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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Welcome everybody, and welcome fellow patriots, Welcome fellow plurals, Welcome
all of you drinks to society, you rock dwellers, you
sick offense and stinkos. In other words, it's time for
the gathering of friends, allies and patriots, which you are
here on the Conservative Commandez radio show. And I'm Rickturiator

(00:41):
coming to you from the Michela Studios, the Mystore studios
of the AU and TV network, and as she does
a couple of times a week, I'm joined by the
patriot from the battle born state, the Silver State, the
battleground state of Nevada. In that is Sharon Engle and
Sharon welcome back, Welcome back to concers ever to command Its.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Thanks Rick, It's always great to be here, and it's
always good to be able to talk about what's in
the news, what's troubling us. We of course talked about
Man Danny yesterday, and today I want to talk about Google.
Google has a free email that they give people, and

(01:22):
in fact sometimes you can't use certain applications unless you
have a Gmail account, So everybody kind of signs up
gets their Gmail free. You know why not, Well, here's
why not. They have discovered now that more than one
hundred and eighty three million passwords have been stolen in

(01:46):
a massive data breach. So all these Gmail accounts now,
who knows it? Did yours get breached? It's it's one
of those things where we've got.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
The AI right.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
This is this is one of those things when you
start looking into AI. Google is the biggest day AI
purveyor I guess. Anyway, they have this massive data breach
at Gmail and now they are having to go out

(02:24):
to all of their users and saying are you on
the list? You know? And if if you are, then
what uh? Now, it's interesting that we're hearing about it now, Rick,
because it happened in April.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Well, that gave them time to get their ducks in
order with their lawyers. You know, That's what that was
probably about, Sharon. They were getting their ducks in line
with their lawyers to ward off lawsuits and things like that,
and also liability. But you know you said, Sharon, where
my pass was No mine weren't because I don't have

(03:01):
a Gmail account, nor do I have a Hotmail account.
Do you know why we talked about this years ago
on Conservative Commandos that Gmail in Hotmail records every keystroke
you make. For instance, let's say I write an email.
Let's say that Sharon Angle calls me diabolical and that

(03:26):
ASTs me. Let's say I write a very strong email
to Sharon Angle telling her how much she hurt my feelings,
but never sent it. Yeah, even though I never sent
that email, Guess who gets a copy. Guess who gets
a copy Gmail or Hotmail? They get they have a

(03:49):
copy of that on their files forever. We're an email
for a draft that I never sent, but they get
a cop That's why I never had a Gmail or
a Hotmail.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
You make a good point, Rick, I think that we
are now very much aware that someone's watching all the time.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
I know this.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
I know this because my cell phone. I get in
my car, and my cell phone will say ten minutes
to wherever it thinks I'm going to the grocery store,
or twenty minutes to home, or wherever it thinks I'm going.
It will tell me how long it's going to take
me to get there, and it actually kind of evesdrops

(04:41):
on my.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Movements.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
I don't know exactly how it gets because I never
Google map. You know, when I'm going over to the Pool.
I've made that trip so many times. I don't need
a Google Map, and I never used it in the
first place, because I've lived in this neighborhood for a
long time. However, that phone knows my schedule, knows that

(05:07):
I'm going to go to the Northwest Pool three times
a week, and what time that is, and then it
says this many minutes to the Northwest Pool. So it's
it's disconcerting at best, you know, to have to know
that your movements are being followed like that, but then

(05:30):
to have them come out and say, well, you know, gosh,
there's been a breach and one hundred and eighty three
million emails now email accounts have been basically hacked. The
passwords have been taken, you know. That's another thing, these passwords,

(05:54):
you know, so they make you have a password you
give for everything. They have your password in the back somewhere.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yep. Sure, and you can't go anywhere. You can't do
anything anymore without a password. I mentioned to you yesterday
that for our anniversary, Mary and I took a day trip.
We went out to Western Maryland to write on the
Western Maryland Scenic Railroad, which was great well to make

(06:29):
reservations for that, you had to create an account with them,
and they ask you for your email address and they
ask you to create a password. Now, are you're going
to create a password for every little thing you do?
A lot of people aren't like me, and they'll use

(06:49):
the same old password all the time. So for a
lot of these people that had their email passwords on
Gmail and hotmail sold it, they could probably go in
your Yahoo account, your do you know account, or this
account that account and try this password that you have

(07:11):
one of these other accounts and maybe get into maybe
your bank, maybe your bank. A lot of people do
bank by mail today. A lot of people do bank
by And when you do bank by mail, what do
you got to do? You've got to open account, create
a user name of the password. Right, they also want
your email address, So it isn't very difficult to put

(07:35):
one and one together two all right. So a lot
of these hackers and things will try using a password
that you want use on one account in many accounts.
Now is there a way to get around it and
stop it? And then creating a password for every app

(07:57):
that you have? But you know, you're right, Mary and
I were mentioning something we're having a conversation, and by
and large, the next time she went to use her phone,
there was an ad pertaining to what we were talking about.
And it wasn't like we had did a search for

(08:22):
this particular thing. It knew what we were talking about.
It knew what we were talking about. So are you
being monitored? Yeah, you're being monitored. There's your email being monitored. Yeah,
it's being monitored. You can't even walk down the street
today without being on somebody's video camera. And I think

(08:47):
in some areas, in some respects, that's very good because
a lot of crimes have been been solved because of this.
But in other areas, where's your privacy? You have no privacy.
Once you leave your door, you have no privacy. Now
with that, Sharon, we do need to take a break,
and you're listening to the conservative commandos. We're Sharon Angle.

(09:11):
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Speaker 1 (11:04):
And thank you for sticking with us. This is the
Conservative Commandos for Sharon Angle. I'mrick Trader. Committee you from
the My Pila Studios and my Store studios of the
au n TV network. So, Sharon, in the last segment,
we're talking about passwords. We're talking about this, this theft
of Gmail accounts. What else is on your radar screen?

Speaker 2 (11:26):
I guess Robert Kennedy. Robert Kennedy is the new Secretary
of Health and Human Services, and he has announced that
tyler Nall is a medication risk for young children and
for pregnant women. And what they have found is that
if you take it, you have a higher incidence of.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Autism.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
So what they're saying is well, actually President Trump came
out and made this statement, pregnant women, don't use tyland
All unless absolutely necessary, don't give tylandal to your young
child for virtually any reason. Break up the MMR shot
into three totally separate shots, not mixed. Take a chicken

(12:19):
pox shot separately, take hepatitis B shot at twelve years
old or older, and importantly, take vaccine in five separate
medical visits. And that's from the President.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
And what he's.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Doing is he's listening to his Secretary of Health and
Human Services, who's telling him this is dangerous and we
need to be paying attention. We you know, I think
we're hypersensitive after all that happened with the COVID nineteen vaccinations,
So we don't want to have vaccinations. I know I

(12:58):
have several friends that are read for using flu shots
this season because they just don't trust it. And I think,
you know, I think that there's a reason not to
trust these these vaccines, and yet they're pushing them pretty hard.
And uh when the when the President comes out and says,

(13:24):
uh these these uh taylanol are not safe, and so
there this is this is the reason there's amounting evidence
finding a connection between a stimentifin, which is tailan all
used during pregnancy, and autism. And that's why the administration

(13:46):
is courageously issuing this new health guidance. Additionally, the Trump
administration is approving a new treatment option that has been
found to improve some autism symptoms. So they're really going
after this increase in autism that we've been seeing over

(14:06):
the years and trying to figure out what's causing it.
It's his President Trump pledged to address America's skyrocketing rates
of autism, and his team is deploying gold standard science
to deliver on this pledge. We will not be deterred
in these efforts. As we know, millions across America are grateful.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
That's what his.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Press secretary Carolyn Leavitt said when she was asked about this. So,
you know, I got to thinking about this, a set
of menafin and babies and mothers who are pregnant, and
it just reminded me back when I was growing up.

(14:50):
It was solidamide, remember, and there was a big thing
about politamide and.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Why it.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
In the nineteen fifties, phaltamide was prescribed in forty six
different countries to women who were pregnant or we had
become pregnant after they took phalitamide, and the validamide was
basically to keep them.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
From being nervous.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
I guess you know.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
It was a it was a calming drug. Well, it
coused birth defects is what happened, and so they stopped
the use of it. And I think that that that
just reminded me of that problem that we had in

(15:49):
the nineteen fifties and sixties.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
And so here we go again.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
You know, big pharma giving us something that we.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Have thought but this is safe?

