July 28, 2025 • 14 mins
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JLJ is talking about the late 80s with the Pet Shop Boys reinvented the music careers of Liza Minelli and Dusty Springfield!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Let's go bye Forgotten Hollywood. We don't forget Forgotten Hollywood.
You'll remember Forgotten Hollywood where we came from, Forgotten Hollwood.
(00:29):
All right, kids, I gotta do this a second time.
Oh my goodness. So I thought I recorded this whole
episode and there was some weird background noise I don't
know about. I don't know. I don't know what it is.
I didn't hear other recordings. So I'm talking to you
now in a different part of my house. Hi, welcome
(00:51):
to Forgotten Hollywood. Here on JAILJ Media. I am your
guest host, James Lott Junior. Doug hasn assignment. It's like
to fill it for I love doing that. I just
it gives me a chance because I am the head
of jail J Media. It gives me a chance to
thank you listeners, all of your ear holes, all of
your tablets and phones and whatever device did you listen
(01:14):
to us on? You guys have been wonderful because this
show is my biggest hits of my whole I have
like ninety shows. It's one of the biggest hits of
all time for me. Every day, every week, huge hit
every year. It's also premat into the you know, to
the outside world and to hit out there too, and
I appreciate it. I mean I'm gobsmacked, I know to
(01:37):
say how big this show is. And that's a special
things to Doug has who produces books, the guests, gets
the books, does the movies, does the shows. I've done
a few, but he's done the most of the three
hundred and forty nine shows. Pray or pride to this.
This is show three fifty by the way, He's done
most of them and does a phenomenal job. And it's
(01:58):
an assets to Jail j Media. The collaboration is amazing
and he's our flagship kind of Hollywood show. We have
some others, uh so I can classic with Tammy Govea
and my two Hollywood Spotlight and have you Heard of Me.
They're all different time periods, but they're all about things
(02:19):
you may not remember and things you should you should
get to know. In Hollywood it was all, you know.
We try to do some upgrades to just trust us.
We have we're keeping a logo that's not God anywhere
all right kind of logo, But we have new new
opening music as you heard, and as some opportunities coming
to possibly bring more of this to video. Also. Now mind,
(02:41):
you will never abandon the audio. There will always this.
We're like you guys are the bread and butter. We're
not gonna abandon it. But we just went through some
more visual things too, and kind of like is a
well rounded show. So they over the next twelve months
and work on some stuff too. But don't worry, auto listeners,
you will hear everything's coming to you. A lot of
thing that's coming to you. We do. So this one
(03:04):
I decided only I was gonna have you heard of me,
and you'll already cover it there. I decide to cover
it here for you guys, because the audience is a
large you probably have forgotten, and it includes some old
Hollywood in it. A group from the eighties. I first
heard there in eighty one with their song west End Girls.
(03:25):
You remember them, who are still performing today. They're still
not there performing today, but they are electronic pop group
that sometimes talk songs, sang songs. One of members never
spoke in public. Neil Tennant was always a singer, very
distinctive voice, very masculine, distinctive kind of range. But since
(03:47):
like dance music pop music, they decided to work with
two artists that I want that to be represent the
older part of Hollywood and I want to bring them up.
One is Dusty Springfield. Yeah, Summer Preacher Man. We all
know that Dustin and Memphis classic album from eighty seven
to ninety and then beyond. The Petchop Boys brought her
(04:09):
back and gave her some hints and guy a little
jump start her later career in Ain't and I ninety.
We also got Lives of an Nelli in the petch
up Boys. Okay, Lives of a Z came back with
this album that I still play today. It's my favorite
album is of all time. I think it's a It's
called Results, and it's just amazing. So we're gonna talk
(04:31):
about both of them, mainly through the through line as
pet Shop Boys, and how these albums could have been gimmicks.
