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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hello and welcome the Deep Blue Sea the podcast. I
am Mark Voltcheck Halfmeyer.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
And I am Jay the Devil Serpent Clue at Twelcoming
aboard Creep Boo Scream of the podcast. This is our
Halloween episode. Of course, has come out just a couple
of days before Halloween, so normally did we see this
is creep Blue Scream. So on this show creep boot Scream.
On this show, we've talked about the entire Creep Boo
Scream trilogy, scene by scene, stream by scream by scene
(00:46):
scream again, sure, the Scream franchise, Scream those movies. How
many chapters would there be if we went the scream
by scream.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I can pull it up.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay, I'll do that.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'll do later.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, Okay. On this show, we've been through the entire
Creep Boo Screen podcast as a trojany seen, I've seen Scream.
I'm going again, but not today. Today is our homely episode,
and we have been saying it was going to be
don't look now, but don't look at the title. Now
it's we're not doing that because I've watched it and
I think it's you know, it's it's it's a classic.
I get it. No hate on don't look now. I didn't.
(01:24):
I don't think it's deep blue cy adjacent enough. I
didn't love it. I didn't think I had enough to
talk about. We're talking about the last void of the Demeter, which,
to be fair, we did decide to talk about this
before I watched that. Look now, so this wasn't like, oh, Jay,
you hated it. No, we talk about the last words
of Demeter. What is the last voie of the Demeter?
It's fan thic, It's Stracula fantic. There's a chapter. There's
like a parent in Dracula.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Good chapter.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
There's a good chapter. I haven't read the book, the
whole chapter of the original. Brown Stuck a novel about
this fabled voyage of the Demeter. And this is the
what might have happened on that fabled voyage which takes
Dracula from Bulgaria to England, where hilarity and is used.
(02:09):
It's directed by Andre of Rado and stars Cory Hawk,
Corey Hawkins, Ashling for Franciossi, Liam Cunningham and David Desmalki
and a bunch of other people playing guys with beards
on boats. And yeah, it tells the story of a
boat with Dracula on it. Anyway, Yeah you figure out, Yeah,
(02:31):
that's it this film. That's what we're gonna talk about.
And it starts out.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Something along with the boat.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
It's something wrong with the boat. It's not all the cargo,
uh sure.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Which I love these kinds of movies, Jake.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
It takes them a long time to check the cargo.
They checked the whole boat, and they don't think the
check Hey what about those human sized boxes that the
creepy crewmer And they were like, wait, I'm not I'm
not going on a boat with that box and books
that It takes them a long time to check those boxes.
But okay, you're gonna make a film.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
They had a lot of boxes to check though, because
of the chapter I think it's chapter seven and Bromstoker's Dracula,
and it's quite long. You have the captain's log, they
explain what happened, and and they don't know what's going on.
They I don't think they ever know what's going on
on this boat. So even though everybody in the audience
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knows that it's Dracula, they wanted to stay they want
they wanted to stay faithful to the captain's log, so
just they didn't check the cargo until later in the
in the chapter as well, So you know, a lot
of people think it's just Vult.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Check.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
His name gets said a lot. If I'm ever taking
an acting role, I want my name to be said
at least thirty five times in the movie, Like that's
what I want.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Just that's and that's David Malkin's character. Yeah, yeah, Vult
the most the most normal character he's ever played. Yeahs
a dude, I think.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I didn't. Like for a while, I was like, wait,
is that David Malkin just playing a gully? That's what
this guy's not like firing polka dots or being away
game show the TV show host. It's just he's just
a guy. He's just the cool master, the DeVito jay.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I want to I want to do it to an
experiment with you real quick, to kind of explain how
I feel about this movie. You're a movie producer. I'm
working on brom Stoker's Dracula. Okay, because this is what
this is kind of what this is where the idea
came from a guy who's working on brom stoker Dracula
came up the idea. It's been languishing in in hell,
like a production hell for a while. No Mersh Marshall
was supposed to direct it, David Slade was supposed to
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direct it. All these amazing directors were supposed to direct it.
But Jay, you're a producer and I walk up to
you and hey, man, hey, mister producer, how are you?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I'm good, thank you? How are you? What if you
got me today?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Like this is a really polite okay, and you're a
busy man, So think about this.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I'm a busy man. Off my what have you got
for me today?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Chapter seven Bromsoker's Dracula. Dracula on the boat kills the crew.
It's like Alien, but with Dracula.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I get I like Pitch, I like it. Okay, yeah,
that works. My My slight doubt is, is its not
gonna be a crushing sense of an inevitability throughout the
whole thing, and we know exactly what's gonna happen at
the end of the film.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Okay, cut thirty years later when the movie comes out,
that's exactly we didn't practice that, That's exactly what happened. Jay.
So it's like, it's such a good idea though, like
hey man, Dracula on the Boat of the Demeter. But
like Alien, any movie producer is gonna go, yeah, baby, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Alien Move Vampires is pretty cool. Oh timey, Alien Move Vampires.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It's like, okay, so it's a chapter, so we need
to expand this and we but we need to say
faithful to the book. We know Dracula doesn't die. We
know everybody else dies. We know that they don't. We
already know it's a vamp. It's true, doesn't die again.
