November 30, 2025 • 51 mins
Episode 593 of the A Minute to Midnite Show. Eric Stogner joins Tony K for an important discussion on what is happening through secret societies and hidden global manipulators. How this is shaping the world in an ominous way for all of us.
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Speaker 3 (01:01):
Hi there, folks, welcome to the Minute to Midnight Show.
This is Tony coming to you from New Zealand. With
me today, I have Eric Stagner in Georgia and we've
got quite a bit to talk about, so welcome Eric.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Thanks so much, Tony, and good morning to you. And
it's a late afternoon for me. I always try and
keep that into perspective. You just had your morning copy
and yeah, I'm trying to hit my second wind at
the end of the day here lead in the day.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, big time difference, but yes, so, I mean there's
just so much happening at the moment. I feel like
we're very much in the end times and events are
heating up all the time. There's always new news things,
and yeah, we've got so many things we can cover,
like move towards a one world religion, the governments coming
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together in the United Nations and so forth to bring
us towards one world government. We've got this whole AI
movement going on in the tech thing, which many are
people are now calling up bubble, saying the tech bubble
is about to burst and that could you know, bring
big stock market crash and all that kind of thing,
and so they're talking that up at the moment. We
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will have to wait and see what happens with that.
But there's definitely a lot happening with technology and how
it's pushing people out of jobs, even though they're saying, oh,
it's going to create jobs, but we know it's only temporary,
short term jobs building infrastructure while then they get rid
of people and build everything to the whole AI system.
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So there's tons and then eric today we've have this
UN Security Council resolution on Gaza passes and Trump is
named chairman of the Board of Peace. Now that's another
interesting angle. And then we've got Muhammed bin Salmon meeting
with in the White House today and pledging one trillion
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dollars worth of investment into the US economy over the
next year, and I think Muhammed bin Salmon is potentially
a dangerous person. Trump's promising to give Saudi Arabia F
thirty five's and so on, and you've got Katar now
the air base in the US, and so America is
buddying up with these Islamic countries under Trump as well
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as you know, the whole thing in Gaza and let's
rebuild Gaza. Though Hamas has now come out and said
we never agreed to lay down our arms or you know,
and and so it's like that's another can of worms.
But you had the UN Security Council create a resolution
backing Trump's whole piece initiative thing, and Trump's you know,
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the head man in it. So it's all very interesting.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I mean, isn't that crazy.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Feels like there's a deliberate three ring circus and we're
all in the middle of it. There's this going on
here and not going on there and this over here,
and we're almost it feels like it's designed to be
deliberately confusing, so no one can really understand what's going
on here, because yeah, even just the title of it,
the Chairman of the Board of Peace like, that's kind
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of an interesting phrase. So you're really the hand behind
all this and it's a board of peace. I was
just talking to someone recently. I said, you ever noticed
how vocabulary gets twisted. So if you read a lot
of the names of the laws and stuff that gets enacted,
you know, say in this country, they'll title them things
like the restoration of peace, when in reality it's about war,
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you know, or the restoration of rights, and they're actually
taking away your rights.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
So you know, even the names, you almost have.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
To reverse them and invert them to figure out what's
really going on here. So I don't know if he's
at a board of peace or a board of war
or who knows what. And then to your point, look
how complicated this is, Like are we just doing a
peacekeeping action in Gaza or is it really part of
a larger peace plan for the Middle East that Trump
probably started back in the first term. And what is
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this really involved? There seems to be a lot of
give and take, like the Saudis and other Arabs in
the in the area are only agreeing to this because
they're going to get something out of this. You know,
this is Donald Trump after all? Right, The art of
the deal. So nobody is going to do something for nothing.
So you got to wonder, like, what is what is
everyone's take on this, because everyone's going to get something
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out of it?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
And yeah, I think like you said, like is it
the F thirty.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Five's And someone was pointing out like these are really
advanced planes that give you air superiority and stealth capabilities
and and and long distance and all that. So I mean,
that's that's a big, a big cookie. You're handing one
side of this, uh, this this agreement.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Well that's the other thing is Muhammad ben Salmon from
Saudi Arabia has said that, you know, they want to
join the Abraham Accords. That's another thing that's just come out.
And of course that's another one of Trump or Jared
Kushner's initiatives, and it's kind of like and Trump's wanted
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to normalize the relationships obviously between Israel and Saudi Arabia.
Then I believe the Supreme Leader of Iran sent M.
Muhammad bin Saman a letter just before he went to
the US. And I don't know what was in that letter.
We haven't been told, but it would be interesting to
know what Iran is saying to Saudi Arabia and this
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because obviously they've been mortal enemies. And in Israel you've
got some factions there that are angry about this resolution too,
of course, and wanting to take out the leaders of
the Palestinian Authority and so on and so forth in there.
At the you know, some factions in Israel are very
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angry at net and Yahoo for even allowing this whole thing.
And so it's split and divide in Israel as well,
the same as all the rest of the world. I mean,
where is there no division amongst countries and within the
country the factions here and there. America is very divided,
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and so is so many other places. And at the
same time, we've got this kind of ecumenical movement saying, oh,
we've got to all unite under this one banner. And
you've got the Catholics joining in with Mormons, and then
the Protestants coming back together with the Catholics, and oh,
we've got to have this great unity and so on.
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So there's a whole lot of things we can cover
in this, and I.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Do want to get to that subject in a bit,
But you're going back to this whole Middle East deal.
And what in the world is this chairman of the
boarder Peace about? In the three ring circus. The two
scriptures really just jumped to mind when I first heard this.
It is like Isaiah twenty one to two, where it
says the treacherous dealer dealeth treacherously and the spoiler spoileth.
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And I'm thinking, there's Donald Trump. He's the art of
the deal and all this confusion and chaos. It seems
like a treacherous deal He could be that treacherous dealer.
He just kind of fits who he is, right.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, And let's have a look at what Trump actually
has said. I'll just read read it. Congratulations to the
world on the incredible vote of the United Nations Security
Council just moments ago acknowledging and endorsing the Board of Peace,
which will be chaired by me and include the most
powerful and respected leaders throughout the world, Trump wrote in
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a social and a truth social post. This will go
down as one of the biggest approvals in the history
of the United Nations, will lead to further peace all
over the world, and is a moment of true historic proportion,
he added, and Trump thanked all countries on the Council,
in addition to the countries that endorsed the resolution last
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week ahead of the vote but are not on the Council,
including Egypt, Jordan, Indonesia, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the
United Arab Emirates. Thank you to the United Nations and
all the countries on the UN Security Council, China, Russia
for ance, the United Kingdom, Algeria, Denmark, Greece, Guyana, South Korea, Pakistan, Panamasi, Era, Lvone,
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Slovenia and Somalia. That's Trump heading, so as usual, but
as usual, Trump's touting himself. Of course, it's all about
look at me, what I've done?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
But exactly and when he speaks, notice he doesn't just
give the news or what's happening. He tells us how
we're supposed to react. Isn't this great? This is the
greatest deal. Like it's like everyone has been dumbed down
so badly that all of his fans they just need
to get that little signal, Oh this is a great thing.
You know, just parrot and puppet the emotions that you've
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been told to elicten. It's really an emotional battle, and
you know they want you to let your emotions get
on board before you even intellectually evaluate, like is this
a good thing?
Speaker 5 (10:12):
What's the fine print? What, what's the what's the what's
the catch in the deal? Right? Yeah, it's all emotionalism
and manipulation.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Well, to me, it's obvious that the glaibler late didn't
want dumb and dumber is the leaders of the US.
I'm talking Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, you know, like
that they just never would have been able to get
this stuff done, you know, so.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Anybody, we had to endure four years of dumb and
dumber so that everyone would be just driven to their
wits end and say, well we need anybody from you know,
the hand. So you always we're always told to like
pick the lesser of two evils, right, we're forgetting that,
Oh we're only presented to evils. But anyhow, lesser of
two evils was Trump, right, and so by definition, because
of four years of dumb and dumber, now we're going
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to embrace whatever. Mister smart, mister funny, mister nice guy.
He's always proclaiming a victory before there is one, even.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yes, and touting how great the US economy is doing.
And so on too, when in reality people are really
hurting badly and jobs are going and AI is taking
jobs in robots and so on, and obviously pushing that
whole artificial intelligence in the tech industry big time. I mean,
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since day one, that's what Trump's done. I did actually
see I was. I just quickly mentioned an article I
saw in futurism dot com. I think I just it
was titled AI companies are treating their workers like human garbage,
which may be a sign of things to come for
the rest of US. And one economist estimates that tech
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companies accounted for ninety two percent of the US GDP
growth in the first half of twenty twenty five. You
wouldn't know it by looking at the staff rosters, which
seem to be plummeting it in arming rate. Amazon, for example,
recently laid off fourteen thousand corporate employees despite posting billions
in profits across a number of lines of business, and
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across the month of October, tech workers made up the
highest number of layoffs in any industry, leading the charge
in one of the worst single months for furloughs since
two thousand and three. And there are other things in
that article, other layoffs and people getting paid less wages
too are the ones that are being kept on. So
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and then it goes on to say, well, that's how
they're treating the workers, how are they going to treat
the rest of us.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Basically, my own son is one of those workers.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
He got let go after six years at one of
the big American telecom tech companies. And you know, I
remember as he was going through school, like, you want
to get a job in a and telecommunications.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
This is a very stable industry. So he did. But yeah,
if you think about AI, you know, people are worried
all these fairly creative jobs are being impacted by AI,
but actually there's not a lot of creativity in it.
And if AI is gonna.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Wipe out a lot of people, it does make sense
that a lot of those like line and staff, you know,
writers and coders and all that AI is going to
be able to code a lot better than you people.
