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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome everybody, and welcome fellow patriots, Welcome, fellow plorabulls. Welcome
all of you dreks to society, rock dwellers, siicophanstinkos, Megan Nazis, homophobe, xenophobes,
all you lovers of kings. Of course you know what
we're talking about. And of course you know we're talking about.
You are friends, allies and patriots, and we always want

(00:30):
you to know that whoever you are, you are always
welcome here. And this is the Conservative Commando's radio show.
And I'm Rick Trador, coming to you from the My
Pillar Studios, the My Story Studios of the AUN TV network.
And joining me today as my co host is George Landers,
the president and CEO of Frontiers of Freedom. And George,

(00:53):
welcome back, Welcome back to Conservative Commandos.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
It's great to be here. This is the place to be.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
After all, the Conservative Commandos does a great job of
helping Americans be focused on factual, accurate information so that
they can be eternally vigilant, because that's the price of freedom,
as we were told, eternal vigilance.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, George, over this past we can across many places
of America thanks to about three billion dollars of foreign influence.
There was a rush of another another rush of no
kings rallies. Before we get talking about I just want
to say, George, if we had a king, I would

(01:37):
want our king to love a mark as much as
President Donald Trump does and then give me a king.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well, one of the things I found very interesting about
these quote protests because they weren't actually protests.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
So we'll explain why.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Because the organizers build them as massive, peaceful Stanford Democracy
protests against Donald Trump, but the cameras told a very
different story. For example, in New York City, right in
the middle of the Manhattan Marsh near Times Square, demonstrators
proudly waved bright red communist hammer and sickle fly, the

(02:14):
very symbols of the Communist Chinese Party and the Soviet
Union that murdered more than one hundred million people in
the last century. Some in the crowd even chanted quote,
there is only one solution, a communist revolution. So that's like, wow, that's.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Not the language of liberty.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
And meanwhile, out in Los Angeles things turned out right
violent and murderous. And what I mean by that is
agitators spray painted this message on the side of.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
A federal building.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Quote kill your local ice agents unquote, and it's like wow,
and they were clashing with law enforcement, and similar chaos
erupted in Portland and Dallas, with protesters hurling cement blocks
at Department of Homeland secure officers and smashing property. You know,
this wasn't some fringe, small element. This was basically front

(03:06):
and center at these events, and some of them were
attended by Hollywood celebrities and cheered by mainstream left wing voices.
But let's be honest, that's not a protest. This is
a riot because it's violent, it's calling for violence, it's
promoting violence, it was engaged in violence, and then also communism. Really,

(03:28):
so to me, this is just nuts because the same
people who scream no kings were waving flags of history's
worst dictators, murderous dictators, totalitarians. So it reveals who these
people really are. They don't oppose kings, they want kings,

(03:48):
they want communist kings, and they are anti American radicals.
They despise our countries founding principle.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
I think I don't think they are well, they're in time,
but they're not Americas. And you know, George, I saw
the same pictures of the same flags, and to me,
it's an indication of where that money come from. You know,
where that sponsorship is coming from. I think a lot
of that money is coming from China. I think it's

(04:18):
coming from people like George sorosn and that guy Sing, who,
by the way, lives in China. I think it's a
real indication of the true intentions of those protesters. But
Georgia and in realm, if you know, you can't make
this stuff up. There was a massive crowd of people
that gathered in London in support of the lefts no

(04:43):
Kings protests. Now London is in England, a country that
literally has a king, and they're protesting America. That doesn't
I mean, George, it can't make that up.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well, these people are not only obviously bad people, because
if you're supporting communism and killing ice officers and things
like that, and throwing bricks and cinder blocks to people
and things like that, you're not a good person. But
they're also demonstrated they're stupid people because, like you said,
what they did in London is shows they're stupid, and

(05:21):
I think romanticizing totalitarian communism and openly endorsing violence against
men and women who enforce our laws demonstrates that these
people are not intelligent people, nor are they good people.
They're idiots and they have a very strong evil mindset.

(05:44):
And so because these aren't just about policy disagreements, this
is about a window into the radical left soul. They
hate borders, they hate law enforcement, they hate America, and
they hate our constitution. Why because our constitution doesn't bow
to their totalitarian ideology. And they're claiming, of course, that

(06:06):
Trump's a king. Why because the Communist Manifesto written by
Marx suggested that you should accuse your political enemies of
doing what you're doing so as to create confusion. So
these people do support totalitarian dictatorships, and they pretend that

(06:30):
Donald Trump is somehow a king.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
But it's just kind of dumb.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
But anyhow, they are telling us kind of precisely the
country that they want, that they actually want to impose
on the rest of us. And so I'm thinking, if
they're successful, then they're going to turn America into a
country like Russia, China, Iran, North Korea.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
That's their goal.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Less say, test in the streets, let's see, let's see him.
Protests in the streets peurs, I pull this off Facebook,
one of the best quotes of the day. How could
we expect a group of people who don't know the
difference between him man and a woman to know the
difference between a king and a president. I've seen I've

(07:21):
seen different interviews, like there's a young fellow in Philadelphia
area by them of Frank scut who's going out and
interviewed some of these or tried to interview these people.
And when I say try to, because it seems like
there is always a group that blocks people like him
off so we can't get to the crowd. Okay, But

(07:46):
when he was able to interview these people, these people
had no idea what they were protesting about. All they
know is they hate Trump. And you ask him why
they hate Trump, they say, well, he is set a dictator,
he's destroying the constitution. And when he asked him what

(08:06):
parts of the constitution has he destroyed, they don't know.
They have no answer. All they know is they hate Trump.
That's it.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, you're right about that, and it's I obviously disagree
with them one hundred percent. But if they don't like
Donald Trump, that's not criminal. You know, if it's kind
of like I didn't like, for example, Joe Biden, and
I didn't really like Barack Obama. But no, it's not criminal.
That's just a political opinion. But when you start advocating,

(08:37):
because you and I have we didn't like Biden and
we didn't like Barack Obama, but we never advocated for violence.
We never advocated for a takeover of our government by
communist dictatorships.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
And why is that?

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Because we love America and it's okay to for us
to have different opinions about political leaders. But I think
it's very, very crazy to have basically the left in
America being what they've become because they didn't. I think
they used to be wrong on many issues, but they
weren't crazy. There was a time when on the left

(09:13):
they also agreed with things like the Constitution, the Bill
of Rights, things like that, and we may have disagreed
on certain public policy questions, and that's fine, But we've
gotten so crazy now that the left they hate America,
they hate the Constitution, they hate our founding fathers, they
hate what America stands for, and they want to destroy

(09:36):
America and build a dictatorship that they can be in
charge of.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well, George, you live in a state and I live
in a state that's setting in the direction I do
think of dictators or kings or queens. If you had,
for instance, in the state of New Jersey, you can't
use a plastic straw. Plastic straws been banned. You can't
go to the store and get a plastic bag. Plastic

(10:04):
bags have been banned. They want to ban gas, lawn
machines like leaf flowers. They want to ban that. They
want to ban lawnmowers, of course, you know, George, they
want to ban guns. All that's coming from this, and
a whole lot more coming from people who say that

(10:26):
Donald Trump is a is a king. I feel like
I feel like I'm living in a state that is
being run by kings and queens, the kings and queens
of the Democrat Party. And meanwhile, let's look at the
people who in this country who are actually holding power

(10:47):
and how long they had it. Chuck Schumer, Chuck Schumer
has been in power for forty six years. That's longer
than Joseph Stalin Stenny Moyer forty five years. That's longer
than mal Mitch McConnell forty two years. Five times more
than Napoleon, Nancy Pelosi thirty nine years longer than Henry

