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May 10, 2026 40 mins
This week on Health Talk America presents “The Dr. Bob Martin Show”, Dr. Adam Brockman opens with breaking news that has rocked the medical establishment — the Department of Justice has indicted Dr. David Morens, long-time senior advisor to Dr. Anthony Fauci, on charges of obstructing transparency and concealing federal records. What does this mean for the public’s trust, the integrity of science, and the future of health freedom? Dr. Bob Martin joins Dr. Brockman for a charged hour unraveling how secrecy within America’s top health agencies birthed an era of fear, dependency, and the “Subscription Model” of medicine that profits from keeping people sick. Together, they’ll expose how these revelations could mark a turning point — from a culture of compliance back to one of empowerment, transparency, and natural sovereignty over one’s own health.

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Speaker 3 (01:02):
Welcome to a high voltage hour of health talk America
presents the Doctor Bob Martin Show. I'm doctor Adam Brockman,
and I am thrilled to be your navigator today as
we steer through the murky waters of modern science, modern medicine,
and political theater, and joining me in the co pilot
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the guy who has been the voice of health freedom
for decades.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Doctor Bob Martin. How are you doing today, Doctor Bob.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
I'm doing really well. Dr Brockman, I trust you are,
and I certainly hope that our audience is healthy and happy.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Great, great, well, doctor Bob.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
It's good to have you here because today the conspiracy
theories just became federal indictments and I've got to get
your opinion on this. But before we dive into the
deep end, I want to make sure that the listeners.

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Speaker 4 (02:39):
Doctor Bob.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
We've probably said this before that sunlight is the best disinfectant.
But apparently inside the high walled corridors of where doctor
Fauci's office once lied, they preferred to work in the
pitch black of secret codes in burner Gmail accounts.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
So here we have it.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
We have staggering breaking news to kick off the show.
For years, we've been told to follow the science, truss
the science, but it turns out the people that were
leading the charts were actually busy following instructions on how
to make that paper trail disappear. So this Department of
Justice has finally and officially indicted doctor David Morns. Now,

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for those of you who don't spend your weekends reading
through the federal charts, Morens wasn't some type of low
level staffer. He was the senior advisor in the right
hand man to doctor Anthony Fauci. He sat in the
inner sanctum, and he has just been slapped with three

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felony accounts for allegedly concealing federal records during the pandemic.
So we're talking about a systemic an effort to dodge
what is the Freedom of Information Act? And these were
requests by using private Gmail accounts, And I want you
to get this. These secret codes were to communicate about

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the origins of COVID nineteen and the controversial funding of
the Wuhan Institute.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
So I want to just say this.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
One email for Morns literally said this, and this is
quote I learned from our FOIA. This is a federal
of the Freedom of Information Act. Lady hear how to
make these emails disappear after I am a deed before
the search starts end quote. So I want you to

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think about that for a second. We're not talking about
a clerical error. It's not shredding the evidence. This is
while we were on lockdown. It just misinformation across the board.
So I want to go ahead and play this audio
clip from the New York Post about the Department of
Justice announcement to hear exactly how deep this rabbit hole

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is going to go.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
The Department of.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
Justice has disched out a shocking indictment accusing a former
senior advisor to doctor Anthony Fauci for allegedly concealing records
amid probes into the origins of the COVID nineteen pandemic.
Seventy eight year old David Morens has been charged with
conspiracy against the United States, destruction, alteration or falsification of
records in federal investigations, concealment, removal or mutilation of records,

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and aiding and abetting. The indictment, which was unsealed on
April twenty seventh in Maryland Federal Court, also lists two
unnamed co conspirators who quote concealed, removed, destroyed, and cause
the concealment and removal of federal records to evade the
Freedom of Information Act and the Federal Records Act. According
to communications first exposed by The Post in May twenty

