November 26, 2025 • 58 mins
ORIGINAL AIR DATE: NOV 5, 2013
Natalina from Extrodinary Intelligence joins L.A. Marzulli in this early episode of Acceleration Radio, to talk about these End Times! (circa 2013)
Natalina would go on to become a recurring guest of Marzulli's, as well as a guest on a host of other FRN podcasts.
Natalina from Extrodinary Intelligence joins L.A. Marzulli in this early episode of Acceleration Radio, to talk about these End Times! (circa 2013)
Natalina would go on to become a recurring guest of Marzulli's, as well as a guest on a host of other FRN podcasts.
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Is there a war coming in the Middle Ages, starting
headed towards a one world government of one rote religious system?
Will America be attacked again? The ancient for petic texts
warn of the time you are living in Harvey him
the last day is the time of Jacob's trouble, the
end of the world as we know it? And what
are the increase of UFO sightings? Well, you may disagree
as to what is causing the phenomena. We can't agree
that it is real versioning and not going away? Is
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this the coming great deception that ancient prophecy warns us about?
Does time seemed to be accelerating. Join me. You're in treport.
Host l A mars Julie has we explore these and
other riveting and stimulating topics. This is Acceleration Radio and
getting the ladies and gentlemen. I am here in trepid.
Host l A mar Julie, Welcome to another funfilled packed
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information episode of Acceleration Radio. Our guest tonight is Natalina
from Extraordinary Intelligence, and we'll be bringing here Ron Roll
about ten or fifteen minutes after the rant gets done.
Announcement Tomorrow Friday, November First, we will be doing pre
sales on the new Watchers seven Physical Evidence. We discuss
UFOs in the screenings that we've done out here in
Los Angeles. I've had several people come up to me
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and tell me. One of them with Steven Bassett, who said, basically,
this is the best UFO documentary he's ever seen on
the subject. Gives you an idea. It is about an
hour and twenty minutes long. We have we have interviewed
on actually interviewed four Watchers seven, a variety of people
from all different paradigms. What we're trying to do, folks,
Unlike some shows, I won't mention any names. Excuse me,
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sorry about that, And my wife's in the background twortling
at that little inappropriate behavior on the host part. But anyway,
I refuse to name any names on the show here.
But unlike that other particular show, we talked to people
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on both sides of the aisle. We've got people like
Chuck Missler, Chris Putman, and the author of He Savana Kanna,
Jim Williamson. Of course, I weigh in on the end,
but do so in a very non well, you'll have
to see the end. I'm going to tell you how.
I way in Gary Steerman, who I think gives us
one of the most articulate views of the subject. I mean,
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he was so on point that day. It was just incredible,
startling interview David Stinnett, who also embraces the extra interdimensional
demonic viewpoint like all the other people that I've named
hold to. And then of course we get other folks
like Jimi Mussan, who's got a two hour show in
Mexico every week which discusses the UFO phenomous, the longest
running show seen by millions of people in Mexico every
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single week. We were there in Mexico City, interviewed, Jimi,
interviewed his staff, got tons and tons of actual real
UFO footage that we show in Watchers. We also go
into the lab emslow that here Kenny, Kidny, Kenny. We
also go to the lab with doctor Roger Lear and
Stephen Colberg where we show again the plans. We also
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have a four fingered handprint which fluoresces on a drywall
that was taken from someone who was abducted and has
been abducted numerous times. We took the drywall from their
house examining them lab. That just gives you a taste.
By the way, Felks, there's a book that goes with it.
It's called Further Evidence, and it used to be called
the Alien Interviews. I have gone over and took a
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lot of the stuff out of the Alien Interviews. There's
also updated interviews with doctor David Jacobs, George Fyler, to
name just a few. And then Chuck Messer comes in,
Garis Sherman comes in. All these which were not part
of the actual Watcher seven are now in Further Evidence.
You can get them both for ten dollars off. I
think it's thirty five dollars and that will be up
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on the blog tomorrow all through the weekend. So we
are doing a preseller. You can save ten bucks. I
saw it again at the screening Watcher seven and I
was just blown away. So you know, it's got all
tons of information. But I want to move on here, folks,
because Obama mess is exactly what it is. It's a mess.
It's an ongoing mess. It's not working. This has been
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ramrotted down the throat to the American people. Most of
us do not want it. And on the heels of this,
of course, they're going to make approximately twenty million illegals legal.
This will change the entire fabric of America as we
know it. Many of these people have no idea what
the Constitution is, our freedom of speech, They have no idea.
They come from countries which don't have the same type
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of government as we do. The idea and remember this,
I think I can summon all up. Obama gave me
a self owe and that's that's it. It's And I'm
not saying all these immigrants that are going to become
automatically legal are part of the entitlement society. I'm not
saying that, but many of them are many of them.
You know, we're looking for we deserve this, we want
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the government handout. We want you know, free this and
free that, not realizing that all of this comes with
the cost. We want free healthcare. Nothing is free in
this world. World and the pioneer spirit which found in America,
the idea of being self reliant is fast going out
the window. We're looking at some serious, very hard days
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ahead of us folks. In my humble opinion, but I
want to read a blog that I wrote on October thirtieth.
I was cruising the shows on I think it was
Sunday or Monday. I think it was Sunday night. Let
me get a slurp here, and a new Ancient Aliens
was on and it was the title of this was
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new interpretation of ancient texts suggests that Satan may have
been an extra terrescual who is more of an ally
to humanity than an enemy. So based on that, and
I saw the whole thing. There's a link on my
blog side Lamarzoli dot WordPress dot com which you can
go to link for yourself. It's forty five minutes without
the commercials. You need to watch this video if you
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do nothing else, you know, turn off American idol and
why this video You need to see what these guys
are promulgating, because in my opinion, it is just so
over the top. So the title of the blog is
Ancient Aliens Satan is Misunderstood. So this is from a
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direct quote from let me he ain't got this a
little bit? There we go. Good, I'm gonna check my volume. Okay, good.
This is a direct quote from the show. The narrator
is talking who or what is Satan? Is he a demon,
the devil, the pertonification of evil? Or was he in
fact a benevolent extraterrestrial being well who stole technology from
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alien beings in an effort to lead early man out
of darkness and ignorance. It gets better. Perhaps he is
testing us, using alien technology to alien technology to modify
human behavior in ways we have yet to understand. Whoa
is That a loaded sentence. Perhaps Satan is testing us
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using alien technology to modify human behavior. What about the
alien implants that I keep talking about over and over
and over again. That's going to modify human behavior in
a huge way when it changes to host DNA structure.
I mean, what are we doing here? Let me continue.