(11:10):
the Eighth, Maxine Waters thirty five years longer than Mussolini,
Bernie Sanders thirty five years triple that of Adolf Hitler.
I mean, that's part of the problem, George, that some
of these people are so entrenched in Washington. They're the kings,

(11:32):
they're the queens. And what we're seeing down what we're
seeing at the airport with the TSA agents. Interestingly enough,
when Congress wanted to go on vacation, when Congress wanted
to get out of town, they passed some piece of
garbage to three am. The next thing you knew, they

(11:54):
were at the airport being whisk pass any lie that
was there to put on any plane they wanted to
go anywhere. Now, George, who's the monarchies? Where's the monarchy?
I say, the monarchy in large part is in Washington,
d C. And it's not Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, well, yeah, you're exactly right. The monarchy seems to
be these all time people that just stick around thinking
they have a right to be in government for the
whole life. That's what a king believes, that they are
in charge for their entire life.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yep, well, George, just good a break in. You are
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Speaker 1 (15:53):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos with
your sill under Athonomic Trader. Come it to you from
the Mike Pilli Studios and my sture studios of the
AUN TV network. So George Whitehouse is on your radar screen.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Well, there's lots of news, but I think one thing
I thought was very interesting is I saw an article
discussing and I think this makes some sense saying that
the Democratic because a lot of people act like the
Democrats are going to, you know, just crush the Republicans
in the midterms. And I saw some analysis. It's just
that may not be actually an accur way of looking

(16:29):
at things. And now some people will look at course,
it is historically true throughout history that you know, in
modern times that the party that's not in charge of
the White House usually does better during the midterms. But
the problem is, let's talk about the reality of what's
actually going on, because this is different. Now We've never

(16:51):
had what's going on in our country now be the
issue because you used to have what you'd call mainstream
political parties. One was you know, center left and one
was centered right, but one wasn't whack job communists and
so for so this is what I think, despite their
polling spin and confident predictions, the Democrats are carrying a

(17:12):
massive pile of political baggage into the twenty twenty six
midterm elections, and that pile of baggage could bury them.
I would argue that there's a lot of people that
say the midterms will be rough for Republicans, and I'm
not saying they won't be, but I'm not saying it's
I think people can't act as if the Democrats on
their own set of problems. The facts the ground tell

(17:35):
some additional story here, and that is the Democrats are
settled with deeply unpopular values that most Americans reject. They
overwhelmingly support big government, socialism, even communism, as we saw,
and they support higher taxes, more bureaucracy, more national debt,

(17:55):
more spending, more fraud, more corruption, less law enforcement, less
safe streets. These policies don't deliver the results for what
you might call the average working family. They've tied themselves
to radical cultural positions that alienate normal Americans by huge margins.

(18:19):
And so I would say, you know, recent pollings, for example,
show that seventy seven percent of Americans opposed tax increases
in the middle class. Yet every single Democrat in Congress
voted for the largest tax hiking history and voted against
tax cuts seventy six percent of Americans oppose allowing biological
males in girls' locker rooms and sports, yet seventy three

(18:43):
percent reject government overwriting parents on decisions. In other words, basically,
people believe in parental rights here. Yet Democrats remain locked
in step together with a hard left transgender agenda. And
they also on border security, they continue to put illegal
immigrants ahead of law abiding americans, choosing criminals over cops,

(19:09):
and opposing borders over a real progress that we've seen
under Donald Trump. So on so many different levels, I
think there's just a huge problem here.

Speaker 9 (19:19):
You know.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
For example, over forty percent of Democrats in a poll
said that they are ashamed of America as we approach
our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, and they view our
American founding fathers with contempt and put partisan hatred of
Trump a head of patriotism on issues involving Iran, Venezuela
and national security. So I just think there's a big

(19:43):
problem here for them, And I think that it's not
clear to me that they have a clear, you know,
wide step to victory because they're just a bunch of
left wing cooks. The only one that's not a left
wing kuk is one of your senators, Fetterman. I thought
he was going to be a left wing kook because
it's previous, but he's turned out to be what I

(20:05):
would call a little more centrist. And I know he's
he leans left, but I'm just saying there's a lot
of kook. And so, you know, if you look at
the tone deaf leadership of people like Chuck Schumer and
the King Jeffries, the growing corruption scandals that you know,
massive fraud that occurred in Minnesota under Tim Walls, and
their current fight to defund the TSA and to create

(20:29):
airport chaos for millions of travelers, it all adds up
to a party that looks increasingly out of touch, increasingly
anti American, and corrupt in the eyes of the electorates.
So to me, this might not be a great election
cycle for Democrats because I think Americans might wake up
and go, yeah, these people are crazy, and it didn't

(20:50):
used to be like that. So I think if it didn't,
if they wasn't like that, they probably would win in
the midterms, because historically that's what's happened. But I don't
think we've had a lot of that going on. Like
when Ron Reagan was president. Tons of people who are Democrats.
Point is they were considered supportive of things like missile defense,

(21:11):
national security, tax cuts, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Well, George, you know I love the polls. To me,
it's like junk food from my brain. I also say
the polls are like the like the standings in Major
League Baseball. They don't mean a thing to the last
game of the season. But I think there's some real
problems for Republicans coming up in the midterms. For instance,

(21:37):
the shutdown in Washington. Right now, polls say that Republicans
are blaming being blamed for this shutdown. Fifty three percent
are blaming Republicans for the shutdown. When I look at
the twenty twenty six generic congressional polls, I can't find

(21:57):
a single poll where Republicans have believed. The Harvard Harris
Hoole has Democrats up by four, Russ Mussin Democrats up
by three, the Big Data poll Democrats up by eight,
Guinnipiac Democrats up by eleven. The favorability unfavorability for Republicans

(22:20):
is pretty bad right now. The Republican Party has an
unfavorable rating of fourteen point nine percent. The only piece
of good news here is, as you say, the Democratic
Party has an unfavorable rating of twenty point four percent.
But when it comes to the generic congressional polls, I

(22:43):
can't find a single one of them, George, that shows
Republicans in the league. I think the Republican Party has
big problems. I think of the I think the Republican
Party when I mean the Republican especially the House and Senate.
They've done a terrible job in selling the idea that
it's Democrats that have shut down the government. It's the

(23:07):
fault of the Democrats. The TSA agents aren't being paid.
So I don't know. Maybe it's time for the Republicans
to get a whole new public relations company working for
him because things aren't looking real good.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, that's for sure. Like I said, these elections will
be very important. So I hope that Republicans show up
in great numbers and don't decide that, oh, well, you know,
we've got Donald Trump in office. So I think life
is good. I don't need to vote. It's like, yeah,
you do, you need to vote. I know you can
be happy that Donald Trump's doing a good job and
that he's in office, but if you don't go and vote,

(23:49):
and what you will end up doing is empowering the
communist people, the totalitarian people. And so we've got to
make sure we don't do that because that could be
really problem And you know what kind of worries me.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
I totally understand. Hey, George, we've got a couple of
great guests that will be joining us on today's show.
Would you tell our audience a little bit about them?