It could have been the Ethel Mormon disco album. Yes,
I had that one too, or it could have been
and I said, I'm being a little shady Tom Jones
doing Kiss, Princess Kiss with the Yard of Noise. I mean,
it was a guy having it was good. But I'm
(04:51):
just saying these two productions with the ladies seemed really
real and also hearing the Petchop Boys had, especially Licen's
k had recorded the songs already in their voices, and
so to have them do remakes with a female voice, like, Oh,
so we'll start with Liza because she's the bigger than two. Obviously,
Liza is an Oscar winning actress, Tony winning actress. Obviously,
(05:17):
cabaret is one of the bigges things she's known for
Eliza with Dezi and Liza New York and New York,
New New York. Her version and Frank Snation's versions are
like the Defendant verses, right, Okay, So I was a
twenty year old man living in Sacramento, California, and I
am in Tower Records. Now that's what I've forgotten, Hollywood
(05:39):
Tower Records in Sacramento, and I'm boy shop Basco every
Tuesday for doing these Tuesday. And I saw this album
with Liz Manelli and cover is a very modern hairstyle
in her hands up and it's black and white and
it said results. I turned over and it's like Pet
Shop Boys produced it? What? And I was a huge
Pet Shop Boys fan. Obviously, besides Western Girls opportunities, it's
(06:01):
make lots of money, rent Heart that's my own devices.
Do I have to? I mean, there's just so many
hits all the way up to the New York City
Boy Love, et cetera Thursday. There's just so many hits,
so many hits, so many it's always on my mind.
There a version of that mean they have sobodyny hits.
(06:24):
I was like, Okay, well I will think I'm but
try it because I'm also I like theater and I like,
you know, theatrics. And I thought, okay, let's let's try this.
So I remember bring it home and loving it. I
had a record player and how about the record I
still have it this day. Read player played it to death.
It became It became a hit in Europe, but it
(06:46):
became a hit in the gay club scene and the
gay circles and a certain city that begin this big
hits results was the album Every Single Song I Loved
It is produced by pet Shop Boys, which is Neil
Tennan and Chris Lowe and Julian Mendelssohn, was released in
October eighty nine and a total reinvent of her but
(07:11):
yet not too far off? So here here do dance
pop music to me? Why it's not a gimmick. It
is because they really seem to craft the songs around
her voice. They picked certain songs. Here's how smart they were.
The first thing, I'm losing my mind. I think I'm
losing my mind is a Stephen Sondheim cover. Okay, Tony's
(07:36):
Stephen Somheim cover. That was a smart decision because she
was still talk to friends and think about you. They
have sleepless nights, and it was theatrical. It was big,
yet it was a pet Shop Boys music. It totally worked.
(07:58):
It's every song of Twisted my Sobriety, which is another remake.
I think your first person was Ta tank Around. I
think it's her name was I. You know, it's just
she she rings her own sobriety issues and she rings
that song out, you know, and and the production is
(08:18):
just like it's big now over the top and it's
big production, and she's singing her heart out a bunch
just her sobriety. My version in my song is what
it was, her version of rent, I love you you
paid my rent. I thot there's a line of that's
(08:41):
so good, so easily have whatever I need. Look at
my hopes, look at my dreams. The currency we spent
I love you, you paid my rent. Now I'll do this.
My voice is not I haven't practice today, so she says,
(09:01):
I was a lot better. It's just so it's dramatic
in all the good ways. Just version of love pains
by your black Element, don't drop bombs. Just this big numbers,
very big, very pop number and great backgross singers. When
that song so sorry, I said so sorry, I said, uh.
And it builds and it builds and it builds me
(09:23):
every single song. I love it. And why it works again,
it's like they took the right songs and paired with
the right singer and just modified her style slightly. We
didn't make it so that it's laughable, and she just like,
(09:44):
that's not almost like her at all. No, it's it's
her with the pet Boys. You know, they've done that.
They've done other things. They've done stuff with Kylivenog in Denial,
They've done stuff with Robbie Williams. My favorite songs of
this is called we Have to Patch Up, And in
that song they actually list some of their songs in
the breakdown of the song. It's kind of funny. So
(10:07):
it was like being boring and do I have to
and just I love it. This album brought her some
new fans because at that point Lies was on the tail,
was like on the end of she was almost like
heading towards being a punchline. On some level, this brought
her some legitimacy back, and then she's an artist. You know.
(10:28):
I love that. Every few years to come, she just
would come back, you know, Sexast City case back later
in that, So I love that. Now. Run the same
time period from seventy eight to ninety, we had Dusty Springfield,
who again had had a hit in years and was
a little a little older then. And then on their
album nineteen eighty seven Petch show Boys album The Second,
(10:50):
it was like it was a second single. I had
bought the first song and I saw the forty five,
so I still have it for forty five, I have it.
Then I bought their out I love about their album
late and I got their album It's called Actually and
what if I don't deserve this? What have I? What
have I? Since you went away, I've been hanging around.
