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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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(00:28):
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(00:51):
And George, welcome back, Welcome back to Conservative Commandos.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
It is great to be here. This is a great
place to be because the Conservative Commandos helps America be
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facts and realities. And as a result of that, because
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(01:19):
on being eternally vigilant.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
So it's great to.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Be here, very to have you here with me today.
George and George speaking of what's going on, Well, George,
what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Well, there's lots of things going on, But maybe we
can start off with the tax policy. There's chasing citizens
out of liberal jurisdictions because one of the most predictable
patterns in modern American politics is the cycle of high taxes,
high spending, progressive governance followed by economic decline and population flight.
For example, we've seen that in California. They have great

(01:53):
weather in California. It's a beautiful state, and so it
used to be that every year it would grow in population.
Now for years, leaders like Gavin Newsom who have been
promising higher taxes, more government spending and all of that.
They've said, of course it would create a better society
and more prosperous society. Of course it hasn't. All the
problems poor education, homelessness, crime, all those things have been

(02:17):
going up. So California's experienced historic population decline and businesses
are leaving the state, and so it's shrinking.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Their tax base.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
So I expect they'll probably be raising taxes even more
on the smaller tax base. But major companies, entrepreneurs, middle
class families have packed up and said I got to
get out of here, and they're moving to places with
lower taxes like Texas, Florida, Tennessee and many other places.
And so it's just very interesting to me that the
regulatory climate also being more people want to get out.

(02:47):
And now, of course New York City appears to be
headed in the exact same direction. With New York's Mayor
Zorn Mundami, he's campaigned heavily on the familiar progressive promise
to tax the rich. When government builds a mass of
spending commitments, they quickly discover something important. There simply aren't
enough wealthy people to fund their agendas indefinitely. Politicians and

(03:10):
everybody look for new revenue, which usually means they tax
everyone else that stayed and then they start leaving too.
So this is exactly what's happening now. Madamie is reportedly
proposing a dramatic overhaul of New York's state tax, raising
the rate from sixteen percent to fifty percent. So it's
just kind of crazy that he's doing that. He's also

(03:32):
slashed the exemption threshold, which used to be more than
seven million. Now it's down to just seven hundred thousand.
So basically, they'll be taxing people about three times the
amount they used to and they'll be taxing about ten
times as much money as they used to, and so
this will be one of the most aggressive of state
policy taxes in the United States. But this doesn't just

(03:54):
target billionaires. It hits small family businesses, small business owners,
family owned companies, middle class families. Because an example would
be anymore, if you own a home, you're probably a
millionaire technically, not that you have a clay cash, but
that's what's happened in many of these jurisdictions. And so

(04:15):
you want to pass it on to your children, and
the government to say, nope, can't give it to your kids.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
We're going to take our share first.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
We'll take half or more of it than that, and
your kids will get the other half. And so it's
just kind of irony because they've been taxing you, of
course on this your entire life through the income tax
and other things, and then all of a sudden, because
you've been able to accumulate them, they want to take
half of that, so New York is risking repeating the
same mistakes have already driven millions of people out of

(04:44):
states like California.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
What do you think, well, Cheorish, I think you're right, Indiana.
It's not an irony to say that they were warned.
The people of New York City were warned exactly what
was going to happen. My only concern is these people
that are leaving these side tax states take their stupid
politics with them to wherever they go, be it Florida

(05:06):
and North Carolina, South Carolina, or Texas. But it's not
just it's not just New York, it's not just California.
We're seeing this in every blue state Georgia that the
cost of living. I saw a chart the other day
that listed the ten states with the highest cost of living.

(05:28):
There is only one of the states that had a
Republican governor, and that was Florida. And for instance, you
talk about New York City, you talk about New York,
you talk about California. I also saw another chart with
this state with the highest cost of living is New Jersey.
So what are all these states have in common, Well,

(05:50):
they're all run by Democrats. Democrat governors Democrat legislatures. I
saw the thing today that they're talking about turn the
lights off in New York at eleven PM. I mean,
this is crazy, George. You know the old adage is
if you or I don't want to eat meat, we

(06:10):
won't eat meat. But if a Democrat doesn't want to
eat me, he doesn't want anybody'd eat me. So if
a Democrat wants the lights off at eleven is rather
than turning his lights off at eleven, he wants everybody's
lights off at eleven. A Democrat, you know, thinks, oh,
high taxes are great, well, he woulds you to pay
those side taxes. George, this is where the change happens.

(06:33):
I can guarantee they'll find no way around it. You know.
Million It's it's like the mantra is always the same. Well,
we're gonna hit the We're gonna hit the billionaire. Like
Bernie Sanders, you just say we're going to hit the
billionaires and millionaires. Notice he doesn't say the millionaires anymore.

(06:54):
It's just the billionaires. And why is that? Well, Bernie Sanders,
the socialists. The man the honeymoon in Moscow is a millionaire.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
He owns two homes.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
That are worth over a million dollars each. So it's
like it's good for you, but not good for me.
You know, we want we're gonna hit you with these
high taxes, but we know we're gonna hit you with
the high taxes because we can get away from them.
Another thing, let's get away from the idea that well,
when they say we're only going to hit the businesses,

(07:26):
we're going only going to hit the corporations. Businesses don't
pay taxes, George. Businesses paid costs. The the pass on
the cost of taxes into their goods and services. So
that means a consumer is stuck with these higher taxes.
And that's why states like New York, New Jersey, California,

(07:49):
that's why the cost of living is so much higher there.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
In my opinion, yeah, I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I think the other thing that it does, it does
damage to the company's ability to invest in new operations
and to pay its employees more So with these government taxes,
all they end up doing, basically like you said, is
it's a tax on consumers, and it's a tax on
the employees, harming their ability to have the business grow

(08:17):
and for example, have their wages go up and have
more capital be invested in the company and things like that,
which makes their jobs more secure.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
So this is what leftism does. It's just crazy.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
And you mentioned, for example, that they kind of exempt
themselves from these things, and that's perfect. Left loves to
do that. For example, in Virginia, Abigail Spaandberger and the
Democrats in the legislature just passed some massive gun bands
and guess who they explicitly exempted from all those laws
themselves themselves.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
In other words, well, what is your justification for that, George,
that they need to protect themselves? Is that what they're saying.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
I haven't heard their justification.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Above using a firearm in a dangerous method, dangerous way.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, it's just very weird. I don't know yet.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, because it has passed, it's just recently, so we'll
find out what their argument is. But I suspect what
it really is is we have the right to pass
laws to screw you and because we won the election.
And it's these people have totalitarian instincts and they reveal
them all the time. That's why they lie.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
All the time.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
They campaign saying that they're moderate, that this or that.
And you know, she for example, at Spanberger said that
she opposed gerrymandering and when she was running for office
that it would damage democracy if you did that. And
guess what she has the most aggressive gerrymandering plan in
the country.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Well, Georgia. Again, it doesn't happen in just Virginia, California,
and New York, New York City. In New Jersey, they
just selected a worldly bird pilot as good and that's that.
Mikey Shuryl, also known as Rebecca Scheryl. One of the
very first or actually the very first thing the new

(10:09):
legislature did, was doubled the salary. Now this is a state.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Triple it.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Well, I guess we're lucky in New Jersey. But they
say everybody else has to bite the bullet and whatever,
and we need more taxes, we need this program of
that program. But they always take care of themselves, their friends,
their families first. And you might say, well, don't these
taxes also hit their friends and their families. Well, what

(10:40):
they do is they take their friends and families and
put them in nice, cushy jobs. For instance, between the
state of New Jersey and Pennsylvania, there's something called the
Delaware River Report Authority that supposedly manages and maintains the
bridges between Pennsylvania and New Jersey. There's probably there's four

(11:02):
bridges that they manage. There is the Paco High speed Line.
But you know these bridges were supposed to be free
George as soon as they pay themselves off. Well, what
these governors found that these were very cushy places again
to put their friends and their families. There's also a
cash cow that they could steal from for their pet projects.