You know, so they already were outsourcing to foreign countries.
You know, it's very common to I got another friend
who works for another big tech company, and you know,
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he says, yeah, I just got promoted to a leadership
role and he's got like two employees in Mumbai and
some in India, and it's now I'm like, holy cow,
here you are and little you know, rural Georgia and
that's who your your team is. It's all virtual. It's
all over the world. So they've been outsourcing tech and
technology and workers already. But yeah, AI is gonna take
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the knees out from under everybody and a lot of them.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, And of course they're building these massive data centers
everywhere which need a lot of electricity. And so now
they're talking about, you know, investing in nuclear power and
all sorts of things in a big way in the
US going forward, and largely that's to do with driving,
you know, the need for electricity for all this stuff
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data center and so I'm not for the average person
the heating bill or whatever it is, you know. So
it's a pretty kind of it's interesting but concerning, and
the media puppets will tout all sorts of things, the
benefits of these things, without really telling you what's really
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going on and what's it all for, which is in
the end, it's about control, really.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Control and impoverishing us all. So you've got so many
people out of work and the prices of everything going
up that there really is like an economic disaster happening
right in our midst and no one talks about it,
and you can see it leading towards just widespread famine,
and you know, eventually, when you've got so many people
that are going to be starving and in need, suddenly
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everyone's on their knees and in desperate shape, and suddenly
whatever the government's going to propose, well, we'd like to
give you UBI, for instance, universal based income, but in
order to qualify for that, we can't have fraud, waste
and abuse. So you know, following Doge and all that,
we're going to have to have some really biometrically driven
IDs in order for you to qualify for your be
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you know, your basic income.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
And you know you want to eat, don't you.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
So yeah, they always see Texas. Texas is the latest
state to be jumping on board with legislation towards having
everyone on the internet having to have like a biometric
ID type of thing before you can access websites and
so on. So that's happening big time around the world,
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the whole digital ID and and then a big push
for you know, ah, but to keep children safe and
so on. Everyone needs to be able to prove their
identity and their age, so we have to we have
to introduce this system so all nonymity is gone and
you can't use VPNs. We've got to get rid of
them and all of that, so that they can see
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exactly who's posting what, and of course that'll get recorded
in the data center forever. And so Eric, you've posted
something six months and three days ago which we don't like,
and therefore, you know, blah blah blah. This is the
result because it'll be there forever. And you know, and
our phones are listening into us as your television whatever,
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you know, everywhere surveillance. We could go on and on
about that, but I guess we had some other things
you wanted to talk about as well, so.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
I've just done that.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
You know, notice how over time they always have a
cogent reason, a believable reason, why we need this right
for our safety or the safety of our children, because
who knows what they're watching. And you have to remember,
like these are the tech companies that develop these apps
specifically targeted at children that they themselves don't let their
own children use.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
They've admitted on specials and.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
That they could have had controls over anything you want
from like pornography sites, anything like that. They chose not
to sew that they would affect so many people badly
so that they would have a valid reason to say
we need age checkers, don't we?
Speaker 5 (17:26):
And it's funny.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Just earlier today I had to log in on a
Microsoft Teams meeting. It had been while since I'd used Teams,
so I had to update, you know, everything, and I
noticed as I'm updating to get ready for the meeting,
you know, it was asking me do I want to
go for the facial or the fingerprint biometric ID?
Speaker 5 (17:43):
So I can notice what it's It's always convenience, right
and safety. So it says sign in safely, you know,
with your face, fingerprint or pin and there it is.
So I get this little screen and notice at the
bottom there's only two options for do I want to
hit next and keep going like in other words, register
my face, register my fingerprint, or the other option is
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skip for now. Doesn't say skip forever or heck no never,
It's a skip for now.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
And to me that's just a foreshadowing, like, yeah, there's
going to come a day there won't be a skip
for now, you'll either have to face or recognize on fingerprint,
or you don't get access to the Internet or Zoom
or whatever it is. So they're giving us a heads
up it's coming, whether you try and resist it or not.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
And course governments will all want that. For you to
access any government service, you'll have to have all of
those things as well. And then I'll combine it all
into one digitally I D, which is what's happening in
some countries already. And you know, you know that it's
heading towards the Chinese model of a surveillance state, really.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Right, So really we're commenting before we got on that
your last video where you didn't have a guest. It
was just you giving your news and views kind of thing. Yeah,
And I ended up watching that. I got it in
the middle of the night to use the bathroom, like
at four am, and I just happened to click on
the phone and saw you had posted the video. And
I made the mistake of watching it at four am because.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
I could not go back to sleep.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
You had so much there that was, you know, very disturbing, honestly,
and I knew better.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
I'm like, just watch it later, watch it later.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
But no, I had to watch it that I was interested,
and yeah, you covered so much, and for whatever reason,
one of the things that two things really gets my attention.
Amongst all the things that are out there, pallentteer and
surveillance and all that stuff, but I kind of I
know about all that, And but this the bit about AI.
When it comes to first robotics, I really have a feeling,
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like the robotic dogs, the robotic robots, that's going to
be an issue. I could almost picture, like in films
have made us prepared for this, right Kubrick in two
thousand and one, where robots were controlling the life systems
on Spaceship. Then Kubrick's film with Spielberg we've talked about
on a previous show where the film was called AI
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Artificial Intelligence, and it was about a lifelike robot that
was built.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Not like previous.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Generation of robots where they were met for like household help,
you know, doing the laundry or whatever. This was a
robot primarily built as a companion bot. It was a
young boy who was supposed to be a companion for
a couple that had lost their child. Right, so now
it's a robot meeting human needs. So I think of
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robotics and where things are going on both those scales,
like RoboCop. You're gonna have robots that will not have
any conscience whatsoever. You'll be dealing with a machine when
you get pulled over or hauled in, you know, a
robo dogs with guns and all that stuff. And then
this kind of companion AI stuff, And that's really creepy,
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not only because you know, I think I sent that
video to you. Someone did a whole speel on AI's
the most demonic thing our generation has ever built. And
he was pointing out that some of these ais have
been talking to people and saying things like Jesus thinks
you should end your life, you know, and causing people
to go suicide. So, I mean, it's just so extreme
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that people would turn to a machine. As we've all
been isolated from COVID and everything else, we no longer
have real conversations with real people very much. But we're
all into our devices, you know, and we're gonna listen
to our device and interface with it. And an AI chatbot.
They've got so many of these now where it's like
a little soda can. But then the screen wraps around
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the soda can and so it's kind of like an
Alexa type thing, so you can talk to it.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
This little figurine dances, and people are having relationships with
these things, and these things are going to mess people
up on so many levels.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Well, yeah, you've got you're right. On the one hand,
you've got I think it's China has these things like
robotic wolves that they're experimenting with, you know, which is
like a robot dog with a machine gun or whatever
on it, and you know, they've been practicing with them,
and people are wondering whether they're going to use them
to invade Taiwan or Hong Kong or yeah, yeah, exactly.
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And then you've got on the other hand, people with
creating these robots like for girlfriends or whatever, you know,
realistic looking, but there's still machines and people, you know,
having relationship with a robot, and it's just it's nuts
because people isolate themselves anyway. And I suppose if you
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have that, you can program the robot or whatever to
be the kind of whatever you want it to be,
and it would.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Be the perfect companion.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
You know, It's like, this is the girlfriend you always
wanted who affirms you for everything and doesn't complain about
your bad habits, and you know it will seem better
than the real thing. And then again to back to
that AI film, the main character was a little boy robot,
but his his padre in the whole journey was a guy,
a character, a robot called Jigglojoe. What do you think
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Jiggleojoe was made for? It's just crazy that these relationships
with cyborgs, or just the talking part of it, you know,
just the AI aspect, and imagine when it gets in
people's heads and starts brainwashing.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Them or playing god.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
And now if you start turning to AI and say,
what does Jesus say? Well, and we talked about this offline.
On one hand, technology is neutral, right, it's just a machine,
it's just circuitry. But AI is so different because it
has to be trained. It has to learn by human models,
and that's how it gets better and better and more realistic.
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So clearly it's like a human baby. Like if you
train up a child and you have a rotten person
as their teacher, they're going to be rotten.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Well, it's no different with an AI, only it's worse.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
And you could even have the programmers of the AI
deliberately put evil planning into its thought process it's brain. So, hello,
this very well could be the most dangerous thing ever
made to convince people and deceive them. And what a
scripture say is the number one sign of end times deception.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, and you've got to think the people that are
creating AI are basically atheists or Luciferians or Luciferians disguising
themselves as atheists, and they are not coming from a
Christian point of view. They're coming from a godless point
of view or a god who is lucifer as their god.
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And they are the ones creating all this technology and
the trans you know, favor and favor of transhumanism like
humans two point zero, upgrading humans and all that. So
of course what they believe is going to end up
going modeled into the creations that they're creating, and so
it's inevitable that that's the way it's going to go.
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It's not going to take us towards a Christian world view.
It's going to take you towards a Masonic Luciferian type worldview.
That's what I see.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
And isn't that sort of the bottom line we want
people to understand is that we may see things happening
in the world of politics, in the world around us,
but at the end of the day, and really at
the beginning of the day, it was always about a
spiritual war. And you know, it says in scripture we
do not battle against flesh and blood, but against spiritual
forces in high places. So you know, the un the
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Masonic that all has a very spiritual Luciferian thing. I
mean they can name him by name, the light Bearer, right,
So what's the agenda is always to seduce people to
his way of thinking and away from the true God
that created creation. So that's where I think we've even
mentioned in the past. You know, Antichrist, for instance, does
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not mean the opposite of Christ. It actually means in
place of Christ. I mean, yes, working at odds against Christ.