In a sense, Satan's not such a bad guy. You
can't have light without the dark. This is a direct
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quote from David Childrens towards the end of the of
the presentation. In a sense, Dave is not such a
bad guy. You can't have light without the dark. You
can't have right without wrong. And we have to learn
these things for ourselves, and ultimately, through choice wrong and right,
we grow, and we become who we are, and ultimately
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to be like our makers, to be gods ourselves. That's
a direct quote from David Childrens. Here's the blog. I
watched the latest episode of Engine Aliens over the weekend.
The production was great, the narrative riveting. However, in my opinion,
Prometheus Entertainment, the guys who produce the show have an agenda.
It was in full display in this episode. The show
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begins by discussing the two hundred Watcher angels discussed in
the Book of Enoch. Excuse me, but it never tells
the viewer what the intent of these beings were. The
show's steers clear of discussing the hybrid being brought about
by the union of fallen angels and the women of Earth.
The nepheline. In essence, the fallen angels are trying to
corrupt the human genome and thus thwart the Messianic lime
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and the promise of one who would crush the serpents
of Satan's head without understanding its basic concept. The concept
later in the show when they discuss the Book of Revelations,
let me start that line again. Without understanding this basic concept.
Later in the show, when they discuss the Book of
Revelation and the cosmic war that ensues, they arrive at
the conclusion that Satan is misunderstood. See my book The
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Cosmic Chess Match for an in depth discussion of this.
They get it right when they point out that the
Book of Revelation is the end of a cosmic war,
but they found to understand that it is not with
ancient astronauts. Let me get another slurper, folks, hold on,
oh boy, but they thought, I don't understand that it
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was not with ancient astronauts from other galaxies. It is
between the rebel angels and the hosts of Heaven. They
are shoehorning their beloved ancient astronaut theory into the text,
and in my opinion, it doesn't fit David Childress are
regular on the show, goes one step further by repeating
and seemingly embracing the lie that was told to Eve
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way back in the garden, which started all the trouble
in the first place, which we find in Genesis three,
verse five. For God to know that in that day,
what day, the day that you therefore eat of the apple,
not the fruit, Not the apple the fruit. Then your
eyes shall be open, and ye shall be as gods,
knowing good or evil. So there's the lie that we hear,
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excuse me, thousands of thousands of years ago, and guess
what got guys like David Childreff's promulgating this same line.
Let me continue. This episode attempts to tell us that
Satan is some of misunderstood. Yet in the Guidebook of
the Supernatural i e. The Bible, we read that Satan
comes to rob, kill, and destroy. So who do we
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believe the History Channel's version or what the tech actually states.
Let me read that again, So who are we to
believe the History Channel's versions version or what the text
actually states. We are told that Satan is the adversary,
the destroyer of our souls, the Little Horn, the Antichrist,
the dragon, the wilful king. He goes about like a
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roaring lion, looking for someone to devour. In closing today's posts,
we have a history of men and women dating back
thousands of years who knew and understood who Satan was.
They wrote about this fallen cherub or as I prefer
to call him, the fallen one. They know who he
is and warn us of his diabolical plans to destroy mankind.
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Jesus describes the the follow on the best and I'll
close this, And I'm not applying this to the history channel. However,
they should understand what it is they are promulgating. Then again,
perhaps they do. This is a quote from Jesus. You
belong to your father, the devil, and you want to
carry out your father's desires. Speaking of the Pharisees here,
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he was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to
the truth, for there is no truth in him. When
he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is
a liar and the father of lies. That's from John eight,
verse forty four. So yes, you guys, check that out
if you don't know it. So who do we believe?
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Yashua Jesus who writes this two thousand years ago, or
the History Channel, And folks, I don't think there's any
challenge here. I think we all know who's right and
who's wrong, with all due respect to the History Channel.
All right, folks, we'll be back after station identification. You're
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You're listening to Acceleration Radio Live tonight. Weird night. I
can't stand this night. I'm speaking in course of Halloween
and just dreadful. So my guest and I is fantastic
because we're gonna talk about all things and a lot
of different things. We'll see where it goes. But let
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me just give you a little bit background on Natalina.
She is the host of Extraordinary Intelligence. I have been
on her own radio show. She's a wonderful host to
be interviewed in tonight. That table's a turn, But Extraordinary
Intelligence was born in March of two thousand and nine.
At that time, I was deeply intrigued by all things
mysterious and unexplained. To further, I dell th into esoteric
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topics of an occult nature. The deeper I became embedded
in a new Age philosophy. While perusing my archives, we'll
probably find all kinds of strange struff. During a particularly
difficult time in my life, I had an amazing experience.
I was delivered from a very dark place and brought
into the light of Jesus in a very personal way.
I wasn't looking for him, inspitted by thumbing my nose
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at him for years, he found me. I've never been
the same due to this experience. I quickly changed my
focus here on extraordinary intelligence. While I still love to
write about high stranges and quirky curiosities, I also explored
a supernatural and conspiratorial realm more fully than I ever
did before. Now this approach is from a biblical worldview.
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I'm blessed to have thousands of regular readers who didn't
abandon me after my transformation. My hope is that whether
you agree with my world view or not, you at
least consider things from a new perspective. This world that
we live in is a big, beautiful, weird and wonderful place.
Let's explore the whole darn thing together. Nantalena, Welcome to
Acceleration Radio.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
Thank you, Elie. Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
It's it's it's our honor to have you here. We've
only got you know, time is dwindling down, so I
just kind of want to jump right in. You know,
tonight is Halloween and you go to different sites and
some of the new agers are trying to tell us that, wow,
it's really not such a bad deal, just like the
I don't know whether you heard my little ramp before,
but by I read a blog on the whole ancient
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alien thing with oh, the Saint's really not such a
bad guy, and yet what we see I want you
to address this. We seem to see the rise of
a demonic not only in our culture but on a
global level. Please speak to that.
Speaker 8 (19:52):
I absolutely agree with you, and I was listening to
your opening a blog that you read and it really
rang true to me because it's the overarching point that
I try to make on my site that the very
first lie was ye shall be as gods, and it
actually will, in my view, be the last lie, And
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everything that stretches through the New Age and the Occult
goes back to that. From my own experience being involved
in the occult in the New Age, I know it
was all about achieving your own godhood and exploring the
divinity within, and I think a lot of people miss
that point when they dabble in the occult and the supernatural.
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I actually just happened upon an article I wrote a
number of years ago where I was talking about how
much I loved to be afraid and I loved this
time of year. And the article is called Fear of
the Supernatural, the Thrill of it All, and I was
actually kind of amazed that I had written that. One
of the things that I say is that there's a
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delicious adrenaline rush that comes with a good scare, and
I love it. I fear and revel in the darkness.