(11:27):
So some of these projects that are in these budgets
are absolutely ridiculous and have nothing to do with transportation,
has nothing to do with managing and maintaining these bridges.
Now it's not just the Delaware River Report Authority. There
is also another port authority between New Jersey and New York.

(11:49):
So New Jersey being the armpit of the earth that
it is, you know, have all these cushy places that
these governors and these legislations can put their friends. Give
an idea. In Gloucester County, New Jersey, there was a
politician by the name of John Birch Oficelli who was
in the state legislature. He was also the mayor of

(12:11):
his own little hometown. Well he lost his seat in
the state legislature. So what the higher ups in the
Democrat Party did. They created a new post for John.
He was the director of Film and Video in Gloucester County,
New Jersey. And the idea is, oh, we're going to

(12:32):
bring all this Hollywood money here to Gloucester County, New Jersey.
You know what, George, I never heard of any any
films being shot in Gloucester County, New Jersey. They gave
this guy a salary of one hundred and sixty five
thousand dollars a year, and the idea with a lot

(12:54):
of these government jobs, George as mayor of the little
town he was in Paulsbury, New Jersey. I don't know
what his annual salary was. It was probably under ten
thousand dollars a year. In the New Jersey State Legislature,
his salary was I think it was forty eight thousand. Well,

(13:17):
because he got this job as a director of film
in film and Movies in Gloucester County, New Jersey, he
was given a salary of one hundred and sixty five
thousand dollars. Now, I had that job for about three years.
I don't even know if that job exists anymore, but
he's back in the state legislature. But what they do

(13:39):
is these when these politicians retire whatever job they're in
last Like for him, it was this director of film
and television productions. They take the last three years of
his salary, which was one hundred and sixty five thousand,
and he gets like seventy five percent of that as

(14:02):
his pension for the rest of his life. Now it
wasn't this guy, John Virtue, Charlie. There's other mayors and
part time politicians. Same thing happens. So there was another
guy worked for a Bell telephone company for nineteen years.
He was also the mayor of his little township, which

(14:23):
he got like six thousand. Well, they made him the
director of the Gloucesters County Utilities Commission. Again her sixty
five thousand dollars position he had that he had that
job for six years. That six years was added on
to the nineteen years he was mayor. That give him
twenty five years. That means again he gets seventy five

(14:46):
percent of his of the last three years. This man's
getting over one hundred thousand dollars a year. It's incredible.
That's why states like New Jersey, probably Virginia, probably California,
probably New York. That's why they're so dan Brook, all right,
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Speaker 1 (18:21):
And Welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos with
George Landreth and I'mri Trader. Coming to you from the
Mike Phillis Studios and My Store studios of the au
N TV Network. George, a lot of news is coming
out of your home state of Virginia. Just last week
there was a shooting at Oldman University involving somebody that

(18:43):
came here as an illegal, somebody who was made in
naturalized citizen. A guy up in Michigan last week another
naturalized citizen ran a car into a school, set the
car on fire. Fortunately he didn't kill any children in fact,
and he was the only casualty in this situation. But

(19:05):
here again, another guy that come here from Lebanon was
it became a naturalized citizen. Find out his brother was
a commander in Hesbellah that was killed just a week before. George,
We've got a problem with these sanctuary cities.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, and sanctuary state policies as well. You're exactly right,
because it basically says, and I think it's a racist policy.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
What I mean by that.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Is they pretend that holding somebody from another country made
their skins slightly brown or whatever, that holding someone accountable
for what they did is racist, and it's kind of like, no,
it's racist to pretend their skin color is even relevant.
What's relevant is what they did. An example would be
the guy that did the shooting down in at Old Dominion.

(19:53):
He had terrorist ties. He was put in prison for
his terrorist activities of helping ISIS, and he was released,
and then they were supposed to let ICE know that
he's being released so that they could then deport him
and say goodbye, you're not here anymore. And instead they
did not inform ICE. They secretly released him early.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
And what did he do.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
He killed people and wounded others, which makes the very
politicians who did all this accomplices, their accomplices. They should
be tried for a crime with him because they helped
him out. Like an examp would be if you and
I helped two guys rob a bank. Yeah, you know,
even if we didn't actually rob the bank. Let's say
we stood on a building to kind of let them

(20:36):
know what the police were doing or things like that,
and we served as helpers in their crime, we would
be tried as accomplices for bank robbery. And yet somehow
these people think that they're above the law and that
they can be accomplices, and that they can help murder Americans,
and that somehow it would be outrageous for you to.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Accuse them of that.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
And they even act as if it's outrageous to accuse
this guy of murder because apparently he had slightly darker
skin since he's from the Middle East originally, and that means.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
You're a racist.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
It's like, no, I don't care what color of skin is.
If he were from Skindin Navy or Great Britain, I
would still want him the heck out of our country
because I care about what his actions are, not his
skin color. If he is promoting terrorism and killing Americans,
I want him the heck out of here, and I
do not care what his skin color is. But they

(21:29):
pretend that's the issue. Which does you know that they
are racist and their accomplices to violent crime.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Well, George, I think we can connect the dots in
this situation. A guy that did the killing down at
Old Domini University was.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Quote unquote a naturalized citizen.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
The guy that ran the truck into a school in Michigan,
he was a naturalized citizen. The guy that took a
heavy weapon and shot up the bar street in Austin, Texas,
he was a naturalized citizen. So it's not just I'm

(22:10):
beginning to see a pattern here, George, that where we
really have another area that we really have to investigate.
Are these naturalized citizens. It seems like these at least
these last three terrorist attacks of the two kids, the
two kids that came out of Bucks County, New Jersey,

(22:31):
went into New York City through a couple of hand
grena type devices that were wrapped up with nails and
whatever that didn't go off. Guess what their parents were,
Guess what naturalized citizens. So I think that we have
to look beyond just the people that are here illegally, George.
We have to look beyond people that were let in

(22:54):
by the Biden administration who were on terrorists watch list
and we're released anyway. We've got to look into anybody
that's come into this country, naturalized or not, for potential
terrorist attacks. George. One other thing I wanted to say,

(23:15):
you mentioned this, this guy was released early. I think
you know who else is above the law, George. These
judges that release these people early or do not or
give them half of what the recommended sentences. You know,
these judges, I think have blood on their hands. And

(23:37):
I'd like to know when some parents are some loved
ones of these people that are killed by these people
who were released early. When are they going to sue
the courts and the judges. We've got to stop this.
We've got to protect ourselves, George, because surely the courts

(23:57):
the judges are not going to be able to do it.
In Austin, Texas, the police were there fifty eight seconds
after the first shot was fired. However, in f fifty
eight seconds, three people were killed another dozen injured. We've
got to hold the judges responsible for this, George, the judges,

(24:21):
the courts, and even the police departments themselves. The governors
like Spamberger and Sherl and these other nutty liberal judges
who or governors that permit these sanctuary cities to take place.
Legislatures who for these gun free zones. Look it up.

(24:43):
Look it up. All but one of the mass shootings
in the past fifty years has taken place in a
gun free zone. And you talk about Spamberger. The Virginia
legislature went stricter.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Gun control laws.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
The problem is, George, are these gun control laws?