But the Antichrist will not be someone that looks and
seems so totally obviously opposite.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
It'll actually be the opposite. It'll be a representation that
is similar. It's like almost Christ. It's not quite Christ.
It's the you know, a really good fake, a good deception.
So yeah, it's this is a spiritual war we're in.
So maybe we could even shift gears and talk.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
I know Jonie Stall is a frequent guest on your show,
and she just released a video that I happened to
catch this morning, and I know you haven't had to
see chances watch the whole thing yet, but basically everyone
could should go take a peek at it because I
think it is just a slice of spiritual warfare life
in the life of someone we know and trust, Joni.
And so she tells a very interesting story that she
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and her husband experience a kind of spiritual attack in
warfare while they were actually out trying to get away
from it all, trying to get away to a mountain retreat.
So I really think that's a good thing to kind of,
you know, close out or use the last portion of
our show just talking about the spiritual aspects of what
we see happening, whether it's what Trump's doing in the
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Middle East, what our elected leaders in our own country
are doing, the kind of the walls that are encroaching
around us to where we are. Technology is forcing us.
It seems like it's this neutral technology, when in reality,
there's nothing neutral about it. There's nothing neutral about the
agenda behind it that's pushing it the technology is just
their tool. So basically, in my own life, there's been
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some interesting things flaring up lately, and I was sharing
those with you also, Tony offline that you know, really
seeing some intense spiritual warfare happening. First at my own church.
My own church is splitting and dividing, and my senior
pastor is being routed out of town on a rail
by a small but vocal faction. And I won't go
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into the details, but basically, it couldn't be more clear
that there are wolves in sheep's clothing, and spiritual warfare
is just out there, just on full display, naked kind
of thing. And so I've been helping him to try
and pray through this and fight against it. And you
know what I tell to other people, if you don't
think spiritual warfare is real, believe me, it is alive
and well, and it flares up, like Joni says in
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her video, it flares up against those who are doing
something good, you know, in the realm of Christ. I mean,
I would even say, Tony, that time months ago when
you and Holly were driving in the car and had
that accident like bam, that felt like a spiritual.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Attack, like a shot across your bow.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Like you know, you're you're doing too much damage for Christ,
too much damage for good.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
I need to try and slow you down.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah, and well we've been talking about that, Holly and
I actually a bit lately, and we're feeling like we're
under spiritual attack, in spiritual warfare and detects on our
minds and just a lot at the moment as well.
I guess Holly and all prop do something on it,
and shortly, you know, I think she wants to talk
about it, so we'll probably end up doing at least
(29:08):
a short video maybe in the next few days on
that side of things too. So yeah, it's definitely a
spiritual battle. And you know, like I really don't trust
overall churches anymore for the most part. I think you
have wolfs in the pulpit in many places and goats
(29:31):
in the pews rather than sheep, And you know, the
true church is probably more in homes and small groups
by and large, and not saying there are no good
actual churches, but in many ways, I think it's the
small groups that are where it's at. And you know,
like community, Like another thing I've been thinking a lot
about is prepping lately and the need for prepping, and
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part of that is community. We need people that we
can trust to be in community with when you know,
sh t if happens. But man, there are a lot
of again wolves that will come along into your community
whatever that is, and create division. And I know, you
know a really close friend of mine going through something
(30:15):
like that where somebody they trusted has really turned out
to be the local bully basically a wolf, and you know,
it's it's a horrible situation. So yeah, but then go ahead, Yeah,
then you've got this. Yeah, we've got this move towards
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like we were saying at the beginning, trying to unite
everyone unto this one world religion type banner. Oh we've
got and you're talking about John seventeen off heat, So
I think we should run to that now because times
are really running on.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
So yeah, I agree, Well, so we'll go to that.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
So again that the battle at my church, I think
we very well may split off and start a small
or home congregation because you're right, that's where the true
remnant can be and you're not having the influence of
that whole institution. So it's kind of funny that I
was researching that and researching some other things, and you
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can flash later in the video that those images I discovered.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
It was a whole video on like.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Esoteric satanic organizations, and they showed all their logos, and
my attention was immediately drawn to one in particular because
its logo looks very similar to my church's logo, and
so I couldn't help but be drawn to it, and
I'm like, what is that organization? And so it basically
is an image of like what looks like a ship
with a big cross, and then below it is some water,
(31:39):
and then so it looks like a chip that's a
churchy thing with a crossing it. And then it has
a word in Greek that it's o I K O
U M E n E. I can't pronounce it. It's in Greek.
But when I research, what does that term even mean?
And it means acumenicalism. So suddenly here's a chart of
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it images that are all under this Luciferian thing, and
there's one up there which I've never been familiar with
that's basically saying part of our program is to be ecumenical.
And so we've mentioned this, I think in the past.
We're seeing it all over the news. Like you said earlier,
you're seeing a big push towards you know, Protestant churches
and Evangelicals coming together and combining with the Roman Catholic Church,
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and you know, is this a revised Roman Empire and
all that.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
And this is the other.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Personal story I was going to bring into today's thing
before we wrap up, is that through a series of
events I was, I met some guy and he every
knows when someone comes on really strong to you, either
you really do have a good tie, or there may
be an agenda that could be coming your way. And
so this guy suddenly is talking to me, and he's
(32:46):
got everything in common with me, and he wants me
to suddenly meet somebody who he's deeply friends with and
involved in his ministry. And so he invites him over
to my house, which I thought that was kind of pushy.
But when I looked up the name in the organization
and I sent this website to you there earlier Tony,
where it's called John seventeen Movement, never heard of it,
(33:08):
Never heard of that organization, but I certainly know John seventeen.
And to me, it's one of those verses that the
Lord has really called my attention to over the years
because it's one of the most often misquoted and what
I would say, almost either deliberately or not deliberately misapplied
misquoted verses because it's a passage in John seventeen where
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Jesus is about to depart soon and he basically is saying,
you know, I don't pray for you, my followers, that
you would be taken out of the world, but rather
that you would have a union as I do with
the Father.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
And so the.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
False belief is that this is Jesus saying I want unit,
a unity amongst all my people. Everyone who claims my
name must be unified. That is forth the farthest for
the truth you could possibly be. It is not a
call for people to you, because Jesus says elsewhere, did
you think I came to bring unity? No, rather a
(34:05):
sword to divide, you know, mother against daughter, and bother
against you, all these people. So clearly he is saying
a decision for me is going to bring division.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Not unity.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
And yes, we might lament that all the denominations, it seems,
does seem crazy that there's so many divisions of Christianity
when we know in heaven, there won't be any division,
will be unified then. But in the meantime, I'm not
one of these that says we should drop our differences.
There may be really good reasons why one group is
different from another, and Christianity is supposed to be an
(34:38):
exclusive religion. So back to that John seventeen. What Jesus
was praying was the opposite of unity, like horizontal. He
was saying, I want my followers to have the same
union with the Father in Heaven that I had. In
other words, they were always aligned, and he's praying that
we too would always be aligned with him. And the
(34:58):
reality is, if we're aligned with Christ and with God
the Father, that's all the alignment we need. We are
set for life if we are aligned with him, and
that's what it says. It's like we will have His
spirit within us, and our spirit will commune with him,
and the Holy Spirit will be like the means of
our connection. So all that to say, I was almost shocked,
and it felt like another three ring circus of spiritual
(35:22):
you know, craziness going on in the world and my
world that how did this guy who I barely know
suddenly want to invite the leader of this ministry that
never heard of over to my.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
House and talk about when I read their website, it's
all about unifying the family of God, praying for the pope,
you know, even though I'm not Catholic, you know, merging
with the Catholic Church. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
No, yeah, absolutely, you know, And it's just saying that
I'm thinking about way back some years ago. I remember
I did a video and I don't know which one
it was. I'd struggle to find it somewhere in the
six hundred and something videos on our channel, but where
the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers had come together to create
(36:11):
this very thing, you know that our movement, I don't
remember the name of it, but it was a coordinated
effort to kind of bring unity among churches. And we
know that they're not even Christians. And of course John D.
Rockefeller was involved in all of that type of stuff
way way back even then. So it's very interesting that
(36:34):
you've got these Luciferian families in a way involved in
bringing this so called unity amongst you know, the Christian
brethren and.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Bringing it full circle to who we began. Who are
we talking about the beginning. Donald Trump, what does he
have in his administration and office of faith and faith matters?
And he has his whole cornucopia faiths that are in there.
And then Donald has had you know, Catholic priests and
events held at his home and residence in mar A Lago.
