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Speaker 1 (00:18):
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(00:40):
Radio show, and I'm Rick Chrader, coming to you from
the Myplus studio of the a WIN Television Network. And
joining me today as my guest co host is a
man who's a very good friend of ours, Frank Nuh.
He serves as the editor chief of the New York
Analysis of Policy and Government. And you know what, if

(01:00):
you find liberty and freedom important, Frank is a very
good friend of yours also. And Frank, welcome back, Welcome
back to Conservative Commandos.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Rick, thanks so much for that great introduction. I'm coming
to you from New York City, where the weather is
as cold as a mayor's heart.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh yeah, Mayor Mundane's everything that has been promised, at
least not promised by himself, were by his cohorts, cohorts.
But everything that anyone on the right has said about
him surely come is coming true. It was amazing, And Frank,

(01:38):
we didn't you and I didn't intend to start out
talking about your Remember let's do that. You know, here's
a guy when you got sixteen inches of snow about
a week ago in New York City called for volunteers
to go out and shovel But oh yeah, you had
to have two forms of identification and a Social Security card.
Now you need that, Frank, to volunteer to shovel snow,

(01:58):
but you don't need that to go to vote.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
The hypocrisy is unbelievable, and in fact, in Congress this
even continues. When they took the vote on the Save
America Act. Of course, people had to check in with
identification cards to get into their positions in Congress to vote.
But of course the same people who demand that that
safeguard be enacted for Congress say, you just don't need
it for voting, right.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
The Save A Mark Act, the Save Act has been
kicked around for a couple of months in Congress. It
seems like it's a few Republicans that are actually holding
it up. They're afraid of the nuclear option. They don't
want to use it. I guess they fear that if
the Democrats ever got back in power, that they'd use it.

(02:41):
But I think that this needs to be done. Frank,
We've got to pass the Save Act. If we don't
get it passed, our future elections are definitely in jeopardy.
And whatever the Democrats are going to do, the Democrats
are going to do regardless of what the Republicans do.
So if they do in control of Congress, they're going

(03:01):
to use a nucular option to pass the things that
they want. And I don't see that there's much well.
I ran right now is a very big issue, but
as far as the future of our elections go, there's
never been any bigger deal than the Save Act. And
I think that Republicans got to get off the time
and get this thing done well.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
The Republicans are famous for bringing water balloons to a gunfight,
and when it comes to this particular issue, though, let's
be blunt. The only reason to be against the Save
Act is if you want to preserve your right to
cheat on elections, and this has been the Democrat platform
for a very long time.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
The entire open border was involved in that.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
The Democrats know that on issue by issue basis, whether
you're looking at Pew research or anything else, the Democrats
tend to lose on a one by one issue basis,
but they do much better in elections than they do
based on the one by one issue analysis. And one
of the reasons for that, of course, is absolutely correct cheating.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Well, there's no other reason not to want not to
want the say that past other than you you find
it is a definite advantage that people don't have to
show voter ide that people can basically just show up
to vote. I'll tell you what, Frank, I've seen this
in person in twenty sixteen when I went down to

(04:20):
vote in the presidential election. And by the way, I
was voting in a very small district at the time,
a township of a few thousand people, where just about
everybody knows everyone else. Well, when I went to go
and vote, there was about ten people in the firehouse.
Where are we going to vote? Half of those people,

(04:43):
half of those people, Frank, were given provisional balots because
they were not on the voter rolls. And by the way,
I didn't speak to him personally but overhearing they were
having a very difficult time with the English language. So
frank here you got a handful of people showing up

(05:04):
at a very small district, a very small polling place
to vote, and they're not even on the royals, but
they were given provisional ballots. Who knows, who knows if
those provisional ballots were counted or not.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, that's exactly right. And you know you've seen this
time and time again. We're seeing now far too late,
that there was significant cheating in the state of Georgia.
This is being revealed just now now the election is over,
long over, another election has taken place. But it's important
to rectify these things before they become apparent in the
next election as well. What we store in Georgia, And

(05:41):
let's remember this recond The Democrats often say, well, even
if you can find a handful of people who are
voting illegally, what difference does it make. Well, the fact
is a handful of people in many states can make
the difference between that state's electoral votes going to candidate
A or to candidate B. Sure, we've seen very tight
elections and so a few people can really make a

(06:02):
world of difference. But let's look at other ways the
Democrats are cheating. Can a Republican ever win again? In
California they have ballot harvesting, which means that every registered Democrat,
illegally or illegally is gonna wind up casting a vote
whether they want to or not, because that's what ballot
harvesting does. So there are schemes all around to get
illegal votes counted and making a huge difference on a

(06:25):
state by state basis.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Well, it's not just suit the candidate what candidate gets elected,
but it also has to do with policeason. I'll bring
up Minnesota back of them voting for Obamacare. Remember Al
Franken versus Norm Coleman and Minnesota where the senator for

(06:48):
Senate and at the close of election night Coleman was ahead.
But each day more and more ballots keep turning up
for Al frank and some in the trunk of cars,
some in boxes, some in bags. And just as soon
as they got enough votes in to get Franken over
the goal line, they could have said, oh now we're

(07:10):
gonna stop counting. Now. The ramification of that was frank
when they voted for Obamacare, who was the deciding vote?
That has given us Obamacare, the sabatross around her neck
for all these many years. Well it was Alf Franken. So,
so it's policies, programs, bills that get passed, frank because

(07:33):
of illegal voting. That volte should have been stopped the
election night. Uh, those other ballots that came in, there
was no line of control. No one knows where there's
ballots came from. They just showed up and like I said,
in the trunks of cars and boxes and bags, and
they were all counted in. Most of those votes that

(07:56):
came in after election night were for Alf Franken.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
So I recalled being on the air election night in
the year for the two thousand election, twenty twenty election,
and when it was about one o'clock one thirty in
the morning, and I recalled the group I was with.
We called it for President Trump. Because the polling places
were closed, the votes were be encountered. We woke up
the next morning to found out at three o'clock in

(08:21):
the morning boxes of votes were found under desks right
after the poll Inspectors were kicked out because.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
There was a leaky pipe. In one instance turned.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Out not to be a leaky pipe turned out to
be those boxes of ballots run there just to make
sure that the Democrat candidate was over the top. So
the cheating that's been going on in American elections is ridiculous.
And by the way, this isn't just, you know, a
one jurisdiction thing. This isn't the joke about you got
to move to Chicago because just because you die, you don't.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Lose your right to vote.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
This is a nationwide problem right now, and it's administered
on a nationwide level.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Well, Frank, I remember that election night also because you
were with us here in the conscerent, the commanders here
or the AUN network, and I can remember you were
the first one to sound the alarm that hey, something
fishy is going on here. So I got to give
that one to you. Frank, Hey, Frank, before we do
take our first break and want to just switch gears
a little bit. It's been a couple of days. It's

(09:17):
been a couple of days since the firing of Christine Nome.
Some people say that while she did a very good
job while she was a Secretary of Homeland Security, after all,
the border got closed, people are not coming in here.
Other people did not like the job that Christie nom
was doing. She supposedly there was a lot of infighting.

(09:40):
There was a lot of other goings, ones that weren't hostile.
You know, there is alleged affairs that were going on,
and I just wanted to get your take on the
Christy Numb situation.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Christy did do a good job in the opening faces
of her administration at Homeland Security. The border was closed.
That was a remark makable achievement. You can't take that
away from her. I assume, however, in the calculus of
the people who do these sort of things, that she
became a political liability. Whether it was mostly for a
blowback on what happened in Minneapolis. So I guess from

(10:14):
that point on, even though her work was good, but
she did become a political liability, and it was probably
looking for a way to have her meet the exit
door one way or the other.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
All right, Well, the allegations that have been made against
her are the fact that she spent two hundred million
dollars on an ad campaign where basically she was the star.
There was also talk that there was a lot of
infighting in the Department of Homeland Security that she couldn't

(10:44):
get along with the FBI. She couldn't get along with Ice.
There's also allegations of an affair between herself and Krey Lorendowski,
and so are those are the reasons. But the real
Toper rank was when she went to Congress the other
day and she was questioned about this two hundred million
dollar ad campaign. She said that, oh yeah, she had

(11:07):
the go the go from President Donald Trump. Now, President
Trump said he knew nothing about it. I don't think
you you lie about Donald Trump and expect to have
your job too long to you, Frank.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Again, I don't know what we said in private between
Christine Noman president Trump, so we're not gonna know how
that one really went down. But clearly she was a
political liability. They had to find an exit for her.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
All right, Frank is talking about exits. We got one
right here. We have to take a break, and this
is the Conservative Commando's Radio show with Rick Trader and
our very special guest, says Frank Bernuccio. He is the
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(11:53):
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Speaker 1 (14:49):
And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commanders Radio
Show with your truly Rick Trader and our very special
guest co host today, and that is Frank Fernuccio, who's
the president of the New York Analysis Analysis of Policy
of Government. And Frank I keep I promised you a
long time ago. If we have you one enough times.

