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January 12, 2026 46 mins
What if lasting mental and physical wellness didn’t come from another pill, but from nourishing your body at the cellular level? Join Dr. Adam Brockman in a powerful conversation with Dallin Hardy, MSc, product development scientist and family wellness advocate at Hardy Nutritionals. Together, they unpack groundbreaking research, real-world success stories, and science-backed strategies to naturally elevate mood, sharpen focus, and restore full-body balance. Discover how broad-spectrum micronutrients are changing the conversation around mental health—and learn how you can take genuine, sustainable control of your emotional and physical vitality.

Special Guest: Dallin Hardy, MSc, Product Development Scientist, Hardy
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just inspire someone else to begin their own story. And
today we have a special guest. He's coming back to
the show to discuss the importance of micronutrients. So what
are micro nutrients, you might ask. Now, let's just start
with the basics. When we talk about nutrition, most folks

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focus on the big players, the carbohydrates, the proteins, the fats.
Those are known as your macro nutrients. These are your
body's fuel sources. But the true spark of life comes
from the micronutrients, the tiny partners that help your body
use that fuel efficiently. And without them, your cells simply

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can't perform their jobs. So what exactly are micro nutrients.
They're the vitamins, the minerals your body requires in small amounts,
but they're absolutely essential for health. While you can survive
on calories alone for a short period of time, you
cannot thrive without these critical nutrients. Think of them as

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the spark plugs of your biological engine. That car may
have gas, but without a spark, it won't run. And micronutrients.
They fall into two main categories. It's vitamins and minerals. Vitamins,
there's the the organic compounds. They're produced by plants and
animals that your body either can't make or can't produce

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in sufficient quantities. This means that you must get them
from your diet, and they're divided into two types. The
fat soluble vitamins like AD and K, which are stored
in your body's fat tissue, and then there's water soluble
vitamins like the eight B vitamins in vitamin C, which

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must be replenished frequently because they're not stored in our
body for long. Each vitamin plays a unique role. For example,
Vitamin A keeps your eyesight sharp and your immune system strong,
Vitamin D it helps your body absorb calcium and strengthens bones.
And the complex vitamins they convert food into energy, and

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while vitamin C it protects cells from damage and supports
collagen production. And that's a key ingredient in the youthful
skin and resilient joints that we all want now onto minerals.
These are the inorganic elements that come from the Earth
and make their way into our bodies through food. They're
the building blocks for everything from bones to hormones. Some

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like calcium, magnesium, and potassium are needed in larger amounts,
and so you can maybe call those macromnerals. The others,
such as iron, zinc, iodine, they're required in just trace amounts,
yet their absence can create major health issues. So how
do we ensure that we're getting enough macro or micronutrients.

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It starts with choosing real food over processed food. The
vibrant colors of fruits and vegetables aren't just beautiful, they're
nutrients signals from nature. Eat the rainbow, deep greens, the oranges,
bold reds, and rich purples. Each shade corresponds to different vitamins, minerals,
and antioxidants. And of course, even with healthy eating, deficiencies

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are common to depleted soil in our stress on our bodies, medications,
and poor digestion. This is where strategic supplementation and occasional
lab testing can help to optimize your micronutrient balance. The
bottom line is micronutrients may be small but their impact
is monumental. They are the architects of our health in

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the unseen hand between behind energy, immunity, and vitality, and
without them, your system, your whole body struggles, and with
them it thrives. So the next time you sit down
to a meal, remember every bite is an opportunity not
just to eat, but also nourish your body. Because truth,
health doesn't come from the calories alone. It comes from

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the quality of what we feed ourselves. And to join
in this conversation after the break is our very special guest.
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eight eight two to two. All right, before the break,
we were talking about having our special guest today and

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Dallan was on the show. Dalan Hardy was on the
show just about a month ago discussing micro nutrients and
the and how it can help help you, including a
through the cognitive function. It can have many different, many
different benefits. So I invited him back on the show
to discuss this a little bit further. I want to
introduce Dallan Dollen. He grew up in southern Alberta, Canada,