Those words seem like they were written by someone else
for who I am now, But there is this sort
of excitement that comes from going into those dark and
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unknown places, and I know it all too well, but
when I wrote, though all those years ago, that I
seek out the strange and scary darkness that comes from
places unknown, what I didn't realize is that my own
mindset was reflecting that I was in a terribly dark place,
and I was going deeper and deeper into that. And
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that is the danger. Even when you just consider, you know, oh,
you're just doing it for fun. Oh it's just for
a little thrill, it's no big deal. It is a
big deal because when you spend time in those dark places,
you become that way. You become a dark person who
is drawn to dark things. And we all know where
that leads. It led me there.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Wow, Wow, that's quite a testimony. You know, during this
this this season of Halloween, it gets to the point where,
you know, when I grew up, I mean, we all
dressed up blah blah blah. We're more interested in mischief
night and soaping windows and throwing toilet paper over trees
and that kind of stuff. And that's what unfortunately, as
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a you know, as a twelve and thirteen year old,
I definitely engaged in that, as did every other twelve
and thirteen year old guy that I knew. But what
we see now is these haunted houses which didn't exist,
you know, fifty years ago. And that's I was twelve
years old fifty years ago, So fifty years ago, there
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weren't a hunted houses, not like you see on in
neighborhoods and these and and certain guys will go in
and rent these like big box you know, warehouses type
stuff and create a haunter house and charge a bunch
of people to go through it and all this stuff.
I mean that go back fifty years ago and maybe
a couple, but now it's like Halloween has become almost
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as big as Christmas, almost as big as Chris Yep,
I'm sorry, can you hear me out somehow? I click microphone? Okay, yeah,
like hear So basically for the whole Halloween deal, it
came back as a springboard into Luigi board, into witchcraft
and to wiccup, why should we avoid those things in
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your opinion.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
Well, it's interesting that you mentioned that because a number
of the other sort of mainstream shows that deal with
the supernatural radio shows, I find that the past couple
of days they've been talking about the Luigi board. They've
been talking about how it's a tool, it's an instrument,
and it can be used for good or it can
be used for evil. But what we know as people
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who believe in what the Word of God says, what
the Bible says, is that we are not to seek
this out. We are not to communicate with the dead.
We are not to communicate with the other side. And
that's the sole purpose of an item like the Ouiji board,
and also that's the sole purpose of doing things like
ghost hunts. You're seeking it out, you're looking for that communication.
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We are expressly told not to do that. And when
you do, you open yourself up to these forces that
you know obviously they're all dark, they're all they will
consume you. And it's not you know in the movies
when they show these these big grand possessions where the
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eyeballs are rolling back in the head and all of
this stuff. You know that that can happen. But it's
not always that obvious. It can be very insidious when
you're being oppressed. And for me, I believe that it
manifested in anxiety and panic attacks. And the more I
opened myself up to reaching out to the other side
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through the occult and the New Age, the worse these
panic attacks got and the more I just suffered from anxiety,
to the point where sometimes I thought I was going
to die. I would have heart palpitations that felt like
heart attacks, and I didn't recognize it as demonic. I
didn't recognize it as that I was being oppressed. I
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kept going further and further into these New Age things,
thinking that I could just tap into something to heal myself.
I was so lost. And that is the insidious part
of it is that it isn't always something so incredibly dramatic.
It's a creeping thing that happens to you that you
don't even realize until you're so deep into it that
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it's really difficult to pull yourself out of it. It
starts as something that's a parlor trick or a game,
or something that you just do for fun, or you
just read a book that that Oprah recommended, you know,
and the next thing you know, you're so deep into
it you don't you don't understand what's happening to you.
It took it took for me the Lord literally ripping
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me out of that situation to be able to reflect
back on it and see what had happened to me.
It's dangerous. It's not to be messed with, even on
a cursory level, unless you are so solidly grounded in
your faith in Jesus Christ and you are going into
it to expose it and not to glorify or revel
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in it. That's the difference.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
And of course, even then, if we engage in that,
or if it's a ministry that we're where, you know,
the the Lord puts us in, he's got to put
us in. I mean I tell people all the time.
In fact, there's one one person that wanted to help
us out, and you know it's like immediately their life
just went just went haywire. I mean, just hay why her?
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And I don't think that's a coincidence. I mean other
people might think it's a coincidence. And the thing is,
look what what you and I do and I do
this twenty four to seven. It is constantly exposing the
works of the following one and he doesn't like it.
And so you know, we're on the front lines and
we get attacked. And I know you do too, but
you know, you get people that don't want to dabble
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on this stuff and they have no idea what I
mean by this. Stuff. You know, they get a wiki
board and they go to a psychic or they'll you know,
get get a bunch of people together and a three
legged table and just see what we can conjure up,
or if we can conjure anything up. And all of
a sudden, all these things are doorways. I have one
woman that called me Natalina, spoken to her several times,
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and you know, she allowed something to come in, and
now she can't get rid of it. And when we
when I was work with her and pray with her,
just as it was coming out, she held on. She
didn't want to leave. And there's nothing you can do
because it's she's given an illegal right to stay there.
But let's move on. Look, we have this guide book
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of the supernatural, i e. The Bible, and in that,
and you've heard me talk about this, but in that
we hear stories about virgin burse, floating accents, talking donkeys,
two gold coins that appear in a fish smell, Staffs
which turn into snakes, men that walk on water, Men
that are swallowed by fish, giant fish, and then regurgitated
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three days later on dry land. Big huge bodies of
water which which just stand up like I col heap
and allow people to pass through it, and on and
on it goes water that's turned into wine, men that
rise that are raised from the dead, men who were
healed from being blind from birth. These are all supernatural phenomena.
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I mean, they just are, and they defy the laws
of physics. Why is it that our churches we all
agree as Christians, this is what we believe in everything
I saw it was from the Guy Book of the Supernatural.
I eat the Bible. We talk about this stuff. In fact,
we're getting ready for Christmas soon, which is another three
hour conversation which I will touch right now. But the
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bottom line is this. We celebrated as the Lord's birthday.
That's what we do. We's come together and we celebrated
as Christians as the Lord's Birthday. And we because Messiah
was born on that day, and we talk about the
virgin of birth. That is a supernatural act. There's no
doubt about it. That being said, that being stated and
laid down on the groundwork, please spring off that springboard.