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Not so much, not so much. Well, Sharon, I think
America is over medicated, not just in illegal drugs, but
prescription drugs. Every drug you take s side effects. Every
drug you take s side effects, and then you start
taking drugs for the side effects, which also have side effects.

(16:26):
I'm spucking many times. You're in the conservative command. As how.
I was injured by a flu vaccine, not the Wuhan
flu vaccine, but the regular flu vaccine. I got something
called Parsonage turner because of it, and I still suffer
the effects of that. And I took this shot eighteen

(16:46):
nineteen years ago. It affected my right arm shoulder back
that there for two years, I couldn't raise my arm
above my shoulder. It still takes an effort. I've lost
a great deal of strengthen my right arm and shoulder
because the effects of this parsonage turner, which was an
effect of of getting a flu shot. There's too many

(17:12):
drugs out on the market, and it's also the marketing
of drugs. You can't watch television without once twice, three,
four or five six times an hour then pushing some other,
job other drug on you it. Ask your doctor if

(17:32):
this drug is right for you. Ask your doctor if
this drug is right for you? And oh they show
these happy, happy, joyful people, you know, and by the
way they take these drugs, I wonder. I often wonder
if drugs pharmaceuticals are the only solutions for ailments. Isn't

(17:56):
there something else? Couldn't there be something else? I mean,
but it is lifestyle, exercise, eating, yoga, I don't know.
But is there are drugs the only solution for things
that ail you? Another thing that I learned a long

(18:17):
time ago doctors. We depend upon doctors to know everything
it is about each and every little ailment we have,
and know everything about drugs and medicines. However, what I
learned was doctors, once they're out of medical school, get

(18:37):
most of their follow up training and education through the
drug salesmen that visit their offices. And what are these
drug salesmen there to do? Well, they are there to
encourage your doctor to prescribe a certain drug to you

(18:58):
for whatever. I mean, my gosh, it's it's we're just
over medicated and America is suffering. I believe American is
American Americans they're suffering from that. Got this of zempic
drug for weight loss control. I mean, first of all,

(19:22):
the price for it is astronomical. Most people that are
overweight or overweight because they have two problems. Number one,
they eat too much. Number two, they need to be
more active. Okay, but this weight loss drug now gives

(19:43):
them excuse to eat more and work out less. People
are going to you know, people are going to go
out and say I'm going to eat and drink and
be merry, which is their right to do because I
know I can and now taking those zempech or other
weight loss drug to lose that weight problem. The the

(20:09):
thing that is is that I will bet within due
time these other drugs are like a z empch these
weight loss drugs, I bet they're going to find side
effects from them that I think you got this your

(20:30):
Sharon you know I've said many, many times, this is
a family show, kids, grandkids, dogs, cats, everybody's welcome.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Well, we need to take a break because not only
are we over medicated, we're out of time.

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All right, and we'll do that. And you are listening
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(26:47):
I know you're always always interested in an election integrity,
and I saw something today that I found very interesting
and I hope you will too, and that is the
US Department of Justice is sending out investigators to monitor

(27:09):
voting in New Jersey and in California ahead of the
November fourth general election. A statement from the Department of
Justice Office of Public Affairs announced that election monitors would
be sent to jurisdictions in New Jersey, California, and other

(27:30):
places to ensure ballot security, transparency, and compliance with federal law.
Quote transparency at the Paull polls translates into faith in
the electoral process. And this Department of Justice is committed

(27:50):
to upholding the highest standards of election integrity. And this
comes from Attorney General Pam Bonding. Now why is this important,
especially in places like New Jersey. Well, voter voter cheating
in New Jersey is notorious. In fact, we had a

(28:13):
governor one time. His name was Brendan Byrne, and he
said when he died, he wanted to be buried in
Hudson County so his vote could continue to be counted.
You know what they say, Sharon, that every joke, there's
an elemented truth in every joke. Brendan Byrne knew it.

(28:36):
Everybody in New Jersey knows it. And I think this
is a great idea. I do believe that there should
be monitors in every polling district, and not monitors from
the Philadelphia Democrats or the the watchdog group Women of

(28:58):
seven Years. I think there should be federal poll watchers
in every every polling place. I think there should be
ice agents outside of every polling place. You know, not
just to catch people who are here illegally, Sharon, but
stop people who are here illegally from voting so that

(29:25):
blad Department of Justice. I would love to see more
of this. And Sharon, isn't this what we voted for
when we elected Donald Trump president?

Speaker 2 (29:35):
It is, it is, and he has been moving in
that direction right along. In fact, if you've been watching
his executive orders, you probably saw Executive Order fourteen two
four eight. So this is preserving and protecting the integrity

(29:56):
of American elections. And what it does, it just outlines
what we need to have done. The first thing is
voter id and the second thing is these voter lists
have to be maintained. We can have just bloated voter lists,

(30:16):
dead people on their people that have moved away, people
that never existed. Those kinds of things, Bloated voter roles
undermine this public trust that even the Democrats are now
trying to come over to this side because they know
that the people have had it. They're done with it.

(30:38):
They want transparent, they want well elections that they can
have some confidence in. And they're even starting to use
our words, which is really actually a win for our
site if they're using our words now to say, well,
they are going to promise voter and take election integrity

(31:01):
and voter confidence.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Those are our words.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
We've been saying for the longest time. There is no
election integrity and there is no voter confidence in these elections.
And it each time we have an election. Uh, these anomalies,
these bad.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Things happen, and share it.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
I got to stop you for a moment. Guess what
just popped up on my computer? An ad for weight loss? Oh?
What were we talking about in our last segment? Right,
it just pops up on my computers.

Speaker 6 (31:40):
Share.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
I'm sorry to interrupt, but I had no explain why
I was laughing.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
It's because the you were eaves dropped on and now
they they think you might be interested.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
You know, well I should be interested. I could use
to lose a few pounds before Thanksgiving and Christmas and
start to add up the weight. But I just found it.
It's a so it's more than erotic. Share, right, It's
not coincidental. I don't believe that there are very many coincidences,

(32:14):
the fact that in the last segment we're talking about
weight loss and what pops up on my computer an
ad about weight loss. I mean, you're always, always, always
under surveillance. I'm sorry, Sharon, please.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Well, Ai was listening, and sure was.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
It got right back to you on that.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
It sure did.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
It's very quick. So maybe that's that's what it's doing.
Is it's listening in on our conversations about election integrity,
grabbing our words and giving them to our enemies, you know,
to using their campaigns against us. But I was talking
about the Executive Order fourteen to forty eight, which is

(32:59):
preserving and protecting the integrity of American elections, and the
Democrats are saying this is a huge overreach, this executive order,
but it really isn't. It's just restating and enforcing.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
The law that's already been passed.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
We have the National Voter Registration Act that requires this,
that we have the voter roles cleaned up. So does
the Help America Vote Act. These are things that have
been in place but never enforced. Now President Trump is

(33:42):
saying we're going to do this. We're going to enforce it,
and he's asking them to now require, not just suggest,
but require that federal agencies and state elections officials have
access to the like immigration roles, social security roles, death records,

(34:06):
so that we can do this cross referencing and clean
up those roles. It was just a suggestion before, but
this executive order says no, You're going to open it
up so that these things can be used to clean
up our voter roles. He also said that all mail

(34:27):
in ballots must be received by election day.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Guess what election day is?

