September 19, 2025 • 55 mins
The NBA just changed the rulebook: failed end-of-period heaves no longer count against a player’s shooting stats — but is this protecting stars or hurting the game? We dive into the history of the league’s greatest (and worst) heave-takers, from Curry’s magic touch to Kobe’s one lonely make. Then we unravel the latest twists in the Kawhi Leonard scandal, where endorsement money, ownership ties, and injury timelines raise serious questions for the Clippers. Plus, the Knicks quietly add Malcolm Brogdon while the Spurs launch a pricey new fan section for Wemby Nation. Guest host Chase Bunker joins us to break down who’s ballin’, who’s fallin’, and who’s just letting the shot clock expire.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Drive and Dish podcast Drive.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome to to start it off, and.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I think this might be the first time I promised
Kevin that I would record an episode with him out
in at least the last two years, and I'm actually
executing it. There have been multiple times where Kevin's busy
doing something and I'm like, yeah, I got you, and
it gets back from vacation and he's like, hey, how'd
it go, and I'm like, oh, right, I was supposed
(00:39):
to do that. Uh So, Kevin, You're welcome. You know,
sometimes the clutch player got to come in clutch, and
that's what I'm doing right now, and Chase in this
case is the clutch player. Thank you Chase for joining
us today. We are going to be talking a lot
of a little bit of NBA news in the fact
that we're we're changing some rules. The Kawhi stuff still
(01:03):
kind of lingering out there, and the Knicks are seemingly
doing what everybody wants them to do in a way
that they don't want them to do it, and so
that's how we'll go about this. So you know, we're
gonna warm up with the new rule change. The NBA
is going to implement, and it's starting in the twenty
five twenty six season, so it's like pretty much starting immediately.
(01:26):
Unsuccessful end of period heaves will now be recorded as
a missed field goal attempt for the team and not
the player. This is reported by ESPN. Those big heaves,
half court heaves, whatever you want to call them, I
know from Driving Dish podcast past there's one, and I
don't necessarily know if it counts as a heave, but
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there's one Blake Griffin did against the Suns that was
always a big talking point for us because of Tim's
love for the Suns. But this rule obviously comes out
and protects the individual player stats, which rubs me the
wrong way. But we can get into that a little bit.
It risks creating sub skewed analytics, you know, especially with
(02:08):
in players past who didn't have this perk. Obviously, the
first person everybody kind of goes and talks about is
step Curry, who has just taking monstrous threes. If you
were to retroactively apply this new rule to his career,
he would go from only a forty two point three
percent shooter to a forty two point eight percent shooter.
So shout out to him for still being that amazing
(02:29):
at three point volume. But h but it just kind
of shows it's not like a massive impact. So Chase,
I want to get your thoughts on it. I didn't
really think this was the thing that that players really
wanted to change. It it changed, or a thing that
needed to be a topic of discussion.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
It's I mean, I'm glad that there is the rule
change because the one of the things that always frustrated
me would be like at the end of the quarter,
somebody gets a A two or something with like zero
point five seconds left, they pass it in and then they.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Just dribble, and it's like, at least throw it.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
At least throw it like it's it to me, it's
I don't want to say, like, I hate quoting him
loser mentality from what's his face? Uh, while I'm blanking
on his name. Just played ball in Israel? Uh, instigator.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I mean, I feel like that's a lot of.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Subscribe to the podcast. And then he kicked out a reporter.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I this just happened.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
No, this happened last year or two years ago, and
I don't like him. Wow, it's it's too early in
the morning.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
For me.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, you just woke up.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I just woke up.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, But like it's one of those where like me
gets my main point. It's this idea that if you're
trying to win, you would have gone for the shot.
And if you didn't do that, it's a very selfish
play that you're just dribbling the ball instead of at
least like half court three.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
But is it any different than and I feel like
this happened like a year ago or something like that,
where Andre Drummond talked about how he would miss shots
intentionally to get more rebounds. Like, is it any different
than that, Like, because that's Andre d Drummond was there
for rebounds really, and so he was just making sure
he was getting that next paycheck.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I mean, I think that's also a bit crazy as well,
But I think that's the that's just like a rare
one case as opposed to the overwhelming majority. It's if
it helps improve that aspect, then yes, I applaud the
NBA for at least making the rule change.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I guess it is frustrating.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Sure, but but then I guess, to play devil's advocate,
there could be a potential argument that players mighty be
less likely to do this now. Because they don't want
to impact the team's shooting percentage for the season because
it will still count as a miss for the team
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and not the player. Again, I'm just playing devil's advocate.
I don't think he will actually impact stats. Crazy. Like,
for example, the article that I saw talked about a
bunch of guys, big name guys that you would imagine
are taking a lot of these half court heaves at
the end of games. Kobe Bryant took fifty four in
his career and he only ever made one, so like,
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obviously the percentages are not great. Carmelo actually never made one,
which is kind of wild when you think about it,
but he attempted forty five of them. Vince Carter was
two for fifty two in his career. JR. Smith, well,
somehow he's on this list. He attempted fifty seven career
heaves and he only started forty percent of the time
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in his career, So that's why that fifty seven is
kind of surprising.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
But then you go to other players that that this
article that I was reading deemed them, call deem them
buzzer beater towers, and I love that. Like James Harden, right,
He's only had eighteen in his sixteen NBA seasons. The
dude shoots everything.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
He shoots everywhere else except for beyond half court with pot.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
With the second left. Yeah, he doesn't want to. But
do we think it's because it'll hurt his percentage? I
don't know. Westbrook's only taken sixteen in the seventeen seasons. Again,
is kind of surprising. Kevin Durant's only taken nine in
seventeen seasons. So I don't know if this gets them
to do that, And I also don't know if I
really care for them to do it. I'm with you,
(06:42):
at the end of the game, if it's not close,
at least at least throw it out there. But I
guess if you're down by five and it's the end
of the game, there's no point to do it. It's
not like you're gonna win.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I mean, by the way, Pat Bev, that's who else
for you?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Oh Beverly Okay, yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Pat Bev Bleep, Pat Bev Orlando Magic legend and so
uh it's to me though, when you say, oh, it
affects team stats when it comes to contract negotiations, nobody's
looking at team stats like an individual's stats, and so
that that was the whole whole reason behind it. They
didn't want to ruin their shooting percentage for that next contract.
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And so, and I understand, I guess the idea of, oh,
if I keep doing these heaves, all of a sudden,
it's going to slowly tick away, take away, take away
at my shooting percentage. But I still think of it's
selfish in the mindset of if this is supposed to
be a game that we need to win, you need
to try everything. It's why we tell people in the
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fourth quarter to help get it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Does keep it a little closer. Do you think we
get to a point where, like you know in uh,
like hockey, you've got the enforcer guy that'll be the
one that goes into fight. Do you think there's a
guy that's gonna be the designated heave guy? So that
now because teams know it could again this is so
like Devil's ad. But if you're a team and you
know this will impact your team's percentage, why wouldn't you
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just set one specific guy on the team you are
always the heave guy at the end of games, practice
this and get this percentage. I don't know to a
ten success rate.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I feel like if they're the heave guy, then they're
automatically the three point shooter.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
That's exactly why.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yeah, they've Patrick traded for Desmond Baine, Like, yeah, Desmond
Bain's gonna be the heave guy.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
He's gonna be the one that starts jacking up threes.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I think it's like if they had that, then they
would have gone with that in the first place. I
think eventually, because of Steph Curry, people are just gonna
start slowly back up more and more and start shooting
more because it's like, all right, step is just already
just heaving up.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
What counts does a heave? So now it's not gonna
impact my percentage is yet.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, it's like, are we we start changing that definition
slowly but surely, because eventually we're gonna start jacking up
threes from your own free throw line just because you
know you could.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
There's always that one team. Usually it's like middle of
the pack team that kind of only ever wins close
games or loses close games, just always the games are close.
I wonder if their field goal percentage will look worse
on paper because they are in those situations where they
might actually be taking multiple heaves uh throughout the season
(09:19):
almost every game if it's close like that, like maybe
there are more heaves and that potentially, uh, you know,
potentially would bring the team shooting down because it is,
like we said, we talked about it, all these big
time name players, it's like a one to two percent
success rate on making this shot. So it's not great.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I think it's you know how we have certain phrases
for certain players where it's like, oh, this guy's a
blue guy, this guy, you know, ultimate team player. Eventually
the game's going to evolve. Were like, oh, man, like
heave guy, Like you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Go we got the heave guy. I'm just saying. I'm
just saying. If we're three weeks into the season and
I hear one postgame report where they're like, oh, why
didn't you throw that shot at the end of the
game and he says I didn't want to hurt the
team's stats, I'm going to be so upset and be like,
(10:14):
this is what we didn't want to have and now
we already have that excuse out there.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Well, I would have thought with advanced analytics the way
they are now, like teams would automatically, like have the
ability to track like, oh, hey, by the way, you're
shooting from here, we could like, we could easily tell
you're shooting from three quarters court because it's a heave.
We're gonna deduct that from your status.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Take that out of those stats. It doesn't matter. Yeah,
I agree with you. I think I think that would
be the case as well. I'm just saying if I
hear it in a postgame interview, I'm gonna be very upset.
I will not be happy. Oh yeah, either way, this
is the Driving Dish NBA podcast. Thank you for joining
us and talking heave stat percentages and what the impact
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of the twenty twenty five twenty six season could mean.
For that, I do think it's weird. It's one of
those things where I am very confused as to like
why that was changed. But either way, you can follow
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(11:20):
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(12:01):
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we come back with a little Kuhi update because it's
still ugly out there. It's it's not looking great. He
the most recent I guess update of this well, I
(12:24):
guess for anybody that doesn't know, they're investigating allegations that
the Clippers attempted to skirt around the salary with a
company that is now bankrupt, it's also worth mentioning, which
is allegedly paid Kawhi Leonard twenty eight million dollars with
no promotional work required, which does probably raise some red flags.
(12:46):
Adam Silver pointed out that they're, you know, hiring a
law firm to look into this. The more recent part
of the updates is, and if you want to hear
Kevin and I's full thoughts, you go back to the
last episode where we kind of really deep dove into
this situation and what was being reported as of now.
(13:06):
The updates to that is there's a report out of
Toronto that alleges Kawhi Leonards camp did ask for improper
payments from the Raptors back in twenty nineteen. Apparently that
was when they were negotiating with Kawhi following the NBA Finals.
They didn't really say what it was, but apparently it
was about a ten million dollar something in payments outside
(13:29):
of the NBA contract for no show jobs and land
ownership states and companies owned by the Maple Leafs Sports Entertainment,
including the team, So that's interesting. Pablo Torre has also
said that if you go back to quarter three of
twenty twenty two, the payment was supposed to this is
(13:50):
with the Clippers. Now, the payment was supposed to arrive
to kawhis camp in October and November, but it wasn't
paid until December fifteenth, and that is after the Clipper's
owner invested two million to potentially again allegedly pay Kauhi's
one point seventy five that was supposed to go to
him at that point. The game logs for that season
(14:12):
in twenty twenty two, again, according to Pablo dora Is,
he played seven of the twenty seven games before December.
