FADE to BLACK host: Jimmy Church guest: Stephen Bassett

Tonight, Disclosure Activist Steven Bassett joins us to discuss the film: 'Age of Disclosure'... and the current state of ET Contact within the US Government.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:27):
This Hope Radio for the Masses.

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The game and we changed the game change.

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I occasionally think how quickly our difference is worldwide would
vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside
this work.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
This day to Black, it's your host, Jimmy Church on
the Game Changer Radio Network. All right, good evening, fade
to black. How you doing? How you doing? Happy Thanksgiving? Everyone? Yeah?
You knew I was gonna say that because this is Wednesday,
November twenty sixth, twenty twenty five. It is Green Wednesday. Yeah,

(01:25):
some used to call this Thanksgiving Eve. It's actually Green Wednesday. Yeah.
How you doing? Happy Thanksgiving everybody. I'm in a great mood.
I'm gonna have an amazing day tomorrow, just like all
of you are. I've got one dinner stop and four
stops at some different houses, different friends, delivering wine and

(01:51):
all of that stuff. So it's just gonna be a
fun day. Gonna wear my Harley Santa shirt Thanksgiving, yuta know,
seems appropriate. It seems appropriate and all right. All right,
so we've got a short week this week, an amazing week.
I'm painted black. It's always great around here. It's always busy.

(02:12):
Monday night we had Holly Hall on for the first
time Astrology and Predictions, and what a great show that
turned out to be. Tuesday Night. Last night, Jason Quitt
was here for Quitspiracy fourteen, and tonight it is Stephen Bassett.
There is a new documentary out and it's called The

(02:35):
Age of Disclosure for the Interest of Transparent Transparency. I
haven't seen the film. I haven't seen the film. I
will get around to it. I don't know if you have,
and you can certainly let it. Let us know in
the chat if you have seen this new documentary, and

(02:59):
there you go. I'm sure that Steven has. We're going
to be talking about that tonight. And what else did
I want to Okay, let's just get straight to it.
My next event coming up will be the Conscious Life Expo.
It is February twenty through the twenty third, twenty twenty
six at the Lax Hilton. I have hosted this event

(03:20):
now for twelve years. I think this is my thirteenth year.
It is at the Lax Hilton. The links for that
are below. It's always great fun, kids, it's a great fun.
Probably fifteen twenty thousand attendees. And I know these numbers
get thrown around and you know, and just like like

(03:41):
they're not no, it's it's a pretty big conference. And
there's probably ten thousand people in that vendor hall alone, halls,
I should say, downstairs, all right, So there you go.
That is what's going on. I wanted to share this
before ring Steven in. It is. It is Thanksgiving. I

(04:04):
have a lot to be thinkabulefore. But I had one
of the funniest and craziest things happened to me today.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
And there's a first for everything and for me to
get a first time and and it happened. All right,
I'm out running some marriage today and I pull up
I'm going to turn left of this stoplight. There's a
car in front of me, a small car like a
Honda or something Nissan, and and they were in front

(04:37):
of me, and then they and as I pull started
to slow down, they were slowing down before they needed
to stop. And there was a sticker in the back
window on just above the trunk right in the middle.
The sticker pretty big, and the sticker catches my eye
and I look at it and it is a silly

(05:00):
wet of like a stripper with her leg up in
the air. You know, you know, you see, you know
what I'm talking about. So there's that underneath it. It says,
don't get too close. I'm chubby. Right. It's like the

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strangest sticker I've ever seen. Okay, all right, and now
that sticker is there for a reason. It gets you thinking.
I'm thinking. And then the car changes lanes and gets
out of the left hand turn lane and goes is
going straight. So now I pull up next to this

(05:44):
car and I'm like, okay, I got to see the
chunky drive it. I just want to know who would
put that sticker on the back window. And I pull
up and I look and she's already looking at me
like this, let me change cameras. She's like this, a

(06:09):
little old lady, and she goes just like I was like.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
What And she had to have been eighty that can't
see over the dashboard holding on to the wad, and
she knew I was gonna look at her.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
I'm wondering if the lame change was on purpose, so
she would slow down so I would read it, and
then she pulled over and then I pulled up because
she was ready. Man, she was like what And I
just laughed. I laughed so hard. And that just made
my day. I would have done anything to have just

(06:53):
followed her and and and it spoke to her said
something because that was really really cool. So that was
my happy Thanksgiving a treat today. It was. It was
absolutely cool. It was the coolest, all right, So I
thought i'd share that with you. Let's let's get this
rockin tonight. We have Steven Bassett. P RG is here.

(07:18):
He's back. We have Steve on the show all the time,
and we're gonna be talking about the film. It's called
The Age of Disclosure. I guess it's on Amazon, right,
so you can go and check it out there. And
I'm gonna pop this back over to the chat. Have
you guys seen the documentary and what did you think

(07:41):
of it? We'll get to that in a second when
I get a chance to get back to the chat.
Of course, he is he is. How do I define Steve?
I would say Steve, Steve is an activist. I'm just
in that's a broad term. But he's an activist and

(08:03):
he has been at this for a long time, a disclosure,
the truth about UFOs and making this happen. Of course,
he has talked about the truth embargo for many many
years on the show and defined it very clearly and tonight,
so we're going to We're going to go deep into

(08:25):
where we are right now with the disclosure. We've got
this new film out and I heard the other day.
I'm pretty sure it's this film. I'll ask Steve about this.
I heard. I think it was yesterday. I got an
email that it was number one on Amazon. I think

(08:50):
it was number one. Pretty sure it was this film
number one on Amazon. I don't know if it still is,
but it hit that number apparently, and that's pretty incredible.
And I always appreciate when this is getting out beyond
our community. That's the most important step. I would like
to welcome back to Fate to black and one and

(09:11):
only Steven Bassett and Steve Welcome. Happy Thanksgiving. Same to you, sir.
Don't be too excited, it's Thanksgiving. Man. Smile once in
a while, Steve, See you know what I almost said.
Steve is an activist and he's angry he's pushing for
disclosure and he will never give up. And then you

(09:32):
come on this, that's that's that's Steve, that's Steve.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
No, man, I'm listening to your setup and I'm in
my mind, I'm imagining this.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
You know, reports came in.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Today that noted talk show host Jimmy Church is pulled
over by the police for stalking an elderly No.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
I know, I know Holland for like thirty five miles.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
He's winking at her and I'm going, oh, that's not
good man.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
It was the craziest thing. I mean, seriously, I know
I did did, Okay, So now we have to actually
go back in the set up for her. When did
she see that sticker? When did she get it? And

(10:19):
how did she put it on that window? Did she
walk outside? I can't wait up with those my car,
you know what I mean? And just that ah or
is it her daughter's car? You know, I thought about
that when I was. I was maybe it's.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Not her car.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
I don't know. It was bizarre, man, it was great.
I smiled. I smiled so much. She did though. Man,
she gave me the I'm sure she's leading her best life. Yeah, man,
I'm telling you right now it was it was super
super cool. Where are you at these days? Are you
back in DC? This is Washington, d C.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
In my office two blocks in the White House. Things
are happening every day around here. It's always interesting. You
wake up one day and the East Wing's gone and
your I thought I saw that yesterday, wasn't there.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
You know what's crazy. I don't do politics on the show.
I don't hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
let me finish, Steve, Steve, let me finish. I don't
take the orange bait. I don't really give a crap.
I do I care about this country. But as far
as the madness that is going on, I just don't

(11:23):
give a shit. It's it's the same thing for another
four years and whatever. And it's always been that way.
It's never going to change. But that being said, the
East Wing, and this is not a political statement. Building
stuff takes time, Okay, true, There is no way who

(11:45):
the next president that gets elected, that goes into the
White House is going to have dirt next to it
that they ain't getting done in two years. No, No,
it's not, it's not. It's not simply you can't build
you can't build. Uh, you can't put paving stones in

(12:07):
your backyard in two years. Okay, so.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Remember this, you're if you're the president, you could probably
get him in a couple of months. And I wouldn't underestimate.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
It ain't gonna happen. It ain't gonna happen. You know.
You know what's funny. They say a wise man once
said never say never. Right now I'm saying never. It
is not. It is not. Oh man ah, oh yeah,

(12:39):
it's just it's nothing.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
It's nothing. Look, I tell you what goes around here.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
You brought it up.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
I did bring it up because I thought it was funny.
I'm just trying to keep up with you, Jimmy. Now
let's let's get serious here.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Okay, what was a serious face?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Okay, So what's going on right now is in the
overall sense, we're literally finally and I'm really serious this time,
we're seeing the collapse of the truth embargo. We're literally
seeing a collapse in real time. It's taken a long
time to get to this. It's like one of those
when you you know, you take down one of those buildings,
you got those little things going off. You know, he's

(13:14):
taking the studs are taken out of them, and it
takes a while and then finally bloom, Well it took
eighty years to get those things out. Now this building
is coming down. There's a lot of reasons for that,
but certainly the age of disclosure is maybe the plunger
that set off the rest of the you're speaking, you're.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Speaking about the movie when you say the documentary, Okay,
have you seen it? Oh? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:41):
For those that want to really appreciate what happened, you
want to first watch Bill Maher interview Dan Farrer on
his Real Time with Bill Maher, all right, which was
like not that not that long before the film aired.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
So it's like a nice promo and you got Dan
is director writer. How do you say his name Dan Farah?
It's not it's not Farah, Farah? Is Itara?

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Nobody's corrected me up. But if it's far I'm happy
to I'm happy to take a right turn. So okay, worked, well,
you should have them on absolutely.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Dar Okay, hold on, okay, let's let's stay. I don't
want to get you off your your thought process. So
you've seen the film, and.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
It's a milestone, it's it is it is like, it's like,
what what we needed to finally break the glass door
get through? We've been waiting all these years for this?
Why is it a milestone? There have been hundreds of
documentaries about this subject that they've been done by citizen
documentaries documentarians. Uh, not a lot of money, not a

(14:50):
lot of you know, staff or anything.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
You know.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
They use the new software in the tech and they
make it up on their computer. They interview some people
and they get them out there. Not that bad, but
they don't take us where this takes us. This is
what we've been waiting for. What I went to Hollywood
about four years ago to try to get something going
blew up. This is the first documentary made by a
professional Hollywood essentially producer, creator. So he's writer director on

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his film. But Mandy was Hill's film. He's been on
it for three years, right, So it has all the
bells and whistles, it has you know, he has a manager,
he has he has a manager, he has agents, he
has contacts.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Wait, I missed the name who Dan Pharah? Is that
who you're talking? That's right?

Speaker 2 (15:35):
He is the one is behind this movie in almost
every way. Okay, And so he ties up with Lewis Alessando, right,
who provides the connection to a lot of people who
then he brings them in and they start bringing them in.
When you bring in a few others that are willing
to come in, and before you know it, they assemble.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Thirty four actually is more than that. In the film.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Thirty four easily the highest assembly, the greatest assemblage of
people of rank and station ever assembly to one place
on a dock to speak to this issue. Nothing even
comes close, all the way from military intelligence people, seven
sitting members of Congress, a Secretary of State, and so forth.

