January 18, 2026 • 48 mins
In a world obsessed with stats, steps, and sleep scores, we may be tracking our health more than
ever—yet understanding it less. This week on ‘The Dr. Bob Martin Show’, Dr. Adam Brockman asks the question that defines modern wellness: “Are we really listening to the body, or just measuring it?”
Discover how new “BioWisdom” technology is transforming health tracking into health
translation—revealing not just what’s happening in your body, but why. Join the movement where natural healing meets intelligent innovation, and learn how to decode the signals your body sends before it’s forced to shout for attention.
Special Guest: Dr. David Heitmann, function medicine practitioner to discuss
wellness technology
Dr. Adam Brockman answers caller questions
ever—yet understanding it less. This week on ‘The Dr. Bob Martin Show’, Dr. Adam Brockman asks the question that defines modern wellness: “Are we really listening to the body, or just measuring it?”
Discover how new “BioWisdom” technology is transforming health tracking into health
translation—revealing not just what’s happening in your body, but why. Join the movement where natural healing meets intelligent innovation, and learn how to decode the signals your body sends before it’s forced to shout for attention.
Special Guest: Dr. David Heitmann, function medicine practitioner to discuss
wellness technology
Dr. Adam Brockman answers caller questions
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to the number one radio health talk show in America,
The Doctor Bob Martin Show. Doctor Martin is a chiropractic physician,
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Speaker 2 (01:01):
Good day, my friends, and welcome to the Doctor Bob
Barbin Show, the program that keeps health, truth, fresh, hope
alive in your body, in motion towards excellence. I'm doctor
Adam Brockman, and today we're going to dive into something
that every thinking person should be asking right now, and
that is are we really listening to the body or
are we just tracking it? That's right. We now live
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where health information flows faster than ever. We can count calories,
we can count steps, and we even can count our
heart rhythm before breakfast. But here's what you need to
know in twenty twenty six. It isn't about knowing more data.
It's about learning how to understand it. Because insight beats
information every time, and in this moment, as science and
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technology collide, the smartest move you can make is to
slow down and interpret what your body is saying before
it starts to scream. Now, before we begin, I want
you to remember this show is about you. Our phone
lines are open at eight hundred six zero six eight
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visit us anytime at doctor bob dot com for resources
that align perfectly with your journey and jotted down that's
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r bob dot com. And we want you to join
in this conversation because it might just connect the dots
between technology consciousness and healing in a way that you've
never thought about before. So grab your notebook, settle in,
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and let's explore the frontier where natural wellness meets the
next wave of innovation. And to show you what's unfolding
right now in consumer wellness, I want to start with
a story about Michael, a forty eight year old software
engineer from Silicon Valley, and his story might very well
redefine what health tracking means in this decade. About a
year ago, Michael was what you call digitally diligent. We're
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talking about he wore three health track one on his
wrist to monitor sleep, one on his chest for cardio metrics,
in a smart scale that sent him daily analytics about
body composition. He was, in his words, quantifying health like
a pro. But somehow he still felt tired. His mood dipped,
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his digestion faltered, and every night his smart watch reported
quality sleep even though he woke up groggy his lab
work it came back fine. He was technically healthy, but
intuitively something was off. Then he discovered what's quietly becoming
this year, what's going to be the next step in
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personal wellness biowisdom technology that's a new generation of health
systems that don't just record your metrics, they interpret them
in a context of your own biology, your emotions, and
even your environment. So Michael purchased one of what was
this year's most integrative bands. I would say, think of
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it like your body's digital interpreter. Unlike traditional wearables which
simply collect data, this device combined heart rate, oxygen saturation,
the stress hormones, and your sweat and micro patterns and speech,
and it built this holistic well being model. And it
used a adaptive AI artificial intelligence core. It didn't just
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tell him how he was, it told him also the why.
And here's what it found. For months, Michael's metrics showed
a spike, a rhythmic spike in anxiety markers between nine
pm and eleven PM. And that's a stress recurrence pattern
that's completely missed by standard apps because it looked like
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normal screen time. Instead, we're talking about this device that
cross linked the data with also ambient light exposure, caffeine intake,
in digestive rhythm. With days after realizing this, it reflected
a simple truth to Michael. Michael wasn't sleeping poorly because
of stress. He was stressed because of the light and
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the timing. His melotone in production was suppressed basically by
blue light exposure, and it shifted his digestion and it
altered this deep sleep cycle in the recovery associated with that.
So Michael, armed with this awareness, he began timing his meals.
He cut that eight PM screens, and he added a
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magnesium rich tonic to his diet, and within two weeks
his energy started to rebound, and within two months he
lost ten pounds and he felt emotionally balanced. And he
also he told me it wasn't just new information, it
was this new interpretation between that and that, my friends,
is the heart of this new health technology. We're entering
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this era of biotranslation, where your devices help you interpret
your body's whispers instead of drowning them in noise. And
what makes this even more powerful is that the leading
edge wellness systems are beginning to integrate natural medicine profiles
into AI pattern herbal support. In other words, imagine your
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technology it's identifying subtle inflammation and recommending tumoric or omega threes,
or telling you to breathe in rhythms, or maybe even
it's adaptagen herbs rather than those synthetic pharmaceutical solutions. That's
where we're at in twenty twenty six. It's consumer ready innovation.
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And these devices they merge biology with behavioral feedback. But
here's the twist, they also require you to be an
active participant. They don't just replace judgment, they refine it.
The best platforms now they combine physiological data with biofeedback
driven education. You don't just wear your wellness, learn it.
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And there's this growing movement around this principle, and it's
called bio wisdom loop. It's a three step patterns you observe,
you interpret, and then you apply. The goal isn't to
obsess over your data, it's to develop long term biological literacy,
meaning you make the change and make no mistake. The
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movement has profound roots in the natural health philosophy. For decades,
pioneers like doctor Bob himself have said that the body
it's a self regulating and self healing when you properly
support it. Now the technology is finally catching up to
that truth. We've gone from diagnosing disease to discovering imbalance,
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and then also from treating models to treating awareness and
training yourself and awareness let me share a little bit
of a glimpse of what's next. At the Consumer Technologies
Expo this past January, several several companies unveiled systems that
can do things that sound almost unbelievable. One risk Band,
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for instance, translates electricdermal response and those are the subtle
changes in skin conductance and conductivity into real time emotional
state analysis, and it helps users identify when unresolved emotions
are affecting physical function. And another platform uses voice resonance
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and analyzes it to predict fatigue levels before you feel them,
allowing you to then adjust your nutrition or your hydration
in schedule your uh, you know, making your schedule proactively.
This evolution it's fundamentally uh. It's it's needed. It's about
empowerment and it's not dependency. You don't need to be
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a cardiologist or a data scientist. You just need the
curiosity and consistency. Like average users can now visualize correlations
between stress and diet and longevity patterns right on their phone,
seeing that aha moment where the lifestyle meets biology the beauty.