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and he was the tenth of thirteen children. He enjoys hiking, fishing, singing, soccer, woodworking, gardening,
and spending time with his wife and children. He's a
man of many interests, I guess, and he's also interested
in regenaive agriculture and enjoys the challenge of producing healthy
homegrown food. And as a son of the Hardy Nutritionals

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founder David Hardy, he played the role of basically being
a psychiatric nurse while his father used this broad spectrum
micronutrient formula to stabilize a brother that was having some
mental health issues, and then also a sister with postpartum depression.
So these formulas in this experiences with his own siblings

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made him focus his career interest on nutrition and mental health,
so Dallan's He obtained his degree in Biochemistry in Food
Science Masters in Food Science from Brigham Young University and
there he collaborated with various nonprofit charities in the BYU
School of Nursing to fortify soy milk and micro nutrients

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for undernourished children in Ecuador. He has been a scientist
at Hardy Nutritionals for over nine years now and his
duties include product development, quality assurance, and training health professionals
on the clinical application of Hardy Nutritional products. And he
also collaborate rates with independent researchers around the world. So
there you have it. His his passionate about Hardy Nutritional's mission

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to deliver mental wellness naturally. With that said, I want
to welcome Dallan Hardy to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
How are you today, Dollan.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
I'm doing great. Thanks for having me, Adam great great.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Well.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
We love having you. It was a it was a
great conversation. I got a lot of feedback from from
listeners on uh, you know, questions asked about can this
help with UH with with you know, mental wellness, Like
I could really hit the last conversation in today's conversation,
I want to hit on a few other other benefits
that the micronutrients Hardy nutritionals, micronutrient blends UH can can

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help with. But I want to I want to back
up to because it's a very interesting story. I want
to back up to how your your father, David Hardy,
how the company came about. Can you can you tell
our listeners a little bit more about that again?

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Yeah, so it's really serendipitous. He is an animal feed formulator.
The animal industry has been supplementing, supplementing heavily for a
long time, broadly this broad spectrum approach where you give
a lot of nutrients, all the essential nutrients basically. And
that's because the money's in health. My dad always said
animal nutrition is thirty years ahead of human nutrition because

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you can experiment on them. For one, you can't do
that with humans. And the money's in health, not in sickness.
You know, doctors had when you're sick, so the incentives
are kind of back. But yeah, and then you know
a family friend, his wife had committed suicide, and he
had kids that were in and out of the psychiatric hospital,
the revolving door type patients. I like to say, that's
common in psychiatry. And then because you know, the problems

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persist in spite of the treatments, and so with medications
at least, and so yeah, he just recommended nutrients and
had dramatic effects to supplement in a broad spectrum way
and with adequate doses. And so then my dad saw
the opportunity switch to human nutrition. We didn't supplement though

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in our family preventively at all. We were still in
sort of the like the doctor run your sick mindset,
you know. But until a couple of my siblings had
some mental illness issues and then saw my dad's formulas
applied in house, and I lived with some some pretty
intense mental illness, and because this biological input, just physical

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micronutrients made the change for them, for me and for
our family. Like mental illness, first of all, it's it's
not a lifelong sentence, like it's reversible to us. We
believe that and I've lived it. And also the stigma's gone,
you know, like when someone has a broken arm, you
can see it One of the problems with psychiatric illnesses

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is is it's inside the person's head. You can't see it.
And the gold standard in psychiatry is still like list
your symptoms for me, like, there's no it's one of
those medical fields where there's no real physical grounding, and
so it has all this this psychological stigma around it.
But for me, because nutrition became the physical paradigm that

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grounded this this field. For for our family, this thicking
was all gone. It's just it's no different than seeing
someone in a wheelchair with a broken arm. When we
see someone who's looney and off their rocker, like it's
it's a physical illness to us. And then so that's
sort of a breath of fresh air for a lot
of people for whom you know, neuroscience and psychiatry. Is

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this this mystery, this last frontier that nobody understands.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
M Yeah, And and again I completely agree that a
lot of times our brain activity, those those synapses, the
points from A to B that are happening sometimes that
we're there's just a missing link, a nutrient that's that's
gone are missing. Now the symptom that we're not getting
either in our diet or our bodies not absorbing it properly.