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Never happened before they put these interviews together over about
three years.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
They keep it very quiet. Right.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Finally they do what films normally do in the Hollywood setting,
and that is they get take it to a major
film festival south by Southwest, number two in the country,
I believe in size, They air it, get a little feedback,
and then I suppose they move around to market. It
takes about a year and they finally make the decision
of which way he's going to go, and the way

(16:43):
he chose to go was and this is by the way,
his film. He did not go to studios on this
he did it himself, so he has access to studios.
He's done, he's been involved in major productions. He didn't
want the studios to beat a position to be able
to say, well, you know, you don't want to go there,
maybe you don't want.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
To do that.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
And so he puts out a trailer that starts generating
a lot of media coverage, a lot of articles. It starts,
it gets in uh, it gets in a deadline, he
gets in Variety, gets in Hollywood Reporter, all of that
stuff leading up to the announcement of its going to premiere.
He premieres it in three theaters in three different cities,
New York, Los Angeles, Washington, DC, and those theaters which

(17:24):
are a cool little group of theaters called Angelica pop Ups,
really coolest, going back in time, really nice, kind of fun.
Love him right, gonna go. And because he did that
the way he did, he made the film eligible for
an Oscar nomination, the first documentary on this field to
ever be in a position to get an Oscar nomination.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Okay, don't get ahead of your skis there, Steve, don't
get ahead of your sie Uh. Never talk Oscar and
Jinx of film, just never, never, do that. So but
that that being said, I love the setup for this
the the film itself. How new does it get because

(18:05):
it was shot and produced and made three years ago
and here we are today in twenty twenty five. Did
they edit extra stuff in that was recent? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
It would be impossible to tell. But of course the
film may have started three years ago, but it's only
been about a year since the south By Southwest Film Festival.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
So is it a little dated? Not much? Not much?
And I think they may have added some new stuff.
I think they did. But the point is is that.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
This film isn't about getting new stuff out. And I
hear this all the time, and we've got they're the
debunkers and the skeptics online, which is where it's all
at now x.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
I mean, there are millions of them. They're having a ball,
having fun.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
The principal complaint is I don't see anything new, So
what's the point of this? And what they forget? Is
it ninety or more of the people in this country
don't know this, There are any of this. Really, They
got an idea, they've heard some things, and so they
need to know it too, right, And so it's about
serving the country and whole, not just the people that

(19:10):
have been following it, but the most important thing that
people are not getting about what's happening right now, including
this film, the hearings, and everything else. It's not about
getting all the stuff out to you that you didn't know.
It's not about bringing this out, hey, look at this,
bring this in, going to show you all this stuff,
put it under oath. It's never been about that, And
that's why people get so uptight, and they got the

(19:32):
cognitive dissonance. They're complaining and bitching because they got it wrong.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Actually, well, but see, I always put myself in the
position of the way somebody else is thinking, that's what
I do before I certainly say the wrong thing. But
the reason why you hear that so often from them
is because that is what they want. They are so

(19:58):
invested in this and so researched into it that they
are thirsty and hungry for new information. So you can't
dismiss somebody for wanting that. That is a very, very
very valid position. The other position, the other position of

(20:20):
this saying, which I agree with, is the rest of
the world needs to know this. The rest of the
world is learning this is baby steps for them, and
they need to engage and get into this the proper way,
and that's a great way to do it. It's very
hard to strike that balance of making everybody happy. You

(20:44):
just can't do it. But somebody that wants new information
that is a valid, absolute, valid position to be in.
Would I watch this film? You know, I might get
around to it if I'm not going to learn something
from it, or you know, see see an amazing moment

(21:05):
that I wasn't familiar with her didn't know about. Then ah,
you know, so I get that. I totally get that,
And we'll let the infighting go on and let the
critics do their thing. You're never going to make everybody happy,
but I certainly try to look at both sides. That's all. Well,
you know, let me I didn't really say this.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Well all right, Look, the small point is that there
are plenty of people that don't know these things and
they'll benefit from it. But that's not the key point.
The key point is what it was about to make
all right. All of this is not about getting this
getting more and more stuff out so we can learn
all about what's happened. No, no way, everything that you've
been seeing happening is about something else.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
This is all.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Setting up the platform and the scaffolding for the president
to be able to come out on it and disclose
and end this truth embargo, all right, And in order
for that to happen, the presidents can't do it in
a while, a moment one day. You've got to have
things in place to do it responsibly. And they have
put almost everything in place. Legislation, three acts, one still

(22:09):
halfway done, that's been resubmitted three times, the major acts
still in play, three big hearing, six briefings, all in
the Congress, right, witnesses coming for it under oath. You've
got a huge amount of media coverage during all this period,
which goes all the way back to two seventeen, but
it's beeding up. You've had plenty of witnesses testify in
private to members of Congress. You've got members of Congress

(22:30):
going on camera and saying, right, yeah, there's ets here, Right,
we've got this, We've got that, we want the truth.
You've got a task force that's been set up, Right,
why are they doing all that? It's the reason they're
doing it is so to set up the structure so
the president can come out, make a disclosure announcement, and
every you're going to go yeah, everybody will go yeah, okay, yeah, sure,

(22:53):
why didn't you do it sooner? That is what it's about.
And so in order to do it responsibly, they're not
going to break any security clearances, they're not going to
break any laws. They're not going to ruin their life.
If they can't say something, they'll say so, it has
to be in a skiff, they'll say so. But every
time they do that, people say, what what, don't use
that skiff stuff.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
We want to know what it is. We want to
know what it is.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Right now, the stuff that's being written is going through DOBSR,
so that things are taking out. They're doing a responsible
process that does bring out some information that a lot
of the people would know. But the people that are
really in the issue going I know that, but it's
bringing it out under oath in Congress, any hearing. This
is the structure they're building, and they are basically done.

(23:35):
The only thing that is still needed.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Well, you want to be real quick, who is they?

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Let's just say that they in this case includes all
those that have a stake in this Members of Congress,
Chairmans of committees, obviously, the witnesses and certain elements within
the Department Offense at elsewhere that are fundamentally behind getting
this out, all right. And the journalists, Okay, they're doing

(24:04):
their job, right. The witnesses are doing their job, so
they is pretty much everyone that is servicing what you've
been seeing happening, right, the hearings, the witnesses coming forward,
the big media coverage, the legislative process which has been
intense but has been moving forward. The only thing that
really is missing in this platform that we need is

(24:26):
the completion of the full UAP Disclosure Act, all right,
which is going to come back again really soon. It's
been resubmitted three times. But the fact is we don't
even need that. We have enough, which means what it
means that as of now it took eighty years. Oh
and by the way, we needed that film. Okay, that
film is key, all right, because as we're moving towards

(24:48):
just about wrapping this up, outcomes a movie with thirty
four people testifying to just about everything to the limits
that they're allowed, and it pretty much covers it all.
If you want to say that all of these people
are lying and they're part of some psyop or something
including the Secretary of State, the military people, admirals, the
whole nine yards. Fine, but that's unfortunately delusional. So this

(25:13):
really powers this thing. Plus it's going to generate massive viewership.
The interview that he gave on mar it's going to
be seen by millions of people. It's going to go
on Netflix. Mars show Real Time with Bill Maher is
the highest total viewed show on Netflix, okay. And then
they do the after show for online it's called Overtime

(25:35):
ten minutes. Dan is on that saying a couple of things.
That goes up on the Real Time YouTube channel with
two point three million subscribers. If you look at some
of the other cuts of Overtime and New Rules on that,
they get up to twenty five thirty five million views, okay,
And so that alone guaranteed endless views of that interview.

(25:58):
That's just going to drive sales and bring the issue out.
He does the film, puts it out, and then within
a couple of days he goes where he goes on
Rogan for two hours, the same Rogan that helped elect
the president, the same Rogan that Ala Paulina went on
just about a couple of months ago for two hours
talking about what she's talking about UAP's UFOs. This is

(26:18):
not an accident. This is a relatively orchestrated process of
which Dan Harris playing a part and his way and
the part that he's playing is huge, So he is
going to be really pushing this issue. We're going to
get all kinds of media coverage of this, of this documentary,
and people are going to keep watching it, which again
helps to set the stage for the president, which brings

(26:40):
me to this in Dewie.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Let me ask you this really quick, because of the
timing of things. Do we push from when I say
we and they us right, the world, the UFO community,
the media, everything else. Do we push for disclosure now
while we have a weak administration that's in chaos, before
the next administration that comes in that's going to have

(27:04):
other stuff on their plate and disclosure may not be
out in front. Do we do it now when the
when we have a weak administration and it's just chaotic.
I think that's a good idem. Yeah, yeah, we do
it now?

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I mean may not even have to push. There are
about a dozen things that comes out in that documentary
which are very significant and when you watch it. People
will pick up on it. There's already been some YouTube
videos on x about this. They're bringing it out. But
one of them, okay, which I had not heard, was
that in the early days of the George W. Bush administration,

(27:40):
several people were in the White House talking to him
about doing it, about disclosing. It was being kicked around.
They were taking pros and they were taking cons. Now
we don't we know that he didn't do that. Now,
that may have been because they decided not to, or
that they were still considering it when nine to one
one happened later that year. But he didn't happen. But

(28:01):
what we got confirmed in that movie the millions of people,
is that they were discussing George W. Bush disclosing in
two thousand and one. And then another part of the
film they talk about the fact that there was someone
discussing that with the president President Trump about disclosing. It
came up in the first term, right, and since then

(28:22):
there has been in a way, incident after incident after
incident confirming that this thing is alive and well in
the White House very quickly, all right, and this is powerful.
One five days before the inauguration, his son Don Junior
on his triggered podcast, got a lot of subscribers there.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
What does he do?

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Five days for his father's going to be inaugurated? He
brings in Louis Alsando and Colthart to talk about the
issue for two hours.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
No accident.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Five months into the administration, what happens? Jd Vance goes
on the Ruthless podcast.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
What does he say? I'm obsessed with UFOs, he's the
vice president. No accident.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
And then just shortly after that, Tulca Gilbert Gabbert, Director
of National Security, I mean the Director National Intelligence. He
goes on another podcast I think it was Podforce one
and starts talking about the issue.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
No accident.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
And then just a week or so after that, I
mean anapoline A Luna, the head of the task force
did class secrets, chairman of one of the of the
chair which she chaired one of the hearings, major player,
very vocal, she goes on Rogan for two solid hours
and talks about the issue. And then not too long
before the film comes out. Jd Vance goes back on

(29:35):
pod Podforce one, another podcast and repeats that he's really
into this issue, and just happens to mention that his
very close friend, Marco Rubio had a nationality. He's national
security advisor at Secretary of State. He is really into
the issue. Not too many days later he shows up
as a major player in this documentary No accident.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, I hear all of that. I do, I do.
I hear all of that, and on the surface, it's exciting.
Then I just back up, and I wonder the vice
president's name is Vance? JD Vance. Don't know the guys.
I wouldn't norm if I saw them, so, but JD

(30:20):
Vance okay, so, and then you mentioned Trump Junior. All right,
Donald Trump. There's a difference between those two and Luna.
Luna understands the subject and is coming at it from
the Trump and JD. Vance and their comments that I've

(30:46):
seen the video clips and everything else. That's it was
a superficial like social media interest and comment on the subject.
It's Luna as a whole. That's a whole her. She
is well researched and is pushing She's the one doing
the hearings, you know, to say that you have an

