do you think this mission changes the
trajectory of America's human spaceflight program.

Speaker 13 (01:09:39):
Well, thanks to Jared Isaacman getting more launches per year
about ten months now instead of like three years as
they had been planning under Biden, which had one launch

(01:09:59):
during his term. But this kicks it off. So here's
what's going to happen next year. Next year midyear, they're
going to send up Artemis three. It's going to go
into Earth orbit and it's going to dock with the
lunar Landers. Now I'm saying that plural because both SpaceX

(01:10:23):
and Blue Origin both have their versions of Landers one.
The Starship one from SpaceX is huge, about one hundred
and fifty feet.

Speaker 8 (01:10:34):
Tall and so forth.

Speaker 13 (01:10:36):
The Blue Origin one looks a little bit more like
the original Apollo Lander. It's a little taller than that,
but the concept is the same and you'll get you know,
three or four astronauts down to the surface. But the spaceship,
the Starship one, is capable of delivering one hundred tons

(01:10:58):
to the surface. The long term plans are that we're
going to build a base on the Moon to stay,
and so then you're going to want Starship or other
spacecraft by other makers to be able to deliver there's
one hundred tons at a time to the Moon, so
you can build a something the size of the space

(01:11:21):
station on the Moon. You can have rovers and other vehicles,
you can set up a nuclear reactor because once you're
on the surface of the Moon, you're going to have
a two week day and a two week night, so
you can't run everything only on solar So the NASA

(01:11:42):
is starting to look to building the nuclear reactors will need.
So this is a great leap forwards and to copy
Neil Armstrong, and it indeed does presage going to Mars
in the twenty thirties.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Yeah, So what are some of the systems and technologies
that we test on this flight that are essential for
future lunar landings or even landings on Mars.

Speaker 8 (01:12:10):
Well a lot of things.

Speaker 13 (01:12:12):
Number one is the life support. Now they had a
little trouble with the toilet. Is actually the first time
in a capsule that there's been a NASA capsule that
there's been a toilet, although they did put one in
a Dragon Crew capsule. So it's kind of crude, but
it works. But the Christina Kotch, the female NASA astronauts,

(01:12:38):
she was able to repair it when there was an
issue with it, so there's all the elements of life support,
but then it's the propulsion to get you up there flawlessly.

Speaker 8 (01:12:52):
And now we've got two successes there the.

Speaker 13 (01:12:55):
Heat shields that they'll remedy the heat shields for the
next mission, but we know that what they did do
worked to get our astronauts back safely and without any concerns.

Speaker 8 (01:13:10):
And yeah, going.

Speaker 13 (01:13:11):
Forwards with next year, all these same systems are going
to be working and tested with the addition of the landers.

Speaker 5 (01:13:23):
Very good.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
So how do you think this mission strengthens America's leadership
in space at a time when other nations are expanding
their own space ambitions and perhaps and even lunar ambitions.

Speaker 8 (01:13:38):
Well, that's a very good question.

Speaker 13 (01:13:39):
And actually has an interviewed on Indian TV the other day,
and they're excited about their own space ambitions. They're building
their own manned rocket and will probably within two three
four years put their own astronauts in orbit. And I
express that I hope they'll be one of the international

(01:14:01):
partners we have going to the Moon and eventually Mars.
But the strategic competition is with China. Now China has declared,
they've openly stated that they view outer space the Moon
and Mars the same way. They do this the South
China Sea, and they said it in so many words.
They had their lunar program and it's no secret there.

(01:14:24):
They've talked about vertical sovereignty for decades, where they pretend
to claim the ownership of orbital space. So we are
in a space race, unlike the race with the Soviets,
where is more prestige. And you know, if the Soviets

(01:14:45):
had one, which they didn't because their kind of system,
you know, crushes creativity and they weren't able to beat us,
but it would have been prestige. Today it's about keep
space access to the Moon and eventually Mars open for

(01:15:07):
the free world and for commercial space. So we are
we're right now. We're a bit ahead of China, but
they're coming on strong. Just a couple of months ago
they did an amazing launch of space of their moon rocket.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Part of it.