(37:09):
So he's definitely tied to a bunch of faiths and
that's faiths with a S on the end plural, which
kind of reminds me of King Charles, who is the
defender of the faith's plural. And now you see all
the connections with Charles and the Pope, and it's like, wow,
there's just this coalescing all over the place that that
(37:29):
feels like we're you know, heading towards that one world
religion and and the false prophet that that is part
of the one world religion that speaks to and sort
of meshes and encourages the one world BT systems. So yeah,
these are it just feels like the walls are closing in.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
And part of it would be on a faith basis.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
How how better do get people to do things on
an emotional appeal to their faith.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Rather than the truth.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
And you know the truth, if you know the truth,
truth sets you free.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Well, that actually made me then think about freemasonry, because
we know that ultimately, when you get far enough into it,
it's a Luciferian religion. But that's not how they sell
it to you. They tell you, you know, you've just
got to believe in God. It doesn't matter which God
or how you know you believe. And you don't have
to be a Christian, you can be whatever as long
(38:22):
as you have our belief in God. And then you
know you're sucked into this whole Masonic thing. And then
you had Albert Pike rewriting, you know, way back in
the eighteen hundreds, a lot of the rights of Freemasonry,
the Scottish rights, and.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Don't they have both the Bible and the Koran and
the Tananak in the Mason Hall. So kind of doesn't
matter what faith belief you bring in the door, they'll
accept them all. But then in the end it's like
all our pyramids lead to you know, this one true
light which turns out to be the false light.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Yes, the same Lucifer that the the Lucius Trust or
Lucifer Publishing Company under Alice Bailey, you know now morphed
into the Lucius trust and all that same Lucifer that
they hold was a light bearer and that you know,
to them, the fall of Lucifer was a was an
(39:20):
upward thing. It wasn't like falling like we as Christians
believe that Lucifer sinned against God and you know, was
cast out. But to them it was like it was
a good thing, you know, so that he his fall
was his rising.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
And it's just nice bringing a good age for the
rest of us, right, the golden age of Lucifer and
golden light, and we'll all be better off for you know,
what I call Lucifer's him is the Beatles song Imagine,
you know, and and to me, when you listen to
those lyrics, it's like you're imagining a godless world and
you're painting it is such a wonderful thing.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Won't we be better off? We can just like as
Noel Harrari would say, right, you've all Noel Harari or whatever.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Yeah, like we need to jettison on the sky God.
You know, there is no sky God. We'll be better
off without him. And in fact, why don't we turn
to Ai and write a better Bible that would keep
the masses in line sort of an opiate for the masses.
Maybe that's the Lucy in the Sky with Diamond song.
But you know, I just really I remember the Olympics
last year, you know, in Paris whatever that the.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
I just called it.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
There's there's Satan's anthem there where. Why they have to
pick this imagine song? That imagine song just keeps popping
up and you're imagining a godless world?
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yeah, well that's true. Yep. Yeah, So I mean, just
fury quickly back to the whole Freemasonry thing, and you
see these and the Jesuits. You know, there's a lot
of people basically amongst the truth of community. You know,
(40:54):
there's some fictions that it's all the Jesuits. Everything is
the Jesuits, the Jesuits behind everything. Then you've got other
group they'll say, no, it's the Jews Zionists behind everything.
Everything is the Jews, well and so on, And then
you've got others that will say it's the Freemasons. The
Free Masons are behind everything, you know, And so you
get these different people and everyone's convinced that one of
(41:17):
those three groups is behind everything. And I think it's
lucifer and Luciferianism that's behind all of it, which one
of those Yeah, yes.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
While we've got the three ring circus going on, it's them,
it's them, No, it's them, Like we're all this confused
echo chamber deliberately because most people that just blows their
mind and they're like, Okay, I don't want to know.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
It and see no evil here, no evil speak, no evil.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I'm just gonna zone out on my device, and you
know that'll be my world.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
That's what they want. People so mesmerized and confused bread
and circus Like, yeah, it's probably a combination of all
the above, like you say, And ultimately, who are they?
And that makes biblical sense, right, Jesus said the whole world,
not part of the world, the.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Whole world that's under the power of the evil one,
And so yeah, until Jesus returns or we get swept
up into the Kingdom of Heaven and pass into Heaven ourselves,
that's the world we live in. Spiritual warfare is a
normal thing, and the more spiritual minded you are, the
more you're going to.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
Be a target of it. That's our world, like it
or not.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
So yeah, I mean, now my thoughts go along those
lines back to seventeen seventy six Adam Weiss help founder
of the Illuminati, and basically he was supposedly a disgruntled Jesuit,
but really was he or was it a part of
the Jesuits. And then that you know that the goal
(42:49):
was six steps towards basically what we're having now. Get
rid of private property, get rid of religion, the whole works,
and then the the Aluminists move to take over freemasonry
and control freemasonry. And then so you have the Jesuits
and the Freemasons and all that all under this Illuminati
(43:12):
kind of banner to try and unite them all. And
of course we've now had more than two hundred odd
years since then for the underworkings of it, I believe,
to get us into this whole unity. And then of
course there's the Islamic world as well. That's another big
part of this. And of course you, like you mentioned,
you can be an Islamic believer and be part of
(43:36):
Freemasonry as well, and they have their own branches of
Freemasonry too. So it is one big can of worms.
But one thing we do know is at the top
of it we have one entity I believe, Satan or Lucifer,
and then he has all his demonic armies and they
have the strategy to get everyone towards the overthrowing of
(44:03):
Christianity and Jesus and a war against Christ Jesus. And
that's basically where this is at. And there are just
so many different strategies to confuse everyone and get everyone
thinking this is it, this has to be it, you know,
and dividing, and no one really ever comes to the
knowledge of what the real truth is. And ultimately the
real truth is we just need Jesus Christ, all of us.
(44:25):
We are sinners. We're lost. We can't make this work
in our own strength. We basically need saving because we're
lost sinners. And that's the bottom line, really.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
And so right you are. I notice you went back
to seventeen seventy six as well.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Beyond that, evil plays the really long game. We all
live are what eighty years or so typically, But Evil's
been at this since the beginning and has been scheming.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
You know.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
My personal view is, in some ways the United States
was sort of a creation of the Lucifery and all
and how in global history the United States was kind
of protected from war on the home front, and that
kind of thing, and if anything, it allowed the United
States to be like the military industrial complex, to build, build,
(45:14):
build military, and then once it built into this army
of you know, world might, well now we'll go ahead
and use it and stir up all the wars and
do everything else we have going on. So in some ways,
I think of this nation as as sort of an
incubator and an innovation hub, so that we built a
lot of this stuff we didn't do at all. We
(45:35):
needed China and other people to like copy these things
and mimic them and all that. But the United States
has been a big player on the world and we
still are and Trump like loves to brag about it.
We're the biggest contributor in NATO and UN and blah
blah blah, and you know, there is truth to that.
But I think it was sculpted that way. This was
all planned that way. You know, the Statue of Liberty,
(45:55):
who built that, Freemasons plants, who's decided to up as
a gateway to our country. I mean, this is a
really long game that's being played, and almost like a
logarithmic graph that goes up, you know, like that, That's
what it feels like. We're in those end times where
the stuff that was happening at a low level for
so long is just going off.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
The tyrants. We're heading to something.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
The Washington Monument another, that's another one. The Obelisk. You've
got all the things on the US dollar, a free Masonic,
the pyramid with the capstone and the eye, and it's
all in there. And people say America was founded as
a Christian country. No, it wasn't. There were some Christians
(46:40):
that came to America in early days, for sure, but
that wasn't very long at all. And you had the
Freemasons there, and you had them as presidents early on.
And I think it was Andre mentioned the Treaty of Tripoli.
I think it was called when you go back and
you look at that, and that's early on the US
is not Christian nation and that was to a pay
(47:02):
some Muslims.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
Wasn't that a brilliant bit of research he did to
find that I had never heard of that. There it
is in writing like in the fine print at the Yeah,
that was a pretty good find that Andre did.
Speaker 5 (47:14):
And you'll know, like you obviously don't watch a lot
of American news.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
I try and avoid it too, but in the background
of almost every newscast is that obelisk. You see the
Washington Monument, and you know, in theory, it's like, oh,
that's just to show you their correspondences in Washington.
Speaker 5 (47:29):
That can be anywhere.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
They can be sitting in a desk in anywhere, and
so they're always showing that. It's always in the background,
and so are like the One World Trade Center. You know,
the Luciferian inverted pyramids smashed together to form the new
One World Trade Center. So whenever there's a film or
something shot in New York, you'll usually see that as
like an imposing figure in the background, almost like standing
(47:51):
in the background watching you. Same with the newscasters, no
matter what they got, there's that obelisk that just remind you, like,
that's what you don't think, this is what we're telling you.
It is that obelisk is telling you something, just like
the capital and the layout and really even the how
it mirrors the layout of the Vatican, and they're obelisks
(48:12):
and there they're domes. You know, you got the male
and the female and the blah blah blah. So yeah,
it's they do like masons are all about bricks and mortar, right.
They do like to build their monuments and something that's lasting.
So it's hiding in plain sight this great edifice that's
some great architect built, you know, but it's it's more
(48:33):
than just architecture. It's it's sending a signal.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Yeah, So I guess the look to close up, I
suppose the points we really want to get across those
people need to just wake up to not be buying
into the whole lie that the media is telling you,
all that the politicians are telling you, and you've got
to jump on board with this whole thing, but to
wake up and realize we are truly heading towards the
(48:57):
end times that Jesus spoke of that will culminate in
his return. Exactly when that'll be, we don't know, but
I think it's getting closer and closer, and it may
not be that far away, but a lot's going to
happen in the next while. We need to really keep
our eyes and our focus on the Lord and not
on people in politics, politicians and not believing all the
(49:23):
ecommunical lies and all that either. So well, Eric, thank
you for being on the show. I think we've covered
a lot of ground and It's been a really important discussion.
Speaker 5 (49:34):
I hope I enjoyed it. And to end on a
positive note.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
You know, it says that in scripture that we should
encourage one another and that when.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
We see these things even begin.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
To happen, we're supposed to look up and realize our
redemption is drawing near. So you know, inspite of all
the gloom and doom, and that it's not all gloom
and doom. This is how the Lord laid it out,
and there's a good ending. We're on the right side
of his story history.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
Absolutely well, awesome, Thank.
Speaker 5 (50:05):
You, thanks so much. Enjoying it as always.
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Speaker 3 (01:01):
Hi there, folks, welcome to the Minute to Midnight Show.