During that week and after that week when the payment
was finally arrived, Kawhi then played in forty five out
of the fifty five remaining games of the season. Yeah,
you can't claim injury, so that's fine, we can go
down that route. But that's a twenty two percent play
(14:35):
rate to a eighty two percent play rate. Again, you
can theorize what might have changed or what might have helped. Again,
there was injury at least reported, so that is part
of this. Everybody's innocent improved until proven guilty. But man
Omana does not look good.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yeah, it's such a bizarre story, and I feel like
this is also such a Clippers story. To where it's like, hey,
how can we compete with the Lakers. All right, we'll
bring in this big guy. How can we do it?
I don't think we have the money for it. Oh,
I got away allegedly of course, Like it's how you're
(15:13):
It's already tough being the Clippers because you're drastically overshadowed
by Lakers, no matter how bad, Like, no matter how
good you are and how bad they are, it's always
a Lakers town. But I'm really curious to see what
the repercussions here if all of this becomes true, because
I feel like one and this is all like Clippers
ownership probably might get kicked out and have to sell
(15:36):
the team. Also what happens with Kawhi Leonard yecause I
feel like this also is a punishable offense too. That granted,
you could say they should have done the right thing
and said no, but at the same time, I kind
of look at it like a drug deal, like, yes,
my crack dealer, My crack dealer could have told me, hey, no,
(15:59):
this is illegal, but he still sold me the crack.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
So I feel like, there you want, you.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Want some of this good basketball play.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Exactly what I feel like also is like, I feel
like the crack dealer is also the crack seller and
they're both the Clippers. Like I feel like, so you
can you pick and choose who you want in this analogy.
So I feel like there has to be some form
of repercussions. Well why if this is true?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
And again, it's just it's just something I vaguely remember
talking about the podcast when Kawhi was on the Spurs.
I feel like there was a point where the Spurs
were saying he's healthy enough to play and he was saying, no,
I'm not. And I remember us being like, is it
a mental thing? Where like he's not past it? And
I'm not saying it's involved in this at all, but like,
what if that's kind of part of this conversation where
(16:47):
these moments of Kauhi's career pass where we're like the
team's saying he's healthy and he's saying he's not ready.
Is like, is that is that? Because there was some
other stuff going on now? And again, like your point,
where does this put Kawhi in everybody's mindset? Is I
think now this is what will happen is we won't
know and we probably won't believe Kawi again, if this
is true when when he claims injury, you know, because
(17:10):
that's what we've had the past few years. That's what
we had in San Antonio for sure. And now now
Toronto's coming out and saying that this was at least
something that was brought up. I don't know if there
was anything to it, but again, it's all allegations until
until something comes through. But yell, it does not looking
good and and it I do wonder if this turns
(17:31):
into like a Pandora's box, because I promise you, if
Kawi is asking for this stuff, there's no way it's
not asked from other players.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
In my opinion, you're probably right, Like I wouldn't be
surprised if, like you see that with Miami with Lebron
and d Wade.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
You might see it also with.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Like I don't think the Lakers would actually do it,
believe it or not, I feel like, but you could
also see like these potential failed three teams during that time.
But going back to the Kawhi thing like that, what
was crazy about that saga during San Antonio was just
the fact that, like when san Antonio was like, oh yeah,
he's he's good to play, and it and he said no.
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And it wasn't like Tom Thibodeau was his coach. It
was Greg Popovich, who's always been a player's guy and
also like is very concerned about the well being of
his players. So like him and his staff saying that
he's good and then him say no, it's it kind
of now raises even more red flags in comparison, just
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looking back to that saga.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, no, I I agree with you. I think it's
a it's a I think that's what people will do
if this comes out and is a true thing or
something that that was put out there. I feel like
the ramifications obviously in terms of people getting in trouble,
the Clippers and Kawhi will get in trouble, but I
feel like it'll leave a weirder to And I don't
(18:58):
know why I feel this, but I feel like Kawhi
is gonna get the one that gets the worst, Like
Mark for this, people will be like, oh my gosh, dude,
you know, whereas like Clippers they'll lose picks, they'll they'll
lose you know, money, whatever. It is like, they're gonna
get hit hard, and that wouldn't surprise me. But I
feel like a few years down the line, everyone will
move on. But then, but like Kawhi, if you bring him,
(19:20):
if this is true, and you bring him up years
down the line, this is what people will talk about,
probably more than like, Wow, he went to Toronto and
won them that that ring.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Is he gonna be the new Pete Rose for the NB?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I don't think so. I don't think it would go
that bad, but I think but I think people will
associate him with this this issue more than more than
the on court stuff, which obviously was you know, top
five players in the league at most times. So so
I'm very interested to see where it goes. But you know,
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even with him in general, the consistency the availability is
a concern, and now people will look at that and
be like, is the consistency and the availability actually injuries
or was it some side gig you know pushback. I
don't know. I don't know. And that's the part that's
going to be the weirdest part to go back on.
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If and whenever we get a ruling on this, and
hopefully I do hope that it's all just smoke and
mirrors and nothing's there and we can just be like
that was a really weird allegation, but man, oh man,
you know there's a lot of smoke here and you
know what, you know how this saying goes, So that
part makes me wonder Yah. So let's talk less allegations
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and more of a team that probably will be the
number one team in the East. I feel pretty good
feeling that way. I feel like they probably only really
have one potential a team that could push them out
of that. But I would say the general consensus is
the Knicks are going to be the team in the
East next year. They just added Malcolm Brogden to the team.
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It's a one year deal, so very low risk veteran
ball handling. I know there was some conversation about Ben
Simmons earlier this summer. I think most people would agree
to go with Malcolm Brogden over Ben Simmons, which is
a wild thing to be able to say at this point,
especially if you go back a few years. But Brogden's
thirty two. He's a nine year vet shooting a thirty
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eight percent from three for a career. Obviously, injuries are
a worry. He's had a bunch of hamstring, knee, foot,
ankle stuff going down just sixty three appearances over the
last two seasons with the Trailblazers and the Wizards. But
to the Knick side of this, this is what the
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Knicks needed to do, right, They needed to bolster their depth,
and that this move is just one of many that
really does do that. You know, their core pretty much
stayed intact, and then you add you know, you add
Malcolm brogged In, Jordan Clarkson, Landry Shammitt, you know, a
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bunch of these guys to help the next team who
very quick clearly ran out of steam at the end
of the season last year and really the year before that.
It felt like, so I think this is the move
you had to do. The head coaching stuff, I think
it's still debatable. Mike Brown stepping in as the coach fine,
(22:30):
but I don't necessarily feel like that's a massive change
to what you had last year. I feel like you
probably could have could have not done that and still
added these players and we'd feel the same way. So
good for the good, for the good for the Knicks.
I do think they will be the team to beat
in the East next year.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah, I think They're gonna be at least the number
one team in the East. Going into the playoffs, I
don't know if they're gonna come out of the East,
just because that's where you kind of see the depth
come into play. And that was a very shallow team
last season. Now, granted, I feel like part of that
shallowness comes from the way Tom Thibodeau coach, and so
(23:13):
I think that's part of it. But yeah, like Malcolm Brockton,
like we're three years removed from him winning a six
minut Year Award, and like the thing is, yes, you
mentioned his availability, he was also on really bad teams
and I feel like I don't want to use his
stats against him. Like he was still on the Portland
team that just that got rid of Damian Lillard, so
there's still rebuilding. He was on the Wizards last year.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Who are the Wizards and they had just gotten rid
of Kuzma, so they were clearly rebuilding.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, I mean, I mean I feel like they've been
rebuilding for the past What year is the wizardybuilding?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
The Wizards have been rebuilding since we started this podcast.
I think it was twelve years ago. Oh no, really
twelve years ago on this podcast.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
They've rebuilding since they became the Wizards, Like that's when.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
When when was the I'm gonna actually see if chat
Gibt can give you this answer. When was the last
time the Wizards had a winning.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I want to say it was probably it was during
like the Dane era.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
It had to have had They've had to have had
a winning season the last ten years, right.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
I think so. But I think it's like a barely
winding all right.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, twenty seven, twenty eighteen, they were the eighth seed
in the East, forty three and thirty nine. Again I
guess it, check that, but but that sounds like it.
Oh yeah, John Wall Bradley Beal was still there, so
that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, okay, yeah there was something there.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Cool. You made it to the eighth seed in the East.
That's like that tenth seed in the West.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, exactly, Like that's generous. By the way, that tenth seed.
I feel like the move, it's it's a veteran move. Really,
it's nothing. It's not a splashy one, but it's still
I think a key piece to at least help you.
And I think also Mike Brown's system might help get
more longevity out of players instead of like limping to
(25:16):
the finish line or also just straight up dying because
that's what we kind of just saw him sputter out
towards the end.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
So I like the move.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
It's weird that we had to say that, like, oh,
it's either them or Ben Simmons, because I mean that
Ben Simmons is just it's a frustrating point. Are we
that at that point in the off season now where
we're just like, oh, wait, we're in September now, Hey,
Ben Simmons right now has been putting in at work like.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
That where we're at right now in the off season.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Pretty much pretty much. But but but I also think
it's because he's come out and talked about how he
may retire, which is again a wild thing to see
how far we've come and and I've never seen it
with a player where you can literally go back to
one specific play like that missed layup or under the basket,
(26:05):
like not shot, attempt to pass out that was that
was the moment that was where everything unconnected for whatever
reason for him or or his career or whatever. It is, like,
it's such a wild thing to be able to go
back and say that that moment, that specific spot caught
on video and the city reacting to you not going
up and taking that shot is is what did it end?
(26:25):
Kind of?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
I remember a Gatorade commercial to bear with me on
this one. There was a Gatorade commercial where they talked
about like that last half second, and so they show
all these highlight plays, but they altered them to where
they had like the opposite results, like a throw from
and based like a throw from the outfield to the
catcher to get a guy out and the person was
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safe or something, and then like oh they someone got
crossed over and they end up falling, and then like
you and then they drank gatorade and then you know,
you get like the spectacular result like Jordan actually making
a shot and all that. I look at that play
as if like it's that commercial where I just think
if they dunk it, what happens to just that whole
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thing where it's like if you just had it in him.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
It's the butterfly effect. Dude. If he did that dunk
and say we win that game? What what? What changes?
There could be so many different like again, it's all
what is at that point? But oh yeah, we we
would be I mean we'd have flying cars at this point,
you know what I mean? Like we'd be, we'd be,
we'd have we'd have condos on Mars. I think we'd be,
(27:38):
we'd be out there. I know aliens are apparently visiting
us with this new medior thing. If anybody wants to
go down that conspiracy theory. Uh but but like, yeah,
he makes that shot, and like my I have a
I have a vacation house on Jupiter.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Apparently, I think if he makes that shot, the Eagles
don't win the next super Bowl, because.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Don't tell that.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
The super Bowls, because the Sixers would win the championship
and the entire city would just burn down. So I
want to say Ben Simmons, thank you for just getting
the yips and therefore saving the city, knowing probably what happened,
knowing real destination style, he saw the disruption, he said,
no camp and he.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Just I can't do that to a whole city. No,
I think honestly, and Kevin probably backed me up on this.