(31:07):
interest in UFOs, everybody does, you know? And that's that's
my concern with that. And I don't know if it's Uh.
If the community is getting the right message out of that,
that's that's all I want. Somebody that's swinging at the
ball like Luna, you know what I mean, and she's
swinging at that ball, Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
It's not about swinging or not swinging, and it's not
about what's superficial. The very fact that the Vice President
of the United States goes on a podcast that says
I'm I'm deep into UFOs, that is all you need
to know. That has never happened before. Right now, Gilbert,
never happened before. We have had more things happen in

(31:49):
just the last year than in the previous seventy. We
are in territory that's totally unknown. It's like a Star
Trek episode. And so what's important is that they're doing it.
You have people key to the administration talking to the issue,
and it's not like they went on the show and
they decided I think I'll talk about that. When people
like that go on one of these podcasts, what is

(32:09):
going to come up is what they want to come up,
and if they don't want it to come up, it
doesn't happen. That was the same when Hillary and Bill
and Pedesta were going on those talk shows during her campaign.
Those things came up because they wanted him to come up.
Didn't work out like I wanted. So this is demonstrating
that this issue is completely enlive and well in the
White House now. In the interview, just to give you

(32:31):
an idea, I can go on for forty minutes on this,
but I'm gonna keep it sure. In the interview that
Barah has with Joe Rogan, right, he brings up the
fact that the issue is alive in the White House
and he thinks that Trump ought to disclose. What does
Joe say, I agree, I think I'll talk to him

(32:51):
about that. Well, you know something, Joe Rogan could talk
to him about that. That's just a glimpse of all
the stuff we're starting to pick up that is going
on of the fourteen president since Roswell, everyone so far,
including Trump, has refused end this issue. We have learned
now that there have been a couple of serious considerations.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
I left out.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Clinton didn't quite go to what I talked about before,
but Clinton was in play, but he didn't have a
chance of getting out because the DD wouldn't block it.
So that's three presidents where it's been involved didn't happen.
Everything has happened to twenty seventeen, and everybody that's been
involved in that, you know who the players are. They
have worked hard, they have taken chances, whistleblowers have come forward,
they've had death threats, they'd put with a lot, and

(33:36):
that has help us bring us to this point where
now administration is absolutely giving it serious consideration and enough
has been done so that the President goes into the
Hoval office tomorrow sits in front of the resolute desk,
one camera, no press, and says, I've been paying attention,
I've made inquiries, and yeah, we have these vehicles and
we have bodies and they're not from here, and so

(33:58):
I'm confirming what you have heard. Now to go to bed,
and there's gonna be a lot of press conferences in here.
He's coming up where you're going to learn a lot more.
That's disclosure, yep.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
But when I want this so bad for the community
and for people that have seen stuff and have been ridiculed,
can't talk to their husband or their wives because of
the stigment. It's tied to it, right, It just about
I want that so much for the community and for
those I want to stand up. But Stephen, this is

(34:30):
the part where I don't know about you. I'm sixty two.
I've been doing this for fifty years, okay, longer more
than fifty years, and I've had fifty opportunities to say
this is the year. Fifty years, fifty years, fifty times,

(34:51):
this is the year. Now we're in twenty twenty five.
Things are definitely cool, it's exciting. But are we going
to have the same conversation in twenty twenty eight? Are
we going to have the same conversation in twenty twenty
nine and twenty thirty. I've said this so many times.

(35:14):
We've got to keep our foot on the neck of
the man and not ease up. We just can't do it.
We can't get your place. No, I'm not saying you're
saying that. I'm saying the community. I'm speaking to the community.
Don't get comfortable because of a film or statements or
whatever like Okay, we got this. No, everybody, listen to Steve,

(35:36):
listen to me. Keep the pressure on.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
I'm not saying they shouldn't keep the pressure on. There's
plenty happening. You've got the new parent of Missaguve's got
a full disclosure, citizen thing going on, there's organizations being formed,
stuff's happening, new conferences coming up. No, No, the pressure
is not going to go away.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
I would try.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
I would try to make it a little more civil,
were possible, because I think they're trying to get there,
so why irritate them. But let me tell you, I've
been in this for thirty years, and I know that
I've always projected confidence and I've always probably be positive.
I never pick a date. Some people do that big mistake.
I try to project where the probabilities are. Never in
that thirty years. If we've been anywhere close to this,

(36:17):
this is it all right now. The one thing that
could derail it is a major awful thing event pick one.
There's a lot of possibilities. If one of those slams down,
it could be shoved a little bit further, but not
completely off the table. Right now, I'd say the odds
are fair that it might might not happen. But I've

(36:39):
been putting out a message now for nearly twenty five
straight interviews. I've got twenty more scheduled. I'm losing my voice.
The podcast Army has risen, and to my call, great
not that you're the podcast army, but you're pretty big gun.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
And so.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
The one message we're getting across repeatedly, and it kind
of came across with Rogan. I think maybe even Dan
got into this.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
It's this.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
This is the president of the fourteen who has the
personality and the worldview to do it, where the other
ones did not. They had to be pursued, they would
have to been persuaded, and it was easy for the
Department of Defense and others to talk them out of it.
This is not that kind of president.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Now.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Without getting into the pluses and minuses of that, the
point is is that all the work has been done,
the platform is set, and he does not have either
a personal or a political reason not to do it.
Why Because, and I am serious here, if he goes
in that Oval office and ends this truth embargo, it
is a guaranteed Nobel prize. I'm not being funny. I

(37:42):
know about this. As commonly goes, it's kind of cute.
Guaranteed Nobel prize. He will get the accolades coming in
from all over the world. As Dan Farress said, and
I've said countless times, it will be one of the
most important, if the most important act by any head
of state in the history of the human race. Other
heads of state will follow quickly. We may even see

(38:03):
one or two or three of the living presidents back
them up right away. And so those that are going
to say I don't believe a word that just came
out of that man's mouth, a few days later, when
the other heads of state are backing it up, they're
going to realize, my god, he's telling the truth. And
so that is how close we are after eighty years,
when the government absolutely and by the way in the film,

(38:25):
they reinforce over and over again, Roswell was real. Not
that I didn't know that thirty years ago, over and
over again, because it is. It's the beginning of all this.
It's proven absolutely rock solid that's being reinforced. But eighty
years after that event, finally the government is going to yield.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
I believe, I said.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
The President is going to allow the government to do
what it needs to do, which is start bringing this
in this all of this information now, bodies, vehicles, stocked, tech,
I don't care what, under a UAP Disclosure Act and
a congressional led review panel, and we're going to get
it all in a number of years, and then we'll
see where that takes us. I believe it leads to

(39:03):
open contact, but that's another matter. So that's what we
are and I'm just trying to get that message out.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Watch.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Watch the film, Watch the interview with Pharah on Rogan,
watch his interview on mar and then start looking at
the other things that are happening. There have been two
major research developments that you couldn't have imagined thirty five
forty years ago. They just happened in the last year
and a half.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
You want to know what they are.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Of course you did one, okay. The leading person now
that is the leading person is now making the truth
about telepathy valid in the world is Diane Hennessy Powell.
She came out with the telepathy tapes that caught fire.
She's now been at several conferences. The work is holding
up virtually. She is going to confirm what the government

(39:49):
has known for eighty years, that telepathy is real. This
is a major breakthrough. You can expect a lot more
developments there. Along with that comes remote viewing. They discussed
that on Rogan. Pharah makes it clear that he's talked
to by the way. In that interview, Parah talks about
a lot of people that are not in the film
that he has talked to. He spent four years talking
to these people. And one of the things that came

(40:10):
up remote viewing absolutely true.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
So that has just exploded.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
And then you've got the work of Beatrice Villa Reale,
who happens to be a physicist at the Nordic Institute
of Astrophysics, kind of a serious organization in Sweden where
they give away the Nobel Prizes.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
And what did they just do? An unbelievable act of
elegant science, not deep, super complicated science that you do
when you kind of get a breakthrough in quantum physics.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
But elegant. It goes and discovers something that was right
there nobody found.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
What did they do? They went and reviewed thousands and
thousands of.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Plates right of photos of space before Sputnik, thousands of
them and looked at them. And what they found is
that things were turning up in one piece of space
and then later on it's gone. Some times, it was
in there a couple of times and it's gone. And
what that demonstrates, and they are about two thousands of these,

(41:05):
that these were not natural objects. And they couldn't have
been made by us. There was no satellite up there.
It confirms that something was up there that was made
from somewhere else. It basically slammed dunks the issue of
extraterrestrial presence. Thousands of these. The only other explanation is
they happened to catch a meteor though small media going by,
and it still shot, and then they film it later

(41:28):
and it's gone. Except they had situations where it was
in this plate, a couple of weeks later in that plate.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
And then it's gone. But get it gets better.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Those plates were timestamped and so they were able to
compare when these incidents thousands of them occurred and correlated
what was going on in the ground. I guess what
they found a forty five percent correspondence to our nuclear
weapons tests.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
There was there was a much bigger point in that
whole thing. Okay, not the nuclear Well, you know, everybody's
attracted to a certain things. You're attracted to the nuclear
thing that stood out to you. That's not what stood
out to me, Steve, that wasn't the big deal. No, Okay.
They went and followed the time stamps to local reports

(42:13):
about UFOs and anomalies that that that was the crazasy
part about all of it. But I'm gonna give you
part four. Okay, listen to this. This is probably bigger
than ET contact what I'm about to give to you.

(42:38):
And this was a press release from yesterday, and I'm
all about et right, Okay, this is could be the
biggest news in the history of man. And here's the
press release that the press. This is my reporting on it.
This is yesterday. Maria st she's the professor of material

(43:04):
science at of solid University. She's not wu, She's not this. No, no,
she's a materialist, right, okay, all right, wrote and published
a paper with the title Consciousness is Fundamental And I

(43:25):
am quoting directly from the published paper. Only thereafter do time, space,
and matter arise. This is the starting point for a
new theoretical model of the nature of reality, presented by myself,
Maria Strom, professor of material Science at Upsoli University. She

(43:48):
presents a framework in which consciousness is not viewed as
a byproduct of brain activity, but as a fundamental field
undering everything we experience, matter, space, time, and life itself.
This is the biggest thing ever. Now. The physicists and

(44:14):
science has always stood on. Consciousness is created from chemistry
in the brain. Consciousness arrives out of that. It's local
to us. It is not out there. When you die,
you turn into space dust. This paper says the opposite
conscious and when you read the full paper, consciousness is

(44:36):
the basis for dark energy. It is what is expanding
the universe. Consciousness arrives here and enters us after our
bodies are formed. It changes everything. Every spec of science
that we have now gets flipped on its ear. The

(44:58):
article has been selected as the best paper of AIP
which is the Advances in Physics and is now featured
on their cover. This is a very very very very
very big deal. So now you can go up to
a Neil deGrasse Tyson or Amicio Kaku or Brian Green,

(45:19):
a Sean Carroll, any of these materialists, fundamental, pragmatic, non spiritual,
non wu scientists and physicists who are rock stars with
these huge followings that they have that want to poo
poo the et consideration and what consciousness is. This flips
it all over, and now this is an argument that

(45:41):
is able to be presented in an intellectual format. It's huge.
It is the biggest of news why you and I
always knew this, Our community always knew this about consciousness.
Science and and education at those levels always denied this