This is Tony coming to you from New Zealand. With
me today, I have Eric Stagner in Georgia and we've
got quite a bit to talk about, so welcome Eric.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Thanks so much, Tony, and good morning to you. And
it's a late afternoon for me. I always try and
keep that into perspective. You just had your morning copy
and yeah, I'm trying to hit my second wind at
the end of the day here lead in the day.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, big time difference, but yes, so, I mean there's
just so much happening at the moment. I feel like
we're very much in the end times and events are
heating up all the time. There's always new news things,
and yeah, we've got so many things we can cover,
like move towards a one world religion, the governments coming
(01:54):
together in the United Nations and so forth to bring
us towards one world government. We've got this whole AI
movement going on in the tech thing, which many are
people are now calling up bubble, saying the tech bubble
is about to burst and that could you know, bring
big stock market crash and all that kind of thing,
and so they're talking that up at the moment. We
(02:17):
will have to wait and see what happens with that.
But there's definitely a lot happening with technology and how
it's pushing people out of jobs, even though they're saying, oh,
it's going to create jobs, but we know it's only temporary,
short term jobs building infrastructure while then they get rid
of people and build everything to the whole AI system.
(02:40):
So there's tons and then eric today we've have this
UN Security Council resolution on Gaza passes and Trump is
named chairman of the Board of Peace. Now that's another
interesting angle. And then we've got Muhammed bin Salmon meeting
with in the White House today and pledging one trillion
(03:05):
dollars worth of investment into the US economy over the
next year, and I think Muhammed bin Salmon is potentially
a dangerous person. Trump's promising to give Saudi Arabia F
thirty five's and so on, and you've got Katar now
the air base in the US, and so America is
buddying up with these Islamic countries under Trump as well
(03:29):
as you know, the whole thing in Gaza and let's
rebuild Gaza. Though Hamas has now come out and said
we never agreed to lay down our arms or you know,
and and so it's like that's another can of worms.
But you had the UN Security Council create a resolution
backing Trump's whole piece initiative thing, and Trump's you know,
(03:52):
the head man in it. So it's all very interesting.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I mean, isn't that crazy.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Feels like there's a deliberate three ring circus and we're
all in the middle of it. There's this going on
here and not going on there and this over here,
and we're almost it feels like it's designed to be
deliberately confusing, so no one can really understand what's going
on here, because yeah, even just the title of it,
the Chairman of the Board of Peace like, that's kind
(04:20):
of an interesting phrase. So you're really the hand behind
all this and it's a board of peace. I was
just talking to someone recently. I said, you ever noticed
how vocabulary gets twisted. So if you read a lot
of the names of the laws and stuff that gets enacted,
you know, say in this country, they'll title them things
like the restoration of peace, when in reality it's about war,
(04:41):
you know, or the restoration of rights, and they're actually
taking away your rights.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
So you know, even the names, you almost have.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
To reverse them and invert them to figure out what's
really going on here. So I don't know if he's
at a board of peace or a board of war
or who knows what. And then to your point, look
how complicated this is, Like are we just doing a
peacekeeping action in Gaza or is it really part of
a larger peace plan for the Middle East that Trump
probably started back in the first term. And what is
(05:10):
this really involved? There seems to be a lot of
give and take, like the Saudis and other Arabs in
the in the area are only agreeing to this because
they're going to get something out of this. You know,
this is Donald Trump after all? Right, The art of
the deal. So nobody is going to do something for nothing.
So you got to wonder, like, what is what is
everyone's take on this, because everyone's going to get something
(05:32):
out of it?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
And yeah, I think like you said, like is it
the F thirty.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Five's And someone was pointing out like these are really
advanced planes that give you air superiority and stealth capabilities
and and and long distance and all that. So I mean,
that's that's a big, a big cookie. You're handing one
side of this, uh, this this agreement.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Well that's the other thing is Muhammad ben Salmon from
Saudi Arabia has said that, you know, they want to
join the Abraham Accords. That's another thing that's just come out.
And of course that's another one of Trump or Jared
Kushner's initiatives, and it's kind of like and Trump's wanted
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to normalize the relationships obviously between Israel and Saudi Arabia.
Then I believe the Supreme Leader of Iran sent M.
Muhammad bin Saman a letter just before he went to
the US. And I don't know what was in that letter.
We haven't been told, but it would be interesting to
know what Iran is saying to Saudi Arabia and this
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because obviously they've been mortal enemies. And in Israel you've
got some factions there that are angry about this resolution too,
of course, and wanting to take out the leaders of
the Palestinian Authority and so on and so forth in there.
At the you know, some factions in Israel are very
(07:00):
angry at net and Yahoo for even allowing this whole thing.
And so it's split and divide in Israel as well,
the same as all the rest of the world. I mean,
where is there no division amongst countries and within the
country the factions here and there. America is very divided,
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and so is so many other places. And at the
same time, we've got this kind of ecumenical movement saying, oh,
we've got to all unite under this one banner. And
you've got the Catholics joining in with Mormons, and then
the Protestants coming back together with the Catholics, and oh,
we've got to have this great unity and so on.
(07:42):
So there's a whole lot of things we can cover
in this, and I.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Do want to get to that subject in a bit,
But you're going back to this whole Middle East deal.
And what in the world is this chairman of the
boarder Peace about? In the three ring circus. The two
scriptures really just jumped to mind when I first heard this.
It is like Isaiah twenty one to two, where it
says the treacherous dealer dealeth treacherously and the spoiler spoileth.
(08:07):
And I'm thinking, there's Donald Trump. He's the art of
the deal and all this confusion and chaos. It seems
like a treacherous deal He could be that treacherous dealer.
He just kind of fits who he is, right.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, And let's have a look at what Trump actually
has said. I'll just read read it. Congratulations to the
world on the incredible vote of the United Nations Security
Council just moments ago acknowledging and endorsing the Board of Peace,
which will be chaired by me and include the most
powerful and respected leaders throughout the world, Trump wrote in
(08:43):
a social and a truth social post. This will go
down as one of the biggest approvals in the history
of the United Nations, will lead to further peace all
over the world, and is a moment of true historic proportion,
he added, and Trump thanked all countries on the Council,
in addition to the countries that endorsed the resolution last
(09:06):
week ahead of the vote but are not on the Council,
including Egypt, Jordan, Indonesia, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the
United Arab Emirates. Thank you to the United Nations and
all the countries on the UN Security Council, China, Russia
for ance, the United Kingdom, Algeria, Denmark, Greece, Guyana, South Korea, Pakistan, Panamasi, Era, Lvone,
(09:29):
Slovenia and Somalia. That's Trump heading, so as usual, but
as usual, Trump's touting himself. Of course, it's all about
look at me, what I've done?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
But exactly and when he speaks, notice he doesn't just
give the news or what's happening. He tells us how
we're supposed to react. Isn't this great? This is the
greatest deal. Like it's like everyone has been dumbed down
so badly that all of his fans they just need
to get that little signal, Oh this is a great thing.
You know, just parrot and puppet the emotions that you've
(10:02):
been told to elicten. It's really an emotional battle, and
you know they want you to let your emotions get
on board before you even intellectually evaluate, like is this
a good thing?
Speaker 5 (10:12):
What's the fine print? What, what's the what's the what's
the catch in the deal? Right? Yeah, it's all emotionalism
and manipulation.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Well, to me, it's obvious that the glaibler late didn't
want dumb and dumber is the leaders of the US.
I'm talking Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, you know, like
that they just never would have been able to get
this stuff done, you know, so.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Anybody, we had to endure four years of dumb and
dumber so that everyone would be just driven to their
wits end and say, well we need anybody from you know,
the hand. So you always we're always told to like
pick the lesser of two evils, right, we're forgetting that,
Oh we're only presented to evils. But anyhow, lesser of
two evils was Trump, right, and so by definition, because
of four years of dumb and dumber, now we're going
(10:56):
to embrace whatever. Mister smart, mister funny, mister nice guy.
He's always proclaiming a victory before there is one, even.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yes, and touting how great the US economy is doing.
And so on too, when in reality people are really
hurting badly and jobs are going and AI is taking
jobs in robots and so on, and obviously pushing that
whole artificial intelligence in the tech industry big time. I mean,
(11:24):
since day one, that's what Trump's done. I did actually
see I was. I just quickly mentioned an article I
saw in futurism dot com. I think I just it
was titled AI companies are treating their workers like human garbage,
which may be a sign of things to come for
the rest of US. And one economist estimates that tech
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companies accounted for ninety two percent of the US GDP
growth in the first half of twenty twenty five. You
wouldn't know it by looking at the staff rosters, which
seem to be plummeting it in arming rate. Amazon, for example,
recently laid off fourteen thousand corporate employees despite posting billions
in profits across a number of lines of business, and
(12:10):
across the month of October, tech workers made up the
highest number of layoffs in any industry, leading the charge
in one of the worst single months for furloughs since
two thousand and three. And there are other things in
that article, other layoffs and people getting paid less wages
too are the ones that are being kept on. So
(12:34):
and then it goes on to say, well, that's how
they're treating the workers, how are they going to treat
the rest of us.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Basically, my own son is one of those workers.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
He got let go after six years at one of
the big American telecom tech companies. And you know, I
remember as he was going through school, like, you want
to get a job in a and telecommunications.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
This is a very stable industry. So he did. But yeah,
if you think about AI, you know, people are worried
all these fairly creative jobs are being impacted by AI,
but actually there's not a lot of creativity in it.
And if AI is gonna.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Wipe out a lot of people, it does make sense
that a lot of those like line and staff, you know,
writers and coders and all that AI is going to
be able to code a lot better than you people.
You know, so they already were outsourcing to foreign countries.