(15:10):
I'm going to get that down right, and I'm working
on a Harper's problem is that we have not had
you one enough in most recent times. Right, Well, let's
go on to talking about protecting the US infrastructure. Now
there are senators out there, Scott Rubio, Cotton, Roger Marshall
have introduced the Protect America Power Infrastructure Act. Let's talk

(15:32):
about this. And what what is this Protect America Power
Infrastructure Act all about?

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, it might startle our viewers to understand that some
of the most basic equipment that we're using in really
key areas of our infrastructure, water, electricity, and so forth
were made in China.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
And of course we all know the concept of.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Back doors in this equipment that if we had a
dispute with China trying to can simply turn this stuff off. Now,
over the years, you would I've talked about other types
of threatstore infrastructure, an E ANDP attack by for example,
knocking out all power structures in the United States. This
is yet another way that the Chinese can look at
us and simply say we're turning off your water, We're

(16:13):
turning off your electricity. Well, Senator Scott Ruby, of course
has gone on to be Secretary of State, Cotton, Marshall
and so forth have introduced this Protect American Infrastructure Act,
which simply says we can't use equipment from China in
these crucial areas. And the mystery about all of this
is that why this has come to this point and
why we have to have legislation to say that you

(16:33):
can't do it. This is like saying your enemy is
going to be the guard that's your gate. It's insane
to think that we have this equipment here and it's
long overdue that it's changed.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Well, Frank, we're talking about things, as you say, electric infrastructure,
and a lot of people say, well, we deal with
China all the time. We buy things from China all
the time. But if you recall doing the Wuhan flu fraud,
as I refer to it, China, I'm threatened to cut
off medicines coming into our country. So you know, Frank,

(17:06):
if they're going to threaten to cut off medicines coming
into our country, it doesn't go beyond the imagination to
think that they could also do the same thing by
shutting off equipment that they assaulted us are refusing to
sell his parts to fix it.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I had dinner a long time ago with a one
of the most noted generals in the Pentagon, and then
off the record conversation, I asked him, what's the one
thing that keeps you up at night? And he said
that there's Chinese chips in several the most crucial areas
of our infrastructure and even in the military. This is
an act of negligence that should have been addressed a

(17:44):
long time ago. Now, according to the Trump administration, when
it comes to some things like port structures, particularly at
the Panama Canal, he's moved to kick the Chinese out
of that area. God knows, something that should have been
done ages ago. But finally it has been done. We
have to continue the job, Rick. We have to make
sure that those electrical units that are powering the country,

(18:04):
powering our water supply and so forth are clean, clean
of enemy chips, clean of enemy equipment. And I use
the word enemy advisably. I'm kind of tired, Rick of
kind of soft footing around about clolling China a pure
competitor or a potential adversary.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
They're the enemy.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
There's the enemy, and it's time we acted like that.
And to have let the Chinese in under our noses
like this buying farmland selling US equipment that runs our electricity.
It's an act of insanity and negligence. And finally we're
paying attention to it.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well, this protect America power. If this structure rack has
some other relements to it, One is provide the Secretary
of Energy the authority to pre prove energy vendors and
equipment which are deemed secure. Why do you think that's important, Frank.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Well, because you assume that these energy infrastructure pieces are
not all federalized. A state, my friend, the Apple might
decide to go a Carney Chinese contractor, even if the
Fed say we don't want that to happen. But a
state can do it, a city could do it. And
so clearly the Secretary of Energy should have the capability
of saying, no, this isn't right, We're not going to
let you do it. It's a violation of federal procedure,

(19:15):
of federal law. The same thing probably with the sale
of farmland should go on as well. Now, I don't
pretend to be an expert at all farmland. Growing up
in midsom Manhattan, clearly I'm not an agricultural expert. But
the fact of matter is, I can't imagine under what
auspices farmland, particularly near American Air Force Bass was being
sold to the Chinese. We need to relook at this

(19:35):
thing over and over and over again and see what's happened.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Require the Secretary Energy to identify existing bulk power systems
which pose an under risk on a security and resilience
of critical electrical infrastructures in the United States. Now, Frank,
we've already got I don't know, millions of solar panels
across the country. Most of these solar panels were built

(20:02):
in China. We have windmills up Buku. Most of these
windmills are built in China. Could we already be facing
a problem? I mean, could these windmills. Could these solar
panels be vulnerable to some sort of Chinese attack that
maybe we're not even aware of.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Now, No, that's very possible.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
And of course we found out that some of our
friends in Europe as well have found out that the
most innocent looking piece of Chinese purchased equipment. There are
things that they can relay information back to China. Many
years ago, Rick, there was a company in Texas that
simply sold telephones, telephones that you'd see in any office
where you have many people on the same similar lines. Well,

(20:44):
it was found out years later that there were Chinese
information chips in those telephones. And as one expert in
that high tech company would phone another expert in that
company saying, hey, you know, do we have any progress
on this project? Turns out they were leading then relaying
the information right back to China. So the Chinese in
some cases knew that information before the other engineers in

(21:05):
that same company did.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Senator Scott also introduced to Bill A mid reports that
home security cameras by a company called Lorex, which has
sold in many big box stores throughout the United States,
are quietly monitoring our homes, our homes. So, Frank, what
kind of information would be important to the Chinese coming

(21:29):
from the homes of everyday Americans like frankfnut Show and
Rick Drader.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Well maybe not every single home, but let's look at
if you have an engineer calling in some information about
his project. Do you have an airport calling it about
a problem and a weakness in one of their fields.
You can go anything your imagination can come up with
can relay information. Remember when you talk about espionage. You know,
it's not always like in the movies where there's a
secret document in one safe that has to be you know,

(21:58):
has to be drilled out or in one can. Sometimes
you put this stuff together piece by piece, by piece,
and the Chinese are remarkably good at doing that. There
is rick in the city of Shanghai, the equivalent of
an entire city block of building that large manned by
members of the Chinese People's Liberation Army, which does nothing
but twenty four hours a day, seven days a week,

(22:19):
fifty two weeks a year, but monitor these types of
this type of information, and they put it together very
very well. Now, with the advent of artificial intelligence, putting
that information together peace by piece is even easier.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
So there you see where the threat lies.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Well, Frank, and then sorry if I call you George,
I'm thinking of my full time co host, George Landrith.
But in twenty twenty, there is an executive order issue
to reduce the risk that entitles associated with the Chinese
Communist Party. But this was revoked, is revoked by Joe

(22:59):
Biden twenty one. Did he ever give any reason for
revoking this?

Speaker 3 (23:04):
No, he gave no reason.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
But we could all assume the fact that he and
his family got quite wealthy from Chinese investments or from
Chinese dealings, that we all know.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
What that's about.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
You know, we look at some of the strange things
that have gone on under democratic administrations in the twenty
first century. Howard Heaven's name, For example, did you have
a CIA chief who was once a member, were active
in the Communist Party USA?

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Years ago?

Speaker 2 (23:27):
You couldn't get a job as a postal employee if
you had a Communist background, And here we had John
Brennan who became chief of the CIA under the Obama administration.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Howard Heavens name? Did that happen?

Speaker 1 (23:39):
So, Frank, where is this bill sitting now to protect
American power, infrastructure app Where is it now? How important
is it to this administration? How fast can we see
this getting through Congress and getting the signature of Donald Trump?

Speaker 3 (23:58):
I wish I had the answer to that.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
I would assume when this administration took too cold and
we had a majority, significant majority in the United States
Senate and a slim majority, but at least a majority
in the United States Congress, I would have assumed at
that point that a lot of measures like this would
have gone through one, two, three. But we do know
there a been a number of defections from the Republican
Party and some of the things like this like uh

(24:21):
Massi for example, and others who simply didn't vote with
the majority, and so that's keeping it from getting out
of committee and moving forward.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Well, keep an eye on this and hopefully you'll help
us keep an eye on it, Frank for nudiew. Hey, Frank,
once again we are up against the clock and we
do have to take a break and you are listening
to and watching the Conservative Commandos with yours truly Ric
Trader in special guests. So is Frank Fernucio coming to
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(24:51):
AUN Television Network. Go nowhere, Frank, and I'll be back
with more news and information right after this break.

