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4-17-26 Conservative Commandos: Erika Kirk Ditches TPUSA Event Last Minute – JD Vance Explains Why

Vice President JD Vance stood before a crowd of young conservatives at the University of Georgia on Tuesday, but the person who was supposed to be beside him was nowhere to be found.  Erika Kirk, the CEO of Turning Point USA, did not attend the event after receiving what those close to her described as serious threats against her safety.  Turning Point USA spokesperson Andrew Kolvet took the stage in her place, wasting no time in explaining the situation to the crowd gathered for the nonprofit’s tour designed to fire up young conservative voters ahead of the midterm elections.  “I’m going to address it right at the front, Mr. Vice President, I’m on stage here instead of our friend Erika Kirk because unfortunately she has received some very serious threats in her direction,” Kolvet told the audience.  “It’s a terrible reflection on the state of reality and the state of the country,” he added.
Vance confirmed that Kirk had personally contacted him before the event to discuss the threats, and the situation nearly derailed the rally entirely.  “I love Erika, and I know that she did get some threats,” Vance said. “About two hours ago… I was a little worried that we were going to have to cancel the event because Erika was not going to come, and she was very worried about it.”  Vance consulted with the Secret Service before ultimately deciding to move forward with the event. No details about the specific nature of the threats have been publicly disclosed. The Daily Mail reached out to the White House seeking comment.
Kirk’s rise to the top of Turning Point USA came under devastating circumstances. Her husband, Charlie Kirk, was assassinated on September 10 at Utah Valley University while engaging with students on campus. Erika stepped into the CEO role in the immediate aftermath of his death.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome everybody, and welcome Phillip Patriots, Welcome to all the plurbals,
Welcome all of you, Drakes and society, rock Weller, sick
of fans, stickers, make a Nazi, some of fogs and
the pholbes. The left doesn't like you. We love you.
We think of you as friends, Alice and patriots, and
by whoever you are, you always welcome here and this
place is the Conservative Commander's radio show, and I'm Rick

(00:31):
Drader coming to you from the my Pillar studios and
my Store studios of the au N TV network. And
joining me once again from Nevada is Sharon Engel. And
Sharon welcome back, Welcome back to Conservative Commandos.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Rick.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
It's great to be here always. And speaking of being here,
President Trump is going to be here in Las Vegas
to talk about no Tracks on Tips, So at some
point I'll be over there watching him do what he
does best, which is rally the crowd and get them

(01:10):
to think about what happens next, especially in these midterms.
So that's event coming up here in Las Vegas actually
is where it's going to be taking taking place at
the tip capital of the world.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
If you think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Just about everybody here in Las Vegas does tips. And actually,
when I was working in a profession, I guess it's
a profession. I was a server at Bob's Big Boy,

(01:49):
and that's the way I put myself through college. My
tips often were as much as my paycheck, and I
was able then to have cash on hand and also
put my paycheck in the bank. So it was it
was good to have those tips, but there was a tax.

(02:10):
They we were always on the lookout for i RS
guys that were a little boared that day, and they
would stop you on the way out at the end
of your ship, make you empty your pockets well and
so that they could count the tips, and then they
would look and see what you were declaring, and well,

(02:30):
you know, see if it if it kind of matched,
or if you were if you were kind of skimming
off the top, I guess. And so it was always
one of those things where you didn't know when they
would come looking for your your declaration if it was right,
because it surely is. On the honor system. You declare

(02:52):
how you making tips, and there's no way, really too
for the I r s to go back and find
out if you're declaring the right amount or not right,
it's in your pocket. Somebody hands you cash, it's in
your pocket, and you walk out the back door with
your pockets full of cash. One of the ladies that

(03:14):
I worked with at the time said, put it all
in your purse. They can't tell what you brought to
work with you and what you made at work. So
you know, always game in the system, right, They figure
out a way to find out if you're declaring everything,
and then on the other side, people figure out how

(03:35):
to keep from declaring everything. So it's just a big
game when it goes to comes to those tips. Like
I said, it's kind of on the honor system. So
when Resident Trump says no tax on tips, there is
a huge segment of our society that says, finally, somebody's
thinking properly about this, because I usually someone who gets

(04:00):
tips is working for minimum wage. And the reason that
they're willing to work for minimum wage is because they
can supplement with these tips. And it's just a matter
of what kind of service they are giving. So if
you're a nice, friendly person, you make more tips in
that when it's crotchety, and if you deliver on time

(04:22):
and the order is accurate. You make more tips than
the person that's kind of lack a daisicle about their jobs.
So anyway, it's one of those things where when he
said no tax on tips, it resonated. Well, he's back
to doing that again. He's here in Las Vegas to

(04:45):
promote that very thing, no tax on tips, because he
knows like the rest of us do that we're kind
of the capital of the world here. But the other
thing is that they did a.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Oh, slow up, slow down. I was just.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Gonna I was just going to conclude with this promotional
moment that they did with door dash and uh that yeah. Yeah,
when they did the door dash thing, Uh, the liberals
went not because it went viral. I mean it should.
Everybody works for tips that it should go viral. So

(05:27):
now I'll let you.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
That door dish thing where they where a lady showed
up at the at the the West wing of the
White House with bags from McDonald's. I did see that.
You're kind of anything you delivered to the White House
and you get to meet the president. I would like
to do that. She was happy, she was happy, and

(05:55):
she was very happy. She said that she saved thousands
of dollars this year, although you could almost tell that
she was not a Trump supporter because the President asked
her if if he voted, if she voted for him,
and she did not respond to the positive. So you know,

(06:18):
it's always the economy, Stupe. It's the economy's tope it Yeah, Sharon,
we just got past tax day. We just got past
April fifteenth. And I was saying to Mary on the
fifteenth yesterday that, gee, today's April fifteenth. I bet there
are a lot of people with their undies and the

(06:38):
bunch trying to get through this tax day's situation. I
would love, I would love the day that there is
no income taxes. I've gotta be honest with you, Sharon,
but when we did our taxes, when we did our
taxes last week, we're pleasantly surprised that the fact that
we did not have to pay any tax. And where

(07:01):
I'm coming from that is I don't like to give
the government extra money for them to be making money on.
So usually we end up paid. But because of no
tax on so security, because of the bigger deduction, we
got a bigger tax, a bigger tax break. And our

(07:23):
account said, there are a lot of people that were
in the same boat we were this year. I just
hope all these people realize it's because of what the
big beautiful bill and this is what happens when you
have a conservative and a White House. And again, you
may not like Donald Trump, you may not like him

(07:45):
a bit, but I think when people vote, they need
to vote on a politician's policies and platforms are not personality.
You know. The President did something the other day that
I thought it was a bit silly. He put out
an AI picture of himself. He says it was him

(08:07):
being a doctor, you know. To me, it looked like
him being a holy figure, an angel or you know.
And I think that was not of been the best
of taste. I wouldn't have done it. If I were him,
I would have advised him not to do it. If
he asked me. Of course he didn't. But again, again

(08:29):
that's Donald Trump, and that's Donald Trump says a humor,
and it sends a humor all the time. I don't
think it is real funny. But again, I don't want
a president to be funny. I want a president to
be president. I went to president, it's going to put
America first. My God, Sharon, if we had a king,

(08:50):
which you don't, but if we had a king, I
would want our king to love America as much as
Donald Trump does. And this man has done so much
for this country, it's unbelievable. Look what he did in Venezueale.
He got rid of a terrible dictator there. Look what
he's doing in a Ran he got rid of another

(09:12):
terrible dictator there. And when you get rid of these
terrible dictators, guess what you are saving lives? You are
saving lives some Maduro and his predecessors in Venezuela for
the past thirty years have been nothing but a pain
in the butt. The iatolas have been nothing but a

(09:34):
pain in the butt for forty seven years. He's getting
rid of those problems and people are going well. The price,
I guess. I don't like paying four dollars is gout
for a gallant, Sharon, I don't like paying four dollars
account for a gallon to gas. However, much rather pay
four dollars for a gallet gas than having a a

(09:54):
an iranium missile over my head with a nuclear bomb.
And I explain that before you know, if the Iranians
had a nuclear weapon, I am sure they would use
it or would have used it. They would have went
after Israel first. Israel would have retaliated. And does that

(10:15):
the Iranian allies like Russia and China, do they respond
in kind? And then does this drag the US into
a nuclear war? Thank god, the likelihood of that happening
now is gone thanks to Donald Trump. And yeah, the
part of the price we have to pay is four

(10:37):
dollars a gallon for guests. But just look at nine
to eleven. Here you had a terrest attack. Two airplanes
took out the World Trade towers. Look what chaos that
created in our country. You know, we're still paying the
price for them. We're still paying the price. When we
go into an airport, we have to go through metal

(11:01):
detectors and X ray machines and a lot of other
a lot of other unpleasantries just to get on an
airplane because of nine to eleven.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
I don't know about out Nevada, but in New Jersey
they instituted the system to get a driver's license you
had to produce like six pieces of identification. Oh that is,
unless you're an illegal alien, it is all right, But
everyone else has to produce six pieces of identification, get

(11:36):
the license. Guess what that's all that was all because
of nine to eleven TSA, the Patriot Act. All that
was because of nine to eleven because some people did something.
Remember that one from momar if you know more. These
terrorists hijacked planes and drove them into the World Trade Towers,

(11:58):
the Pentagon. They were also going to hear it, probably
the Capitol Building, I think the Capitol Building. So thank you,
President Trump. Thank you for the no tax on tips,
thank you for the no tax on overtime. Thank you,
in my personal opinion, thank you for no tax on

(12:18):
social Security, because that's sure say this outs old a
lot of money, and after we see the way that
government wastes money, you know, especially what is going on
in Minnesota, California. I don't have a big heart about
paying taxes. I think a lot of our tax money

(12:41):
is wasted, totally totally wasted. And this thirty nine trillion
dollars debt that we have, I think most of that
probably wanted, probably went for these stupid liberal social programs
and the waste, fraud and abuse, and the money to
these non governmental organizations. Other than that, I have nothing

(13:06):
to say, thing to.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Say why money to go back to the little door
dash thing it Well.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
You don't have time. Guess what you don't have time,
We're going to have to do it in the next segment.
Actually a boat Day and this is the Conservative Commandos
with Sharon Angle. I'm Rick Traider and today show, like
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(13:34):
and I will be right back.