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twenty four, Moreans, who served as a senior advisor to
Fauci from two thousand and six to twenty twenty two,
conducted official government business from a private email account and
asked the National Institute of Health's FOYA liaison for tips
on how to evade records requests. In an email from
February twenty twenty one, Morans wrote, I learned from our
Foya lady here how to make emails disappear after I

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am foyed, but before the search starts. He later went
on to write that he quote deleted most of those
earlier emails after sending them to Gmail. Two months later.
In April twenty twenty one, Morans also wrote, there is
no worry about Foya's I can either send stuff to
Tony on his private Gmail or handed to him at
work or at his house. He is too smart to

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let colleagues send him stuff that could cause trouble. In
September twenty twenty one, Morens wrote that he would quote
always communicate on Gmail because my NIH email is foyad
constantly and quote delete anything I don't want to see.
In The New York Times, Morans oversaw a now infamous
grant from the NIH to the Manhattan based nonprofit EcoHealth
Alliance beginning in twenty fourteen that ended up funneling US

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taxpayer dollars to the Wuhan Institute of Virology for coronavirus research.
Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche said that the allegations represented
a quote profound abuse of trust, as alleged in the indictment,
doctor Morens and his co conspirators deliberately concealed information and
falsified records in an effort to suppress alternative theories regarding

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the origins of COVID nineteen. Government officials have a solemn
duty to provide honest, well grounded facts and advice in
service of the public interest, not to advance their own
personal or ideological agendas.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
If that doesn't make the hair on the back of
your next stand up, I don't know what will. So
doctor Bob, im go ahead and let you You start.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
With this, okay, Well, let's start with this. Earlier in
the announcement before we started the audio tape there, you
mentioned the word loud. I would add to that loud
and proud, because we were all over this from the
very beginning. Dr Brockman I interviewed doctor Judy Mikovitz, who

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was a PhD. She worked with doctor Fauci at NIH
the National Institutes of Health, and she warned our audience
about him because he was lying about masks. She wrote
a book about masks. Masks don't work. I mean, if
they worked, we would have them on every flu season.
You've never seen them recommended during flu season. And tel

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what until COVID, until the big control experiment occurred, so
I was already suspicious of it. This very topic caused
my Facebook page to be deplatformed, basically for speaking out
against this. I knew that Fauci and his minions were

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lying because of masks, and because the fact that you
can't stop viruses through masks and the six feet you
know thing, and then the stores and the restaurants and
the things you had to do to get on cruise
ships and every single thing that went out. I knew
there was something wrong, and we spoke out about it

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on this radio show. Thank goodness, our affiliate radio stations understood.
They knew it was talk radio, they knew it was
opinion oriented. But the social media platform Facebook said, now
we've got a vested interest in this information not getting out,
so we're just going to take you out. And they did,

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and I'm glad they actually did, because now I'm done
with them. So you know, I have to say that
this doctor Morins, who's a medical doctor, Yeah, you're right,
he was the stooge and the flunky that Fauci used
as a shield a yes man. But they're both as
guilty as anything and you know, as this thing was evolving,

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doctor Bruckman, as many people probably thought, you know, eventually
the truth will come out. Well, it's finally coming out.
It's finally getting that daylight that it needs, that like
you mentioned, the sunshine that it needs. And you know this,
these guys have taken a playbook right out of the CDC.
When they also falsified records about autism and children, when

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they also falsified records about you know, childhood vaccines being
thoroughly studied. We know they haven't been, and now they're
making an effort to do just that. So these kinds
of things will come full circle, and we're glad that
they do.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, and doctor Bob, you know, there's there's a lot
a lot more to say on the topic. We got
we got to take a quick break, and we want
to come back in. I want I want to talk
about this a little bit more, you know, I want
to I want to talk about what what you and
I have both said as the subscription model of medicine.
But and folks, I want you to stick around this
entire hour. We're going to get to some of your

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questions and in comments as well. Later in the hour,
but we do got to take a take a short
break when we come back. When you get right back
into it, you're listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Welcome back.