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Speaker 1 (27:45):
Welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos with special
guest host Frank Ernuccio, and you're Serley Rick Trader coming
to you from the My Pillow studios and My Store
studios of the AUN Television Network. You know, Frank get
conservative committed this radio show a lot of times is impromptu.
And actually we started this conversation today by mentioning your

(28:10):
mayor in New York, ma'am Dannire. I'll never get how
to correctly pronounce his name, but we mentioned this snow
Fiesco in New York. But that's not the only thing
that's gone wrong in your hometown, is it, Frank.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
And just to take one isolated example, there was an
incident in a local park, Tompkins Square Park down in
Lower Manhattan, and a brawl started with snowballs, but not
snowballs as you think of its kids throwing it. Snowballs
packed with shards of glass and ice, and a group
of thugs, not teenagers, but people in their late twenties

(28:46):
started throwing these things at local police who were on guard.
It was so serious that the cops had to abandon
the park. They were literally chased out of the park
by this mob. Two cops wound up in the hospital
with injuries to their face and neck. Well, the mayor
said this was nothing but a juvenile prank, just kids
being kids, just a snowball fight. The local police commissioner said,

(29:09):
when two cops go to the hospital, when cops can't
patrol a local park because the violence is so intense,
that's hardly a juvenile prank. The mayor stuck to his
guns and said, no, big deal, don't worry about it.
He didn't even visit the wounded cops in the hospital,
as has been the custom of mayors in New York
City for god knows how long. The lawlessness that started
there is continuing throughout the city. We already have a

(29:31):
district attorney, Alvin Bragg, who refuses to prosecute. And in fact,
when the police try to charge the thugs who threw
these ice glass laden snowballs at the cops, Alvin Bragg
declined to prosecute. So now we have cops being attacked,
being sent to the hospital, and the mayor says it's
snow big deal, and the district attorney says, nah, I'm

(29:53):
not going to prosecute. How far down. Can you go
on that ladder before utter chaos and absolute anarchy descend
upon on the city.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Well, Frank, one of these guys, in fact, was twenty
eight years old exactly, and so I don't consider that
a j've and all prank. You know, Frank, where was
it or when was it in America that respect for
the police has gone out the window? I mean, my gosh,
who would ever think of throwing a snowball at a cop?

(30:23):
I mean, you'd have to be stupid to do something
like that, at least back in my age, because that
would end you up in the back of a cop
car for sure. And I have a friend who has
whose daughter dates a New York City police officer, and
they're very frustrated, and he says a lot of times
they'll lock up somebody and they're out of jail before

(30:46):
the end of their shift. How much longer do you
think that the New York City Police Department are going
to put up with the actions of this mare before
there isn't actions taken by the police like a blue flue.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Or the fact that the police are simply going to
dwindle down to numbers that are too small to do
their job. In any kind of logical way. Let's look
at it. During Mayor Giuliani's time, I believe the maximum
number of cops was about forty two thousand. We have
about thirty five thousand now, and that number is going
to go down quicker and quicker and quicker through a
combination of retirements. The retirements are the most experienced police officers,

(31:22):
by the way, through not appropriating funds for a new
incoming class of police officers to replace those who are
leaving and for those who are just too disgusted and
want to give up and go to places not too
far from New York City where the pay and conditions
for police officers is so much higher, for example up
in Rockland County or in Long Island NASO in Suffolk
County NASA and Suffolk particularly, I think, pay very very well.

(31:45):
What happens then at that point where you have the
thugs who have taken over control.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Not just do you have thugs take in over control,
but this is putting the citizens of New York City
at risk in danger. Thucks start out with small things
like breaking windows or throwing ice falls. It escalates to robbery,
purse snatching, assaults, assaults, with knives and guns, there can

(32:16):
be no good that comes out of this.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Frank and one point, if this would say occurring in
rural Colorado, we know that urban Colorado, that's a problem.
Let's say urban Colorado, you would assume that most of
the people there had guns to protect themselves. In New
York City, it's almost impossible to get a gun permit.
So now that you've taken the police out of the equation,

(32:38):
when there's to police to actually patrol as they should,
and now you have a disarmed citizenry, the anarchy is obvious.
We've seen instances in the Five Burroughs where a mom
and pop grocery store a corner of deli is repeatedly
robbed out of frustration. The owner of the store how

(33:00):
gets his hand on a shotgun or a pistol or
anything like that. He's getting robbed, he whips out the
shotgun to protect himself. Maybe he doesn't even fire it.
Tell me how the story ends. Everyone knows the crook
or the would be crooked, is not punished at all,
but the store owner, who's only part of text itself
at his store, winds up in jail for owning a gun.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
It's ridiculous rank and always kind of boggles my mind
when I hear people say, well, we don't need weapons,
we've got police to protect us. And I want to
bring up this example of this shooting a week or
so ago down in Texas, where a guy who was

(33:40):
newly a US citizen took a gun, went to a
crowded area in Austin, Texas and started shooting people. The
police were there, Police were there fifty eight seconds after
the shooting started, but in that time three people were killed,
another fifty teen or eighteen were wounded. And again the

(34:02):
police were there in less than a minute. But this
guy was able to do such damage and such harm
in that little bit of time.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Great point, Rick, How many of these mass shootings have
we seen? And of course the outcry after his old
guns are terrible. But if there had been one person
in a school, in any kind of place where the
shootings take place, who was there, that whole tragedy wouldn't
have occurred at all. We talk about Sandy Hook, and
I know it's a terrible, terrible tragedy, but imagine if
there had been a couple of armed or one armed

(34:33):
school guard who could have taken this guy out, the
perpetrator around that tragedy never would have occurred.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Well, Frank, let's talk about some of the other Ma'm
Danny promises the community food stores. I think I heard
that he's looking for like three hundred million dollars to
do his study of the feasibility of these community food stores.
You know, Frank, he ran on this. This was one
of the major planks in his place. Don't you think

(35:01):
he would have that figured out before he got into
office and he wouldn't need all this money to figure
it out.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, because he figured it out, that figured out. It
probably doesn't work, and there's been examples around the country.
But of course that doesn't sound good to the voter.
So I'll promise this and I want to get in office.
Oh well, you know that study didn't work out, so
we really can't do it. The socialist left has lied
their way into power and just about every place where
they've existed agrarian reform in Cuba or in Latin America,

(35:31):
And of course once they get there, they're nothing but
a bunch of tinhorn dictators. This is a standard mo
for all the leftist socialists that we've seen from time immemorial.
Again even you know Soviet Union, Well, we're just gonna
overthrow Bizar, pull us out of war, and then we'll
have a really egalitarian society. And of course what happens,
You get a totally tyrannical leadership in Moscow. But this

(35:52):
isn't anything that should surprise us. It happens over and
over and over again. And not only talking about communist socialism,
let's talk of national socialism. Oh you don't want to
hear that name. National socialism is the full name for
the word Nazi.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
How about that one.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
A couple of speeches I've given I've opened up with that,
particularly with the younger crowd, and I've said, let's talk
about the different types of socialism, the Bolshevik socialism of
the Soviet Union or the national socialism of Adolf Helller.
And you hear in the audience, Oh, what way, No
Nazis they were fascist, they weren't socialist. No Nazi stood
for national socialist. And they came to office with the

(36:29):
same set of lies about everything that the Bolsheviks did, that,
the leftists in America did, that the agrarian reformers in
Cuba did, same story over and over.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Well, Frank when these students pick their eyeballs and tongue
up off the floor, what's their reaction to learning what
Nazi really means.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Well, at first it's now a campy and then you
go it's step by step, and you compare the actions
of the Nazis, and you compare things like, for example,
both the Nazis and the Bolsheviks wanted to ban gun control.
Both were antagonistic to Jews, Both were antagonistic to free enterprise.
One thing down the line, both were anti antagonistic towards families.

(37:11):
And you have to explain line by line the extraordinary
comparison between things like the Nazis and the Bolsheviks and
the agrarian reformers here in the Western hemisphere.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Rank I saw his study just the other day talking
about socialism. Roughly thirty six percent of the people in
this country would prefer socialism over capitalism. We and this
is this the this is going up and up and up.
It's not coming down to going this feeling that his

(37:42):
passion for socialism is going up and up and up.
And Frank I actually do believe a large part of
this increase in popularity of socialism is because of academia.
No fascists in college, teachers in high school. It's now
reaching down to the element minary schools touting the great

(38:04):
ideas as socialists.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
One of the most popular textbooks and used in academia
is Howard Zin's The People's History of the United States,
which is essentially a socialist version of American history. So
it's no surprising that we've had about two or three
generations that have been brought up on the myth of
socialism being good. And you know, it's unfortunate because I
think the young people are bright, but they're simply don't

(38:28):
have a font of knowledge, and they've been indoctrinated straight through.
And this doesn't start in college. This starts bright back
in high school and even in grammar school. So this
is one of the problems that we're facing. Republicans, unfortunately,
and those of us on the more conservative side of
the ledger far too often think of elections as something
that occurs every four years or every two years. But

(38:49):
the left believe that politics is something that occurs every
single day in every single avenue of our society. It's
straight up from school through entertainment, and that's their politics.
Those of us on the right simply don't buy that, unfortunately,
and so we're always at a disadvantage.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Well, Frank, if we really had teachers and profession and
professors who wanted to teach students what socialism is all about,
they should say, well, we're going to take half of
your grades. So if you expect an A, you're going
to get a C. And if you expected a C,
you're going to give a D. And we're going to
give it to a student who's going to get an

(39:27):
F now is going to get a D, R a C.
Let's see how they like it then. But maybe that's
too simple a formula for teaching what socialism really is.
Perfectly said, all right, Frank, we do got we do
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holding through that break. We as always appreciate your time. Men.
You have written another article experts are destroying local government. Well, Frank,
there's a lot of entities out there destroying local government.
But experts aren't. They supposed to be helping us here, Buddy.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Well, unfortunately depends what their expertise is in, and unfortunately
their expertise isn't pushing left wing ideology. There used to
be saying that everyone accepted left right, Democrat, Republican. There's
no Republican or Democrat way to pick up the garbage.
Used to be a mattra in local government, meaning that
you can have your points of view on all sorts
of issues. But when it came to basic city services,

(46:37):
basic government services, everyone was in the same boat. You
want the garbage to be picked up, You want the
police to do their job and capture the crooks and
the bad guys. You know, those are the basic things
we all agreed on. But over the years we've seen
people with so called expertise take over local government. And
their expertise, as I said before, is in pushing left
wing ideology. Let's look at how this is played out.