So we know that a vampire is on board, but
no one else knows it's a vampire board. So how
do you want to do that and then cut thirty
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years into the future. So it's it's an amazing idea, right,
it's any producer in the world if they hear that,
then I like it. But how And that's why there's
been so many people on it, because it's entirely aside
from the beginning when they're loading up the boat, it's
it's on the ocean the entire film. No one wants
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to water world. No one wants to just put a boat.
No one wants to cutthroat island. It like they're just
I think everyone got scared in the nineties two because
of water World and Cutthroat Island. So it just kept
going and like, okay, well we got to figure this out.
Well it's on a boat the whole time, so what
do we do with the boat? And then of course Jay,
they go to our favorite place, Malta and they shoot.
They shot this movie on the Malta on the tanks
in Malta, which we've talked about a lot. But it's
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just on a boat and it's a bunch of people going,
there's something wrong with the boat. There's something wrong with
the boat.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
What Equill just keep disappearing and like all the animals
call killed as a woman on the boat.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
There's a kid on the boat. Jay, You're you're a sailor.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Am I still the movie producer?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
This is new? This is a new setup. But you
you did that so perfect. I wanted to go further
with it, but you nailed it so good that like
there's nowhere else to go with it. So we're switching
to where where we're going to get into other characters.
You're a sailor, You're a real rough nest, You're a
rough neck. You're Jay Squarely, Jim clue it. I don't
know why, that's just what you just kind of squarely.
(07:27):
Everyone thought your name. Your name is Jay, but someone
confused you for Jim. They just call you squarely Jim.
Then that just stuck. So you're squarely Jim because the
only reason you get squarely because everyone was calling you
by the wrong name. You were a little uncomfortable, so
everyone's like, man, that guy, it's kind of squirrely.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
So it's just like regular gym and they and yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
You're just Jim, but you're too polite to correct people,
and they all just thought you were kind of squirrely
because of that, so then you became j squarely Jim.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Clue it.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
You're on this boat, the Demeter. You have you have
the Onion night there, you have the cool lady from Twinless.
You have the guy from like in the Heights and
six Underground cool actors. You have David Freakin' Deaths Mauchin.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
You know the guy from the Wooking Dead from me.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Okay, so you have all these people, right, all the
crew members keep disappearing. So one night crew members gone,
another night crew members gone. When does it get to
the point when you're not like maybe the water blew
him over the thing, there was no storm. Maybe it's rabies.
Maybe he got drunk, slipped and fell and then bled everywhere,
then stood up and then fell off the boat. So
(08:36):
after three nights of hearing stories of like this that
are just everyone's basically beating around the bush, that's something
supernatural is happening. How long would it take for you
to be like.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Something wrong with the boat?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Like what? How many excuses could you hear before you're just.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
The my fellowship, hands and eye? This is like season
sailors in this and this is the eighteen nineties. I
reckon you get a lot of calamities in the eighteen
nineties and before.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Seen it all. That is what you're saying scrurgy.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Jim is also as as many sailors in this kind
of time seemed to have been quite superstitious. And twenty
minutes into this film, there is a lady on the boat.
They didn't know, we didn't know there was a lady
on the boat. I was genuinely surprised when there was
a lady in this film. And so this is going
to be a sausage first film, But oh it was
a lady great. So I think, hmm, you got all
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the animals dying, You've got a couple of people, like
the first guy disappeared.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Was the bike marks in their parties, sure.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yes, marks and the buddies that matched the bike marks
on her back no one sees for like the first
half of the film. Hmmm, I think it's probably gonna
be a good two or three deaths because like the
first guys, the first guy disappears, it's when I think, uh,
suspicions really arise when Clemens when he sees the blood
(10:08):
dripping on little boy Toby in the rain from the
guy who's strung up in the rafters who has now
become a zombie. That's the point, Luid, you were like
something something might there might be something wrong with the boat.
They might, I'm not sure. There may be maybe probably
something wrong with the boat. With the zombie and the rigging,
(10:29):
I think it would be that point.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
So it would take zombie rigging.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I think it would take zombie rigging.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
You wouldn't get to the point where the dude's catching
on fire in the sunlight, you would, you would be
honest after that, Yeah, it wouldn't make you that long.
It wouldn't take you that long.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
That would confirm suspicions. Wait a minute, this guy combusted
through daylight after biting this child.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I just love movies where Jay, you know, we're police
detectives and we come across a body that's been completely vivisected,
like no arms are attached, no legs are attached, anything
that could be attached, it's unattached. I'm not going to
get too brutal here. Even every leg, hair, arm, any
hair has been pulled out, anything, you know, like fingernails toenails, everything.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
The body is like the guy in the poster for
Anatomy of a murder. That's what.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Just just pieces, just pieces and everything, like everything that
could be ripped off has been ripped off and disassembled, disassembled.
You're not gonna go.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
He was drunk.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
He slipped.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
He slipped. Happens all the time. It's like Olivia Coleman
in Whole Fuzz. People die all the time, and.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I'm your partner next to you just just either gobsmacked
or totally on board yep, write it down, or just
lazy like this looks horrible. I'm not doing this. He
slipped and so like we like.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Paperwork, you want to do. If it's a murder, so
much less paperwork.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
If it's just if accident, screen, give me some ice cream,
you know, I want to go eat ice cream instead.
So I just was watching this. Maybe it's rabies. Maybe
it's just like guys, all your animals are dead with
bite marks, and all of the animals the rats disappeared.