(11:12):
I've been wondering why like her version. She just comes
in and sings these parts and it just worked so
well with their voice. The song was huge. You don't understand.
I mean we're talking twenty years since her last huge
giant hits in the late sixties. It brought even bigger fame.
It went number two in the UK and here in America,
(11:34):
it was number one in many countries. It just worked.
Her voice was still soulful, little rasping. Their style. It
just worked, and it led to opportunities, which is always
the greatest thing when we have someone younger put you
in the forefront. Reputation was an albaquarone n ninety. They
did a bunch of songs in private and my fair
songs are theirs and nothing has been proved was in
(11:55):
the film called Scandal. I didn't want Scandals an one,
but they had an album. And then she later started
drink some more touring and again it just it's these
two projects were not just vanity projects. They weren't just
gimmicky projects. They're taking seriously. She ended up working with
Dussy You're Gonnen, working with rich Richard Carpenter of course
(12:16):
in the Carvers fame, and had a hip with him
Merchinead video on VH one. You know. Later Sharlie Bassi
did some stuff like get the party started and this
on the Propellor heads. I mean it was like later
people started. It's just pre this is all before Share
came back. We believe in the late nineties, you know
what I It's like, this was like it had been
(12:38):
around for us. This was you know, this was around
the same time as Ronnie Spector would take me home tonight,
Like it's I love it when someone remembers someone and
their talent and brings them kind of back and say, look,
don't forget them. Princeton made a Staples and Larry Grant
like Khan, he worked as like it's like we're not done,
(13:00):
We're not dene with you guys, and you guys are
still good, you still have stuff. These were original songs
and so I just I don't nobody's talking about them.
So they so to me, they qualify is forgotten and
they are part Hollywood. So that's why I'm choosing them. Folks,
hope me like a little little bit of a musical
(13:22):
lesson today on the show. It's a little different like
subscribing comment share the show. I've seen some of you
guys share it. Thank you, And then I just want
to say thank you to those who like it's weird.
There's times like during the week, mid of the week,
all of a sudden the show is number one and
doing gangbusters. However you're listening to it. Thank you so much.
(13:44):
We appreciate you need we have more to come. I'm
James Lott Junior. Probably we were all James Junior. Sorry,
James lu Chuner everywhere, je J media everywhere and w
back congraduates this episode three fifty. We'll see you next time.
Money the Thursdays
Let's go bye Forgotten Hollywood. We don't forget Forgotten Hollywood.
You'll remember Forgotten Hollywood where we came from, Forgotten Hollwood.
(00:29):
All right, kids, I gotta do this a second time.
Oh my goodness. So I thought I recorded this whole
episode and there was some weird background noise I don't
know about. I don't know. I don't know what it is.
I didn't hear other recordings. So I'm talking to you
now in a different part of my house. Hi, welcome
(00:51):
to Forgotten Hollywood. Here on JAILJ Media. I am your
guest host, James Lott Junior. Doug hasn assignment. It's like
to fill it for I love doing that. I just
it gives me a chance because I am the head
of jail J Media. It gives me a chance to
thank you listeners, all of your ear holes, all of
your tablets and phones and whatever device did you listen
(01:14):
to us on? You guys have been wonderful because this
show is my biggest hits of my whole I have
like ninety shows. It's one of the biggest hits of
all time for me. Every day, every week, huge hit
every year. It's also premat into the you know, to
the outside world and to hit out there too, and
I appreciate it. I mean I'm gobsmacked, I know to
(01:37):
say how big this show is. And that's a special
things to Doug has who produces books, the guests, gets
the books, does the movies, does the shows. I've done
a few, but he's done the most of the three
hundred and forty nine shows. Pray or pride to this.
This is show three fifty by the way, He's done
most of them and does a phenomenal job. And it's
(01:58):
an assets to Jail j Media. The collaboration is amazing
and he's our flagship kind of Hollywood show. We have
some others, uh so I can classic with Tammy Govea
and my two Hollywood Spotlight and have you Heard of Me.
They're all different time periods, but they're all about things
(02:19):
you may not remember and things you should you should
get to know. In Hollywood it was all, you know.
We try to do some upgrades to just trust us.
We have we're keeping a logo that's not God anywhere
all right kind of logo, But we have new new
opening music as you heard, and as some opportunities coming
to possibly bring more of this to video. Also. Now mind,
(02:41):
you will never abandon the audio. There will always this.