Speaker 2 (34:33):
This Tuesday, after the first Monday of November.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
That's election day, Charon, I can I interrupt for a minute. Yeah,
on this idea of that is election day. The pearls
of all this early election of New York City is
having an election from mayre. We talked about man Dami yesterday.
This just popped up. The mother of New York City

(35:03):
socialist marri Or candidate so Han man Danny gave an
interview when he was a twenty one year old college
student discussing how her son is quote not an American
at all, while using terminology that some would view as
derogatory towards the United States, and she says he is

(35:28):
a total DOESI whatever that means when her son, Zurhan
was twenty one years old at the sign. Zurhan attended
Bowden College, where he co founded his school's Students for
Justice in Palestine chapter and was pushing for academic sanctions

(35:51):
against Israel, and she says here completely completely. We're not
frowlings at all, And I don't know what frelings means.
He's very much us. He's not an American at all,
or he is not an American at all. He was

(36:11):
born in Uganda, raised between Indian and America. He is
at home in many places. He thinks of himself as
a Uganda and an Indian. This is the problem with
these early voting Sharon. I bet the five hundred people,

(36:35):
five hundred thousand people that have already voted in New
York haven't read this article.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
No, there's no October surprise, is there? Rick, Most everybody's
voted before the October surprise happens. It used to be
that you would you would wait until just before election
day and there would be these last minute things that
come out about candidates.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
But no more.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
You better have your whole campaign thought out, put out there,
printed out there way before early voting starts. Otherwise people
are not paying attention and they they go ahead and vote.
They don't have all the facts and they just go
ahead and vote without them.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Sharon, I just wanted to clarify in hindu and you're
your duh. I don't know what that language is, but
failing is an informal term historically associated to describe foreigners
or westerners. So when she she said, when she says

(37:48):
that he is not a frailing at all, that means
he's not a foreigner or westerner. This is Madami's mother.
And again this is leads to the pearl or demonstrates
the pearls of these early voting all the facts. So
all the information is not in about this guy. Yeah,

(38:12):
people have already voted.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
So that's why we have to get back to election day.
And that's part of this executive order. Do election day
on election day, get all the returns in. Don't have
them counting ballots five six, seven days after the election,
well without postscripts, I mean postmarks on them.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Well, I think election day is election day, that there
should be no ballots accepted after the close of the
polls in any particular area. But I, unlike you, I
don't care how long it takes to get an accurate account.
I want an accurate account. It doesn't have to be
by midnight of election night. That would be nice, but

(39:02):
if it in the you know, proceed the next day
or the next week to get an accurate turtle. I
think that's that's that's.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Why you don't certify the election until several days later,
so that you've been able to investigate make sure that
the that the election was done properly. That's why it's
not certified. But we can know pretty much who won
the election.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
That night next morning.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Again, I disagree. Do you remember twenty twenty, Sharon, everybody?
I mean no, let me let me clarify, be more specific.
Do you remember election night in twenty twenty that we
did an election night house party hero in the au

(39:54):
N TV network. You were there, George was there, Frank
Fernuccio was there, Dana Allen was there. I was there.
I mean, the whole gang was there, all right, and
we had coming in and out in law and at midnight.
At midnight when the polls closed, Donald Trump was ahead
in every battleground state, but by the next morning he

(40:17):
was losing in every battleground state.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
That's why you don't close the polls until you've got
the count You can't, I mean, not close the polls,
but you don't shut down the counting until you have.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
The clear.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Connection between who ran and who won because once you
give them an opportunity to close that whole process down,
then things start to happen like we saw in twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
So I still.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Maintain if they hadn't closed those poles down, we would
have had a declared winner that evening and it would
have held. But they we gave them a chance to.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Cheat well, and they did. They they did do that,
and they did sharing one more time. I hate to
do this. It is break time. We do need to
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or the shutdown Sharon. And you know, every day, every

(44:29):
day I hear the Democrats saying it's the Republican shutdown.
It's the Republican shutdown. And every day, I say, let's
do the math. Fifty two Republicans voted to keep the
government open to fund the government. Forty four Democrats voted
to shut it down. So who's shutdown? Is it? Sharon?
That's that's the basic myth. But here we are, Sharon,

(44:52):
We're still in a a so called government shutdown. They're
saying non essential workers, and I say, well, there's so
not essential. Why do we have them at all? I
think that the Army, Air Force, Marine's National Guard, because
guard all the troops should be included in essential. I

(45:13):
think your traffic controllers should be included in essential. And
you know what if they're not essential governmentor or why
we paying them in the first place? Goodbye ariios. But
that's just me.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Well it's shut down, Schumer. I think that Trump really
called it this time.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
It is.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
They are blocking it because they want more. It's not
just keep the government going. Is we want more on
top of what keeps the government growing?

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Well, we can't. We can't afford it.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
And that's the honest truth is that we are trillions
in debt. The President and has promised and the Congress
has promised to work on the debt, and they can't
do it as long as we've got people spend, spend, spend, spend,

(46:14):
and more spending. And so that's what's going on there
now in the twenty eighth day of this shutdown and
shut down Schumer is the one that's doing it. He
he can't. If Schumer would come over to the right
side of this and just vote to go ahead and sign.

(46:41):
You know, it's not a budget, it's an ongoing process.
We always have this same problem. We never quite get
past this problem every year. And he could do it.
He could be the one who stops this by just saying, Okay,
we'll just go back to work. We'll do what we've

(47:06):
been doing all along, will not ask for these increases.
We'll just keep this the continuing resolution going, and the
government workers will go back to work. But no, that's
not what they're doing. They just continue to stand.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
It's a strike, if you will, I think by the
by the Senate, and they've got enough of the folks
that should be should be on our side voting with
them that they can't get a continuing resolution passed. And
you know, we know who those guys are. They're the

(47:50):
ones that all are you always are, always are on
the wrong side of this issue. So I think that uh,
we will see more and more Republicans start to say, Okay,
we're done, We're done. We're done, and past these continuing

(48:11):
resolutions they've they've tried to do a piece meal you know,
well we'll just I think today was the day that
they were going to just fund snap, which is a
food stamps right, and they're not going to get it
again because now every of the Republicans are finally saying,

(48:36):
wait a minute, you know, they're they're just trying to
cover up what they've been doing. They want to do
this piecemeal stuff. I think John john Than said it best.
He says, this bill is a cynical attempt to provide
political cover for Democrats to allow them to carry on

(48:57):
their government shut down for a longer term. So he's saying,
you know, we give him this piece and now they'll
just keep keep the strike up, the shutdown up.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
So I think that they're right. They're planning to keep
this shutdown going.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
They're trying to use it because they don't have anything
else use it going in Oh.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
They're using it as leverage. They're using his leverage. Well, Sharon,
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First guest of the day is with Listen, Take it Away,
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Speaker 2 (51:40):
Take it Away. It's my pleasure to introduce Matt Lamb,
who's an associate editor for the College Fix. He also
writes for a life site news Headline USA and it's
written for the Washington Examiner. He previously worked for students
for Life of Americas, to for Life Action and Turning

(52:02):
Point Ussay. Along with Open the Books, The College Fix
regularly trains students and helps them find jobs in media
with alumni at Fox News, The Daily Wire, Washington Examiner,
National Review, and a host of other publications. Matt, Welcome
to the Conservative Commando's radio show.

Speaker 7 (52:24):
Yeah, thanks for having me back in this new year,
and I'm glad to be back on to discuss some
different stories.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Yes, well, I'm eager to discuss those too. It seems
like there's a bunch of stories coming out about Trump
saying DEI just doesn't work for America anymore. Well, make
America great? How does that work for people like Notre

(52:52):
Dame and other colleges? You know, the College Fix is
what you're called, and it seems like this is kind
of going to unravel some of that.

Speaker 7 (53:03):
Absolutely. So you know, a lot of Donald Trump's orders
are of course still to be put in place, and
there's different reports and directives that will will come out
as his different appointees look into these issues further. But
he has basically called on for the limiting of the
limiting or elimination of DEI And I think what's important

(53:25):
to note is a lot of these things should have
been happening or not happening how we're going to say
it anyway. So for example, programs that say, you know,
they'll be called something like Black Engineers Initiative or Women
and Engineering Initiative, or you know, the Hispanic Teacher Scholarship,

(53:46):
these programs clearly discriminate on the basis of race or sex.
And what happens a lot of times is donors use
universities to have these scholarships and they put these strings
on them. It has to go to women, or it
has to go to Hispanic students, or it has to
go to black students, and that violates federal law Title six,

(54:09):
Title ten or I'm sorry, excuse me, Title nine about
discrimination of race and discrimination of gender. Now that won't
necessarily affect every university program. Alluding to is the story
we had the other day at Notre Dame about at
the college fix about Notre Dame, which promises to quote,

(54:31):
affirm and advocate end quote for and I'm gonna say
a bunch of things, and I promise I am not
having a stroke to s n lgbt QY A plus students.
So someone points U out in the comment despite all
those letters, there's still a plus at the end. And
I'm not going to go into what all those letters mean.