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Absolutely? Well.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Our first guest is going to be Art Harman. He
is president of the Coalition to Save Manned Space Exploration.
That's obviously a pretty important high tech issue. And he
was the legislative director and foreign policy advisor to Congressman
Stockman from Texas, and he's a frequent guest on radio

(24:33):
shows and he discusses the space program and other vital issues,
and he's written space policy ideas for President Trump's campaign,
and he continues to advise the White House in Congress
on particularly these key issues and many others. And I've
known Art for many years, and he is serving on
the board of directors of a number of nonprofit organizations,

(24:57):
and he has been a television and photographers. So he'll
be a very good guest and very interesting to talk
with him. And then we've also got Tom Donaldson, who
is the host of the popular Donaldson Files program, and
that's broadcast on the ao N TV network, and you
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(25:19):
the aun TV Rumble page as well as at FF
dot org. And Tom is the president of America's Pack
and the author of a very good book entitled America
at the Abyss Will America Survive? He asks lots of
good questions and provides lots of good answers to try
to help America make sure it does survive. And Tom's

(25:39):
also a senior fellow here at the Frontiers of Freedom Institute,
so I think he'll also be a very interesting person
to talk with.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
All right, a couple of great guests here on the
Conservative Commandas will be joining Georgia myself. But for right now,
we need to take a break, and you are listening
to and watching the Conservative command As George Landers Imrick
Trader go nowhere. We'll be back with our Harmon, who
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Speaker 1 (29:12):
And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commander's Radio
Show with George Landreth. And you're shrewdly Rick Trader coming
to you from the my Pillar Studios and my Store
studios of the aun TV network. You know, George, one
of my favorite movies is Apollo thirteen, and at the
very end of Apollo thirteen, James Lovell said, when will

(29:35):
we be returning to the Moon and who will it be?
And to answer that question is our very next guest,
So George, please make that introduction.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Absolutely. We've got Art Herman. He's the president of the
Coalition to Save Manned Space Exploration and he was also
the legislative director and foreign policy advisor for Congressman Steve
Stockman from Texas. He's a frequent guest on radio shows.
He discusses, of course, as you might believe, space program

(30:08):
and vital issues about the space program, and he has
helped write space policy for the Trump campaign, and he
continues to advise the White House and Congress on key issues.
And Art has also served on a board of directors
of various nonprofit organizations, and he is a television producer

(30:29):
and photographer. So welcome to the Conservative Commandos Art. We're
very glad to have.

Speaker 9 (30:35):
You, No, thanks so much, and it's always a pleasure
to be on.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Well, I wanted to ask you if you think about
we've been to the Moon before, obviously, and the problem
has been that's a long time ago. It basically is
way more than forty five fifty years now. And one
of the problems I would argue is is that most
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(31:02):
in the upper atmosphere of the world, meaning we've got
a space station, but it's not in deep space. It's
just you know, and things like that. But since we
stopped going to the Moon, we haven't really had a
deep space program other than occasionally we'll send maybe a
telescope way out somewhere to do some photography and things.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
But that's not manned.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
And so I wanted to ask you, why is going
back to the Moon important because I think it is.
Some people say, why do we need to do that again?
And I would argue that lots of technology was developed
by that and it helped us, So it wasn't just
that we went to the Moon. We actually developed a
lot of technology that helped defend our nation. And I

(31:45):
would argue that cutting it off has probably shut down
some of the innovation that would be helpful.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
So I want to ask you, what do you make
involve us?

Speaker 9 (31:56):
Well, you're exactly right, George, and it has been too long,
you know it all almost it's not quite, but it's
almost the same distance between today, you know, from today
to the last landing on the Moon as it was
from the right brothers, not quite sixty some years versus
fifty some years. But it's pretty scary that we've abandoned

(32:18):
the Moon. In deep space exploration, and we do have
robotic probes of course to you know, Mars and the
outer planets things like that, and that's really awesome. The
rovers do incredible work, but there's nothing like sending humans.
And you know, a human can do in one minute

(32:40):
what rovers can do in ten years. You even pick
up a rock, see what's under it? Stuff like that.
You can't do that with the rovers that we've got.
But then there's a human element, and indeed, the technological
if you go back to you know, nineteen sixty one
when President Kennedy said we're going to the Moon, it's

(33:03):
not necessarily a given that the US would have become
what it is today. You know, the world's pre eminent
superpower in technology could have been Germany.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
You never know.

Speaker 9 (33:16):
But the space program launched an incredible drive of innovation,
of exploration of technology, everything needed, and it inspired a
whole generation of people that instead of getting into some
more boring perhaps occupation, they went into space, you know, engineering, aeronautics,

(33:38):
things like that, electronics, computing, and so forth, back in
the day when those were rare, relatively rare. So there's
so much to be said for it. And now we
are on the cusp of launching four astronauts. There's one
Canadian and three Americans, and they're going to be flying

(34:00):
and sort of a repeat of Apollo eight. They're going
to go and do a big Figure eight that's going
to go around the Moon and come back when they
and this is a test of the spacecraft that was
an unmanned test three years ago. So we went out
to the Moon and so forth came back beautiful success.

(34:21):
Now we're sending four astronauts and those four astronauts are
going to be able to test everything out, make sure
that when we land on the Moon it's going to
be safe to do that.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
This is part of the Artemis two program.

Speaker 9 (34:36):
Yeh yes, our Artemis two is this. This is a
test the man test with the crew, and then next
year they're going to have Artemis three. Artemis three originally
was scheduled to land on the Moon in twenty eighteen,
but they've advanced Artemis three to next year so they

(34:59):
can and test rendezvousing the spacecraft with the astronauts with
one of the lunar landers. And it could be Blue
Origin or could be SpaceX. Both are competing or both.
Jared Isaacman, the head of NASA, has said it could
be both if they're ready. And then in twenty early

(35:21):
twenty eighteen to twenty twenty eight we're going to land
on the Moon and we're going to do it on
the South Pole where there's water, ice and there's and
if you have water, you have oxygen to breathe, you
have water to drink, you have oxygen and water which
make up rocket fuel and useful for chemical processes. So

(35:47):
and then later in that year twenty eight, we're going
to do another landing on the Moon and then routine
landings beyond that until we start to build a base,
and then we'll be on the Moon permanently, just like
a space station.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
I think I've read that China is also trying to
get to the Moon, and some people are saying that
they likely will get there by twenty thirty. And it
seems to me that it's important that we, of course
again re establish our primacy in the space exploration and
technology and other things. But I wanted to ask you

(36:24):
what's going on with China's advancing lunar program.

Speaker 9 (36:29):
It is very very important to know. And actually if
you go to save Manned Space dot com also Facebook
and Twitter x Savemanned Space, and I've got an article
on the website savemannspace dot com that talks about China
and their threat. And I'm using that word very carefully

(36:51):
because it's not going to be twenty thirty. China always
practices strategic deception and everything, and so what they're going
to do is probably is try to beat us, which
means landing perhaps next year twenty seventeen, before we're ready
to And here's why I say they may be able

(37:12):
to do that if everything goes well. They had a
test launch not too long ago, a couple months ago,
where and I wrote about it on my website too,
savemanspace dot com, where they launched the capsule on sort
of half of the rocket that'll actually be used to
take their astronauts to space. It's a brand new rocket,

(37:36):
and they did a number of things. They it's an
outright counterfeit of a SpaceX rocket. So it went up
and it landed in the ocean perfectly, which is quite
a feat. It also tested the ejection of the capsule
in case anything goes wrong. Then about halfway up just

(38:00):
went suborbital, but about a halfway up it ejected the capsule,
which then fired a rocket and went up and then
successfully landed. They've also tested their lunar lander. And how
do you test the lunar lander that's going to land
in one sixth of the Earth gravity. Well, you do
that by having it counterweighted and then you can fire

(38:26):
rockets and stuff. And I saw the video of that
test and it was totally successful. So they're actually ahead
of us in some ways. Now things can go wrong,
that they can have failures and so forth, but I
would say that there definitely will be launching to the
Moon landing Chinese astronauts on the Moon by twenty eighteen

(38:50):
and maybe next year. Oh and here's the key thing.
The head of their lunar space program set out loud
what they don't usually like to say say out loud,
and again the quotes on my website that they will
treat the Moon in Mars just like the South China
Sea which they've militarized and violation of the sovereignty of

(39:16):
the seas four hundred years of that and the Law
of the Sea treaty. They don't care about treaties.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Well, yeah, because they're communists and the Marxists and those
people don't have any values. It's just about power.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
You might want to finish this question in the next segment,
but I was just going to ask you at least
to start off here. Why is Man's space expiations something
that still matters? In other words, I think it does matter,
but I want you to explain to our viewers and listeners
why it matters.