In these systems, it's also also to reinforce that ancient
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wisdom modern AI is rediscovering truths that have been hidden
in traditional medicine for centuries. We're talking about the balance,
the rhythm, the restoration, and that's the form and the
foundation of health and wellness, and the synergy between natural
philosophy and digital precision. That's where I think the future
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is headed. Knowing your body is the new wealth, and
and owning that knowledge is the revolution of our time
in health and wellness. And for those listening right now
who have spent the last few years trying to make
sense of mixed medical messages or sugar crashes or sudden exhaustion,
understand this. The key might not be finding new answers,
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but in finding the right interpreter. And it's a fascinating
story about Michael, isn't it. His experience isn't rare. It's
the preview of what's coming. The tools are smarter, the
purpose remains timeless, and it's to empower you as you
being your own body's best advocate. All right, And as
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we explore these wellness technologies further, I've also invited a
great friend and a special guest to join in the
conversation after the break, and also encourage you to join
in the conversation. The number again if you want to join,
is eight hundred six zero six eighty two two. That's
eight hundred six zero six eight eight two to two,
or head over to doctor Bob dot com. So, whether
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you're biohacker, natural health enthusiasts, or someone just beginning to
ask those deeper questions, fasten your seafelt because the next
few years are what where I say, natural meets digital
and the health becomes personal again. All right, stay with
us up next, it's our special guest. You're listening to
the Doctor Bob Martin Show. Welcome back. You're listening to
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the Doctor Bob Martin Show. I'm doctor Adam Brockman and
doctor Bob and I were all about helping you live
smarter and thriving naturally, and also teaching you to become
your own best doctor. Most of the time. Remember, if
you've got questions about your health, nutrition, or anything in between,
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All right, let's get back into our conversation.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Today.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
We're talking about wellness technology and I mentioned that I
have a very special guest today and it's doctor David Heypman.
He is a great friend of mine. We went to
school together and he lives now in Austin, which is
one of what I consider the technology hubs in the
United States. But I brought doctor David on the show
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today because doctor David he knows about these things and
he kind of gives me some insight on him and
doctor David Hypeman, he's a functional medicine doctor and he's
what I call a wellness tech innovator who he merges
natural health with cutting edge of things like performance, human performance,
the science involved with that. Him and I we go
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way back on sports medicine. Even so, doctor David and
I we've been in this game for you know, I
can't believe this, which was thirty thirty thirty years now,
and so doctor David's got thirty years of clinical experience.
He translates for patients into wearables, biomarkers, also a artificial
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intelligence insights and UH. And another thing that I'm big
on is the regenda of technologies that redegnive therapies and
then he makes them where what was simple and actionable
for for for everybody. And so doctor David, he's also
the creator of Mind of Dave and he's guided high
performing entrepreneurs and endurance athletes through transform of health breakthroughs. So,
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so doctor David, I want to welcome you to the
Doctor Bob Martin Show. How are you today?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Oh? This is great? So thank you so much. And yes,
this is amazing full circle all these years coming back
together and being able to chat on this show together
and uh, really just help people.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah, that's what it's all about, you know, spreading the Uh.
Then what's new in technology and where it's merging with
with health now? And it's uh, and it's amazing. You
know technology we're we usually think we're sitting at a
desk behind a computer staring at it. But now it's
it's transforming lives. It's uh, it gives us a lot
of feedback. And that's where I want to start with
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this wellness technology that the market is exploding in the
last couple of years, and I think this year is
going to be even bigger. What do you think is
one of these what's driving this and what's the surge
and innovation and the consumer interest and say wearable technology
and the health benefits associated with that.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah, I mean, it is just insane the growth. So
just to hammer home that point, because I don't think
people at home realize how big this industry actually is.
Sixty five percent of Americans now have some sort of
wearable device on them. On average, three to five biometric
sensors are on people at any given time, and so
if you have an Apple phone, you automatically have biometric
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sensors on you. And so it's crazy explosion. Especially since
the pandemic, Lots and lots of people have gotten into this.
So we will definitely get into that. But I think
the biggest driving home point that the consumer now needs
to be aware of. Ten years ago, we called that
the age of information, so you could go on Google,
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you could get any information, you could get your data
from your lab reports, but you didn't know what to
do with it. There was gatekeepers involved with it. Now
we're entering into the age of relevance. So now this
data is suddenly becoming useful, and I think since the pandemic,
people have really started to realize the usefulness of these tools,
and so we're seeing this huge growth of the market
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of people adopting this technology. Because now suddenly it's like, oh,
what can I do about my health and how can
I track it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
And I think this the wellness industry we're talking about.
It's operating on rocket fuel right now with this technology.
And what strikes me most is we're talking about the
necessity of it, but we're also it's where curiosity has
collided with it. The pandemic had forced us, like you
mentioned for forces maybe to look inward at our own
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health data, and then the technology started to the innovators
behind it started to sprint to see, hey, this is
a demand that we need to figure out and how
can we incorporate that already with say the phones, Apple phones, smartphones, Android,
whatever it might be. But the real test lies beyond
this buzz. Are we gaining understanding or are we just
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collecting numbers for the thrill of self quantification?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah? Exactly. This is at that point where the usefulness
is finally here, and for the first time in human history,
we're able to decide if something is working for us
or not. And that's the most exciting part. These past
five years, we've seen this adaptation of if you do
a diet, you can see if your resting heart rate
is improving, if your sleep is improving, you know, then
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you'll know that diet is working for you. If it's
not working for you, your body knows. And these devices
have become a dashboard for us to allow us to
understand if something's working for us or not. And that's
where the adaption happens.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah, yeah, and exactly what you said there the dashboard,
it's like it's almost like an inside Whether we can't
see what's going on in our gut microbiome, maybe maybe
we know from some of this technology. Now we know
we need to address that. And from your perspective, are
people investing in these devices out of genuine health goals
or maybe is it just gadget enthusiasm.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, that's a great question. It's it did start off
as what we called the N one crowd. These were
people who were extremely excited to buy every single gadget
and put them all over themselves and do experiments on themselves.
And that was pre pandemic. And when we saw the
pandemic start to happen, the cost of these devices came
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way down, the usability went way up, and so now
it's no longer the shiny gadget syndrome. It is purely
an ability of day to day basis, Oh, did I
get my steps in? Did I sleep okay? How is
my heart rate? Doing my breathing okay? All of these
devices can really give us actionable advice on a day
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to day basis.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And that's and that's what's exciting about these these purchases
of of these devices and these these wearables. They're rooted
in in a dedication. You know, it might be a
little bit of distraction initially, but for many there's authentic
motivation to improve their their health. But the modern conveniences
they train us for that instant gratification. So so where
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can we where can we tie that in where it's
not just the oh, I hey, I need I hear
that that beep? I need to go check it, but
you don't do anything about it. Where's where's the action?
That's that's what that's that's what I really want the
listeners to understand that we need this action step and
that and that becomes on the on the person themselves.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yep, exactly, device and data in themselves. Information does not
change habits. You as a behavior change change the habits,
but the beauty of these devices is it's the awareness tool.
Never before or have we seen something like if I
drink six alcoholic drinks the very next day, you can
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wake up and you can go, oh, I lost an
hour of my rem sleep, right like, there is a
direct correlation of having six drinks. And even things like
Woop did a really big study on this. This is
amazing that that just that having that awareness piece of
what the alcoholic drinks did to you, it allowed you
to do research on yourself of three to four drinks,
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no sleep affected, five to six drinks sleep massively affected.
And so people as a whole are now able to
recognize where their limits are, what can they do, what
can they not do? Did I work out too hard?