(46:05):
aspect of it because they couldn't measure it. She applied.
I thought you were going to mention this and then
I'll move on. She went back and looked at all
of these theories, rules and laws of physics and re
studied and reapplied the math and the algorithms and got
different results. The results our consciousness is first, then then matter,

(46:30):
then time. Right, it's crazy, it's absolutely not. It's a
big deal.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Well, if it's true, she gets a Nobell. And if
it's true, then one might assume that a very advanced
civilization thousands of years ahead of us, as how would
you say, taking advantage of that and utilize that in
ways that we could not possibly at this point.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
The consciousness issue comes up with respectave ets again because
of telepathy and so forth, their ability to integrate with
their machines. And this is good, and I wait more
information about that. But in the moment, the idea that
the fact that we're not alone is going to be
maybe confirmed and then become engaged worldwide without the restrictions

(47:13):
that are being put on it.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
That's a big deal in the immediate moment.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Of people's lives, with all kinds of potential implications for
the future, because we have to reset the civilization and
that's going to require worldview change over other grandiose proportions,
possibly even with the help of VTS in an open
contact environment. So again I'm making a simple point. It
looks like the stage is set. Does that mean it'll happen. No,
but there is no barrier to it. I couldn't say

(47:40):
that during the Clinton administration. While that was going on,
I knew it was awful. They went after him, they
pounded them. Podesta was kind of stonewall. They did what
they could, but there was no chance. There was no
way they were going to work with Carter said a
few things, try to get a study going slapped down.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
But that was then.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
A lot's happened since then, and it begins in twenty seventeen,
and many of the people that are in this film
were part of that initial group that came out Alessando,
Melon and so forth. So it's been about an eight
year span, not long compared to the past, in which
we went from a breakout, breakthrough, which was the New
York Times articles and the people coming forward, and then

(48:16):
it escalates slowly over time, and now we're at the
point where we're pretty much ready to lock it down.
And one of the other things about this movie is
it addresses a number of things that have been brought
up constantly by the skeptics and the debunkers online. They've
attacked and he attacked everybody, right, and this program, that program,
this person, and they put some of that to bed.
I'll let the people go watch it to get some

(48:38):
of that.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Louis Alessando is a controversial fellow, and for various reasons,
he's taken maybe the brunt of the heavy debunking.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Some of it's.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Deserved, some of it's not, and there are a number
of lives put out there as part of it. They
addressed that, not directly, but they talk about what happened,
and they basically confirm that the fundamental story is true.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Now I know that.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Well, I'm gonna get to that in a second. That's
a whole other era.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Do they address all the fake photos that Ellosondo had
put up? No, no, not.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
At all all right, mistakes, yes, but that's small potatoes.
You've got a much bigger issue here, and so I
think it helps to restore a lot of this to
a more stable position. However, this is going to do this,
This film is going to generate a huge amount of backlash, parody, debunking,
all right, because it's so powerful that it's getting as

(49:35):
close to where we're going, and the people that don't
want to go there are going to push back real hard.
All the people, I say people, all the persons who
have been dining out for years on debunking this issue,
making fun of the parodying, all that kind of stuff,
attacking people, defamation left and right right, They if they
see the incoming where it's it's going to be proven

(49:55):
to be true, this is not comfortable for them. I
get that this is not something they're looking forward to,
and as they're really plyl it on for sure, and
I get that.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
And there's something happening on the web I'll get to
in a minute. So the key message that I'm giving
here is this, what's been going on for the last
eight years is preparation for disclosure, not disclosure in the
sense of dumping stuff out that preparation meant things had
to come forward. People had to say things, but always
in an i legal way so as not to derail

(50:27):
the process and get people involved. They succeeded, They've done it.
There's been some pain. Some of the people did get
hit hard because where they went was really tough. Grush
was like the icebreaker, you know, the front of that
icebreaker ship takes a hell of a beating, and he's
taking a hell of a beating, but he's still here,
all right. But now there are more and more witnesses
coming forward, and this film just to give you an

(50:48):
idea how important it is. One age of disclosure is
going to make it easy for more politicians. There are
many who have not come forward, but they know what's
going on, but they're not ready to come forward yet.
For every Birchet, there's ten or twelve other Congress people
that kind of know. This is going to make it
easier for them to step up too. So you're going
to have more members of Congress coming out too. It's
going to make it easier for witnesses or kind of

(51:10):
on the fence right now a little worried to come forward.
It's looking safer, so it's going to help more witnesses
come out. It's going to generate more media coverage, all right.
So you see the impact of this film is not
just people learning something new. It's literally helping to advance
the process. And it's also make it easier to get
hearings more hearings. So it's going to have and because

(51:32):
of the way it was marketed, over each day that
goes by from now forward, more and more and more
people are going to see the film. They're going to
see the Rogan interview, they're going to see the more interview,
and it's just going to keep it going.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Now.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
The film is right now for sale and rent for
a lot of money. They're trying to get some money back.
I don't blame Dan for that. It's not streaming free,
but eventually that'll come down and eventually they'll stream for free.
But let me tell you, buy this film, rent this
film if it is a little expensive. When you rent
and by this film, you are paying respect to the

(52:05):
person that has done something extraordinary. But you're also helping
the disclose your process in a very straightforward way. Because
he made it clear in the interview with Rogan, he
talked to scores more people than that. He had a
four hour director's cut he had to cut down to two.
There's a whole bunch more that could come out in
another film. So let's reward this film right support it

(52:27):
on Amazon. It doesn't stream now, but you can rent
and buy it all right now. The other thing I'd
like to mention is that.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
You're putting an awful lot of pressure on this film.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
I am I am man. When you see it, let
me know if you think.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
You make me, I mean a fo fah. I always
play Devil's advocate, right, of course you do. If we
go back to It's why you love me, Steven don't know,
I don't and you owe me three dinners. I do.
I owe you at least three dinners at least it's

(53:07):
whatever you want. If I go back, if we go
back to December of twenty seventeen and the excitement that
was around that, and I found myself in the middle
of it for a lot of different reasons. I was,
I was planted in the middle and all of the
players that were involved. I was interviewing and you know

(53:29):
here on Fade to Black and Coast to Coast, I
made movies with them, which is TV series did. I
did all of that, but I had I lifted my
foot off the gas pedal a little bit, and I
asked myself if there was going to be legs to
this story. It was big UFO program, secret UFO program,

(53:55):
Pentagon New York Times, we know, and so yes, the media,
that was a huge, huge wave New York Times, the
reveal a UFO program, TTSA. This this momentum, and dude,
it started there, but it also died there and died

(54:16):
it did it knows died? You know where's TTSA today?
You know? And what I'm saying is we had all
of that going for us in twenty seventeen. It was
a mountain. It was amazing. It was so much fun.
It was so cool, and then poof, two years later,

(54:38):
it was all over and no, it was not. Look,
this is my job.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
You're while you're doings and shows and you got a
lot you plate guy. Look, TTSA was a launch. It
was a launch vehicle, right, It was the initial what
do they call it? And it launched the thing and then,
as you do with launches, that segment falls off right
and and the rest moves forward. So TTSA was never
going to follow that down the line. It was going

(55:04):
to fall off, and it did.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Okay, okay, I get that. No history lesson here my
point and then what happened happened whole on Steve and
Steven Stephen. My point is, if that if this film
is what the New York Times did in twenty seventeen, great,
let's hope that's putting a lot on this film. And

(55:28):
I hope it is. I hope, way bigger than New
York Times. I need Secretary of State is in the
damn thing.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
The Secretary of State was not in the Two the
Stars Academy of Arts and Sciences in two thousand and sid.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
I'm talking about TTSA. I'm talking about the New York Times.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Well, even the New York Times article. What what what
does that come out in this movie's equivalent of fifty
of those New York Times are Well, I hope, so,
I hope. And it's not coming from a journalist that's
given a story. It's coming from high level people in
the government, admirals, generals, lieutenants. Right, it's thirty four people. Man,
it's a sledge hammer right to the glass ceiling. So

(56:07):
but let me tell you what else is going on
in net and I don't want to get this out
because I want to get people prepared for it, because
it's coming. There's two groups of people on the internet,
mostly X who are this about.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
This is what I'm gonna say.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
They hate the government. Okay, we know that they hate
the government. It lies, it misrepresents, it's a bunch of
deep state swamp people.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Whatever the hell they hate it.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
And then there's a bunch of people that hate this issue,
don't like it, No, it's not real. They hate the
fact that people are drifting on it, and whatever the
hell else. And then there's people that hate both.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
And so now that.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
We're kind of broken out, okay, and as I said,
they're like, eh, they're not gonna take this. What you're
having is the age of citizen parody is about to
take us on. Now what do I mean by that?
This is the age of parody and political parody. We
know that it's gone to places. I can imagine when
I was a kid, you had a cartoon in the paper,

(57:00):
you know, an editorial cartoon and something in the comics. Now, huh,
you have incredibly funded, sophisticated parriers that can literally rip
you to pieces and make you laugh. That's become a thing.
But guess what, it's gone citizen because the tech is there.
You can get the software, the AI, a little bit
of equipment, and you can make your own parody films.

(57:20):
It's not South Park, but it's interesting. And what's happening
is they're now coming out. First came the AI cartoons,
right that are kind of making fun of this issue,
and then the film started coming. They're sophisticated, they're very good,
and they're going right at the issue. They're defaming everybody.

(57:41):
Some of it is not defafamatory, but it doesn't matter.
The Internet is a giant defamation machine. There's not a
damn thing you can do about it. And if you
don't like being defamed in parodies, do not become a
public figure, all right, And so this is going to
be pouring out. Meanwhile, it draws in the other skeptics
and they're really pounding this issue hard on the net.
It's going to get worse. I'm inviting people to enjoy it,

(58:04):
laugh right, and not get angry when they utterly defame
the hell out of somebody you really admire. But this
is going to happen because now you can do that.
Almost anybody can do that. I can't do that.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
I'm too old.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
But I'm impressed by how good it is. And yet
of course it is not helpful.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
All right.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
One of the things they're doing, and I'm not saying
it's government back, there's so many smart kids and gen
z's on the internet. They can do almost anything. What
it is trying to do is bring back the age
of stigma and ridicule and make people embarrassed to say
the word say alien and so forth. They really kind
of trying to push it there. I don't think it's

(58:46):
going to succeed, but I'm just giving people an alert.
So this is the pushback from the public initially in
that after seventeen eighteen, we got pushed back from the DoD.
They've made four or five significant moves, but at this
point they've just about giving up. There's not much they
can do at this point. And when you watch the
movie and you see people that have dealt with the

(59:06):
DOOD talk with people in the d D, you realize that,
you know, there's really not much more they can do
to kind of hold the line. I mean, they can,
They've done a few things, but nothing works.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Right.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
They tried to undermine the nuclear shutdown thing with a
grotesque article that Wall Street Journal fell flat. They tried
to debunk the whole issue by saying it was just
misunderstanding of stuff that we were doing, and the pilots
were saying stupid things because they were hazing them with
dumb stories to make them embarrassed. This actually made it
into the Wall Street Journal. I was interviewed for it

(59:39):
for an hour, right, So it blew up nothing, okay,
So they kind of know it's over now. The question
is can we finish this up in an orderly way.
We have another problem, and that, of course, is that
there's a hugely difficult, negative, hyperpartisan situation going on in
the country.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Are happening every day.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
We just had two guardsmen almost killed. They may still
die in DC. We could see martial law.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
I don't I know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
That's not helpful, that's not going Yeah, we're not going
to go there, I'm saying, but there are these things happening.
And so one of the things that we've pointed out
is that, look, the president has an opportunity to do
something incredibly important and special, and it would certainly help
as we try to deal with everything that's happening, to

(01:00:28):
have something that provided to us by our president, by
our government, this truth, ending this embargo, it would go
a long way for making a little easier for us
to get along. It has, how we say, collateral positives
other than just ending the truth in bargo. We need
something like this now every day. I mean I'm on
an ascids all the time, but the last two years

(01:00:50):
or the last year, certainly, but even longer than that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
And I watch the news all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
It's a horror show, right, and that doesn't do good. Okay,
my enzymes are probably all screwed up, and everybody you know,
suicides are up, people are depressed.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
We all know this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
We need something to take us to another place. And
what could do that better than finally confirming to the
entire human race, which will have up and quickly that
there are other species they're here. That could be a
good thing. Let's find out more, and the whole damn
I get to say, the whole damn information sphere becomes

(01:01:26):
a giant sci fi movie.