Speaker 9 (39:47):
Well, you know, well, Harrison Schmidt is the one who
told me Apollo seventeen. He was the geologist, the only
geologists that we had that went to the Moon to
study geology on the Moon and he taught. He's the
one who told me that he can do in like
one minute what a rover might take years to do,
because you can pick up that rock and you can

(40:08):
toss it aside it, you can even smash it on
the spot and see what's inside. Things like that. It's
just so much more. But there's a human element. We
can send robots anywhere in the universe. Now we send
robots to the depths of the seas and everywhere else.
But when you take the humanity out of it, it

(40:30):
loses so much of its meaning. You know, humans are
meant to explore, you know, this is what God gave us,
the innate interest to explore what's around that corner, what's
on the other side of the moon. Whatever. When I
was here for the final launch of the Space Shuttle,

(40:52):
the whole Florida coast up and down for miles was
filled with and estimated two million people watching that Why
because there's the last and it was people. Meanwhile, you
can send a rover to Mars and you're not going
to get that kind of enthusiasm. Yeah, people love it,
you know, Okay, we're landing. There's this rover on Mars

(41:13):
and going to drive around.

Speaker 11 (41:15):
Cool.

Speaker 9 (41:15):
But when it's people, you're more involved, you're going to
get that emotional interest and that accelerates it. That that's
where the uh you know, you get Congress to buy
in more because they have to provide the funding. All
their private enterprise is more and more going to be
taking that over. But it is that innate human nature

(41:37):
to explore and not just send something else to do
the exploring for you. But you go, you'd go there.
We go to Mars, we go to the eventually the
outer planets and explore there. And they can't land on
Jupiter Saturn, but you sure can land on some of
their moons and from there set up little research stations

(41:58):
and so forth. Probably nobody will be living there, but
you can then set up research stations that may only
need tending every once.

Speaker 12 (42:07):
In a while.

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Speaker 1 (45:50):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Command As
with George Landreth and I'mric Trader, commit to you from
the my Pillar Studios and my store studios of the
a U N TV network. Well, we're going back to
the Moon. And when I heard this, I knew there'd
be one person more excited about this than anyone else
that I knew, and that's Art Harmon. He's the president

(46:12):
of the Coalition to Save Manned Space Exploration, and Art,
thank you for holding through that break. We really do
appreciate your time, ye know, Rick.

Speaker 9 (46:23):
It's oh, it's such a pleasure to be on with
you and George.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Well, you know, Art, it's been what fifty four years
since we've been to the moon. The last moon mission
was in nineteen seventy two, and I can remember being
down at the Kennedy Space Center a number of years
ago looking at the Saturn five B rocket, absolutely amazed
by but thinking at the time that technology at the

(46:47):
time is probably forty years old. Forty years old. How
is the technology of the Artemis rockets or the Blue
Horizon rockets different from that of the buckets that took
men to the Moon.

Speaker 9 (47:03):
Well, you know, I have a little joke that I'll
tell about. Take your phone and put it in your
kitchen blender, and each piece of your phone that you
pull out of there has more computing power than the
Apollo Lander. So we went to the Moon with all
of the technology that we had at the time, but

(47:23):
by today's standards, it's you know, it's a fraction of
what we have now. Nowadays, you've got in your phone literally,
you know, super computing power that you know, a scientist
from nineteen sixty nine would have just fainted and said,
oh my god, you can actually do that.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
So well, what about the hardware art? What about the rocketry?
And again, looking at that Saturn PIBE rocket, I was
amazed by the plumbing that I could see externally from
the back of it. How has the rockets changed and
all the compos it's that it takes to send men
to the Moon.

Speaker 9 (48:04):
Well, you know, the rocket technology per se hasn't changed
that much. And in fact, a good part of the
Moon rocket artemis the space lot system that's repurposed from
the Space Shuttle, which was first flown in nineteen eighty one.
So the external tank and then the two side boosters

(48:28):
are direct descendants. They went with modifications and enlarging of
the Shuttle. In fact, they're even using Shuttle engines along
with the solids on the side.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Well, I could see an advantage for that art because
these are tried and true systems, right, you got it,
So I could definitely see what about the What about
the fuel that propels the rocket? Is that different today
than say it was in nineteen seventy two or different
the Shuttle launches? Are they using about the saint type

(49:03):
of propellant?

Speaker 9 (49:05):
Saturn used kerosene and liquid oxygen. The Space Shuttle used
hydrogen and hydrogen oxygen and the solid boosters, and so
they're using the same the same hydrogen oxygen and solid
boosters as were used in the Shuttle. That's almost identical.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (49:27):
And now if you want you know, major increases and
so forth, then you look to SpaceX which has got
their new Raptor three engines. Those are more advanced and
more powerful for their size than previous rocket engines. So
private sector is doing good job in modernizing things. Unfortunately,

(49:49):
the Space lot system now known as Artemis, that was
first developed, the plans were under President Bush in two
thousand then three first said we're going to go back
to the Moon, and by four they started to uh
to build it, but it was slow rolled. They they
did not even at a time of record deficits. They

(50:13):
did not, you know, say let's double the budget of
NASA and get to the Moon before the end of
my term and his term.

Speaker 14 (50:20):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
They didn't do.

Speaker 9 (50:21):
That, and so then that allowed it to drag on
until President Obama came to power, and he didn't like
American exceptionalism. He probably bowed to Beijing if they said,
don't go to the Moon if you want rare minerals.
And it was also seen by some of the White
Houses a Bush program not to be continued. So he

(50:41):
killed the return to the Moon. I think he wanted
to kill.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Just returning to the Moon. This Artemis program is this
you know, you talked about Blue Horizon, you talked about SpaceX.
Are these are these private companies that are working with
the government or how's how's what is the structure of
these programs?

Speaker 10 (51:03):
Sure?

Speaker 9 (51:03):
Well, the SpaceX has been developing on their own, the
the Starship, which is this huge rocket, the biggest by
far in uh, you know, far far bigger than Saturn,
like twice twice the size. Uh. And and so that's
going to be used for the for the land. Well,
there's a competition between them and Blue Origin. Blue Origin

(51:26):
is is also brand new technology. It's a little more
conventional looking.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (51:31):
And so they're they're leading the the the race to
be the ones that have the lander that will actually land,
or the astronauts on the on the moon.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (51:42):
So we've got a beautiful space renaissance. And uh driving
around today, I passed this because I'm at Kennedy's Space
Center right now. You see the moon behind me, so
that's not on Earth. Uh, but but I saw blue.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
I know that would be a dream of yours. Ar,
I know that would be a dream of yours. You know,
beat me up, SCUTTI are you mentioned something with George
said they're going to be testing the rendezvous techniques. Why
do these rendezvous techniques need to be tested. Why couldn't
they morph those from our space program, from the Apollo program.