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So so when you mentioned these these broad spectrum micronutrients,
how can you explain that to our to our audience.
What is a broad spectrum micronutrient?

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Yeah, micronutrients would be micromeaning small, right, So they're the
nutrients that are just tiny and you need them in
relatively small amounts. You know, your body as many kilograms,
many pounds, and you need fats and proteins and carbohydrates
make up the bulk of it, but there's a small
portion of your weight. If you were to boil you
down and separate out the parts. Some of it is

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just elements, minerals. These are things you find on the
periodic periodic table chemists work with. They're fundamental building walks
of life. And then there's vitamins, which are small molecules
as well that are organic and only in living things.
And these minerals and vitamins are part of the micronutrients.
There are other micro nutrients too. There's essential proteins, the

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amino acids, and there's essential fats. But in our experience,
the bulk of the insufficiency that we're experiencing in our
current modern lifestyle, especially in North America, with ultra processed
foods and the way agriculture is these days, it seems
like the vitamin and mineral aspect of that, especially the minerals,

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actually is what is lacking. And there are a lot
of these, there are, and these these are essential nutrients,
all of these. There's a few essential fats, there's about
like three, and then there's well it's debated, science is advancing, right,
And then there's like eight or nine essential amino acids,

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so that's the protein and fat part. And then there's
like sixteen each, so way more essential vitamins and minerals.
And these are things your body can't make, and so
they're essentially you have to ingest them, and so if
they're not in their food, you just don't get them
and you're deficient. And and it's very unlikely that someone
if they're deficient, insufficient, or deficient in one of these,

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is not gonna be insufficient in others, because in food stuff,
the same mechanisms that would cause the food to be
depleted in one is likely to cause depletion of the others.
And so this is why the broad spectrum approach of
supplementation where instead of just giving one viamin or one
mineral or a combination of a few, but giving all
the essential ones and giving them all in an adequate,

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balanced way is really the innovation that my dad brought
to to human nutrition, at least in the realm of
mental health. It's not that multi vitamins didn't exist, it's
that at none of nobody did it as broadly and
as comprehensively at that and that appropriate dose is to
get the kind of results that adapted.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
And Dallan, we're coming up with a break, so I
want you to hold that thought. I want to come
back to this conversation right after this. You're listening to
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Are you waiting for shoes while it's the.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Money study? Welcome back to the Doctor Bob Martin, Joe,
I'm doctor Adam Brockman, and joining us today is Dallan
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All right, let's get back Todd's conversation with Dallen and you.

(23:17):
You may mentioned they're the of the word essentials, and
I want to I want to discuss that a little
bit more because that's that's really important for our listeners
to understand the like, say, for instance, we we got
the hearty nutritional daily essentials. When when we're using the
word essentials, what can we put that in lay Layman's
terms for for our audience to be like, okay, now

(23:38):
that makes sense. That's why we need to get these
nutrients and as far as supplementation goes, because we're just
not getting in our diet.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
Yeah, yeah, the the best way to describe the essentiality,
like there's some rules around essentiality. Scientifically, an essential nutrent
has to be something your body can't make, and it
has to so you have to ingest it. But it
has to be something your body needs and the mechanism
of that need are known, so that defines essentiality scientific
but practically essentiality is like your body just doesn't function

(24:08):
without these And the easiest way I like to think
about it as a biochemist is on the cellular levels.
Each cell and there's brillions of these in your new body.
Each one of these two is just a web of
interconnected metabolic activity. All of the substructures of the cell
have their own work that they need to do, and
each day it goes through this circadian rhythm of your

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wraps up for the day, starts doing the work of
the day, and then winds down. At the end. There's
there's garbage clean out at the end and all this
stuff that on a macro level level we see, you know, input, excretion,
all that stuff that the same thing happens at a
cellular level. And the workers that are doing this work,
they depend on these essential nutrients to do all that work.
And it's not just one there's a lot of different

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tasks going on so all the different nutrients are needed
many times over every single day to make energy, to
keep the lights on, to get the work done, to
run your cognitive cognitive capacities, especially taxing. Your brain is
about two to three percent of your body mass and
it uses twenty plus percent of your your energy every day.