Did I not work out too hard? And those are
the types of daily questions that we can now ask
and get amazing advice from.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
And maybe we can transition that alcoholic beverages to maybe
a wellness beverage that has had it or tumor you know,
you know, those are those are the options that we
have now. So the definition of of wellness, how is
it evolving and how is technology becoming a central part
of that happening?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, the definition of wellness is changing because now we
can actually understand what is working for us, and so
we have this integrated blend, we can actually start to
get all of this data into one spot. We can
ask questions. So, like a great example chat GPT open AI,
forty million users every single day are now uploading their
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information into an AI and trying to ask it questions
based off of their data. And so this is one
of those amazing things.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, I want you to come back to that because
that's an important note here. So I'm talking with doctor
David Hetman and we're talking about wellness technology. Stick right there,
you're listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Are you waiting on a line? Straight? A perfect night?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
How are you waiting to the time is right by?
Welcome back, Doctor Adam Brockman here, and you're tuned into
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All right, let's get back today's conversation. I'm talking with
a good friend of mine, doctor David Hetman, and he is, uh,
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he's a guy that I lean on to tell me
about what's the latest in health technology. And uh, I
ask him to come on the show today talk a
little bit more. And right before the break we were
discussing how prevalent it is and and doctor David dropped
a number of forty million are looking for wellness wellness
improvements on chat GPT. I want you to expand on
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that just a little bit for me, doctor Hyman.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, I mean, this is a new age of relevance.
It's a new age of being able to go online
and actually figure out what is for us. Right, So
before Google, you just randomly guess if a diet was
right for you. Now we can upload everything to chat
GPT and forty million people every single day are doing
this and it's just an amazing time to be alive
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when you're trying to get healthy.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yeah, yeah, and you know they're sorting through the information
sometimes becomes the hard part. But that's the beauty of
some of these wearables. They can are the apps that
they can personalize this, and that's where I think, I
think is a really cool thing. So that's what I
want to touch on now is these many devices is
now promise to measure stress and hydration and even blood
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oxygen and blood glucose levels. And that's not invasively meaning
meaning you don't have to get poked or prodded to
find out this information. So how reliable are these readings
from a clinical standpoint something that you and I might
look at.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, the poked and product thing is amazing that we
don't have to do that anymore. Everything is right on
us and we don't even know what's happening, and they're
extremely reliable. So this is the really amazing thing about
the technologies that it's in the background, it's measuring us
all the time, but the question is wrong on how
reliable is it. It's not a diagnostic tool, it's a
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dashboard for us. And that's the big point where we're
not diagnosing diseases most of the times with these these
are allowing us to see the day to day action
steps and behavior changes that we're making and the results
that happen in our body. So sleep might we might
get an extra half an hour of sleep because of
routine that we're doing, and it's highly accurate for us
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as an individual.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
M hmm. Yeah. And I think that distinction between clinical
reliability and consumer curiosity is critical to make a note
of here. While innovation is accelerating that accuracy in these
in these so called the non invasive, the poke and
product readings, it's still in a little bit of a
of a gray area, you know. Consumers, they should treat
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that that data that's coming off of the device as
a conversation starter and not necessarily a medical conclusion. So
get that conversation started with their with their health care provider.
And in particular, what we mentioned on the show a
lot of times is our functional medicine ones that know
about it's like, hey, we want to know how we
can tweak this. That's that's the beauty of it now
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is that the whole natural health spectrum is revolving and
people are asking those questions. I think it's something like
eighty percent of people that are going to their primary
care now or asking natural health questions. And that's awesome,
And that is the beauty of these apps is that's
helping with that. So these readings, they alert us to
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trends and the diagnosis. It still remains that professional task
that a provider needs to do so best that we're
enhancing our awareness and you know, we need to create
that awareness that we are responsible for our own health
where and guided through a healthcare professional.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
In three to four days, This is the beauty of it.
The three to four days before you actually feel the
symptoms of getting sick, you can actually measurably see your
information change as that early warning indicator of somethings coming
down the road. You can start to take immediate action
of if your resting heart rate goes up, if you're
stress HRV levels get out of whack, you can immediately
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take action and start to decrease the amount of time
that you're sick and all of those sorts of good
natural health remedies that we promote on this.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Oh yeah, let's let's let's go into that a little
bit more. Which of these new like the sensor technologies
do you see as these game changers for preventative medicine.
What you just said there that the three to four
days before you actually get sick, we can we can
actually maybe make some tweaks.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Now, yeah, exactly. And there's two main categories that I
like to tell people about. The first is sleep and stress.
So these are direct measured on your app that you
have all sensors in your bed. Now you have sensors
in your watch, you can wear rings whatever you're comfortable with,
and you can start to do nighttime routines and habits
and measure am I getting a half hour more of sleep?
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How is my rim sleep? How's my deep sleep? And
this really guides us on that day to day action
heart attacks and things of that nature. Cardio respiratory, we
can look at resting heart rate and the whole goal
of getting in shape and doing exercises. Ideally, we get
a lower resting heart rate, which has exponential gains in
the long term of longevity and cardiovascular risk.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
So I'm talking with doctor David Hyman. We're talking about
basically the wellness technology and this wellness dashboard for the body.
But the technology, it's still only half the equation. And
that's what I want listeners to know that the other
half is behavior, how users act on the on the
insights that they're getting from the data. It's not just
about the data, and the data is not going to heal.
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It's about making the adjustments to our health because of
what data. And that's and that's where the true true
prevention lives. Doctor David, what do you say on that?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Yeah, exactly. I mean there's so many people that we've helped.
Even with like a simple seven day challenge of turning
the TV off at eight o'clock at night, you can
actually measurably see your sleep change and you can actually
look back at it and go that week, I got
an extra hour of sleep simply because I didn't watch
TV after eight o'clock. And it's just very repeatable action,
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step measured success.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
M Yeah, and I agree with that. So, doctor David,
we only got just a minute or so left, so
I want to I want to leave with this. Do
you do you believe these gadgets, they're truly influencing long
term health outcomes? Are they still just viewed as supplemental
type of tools.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I've seen it personally, I've seen it. I've worked with
hundreds and hundreds of patients on this. It is one
thousand percent, way more than one hundred percent accurate of
If you take this as awareness, you create habit changes,
you are going to see the results. And it's proven
results that you know you're going in the right direction.
And that's the most exciting thing about it. And we
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know through big long term research studies that the long
term impact of this, you are going to change your
life forever, and you're going to feel better and you're
going to increase that health span.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, and I agree. The greatest potential lies in that integration.
When you get that nudge that in nudging people towards
better daily choices. And if you're using these wisely, it
ain't is your accountability. It turns the the motivation back
around and then it turns it into measurable progress.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Uh So the changes equal big results.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
That's right, that's right. You don't have to bite it
all off at one time. It's just those small little
changes the little tweaks that that they're you're finding each
time that you you look at your look at your phone,
and you know there needs to be some some grounding
in there where you put the put the phone up
at eight like you said, or whatever it might be.
So so we're talking about that, you know, the future.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
The future.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I don't think it belongs to to the devices necessarily,
but it's it's using the devices to replace habits and
then making those habits into just a daily part of
being healthier. So again, doctor David, is our our time today.
I hope that you can come back on the show
before too long. Again, we've been talking with a great
friend of mine, doctor David Hetman, and look forward to
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our conversation again. All right, folks, we've got to take
a break. You're listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
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Welcome back, friends. You're tuned into the Doctor Bob Martin
Show where science meets common sense and your body gets
a voice. I'm doctor Adam Brockman guiding you through the
latest frontiers and functional and natural health. And if you're
just joining us, we've been exploring how technology can help
us listen to our bodies more intelligently and speaking on
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that balance between innovation and intuition. Let's go straight to
our health hotline. Actually this question was submitted on doctor
bob dot com. Writes Hi, doctor Bob and doctor Brockman.