Speaker 13 (01:15:28):
Their moon rocket is basically a carbon copy of a
Falcon nine. They're gonna have two of them and send
one up with the astronauts and one up with the
lander and then they'll meet. So they tested just the
central core of the three core rocket. They sent it
up on a suborbital pass, so you know, maybe fifty

(01:15:52):
sixty miles up. They blew off the capsule to test
that they could do that and recovered that. They then
landed that core because remember it's a counterfeit dragon or
a Falcon rocket. They landed that in the sea very successfully.
They've tested their lunar lander on this rig where they suspended,

(01:16:16):
counterbalancing all but a six of its weight and testing
it going up and down ascent and descent. So they're
working very hard. They have an unlimited budget and they
have an appetite to beat us.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Well, that's a good place for us to take a
quick break. The folks don't go away because the Conservative
commandos with Rick Trader and George Landruff and of course
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Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commanders with George
Landrith and I'moric Trader coming to you from the my
Pillar studios and my store studios of the a U
N TV Network. Art Harmon is a guess, he's say,
a great friend of my personally and of the server
to Commanders and the AU and TV network. Art is

(01:21:04):
the creator of the Committee the Coalition to Save Manned
Space Exploration. Arts also worked on Capitol Hill. He's been
an advisor to the Trump administration in particular on space affairs.
And Art, thank you for holding through that big break.
We appreciate your time, buddy.

Speaker 13 (01:21:26):
Oh oh, it's such a pleasure to be on with
you and to relate a bit about our space program.

Speaker 8 (01:21:31):
It's like we're back now.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
All right, Well let's go to oh what was it
about ten days ago at Kennedy Space Center? You were there, Art,
I've been to several Shuttle missions and I was always
amazed how when the Shuttle launched, when it lit up,
the feeling that went right through you. I mean the

(01:21:54):
physical feeling that the power of the vibration, the energy.
I was I would have loved to have seen an
Apollo launch. I don't know if you ever saw one
or not, But would you talk about the where you
were at the launch and the feeling that the physical

(01:22:15):
feeling that went through you.

Speaker 13 (01:22:18):
Well, like you, I've been to shut launches. I've been
to other launches. Regretfully, I didn't go to an Apollo
launch that that would it would have really been awesome.
I was watching it though, for probably eleven and others
as a little kid. But yeah, it is an electric feeling. Now,
I was about three point four miles, which is about

(01:22:39):
this closest that any humans are allowed for safety reasons
and basically parallel with the Was.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
That the press area? Yes, yeah, okay, because that's where
I saw my Shuttle launches from. It was either at
the press area or the family area and are I
can remember one of the launches. Just before the launch,
they were in a slight holt and they asked one
of the astronauts, are you ready to go? And he says, yeah, sure,

(01:23:11):
and the guy the control says, we'll get ready. You're
in for the right of your life. You know, I
can't imagine what it would be like to be on
top of that thing and actually be heading to the moon.

Speaker 13 (01:23:28):
Well, you know, I've talked to a number of astronauts,
and I've asked them that kind of question. I'll ask
two questions that always get a fascinating response. One is, yeah,
you're sitting on top of that rocket and all of
a sudden the engines fire. What's going through your mind?
And those who are commanding the space craft, almost invariably

(01:23:52):
it's I was too busy with my checklist to.

Speaker 8 (01:23:57):
Really think.

Speaker 13 (01:23:59):
Because that's what they're doing, and they've practiced these things
every day and day out, so they know it's stone cold,
every switch, every second of the countdown, and so forth.

Speaker 8 (01:24:13):
They know all that.

Speaker 13 (01:24:15):
But some of the other is the mission specialists who
are there for the ride because they're going to go up, say,
to the space station and conduct experiments. They'll have a
bit of time to think about what's happening. Some of
them are scared, but mostly they're excited. But then the
other question I ask is, Okay, the rocket's just cut off,

(01:24:37):
you're in orbit, you're weightless, you take off your seat belts,
tell me what you're feeling. And even the most sort
of hard boiled mission commander, they all get this big
broad grin because it's just out of this world. And
I've done some indoor sky diving kind of float like

(01:25:01):
a bird and the stuff. I have a teeny taste
of it. But when you're up there and then you
look out the window, you know, there's nothing like it
in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
Right, Absolutely incredible. Speaking of the crew, Senator Mark Kelly
said the other day talking about the makeup of the crew,
you had one Canadian, you had a woman, you had
a black. And he was talking about the makeup of
the crew and he says, if there was seven white astronauts,

(01:25:30):
you know, white astronauts, Navy pilots, that this this mission
would have been a disaster. Why because I don't know.
He seems to think that women and blacks and Canadians
think differently than a Navy pilot that would be on
that mission. I wanted to get your opinion of this

(01:25:51):
statement coming from former astronaut US Senator Mark Kelly.

Speaker 8 (01:25:56):
Well, it's sad.

Speaker 13 (01:25:57):
I mean, he's running for president and and I think
he'll go pretty far in in the primaries. If you've
got astronaut by your by your name, then then you
are a uh uh. You know, I've got a huge advantage.
And that's why he was able to get elected to
the Senate and re elect and so forth. Uh So,

(01:26:17):
shame on on him for saying that, But he's just
trying to stir up the Democrat base, which uh, which.