(25:15):
And uh and yeah, that's that's the best way to
visualize for me as a biochemist. At least essentiality is
like you remove this and you I mean, at the extreme,
you die. But any level of insufficiency below an optimal
quantity of these is just less capacity for function. Less
capacity for function less capacity for function, your body will

(25:37):
triage and so you know it'll keep some you know,
your heart will keep beating. But maybe you've got depression,
you know, and that's that's your body prioritizing when it's
got a lack of capacity.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree with that, And that's
a that's a great, a great way to look at it.
Of course, you know, your your brain's using a lot
of energy in your in your body, so if if
there's something lacking, of course, there may be one of
those brain centers that's not functioning like it should. Because
you need the the those other nutrients to survive, so

(26:13):
your body gets in that fight and flight mode almost
and then so so maybe it's like, well, you know,
we're gonna we're gonna shut off our capacity to to
uh for clarity or brain fog or whatever that might
be while your while your body functions and makes up
for that lack of the essential nutrient. And our audience
is very health minded, health conscious and uh and and

(26:37):
really anything that we bring on the show has to
have some research behind it because because our audience wants
to be educated on how they can make their bodies better.
So so Dollan with that Hearty Nutritionals has a lot
of research backing behind some of these conditions we just
we just mentioned. But I want you, I want you

(26:58):
to explain just a little bit more about the research
component and and what Hardy's done as far as research
to research these micronutrients.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
Yeah, we're so blessed with the research setting that we
have because we haven't funded any of the studies. My
dad knew from animal nutrition you've gotta to sell the
big you know, ag operators on changing the feed regiment
for their animals, blending in some some micro nutrients to it.
It adds a little costs, so you have to show
that there's benefit on the backs. How you you basically

(27:29):
have to have studies to switch over a big bag
operation to change the way they run their feed and
so in humans, he he was like, why are people
just running off testimonials, Well, let's validate this. We're seeing
the results, so it should should test out. But independence
was was key. So they just knocked took case reports

(27:49):
basically collected you know, in a company setting, and went
and knocked on doors of universities trying to get research
to happen someone interested to pick it up, and and
then eventually that it was actually a research at the
closest university in southern Alberta TUIs the University of Westbridge
had And this is kind of the way it works.

(28:12):
Personal connection to someone whose life had been dramatically improved,
whose mental healths had been dramatically improved by this broad
spectrum micro MICRONUTRIENTT formula. And then you know it was him.
He wasn't in psychiatry research, he wasn't neuro neuroscience, but
him going to another university along with my dad and saying, look,

(28:32):
I can vouch for this case that they're bringing to you.
I've seen it. It's a family member, and and that uh,
you know, it got past the sort of snake oil
knee jerk reaction that that the academic researcher's had for
you know, these guys coming in and claiming really dramatic
results in a field where that's just not typical in

(28:54):
the way medicine currently you know, treated it. And so
so then it's just snowballed from there, researcher after researcher.
Often a grad student on one study will go when
they become a full fledged professor. It so impacted them
to see the effects of on the participants of the
study they were involved in as a graduate student. When
they become a full fledged professor and they get their

(29:15):
own grant funding and whatnot, they pick up the same
formula and they start studying it as well, and it's
just snowballed like that, where through four generations of researchers
now going on five generation in that sense, where a
grad student goes on to study at one maybe become
a full professor, and it's all independently funded, so just
from private organizations and government grants. The way academic research

(29:36):
is always done, and the quality of research has improved
from just looking at cases to looking at larger cohorts
to randomize controlled experimental trials, the gold standard of medicine.
And it's spread. It has spread across you know, kind
of following the funding in the at first bipolar researchers
getting funded in the early two thousands, and then it
switched to a lot of the you know, the NIH

(29:58):
started putting money towards ADHDC last decade, a lot of adhdcs.
So we've got a lot of studies on ADHD. But
the research has spread across all kinds of aspects of
psychiaedri and even subclinically to like natural disasters where people
are just going through stressful situations. And this would be
applicable to the average person who just has difficulties in
their life. Maybe they like you're talking about brain fog