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(18:05):
want to go back to deal dash or dash?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah, I just wanted to choose. I just wanted to
say that the lefties got really concerned about this because
of course it went viral and they said, well, we're
going to counsel our app. We're not going to use
the door dash app. Anymore because Trump's been using this.

(18:32):
He policized the whole thing, and he gave McDonald's a
corporate boost and DoorDash a corporate boost, and you know,
it's just too much politics and we're canceling our app
The interesting part of that, though, is that door Dash
actually experienced their largest boost in their in their trading.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
They have been kind of on the uh staying at place,
but they they they said that nor Day's shares posted
their strongest trading session in several weeks wowing this White
House appear appearance. So the lefties made it go viral
and everybody benefited. They don't know when they're gonna get

(19:21):
a clue that what they're doing is really not a
problem for the mainstream of this country. We respond the
way it was, and so they just boosted it, is

(19:42):
what they did. Another thing that they're boosting now is Jerry, can.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
I stop you for a moment? Can they stop you
for a moment? This this incident at the White House
happened when was it? Mondy Tuesday today and all honesty
being Wednesday when we record this show. Door Dash was

(20:07):
up sixteen dollars and thirty eight cents a share again today.
That's an increase, and that this is suggested one day.
I'm just looking at this now, just in one day.
That's an increase of ten percent within one day, within

(20:28):
one day.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Oh, this stock actually working for Corporate America. Well, he's
working for the guy that worked. Absolutely just boosted everybody.
The economy got a real kick start, didn't it.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Sharon. This stock went from a dollar sixty three to it,
I'm sorry, one hundred and sixty three dollars a share,
one hundred and eighty dollars a share, boom boom, sixteen dollars.
And that is in one day. You shared just what
I was saying when we went into it's good business

(21:05):
to do business with a conservative company. I don't know
if dial Dash is conservative or not, but by dealing
with Donald Trump, look it, it increased the value of
his company ten percent. Wow. I wish I bought Stewart

(21:26):
ash stock yesterday.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Well you didn't know, did you. You just didn't know
that it was gonna kind of boost that stock so much.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
But no, I did.

Speaker 7 (21:38):
What.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Trump is good for the economy in more ways than
just uh doze, in more ways than just making us
safe again. In more ways, than trying to rein in
the globalism that's going on that thinks that they can

(22:00):
survive on our taxpayer dollars. He's rained all of that
in and we are feeling it. He's put in the
big beautiful bill, which you felt it in your own pocketbook.
And now he just just on the side. Everybody calls
it a publicity stunt, but look what he did. What
he did for no tax on tip folks, and for

(22:24):
door Dash and s Mc'donald's sure, it's just a win
win all the way.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Around, Sharon. On the tenth of April, which was that
that was ever the weekend I think? Or was that
last Friday? The door Dash at that time, Well, let
me get it, I had it, I lost it, Okay,

(22:48):
one fifty three, one fifty three. This stock went up
thirty dollars a share since this lady showed up at
the White House. That's huge, Sharon, that's huge.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
And say thank you.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
To the liberals for making that thing go viral very much.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Right, Oh, so does this so is this effect all
by Donald Trump having DoorDash come to the White House,
or does this have the effect of what Trump is
doing in the Middle East? That wall Street is seeing
that we are okay and we are better now than
ever before. And also the effect of door Dash going

(23:39):
to the Whitehouse. I'm sure anybody who owns stock in
door Dash is very very very happy today. That's that's amazing,
that's amazing, Sharon. In other words, since all this happened,
the value of this company, as I say, in one
day one up ten percent. Since this all happened, the

(24:02):
value of this company went up twenty percent. I bet
there's going to be other companies trying to get the
White House. Maybe Amazon, please, hey, please let me let
us come to the West Wing, let us come to
the Oval office please.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Or come in and put on a hat in our company,
do something that will help us as well. And he
is he's really good at marketing, and of course that's
his strong suit. When we hired a businessman for the
White House, but we did put a mind at work

(24:45):
that helped promote not only this country, but the businesses
in this country, the things that we do in this
country that make us great. And he has, like you said,
he loves this country, but he has done more than
just love that. He has put that love into action
and in so many ways, it's hard to even list

(25:06):
them all. So I'm looking forward to seeing him and
just clapping very loudly and cheering. How about that?

Speaker 1 (25:19):
That sounds good. Also, McDonald's is up, Yes, of course
they are. McDonald's today was up three dollars a share,
and it's up six dollars a share from this thing
at the way else went on. It's yes, it is.
It is a beautiful thing. It is, it is, you know.

(25:39):
I love hello. Hello, No, my beautiful bride just she
thought I called her, but not this time, sweetie. I'm
trying to thought. There you go. It was the McDonald's

(26:00):
stock is up, you know, since this thing at the
White House. I mean, I'm a capitalist, Sharon. I love
it when people make money. You know, there are a
lot of people out there that absolutely that are absolutely
jealous when people make money. I like it when people
make money. I like it when people do well. I

(26:20):
like it when people get rich. I like it when
people's portfolios in four oh one k's go up. Donald
Trump is great for America. I mean compared to where
we were when we had Joe o'biden in the White House.
Oh my gosh, what I want to just overall. Being

(26:45):
that I'm looking at stocks, so I wonder where the
markets were today, Sector fifty two. Uh uh, See what
happens when you start talking. Well, the dam was down
a little bit today, but still it's at forty eight

(27:08):
thousand and four hundred and and sixty three, not not
far from back at the fifty thousand level. Standard and
Poors were up, Nasdek was up, the Russell two thousand
were up. All the good things that today, Sharon were up.
As I said, that was down a little bit, but

(27:30):
it's at it's at a good level. I love it
when America is prosperous. Of course, the liberals don't.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
They hate it.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
They hate it. They hate America. They hate they heard it.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Not only that's right. They not only have Trump derangement syndrome,
we have America derangements sentral. Yeah, they you know, that
was very hard for us to understand. But they when
America isn't doing well and yet they want to live

(28:04):
here and take advantage of all the wonderful things that
we have as Americans. It's just mind boggling.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
It is. Indeed, it's mind boggling, and it's sickening, you know,
it's sickening when they cheer when something negative happens in America,
it's sickening. Well, they cheer when something negative happens, and
they they they they boo when something good happens.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
And and something that we get some negatives on is
a commercial break, and we're right up against it again.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Thank you for that, Thank you for that sharing well,
and you know, usually it's me trying to stop you,
but this time you're stopping me. So that's a good thing.
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from you, Sharon. Erica Kirk is back in the news.

(31:32):
Unfortunately it's not for a very good thing.

Speaker 8 (31:36):
No.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
You know, we were talking about Trump's going to be
appearing here in Las Vegas and Erica Kirk was scheduled
to up heear with Turning Point us A when nearly
on stage and her spokesman came out and said, you
won't be here, and the reason is because she's received

(32:00):
some serious threats on her life. Jadi Vance went ahead
and was there on the stage, but he also confirmed
that it was Erica who had personally been threatened and
so she wasn't going to come. She was very worried

(32:23):
about it, and they consult the Secret Service and ultimately
decided to move forward with the event. But Erica didn't show,
and you can't blame her. She is the sole survivor,
survivor for her children. They can't lose another parent, No,

(32:44):
they can't, No, cause it is worth your life and
the lives of your children going forward. And it's and
that's really it. You know that, I know that she
wants to be there to rally the troops to say,
come on, let's get everybody out to vote in the midterms.

(33:04):
But honestly, there are others that can carry that flag.
Jadie Vance can carry that flag. There are others, And
I guess I just get very concerned more about the

(33:26):
direction that our country seems to just continue to head in,
and that is we talked about the leftist being unhinged. Well,
this is unhinging again. To threaten a mother, a young mother.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Really it's because they disagree with her politically, Yes, they
disagree with her politically, so they threaten her life. They're
willing to take the mother away from her children. I mean,
is there any reason why I call these people Sicocrats?

(34:05):
Is there any reason why I started calling these people
this Cicocrat party? Because you know, there was another incident.
I don't know if you saw it in Minnesota. We're
a young female reporter from Turning Point, USA, went out
on the streets to talk to people who were demonstrating. Now,

(34:28):
we hear all the time we need to communicate, we
need to come together, we need to know, not with them. Well,
there's this little young lady five foot four, about one
hundred and nothing pounds, was attacked, physically attacked by a crowd,
including one man who was about two hundred and fifty pounds.