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
What it means is law abiding citizens won't be allowed
to own guns, but criminals will because that's how it works.
But another story that's along these lines just recently unfolded
because apparently, according to multiple ports, a nineteen year old
Fairfax County High school student an immigrant. He has been
charged with nine counts of assault and battery where numerous

(25:29):
girls reported that he repeatedly groped them in the school
hallways or the period of several months, and apparently nobody
did anything about it. And parents say that there's actually
at least a dozen victims who have come forward, and
so it's just kind of like nutty, Like wait a minute.
So an example would be if you or I had

(25:50):
done that in high school, we would have been suspended
from high school and been put in jail for criminal activities.
But apparently if you're an illegal immigrant, then we're not
going to do that. And the Commonwealth Attorney in Northern
Virginia is Steve de Castano, and he's a George Soros prosecutor,

(26:12):
and he promotes these sort of what he calls reforms.
They're not reforms, their deforms where he basically makes society
less safe and makes it so that offenders get lenient
treatment so they get released and they get to get
out again and do this, which says many times during
his tenure. An example would be there's a guy that

(26:34):
he would try to kidnap children, and he was let out,
and within three days he was caught at a mall
trying to grab three year olds while their mother might
have been looking at a window and was standing on
a few feet away from him, but may not have
had the child in their arms, and he would grab
the kid and run off, and the mother turned around
and saw it and chased after him, and apparently that

(26:57):
local policeman was at the mall and stopped him. But
the bottom line is, this is this kind of garbage
that Soros prosecutors like Defstanto. He's I mean, basically, he's
a criminals. He has been a helpful in criminals in
doing great harm to people.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
And why is he never held accountable Cheorge? Why is
he never sued? Why are charges never brought against him?
You know, the school district, the school district where the
scruping took place. When are the parents going to sue
that school district? Because that's the only thing that school
districts fear are lawsuits. That's why you can't pray in school,

(27:41):
That's why you can't have a Christmas concert school. That's
why you can't have a Christmas tree in school because
they're afraid of being sued by the ACLU. So when
are these parents going to get together and sue. When
are people going to get together ensue these district attorneys.

(28:03):
When are they going to get this together and sue
these judges and courts?

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Well, Niscano, there's a movement to get rid of him.
People are passing out a you know, people signing up
and write a petition because he is a criminal.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Well, you know, they just elected the guy is uh
a secretary of state or attorney general, I forget what
it was in Virginia attorney general who kind of said, gee,
I'd love to see two bullets in my opponent's head.
Or he was the the and his children and you
know what, the people of the stupid people of Virginia

(28:44):
elected this man. They elected this Now, George, let me.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
I do believe if you were either stupid or you're immoral,
But there's no but I can guarantee you anybody who
voted for him is not an intelligent human being, right,
or they're an immoral human being.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Now, George, I'm not advocating this, but you're a resident
of Virginia. I would bet, George, if you said somebody
should put two bullets in this guy's head, and they
ever heard that or watch this show, you could be prosecuted.
Well yeah, and now why was he prosecuted instead of

(29:28):
getting elected?

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, because they would they would hold a conservative responsible
for that. But if you're a liberal and you happen
to be a minority, then it's okay because that's what
they act like. They didn't want to be racist. It's like,
come on, we don't care what color of skin is.
We care what he's doing, what he talks about, what
he says he's going to do. Imagine, for example, saying,

(29:52):
you know, I don't want my children to be raped
or murdered by someone with dark skin, but if they're white, I'm.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Okay with that.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
It's like, really, who's that stupid?

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Show me the.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Person that would say something like that. I've never met
a person that stupid. Nobody I know would ever care
about the skin color the person who harmed their family.
They'd care about the action that was done to harm
their family and want them to be held accountable for it.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
George. Just last week, there was a young man who
was going into to his car. He was approached by
two black boys who had a gun demanded his keys
to his car. Well, you know what, when somebody's pointing
a gun at you, you're kind of like nervous, right,
So instead of giving him giving them his car keys,

(30:41):
he gave them the house keys. The guys couldn't get
into the car.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
They ran.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
They stole a neighbor's car. Now, this young man called
the police, but then he thinks he had second thoughts.
Maybe he shouldn't have called the police on these two
black boys or men because of the way they may

(31:09):
be treated. And now he regret, and these guys were caught,
Now he regrets ever calling the police. I mean, this
is the mentality of these stupid liberals today. This is
getting dangerous. And you know what, George, Criminals don't start

(31:31):
out doing the big things. They start out doing the
little things like throwing rocks, breaking windows, blowing up mailboxes,
holding up somebody on the street, stealing a car. Then
it escalates the bigger and bigger crimes. Sooner or later
someone's dead. And why because they're not held responsible for

(31:54):
the little crimes, Why they're not put in jail, not
to rehabilitate them, because George, there is no rehabilitation, all right,
there is no real abilitation. But at least while they're
locked up, the rest of us are safer. Break time again, buddy,
and this is a Conservative Commandos, But Georgillandros I'm retrader.

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Speaker 1 (35:24):
And Welcome to the Conservative Commandos Radio Show with George
Landers and you're truly Rick Draider, coming to you from the.

Speaker 10 (35:31):
My Pillar Studios, the My Stuart Studios of the a
U n TV network. And Hey George, a longtime friend
is joining us today, and please make that introduction.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Absolutely we always have the very best guests on TV
and radio, and we have Grover Norquest here to prove it.
He is the president of Americans for Tax Reform and
that's a taxpayer adagacy group that he founded in nineteen
eighty five at the request of the then President Ronald Reagan.
And ATR works to limit the size and the cost

(36:06):
of government, and it opposes higher taxes at every level
you can think of, and supports tax reform that moves
us towards taxing income one time and at a lower rate.
And so also I should point out that Grover is
the recipient of the Ronald Reagan Leadership Award.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
So it's great to have you here, Grover. We really
appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
Absolutely good to be with you.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
I wanted to ask you a little bit about just
kind of what's going on with taxes because it's an
important issue, and I guess you know, federally, of course,
the Big Beautiful Bill had some tax cuts in it
and things like that, but we have a bunch of
states that are doing the opposite, and then we also
have some states that are being very strong leaders in
trying to build a strong economy and so forth. So

(36:54):
I just kind of wanted to ask you to help
us understand what's going on there, because in virgin at
least with the new governor, it's like they want to
tax everything. I'm surprised they're not going to tax us
for breathing, you know, I mean the list of stuff
they came up with. But can you give us kind
of a rundown. And also, I think it'd be good
just make sure our viewers and listeners understand why lower

(37:17):
tax rates are important. It's not just so that we
have more money, which is awfully a big deal. I'm
not saying that's an important I'm just saying it also
helps the economy grow so that future generations will be
better off, not just us today because we keep more money,
but in the future we'll build a better future of
stronger America. So if you'll explain all that, I'll be

(37:37):
quiet like you do it.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
Americans for Tax Reform asks all candidates to sign a
pledge that they will never vote for a tax increase.
They can reform taxes, but no net tax increase, keeping
rates where they are or taking them down, but not
a tax increase. So a vast majority of Republicans in
the House and Senative made that commitment two thirds of

(37:59):
all the Republican governors, over one thousand state legislators, and
that's important. Don't raise taxes, don't make things worse. Okay,
then what then? We saw tax reduction each time there's
been a Republican president. Coolidge was helping his cut taxes,
Reagan cut taxes, the Bush's cut taxes somewhat. Trump had

(38:21):
a very significant tax cut that he then made permanent.
And those lower rates matter to economic growth you have
with the Trump tax cuts. Full expensing, so in a
business spends a million dollars to buy new computers for
everybody in the office, or new trucks to make each
individual more productive. That's how wages go up because the

(38:44):
same person with more capital more investment per worker, can
get things done faster, better, safer, and sooner. And that's
why Americans get paid more than people in their countries.
Not because we're nicer, but we have more capital per worker,
more investment per worker than Pakistan or India or in

(39:05):
most other countries, and that's our higher income. So you
want to keep taxes low on investment. You want to
keep taxes low on working. You want to say, if
I work this Saturday. How much of it do I
get to keep? Ah, not too much. I'll take Saturday off.
You reduce the cost of non work whenever you raise taxes.

(39:26):
Why would I work so much if it goes to taxes.
They're fifty states, and once you have a tax cut
at the national level, that helps everybody. But then the
decision has to be made by a company looking to
invest or a worker decided where do I want to
be among the fifty states. Do I want to be
with one of the eight states that has no personal

(39:49):
income tax at the state level none? Do I want
to be in one of the twelve states In addition
to those eight where the legislature has said we're going
to zero, We're fasing our income tax zero. Mississippi has
made that commitment in law. They are phasing their income
tax to zero. So has Oklahoma, and so has West Virginia.