Like all my life I've been on boats, there's always
been rats.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
A boat without rats such a thing as against nature.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
No more rats. There's just something wrong with the boat,
and someone goes can be explained with science.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
How it gets It gets frustrating when like Anna comes
out and it's like has the explanation, like no, there's
a thing on board it's killing everyone, And everyone's just like,
don't listen to the lady, shout lady, this is clearly rabies.
People just disappeared.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Has a Has anyone ever seen rabies before?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Have you got it doesn't look like this?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
How many people have experiences with no one? So how
do you know it's.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Because it kills you? Rabies leaves no survivors.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
But I mean back time, like put some leeches on them,
you know, bleed them. But I I, well, this is
probably after that, but I you know, I mean eighteen
ninety seven short. But I just love how all the
rats are gone, all the animals had their blood sucked.
No one listens to the lady. But you know what
the problem is is as us as an audience, we
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know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, we're aware of draculas are things. Yeah, we have
to be. That's how this film goes made.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
So it's like, you know, it's funny. My whole time,
I'm like, this should have been a seed shiller. This
should have been that. And the one of the things
that makes me angriest in this world are the YouTube
videos like how to make it better? So when someone
watches a movie and goes, this is what they should
have done, Like, I hate.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
That the cinema sins of the world and they.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Get billions of use totally like just okay, so you
saw this movie, this is what they should have done. Yeah,
but the problem is like this.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's easy to say, is Monday morning quarterbacking? The maybe
is easy to do.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, they should have done that. It's like like someone
watching a fight out on a triple backflip and kicked him.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
You didn't cry on your face and hilarious.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
But so I started thinking like that. But then I
listened to the log of the Demeter from brom Soakers Dracula,
and then I kind of realized that they were sort
of stuck because if they wrote like, we're locked in
the cabin and it is something the vampires attacking us,
you could have made a siege seller. But instead he's like, yeah,
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weird stuff is happening. Yeah, this guy's weird. This guy
threw himself off the boat, so I thought it was him,
Like and at the end, he's like, I'm gonna tie
myself to this boat and I'm gonna do this for it,
and and then a dog jumps off the boat and
gets out, and like they can't find the dog. It's
in the moors killing other dogs. But they kind of
got stuck because I think they showed just they showed
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respect to the book, and they were kind of stuck
by the source material. So no one on the boat
could realize very early on, guys, this is a vampire.
Let's just sink the boat, or like, let's let's wrap
it in chains or let's.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Do something like.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
They didn't know that in the book, so I think
they're like, well, they don't know it in the book,
and we got to stretch this thing for two hours.
So it's it's like I was wondering why they turned
into like a ninety minute see Swiller, but they couldn't
because I think they were stuck to the book. And
also I think the budget was too big on this movie,
Like this is a this is a big movie. Bear McCreary,
(15:41):
Andre Olverdal was a troll Hunter autopsy of Jane Doe.
Good movies. They got good actors, good practical effects, like
they put a They poured a lot of money forty
five million into this, and but I think since they
made they put so much money into it, they forgot
to make like a scary or bloody or horrific movie.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
The productions, well, I mean there's there's some scary stuff,
like everything with Dracula. Yeah, it's a pretty pretty scary
Dracula when he like when he lands, when the chef
as a ridgious chef in this, I don't do the
deeper see comparisons anymore. And there's a scene where Toby
is basically the Janis characters he doesn't feel like and
(16:22):
here's a guadaga, here's this level down here. Yeah, cells
the two like big deep with sea chasing things, but
everything with like when the chef steals the boat, when
the dracula like lands on like the prow of his
his lifeboat. That's a great shot. And there's a really
great effective jump scare with like dragon just appearing in
the telescope. Yeah, just like turns around, drag the head
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that got me, and then it kind of like he disappears.
That's Tractor's main power in this is disappearing in a
pan like just cameras moves. Well he's gone, Okay, happens
like twenty times. But so everything with actually like he's
got a big, very pointed toothy smile.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Murder.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, this this film kills a kid like I always
handed a bunch of animals. But I'm always like surprised
with films that are like, oh this is they killed
the case. I wasn't. I didn't see that coming. Like
they proper kill him because he gets bitten by a
vampire stooge and then he catches on fire and drowns.
(17:27):
They get him three times. Uh So there is some
scary stuff on it, it's just the story. There's just
not enough. There's just not enough, Like this is one
of those it's it's the prequel curse, like you know
exactly what you know the bullet points of how this
is going to end, Like Dragon is gonna survive with
bo It's gonna make it. He's like we're even shown
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at the start of the film the boat has arrived
and and there's a one of the British Bobbies is like,
I can't get back on that. I'm not gonna go
see that again. Like what did he see? What was
left on the ships much?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Well, you don't see his scar, it's.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
So much left.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
And it's kind of a bummer though, because they brought
in you know, they had they put this guy, uh,
Javier Botet as Dracula, and he he's actually worked in
a bunch of films before. He was in Crimson p
conjuring two scary stories of telling the dark with the
director Insidious, The Last Key, Slenderman, The Mummy twenty seventeen Wreck,
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Like this is a guy who's been in a lot
of creature work, and they put him through all the
prosthetics and they kept not wanting to show him and
I think in their heads were like, yeah, because an
alien you don't show the alien, but they had the
money that they didn't. You know, Renny Harlan's so smart
for Deep Blue Seat because you're like, I'm showing sharks.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, dangy, this is a shock movie me to see
the sharks. Here are the sharks.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And so they had this dude who looks great and
he's he's been in a lot of films. He's in
the makeup, but then they keep choosing not to show
him him and it does look awesome. He is mean.