(54:51):
You can read the college fix, but essentially, the University
of Notre Dame, despite being a Catholic, is saying every
type of sexual orientation, every type of gender identity as
it's called, we're going to affirm it. Now, what Trump
could do that will actually affect this is cracking down

(55:14):
on these transgender surgeries. Now, of course, cracking down for
minors wouldn't necessarily thact college students, but limiting it and
putting in place different policies to make it hard for
people to have these surgeries that render them infertile for
life in some cases, I guess would eliminate any sort
of university promoting it. But I do think a lot

(55:37):
of maybe that pushback against no Day does it can
always come from the federal level. I think some of
that has come from the local level and local leadership.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Well, it seems like they're kind of trying to figure
this out by doing some pushback of their own. So
the University of Kansas, for instance, their trans Studies initiative
of are advancing as an ideological agenda. What what's that about?
I mean, is that saying Trump, Uh, we don't care

(56:08):
what you say. We're gonna do it our way.

Speaker 6 (56:11):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (56:11):
So what's the interesting about this is at the University
of Kansas. Now, Kansas has a Democrat governor, but it's
a relatively red state. In fact, there was someone who
famously complained about it being Republican who wrote a book
called I think it was called What's Wrong with Kansas?

Speaker 5 (56:26):
And it was.

Speaker 7 (56:27):
Basically, you know what, one of these one of these
conservative groups, you know, support leptism. This is decades ago,
I think. But in anyways, so the University of Kansas
is creating a center to basically push for transgender ideology,
and that included interdisciplinary engagement, courses of publication called Transgender

(56:52):
Studies quarterly. But what's and so maybe that could be
defended in some sort of you know, academic freedom grounds
or well it's just a wacky center. But what's also
really concerning is this is a public university and they're
explicitly saying that they are going to and this was

(57:14):
originally from John Salor National Association of scholars or Manhattan's too,
that the University of Kansas school is going to recruit
scholar activists to fight what they call anti trans policies
passed mainly in Kansas. So I want to to think,
I want everyone to think about this for a minute.
So a public university is supporting a center to basically

(57:38):
train lobbyists and activists to fight against the legislature which
funds that university. There's actually something similar, And I'm sorry
I didn't send this article to you that I wrote
about for the Federalists and Life Cite News. Where my
state Indiana? So my tax payer dollars, you guys know

(57:59):
in journal there's a lot. Of course, I make a
lot of money, and I just kidding, but where we
fund this left wing group called the Indiana Legal Services,
And the Indiana Legal Services turned around and took money
that for whatever reason, we gave it to support LGBT
identity documents, and the Indian Illegal Services took state money

(58:22):
and then sued Indiana for not offering these crazy non
binary driver's licenses. So I guess the point of this
whole rantom on is red state university should Red states
should not be funding their own destruction, and that appears
to be what's happening right now in Kansas.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Okay, there's another one. I mean your articles that you
sent us. This this really is the hot topic. Wayne
State asked employer partners to make DEI pledge.

Speaker 7 (58:52):
Yeah, so Wayne State, which is in Michigan. I believe
it's like outside of Detroit. They have this employer Diversity,
Equity and Inclusion pledge, and they didn't they respond to
us until after the article came out. For whatever reason.
The university says it's voluntary. That's not actually really clear

(59:15):
from the language on the website, and in fact, the
language says that the school is going to quote hold
employers accountable for promoting equitable access. So to me, that
sounds like it's mandatory. And it says that basically, these
employers have to commit to DEI for black, Hispanic, Indigenous students, women,

(59:41):
and then and then students disabilities, international students, and then
also says LGBTQ plus students. Now, obviously employees are already
have to follow federal civil rights law, so they can't
discriminate on the basis of sex, they can't discriminate on
the basis of race, that's already the law, and f
it's not really Wayne State University's responsibility to enforce it.

(01:00:04):
That would be up to the Michigan Attorney General, the
Department of Justice, Department of Labor maybe to enforce those laws.
What's concerning about this pledge though now we know it's voluntary,
although that's not really clear when you're on the website,
is the lgbt Q plus students part, because that would
dissuade Catholic employers, Protestant employers, really any organization that wasn't

(01:00:30):
fine with you know, men in women's bathrooms, which would
go beyond I would think even conservative Christian groups. So
they would have to you know, I mean, the university
said they're going to be held accountable for this, and
so that would certainly raise some religious freedom issues.

Speaker 6 (01:00:48):
And but you know, so that's.

Speaker 7 (01:00:50):
That's the main issue with this, this DEI pledge that
you know this to be part of this, to be
listed here is making the pledge right, So, even if
it's not mandatory, there's sort of an element of what
do you call it, coercion or sort of shaming people.
Maybe they put Catholic and Protestant and other employers in

(01:01:14):
sort of a tight spot because they may want to
hire Wayne State students, but then they're put in this
position of is the university going to you know, criticize
them if they don't allow you know, gender confused you know,
transgender men to use a women's bathroom for example.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Well, you know, when I first looked at it, I
thought there might be even more of an underlining thing,
underlying thing, because universities do hire contractors, and they do
have partnerships with businesses around the university for their you know,

(01:01:54):
just it's a kind of a symbiotic relationship. And I thought, well,
maybe they were going to win draw their patronage or
withdraw their contracts. Have they threatened that or is it
just this you know, this holding them accountable issue? Said,
that's pretty pretty broad, a pretty broad threat.

Speaker 7 (01:02:15):
Actually, yeah, so right now, I mean it's through this
employer partnerships. It's not necessarily like the whole university you know,
threatened employers. But I do think that with that you know,
unclear language, that we only found out the clarity because
we asked them about it and published an article about it.

(01:02:37):
You know, if I was an employer, I would be concerned,
and so we don't know how many other employers seeing
this on the website are chilled from asking to you know,
asking to be placed. I will say, I to test it,
I put the College Fix, and I of course said no,
we're not going to do the diversity pledge. So we'll
see if I hear back any further from them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Just see what you mean by that?

Speaker 7 (01:03:00):
Yeah, how much?

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
What is holding accountable really mean?

Speaker 7 (01:03:07):
Yeah, there'll maybe great well with that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
We we're kind of held accountable here by our sponsors.

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Speaker 6 (01:05:53):
Com, right, Matt, the college fix dot com?

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Yeah, College Fix, Matt. Question for it. What does tuition
at Yale cost a year? Roughly?

Speaker 7 (01:06:06):
Oh man, it's got to be like, I don't know,
eighty thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
See, because this is what I see wrong with colleges.
You know, it's they're way overpriced, especially at Yale, where
there's a course that ask if black and white women
can be friends? Now, this is these are what students
are paying eighty thousand dollars a year for this kind

(01:06:36):
of nonsense. And then, Matt, when these people graduate and
potential employers look at a graduate from Yale, they're supposed
to be overly impressed. Matt. See, this is what's wrong
with college today. It's overpriced, and the degrees when they

(01:06:59):
get when they take courses like this garbage, are really worthless.
Am I ever stating that.

Speaker 7 (01:07:05):
Matt, No, that's right, and I did confirmed. So this
is on the Yale website. The tuition and fees for
this year. Tuition is sixty seven thousand, and then housing
in food is like another twenty thousand, so you're looking
at at least sixty seven thousand plus if you live
on campus. So yeah, almost ninety thousand. You know, Just

(01:07:26):
to steal a joke from Steven Moore when I was
at Loyola, you know, he said, look, I told he said,
I told my son, I'll just give you two hundred
fifty thousand dollars and you can just play computer games
for four years instead of me paying for you to
go to college. And you know it might be the
case that Yale, so like you mentioned, so, they have
this course which they've offered at least one time their

(01:07:48):
time before and it's called no time for tears friendships
between black women and white women. And uh, you know
asked this question which sometimes when you ask questions you
sort of say what you're thinking, right that it asks
if black and white women can be friends. The fact

(01:08:08):
you're you know, asking the question to something that most
people would say yeah, suggest that you think that they
can't be they can't be friends, which is quite quite
crazy because the professor, Tasha Hawthorne says that students and
the course will interrogate with brutal honesty the stakes that

(01:08:30):
underwrite black women's relationships with white women. And this this
is what they're teaching at Yale, and this is what
anti racism is. I mean, the professor said that this
class is going to follow quote, you know, anti racist principles,
and that apparently means questioning if black people and white
people can be friends.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Hey see, man, I think again, this is this is
the problem because when you have these kinds of discussions,
I don't know that these kinds of discussions bring fruit
to anything except for more race system to point out
the differences between black and white and male and female

(01:09:10):
and everything I honestly believe that if people would just
drop the race issue and just treat each other the
way they want to be treated, did we get further
along in life? Don't you think?