I think if you asked any Philly sports fan, you
could have a you could have a finals championship or
the super Bowl. I promise you ninety two percent of
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them are saying the super Bowl. I'm almost positive about it.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
That's an interesting question, Like I mean, like ranking a
city's fandom.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
It football is just bigger. In general, football is bigger.
So I think that would be the case if I'd
be like the way Phil is, I bet it's super Bowl,
Well it's probably football, then baseball.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Really over at least over the Sixers.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Phillies are so good right now, dude, the city is
buzzing about it, like they are so pumped about this team,
and then it's probably basketball and hockey are real close,
but they would be third and fourth.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
But we have to think of also at that time.
So if let's say.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Baseball, Phillies were, Phillies were big at that point, and
I know the Eagles were what they went the next year.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I think they won the next year. But so you're
if they won the next year, so then you have
a a winless Eagles team, then you also never one yet.
So now you have to ask the question, Yeah, Syterea,
would you rather have an Eagles Super Bowl win or.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
A six I promise, I promise you it's Eagles. I
promise you it's Eagles. I promise I can was guarantee
it's Eagle.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
I'm surprised. I'm kind of surprised because I feel like
the Sixers have a more legacy city. I could be mistaken.
I'm not going to sit here and act like I'm
a Philly fan. I'm just still surprised just to hear that, like, oh, yeah,
they'll take eag cause that was but that two to eight.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
You gotta remember that was the Eagles first one like
that was that was it, That was the city wanting
it bad like.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
And then we discover we have to grease up light
poles and Phillies like like that's.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Gonna stop us.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
You would, yeah, you would have to do that, regardless
of what teams winning at that point, like the Phillies
whatever they clinched, because they're about to be able to
when when the Phillies are about to clinch the the
the NL East, So I'm pretty sure they'll probably have
to grease the polls at that point too, if they
haven't already they have like a nine game lead or
something like that, the Phillies. That people are buzzing, dude,
people are really excited about the Phillies right now, at
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least in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I saw that they won against the Mets.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
I was at work and I saw that like the
Mets put up four in the first like, ooh, this
isn't good. And then I saw somebody post on Twitter,
oh typical Mets loss.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I'm like, oh, they didn't score the rest of the
top the rest of.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, that's about how it goes. Oh. As of Phillies
will clinch the NLS with their magic number reaches zero,
which as of September thirteenth, so today, three more wins.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Three more wins. Alright, three more.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Wins which they could potentially clinch as early as tomorrow
recording this podcast if they sweep the Royals and the
Moment podcast, Yeah, maybe let's go Phillies.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Rice Harbor, uh, Philly Chaks.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Listen, those are those are legit and and and the
other part is the Phillisoft pretzels are are o a thing.
So Bradley Cooper, Dude, I when I went back home
to Jersey, I got some Northern pizza for the first
time in forever. And bro, when I tell you I
was missing it, it was, Oh my god. I didn't
realize how much I was missing it. That you take
that first bite of that crunch, You're like, oh lord,
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this is Florida. Ain't got nothing on Northern Pizza. I
don't know what it is, man, I'm just putting it
out there. But let's let's let's hurry along here and
get into ballin and Fallin'.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
It is time for Who's Ballin' and Who's Falling on
the Drive and Dish podcast.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
So we'll start with ball and Chase. I'll let you
go first. What is your ball in today?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Magic? Euroball or Magic?
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Yes, If I'm going to do a podcast with noted
magic hater Justin Kuzart, I have to throw in the
magic support somehow. Right now, a bunch of players from
the Atlanta Magic are playing Euroball right now. Franz Wagner's
been having over twenty points the last three games. Tristan's
z Silva put up in big points against Great Britain.
They both have Germany in the finals right now against Turkey.
Depending on when this goes live, that game is Sunday. Also,
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Gogobatase up helping out the Georgian team, putting up twenty
points somehow discovering a three point shot.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I don't you want that? Yeah? You want to?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
And so it's I like the Euroball games just because
it it kind of keeps both the players healthy and
also like kind of in shape going into the season.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But it's been nice kind of seeing them.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Just like take it, like take charge, like Goga Patase
is one of the best players. And it's kind of
weird saying that because you kind of associate them as
like a role player here, but just seeing them just
like kind of get that edge and build up their confidence.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
I absolutely love it.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
How many more wins will the seventy six Ers have
than the Magic next year?
Speaker 4 (33:26):
That's a good question. How many games does Joelle and
bed have played.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
That's a fair question. That's a fair question because the
Magic forty what were they last year? They were forty
one and forty one. They're fifty five hundred. I think, yeah,
uh so they're forty one and forty one and six
Ers were twenty four and fifty eight.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I mean, like the thing is, like I've always said
that the Sixers team is a good team. They just
get plugged by injuries, the problems they play, and they
are hampered by the availability of Joel embiid yep. And
so at that point, like I think I've I've thrown
it out to you, and I've thrown it out to Kevin.
You know, at what point do you try to move
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on from him? Because you can't. It's not a sustainable
system any now.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
But I don't think that very act so Dan McCain
will be good. I do like the young guys. For
the Sixers, I am genuinely curious as to what I
think next year is going to be a very very
eye opening season for them, especially with how wide open
the East is. Like, I think the Knicks and Caves
will probably be the top two, but Celtics Bucks are
also going to be dealing with injury pump pacers to
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injury problem, so that leaves it wide open for the
Magic to potentially pop into that that third spot. I
think if you have a healthy Sixers, you talk about
the Sixers in that three, four, five, six range. But again,
if not, they are down at the thirteen, fourteen to
fifteen range. So it oh Pistons, I should give them
all the credit in the world. They're definitely gonna be
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up there. I don't want to miss that. I think
Pistons will have a better record than the Magic next year.
They'll be close though, there will still be like a
six to seven, but maybe it's like a four five
or a three four type situation in my In my mind,
I think they will. The Pistons and Magic will be
very similar. They're gonna have same trajectory for a while
in my mind, just because they're both young, developing teams
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that are that are looking promising.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
So yes, I think four.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
I think I could still see the Sixers possibly being
like a not playing team, like I think they can
make the playoffs if Joel Embiid at least plays half
the season, So I think you could possibly a five
to six possibly four surprising anyway.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
My ballin's going to Wemby, who is trying to help
the Spurs launch a supporters section. Apparently he got this
idea from Soccer and so what he wants to do
is hold tryouts. Essentially, he's holding like a meeting for
this group. Uh, it's actually happening tomorrow for anybody that
listens in the Spurs area. Wemby and the Spurs are
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looking for some high energy fans who can commit to
it least attending seventy five percent of the team's home
games this season, plus are willing to participate in chance
and rituals while supporting with passion and respect is a
thousand dollars membership to be in this club, but it'll
have discounts and chances to meet special guests. I would
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assume that means players and coaches. I don't know who
the hell else it's gonna be. The group's gonna vote
on its own name. So I like this idea. I do.
I really do think this is a fun idea. I
don't think you should let the group vote on its
own name only because if you're the Spurs, you could
sponsor this thing. And I'm telling you right now, if
you don't call this section the Wembassy, I'm gonna be upset. Ooh.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
I like that because originally I initially thought like webin Rama.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Uh yeah, the Wembassy the corner, it's the Wembassy, especially
if Wemby's like behind it, he's the future of the team.
The other thing you could call it is like the
Stretch Zone just because Wemby's so big. Go get it
sponsored by Stretch Labs and now you're making money on
top of it, and maybe you can make the membership
seven fifty for this season or something. But I'm telling you,
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the Wembassy is like, let's get on that right now,
Wembassy for the spurs right behind the basket. They'll have
chance and stuff to distract the free throw shooters. It'll
be great. It'll be a whole thing.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Yeah, I had got nothing after Wembassy. I feel like
Wembassy is like that's the top tier because but the
thing is, every time you have voting, it's going to
be like Wemby wick men Wey.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You can't let them pick.
You can't let them pick. You could also go like
Planet Wemby. If you're going with the Wemby Angle, the
Wemby Wall, the the Wemby's watch tower, like, you can
do something like that, you know what I mean. Spur
Squad probably also makes sense. A case Webby is not
the way you want to focus on Coyote Crew, because
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I think Coyote is there, the mascot, the Alamo Army, like,
you know, you could get some you can get some
stuff going.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
I feel like because I know that he's kind of
embraced the whole alien aspect. But I feel like right
now we probably talking about aliens.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Listen, Oh, we should be talking about aliens. We're about
to get visited. I'm just saying planet Wemby the alien Alliance.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
That's not where I was going, especially when you're in Texas.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Okay, fair enough, the Eiffel Tower, Wemby is Wonderland. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
What you just gonna have like an animatronic Wemby, just
like what was.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
In the corner, waving his hand on it, swag.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Bag East children.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Oh well, right, well that took its turn. But either way,
that's that's that's our the ball and portion of this.
So let's take a sadder turn. I guess my falling's
go into Jason Collins came out as having to undergo
a brain tumor. His family posted that on Thursday's going
treatment for a brain tumor. That's a bummer. He was
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the first openly gay player, and he is an ambassador
for the league now. I believe he retired in twenty fourteen,
thirteen years the NBA had stints with the Nets, Grizzlies, Timberwolves, Atlanta, Boston, Washington.
I believe he lives in Brooklyn now as well, So,
you know, wishing him the best in that recovery. But
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a bummer to hear and not fun news to have to,
you know, talk about.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Yeah, it's really sad. Hopefully he gets better. My fall
in on a different note is Adam Silver. Now, when
asked about how expensive it is to not only go
to an NBA game, but to watch the NBA because
of all the stream platforms it's on now yep, Peacock
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Prime and ESPN, like ESMA their own stream platform, he said, well,
you started by saying we're going to be essentially exposed
and exposed on broadcast television to seventy five. Now he's
talking about like measurements and all that. Sure, and so
I and he adds, I mean to you can add
like rabbit Ears and you can still get seventy five
(39:58):
Marquee games and essentially free for the marketplace. I'd say,
in addition to that, there's an ongoing issue for the league.
There's a humount of our content that essentially can consume
for free. I mean, it's very much a highlights based sport.