Speaker 8 (01:26:26):
Which responds to that. But NASA is.

Speaker 13 (01:26:31):
Uh is so meticulous about who they select as astronauts,
and they have to be. You know, our early astronauts
were mostly like fighter pilots, often in wartime. So if
you're being shot at and you can and you survive,

(01:26:53):
that is shows your ability to focus without any distract.
It's like, Okay, I'm losing half my wing. I'm going
to get back or I'm going to eject. That's what
we needed for the early space program, and we still
look for those qualities, even though it's not quite as

(01:27:14):
rigorous the uh you know it it's and there's a
lot more automation on the spacecraft.

Speaker 8 (01:27:21):
You still want those qualities.

Speaker 13 (01:27:23):
And so when NASA picks a new class of astronautsy
you can be sure that I would trust any one
of them to with with my life.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
All right, Well, let's talk about what's next for the
Artemis Utumist three coming up. He says that it's kind
going Earth's orbits are going to practice stocking. Why is
that necessary art, I mean, we we've done this stocking
with the Apollo missions. Why is it important to redo
these steps on the way to way back to the Moon.

Speaker 13 (01:27:56):
Well safety, Now, we originally were not going to under
the Biden planner is going to skip directly to from
this mission to ourtemis three landing on the Moon. But
really you do need an intermediate step now that There's
a key reason, and that is it's very different from Apollo.

(01:28:17):
If SpaceX is ready, they've got this huge, huge spacecraft
that makes the Orion capsule will look like you know,
you know, an insect crawling on a log. So the
docking is going to be very different, and it's best
to practice it out in space where you can have

(01:28:40):
multiple tries and you can even say this isn't working,
We've got to change this or that, and you can
have another go at it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
Then.

Speaker 13 (01:28:49):
Also, we've got two different landers. We've got the SpaceX
and we've got the Blue Origin and so the you know,
the docking maneuvers with each of those, and it's possible
that there will be some missions in the future using
SpaceX and some using Blue Origin. So getting that in

(01:29:10):
orbit on orbit practice that. That's a very high safety point.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
All right, let's talk about the Chinese. Eve and George
for talking about the Chinese. It is predicted right now
that we're going to beat the Chinese back or get
to the moon again before the Chinese. Do you think
that there's a chance that Chinese may beat us?

Speaker 5 (01:29:36):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (01:29:36):
Yeah, they have an imperative to beat us and then
say you haven't been here in fifty some years.

Speaker 8 (01:29:43):
It's ours now.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
Well by us setting up the plan, all right, we
have Artemis two, we went around the moon, Artemis three
is going to go around yours and practice talking. Artemis
four be going back to the moon. We've even set
a date for that. Do you think that that was
a mistake because that gave us, that gave the Chinese
a date of which they had to beat us.

Speaker 13 (01:30:07):
No. No, they have their own timelines and from the
tests I've seen that they could well launch their version
of Artemis ie later this year, and they could do
their version of Artemis two later this year as well,
because they have an unlimited budget, so they you know,

(01:30:29):
there's no political opposition, there's no got to run this through.

Speaker 8 (01:30:34):
Congress or whatever.

Speaker 13 (01:30:36):
So if they can, they will try to beat us.
Now it is sort of a you know, a good
horse race. They can have failures, We can have failures.
They can have delays, just as we have had delays.
So it's by no means certain which side will win.

(01:30:59):
But to uh, to land on the Moon and say okay,
we are here, that just helps prevent China's worst instincts
by saying, okay, we're in the South Pole, this area,
and even under the Outer Space Treaty, it's generally accepted
that you can stick out an area of you know,

(01:31:21):
where you're working. Uh, And so they would just do
that and they say, oh, yeah, South Pole, which is
where the water ice is. You see, you got these
craters that the sun never hits the bottom of and
they and they're under eons of time comets made of
ice have crashed in. So that's where we will be

(01:31:43):
able to mine, uh, the water, ice, water to drink
of course, oxygen to breathe, oxygen and hydrogen for rocket
fuel and chemical processes. So that that's going to be
a big, big area for for humanity. And we just
wanted to make you know Chinese can be there too,

(01:32:05):
and they will.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
But as you said, Art with George you know, they
look at controlling things the way they look at controlling
in the South Chinese Sea. You know they're gonna they
what's to stop them from saying the moon is ours?
Keep out nothing?

Speaker 13 (01:32:22):
But and I think they actually did that with Obama.
You know, you go back to twenty ten, which is
really when I got heavily involved in space policy. Uh,
and Obama killed the return to the Moon and basically
our space exploration program. Yeah, we had the space station.