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If I can mix my metaphors here and tell us
why is it that the churches are afraid to discuss
the very things that are in the Guybook of the supernatural.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
You know, I can't even really explain why because it
is just mind boggling to me. I'm gonna share a
couple of statistics here. According to a few different polls
I pulled this information out, seventy three percent of Americans
believe in some form of supernatural phenomenon. Eighty million Americans
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believe in UFOs, one in ten claim that they've actually
seen one, seventy four percent of eighteen to twenty four
year olds believe it was likely that UFOs and aliens exist,
and over half of Americans believe in demonic possession. Now,
contrast that with a twenty thirteen just from a few
(30:24):
months ago Gallup poll that showed that seventy seven percent
of people believe that religion is losing its influence on
American life and that Christianity has actually dropped by eleven
percentage points over the past twenty years in the United States,
and forty six percent this is this is a nationwide poll.
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Forty six percent of people never think about whether or
not they are going to heaven or health.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Now, but.
Speaker 8 (30:56):
We just see, we just saw that this giant the
vast majority of Americans, And I would submit that people
worldwide believe in the supernatural in some form. So the
thing that boggles my mind is the church. The modern
church is so adamant about wanting to be relevant. They
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want to be hip, they want to attract generation. Why
they want the young people to come into the church,
so they try to seduce them with, you know, cool
preachers and fancy light shows and all of this stuff.
But it occurs to me that if they were to
address the issue of the supernatural, that is what would
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make them relevant. Giving all of the evidence that these
polls suggest, people are searching for answers to the things
that they already believe in. They already believe in the supernatural,
so of course there's a reason why church attendance is
dropping because if they already believe in the supernatural and
the church doesn't want to address it, they're going to
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go somewhere else for answers, just as I did. And
it would seem that the hard part is already done.
You think that the difficult thing is convincing people to
believe that there is this supernatural realm. That seems like
the big leap of faith, But the evidence shows people
already believe that, they already get that, so you don't
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have to convince them of that, you just have to
convince them of the context in which that fits, which
is the biblical worldview. Why churches don't address it, I
do not know. But I've gone to a number of
churches since I became a Christian, and it's severely lacking.
I cannot find it. And really it's really really disturbing
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because someone needs to be addressing these things that everyone
already believes exists, you know, as Christians. I mean, you
pointed out this is something that we are uniquely able
to speak to, and we're not.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Yeah, look, I agree with you. I mean, when I'm
lecturing at churches or conferences or whatever, I say, we're
the people. We've got the answers. It's not the answers
of men. I mean, it's the answers that came from
the hand of God. We believe that the Bible is
divinely inspired, and it is, and every word that's in
there rings true, and we've got the answers, and yet
we're not using it, which reminds me of a prophecy, having
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a form of religion but denying its power. And I
think we're at a time where Jesus warns us that
that's what the church will be like. I mean, you're right.
Why is it that the church refuses, and I mean
refuses to discuss this stuff and pretend it doesn't even exist?
I mean, look the last church I pastored it, and
that's getting on like over six years ago. Now, you know,
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I was basically let go because I'm a frank supernaturalist
and I do move into gifts and I was talking
about UFOs and the upset some people and they didn't
want to hear about it. Well watch your seven shameless
plug here. But I can't wait till you see it, Natalie.
I mean, this stuff is is, it's real. It's version
and not going away, you know, the whole phenomena, And
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that's just a part of it. I mean, you know,
we talked about black Eyed kids, but we've talked about
the zombie imagery not necessarily and watches. But I know
you and I have discussed it. We'll discuss it again,
maybe maybe even like right now here, here's the deal.
Why is it that the CDC is talking about zombies?
Why is it that that all of a sudden, zombies
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like World War Z? I mean, what do they know
that we don't know does this have something to do
with the mark of the Beast where it says man
and women will die in those days and not or
seek death and not find me. Let me be phrase
that many and women will seek death in those days?
What days? The mark? The day is with the mark
of the beast is working and not be able to
find it. And we also know that when you take
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the mark, these weird, grievous sores appear in the body.
So what are we looking at? Zombies righting around here?
I mean, I mean, why why make stuff like this?
Why the absolute fascination with zombies? What do you think
is going on with that?
Speaker 8 (35:00):
It's interesting that you mentioned that, because I was just
pondering this the other day. My most recent post on
my site is a selection of photographs that I took
as I was driving around in a residential area in
my town and I passed by a home that, like
you were speaking of earlier, this big elaborate Halloween display,
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and the whole front yard was nothing but zombies and corpses.
And there's like a zombie bride and a zombie and
a wheelchair and just this glorification of death. And I
think that has a lot to do with it. It's
just the the reveling in that dark imagery. And there
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was when you mentioned that about the CDC, I was
just thinking about how it was maybe just this time
last year when we were talking about all of these
zombie attacks and the quote unquote bath Salts zombies that
were all of a sudden, just all over the news,
and you can't help but feel And of course it's
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another thing that makes you think, you know, people hearing you,
thinking that you're sounding crazy, but you can't help but
feel that with all of this information being shoved on
our throat, whether it's the Walking Dead or you know,
World War Ze, that this is a bit of predictive
programming that's happening. We are slowly being introduced to the
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acceptance of this imagery and it is becoming something that
is get seeping into our psyche so that we are
familiar with the concept of that this zombie thing is
a real thing and it could really happen. And the
people that are really into the zombie culture, which believe
it or not, there is such a thing as the
zombie culture. People are going online and playing these games
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where they act as though they truly are part of
a zombie apocalypse, and there's giant lists of rules about
how to survive a zombie apocalypse and how to kill
a zombie, and they get so wrapped up in it
that they just believe it is so. And the CDC
has been hosting these things at grade schools which are
(37:16):
zombie apocalypse drills, and it's supposed to Yeah, I know
it's so weird, and there's been articles about it, but
it's supposed to be getting kids used to the idea
of getting vaccinated, which is another red flag. But to
make it fun, they make the kids dress up like
their zombies, and then the CDC people are coming in
(37:36):
in like biohazard suits that pretending like they're vaccinating kids
against the zombie virus. I mean, think about when you're
a child and how impressionable you are, you know, and
that's now part of your thought process. So if something
were to really happen, I'm not saying zombies in the
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way that Hollywood portrays it, but if something were to happen,
like a viral outbreak or something that came about through
a vaccine, we would already have that expectation that it
could happen because it pop culture has put it so
deep into our our brains.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
And that's that's really well said. I mean it bothers me. Well,
let me put it this way. I'm sort of dumbfounded
at your statement that, uh, you know, they're doing drills
in schools. I mean, what what do they know that
we don't know? I mean, who knows what they're doing
in these underground labs. I think of like prom Ilon,
where some people say lime disease actually came from plumb Island.