The scene on the boat is great, and listen, I
don't think I'll ever just I don't think I could
just like this movie because I just love that they
(19:10):
tried it. But I think they just got a little stuck.
But I understand completely why it was made. So it's
I don't know, I guess I just you're right the
story And like Corey Hawkins. I like Corey Hawkins, but
his character is just nothing but speeches. Yeah. I like
Eileen Franciosi. I need to learn her last name because
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she's amazing and twin List. I love her. She's great,
very good actors. She's she's great, but she just has speeches.
And then you have a kid who wasn't in the book.
They just they had to bring in a female element,
I think, and they had to bring in a kid
element because it then it just would have been like
you said, it's total sausage factory. But yeah, it's it's
like they made so many odd choices I think in
(19:53):
this film.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, like, yeah, Corey Holkins's character, he's like he wants
to understand the world is like his his motivation in
this which I don't think really fits with this story
isn't real pair off. And I agree, I really like
as an accent. I'm currently going through season two of
poker Face that if you if you watch poker Face
and he's in an episode of that where he's really
(20:14):
good in that. It's always it's different cast every episode
to season one, so but he's he's like a love
interest for for natasing that and it's like, oh, I've
not seen him in this kind of well, I mean
he's I guess in Nights. But it's that was that
was good to watch. These two films like things back
to back and there's two different sides of Corey Hawkins.
(20:35):
But yeah, he doesn't he just gets like speechify and
be like dour and and doesn't really get no one
has fun in then just.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Listen to anybody, and like their plan is to just
kind of trap Dracula between the mast.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
And then in credible that it works out, amazing that
it happens.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
And then Dracula just pushes it away. Yeah you could
go murder people, but he's like, ahm, you know, just
and like you know in the in the book Man,
there's a big storm and the ship is has full
sails and it's going all over the place and there's danger.
I guess I never really felt that too much. And
at one point I thought we were going to be
in for a great fog fight or a miss melee,
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whatever you call it, and that didn't even happen. Like
I really are a rain ruckus. There's no rain ruckuses.
There's no fog fights, and there's no miss melees. There
is a big storm that Dracula calls, but there's there's
no storm scraps.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
So it's try I'm thinking about damn it. I try
to think of a storm and and like that that
doesn't happen, like fog fight, and it doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
And I don't know. I think they also didn't stick
to the werewolf aspect of it, like like brom Stoker's
book does, because.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
They said to look in it they killed the dog,
they said, too.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Many people were confused. They're like, why is Dracula dog?
And oh, so they didn't add that in there. And
it's just you know, I was listening to the commentary,
there's twelve hundred CGI shots in this movie, and yeah,
they always looked at the captain's log. They they like,
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it's just it's just an odd it's so many setups.
Like there's just an incredible amount of setups. But like
they just cast a bunch of really interesting, good actors
and then just kind of not let them speechify, and
then didn't give Dracula a personality. Like you know, it's
interesting too. Everything's from the captain's log and so it's
(22:39):
what the captain sees. So you could have had scenes
with Dracula just straight up, you know, fog fighting people.
But if the Dracula the captain's unconscious or something, it
doesn't see it. They die. So they disappeared last night
there was a fog fight, I guess. So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
There are some there are some bits, some scenes not
from the captain, Like, the captain doesn't see stuff up
on deck when the people get killed. So there are
some stuff they could have taken that invierty and like,
hey the cat like, uhh, Liam Cunningham is not in today,
that's fine, We're gonna have a fight scene. Yeah, he
could put it in the notes afterwards. It turns out
(23:16):
there was a fog this morning that I missed.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Like he writes more notes and then Dracia like reads
the page and goes bunk.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Today sounded pretty fun. Here's what I think happened.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
A fog fight happened. There was a rain ruckus. There's
a big storm surge and we had a big storm
scrap so it I don't know, but I still love
the idea. I own the movie. I own the Blu ray.
I've listened to the commentary. But yeah, it's it's it's
a lot of water, jay, I mean they are. I
(23:55):
don't think it's more though than Deep Blue Sea. I
don't know if you track that more.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
No, I how I tracked how much of it is
at sea? Yes, I don't. I've done the Deep Bu
s rank rating.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Okay, so we can do it and you one, okay,
can I guess.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Sure, so our listeners when we're doing a new film,
because this is deeply see the podcast or creep Boo
screen the podcast. I watch it and then I go
back through a second time and work out how deep
the action in the film takes place at how blue
everything on screen is, and how much it takes place
at sea and deeply sea is on average fourteen and
(24:32):
a half meters of forty seven and a half feet deep,
thirty one percent blue, and eighty nine at c and
so I do have the figures for the last word
of the demeter if you wish to guess, Oh.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Man, it's not deeper. No, it's not bluer. No, oh
this is really close. But there's a lot of there's
a lot it's not at sea as much.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Correct, it is close, so depth wise, the only bit
that goes underwater at any point is when they pushed
overy over the side. So and the rest of it
is like it's a pretty tall voat up on their
up on land. So it works out about being two
point four meters or seven point eight feet up in
the air, which is slightly higher than Renny Island's Cleaner
(25:23):
and slightly lower than Gimmadadora is the shape of water,
both very land sat films blueness not blue at all,
three point six six percent blue. So it's bluer than
Under Siege, less blue than Congo. This is like in
the doldrums of films that are just not blue, a
very very dark, musty film. And eighty point two percent
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of it is at sea because there's quite a lot
of credits which are in the void, and quite a
bit of it is on land at the start. So
so yeah, do you see eighty nine percent? Only Haunting
of the Queen Mary is the one between this and
DEPC so also covered this October. Is it?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Is it deeper story wise? I don't think the story
goes deeper because it's just such a snapshot.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I didn't think about this, which we should. We not
need to start thinking about this after the Queen Mary episode.