(40:10):
They're looking to speed theirs up. And Kentucky they just
voted to speed theirs up. And Indiana five states that
if they just sat on their hands, the income tax
phased to zero as revenue comes in from economic growth,
and they limit how much they increase spending. There are
twelve states where the leadership says, that's what we're doing.
So where do people move to? And we see this

(40:33):
on U haul's right up and now the census tells
us where are the people. Where are the people? We're
going to look for them in California. Woo. Not as
many people in California as we expected, and more people
in low tax states. So we see that on average,
the top height income tax states, I'm sorry, the top

(40:53):
loser states. The states people leave have higher income taxes
than the ten states that people move to. So it's
not one state or people move for the weather. I always
get a kick out of politicians who say, I think
people are moving from California income tax top rate about
fifteen percent to Texas zero. I think they're moving there

(41:16):
for the weather. No one in the history of Western
civilization has moved out of California for the weather or
into Texas for the Weather's that's not happening. So we
do see people moving. Businesses move, investment moves, jobs move.
People follow your children and grandchildren leave blue states that

(41:38):
where they maybe they were living with you and move
to the states where jobs are being created in low
tax states. So the country's moving. Jobs are created in
the rust belt. Sometimes they say, oh, the other countries
are stealing our jobs. No, if you look carefully, they
moved as far as Tennessee because that's where you got

(42:00):
better labor law and lower taxes.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah, it's kind of an interesting reality, which is people
behave which you might call rationally. If somebody is going
to take more and more of your money and make
it harder and harder to afford things, you might say,
I got to find someplace else, and it may. I
think there was a time when there wasn't too much
difference between the states. There was some difference, but not

(42:25):
at what It wasn't radical, but it's becoming very radical. Now.
You have states like you know, California, that are in
Virginia apparently trying to become the next California, which is
just very unhelpful because during Governor Younkin's term, he.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Built a huge surplus.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
He cut taxes and spending and so there was more
money and it made it possible to cut taxes even more.
And yet Abigail Spanberger wants to increase taxes like crazy,
and so I feel like the economy in Virginia is
going to go firmally downhill. May not in the DC area,
because the economy is basically kind of, if you will,

(43:06):
functions on the strength of the federal government and its
size and so forth and spending. But once you get
outside of that circle right around DC, I think it's
going to be really problematic. And so I just wanted
to ask you, am I being a little too cynical
about that?

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Or are those kind of this history prove.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
That No, that's exactly what's happening. And Virginia and Colorado
are the two states that were once red states, once
had relatively low taxes and limited spending, and both decided
to become big tax states. Sadly, in Colorado, a Republican

(43:44):
governor led the fight to break their Tabor tax Paya
Bill of Rights that limited the growth of spending. And
that's one of the things that even though they often
elected Democrat governors, there was a limit on how much
they could spend, and so it often be ranked by CATO,
the think tank. CATO would rank who's the best governor,
and the governor of Colorado would rank very well. But

(44:06):
it wasn't the governor. It was the tax, the limit
that the court that was in the constitution on how
much he or she could spend. A Republican governor poked
a hole in that spending has gone up. The state
has gone completely blue. Because once you get the government
so big that everybody's either on welfare or getting a
check which they may call work, but it may look

(44:27):
like welfare, you get more government workers getting paid beyond
what's needed to provide serious efforts that are necessary. And
then the same thing happened in Virginia. Twice Republican legislatures
voted for tax increases at the request of Democratic governors,
which they promised would be spent wisely, and all went
to higher pay. They promised it would be roads. No

(44:49):
it wasn't. And now you put enough people on welfare
in government work, and you convince them that the Republican
Party in Virginia, not Youngkin, but the guys coming up
behind before him, and in Colorado, that the Republicans aren't
going to hold the line on taxes. And the Democrats
now have many, many more precinct workers, because that's what

(45:11):
government employees and welfare recipients are as Democratic precinct workers
in waiting, and those states of foot blue and now
they're hurrying. As you mentioned, Spamberger, the new late woman governor.
She wants to massively increase spending and regulations. Her regulations
that she's already signed to do will add the cost

(45:32):
of one thousand dollars a year to people's home heating
costs and air conditioning costs. No benefit at all, just
higher costs, No spending to do anything good, just higher
costs to make everything green and expensive. So you have
a real challenge here. Those are two states that are
heading in the wrong direction. On the other hand, Arkansas

(45:56):
and West Virginia, liberal Democrat states for our hundred years
big spenders, have now flipped two thirds Republican because the
Republicans said we're never raising taxes, and they've held their
word and they've now governed those states at the state
legislature level. South Carolina, North Carolina government and Georgia, all Alabama,

(46:18):
Mississippi all red states. That's the change from one hundred
years of history post Civil War, where those were blue
states that were happy to raise taxes and spending. So
you can change the direction your country, your state goes
in just to elect the right people.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah, Unfortunately, it's you know, like Abigail Spenberger ran claiming
to be a moderate. And I wrote an article back,
and I think I was October pointing out that her
coressional record proof she was not a moderate, didn't have
a moderate sell in her body. And I have to say,
she's proving me right.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
The US Chamber of Commerce in Dorster when she was
running for Congress, because some idiots said we should have
at the points that we should endure some Democrats for
no particular reason. She voted for organized labors buill that
gives you everything they want. She voted against all the
tax cuts. She doesn't have, as you point out, any

(47:17):
pre market, low tax, limited government, free speech efforts that
would matter to people are letting workers keep their rights
to join a union or not join a union. And
she is going to govern as the Democratic Party tells
her to because she's not an independent voice. She was told,
if you do what we want, we'll let you sit

(47:38):
in the big chair.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
That's a very very good point.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
I know I've got lots more to talk about, and
I think in the next segment we can dig even
deeper in some of these tax issues because they're so important.
They deal with the question of affordability, whether people can
afford to live but they also deal with the question
of economic growth, which basically make sure that the next
generation and the following generations can have a better life

(48:04):
because for so long America is always every generation improving,
and the last while, since the left has gone crazy
on us, it's been in collapse, and so it's time
for us to get back to what works. So I
know this, folks, don't go away, because we're gonna have
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Speaker 1 (52:05):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the conservative command of
this radio show with George Landers and yours truly, Rick Trader,
coming to you from the my Pillar studios to my
store of studios of the au n TV network. Grover
Norquest is our guests. He's the President of Americans for
Tax Reforming. Hey, Grover, thank you for holding through that break.

(52:25):
We really do appreciate your time, you know, Grover, being
older than dirt, I do remember history. I remember a
guy by name of Mondale who lost a presidential election
because he promised to raise everybody's taxes. And then you
had another guy, George Bush Senior, who won an election

(52:48):
because he said, read my lips, no new taxes. Well
we know that was a lie, but it did get
him elected at least for one term. But what we're
seeing now in the results in New Jersey, in Virginia,
they elected governors who've promised to drastically raise taxes. In
New York City they have elected a mayor who promised

(53:11):
to drastically raise taxes. But then we see states like
Tennessee where you got movie stars and sports stars moving
there because of the favorable taxes. Grover, are winning or
losing here, buddy.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
We are winning in the long run, in the short
run right now, but in the long run. Because there
was a great comment by a East German communist writer
who when asked about the anti communist rallies in East
Germany shortly after World War Two, and you're not supposed

(53:46):
to have a workers revolt inside a workers paradise, and
asked to explain it, he said, well, I think we
need to elect a new people now, a sort of
a joke, kind of covering for the fact that the
people didn't want what the the communists wanted. But you
can't elect a new people. And here's how you elect
a new people. You govern your state correctly. You have

(54:09):
low taxes, You make it inexpensive to get for people
to get permits to build a house. You reduce taxes
on business investments. So people from all over the world
Abu Dhabi to New York City to nextdoor invest in
businesses in your state. People follow those jobs, families follow

(54:31):
those jobs. And we have seen those states that have
low taxes, particularly low income taxes grow. When I was
a kid, Florida was full of house. Okay, I mean
my father, my grandfather raised cows in Florida, and I
got skyscrapers where he used to have cows walk around.