This is Irene from Portland. I recently bought a new
smart health reign that tracks stress, oxygen and slave. It
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gives me tons of graphs, but honestly overwhelmed. How do
I know when the data helps and when it hurts
in How can I use this technology without becoming obsessed? Okay, well,
thank you, Irene. It's a perfectly timed question, as I
just mentioned a few of the trends a couple weeks
ago on the show and then I invited a guest
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today because we've got a few questions on this topic.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
And so what.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
You're standing in the middle of what millions are now
calling this wellness data dilemma when more information doesn't automatically
mean more insight. So let's start with some perspective. For
the first time in human history, the average person holds
more biometric data in a single phone than medical scientists
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used to collect an entire clinical trial two decades ago.
So in theory, that's liberating, and in practice it can
quickly morph into what psychologists term bio anxiety, and that's
the stress of interpreting every heartbeat as a headline. So
here's the truth. Digital wellness devices were designed to assist,
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not replace, the body awareness. Think of them as a
mirror and not a manager. And this distinction matters. When
a mirror reflects fatigue under your eyes, it invites self care,
it doesn't gell at you you're failing. But your wearable
should serve in the same function a feedback partner, not
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a digital dictator. So to navigate this, I teach what
I call the three a's of health technology, and that's assess,
apply in a line. So first off, let's assess the
relevance every metric your device provides. It's equally meaningful or
maybe it's not. For example, resting heart rate and sleep
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efficiency often have direct clinical value, while nightly stressed scores
still are experimental, maybe may only indicate environmental change or
even caffeine timing. So my rule of thumb is if
the number doesn't guide a clear decision, don't obsess over it.
Check the trends and not those single readings. So the
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second step is to apply context, and I'm talking about
human context here. A dip in oxygen after a poor
night's sleep doesn't automatically signal disease. It might be a
closed window or dry winter air that's at play. So
tie every digital metric to physical experience. How do I
actually feel a healthy relationship with data? It converts numbers
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into a narrative, and without the translation, we risk outsourcing
self trust to just the technology. And then finally, step
three is to align the tools with values. Ask what
the outcome matters most. Is it vitality, is it mental calmness,
or is it longevity? Then filter your device's features through
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the goal. A marathon ER's dawn fashboard is going to
differ from a teacher managing tension headaches. Your technology becomes
transformative only when it measured what matters to you. Now,
let's add in some much needed caution. The human nervous
system wasn't built to micro monitor itself fifty five times
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a day. This constant tracking can trigger low grade sympathetic activation,
and that's your fight or flight. By the way of
the smartwatch, Ironically, people seek calm. You know, if you're
seeking that calm, it sometimes raises that cortisol levels through
that compulsive checking. And the antidote to this is the
scheduled observation. So pick two windows each day, maybe that's
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the morning baseline and an evening reflection, and then set
the device aside, don't check it, and remember nature heals
most effectively in silence, not in surveillance. Yet also, I
want to say, when used wisely, technology can illuminate hidden
wellness patterns very well, actually beautifully. So take that time
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domain heart rate variability, one of the most promising signals today.
Instead of viewing it as good or bad, use it
to explore lifestyle cause and effect. How does meditation or
hydration or a late late night meal alter it. Let
that curiosity, not control, lead that investigation. And since you
mentioned feeling overwhelmed, I mean allow me to underscore a
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deeper principle, and that's that wellness technology should expand peace
and not pressure. If the ring on the phone begins
to dictate guilt, remove it for a few days. That
biofeedback it only works when blended with mindfulness. Sometimes the
healthiest upgrade is simply breathing barefoot on the lawn. There's
no battery required. There so let's zoom out on the
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social level for a moment. Since early twenty twenty five,
the consumer wellness market has shifted towards what analysts called
that interpretive AI, meaning that new devices translate data into
lifestyle insights instead of raw graphs. They pair with nutrition
and movement apps that speak natural health language. We're talking
about adaptogens, the circadian light, exposure, the microbiome rhythm. And
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this convergence is promising because it fuses evidence, evidence based
medicine and wellness, and it also includes that natural health
wisdom and that's the very philosophy that we champion here
on the show. So the bottom line is, Irene, let
technology serve your natural intelligence. Remember, your body is still
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the most advanced sensor on the planet. It doesn't need
to recharge overnight. So thank you again, Irene for that
standing question. And friends, if you're not at home thinking
that's me too, you're not alone. Remember you can call
us anytime at eight hundred and six or six eight
A two two with your own wellness question for an
upcoming broadcast. All right, folks, stay tuned. More insights ahead
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on the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
What Doesn't Kill Your Mexucise.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Welcome back to the Doctor Bob Bardon Show. I'm doctor
Adam Brockman, and as we close today's broadcast, let's take
a moment to thank those of you who continue to
engage with your health and meaningful ways by asking questions,
exploring options in choosing natural, evidence based solutions that put
you in the driver's seat of your own wellness. I
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do want to end with a question from Jim this hour. Jim,
I'm calling from Kansity, Missouri. My issue is my risk.
I have risks in my pain and my pain and
my wrisk and it's going to my elbow all the
way up to my neck. Thank you, okay, Jim. So
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the pattern that you're describing it, it sounds more than
just a simple muscle fatigue. It could involve what what
we call a referred pain or nerve entrapment pattern. So
what we're looking at is the median or radial nerves
which serve the arm in a hand. They can become
irritated anywhere along that path from the cervical spine and
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the neck all the way down to the wrist. What
that means in practical terms, is this the root cause
may be in your neck, or it may feel like
it's in your wrist. That's why simply rubbing that sore
spot it might only give temporary relief. It's like turning
off a smoke alarm while trying to cool a fire.
So a comprehensive drug free evaluation is key here. I
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recommend that you see a doctor of chiropractic or a
sports medicine specialist, someone who can evaluate joint alignment, posture,
ergonomic stress, and even nerve conduction. Often this type of
pain can originate from repetitive strain or tight four arm muscles,
or even misalignment in the cervical spine and vertebra that
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causes that nerve irritation, and in some cases the culprit
is a tight what's known as a scaling muscle or
even thoracic outlet compression, which can mimic that wrist and
elbow pain, but starts high near the shoulder and the neck.
So a trained functional medicine or chiropractic physician can isolate
where the irritation begins and that can guide you with
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tailored stretches. I even suggest maybe some light therapy, ergonomic
corrections and even nutritional support for that inflammation. So we
talk about nutritional support. We're talking about magnesium, omega three,
fatty acids, and tumeric. They're among the natural approaches that
can help reduce that nerve, irritation and a muscular tension
when they're used consistently and then also under that professional guidance.
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So for those of you who are listening and you
feel that Jim's story resonates with you those achy arms,
the tingling fingers, or the stiffness that creeps up through
the neck, take it as your cue to get an
evaluation now before it becomes chronic. Speak with a practitioner
who treats alignment, nerves and soft tissues naturally. And remember
nature doesn't didn't just design you to live with pain.
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It designed you to heal when the obstacles are removed.
So if you need further guidance or you want to
share your health story, all you got to do is
head over to doctor Bob dot com or give us
a call at eight hundred and six zero six eight
A two two. Again, that's eight hundred and six zero
six eight A two to two. And as we wrap
today's show, remember your body is brilliantly designed it's self regulating,
self repairing. It eager to return to balance once you
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remove those interferences. Whether it's your posture, stress, sleeper, nutrition,
every adjustment towards harmony counts until next time. Treat your
health like the priceless investment that it is. Be consistent,
be curious, and most of all, be kind to your body.