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Speaker 4 (11:39):
And uh.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Before the break, Doctor Bob, we were we were talking
about we played the audio clip from the New York
New York Post. I was talking about the indictment on
doctor David Morin's and and you said, you know, through
the through the years when you spoke out, you've been
basically the Facebook page was taken a take and down.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
And what there was there's quite a few followers on there.
So so again I.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Do want to say this too, if folks you know
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But but Doctor Bob, I want to I want to
talk more about this this topic because you see, you
know the listeners. This is this isn't a story about
a guy named doctor David Morins and a bunch of
deleted emails. This is another one of those windows into
that subscription model of medicine. And and so this indictment,
it's it's a smoking gun that proves that the bureaucracy

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was more interested in protecting this narrative and that is
that the the profits that were attached to it, and
that was more than so and more important than protecting
your health. So why would would they need to hide
these emails? Why would they need this lady in this
Freedom of Information Act, this lady here that he talks about,

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teach them how to vanish into these digital shadows. So
it's simple because the truth about natural immunity was a
direct threat to.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
This bottom line.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
So if they had to admit that your own God
given immune system, that original technology was almost ninety percent
more effective than a forced pharmaceutical and invention that they
had forced on us for many populations, this subscription model
of medicine would have crumbled overnight. So because you know,

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a doctor, Bob, you can't patent vitamin D, you can't
put a monthly reoccurring charge on zinc, and you can't
sell a booster subscription to a person who who knows
how to maintain their own own health sovereignly.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
Well, doctor Brockolan, it's the same theme that we've seen
for years in mainstream conventional medicine where women were discouraged
to breastfeed. Why because that's how you prime the immune
system of the child and get the immune system of
that baby going so that it's self sufficient and it
doesn't get sick as often. And doctors basically over the years,

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things are changing, thank goodness now. But when I was
in school way back, when doctors were convincing women that
God made a mistake by not putting Similac in the
breast of a woman, I mean, it was so bad
and so this is just an extension of that, a
remnant of this. It's really all about control. If you

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can cause people to be in fear constantly and you
can control them, they will become your sheeple and they
will take those shots. Every single time you tell them,
they'll go get another shot, and another one, another one.
Now we're finding out, of course, not only was this
infection originated in this lab that was funded by our government,

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the NIH, the National Institutes of Health, and driven by
doctor Fauci and his minions. We know that these diseases
that are coming from COVID, the shots, the spike proteins
that went into millions of people's bodies are still there.
We're now seeing, of course, a spike in cancers across

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the board. We know that it causes an increase in
the risk of heart disease. We know that autoimmune's diseases
are up, and much of it can be linked back
to the fact that people were convinced that their government
had the answer and it really was just a maniacal

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individual by the name of Fauci, and all the money
trail that we're still uncovering and will come out Big Pharma,
big pharma driving this follow the money trail, folks. It
happens every time, and here we are once again. Hopefully
this time we'll learn something from it and put the
safeguard rails in there to stop it from happening ever

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ever again.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
And doctor Bob, you know we say this on the show.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
We're living in the US, and in our country now,
we're sixty percent of the adults have at least one
chronic condition. So exactly what you said there about about this,
the COVID disaster that's in place all around it, the
increase in cancer, the increase in sickness. So we're spending

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trillions of dollars on healthcare and that's nearly nearly, what
is it, twenty percent of our entire gross to messic product,
and yet we are sicker, more tired, and more medicated
than ever. And that's not by an accident. That's a
business plan. So under the guidance the ni AI D,

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under the guidance of these now indicted individuals, they push
this singular narrative that ignored that eighty percent of healthcare
outcomes are actually driven by lifestyle and nutrition and environmental factors.
So instead they sold us the subscription in the form
of COVID shots. You know, you need it every whatever

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it was six months a year, I don't know, you
can tell me, right, So, so the subscription to fear,
a subscription to mask in, a subscription to an endless
cycle of boosters that, as we now see, we're discussed
in the emails that they're trying to delete or that
they have deleted. So this lack of transparency at the