(30:20):
or underfunctioning, their lack of energy, that kind of setting.
And it's been researched in that at lower doses, you know,
so very doses have been researched for various UH settings
or populations in different scenarios, and it's so it's showing
benefits across the board. That are statisically significant on standardized
outcome measures that are that are like you just can't

(30:44):
dispute you. We're using standard psychiatric measures and other measures.
Measures of sleep have improved the best measures actually, but
in the studies where they be taken are measures of
overall function.

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Speaker 4 (35:25):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Uh with with my son who has ADHD, and I
noticed the I noticed improvement within within a week. Is
is this typical of what you are hearing with?

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (35:38):
With the testimonials and of course you got the clinical
studies behind it too.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
Yeah, so a week is pretty fast. Usually it's like
three weeks that people will start noticing a difference. Sometimes
people around them, you know, there's this phenomenon where the
person themselves, they live with themselves day to day, and
so from day to day they don't know as much difference.
But for a third party observerly, parent or you know,
they'll notice improvement sooner. But within three weeks, good responders

(36:05):
will be will notice something and that improvement continues. In
the ADHD research studies, the study phase is usually eight
to ten weeks in the studies that have been on
D trance, that's the case, and there's ongoing improvement through
that time. So in a week you notice the difference.
Some people do notice that fast. Some people know that

(36:26):
will notice within a day.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
That's very rare.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
But within three weeks, if someone's going to be a responder,
usually they start seeing something and then within eight to
ten weeks there's a significant response. In the ADHD studies,
it was fifty percent of the kids about that and
adults actually in adult ADHDU, but it's about fifty percent
within eight to ten weeks that will notice significant much

(36:49):
or very much improved is the actual outcome in the studies.
And then they've done follow up on these in cohorts,
just naturalistic follow up. So there's kind of two ways
to follow it. One is, after the study phase they
let the people who were on placebo it didn't get
a real treatment, right, they let them have the same
duration of the real thing. So then so in an

(37:10):
eight to ten week study you go double that time
again where everyone gets it and they see they've published
the data from this phase of the study, and in
each case you see this placeiber group which is doing
much more poorly than the active by the innovator ten weeks,
and then when they switch to everyone taking the micro nutrients,
then suddenly the placebo group over the next eight to

(37:30):
ten weeks comes up and there's a sharp inflection point,
a sharp change in the trajectory of their symptoms and
they're overall functioning. Where they come up and they start
doing as well as the others. And then they've you know,
at the at that point, at the end of that point,
they have to start paying for the supplement because they're
out of the study. And then they've done analysis at

(37:51):
one year and what and compared hey, people who stayed
on micronutrients, and compare them with people who just stopped
them but didn't do anything else, and then compared them
to another cohort who stopped them and switched to medications.
And at one year they can show not only improvements

(38:12):
from end of study, but doing better in terms of
remission rates and quality of life and functioning then those
who switch to other things or just stopped altogether doing
any intervention. And so like, the data on ADHD is
really solid. It's really I'm really happy to hear that
your your son had such a quick response. That's pretty quick,

(38:33):
but it's not it's not super unusual to hear it.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
You know.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
The people who volunteer testimonials are usually people who've seen
something pretty dramatic, so we share this quite a bit.
But for the average person it's usually like three years.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, And I do want to say anytime that you're
you're trying a new routine, a new a new supplement,
even a new diet. I suggested going at least eight
weeks before before making any any sudden changes to that
because you you have to you have to see see
the results. Of course, you know, with with us, we're
obviously looking looking for changes, seeing improvements, and uh in

(39:06):
making tweaks as we go, which which is which is
perfectly fine. But any any new supplements or any any
new routines, uh, eight weeks I would I would say
would be a minimum uh to to do that before
before changing it up too much. But you know, I
want to I want to talk about some of these
other conditions too, like like say, for instance, just the
the the stress and anxiety or depression. H you know,