(47:00):
Let's go to California, the Palisades burned in that terrible,
terrible fire.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
The so called experts.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Decided, you didn't need to put enough money into your reservoir,
you didn't need enough money into keeping your fire department
in a good condition.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
No, they wanted to do things like.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
More low cost housing, more low cost benefits for illegal immigrants.
These are experts in ideology, not experts in running government.
Let's look at Chicago, overrun by crime, one of the
America's great cities, America's second city. In fact, left wing
ideologues who call themselves the expert in all academy would
agree that they're experts took over and Chicago is as

(47:39):
cesspool of crime. Look at New York in New York City,
now run by socialist mayor, was once one of the
cities that had the proudest municipal services. Now those services
are collapsing under their own weight. The mayor wants to
make transit free, which means it'll become a sleeping bag
basically for the homeless. He wants to reduce the size

(47:59):
of the police force and have experts in community relations takeover. Well,
that's not gonna work out so well. These experts are
ruining our city governments, and it is an absolute danger
to the American public, a danger that is immediate, not
just in a theoretical sense, not just in a financial sense,
but in everyday living sense. You will not be able

(48:20):
to get on a subway or bus and feel safe,
if you will not be able to walk the streets
feeling safe, and you're gonna watch your garbage pile up
because the experts have other things they want to do.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Right, there's a line in your article that really struck
me like a bolt of lightning. Is there any thought
process behind the vulnerable jihad against affordable, clean burning gas
power and equally affordable, non polluting nuclear power. And our friend,
our mutual friend, doctor Betsy McCoy right, Your electric bill

(48:53):
reveals a stark political divide. Red state residents are paying
less while bluestate gouged. There's citizens and businesses with exorbitant
electric rates. And why that was so impactful for me.
Frank was our new governor here in the state of

(49:14):
New Jersey. Mickey Wirliberg Scherl when she was running, When
she was running for governor, what she said was this
clean energy is going to cost you an arm and
a leg. But if you're a good person, you're going
to do it well. First of all, what's that say.
If you're a bad person, you're gonna want lower rates,

(49:36):
If you're a bad person, you're gonna want reliable electric.
But it wasn't just a Democrat party, Frank, This actually
started with Chris Christie. When Chris Christie closed down the
nuclear the Oyster Creek Nuclear Generating Station ten years ahead
of schedule. When other power plants were closed down by

(49:58):
Phil Murphy, about six or eight power plants, coal and
gas fire plants reduced the amount of energy that the
state of New Jersey could produce by forty percent. Now
we're getting forty percent of our energy from out of
state and we're paying a premium. People in New Jersey

(50:21):
are crying bloody murder now. But you know what, Frank,
elections have consequences. Many of these people voted for these
politicians with bad policies. Why, because the experts are telling
these politicians what to do. These experts are telling these
politicians If you don't do this, we're going to run

(50:42):
out of clean water, We're going to run out of
clean clean air. Everybody's going to get lung cancer.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah, let's take a troop abroad to see why these
policies work out in the long run. A couple of
decades ago, Germany was the industrial powerhouse of Europe. They
made a decision at that point to abandon coal, abandon oil,
abandon nuclear, and go to renewables. The German economy took
a nose dive and it's now one of the sick
men of Europe in terms of their economy. The same
thing is in store for any particular state that decides

(51:11):
to do that. Right next door to you in New Jersey.
I'm in New York and we decided to close down
the Shoreham nuclear plant way ahead of schedule. Now we're
looking at major shortages. We're talking about cutting down on
oil and gas. New Yorkers are paying an astronomical amount,
just like you are, for energy immediately because of those
very specific decisions. And by the way, the experts failed

(51:33):
to prove that oil and gas were polluting, particularly gas,
which is the cleanest of these fuels, and nuclear, which
is a clean fuel as well. So the experts, the climatologists,
who said the Earth was supposed to Oh, let's see
if I get this correct in my memory. Back in
nineteen eighty they said the Earth was going to freeze,
we were going into a new ice age. Well, that

(51:54):
didn't work out so well. And then they decide Earth
was going to warm up, and that every year after
that we heard that the Earth was going to start
burning up, that the temperature was going to rise, the
seas were going to boil. Well, we've heard that year
after year. Nothing ever happened.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
The experts.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Experts assured us it was going to happen. But now
it's been what forty years, and so far armageddon hasn't occurred.
But the experts still continue to stick to their guns
and they continue to push on us these ridiculous programs.
Let's take something a little bit sneaky as well. A
lot of these folks are in organizations that get a
lot of their funding from guess where China, and guess

(52:31):
where all those solar panels are made, China. Guess where
the wales are made?

Speaker 1 (52:35):
China.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Absolutely what a coincidence.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Frank, It amazes me every time the weather changes. And
by the way, the weather constantly changes. These experts that
say talk about climate change if they hate attention when
they went to grammar school and learned things like ice ages.
Over the last one hundred thousand years, there were four

(53:00):
major ice ages. It seems like about every twenty five
thousand years the Earth goes through an ice age. In fact,
the last one was about twelve thousand years ago, only
twelve thousand years ago, when North America was covered by
a sheet of ice all the way down to Princeton,
New Jersey. In some places that ice sheet was over
two miles thick. Now you know what, Frank, if we

(53:24):
human beings are causing global warming today, please tell me, Frank,
Please tell me what were they driving? How were they
heating their homes twelve thousand years ago that melted all
that ice.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Yeah, well, let's look at some actual data, treering data,
ice core samples and so forth. Those sorts of isolated
data shows that Earth was warmer at the time of
the Caesars. No, I don't think the Caesars were driving
gas power chariots, but you know that was what it was.
When the Norman Conquest occurred in England in ten sixty
six a d. There were crops being grown in southern

(53:56):
England that today can only be grown in the south
of France that direction, so it was warmer then. Of course,
in the mid Middle Ages we saw that there was
a little ice age. That's what all those currier and
ives occurred. Things curred, So we've been warming up from
that little ice age. So clearly earth temperature, Earth's climate

(54:17):
has warmed and cooled without the benefit of human intervention.
And yet the experts don't really want to talk about that,
do they.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Well, you know, Frank, it seems like whenever these experts
get involved and pull in their friends, the politicians, we
the people suffering. In your article you talk about New
York City. New York City has sought to impose fees
and other strategies quote unquote strategies aimed at reducing the
use of public vehicles. Unfortunately for commuters, there have been

(54:46):
no provisions for adequate alternatives means of transportations in New
York City. From what I understanding, they're jacking the tolls
up of the bridges and the tunnels. They also want
to charge people just to come into the city a
fee just to come into the city. When is when
are we the people going to say, well, if New

(55:07):
York isn't going to if New York is going to
be that way, I'm not going to do business there anymore.
I'm not going to go there to see a show,
I'm not going to go there to dinner. And of course,
right that doesn't benefit anyone. It certainly doesn't benefit the
businesses of New York. But if New York wants to
charge me every time I want to go to see

(55:30):
a show in New York, which occasionally Mary and I
used to like to do. We haven't done it for
a long time now because of the politics in New
York City. But if they want to charge me another
fee on top of what a cost to see a
play on Broadway, you know what, I'd rather sit home
and watch something on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yeah, I listen to the most illogical part of all
of this. They want to keep cars out of Manhattan, Okay,
but people still have to work. It's one of the
great engine of jobs.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Is for the region.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Indeed, well, so you're not going to take your car in.
But they haven't built any new subway lines. There's not
much in the way of improved bus lines. New York
City had rare mass transit many cases in the nineteen
thirties than it does today. Certainly in terms of freight.
There were freight lines that came directly into New York City.
They're gone. So you don't have your cars coming into

(56:24):
the city. You don't have any other transit options.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
What are you going to do?