Speaker 9 (52:21):
Well, it's the same reason that we're not rebuilding the
Saturn five. It only hardware to build them destroyed. The
people who knew how to build them gone retired many past.
But you know, there isn't an advantage in building something
with new technology. Unfortunately, when Obama killed the return to

(52:46):
the Moon, now, Congress saved the rocket, the SLS rocket,
but they did not save the landers. So otherwise that
would be ready now and might be on the Moon today.
So that's why now NaSTA is relying entirely on SpaceX

(53:07):
and or Blue Origin to provide the lander that will
go from transfer from the Orion spacecraft, which looks kind
of like an enlarged version of the Apollo capsule, and
so it'll it'll dock with those and then then just
like on Apollo, that lander will go land on the

(53:28):
Moon and the astronauts will get out do their missions
and so forth. They'll be there for a couple of weeks.
Then they'll come back up and then they'll do another
rendezvous transferring back to the capsule. Go home, come back,
and to a proud nation.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
You know, uh, I have to apologize to rush your answers,
but I just got so many questions for you, and
we have a very limited time. But I wanted to
wrap up this interview with you by reminiscing about Apollo
eight a little bit. I think it was I think
I can remember back when I was probably a teenager

(54:07):
at that point, Apollow eight circling the Moon on Christmas Eve,
and who was it that Red Genesis, one of the astronauts,
Red Genesis and I'm thinking, what an incredible time that
we're living in. Here we have men circling the moon
or on Christmas Eve, and they're reading from the Bible.

(54:31):
They're reading Genesis. Do you think they're going to do
anything as spectacular as that art harmon?

Speaker 14 (54:40):
It would be lovely.

Speaker 9 (54:40):
And actually i'm here right outside the door, here is
the press briefing room, and I'll ask somebody if they
will either if they will allow or at least not
prohibit them from reading from Genesis. It was actually all
of all three of the astronauts took turns reading Genesis,

(55:01):
a really really touching moment. Now, under you know Obama
or Biden, that would be forbidden.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
There were probably.

Speaker 9 (55:11):
There'd be sent out the airlock.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Well, you know, it's interesting. And again I'm sorry to
rush your answers or but I just had this thought.
This is going to take place during Holy Week.

Speaker 9 (55:22):
Yes, so we'll say a prayer for them, and I
hope it's all a wonderful success and it for everybody.
Tune in on Wednesday six twenty four pm Eastern time.
That's the moment it lot launches, but tune in earlier
you'll be able to see early in the afternoon. I

(55:44):
think about two o'clock, the astronauts will go go out
of the building, get in the bus and go to
the launch pad. And then then they'll they'll they'll get
in in the spacecraft. You'll see them getting buttoned down
and belt it in. There'll be fewling the rocket and
you'll hear that the famous.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
County when you say tune in, tune in where.

Speaker 9 (56:08):
Well, I'm hoping that even the liberal media will cover
it like they did the Apollo, at least for the launch.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Well NASA. NASA has a website. Will it be streams
on their website?

Speaker 7 (56:20):
It will?

Speaker 9 (56:21):
And if you have NASA TV on.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Well, you know what, maybe maybe I could try to
make arrangements with them to also air that on the
au N TV network. Art we gotta go because we
do have another guest coming up. Before you do, please
tell us how people can find out more about you
about your organization, Coalition to Save Manned Space Exploration AR
give us the four one one.

Speaker 7 (56:45):
Thanks Rick.

Speaker 9 (56:46):
Yeah, save manned m A n n ed space, savemanspace
dot com and then save man Space on x and
on Facebook. I do a lot of updates on x
UH and so yeah, follow along and then grab the
family and friends, invite friends over, have a nice time

(57:07):
watching that launch. It's a bit of history that every
kid should now grow up with because we've been in
that kind of desert from really extreme exploration for too long.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Art Harmon, we want to thank you for joining us
here in the Conservative Commander's Art Harmon, President of the
Coalition to Save Man's Space Exploration, or thank you so
much for joining us. Take care and God.

Speaker 9 (57:31):
Bless ah bless you too, and God speed our astronauts.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
And you are listening to and watching the Conservative Commandos
with George Landras, I'm Rick Trader. On the other side,
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Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos radio
show with yours and I'm Rick Trader, coming to you
from the Mipila Studios and my Story Studios of the
au n TV network. And hey, George, you know I've
said for years that I'm such a beneficiar. I have
to and shows like the Conservative Commander is because I
learned so much from my guests. I learned so much

(01:01:21):
from my host and I would not be surprised if
you said the same thing. You do a couple of
shows in addition to Conservative Commanda, as you do to
Frontiers of Freedom Weekly Report, and I'm sure you learn
from your co hosts and guests. And this next gentleman
is a longtime friend of yours, George, so please make
that introduction absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Our guest is Tom Donaldson and he's the host of
the popular Donaldson Files program and he is also the
president of America's Pack and he's the author of a
very good book entitled America at the Abyss Will America Survive?
And Tom does a good job of asking very important

(01:02:03):
questions of providing very good answers to help America maintain
its strength, its prosperity, and its security. Tom is also
a senior fellow here at the Frontiers of Freedom, so
always glad to have him on a show with me
because he's a person with a lot of very good insights. Tom,
thanks for joining.

Speaker 11 (01:02:21):
Us, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
I wanted to.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Ask you about up in Maine because you know, of course,
this is an election year and there's a lot of
interesting things going on. For example, in Virginia, we nominated
I don't mean I did, but the state nominated a
very liberal democrat, an extremist democrat claiming trying to use
the fact that she worked for the CIA as proof

(01:02:46):
that she wasn't a left winger. And in Maine they've
got a guy that's a left winger. He has or
had a Nazi tattoo, and he is referred to himself
on life with statements like he was talking about how
as people get older, they get more conservative with age.
But he said, as I've gotten older, I became a communist.

(01:03:09):
That was a quote, stuff like that. So I'm thinking
to myself, he's now trying to pretend those things, that
thing online and that the Nazi tattoo aren't really reflective
of who he is. And he's talking about, Oh yeah,
I was a marine, so I'm very normal, And I
think to myself, oh yeah, I've heard the same argument
used by Abigail Spanberger. And yet she has proven in

(01:03:32):
just two months that she is a left wing extremist.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
She's not.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
She doesn't have a single cell in her body that
is centrist or moderate, and so I suspect the same
thing might be due this guy named Graham Platner.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
But I wanted to ask you.

Speaker 11 (01:03:48):
What you thought this. I never thought I was the
day where you literally have thank gentlemen, who's a Judy
Marxist and delicate right. We had Nazi tattoos for about
twenty years. He says, as I get older, I become
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actually be favored to win the nomination. And when the
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find myself. I mean, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
I think.

Speaker 11 (01:04:20):
I'm a marine. I guess what Adolf Hiper was a
Verby Prade soldier. I wouldn't exactly study at his career
post World War One would be something something to recommend.
And so I know that's going to be his art.
I served as a marine before through the stability. But
the reality, God, look at the record, and the record
is third care and he's a very extreme at sun.

(01:04:42):
You know, there's record of miseral, probably his dad and
sayded the squad. And I guess when you carry a
Pazi tattoo for twenty years and if you the argument is,
I don't know what it was. My argument he would
be that you said never a dad tattoo would be
you're not followed by the US senator if you're not
even aware of that. But he goes to the heart

(01:05:05):
of the Democrats to become the greatest party.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Well, yeah, an example of be he described himself. This
is not someone else alleging this about him. This is
a self identification statement that he was a Democratic Socialist
of America. That was the party that he was a
part of and believed in and he referred to himself
as quote pretty radically left unquote, So I'm thinking to myself,

(01:05:31):
now he's pretending that he's quote moderate and so forth.
So that's the democratic way of doing things. That's why
they had Abigail.