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highest levels of the NIH it's a betrayal of the
public trust that it's almost impossible to quantify. When they
suppress this on natural immunity that's been done for decades.
They weren't following the science. They were gatekeeping the truth

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to ensure that there was no exit ramp from from
this pharmaceutical highway if you if you will, doctor Bob.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
Yeah, that's pretty much the long and the short of it.
It's it's really sad, doctor Brockman. You know, you get
you almost become cynical, and it's it's one of those
things I've always said, I love my country, I distrust
my government, and this is the uh, you know, the
epitome of what has happened. And hopefully this is going
to wake a lot of people up, and we can

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put in those safeguards to ensure that this will never
happen again. You know, the professions of nature, apathy, chiropractic, homeopathy,
functional medicine doctors doos mds have been warning about this
for decades. Decades. They have been saying, look, there's something
wrong here. We did not do these kinds of vaccine skills,

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you know, twenty thirty, forty fifty years ago, and we
were not any better off today with eighty some childhood
vaccines and we had five back in the nineteen sixties
when I was growing up, when we actually got measles
and mumps and chicken pox and developed natural immunity and
went on to be healthier than the kids are today

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with all these shots in them and ending up with
all these autoimmune diseases, more asthma, more psoriasis, more egzema,
you name it. Kids are sicker today with the modern
medical care that they have, and the parents have been
bullied into getting it. Doctor Brockman.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, And so where does that leave you, the listener?
I think it leaves you in the driver's seat at
this point, if you're willing to grab that wheel, because
we know eighty percent of the COVID nineteen hospitalizations that
all these patients had a vitamin D deficiency. So if
you think about that statistic, if if they had spent

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ten of the energy they used hiding their emails, their
their gmails on promoting vitamin D, how many lives could
have been saved. But again, vitamin D is cheap, it's accessible,
and it doesn't require a patent. So so so so
there there you have it. It's a it's one of
those those situations that we've all been in the last

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few years.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
How do we correct it.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Let's get back to the Let's get back to the basics,
you know, vitamin vitamin D, sunshine, the things, good food,
the things that really matter and so so, folks, again,
we got we gotta take a short break.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
We're just getting started on this hour.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
When we come back from break, Doctor Bob and I
were going to dive into your questions. You're listening to
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Speaker 6 (21:00):
Are you waiting for the writing excuse?

Speaker 5 (21:03):
Are you waiting for signs?

Speaker 2 (21:06):
While you waiting its time.

Speaker 6 (21:09):
Money say.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Welcome back doctor Adam Brackman here, And you're tuned into
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the to the phone lines and get to a question

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from Mary in Denver, Colorado.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Hi, my name is Mary. What I'm calling about is
number one on the radio station that you're on out
of Johnstown, Colorado. I live in Denver Metro area, Colorado.
Your programs are cut off because they cut into their advertisements.

(22:30):
So I thought you ought to know that because sometimes
I can't get the information of Usually you have that
information about who to call of the product that you're
advertising during the program, So I urge that you do
that continually and kind of fade away at the end
of your at the end of whatever the time limit

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is before the station cuts cuts you off. So I'm
mentioning that, and I'm mentioning also that I looked up
Radiance Greens R A D I A n C E
greens dot com and and then I put an E
n C E for Radiance and I couldn't get it.

(23:12):
So you need to spell out the websites of what
you want to advertise, because I can't get it. I
don't know where I'm going to find it. So the
other thing is I hope you also talk about the
danger of of of cocaine, because Biden's a wife and

(23:36):
Joe Biden are serious heavy cocaine users. So if you're
going to bring up the president using aspertains the current
one who on the day before there was an attempt
on his life, and that's not political, it doesn't read
write okay. So I do listen to your program, but

(23:59):
I find that you are, you know, well, what you
did today, I'm just really you know, to say he's
got brain fog essentially, is what you said when Biden
was totally incompetent as if and he had this auto
pen that signed things. So I hope you talk about
his cocaine addiction. Okay, Biden's cocaine addiction. Trump doesn't drink

(24:23):
or smoke okay, liquor okay. So I just think that
it showed your political bias. Okay. So I think you
do a fairly decent job in your program, but very
disappointed in what you did. Just slam Trump today.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Okay, doctor Bob, you want to you want to start
that one off?