(54:53):
And it's now more people in Florida than New York.
More people in the state of Florida by about two
million than New York. People leave New York. They move
to Florida. Less regulation, fewer taxes, right to work laws
that allow people to say, I don't want to join
the union. You can't make me in New York. In California,

(55:14):
we can make you join the union. We can make
you pay dues. Sit down, shut up, don't be telling
us anything. You're stuck. That's labor law in those states.
So there's a big difference between the states people move
to and the states that they leave. And what happens
is every ten years we do redistricting. Every ten years

(55:36):
we have a census, and the new census tells us
that in five years, with the new redistricting, because of
the new census, it looks like they'll be nine or
ten more Republican congressmen in red states and nine or
ten fewer Democratic congressmen in those dates. That's a swing
of twenty is that it happened. The Republican majority for

(55:58):
the last two years wouldn't have been three or four.
It's been twenty three or four. And that's in five years.
In another ten years, assuming the Republicans don't go crazier
the Democrats don't get smart, but both continue on the
paths that they're on, it'll be another ten or more
red state congressmen and ten fewer Democrats. Now we've got

(56:21):
a forty vote base for the difference between Republicans Democrats
in Congress. This is the future because the Democrats are
not learning to deregulate. They talk all about affordability. There
are two sides to affordability. When you get a tax cut,

(56:43):
that's a pay increase. A tax reduction. A tax cut
is a pay increase. It makes everything more affordable with
taxes are cut because you have more money to buy
whatever you want. What products are more affordable. Everything's more
affordable if you have lower taxes. If you raise in
a blue state, everybody's poorer and everything's less affordable. Well,

(57:08):
everything is less affordable because you've taken money from people
and they don't have as much money to spend, so
everything's less affordable. Yes, their costs involved, and certainly when
the government has regulations they've made the cost of our
energy too high. That's beginning to stop getting worse and
begin to get better. You're looking at the cost of

(57:28):
a new house. Much a quarter of that is regulations
that can be brought down. We don't need to subsidize anything.
We need to stop expensive regulation and stop taxes that
are that high on those houses.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Well, Garvor being older than dirt, like I am, I
remember the Beatles, Yes, and I remember people like John
Lennon moving out of Great Britain to the United States.
One of the reasons you mentioned was taxes. You know,
at one point there were twelve nations in Europe that
out of wealth set. Now it's down the four. What
did they learn?

Speaker 5 (58:05):
They learned that people like the Beatles, people like tennis stars,
people who invent new products, there's a reason why the
United States has so many unicorns, the companies they've become
worth a billion dollars, and Europe has very few. In
the United States, we have many successful people, most of

(58:27):
them earned it in their lifetime. In Europe, the companies
that are large are one hundred years old, huge steel
milk kind of monopoly or something. They have very few
new companies that they want to tax and regulate our
new companies, but they're not producing it. So the tax
on people's wealth tax, you're right, they're down to four

(58:51):
and only and three of those don't really raise anything.
I think Spain is the stupid one still. But here's interesting.
John Lennon learned to leave and you saw mass a
lot of talent left the I would recommend everybody to
if they're not in the age group that you and
I are, where we love the Beatles and know all

(59:13):
of their songs. Tax Man, where Ringo Star sings, is
about why they left Britain and about how much tax
taxation had gotten to be Taxman worth googling and listening
to it. It's great fun. But in California they're talking
the liberal Democrats are talking about having a new tax

(59:37):
a wealth tax. Only I'm the very rich.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
To start, Oh, to start, that's the way they were to start.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
When the Democrats have a new tax on only they're rich,
they haven't finished the sentence. And then you the personal
income tax nineteen thirteen personal income tax? What what did
they promise? You had to make eleven million dollars in

(01:00:04):
today's dollars. Actually it's more. This number comes from pre
Biden days, so it's probably fourteen million dollars a year
to pay the seven percent top rate. So why would
you worry about this? This is not going to be
a problem for you. It's only the guy's making thirteen
million dollars in today's dollars. Well, pretty soon the income

(01:00:25):
tax was everybody, and the bottom rate in the United
States is higher than the billionaire's rate from before. So
they took the tax on rich and turned it into
a tax on just about everybody. They did a tax
on phones to pay for the Spanish American War tax.
That was a tax that was only on the rich.

(01:00:46):
You had to be making long distance phone calls, okay,
and since the phone cost four thousand dollars in today's dollars,
they were new Only rich people had them. That doesn't
bother me. It wasn't too long before everyone in America
had a phone. And by the way, there are parts
of this country still paying that tax. It was largely
taken out, but not completely. And while I went to

(01:01:09):
public school, I saw on TV that the Spanish American
War has been over for several weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Grever norquis Americans for Tax Reform? Groveror before you go,
I once you tell us a little bit about Americans
for Tax Reform, and also the Taxpayers Pledge that US
candidates to sign.

Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
Sure, the Taxpayer Protection Pledge is something I worked when
President Reagan asked me to run Americans for Tax Reform.
In order to support tax reform, we said, well, we're
going to reduce rates broad on the base, but here's
a pledge we want everyone to sign that they'll never
allow taxes to go back up again. And in nineteen
ninety four, ninety six percent of all the Republicans in

(01:01:51):
the House and Senate signed the pledge, and they won
control of the House and Senate because the Republican Party
became in not just in a speech somewhere, but I
signed a pledge and it's all up online. You can
see if you want to know whether your congressman, senator,
state legislator, governor, governor Florida is a pledge Stegner. They'll

(01:02:14):
tell you I'll never raise your taxes. Other people I
won't tell you. Now, if my neighbor said he told
me he wouldn't eat my cat, but he wouldn't put
it in writing, I'd keep the cat inside. Okay. Any
politician who tells you they won't raise taxes but they
won't put it in writing, what are they hiding? What

(01:02:36):
are their plans? So we make it clear. Any politician
who wants to say, honestly, let me tell you, guys,
I'm never raising taxes. Here it is in writing, it's
on the internet. Nobody can ever make it go away.
It's not like the Epstein files, which appear and disappear.
This is this is right there. You know who's taking
the pledge and who hasn't, and so are big fight

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is to make sure things don't get worse. But now
we're working state by state because everyone wants to be Florida.
Everybody wants to see their income tax down towards zero.
There are five states that have passed the law to
trigger down to zero. As revenue comes, instead of spending it,
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the House has passed that bill. The Senate leader said
he's going to pass the exact same bill. This will
happen in the next few months South Carolina, and the
governor is a big supporter as well that South Carolina
will be triggering down to zero. North Carolina is triggering
down to two point four to nine, and then they'll
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seven that they were before. West Virginia's permanently going to zero,
so is Kentucky, so is Mississippi, so is Oklahoma. We
have a lot of states that have said, we see
that getting rid of the income tax brings jobs, opportunity,
gives people more freedom. We don't need to spend endlessly.

(01:04:02):
So we're working with many of the states to phase
their income tax to zero and to put limits on
what local governments can raise in property taxes. We shouldn't
be subsidizing those incompetent mayors who keep spending too much
and say, oh, would the state give us some money,
or I threaten to hold my taxpayer's hostage and give

(01:04:23):
a property tax. No, we're not going to let you
raise the property tax, and we're not giving you any money.
Learn to govern. Raising taxes is what politicians do if
they can't govern.

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Grover again, thank you so much for joining us. Take
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Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos with
George Landith, the non brick Trader, coming to you from
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is with this, and please make that introduction.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Absolutely, I'm always happy to do that because we have
the very best guests on TV and radio, and we
have Gregory Wrightstone here to prove it. He is the
executive director of the CO two Coalition. He's also a
geologist with more than forty years of experience studying the
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(01:08:47):
a best selling book Inconvenient Facts, and he is known
for bringing data driven science basis analysis to today's climate debates.
So thank you Gregory for joining us today. We're very
glad to have you.