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welcome back Fat to Black. I'm your host humming Church
tonight that one of known Stephen Bassett, is joining us.
We're talking about a new documentary that is out now.
It is called The Age of Disclosure. I just popped up.
Let me see, uh, I'm in the chat. I'm gonna
do this in real time. What did you think of

(01:07:43):
the doc? Okay? All right? So I just asked everybody
Stephen who has seen the film and what they thought
of it? What is uh? What is revealed? What is
the Is there an overarching message here? Is it that
the government does know and they're not talking about it,

(01:08:07):
is that the overarching message in the film.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Well, the overarching aspect of the film is that a
whole lot of people with pretty substantial lives and careers
and credentials and accomplishments are all in one form or
another confirming there's an extraterrestrial presence. They tend to go
with technologically advanced or non humans.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
I think it's extraterrestrial, and a number of those people
think that as well, and that the government knows about
it and it's been dealing with it from the get go.
That's the overall message. And you're getting in from different
people from different walks in life and station, and that
just accumulates. I mean, it's overwhelming the usual objections, you know,
for most of this eraror going back to forty seven,

(01:08:56):
here you go of nineteen fifty. Here's how it went.
You got a picture, right, that's too fuzzy and improve anything.
You got a picture it's absolutely crystal clear, has to
be fake. Okay, that's it, over and over and over
and over again. It's somebody said this, that's hearsay, has
no value. The idea was, do not allow anything to
get traction. Do not admit to anything, right, deny, obfuscate whatever,

(01:09:22):
and then of course many other things they had to do.
They spent fortune on the truth in Bargo, believe me,
a lot of money. That's all changed, that's all changed
since twenty seventeen. On my website Paradigmresearchgroup dot org under
the Projects Ongoing is my print media archive. Since twenty seventeen,
I've logged in eight thousand, maybe approaching nine thousand articles,

(01:09:45):
real articles, real journalism, not the fluff stuff. I triaged
that out on this subject. Eight thousand articles and just
seven years, the most intense seven years of all time.
That shows the how much the meat is involved. And
so the messages is coalescing. The people are lining up

(01:10:06):
behind the fundamental truth. Because once you accept that there's
an extraterrestrial presence or a non human tech presence that
and non human tech in our system, that's enough that
you know that is true. Now you can start reassessing
how you look at this world. Everything else we get
is kind of gravy and it won't be like confirmational.

(01:10:29):
It's not like I don't need to see a craft
to confirm it. I knew when I was seventeen and
certainly when I got into this field, I want to
see the craft and find out what tech they've learned
from it, and what that science and technology could be,
how he could be used because we've got some serious
problems on his planet and they're going to require technological solution.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
I want that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
I'd like to know what the ets have told them,
if they've had any interaction.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
All right, well is this is this in the film?

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Well, I mean they talk about crashes, they talk about
the presidents, they talk about all of the sayings. But
I'm saying that that that is what I want to
see come out.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
They talk about it, they refer to it one of
the attacks on the film over and over again. Where's
the evidence? It's nothing but talking heads. And again that's
because of the fallacy they think that this whole process
has been about getting all the evidence out. No, it's
getting to disclosure by the president so they can get
the evidence out. But there's still things out there that
you could talk about. There's been plenty of research.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Do they do they in the film? There's a couple
of ways to approach it. Do they do they use
fear and national security as as one of the approaches.
Do they do that or do they take the approach
that et is benevolent and and you know what I mean,

(01:11:50):
which which which way does the film approach this? It
is an interesting dynamic, and you smile, you smile as
you a.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Certain group, a certain group that you could predict are
leaning to that threat thing. They're leaning into the threat thing.
Then you've got some others not so much.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Okay, okay, But one of.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
The things from the very beginning, going back to seventeen,
if you look at this as a process that had
to take place to set us up for disclosure in
an orderly responsible way. The threat narrative, it should have
been always potential threat narrative, but sometimes they leave out
the potential I get it. But the threat narrative was
essential to get some higher level media involved, members of

(01:12:35):
Congress involved. It's a safe platform to address. It's a
national security matter. We need to look into this. Our
planes might crash into them, they never do. They might
shoot our planes down, they don't do. But still the
threat thing was always there, and it's kind of still there,
and it turns up in that dog again. Most of
the time when they say threat, they really want to
say potential threat, you know, and a kitchen knife in

(01:12:57):
the drawer in the kitchen is a potential threat.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
If it's in the hand.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Of somebody standing in front of you, it's a real threat.
And that the difference is not trivial. So the threat
thing is going to kind of continue forward as part
of this because we need the national security people involved.
What was Rubio's the head of he's the national security advisor.
But that don't over they don't over respond to it.

(01:13:26):
I do not think at the core that they really
think this is a threat. Why because they have been
studying and tracking these things for eighty years. If they
were shooting down hundreds of our planes, they would know it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
They're not.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
They know that they turned our weapons off. They didn't
blow them up, they didn't melt them down, they turned
them off. They give messages to people that like, you
know you're going down, you know you're going down a
bad road here, and things are going to go to hell.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
They know all this. But again, they're not.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Going to be able to really back off completely the
threat issue until we get into the post disclosure era
where that will be openly discussed. You'll have people on
a hearing and run of Congress, and they'll be asked
about that, what is your view of the threat, threat potential,
And they'll get different opinions under oath in a public form,
and then the public will get a more reasoned sense

(01:14:11):
of this. Do I think that fundamentally there's a threat
to our fundamental civilization?

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
No? Do I think that these energies are evil? No?

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Do I think they could turn evil or they could
destroy us anytime they wanted to. Yeah, it's a potential threat.
It will always be a potential threat.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
But guess guess what.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Just about every living person on this planet is a
potential threat to everybody else, and and and frequently they
become a real threat. We're really dangerous species, incredibly violent,
incredibly incredibly destructive. The ets are not quite at that level.
So I'm going to give them some slack here and
find out more, hopefully in a post disclosure time.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Yeah, that's a that's a pretty solid position and one
that if we step back and understand the way that
the media deals with this, and certainly washing to fear cells,
you know, use fear to keep people in line, and

(01:15:06):
in step right, you use fear and and propaganda, and
that's that's the part of this to hide behind well
it's national security. Why is it national security? And if
it is national security, keep that secret. Don't keep et

(01:15:28):
from us life in the universe. That's that's nature. You're
you're you're trying to make nature a secret, and that
that's the that's the part that we can have both
tell us that we're not alone in the universe, that
we've made contact all right, now, there are other issues
where we don't want the bad guys to have this technology.

(01:15:51):
I get that. I support that, you know. So it's, uh,
it's a really weird, strange situation that we find ourselves in.
If you continue the fear narrative, people are going to
go with that when that is not the case. And
that's that's the that's the part that I really have

(01:16:11):
a problem with.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Well, interestingly enough, I think the fear narrative with respect
the ETS really wasn't particularly there. It was somewhat, but
you didn't see much of it. You know, where the
fear narrative really was is they repeatedly a number of
times get back to the fact that again pointing out
something we already know right that Soviet Union, Russia and

(01:16:32):
China they've got they got these crafts. They've got them too.
It's hard that should shock no one. All right, how
many other countries have craft?

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
I don't know. In many cases they may.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Get a crash, but they'll give it to some other country,
like possibly the Italian crash ended.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Up with us and so.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
And we know the Russians had had craft and they
had et bodies, which is one of the things that
triggered their very intense investigation into telepathy and remote viewing.
They were ten years ahead of us before we figured
that out, probably because they had some of their own
crash vehicles and they had maybe live ets. China is

(01:17:09):
almost certainly they say that China is also working on
re engineered vehicles. They think they may have created some
reengineered antigravitics. Possibly those are turning up over our basis.
All of this kept coming out, and then then the
fundamental issue.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Was certainly stated. I forget by who.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
We can't allow these other nations to get beyond us
in the weaponization of ET derived tech and science.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
That's a given.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Okay, I understand, how did you even stop that?

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
You can't it's not even that's a fear tactic. Not
from you. I mean, I mean in general, if you
say something like that, something that you can do nothing about. Right,
if Putin has got a craft and he's reverse engineering,
he's got a craft and he's going to reverse engine,
there's nothing we can do about that. I can.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Let me tell you what you can do, Jimmy. Look,
the biggest concerned, probably from a national security standpoint, regarding
et tech as antigravitics.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
Danny's brought it up.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
I brought it up, and I think it was brought
up in the film. We know how these craft operate,
and they talked a lot about how these craft operate,
confirming over and over and over again they can do
what they do. And I think Davis or somebody gave
it a pretty good explanation of how they work. Now
I've heard something like that. It was intriguing. Maybe it's true,
but whatever, it made some sense. The point is they

(01:18:38):
move like this, So if you have that kind of tech,
you can put a couple of nuclear warheads on that
and you can take it from somewhere in Russia and
put it over Washington before they even know it's there.
That's how fast it is, which makes them the perfect
first strike weapon.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Okay, it's Thanksgiving Eve, Steve, listen, chill out on the darkness.
But but I will say this. I will say that.
I will say this that that hasn't happened, if you want,
because it hasn't happened. If anybody out there had had

(01:19:16):
that ability, we would we would know, we would see
it in the theater not the theater of war.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
I'm saying, I'm giving thanks Jimmy for you and for
the disclosure process. I'm very thankful person. But they made
it clear they already have it. We have anti gravitic
craft two now, whether they're quite as operational as the
best that we've seen.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
And all I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Saying is is that nothing makes the nuclear uh nuclear
war concern worse than first strike capability. First strike capability
makes everybody paranoid because you know they could it, should
you do it, and that we don't want to stay

(01:20:02):
in that zone very long at all. And this antigravitics
apparently is taking us there. Maybe they're already so they're
trying to say this. The way you defuse this is
you and the truth embargo. You get the information out,
the whole world learns there here, the whole world learns
we've got this tech, it's being developed. Let's sit down

(01:20:23):
and see how we can avoid this technology being becoming
a serious threat to an accident to launch a nuclear war.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
Let's solve that problem.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Let's back away from the mutual assured destruction reality we're in.
The way you get there is not by scaring people
to death, but by giving them the information. And we
can't get that without disclosure. But these men are bringing
this up, possibly to show there were very legitimate reasons
why they kept this thing solid and classified, because there