(34:53):
And all she wanted to do was to talk with
these people the way Charlie Kirk used to. And this
vicious crowd turned on her and attacked her, and she says,
I'm leaving, I'm leaving, leave me alone. I'm leaving, and
they chased her down the street. These people are unhinged.

(35:14):
They're unhinged, Sharon. And this is a phenomenon that we've
seen in this country. I would say since the Clinton era.
I think the Clinton era is when this vitriol really
really started to take off, and when you got people

(35:39):
like Barack Obama, the great divider of our time, divide
into the country left and right, male, female, conservative, liberal, black, white,
whichever way he could divide our country. He worked to
do it, and then you had Then you have people

(36:01):
like Maxine Waters. Remember she said, if you see these
people in a restaurant, you make a scene. You make
a scene, you make it unpleasant for these people. This
is what you get, Sharon, this is what you get.
You got threats to a mother, You got threats to

(36:23):
a young girl, a young lady. She was about twenty four.
I'll call that young.

Speaker 8 (36:29):
That.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
You can't even you can't discuss things at family dinners anymore.
You certainly cannot discuss politics. You know, you end up
dividing the family. Oh it was Barack Obama. You remember
during his administration he put it together a campaign, what

(36:51):
the things to discuss the Thanksgiving dinner? Remember that the
great divider, the greatest divider of this country has ever had.
You know, when Barack Obama was elected president, I was
done for him. Why because I did not like his policies,

(37:12):
and I thought when he was elected, I thought, well,
maybe we can put together to bed this idea that
America is a racist country. After all, America had just
raised just elected a black man as president. And it
wasn't just the black vote that elective. The black vote

(37:32):
in this country is only thirteen percent. Took over fifty
percent to elect this man. So I thought, maybe that's it.
Racism is over. But what he did when he got
in office, he kicked racism in second gear into high gear.
With Trevor and Martin. Oh, if I had a son,
he would look just like Trevon Martin or the police

(37:56):
acted stupidly, remember.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
That, Sharon, Yes, I do.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
I don't know what's going to take. I really don't
know what's going to take to end this vitual. You
would think it's let's sit down and talk our differences. No,
you can't do that anymore. You can't do that with
the left or else. Somebody's going to come at you.
Somebody's going to physically come at you for having an

(38:25):
opinion different from theirs.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Well, and it's not only the left, there are the
so called people on the right who are so critical
of every action. Candace Owens is at it again. She
just can't let Erica Kirk go. She can't let it
go at all. She says that her decision wasn't about

(38:54):
her safety, it was about public relations or it was
a PR stunt, and she's just you know, she said
that she didn't really love Charlie because you know, it
didn't take too long for her to remove her wedding
picture from uh the the tp us a back drop.

(39:20):
And it turns out what happened was who Erica, Erica
and Charlie's wedding picture was moved, and Candace had to
take exception to that because moving that picture meant she
wasn't she didn't really love Charlie, and it was just,
you know, all of her grief was a pr stunt.

(39:44):
But the truth of the matter is that she moved
that photo because her little girl couldn't see it up
there and she wanted it moved down the lower so
that she could see it. And so that's what she did.
You know, people are so quick quick to criticize in

(40:06):
and it's you know, I guess it's it's disappointing. It's
embarrassing to have someone that you thought was on your
side begin to accuse you of things like this. You know,
it's just it's just amazing to me. What is what

(40:27):
has come about? You know, you know, what did Erika
Kirk ever do to deserve this?

Speaker 9 (40:35):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Well, you know, it's nothing, nothing. She loses her husband,
she takes over his mission and for her trouble, no
good deed goes unpunished. Rick she gets criticized as putting
on some kind of a PR event. The whole event

(40:57):
was a PR event. Candace the vice president was there.
He's big news. Come on, what mattered? What does it
matter if Erica shows up or not? If you got
the vice president right? And what does it matter if
Erica shows up, doesn't show up because she's concerned for

(41:18):
her safety. It's just, you know, I just can't believe it.
This this kind of attack that comes. Yeah, it is
very ugly.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yah, Yeah, I don't know what's going on with Canda Sewns.
I know that at one time she was very thick
with Charlie Kirk. I remember that they used to do
to turning Point events together. I can speaking of what
we were just speaking of. You know, remember again Maxine
Waters say, you see anybody in a restaurant, make noise,

(41:57):
get a crowd going whatever. We were having lunch in
Philadelphia a couple of years ago. This was Charlie Kirk
and Candas Owens at an outdoor restaurant. I think it
was in Rittenhouse Square in Philadelphia one of the real
pretty picturesque areas of the city, and people started harassing
him to the point where they had to move, they

(42:18):
had to leave the restaurant. So, and this was Charlie
Kirk and Candas Sowens together in Philadelphia. So I don't
know what. I don't know what Canda sewens motivation is
right now, I really don't. But there's another Tucker Carlson,
another guy who I really liked and respected when he

(42:41):
was on Fox. I always enjoyed watching his show. Yeah,
I don't watch Fox all the time. I've got enough
to do with au n TV. But there's certain shows
I do like. One of them was I liked Tucker
Carlson the way I now like Jesse Waters. But my gosh,

(43:02):
I don't. I don't know what's gotten it to Tucker
anymore either.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Well, it seems to be an Israel derangement syndrome. I mean,
these folks just go completely off the deep end. They
give up their longstanding relationships, long standing friendships over a
disagreement about policy. It's as bad as the censorship that

(43:33):
we got on YouTube in twenty twenty for just mentioning
hydroxychlor quinn. It's as bad as going on your Facebook
patient finding somebody calling you names and unfriending you. It's
the censorship of opinion, it's a censorship of free speech. Really,

(43:56):
we have the right to express our opinions and to
disagree affect every relationship, and you know, it just goes
to show how deep their feelings of friendship are. My
mother used to call them fair weather friends. I have
a friend who says there are no friends in politics'

(44:21):
only allies. So as soon as you disagree with your ally,
they're no longer your friend. It's not you don't have
friends there. And I'm beginning to agree more and more
with her that these loyalties are very skin deep and
only as far as they benefit self interest. There is

(44:46):
no such thing as an altruistic friendship for some people.
And that's all I can say about some of these
that we thought were true friends of the conservative right
and they've turned out to be unfaithful.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Well, you mentioned Facebook, and you know there are a
lot of people have lost friends because of Facebook, you know,
Like I got five thousand Facebook friends. Most of these
people I have no idea who they are, Yeah, but
they're my Facebook friends. The other day I deleted somebody
one of these Facebook friends because of how nasty they

(45:27):
were being to the Catholic Church. Well, you know, just
the fact that I unfriended them doesn't mean I want
anything bad to happen to them. I just don't want
to put up with people bashing the church. Now, if
it was a family member that was bashing the church,
I had to ignore them, I'd go into another room,

(45:48):
you know what I mean. But I wouldn't this this
own them as a family member. But that's the vitual
in America today. You can't disagree. You disagree, and right
away some people call you stupid. They get really really nasty,

(46:09):
they wish you dead and all this other stuff. And
when they wish you dead, they really want you dead.
They really want you dead.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Well, Erica Kirk, they want Erica Kirk.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
They killed Charlie Kirk. They want Rika Kirk. They probably
kill Remember the guy in uh Virginia who was running
for secretary of State or attorney general, one or the
other actually ended up winning. Who wished that a political opponent,

(46:42):
they wished him two bullets in his head and for
his wife to watch his children die over What a
political difference. How ridiculous. Yes, you do have the right.
You do have the right first cemented rights freedom of speech.

(47:03):
But you also have the right not to be ignorant,
stupid and say ignorant stupid things right, ignorant and stupid
things on people, And to.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Threaten someone like that is a crime. That's that's assault,
and you can be arrested for assault. Your words do matter.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
When they speaking of assault. I think we're assaulting another
break here.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Your words do matter when they hurt another person like.

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(51:28):
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(51:52):
staffers actually killed herself. Eric Shawwell is is uh accused
of sexual harassment, sexual assault rate. He's got a whole mess.
And apparently in the state of Florida, there is another

(52:14):
politician who wants to run for governor who has his
own problems. Tell us about it.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
And so the Slager County Sheriff's office said that their
deputies responded to a residence in Palm Coast on the
morning of April tenth, after receiving a nine to one
one call from about a violent confrontation including a weapon.
The color identified as one of the victims, alleged that

(52:44):
forty six year old Kevin Chaikowski, who is running for
governor there in Florida on the Democrat ticket, struck these
two elderly individuals inside their home, including hitting one with
a cane and throwing a cell phone at the other one,

(53:05):
and threatened their lives. According to the investigators, the victims
told dispatchers that they were unable to leave their home,
knowing that one was bedroom at the time. They Later
the deputies went inside the home and located these two

(53:26):
people inside a bedroom and then escorted them out through
their lunai. They made contact with Tchaikowski at the scene,
so he was still there after they called nine to
one one and ordered him to surrender. He complied and
was taken into custody. He now faces many felony charges,

(53:48):
including two counts of aggregated the assault with a deadly weapon,
two counts of battery on a person over sixty five,
aggravated battery with a deadly weapon, tampering with a witness,
and two counts of robbery for sudden snatching during transport
to the the detention facility. Uh Tekowski made some suicidal statements,

(54:15):
and he was subsequate quently placed under protective custody under
Florida's Baker Act, which allows temporary detention for individuals experiencing
mental health crisis.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Yeah, this is a guy we want as a governor.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Yeah right, well, running for office, and and it just
brings this whole thing up, Rick.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
You know, when you're running for office, it's difficult to
get to the voters, it really is. They are careful
about who they opened their doors.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Well what all about? What was this about?