(01:32:43):
I think he would have loved to have canceled that too,
because it's American exceptionalism. But I think it's possible that
China said, yeah, the moon is ours, you can have
the Moon, you can have Mars, and he probably bowed
to them. Now you can imagine if they tried that
with Trump, there would be a bunch of four letter

(01:33:04):
words and we would do it anyway and dare them
to respond.

Speaker 4 (01:33:11):
You know that.

Speaker 13 (01:33:12):
You know, you don't need guns on the moon to
state that. All you need to do is say you
want to warrant Taiwan don't go to the moon. You
want rare earth minerals, don't go to the moon, or
don't go to the South Pole.

Speaker 8 (01:33:24):
We're going to own that.

Speaker 13 (01:33:26):
So we got to get there and make a name
for ourselves. And then in the in the second landing
in late twenty eight, that's where we're going to lay
down elements for a permanent base, kind of like the
space station.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
Kind of luck what goes on in the South PAULA, Yeah,
very similar. Hey, art, how you talk about the Chinese
are using the Falcon nine rocket, I mean, how do
they get how'd they get a hold of that technology?

Speaker 13 (01:33:59):
Partly, I'm sure that they've you know, gotten their spies
into the organization, you know, one thing.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
And by the way, also explain, I know we're getting
short on time. How did the how does the Falcon
nine system work? Differently from the art of the system?

Speaker 13 (01:34:18):
Well, Artemis is expendable and just as like Apollo goes
up and the stage is crashed down into the sea
and can't be reused, the capsule itself will be reused.

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:34:29):
But Falcon is an all reusable system.

Speaker 13 (01:34:34):
Some of the their their their rockets have been launched
about thirty times, so it's getting to be sort of
like an air airline instead of throwing away your airplane.

Speaker 8 (01:34:44):
Each time you cross the Atlantic.

Speaker 4 (01:34:46):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (01:34:47):
And by the way, people can follow me on Savemanned
Space dot com and Save Manned Space on on social media.
Uh but uh uh, So you know, here's a vision
I want to paint for everybody in ten to twenty years.

Speaker 8 (01:35:07):
Well, let's call it fifteen.

Speaker 13 (01:35:09):
For the price of a luxury cruise, you're going to
be able to go into orbit and look down on
Earth and look out at the stars from above, and
for maybe two or three times that you will be
able to go to the Moon and land and put
your bootstep there, just like any armstrong.

Speaker 1 (01:35:31):
Aren't you talked about political opposition, Well, let's talk about
political opposition here in this country to the Artemis program.
And also how can NASA hold the public's attention? After
Apollo they had at six missions that landed on Moon successfully.

(01:35:51):
They had Apoll of thirteen that didn't. But after that
the publics got tired of it. They didn't even watch anymore.
So Also, Congress, Congress, is why are we going up there?
We need to keep that money here on Earth. We
need to end poverty, we need to educate our children.
So when you talk about the political opposition holding people's attention,

(01:36:14):
how do you do that.

Speaker 13 (01:36:17):
By continuing to do bold things? And the plan was
not to stop at Apollo seventeenth or twenty or anything
like that. But Verna von Braun, the architect of the
lunar program. His goal was to build a base on
the Moon in the nineteen seventies and then go to

(01:36:39):
Mars in the nineteen eighties. And then we would now
have if that had continued basis on both.

Speaker 8 (01:36:48):
You know, little kids would look up at the Moon
and say, Mommy, Daddy, there's lights on the moon. There's
people there.

Speaker 13 (01:36:54):
So as long as we do big, bold things will
remain interested.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
But you're right.

Speaker 13 (01:37:02):
In the seventies then the all the politicians wanted to
raid all that money for their welfare programs and so forth.

Speaker 8 (01:37:11):
And Nixon was not you know, he didn't have the
vision that JFK did.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
So President that is the Well, let's just hope our
next president as vision the way Donald Trump has. Hey, Art,
before you go, please tell your audience how they could
follow you, how they could find out more about the
coalitions to save manned space exploration.

Speaker 13 (01:37:32):
Well, thanks so much, always a pleasure, savemanned space dot
com and save manned space on X and Facebook. I
update the x as just as much and you can
find out more about my political work at the Conservative
Caucus dot org.

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
Art harmon again, thank you so much for joining us.
Take care and God.

Speaker 8 (01:37:53):
Bless always pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
And this is the Conservative Commanders with George and Rick
and go go wait Georgian, I'll be back cooks more
news and commentary right after this break.