Speaker 6 (01:09:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:09:24):
Absolutely, I mean I don't think I don't think we
ask there need to ignore that there might be racial
problems that there you know, might be you know, a
facts from segregation. I mean, I don't think that's necessarily wrong. Yeah,
I think the bigger issue is starting from the premise
that there's racial animosity, and I actually don't think it's

(01:09:45):
based on race. I think with Trump's election, I mean
he won a majority of white people. He won twenty
percent of young black men. That's not a ton, but
it's actually a significant amount. And I think he won
a majority of Latino men, or roughly fifty percent, like
enough that if you walked into a party and there
was one hundred this is gonna tell a bad joke.

(01:10:06):
There's one hundred Latino men, you wouldn't be able to
know right away if they supported Trump or not. Right
it was close enough, if I remember from the exit polls.
And I think it gets back to it's about you know, values.
I mean, I think my own you know my own life.
You know, we'll have people over from our church who
are you know, black or Hispanic. But it's more that
we share our Catholic faith right than the color of

(01:10:28):
our skin. And so I think I would have more
in common with a you know, a black conservative Protestant,
a black Baptist or Catholic than I necessarily would with
a white liberal who went to Wesley who is spiritual
but not religious. And so I think that this course
does quite obviously divide on race. But I mean literally

(01:10:49):
it's saying, cant black women and white women be friends.
I mean, I think George Wallace would have liked that
course in the nineteen fifties, but I think now in
twenty twenty five, it it doesn't really fit with with
modern racial politics.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
I think these a lot of these courses and discussions,
they're all, let's tell white people how rotten, evil and
nasty they are. But you know, continuing this thing about race,
you have this one article on the college fix that's
racist for governor not two fund forty of a tiny

(01:11:22):
black college with his sub part graduation rate. And I
think the articles or what people should want to know
about is why this college has such a bad graduation
rate if they've already been getting state funds and probably

(01:11:42):
federal funds. The funding, I don't think is the question.
I think the question that needs answering is why the
sub part graduation rate? Are they accepting students that are
not qualified to go to college? Are they not educating
these students to graduate? I mean, g Matt, I think

(01:12:06):
that the whole premise of the question is wrong, don't you.

Speaker 7 (01:12:13):
Yeah, I mean that's yeah, I can see what you're saying.
So for a little background, Indiana has a new governor,
Mike Brown. He used to be a senator, fairly conservative senator,
and you know, he's releasing his new budget. We do
our budget on two year cycles, and he cut two
and a half millions of five million in the next
two years to this. I had never even heard of

(01:12:35):
this college. It's called Martin University in Indianapolis. And so
this state rep who's Indianapolis. Hey, he's just being you know,
he's just trying to be a good representative, fighting for
money for his constituents. You know, I get it. But
I don't think it's it's appropriate to attack the governors
as racist to bring up segregation because he's cutting funding

(01:12:56):
to this university. So I looked it up. So so
their total budget is less than seven million dollars a year,
So this money is essentially a full ride for every student.
And there's only two hundred students that go to the school.
And despite that, they have a graduation rate of thirty
three percent.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 6 (01:13:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:13:17):
And I guess what I will say too is that
you know, what Governor Brown is doing in our state
is refocusing the budget. He's actually increasing some of the
education funding so we can have universal school choice, which
benefits actually all all students, but particularly I think lower
income students who could be white but also be black Hispanic.

(01:13:41):
I think actually that school choice will be more beneficial
because you know, there certainly you can go to college
as later in life, and this university appears to kind
of focus on like twenty five, twenty six, little slightly
older students relatively, but really, if you get a really
good start early, you're going to have more opportunities later.

Speaker 6 (01:14:01):
And so my.

Speaker 7 (01:14:02):
Personal opinion as a taxpayer of Indiana, I mean, I
think one it's inappropriate to attack the governor's racist for
cutting funding to it an underperforming college. You know, I'd
rather re direct the money to like a better performing
college that helps racial minor, you know, helps different students.

(01:14:23):
Second of alloy saying well, the dreams of these students
will be killed now, Well, the dreams if they're being
killed is because one, two, and three students that go
to this college don't graduate within I think it's sixty
years is typically have graduation rates are calculated. It's not
Mike Broun's fault that this college is low performing. And
maybe the college is lover performing because they take on

(01:14:43):
more difficult students because they don't have a lot of money. Possibly,
but it's it's not really Mike Bron's fault. And in fact,
I looked it up and as of a couple of
years ago, they actually weren't really receiving that much government
money anyways. So it's not like for six years they've
been really successful with this taxpayer money and now the

(01:15:04):
rug's being pulled out from underneath them. And so I
just think it's an unfair attack, and maybe the rep
should be going over to the college and saying, if
we're giving you millions of dollars, why are you not
graduating students on time? Maybe maybe that's actually where he
should direct his anger.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Hey Matt, checking out your your your website, the collegefix
dot com. You've got a couple of articles up when
there that really really piqued my interest. One was conservative
events repeatedly blocked every Riddle Aeronautical University. Now, I'll say
why this is well, Number one, I love anything that flies. Okay,

(01:15:45):
even if you throw a pen across the room, I'd
fall in love with it. But every Riddle, and I
bring this up because every Riddle this is a terrific college,
and so many, so many commercial pilots begin their career
with training at every rental university. And any time that

(01:16:10):
that a university gets involved with things like this where
they're where they're isolating conservative events and whatever, I say,
that's not the purpose of the university. Like Emory Redtle,
Emory Riddle should be training aeronautical engineers, pilots. That's what

(01:16:33):
their focus should be, not on isolating conservatives for from
liberals and discriminating against anyone. What's your thoughts?

Speaker 7 (01:16:45):
Yeah, well, I think I mean the big problem here
is that basically conservative voices are being silent, so the
college won't let Chloe Cole apparently apparently this is some
this is related to an event. An employee coal is
she is a woman and she had a gender confusion.

(01:17:06):
She believed she was a man. So when she was
a teen, she had her breast removed and then she
now regrets it and now lobbies lobbies, you know, for
laws protecting protecting minors. You know, it's also kind of
unfortunately you can't have events outside when they have campuses
in Florida and Arizona, you know, out here. You know,
if you're in Chicago, you're gonna kind of be limited
limited to outside events to certain months. And of course,

(01:17:30):
you know, forcing people indoors is a way to limit
how many people can hear the message, to limit the
the way of sharing that message. You know, I used
to work for a turning point, and so the nice
thing about outdoor events, outdoor tabling is I could have
my banners, my booklets set up at a table and
so people can walk by, they can stop by, you

(01:17:53):
can pick the busy party campus they don't want to
listen to you, they can walk around. If I had
to set up in a classroom, there's gonna be few
people that you know that see that display, and so
you know, even if this is neutrally applied, then it
still limits free speech even for liberal students, and it
makes it harder for students to engage on important political topics.

(01:18:15):
You know, I would hope that if there was someone
supporting abortion or transgenderism, you know, I'd want them to
be out there right, easy to access, so that students
can go up and challenge them on their on their beliefs.
And so this is obviously a loss for free speech.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Well, the Trump derangement syndrome is life and will on
college campuses. You've got three articles here and I'll just
read the time and you can say what you want
about a Trump dangerous and racist to keep men out
of women's prisons. Teacher wishes all Trump's supporters Choken suffer

(01:18:52):
long gets placed on leave Duke journalism. Panels says Trump
creates culture of intimidation and fear. Trump derangements syndrome alive
and well in college campus is Matt.

Speaker 6 (01:19:10):
Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (01:19:11):
And there's actually one one more in that buzz column
University Tweed, a law professor. Trump serves wealthy white American men,
which must be why, like I said, half of Latino men.

Speaker 6 (01:19:22):
Voted for him.