Speaker 5 (24:50):
I will Mary thank you for your phone call. I
feel like I got left handed slaps through that whole thing.
But other than that, I you know, we take phone
calls and we're never going to stop. Whether they be
positive or negative, we're going to play them here on
the show. But let's begin with this. I think i'd
like to go back to what she said. The accusation

(25:12):
is that we said or claimed that President Trump is
suffering from brain fog that never happened. What we were
talking about with respect to the conversation had to do
with his consumption of aspartame or nutri suite, which scientific
studies have shown that it causes all kinds of problems.
We didn't say that it affected him directly. Don't know

(25:34):
that for sure. Maybe it does, maybe it does not,
But we do know that it can cause all kinds
of disruption in the neurons of the brain. All you
have to do is read doctor Blaylock's book. He's a
neurologist wrote a book on called excitotoxins where he talks
about how aspartame or nutrore suite causes the brain to
kind of go offline and do all kinds of funny things. So, Mary,

(25:58):
you might want to go back and listen to that,
and with respect to our prejudice towards any particular political party,
that is absolutely false. In fact, that means that you
may not have been listening to the show in the
past where I talked about President Biden and his loss
of memory, suspected of having dementia. We talked about it
on the show extensively. I've talked out about in the

(26:21):
past President Obama his smoking habit and some other health
issues he had. I've talked about Clinton's. President Clinton in
the past used to promote donuts, eating donuts. I've discussed that.
So this show does not gravitate to or try to
convince people to vote in any particular way. Yes, we

(26:43):
discuss the health of the movers and the shakers in
our society, particularly political people who have an effect on
all of us, and we will comment on those and
we will continue to comment on that. But I understand
that it rubbed you the wrong way, Mary, to just
hear anything come out of us that may have implied,

(27:03):
implicitly or explicitly that President Donald Trump has some kind
of a brain fog. But I think you took it
just a little bit too far, and assuming that we
said that when we really didn't. And you also don't
believe that we talk about other political people, democrats particularly,
and that's untrue. We do, we have and we will

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continue to.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah, and doctor Bob, I think it was it was
probably about a year ago that that we did a
segment that you led on on on President Biden at
the time talking about his his ice cream habit and
uh and so uh so his ice cream addiction if
you if you will, and the uh and so so
for comparing uh the diet, coke and ice cream. Let's

(27:50):
put it in the in the in the same category
in the sense of moderation is the key. And when
I say moderation, I'm not talking about one diet coked
day or one cup of ice creaming day. I'm talking
about that as as maybe a treat, and we don't
necessarily discourage that if that's if that's once a week
or once every two weeks, once a month, whatever that is.

(28:12):
But but habits are that are those daily things. So
what it said President Trump uh has has eight to
twelve soft drinks a day, that's a that's a pretty
significant habit.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Likewise, I think most of the the more.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Recent pictures we saw of President Biden was with a
with an ice cream cone or a cup in his hand.
So again those are those are habits that's not moderation.
So that's what we try to We try to give
you indications and clues how to how to nourish your
body properly and live long and healthy without things like
brain fog as long as you can. So to address

(28:49):
that broader concern about the political bias we in we
in no sense or any way have any political bias.
We are just giving you that information of about objective
health education. So if the if a public figures habits
their diet their health, it becomes newsworthy.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
We're we're going to talk.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
About it on the show, and uh, and to talk
about some of the other information that you you inquired
about the the Radiant Greens. We do give the phone
number and website periodically throughout the show, and I'll give
the Radiant Greens website right now. That is Radiant Greens
dot com. That's r A d i a n T