Speaker 2 (54:53):
They don't know exactly what he was doing at their home.
But he was previously arrested in twenty twenty four for
charges of domestic battery and domestic battery by strangulation and
false imprisonment. So this guy is a as they said,

(55:15):
he's a mental health case. He has been here before,
should not have been out on the streets. Really, it's
an amazing thing of what happens when you allow people
with mental health issues to just roam freely. There needs

(55:41):
to be there needs to be a way to keep
people safe. And obviously this guy was not a safe person.
I don't know what he was, you know, why he
was attacking these folks or trying to steal from them.

(56:03):
You know, it's just it's just a psychotic episode, really,
And yet you know, it gives politics a bad name.
It gives people that walk door to door a bad name.
It just, you know, the whole thing just makes people
pull back and not want to talk to you. So,

(56:26):
you know, I'm experiencing some of that. So many people
live in gated communities anymore, and you can only get
into a gated community if someone in that community invites
you in, and so you can't walk door to door.
And that used to be grassroots at its maximum is

(56:48):
how do you win the campaign? You go door to door,
you ask for people's folks. Well, not so much anymore.
It now has become more of a money game. If
you will, who has the most gold usually wins. And
by that I mean if you have a lot of

(57:09):
cash in your campaign fund, then you can buy the
television ads, you can buy the billboards, you can buy
the signage on the streets, You buy the vote. The
voter does hardly ever gets to see the candidate face
to face and know what they're about. Now, I know

(57:30):
Tchaikowski lost everybody's vote with this. Now, if this is
not going to be, farewell for him, But it also
gives the rest of us a bad name, those of
us that are running for offices, those of us who
have people who are walking door to door with us.

(57:50):
I went with a lady the other day. She walked
on one side the street, I walked on the other,
and we did run into a one person that was rude.
That mostly people were very eager to talk and wanted
to know that we were out and about and that

(58:11):
we were asking for their vote. So's it's just a
problem anymore to go out in campaign, because how do
you do it when people are so afraid, and rightly
so rightly so, when you have somebody that attached in
your home and with your with whatever you've got handy

(58:37):
right with your cane, throws your cell phone at you,
you know, those kinds of things. Who knows what set
him off, but obviously he's had trouble with his temper before.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Well, I'm looking at one report of this that says
that they were two family members two elderly family members.
So I don't know if that was part of the problem,
but oh, thank and it.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Could be because he was arrested for domestic violence in
twenty twenty four, which means family man.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Obviously this man has issues and well maybe, thank god
we find out about this now, you know, Sharon going
Georgia door with campaign is very interesting. I recall about
ten or twelve years ago, I was working with Americans

(59:34):
for Prosperity. I was shooting videos for them, and one
of the things that I would do is follow people
as they were canvassing in a community. And I was
amazed how receptive people were and people thank these people

(59:56):
for going, thank you for stopping by him, thank you
for information, thank you for what you're doing. And I
was a little bit surprised about that most people, and
your experience is probably a lot more expensive than the
experience that I had. But people like the fact that
neighbors were out informing other neighbors about candidates things like that.

(01:00:22):
I would I would not find it surprising that occasionally
you would find somebody who is not nice. I mean,
there are times people have come to my door and
I could have been nicer, especially if I'd been awakened,
especially if I didn't want Comcast or Verizon or something

(01:00:46):
like that. But I wasn't like I was nasty. I
just didn't want to hear what they had to say.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
You know, you know, it just kind of comes with
the territory. You I walked enough doors that you know, well,
you get somebody that's just rude, and you know they've
had a bad day or you never can't tell what
what caused them to be rude to you. You just
were the the guy on the other end of that.

(01:01:18):
But this, you know, this kind of action by somebody
who's running for office. You know, we once again, we
kind of said it yesterday and we say it again.
Check check folks out. The information is up there, it's
it's on their website. It's you know, go find out

(01:01:41):
who's running and who you're going to support. Don't wait
for somebody to come knocking at your door to get
that information. Go out and be more proactive about it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
I say that all the time. You know, find out
about a candidate, a candidates platform, the issues that they're
running on. Just because somebody has a nice handshake and
a warm smile doesn't mean they're fit to hold office
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Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
What do you got, kiddo, Oh a little two minute
thank you. I was asked the other day if I
thought that discrimination was more prevalent now than race discrimination,
age discrimination, age discrimination.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Rooms I comparing it to race discrimination. Well, that's I
don't know that I've been discriminated again because of my
age or my race. There there have been times where
I feel like I was in the past when I

(01:06:10):
was discriminated because of my race, and that was when
I was in the the when I was in black neighborhoods.
When I was working in a car wash and came
to New Jersey, which was a black neighborhood, I was
I was treated rather rudely sometimes by people who are black. Yeah,

(01:06:32):
but you know what I was. Sometimes you got treated
rudely by people who are white. So I don't know.
I guess I'm not going to get an entry level
job at my age. I guess. I guess the jobs
that would be open to me would be greeter at Walmart.
You know, that would be fun. But I don't know.

(01:06:54):
I don't know how to answer that. I don't know.
How did you it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
I didn't know. At first, I was thinking, really, I
was wondering, and then I got to thinking about the
things that are age defined. When you go in to
get a driver's license, it used to be that every
ten years you got your driver's license renewed, but you

(01:07:20):
reach a certain age, and now it's every five years,
and they don't say are you so competent? They just
assume that you're not competent. It's an assumption made on
that number based on your age. They also when you

(01:07:42):
go in to have some kind of surgical procedure or
a well usually it's surgery, and they say, well, let's
look actuarily at you. How many good years have you
got left? Is it really it to do this surgery?

(01:08:04):
And you know, and you I'm thinking of things like
knee replacements, hip replacements, things like that, my quality of
life situations where you're in pain and they say, well,
you know, why don't you just go home? Take a
couple of as friends and quote to bed you mentioned

(01:08:26):
you mentioned the discrimination for a job. Some people have
to work when they're older. They don't get the benefit
of retirement, and they're social security just isn't enough, and
so they do have to get a job. And what's
open to them are.

Speaker 10 (01:08:46):
Jobs like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
McDonald's will still hire older people. Walmart, as you pointed out,
will still hire you for a greeter. But will they
hire you for one of the higher paying positions like cashier?

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
And you know, I don't know. I see I see
elderly people acting as working as cashiers. In fact, I
can remember some time ago reports coming out that companies
were specifically targeting older people because they're more dependable than

(01:09:23):
younger people. They took their job more seriously than younger people.
They were absent a lot less than younger people. They
didn't have the family problems that younger people have with
babysitters and the like, and emotional problems because the boyfriend

(01:09:44):
broke up with the girlfriend and stuff like that. So
I would say it's probably a wash, don't you think
you know the things that you're discussing, like knees and
hips and stuff like that. Like right now, my my bride,
and I'm not going to tell you how old she is.

(01:10:05):
She would kill me if I went on TV and
radio and said how old she was. But she's dealing
with the possible with the possible name replacement right now.
Thank god we didn't get that question from a doctor,
because I probably would have had a problem with that,
you know, if they brought out some kind of actuary
list and say, well, gee, how many years do you

(01:10:27):
have left? I had. I had two hip replacements. I
had one of fifty seven years old. It gave me
my life back again. I know the value of these
joint replacements that we can get. Thank god we live
in a country. Thank god we'd live in a day
and time when you can have these procedures done. I've
talked to people that have had replacement surgery, and they

(01:10:50):
said with ay when I said, gave me my life
back again, it gives them their life back again. A
friend of ours who is now passed, he needed a
valve replacement in his heart, and he gave him ten
more years of good life. Died in ninety five. You

(01:11:10):
know where he might have died in eighty five, but
having the valve replacement give me he was on hospice, Sharon,
This man was on hospice and game another ten good years.
So I don't know. I can't say I've ever been

(01:11:31):
discriminated about because of my age, and I think there's
some advantage of being an old, fat, bald guy, you know.
I think that there are some people that are afraid,
you know, some younger people that are afraid of older people.

(01:11:55):
I don't know. Do we look scary? Maybe I do.
I don't know. But I can't say that I've been
been discriminated about my age, and I haven't been discriminated
lately because of my race. So I don't know if
I'm a good judge or your question.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Well, I was just I was asked it and I thought,
I'm going to bring it up, and let's discuss just
what that means. Maybe our maybe our viewers would like
to weigh in whether they think there is a a
discrimination going on in our country as our as our

(01:12:35):
population ages out. You know, we are the largest generation now,
the boomers are still the largest. We were the largest
when we were born. We just continued to be the
largest as we as we age and we are the more.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
I eat, I get larger and larger.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Well, and and we're living longer as well. That that's
due to good medicine, good nutrition. I actually good upbringing,
good home life. There was There's a lot to be
said for the lifestyle after World War Two and the

(01:13:17):
benefits that we had growing up as children. So we
are are aging out a lot later in life. I
had a friend of mine say that fifty was the
new thirty, and so seventy is the new fifty by

(01:13:37):
any and there is something to be said about that.
For some folks they do age better than others, depending
on how they took care of themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Right, I agree with that. Another thing, I look at
it this way, age's number. Life is an attitude, and
I sincerely mean that you want to you want to
be younger, act younger, You want to be happier, act happier.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
I had an aunt that lived to be one hundred
and six years old, and so she was borny before
either World War, in the time when we didn't have
airplanes or cars or you know, tears were like not
even thought of. But she lived to be one hundred

(01:14:28):
and six years old. And at one point I said
to her aunt, Marie, what's the secret, what's the secret
for your longevity? And she said, never focus in on yourself,
Always focus on others. Always be ready to serve others.
Always pay attention to the needs of others above yourself.