That's now we're going to look at thematic depth. Thematic
they have more.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I don't think it has more thematic depth because it's
all speech of fine, like there's.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
No yeah, I agree?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Is it by what?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
What would be the what are the themes of this film?
Would you say.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Nothing jumps solve everything? I don't just blame everything on rabies.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Just because your character isn't called Van Helsing doesn't mean
they aren't really Van Helsing. At the end of the film. Uh, perhaps, Yeah,
I didn't get a lot thematic.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Bluer for sure, thematically blue as in kind of melancholy,
sad dour.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yes, absolutely, it's very more, it's very subdued. And are
the characters lost thematically? Like are they at sea? We
decided I think I think that's what we decided, which
I guess they are because they are unsure of what's
going on in Deep Blue Sea. They know what they
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kind of they kind of work out, oh, it's the sharks.
At least some of the characters know throughout what's going on,
like Susan's like, oh yeah, I made the sharks smiler,
and everyone else kind of catches on eventually, Whereas here, okay,
I'm going to guess some of the characters that died
never really knew what was going on.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah, so I would say that, yeah, yeah, okay, we need.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
To start working out how to like tabulate this some
kind of a graph. I'll give it some thought. The
next episodes that I've recorded without Mark have been recorded
prior to this ranking. So this isn't gonna be consistent
and everything we do, but we're gonna we'll go back
to it now and then. But yeah, the Shock Attack
(28:13):
franchise has not been how deep bluency it is. I
will see.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Volchek is a little odd as a character because he
keeps telling the people keep your science, and then later
on when he's like, what does he say to him?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
He says, you.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Can't think your way out of this one. Well, what's
the alternative?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah, maybe we should try and think your way out
of this one. Let's just give it a shot first,
So then I just shouldn't think, I should just just
just do just like run at the first thing you're
currently facing.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
And also to think, when the Onion Night goes, I'm
going to retire to a little cottage in Ireland.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
The last voyage before retirement. Yeah, what did you think
of the method of communicating on the ship that they
had with the knocking on the wood? I do, I'd
say a good and unambiguous method of communicating from people.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
But they were doing the kind of the when he
does that at the end with his cane, when he's
doing that.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Because when Toby's doing the tour. He's like, if you're
any problem, just knock on the boat. You can hear
it all the way down the boat. And I found
that to be infuriating because it's an awful method of
doing that, because, like has shown later in the film,
I was like, I heard your knock, and what do
you mean my knock? Because who do you know? How
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do you know who did it and what it is
and where it came from. It's just a knocking on
the boat that goes along the boat. It's a reverberation. Great,
this is useless. This is a useless reverberation.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I think they only bring it back up when he's tapped,
when he's about to die, when he's smacking on the thing,
and then later on when Dracula's taunting him at the end,
going wait, did you so he's Van Helstein?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Well, I mean he's at the he's alive and he's
like hunting down Dracula. To me, that's Van Helsing.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
But Van Helsing already that's Anthony Hopkins.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
In a different film. Sure he might not be. I
just got the you know, a guy out hunting Dracula
in the streets of England's Van helsing right, but to
die that night. Yeah, Clemens doesn't appear in any of
the novels.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
No, that's a PRIs what happens to him. He dies
because he's a lot. He does not help kill him.
Carry Els does.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
His book has one more page in it, and then
he's he's written.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I love them, just saying carry Els. Carry Els has
terrible luck in vampire movies. He gets killed in I
don't want to say him, but he's.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
In too much in a lot of films. Yeah, that's true.
Soul franchise, he's you know, yeah, the mission possible franchise.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Oh yeah, Princess Bridy does. Okay, Fire Liary, he's like
the ultimate BackStar.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, hey, it's the clawe.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
He's the kind of wet noodle that won't stick on
a wall. Like he's that much of a wet noodles, Like,
how do you know Basta's done? It sticks on a wall.
He would never stick on a wall. He's that much
of a wet noodle. He's over set. He's an oversaturated
wet noodle.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I do and I do like carry No, I love him.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
He's great. I read his book, but his characters, I
mean Robin Hood Prince No Robin Hood Prince Robin Hood
man tight and hot shots he does.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Okay, what I know? It's it's so hot. I know
it's one of those filmstot he does good. I'm not
a big Melbrooks guy. I don't know. Wow, Melbrooks doesn't
do it for me. Twist doesn't he doesn't. What your new?