It's the only place you have to live. This is
doctor Adam Brockman for The Doctor Bob Martin Show.
Welcome to the number one radio health talk show in America,
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Speaker 2 (01:01):
Good day, my friends, and welcome to the Doctor Bob
Barbin Show, the program that keeps health, truth, fresh, hope
alive in your body, in motion towards excellence. I'm doctor
Adam Brockman, and today we're going to dive into something
that every thinking person should be asking right now, and
that is are we really listening to the body or
are we just tracking it? That's right. We now live
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where health information flows faster than ever. We can count calories,
we can count steps, and we even can count our
heart rhythm before breakfast. But here's what you need to
know in twenty twenty six. It isn't about knowing more data.
It's about learning how to understand it. Because insight beats
information every time, and in this moment, as science and
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technology collide, the smartest move you can make is to
slow down and interpret what your body is saying before
it starts to scream. Now, before we begin, I want
you to remember this show is about you. Our phone
lines are open at eight hundred six zero six eight
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visit us anytime at doctor bob dot com for resources
that align perfectly with your journey and jotted down that's
doctor bob dot com spelling out the word doctor docto
r bob dot com. And we want you to join
in this conversation because it might just connect the dots
between technology consciousness and healing in a way that you've
never thought about before. So grab your notebook, settle in,
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and let's explore the frontier where natural wellness meets the
next wave of innovation. And to show you what's unfolding
right now in consumer wellness, I want to start with
a story about Michael, a forty eight year old software
engineer from Silicon Valley, and his story might very well
redefine what health tracking means in this decade. About a
year ago, Michael was what you call digitally diligent. We're
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talking about he wore three health track one on his
wrist to monitor sleep, one on his chest for cardio metrics,
in a smart scale that sent him daily analytics about
body composition. He was, in his words, quantifying health like
a pro. But somehow he still felt tired. His mood dipped,
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his digestion faltered, and every night his smart watch reported
quality sleep even though he woke up groggy his lab
work it came back fine. He was technically healthy, but
intuitively something was off. Then he discovered what's quietly becoming
this year, what's going to be the next step in
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personal wellness biowisdom technology that's a new generation of health
systems that don't just record your metrics, they interpret them
in a context of your own biology, your emotions, and
even your environment. So Michael purchased one of what was
this year's most integrative bands. I would say, think of
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it like your body's digital interpreter. Unlike traditional wearables which
simply collect data, this device combined heart rate, oxygen saturation,
the stress hormones, and your sweat and micro patterns and speech,
and it built this holistic well being model. And it
used a adaptive AI artificial intelligence core. It didn't just
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tell him how he was, it told him also the why.
And here's what it found. For months, Michael's metrics showed
a spike, a rhythmic spike in anxiety markers between nine
pm and eleven PM. And that's a stress recurrence pattern
that's completely missed by standard apps because it looked like
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normal screen time. Instead, we're talking about this device that
cross linked the data with also ambient light exposure, caffeine intake,
in digestive rhythm. With days after realizing this, it reflected
a simple truth to Michael. Michael wasn't sleeping poorly because
of stress. He was stressed because of the light and
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the timing. His melotone in production was suppressed basically by
blue light exposure, and it shifted his digestion and it
altered this deep sleep cycle in the recovery associated with that.
So Michael, armed with this awareness, he began timing his meals.
He cut that eight PM screens, and he added a
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magnesium rich tonic to his diet, and within two weeks
his energy started to rebound, and within two months he
lost ten pounds and he felt emotionally balanced. And he
also he told me it wasn't just new information, it
was this new interpretation between that and that, my friends,
is the heart of this new health technology. We're entering
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this era of biotranslation, where your devices help you interpret
your body's whispers instead of drowning them in noise. And
what makes this even more powerful is that the leading
edge wellness systems are beginning to integrate natural medicine profiles
into AI pattern herbal support. In other words, imagine your
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technology it's identifying subtle inflammation and recommending tumoric or omega threes,
or telling you to breathe in rhythms, or maybe even
it's adaptagen herbs rather than those synthetic pharmaceutical solutions. That's
where we're at in twenty twenty six. It's consumer ready innovation.
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And these devices they merge biology with behavioral feedback. But
here's the twist, they also require you to be an
active participant. They don't just replace judgment, they refine it.
The best platforms now they combine physiological data with biofeedback
driven education. You don't just wear your wellness, learn it.
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And there's this growing movement around this principle, and it's
called bio wisdom loop. It's a three step patterns you observe,
you interpret, and then you apply. The goal isn't to
obsess over your data, it's to develop long term biological literacy,
meaning you make the change and make no mistake. The
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movement has profound roots in the natural health philosophy. For decades,
pioneers like doctor Bob himself have said that the body
it's a self regulating and self healing when you properly
support it. Now the technology is finally catching up to
that truth. We've gone from diagnosing disease to discovering imbalance,
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and then also from treating models to treating awareness and
training yourself and awareness let me share a little bit
of a glimpse of what's next. At the Consumer Technologies
Expo this past January, several several companies unveiled systems that
can do things that sound almost unbelievable. One risk Band,
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for instance, translates electricdermal response and those are the subtle
changes in skin conductance and conductivity into real time emotional
state analysis, and it helps users identify when unresolved emotions
are affecting physical function. And another platform uses voice resonance
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and analyzes it to predict fatigue levels before you feel them,
allowing you to then adjust your nutrition or your hydration
in schedule your uh, you know, making your schedule proactively.
This evolution it's fundamentally uh. It's it's needed. It's about
empowerment and it's not dependency. You don't need to be
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a cardiologist or a data scientist. You just need the
curiosity and consistency. Like average users can now visualize correlations
between stress and diet and longevity patterns right on their phone,
seeing that aha moment where the lifestyle meets biology the beauty.
In these systems, it's also also to reinforce that ancient
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wisdom modern AI is rediscovering truths that have been hidden
in traditional medicine for centuries. We're talking about the balance,
the rhythm, the restoration, and that's the form and the
foundation of health and wellness, and the synergy between natural
philosophy and digital precision. That's where I think the future
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is headed. Knowing your body is the new wealth, and
and owning that knowledge is the revolution of our time
in health and wellness. And for those listening right now
who have spent the last few years trying to make
sense of mixed medical messages or sugar crashes or sudden exhaustion,
understand this. The key might not be finding new answers,
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but in finding the right interpreter. And it's a fascinating
story about Michael, isn't it. His experience isn't rare. It's
the preview of what's coming. The tools are smarter, the
purpose remains timeless, and it's to empower you as you
being your own body's best advocate. All right, And as
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we explore these wellness technologies further, I've also invited a
great friend and a special guest to join in the
conversation after the break, and also encourage you to join
in the conversation. The number again if you want to join,
is eight hundred six zero six eighty two two. That's
eight hundred six zero six eight eight two to two,
or head over to doctor Bob dot com. So, whether
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you're biohacker, natural health enthusiasts, or someone just beginning to
ask those deeper questions, fasten your seafelt because the next
few years are what where I say, natural meets digital
and the health becomes personal again. All right, stay with
us up next, it's our special guest. You're listening to
the Doctor Bob Martin Show. Welcome back. You're listening to
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the Doctor Bob Martin Show. I'm doctor Adam Brockman and
doctor Bob and I were all about helping you live
smarter and thriving naturally, and also teaching you to become
your own best doctor. Most of the time. Remember, if
you've got questions about your health, nutrition, or anything in between,
you can call our toll free hotline. It's eight hundred
six or O six eight eight two two. Again, that's
eight hundred six or O six eight eight two to two.