(01:20:56):
are major national security risks, not from the ETS, but
from the fact that more than one country has got
the tech.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
Yeah, for sure, for sure I saw, and you're more
than welcome to repeat what I'm about to tell you.
But about a year ago, Steven, and you know where
I live. You've been to my house. You know that
I'm one mile from skunk Works, right right down the street.
And a year ago, I went out after the show

(01:21:25):
and I went up on the second floor to my
balcony to watch the meteor shower that was happening. So
I step out there and I'm facing skunk Works and
I'm watching the meteors. But this is what happened. I'm
not going to get into the full, long, drawn out

(01:21:45):
event itself. But I see an object zigzagging out in
front of me, not very high, maybe a thousand feet,
and it's bright white and it's doing this at the
same altitude and it's just right above Skunk Works and
it catches my eye. This thing Stephen comes out and

(01:22:06):
it's strobing these white lights under it really fast. But
it's quiet, and I'm watching it. I'm like, okay, all right.
Then it comes right over my house and it parks
right above me and it's about it's about I'm gonna

(01:22:27):
guess and say fifty feet and it was three white
lights when I I don't know. I didn't know the
shape of the craft. I can't say any of that.
I'm looking at these three white lights going. It wasn't
making a sound. I'm doing that for effect, right, The
strobing anyway, dead silent, dead silent, And it's right above me. Man,

(01:22:54):
I'm looking into the belly of it. And I almost
felt like it came over my house for a reason, right,
I okay, So there's that aspect of it, but I'm
watching was like, holy crap, the thing is just and
it just went back. And now so I thought to myself,

(01:23:18):
that was any gravitic and and this is the other.
This is the other thing that really overpowered my mind.
That thing could park anywhere and nobody would know it.
Yeah right, and that that and at that time all

(01:23:42):
the drones were happening. And then I'm seeing this go down,
and so now I'm thinking about that aspect of it.
Could this this was testing. This is tested over Palmdale.
We see shit like this every night. Every night. There's
something going on in this town. It's one of the
reasons why I live here. But if they did that
over another city, people would lose their minds if they

(01:24:06):
saw it. Now, I don't know if the white strobing
was the propulsion system. I don't know. If you turn
that off, you wouldn't see it. I'm talking about the lights.
But it seemed to me that what I was seeing
with the with the lights flashing rapid that maybe that
was the propulsion system. I don't know, but that is

(01:24:28):
what Lockheed is testing out here. And yeah, I oh man,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
It could be a it could be a silent propeller
drone with some lights on it, but you couldn't see
the structure.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
So you don't know what it was. It was well,
I can only judge to say it was five hundred
feet up or a thousand. It was low, okay, so
what is five hundred feet you know, a football field
or something. So it was pretty low. But it was big.
It wasn't you know, it wasn't small. It was it

(01:25:03):
was it was pretty good size, not making a sound.
I see jets, I see rockets, and I see helicopters.
I see everything flying around here making noise. This thing
was silent. It was freaky. Man. It was how many
how many miles are you from VanderBurg? Uh? Two hundred?

(01:25:26):
Relatively close two hundred. It's on the coast, you know.
So you know that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
You know that some of the testimony that came out
one of those hearings is about several events, and it's
starting to get more traction, and I think it was
supported in the film. I think about some you know men,
you know, some of the security guys, and and a huge,
massive black thing comes over.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Oh it was red. It was red. It wasn't BlackBerrys, right,
but it was it was red. That was the bowling
contractors that saw that at Vandenberg.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Well, I think it was more than one event because
this was black. I think I'm just saying that these
things are now going to get aired. These guys are
coming forward, right, and that that is a problem. Then Burg,
of course has got a history that's amazing. So again,
stuff is just coming out everywhere, dropping witnesses this and that,
and that's what I mean by the truth and Barger

(01:26:19):
was collapsing. It can't it can't catch all of this stuff.
It's just happening too fast. It's overwhelming.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Yeah, VanderBurg. When I when I heard that testimony, it
was it was pretty exciting. But I'll say this, I
have ben to Vandenburg. I've been there on the beach
with the security escort Space Force uh to watch a
SpaceX launch and standing there on the beach and they

(01:26:45):
took me all over the base. I was able to
go to I even went to the PX. The security
took me to the PX so I could buy stuff. Dude.
I got SpaceX or Space Force T shirts and stuff
stickers from my car. It was amazing. Anyway, let me
say this, when those witnesses talked about that when you

(01:27:08):
go to the coast and I'm only saying this because
I've been there. When you go to the coast where
they have all the towers, the launch sites, the security,
the sensor systems, the radar, the radio antennas, that everything
that that is a crazy secure high tech and everybody's there,

(01:27:32):
NSA NRO, They've all got their buildings. You drive past them.
Oh there's the NRO. Wow, Okay, it is there. It
is the most secure place. And for something like that
to happen at Vandenberg, everybody on that base knew about it.
They have way too many It's one of the most
protective and sensitive areas in the world, right, So to

(01:27:56):
have the testimony there, where are the reports? You know,
all of that stuff is documented. Let's bring that stuff forward.
What is it that they saw, they tracked and what
did this sensor data? What data was collected?

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Yeah, the other event was a big black thing and
the guys that saw it have had a rough time.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
Okay. In other words, it's another instance.

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
Where has it gone well they try to report it.
This kind of stuff is going to start coming forward.
So let me shift for a second. I noticed during
the break that you're going to have a very busy
twenty twenty six and some of those conferences, great lineups
that you were showing that you're going to be speaking
at and so forth. A lot of those events look

(01:28:39):
like first time like that, this first time that those
events have been held.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
Am I correct there? I think I am. I don't
think so. I'd never heard of them, right, So have
they actually been multiple events on the Contact in the Desert, No, not.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Contact in the Desert, the other ones you're you're going
to be there, there were two or three others contact modalities.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
Yeah, that's a time. No, no, no, it's a big
even really Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah, it's just north
of Chicago at this beautiful resort. Big that's a big conference,
a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
So, by the way, I noticed that Dian Hennessy Palace.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
It's several of them.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
So yeah, so the events are going to start getting
more audience. But you're going to see more events taking place.
And there's one that I am helping out. I'm not speaking,
but I'm kind of co sponsoring in a way that's
coming out in December this next month, December fourteenth to seventeen.
It's very it is online. It was supposed to be

(01:29:46):
a hotel in Washington, but the circumstances made that difficult,
and so it's online this time. The next five will
be in cities around the world. And what it is,
it's called the State of the World Form. Now you're
old enough, maybe remember maybe you're not old enough that
after the Soviet Union collapsed and the Communist Party was outlawed,

(01:30:07):
there was a burst of optimism that maybe we're going
to start getting sting together here. You know, it's like
maybe really damping things down gets a lot of the
nukes detant get along and all that. People really feeling
very positive. Berlin Wall was down, they're all celebrating, and
in that tech context, Gorbachev, who was now out of
he was out of power but still robust. He formed

(01:30:29):
a Gorbachev Foundation and somebody he was working with named
Jim Garrison was the president. And then they built and
created the State of the World Form, and they held
six of them in the nineties ninety five to two thousand,
I believe, And these were events that were designed to
take advantage of this optimism and re look again at
where we might go. And so they were big heads

(01:30:52):
of state, came in right, very well known scientists and
so forth. Came and they got together and discussed the
state of the world and where it could go, anticipating
some positive progress. Unfortunately, they were lasted for six years,
and then the heads of state and others decided, let's
have a Cold war again, let's have more proxy wars,

(01:31:12):
let's go back to the way we were, and they did,
and now you see where're in now. But there was
that high what they call it high high ciness. So
those events were so heavy that they were inviting, they
were asking five thousand dollars a ticket and getting large crowds. Okay,
so now thirty years go by, Jim Garrison is still here,

(01:31:34):
Gorbachev is going So Jim decided it's time to bring
the State of the World farm back because we're about
to maybe indergo that major change, that incredible transformation. That
event is going to hard to bring back that positiveness.
The future is looking better than he's referring to disclosure,
of course, and there's other things that are happening that
are clearly pretty profound, and so he decided to put

(01:31:56):
it together and it's an online conference number fourteenth to seventeen,
and it's State Oftheworld dot form State of the World
Form fifty one panelists from very interesting, diverse fields, high
level people are going to come together and they're going
to do a number of large panelist sessions, and they're

(01:32:17):
going to discuss the state of the world right now,
and they're kind of dividing it up into sections. And
one of the cool things about it is there's things
that are going to be addressing they couldn't even address
in nineteen nineties. Why one of the big areas is
NHI cosmic intelligence. Obviously, they're going to go into it
in depth. They're going to go into AI right in depth.

(01:32:40):
So these are two areas that are somewhat new psionics,
right the emerging of these abilities of the brain. And
then they're also going to talk about global intelligence in
the sense of the Earth as an incredibly intelligent thing
that we were starting to understand better. So it's a
special conference and I invite people to check it out

(01:33:02):
if you decide you'd like to register. I'm a co sponsor,
so if you can contact me through my email or
phone text phone email, I can provide a promotional code
that will save you quite a bit of money on
that registration. So this is the kind of conferences we
expect to see more of We need to start coming
together the top people look at the state of the

(01:33:23):
world now, and then how can we project a future
that we can fall in love with instead of one
that we live in fear of all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
This is doable, but I have.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
To say this disclosure is critical in this going forward. Right,
We've got to have a break in the pattern. We've
got to break out of this spell we've been under
for all of these years, where nuclear weapons, the faster,
the harder, whatever, all the other stuff we do, and
that the fight's over territory, the endless troxy wars. We've

(01:33:57):
got to get past that. And that's what this conference
is about, and that's what the Truth and Bargo is about.
So I commend the State of the World form to
your valued listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
Yeah, I'm looking at it right here. The event the
event topics pretty interesting, pretty interesting. Yeah, UAP disclosure is
right there listed as a topic, you know, yeah, AI climate, Yeah,

(01:34:28):
this is this is pretty interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
So that's that I'm hoping to see more of that,
and I think we will. I think the conferences that
you're referring to you're going to be in next year.
They have a better chance to really start galvanizing people
to think of a better future if we can break
out of certain things. In other words, the truth embargo
is holding us back. It's preventing us from going places

(01:34:52):
we must go. It's preventing us from getting access to
technology that can solve our problems. So if we can
get that and then continue to create these kind of events,
it's going to be a pretty cool five or six years.
That's all I'm asking for. We've got to get past
the way we've been operating for the last one hundred
and twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
It's been hell on Earth.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
It's really upset.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
If you live in the United States, you've got a
nice place and whatever, I get it, it's not too tough.
But if you really look around the world, my god,
it's just a nightmare. And that's going to eventually get
to us. You can't have billions of people suffering before
they get really irritated and do nasty things. And then
when you've got these governments that are constantly threatening each
other over whatever the hell they want, prepared to go

(01:35:37):
to war of a couple of square feet of territory
or throw rocks at each other and border wars and
all that of crap. We got to get past that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
We I do see here. This is the crazy part.
And I am a pure student of history. This part
of being human has been going since we were able
to walk all right, Battles over territory and imaginary borders, religion, government,

(01:36:12):
with all of these things, and we're no better now
than we've ever been in the past. You would think
that we would have started to learn some lessons by now.
And I'm almost embarrassed by it. And no, I am
embarrassed by it. But here's the thing. If there is

(01:36:33):
kind of dovetailing on what you had just said, here's
the thing. If there is something that the man fears
about us, is what if we just started getting along
right the system breaks down for them, and what would
bring us all together et the knowledge of we are

(01:36:57):
not alone in the universe. That is, it's so fundamental,
it's a non trivial issue. It's a huge issue. And
the power shift, yeah, for sure, And and the power
structures that are in play right now, they don't ever
want that. They don't want us to get along. They

(01:37:18):
they don't. They simply don't, because if they did we would.
But there's there's another truth.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
The power boys usually boys, they're women, but that accumulate power,
accumulate wealth, and then do what they want. A lot
of them are not particularly copas menace, but in many
of them they've always been outnumbered hundreds of thousands of one,
always maybe millions to one, frankly, because most of them

(01:37:48):
do their worst as heads of state, rulers and what
have you, and there's only two hundred countries, maybe millions
to one. They've always been outnumbered. But the world's people
are never able to probably get into a position where
they will work together, get a sense of what is needed,
and basically just push them aside. And I get that
there's a lot of things that divide us constantly. But

(01:38:10):
the knowledge that we're not alone, and the potential for
contact with ets in an open way in the future
and transformative texts, this is the kind of thing that
can bring billions of people together. And guess what, probably coincidental,
they have the technology. I got it right here in
front of me.

Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
You know what we're talking about to come together.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
Billions of people can interact through the neural link that
we've created on this planet. You could technically have a
zoom call with two billion people. It would cost a lot,
but technically it could be done. How you could even
run it through spacelink whatever the hell. We have the
ability to come together and out in using the sheer numbers,
push aside the people to thrive on keeping us afraid,

(01:38:53):
threatening us, intimidating us, isolating us, ghettoizing us, and so forth,
purely for their own personal satisfaction in some case, for money,
not knocking money per se. You can have very successful
capitalism in any country and not go through the crap
that we're going through. But again that requires coming together,
making changes and so forth. This is kind of what's

(01:39:15):
on our doorstep delivered by Amazon. I'm sure this is
sitting there. We just need to go out and get
the package before some porch pirate takes it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:25):
Right. It's a good analogy that just came up with.
That was that was actually pretty damn.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
Good because I watch a lot of YouTube, and porch
pirate videos are really a big thing now.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
The point is is that when I have passion for this,
it isn't because oh gee, I want to know that
these are really here, or you know, I want to
see a craft. That's not why I have this passion.
It is a passion based on the fact that this
is very much connected to the circumstances of human civilization
at this particular time. It is not a coincidence. There's

(01:39:56):
a reason they start showing up after Hiroshima and Nagasaki
a start crashing, actually giving us ships that came up
in the documentary. You've heard about this a lot. They
confirmed that a lot of times the ship is just
left there for us to pick up. Think about that
for a second, right, giving you a ship, right, learn
some tech from it? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
Or you could turn it into a bomber. I don't know.
But the complex.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
Relationship between us and these ET's for the last eighty
years is we're twenty five movies and I hope some
big shot is going to make some real good ones.
Steven Spielberg and so Dan is paving the way. He's
got multiple projects next year. He is going to become
a major player in this. He's going to be like
a leader. The other Hollywood guys like Spielberg and JJ

(01:40:43):
Abrams who have done a nonfiction series like UFO and
Encounters all good, thank you. They haven't done any films,
So they may want to follow him and say, Okay,
that's a good doc you got there, Dan, But I
think I can beat that, right, I'm going to put
thirty million dollars going to do a doctor to cover
the truth and bargo from the beginning, all of this

(01:41:03):
could be coming, but somebody's.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Got to lead the way.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
We had leaders and point people going back to the
forties and fifties, sixties, there was always some people trying
to lead the way. They're mostly gone. Now there's still
people trying to lead the way.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
We do the best we can, but we're limited. We
need people like that who are less limited.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
Are you his agent?

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
I'm not his agent, but he is now a major
figure in this issue and needs to be accepted as that.
And he's going to get a lot of crap and
so he needs to get some good vibes and he's
getting a lot of that online. But he this movie,
which is his movie. Basically, he didn't go to this
studio because he didn't want any studio telling him you
don't want to do that, So it's all his. He
worked from home put the thing together. Of course, he's

(01:41:47):
got access to post and pre production, experts, put this out,
did the marketing, did the setup, got the interviews, But
what can you do now? Look, he recognized like James Fox,
James Fox is fantastic. Could he have done what Dan
could know? But he worked with James on a movie.
James is really very very how would you say, just

(01:42:11):
incredibly appreciative of and he's putting out posts to that effect.
Be nice if some of them would work with some
of the other documentary makers. We've got a lot of
people that have made docs come together. That's why I
created with Dan Harrari, the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance. We got
two hundred and fifty members. Now they help people come
together make the films that are going to educate the
world and so that we could start talking more about

(01:42:32):
a post disclosure, new technological world and less about the
latest threats of launching nukes.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
Get day. You bring up such a fantastic point that
I just think, I mean, I mentioned it every night
on the show, but I just think that it should
be driven home et if they get here, and they do,
but if they get here, that means they have overcome

(01:43:03):
the bullshit that we lived through every day on this planet.
They've overcome that they're not at war. They are okay.
ET is coming from planet Camels Soup, right, so or
whatever whatever the name of their planet is okay and
and so that's how my mind works. So it has been.

(01:43:26):
But they don't. They don't consider themselves. They would have
evolved past countries, borders, religions, race and all of that.
They come they are Soupians, right, we are earthlings, but
we don't consider ourselves earthlings. Everything is territorial and individualized

(01:43:48):
and divided and everything else. And that's what we need
to appreciate about ET is that they have overcome that,
and we need the over or come that. There is
just no I'm embarrassed man, ET. You know, if they
really showed up for an open conversation and and and

(01:44:11):
pulled out the dinner chairs and we have the main
table and the kids tables and we actually sit down,
we're gonna be proud of the way we act on
this planet. But would we be sure and evolved into
something special? No, we haven't. All right, let's just show

(01:44:34):
show ET social media. Are you going to back up
and go? Man? This is this is our technology, man,
this is how we have evolved. Have you seen somebody
put a firecracker in his butt. Check it out, man,
it just went viral. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:44:51):
What you're trying to say is that they have moved
past the point in their evolution on their planet where
they do not stick firecrackers in.

Speaker 1 (01:44:57):
But hopefully that is the case.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
Right, Let me turn that into something that will give
me a great sinish here you ready, Okay, we'll start
with what you just said, which is quite true. The
laws of physics are the same throughout the universe. The
elements are the same throughout the universe, and so they
have to learn them just like we do. Assuming you've
become that advance and so forth, and so they're going
to have to deal with the risk of all of.

Speaker 1 (01:45:20):
These sciences that we have.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
And the point is that they got through that, or
at least ultimately they were able to get past it
and have a civilization that could travel the stars not
looking to blow everything up. So that's good, which means
that would be nice to sit down and talk to
him about how did you do that?

Speaker 1 (01:45:38):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
I happen to believe that the whole disclosure thing which
they're helping to facilitate is not just that's not the end.
Disclosure is necessary worldwide disclosure is necessary for open contact
to go well. And so after disclosure, I think open
contact takes place where we're talking to each other, not
necessarily in the same room, but there's dialogue going on
and it's made public. We can then talk with them

(01:46:01):
about and by the way, AI could come in handy
for that, which is kind of interesting. But in any event, look,
how did you do that? How did you get through that?
Did you blow yourselves up? You didn't know how?

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
That's the question I would ask, dude. I don't care
about faster than light travel. I don't care about stopping
pollution on this planet or carrying cancer. How the heck
did you guys do it? Now, let's go to the
next level. Let's say the next level from that here
is another next level. I've always got more levels. Okay,

(01:46:33):
let's go step.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
And so they have managed to deal with that and
move on. And then so they see a planet that's
going through the same thing, right, and they kind of
know how that can go. It can go really bad,
it can go good, right, and they're seeing that, one
would not be surprised to think that they might go, well,
you know, let's let's let's let's get let's intervene here

(01:46:55):
a little bit. Let's kind of deal with this. Let's
see if we can help them not get through this.

Speaker 1 (01:46:59):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
Maybe they had help when they were up against these
same fundamental physical problems in terms of science and technology
and weaponry, So they might want to step in and help,
and they might turn up just about the time we're here,
because in nineteen hundred we didn't have that problem, but
from nineteen hundred on it got worse and worse and
worse and worse and worse, and it really got bad

(01:47:20):
when we start slaughtered our own people in Japan, and
then they started turning up big time. So it looks
like there may be a connection between our situation and
their ability to understand that and maybe help. Now, okay,
let's go another step further. There's a lot of stars
out there, the two trillion galaxies one hundred to one

(01:47:41):
hundred maybe five hundred million stars in just our galaxy.
The average number of planets per star system is probably
around four to five. The number of planets in the
galaxy is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
So there's a lot of life out there.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
So why with this particular group that we know a
lot about we've painted them, we've drawn them, we have
a pretty good idea what they look like. In fact,
they talked about that in the film as well. Why
is it that they're here?

Speaker 1 (01:48:07):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
I mean, it could have to do with the fact
that we are facing these challenges and they want to help. Okay,
but why would they want to help? Just on general principles?
What if there was a connection that supported that? And
when you look at the ets, what do you see?
And this came up in the film. You see the
Nordics or tall whites that look very much like humans.

(01:48:28):
The Nordics look just like us. Genetic connection. The Reptilians,
why did they look reptilians? There's some reptilian day in
them that came from god knows when and probably an
off planet and developed into a sentient species. Why did
the insectoids look insect like? Because there's insect DNA came
from our planet a.

Speaker 1 (01:48:46):
Long time who when the film is talking Marco Rubio's
talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
In Secretary, I'm saying that some of this came not
what I'm saying now, but the idea of intervention I
think and dealing with those issues came up. I'm going
further than that, I'm trying to point out that if
in fact some non human species, well pretty much non
human species, chose to intervene with us, one of the

(01:49:13):
reasons may because there's a kinetic connection to us. There
is DNA in them that came from our planet. Could
have been a billion years ago, could have been a
million years ago. But if you've got technology people traveling
the galaxy and ships and going to star systems, they're
gonna they're going to research and investigate life systems. They're
going to take stuff, they're going to work with it,
they're going to put it in labs. And so it's

(01:49:35):
not an accident that there seems to be a very
powerful genetic connection with all of the principal beings that
we know about. But one is a little different. The grays,
the various grays, they don't really have much humans. You know,
two heads, two arms, two eyes, I get it. But
not a lot of kinetic connection there, genetic connection. Except
which of the four species that we know the most

(01:49:56):
about are involved in the genetic work. It's the grays.
According to the contact Ese, the hybrids are with the grays,
and so there's another genetic connection there. And so I'm
suggesting they are here to help us get through this,
not just because they're just randomly deciding to do it,
but because they have a connection to our planet, which
makes it special. It makes it something they care about

(01:50:19):
because part of them came from here. Who knows how
long ago, it doesn't matter. This comes together to make
sense for me, and if that is true, then we
need to help that along. Right, We're making it really tough.
They turn our nukes off, we turn them back on.
They turn them off, we turn them back on.