Yeah he's twisted. Oh there, Gus Jones.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
And then crush he just gets crushed on by Alicia
Silverstone Operations Fortune.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
He's good.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
There's a thunder. Oh he's the rival driver who sucks?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I I have not seen the Adventures of col Druggle.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Oh wait, in Jungle Book he sucks BlackBerry. Yeah he
sucks in that movie too.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Who is he BlackBerry?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
He's the guy, the pom pilot guy.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Oh okay, sure, he's in Rebel Moon.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
He's cool in Glory Kiss the Girls? Is he not
the villain? And Kiss the Girls Sacks.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I haven't seen Kiss the Guts because I've got a
lot of holes in my carry out with pomography.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Let's see Nick Ruskin. Oh yeah, his name's what Carrie
Ella's plays Nick Ruskin.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Sure sounds right.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Okay, I pulled some of my favorite vampire and water moments.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Do you want to hear them? Yes?
Speaker 1 (33:11):
But first I have two I need to know about
the Thirty Days of night Boat Trip because they end
up in Alaska on a tanker and they look like
they just got done with a rave, like they are
dressed well, and it's it's like a tanker that is
just not moving anymore. Did they snag a ride from
maybe Russia and maybe use that and then murder everybody
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and the crew suck their blood and then just a
we need that the last Voyage of the E because
I don't know the name of the boat of the Yeah,
so yeah, they come from they come from a boat.
I just want that movie. I want to know how
these raving vampires.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I think that would be a better film because I
wouldn't nessarily know how it's going to end. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Now, I like in Dayshift how Jamie Fox cleans pools.
That makes me very happy. And Byzantium there's a great
blood waterfall and I'm counting blood is water because it's
just blood's mostly water. It's in the Blade too, there's
a lot of sewer work in Blade two and blood
pools in Twilight Saga Eclipse. Remember when the Newborns just
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walk from a lake.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I didn't see those films, mook, they don't even swim,
they just walk. They just saw the first one. Then
I stopped.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
They walk on the bottom of a lake and then
they walk through like they're just It's like they walked
on the bottom and then just sort of walked out.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
What did wonder like when when Tybee when they dropped
over the side, Is he now like alive because like
the water would have put out his flames. Is he
just like a sentient vampire at the bottom of the sea. Now,
I don't know how. I don't know how it works.
And I guess he's not a vampires. Didn't he didn't feed.
(35:03):
You need to fight and then feed. I think he's
like a zombie. He's under a zombie bite by.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
And I like the blood pool in Abigail, Yes, oh hell, yes,
great blood pool. And then I like the pool and.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Let the Right one in Absolutely that's on my list. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
In Fright Night, Colin Ferrell kills McLevin in a pool.
I like that movie a lot. I love I love
Fright Night twenty eleven, Anton Yelchin, Tony Collett, Colin Ferrell,
David Tennant, Image and Poots McLevin.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
That's a great cast, great cast.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
That movie rules. But yeah, those are my favorites. There's
some other ones I know, and there's like boat trips,
an interview with the vampire. There's a lot of blood stuff.
There's a lot of blood drinking. But those are my favorites.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
There's a fight in a river the end of Sinners.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Oh yeah, the river fight.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, woh, I missed that. And they go on a
cruise in one of the hotel transpas.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Uh that counts. Yeah, okay, great, that's great. There's a
lot of cruise work in that one.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
There's a lot of beach work in that movie too,
and we'll get that one day. And then there's there's
I almost just bought a movie. There's a vinegar syndrome
pop up, and I almost bought a movie about a
vampire movie with water. I forget which one it was,
(36:36):
I guess, but it's a weird one where ladies like
walking out of water.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
So yeah, okay, Yeah, there's there's some good when when
Dracula takes out the racist guy whose name I didn't
write down. That's there's like a good viscera there like
the blood pumping out of the holes in his neck.
It's well the effects and not sing a well done.
(37:03):
I just wanted to cool out A good thing that
happened in this film, Dracula eat a racist good thing. No,
this movie.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
I'll back this movie up. I enjoy a lot of it,
but it's.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Just I don't know. I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Also, you know, I look, vampires and horror films.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Can be killed with running water, okay, and that like
thee can't be affected with a crucifix. It's like a
cross necklace and it's just in.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Back up demon the demons like, no, what if it's calling?
It's bluff And then it sticks down the vampire's forehead.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
It's like ah, just like biting his lip. It doesn't
it's vary, Honestly, it's ve It's just like smoke coming
from his woe.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
You know when people tickle your feet and you try
to pretend like it doesn't tickle.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I cannot kiss on my feet are too ticklish. There
is no there is no stubbing the reaction.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I can, I can do it, jay, I can. I
can be strong with that. But it looks like I'm
purposely not trying to laugh. I can't be blase about it.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Okay, It's like it's like stifling a yawn. I can't
stifle a yawn very well, I'm told so I can't
stifle a tickle.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
It's like it really looks like I'm trying to stifle
a tickle. But but like I don't. I won't laugh,
but I'll just be like, ah, exactly like that.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I when the guy's like, dear God, it has wings.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
That's the best lie in the movie. That really is
Oh man, yeah, what is what is it?
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
It has wings. That's the best. Let's see, dear God,
it has wings. And then I'm reading the transcript right
now and it goes heavy flapping, dear God, that's good.