(38:39):
I think just even charged at a wonderful show on that,
because this is that that's Nazi had a lab on
plumb Ilon and guess what they were doing. They were
messing around with ticks that would carry some sort of
pathogen on them and boom, you know lime lime. Uh,
Connecticut is like right across the bay, and that's what
the first lime disease outbreak is. Just like put you know,
come on course, the government goes, oh, we have no
(39:01):
idea what's going on. Meanwhile, they've they've really I mean
we know that chemical weapons recently, okay they were and
we don't know by whom, And of course that almost
touched off World War three. We know that saren gas
was used in Japan. We know that that chemical weapons
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were used by chemical any Rock against the Kurs. We
know that this stuff happens. But what we what we
haven't seen in modernity is let's say, the spread of
a disease like smallpox something like that. And it makes
me wonder, as I know it makes you wonder, why
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is the CDC talking about the zombie apocalypse? And let
me just ask you something getting into a real life
zombie type situation. Of course, I'm talking about the Miami cannibal.
Why is it in your opinion that that you think
that Popo was a act by Rudy Eugene. Riddy Gene
(40:02):
was the guy that had to be shot numerous times
before he succumbed to his wounds as he was gnawing
the face of the transient known as Popo. And you know,
the medium made it big yell about black bath thoughts
on this, but whoa and the toxicology report came back.
Guess what, folks, No beast salts, just traces of marijuana.
(40:24):
What do you think we're looking at? With all that?
Speaker 8 (40:27):
I firmly believed from the moment I saw that that
that was a clear case of demonization, and you're right,
the Bath Salt's thing was completely ruled out. And what
a lot of people don't talk about is that around
that same time, a number of other incidents similar to
that had happened. There was a case in Indiana where
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a man went crazy in traffic and started jumping on
top of cars and threatening to eat people, and he
was There was another guy, I think, I want to say,
in Ohio who did something very similar. All it was
an outbreak and it really makes me think, and it
almost instantly made me think of what Russ Dizdar talks
(41:11):
about with the Black Awakening, that people are programmed and
they can be triggered at any moment. Could it be
something like that? Is it more of a purely supernatural
thing where people are being demonized? Is it something like that?
I can't say for sure, but I know it wasn't drugs,
and I know that it wasn't these excuses that the
(41:35):
mainstream media was giving, And it's just interesting that it
was so it was everywhere. It was just in your face.
Every mainstream media outlet was talking about it. But now
it's just gone. No one talks about it anymore. Nobody
talks about what really happened, and I also find it
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particularly interesting. I think one little piece of information that
came out was this man, what was his name, Rudy,
Rudy Eugene. Yeah, he was carrying a Bible when this happened,
and there were Bible pages spread everywhere. I mean, that's
some pretty potent imagery, and it does send a message
(42:16):
that this is a spiritual, supernatural thing that is happening.
To make that kind of a connection. So what was
he targeted? Was he dabbling in the occult? I think
there was some evidence of that, perhaps that he was
into some sort of Haitian voodoo thing. Whatever it was,
the fact that it happened in multiple places during the
(42:38):
relatively same time, I believe a message was being sent,
something was being tried, something was being triggered. And I
think we'll probably see it again, probably even worse next time.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
Yeah, probably. And again you go back fifty years, and
I mean this stuff just didn't exist, not that I'm
aware of. I mean, there was some pretty weird stuff done,
but nothing like nothing like this stuff that we read
about with Rudy Eugene and some of these other guys
which the media is sort of run with and then
it just goes off the page sixty or it's not
(43:10):
you know, it's not talked about at all, sort of
like the cantimutilation phenomena, which is ongoing, and the media
just doesn't even address it anymore. For the most part,
law enforcement won't track it because they know they can
never find the perpetrators because the perpetrators are interdimensional beings,
and how do you trap it an interdimensional being? How
do you pull one over? As it were? But I
(43:32):
digress with your show. I mean you interview a lot
of different people, and you come from, as I do,
of a new Age. I was immersed in it. You
were immersed in it. I was just at the Paradigm
Symposium and I was the only Christian there that I'm
aware of amidst all these other hardline New Age guys
(43:57):
and gals. And in your opinion, what's the best way
have you found a way to maybe reach them or
try to reach them, because it's very difficult. They can
sort of look at Christianity and they think they know
the Jesus that we know. They think it's some kind
of a quirky religion that they look at TV and go, oh,
(44:19):
there's there's all those crazy Jesus guys on TV. And
they just turn the channel and laugh and walk out
of the room. But you and I and many many
millions and millions of others know that the Jesus that
we know that we've been introduced to is not anything
like the nonsense that we see on the tube. That
being said, how would you address how would you share
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the Lord with these new age guys and gals?
Speaker 8 (44:46):
The first thing that I learned was to use my
own experience as a barometer, knowing what I felt, how
I how I saw Christians. It wasn't a very very
pleasant opinion that I had at that time, but knowing
where it came from, I find that the first thing
(45:08):
I have to do is be very clear that I
have empathy for the people that are still so deep
in it. You know, Christians, sometimes I hate to say it,
but we're our own worst enemy, and sometimes we think
that if we just go beat someone on the head
with the Bible, they were going to knock some sense
into them. And that doesn't work that in ninety percent
(45:29):
of the time. That certainly doesn't work. If I have
someone A lot of people email me, and they say,
you know, I'm into the new age, and I see
you've made a change, and I don't quite understand where
you're coming from, but I saw how you used to be,
So can you try to explain to me what's happening
with you? And I always just try to be compassionate
(45:51):
and understanding, because the fact is, I understand the seduction
of the occult. I understand. I don't say to people,
you are so stupid to believe in that, What in
the world are you thinking? No, I totally get why
they believe it, And so the first thing I try
to be empathy. I have to have empathy for them
(46:12):
and have compassion for them and make it clear to
them I am not coming from a place where I
am an indoctrinated Christian my whole life, not at all.
I've been right where they are, and I'm not judging
them for being there, but I have found a better way.
And I say to people, give me, give me a
(46:35):
few minutes to give you just a little bit of
a background on myself, where I was and where I
am now, And if that touches you in any way,
give me for a few more minutes, you know, And
I try to take it really slowly. And I said
this to somebody just the other day. I've had some
criticism that I continue to be sometimes a little lighthearted
(46:58):
on my site. I don't have every other thing that
I say in Christianese. And the criticism is that, you know,
everything should be one hundred percent warning people about the
dangers of you know, going to hell and this type
of thing. That's all true. It's all true, but you
(47:19):
have to understand that people who aren't already Christians aren't
necessarily receptive to that. You have to feel your audience out,
so to speak. My audience is I have a large
percentage of non believers who still frequent in my sight,
because they're interested in the subject matter that I talk about.