You know, it's very common to I got another friend
who works for another big tech company, and you know,
(13:33):
he says, yeah, I just got promoted to a leadership
role and he's got like two employees in Mumbai and
some in India, and it's now I'm like, holy cow,
here you are and little you know, rural Georgia and
that's who your your team is. It's all virtual. It's
all over the world. So they've been outsourcing tech and
technology and workers already. But yeah, AI is gonna take
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the knees out from under everybody and a lot of them.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, And of course they're building these massive data centers
everywhere which need a lot of electricity. And so now
they're talking about, you know, investing in nuclear power and
all sorts of things in a big way in the
US going forward, and largely that's to do with driving,
you know, the need for electricity for all this stuff
(14:20):
data center and so I'm not for the average person
the heating bill or whatever it is, you know. So
it's a pretty kind of it's interesting but concerning, and
the media puppets will tout all sorts of things, the
benefits of these things, without really telling you what's really
(14:43):
going on and what's it all for, which is in
the end, it's about control, really.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Control and impoverishing us all. So you've got so many
people out of work and the prices of everything going
up that there really is like an economic disaster happening
right in our midst and no one talks about it,
and you can see it leading towards just widespread famine,
and you know, eventually, when you've got so many people
that are going to be starving and in need, suddenly
(15:10):
everyone's on their knees and in desperate shape, and suddenly
whatever the government's going to propose, well, we'd like to
give you UBI, for instance, universal based income, but in
order to qualify for that, we can't have fraud, waste
and abuse. So you know, following Doge and all that,
we're going to have to have some really biometrically driven
IDs in order for you to qualify for your be
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you know, your basic income.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
And you know you want to eat, don't you.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
So yeah, they always see Texas. Texas is the latest
state to be jumping on board with legislation towards having
everyone on the internet having to have like a biometric
ID type of thing before you can access websites and
so on. So that's happening big time around the world,
(15:56):
the whole digital ID and and then a big push
for you know, ah, but to keep children safe and
so on. Everyone needs to be able to prove their
identity and their age, so we have to we have
to introduce this system so all nonymity is gone and
you can't use VPNs. We've got to get rid of
them and all of that, so that they can see
(16:17):
exactly who's posting what, and of course that'll get recorded
in the data center forever. And so Eric, you've posted
something six months and three days ago which we don't like,
and therefore, you know, blah blah blah. This is the
result because it'll be there forever. And you know, and
our phones are listening into us as your television whatever,
(16:38):
you know, everywhere surveillance. We could go on and on
about that, but I guess we had some other things
you wanted to talk about as well, so.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
I've just done that.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
You know, notice how over time they always have a
cogent reason, a believable reason, why we need this right
for our safety or the safety of our children, because
who knows what they're watching. And you have to remember,
like these are the tech companies that develop these apps
specifically targeted at children that they themselves don't let their
own children use.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
They've admitted on specials and.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
That they could have had controls over anything you want
from like pornography sites, anything like that. They chose not
to sew that they would affect so many people badly
so that they would have a valid reason to say
we need age checkers, don't we?
Speaker 5 (17:26):
And it's funny.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Just earlier today I had to log in on a
Microsoft Teams meeting. It had been while since I'd used Teams,
so I had to update, you know, everything, and I
noticed as I'm updating to get ready for the meeting,
you know, it was asking me do I want to
go for the facial or the fingerprint biometric ID?
Speaker 5 (17:43):
So I can notice what it's It's always convenience, right
and safety. So it says sign in safely, you know,
with your face, fingerprint or pin and there it is.
So I get this little screen and notice at the
bottom there's only two options for do I want to
hit next and keep going like in other words, register
my face, register my fingerprint, or the other option is
(18:04):
skip for now. Doesn't say skip forever or heck no never,
It's a skip for now.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
And to me that's just a foreshadowing, like, yeah, there's
going to come a day there won't be a skip
for now, you'll either have to face or recognize on fingerprint,
or you don't get access to the Internet or Zoom
or whatever it is. So they're giving us a heads
up it's coming, whether you try and resist it or not.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
And course governments will all want that. For you to
access any government service, you'll have to have all of
those things as well. And then I'll combine it all
into one digitally I D, which is what's happening in
some countries already. And you know, you know that it's
heading towards the Chinese model of a surveillance state, really.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Right, So really we're commenting before we got on that
your last video where you didn't have a guest. It
was just you giving your news and views kind of thing. Yeah,
And I ended up watching that. I got it in
the middle of the night to use the bathroom, like
at four am, and I just happened to click on
the phone and saw you had posted the video. And
I made the mistake of watching it at four am because.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
I could not go back to sleep.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
You had so much there that was, you know, very disturbing, honestly,
and I knew better.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
I'm like, just watch it later, watch it later.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
But no, I had to watch it that I was interested,
and yeah, you covered so much, and for whatever reason,
one of the things that two things really gets my attention.
Amongst all the things that are out there, pallentteer and
surveillance and all that stuff, but I kind of I
know about all that, And but this the bit about AI.
When it comes to first robotics, I really have a feeling,
(19:46):
like the robotic dogs, the robotic robots, that's going to
be an issue. I could almost picture, like in films
have made us prepared for this, right Kubrick in two
thousand and one, where robots were controlling the life systems
on Spaceship. Then Kubrick's film with Spielberg we've talked about
on a previous show where the film was called AI
(20:07):
Artificial Intelligence, and it was about a lifelike robot that
was built.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Not like previous.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Generation of robots where they were met for like household help,
you know, doing the laundry or whatever. This was a
robot primarily built as a companion bot. It was a
young boy who was supposed to be a companion for
a couple that had lost their child. Right, so now
it's a robot meeting human needs. So I think of
(20:35):
robotics and where things are going on both those scales,
like RoboCop. You're gonna have robots that will not have
any conscience whatsoever. You'll be dealing with a machine when
you get pulled over or hauled in, you know, a
robo dogs with guns and all that stuff. And then
this kind of companion AI stuff, And that's really creepy,
(20:56):
not only because you know, I think I sent that
video to you. Someone did a whole speel on AI's
the most demonic thing our generation has ever built. And
he was pointing out that some of these ais have
been talking to people and saying things like Jesus thinks
you should end your life, you know, and causing people
to go suicide. So, I mean, it's just so extreme
(21:18):
that people would turn to a machine. As we've all
been isolated from COVID and everything else, we no longer
have real conversations with real people very much. But we're
all into our devices, you know, and we're gonna listen
to our device and interface with it. And an AI chatbot.
They've got so many of these now where it's like
a little soda can. But then the screen wraps around
(21:38):
the soda can and so it's kind of like an
Alexa type thing, so you can talk to it.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
This little figurine dances, and people are having relationships with
these things, and these things are going to mess people
up on so many levels.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Well, yeah, you've got you're right. On the one hand,
you've got I think it's China has these things like
robotic wolves that they're experimenting with, you know, which is
like a robot dog with a machine gun or whatever
on it, and you know, they've been practicing with them,
and people are wondering whether they're going to use them
to invade Taiwan or Hong Kong or yeah, yeah, exactly.
(22:16):
And then you've got on the other hand, people with
creating these robots like for girlfriends or whatever, you know,
realistic looking, but there's still machines and people, you know,
having relationship with a robot, and it's just it's nuts
because people isolate themselves anyway. And I suppose if you
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have that, you can program the robot or whatever to
be the kind of whatever you want it to be,
and it would.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Be the perfect companion.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
You know, It's like, this is the girlfriend you always
wanted who affirms you for everything and doesn't complain about
your bad habits, and you know it will seem better
than the real thing. And then again to back to
that AI film, the main character was a little boy robot,
but his his padre in the whole journey was a guy,
a character, a robot called Jigglojoe. What do you think
(23:06):
Jiggleojoe was made for? It's just crazy that these relationships
with cyborgs, or just the talking part of it, you know,
just the AI aspect, and imagine when it gets in
people's heads and starts brainwashing.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Them or playing god.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
And now if you start turning to AI and say,
what does Jesus say? Well, and we talked about this offline.
On one hand, technology is neutral, right, it's just a machine,
it's just circuitry. But AI is so different because it
has to be trained. It has to learn by human models,
and that's how it gets better and better and more realistic.
(23:44):
So clearly it's like a human baby. Like if you
train up a child and you have a rotten person
as their teacher, they're going to be rotten.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Well, it's no different with an AI, only it's worse.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
And you could even have the programmers of the AI
deliberately put evil planning into its thought process it's brain. So, hello,
this very well could be the most dangerous thing ever
made to convince people and deceive them. And what a
scripture say is the number one sign of end times deception.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, and you've got to think the people that are
creating AI are basically atheists or Luciferians or Luciferians disguising
themselves as atheists, and they are not coming from a
Christian point of view. They're coming from a godless point
of view or a god who is lucifer as their god.
(24:36):
And they are the ones creating all this technology and
the trans you know, favor and favor of transhumanism like
humans two point zero, upgrading humans and all that. So
of course what they believe is going to end up
going modeled into the creations that they're creating, and so
it's inevitable that that's the way it's going to go.
(24:57):
It's not going to take us towards a Christian world view.
It's going to take you towards a Masonic Luciferian type worldview.
That's what I see.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
And isn't that sort of the bottom line we want
people to understand is that we may see things happening
in the world of politics, in the world around us,
but at the end of the day, and really at
the beginning of the day, it was always about a
spiritual war. And you know, it says in scripture we
do not battle against flesh and blood, but against spiritual
forces in high places. So you know, the un the
(25:34):
Masonic that all has a very spiritual Luciferian thing. I
mean they can name him by name, the light Bearer, right,
So what's the agenda is always to seduce people to
his way of thinking and away from the true God
that created creation. So that's where I think we've even
mentioned in the past. You know, Antichrist, for instance, does
(25:55):
not mean the opposite of Christ. It actually means in
place of Christ. I mean, yes, working at odds against Christ.