And I feel like it was a very disingenuous answer
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because of the fact that, like before, you didn't need
to you really essentially didn't need to get like spend
any money. You mean, you could have gotten Rabbit Ears
and you could have gotten on NBC you could have
gotten it on. Yeah, well the tn T I think
was still like a little uh you had to get
like a cable box. But then okay, so you had
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to get a cable box which had ESPN, T and
T and then you had no problem. And then you
had also the local broadcast channels. Now it's costing more
money essentially to watch this.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
I feel like it's happening across the board with sports
in general, like we're seeing.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Yeah, but like as the the NBA has been any
very good progressive league, like the NFL hasn't, doesn't really
deal with that as much because they're still on Fox
NBC and.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
The Thursday, the Thursday night games that's Amazon, and that's
where people gave them pushback. I know that there was
a Jags playoff game that was on Peacock and I
remember that was a big deal at one point. But yeah, no,
I I agree with you, uh Siver Si get out
of here with your poor people thoughts.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Yeah, essentially, And I hate highlights space because it's the
fact that like there's a clip going around on Twitter
that's like, oh, Darvin Ham was a real baller, Like
no he is that.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
I mean, I would say more than I would say baseball,
more than basketball is a highlights space. I could watch
a TikTok reel of a Phillies game and get the
gist of what happened.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Yeah, especially like it's so like you don't get a
lot with highlights when it comes to that, like you
don't understand flow, like you're better off just reading a
box score.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
But even still, like box scores can be.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Misleading, very much so, especially now that team stats are
going to be impacted by half hees. No, I I
agree with you. I don't know how you fix it.
I think this is the way things are going, and
teams are just gonna experiment with this, or leagues are
gonna experiment with this because people are leaning into the
streaming world more and more in cables, becoming less and
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less every day. Like I think it's just gonna be
a necessary evil. And you know, maybe it gets to
a point where it is a pay per game type
situation and I hate that. But but we'll see. You know,
you're just gonna have to wait and see where this
road travels, because again, like you said, I think NBA, NFL, MLB,
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everybody's looking into it and figuring out what this new
world in digital is essentially, So we've got I would
give us twelve minutes, all right at most to to
to to house this immaculate grid. All right, So I'm
gonna share it with you. I think we can get
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it done because it's a lot of stats, and that
means we have a lot of guys to work with.
And it's a seventy six ers category. So if I
don't get this, I should have my fandom revoked. So
here we are reading it across the board from left
to right. We got seventy six ers. We got one
block per game in a season, and then the one
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right next to it, one steal per game in a season.
And then going down the square, we've got Lakers, we've
got Bulls, and we got first round draft pick. So Chase,
I'll uh, Kevin usually throws it to me, so I'll
throw it to you. As to where you would like
to potentially start this process.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
I mean easily, I could go seventy six ers, first
round draft pick.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
You could just go bend down the line.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
We probably should do it, just out of like respect
for his career.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Yeah, I know it's not exactly the most stellar answer,
but like right now.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
It was ten percent, though it's still not.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Who forget Like, yes, we're at now.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, people are definitely forgetting about him. Yes, okay, uh
Kyle korver.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Vouch uhh yeah, the chair, I forgot about that.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
I'm trying to think. I know there's others, and I
think that Eeus Young ended up with the Bulls Uh? Oh,
who was what's his name he played with? He played
with Jordan's uh foreigner, and then he went to the Sixers.
He was in the documentary too, Oh my god, I
should remember his name?
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Forget.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah, either way, we've got options there.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
M hm. I'm trying to think of like seventy six
ers Lakers.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
What's his name? The guy the the the well. He
never actually played a game for us, so it wouldn't work.
At the center he heard his knee bowling. Oh yeah,
the man to buy him? That was what?
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Yeah, that was what the think like, I don't know
if they're gonna count that.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Dwight Howard would for sure work. I know there's another one.
Lou didn't play. Did Luke play for the Lakers? Lou
will Swaggy Pee We gotta go Swaggy Peck Young?
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Yeah, Nick Young, No, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Nick Young, Swaggy Pete.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
I feel like the first round, first round draft pick,
I'm pretty sure you could ease for one block. You
could easily just go Dwight Howard.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Oh yeah, Dwight would be easy. One. Yeah, Dwight would
definitely work. I'm debating if Alfred Peyton was a first
round pick and if he had one steel per game
per season, I feel like he should.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
If you want to, like I'll say this as a
Magic fan, if you want to live by the Peyton
and die by the Peyton.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Right on it, you man, we we we always live
and die by the Peyton. I am just not very
confident that he has a steal pertain. I want to
do it. I just don't want to tank our. I
don't want to tank our. You don't want to you
don't have I do want to heave. Let's put it
on the team stats. Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Let's do uh Elfred Peyton?
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Oh my god? Please?
Speaker 2 (46:33):
No?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Oh wait, I didn't click it. Okay, okay, yes, oh
my god? Point zero two. Let's go Elfred Peyton. I
gotta look that up. How many steals does he have?
Let me? Let me okay, while you do that think
of a bull for one block and one steal. I
feel like Jordan probably works for both.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Yeah, I feel like Jordan. I'm trying to think of
joke him. Noah is what about.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
What's his name? The three point shooter? Oh? What was
his name? Started with an eh?
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (47:13):
I bet i bet uh I bet Derek Rose probably
works for either of those.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Or a steel. Maybe I don't know about block.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Let's do Rose for a steel.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
Sounds like we're on Hollywood squares. I'll do Derek Rose
for the steal?
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Oh I said already used that freaked me out. Dude,
that delay freaked me out. I was like, no way,
he didn't have a steal joking Noah. Carlos Boozer, Oh,
Boozer might be the one.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
I think.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
What's going on with this? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
I'm getting so if you can't see it on the YouTube,
my page is constantly all of the ads that are coming.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
In it is dude, Boozer doesn't have a block per game?
What hold on? Hold on, I gotta look that up.
Carlos Boozer.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
If it's joking Noah, I'm going.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Well, it's Noah has to have a block, no Boozer
never had a block per game in his whole career
for a season. Really, the closest was Cleveland in his
second year he had point seven.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
How the hell did we get from?
Speaker 4 (48:34):
Like, oh yeah, Elford Peyton, that might be that's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
I'm too scared, but Boo.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Boozer was not a shit. Well, now we just got
to do Dennis Rodman to like be safe.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Well, Rodman was more rebounds. I don't know if he
was more blocks.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
You don't think he just has a block per game
out of being down there? He probably I mean or joking, No,
I'd rather go Rodman over Noah.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah, I'd rather go Brodman.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
I'm gonna be so upset.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
Oh my god, he was more rebounds, right, I still gotta.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Be a a bly is a block per game that
I didn't realize that was not a thing that just
everybody got pretty much.
Speaker 4 (49:20):
I'm just gonna look up because I know I'm eating,
but whatever, I'm gonna look up.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Joke him.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
Noah, Dennis, I'm surprised that Rodman did.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Oh my gosh, was that right about?
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Joke?
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Ym? Noah?
Speaker 1 (49:35):
No, I didn't look he had. Rodman had point nine
for Detroit in ninety one ninety two. But he never
had an average of a block per game.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
Uh joke Kim Noah his second season one point four,
then one point six, one point five.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
One point alright.
Speaker 4 (49:51):
All the band did was block, And so I just
need to have more confidence in my probably listening to
this having an aneurysms.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
As if the.
Speaker 4 (50:04):
Eagles Sixers debate wasn't an aneurysm enough, this may have
driven him to death.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
I am so upset. I am so upset.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
Oh yeah, me too, that I should have just I
should have been more demanding and said, oh yeah, joke him.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Noah, I mean I I ah, Oh my gosh, dude.
All right, well, do you have anybody specific you'd like
to go? Sixers Bulls just to just to get yo booch.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
I want to see that percentage.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
I spell it V you see you see, Yeah, there is.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
That's all you need to know.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
People do forget he was on the Sixers. I was
so mad when they traded him to Orlando.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
I liked him. I liked it when they traded him.
I know that people don't like they like to make
fun of that trade, but I was happy when we
got him.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
So would you rather go Lakers one block or Lakers
one steal? To finish it off here, as we are
going to have an imperfect board cares anymore? Well, who
do we think is going to be less because block?
I obviously go shack. That's an easy one steals. I
bet Kobe has it.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Does have a one steal again?
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Now see now we're going to try to get too
fancy with it. We just gotta get We gotta at
least fill one more square. Paul Gasol probably.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
Yeah, Paul's probably got a block. Andrew Biden's probably got
a block.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
Do you think Josh Hart had it while he was there?
I don't know for what? For what? For steel? For block?
How does he spelled that?
Speaker 4 (51:50):
A d.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
There he is? Oh, he's the first one popped up
for steel? Right or block? Which one? Did I click?
Click the right one? Okay? Yeah, there we go. Yeah, bummer, dude, bummer, bummer, bummer.
That's a bummer. All right. So to tell you where
we were, if I could get it to click off,
everything's frozen. Now there we go. Uh, we can keep
(52:13):
guessing if we won to uh to wrap it up
here Lakers sixers, we went swaggy p Lakers one block.
We went Vladi Devoc because we stink. We didn't get
to fill out one steal per game in Lakers. Uh
Sixers Bulls. We went with Vooch Bulls one block. We
(52:35):
were stumped twice, which is why we were in the
situation we are in joking. Noah worked, and I'm upset.
Speaker 3 (52:42):
You'd be fair.
Speaker 4 (52:43):
I was the first guest was Joe Kim Noah. I
did not want to be a disrespectful guest.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Oh, we should have went with it, uh Bulls one
steal per game. We went with Derek Rose, seventy six
ers first round pick, Ben Simmons, first round draft pick,
one block, Dhite Howard, first round draft pick, one steal
per game, Alfred Payton at a point one percent. Our
guests jumped it up to a point one. It was
(53:10):
a point zero two. I'm wondering if it'll actually show us.
It doesn't look like it's gonna show me the WHOA.
I don't want to see Derek Rose stats. I'm wondering
if it'll show me the summary where I can talk
about the most popular answers, because it usually does that.
But it doesn't look like it's uh oh, here we
go no, thanks, maybe later see it will give me
the give me the Oh my gosh, you're right. This
(53:32):
refresh is crazy. Twenty eight options at one block per game. Wow,
Alex Caruso worse. I am so upset, Robin Lopez, Taj Gibson,
Joe Keem, Noah, Paul Gassall even works, Omar Asikh. That's
(53:54):
a good one. Wow, Ben Wallace, Drew Gooden, Tyris Jones,
Tyson Chandler. I am getting more upset as we go.
All right, I'm gonna stop talking about it now. Oh yeah,
popular Answers seventy six ers, Lakers, Will Chamberlain, Lakers one
block shack, which is what we talked about. So I'm
(54:16):
glad we didn't go with that one. Lakers one steal
was Kobe Bulls seventy Did I even say Jimmy Butler
because that's crazy, because I don't think I did.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
No, we didn't say Jimmy Butler for six Ers love.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Oh wow, Bulls one block per game, Joe Keem Noah
as they rub it in it even more, Bulls one
steal per game, Michael Jordan, seventy six ers first round pick,
Joel Embiid first round pick, one block, keem first Round,
Pick one steal. Chris Paul wraps up an episode here
on the Driving Dish NBA podcast.
Speaker 4 (54:49):
If you take anything from this episode that you should
go with you more often.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
So annoying dude Alex caruso oh has one block per game,
but Carlos Boozer didn't. That's how the episode ends, right there.
I'm done. I think we've done a lot of dancers
for today, so why don't we dance Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
Be a star side?
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Okay, well here, hey, we're all right, all right.
Speaker 4 (55:25):
I think they get the point.