Speaker 11 (01:05:38):
Spin If you're endorsed by Bernie Sanders, I would say
to you behindance. So I mean, Bernie is not in
the habit of nominating.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
That's a very good part.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
So yeah, and I'm telling to myself, what do you
think That's answers are like, just this didn't happen, of course,
So this is just I'm trying to ask the question,
which is, what if Donald Trump had had a Nazi tattoo,
would the press be willing to hide that fact from
the public or would they basically make it the leading

(01:06:15):
news story every time they talked about him.

Speaker 11 (01:06:18):
Well, let me put this funny. If in twenty fifteen
he came down the stairs and the first thing the
man media said, wow, he has a napty tattoo, and
he'll say, well, I had it taken on the answer
the question is he would not be president in twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Six Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
And of course that I'm not saying that he did
that we're just pointing out the if you know, the
hypocrisy of the media and the left look very right.

Speaker 11 (01:06:47):
I mean, this guy is the worst nineteen I mean
they've been calling them not down for what how many years?
Ten years now writing so well he had. It's just
kind of fascinating when you actually have as whole really
not or communists actually running and right now needs favored.
Wait that's not nomination, make the favor to beat sing Colley.

(01:07:11):
This is one of those gamepaigns. Somebody gave me three
million dollars. I would love to run a campaign up
in May in one ad. Would you rather have a
woman who is common sense, works on both sides, is
a nice lady? Or do you want to not?

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:07:28):
If you don't mean yeah, I would bright every day.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Yeah. Well, he's clearly a Marxist.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
An example would be he wants government provided health care
for everybody, you know, socialism. He also wants a billionaire
a minimum tax to you know, get more money. He
wants to have more public housing support. And it's like,
how about we work on affordability. How about if we
make the American dream possible again instead of destroying it,

(01:07:54):
which that's what they've done, and like you said, he's
got an endorsement from Bernie Sanders, who aligns with the
most progressive left wing kookies.

Speaker 11 (01:08:03):
I mean you're saying that if he's a member of it,
I mean he's actually made incidens of the Democratic Socialist
of America. We pretty much know what the platform because
they're pretty open with their platform, everything from their age
for traditional any Semitism right down to you know, essentially
government control every aspect of our lives. So I don't
think this is one of those. But real question is,

(01:08:25):
you know, there's only if they nominate this guy. Yeah,
I mean, I'm a really serious about the dominating this
kind of a person. Let me ho this way, George,
I'll ask you a rip. Can you think of anybody
twenty years ago did you think somebody like brand would
have even made it out in front of or or

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had any chance of being nominated.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
I think you're exactly right. This is now possible because
the parties are so extreme. An example of that would
be lots of other things. An example would be, in
say ten fifteen years ago, if you'd said free speech
is dangerous. We don't want people to have free speech.
We don't think the Constitution has any good ideas. The
freedom of religion, bad idea. Like if Bill Clinton had

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said I want to tear down all the statues of
Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, change all the high schools
named after them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
They suck. I hate them, he would not have been
elected as president.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
And so you know, so it's interesting what's happened to
the left.

Speaker 11 (01:09:30):
I mean, just go look at no case. I mean,
first of all, I have to congratulated and no king
movement because as of today Donald Trump is not a king,
from therefore lay succeed. But I mean if you look
at something blacks, I mean they were like famers and sickness,
not understanding Palestinian flag, bad flag, everything, but if a

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work was an American. So when you're wow, these things
going to happen to be any of your advant and
in tolerated and he like some and when somebody says,
you know, and it's starting to start listening to people
when they say this is the movie are that's lessens
to so soo they are.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
An example would be in politics, you go back for
you know, two hundred fifty years, we've had politicians who
disagreed on many policies, and that's not necessarily a problem
we have you know, public debates and elections and so forth.
But what they didn't disagree on throughout history, this is
a brand new problem literally in the last ten, fifteen,

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twenty years. And that is didn't matter what party you were,
you believed that our founders were wise, You respected them.
You thought the Constitution was a brilliant document that helped
create a foundation for a free, prosperous and secure society.
That was you know, in other words, you didn't have

(01:10:55):
that as a primary difference of opinion. But when Barack
Obama was president, he made a wait of talking about
how the Constitution sucked and you know, things like that,
And I'm just like, that didn't used to be something
like even I wasn't a fan of Jimmy Carter, but
Jimmy Carter never said, never said anything that led me
to believe he hated the Constitution or hated our founders.

(01:11:17):
Even you know Bill Clinton, who I was not a
fan of his either, he never said anything that suggested
he hated the Constitution, hated our founding college.

Speaker 11 (01:11:25):
Yeah, you know what I think of This is the
only president you can actually think of tell modern times
which work for Willson, who did hate the Constitution. But
beyond that, you're absolutely right. I mean Bill Pleasing would
have said they had a problem for confituation with service
strength in the finishing, that we need to remand it

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or moved in it. Peo wouldn't have beenn't liked.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
The president exactly right.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
And so but it's interesting, you know, whether it's Kamala
Harris or you know these other people, it's they clearly
hate the Constitution and they hate America.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
What they want to do is create a new s.

Speaker 11 (01:12:02):
Let's go back to Obama. But he always used to
work negative rights in the sense that government is that
our girls of rights were designed to protects in front
of government. He viewed that as the neggative rights is
the way he described and he was basically saying to
the fact that government is being denied the chance to government.

(01:12:25):
I guess this is the way to put it, be
a way to put it. In other words, government the
Constitution should be written in such a way that the
government has ultimate control. And I think it wasn't that
Hillary Clinton. He basically was that, well, right, so detment
by government.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
Yeah, yeah, And Tim Kaine of Sam Kane from Virginia,
acts as if the idea that God given rights exist
is dangerous and awful. But we probably got to take
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Hey, welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commander's Radio
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George Landreth. Is also the host of the Donaldson Files program.
Tom is also the president of Americas Pack He's the
author of the book America's at the Abyss. Will Americus Survive. Tom,
thank you for holding through that break. We really do
appreciate your time.

Speaker 16 (01:17:37):
Oh no, probably enjoying it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Tom wanted to talk with you about a couple of things,
but I wanted to kind of like answer a question
that you posted George and myself in that last segment
about could somebody with a swastika being elective? Donald Trump
a swastika? Could he ever be elected? But twenty years ago, Tom,
we could never foresee somebody like in AOC actually leading

(01:18:03):
the Democrat Party, like if they had to ring in
the notes. Does the direction to the Democrat Party, the
direction that has come over the last twenty years, surprise
you as much as it does me.