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Simply pretend that you don't have to go to New
York City. Maybe get a job in your neighborhood. They
aren't there. Unfortunately, that's the type of logic that we
have to swallow from the experts.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Well, no, that, frank, there's an exit from these states
and cities like New York, like New York City, like
New Jersey, like California. And the people that are exiting
are the people that are paying the taxes. Every time
these experts tell the politicians, you've got to put in
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if you find liberty and freedom and important, Frank is
a very good friend of yours also, and Frank, welcome back,
Welcome back to Conservative Commandos.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Rick, thanks so much for that great introduction.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
I'm coming to you from New York City, where the
wather is as cold as a mayor's heart.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Oh Mayor Mondane's everything that has been promised, at least
not promised by himself, were by his co hosts cohorts,
But everything that anyone on the right has said about
I'm surely come is coming true. It was amazing. In Frank,

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we didn't you and I didn't intend to start out
talking about you. Remember, let's do that. You know, here's
a guy. When you got sixteen inches of snow about
a week ago in New York City called for volunteers
to go out and shovel but oh yeah, you had
to have two forms of identification and a Social Security card.
Now you need that, right, the volunteer to shovel snow,

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But you don't need that to go to vote.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Yeah, the hypocrisy is unbelievable, and in fact, in Congress
this even continues. When they took the vote on the
Save America Act. Of course, people had to check in
with identification cards to get into their positions in Congress
to vote. But of course the same people who demand
that that safeguard be enacted for Congress say, you just
don't need it for voting.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
The Save re Mark Act, the Save Act has been
kicked around for a couple of months in Congress. It
seems like it's a few Republicans that are actually holding
it up. They're afraid of the nuclear option. They don't
want to use it. I guess they fear that if
the Democrats ever got back in power, that they use it.

(01:04:08):
But I think that this needs to be done. Frank,
We've got to pass the Save Act. If we don't
get it passed, our future elections are definitely in jeopardy
and whatever the Democrats are going to do, the Democrats
are going to do regardless of what the Republicans do.
So if they do get in control of Congress, they're
going to use the nuclear option to pass the things

(01:04:30):
that they want. And I don't see that there's much well.
Iran right now is a very big issue, but as
far as the future of our elections go, there's never
been any bigger deal than the Save Act, and I
think that Republicans got to get off the dime and
get this thing done well.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
The Republicans are famous for bringing water balloons to a gunfight,
and when it comes to this particular issue, though, let's
be blunt. The only reason to be against the Save
Act is if you want to preserve your right cheat
on elections, and this has been the Democrat platform for
a very long time.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
The entire open border was involved in that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
The Democrats know that on issue by issue basis where
you're looking at Pew research or anything else, the Democrats
tend to lose on a one by one issue basis,
but they do much better at elections than they do
based on the one by one issue analysis. And one
of the reasons for that, of course, is absolutely correct cheating.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Well, there's no other reason not to want not to
want the say that past other than you. You find
it is a definite advantage that people don't have to
show voter ID, that people can basically just show up
to vote. I'll tell you what, Frank, I've seen this
in person in twenty sixteen when I went down to

(01:05:47):
vote in the presidential election. And by the way, I
was voting in a very small district at the time,
a township of a few thousand people, where just about
everybody knows everyone else. When I went to go and vote,
there was about ten people in the firehouse. Where are

(01:06:07):
we going to vote? Half of those people, half of
those people, Frank, were given provisional ballots because they were
not on the voter rolls. And by the way, I
didn't speak to him personally, but overhearing they were having
a very difficult time with the English language. So, Frank,
here you got a handful of people showing up at

(01:06:31):
a very small district, a very small polling place to vote,
and they're not even on the royals, but they were
given provisional ballots. Who knows, Who knows if those provisional
ballots were counted or not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Yeah, that's exactly right. And you've seen this time and
time again. We're seeing now far too late, that there
was significant cheating in the state of Georgia. This is
being revealed just now now the election is over, long over,
another election has taken place. It's important to rectify these
things before they become apparent in the next election as well.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
What we store in Georgia, And let's remember this reckon.
The Democrats often say, well, even.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
If you can find a handful of people who are
voting illegally, what difference does it make.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Well, the fact is a handful of people in.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Many states can make the difference between that state's electoral
votes going to candidate A or to candidate B. Sure,
we've seen very tight elections and so a few people
can really make a world of difference. But let's look
at other ways the Democrats are cheating. Can a Republican
ever winn again? In California they have ballot harvesting, which
means that every registered Democrat, illegally or illegally, is going

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to wind up casting a vote whether they want to
or not, because that's what ballot harvesting does. So there
are schemes all around to get illegal votes counted and
making a huge difference on a state by state basis.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Well, it's not just suit the candidate what candidate gets elected,
but it also has to do with policies. And I'll
bring up Minnesota back of them voting for Obamacare. Remember
Al Franken versus Norm Coleman and Minnesota for the Senator

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for Senate, and at the close of election night, Coleman
was ahead. But each day more and more ballots keep
turning up for Al frank and some in the trunks
of cars, some in boxes, some in bags. And just
as soon as they got enough votes in to get
Franken over the goal line, they could have said, oh

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now we're gonna stop counting.

Speaker 19 (01:08:38):
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Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
The ramification of that was frank when they voted for Obamacare.
Who was the deciding vote that has given us Obamacare
the sabatross around her neck for all these many years,
Well it was Al Franken. So it's policies, programs, bills
to get passed frank because of illegal voting, that foss

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should have been stopped the election night. Those other ballots
that came in, there was no line of control. No
one knows where the ballots came from. They just showed up,
like I said, in the trunks of cars and boxes
and bags, and they were they were all counted in.
Most of those votes that came in after election night

(01:09:25):
were for Al Franken.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
So I recalled being on the air election night in
the year for the two thousand election, twenty twenty election,
and when it was about one o'clock one thirty in
the morning, and I recalled the group I was with.
We called it for President Trump. Because the polling places
were closed, the votes were be encountered. We woke up
the next morning to found out at three o'clock in

(01:09:48):
the morning boxes of votes were found under desks right
after the poll Inspectors were kicked out because there was
a leaky pipe. In one instance, turned out not to
be a leaky pipe, turned out to be those boxes
ballots run there just to make sure that the Democrat
candidate was over the top. So the cheating that's been
going on in American elections is ridiculous. And by the way,

(01:10:09):
this isn't just, you know, a one jurisdiction thing. This
isn't no joke about you got to move to Chicago
because just because you die, you don't lose your right
to vote. This is a nationwide problem right now, and
it's administered on a nationwide level.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Well, Frank, I remember that election night also because you
were with us here in the Conservative commanders here or
the AUN network, and I can remember you were the
first one to sound the alarm that hey, something fishy
is going on here. So I got to give that
one to you, Frank. Hey, Frank, before we do take
our first break and want to just switch gears a
little bit. It's been a couple of days. It's been

(01:10:44):
a couple of days since the firing of Christy Noan.
Some people say that while she did a very good
job while she was a Secretary of Homeland Security, after all,
the border got closed, people are not coming in here.
Other people did not like the job that Christie Numb
was doing. She supposedly there was a lot of infighting.

(01:11:07):
There was a lot of other going zones that weren't hostile.
You know, there is alleged affairs that were going on.
And I just wanted to get your take on the
Christie Numb situation.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Christino did do a good job in the opening phases
of her administration at Homeland Security. The border was closed.
That was a remarkable achievement. You can't take that away
from her. I assume, however, in the calculus of the
people who do these sort of things, that she became
a political liability. Whether it was mostly for a blowback
on what happened in Minneapolis. So I guess from that

(01:11:41):
point on, even though her work was good, but she
did become a political liability, and it was probably looking
for a way to have her meet the exit door
one way or the other.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
All right, Well, the allegations that have been made against
her are the fact that she spent two hundred million
dollars on an now campaign where basically she was the star.
There was also talk that there was a lot of
infighting in the Department of Homeland Security, that she couldn't

(01:12:11):
get along with the FBI, she couldn't get along with Ice.
There's also allegations of an affair between herself and Kurey Lorendowski,
and so are those are the reasons. But the real topper,
Frank was when she went to Congress the other day
and she was questioned about this two hundred million dollar
ad campaign. She said that, oh yeah, she had the

(01:12:35):
go the go from President Donald Trump. Now, President Trump
said he knew nothing about it. I don't think you
you lie about Donald Trump and expect to have your
job too long to you Frank.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Yeah, that's a good point. Again, I don't know what
was said in private between Christine Noman President Trump, so
we're not gonna know how that one really went down.
But clearly she was a political liability. They had to
find an exit for her.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
All right, Frank, talking about exits, we got one right here.
We have to take a break, and this is the
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not had you one enough in most recent times. Right. Well,
let's go on to talking about protecting the US infrastructure. Now,
there are Senators out there, Scott Rubio, Cotton, Roger Marshall
have introduced the Protect America Power Infrastructure Act, let's talk

(01:16:58):
about this and what what is this Protect America Power
Infrastructure Act all about.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Well, it might startle our viewers to understand that some
of the most basic equipment that we're using in really
key areas of our infrastructure, water, electricity, and so forth
were made in China.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
And of course we all know the concept of.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Back doors in this equipment that if we had a
dispute with China, China can simply turn this stuff off. Now,
over the years, you and I have talked about other
types of threats to infrastructure, an EMP attack by for example,
knocking out all power structures in the United States. This
is yet another way that the Chinese can look at
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(01:17:39):
turning off your electricity. Well, Senator Scott Ruby, of course
has gone on to be Secretary of State, Cotton Marshall
and so forth have introduced this Protect American Infrastructure Act
which simply says we can't use equipment from China in
these crucial areas. And the mystery about all of this
is that why this has come to this point and
why we have to have legislation to say you can't