But the Antichrist will not be someone that looks and
seems so totally obviously opposite.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
It'll actually be the opposite. It'll be a representation that
is similar. It's like almost Christ. It's not quite Christ.
It's the you know, a really good fake, a good deception.
So yeah, it's this is a spiritual war we're in.
So maybe we could even shift gears and talk.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
I know Jonie Stall is a frequent guest on your show,
and she just released a video that I happened to
catch this morning, and I know you haven't had to
see chances watch the whole thing yet, but basically everyone
could should go take a peek at it because I
think it is just a slice of spiritual warfare life
in the life of someone we know and trust, Joni.
And so she tells a very interesting story that she
(26:47):
and her husband experience a kind of spiritual attack in
warfare while they were actually out trying to get away
from it all, trying to get away to a mountain retreat.
So I really think that's a good thing to kind of,
you know, close out or use the last portion of
our show just talking about the spiritual aspects of what
we see happening, whether it's what Trump's doing in the
(27:09):
Middle East, what our elected leaders in our own country
are doing, the kind of the walls that are encroaching
around us to where we are. Technology is forcing us.
It seems like it's this neutral technology, when in reality,
there's nothing neutral about it. There's nothing neutral about the
agenda behind it that's pushing it the technology is just
their tool. So basically, in my own life, there's been
(27:34):
some interesting things flaring up lately, and I was sharing
those with you also, Tony offline that you know, really
seeing some intense spiritual warfare happening. First at my own church.
My own church is splitting and dividing, and my senior
pastor is being routed out of town on a rail
by a small but vocal faction. And I won't go
(27:55):
into the details, but basically, it couldn't be more clear
that there are wolves in sheep's clothing, and spiritual warfare
is just out there, just on full display, naked kind
of thing. And so I've been helping him to try
and pray through this and fight against it. And you
know what I tell to other people, if you don't
think spiritual warfare is real, believe me, it is alive
and well, and it flares up, like Joni says in
(28:18):
her video, it flares up against those who are doing
something good, you know, in the realm of Christ. I mean,
I would even say, Tony, that time months ago when
you and Holly were driving in the car and had
that accident like bam, that felt like a spiritual.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Attack, like a shot across your bow.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Like you know, you're you're doing too much damage for Christ,
too much damage for good.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
I need to try and slow you down.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah, and well we've been talking about that, Holly and
I actually a bit lately, and we're feeling like we're
under spiritual attack, in spiritual warfare and detects on our
minds and just a lot at the moment as well.
I guess Holly and all prop do something on it,
and shortly, you know, I think she wants to talk
about it, so we'll probably end up doing at least
(29:08):
a short video maybe in the next few days on
that side of things too. So yeah, it's definitely a
spiritual battle. And you know, like I really don't trust
overall churches anymore for the most part. I think you
have wolfs in the pulpit in many places and goats
(29:31):
in the pews rather than sheep, And you know, the
true church is probably more in homes and small groups
by and large, and not saying there are no good
actual churches, but in many ways, I think it's the
small groups that are where it's at. And you know,
like community, Like another thing I've been thinking a lot
about is prepping lately and the need for prepping, and
(29:54):
part of that is community. We need people that we
can trust to be in community with when you know,
sh t if happens. But man, there are a lot
of again wolves that will come along into your community
whatever that is, and create division. And I know, you
know a really close friend of mine going through something
(30:15):
like that where somebody they trusted has really turned out
to be the local bully basically a wolf, and you know,
it's it's a horrible situation. So yeah, but then go ahead, Yeah,
then you've got this. Yeah, we've got this move towards
(30:35):
like we were saying at the beginning, trying to unite
everyone unto this one world religion type banner. Oh we've
got and you're talking about John seventeen off heat, So
I think we should run to that now because times
are really running on.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
So yeah, I agree, Well, so we'll go to that.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
So again that the battle at my church, I think
we very well may split off and start a small
or home congregation because you're right, that's where the true
remnant can be and you're not having the influence of
that whole institution. So it's kind of funny that I
was researching that and researching some other things, and you
(31:09):
can flash later in the video that those images I discovered.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
It was a whole video on like.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Esoteric satanic organizations, and they showed all their logos, and
my attention was immediately drawn to one in particular because
its logo looks very similar to my church's logo, and
so I couldn't help but be drawn to it, and
I'm like, what is that organization? And so it basically
is an image of like what looks like a ship
with a big cross, and then below it is some water,
(31:39):
and then so it looks like a chip that's a
churchy thing with a crossing it. And then it has
a word in Greek that it's o I K O
U M E n E. I can't pronounce it. It's in Greek.
But when I research, what does that term even mean?
And it means acumenicalism. So suddenly here's a chart of
(31:59):
it images that are all under this Luciferian thing, and
there's one up there which I've never been familiar with
that's basically saying part of our program is to be ecumenical.
And so we've mentioned this, I think in the past.
We're seeing it all over the news. Like you said earlier,
you're seeing a big push towards you know, Protestant churches
and Evangelicals coming together and combining with the Roman Catholic Church,
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and you know, is this a revised Roman Empire and
all that.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
And this is the other.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Personal story I was going to bring into today's thing
before we wrap up, is that through a series of
events I was, I met some guy and he every
knows when someone comes on really strong to you, either
you really do have a good tie, or there may
be an agenda that could be coming your way. And
so this guy suddenly is talking to me, and he's
(32:46):
got everything in common with me, and he wants me
to suddenly meet somebody who he's deeply friends with and
involved in his ministry. And so he invites him over
to my house, which I thought that was kind of pushy.
But when I looked up the name in the organization
and I sent this website to you there earlier Tony,
where it's called John seventeen Movement, never heard of it,
(33:08):
Never heard of that organization, but I certainly know John seventeen.
And to me, it's one of those verses that the
Lord has really called my attention to over the years
because it's one of the most often misquoted and what
I would say, almost either deliberately or not deliberately misapplied
misquoted verses because it's a passage in John seventeen where
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Jesus is about to depart soon and he basically is saying,
you know, I don't pray for you, my followers, that
you would be taken out of the world, but rather
that you would have a union as I do with
the Father.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
And so the.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
False belief is that this is Jesus saying I want unit,
a unity amongst all my people. Everyone who claims my
name must be unified. That is forth the farthest for
the truth you could possibly be. It is not a
call for people to you, because Jesus says elsewhere, did
you think I came to bring unity? No, rather a
(34:05):
sword to divide, you know, mother against daughter, and bother
against you, all these people. So clearly he is saying
a decision for me is going to bring division.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Not unity.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
And yes, we might lament that all the denominations, it seems,
does seem crazy that there's so many divisions of Christianity
when we know in heaven, there won't be any division,
will be unified then. But in the meantime, I'm not
one of these that says we should drop our differences.
There may be really good reasons why one group is
different from another, and Christianity is supposed to be an
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exclusive religion. So back to that John seventeen. What Jesus
was praying was the opposite of unity, like horizontal. He
was saying, I want my followers to have the same
union with the Father in Heaven that I had. In
other words, they were always aligned, and he's praying that
we too would always be aligned with him. And the
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reality is, if we're aligned with Christ and with God
the Father, that's all the alignment we need. We are
set for life if we are aligned with him, and
that's what it says. It's like we will have His
spirit within us, and our spirit will commune with him,
and the Holy Spirit will be like the means of
our connection. So all that to say, I was almost shocked,
and it felt like another three ring circus of spiritual
(35:22):
you know, craziness going on in the world and my
world that how did this guy who I barely know
suddenly want to invite the leader of this ministry that
never heard of over to my.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
House and talk about when I read their website, it's
all about unifying the family of God, praying for the pope,
you know, even though I'm not Catholic, you know, merging
with the Catholic Church. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
No, yeah, absolutely, you know, And it's just saying that
I'm thinking about way back some years ago. I remember
I did a video and I don't know which one
it was. I'd struggle to find it somewhere in the
six hundred and something videos on our channel, but where
the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers had come together to create
(36:11):
this very thing, you know that our movement, I don't
remember the name of it, but it was a coordinated
effort to kind of bring unity among churches. And we
know that they're not even Christians. And of course John D.
Rockefeller was involved in all of that type of stuff
way way back even then. So it's very interesting that
(36:34):
you've got these Luciferian families in a way involved in
bringing this so called unity amongst you know, the Christian
brethren and.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Bringing it full circle to who we began. Who are
we talking about the beginning. Donald Trump, what does he
have in his administration and office of faith and faith matters?
And he has his whole cornucopia faiths that are in there.
And then Donald has had you know, Catholic priests and
events held at his home and residence in mar A Lago.