Speaker 14 (01:09:04):
It's good to be back on with you again. It
seems like a completely different world of the world of
climate change here in the United States today as it
was just a little over a year ago. If you
remember that boyd the world was gonna There was one
crisis after another, and then Trump took over. A man,
it's been a sea change and he's not afraid to

(01:09:26):
call it a hoax, and neither am I. And it's
not a hoax, and the climate change isn't happening. The
hoax is that we're seeing unusual and unprecedented warming being
driven by our human emissions, mainly of carbon dioxide, which
is a I mean, if you're trying to demonize and
they are carbon dioxide, they're trying to kill all fossil

(01:09:48):
fuel use coal, oil, natural gas, and these are the
things that allowed humanity to go from one billion to
eight billion in people. And the good news is there too,
because of more carb dioxide and a little bit of warming,
we're producing more food, food production. Crop production is outpacing
population growth. So that's a that's a really really big

(01:10:11):
story that goes unreported.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Yeah, well, it's interesting because they act like CO two
is some sort of poison, like it's carbon monoxide. Obviously,
if you're in a room with carbon monoxide that could
kill you.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
But we're all in.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Rooms right now that have CO two in them. Our
atmosphere has CO two in it a fair amount of it.
And while it's true that if all we had to
breathe was CO two and had no oxygen, that would
be bad for us, but CO two, like right now,
all three of us and every listener and every viewer
of the show is exhaling CO two, So it's not poisonous.

(01:10:49):
It's just not necessarily like plants need CO two. We
don't need it as much personally, you know, we exhale it.
But the reality is if there is no carbon oxide
in the earth, there'd be no life on the earth. Yeah,
And so it's just weird that they act like CO
two is a bad thing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
It is.

Speaker 14 (01:11:08):
We're at four one hundred and thirty parts per million
for a little over four hundred parts per million, that's
zero point zero four percent, four hundreds of a percent
of the atmosphere of CO two. It's a very, very minute.
It's a it's a rare, scarce molecule, but it's still

(01:11:28):
vitally important for us and plants because without that CO two,
photosynthesis could not occur, and of course that would be very,
very bad. So we've got we've increased from about two
hundred and eighty to four hundred and thirty parts per
million since the Industrial Revolution. That's about a fifty percent

(01:11:50):
increase in the air in the CO two in the atmosphere.
And when you're breathing out, and as you're breathing out,
you're exhaling about forty thousand parts per million, so it's
more than more than one hundred times what the ambient
CO two is the atmosphere. And you know the old
wives tale. I talk to my plants and they do

(01:12:13):
much better when I talk to them. What's because you're
breathing out, you're breathing CO two on them. Of course,
plants are going to do better if you breathe forty
thousand parts per million. And so it now I will
say ocean in particular. Was the Office of Safety and
whatever it's from workplace to accidents, they set upper limits

(01:12:33):
on carbon dioxide and it's around eight thousand parts per million,
I think because in fact, in the food industry they
use a lot of what's called dry ice, which is
basically frozen CO two, So they have to monitor the
CO two because like any gas except for oxygen, if

(01:12:54):
you have too much of it, you can't get enough oxygen.
And it is a danger in enclosed area with with
dry ice or CO two as it's just as it's
warming up, it goes directly from the frozen CO two
into a gas. So a lot of the particularly the
food industry and the use of dry ice, they have
to monitor it. But again we're in no danger of

(01:13:16):
any levels of CO two until we get up to
maybe forty to fifty one hundred times what we are today,
and we'll never get there. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Yeah, one of the things that's interesting is I think
I've seen some articles that suggest that the earth is
now greener than it was thirty years ago, and that's
because there's more CO two, and that means the CO
two is being absorbed by plants. So it's not just slowly,
you know, filling our atmosphere with CO two.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
It's just it's.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Plant food and the plants use it and that's why
we have now more food, and it's just it's kind
of like, you know, an example would be I think
that there are places that if you have like a greenhouse,
where they will pump CO two into the greenhouse so
that it helps the plants grow in the greenhouse better.

Speaker 14 (01:14:08):
Absolutely, and it's this greening of the earth. What's really interesting.
I think you're probably aware of it. You've got my
newest book. But half of we're putting a lot of
carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, only half of it's showing
up in the atmosphere. What happens to the rest of
that carbon dioxide. It's mainly being absorbed and used in

(01:14:30):
photosynthesis by plants. And we see that from the near
polar regions to the equator. Almost every ecological niche has
seen a huge increase in vegetation. Not the Deep Sahara,
not the Antarctic, there aren't plants there any use it.
But it's been a huge, huge, huge benefit. We're seeing
the forests are expanding. We're seeing the deserts are actually shrinking,

(01:14:52):
the Southern Sahara, the Sahel, one hundred thousand square kilometers
of former desert now turning into lush grass lands and crop.
They're able to grow crops in the Southern Sahara where
it was sand sixty years ago, and that's a huge
that's a huge benefit. And increasing CO two allows plants

(01:15:14):
to resist drought much more effectively because they're not because
of more CO two. They're not, if you will, breathing
in and out. It's called transpiration, and because they're not
doing that, they're doing it less. With more CO two,
they're not used losing water through that process of transpiration,
and so they need less water to survive. That's why

(01:15:34):
they're able to do better in very dry conditions. It's
really it's a great story. If we were back in
around Christmas, i'd be telling you glad tidings of great
joy that I bring to you about carbon dioxide. It's
probably what I call the greatest untold story of the
twenty first century. Out of a thriving planet, a thriving ecosystem.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Yeah, I mean, it is interesting to act like somehow
CO two is awful, but the reality is if you
got rid of it all, you'd have no plants at all,
and then you'd have no animals because they would then starve,
and then eventually humans would too. It wouldn't take long
before basically there'd be no life on Earth. Aren't we
called carbon based life systems and things like that? Yeah,

(01:16:22):
and we're not. We're not carbon based in the sense
that we had. We're made out of charcoal or coal.
It's the carbon that is used, and as you said,
by plants through the process. You know, plants are able
to take CO two and sunlight and then turn that
into edible things. You get trees with apples and oranges,

(01:16:45):
You get plants that grow and you know whether it's
beans or cabbage, and you know all kinds of things
that you know, hay and wheat and all of that,
and it's like if all that goes away, life goes away.

Speaker 14 (01:16:58):
Yeah, indeed, and the other thing. People they're being told
complete disinformation about warming and heat. We've been The truth
of the matter is we have been warming for more
than three hundred years. And it's important to note when
did it start. It was more than three hundred years

(01:17:18):
ago that this current warming trend were in started and
so that was long, long, long before the first model
t rolled off the assembly line, before they're any subs
driving around, or we were burning lots of coal to
generate electricity. And this warmth, combined with the CO two,
the warming has a great beneficial effect on agricultural productivity.

(01:17:42):
Why is that because we've longer growing seasons in the
contiguous United States. Here the lower forty eight, we've seen
a lengthening of growing season of just about two weeks,
and so that's great for agricultural productivity. You don't get
these late spring killing frosts if you're an apple if

(01:18:04):
you own an apple orchard in Michigan, that can really
ruin your year if you have a late spring killing frost.
And we fewer of those because it's warming up. So
it's the combination of that warming, longer growing season, and
then that's just turbo charged by increase in carbon dioxide,
and we should celebrate that. But what they're trying to

(01:18:25):
do now, in fact up when when I was working
this afternoon on an abstract for paper, I hope to
present it an industry energy industry convention, telling the truth
about carbon capture. These oil companies, they're all in for
it because they're going to get huge subsidies. They're going
to make billions of dollars, because they're going to take

(01:18:47):
money from your back pocket and from your bank accounts,
and they're going to it's be a direct transfer into
the oil companies and energy companies and they love it
and they and so I'm going to go tell the
truth and go to these energy conventions and speak about
that it's carbon sequestrations, carbon storage, carbon capture. It's unnecessary,

(01:19:09):
it's harmful to the ecosystems, and it's really really expensive.
It's about a billion dollars to retrofit a coal fired
power point, and there's a commensurate nearly forty percent loss
of energy. It's energy intensive and expensive. So they're using
a good part of the electricity that the coal is

(01:19:30):
creating to actually strip out the CO two. So it's
a lot more it would be much more expensive electricity,
and so you've also got less of the electricity you're
generating getting into the grid. It's it's stupid what these
people are doing, and they Trump and his team need
to pull the subsidies for all of this.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
I was going to ask this question, which is if
somebody started saying, let's have oxygen sequestration. Wait a minute,
so you just want to kill all the living you know,
being meaning you know, whether it's animals or humans, you know.
But the point is not plants. I don't think plants
are dependent on oxygen as we are, and likewise we're

(01:20:14):
not as dependent on CO two as they are. You know, plants,
But it just seems to me that there's a balance here.
They both matter, and yet people act like they're the
problem and it's just weird. And the other thing that's
weird is they start off calling it global warming. It
was global warming, global warming, and every time there was
it was cold and snowy, they'd.