(01:18:00):
do it. This is like saying your enemy is going
to be the guard that's your gate. It's insane to
think that we had this equipment here and it's long
overdue that it's changed.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Well, Frank, we're talking about things, as you say, electric infrastructure,
and a lot of people say, well, we deal with
China all the time, we buy things from China all
the time. But if you recall, during the Wuhan flu fraud,
as I refer to it, China threatened to cut off
medicines coming into our country. So you know, Frank, if

(01:18:33):
they're going to threaten to cut off medicines coming into
our country, it doesn't go beyond the imagination to think
that they could also do the same thing by shutting
off equipment that they sold of us are refusing to
sell us parts to fix it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
I had dinner a long time ago with a one
of the most noted generals in the Pentagon, and then
off the record conversation, I asked him what's the one
thing that keeps you up at night? And he said
that there's Chinese chips in several the most crucial areas
of our infrastructure and even in the military. This is
an act of negligence that should have been addressed a

(01:19:11):
long time ago. Now a credit to the Trump administration
when it comes to some things like port structures, particularly
at the Panama Canal, He's moved to kick the Chinese
out of that area. God knows, something that should have
been done ages ago. But finally it has been done.
We have to continue the job, Brick. We have to
make sure that those electrical units that are powering the country,

(01:19:31):
powering our water supply and so forth, are clean, clean
of enemy chips, clean of enemy equipment. And I use
the word enemy advisably. I'm kind of tired Rick of
kind of soft footing around about calling China a pure
competitor or a potential adversary.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
They're the enemy, the enemy, and it's time we acted
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
And to have let the Chinese in under our noses
like this buying farmland, selling US equipment that runs our electricity.
It's an act of insanity and negligence, and finally we're
paying attention to it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
Well. This Protect America Power Infrastructure rack has some other
elements to it. One is provide the Secretary of Energy
the authority to pre prove energy vendors and equipment which
are deemed secure. Why do you think that's important, Frank.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Well, because you assume that these energy infrastructure pieces are
not all federalized. A state, for example, might decide to
go a Caine Chinese contractor even if the FED say
we don't want that to happen. But a state can
do it, a city could do it. And so clearly
the Secretary of Energy should have the capability of saying, no,
this isn't right. We're not going to let you do it.

(01:20:40):
It's a violation of federal procedure, of federal law. The
same thing probably with the sale of farm land should
go on as well. Now I don't pretend to be
an expert on all farmland growing up in mid tom Manhattan.
Clearly I'm not an agricultural expert. But the fact of
matter is I can't imagine under what auspices farmland, particularly
near American Air Force Bass sold to the Chinese. We

(01:21:01):
need to relook at this thing over and over and
over again and see what's happened.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
Require the Secretary Energy to identify existing bulk power systems
which pose an undue risk on a security and resilience
of critical electrical infrastructures in the United States. Now, Frank,
we've already got I don't know, millions of solar panels
across across the country. Most of these solar panels were

(01:21:29):
built in China. We have windmills up Buku. Most of
these windmills are built in China. Could could we already
be facing a problem? I mean, could these windmills? Could
these solar panels be vulnerable to some sort of Chinese
attack that maybe we're not even aware of.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
Now, No, that's very possible. And of course we found
out that in some of our friends in Europe as well.
I found out that the most innocent looking piece of
Chinese purchased equipment there are things that they can relay
information back to China. Many years ago, Rick, there was
a company in Texas that simply sold telephones, telephones that
you'd see in any office where you have many people

(01:22:09):
on the same similar lines. Well, it was found out
years later that there were Chinese information chips in those telephones.
And as one expert in that high tech company would
phone another expert in that company saying, hey, you know,
do we have any progress on this project? Turns out
they're reading the relaying the information right back to China.
So the Chinese in some cases knew that information before

(01:22:31):
the other engineers and that same company did.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Senator Scott also introduced to Bill amid reports that home
security cameras by a company called Lorex, which has sold
in many big box stores throughout the United States, are
quietly monitoring our homes, our homes. So, Frank, what kind
of information would be important to the Chinese coming from

(01:22:57):
the homes of everyday Americans like frankfort Show and Rick Drader.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
Well, maybe not every single home, but let's look at
if you have an engineer calling in some information about
his project, you have an airport calling it about a
problem and a weakness in one of their fields. You
can go anything your imagination can come up with can
relay information. Remember when you talk about espionage, you know,
it's not always like in the movies where there's a
secret document in one safe that has to be you know,

(01:23:25):
has to be drilled out, or in one computer. Sometimes
you put the stuff together piece by piece by piece,
and the Chinese are remarkably good at doing that. There
is rick in the city of Shanghai, the equivalent of
an entire city block of building that large manned by
members of the Chinese People's Liberation Army, which does nothing
but twenty four hours a day, seven days a week,

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fifty two weeks a year, but monitor these types of
this type of information, and they put it together very
very well. Now with the advent of artificial intelligence, putting
that information together peace by piece is even easier. So
there you see where the threat lies.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Well, Frank, and then sorry if I call you George,
I'm thinking of my full time co host, George Landers.
But in twenty twenty there was an executive order issue
to reduce the risk that entitles associated with the Chinese
Communist Party. But this was revoked, is revoked by Joe

(01:24:26):
Biden in twenty twenty one. Did he ever give any
reason for revoking this, No, he gave no reason.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
But we could all assume the fact that he and
his family got quite wealthy from Chinese investments or from
Chinese dealings.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
That we all know what that's about.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
You know, we look at some of the strange things
that have gone on under democratic administrations in the twenty
first century. How in Heaven's name, for example, did you
have a CIA chief who was once a member were
active in the Communist Party USA? Years ago, you couldn't
get a job as a postal employee if you had
a communist background. And here we had John Running who

(01:25:00):
became chief of the CIA under the Obama administration. Howard
heavens name did that happened?

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
So, Frank, where is this bill sitting now to Protect
American and Power Infrastructure Act? Where is it now? How
important is it to this administration? How fast can we
see this getting through Congress and getting the signature of
Donald Trump?

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
I wish I had the answer to that. You know,
I would assume when this administration took to cold and
we had a majority, significant majority in the United States
Senate and a slim majority, but at least a majority
in the United States Congress, I would have assumed at
that point that a lot of measures like this would
have gone through one two three. But we do know
there have been a number of defections from the Republican
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for example, and others who simply didn't vote with the majority.
And so that's keeping it from getting out of committee
and moving forward.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
Well, keep an eye on this, and hopefully you'll help
us keep an eye on it. Frank, Fernucia. Hey, Frank,
once again we are up against the clock and we
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And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos with
special guest host Frank Ernuccio. And you're surely Rick Trader,
coming to you from the My Pillar studios and My
Store studios of the AUN Television Network. You know, Frank
Conservative Commanders radio show a lot of times is impromptu,

(01:29:32):
and actually we started this conversation today by mentioning your
mayor in New York, ma'am Danire. I'll never get how
to correctly pronounce his name. But we mentioned this snow
fiasco in New York. But that's not the only thing
that's gone wrong in your hometown, is it, Frank.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
And just to take one isolated example, there was an
incident in a local park, Topkins Square Park down in
the Lower Manhattan, and a brawl started with snowballs, but
not snowballs as you think of. Its kids throwing it,
snowballs packed with shards of glass and ice, and a
group of thugs, not teenagers, but people in their late

(01:30:12):
twenties started throwing these things at local police who were
on guard. It was so serious that the cops had
to abandon the park. They were literally chased out of
the park by this mob. Two cops wound up in
the hospital with injuries to their face and neck. Well
the mayor said this was nothing but a juvenile prank,
just kids being kids, just a snowball fight. The local

(01:30:34):
police commissioner said, when two cops go to the hospital,
when cops can't patrol a local park because the violence
is so intense, that's hardly a juvenile prank. The mayor
stuck to his guns and said, no, big deal, don't
worry about it. He didn't even visit the wounded cops
in the hospital, as has been the custom of mayors
in New York City for god knows how long. The
lawlessness that started there is continuing throughout the city. We

(01:30:58):
already have a district attorney, Alvin, who refuses to prosecute.
And in fact, when the police try to charge the
thugs who threw these ice glass laden snowballs at the cops,
Alvin Bregg declined to prosecute. So now we have cops
being attacked, being sent to the hospital, and the mayor
says it's snow, big deal, And the district attorney says, nah,

(01:31:20):
I'm not going to prosecute. How far down can you
go on that ladder before utter chaos and absolute anarchy
descend upon the city.

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
Well, Frank, one of these guys, in fact, was twenty
eight years old, exactly, and so I don't consider that
a you've and all prank. You know, Frank, where was
it or when was it in America that respect for
the police has gone out the window? I mean, my gosh,
who would ever think of throwing a snowball at a cop?