We're like you guys are the bread and butter. We're
not gonna abandon it. But we just went through some
more visual things too, and kind of like is a
well rounded show. So they over the next twelve months
and work on some stuff too. But don't worry, auto listeners,
you will hear everything's coming to you. A lot of
thing that's coming to you. We do. So this one
(03:04):
I decided only I was gonna have you heard of me,
and you'll already cover it there. I decide to cover
it here for you guys, because the audience is a
large you probably have forgotten, and it includes some old
Hollywood in it. A group from the eighties. I first
heard there in eighty one with their song west End Girls.
(03:25):
You remember them, who are still performing today. They're still
not there performing today, but they are electronic pop group
that sometimes talk songs, sang songs. One of members never
spoke in public. Neil Tennant was always a singer, very
distinctive voice, very masculine, distinctive kind of range. But since
(03:47):
like dance music pop music, they decided to work with
two artists that I want that to be represent the
older part of Hollywood and I want to bring them up.
One is Dusty Springfield. Yeah, Summer Preacher Man. We all
know that Dustin and Memphis classic album from eighty seven
to ninety and then beyond. The Petchop Boys brought her
(04:09):
back and gave her some hints and guy a little
jump start her later career in Ain't and I ninety.
We also got Lives of an Nelli in the petch
up Boys. Okay, Lives of a Z came back with
this album that I still play today. It's my favorite
album is of all time. I think it's a It's
called Results, and it's just amazing. So we're gonna talk
(04:31):
about both of them, mainly through the through line as
pet Shop Boys, and how these albums could have been gimmicks.
It could have been the Ethel Mormon disco album. Yes,
I had that one too, or it could have been
and I said, I'm being a little shady Tom Jones
doing Kiss, Princess Kiss with the Yard of Noise. I mean,
it was a guy having it was good. But I'm
(04:51):
just saying these two productions with the ladies seemed really
real and also hearing the Petchop Boys had, especially Licen's
k had recorded the songs already in their voices, and
so to have them do remakes with a female voice, like, Oh,
so we'll start with Liza because she's the bigger than two. Obviously,
Liza is an Oscar winning actress, Tony winning actress. Obviously,
(05:17):
cabaret is one of the bigges things she's known for
Eliza with Dezi and Liza New York and New York,
New New York. Her version and Frank Snation's versions are
like the Defendant verses, right, Okay, So I was a
twenty year old man living in Sacramento, California, and I
am in Tower Records. Now that's what I've forgotten, Hollywood
(05:39):
Tower Records in Sacramento, and I'm boy shop Basco every
Tuesday for doing these Tuesday. And I saw this album
with Liz Manelli and cover is a very modern hairstyle
in her hands up and it's black and white and
it said results. I turned over and it's like Pet
Shop Boys produced it? What? And I was a huge
Pet Shop Boys fan. Obviously, besides Western Girls opportunities, it's
(06:01):
make lots of money, rent Heart that's my own devices.
Do I have to? I mean, there's just so many
hits all the way up to the New York City
Boy Love, et cetera Thursday. There's just so many hits,
so many hits, so many it's always on my mind.
There a version of that mean they have sobodyny hits.
(06:24):
I was like, Okay, well I will think I'm but
try it because I'm also I like theater and I like,
you know, theatrics. And I thought, okay, let's let's try this.
So I remember bring it home and loving it. I
had a record player and how about the record I
still have it this day. Read player played it to death.
It became It became a hit in Europe, but it
(06:46):
became a hit in the gay club scene and the
gay circles and a certain city that begin this big
hits results was the album Every Single Song I Loved
It is produced by pet Shop Boys, which is Neil
Tennan and Chris Lowe and Julian Mendelssohn, was released in
October eighty nine and a total reinvent of her but
(07:11):
yet not too far off? So here here do dance
pop music to me? Why it's not a gimmick. It
is because they really seem to craft the songs around
her voice. They picked certain songs. Here's how smart they were.
The first thing, I'm losing my mind. I think I'm
losing my mind is a Stephen Sondheim cover. Okay, Tony's
(07:36):
Stephen Somheim cover. That was a smart decision because she
was still talk to friends and think about you. They
have sleepless nights, and it was theatrical. It was big,
yet it was a pet Shop Boys music. It totally worked.
(07:58):
It's every song of Twisted my Sobriety, which is another remake.