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All right, let's get back into our conversation.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Today.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
We're talking about wellness technology and I mentioned that I
have a very special guest today and it's doctor David Heypman.
He is a great friend of mine. We went to
school together and he lives now in Austin, which is
one of what I consider the technology hubs in the
United States. But I brought doctor David on the show
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today because doctor David he knows about these things and
he kind of gives me some insight on him and
doctor David Hypeman, he's a functional medicine doctor and he's
what I call a wellness tech innovator who he merges
natural health with cutting edge of things like performance, human performance,
the science involved with that. Him and I we go
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way back on sports medicine. Even so, doctor David and
I we've been in this game for you know, I
can't believe this, which was thirty thirty thirty years now,
and so doctor David's got thirty years of clinical experience.
He translates for patients into wearables, biomarkers, also a artificial
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intelligence insights and UH. And another thing that I'm big
on is the regenda of technologies that redegnive therapies and
then he makes them where what was simple and actionable
for for for everybody. And so doctor David, he's also
the creator of Mind of Dave and he's guided high
performing entrepreneurs and endurance athletes through transform of health breakthroughs. So,
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so doctor David, I want to welcome you to the
Doctor Bob Martin Show. How are you today?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Oh? This is great? So thank you so much. And yes,
this is amazing full circle all these years coming back
together and being able to chat on this show together
and uh, really just help people.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah, that's what it's all about, you know, spreading the Uh.
Then what's new in technology and where it's merging with
with health now? And it's uh, and it's amazing. You
know technology we're we usually think we're sitting at a
desk behind a computer staring at it. But now it's
it's transforming lives. It's uh, it gives us a lot
of feedback. And that's where I want to start with
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this wellness technology that the market is exploding in the
last couple of years, and I think this year is
going to be even bigger. What do you think is
one of these what's driving this and what's the surge
and innovation and the consumer interest and say wearable technology
and the health benefits associated with that.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah, I mean, it is just insane the growth. So
just to hammer home that point, because I don't think
people at home realize how big this industry actually is.
Sixty five percent of Americans now have some sort of
wearable device on them. On average, three to five biometric
sensors are on people at any given time, and so
if you have an Apple phone, you automatically have biometric
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sensors on you. And so it's crazy explosion. Especially since
the pandemic, Lots and lots of people have gotten into this.
So we will definitely get into that. But I think
the biggest driving home point that the consumer now needs
to be aware of. Ten years ago, we called that
the age of information, so you could go on Google,
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you could get any information, you could get your data
from your lab reports, but you didn't know what to
do with it. There was gatekeepers involved with it. Now
we're entering into the age of relevance. So now this
data is suddenly becoming useful, and I think since the pandemic,
people have really started to realize the usefulness of these tools,
and so we're seeing this huge growth of the market
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of people adopting this technology. Because now suddenly it's like, oh,
what can I do about my health and how can
I track it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
And I think this the wellness industry we're talking about.
It's operating on rocket fuel right now with this technology.
And what strikes me most is we're talking about the
necessity of it, but we're also it's where curiosity has
collided with it. The pandemic had forced us, like you
mentioned for forces maybe to look inward at our own
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health data, and then the technology started to the innovators
behind it started to sprint to see, hey, this is
a demand that we need to figure out and how
can we incorporate that already with say the phones, Apple phones, smartphones, Android,
whatever it might be. But the real test lies beyond
this buzz. Are we gaining understanding or are we just
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collecting numbers for the thrill of self quantification?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah? Exactly. This is at that point where the usefulness
is finally here, and for the first time in human history,
we're able to decide if something is working for us
or not. And that's the most exciting part. These past
five years, we've seen this adaptation of if you do
a diet, you can see if your resting heart rate
is improving, if your sleep is improving, you know, then
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you'll know that diet is working for you. If it's
not working for you, your body knows. And these devices
have become a dashboard for us to allow us to
understand if something's working for us or not. And that's
where the adaption happens.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah, yeah, and exactly what you said there the dashboard,
it's like it's almost like an inside Whether we can't
see what's going on in our gut microbiome, maybe maybe
we know from some of this technology. Now we know
we need to address that. And from your perspective, are
people investing in these devices out of genuine health goals
or maybe is it just gadget enthusiasm.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, that's a great question. It's it did start off
as what we called the N one crowd. These were
people who were extremely excited to buy every single gadget
and put them all over themselves and do experiments on themselves.
And that was pre pandemic. And when we saw the
pandemic start to happen, the cost of these devices came
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way down, the usability went way up, and so now
it's no longer the shiny gadget syndrome. It is purely
an ability of day to day basis, Oh, did I
get my steps in? Did I sleep okay? How is
my heart rate? Doing my breathing okay? All of these
devices can really give us actionable advice on a day
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to day basis.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And that's and that's what's exciting about these these purchases
of of these devices and these these wearables. They're rooted
in in a dedication. You know, it might be a
little bit of distraction initially, but for many there's authentic
motivation to improve their their health. But the modern conveniences
they train us for that instant gratification. So so where
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can we where can we tie that in where it's
not just the oh, I hey, I need I hear
that that beep? I need to go check it, but
you don't do anything about it. Where's where's the action?
That's that's what that's that's what I really want the
listeners to understand that we need this action step and
that and that becomes on the on the person themselves.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yep, exactly, device and data in themselves. Information does not
change habits. You as a behavior change change the habits,
but the beauty of these devices is it's the awareness tool.
Never before or have we seen something like if I
drink six alcoholic drinks the very next day, you can
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wake up and you can go, oh, I lost an
hour of my rem sleep, right like, there is a
direct correlation of having six drinks. And even things like
Woop did a really big study on this. This is
amazing that that just that having that awareness piece of
what the alcoholic drinks did to you, it allowed you
to do research on yourself of three to four drinks,
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no sleep affected, five to six drinks sleep massively affected.
And so people as a whole are now able to
recognize where their limits are, what can they do, what
can they not do? Did I work out too hard?
Did I not work out too hard? And those are
the types of daily questions that we can now ask
and get amazing advice from.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
And maybe we can transition that alcoholic beverages to maybe
a wellness beverage that has had it or tumor you know,
you know, those are those are the options that we
have now. So the definition of of wellness, how is
it evolving and how is technology becoming a central part
of that happening?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, the definition of wellness is changing because now we
can actually understand what is working for us, and so
we have this integrated blend, we can actually start to
get all of this data into one spot. We can
ask questions. So, like a great example chat GPT open AI,
forty million users every single day are now uploading their
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information into an AI and trying to ask it questions
based off of their data. And so this is one
of those amazing things.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, I want you to come back to that because
that's an important note here. So I'm talking with doctor
David Hetman and we're talking about wellness technology. Stick right there,
you're listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Are you waiting on a line? Straight? A perfect night?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
How are you waiting to the time is right by?