(01:14:49):
And she that was her life goal, was to make
sure that she helped other people. And it was a
good philosophy. She remained physically able and mentally able to
clear into her hundreds because of that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
God bless her for that. Sharon. With that, we do
have to wrap it up. Okay, so I want to
thank you for sitting in today as my co host.
But for right now we are out of time. Means
if we got a run and we gotta go take care,
God bless we'll see it tomorrow. That's going to be
on TV and on radio.

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Speaker 11 (01:17:05):
You're not supposed to have dead people on the rolls.

Speaker 12 (01:17:08):
Jake Christian Adams is with the Public Interest Legal Foundation.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
The Public Interest Legal Foundation is a nonprofit advocacy group.
They have been going to various states and various counties
checking their voter registration lists to make sure that people
are actually cleaning up their lists, taking people off who've
died or otherwise moved away or not aliens, and then

(01:17:33):
issuing reports on what they find. One of their latest reports, frankly,
was about Palm Beach, Palm Beach County, Florida, and there
they found people registered in voting who were also registered
voting in other states. They have found non citizens aliens
on the voter rolls too, and they've been doing a

(01:17:54):
really good job checking into this kind of thing that
the kind of thing back, frankly that the government ought
to be doing and is not doing.

Speaker 13 (01:18:03):
Palmetto State's attorney general saying more than nine hundred of
the voters in the recent elections were actually dead people,
and you might wonder how do those dead people find
their way to the pole.

Speaker 14 (01:18:13):
Harrisonburg, Pennsylvania found that twenty defeast people had somehow reregistered
to vote this election cycle.

Speaker 12 (01:18:22):
They have signed vote by mail envelopes with her mother's
name for the twenty fourteen and twenty twelve election, even
though she died ten years ago. Don Sankner died in
Palmdale in two thousand and three. He somehow voted from
the grade in two thousand and four, two thousand and five,
two thousand and six, two thousand and eight, and twenty ten.

Speaker 13 (01:18:43):
One of the relatives of the deceased reregistered person got.

Speaker 14 (01:18:47):
A ballot and they're like, wait a minute, my father
passed away.

Speaker 15 (01:18:50):
Because I voted twice, I certainly wanted my vote account
Buckus Barron lives here.

Speaker 6 (01:18:57):
Joseph Jones is my brother. He's here time to time.

Speaker 16 (01:19:00):
I am Montez's power of attorney.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
I vote voted for her in her absence.

Speaker 15 (01:19:06):
Pascal Parker prosecutors say the Tennessee man voted in the
twenty twelve presidential election, first by voting in person in
spring Hill, Tennessee, then mailing in absentee ballots in Florida
and North Carolina. In Maryland, a Democratic candidate for Congress,
Wendy Rosen, was caught she illegally voted twice in two states.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Who finds vote for ud attorneys, volunteers.

Speaker 8 (01:19:30):
Candidates, firemen.

Speaker 17 (01:19:32):
EIPCA is using their critical information with groups like Public
Interest Legal Foundation and Judicial Watch to truss cute these cases.

Speaker 18 (01:19:40):
Marry sir Yanamo retired attorney from New Jersey. I've spent
my life working on campaigns and elections and have done
a number of lawsuits. For governor's election for Ellen Sowerbray
in Maryland, when she ran against Paris Glen Denning.

Speaker 19 (01:19:59):
We found six.

Speaker 18 (01:20:00):
Hundred people who had voted from prison at polling places,
but the judge of that case said that we weren't
sure whether or not they had voted for her or
for her opponent, and we couldn't be absolutely sure that
they were in prison.

Speaker 19 (01:20:16):
On election day.

Speaker 20 (01:20:17):
Yes, I have been a volunteer through the vote since
two thousand and nine, researching voter fraud and the registries
and Our first initiative began in CD eighteen with Sheila
Jackson Lee's district, where we purchased about twenty nine thousand
voter registrations and reconcile those registrations and try and painstakingly

(01:20:42):
research different databases, the dead voter rolls, duplicate names, vacant lots,
and out of the twenty nine thousand, one thousand and
seven nine were good, but in researching Harris County, in

(01:21:04):
one house there was nineteen thousand registered voters.

Speaker 21 (01:21:14):
December first, twenty sixteen.

Speaker 17 (01:21:17):
Huge voter fraud uncovered in Las Vegas, Nevada by candidates
stand Von.

Speaker 22 (01:21:22):
I used to work years ago for the post office,
and I know that if you send out a first
class letter and there's nobody there, the post office will
put a yellow label on there, verifying that the person
doesn't live there, or that they've moved to a new
dress which might be out of the district, by the way,
in which case they should not be voting in this.

(01:21:42):
Anybody we thought were as the illegitimate voters, we mailed
direct mail to they. In most cases almost you know,
one percent, these were coming back when people said, you know,
I don't know anybody here by that name or moved,
no forwarding address or addressing not known, or in a
few cases at over one hundred vacant lot, no male receptacle.

(01:22:07):
We had nine people voting at this particular address. I
want to show you where they live. This is a
thirty six ninety six south Taikos, just to the side
of thirty seven hundred Tacos.

Speaker 23 (01:22:19):
Right, elections are being stolen.

Speaker 24 (01:22:23):
Eric Johnson is a ten year veteran of the highly
A Fire Department. His career has been focused on responding
to life threatening emergencies with his fellow firefighters, but recently
Johnson has been on a different mission, finding absentee voter fraud,
a problem he believes is eating away at the fundamental
democratic principle of one person, one vote.

Speaker 25 (01:22:45):
It's so important that we be engaged in every aspect
of the election process. We need pole watchers, we need
pole workers. The fact is is that on election day,
and be before election day. Look, I want to make
sure I underscore this. In many states, more and more

(01:23:06):
states of early voting begins not just two weeks out,
not just four weeks out, not just six weeks out,
and in some cases as soon as seven weeks out,
and so we have to make sure that we have
people engage in the process from the day that voting
begins to the close of the last poll on election day,

(01:23:27):
and that means that we have to do the grunt
work of elections. It's part of our civic duty to
put our eyeballs against the process and to bring as
much as sunshine to the process as we possibly can
through our engagement.

Speaker 7 (01:23:45):
It's the way the voter rules are manipulated is duplication
of a voter. Because many people qualify to actually get
the database. Someone who might want to duplicated voter can
simply fill out an application in someone else's name, a

(01:24:06):
deceased person's name, or a neighbor or you name it.
They just have to change slightly change the birth date,
or slightly change a little piece of it. They have
to keep the address the domicile where they registered to vote,
but the middle initial can be changed. A slight change
creates a new voter registration and then that can be submitted.

(01:24:28):
In one county, we met in person with the registrar,
a voter, the fraud department of the registrar's office, the
fraud department of that County and two investigators for the
DA's office, and we provided for them twenty five examples
out of a set of two hundred of hard copy
voter registration Affidavid's showing that they that they were duplicated,

(01:24:53):
that they had been filled out in the same hand,
but they had been signed by a different person. So
John Doe to applications for John Doe exactly the same,
with its light variation. The Registrar's office the fraud department,
not the register's office, but the county said that the
same thing is happening in their other departments, with every

(01:25:15):
government office housing foodstamps in medical, the level of fraud
is so huge that the standard to prove intent is
even higher and more difficult to prove, and so it's
all being ignored.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
But the number of cases we report on as just
a tiny amount of what's really happening.

Speaker 26 (01:25:36):
Look.

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
A number of years ago, the Pew Foundation did a
study across the country. They found almost three million people
were registered in more than one state.

Speaker 25 (01:25:47):
They found.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
Almost three million people who were dead who were still
on the voter rolls. That shows the extent of the
potential problem, and not an is being done about this.
Look the two biggest, two of the biggest states in
the country, California and New York. They do absolutely nothing

(01:26:11):
to verify that people are citizens when they register to vote,
and they don't do anything to compare their voter registration
list with that of other states. They just aren't interested
in doing anything to fix these kind of problems.

Speaker 7 (01:26:27):
We found one gentleman in one county that was duplicated
seven times. So the amazing thing to us is the
registrars were not catching this. So you have to look
at the data in a different way, and that is
what we were able to do is come up with
a different way of outlinking the data and we were
able to document where the problems were.

Speaker 18 (01:26:46):
Election law is important. Aren't that many people that are
trained in it. It's a long process. Every state has
different rules. Even some jurisdictions Wisconsin, people have to be
alive on election day. In Maryland, they could have died
thirty days before, as long as they voted absentee, they

(01:27:08):
can vote and then die and their vote would still count.