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
Say it was global warming's vault.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
And I think people realized, wait a minute, warming is
making it cold, so they decided to change the name
to climate change because then every time there was a variation,
they could pretend that it was the fault of you know,
industry or you know, CO two and things like that.
So I just wanted to ask you, do you think
that's a fair assessment of why they decided to stop

(01:20:58):
calling it global warming and decided to give a climate change,
because that gave them more freedom to pretend that.

Speaker 14 (01:21:06):
Yeah, we'd gone through we've gone through about an eighteen
year period where it wasn't the warming stopped and he
was going like this up and down. But it basically
went through eighteen years with no warming, all the while
carbon dioxide was increasing. So they said, wait a minute,
something's not right here. And now this we're experiencing this

(01:21:27):
giant cold weather event across the United States, and it's
also in Europe they're having extreme cold. In fact, it
just snowed in Australia, Canberra yesterday and it's summertime there
for them. It's well seen it there, you know, southern hemispheres.
This is the this is the middle of their summer

(01:21:47):
and they got snow there that's high beyond highly unusual.
So we're seeing this and what well you have to
learn and what we're finding the science tells us it's
just opposite of what we're being told. We're being told
fear the heat, heat is deadly, heat waves will kill you.
But that's just that's yes, that is true. But cold

(01:22:11):
weather deaths greatly outpace heat related deaths by some fifteen
to twenty times as many people die from cold related
deaths as heat related deaths. What does that tell us?
Global warming saves lives because it would save millions of
people from an early death due to the cold.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
You're in a conservative commando's radio show. Our guest is
Greg writes Son. He's the executive director of the CO
two Coalition. Greg's been a while since we've talked to
here on conservative commandos. It seems like we talked to
you whenever there's a huge weather event like a hurricane
or tornado that nearly hits your home. It did hit it.

(01:22:57):
This time. It's we're digging out from a blizzard here.
I mean, it was supposed to be the storm of
the century. Places buried in snow and nice and and it.
What I'm getting at is the hype whenever we have
any of these storms, and the hype seems to start

(01:23:19):
with the Weather Channel. And I just wanted to get
your reaction to sudden weather events, like there's a blizzard
that we had just a couple of days ago.

Speaker 5 (01:23:33):
Yeah, that's it's unusual.

Speaker 14 (01:23:34):
It hasn't. I remember when I was in college back
in the in the mid seventies that we had terrible,
terrible winters. So, you know, we're talking about weather. It's
hard to point exactly why it's happening like this. They says, well,
the vortex is broken down and the cold escapes. That

(01:23:55):
might well be true, but it's did they predict it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
Well, Gregory, it doesn't. It just seems to happen occasionally.
For instance, the last time we had a major snowstorm
like here in on the East coast. Oh, you have
to go way back to twenty sixteen, which was only
ten years ago, and then you can go back to
the nineteen seventies. There is a major snowstorm here on

(01:24:21):
the East coast. And oh, if you go back to
the I saw a picture of an easter Sunday. This
was April third in the year nineteen eleven to have
a major snowstorm. But it just seems like about every
eight to ten years we have major snowstorms. And it's

(01:24:43):
always been that way, but since the invention of something
called the weather Channel, and you know, they always hide
these weather situations to keep you coming back to their
stations so they can some were advertising where's the truth? Well,

(01:25:06):
where's the truth?

Speaker 14 (01:25:07):
That's a good question. But we see that. But you're
right about that. And they don't hype the cold like
they do the heat. This was August and it was
two weeks of one and five degree Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
It's almost like, never let a crisis go to waste exactly.
No matter if it's hot or cold, or rainy, or
icy or snowy, or or you get a month of
bright sunny days. Everything is a crisis to them.

Speaker 14 (01:25:36):
Yeah, it is I'll give you an example. My newest
book is a very Convenient Warming and the Dutch language
version is over my shoulder here, and it was published
in Dutch. And we traveled the publisher said, I want
to bring you and your wife over. We're going to
tour the Netherlands and it'll be a book promotion tour.
And we got there and it was frigid now at

(01:25:59):
the same time it was it was June, middle of June,
and we had to wear winter coats because it was
so cold and it was highly unusual. But the United
States they were talking about the extreme heat in Europe. Well,
I was in Europe. The extreme heat was occurring in
southern Europe, which is what they really promoted. Did they
talk about this unusual cold in northern Europe. Heck no,

(01:26:22):
they don't do that. They avoid it. And that's just
a great example. One part of Europe is in heat
and they blow it up. The other part is an
extreme cold in its crickets.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
I think you've seen that in our recent weather matt
the east coast, the eastern half of the country was
cold and snowy and icy. The western half of the
country was above above temperature. Yeah, you know we see it,
but yet they always make a hype of it. Gregory writes,
don see it too, Coalition. We always appreciate you spending

(01:26:58):
time with this, Gregory, but before you go, please tell
us a little bit about the CO two Coalition and
how people could find out more.

Speaker 14 (01:27:08):
Yeah, we were formed ten years ago, twenty fifteen, a
little over ten years ago. Doctor William Happer is our chair.
We have now more than two hundred of the top
scientists and experts in the world. And these great scientists
it's really like a team of volunteer scientists to work

(01:27:28):
to create the scientific reports that we write. We've gone
through just a spectacular growth over the last five years.
We've gone from I think thirty five members that we're
scientists over two hundred today and our budgets now over
ten times what it was when I took over. So

(01:27:50):
in the donor base has increased just tremendously. So we're
getting the word out. I'm planning to launch a national
television ad campaign. We've created two sixty second ads. Maybe
we can get it on your It would be one
of the Yeah, we'll have to talk about that. We're

(01:28:10):
going to launch it. I believe doctor Happer and I
participated in a Newsmax documentary that will air in March,
and I hope to launch this ad campaign during that
and then I'd like to take it all over, but
I got to raise money to do that. It's not cheap,
but I'm excited about that. And one of the things

(01:28:30):
I've been saying for several years is we are winning.
And boy, we sure are by that. I mean, we're
getting the truth out and it's it's thanks to people
like you and George for helping us get that word out.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
So think what about Donald Trump? How much of a
help has he been?

Speaker 14 (01:28:48):
It's been. It's just huge, huge, I mean, there are
things we can complain about from from our standpoint when
we talk about science and climate change. They've stubbed their
toe a couple of times. They're going to be issuing,
probably announcing a repeal of the Endangerment finding. It may
come as early as this week or next. We expect

(01:29:09):
it soon. It's in the Office of Management and Budget
russ Boat's department there and then it's being under review
for them in comments. We expect that to come out
in the next two weeks. An announcement that that that
takes that says we're going to repeal the finding that
we did back in two thousand and nine that carbon
dioxide is a pollutant and they're going to get.

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
Rid of that.

Speaker 14 (01:29:31):
And that's that pulls the whole house of cards come
tumbling down. It's all been it's all been built on
this endangerment finding. And so the you know, learn more
at CO two Coalition dot org. CO two Coalition dot
org and to get my excellent new book that's over
my shoulder is it's a very Convenient Warming. Just search
for Convenient Warming. I guarantee you will love it. It's understandable.