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All right, let's get back today's conversation. I'm talking with
a good friend of mine, doctor David Hetman, and he is, uh,
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he's a guy that I lean on to tell me
about what's the latest in health technology. And uh, I
ask him to come on the show today talk a
little bit more. And right before the break we were
discussing how prevalent it is and and doctor David dropped
a number of forty million are looking for wellness wellness
improvements on chat GPT. I want you to expand on
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that just a little bit for me, doctor Hyman.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, I mean, this is a new age of relevance.
It's a new age of being able to go online
and actually figure out what is for us. Right, So
before Google, you just randomly guess if a diet was
right for you. Now we can upload everything to chat
GPT and forty million people every single day are doing
this and it's just an amazing time to be alive
(25:39):
when you're trying to get healthy.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yeah, yeah, and you know they're sorting through the information
sometimes becomes the hard part. But that's the beauty of
some of these wearables. They can are the apps that
they can personalize this, and that's where I think, I
think is a really cool thing. So that's what I
want to touch on now is these many devices is
now promise to measure stress and hydration and even blood
(26:04):
oxygen and blood glucose levels. And that's not invasively meaning
meaning you don't have to get poked or prodded to
find out this information. So how reliable are these readings
from a clinical standpoint something that you and I might
look at.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, the poked and product thing is amazing that we
don't have to do that anymore. Everything is right on
us and we don't even know what's happening, and they're
extremely reliable. So this is the really amazing thing about
the technologies that it's in the background, it's measuring us
all the time, but the question is wrong on how
reliable is it. It's not a diagnostic tool, it's a
(26:40):
dashboard for us. And that's the big point where we're
not diagnosing diseases most of the times with these these
are allowing us to see the day to day action
steps and behavior changes that we're making and the results
that happen in our body. So sleep might we might
get an extra half an hour of sleep because of
routine that we're doing, and it's highly accurate for us
(27:03):
as an individual.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
M hmm. Yeah. And I think that distinction between clinical
reliability and consumer curiosity is critical to make a note
of here. While innovation is accelerating that accuracy in these
in these so called the non invasive, the poke and
product readings, it's still in a little bit of a
of a gray area, you know. Consumers, they should treat
(27:26):
that that data that's coming off of the device as
a conversation starter and not necessarily a medical conclusion. So
get that conversation started with their with their health care provider.
And in particular, what we mentioned on the show a
lot of times is our functional medicine ones that know
about it's like, hey, we want to know how we
can tweak this. That's that's the beauty of it now
(27:49):
is that the whole natural health spectrum is revolving and
people are asking those questions. I think it's something like
eighty percent of people that are going to their primary
care now or asking natural health questions. And that's awesome,
And that is the beauty of these apps is that's
helping with that. So these readings, they alert us to
(28:10):
trends and the diagnosis. It still remains that professional task
that a provider needs to do so best that we're
enhancing our awareness and you know, we need to create
that awareness that we are responsible for our own health
where and guided through a healthcare professional.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
In three to four days, This is the beauty of it.
The three to four days before you actually feel the
symptoms of getting sick, you can actually measurably see your
information change as that early warning indicator of somethings coming
down the road. You can start to take immediate action
of if your resting heart rate goes up, if you're
stress HRV levels get out of whack, you can immediately
(28:52):
take action and start to decrease the amount of time
that you're sick and all of those sorts of good
natural health remedies that we promote on this.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Oh yeah, let's let's let's go into that a little
bit more. Which of these new like the sensor technologies
do you see as these game changers for preventative medicine.
What you just said there that the three to four
days before you actually get sick, we can we can
actually maybe make some tweaks.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Now, yeah, exactly. And there's two main categories that I
like to tell people about. The first is sleep and stress.
So these are direct measured on your app that you
have all sensors in your bed. Now you have sensors
in your watch, you can wear rings whatever you're comfortable with,
and you can start to do nighttime routines and habits
and measure am I getting a half hour more of sleep?
(29:37):
How is my rim sleep? How's my deep sleep? And
this really guides us on that day to day action
heart attacks and things of that nature. Cardio respiratory, we
can look at resting heart rate and the whole goal
of getting in shape and doing exercises. Ideally, we get
a lower resting heart rate, which has exponential gains in
the long term of longevity and cardiovascular risk.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
So I'm talking with doctor David Hyman. We're talking about
basically the wellness technology and this wellness dashboard for the body.
But the technology, it's still only half the equation. And
that's what I want listeners to know that the other
half is behavior, how users act on the on the
insights that they're getting from the data. It's not just
about the data, and the data is not going to heal.
(30:21):
It's about making the adjustments to our health because of
what data. And that's and that's where the true true
prevention lives. Doctor David, what do you say on that?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Yeah, exactly. I mean there's so many people that we've helped.
Even with like a simple seven day challenge of turning
the TV off at eight o'clock at night, you can
actually measurably see your sleep change and you can actually
look back at it and go that week, I got
an extra hour of sleep simply because I didn't watch
TV after eight o'clock. And it's just very repeatable action,
(30:54):
step measured success.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
M Yeah, and I agree with that. So, doctor David,
we only got just a minute or so left, so
I want to I want to leave with this. Do
you do you believe these gadgets, they're truly influencing long
term health outcomes? Are they still just viewed as supplemental
type of tools.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I've seen it personally, I've seen it. I've worked with
hundreds and hundreds of patients on this. It is one
thousand percent, way more than one hundred percent accurate of
If you take this as awareness, you create habit changes,
you are going to see the results. And it's proven
results that you know you're going in the right direction.
And that's the most exciting thing about it. And we
(31:36):
know through big long term research studies that the long
term impact of this, you are going to change your
life forever, and you're going to feel better and you're
going to increase that health span.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, and I agree. The greatest potential lies in that integration.
When you get that nudge that in nudging people towards
better daily choices. And if you're using these wisely, it
ain't is your accountability. It turns the the motivation back
around and then it turns it into measurable progress.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Uh So the changes equal big results.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
That's right, that's right. You don't have to bite it
all off at one time. It's just those small little
changes the little tweaks that that they're you're finding each
time that you you look at your look at your phone,
and you know there needs to be some some grounding
in there where you put the put the phone up
at eight like you said, or whatever it might be.
So so we're talking about that, you know, the future.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
The future.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I don't think it belongs to to the devices necessarily,
but it's it's using the devices to replace habits and
then making those habits into just a daily part of
being healthier. So again, doctor David, is our our time today.
I hope that you can come back on the show
before too long. Again, we've been talking with a great
friend of mine, doctor David Hetman, and look forward to
(32:52):
our conversation again. All right, folks, we've got to take
a break. You're listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
(36:17):
Welcome back, friends. You're tuned into the Doctor Bob Martin
Show where science meets common sense and your body gets
a voice. I'm doctor Adam Brockman guiding you through the
latest frontiers and functional and natural health. And if you're
just joining us, we've been exploring how technology can help
us listen to our bodies more intelligently and speaking on
(36:39):
that balance between innovation and intuition. Let's go straight to
our health hotline. Actually this question was submitted on doctor
bob dot com. Writes Hi, doctor Bob and doctor Brockman.
This is Irene from Portland. I recently bought a new
smart health reign that tracks stress, oxygen and slave. It
(37:00):
gives me tons of graphs, but honestly overwhelmed. How do
I know when the data helps and when it hurts
in How can I use this technology without becoming obsessed? Okay, well,
thank you, Irene. It's a perfectly timed question, as I
just mentioned a few of the trends a couple weeks
ago on the show and then I invited a guest
(37:22):
today because we've got a few questions on this topic.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
And so what.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
You're standing in the middle of what millions are now
calling this wellness data dilemma when more information doesn't automatically
mean more insight. So let's start with some perspective. For
the first time in human history, the average person holds
more biometric data in a single phone than medical scientists
(37:46):
used to collect an entire clinical trial two decades ago.