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Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos with
George Landers and I'mrick Trader, coming to you from the
Michela Studios and my Storage Studios of the aun TV network.
I want to thank our guests today Jeff Career from
Ringside Politics, also Art Harmon from the Coalition to Save
Man's Space Explorations, George too Minute, THINKNY Time, buddy, what

(01:41:27):
do you got for us?

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
Well, Gavin Newsom just asked for another one hundred and
twenty six billion dollars for California's high speed rail projects.
To put that in perspective, the original estimate in two
thousand and eight for the entire project was only thirty
three billion, but now the projected total costs has ballooned
to well over two hundred billion, and they still, despite

(01:41:52):
all the money they've spent, have not built a single
mile of usable track between Los Angeles and San Francisco.
So it's just kind of like this isn't cost overruns.
This is basically a tax funded disaster. Millions have already
been spent, but nothing's been done. And there's a history here.

(01:42:12):
For example, California spends the highest amount on homelessness, and
yet it has the highest rate of homelessness in America
and it's grown as it quote spends more, which tells
you they're not actually doing anything to fix homelessness. They're
simply stealing money from taxpayers and they likewise are hemorrhaging

(01:42:33):
residents and businesses who just because of the crushing taxes
and failing services, are escaping and deciding to vote with
their feet to get the heck out. But it's interesting
because Gavin Newsom's proposed solution to every failure of his
is to ask for more money.

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
Yeah, well that's the Democrat mantra. You know, George, I
saw a thing today on Facebook talking about this high
speed training in California. So far they they spent how
much have they spent on it so far?

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
George, I'm not sure. I think they've spent probably close
to seventy five to eighty billion dollars, okay, And they
compared it to you many times what the original estimate was,
and now they're asking for another one hundred and twenty
six billion.

Speaker 1 (01:43:16):
Right, So they compared it to the Artemis mission, all right,
where the Artemis mission costs about three million dollars and
went almost seven hundred thousand miles. The bullet train has
not gone a single mile yet. The number of parent
passengers Artemis carried was four. The bullet train has carried

(01:43:39):
a zero number of passengers. And that's goment. That's big government.
That's liberal government. Just throw money at something just after all,
we've got a lot of it, because those suckers, those taxpayers,
well they've been thrown in the hot in the cold
water already. We turned out the heat higher than anyway

(01:44:00):
could ever expect, and they're not screaming yet. So we're
just going to keep on spending money for these stupid
programs that a lot of them are unnecessary, a lot
of them don't work. So there you go, beautiful, beautiful George.
That book of yours, tell us a little bit about it?

Speaker 2 (01:44:20):
Oh, sure, here it is. Let freedom ring again? Can
self evident truths save America from further decline? And hopefully
that gives people a hint that the book is about
the compelling exploration of our founding principles, the wisdom of

(01:44:42):
our constitution, and the self evident truth is that fueled
our nation's rise to greatness, because there was a time
when we were thirteen insignificant colonies and then we rapidly
rose to becoming a international military, economic, culture, role, and
innovative superpower. And I would argue that's because of the

(01:45:05):
principles and the constitution, because freedom and opportunity to do
a great deal to promote growth. And so this year,
as we hit the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary in
July fourth and twenty twenty six, I think that there's
lots of reasons to celebrate our nation's founding and the
founding truths that were declared in seventeen seventy six. And

(01:45:26):
it's a good time for us now to revisit what
made America exceptional and how we can preserve it. And yeah,
that's what this book is about, and I hope people
enjoy it. An example would be Senator Paul said, let
Freedom Ring again challenges us to renew our commitment to
the ideals of our founding fathers and actively preserve the

(01:45:48):
freedoms that make America a beacon of hope and opportunity.
I thought to myself, I really appreciate that, because that's
kind of why I wrote the book. Evidently, when he
read it, he totally grasped what my purpose was.

Speaker 1 (01:46:04):
You know, George, you meant you used a term thirteen
insignificant colonies, and those thirteen insignificant colonies have led to
this wonderful country who can put people on the moon
around the moon, and very shortly sending them on to
mars Well talking about it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
If you had told people in seventeen seventy six the
America would save Europe from fascism and then it would
save Europe from communism in terms of the Russian threat
and things like that, and that it would be the
world's economic and military superpower, people laughed at you and
said you were crazy. And yet guess what, that's what

(01:46:49):
our founders started and what they helped create. And so yeah,
I think it's an amazing thing.

Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
Indeed, Hey, George again, I want to thank you so
much for sitting and as my coast. But for right
now we are out of time. That means we get
to run. We got to go take care of Godless
and we'll see it tomorrow. That's going to be on
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