And then he goes, please vull check vult check. The
reason I introduced my name is vultcheck earlier because everyone
(38:59):
towards the end, where's check, vult check's gonna help?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Full check check.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
And then there's a scene full check, vult check, vult check,
like vult check, No, get the life boat ready, and
they're like, where are you at a vult check. Here's
the thing from the transcript, panting, grunting, breath hisses, grunting,
heavy flapping growls, grunts, grunts, shouts, grunts, snarls, thunder crashing,
(39:24):
go grunting, We need vult check. Sorry, just spit in
the captain and then breathing heavily. But then we get
to grunts, grunting, act striking, growling, grunts, full check, grunting,
act striking, panting, breath hissing, grunts, gas gulping, vult check again, grunting, gulping, panting,
(39:48):
Where are you gas full check? They said, again, grunting, panting,
and a captain grunts, thunder crashing, grunting, creaking grunts.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
There it is, there, it is, oh check the last
boys me the vo check story, you.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Know, would be really funny. Dracula is on board and
you're like, Dracula, I'm not afraid you. You bleed, you die,
You're nothing, and then just wedges you and like an
iron box and you just have to like starve to
death inside of it, and you're like, well this is terrible,
Like you just like it's like, okay, we'll.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
See dracut is in the box.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Like Dracula. Some guys like you'll never scare me. You're nothing.
You're a bully and then just wedges you in like
an iron maiden, and that that doesn't stab you to
death and you just stick you in there for several
years and while you go insane.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Would suck?
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I should have just let him, you know, should just
let him kill me. But I kind of love He's
like you sleeping dirt. That's one of his insult. You
feed above all else.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
You feed.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
You want us to fear you underneath you're afraid. Drakl
was like, bro, yeah he doesn't. He's like when when
he's do not fear you just just does not care.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
There's this no you will? Yeah, are you sure? Look
at me. I've seen I've seen what I can do.
You've seen what I can do. I got wings. I
this is this is going to be bad for everyone.
People should have taken this this more seriously.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
There's something wrong with the boat.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
There's something wrong with the dracula on the boat. It
shouldn't they shouldn't be there.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
I don't know what it is, but there's just something
wrong with this create.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
I think it's the thing with the wings. There's one crate.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
This brill annoyed me.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
The one guy who was going to be on the boat.
He sees the crate with the dragon on the side
of it, and he's like, no, peace out, I'm out here.
And they don't check that box. First things start geting wrong,
like check the box. That scared the guy. Anyway, it
doesn't matter, it's fine. They got to make a film
out of.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
It, and listen, it had to happen because it's a
good idea.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yeah, are there any other Like I mean, if they
did a ten part Dracula TV series, they may have
done this. I don't know. This would be one of
the episodes. This would be like, okay, the Demeter, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Those side episodes where you just don't focus on anybody
and then it was like not like a bottle episode,
but like you just put somebody on a boat and
you have a completely different story. They would make it
because it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yeah, you can do good stuff with with with it.
But you just can't. This can't be the entirety of
this can't be the only thing that is this story.
They can't be like this is a one of one Demeter.
It can be like, hey, chapter three of this ten
part series is this you know where you know where
it's going. It's this isn't like the bo end or
(42:55):
is the Demeter It's no, it's it's it's a means
of it to the rest of the story where there's
more action.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
I just would have had Dracula pluck stuff from the journal.
There were pages missing, but this is what we read.
And then you're like, and then Dracul is like, I'll
take this one. And then the Dracula writes a chapter.
It was a great chap on board, wonderful guy.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Counts something.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Good fella, good fella.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
You know they're reading. But why is why is this
one chapter of the diary written in like Gothic Sanskrit kind?
Why is it like a tracticed handwriting would be incredibly impressive,
or like chicken scratch one of the two? Why is
this one written in blood carved into the page?
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Does someone trying to bite this book?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Just two little stamps in the bottom. Hey, we did it,
We did it, so yeah, we've done how deep blue
and see it is? That's fine, that's I think? Yeah?
And how is it in a super see? That's fine?
Do you have anything you want to plugkfore we get
out of it.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
I mean, if we're doing Halloween episodes, Aaron and I
did our horror movie action scene draft, and then Zanani
and I just spent an hour trying to talk about
the plot in Scream six from the Killers because it's insane.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Sure, Yeah, I think that might be the one that
I checked out with the French and I'm done with this.
I think I.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Confuse myself more. And I hate when people say that
because it's one of those things where you do want
to say, the more you see, the less you know. Yes, like,
the more you research this plan, the more variables there are.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Is that that's the one in the New York one.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, he moves in, entires family, they think identities, he
puts them in college, they pay New York rent, they
get an abandoned theater, they killed knockoff killer. It's a lot.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah. Six annoyed me because it was that was like,
now it's Scream in New York. Everything's going to change
and it's the same stuff. Nothing, it's they don't they
don't like. Yeah, one of the things he's done, it's
in a higher building at one point. That's that's about it.
It's like some of some of this stuff takes place
on like floor twelve instead of floor two. Great.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Yeah, you know, Scream was not a very high franchise,
like see Scream one. Couple second floor things. Scream two,
there's he gets thrown off the top of the house.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yeah, and the stuff in the auditorium, which is like
a bigger room. So then like a couple extra stories
in there.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Scream three.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Three like Roman's office, I feel like it's in there's
like some stuff in uh movie producer offices that are
pretty high up maybe.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Oh yeah, and Lance Hendrickson. And then they roll down
the cliff at one point.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
But then they also have some like basement stuff where
they go down to Carrie Fishery.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
There's it's a whole thing of like but it's like
the Hollywood Hills, so there's gonna be hills there.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Four.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
I don't parking garage.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Doesn't go beyond the first story.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
I think there's a parking garage. Kill with Alice, isn't
that is that underground or is that she's above ground?