Speaker 7 (01:19:23):
Yeah, I mean this is and that we could write
sixty more articles right about what I've seen. For example,
this is the Duke example of Besaus's pen is that
universities host these expert panels and amazingly all the experts
agree Trump is bad. There was one at Penn I
haven't written up yet that they had four experts on

(01:19:46):
abortion and obstetrics and they all agreed Trump Trump was bad.
And one of them actually didn't even state what the
emergency medical treatment law is, but she she completely missed,
completely botched it. But yeah, I mean you can tell
it's just anything Trump does must be bad. I don't
under really understand the how it's like racist to keep

(01:20:07):
men out of women's prisons. What these professors do a
lot is they'll like stay ninety years ago someone held
a view that's vaguely similar to what Trump believes. They're racist.
Therefore Trump is is racist. And that's why, you know,
that's why I think a lot of d there's a
lot of pushback against DII anti racism because the term
racism doesn't even mean anything anymore, because if everything is racist,

(01:20:30):
nothing's racist, right and H And yeah, I mean there
was a teacher like you mentioned she you know, she
apparently she makes one hundred and sixty five thousand dollars
a year, by the way, public school teacher. And you know,
she wrote on social media about how you know she
you know, she was basically implying that they she wants

(01:20:51):
these Trump supporters to to choke to death, or at
least she was saying it metaphorically, and she was placed
on leave. You know, we're only half we're only a
week and half into the new administration, so I can
only imagine, you know, things will things will only get
worse as he signs more laws. I will say that

(01:21:13):
one thing he's likely to sign soon or they've already signed,
is this bill late the Lake and Riley Act in
honor of that Georgia nursing student who was killed by
an illegal immigrant. And this bill will basically be forced
deportations if someone has a theft conviction. So I can
only imagine how that that will be twisted. And but

(01:21:35):
I'm sure the college you know, I can tell you
the College Fix will keep covering these stories of the
college ficks dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Matt Lamb, We've went to thank you for joining this
here in Conservative Commanda I'm glad we can make this
a regular segment here in Conservative Command this because it's
so interesting to see what's going on on our college
campus to sing. You know what, I think Steve morn
was right. Better off give your kids to fifty thousand
and let it play video games. Bet Lamb tell us

(01:22:03):
how folks out there can hook up with the College Fix.

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Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
All right, bet Lamb again, thank you so much for
joining us, Take care and God bless thanks and you
are listening to watching the Conservative Command as with sharing
Angelumric Trader on you have. This time, We're going to
be joined by Paul kemin R. He's the lead counsel
for the National Legal and Policy Center. We're going to

(01:23:36):
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Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
And Welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commander's Radio show.
We share at Angle and you're Shirley rich Trader coming
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of the a UN TV Network. Sharon new guest, new introduction,
Take it away.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
Well, actually it's an old friend of ours, Paul Kaminar,
who is the lead counsel for the National Legal and
Policy Center and LPC, former adjuct professor at Georgetown University
Law Center, teaching a separation of powers a pillot advocacy Seminar.

(01:25:58):
He's been a long time senior at the Administrative Conference
of the United States and a member of its Judicial
Review Committee. Paul, Welcome back to the Conservative Commando's Radio show.

Speaker 6 (01:26:11):
Thank you for having me my pleasure.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Well, it's our pleasure because we want to talk about
this birthright citizenship. It seems like there's a controversy there,
but in talking to others, I don't see what the
problem is. So maybe you can kind of go through
the fourteenth Amendment explain what the controversy is and why

(01:26:38):
we need to I guess accept people that are born
in this country as citizens.

Speaker 6 (01:26:45):
Sure. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:26:47):
The fourteenth Amendment has a very simple closet there that
says all persons born are naturalized in the United States
to the jurisdiction thereof COBBA are citizens of the United
States and the state of which they reside. Now, these

(01:27:10):
lawsuits that have been filed against Trump positioned an executive
order the other day that said, no, wait a minute,
if you're an illegal alien mother and your husband's unlawful,
whether he's here or he's an alien himself outside the country,
your children are not automatically citizens if you give them

(01:27:35):
birth on US soil. And so there's seven lawsuits filed
by several states, civil rights groups, etc. That says that
this executive order is unconstitutional because for years it was
generally understood that if you're here by hook or crook

(01:27:58):
and you have a baby bingo, that baby's a citizen. Well,
Donald Trump and executive order says not so fast. So
now the liberal activists and the media only look at
the first clause of the fourteenth Amendment that says all

(01:28:19):
persons born in the United States are citizens in the
United States. But they leave out the clause quote and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof. So what does that clause mean. Well,
it doesn't simply mean that they're subject to what's called

(01:28:40):
the territorial jurisdiction, meaning sure, these are legal aliens, are
in the territory of the United States, that they commit crimes,
or their children grew up and commit crimes, their subject
of prosecution.

Speaker 6 (01:28:56):
Yeah, of course we know that.

Speaker 8 (01:28:58):
But if you look at the constitutional history of that
phrase from my eighteen sixty six eighteen sixty eight, it
meant that whether the person is subject to the political
jurisdiction of the United States, meaning do they owe their

(01:29:18):
political allegiance to the United States. That's why, for example,
if ambassadors from foreign countries that are here, if the
woman is pregnant as a baby here, that baby is
not a US citizen. Why because they don't know their

(01:29:39):
allegiance to the United States. They owe their allegiance to
whatever country there came from. Right, let's look at the
Indians in the United States. Well would say, well, you know,
if Indians have a baby, it's born in the United States.
So therefore they were say, yeah, they're citizen in the

(01:30:01):
United States. Not by the fourteenth Amendment. No Congress had
to pass the law in nineteen twenty four making it
clear that Indians are citizens of the United States, because
who do they allowe their allegiance to they're Indian tribe,

(01:30:23):
which is a semi autonomous government.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:30:27):
So therefore, just because.

Speaker 8 (01:30:29):
You happen to be on US soil, you're the legal immigrant,
you don't know your allegiance to the United States. You're
not a citizen or you're not naturalized. If anything, you
owe your allegiance to the country that you came from.
It's the same thing with another part of the Executive
Order called birth terrorism. This is where a woman's pregnant,

(01:30:53):
those in a foreign country, applies for a visitors visa
to go visit a relative or Disney World, and she's,
you know, a nine month pregnancy. She knows once she
gets there she's going to have a baby. Baby's born
in the hospital. After a week, they get back on
the plane, go back home, and then they say, great,

(01:31:15):
we now have a US citizen baby. Let's get all
those those security benefits and everything. Well, now the Executive
Order says, no, no, no, we're counting that, disqualifying that
as well, because you're not owing your allegiance to the
United States.

Speaker 6 (01:31:32):
So that's it in a nutshell.

Speaker 8 (01:31:34):
And now we're in litigation and there's a case spent
several cases seven and the government just filed their brief
yesterday earlier today on this. So this is going to
go up to the Supreme Court eventually, where they ultimately
rule in terms of whether this fourteenth Amendment allows for

(01:31:59):
birth right citizenship, which, by the way, most countries don't
have that. The European countries used to have that, but
they don't. Countries in South America, Central America do have
that provision. But this is again by no means a
universal policy of countries, and.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
It's been something that we've kind of, well, several attorneys
have wanted to get to the Supreme Court for a
long time because it seems clear on the face of it,
as you explain it, but we really do need a
judicial decision on this, don't we.

Speaker 6 (01:32:42):
Well, yeah, and you will be getting it already.

Speaker 8 (01:32:44):
There is one district court who put a halt to
Donald Trump's executive order. Of course, that's just one district
court that has to be further briefed in that court,
and then it will go up to this court, the
state of Washington. So this will go up to the
Ninth Circuit, and then there's other ones in three or

(01:33:06):
four other circuits around the country that will be percolating up.

Speaker 6 (01:33:10):
So the courts will decide it, no doubt about it.

Speaker 8 (01:33:13):
But then the ultimate court that we'll decided is the
Supreme Court. But it has to percolate up through these courts.
Give it another you know, three four or five months
before it lands on the Supreme Court docket.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
Well, it really goes that quickly. I mean, it seems
like it takes forever for something to get to the
US Supreme Court.

Speaker 6 (01:33:36):
Right, generally it does.

Speaker 8 (01:33:39):
But here they're asking for injunctive relief, and under the
rules of procedure, they're saying, we need an answer right
away because we have illegal immigrants here. They're about to
give birth, and you know, is there a child going
to be a citizen or not?

Speaker 6 (01:33:54):
So the courts may act quickly.

Speaker 8 (01:33:58):
The Trump administration, I said, wait a minute, there's really
no rush because even if we lose, the babies that
are born in the interim can then be designated citizens
in the United States. But for the inter imperiod while
we litigated, there's really no harm coming their way whether

(01:34:18):
they're designated as citizen or not. So you know, but
I think that the course will want to get this
going quickly, so you know, maybe not six months within
a year, but certainly not much longer than that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
I don't think I would hope not, because it seems
like we have some urgency with these things that it's not.
I mean, Trump is going to be president forever, so
we do need to kind of expedite this. The other
thing that seems a little bit precarious is that there
are already anchor babies here and they have now material.