It means something to them, and so you have to
(47:41):
sort of form your message to their current mindset, and
believe me, it's successful. Christians need to understand you will
get so much further if you are compassionate to the
people that you're speaking to and you have a try
to relate to them instead of looking with looking down
(48:05):
upon them, because they're they're they're fellow human beings, and
they're fallible too, and they're they're they're on the wrong path.
You have to try to relate to them. And I
took a big page from your book, La, because you
reached through the radio to me when I was a
non believer, and you used terms that that made sense
(48:27):
to me. The Guidebook to the Supernatural and ancient prophetic
texts like that worked for me where I was at
that time. You know, it actually made me at least
consider that the Bible wasn't what I previously thought it was.
So what's the harm in trying to understand who your
(48:48):
audience is and speak to them on their level. They
respect that, and when once you have their respect, they're
going to give what you're saying about the Bible more consideration.
And that has been my my tactic the whole time.
I wasn't about to change the name of my website.
And you know I said this the other day, but
(49:10):
extraordinary Jesus Intelligence dot com people would have just left
in droves, you know, they would have thought I went
off the deep end. I had to show them that
I'm still the same person. It is my worldview that changed.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
Right, Your paradigm, your worldview change, And that's what happened
to me. Thirty three years ago. Let me let me
dive into a supernatural subject because it's it's near and
dear to my heart. I've been talking about it forever.
But the whole UFO phenomena, what's your take on disclosure?
You know, guys like Stephen Bessett, Stephen Greer, the whole
disclosure movement, the nick Popes of the world, and on
(49:47):
and on it goes. What's your take? I mean, do
you think we're going to see disclosure on twenty fourteen
or at the end of twenty thirteen? What do you think?
Is I am I asking for like a crystal ball?
I know you don't know that, but what you know
from your perch, what do you see happening? Well?
Speaker 8 (50:03):
I used to have a crystal ball la, you know,
being in this field even longer than I actually had
my website in existence. I've been hearing about disclosure for
a long time and I kind of think that we
are headed in that direction.
Speaker 4 (50:23):
Now.
Speaker 8 (50:23):
What it is precisely that they will disclose, I'm not
sure because, as we know, these aren't little green men
from Mars that we're talking about here, So what is
it that they really will allow us to know? It's
really interesting to research things like the Collins Elite to
find out that there's this government agency that looks into
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UFOs from a spiritual standpoint, and when you consider that
there are potentially factions within the government that already recognize
UFOs for what they are from a spiritual I don't
know if I would go so far as to say
that they are strictly Christian, but at least from a
supernatural point of view. It makes me wonder exactly how
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that disclosure would come about, because, as we know, the
people pulling the strings behind the scenes are not do
not have our best interests in mind. I believe it
will probably be presented as these are our space brothers.
They're here to help us. They're here to take us
to our next stage of evolution. They're going to help
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us with free energy, and they're going to evolve our
spiritual paradigm. And that's all going to lead into this
sort of one world religion that Prophecy tells us about
where we all unite under this banner of oneness. We
can unite for our own human humanity's evolution. And that's
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scary because that is exactly what happened in the Garden
of Eden. We shall be as gods. We are going
to evolve to this status of godhood. And I believe
that if disclosure happens, that's going to be the point
that it's they're going to help us evolve. That will
be the claim.
Speaker 4 (52:22):
And that's I stand with you on that one percent.
That's exactly one of the things that they'll say. You know,
before you came on, I read the blog about the
whole thing from the ancient Aliens, as we talked about,
and I know you heard that. It's it's just it's
amazing how this is all coming down. And I want
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to go back to the church and sort of close
it with this, but the church is just ignorant of it.
I mean, they were asleep at the wheel. The stuff's
coming down like a freight train on steroids, and the
church just will not deal with it. And yet, you know,
the new Agers, God love them, They're all over.
Speaker 8 (52:58):
This thing, like why don't I Yeah, it's it's true,
And their voices are getting louder and louder and louder.
I think sometimes people hear the term New Age and
they think that this is something from you know, the
Age of Aquarius from the sixties and seventies. Oh no,
it is huge. It is happening right now and it's
the same. There's nothing new about the New Age, as
(53:20):
they say, but it is becoming so prevalent and in
very insidious ways. Pick up the book The Secret. That's
the New Age. That's the law of attraction. You know,
your own divinity, tapping into yourself as creator? Who needs God?
If you can be a creator?
Speaker 4 (53:39):
Sure?
Speaker 8 (53:40):
And it it It is the direction we are going
in a big way because it is being presented now
in a way that isn't hippy dippy. It's like it's
the cool new thing. It's everybody, it's science, you know.
That's how it's being presented now. And that's why it's
so scary, because people are into the New Age and
they don't even know it.
Speaker 4 (54:02):
Let me ask you one last question. There's a lot
of stuff going around on a net which makes you
real paranoi when you read it about you know, runs
on the banks, collapse of a dollar fall, flag events
in the country. What have you heard? What can you
speak to any of that.
Speaker 8 (54:19):
The thing that's really on my mind right now is
the fact that we are headed towards some sort of chaos,
some sort of point where things are going to collapse.
You take the collapse of the dollar, you take the
government that what's happening Obamacare, my goodness. I mean we
could do ten shows on that. It is going to
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bankrupt our country. It is going to lead to panic
unlike I think we have seen. And I don't like
to be a doomsday but facts are facts. This is
you know, I have lived through nine to eleven, I
have lived through so many different things. I've never been
so troubled as I am in the wake of Obamacare.
This all, this is a big deal.
Speaker 4 (54:58):
So think we're down with the three minute mark. Give
us your closing thoughts. Thank you so much for coming
on the show. I consider you a fellow warrior, a
watch woman and what we do, and I just thank
you for being on our side and coming on the
show and just continually you know you're right for our
magazine and your articles are always pithy and just full
(55:20):
of information. And I'll just thank you that you know
you came on and just thank you for who you are.
Speaker 6 (55:27):
Well.
Speaker 8 (55:28):
Thank you, La, you know you you have been very
instrumental in my walk. And I have to say it's
a little surreal when I first became a Christian, I
poured over episodes of Acceleration Radio, and who would have
ever thought that one day I would end up being
a guest on your show. It's it's surreal and it's weird,
and it's really cool. It's amazing how our Lord works.
(55:49):
And so I really just thank you for having me on.