So in theory, that's liberating, and in practice it can
quickly morph into what psychologists term bio anxiety, and that's
the stress of interpreting every heartbeat as a headline. So
here's the truth. Digital wellness devices were designed to assist,
(38:07):
not replace, the body awareness. Think of them as a
mirror and not a manager. And this distinction matters. When
a mirror reflects fatigue under your eyes, it invites self care,
it doesn't gell at you you're failing. But your wearable
should serve in the same function a feedback partner, not
(38:27):
a digital dictator. So to navigate this, I teach what
I call the three a's of health technology, and that's assess,
apply in a line. So first off, let's assess the
relevance every metric your device provides. It's equally meaningful or
maybe it's not. For example, resting heart rate and sleep
(38:49):
efficiency often have direct clinical value, while nightly stressed scores
still are experimental, maybe may only indicate environmental change or
even caffeine timing. So my rule of thumb is if
the number doesn't guide a clear decision, don't obsess over it.
Check the trends and not those single readings. So the
(39:13):
second step is to apply context, and I'm talking about
human context here. A dip in oxygen after a poor
night's sleep doesn't automatically signal disease. It might be a
closed window or dry winter air that's at play. So
tie every digital metric to physical experience. How do I
actually feel a healthy relationship with data? It converts numbers
(39:36):
into a narrative, and without the translation, we risk outsourcing
self trust to just the technology. And then finally, step
three is to align the tools with values. Ask what
the outcome matters most. Is it vitality, is it mental calmness,
or is it longevity? Then filter your device's features through
(39:57):
the goal. A marathon ER's dawn fashboard is going to
differ from a teacher managing tension headaches. Your technology becomes
transformative only when it measured what matters to you. Now,
let's add in some much needed caution. The human nervous
system wasn't built to micro monitor itself fifty five times
(40:18):
a day. This constant tracking can trigger low grade sympathetic activation,
and that's your fight or flight. By the way of
the smartwatch, Ironically, people seek calm. You know, if you're
seeking that calm, it sometimes raises that cortisol levels through
that compulsive checking. And the antidote to this is the
scheduled observation. So pick two windows each day, maybe that's
(40:42):
the morning baseline and an evening reflection, and then set
the device aside, don't check it, and remember nature heals
most effectively in silence, not in surveillance. Yet also, I
want to say, when used wisely, technology can illuminate hidden
wellness patterns very well, actually beautifully. So take that time
(41:05):
domain heart rate variability, one of the most promising signals today.
Instead of viewing it as good or bad, use it
to explore lifestyle cause and effect. How does meditation or
hydration or a late late night meal alter it. Let
that curiosity, not control, lead that investigation. And since you
mentioned feeling overwhelmed, I mean allow me to underscore a
(41:26):
deeper principle, and that's that wellness technology should expand peace
and not pressure. If the ring on the phone begins
to dictate guilt, remove it for a few days. That
biofeedback it only works when blended with mindfulness. Sometimes the
healthiest upgrade is simply breathing barefoot on the lawn. There's
no battery required. There so let's zoom out on the
(41:50):
social level for a moment. Since early twenty twenty five,
the consumer wellness market has shifted towards what analysts called
that interpretive AI, meaning that new devices translate data into
lifestyle insights instead of raw graphs. They pair with nutrition
and movement apps that speak natural health language. We're talking
about adaptogens, the circadian light, exposure, the microbiome rhythm. And
(42:15):
this convergence is promising because it fuses evidence, evidence based
medicine and wellness, and it also includes that natural health
wisdom and that's the very philosophy that we champion here
on the show. So the bottom line is, Irene, let
technology serve your natural intelligence. Remember, your body is still
(42:35):
the most advanced sensor on the planet. It doesn't need
to recharge overnight. So thank you again, Irene for that
standing question. And friends, if you're not at home thinking
that's me too, you're not alone. Remember you can call
us anytime at eight hundred and six or six eight
A two two with your own wellness question for an
upcoming broadcast. All right, folks, stay tuned. More insights ahead
(42:56):
on the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
What Doesn't Kill Your Mexucise.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Welcome back to the Doctor Bob Bardon Show. I'm doctor
Adam Brockman, and as we close today's broadcast, let's take
a moment to thank those of you who continue to
engage with your health and meaningful ways by asking questions,
exploring options in choosing natural, evidence based solutions that put
you in the driver's seat of your own wellness. I
(46:32):
do want to end with a question from Jim this hour. Jim,
I'm calling from Kansity, Missouri. My issue is my risk.
I have risks in my pain and my pain and
my wrisk and it's going to my elbow all the
way up to my neck. Thank you, okay, Jim. So
(46:53):
the pattern that you're describing it, it sounds more than
just a simple muscle fatigue. It could involve what what
we call a referred pain or nerve entrapment pattern. So
what we're looking at is the median or radial nerves
which serve the arm in a hand. They can become
irritated anywhere along that path from the cervical spine and
(47:14):
the neck all the way down to the wrist. What
that means in practical terms, is this the root cause
may be in your neck, or it may feel like
it's in your wrist. That's why simply rubbing that sore
spot it might only give temporary relief. It's like turning
off a smoke alarm while trying to cool a fire.
So a comprehensive drug free evaluation is key here. I
(47:38):
recommend that you see a doctor of chiropractic or a
sports medicine specialist, someone who can evaluate joint alignment, posture,
ergonomic stress, and even nerve conduction. Often this type of
pain can originate from repetitive strain or tight four arm muscles,
or even misalignment in the cervical spine and vertebra that
(47:58):
causes that nerve irritation, and in some cases the culprit
is a tight what's known as a scaling muscle or
even thoracic outlet compression, which can mimic that wrist and
elbow pain, but starts high near the shoulder and the neck.
So a trained functional medicine or chiropractic physician can isolate
where the irritation begins and that can guide you with
(48:20):
tailored stretches. I even suggest maybe some light therapy, ergonomic
corrections and even nutritional support for that inflammation. So we
talk about nutritional support. We're talking about magnesium, omega three,
fatty acids, and tumeric. They're among the natural approaches that
can help reduce that nerve, irritation and a muscular tension
when they're used consistently and then also under that professional guidance.
(48:44):
So for those of you who are listening and you
feel that Jim's story resonates with you those achy arms,
the tingling fingers, or the stiffness that creeps up through
the neck, take it as your cue to get an
evaluation now before it becomes chronic. Speak with a practitioner
who treats alignment, nerves and soft tissues naturally. And remember
nature doesn't didn't just design you to live with pain.
(49:06):
It designed you to heal when the obstacles are removed.
So if you need further guidance or you want to
share your health story, all you got to do is
head over to doctor Bob dot com or give us
a call at eight hundred and six zero six eight
A two two. Again, that's eight hundred and six zero
six eight A two to two. And as we wrap
today's show, remember your body is brilliantly designed it's self regulating,
self repairing. It eager to return to balance once you
(49:28):
remove those interferences. Whether it's your posture, stress, sleeper, nutrition,
every adjustment towards harmony counts until next time. Treat your
health like the priceless investment that it is. Be consistent,
be curious, and most of all, be kind to your body.
It's the only place you have to live. This is
doctor Adam Brockman for The Doctor Bob Martin Show.
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