(01:31:50):
I mean, you'd have to be stupid to do something
like that, at least back in my age, because that
would end you up in the back of a cop
car for sure. And I have a friend who has
his staughter dates a New York City police officer, and
they're very frustrated, and he says a lot of times
they'll lock up somebody and they're out of jail before

(01:32:13):
the end of their shift. How much longer do you
think that the New York City Police Department are going
to put up with the actions of this smare before
there isn't actions taken by the police like a blue flue, or.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
The fact that the police are simply going to dwindle
down to numbers that are too small to do their
job in any kind of logical way.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
Let's look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
During Mayor Giuliani's time, I believe the maximum number of
cops was about forty two thousand. We have about thirty
five thousand now, and that number is going to go
down quicker and quicker and quicker through a combination of retirements.
The retirements are the most experienced police officers, by the way,
through not appropriating funds for a new incoming class of
police officers to replace those who are leaving, and for

(01:32:56):
those who are just too disgusted and want to give
up and go to places not too far from New
York City where the pay and conditions for police officers
is so much higher, for example up in Rockland County,
or in Long Island, NASO. In Suffolk County and Suffolk particularly,
I think they very very well. What happens then at
that point where you have the thugs who have taken
over control.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
Not just do you have thugs taken over control, but
this is putting the citizens of New York City at
risk in danger. Thugs start out with small things like
breaking windows or throwing ice falls, it escalates to robbery,
per snatching, assaults, assault with knives and guns. There can

(01:33:43):
be no good that comes out of this, Frank.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
And one point, if this would say occurring in rural Colorado,
we know that urban Colorados that's a problem. Let's say
in urban Colorado, you would assume that most of the
people there had guns to protect themselves. The New York City,
it's almost impossible to get a gun perm it. So,
now that you've taken the police out of the equation,
when there's to police to actually patrol as they should,

(01:34:08):
and now you have a disarmed citizenry. The anarchy is obvious.
We've seen instances in the Five Burrows where a mom
and pop grocery store a corner of deli is repeatedly
robbed out of frustration. The owner of the store somehow
gets his hand on a shotgun or a pistol or

(01:34:29):
anything like that. He's again robbed. He whips out the
shotgun to protect himself. Maybe he doesn't even fire it.
Tell me how the story ends. Everyone knows the crook
or the would be crooked is not punished at all,
but the store owner, who's only part of detected itself
and his store, wants up in jail for owning a gun.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
Rank can always kind of boggles my mind when I
hear people say, well, we don't need weapons, we've got
police to protect us. And I want to bring up
this example of this shooting a week or so ago
down in Texas, where a guy who was newly a
US citizen took a gun, went to a crowded area

(01:35:13):
in Austin, Texas and started shooting people. The police were there.
Police were there fifty eight seconds after the shooting started,
but in that time, three people were killed, another fifteen
or eighteen were wounded, and again the police were there
in less than a minute. But this guy was able

(01:35:33):
to do such damage and such harm in that little
bit of time.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
Great point, Rick, how many of these mass shootings have
we seen? And of course the outcry after it is old,
guns are terrible. But if there had been one person
in a school, in any kind of place where the
shootings take place, who was there, that whole tragedy wouldn't
have occurred at all. We talk about Sandy Hook, and
I know it's a terrible, terrible tragedy, but imagine if
there had been a couple of armed or one armed

(01:36:00):
school guard who could have taken this guy out, the
perpetrator around, that tragedy never would have occurred.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
Well, Frank, let's talk about some of the other Ma'm
Danny promises, the community food stores. I think I heard
that he's looking for like three hundred million dollars to
do his study of the feasibility of these community food stores.
You know, Frank, he ran on this. This was one
of the major planks in his platform. Don't you think

(01:36:28):
he would have that figured out before he got into office?
And he wouldn't need all this money to figure it out.

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
Yeah, because he figured it out.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
They figured out it probably doesn't work, and there's been
examples around the country. But of course that doesn't sound
good to the voter. So I'll promise this and I
want to get in office. Oh well, you know that
study didn't work out, so we really can't do it.
The socialist left has lied their way into power in
just about every place where they've existed agrarian reform in

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Cuba or in Latin America, and of course once they
get there, there are nothing but a bunch of tin
horn dictators. This is a standard mo for all the
leftist socialists that we've seen from time immemorial.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
Again, even the Soviet Union.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
Well, we're just gonna overthrow Bizar, pull us out of war,
and then we'll have a really egalitarian society. And of
course what happens, you get a totally tyrannical leadership in Moscow.
But this isn't anything that should surprise us. It happens
over and over and over again. And they're not only
talking about communist socialism. Let's talk about national socialism. Oh

(01:37:29):
you don't want to hear that name national socialism is
the full name for the word Nazi. About that one
A couple of speeches I've given. I've opened up with that,
particularly with the younger crowd, and I've said, let's talk
about the different types of socialism, the Bolshevik socialism of
the Soviet Union or the national socialism of Adolf Helller.
And you hear in the audience, Oh, what way, No Nazis.

(01:37:50):
They were fascist, They weren't socialist. No Nazi stood for
national socialist. And they came to office with the same
set of lies about everything that the Bolsheviks did, that
the leftist in America did, that the agrarian reformers in
Cuba did, same story over and over.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
Well, Frank, when these students pick their eyeballs and tongue
up off the floor, what's their reaction to learning what
Nazi really means?

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
Well, at first it's now a campy and then you
go it's step by step and you compare the actions
of the Nazis, and you compare things like, for example,
both the Nazis and the Bolsheviks wanted to ban gun control.
Both were antagonistic to Jews, both were antagonistic to free enterprise.

Speaker 3 (01:38:33):
One thing down the line. Both were an.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
Antagonistic towards families. And you have to explain line by
line the extraordinary comparison between things like the Nazis and
the Bolsheviks and the agrarian reformers here in the Western hemisphere.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
Rank I saw his study just the other day talking
about socialism. Roughly thirty six percent of the people in
this country would prefer socialism over capitalism. And this is
this the this is going up and up and up.
It's not coming down, just going this feeling that his

(01:39:09):
passion for socialism is going up and up and up.
And Frank I actually do believe a large part of
this increase in popularity of socialism is because of academia.
No fascists in college, uh teachers in high school, and
it's now reaching down to the elementary schools touting the

(01:39:29):
the great ideas as socialist.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
One of the most popular textbooks and used in academia
is Howard Zin's The People's History of the United States,
which is essentially a socialist version of American history. So
it's no surprising that we've had about two or three
generations that have been brought up on the myth of
socialism being good.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
And you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
Unfortunate because I think the young people are bright, but
there simply don't have a font of knowledge and they've
been indoctrinated straight through.

Speaker 3 (01:39:59):
And this is start in.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
College, this starts bright bracket high school and even in
grammar school. So this is one of the problems that
we're facing. Republicans, unfortunately, and those of us on the
more conservative side of the ledger far too often think
of elections as something that occurs every four years or
every two years. But the left believe that politics is
something that occurs every single day in every single avenue

(01:40:23):
of our society. It's straight up from school through entertainment,
and that's their politics. Those of us on the right
simply don't buy that, unfortunately, and so we're always at
a disadvantage.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
Well, Frank, if we really had teachers and professions and
professors who wanted to teach students what socialism is all about,
they should say, well, we're going to take half of
your grades. So if you expect an A, you're going
to get a C. And if you expected a C,
you're going to give a D. And we're going to
give it to a student who's going to get an

(01:40:54):
F now is going to get a D or a C.
Let's see how they like it then. But I maybe
that's too simple a formula for teaching what socialism really.

Speaker 3 (01:41:04):
Is perfectly said, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
Frank, we do got we do need to take another
break here and this is the Conservative Commander's radio show.
I'm Rick Trader, coming to you from the My Pillar
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And you have written another article experts are destroying local government. Well, Frank,

(01:47:34):
there's a lot of entities out there destroying local government.
But experts aren't They supposed to be helping us here, Buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
Well, unfortunately, depends what their expertise is in and Unfortunately,
their expertise isn't pushing left wing ideology. There used to
be saying that everyone accepted left right, Democrat, Republican, there's
no Republican or Democrat way to pick up the garbage.
Used to be a mattra in local government, meaning that
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(01:48:04):
basic government services, everyone was in the same boat. You
want the garbage to be picked up, You want the
police to do their job and capture the crooks and
the bad guys. You know, those are the basic things
we all agreed on. But over the years we've seen
people with so called expertise take over local government, and
their expertise, as I said before, isn't pushing left wing ideology.

(01:48:25):
Let's look at how this is played out. Let's go
to California. The Palisades burned in that terrible, terrible fire.
The so called experts decided you didn't need to put
enough money into your reservoir, you didn't need enough money
into keeping your fire.

Speaker 3 (01:48:41):
Department in a good condition.