(01:35:00):
They're all there's some that are over twenty one, and
they're able now to sponsor their illegal parents. How does
this affect that whole process.

Speaker 6 (01:35:12):
Yeah, that's a good question.

Speaker 8 (01:35:13):
I mean those anchor babies, like you said, they're you know,
eighteen twenty one, they've been voting already, they're paying.

Speaker 6 (01:35:22):
Taxes and all that.

Speaker 8 (01:35:24):
I think that this would not be retroactively applied. I
think it only would be prospectively applied once the court
rules that it's constitutional. So I don't think there's a
problem there. The other problem that's been raised is that

(01:35:46):
there are certain people here that are applying for asylum,
and under the current asylum laws, they're allowed to be
here while they apply, and therefore, if they have a
baby while they're in this limbo status, does that baby
become a citizen? I think those are you know, some

(01:36:10):
exceptional cases. I'm not sure how that would come out.
But in terms of the ones that have already been
here for a long time and have had children that are,
you know, children of illegal immigrants, I think their citizenship

(01:36:30):
status is is legitimate in the past, but not going
forward or future babies born.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
How about if they want to sponsor a parent or
family member for citizenship, will they be allowed to do
that since it's kind of recognized that that's how they
got here they're an anchor baby. Does that change their
type of citizenship in any way?

Speaker 8 (01:36:59):
Yeah, I don't know how that would work. But if
they're already legally a citizen, they can apply to have
relatives come in. But that process I think is being
changed in and of itself, regardless of this birthright citizenship program.

Speaker 6 (01:37:17):
So so watch.

Speaker 8 (01:37:19):
To stay tuned for that in terms of how that
anchor baby process works out eventually.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
No, it's it's it's really kind of sticky. Doesn't that
cause a rush to the border. I mean, I know
he's he's closing those borders down, but doesn't that make
it even more essential that you get over and get
that baby in the United States while this thing is
being cast about in the courts.

Speaker 6 (01:37:50):
Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 8 (01:37:52):
I mean, the whole purpose of this executive order is
to act as a deterrent for people coming over to
have their anchor baseabies, etc. But in the short term
it may have a reverse effect by encouraging those women
to come over while they're pregnant to have the baby.

(01:38:13):
But again, you know, the executive order is valid right
now through most of the country. It's only been struck
down by one court in Washington, so you know they
may try to because right now, I think the executive
order says that comes into effect within I think it

(01:38:36):
says thirty days whatever. So barring any court nationally striking
it down, that executive order is is operative. So I
don't think there'll be that many babies trying to sneak
through to try to get this baby born while the

(01:38:57):
case is still pending.

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click on that. I want to thank our guests for
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Council for the National Legal and Policy Center, and we're
discussing birth rates to this and ship and I think
we're going to be touching on DEI controversies in a
little bit. But hey, Paul, thank you for holding through
that break. We appreciate your time. Paul, are you a

(01:42:15):
betting man?

Speaker 6 (01:42:18):
Not really, but not really.

Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
Okay, see what this whole argument of this is going
to go to the Supreme Court. That has me concerned.
I mean, it's going to go no other direction. But
when it gets to the Supreme Court, it does have
me concerned because there's at least four justices on the
Supreme Court that I don't care what the constitution is,

(01:42:41):
I don't care what the law is. They're going to
vote liberal. And then there's John Roberts. Then there's John Roberts.
We never know what he is going to do. The
two new justices any Coney Barrett and Bret Kevanall We
don't know what they're going to do, but it seems

(01:43:01):
to me it helped me out with this point that
the Supreme Court has a tendency to look at precedent
or history. And another what I'm getting is when Roe v.
Wade was being discussed, what we heard as well, this
has been the law for fifty years. It's precedent, all right.

(01:43:23):
We hit that, and then the Second Amendment. There's a
phrase in the Second Amendment that says the right to
keep the bare arms shall not be infringed. But it's
infringed upon all the time, Paul, all the time. So
I'm very concerned about this getting to the Supreme Court.
Would you share those concerns?

Speaker 6 (01:43:44):
Sure?

Speaker 8 (01:43:45):
Well, I mean, the worst case scenario is that the
Supreme Court doesn't take it. We still have the current
policy in effect, but by that time, the Trump administration's
border protection we'll be keeping out these illegal citizens. In

(01:44:06):
any event, so the birth right option or phenomena will
be reduced regardless of how this comes out. But in
terms of it going to Spreme Court, how will the
court rule? Well, you know, that's a good question. The
conservatives up there, if they stick to originalism, which many

(01:44:31):
of them. Do the Conservatives, as they did with overturning
their Roe v.

Speaker 6 (01:44:36):
White case.

Speaker 8 (01:44:38):
I think they'll say, well, wait a minute, Yes, we
had a decision in eighteen ninety eight that the left
has been sighting up until today why birthright citizenship is automatic.
But that decision, and that involved, briefly, a couple that

(01:45:01):
were from China. They lived in the Northwest. They lived
here many years, they had a business, et cetera. And
they had a son born here and then when he
was like twenty one.

Speaker 6 (01:45:12):
He went to China.

Speaker 8 (01:45:14):
And then when he came back, this was a time
that in place, we have what it was called the
Chinese exclusion laws. Those are the laws that kept out
cheap China labor coming in the United States. But he
comes back and they said, well, wait a minute, you
can't come in because we have a law that says

(01:45:36):
we got to keep out Chinese immigrants for this labor
problem we have here.

Speaker 6 (01:45:43):
He goes, but wait a minute, I was born in
the United States.

Speaker 8 (01:45:47):
And he said, well, yeah, but your parents were originally
born in China. On Supreme Court, in a very long opinion,
analyzed that and ruled that he was allowed to be here,
that he was not subject to the Chinese Exclusion Act
because his parents had a business here. They've been here

(01:46:09):
for many years, paying taxes, and they basically only looked
to this country for allegiance, not a foreign country. So
that was the one case, but there was many different qualifications.
To what I'm getting at is, if that's the case
that the leftist hanging their hat on, which it appeers

(01:46:30):
that they are, I think the Supreme Court will look
at that case very carefully as they did Roe v.

Speaker 6 (01:46:37):
Wade, and say, well.

Speaker 8 (01:46:39):
Wait a minute, you know, that's not what this case
really stood for. Because if you look at the legislative
history of the birthright Citizenship Constitutional Amendment in eighteen sixty eight,
that came right after the eighteen sixty six Civil Rights
Act that said all persons born in the United States

(01:47:02):
not subject to a foreign power, our citizens. So the
senator who had that, Senator Trumbull, also introduced the fourteenth Amendment,
And there was never any idea that, g whiz, are
we changing what it means to say subject to the
jurisdiction thereof we were all thinking that it was a
political jurisdiction. We're changing it to simply territorial jurisdiction, and

(01:47:27):
that wasn't the thinking until you know, back in the
mid twenty nineteen twenties, nineteen thirties, that started to shift.
So I think the Supreme Court, if they take a
hard look, we'll look at this that I think there'd
be maybe five votes, which is all you need to

(01:47:49):
uphold President Trump's executive order.

Speaker 1 (01:47:53):
All right, Paul, let's witch gears. Let's switch gears to DEI.
You know, there's been recently a lot of stories, encouraging
stories about companies that are reversing their DEI policies and
scrapping their DEI programs. And I believe it's a very
good thing. And what did it get? Your take on DEI?

(01:48:16):
Have we seen the not the end of it, because
it's still around, but the beginning of the end of it?

Speaker 6 (01:48:22):
Yes, sure.

Speaker 8 (01:48:23):
And it started, of course last week with President Trump's
executive order, which ordered the elimination of DEI programs within
the federal government. That's all the president has authority to do.
Right now, they are shutting down all these DEI programs.
Secretary Seth of the Department of Defense issues and order,

(01:48:49):
getting rid of DEI and doctrination in the Defense Department,
and all these programs are being eliminated, etc. But then
you mentioned, well, how our corporate handling it. Well, what
we argued here at the National Legal Policy Center, we
have a corporate Integrity project where we own stock and

(01:49:10):
all the major corporations, and that allows us to put
forward shareholder proposals at the annual shareholder meetings. And what
we do is we go in there and we say
to Disney and Target, etc. That you guys should get
rid of your DEI programs because it's not only bad policy,

(01:49:33):
but maybe un constitutional in the way it's basically requiring quotas,
and the Supreme Court, as we all know in the
Harvard University case, basically struck down the DEI program there
where the admissions officer gave extra credit, so to speak,
if you were a minority.