Shut down?
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (46:21):
And it's five Cream that's another surface level. Yeah, I
mean they're in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Who knows how ys there are there's there's like an
elevator is involved in the hospital. They're already stuff a
little bit that's sixty six is probably the highest in
the franchise, but not incredibly So.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
That's I think that's the best thing I've done this
month with you. That was amazing.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
What's the highest horror franchise?
Speaker 1 (46:52):
The highest final destination?
Speaker 2 (46:54):
There's planes, there's planes in one five and then six
has the higher restaurant, and three has a roller coaster.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah, a couple of airplanes.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
A bridge that's pretty high.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
Oh that's a big bridge helicoter the franchise, mm hmm, Yeah, got.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Bridge where oh that kid falls from the uh second
floor in the ladder smashes them and then also that
kid has the glass fall on them when she's doing
the dent disappointment. The birds fly into the thing, and
High five.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Five has the Eye Appointment, which is also higher up.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah, like Evil Dead doesn't get high into the last one.
There's some castle stuff in the second one.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
But there's also a lot of like basement stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah, jaws, no proano activity, not really.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
No.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Child's Play has a high rise because they live in
an apartment, remember that. So that's and there's also a
big house and some hospital stuff.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Are there any airplane franchises airport playing horror franchises like
snakes and the planes are one and done, one and done.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Jason, Oh, I got horror franchise in the air. There's
a pilot getting into Shenanigans every night, like Demon Air.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
You've got there's something on the wing of that plane.
That's that's again, that's the one film some thing.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Alien, Aliens and alien.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah, if we're going like full up there Alien distance
from Earth and a.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Hey, we got there. Gremlins takes place in a high rise.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
And you know, Friday the thirteenth, you've got Jason X.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Sure also name on Elm Street. Where is this dream Realm?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
I would say the void if we were doing but
I would say that's void predatory. Actually I've done I
didn't do not really, I need to go back and
do not Real Street four. How much at sea is
it is? Not? Because that wasn't mm hmm. It's not
gonna be very much to see it's It's could be
the most void film we have, probably Shremmers.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
There's some flying ones, but for the most part that's
the ground from dustel down. They're stuck in places. I
know what you did last summer is very land based blade.
Here's some buildings. He fights Dracula on a skyscraper. Yeah,
I think they go down into a basement. In the
(49:41):
third one, they go into the ground to go into
that town.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Like the Blood Rave. Is that underground?
Speaker 1 (49:47):
It's a meat packing plant somewhere, Okay, like going to
sewers see beetle juice. That's that's down.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
That's down. That's void Claire.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Which no chronicles Riddick, there's three of those.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, that's that's not that no way. I don't think
Earth even gets mentioned.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
Conjurings a lot of houses in Insidious has one Insidious
threes in a high rise. But yeah, not much height there.
You know, there's not much height in the Fly, which
is kind of a bummer because it's a fly.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Yeah, I mean flies don't go very high, do they.
They're pretty small.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
The Ring is entirely based on someone in a in
a well well, but there is some buildings.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Polter Geist has one in a skyscraper. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
Okay, what's the one is the Exorcist in a skyscraper?
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Well maybe with an exorcist that Bernie Hall and Nexis
goes on the ground, which like counts as the hell.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Wait, uh, what's a horror movie? Is it?
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (50:54):
Poulter Poulter Geist and a the first one skyscraper guessing
text a chance three, that one's in that one's in
an apartment complex, a big tall place. Unfriended. No, the
HS has some planes.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
That makes sense. The anthology. Yeah, we're doing We're.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Always climb something.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Yes, sure, yeah, Halloween that's probably gonna be up there.
You're looking at like the eye level of things that
are taking place out of the characters, pretty high.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
Up Halloween, he gets he gets up on second floors
about it? Yep, the mental hospital might be third or
fourth floor and Halloween Resurrection, okay about it?
Speaker 2 (51:52):
That's about it. I think I think it's the alien franchise.
E're looking for, the horror franchise. Yes, the Purge takes
place in space. Econonically, that's what even Hag built their
house in space.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
Safe unless there's like dickhead astronauts.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
On a space flight during the persih and someone's like,
I'm going to kill you in space.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
We're seeing up here, no space pirates.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Great, that's good for the Demeter. Next week will be
another episode, another chapter on Deep Busy with nineteen ninety
nine pop culture Van Ross Benish, So come back next
week for that, and then after that, I get into
the Shark Attack franchise, which I hadn't seen and now
I have, and oh boy, those are some films. I
(52:45):
really enjoyed them all for different reasons. So look forward
to hearing me talk about those with some guests, including
one new guest. Yeah, it's throwing. There's other people that
we haven't had on the podcast before. This is getting smaller,
but that will do it. For the last version to meet,
(53:05):
I have Ben Jay Kluer.
Speaker 3 (53:06):
There's a something wrong with this create God, I don't
know what it is. I'm Mark half Myer and.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
We won't creep boosy scream you next week. We'll be
back to Deep Blue. Seeing you next week.