This is the Drive and Dish podcast Drive.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome to to start it off, and.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I think this might be the first time I promised
Kevin that I would record an episode with him out
in at least the last two years, and I'm actually
executing it. There have been multiple times where Kevin's busy
doing something and I'm like, yeah, I got you, and
it gets back from vacation and he's like, hey, how'd
it go, and I'm like, oh, right, I was supposed
(00:39):
to do that. Uh So, Kevin, You're welcome. You know,
sometimes the clutch player got to come in clutch, and
that's what I'm doing right now, and Chase in this
case is the clutch player. Thank you Chase for joining
us today. We are going to be talking a lot
of a little bit of NBA news in the fact
that we're we're changing some rules. The Kawhi stuff still
(01:03):
kind of lingering out there, and the Knicks are seemingly
doing what everybody wants them to do in a way
that they don't want them to do it, and so
that's how we'll go about this. So you know, we're
gonna warm up with the new rule change. The NBA
is going to implement, and it's starting in the twenty
five twenty six season, so it's like pretty much starting immediately.
(01:26):
Unsuccessful end of period heaves will now be recorded as
a missed field goal attempt for the team and not
the player. This is reported by ESPN. Those big heaves,
half court heaves, whatever you want to call them, I
know from Driving Dish podcast past there's one, and I
don't necessarily know if it counts as a heave, but
(01:47):
there's one Blake Griffin did against the Suns that was
always a big talking point for us because of Tim's
love for the Suns. But this rule obviously comes out
and protects the individual player stats, which rubs me the
wrong way. But we can get into that a little bit.
It risks creating sub skewed analytics, you know, especially with
(02:08):
in players past who didn't have this perk. Obviously, the
first person everybody kind of goes and talks about is
step Curry, who has just taking monstrous threes. If you
were to retroactively apply this new rule to his career,
he would go from only a forty two point three
percent shooter to a forty two point eight percent shooter.
So shout out to him for still being that amazing
(02:29):
at three point volume. But h but it just kind
of shows it's not like a massive impact. So Chase,
I want to get your thoughts on it. I didn't
really think this was the thing that that players really
wanted to change. It it changed, or a thing that
needed to be a topic of discussion.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
It's I mean, I'm glad that there is the rule
change because the one of the things that always frustrated
me would be like at the end of the quarter,
somebody gets a A two or something with like zero
point five seconds left, they pass it in and then they.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Just dribble, and it's like, at least throw it.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
At least throw it like it's it to me, it's
I don't want to say, like, I hate quoting him
loser mentality from what's his face? Uh, while I'm blanking
on his name. Just played ball in Israel? Uh, instigator.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I mean, I feel like that's a lot of.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Subscribe to the podcast. And then he kicked out a reporter.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I this just happened.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
No, this happened last year or two years ago, and
I don't like him. Wow, it's it's too early in
the morning.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
For me.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, you just woke up.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I just woke up.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, But like it's one of those where like me
gets my main point. It's this idea that if you're
trying to win, you would have gone for the shot.
And if you didn't do that, it's a very selfish
play that you're just dribbling the ball instead of at
least like half court three.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
But is it any different than and I feel like
this happened like a year ago or something like that,
where Andre Drummond talked about how he would miss shots
intentionally to get more rebounds. Like, is it any different
than that, Like, because that's Andre d Drummond was there
for rebounds really, and so he was just making sure
he was getting that next paycheck.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I mean, I think that's also a bit crazy as well,
But I think that's the that's just like a rare
one case as opposed to the overwhelming majority. It's if
it helps improve that aspect, then yes, I applaud the
NBA for at least making the rule change.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I guess it is frustrating.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Sure, but but then I guess, to play devil's advocate,
there could be a potential argument that players mighty be
less likely to do this now. Because they don't want
to impact the team's shooting percentage for the season because
it will still count as a miss for the team
(05:10):
and not the player. Again, I'm just playing devil's advocate.
I don't think he will actually impact stats. Crazy. Like,
for example, the article that I saw talked about a
bunch of guys, big name guys that you would imagine
are taking a lot of these half court heaves at
the end of games. Kobe Bryant took fifty four in
his career and he only ever made one, so like,
(05:33):
obviously the percentages are not great. Carmelo actually never made one,
which is kind of wild when you think about it,
but he attempted forty five of them. Vince Carter was
two for fifty two in his career. JR. Smith, well,
somehow he's on this list. He attempted fifty seven career
heaves and he only started forty percent of the time
(05:56):
in his career, So that's why that fifty seven is
kind of surprising.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
But then you go to other players that that this
article that I was reading deemed them, call deem them
buzzer beater towers, and I love that. Like James Harden, right,
He's only had eighteen in his sixteen NBA seasons. The
dude shoots everything.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
He shoots everywhere else except for beyond half court with pot.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
With the second left. Yeah, he doesn't want to. But
do we think it's because it'll hurt his percentage? I
don't know. Westbrook's only taken sixteen in the seventeen seasons. Again,
is kind of surprising. Kevin Durant's only taken nine in
seventeen seasons. So I don't know if this gets them
to do that, And I also don't know if I
really care for them to do it. I'm with you,
(06:42):
at the end of the game, if it's not close,
at least at least throw it out there. But I
guess if you're down by five and it's the end
of the game, there's no point to do it. It's
not like you're gonna win.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I mean, by the way, Pat Bev, that's who else
for you?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Oh Beverly Okay, yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Pat Bev Bleep, Pat Bev Orlando Magic legend and so
uh it's to me though, when you say, oh, it
affects team stats when it comes to contract negotiations, nobody's
looking at team stats like an individual's stats, and so
that that was the whole whole reason behind it. They
didn't want to ruin their shooting percentage for that next contract.
(07:20):
And so, and I understand, I guess the idea of, oh,
if I keep doing these heaves, all of a sudden,
it's going to slowly tick away, take away, take away
at my shooting percentage. But I still think of it's
selfish in the mindset of if this is supposed to
be a game that we need to win, you need
to try everything. It's why we tell people in the
(07:41):
fourth quarter to help get it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Does keep it a little closer. Do you think we
get to a point where, like you know in uh,
like hockey, you've got the enforcer guy that'll be the
one that goes into fight. Do you think there's a
guy that's gonna be the designated heave guy? So that
now because teams know it could again this is so
like Devil's ad. But if you're a team and you
know this will impact your team's percentage, why wouldn't you
(08:05):
just set one specific guy on the team you are
always the heave guy at the end of games, practice
this and get this percentage. I don't know to a
ten success rate.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I feel like if they're the heave guy, then they're
automatically the three point shooter.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
That's exactly why.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yeah, they've Patrick traded for Desmond Baine, Like, yeah, Desmond
Bain's gonna be the heave guy.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
He's gonna be the one that starts jacking up threes.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I think it's like if they had that, then they
would have gone with that in the first place. I
think eventually, because of Steph Curry, people are just gonna
start slowly back up more and more and start shooting
more because it's like, all right, step is just already
just heaving up.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
What counts does a heave? So now it's not gonna
impact my percentage is yet.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, it's like, are we we start changing that definition
slowly but surely, because eventually we're gonna start jacking up
threes from your own free throw line just because you
know you could.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
There's always that one team. Usually it's like middle of
the pack team that kind of only ever wins close
games or loses close games, just always the games are close.
I wonder if their field goal percentage will look worse
on paper because they are in those situations where they
might actually be taking multiple heaves uh throughout the season
(09:19):
almost every game if it's close like that, like maybe
there are more heaves and that potentially, uh, you know,
potentially would bring the team shooting down because it is,
like we said, we talked about it, all these big
time name players, it's like a one to two percent
success rate on making this shot. So it's not great.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I think it's you know how we have certain phrases
for certain players where it's like, oh, this guy's a
blue guy, this guy, you know, ultimate team player. Eventually
the game's going to evolve. Were like, oh, man, like
heave guy, Like you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Go we got the heave guy. I'm just saying. I'm
just saying. If we're three weeks into the season and
I hear one postgame report where they're like, oh, why
didn't you throw that shot at the end of the
game and he says I didn't want to hurt the
team's stats, I'm going to be so upset and be like,
(10:14):
this is what we didn't want to have and now
we already have that excuse out there.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Well, I would have thought with advanced analytics the way
they are now, like teams would automatically, like have the
ability to track like, oh, hey, by the way, you're
shooting from here, we could like, we could easily tell
you're shooting from three quarters court because it's a heave.
We're gonna deduct that from your status.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Take that out of those stats. It doesn't matter. Yeah,
I agree with you. I think I think that would
be the case as well. I'm just saying if I
hear it in a postgame interview, I'm gonna be very upset.
I will not be happy. Oh yeah, either way, this
is the Driving Dish NBA podcast. Thank you for joining
us and talking heave stat percentages and what the impact
(10:58):
of the twenty twenty five twenty six season could mean.
For that, I do think it's weird. It's one of
those things where I am very confused as to like
why that was changed. But either way, you can follow
us on any podcasting platform. You can subscribe. You'll get
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(11:20):
in like Italy or something like that. So communication has
not been great, and also I don't want to ruin
his vacation by texting him so hopefully he'll be back
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We are also on YouTube. You can find us on
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(11:41):
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six ers category. I'll just put that out there, so
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it'll be kind of embarrassing if we don't, and then
it'll really give Kevin some bragging rights to be like, see,
I'm the one that drags us across the finish lines.
(12:01):
I'm really gonna need you to step up on that.
But like we said, subscribe on YouTube. You can find
us there. Now a quick word from our sponsors, So
we come back with a little Kuhi update because it's
still ugly out there. It's it's not looking great. He
the most recent I guess update of this well, I
(12:24):
guess for anybody that doesn't know, they're investigating allegations that
the Clippers attempted to skirt around the salary with a
company that is now bankrupt, it's also worth mentioning, which
is allegedly paid Kawhi Leonard twenty eight million dollars with
no promotional work required, which does probably raise some red flags.
(12:46):
Adam Silver pointed out that they're, you know, hiring a
law firm to look into this. The more recent part
of the updates is, and if you want to hear
Kevin and I's full thoughts, you go back to the
last episode where we kind of really deep dove into
this situation and what was being reported as of now.
(13:06):
The updates to that is there's a report out of
Toronto that alleges Kawhi Leonards camp did ask for improper
payments from the Raptors back in twenty nineteen. Apparently that
was when they were negotiating with Kawhi following the NBA Finals.
They didn't really say what it was, but apparently it
was about a ten million dollar something in payments outside
(13:29):
of the NBA contract for no show jobs and land
ownership states and companies owned by the Maple Leafs Sports Entertainment,
including the team, So that's interesting. Pablo Torre has also
said that if you go back to quarter three of
twenty twenty two, the payment was supposed to this is
(13:50):
with the Clippers. Now, the payment was supposed to arrive
to kawhis camp in October and November, but it wasn't
paid until December fifteenth, and that is after the Clipper's
owner invested two million to potentially again allegedly pay Kauhi's
one point seventy five that was supposed to go to
him at that point. The game logs for that season
(14:12):
in twenty twenty two, again, according to Pablo dora Is,
he played seven of the twenty seven games before December.