Speaker 6 (01:49:54):
So you're right.

Speaker 8 (01:49:56):
The corporations are starting to get heed the warning that
the DEI is not being favored among the American people,
and a lot of them are cutting back, as we've argued,
any shareholder proposals. But there are a couple of holdouts.
For example, Costco the other day doubled down and said, no,

(01:50:19):
we're keeping our.

Speaker 6 (01:50:20):
DEI program and you haven't.

Speaker 8 (01:50:24):
You had Reverend Al Sharpton the other day give out
one hundred and fifty dollars gift cards to all his
followers that say, go spend this at Costco to show
them we support the DEI. McDonald's who said, yeah, we're
gonna get rid of the DEI. But then we started
to scratch the surface that a lot of them are

(01:50:44):
disguising their DEI program. So there's a lawsuit filed last
week against McDonald's because they have a scholarship program and
who's eligible to apply for the scholarship only minorities? Oh,
can you say discrimination? So that suits pending, and so

(01:51:07):
a lot of these companies are starting.

Speaker 6 (01:51:08):
To get religion on this.

Speaker 8 (01:51:10):
And the tone set by President Trump with the executive
branch of government, I think is permeating throughout corporate America
and also through academia and so forth. And finally we're
going to get rid of it. And he also, by
the way, revoked said under Linden made Johnson's Affirmative Action

(01:51:34):
executive order, that's the famous one in nineteen sixty eight
that take that said we shall have affirmative action, and
that was then distorted over the years to mean not just.

Speaker 6 (01:51:48):
Affirmative action, but affirmative results.

Speaker 8 (01:51:52):
And that led to, well, we think are illegal discriminatory
programs in the government and contracting or you have these
a government contract programs which are called minority set aside
program So the government has a contract, say that Bill
Rhodes or something like that, and they have bids come

(01:52:13):
in and there comes a bid from a minority on
contract who's higher than the other company that's white on.
But they go, well, you get the contract. You'll wait
a minute, I'm the lowest bidder. Sorry, you got the
wrong skin color. So that kind of stuff is going
to be going to the wayside as well.

Speaker 1 (01:52:33):
Well, Paul. One thing the way, and I were very
sad about one company ending their DEI sensitivity policy was
a Starbucks. And the reason we're so sorry they've ended it.
When we're on the road traveling, we would always use
look for a Starbucks to make a bathroom break, you know.

(01:52:55):
But now now they're saying you have to be a customer,
you have to buy. I'm not spending six dollars for
a cup of coffee, Paul, I'm not.

Speaker 8 (01:53:03):
Well, yeah, but at least they're not saying, well, if
you're black. You can go without being a paying customer.
But if you're why you got to buy your six
dollars cup of coffee, then then you got a good
lawsuit on your hands.

Speaker 1 (01:53:16):
Well, let's talk about Costco. Let's talk about Costco. Let's
say that you own stock in Costco. Doesn't doesn't cont No,
I don't. I'm saying, let's say you do.

Speaker 6 (01:53:29):
Well, you do.

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
Well. Don't they have a fiduciary duty to make profits
or as much profits for you a stockholder of that company,
and wouldn't wouldn't you have grounds for a lawsuit against
Costco because they're putting DEI above profits.

Speaker 6 (01:53:53):
Well, that's a good point.

Speaker 8 (01:53:54):
They do have a fiduciary duty to maximize the value
of the stock uh or the shareholders, because it's the
shareholders that own the kind of company. But at the
same time they come back and argue, well, if you
look at our DEI program, it actually enhances the value
of our stock because that.

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
Anheuser Busch wouldn't tell you that, or the stockholders the
van Heiser Busch couldn't tell you that. I mean, after
the Brandon Mels dainty thing, the value of that company
sunk like a rock.

Speaker 6 (01:54:29):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 8 (01:54:30):
I'm just saying that that's would be Costco's argument. But nevertheless,
those kinds of lawsuits are very difficult because you have
to show an economic connection between that program and the
stock market. But I think the better argument is basically
with respect to the customers and saying, look, we're not

(01:54:54):
going to patronize a company that that engages in that
kind of discriminant although you have people like Al Sharpton
going the other way, Well, we, on the other hand,
we're gonna patronize because they do. So that's not the
marketplace decide that kind of challenge to it. But I
think overall it'll come down to more legal challenges where

(01:55:18):
say somebody who's a white applicant for a job at
Costco or wants to get a promotion and it's passed
over because of the DEI program, then that's a clear
lawsuit to be brought, just like the Harvard case was,
and I think that's where any legal action will be

(01:55:39):
resolved as opposed to a shareholder derivative lawsuit.

Speaker 1 (01:55:44):
Is the DEI victim of the Wuhan Fleu fraud. And
the reason I say that is I honestly think that
we're seeing a lot of changes, especially in schools. It
is because parents were finally learning what their kids are
being taught in.

Speaker 9 (01:56:00):
School, and they looked at that and said, we don't
agree with your policies, and therefore they started to look
at other policies that businesses and government was doing.

Speaker 1 (01:56:14):
Like THEI. Could you make an argument for the hunt
flu fraud having a partner responsibility for the end of
things like THEI?

Speaker 6 (01:56:24):
And well, yeah, I mean there is some connection there.

Speaker 8 (01:56:28):
Because of the flu, the students had to stay home
and the parents got to see what their kids are
being fed academically, and then they'd go to the school
board meetings and say we don't want this kind of
DEI or what they called at that time and still
is called critical race theory, where they say, look, Johnny,

(01:56:50):
you're white, and you're the oppressor of Susie, who's your
black playmate, and therefore we're going to have to look
at each other by our color of our skin. And
you go, wait a minute, these kids are colored blind.

Speaker 6 (01:57:04):
They play together.

Speaker 8 (01:57:05):
Now you have our schools saying oh no, you got
to look at everybody and the race, sex, ethnic origin
type of a lens and that is basically the form
of a DEI, and that permeates through the educational system.
So that's being rooted out, like I said, by alert
parents going to school board meetings, uh and demanding that.

(01:57:29):
And thank god we've got the new Justice Department because
we'll no longer have Barrick Garland's FBI calling these parents
domestic terrorists because they're going to school board meetings complaining
about the junk that their students are being fed. Uh. So, yes,
that whole DII program is being rooted out at the

(01:57:50):
government level, corporate level, and academia, high.

Speaker 6 (01:57:55):
Schools and grade schools level as well.

Speaker 1 (01:58:00):
Needs to die.

Speaker 6 (01:58:01):
Well, that's right. It should be d I E d
I E d E. And the thing with the DEI,
we haven't.

Speaker 8 (01:58:07):
Said what that stands for, but I'm sure everybody knows
it's diversity, equity and inclusion d EI. Well, right there
in the middle the word equity. You go, wait a minute,
I thought we were in favor of equality. Where does
this equity come in? Inequity?

Speaker 6 (01:58:28):
Is the left.

Speaker 8 (01:58:31):
Progressive stuff saying we need to have equal outcomes, not
equal opportunities, Because it was Martin Luther King who said
we should judge our citizens by the content of their character,
not by the color of their skin, which is what
DEDI is all about. So that was anathema to the

(01:58:54):
true meaning of civil rights and affirmative action.

Speaker 1 (01:58:58):
Paul Kamonart, lead counsel for the National Legal and Policy Center. Paul,
give us the website and how people could contact you
were keep in touch with you and find out more
about n l PC.

Speaker 6 (01:59:13):
Sure, very simple.

Speaker 8 (01:59:14):
I just contact us to see what we all do
at our website.

Speaker 6 (01:59:18):
It's very simple.

Speaker 8 (01:59:19):
It's n LPC dot org rg n LPC dot org,
and you see all the good stuff we're doing, going
after these woke corporations and getting involved in some of
these constitutional cases and so forth. So we appreciate any
support we can get.

Speaker 1 (01:59:41):
And Paul Kevin are we always appreciate you joining us
here in the Conservative Commanders. Take care and godless you bet,
thank you well, Sharon Guests, wraps it up. That wraps
it up. We are out of time. We gotta run
and we gotta go. Take care, Godless. We'll see tomorrow. Right,
that's going to be on TV and on radio.

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