Speaker 4 (01:27:13):
Of course, they couldn't do all of this without legislation.
They have to legislate all of this stuff incrementally In
nineteen ninety three, the National Voter Registration Act was passed.
It's a lot that applies to every state. It required
that list be maintained, as we've been talking about, but
it also connected voter registration to government services, which meant

(01:27:35):
anytime that you interacted with a state or a federal
government office like the DMV, the Social Security, food stamps, welfare,
anything like that, you would automatically have to be offered
a registration form. And that started as some real problems
with people being duplicated on the list, not because they
intended to be, but because they made the assumption that
they had to fill out the entire packet if they

(01:27:56):
were going to get whatever service it was that they
were applying for. People who had already registered, were sending
in multiple registration forms, and they were all getting put
on the list, and then because the maintenance is not
being done, they're not being found and taken off. And
so that's how we get people registered three four, five, six, seven,
eight times, even in the same county. In nineteen ninety eight,

(01:28:20):
then we had a real crisis in which, for some
crazy reason, our legislature decided to eliminate our voter ID law.
Now those of you. In states that have voter ID,
your voter role bloating is not nearly as severe because
nobody else can vote in the name of someone without
an ID proving that's who they are. But in the
states like California, where there is no voter ID law,

(01:28:42):
it means that I can walk up to a polling
place at any time, and I can claim to be
whoever I want to claim to be, and they have
to give me that ballot.

Speaker 11 (01:28:53):
This little thing in my hand is a driver's license.
Let me tell you what this is not. This is
not a billy law, This is not a fire hose,
This is not Jim Crow. So some people say it is, so,
how is it with this tiny little thing I can

(01:29:17):
hold in my hand is causing such a start?

Speaker 27 (01:29:21):
The Attorney General says that voter ID laws that exist
in thirty states have a disparate impact on whites and blacks,
whereas in fact, the number of whites and blacks, the
percentage of whites and blacks is almost identical that do
not have photo IDs.

Speaker 28 (01:29:36):
In the states that have employed voter ID laws, minority
participation has actually increased, not decreased. Second, the United States
Supreme Court has already upheld the constitutionality of voter ID
laws are not a voter suppression. So really all of
these protections protecting minorities, protecting those who demand their right
to vote, are still going to be there to help them.

Speaker 9 (01:29:57):
So when I went to go vote in the general
into the voting station, I showed my ID and when
they were looking at it, they said, well, this, you know,
your date of birth doesn't match what's in the system,
and then told me what was in the system and
it was incorrect, and so they called over the supervisor
there or I think it was a supervisor or something
like that, and he was said, oh, we'll just go
ahead and let her vote. Well, the lady didn't really

(01:30:18):
feel comfortable with it, and so she actually showed me
all the information that was showing up on the screen
to verify everything else was correct. And it had the
correct name, Amy Jones, it had my address was the same,
my day of birth was incorrect, and then the Social
Security number that was on there was incorrect.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
And then there was also a signature.

Speaker 9 (01:30:35):
On there that started with an A and ended with
a J, but it wasn't my signature.

Speaker 29 (01:30:39):
So in North Carolina, famously, over the last few years,
we've heard information that they've checked the voter rules and
they've cross checked with other states in the region around
North Carolina, and that you're familiar with this, but I
want to reiterate it that they found thousands of people
who voted in North Carolina. Well, first of all, thousands
who were registered to vote to North Carolina and registered

(01:31:02):
to vote in another state. And then many of those
people actually voting more than once.

Speaker 4 (01:31:07):
Well, most of the time that's not the voter's fault.
The voter does the right thing. But then the system
breaks down where the new state is supposed to inform
the old state that the person is reregistered, and somehow
that system breaks down. And then, because I said, anytime
you have a state that doesn't require voter ID, that
name that remains on the list in error is there

(01:31:27):
to be impersonated by someone else. So those voters may
not actually physically be voting twice, but someone is taking
the opportunity to vote in their name when they should
have been removed. We also did away with the absentee ballot,
which is an important protection for people who have no
opportunity to vote any other way. Instead, they instituted an
indiscriminate vote by mail ballot, which each state does very differently.

(01:31:50):
And we do have four states now that vote all
by mail, and I guarantee you that those four states
have no integrity in their electoral process as a result.
The reason is that that once you start voting mostly
by mail or all by mail, then almost the entire
process is happening behind closed doors. It's a subjective process

(01:32:10):
of determining whether you want to take somebody's ballot and
use it or not. A lot of ballots have to
be what they call remade because they're in the handling process,
they get in a condition where they won't go through
the counter, and then you have to count on someone
remaking your ballot the way that you originally made it.
There's just all kinds of reasons why voting by mail

(01:32:32):
when you don't have to is a very dangerous ettlement.
In fact, two presidential commissions, the last one was chaired
by Jimmy Carter and James Baker, the third in two
thousand and five, and they came to the ultimate conclusion
that male ballots are the number one tool for fraud
in the United States of America and that they do

(01:32:54):
not fulfill five requirements for a fair an honest selection.
So we have what has happened to us in Californnias.
They have now spent the last seventeen eighteen nineteen years
on a very strong, pushy campaign that's participated in by
the political parties, by the state leadership, by the election officials, everybody,

(01:33:15):
trying to convince everyone, oh, vote by mail. It's easier,
it's cheaper, it's more convenient, it's safe, it's wonderful. And
as a result, more and more people have voluntarily put
themselves on the permanent vote by mail list, but it
wasn't happening fast enough, so now they have begun in
various as sundry ways to force people to vote by
mail even when they don't want to, and as a result,

(01:33:37):
they can really take control of an election that way.
So we want to warn you about this vote by
mail things start to get ahead of that and understand
how when people just indiscriminately can vote by mail, it
really leads to an ability to manipulate an election.

Speaker 29 (01:33:53):
Another research study found that somewhere the neighborhood at five
point seven million non US citizens voted in the two
thousand and eight election, and quite possibly more than five
point seven million in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 4 (01:34:05):
It's impossible right now to find out how many people
who are non citizens are on the voter rules and voting. However,
the best database that's available is the Department of Motor
Vehicles database because they have to get that information from
voters for people who are potential voters to find out
how to register them as with a license. And yet

(01:34:26):
California law does not allow the DMV to share that
information with the Secretary of State or with the local
elections officials. So there's really no way for us to
tell how many of those people are on the rules. However,
we do know that their ability to register is practically unimpeded,
and so you have to assume that there is quite
a bit activity there among illegal voters.

Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
The Illinois admitted that because of a glitch and it's
new automatic voter registration system that automatically registers people when
they go to get driver's license, Illinois had to admit
that over five hundred non citizens had been registered.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
To vote well Illinois.

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
Illinois in particular has a problem with this because it's
not just the recent mistake where they were forced to
admit they have aliens on the rolls. But look, in
the mid nineteen eighties, the US Justice Department prosecuted a
very large voter fraud case in Chicago. They prosecuted and
convicted dozens of aliens for registering and voting in that election.

(01:35:34):
And at the time, the US attorney estimated that this
was just a microcosm of the problem. He said he
believed there were thousands of aliens registered to vote in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
And that was thirty years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:35:49):
It's just gotten worse since then. Both the Secretaries of
State of Iowa and Ohio have now sent cases to
local prosecutors after discovering individuals who were residents of their
states but who also were registered in voting in other states.
They also have found non citizens who were on the

(01:36:13):
voting rolls who were registered in voting. And not too
long ago, the Ohio Secretary of State actually put out
a press relief and a chart because you know, a
lot of folks look at this and go, well, yeah,
that happened, but it's a relatively small number. Well, the
Ohio Secretary of State put out a list of over

(01:36:36):
one hundred and forty local elections in Ohio that had
been decided by either a tie vote or a one
vote margin of victory. So it didn't take a lot
potentially to change the outcome of election. And listen, that's
not unique. We have close elections like that all the time,

(01:36:58):
particularly at the local level, everywhere.

Speaker 19 (01:37:00):
Around the country.

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
Public Interest Legal Foundation obtained records from a number of
states and cities, places like Philadelphia, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, Virginia,
townships in Michigan, some sanctuary cities across several states, and
they went to those election officials and said, we want

(01:37:21):
the files on all the registered voters who on their
own contacted you and said, oops, need to take me off.

Speaker 4 (01:37:31):
The registered voter list, I'm not a US citizen.

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
And they literally turned up thousands, over five thousand aliens
in Virginia alone who had registered. Many of them had voted,
but before they had asked election officials take them off.
The election officials didn't detect this problem on their own.

(01:37:54):
They only took them off after these aliens contacted them.
So how many aliens are are there that have gotten
registered without detection by election officials and are continuing to vote,
We don't know, but there's clearly a lot more than
the ones who have already been found. Most of these
voluntary requests by aliens to be taken off the rolls

(01:38:17):
is probably most of them were applying to the Department
of Homeland Security for a change of status, for example,
people who were here on visas or permanent resident aliens.
They were probably applying for citizenship. And one of the
questions you are asked on the citizenship application form is

(01:38:38):
have you ever registered or voted in a US election?
So that can get you in big trouble, and that's
clearly why they quickly realized, Oops, I better get off
the voter registration list or it might prevent me from
becoming a citizen. There have been some recent prosecutions a
Mexican citizen, for example, there was news was just found

(01:38:59):
guilty of voting in California.

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
He was here illegally.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
In North Carolina recently obtained convictions of nineteen aliens who illegally.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
Registered and voted.

Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
They're not enough is being done about this.

Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
There are many more things that I think law enforcement
can do. Unfortunately, too often election officials kind of ignore
this problem. I don't think they really want to know
about it, and there's unfortunately encouragement amongst some political folks
telling people who are not US citizens, Look, you should

(01:39:40):
register and vote. We want your vote, and your chances
of getting caught are very slim. And unfortunately we know
that's going on too. In many states, the individuals who
were called for jury duty are taken from voter registration lists. Well,
oftentimes those individuals are excused from duty when they swear

(01:40:01):
under oath they are not US citizens. Obviously, that information
needs to go back to election officials so they can
investigate and determine whether the person really is not the
US citizen so they can be removed from the voter rolls.
And if that's the case, that information also needs to
be sent to law enforcement officials so these individuals can

(01:40:23):
be prosecuted. Not many states are using that readily available
information to find aliens who are illegally registering and voting.

Speaker 30 (01:40:35):
Hundreds of undocumented immigrants are applying for California driver's licenses
for the very first time without the fear of being deported.
The state expecting one point four million people to seek
a license in the first three years of the AB
sixty program.

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
That's the DMV in Granada Hills, where many people waited
in line overnight in those freezing conditions.

Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
So you can begin to see. We now allow non
citizens to work in the polls. We took away certain
markers in registration that allow us to find the duplicates
more effectively. We started issuing driver's licenses and non citizens,
and the driver's license is an absolute conduit to being
allowed to register to vote. California did not create a

(01:41:15):
firewall there as some other states did, and so now
the minute that someone gets that driver's license, they can
be registered to vote, and there's very little that will
stop them or get them to be noticed. And so
we have a lot of non citizens and illegal citizens
on the voter roles. Now they're allowing vote by mail
ballots to come in after election day. We're allowing all

(01:41:38):
vote by mail ballots elections in special election. Now, if
you interact with the DMV in any way, shape or form,
you're automatically uploaded to the voter roles, whether you want
to be or not. And this is they knew when
they wrote that law that it was going to put
a lot of non citizens and illegals on the voter rolls,
because they acknowledged it in the wording and the bill
and so they said, well, it'll be in no harm,

(01:41:59):
no foul. Somebody does get on the voter rolls by mistake,
that's okay, we won't hold them accountable. We're now giving
eight more days for people to be notified to say, hey,
there's something wrong with your ballot. You can come in
and sign it, or you can sign your ballot online.
There's a statewide submission of vote by mail ballots. What

(01:42:19):
we're doing is extending greatly the amount of time that
ballots can come in, which then allows a lot of
manipulation to happen. We're also giving felons the right to
vote now. And then, what some of you may be
very concerned about because it's happening in some of your states,
is this law that is setting up vote centers. We
have now copied the Colorado model of a vote center,

(01:42:44):
and each county right now has the right to decide
whether to go that way or not. But they eventually
want all counties to make that choice, and the minute
that your county goes to a vote center model, then
your county is all vote by mail. Now, put that
together with the chaos in the voter role, it means
that every single person on that voter role is going
to be mailed a vote by mail ballot. When you

(01:43:05):
have all those duplicates, all those deceased, all those people
that have moved out of the state, and they're still
getting mailed a ballot. All of those ballots are going
to be floating everywhere in the state, easy to harvest,
easy to manipulate, easy to fill out and get them counted.
And there's no protection to make sure that the voter,
the legitimate voter, is the one that's filling out that ballot,
and so it's an easy way to manipulate elections. Next slide. Please,

(01:43:30):
and now we've finally passed laws that really not only
allow but incentivize ballot harvesting, voter intimidation, vote sales, and
enabling non citizens to vote. So basically there's been a
legislative process, and I want you to know that none
of these laws have been passed with the approval of
the state, the people of the state of California. None

(01:43:51):
of these laws that have been passed in the last
four to six years, whether it has to do with
elections or other things, have had the approval of the
majority of people in the state.

Speaker 16 (01:44:00):
And I don't see how under this bill, same day
voter registration can work with the process that the Secretary
of State now has to verify those people that register
to vote. The county sends that information overnight to the
Secretary of State's office. They verify them through the DMB
and the Social Security Administration records and the Office of

(01:44:23):
Vital Statistics and the statewide voter registration list, and if
that's validated, the information is then put on the active
voter list and they don't have to even show their
idea when they go to vote because they're already on
the active list and their identification has been matched to
existing records. However, if there's a duplicate, they send that

(01:44:47):
back to the counties to resolve and the verification process.
If they're unable to validate that voter registration by looking
at those databases like DMB or Social Security, then they
a also have the county reach out to that person
to try to verify them. Well, that process can't take
place if voter registration is on the same day as election.

(01:45:10):
The other thing that the Secretary of State does with
regards to verifying, and this is that they're a member
of the Electronic Registration Information Center, and that only happens
about every sixty days. Is that they upload their voter
rolls and they check them against twenty other states that
are participating. They check them against the Social Security Death Index,

(01:45:31):
They check them against the US Postal Service National Change
of Address database in an effort to identify deceased individuals.

Speaker 7 (01:45:40):
The third killer is part of the blueprint. So you've
got voter ill mismanagement, legislation, and the third killer election process, say,
the lack of training and the election laws rebuilt in
chaos of the poll We've seen anything from co workers
not knowing what to do to twenty sixteen actual criminal behavior,
sons threatening citizens if they don't vote their way, that

(01:46:03):
they know where their families live. People pulling out ballots
and going through them and putting in the boxes accordingly,
who are not connected to CERCO states. So what we've
documented the polls is absolute lawlessness of our electoral process.

Speaker 31 (01:46:17):
There are one hundred thousand small local elections every single year,
and those small elections control hundreds of billions of dollars
in taxpayer tax allocation. There's this sort of network of
local jobbers and some of these guys that are like
little subcontractors. They work out of their home. Some of
them are really kind of dodgy guys with criminal records,

(01:46:38):
you know. And I mean this is one been one
of my projects, is to identify some of these people
and so there is an infrastructure in place. And I
really think that when they talk about having a good
ground game, part of the good ground game means knowing
how to access some of those local fixers.

Speaker 8 (01:46:57):
Yep.

Speaker 32 (01:46:57):
My name is Tony Dane and I'm a nationwide pollster.
I've done polling for Ron Paul for president. I've done
polling for Tom with Clintock for Congress. I've pulled issues
throughout the United States. I've been doing this since nineteen
ninety seven. We were doing exit polling, which is basically
calling the people who already voted and asking them how

(01:47:19):
they voted. Now that we don't ask them quite that way.
We have certain ways of the way we asked the
question so we could elicit an answer, but by calling
the people who actually voted, those poll numbers usually tend
to be without margin of error.

Speaker 33 (01:47:32):
We've seen it happen when you compare exit polls, which
are generally accurate to within one percent, with the electronic outcome.
There are huge variations that we have documented, many dozens
of different things that they have done over the years.

Speaker 34 (01:47:48):
According to The Washington Post, early evening exit polls pointed
to a decisive win for Kerry.

Speaker 16 (01:47:55):
Associated Press they were feeding numbers into us, and then
suddenly those numbers changed and.

Speaker 17 (01:48:02):
Hundreds of thousands of votes shifts in the primary.

Speaker 32 (01:48:07):
We pulled the Republican primary, and our numbers was right,
you know, with straight to the percentage accurate. In the general, UH,

(01:48:29):
I was pulling several races, both Republican and Democrats.

Speaker 19 (01:48:33):
We're pulling county wide races. We're pulling the US Senate race.

Speaker 4 (01:48:37):
UH.

Speaker 32 (01:48:38):
And one of the things that did not look right
in Clark County is I was off on every single
race by the same percentage.

Speaker 19 (01:49:01):
And that is a mathematical improbability.

Speaker 32 (01:49:04):
Yeah, if you're going to blow an election, you're gonna
blow one, but you're gonna be right on the majority.
And the fact that everyone was off by the same
percentage just has never been done before. I've never seen
that happen. There's only one thing that you can account
it for, is there's some kind of fraud going on
where because you cannot pull fraud.

Speaker 19 (01:49:23):
You can pull up live human beings.

Speaker 34 (01:49:25):
What happens with the vote is way off five, ten,
as much as twelve percent from the exit polling and
the actual survey. These statistical numbers are impossible.

Speaker 14 (01:49:37):
Well, and it was actually working in the Miami Day
Elections department. She was a volunteer opening up mail in ballot.

Speaker 13 (01:49:43):
When she noticed that some people didn't vote all the
way down the ballot for the mayor, she started checking
boxes for them for her favorite candidate.

Speaker 22 (01:49:50):
We also had concerns with the election department. We were
turning over to them all of these lists of people
with the proof that they don't exist or don't live there,
and they virtually weren't doing anything to remove those from
the list. And we had all these nine thousand envelopes
piled up on the desk for the viewers to be
able to see the proof of the returns that we received.

(01:50:13):
And then eventually these have been turned over to the
as far as we're understanding, to the Justice Department for investigation.

Speaker 31 (01:50:22):
In Riverside County, the DA down there actually reported it
to the FEDS and said our voter database was hacked
and adjusted and they changed somebody went in and literally
changed people's parties so that when they tried to vote,
they couldn't vote. And the same thing happens when people

(01:50:43):
show up to vote at the polling place and are
told they already voted. This is not like, oh, you
accidentally forgot you got an abb to deep ollot. This
is somebody voted for you. This is serious. Somebody basically
did identity theft to vote in your name and hoped
that you would never show up to vote.