(01:29:57):
It's not high tech science. I take the science. I
don't dumb it down, but I make it understandable.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
Well, you know, it's great about your books, like Very
Convenient Truth and your latest book. It's almost like giving
our side ammunition to fight the lies. George has got
a book. Same thing with George's books. It gives our
side ammunition. So when we go to a Thanksgiving dinner

(01:30:25):
and you're confronted by a member who believes that we're
destroying the earth, that CO two is a bad thing, well,
here are the facts. Here are the facts. But Greg
writes them, we want to thank you for joining us
here in the Conservative Commandos. Great Sea again. I know

(01:30:45):
it's been a while, but take care and God bless
Thank you both. And this is the Conservative Commandos with
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And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commands with
George Landrath and Imric Trader coming to you from the
Pila Studios and Mysore Studios of the AUN TV Networks. George,
I heard something interesting involving the Middle East and Far
East today, and that's that there are seven Asian countries China, Japan,

(01:35:20):
the Koreas and others that are get most of their
oil from the Gulf region. Two things number one, if
they are, why aren't they helping to secure that area?
Why aren't they helping to secure the Straits Hermos so
the oil can get out of them and get out

(01:35:41):
of there and go to these countries, or why shouldn't
Donald Trump say to these countries, forget the Middle East oil,
We'll say that oil. After all, it's probably closer to
ship oil to China, to Japan, to South Korea from
Alaska than it is from the Middle East.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Yeah, I suspect that even from Venezuela going to the
Panama Canal, that's probably plenty close. So we and you know,
we have lots of.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
We've got lots of oil. Yeah, this would really help
our balance of payments, especially with China. I mean, we
buy their junk all the time. How about they buying
our oil? About we get some of that dollars back,
especially when oil is one hundred dollars a barrel. George,
we can make there's nothing wrong with making a profit.

(01:36:34):
But I understand you have some other news on Japan.

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
Well, yeah, it's kind of interesting because Japan, one of
our closest allies, has been a very strategic ally has
been preparing for high stakes diplomatic work. They, for example,
their new prime minister is traveling to Washington to meet
with President Trump, and the outcome of that meeting could
influence not only the future US Japan relations with the

(01:37:00):
entire balance of power in the Indo Pacific because apparently
the US Japan alliance has been a cornerstone of regional
stability in that area, deterring threats from China, North Korea
and other adversaries. But they also are very interested. Of course,
there's economically, they've also been a friend of ours, and
I think there's some hope to get rid of tariffs

(01:37:22):
and things like that and to be working together. But
I think the other thing that's very interesting is is
defense cooperation, because they've been talking about a push for
Japan to join the United States proposed Golden Dome missile
defense system in an advanced satellite enabled network modeled partly
on building upon some of the ideas in Israel's Iron Dome,

(01:37:44):
but probably even more advanced and more complete than that.
But at the bottom line is it would operate on
a much larger scale because obviously protecting the United States
isn't like just protecting a relatively small geographic nation like Israel.
So the Golden Dome would, you know, help protect the

(01:38:05):
US and our allies from missile threats that originate from
China and North Korea or Iran of course, it maybe
that Iran isn't an issue anymore, because it may not
be long before the regime there is different, and the
Iranian people, I don't think will be willing to follow
the pattern of the last forty seven years. But they
could also play a major role in that system because

(01:38:26):
they have sophisticated satellite tracking and you know, they also
are you know, high tech nation as well, so we
could be working together. So I thought it was interesting
because I'm a big fan of the idea of the
Golden Dome missile defense system because, as you know, Malcolm
Wallop was a big supporter of missile defense and we

(01:38:47):
had a missile defense developed and then basically Barack Obama
kind of slowed it down and shut it down. And
it's time for us to get back to developing new
technologies so that whether it's the super for fast missiles
or other technologies that we're working to make sure that
our missile defense is always one step ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
Well, you talk about the missile defense systems like the
Golden Dome are particularly effective when you're defending a small
country like Israel. I don't think Japan is that large
area wise. It's made up of many islands, But as
far as a large space, it's really not so. Probably

(01:39:32):
Japan would be a lot easier to defend than say
the United States, which is three thousand miles from coast
to coast.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
Well, yeah, and north the south is probably two thousand miles, right,
and so it's.

Speaker 3 (01:39:46):
Yeah, it's a lot of space.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
Of course, as an American, I'd love to have America
be protected. Would I think it makes sense for our
allies to also be protected, because an example would be
the Gulf States right now have been able to shoot
down virtually all the missiles launched at them by Iran,
and that has helped them want to be on our

(01:40:08):
side because if they were getting you know, if their
cities were being turned to rubble, and if literally thousands
of their citizens were dying every day from the attacks,
and I think they'd be very against what we did because.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
They'd say, wait a minute, this is costing way too much.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
But instead, I think what we see is they appreciate
the fact that we've helped protect them from a regime
that's been attacking them now for forty seven years.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
Well, Georgie, you know, I'm all in favor of what
Donald Trump has done in Iran. I do have one
caution though, I wanted to see if you think I'm
on to something here, and that's we're using our best
in Iran.

Speaker 3 (01:40:49):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
We're seeing how we've defeated Iranians radar, their missile defense
and whatever that's been supplied to them by Russia and
by China. Do you think by the actions that we
have taken in Iran that China and Russia are learning
lessons how their systems are not working, and that they

(01:41:16):
need to rework these systems, and that in the long
run that this may come back to be a problem
for us.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Well, it could be. I would argue that as long
as we are constantly developing our next level, like we're
building a next generation fighter plane. It's pretty expensive, but
it basically can go about twice as far as our
current ones. It's about twice as stealthy as our current ones,
and so having that kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:41:48):
Tool is very helpful.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
And so it may well be that we have to
constantly be updating our systems and not just kind of
think that because thirty or forty years ago we had
the best technology that that would just remain the case
because the other side develops new missiles that have in
some cases they are super fast. We've always got to

(01:42:11):
be taking one step ahead of our enemies because they're
bad guys. It's like, these are not decent people. It's
not like I don't think we have to be always
developing new technology to protect ourselves from Canada, because I
don't think Canada actually wants to attack us, but Russia, China, Iran,
North Korea absolutely want to and we'd be happy to.

(01:42:33):
So we cannot just assume that because a decade or
two ago we had good technology that's still effective. We
always got to maintain our capacity to defend ourselves.

Speaker 1 (01:42:45):
We must be forever. Hey, George, before we do sign off,
tell us about your book. Tell us a little about
Frontiers of Freedom.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Sure, well, this is my book. It's called Let Freedom
Ring Again, and the subtitle is and Self Evident Truths
Save America for the Decline. And I hope that people
understand that, you know, as we approach our two hundred
and fiftieth anniversary this next July, the celebration of our
nation's founding and the enduring truths that were declared initially

(01:43:15):
in seventeen seventy six, they were called self evident truths,
and they've over time proven to be self evident. At
the time, they may not have been. They were kind
of new, you know, they were revolutionary. But now it's
very clear they're true. And so it is the perfect
time for us as a nation to revisit what made
America exceptional and how we can preserve it and make

(01:43:36):
sure that it remains exceptional. So that's what this book
is about. And Grover Nerkless, that's some nice things to
say about it, he said, Let Freemer Again is a
celebration of America and an owner's manual that reminds us
that it is our responsibility to keep America free and prosperous.
And George teaches us the lessons that he has learned

(01:43:58):
in politics that will allow each of us to do
our part to protect our nation and its future frontiers
of freedom. You can find us at FF dot org.
You can get on my shoulder there. FF dot org.
A think tank that works on everything from peace through strength,
the idea of freedom and opportunity for all, the concept

(01:44:19):
that smaller government, unless intrusive government, is a better way
to live our lives, as our founders firmly believed, and
the idea that our government should be financially responsible as
opposed to just constantly spending more and more money and
borrowing more and more money. It curiates economic problems, and
I would also argue national security problems.

Speaker 3 (01:44:41):
Indeed it is.

Speaker 1 (01:44:43):
But for right now, we are at a time it
means we get it running. We gotta go take care
gobless and we'll see it tomorrow. That's going to be
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