During that week and after that week when the payment
was finally arrived, Kawhi then played in forty five out
of the fifty five remaining games of the season. Yeah,
you can't claim injury, so that's fine, we can go
down that route. But that's a twenty two percent play
(14:35):
rate to a eighty two percent play rate. Again, you
can theorize what might have changed or what might have helped. Again,
there was injury at least reported, so that is part
of this. Everybody's innocent improved until proven guilty. But man
Omana does not look good.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yeah, it's such a bizarre story, and I feel like
this is also such a Clippers story. To where it's like, hey,
how can we compete with the Lakers. All right, we'll
bring in this big guy. How can we do it?
I don't think we have the money for it. Oh,
I got away allegedly of course, Like it's how you're
(15:13):
It's already tough being the Clippers because you're drastically overshadowed
by Lakers, no matter how bad, Like, no matter how
good you are and how bad they are, it's always
a Lakers town. But I'm really curious to see what
the repercussions here if all of this becomes true, because
I feel like one and this is all like Clippers
ownership probably might get kicked out and have to sell
(15:36):
the team. Also what happens with Kawhi Leonard yecause I
feel like this also is a punishable offense too. That granted,
you could say they should have done the right thing
and said no, but at the same time, I kind
of look at it like a drug deal, like, yes,
my crack dealer, My crack dealer could have told me, hey, no,
(15:59):
this is illegal, but he still sold me the crack.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
So I feel like, there you want, you.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Want some of this good basketball play.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Exactly what I feel like also is like, I feel
like the crack dealer is also the crack seller and
they're both the Clippers. Like I feel like, so you
can you pick and choose who you want in this analogy.
So I feel like there has to be some form
of repercussions. Well why if this is true?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
And again, it's just it's just something I vaguely remember
talking about the podcast when Kawhi was on the Spurs.
I feel like there was a point where the Spurs
were saying he's healthy enough to play and he was saying, no,
I'm not. And I remember us being like, is it
a mental thing? Where like he's not past it? And
I'm not saying it's involved in this at all, but like,
what if that's kind of part of this conversation where
(16:47):
these moments of Kauhi's career pass where we're like the
team's saying he's healthy and he's saying he's not ready.
Is like, is that is that? Because there was some
other stuff going on now? And again, like your point,
where does this put Kawhi in everybody's mindset? Is I
think now this is what will happen is we won't
know and we probably won't believe Kawi again, if this
is true when when he claims injury, you know, because
(17:10):
that's what we've had the past few years. That's what
we had in San Antonio for sure. And now now
Toronto's coming out and saying that this was at least
something that was brought up. I don't know if there
was anything to it, but again, it's all allegations until
until something comes through. But yell, it does not looking
good and and it I do wonder if this turns
(17:31):
into like a Pandora's box, because I promise you, if
Kawi is asking for this stuff, there's no way it's
not asked from other players.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
In my opinion, you're probably right, Like I wouldn't be
surprised if, like you see that with Miami with Lebron
and d Wade.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
You might see it also with.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Like I don't think the Lakers would actually do it,
believe it or not, I feel like, but you could
also see like these potential failed three teams during that time.
But going back to the Kawhi thing like that, what
was crazy about that saga during San Antonio was just
the fact that, like when san Antonio was like, oh yeah,
he's he's good to play, and it and he said no.
(18:13):
And it wasn't like Tom Thibodeau was his coach. It
was Greg Popovich, who's always been a player's guy and
also like is very concerned about the well being of
his players. So like him and his staff saying that
he's good and then him say no, it's it kind
of now raises even more red flags in comparison, just
(18:35):
looking back to that saga.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, no, I I agree with you. I think it's
a it's a I think that's what people will do
if this comes out and is a true thing or
something that that was put out there. I feel like
the ramifications obviously in terms of people getting in trouble,
the Clippers and Kawhi will get in trouble, but I
feel like it'll leave a weirder to And I don't
(18:58):
know why I feel this, but I feel like Kawhi
is gonna get the one that gets the worst, Like
Mark for this, people will be like, oh my gosh, dude,
you know, whereas like Clippers they'll lose picks, they'll they'll
lose you know, money, whatever. It is like, they're gonna
get hit hard, and that wouldn't surprise me. But I
feel like a few years down the line, everyone will
move on. But then, but like Kawhi, if you bring him,
(19:20):
if this is true, and you bring him up years
down the line, this is what people will talk about,
probably more than like, Wow, he went to Toronto and
won them that that ring.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Is he gonna be the new Pete Rose for the NB?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I don't think so. I don't think it would go
that bad, but I think but I think people will
associate him with this this issue more than more than
the on court stuff, which obviously was you know, top
five players in the league at most times. So so
I'm very interested to see where it goes. But you know,
(19:58):
even with him in general, the consistency the availability is
a concern, and now people will look at that and
be like, is the consistency and the availability actually injuries
or was it some side gig you know pushback. I
don't know. I don't know. And that's the part that's
going to be the weirdest part to go back on.
(20:18):
If and whenever we get a ruling on this, and
hopefully I do hope that it's all just smoke and
mirrors and nothing's there and we can just be like
that was a really weird allegation, but man, oh man,
you know there's a lot of smoke here and you
know what, you know how this saying goes, So that
part makes me wonder Yah. So let's talk less allegations
(20:43):
and more of a team that probably will be the
number one team in the East. I feel pretty good
feeling that way. I feel like they probably only really
have one potential a team that could push them out
of that. But I would say the general consensus is
the Knicks are going to be the team in the
East next year. They just added Malcolm Brogden to the team.
(21:05):
It's a one year deal, so very low risk veteran
ball handling. I know there was some conversation about Ben
Simmons earlier this summer. I think most people would agree
to go with Malcolm Brogden over Ben Simmons, which is
a wild thing to be able to say at this point,
especially if you go back a few years. But Brogden's
thirty two. He's a nine year vet shooting a thirty
(21:27):
eight percent from three for a career. Obviously, injuries are
a worry. He's had a bunch of hamstring, knee, foot,
ankle stuff going down just sixty three appearances over the
last two seasons with the Trailblazers and the Wizards. But
to the Knick side of this, this is what the
(21:48):
Knicks needed to do, right, They needed to bolster their depth,
and that this move is just one of many that
really does do that. You know, their core pretty much
stayed intact, and then you add you know, you add
Malcolm brogged In, Jordan Clarkson, Landry Shammitt, you know, a
(22:09):
bunch of these guys to help the next team who
very quick clearly ran out of steam at the end
of the season last year and really the year before that.
It felt like, so I think this is the move
you had to do. The head coaching stuff, I think
it's still debatable. Mike Brown stepping in as the coach fine,
(22:30):
but I don't necessarily feel like that's a massive change
to what you had last year. I feel like you
probably could have could have not done that and still
added these players and we'd feel the same way. So
good for the good, for the good for the Knicks.
I do think they will be the team to beat
in the East next year.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah, I think They're gonna be at least the number
one team in the East. Going into the playoffs, I
don't know if they're gonna come out of the East,
just because that's where you kind of see the depth
come into play. And that was a very shallow team
last season. Now, granted, I feel like part of that
shallowness comes from the way Tom Thibodeau coach, and so
(23:13):
I think that's part of it. But yeah, like Malcolm Brockton,
like we're three years removed from him winning a six
minut Year Award, and like the thing is, yes, you
mentioned his availability, he was also on really bad teams
and I feel like I don't want to use his
stats against him. Like he was still on the Portland
team that just that got rid of Damian Lillard, so
there's still rebuilding. He was on the Wizards last year.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Who are the Wizards and they had just gotten rid
of Kuzma, so they were clearly rebuilding.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, I mean, I mean I feel like they've been
rebuilding for the past What year is the wizardybuilding?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
The Wizards have been rebuilding since we started this podcast.
I think it was twelve years ago. Oh no, really
twelve years ago on this podcast.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
They've rebuilding since they became the Wizards, Like that's when.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
When when was the I'm gonna actually see if chat
Gibt can give you this answer. When was the last
time the Wizards had a winning.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I want to say it was probably it was during
like the Dane era.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
It had to have had They've had to have had
a winning season the last ten years, right.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
I think so. But I think it's like a barely
winding all right.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, twenty seven, twenty eighteen, they were the eighth seed
in the East, forty three and thirty nine. Again I
guess it, check that, but but that sounds like it.
Oh yeah, John Wall Bradley Beal was still there, so
that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, okay, yeah there was something there.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Cool. You made it to the eighth seed in the East.
That's like that tenth seed in the West.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, exactly, Like that's generous. By the way, that tenth seed.
I feel like the move, it's it's a veteran move. Really,
it's nothing. It's not a splashy one, but it's still
I think a key piece to at least help you.
And I think also Mike Brown's system might help get
more longevity out of players instead of like limping to
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the finish line or also just straight up dying because
that's what we kind of just saw him sputter out
towards the end.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
So I like the move.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
It's weird that we had to say that, like, oh,
it's either them or Ben Simmons, because I mean that
Ben Simmons is just it's a frustrating point. Are we
that at that point in the off season now where
we're just like, oh, wait, we're in September now, Hey,
Ben Simmons right now has been putting in at work like.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
That where we're at right now in the off season.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Pretty much pretty much. But but but I also think
it's because he's come out and talked about how he
may retire, which is again a wild thing to see
how far we've come and and I've never seen it
with a player where you can literally go back to
one specific play like that missed layup or under the basket,
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like not shot, attempt to pass out that was that
was the moment that was where everything unconnected for whatever
reason for him or or his career or whatever. It is, like,
it's such a wild thing to be able to go
back and say that that moment, that specific spot caught
on video and the city reacting to you not going
up and taking that shot is is what did it end?
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Kind of?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
I remember a Gatorade commercial to bear with me on
this one. There was a Gatorade commercial where they talked
about like that last half second, and so they show
all these highlight plays, but they altered them to where
they had like the opposite results, like a throw from
and based like a throw from the outfield to the
catcher to get a guy out and the person was
(26:49):
safe or something, and then like oh they someone got
crossed over and they end up falling, and then like
you and then they drank gatorade and then you know,
you get like the spectacular result like Jordan actually making
a shot and all that. I look at that play
as if like it's that commercial where I just think
if they dunk it, what happens to just that whole
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thing where it's like if you just had it in him.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
It's the butterfly effect. Dude. If he did that dunk
and say we win that game? What what? What changes?
There could be so many different like again, it's all
what is at that point? But oh yeah, we we
would be I mean we'd have flying cars at this point,
you know what I mean? Like we'd be, we'd be,
we'd have we'd have condos on Mars. I think we'd be,
(27:38):
we'd be out there. I know aliens are apparently visiting
us with this new medior thing. If anybody wants to
go down that conspiracy theory. Uh but but like, yeah,
he makes that shot, and like my I have a
I have a vacation house on Jupiter.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Apparently, I think if he makes that shot, the Eagles
don't win the next super Bowl, because.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Don't tell that.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
The super Bowls, because the Sixers would win the championship
and the entire city would just burn down. So I
want to say Ben Simmons, thank you for just getting
the yips and therefore saving the city, knowing probably what happened,
knowing real destination style, he saw the disruption, he said,
no camp and he.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Just I can't do that to a whole city. No,
I think honestly, and Kevin probably backed me up on this.