Speaker 2 (01:48:43):
No, they wanted to do things like more low cost housing,
more low cost benefits for illegal immigrants. These are experts
in ideology not experts in running government. Let's look at Chicago,
overrun by crime, one of the America's great cities, America's
second city. In fact, ideologues who call themselves the expert
in all academy would agree that they're experts took over

(01:49:05):
and Chicago is acsessible of crime. Look at New York.
In New York City, now run by a socialist mayor,
was once one of the cities that had the proudest
municipal services. Now those services are collapsing under their own weight.
The mayor wants to make transit free, which means it'll
become a sleeping bag basically for the homeless. He wants

(01:49:25):
to reduce the size of the police force and have
experts in community relations takeover. Well, that's not going to
work out so well. These experts are ruining our city governments,
and it is an absolute danger to the American public,
a danger that is immediate, not just in a theoretical sense,
not just in a financial sense, but in everyday living sense.

(01:49:46):
You will not be able to get on a subway
or bus and feel safe, if you will not be
able to walk the streets feeling safe and you're gonna
watch your garbage pile up because the experts have other
things they.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
Want to do. Right, there's a line in your article
that really struck me like a bolt of lightning. Was
there any thought process behind the vulnerable jihad against affordable,
clean burning gas power and equally affordable, non polluting nuclear power.
And our friend, our mutual friend, doctor Betsy McCoy wrote,

(01:50:19):
your electric bill reveals a stark political divide. Red state
residents are paying less while Blue states gouged their citizens
and businesses with exorbitant electric rates. And why that was
so impactful for me? Frank was our new governor here

(01:50:40):
in the state of New Jersey, Mickey whirlliberg scherl when
she was running. When she was running for governor, what
she said was this clean energy is going to cost
you an arm and a leg, But if you're a
good person, you're going to do it well. First of all,
what's that say. If you are a bad person, you're

(01:51:01):
going to want lower rates. If you're a bad person,
you're going to want reliable electric. But it wasn't just
a Democrat party, Frank, This actually started with Chris Christie.
When Chris Christie closed down the nuclear the Oyster Creek
Nuclear Generating Station ten years ahead of schedule. When other

(01:51:23):
power plants were closed down by Phil Murphy, about six
or eight power plants, coal and gas fire plants reduced
the amount of energy that the state of New Jersey
could produce by forty percent. Now we're getting forty percent
of our energy from out of state and we're paying

(01:51:45):
a premium. People in New Jersey are crying bloody murder now.
But you know what, Frank, elections have consequences. Many of
these people voted for these politicians with bad policies. Why
because the experts are telling these politicians what to do.
These experts are telling these politicians, if you don't do this,

(01:52:09):
we're going to run out of clean water, We're going
to run out of clean wear, clean air. Everybody's going
to get lung cancer.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
Yeah, let's take a troop abroad to see why these
policies work out in the long run. A couple of
decades ago, Germany was the industrial powerhouse of Europe. They
made a decision at that point to abandon coal, abandon oil,
abandon nuclear, and go to renewables. The German economy took
a nose dive, and it's now one of the sick
men of Europe in terms of their economy. The same
thing is in store for any particular state that decides

(01:52:38):
to do that. Right next door to you in New Jersey.
I'm in New York, and we decided to close down
the Shoreham nuclear plant way ahead of schedule. Now we're
looking at major shortages. We're talking about cutting down on
oil and gas. New Yorkers are paying an astronomical amount
just like you are, for energy immediately because of those
very specific decisions. And by the way, the experts failed

(01:53:00):
to prove that oil and gas were polluting, particularly guess
which is the cleanest of these fuels, and nuclear, which
is a clean fuel as well. So the experts, the
climatologists who said the Earth was supposed to oh, let's
see if I get this correct in my memory. Back
in nineteen eighty they said the Earth was going to freeze,
we were going into a new ice age. Well, that

(01:53:21):
didn't work out so well. And then they decided Earth
was going to warm up, and that every year after
that we heard that the Earth was going to start
burning up, that the temperature was going to rise, the
seas were going to boil. Well, we've heard that year
after year nothing ever happened. The experts assure us it
was going to happen. But now it's been what forty years,
and so far armageddon hasn't occurred. But the experts still

(01:53:44):
continue to stick to their guns and they continue to
push on us these ridiculous programs. Let's take something a
little bit sneaky as well. A lot of these folks
are in organizations that get a lot of their funding
from guess where China, and guess where all those solar
panels are made?

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
China.

Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
Absolutely what a coincidence.

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
Frank, it amazes me every time the weather changes, and
by the way, the weather constantly changes. These experts that
say talk about climate change if they hate attention when
they went to grammar school and learned things like ice ages.
Over the last one hundred thousand years, there were four

(01:54:27):
major ice ages. It seems like about every twenty five
thousand years the Earth goes through an ice age. In fact,
the last one was about twelve thousand years ago, only
twelve thousand years ago, when North America was covered by
a sheet of ice all the way down to Princeton,
New Jersey. In some places that ice sheet was over
two miles thick. Now you know what, Frank, if we

(01:54:51):
human beings are causing global warming today, please tell me, Frank,
Please tell me what were they driving? How were they
heating their homes twelve thousand years ago? That melted all
that ice.

Speaker 3 (01:55:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:55:03):
Well, let's look at some actual data, treering data, ice
core samples and so forth, all sorts of isolated data
shows that Earth was warmer.

Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
At the time of the Caesars. No, I don't think
the Caesars.

Speaker 2 (01:55:13):
Were driving gas power chariots, but you know, that was
what it was. When the Norman conquest occurred in England
in ten sixty six a d. There were crops being
grown in southern England that today can only be grown
in the south of France or that direction.

Speaker 3 (01:55:28):
So it was warmer then.

Speaker 2 (01:55:29):
Of course, in the mid Middle Ages we saw that
there was a little ice age.

Speaker 3 (01:55:35):
That's what all those Currier and ives occurred. Things occurred.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
So we've been warming up from that little ice age.
So clearly earth temperature, Earth's climate has warmed and cooled
without the benefit of human intervention. And yet the experts
don't really want to talk about that, do they.

Speaker 1 (01:55:50):
Now, you know, Frank, it seems like whenever these experts
get involved and pull in their friends, the politicians, we
the people suffering. In your art you talk about New
York City. New York City has sought to impose fees
and other strategies quote unquote strategies aimed at reducing the
use of public vehicles. Unfortunately, for commuters, there have been

(01:56:13):
no provisions for adequate alternatives means of transportations in New
York City. From what I understanding, they're jacking the tolls
up of the bridges and the tunnels. They also want
to charge people just to come into the city a
fee just to come into the city. When is when
are we the people going to say, well, if New

(01:56:34):
York isn't going to if New York is going to
be that way, I'm not going to do business there anymore.
I'm not going to go there to see a show,
I'm not going to go there to dinner. And of course, Frank,
that doesn't benefit anyone. It certainly doesn't benefit the businesses
of New York. But if New York wants to charge

(01:56:54):
me every time I want to go to see a
show in New York, which occasionally Marry and I used
to like to do. We haven't done it for a
long time now because of the politics in New York City.
But if they want to charge me another fee on
top of what it costs to see a play on Runway,
you know what, I'd rather sit home and watch something

(01:57:16):
on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:57:17):
Yeah, I Listen't the most illogical part of all of this.

Speaker 2 (01:57:21):
They want to keep cars out of Manhattan, Okay, but
people still have to work in Manhattan. It's where of
the great engine of jobs is for the region. Indeed, well,
so you're not going to take your car in, but
they haven't built They need to do subway lines. There's
not much in the way of improved bus lines. New
York City had were mass transit many cases in the

(01:57:43):
nineteen thirties than it does today. Certainly in terms of freight.
There were freight lines that came directly into New York City.
They're gone. So you don't have your cars coming into
the city. You don't have any other transit options. What
are you going to do simply pretend that you don't
have to go to New York City to maybe get
a job in your neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (01:57:59):
They aren't there. That's the type of ill logic that
we have to swallow from the experts.

Speaker 1 (01:58:05):
Well, now that Frank, there's an exit from these states
and cities like New York, like New York City, like
New Jersey, like California, and the people that are exiting
are the people that are paying the taxes. Every time
these experts tell the politicians, you've got to put in
a wealth tax, more and more people are leaving cities.

(01:58:28):
They're leaving the states, going to low tax states like Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:58:34):
Are leftists, like they're socialist brothers in the old Soviet Bloc,
tend to think that they can build a Berlin Wall
to prevent people from leaving. They'll imprison them in their states.
They can't do that, of course, but that's the mentality
that they've got. Of Course, you can't leave, how can
you possibly do that? But it's going you can't get
a moving van. You can't get a moving van out

(01:58:55):
of California. They're booked up for months in advance. The
same thing's going to happen in New York City.

Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
Right, let's get a break in here, and on the
other side of the break, we will wrap up the show.
And again I'm Rick Trader Committee from the Mike Pilli
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And my guest today is our very dear friend, Frank
Fernud Show Friend of the Conservative Commander's Friend of the
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