Speaker 11 (01:18:19):
Yeah, there's a part of me that's surprised. But there's
a part of me that's not. You know, that's interesting.
You know a lot of conservatives like the beat him
on the neo conservative movement, but the original neo conservative movement,
you know that by you know, people like Bill Crystal's
dad or only solve this coming fifty years ago or

(01:18:41):
sixty years they saw this sub and they basically moved
to the right, and you know, they moved to the right. Unfortunately,
you know, Bill is basically destroying any legacy of his dad.
And there's a pity. But these people foresaw this that's coming.
That's why they formed the movement, and that's by the
New Pride because they could see the let's say, the

(01:19:05):
movement through the college campuses to college where you had
the young professors who then became tenured professors moving forward.
So this was something that they saw happening and they
proved to be absolute. So I guess the question bail
shock as a political operative that one can have a
swastic to be seriously, can still consider it even by

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Democrats as a candidate. But maybe we shouldn't be some
surprise after all, I mean, this is a movement that's
been moving forward if you go with you know, starting
with the Obama administration. And I think the one aspect
about Obama that made you affective is he always took
that one step back to move to step forward, which
the agenda, which he did successfully. And now here we

(01:19:48):
are with the New Democratic Party or you know, like
I say, the different stream, let's say AOC and maybe
chapter two aware is that AOC is that could be
a membership is America.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Whereas Tom when you talk about the Democrat Party. We're
seeing a Democrat Party that's moving further and further to
the left. We're looking at a Democrat Party that is
chasing people out of this state. We could talk about
how California is instituting a wealth tax that that is

(01:20:23):
really helping out the U haul business, but we we
you know, we could also talk about a Democrat Party
that when George and I were talking about this earlier
in the show, when you look at the generic polls
for Congress, the Democrat Party is ahead in every poll

(01:20:48):
from four to eight percent.

Speaker 15 (01:20:51):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
You know, we got people moving out of California, got
people moving out of New York, out of New Jersey
to get away from Democrat politics, but yet their their
poll ratings are higher than that of Republicans. How can
we balance this out?

Speaker 11 (01:21:05):
Top Well, basically very simple, you got up, get you
opposition's think of this way. The power and power that's
building for why goes out? You know without going may
this be a whole other shelf. They basically I kind
of look about the Trump clean up, the message of
the Obama Biden ears, but the reality is when you
see higher prices, which are seeing the higher healthcare which

(01:21:27):
is directly related to Obamacare. The parking power is going
to get these things and the other one and what's
your alternative the other party? And certainly if you will
go it comes down to, well, well.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
The day one day.

Speaker 11 (01:21:41):
I guess That's what I'm saying is I think there's
a lot of disappointment and a lot of you, why
didn't this happen sooner type of deal you? And I
think going back to you know, Trump resessions, be we
got fo wire prices, but conviously it's due to the
contact in the run and as soon as that's over,
that disappears. But still health care process that going on.

(01:22:02):
He's also a Lombacare. But who's getting the blame. Yeah,
food prices are still you know, at a pretty high
level compared to what they're voting when Trump was in office,
and he's the one that's gonna get blamed, and the
guy's gonna have an alternative, and you go to the alternative.
And and as Georgian point of that, it's not like
a lot of these Democrats races, you know, they're not
going out of the way and saying, you know, we're

(01:22:22):
AFC there. They're simply saying affordability, affordability, affordability, and that's
basically it. But rarely the aspect that you have a
go see hatred Donald Trump and drives the money and
drives Democrats and so the irrational hatred. But it's there.
And again, you know, you know, people are not thinking

(01:22:44):
things rue and they're saying, well, he's not Donald whoever
is nominated not Donald Trump. That's the problem they run into.
It's kind of a case you've got two alternatives and
you look at the other you know you're voting the
other way. It's not because when you look at their policy,
their publicies of open borders, increased taxes, increased government spending, crime,

(01:23:06):
a premium popular.

Speaker 17 (01:23:08):
Well, Tom, I wanted to get into the unpopularity because,
as I mentioned, in liberal states, people are moving out,
and yet the Democrats do not seem to be learning
a lesson by that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
For instance, in California, uh, they want to institute a
wealth tax. It's also being talked about New Jersey.

Speaker 11 (01:23:29):
Well, here's the problem. Here's the thing, and this is
what we all be starting to think about, those of
those on the right and starting to look at these
other states because I read as because here's the thing
with the wealth of California. California is the biggest state
in the same well in now in reasons, well, when
you have it, but you also have a statement has
consistently been in the bottom ten percent of unemployment. You

(01:23:53):
know since COVID, Well you go go to Bote coding
and back to COVID, and they have been in almost
a mottom. And the question is, you know, how long
can the country environ nature subbot? I mean, how do
we maintain economics when we literally had major states like
New Doork, New Jersey that the way in California imploy

(01:24:15):
and if you put that, well tax and people have
to understand what the world It's not just a fact
on the inter it's attack on presumed income. So if
I'm worth a billion dollars, if I'm worth a billion
dollars in the stock market, but let's just say I
have a salary of tay ten million dollars running company.

Speaker 10 (01:24:32):
Why they're going to.

Speaker 11 (01:24:33):
Ask you on the billion dollars that you call, would
you have to sell so your ineffects don't have to
sell stock just the day of attacks, in which case
you administer return stock. The more important, as you mentioned,
you know a lot of these corporations. Anything, don't put
the Democrats in our California, you know very much thinking
of themselves. I'm out here for these because right now

(01:24:57):
it's paper passed by two to one margin. Well, and
think of this way. This will be the death knell
of California. If it's an enacted and actually they go
prom with it, this will be a very quick complosion
because you're literally will have a massive excellent your most

(01:25:19):
talented be for talented company, talented organizations, and you're gonna
and And the thing is when we talk when the
biggest state of the Union essentially is way down to point.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
They got such right, you talk about this being potentially
the death knell of California. When you talk about this
wealth tax that they want to tax what you what's
the value of what you own? Is this is exactly
what Kamala Harris was talking about, yeah, during her presidential campaign.
And if you say that this, this wealth tax could

(01:25:53):
be the death knel for California, couldn't she evers, couldn't
y'all say we've really dodged a bullet. We've really dodged
a bullet. When Kamala Harris didn't get in, she didn't
pull enough Democrats in with her in the House and
the Senate to be able to expedite her programs, because
that would could you say the same thing, that would

(01:26:14):
have been the death No, not for this country.

Speaker 11 (01:26:18):
If you put in a well saffing, nice face and
we're the most powerful economy, you know, where your companies go. Yeah,
they're not going to go to Europe because you're going
to see maybe Europeans about that far. You're not going
to go to tire Ah, so you're not going to
Chine that. So basically where'd he go? I mean, it's

(01:26:38):
not just a definite America, the definite of the world economy.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Essentially, Tom I wanted to change gears a little bit.
This being Holy Week, just on Palm Sundry, Pope Leo
delivered a strong anti war message from Saint Peter Square,
condemning the use of religion to justify conflict. Addressing the
ongoing we're in the in Iran, he declared, and I

(01:27:02):
quote God rejects the prayers of those who wage war.
Here's peace, calling Jesus the King of peace. Well, I
agree with Jesus as the King of peace. Don't we
also have the responsibility to fight off evil.

Speaker 11 (01:27:21):
Well, I put it this way, as the church has
the just work theories, which has been a sense of honesty.
So and if you ever looked, I mean, if you
ever looked at Les, say, think of this way. In
nineteen thirty six, when me of Fiser occupied the the
Metoplis on the lane France could easily have just walked

(01:27:45):
in the door and just gone right strength to Berlin.
It would have been an aggressive word. Would anybody sat
back and say, boy, that was an evil work of
trans part of it or where they said mean godja
willy I being rid of Antea or later we had
to renount now starts of World War two. World War
two and millions and millions of people were basically part

(01:28:08):
of the gensign policy. I would say that the same
thing serious, You mean, we're looking at a country, looking
at the count crazy that it's still tens of thousands
of their home within the midway from hundreds of thousands
from Syria within the palastadium that days in the act
that day themselves institution and started. They basically have made

(01:28:32):
it clear that they want to elimination of Israel. But
you seem to me that when you're wanted to destroy
a country, talk the face of the yard. Uh maybe maybe,
and it's basically it's a Jewish thing. Maybe that might
be this justification there. And I think quite frankly, but

(01:28:53):
you know what pop Leo should have done and could
be done and really prank what you said. I mean,
you know there are times and places of rewards, and
that's the very time and place the war of aggression.
I mean eight all failers started a war of aggression.
Latimer Putin did invade the Ukraine. That's a warm digression
that certainly he would not follow. The guest warth here,

(01:29:13):
on the other hand, would eliminating a terrorist state justifiable?
I mean, my forgiven maybe, but Leo should remad it
just worth there, I say, and see if it fits
it doesn't fan and go appoint my point?