(39:28):
how does that how does that change the mindset in
the in the body.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
Yeah, so with with stress and anxiety like in the
Actually the some of the earthquake studies are interesting. So
there's researcher studying ADHD and the in New Zealand and
the earthquake in the middle of the study. So she
quickly took the like a control group of just healthy

(39:56):
people and so these didn't have ADHD control arm And
she said recruited those and said, all right, a lot
of these people had their you know, their home to collapse.
They were displaced, you know, family members have been injured
or whatever, and their lives are really disrupted. And so
she just a lower dose than the clinical dose that
she would use for DHD. She said, well, let's study
this in this setting and just just a month during

(40:20):
the displacement period, during the most stressful time. A month
of supplementation. Not only did the broad spectrum micro nutrients
help with their stress and anxiety significantly during that time
relative to placebo, but that it also a year later

(40:40):
without supplementing it. It was just supplemented during giving the
body extra resources, extra central nutriments during that stressful period.
A year later, they had less PTSD.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Okay, Dell, we gotta take a quick break. We'll be
right back on the Doctor Bob Martin Show.

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Welcome back to the Doctor Bob Barton Show. I'm doctor
Adam Barrockman, and we've reached the end of this hour
of the show, and uh I want to give a
thank you to Dallan for joining us for the entire
hour and giving some insight on the daily essential nutrients
by Hearty Nutritionals Dllan. You mentioned the energy production of

(43:30):
micronutrients in the body. I want you to expand on
that just just for a couple of.

Speaker 5 (43:34):
Minutes, and that's you know, one of the machinisitions as
a biochemist, that's really really at play here is mitochondrial
function condria, or the energy producers of the salon. And
in almost every psychiatric disorder, mitochondrial dysfunction has been shown

(43:54):
and mitochondrial demand, it might condra produce energy. Energy is
foundational to doing anything else. If you don't have energy,
you can't can't do anything. And each cell has to
run all its processes with energy that the mitochondria makes,
and the mitochondria is known to require every single essential

(44:15):
vitamin and mineral two function to produce the energy for
the sell and so there's nothing really except broad spectrum
micro nutriment supplementation or input that can truly resolve mitochondrial
dysfunction present for that.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
And when you mentioned there, it's the cellular energy. But
also that you've also noticed, uh, you know, improved sleep
in that better energy with with a supplementation of the
daily essentials. Can you expand on that just a just
a we only got just got a few minutes.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
Left, and already it almost seems paradoxical, right, you get
more energy, but you also sleep better. But you see
the opposite opposite of this with sleep drugs. You see
people using them to sleep, and then they're groggy throughout
the day, right and they have less energy. So you
but when you when you give the body what it needs,
it can it can feel. So you get these mitochondria
working well during the day and then they can convert

(45:10):
at the end of the day all the neuro transmitters
and other things that your body needs to change to
prepare for sleep. There's a whole process that your body
goes through to naturally prepare for sleep. If it has
the energy that it needs during the day, it can
make those changes at the cellular level as the day closes,
and this is the end of the day, so if
there's any if there's any sleep is interesting because if
there's anything that you know, the body doesn't have enough

(45:33):
energy for, it's going to show up at the end
of the day when you've when you've consumed a lot
of resources. And so these extra nutrients especially help the
body just get through the last of the day and
finish off the physiological processes that prepare for sleep and
prepare your body to have the different setting of neurotransmission

(45:53):
and hormones and everything that that allows for sleep. And
so people in multiple studies, we've seen sleep and moved
with this broad spectrum supplementation and energy improve as well
outcome measures in the same study showing both of those
things and so, but it makes sense from a biochemical standpoint.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, absolutely, Dllan and Dallan, we've already reached the end
of the hour of the show and I really appreciate
you joining and bringing that insight. Again, we've been talking
with Dallan Hardy of Hearty Nutritionals and and so Dollan again,
thank you and on behalf of Doctor Bob, thank you
for being part of today's show. And again, folks, I
want you to keep those questions coming, keep sharing what

(46:35):
you learn, and most importantly, keep believing in your ability
to thrive. So until next time, this is doctor Adam
Broffman for the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
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