And I hope that if anyone out there is listening
and they know people who are involved in the New
Age or the occult, don't don't try to reach them
with fear and intimidation. Reach them with love and compassionate
will go such a long way.
Speaker 4 (56:06):
Absolutely, And how do we get a hold of you?
On your website? Give us that please?
Speaker 8 (56:10):
You can go to Extraordinary Intelligence dot com. I blog weekly,
I do radio a podcast as often as I can.
All of the links to iTunes, everything is on the website.
There's a place where you can contact me on the website.
Everything you could possibly want to know about what it
is that I do is right there at Extraordinary Intelligence
(56:31):
dot com.
Speaker 4 (56:32):
And Alena, thanks so much for coming on this show.
Really appreciate it. Folks, you're listening to Acceleration Radio. Our
guest tonight, Natalina from Extraordinary Intelligence. Check it, check our
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from Extraordinary Intelligence, and we'll be bringing here Ron Roll
about ten or fifteen minutes after the rant gets done.
Announcement Tomorrow Friday, November First, we will be doing pre
sales on the new Watchers seven Physical Evidence. We discuss
UFOs in the screenings that we've done out here in
Los Angeles. I've had several people come up to me
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and tell me. One of them with Steven Bassett, who said, basically,
this is the best UFO documentary he's ever seen on
the subject. Gives you an idea. It is about an
hour and twenty minutes long. We have we have interviewed
on actually interviewed four Watchers seven, a variety of people
from all different paradigms. What we're trying to do, folks,
Unlike some shows, I won't mention any names. Excuse me,
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sorry about that, And my wife's in the background twortling
at that little inappropriate behavior on the host part. But anyway,
I refuse to name any names on the show here.
But unlike that other particular show, we talked to people
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on both sides of the aisle. We've got people like
Chuck Missler, Chris Putman, and the author of He Savana Kanna,
Jim Williamson. Of course, I weigh in on the end,
but do so in a very non well, you'll have
to see the end. I'm going to tell you how.
I way in Gary Steerman, who I think gives us
one of the most articulate views of the subject. I mean,
(03:17):
he was so on point that day. It was just incredible,
startling interview David Stinnett, who also embraces the extra interdimensional
demonic viewpoint like all the other people that I've named
hold to. And then of course we get other folks
like Jimi Mussan, who's got a two hour show in
Mexico every week which discusses the UFO phenomous, the longest
running show seen by millions of people in Mexico every
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single week. We were there in Mexico City, interviewed, Jimi,
interviewed his staff, got tons and tons of actual real
UFO footage that we show in Watchers. We also go
into the lab emslow that here Kenny, Kidny, Kenny. We
also go to the lab with doctor Roger Lear and
Stephen Colberg where we show again the plans. We also
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have a four fingered handprint which fluoresces on a drywall
that was taken from someone who was abducted and has
been abducted numerous times. We took the drywall from their
house examining them lab. That just gives you a taste.
By the way, Felks, there's a book that goes with it.
It's called Further Evidence, and it used to be called
the Alien Interviews. I have gone over and took a
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lot of the stuff out of the Alien Interviews. There's
also updated interviews with doctor David Jacobs, George Fyler, to
name just a few. And then Chuck Messer comes in,
Garis Sherman comes in. All these which were not part
of the actual Watcher seven are now in Further Evidence.
You can get them both for ten dollars off. I
think it's thirty five dollars and that will be up
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on the blog tomorrow all through the weekend. So we
are doing a preseller. You can save ten bucks. I
saw it again at the screening Watcher seven and I
was just blown away. So you know, it's got all
tons of information. But I want to move on here, folks,
because Obama mess is exactly what it is. It's a mess.
It's an ongoing mess. It's not working. This has been
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ramrotted down the throat to the American people. Most of
us do not want it. And on the heels of this,
of course, they're going to make approximately twenty million illegals legal.
This will change the entire fabric of America as we
know it. Many of these people have no idea what
the Constitution is, our freedom of speech, They have no idea.
They come from countries which don't have the same type
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of government as we do. The idea and remember this,
I think I can summon all up. Obama gave me
a self owe and that's that's it. It's And I'm
not saying all these immigrants that are going to become
automatically legal are part of the entitlement society. I'm not
saying that, but many of them are many of them.
You know, we're looking for we deserve this, we want
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the government handout. We want you know, free this and
free that, not realizing that all of this comes with
the cost. We want free healthcare. Nothing is free in
this world. World and the pioneer spirit which found in America,
the idea of being self reliant is fast going out
the window. We're looking at some serious, very hard days
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ahead of us folks. In my humble opinion, but I
want to read a blog that I wrote on October thirtieth.
I was cruising the shows on I think it was
Sunday or Monday. I think it was Sunday night. Let
me get a slurp here, and a new Ancient Aliens
was on and it was the title of this was
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new interpretation of ancient texts suggests that Satan may have
been an extra terrescual who is more of an ally
to humanity than an enemy. So based on that, and
I saw the whole thing. There's a link on my
blog side Lamarzoli dot WordPress dot com which you can
go to link for yourself. It's forty five minutes without
the commercials. You need to watch this video if you
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do nothing else, you know, turn off American idol and
why this video You need to see what these guys
are promulgating, because in my opinion, it is just so
over the top. So the title of the blog is
Ancient Aliens Satan is Misunderstood. So this is from a
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direct quote from let me he ain't got this a
little bit? There we go. Good, I'm gonna check my volume. Okay, good.
This is a direct quote from the show. The narrator
is talking who or what is Satan? Is he a demon,
the devil, the pertonification of evil? Or was he in
fact a benevolent extraterrestrial being well who stole technology from
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alien beings in an effort to lead early man out
of darkness and ignorance. It gets better. Perhaps he is
testing us, using alien technology to alien technology to modify
human behavior in ways we have yet to understand. Whoa
is That a loaded sentence. Perhaps Satan is testing us
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using alien technology to modify human behavior. What about the
alien implants that I keep talking about over and over
and over again. That's going to modify human behavior in
a huge way when it changes to host DNA structure.
I mean, what are we doing here? Let me continue.
In a sense, Satan's not such a bad guy. You
can't have light without the dark. This is a direct
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quote from David Childrens towards the end of the of
the presentation. In a sense, Dave is not such a
bad guy. You can't have light without the dark. You
can't have right without wrong. And we have to learn
these things for ourselves, and ultimately, through choice wrong and right,
we grow, and we become who we are, and ultimately
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to be like our makers, to be gods ourselves. That's
a direct quote from David Childrens. Here's the blog. I
watched the latest episode of Engine Aliens over the weekend.