(29:31):
Greens dot com. R A d i a n t
Greens dot com. All right, So, so Mary again, thanks
for your thanks for your call, your.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Your question, your comment.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Uh, it's it's you and listeners like you that that
helped to keep the show accountable and sometimes we don't
have any problem explaining ourselves. Again, folks, we're gonna come
back with more of your questions. You're listening to the
Doctor Bob Martin Show.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
Numba sign.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Welcome back, Doctor Adam Brockman here as we return to
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All right, let's get back into our caller questions, doctor Bob.

(31:06):
And next up we have a question from Evelin and
she is asking about supplement recommendations for gout to avoid
coal cry't side effects.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
And you want to go ahead and start, doctor Bob.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
And what was her name in doctor Brocklund, Evelin Eveland. Okay,
all right, Eveland, thank you for the effort in sending
your email to us. Let's start with gout and the
issue with gout it has to do with blue blood.
You must have royalty in your background. When I say
that there may have been a prince or a princess

(31:43):
or somebody a queen in your background and your bloodline,
you may want to check that those DNA tests because
we look at history and we see that people who
get gout are usually the wealthy people in the past,
meaning that let's say in England, who got gout, who
has the heart disease more often, who had more diabetes,
the kings, queens and those people who could afford to

(32:06):
eat the luxury foods of mostly sugar and high meat content.
So if you take away that from the American diet,
the standard American diet, which is mostly junk food, processed
ultra processed foods, which are high in carbohydrates, and excessive
amounts of red meat, you would have gout virtually disappear.

(32:30):
So you got blue blood to reverse that. You get
rid of the sugar that's the major issue in gout,
as it is with purine foods. You're not able to
handle that, and so we do that, We clean that up,
we increase water, and then we use the supplements to

(32:51):
help reduce it. And the biggest supplement I've ever used
is sell Receed extract for gout. It is highly high
hily effective and in addition to that, because it neutralizes
the gout, we also use curcumin as the anti inflammatory
to help the gout and a combination of those approaches.

(33:13):
Doctor Brockman, I mean you're talking about ninety of the
high ninety some percent of people with gout never have
another gout attack.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah, and this is a this is an important question.
So so even when we definitely appreciate you writing in
on this topic and you know, to find some natural
support for gout while avoiding those side effects of coal cries,
that's a that's a goal I would say that is
shared by many. So if we're if we're looking at

(33:43):
this the perspective again, just explain gout. It occurs when
those yuric acid crystals they accumulate in the joints, and
that's a that's more commonly, like doctor Bob mentioned the
big big toe that causes a very sharp, severe pain,
sudden pain, redness, and swelling. So so the main issue
isn't just the uric acid production, but it's the body's

(34:06):
inability to clear it efficiently. And while col crie works
by by calming that that inflammatory response, it's notorious for
the side effects like nausea, diarrhea, uh, even even muscle
weakness if it's used long term. So doing a natural
approach that that focuses on on reducing that uric acid,

(34:29):
improving that that clearance of uric acid and in controlling
that inflammation. So the question is how do we do
it naturally? Of course Doctor Bob gave some great recommendations. Uh,
but again I want to reinforce to calm that inflammation,
things like like bromline uh you know, uh, the omega threes,

(34:49):
these are all important things to do that.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Uh Uh.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Doctor Bob mentioned kerkcumin. That's a great option. And then
the the key to to preventing those gout flair SUPs
lies in helping the kidneys excrete uric acid efficiently. So
how do you do that? Doctor Bob mentioned celery seed extract,
but I also want to throw in here tart cherry
cherry extract. It's one of the most well documented natural

(35:17):
gout supports. Cherries contain lots of antioxidants that help to
lower that uric acid load in the body and reduces
that flare up frequency. Then we look at things like
vitamin C in magnesium citrate. Magnesium helps neutralize those yuric