Speaker 4 (01:51:03):
To take a look at the system and say, what
is there about the system that opens the doors to
this kind of behavior, and what can we do? What
recommendations can we make to states and local governments in
order to close those doors so that they can protect
the votes of their vote.

Speaker 3 (01:51:18):
One of the biggest vulnerabilities also is the fact that
while it's illegal for non citizens to register and vote,
it's really an honor system.

Speaker 26 (01:51:28):
Back in twenty thirteen, the New York City Department of
Investigations sent undercover officers to polling places to try to
vote as either dead people or felons or people who
don't live in the right district, and it worked about
ninety seven percent of the time, according to a report
by the National Review.

Speaker 21 (01:51:43):
What distinguishes computerized voting systems from traditional systems that the
consequences of compromise can be so much more severe. Tampering
with an old fashioned ballot box can affect a few
hundred votes at most, but injecting a virus into a
single computerized voting machine can potentially affect an entire election.

Speaker 35 (01:52:02):
I figured out how to make a slightly different computer
program that just before the close of the polls, it
shifts some votes around from one candidate to another. And
I wrote that computer program onto a memory chip like this.
And now to hack a voting machine you have to
get seven minutes alone with it with a screwdriver.

Speaker 19 (01:52:23):
You're breaking a loan.

Speaker 34 (01:52:25):
Yeah, I'm doing fast, so you actually so what are
you doing?

Speaker 8 (01:52:31):
So?

Speaker 36 (01:52:32):
Right here, I'm taking out the old chip that has
a legitimate computer program that adds up the votes the
right way. Now I put in the fake program that
transfers votes from one candidate to another.

Speaker 37 (01:52:40):
The memory card slot is really all that's needed to
introduce malicious software on the machine. Alex over here, who
has modest locksmithing skills, is able to pick it in
under ten seconds.

Speaker 7 (01:52:56):
I'm picking a lock.

Speaker 8 (01:52:58):
Our study shows that criminal who can inject malicious software
into this voting machine can control how the votes are tallied.
His malicious software can steal votes, and it can cover
its tracks so that the theft cannot be detected.

Speaker 17 (01:53:15):
I was part of the team that did the first
hands on study of any electronic voting machine used in
the US in twenty sixteen. We saw this form of
attack across at least twenty one states. Researchers have found
dozens of critical vulnerabilities about US voting machines. In every

(01:53:36):
single case, they have found vulnerabilities that would let someone
inject malicious software and change election data every single case.

Speaker 34 (01:53:49):
You can't make voting machines as vulnerable. There is no
system in the world, none, that cannot.

Speaker 27 (01:53:55):
Be acted well.

Speaker 36 (01:53:56):
The problem with somebody's computerized electronic voting machines, there's a
computer in them.

Speaker 33 (01:54:02):
You cannot verify an electronic voting machine.

Speaker 32 (01:54:05):
There is no reason to trust a touchscreen or DRA
system with or without a paper trail.

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
Period.

Speaker 35 (01:54:11):
You can hack the paper trails as easily as you
can the internal numbers.

Speaker 31 (01:54:15):
Now, California has a huge, disproportionate, crazy number of provisional
ballots These are ballots when somebody goes to the polling
place and they say, well, we think you already voted,
or we don't know if you're in the list.

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
And you.

Speaker 31 (01:54:28):
Fill it out and they'd hit check later and you
don't know whatever happened. Well, one of the things we
found they had hundreds of thousands of those is that
in California, they stated to us they don't ever need
to account for those, because we wanted to know, Okay,
that's fine, of those provisional ballots. We want to know
who voted, who got provisional ballots, and which ones were

(01:54:50):
counted and which ones weren't, and you know, stuff like that,
because they have to account for their This is a
basic accounting. And they said, well, we don't need to
out and in fact, it's against the law for us
to account for our provisionals. Well, now there's an opening
you can drive a mac truck through, because they have

(01:55:10):
to give you an idea. Provisional ballots are usually like
one tenth of one percent of the votes in most places,
Like I'll go to a place that has six hundred
thousand voters and they'll have like five you know, California
has like hundreds of thousands of these things, and to say, well,
they didn't need to account for them is uh. Again,
it's just one of those areas where we need to

(01:55:32):
get tougher and we need to raise the bar.

Speaker 38 (01:55:36):
They trained us, so if we saw a bus or
a large kind of you know, airport type van pull
up and load people off and then load them back
on and then leave, we'd call in with the license
plate number and the exact time that they started rolling again.
And the methodology was that they showed up six minutes
later at a location that was six minutes away. We

(01:55:59):
knew for a fact that they hadn't offloaded the people
and onloaded new legitimate voters, so they weren't actually helping
people who lack transportation get to the polls. They were
committing voter fraud. You know, a bus that met this
requirement and they pull up and then interestingly enough, they're
not doing anything.

Speaker 2 (01:56:18):
They open the door.

Speaker 38 (01:56:19):
So I jump in and I say to them, I say,
I just noticed, I have I have it a good
authority that this bus just left from voting at this
precinct just six minutes ago. I gave him the precinct
in the location, and I said, if you're here to
vote a second time, that's a crime. Now, if I'm
mistaken and you didn't actually just cast a vote there,
but you're here just to cast your vote for the

(01:56:41):
first time and in your name, then by all means
do that. That's not a crime. You have every right
to vote once in your name. But if this is
your second time voting and you just voted this so
other precinct. I don't know if you committed a crime
there or not, but the second vote is absolutely a crime.
And I want you to understand. I'm here to make
sure the laws followed, and I will be reporting you
if I have reason to believe, and blah blah blah.

(01:57:02):
And but you know, there's people at this point, you know,
trying to set somebody shut up and get off the bus.
And one guy tried to kind of get rough with me,
but I'm six', three so he didn't have a lot
of luck with. That but WHEN i, finished right and,
SAY i got off the, bus AND i kind of
half expected people to get off the bus behind me
and go vote with their little slip of, paper WHICH
i saw a couple of. Them they had names written
on them the. Door but the, door the bus to

(01:57:23):
the door shuts and they begin a conversation WHICH i
could not, overhear BUT i could tell they were having
an animated. Conversation and then after about three or four,
minutes the bus just rolls. Away they didn't get out
and vote the second or third or fourth. Time and
my and we were doing this all over the, place
and eventually what we found was the bus is stopped.

Speaker 39 (01:57:42):
Rolling there is a lot of voter, fraud only a
small part is. Caught you can go to The Heritage
foundation's website and you can find their twelve hundred and
ninety six cases of people convicted of voter fraud in recent.
Years but that's only scratches the, surface because you, know
like insider trading in the stock market or, taxiva you,
know we only catch a small percentage of the, People

(01:58:03):
so it's the tip of the.

Speaker 38 (01:58:04):
Iceberg usually their proof for it's not real is there's
not very many convictions for. It SO i guess my
question would, be is are the only crimes that are
real the ones for which they're. Convictions so like if
someone breaks in their house and steals all their, stuff
if they never find the person and convict, THEM i
guess we assume it was a fake. Crime it didn't actually.

(01:58:25):
Happen their stuff wasn't, stolen they didn't lose all their,
property and they're not entitled to an insurance claim because
it's didn't.

Speaker 34 (01:58:33):
Happen there's no.

Speaker 39 (01:58:34):
Conviction we can do things to prevent a lot of
the voter. Fraud voter fraud is a lot like shoplifting
in a. STORE a retail expert will tell you if
you do three things in a, store put up a
camera even if there's no one watching, it have a
security guard even if they have a, sleep have a
sign that says shop LIFs as we. Prosecuted you can

(01:58:54):
cut shoplifting by thirty five or forty. Percent the reason
is there are a lot of people in our society
that will do something if they think there's zero, risk
if they think no one is ever going to, watch
they'll do. Something but if there's even a little bit of,
risk they think there's a chance someone is, watching they
won't do. It and that's what the voter integrity movement

(01:59:15):
is all. About in, part it's to improve the laws
and make sure that states don't adopt laws like vote,
harvesting which is a. Disaster in terms of encouraging. Fraud
we can reduce the number of people who will try
this if we show that we care and that someone is.

Speaker 40 (01:59:31):
Watching, primarily what we've been concerned with at this location
is the extraordinary number of provisional ballots being turned in
to the point where they had to call and get
an extra box to house them.

Speaker 4 (01:59:45):
In and that is far more than you would.

Speaker 10 (01:59:48):
Expect we think the spirit of laws not being, implemented
but the letter of the law they are following for
the most. Part i'll have to say that for the most,
part we don't do anything.

Speaker 34 (02:00:03):
Else UNLESS i see something make, notes and we make.

Speaker 40 (02:00:06):
Notes seas over here is where people sit and write
out the provisional ballots.

Speaker 1 (02:00:14):
Everyday where you see a blue, envelope that's what they're.

Speaker 2 (02:00:17):
Doing there's another one going out, now so just watch
those blue.

Speaker 23 (02:00:22):
Envelopes it's interesting to note that there's empty booths there
for regular. Ballots this is all. Provisional that those are
empty and these are.

Speaker 1 (02:00:41):
Busy does that tell you a story
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