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
Well, Tom, what I think what Donald Trump did by
bombing a random way, he has probably saved us from
the nuclear war. I think that if Iran got the
ability to deliver a nuclear weapon, they would have used it.
They probably would have used it first when Israel. Israel

(01:29:54):
would have retaliated. We don't know what would have happened
from that. That point being allies of Iran, maybe China
and Russia would have retaliated, which would have drawn us
into a war, and who knows how that could continue
to escalate to the point where we might be involved

(01:30:17):
in a world wide nuclear war.

Speaker 11 (01:30:19):
Yeah, tell me fun this my record, because I know
we're running all the time. So let me just conclude
with this. If I'm hopefully I'll be far more concerning
to see what's happening because the most persecuted relief in
the world, and from China throughout the world, including the
most recent in Nigeria where you have had massacres Syria,
or seeing massacres of Christians where Christians cannot even be

(01:30:42):
allowed to practice or religious asophear of being Martin, maybe
it's time for hanging started looking at back. I agree,
and I you know which is later that at that
point I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
Hey, Tom, I just said we are running short a
time won this segment, but before we go, please give
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Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
All right, sounds good, Tom Donaldson again, thank you for
joining us. Take care of God bless and have a
wonderful Holy week.

Speaker 11 (01:31:50):
Thank you said to you, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
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Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Command to
this radio shore with Georg Schlandrath. And you're surely Rick
Trader com a tee from the my Pila Sudias, the
Mystore studios of the aun TV network. Hey George, it's
two minute things each time. What do you got for us?

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
Well, it's very interesting because Mark Rubio, he was on
ABC's Good Morning America this week, and it should reassure
Americans who want to clarify and resolve see Good US
Foreign Policy, because he said the United States is systematically
targeting Iran's military capabilities and expects to achieve its major
objectives in a matter of weeks, not months. He outlined

(01:35:42):
the administration's strategy destroying their navy, eliminating a large share
or perhaps all, of their missile launchers, and dismantling its
defense industrial base so the regene can no longer mass
produce missiles and drones that threaten global security, and he
emphasized that the mission is straightforward downgrade Iran's ability to

(01:36:04):
wage war, prevent it from controlling the strait of our moves,
and ensure that the regime cannot rebuild its capabilities that
it is used historically to destabilize the region. Any stressed
that Iran is at its weakest point in many, many years,
probably actually decades, and the decisive action now prevents a

(01:36:24):
far more dangerous confrontation later. That means there won't be
endless wars. It also means that there administration is not
going to be focused on nation building. But of course
the Iranian people might be able to do some nation building,
and of course they have very clear objectives, which is
maximum pressure with measurable results. So I think it's also

(01:36:47):
interesting if you compare the current policy versus the weakness
that was illustrated under the Biden and Obama administrations, when
Iran grew bolder and they ret in shipping lanes, they
attacked allies, and they advanced their nuclear ambitions, and they
exported terrorism around the globe. So this administration is trying

(01:37:09):
to put an end to all of that, and I
think that's actually a very good thing.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
Well, George, I think it's amazing how much damage we
have been able to do to Iran militarily and structurally,
and how relatively few American casualties have taken place. Actually,
the casualties have taken place in other countries due to
their to Iran's use of missiles. The only casualties in

(01:37:40):
the where itself was the refueling tanker that crashed. I
think it's amazing, absolutely amazing, of course, as if yet
you've got to say, the goal of is it to
stop their nuclear program, is to stop their terrorism, or
is it to stop that regime to put that regime

(01:38:02):
out of business?

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
Well, it could be to put that regime out of business.
But I don't think he's looking, for example, for us
to impose upon the Iranian people what their government should
look like. I think what he's trying to do is
prevent the current government from basically mass murdering Iranians and
also mass murdering the neighbors of Iran and around the globe.

(01:38:26):
The threats because they now have missiles that could reach
almost all of Europe and all the Middle East and
large parts of Asia. So if they have nuclear abilities,
they can really try to shut things down, and so
it's time to shut them down.

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
I really think that Donald Trump's actions has prevented an
eventual nuclear work. Hey, George, we had a couple of
great guests today and we did could ask you to
thank them for ut please absolutely well.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
You always have the very best guests, and today we
did again proved it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
We had Art Harmon, president of the Coalition to Save
Man's Exploration, who was also a legislative director and foreign
policy advisor to Congressman Stockton, and he did a great
job of talking to us about the space program and
why it matters. And it's not just about the you know,
oh it's cool to go to space, it's cool to

(01:39:15):
go to the moon. There is actually very practical reasons
for why it's a good idea and why it matters.
And then, of course we also had a very good
conversation with Tom Donaldson, who's the host of the Donaldson
Falls Program, the president of America's Back and the author
of America Tibyss Will America Survive, and a senior fellow
at Fronters of Freedom. We talked with him about whether

(01:39:37):
or not Maine is going to nominate in the Democratic
Party a Nazi, a Marxist, a guy who self identified
himself online as a communist, and stuff like that. And
so it's very interesting to me that apparently that's okay
now in the Democratic Party. And then of course we

(01:39:59):
talk to them about California's wealth tax and the idea
of just taxing the snot out of people who have
acquired some you know, some resources, but that's not income
because anyway, it used to be that if you're a
million I meant you were stinking rich. Nowadays it basically
means you're a homeowner because of inflation, and a home

(01:40:21):
is great to live in, but it doesn't generate income
for you. So anyhow, and then of course the massacres
that are courring of Christians was also an interesting topic
of him. So we're very lucky to have great guests
and great conversations.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
And I'm very lucky to have great co host. And
with that, George, please tell our audience a little bit
about your book.

Speaker 3 (01:40:42):
Sure, here's what it looks like. Let Freedom Ring Again.
Subtitle is can self other truths Save America for the decline.
And of course we're approaching our two hundred and fiftieth
anniversary on July fourth, and that celebration of our nation's

(01:41:03):
founding and the enduring truths that were declared in seventeen
seventy six are very worth remembering. And it seems that
now is the perfect time to revisit what made America
exceptional and how we can preserve what made America exceptional.
So the book is designed to do that and to
provide a strong exploration of our founding principles, the wisdom

(01:41:25):
of the Constitution, and the self event truths that fueled
our nation's rise to greatness.

Speaker 1 (01:41:32):
And frontiers of freedom. How can people keep track of
you and what frontiers of freedom we're up to.

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
Well, one way to do that is right over my
shoulder there ff dot org. FF dot org. That is
our website, and there we have all kinds of stuff
up that lets you know what we're working on and
things that we're trying to educate the public on. And
we are a conservative think tank trying to promote the
Constitution and princes that have worked for America over the

(01:42:02):
course of the last two hudred and fifty years.

Speaker 1 (01:42:05):
Well, George, I also hope that you and your family
have a wonderful Holy Week and a very blessed Seaster.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
You too.

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
But for right now, to listeners, well thank you for that.
But for right now, we are out of time. That
means we got to run and we got to go.
Take care Godless. We'll see you tomorrow and that's going
to be on TBN on radio.

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