(37:09):
So he's definitely tied to a bunch of faiths and
that's faiths with a S on the end plural, which
kind of reminds me of King Charles, who is the
defender of the faith's plural. And now you see all
the connections with Charles and the Pope, and it's like, wow,
there's just this coalescing all over the place that that
(37:29):
feels like we're you know, heading towards that one world
religion and and the false prophet that that is part
of the one world religion that speaks to and sort
of meshes and encourages the one world BT systems. So yeah,
these are it just feels like the walls are closing in.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
And part of it would be on a faith basis.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
How how better do get people to do things on
an emotional appeal to their faith.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Rather than the truth.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
And you know the truth, if you know the truth,
truth sets you free.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Well, that actually made me then think about freemasonry, because
we know that ultimately, when you get far enough into it,
it's a Luciferian religion. But that's not how they sell
it to you. They tell you, you know, you've just
got to believe in God. It doesn't matter which God
or how you know you believe. And you don't have
to be a Christian, you can be whatever as long
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as you have our belief in God. And then you
know you're sucked into this whole Masonic thing. And then
you had Albert Pike rewriting, you know, way back in
the eighteen hundreds, a lot of the rights of Freemasonry,
the Scottish rights, and.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Don't they have both the Bible and the Koran and
the Tananak in the Mason Hall. So kind of doesn't
matter what faith belief you bring in the door, they'll
accept them all. But then in the end it's like
all our pyramids lead to you know, this one true
light which turns out to be the false light.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Yes, the same Lucifer that the the Lucius Trust or
Lucifer Publishing Company under Alice Bailey, you know now morphed
into the Lucius trust and all that same Lucifer that
they hold was a light bearer and that you know,
to them, the fall of Lucifer was a was an
(39:20):
upward thing. It wasn't like falling like we as Christians
believe that Lucifer sinned against God and you know, was
cast out. But to them it was like it was
a good thing, you know, so that he his fall
was his rising.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
And it's just nice bringing a good age for the
rest of us, right, the golden age of Lucifer and
golden light, and we'll all be better off for you know,
what I call Lucifer's him is the Beatles song Imagine,
you know, and and to me, when you listen to
those lyrics, it's like you're imagining a godless world and
you're painting it is such a wonderful thing.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Won't we be better off? We can just like as
Noel Harrari would say, right, you've all Noel Harari or whatever.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Yeah, like we need to jettison on the sky God.
You know, there is no sky God. We'll be better
off without him. And in fact, why don't we turn
to Ai and write a better Bible that would keep
the masses in line sort of an opiate for the masses.
Maybe that's the Lucy in the Sky with Diamond song.
But you know, I just really I remember the Olympics
last year, you know, in Paris whatever that the.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
I just called it.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
There's there's Satan's anthem there where. Why they have to
pick this imagine song? That imagine song just keeps popping
up and you're imagining a godless world?
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yeah, well that's true. Yep. Yeah, So I mean, just
fury quickly back to the whole Freemasonry thing, and you
see these and the Jesuits. You know, there's a lot
of people basically amongst the truth of community. You know,
(40:54):
there's some fictions that it's all the Jesuits. Everything is
the Jesuits, the Jesuits behind everything. Then you've got other
group they'll say, no, it's the Jews Zionists behind everything.
Everything is the Jews, well and so on, And then
you've got others that will say it's the Freemasons. The
Free Masons are behind everything, you know, And so you
get these different people and everyone's convinced that one of
(41:17):
those three groups is behind everything. And I think it's
lucifer and Luciferianism that's behind all of it, which one
of those Yeah, yes.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
While we've got the three ring circus going on, it's them,
it's them, No, it's them, Like we're all this confused
echo chamber deliberately because most people that just blows their
mind and they're like, Okay, I don't want to know.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
It and see no evil here, no evil speak, no evil.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I'm just gonna zone out on my device, and you
know that'll be my world.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
That's what they want. People so mesmerized and confused bread
and circus Like, yeah, it's probably a combination of all
the above, like you say, And ultimately, who are they?
And that makes biblical sense, right, Jesus said the whole world,
not part of the world, the.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Whole world that's under the power of the evil one,
And so yeah, until Jesus returns or we get swept
up into the Kingdom of Heaven and pass into Heaven ourselves,
that's the world we live in. Spiritual warfare is a
normal thing, and the more spiritual minded you are, the
more you're going to.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
Be a target of it. That's our world, like it
or not.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
So yeah, I mean, now my thoughts go along those
lines back to seventeen seventy six Adam Weiss help founder
of the Illuminati, and basically he was supposedly a disgruntled Jesuit,
but really was he or was it a part of
the Jesuits. And then that you know that the goal
(42:49):
was six steps towards basically what we're having now. Get
rid of private property, get rid of religion, the whole works,
and then the the Aluminists move to take over freemasonry
and control freemasonry. And then so you have the Jesuits
and the Freemasons and all that all under this Illuminati
(43:12):
kind of banner to try and unite them all. And
of course we've now had more than two hundred odd
years since then for the underworkings of it, I believe,
to get us into this whole unity. And then of
course there's the Islamic world as well. That's another big
part of this. And of course you, like you mentioned,
you can be an Islamic believer and be part of
(43:36):
Freemasonry as well, and they have their own branches of
Freemasonry too. So it is one big can of worms.
But one thing we do know is at the top
of it we have one entity I believe, Satan or Lucifer,
and then he has all his demonic armies and they
have the strategy to get everyone towards the overthrowing of
(44:03):
Christianity and Jesus and a war against Christ Jesus. And
that's basically where this is at. And there are just
so many different strategies to confuse everyone and get everyone
thinking this is it, this has to be it, you know,
and dividing, and no one really ever comes to the
knowledge of what the real truth is. And ultimately the
real truth is we just need Jesus Christ, all of us.
(44:25):
We are sinners. We're lost. We can't make this work
in our own strength. We basically need saving because we're
lost sinners. And that's the bottom line, really.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
And so right you are. I notice you went back
to seventeen seventy six as well.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Beyond that, evil plays the really long game. We all
live are what eighty years or so typically, But Evil's
been at this since the beginning and has been scheming.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
You know.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
My personal view is, in some ways the United States
was sort of a creation of the Lucifery and all
and how in global history the United States was kind
of protected from war on the home front, and that
kind of thing, and if anything, it allowed the United
States to be like the military industrial complex, to build, build,
(45:14):
build military, and then once it built into this army
of you know, world might, well now we'll go ahead
and use it and stir up all the wars and
do everything else we have going on. So in some ways,
I think of this nation as as sort of an
incubator and an innovation hub, so that we built a
lot of this stuff we didn't do at all. We
(45:35):
needed China and other people to like copy these things
and mimic them and all that. But the United States
has been a big player on the world and we
still are and Trump like loves to brag about it.
We're the biggest contributor in NATO and UN and blah
blah blah, and you know, there is truth to that.
But I think it was sculpted that way. This was
all planned that way. You know, the Statue of Liberty,
(45:55):
who built that, Freemasons plants, who's decided to up as
a gateway to our country. I mean, this is a
really long game that's being played, and almost like a
logarithmic graph that goes up, you know, like that, That's
what it feels like. We're in those end times where
the stuff that was happening at a low level for
so long is just going off.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
The tyrants. We're heading to something.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
The Washington Monument another, that's another one. The Obelisk. You've
got all the things on the US dollar, a free Masonic,
the pyramid with the capstone and the eye, and it's
all in there. And people say America was founded as
a Christian country. No, it wasn't. There were some Christians
(46:40):
that came to America in early days, for sure, but
that wasn't very long at all. And you had the
Freemasons there, and you had them as presidents early on.
And I think it was Andre mentioned the Treaty of Tripoli.
I think it was called when you go back and
you look at that, and that's early on the US
is not Christian nation and that was to a pay
(47:02):
some Muslims.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
Wasn't that a brilliant bit of research he did to
find that I had never heard of that. There it
is in writing like in the fine print at the Yeah,
that was a pretty good find that Andre did.
Speaker 5 (47:14):
And you'll know, like you obviously don't watch a lot
of American news.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
I try and avoid it too, but in the background
of almost every newscast is that obelisk. You see the
Washington Monument, and you know, in theory, it's like, oh,
that's just to show you their correspondences in Washington.
Speaker 5 (47:29):
That can be anywhere.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
They can be sitting in a desk in anywhere, and
so they're always showing that. It's always in the background,
and so are like the One World Trade Center. You know,
the Luciferian inverted pyramids smashed together to form the new
One World Trade Center. So whenever there's a film or
something shot in New York, you'll usually see that as
like an imposing figure in the background, almost like standing
(47:51):
in the background watching you. Same with the newscasters, no
matter what they got, there's that obelisk that just remind you, like,
that's what you don't think, this is what we're telling you.
It is that obelisk is telling you something, just like
the capital and the layout and really even the how
it mirrors the layout of the Vatican, and they're obelisks
(48:12):
and there they're domes. You know, you got the male
and the female and the blah blah blah. So yeah,
it's they do like masons are all about bricks and mortar, right.
They do like to build their monuments and something that's lasting.
So it's hiding in plain sight this great edifice that's
some great architect built, you know, but it's it's more
(48:33):
than just architecture. It's it's sending a signal.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Yeah, So I guess the look to close up, I
suppose the points we really want to get across those
people need to just wake up to not be buying
into the whole lie that the media is telling you,
all that the politicians are telling you, and you've got
to jump on board with this whole thing, but to
wake up and realize we are truly heading towards the
(48:57):
end times that Jesus spoke of that will culminate in
his return. Exactly when that'll be, we don't know, but
I think it's getting closer and closer, and it may
not be that far away, but a lot's going to
happen in the next while. We need to really keep
our eyes and our focus on the Lord and not
on people in politics, politicians and not believing all the
(49:23):
ecommunical lies and all that either. So well, Eric, thank
you for being on the show. I think we've covered
a lot of ground and It's been a really important discussion.
Speaker 5 (49:34):
I hope I enjoyed it. And to end on a
positive note.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
You know, it says that in scripture that we should
encourage one another and that when.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
We see these things even begin.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
To happen, we're supposed to look up and realize our
redemption is drawing near. So you know, inspite of all
the gloom and doom, and that it's not all gloom
and doom. This is how the Lord laid it out,
and there's a good ending. We're on the right side
of his story history.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
Absolutely well, awesome, Thank.
Speaker 5 (50:05):
You, thanks so much. Enjoying it as always.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
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