I think if you asked any Philly sports fan, you
could have a you could have a finals championship or
the super Bowl. I promise you ninety two percent of
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them are saying the super Bowl. I'm almost positive about it.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
That's an interesting question, Like I mean, like ranking a
city's fandom.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
It football is just bigger. In general, football is bigger.
So I think that would be the case if I'd
be like the way Phil is, I bet it's super Bowl,
Well it's probably football, then baseball.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Really over at least over the Sixers.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Phillies are so good right now, dude, the city is
buzzing about it, like they are so pumped about this team,
and then it's probably basketball and hockey are real close,
but they would be third and fourth.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
But we have to think of also at that time.
So if let's say.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Baseball, Phillies were, Phillies were big at that point, and
I know the Eagles were what they went the next year.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I think they won the next year. But so you're
if they won the next year, so then you have
a a winless Eagles team, then you also never one yet.
So now you have to ask the question, Yeah, Syterea,
would you rather have an Eagles Super Bowl win or.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
A six I promise, I promise you it's Eagles. I
promise you it's Eagles. I promise I can was guarantee
it's Eagle.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
I'm surprised. I'm kind of surprised because I feel like
the Sixers have a more legacy city. I could be mistaken.
I'm not going to sit here and act like I'm
a Philly fan. I'm just still surprised just to hear that, like, oh, yeah,
they'll take eag cause that was but that two to eight.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
You gotta remember that was the Eagles first one like
that was that was it, That was the city wanting
it bad like.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
And then we discover we have to grease up light
poles and Phillies like like that's.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Gonna stop us.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
You would, yeah, you would have to do that, regardless
of what teams winning at that point, like the Phillies
whatever they clinched, because they're about to be able to
when when the Phillies are about to clinch the the
the NL East, So I'm pretty sure they'll probably have
to grease the polls at that point too, if they
haven't already they have like a nine game lead or
something like that, the Phillies. That people are buzzing, dude,
people are really excited about the Phillies right now, at
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least in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I saw that they won against the Mets.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
I was at work and I saw that like the
Mets put up four in the first like, ooh, this
isn't good. And then I saw somebody post on Twitter,
oh typical Mets loss.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I'm like, oh, they didn't score the rest of the
top the rest of.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, that's about how it goes. Oh. As of Phillies
will clinch the NLS with their magic number reaches zero,
which as of September thirteenth, so today, three more wins.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Three more wins. Alright, three more.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Wins which they could potentially clinch as early as tomorrow
recording this podcast if they sweep the Royals and the
Moment podcast, Yeah, maybe let's go Phillies.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Rice Harbor, uh, Philly Chaks.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Listen, those are those are legit and and and the
other part is the Phillisoft pretzels are are o a thing.
So Bradley Cooper, Dude, I when I went back home
to Jersey, I got some Northern pizza for the first
time in forever. And bro, when I tell you I
was missing it, it was, Oh my god. I didn't
realize how much I was missing it. That you take
that first bite of that crunch, You're like, oh lord,
(31:56):
this is Florida. Ain't got nothing on Northern Pizza. I
don't know what it is, man, I'm just putting it
out there. But let's let's let's hurry along here and
get into ballin and Fallin'.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
It is time for Who's Ballin' and Who's Falling on
the Drive and Dish podcast.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
So we'll start with ball and Chase. I'll let you
go first. What is your ball in today?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Magic? Euroball or Magic?
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Yes, If I'm going to do a podcast with noted
magic hater Justin Kuzart, I have to throw in the
magic support somehow. Right now, a bunch of players from
the Atlanta Magic are playing Euroball right now. Franz Wagner's
been having over twenty points the last three games. Tristan's
z Silva put up in big points against Great Britain.
They both have Germany in the finals right now against Turkey.
Depending on when this goes live, that game is Sunday. Also,
(32:45):
Gogobatase up helping out the Georgian team, putting up twenty
points somehow discovering a three point shot.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I don't you want that? Yeah? You want to?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
And so it's I like the Euroball games just because
it it kind of keeps both the players healthy and
also like kind of in shape going into the season.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But it's been nice kind of seeing them.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Just like take it, like take charge, like Goga Patase
is one of the best players. And it's kind of
weird saying that because you kind of associate them as
like a role player here, but just seeing them just
like kind of get that edge and build up their confidence.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
I absolutely love it.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
How many more wins will the seventy six Ers have
than the Magic next year?
Speaker 4 (33:26):
That's a good question. How many games does Joelle and
bed have played.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
That's a fair question. That's a fair question because the
Magic forty what were they last year? They were forty
one and forty one. They're fifty five hundred. I think, yeah,
uh so they're forty one and forty one and six
Ers were twenty four and fifty eight.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I mean, like the thing is, like I've always said
that the Sixers team is a good team. They just
get plugged by injuries, the problems they play, and they
are hampered by the availability of Joel embiid yep. And
so at that point, like I think I've I've thrown
it out to you, and I've thrown it out to Kevin.
You know, at what point do you try to move
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on from him? Because you can't. It's not a sustainable
system any now.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
But I don't think that very act so Dan McCain
will be good. I do like the young guys. For
the Sixers, I am genuinely curious as to what I
think next year is going to be a very very
eye opening season for them, especially with how wide open
the East is. Like, I think the Knicks and Caves
will probably be the top two, but Celtics Bucks are
also going to be dealing with injury pump pacers to
(34:33):
injury problem, so that leaves it wide open for the
Magic to potentially pop into that that third spot. I
think if you have a healthy Sixers, you talk about
the Sixers in that three, four, five, six range. But again,
if not, they are down at the thirteen, fourteen to
fifteen range. So it oh Pistons, I should give them
all the credit in the world. They're definitely gonna be
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up there. I don't want to miss that. I think
Pistons will have a better record than the Magic next year.
They'll be close though, there will still be like a
six to seven, but maybe it's like a four five
or a three four type situation in my In my mind,
I think they will. The Pistons and Magic will be
very similar. They're gonna have same trajectory for a while
in my mind, just because they're both young, developing teams
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that are that are looking promising.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
So yes, I think four.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
I think I could still see the Sixers possibly being
like a not playing team, like I think they can
make the playoffs if Joel Embiid at least plays half
the season, So I think you could possibly a five
to six possibly four surprising anyway.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
My ballin's going to Wemby, who is trying to help
the Spurs launch a supporters section. Apparently he got this
idea from Soccer and so what he wants to do
is hold tryouts. Essentially, he's holding like a meeting for
this group. Uh, it's actually happening tomorrow for anybody that
listens in the Spurs area. Wemby and the Spurs are
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looking for some high energy fans who can commit to
it least attending seventy five percent of the team's home
games this season, plus are willing to participate in chance
and rituals while supporting with passion and respect is a
thousand dollars membership to be in this club, but it'll
have discounts and chances to meet special guests. I would
(36:17):
assume that means players and coaches. I don't know who
the hell else it's gonna be. The group's gonna vote
on its own name. So I like this idea. I do.
I really do think this is a fun idea. I
don't think you should let the group vote on its
own name only because if you're the Spurs, you could
sponsor this thing. And I'm telling you right now, if
you don't call this section the Wembassy, I'm gonna be upset. Ooh.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
I like that because originally I initially thought like webin Rama.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Uh yeah, the Wembassy the corner, it's the Wembassy, especially
if Wemby's like behind it, he's the future of the team.
The other thing you could call it is like the
Stretch Zone just because Wemby's so big. Go get it
sponsored by Stretch Labs and now you're making money on
top of it, and maybe you can make the membership
seven fifty for this season or something. But I'm telling you,
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the Wembassy is like, let's get on that right now,
Wembassy for the spurs right behind the basket. They'll have
chance and stuff to distract the free throw shooters. It'll
be great. It'll be a whole thing.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Yeah, I had got nothing after Wembassy. I feel like
Wembassy is like that's the top tier because but the
thing is, every time you have voting, it's going to
be like Wemby wick men Wey.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You can't let them pick.
You can't let them pick. You could also go like
Planet Wemby. If you're going with the Wemby Angle, the
Wemby Wall, the the Wemby's watch tower, like, you can
do something like that, you know what I mean. Spur
Squad probably also makes sense. A case Webby is not
the way you want to focus on Coyote Crew, because
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I think Coyote is there, the mascot, the Alamo Army, like,
you know, you could get some you can get some
stuff going.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
I feel like because I know that he's kind of
embraced the whole alien aspect. But I feel like right
now we probably talking about aliens.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Listen, Oh, we should be talking about aliens. We're about
to get visited. I'm just saying planet Wemby the alien Alliance.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
That's not where I was going, especially when you're in Texas.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Okay, fair enough, the Eiffel Tower, Wemby is Wonderland. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
What you just gonna have like an animatronic Wemby, just
like what was.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
In the corner, waving his hand on it, swag.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Bag East children.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Oh well, right, well that took its turn. But either way,
that's that's that's our the ball and portion of this.
So let's take a sadder turn. I guess my falling's
go into Jason Collins came out as having to undergo
a brain tumor. His family posted that on Thursday's going
treatment for a brain tumor. That's a bummer. He was
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the first openly gay player, and he is an ambassador
for the league now. I believe he retired in twenty fourteen,
thirteen years the NBA had stints with the Nets, Grizzlies, Timberwolves, Atlanta, Boston, Washington.
I believe he lives in Brooklyn now as well, So,
you know, wishing him the best in that recovery. But
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a bummer to hear and not fun news to have to,
you know, talk about.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Yeah, it's really sad. Hopefully he gets better. My fall
in on a different note is Adam Silver. Now, when
asked about how expensive it is to not only go
to an NBA game, but to watch the NBA because
of all the stream platforms it's on now yep, Peacock
(39:38):
Prime and ESPN, like ESMA their own stream platform, he said, well,
you started by saying we're going to be essentially exposed
and exposed on broadcast television to seventy five. Now he's
talking about like measurements and all that. Sure, and so
I and he adds, I mean to you can add
like rabbit Ears and you can still get seventy five
(39:58):
Marquee games and essentially free for the marketplace. I'd say,
in addition to that, there's an ongoing issue for the league.
There's a humount of our content that essentially can consume
for free. I mean, it's very much a highlights based sport.