(35:37):
acid crystals and it helps to improve the body's pH
balance and also supports kidney filtration. But again, we need
to get back to to focus on some of the
anti inflammatory lifestyle. So focus on areas of hydration in
reducing the purines in the diet. So when I say this,

(35:59):
I'm talking about limiting organ meats or shellfish, alcohol, especially beer,
and increase your diet in plant based, plant based ingredients
like greens, nuts, whole grains that help support that natural
pH balance as well. And also to maintain a healthy

(36:19):
healthy weight. Even modest weight loss improves that uric acid
clearance and then that joint resilience with with it. And
and here's an important one that doesn't get talked about often,
and that's avoiding fruit toase like soft drinks and fruit
juices that they're sweeten with high fruittase, corn syrup. That
that increases and it actually really increases that uric acid levels.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
So, Evelyn, the mission is not just that symptom control.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
It's it's reclaiming that metabolic balance, all right. So so again,
doctor Bob, we got to take a short break.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
When we come back, we'll go ahead and hit that
home stretch.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
You're listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show and give practice.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
Welcome back.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
You're listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show, and I'm
doctor Adam Brockman, and as we're bringing this show to
a close this hour. I want to take a moment
and express uh thanks and gratitude to each and every
one of you that's tuning in and being part of
the Doctor Bob Martin Show community.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
And Doctor Bob you know, we've been talking.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
We opened the show talking about the federal indictments that
have came down from the Department of Justice, uh in
dealing with doctor Fauci and his and his crew. So
since COVID, you know, we've been playing this this high
stakes game where the referee is actively burning the rule
book while the clock is still running. And then then
so now we're getting this this news of the Department

(37:52):
of Justice indictment of doctor David Morin's and so so
for those the listeners that have have joined us. Since
since we were talking about this on the Doctor Bob
Martin Show, we've been peeling back the curtain on what
I call subscription model of medicine, and folks, this view
behind the curtain is staggering. We've got We've spent a

(38:13):
better part of this hour dissecting the fallout from these
missing emails and alleged concealment of the data at the
highest levels of the NIH And it's not just about
a few lost emails or messages. It's about this fundamental
breach of trust that has left millions of Americans wondering
if their health was ever really a priority and if

(38:36):
we were simply viewed as recurring revenue on a corporate
balance sheet that the government's been controlling.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
And doctor Bob, I want to get your final thoughts
on this, Well.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
It really boils down to the basics once again, and
that is, you know, taking control of one's own health.
Like we have said for decades on this show, you must,
you must become your own best doc. Most of the time. Yes,
we have to have a sick care system in place
for emergency care nine to one pint one accidents that occur.

(39:10):
You know that sort of you know care is necessary
in our country. However, more people rely on it that
really need to be taking charge of their own help
their own health by sleeping well, exercising well, eating well,
lowering their levels of stress, and associating themselves. Doctor Brocklan

(39:31):
with not just sick care practitioners, people who are going
to manage their chronic diseases, and while they're getting their
diseases are managing it and allowing them to get their
disease in the first place, but rather expand their circle
of health practitioners in the area of healthcare. What are those?
These are doctors who actually get out in front of

(39:51):
these things and help teach people and provide care for
people so that they don't get sick in the first place.
We're now talking about chiropractic physicians, pathic physicians, homeopathic physicians,
and doctors of medicine who branch out of sick care
into healthcare by studying postgraduate in areas of functional medicine

(40:13):
and holistic care and these kinds of things that allow
them to access how to save their patients from getting
these illnesses in the first place, rather than taking the
approach of waiting until they break before they go about
fixing it.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Absolutely, And as we're wrapping up this first hour, this
is doctor Adam Brockman for the incredible Doctor Bob Martin.
You've been listening to Health Talk America presents the Doctor
Bob Martin Show, and I want you to hold the line,
stay sovereign, and keep your guard up.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
The best is yet to come.
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