Speaker 1 (01:50:37):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
They give us messages to our kids. We keep doing
the same shit. They give messages to contact these they're trying.
After Roswell, we had a craft, we had the bodies.
They're probably up there going, okay, they got bodies, they
got craft. They're going to look at this and go, okay, look,
but we need to probably talk about this, and we didn't.
We locked it up.

Speaker 1 (01:50:56):
So what did they do? Five years after Roswell? They
fly over the Capitol for about twelve days? Yeah, for sure,
for sure and forth in the middle in the little
time that we have left. Let me ask you a
couple of things, because I haven't seen the film, did
anybody in the film say that they have seen a
craft in our possession. Did anybody say that, Yes, somebody

(01:51:21):
said that in the film that they have seen a
craft in a warehouse.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
Yes, sir, seeing bodies. I think someone said seeing bodies.
There was some There were some substantial revelations in that film.
Some of them were important because we kind of knew
something like that, but it wasn't really given a lot
of credence, and there was, it didn't just have the

(01:51:46):
you know, the necessary stuff behind it. So you push
it aside and they come back and say.

Speaker 1 (01:51:49):
Oh, yeah, so there's about twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:51:51):
Or thirteen points. If we had another show, I would
probably take all of those and go through them one
by one.

Speaker 1 (01:51:56):
Oh, we can do that for sure. But let me
back up. I don't want to run out of time. Okay,
what I what I am saying is it's one thing
because I can make this statement. I can make this statement,
yes we have craft in our possession and we are
reverse engineering, and Jimmy Church can say that, all right,

(01:52:16):
it's another thing for me to say and I have
seen them, I have been there. That that's crossing the line.
And if anybody in this film has said that, not
that we have craft in our possession. Shit. Eric Davis
said that in the New York Times five years ago.

(01:52:36):
You know it's it's it's not new news. But to
say that you have seen it, then you need to
go in front of Congress. You need to reveal who
that company was, where that craft was, and and that's it.
You have to you have to back up the bs
with and you can't hide behind and Nda. If you

(01:52:56):
are saying that in the film, then you can take
it the next step because.

Speaker 2 (01:53:02):
I remember with the process of setting up the president
for disclosure, not getting everything out okay, And so if
they were to go in front of a hearing right tomorrow,
they might give the same answer that that Grush gave. Yeah,
I have seen one. Can you tell us where I
cannot I don't have the clearance for that or whatever.
That's okay, that's okay. What they're saying is enough to

(01:53:25):
advance this thing forward, pushing things forward, and it can
only land one place without confirmation from the president. We're
still going to be stuck.

Speaker 1 (01:53:34):
Yeah, you're right, you're right. But in Grusha's defense, he
never said he saw anything. He was only told he
was he was told. So now you know you're set
your your two times your two degrees removed. But if
you if you're saying on camera that you have seen
these craft yourself in how our possession being reverse engineered,

(01:53:59):
then that it You're not hiding behind an NDA anymore.
You have already. That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
No, no, no, no no. You may be cleared to
say that, but you may not be cleared to say
what labbit's in or something.

Speaker 1 (01:54:09):
Again, I don't give it about cleared you. You're not
going to jail anymore. There's nothing. Just get out and
say it. There's the whole world is defending you. There's
nobody nothing bat making it too much about them. The
process has got to be conducted in a reasonably responsible way,

(01:54:31):
not wild and crazy. Right, you gotta kind of keep
it cool in order to set the president up. All right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
So, but one of the things two of the things
the movie did. Again, this movie has got all kinds
of consequences. One, it just provided a whole list of
people it could be in part of the next hearing. Right,
that's yes, yes, available to go in front of a
hearing where they can go and say what they can,
but it'll be a powerful hearing. It's also setting up
all these people to be interviewed. The has got thirty

(01:55:01):
four people to go interview right, and and so that
is going to generate a lot of coverage, which I'll
be chronicling on my website. I expect the most the
largest number of articles on a single topic ever on
this currently, the largest number in all in these years
have done.

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
It is three i AT lists, Three i AT lists.
Everybody went nuts.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
The number of articles about three eye ant list is
off the chart. And that is basically an extra solar
commet with a slightly different constitution consistency. It's going to
fly right through and head on for another billion years.
But we're so into ets now that when we just
jumped on that puppy, it's kind of safe. This is
going to generate a lot of articles.

Speaker 1 (01:55:40):
Are you saying, three i AT lists is not ET? No? Oh,
it's ET. Oh yeah it is. It is. Prove that
it's not. Let's put it this way. But what I'm
saying is nobody can I So you can say that,
which is fine. Yeah, right, I can say that it's ET,

(01:56:03):
and it's fine. Right when I say to you, prove
that it's not, you can't. That's right. But here's what
we can say.

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
If that thing simply goes on flies on out, like
all transient objects do. The best that we can say
is it might have had some ET's on them and
maybe they wait, just they went.

Speaker 1 (01:56:26):
I'm not even I maybe there was life on it.
I'm not even suggesting that. But is it a natural object? No,
it's not. It's not that that is Uh, why do you.

Speaker 2 (01:56:39):
Think that because it had some unusual characteristics.

Speaker 1 (01:56:42):
First off, let's let's my main My main thing is this. Yeah,
it's traveling at an insane speed. It's not faster than light,
but you know, two hundred thousand miles per hour is
ripping fast. It's the fastest thing ever in our star system.

(01:57:03):
Number one, but number two, here's the big fundamental problem
for science. They are saying that it's seven billion years old.
What they're not addressing is how does a natural object
have fuel on it for seven billion years? How does
anything stay inside of that? Everything that is encounter everything that. No, Now,

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if you want to say it's a rock and there's nothing,
but you can't say that it's a commet, it's not.
It's simply not that. So could it be a probe
Could it be a piece of something, could it be
anything else? And this is my second point with this,

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This is very, very, very in my eyes important. What
are we doing. We've got Hubble, We've got James Webb,
We've got an entire satellite network, We've got terrestrial based
telescopes all doing one thing, looking for ET, looking out
into the cosmos, looking for exoplanets and searching for life.

(01:58:13):
Our trailer park backwards ass planet that we are, we
are actually doing that. ET has been doing the same
thing as us forever. We are sending probes to Jupiter
and Saturn and Mars, and we've got Mercury and Venus

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and of course the Sun. In our own little trailer
park way. We're trying to discover what's out there. ET
is doing the same thing. And to think that it
is against all probabilities that an object from an ET
race that is out there floating through galaxies and discovering

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the universe wouldn't cruised by our star system. Why would
that be an impossibility? I think, say it's impossible.

Speaker 2 (01:59:06):
I got you know, I've got one minute to respond.
I haven't got a chance. You got me cornered, Jimmy go,
I got a hell of a response to that. But
I got a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:59:13):
I think I can do it. Won't give me. I'll try.
If anybody can do it, Stephen Bassett can, and you're
wasting valuable seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:59:19):
Here's what it is, yes, is this was thrown out
of another solar system, god knows how far away, and
the process that threw it out.

Speaker 1 (01:59:26):
You have no idea what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:59:27):
It could easily generated two hundred thousand miles an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:59:30):
Two.

Speaker 2 (01:59:31):
All solar systems form the same way. It's an accretion
disc that comes out of a giant ball of stuff
that's all together. The gravity pulls it together. You got
the middle and you got the accretion disc. The Sun
turns on, the accretion disc turns into the planets. It's
always the same. However, that doesn't mean that that's the
same level or consistency of elements is the same. It
could have different elements, but the elements are the same,

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but may have more or less of it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:53):
And so when an.

Speaker 2 (01:59:54):
Object kick kicks out of another solar system altogether, it's
it's basically a comment. That doesn't mean it's made up
of the same stuff that our comets or we're familiar
with we'd all go around our own sun in our
own ag Grecian former accretion disc and so it comes
in with different elements, and so it's acting differently as
it's getting closer and picking up the radiation. It's throwing
stuff here, it's got a little too much nickel, whatever

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the hell. But that's not shocking. It's from another solar system,
all right. So the speed is not shocking because you
don't know what launched it out there. It's been traveling forever.
So if it's a probe, okay, fine, but it's not
you know, pilots on it, and so overall, once you
take away the anomalies, it's basically a comet with unusual characteristics.
It's on a straight path and it's going to go on.

(02:00:38):
And so if it's a probe, well great, but the
odds are it's it's because we know about commets, they're
all over the place. What's rare is.

Speaker 1 (02:00:46):
One coming from another solar system.

Speaker 2 (02:00:47):
And that's what makes it special and makes it interesting.
And we jumped all over it, and I love that.

Speaker 1 (02:00:53):
With unlimited seven billion year fuel supply, no stretch, Stephen,
that's just a bit of a it's no a comets
fuel supply seven billion years, seventy billion years. And here's

(02:01:13):
the other thing. We only picked up on this. It's
not this. This is not funny. This isn't comedy. We
only picked it up as it appeared behind Jupiter. We
didn't see it approach. We didn't see anything, and it
was self illuminated, self illuminated.

Speaker 2 (02:01:30):
Self A comets don't have duel supplies. It was thrown
out of a solar system. It's just a giant rock
with stuff on it, and it's traveling through space, nothing
to slow it down. And so if it's launched out
of that system at two hundred thousand miles, it's gonna
stay that way. And the fuel supply you're referring to
is basically the ice and other matter that starts to

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get affected by the Sun's radiation. And while it seems
like a lot, it's not that much, and it's casting
that off so a time.

Speaker 1 (02:02:01):
If you've answered my question, so it never ran out
of things to cast off for seven billion years. At
what point in seven billion years does everything evaporate and
it's just a clump of rock.

Speaker 2 (02:02:17):
Well, first of all, I don't know how they came
up with seven billion years. Okay, but even so, you
want you want to pass through this galaxy like this thing,
you could probably go seven billionaires and not go through
a solar system. This is a very big galaxy. And
if you went through five or six or seven, uh,
you're gonna lose some mass.

Speaker 1 (02:02:36):
But it's a pretty big size. Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:02:39):
I guess you could say extra solar comet and when
it was launched it could have been ten times bigger.

Speaker 1 (02:02:45):
So I'm just saying, man, you gotta chill. This is
all I'm chilled. I'm chilled you a lot. You need
to stop listening to Kneel the Grass, Tyson, you need
to stop listening to Neel the Grass the Core. Hey man, Hey,
Hey Stephen Steven Steven, I love you, man. Listen, have
a great say fun and amazing Thanksgiving. We're heading into

(02:03:09):
the holidays. I can't wait to see you again. And
and the next time you want to come on the show,
just let us know and we'll take things to the
next level like we always do. Man, I really appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (02:03:21):
And let let the guys running all those cool conferences
right next year let them know about me.

Speaker 1 (02:03:25):
I think I foun out of the Rollodex. I've got
a juice card. I'm willing to play for you. Okay, Absolutely,
you're the best. Steven. Thank you so much, brother Steven Bassett.
Everybody his links are below And I did go and
check out the world form. Uh, go and check out
that out too. That's pretty interesting how they've got that

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set up. And with that, that's it. Happy Thanksgiving everybody.
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your friends and your family. And if you do it
alone and that's what you want to do, you just

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