And I feel like it was a very disingenuous answer
(40:18):
because of the fact that, like before, you didn't need
to you really essentially didn't need to get like spend
any money. You mean, you could have gotten Rabbit Ears
and you could have gotten on NBC you could have
gotten it on. Yeah, well the tn T I think
was still like a little uh you had to get
like a cable box. But then okay, so you had
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to get a cable box which had ESPN, T and
T and then you had no problem. And then you
had also the local broadcast channels. Now it's costing more
money essentially to watch this.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
I feel like it's happening across the board with sports
in general, like we're seeing.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Yeah, but like as the the NBA has been any
very good progressive league, like the NFL hasn't, doesn't really
deal with that as much because they're still on Fox
NBC and.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
The Thursday, the Thursday night games that's Amazon, and that's
where people gave them pushback. I know that there was
a Jags playoff game that was on Peacock and I
remember that was a big deal at one point. But yeah, no,
I I agree with you, uh Siver Si get out
of here with your poor people thoughts.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Yeah, essentially, And I hate highlights space because it's the
fact that like there's a clip going around on Twitter
that's like, oh, Darvin Ham was a real baller, Like
no he is that.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
I mean, I would say more than I would say baseball,
more than basketball is a highlights space. I could watch
a TikTok reel of a Phillies game and get the
gist of what happened.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Yeah, especially like it's so like you don't get a
lot with highlights when it comes to that, like you
don't understand flow, like you're better off just reading a
box score.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
But even still, like box scores can be.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Misleading, very much so, especially now that team stats are
going to be impacted by half hees. No, I I
agree with you. I don't know how you fix it.
I think this is the way things are going, and
teams are just gonna experiment with this, or leagues are
gonna experiment with this because people are leaning into the
streaming world more and more in cables, becoming less and
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less every day. Like I think it's just gonna be
a necessary evil. And you know, maybe it gets to
a point where it is a pay per game type
situation and I hate that. But but we'll see. You know,
you're just gonna have to wait and see where this
road travels, because again, like you said, I think NBA, NFL, MLB,
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everybody's looking into it and figuring out what this new
world in digital is essentially, So we've got I would
give us twelve minutes, all right at most to to
to to house this immaculate grid. All right, So I'm
gonna share it with you. I think we can get
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it done because it's a lot of stats, and that
means we have a lot of guys to work with.
And it's a seventy six ers category. So if I
don't get this, I should have my fandom revoked. So
here we are reading it across the board from left
to right. We got seventy six ers. We got one
block per game in a season, and then the one
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right next to it, one steal per game in a season.
And then going down the square, we've got Lakers, we've
got Bulls, and we got first round draft pick. So Chase,
I'll uh, Kevin usually throws it to me, so I'll
throw it to you. As to where you would like
to potentially start this process.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
I mean easily, I could go seventy six ers, first
round draft pick.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
You could just go bend down the line.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
We probably should do it, just out of like respect
for his career.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Yeah, I know it's not exactly the most stellar answer,
but like right now.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
It was ten percent, though it's still not.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Who forget Like, yes, we're at now.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, people are definitely forgetting about him. Yes, okay, uh
Kyle korver.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Vouch uhh yeah, the chair, I forgot about that.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
I'm trying to think. I know there's others, and I
think that Eeus Young ended up with the Bulls Uh? Oh,
who was what's his name he played with? He played
with Jordan's uh foreigner, and then he went to the Sixers.
He was in the documentary too, Oh my god, I
should remember his name?
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Forget.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah, either way, we've got options there.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
M hm. I'm trying to think of like seventy six
ers Lakers.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
What's his name? The guy the the the well. He
never actually played a game for us, so it wouldn't work.
At the center he heard his knee bowling. Oh yeah,
the man to buy him? That was what?
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Yeah, that was what the think like, I don't know
if they're gonna count that.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Dwight Howard would for sure work. I know there's another one.
Lou didn't play. Did Luke play for the Lakers? Lou
will Swaggy Pee We gotta go Swaggy Peck Young?
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Yeah, Nick Young, No, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Nick Young, Swaggy Pete.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
I feel like the first round, first round draft pick,
I'm pretty sure you could ease for one block. You
could easily just go Dwight Howard.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Oh yeah, Dwight would be easy. One. Yeah, Dwight would
definitely work. I'm debating if Alfred Peyton was a first
round pick and if he had one steel per game
per season, I feel like he should.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
If you want to, like I'll say this as a
Magic fan, if you want to live by the Peyton
and die by the Peyton.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Right on it, you man, we we we always live
and die by the Peyton. I am just not very
confident that he has a steal pertain. I want to
do it. I just don't want to tank our. I
don't want to tank our. You don't want to you
don't have I do want to heave. Let's put it
on the team stats. Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Let's do uh Elfred Peyton?
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Oh my god? Please?
Speaker 2 (46:33):
No?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Oh wait, I didn't click it. Okay, okay, yes, oh
my god? Point zero two. Let's go Elfred Peyton. I
gotta look that up. How many steals does he have?
Let me? Let me okay, while you do that think
of a bull for one block and one steal. I
feel like Jordan probably works for both.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Yeah, I feel like Jordan. I'm trying to think of
joke him. Noah is what about.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
What's his name? The three point shooter? Oh? What was
his name? Started with an eh?
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (47:13):
I bet i bet uh I bet Derek Rose probably
works for either of those.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Or a steel. Maybe I don't know about block.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Let's do Rose for a steel.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
Sounds like we're on Hollywood squares. I'll do Derek Rose
for the steal?
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Oh I said already used that freaked me out. Dude,
that delay freaked me out. I was like, no way,
he didn't have a steal joking Noah. Carlos Boozer, Oh,
Boozer might be the one.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
I think.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
What's going on with this? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
I'm getting so if you can't see it on the YouTube,
my page is constantly all of the ads that are coming.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
In it is dude, Boozer doesn't have a block per game?
What hold on? Hold on, I gotta look that up.
Carlos Boozer.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
If it's joking Noah, I'm going.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Well, it's Noah has to have a block, no Boozer
never had a block per game in his whole career
for a season. Really, the closest was Cleveland in his
second year he had point seven.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
How the hell did we get from?
Speaker 4 (48:34):
Like, oh yeah, Elford Peyton, that might be that's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
I'm too scared, but Boo.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Boozer was not a shit. Well, now we just got
to do Dennis Rodman to like be safe.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Well, Rodman was more rebounds. I don't know if he
was more blocks.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
You don't think he just has a block per game
out of being down there? He probably I mean or joking, No,
I'd rather go Rodman over Noah.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah, I'd rather go Brodman.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
I'm gonna be so upset.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
Oh my god, he was more rebounds, right, I still gotta.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Be a a bly is a block per game that
I didn't realize that was not a thing that just
everybody got pretty much.
Speaker 4 (49:20):
I'm just gonna look up because I know I'm eating,
but whatever, I'm gonna look up.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Joke him.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
Noah, Dennis, I'm surprised that Rodman did.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Oh my gosh, was that right about?
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Joke?
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Ym? Noah?
Speaker 1 (49:35):
No, I didn't look he had. Rodman had point nine
for Detroit in ninety one ninety two. But he never
had an average of a block per game.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
Uh joke Kim Noah his second season one point four,
then one point six, one point five.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
One point alright.
Speaker 4 (49:51):
All the band did was block, And so I just
need to have more confidence in my probably listening to
this having an aneurysms.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
As if the.
Speaker 4 (50:04):
Eagles Sixers debate wasn't an aneurysm enough, this may have
driven him to death.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
I am so upset. I am so upset.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
Oh yeah, me too, that I should have just I
should have been more demanding and said, oh yeah, joke him.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Noah, I mean I I ah, Oh my gosh, dude.
All right, well, do you have anybody specific you'd like
to go? Sixers Bulls just to just to get yo booch.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
I want to see that percentage.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
I spell it V you see you see, Yeah, there is.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
That's all you need to know.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
People do forget he was on the Sixers. I was
so mad when they traded him to Orlando.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
I liked him. I liked it when they traded him.
I know that people don't like they like to make
fun of that trade, but I was happy when we
got him.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
So would you rather go Lakers one block or Lakers
one steal? To finish it off here, as we are
going to have an imperfect board cares anymore? Well, who
do we think is going to be less because block?
I obviously go shack. That's an easy one steals. I
bet Kobe has it.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Does have a one steal again?
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Now see now we're going to try to get too
fancy with it. We just gotta get We gotta at
least fill one more square. Paul Gasol probably.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
Yeah, Paul's probably got a block. Andrew Biden's probably got
a block.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
Do you think Josh Hart had it while he was there?
I don't know for what? For what? For steel? For block?
How does he spelled that?
Speaker 4 (51:50):
A d.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
There he is? Oh, he's the first one popped up
for steel? Right or block? Which one? Did I click?
Click the right one? Okay? Yeah, there we go. Yeah, bummer, dude, bummer, bummer, bummer.
That's a bummer. All right. So to tell you where
we were, if I could get it to click off,
everything's frozen. Now there we go. Uh, we can keep
(52:13):
guessing if we won to uh to wrap it up
here Lakers sixers, we went swaggy p Lakers one block.
We went Vladi Devoc because we stink. We didn't get
to fill out one steal per game in Lakers. Uh
Sixers Bulls. We went with Vooch Bulls one block. We
(52:35):
were stumped twice, which is why we were in the
situation we are in joking. Noah worked, and I'm upset.
Speaker 3 (52:42):
You'd be fair.
Speaker 4 (52:43):
I was the first guest was Joe Kim Noah. I
did not want to be a disrespectful guest.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Oh, we should have went with it, uh Bulls one
steal per game. We went with Derek Rose, seventy six
ers first round pick, Ben Simmons, first round draft pick,
one block, Dhite Howard, first round draft pick, one steal
per game, Alfred Payton at a point one percent. Our
guests jumped it up to a point one. It was
(53:10):
a point zero two. I'm wondering if it'll actually show us.
It doesn't look like it's gonna show me the WHOA.
I don't want to see Derek Rose stats. I'm wondering
if it'll show me the summary where I can talk
about the most popular answers, because it usually does that.
But it doesn't look like it's uh oh, here we
go no, thanks, maybe later see it will give me
the give me the Oh my gosh, you're right. This
(53:32):
refresh is crazy. Twenty eight options at one block per game. Wow,
Alex Caruso worse. I am so upset, Robin Lopez, Taj Gibson,
Joe Keem, Noah, Paul Gassall even works, Omar Asikh. That's
(53:54):
a good one. Wow, Ben Wallace, Drew Gooden, Tyris Jones,
Tyson Chandler. I am getting more upset as we go.
All right, I'm gonna stop talking about it now. Oh yeah,
popular Answers seventy six ers, Lakers, Will Chamberlain, Lakers one
block shack, which is what we talked about. So I'm
(54:16):
glad we didn't go with that one. Lakers one steal
was Kobe Bulls seventy Did I even say Jimmy Butler
because that's crazy, because I don't think I did.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
No, we didn't say Jimmy Butler for six Ers love.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Oh wow, Bulls one block per game, Joe Keem Noah
as they rub it in it even more, Bulls one
steal per game, Michael Jordan, seventy six ers first round pick,
Joel Embiid first round pick, one block, keem first Round,
Pick one steal. Chris Paul wraps up an episode here
on the Driving Dish NBA podcast.
Speaker 4 (54:49):
If you take anything from this episode that you should
go with you more often.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
So annoying dude Alex caruso oh has one block per game,
but Carlos Boozer didn't. That's how the episode ends, right there.
I'm done. I think we've done a lot of dancers
for today, so why don't we dance Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
Be a star side?
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Okay, well here, hey, we're all right, all right.
Speaker 4 (55:25):
I think they get the point.
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