I think your first person was Ta tank Around. I
think it's her name was I. You know, it's just
she she rings her own sobriety issues and she rings
that song out, you know, and and the production is
(08:18):
just like it's big now over the top and it's
big production, and she's singing her heart out a bunch
just her sobriety. My version in my song is what
it was, her version of rent, I love you you
paid my rent. I thot there's a line of that's
(08:41):
so good, so easily have whatever I need. Look at
my hopes, look at my dreams. The currency we spent
I love you, you paid my rent. Now I'll do this.
My voice is not I haven't practice today, so she says,
(09:01):
I was a lot better. It's just so it's dramatic
in all the good ways. Just version of love pains
by your black Element, don't drop bombs. Just this big numbers,
very big, very pop number and great backgross singers. When
that song so sorry, I said so sorry, I said, uh.
And it builds and it builds and it builds me
(09:23):
every single song. I love it. And why it works again,
it's like they took the right songs and paired with
the right singer and just modified her style slightly. We
didn't make it so that it's laughable, and she just like,
(09:44):
that's not almost like her at all. No, it's it's
her with the pet Boys. You know, they've done that.
They've done other things. They've done stuff with Kylivenog in Denial,
They've done stuff with Robbie Williams. My favorite songs of
this is called we Have to Patch Up, And in
that song they actually list some of their songs in
the breakdown of the song. It's kind of funny. So
(10:07):
it was like being boring and do I have to
and just I love it. This album brought her some
new fans because at that point Lies was on the tail,
was like on the end of she was almost like
heading towards being a punchline. On some level, this brought
her some legitimacy back, and then she's an artist. You know.
(10:28):
I love that. Every few years to come, she just
would come back, you know, Sexast City case back later
in that, So I love that. Now. Run the same
time period from seventy eight to ninety, we had Dusty Springfield,
who again had had a hit in years and was
a little a little older then. And then on their
album nineteen eighty seven Petch show Boys album The Second,
(10:50):
it was like it was a second single. I had
bought the first song and I saw the forty five,
so I still have it for forty five, I have it.
Then I bought their out I love about their album
late and I got their album It's called Actually and
what if I don't deserve this? What have I? What
have I? Since you went away, I've been hanging around.
(11:12):
I've been wondering why like her version. She just comes
in and sings these parts and it just worked so
well with their voice. The song was huge. You don't understand.
I mean we're talking twenty years since her last huge
giant hits in the late sixties. It brought even bigger fame.
It went number two in the UK and here in America,
(11:34):
it was number one in many countries. It just worked.
Her voice was still soulful, little rasping. Their style. It
just worked, and it led to opportunities, which is always
the greatest thing when we have someone younger put you
in the forefront. Reputation was an albaquarone n ninety. They
did a bunch of songs in private and my fair
songs are theirs and nothing has been proved was in
(11:55):
the film called Scandal. I didn't want Scandals an one,
but they had an album. And then she later started
drink some more touring and again it just it's these
two projects were not just vanity projects. They weren't just
gimmicky projects. They're taking seriously. She ended up working with
Dussy You're Gonnen, working with rich Richard Carpenter of course
(12:16):
in the Carvers fame, and had a hip with him
Merchinead video on VH one. You know. Later Sharlie Bassi
did some stuff like get the party started and this
on the Propellor heads. I mean it was like later
people started. It's just pre this is all before Share
came back. We believe in the late nineties, you know
what I It's like, this was like it had been
(12:38):
around for us. This was you know, this was around
the same time as Ronnie Spector would take me home tonight,
Like it's I love it when someone remembers someone and
their talent and brings them kind of back and say, look,
don't forget them. Princeton made a Staples and Larry Grant
like Khan, he worked as like it's like we're not done,
(13:00):
We're not dene with you guys, and you guys are
still good, you still have stuff. These were original songs
and so I just I don't nobody's talking about them.
So they so to me, they qualify is forgotten and
they are part Hollywood. So that's why I'm choosing them. Folks,
hope me like a little little bit of a musical
(13:22):
lesson today on the show. It's a little different like
subscribing comment share the show. I've seen some of you
guys share it. Thank you, And then I just want
to say thank you to those who like it's weird.
There's times like during the week, mid of the week,
all of a sudden the show is number one and
doing gangbusters. However you're listening to it. Thank you so much.
(13:44):
We appreciate you need we have more to come. I'm
James Lott Junior. Probably we were all James Junior. Sorry,
James lu Chuner everywhere, je J media everywhere and w
back congraduates this episode three fifty. We'll see you next time.
Money the Thursdays
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