The production was great, the narrative riveting. However, in my opinion,
Prometheus Entertainment, the guys who produce the show have an agenda.
It was in full display in this episode. The show
(09:03):
begins by discussing the two hundred Watcher angels discussed in
the Book of Enoch. Excuse me, but it never tells
the viewer what the intent of these beings were. The
show's steers clear of discussing the hybrid being brought about
by the union of fallen angels and the women of Earth.
The nepheline. In essence, the fallen angels are trying to
corrupt the human genome and thus thwart the Messianic lime
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and the promise of one who would crush the serpents
of Satan's head without understanding its basic concept. The concept
later in the show when they discuss the Book of Revelations,
let me start that line again. Without understanding this basic concept.
Later in the show, when they discuss the Book of
Revelation and the cosmic war that ensues, they arrive at
the conclusion that Satan is misunderstood. See my book The
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Cosmic Chess Match for an in depth discussion of this.
They get it right when they point out that the
Book of Revelation is the end of a cosmic war,
but they found to understand that it is not with
ancient astronauts. Let me get another slurper, folks, hold on,
oh boy, but they thought, I don't understand that it
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was not with ancient astronauts from other galaxies. It is
between the rebel angels and the hosts of Heaven. They
are shoehorning their beloved ancient astronaut theory into the text,
and in my opinion, it doesn't fit David Childress are
regular on the show, goes one step further by repeating
and seemingly embracing the lie that was told to Eve
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way back in the garden, which started all the trouble
in the first place, which we find in Genesis three,
verse five. For God to know that in that day,
what day, the day that you therefore eat of the apple,
not the fruit, Not the apple the fruit. Then your
eyes shall be open, and ye shall be as gods,
knowing good or evil. So there's the lie that we hear,
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excuse me, thousands of thousands of years ago, and guess
what got guys like David Childreff's promulgating this same line.
Let me continue. This episode attempts to tell us that
Satan is some of misunderstood. Yet in the Guidebook of
the Supernatural i e. The Bible, we read that Satan
comes to rob, kill, and destroy. So who do we
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believe the History Channel's version or what the tech actually states.
Let me read that again, So who are we to
believe the History Channel's versions version or what the text
actually states. We are told that Satan is the adversary,
the destroyer of our souls, the Little Horn, the Antichrist,
the dragon, the wilful king. He goes about like a
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roaring lion, looking for someone to devour. In closing today's posts,
we have a history of men and women dating back
thousands of years who knew and understood who Satan was.
They wrote about this fallen cherub or as I prefer
to call him, the fallen one. They know who he
is and warn us of his diabolical plans to destroy mankind.
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Jesus describes the the follow on the best and I'll
close this, And I'm not applying this to the history channel. However,
they should understand what it is they are promulgating. Then again,
perhaps they do. This is a quote from Jesus. You
belong to your father, the devil, and you want to
carry out your father's desires. Speaking of the Pharisees here,
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he was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to
the truth, for there is no truth in him. When
he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is
a liar and the father of lies. That's from John eight,
verse forty four. So yes, you guys, check that out
if you don't know it. So who do we believe?
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Yashua Jesus who writes this two thousand years ago, or
the History Channel, And folks, I don't think there's any
challenge here. I think we all know who's right and
who's wrong, with all due respect to the History Channel.
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Remember mac FoST. I'm you're in Trevor host l A Marsvilli.
You're listening to Acceleration Radio Live tonight. Weird night. I
can't stand this night. I'm speaking in course of Halloween
and just dreadful. So my guest and I is fantastic
because we're gonna talk about all things and a lot
of different things. We'll see where it goes. But let
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me just give you a little bit background on Natalina.
She is the host of Extraordinary Intelligence. I have been
on her own radio show. She's a wonderful host to
be interviewed in tonight. That table's a turn, But Extraordinary
Intelligence was born in March of two thousand and nine.
At that time, I was deeply intrigued by all things
mysterious and unexplained. To further, I dell th into esoteric
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topics of an occult nature. The deeper I became embedded
in a new Age philosophy. While perusing my archives, we'll
probably find all kinds of strange struff. During a particularly
difficult time in my life, I had an amazing experience.
I was delivered from a very dark place and brought
into the light of Jesus in a very personal way.
I wasn't looking for him, inspitted by thumbing my nose
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at him for years, he found me. I've never been
the same due to this experience. I quickly changed my
focus here on extraordinary intelligence. While I still love to
write about high stranges and quirky curiosities, I also explored
a supernatural and conspiratorial realm more fully than I ever
did before. Now this approach is from a biblical worldview.
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I'm blessed to have thousands of regular readers who didn't
abandon me after my transformation. My hope is that whether
you agree with my world view or not, you at
least consider things from a new perspective. This world that
we live in is a big, beautiful, weird and wonderful place.
Let's explore the whole darn thing together. Nantalena, Welcome to
Acceleration Radio.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
Thank you, Elie. Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
It's it's it's our honor to have you here. We've
only got you know, time is dwindling down, so I
just kind of want to jump right in. You know,
tonight is Halloween and you go to different sites and
some of the new agers are trying to tell us that, wow,
it's really not such a bad deal, just like the
I don't know whether you heard my little ramp before,
but by I read a blog on the whole ancient
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alien thing with oh, the Saint's really not such a
bad guy, and yet what we see I want you
to address this. We seem to see the rise of
a demonic not only in our culture but on a
global level. Please speak to that.
Speaker 8 (19:52):
I absolutely agree with you, and I was listening to
your opening a blog that you read and it really
rang true to me because it's the overarching point that
I try to make on my site that the very
first lie was ye shall be as gods, and it
actually will, in my view, be the last lie, And
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everything that stretches through the New Age and the Occult
goes back to that. From my own experience being involved
in the occult in the New Age, I know it
was all about achieving your own godhood and exploring the
divinity within, and I think a lot of people miss
that point when they dabble in the occult and the supernatural.
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I actually just happened upon an article I wrote a
number of years ago where I was talking about how
much I loved to be afraid and I loved this
time of year. And the article is called Fear of
the Supernatural, the Thrill of it All, and I was
actually kind of amazed that I had written that. One
of the things that I say is that there's a
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delicious adrenaline rush that comes with a good scare, and
I love it. I fear and revel in the darkness.
Those words seem like they were written by someone else
for who I am now, But there is this sort
of excitement that comes from going into those dark and
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unknown places, and I know it all too well, but
when I wrote, though all those years ago, that I
seek out the strange and scary darkness that comes from
places unknown, what I didn't realize is that my own
mindset was reflecting that I was in a terribly dark place,
and I was going deeper and deeper into that. And
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that is the danger. Even when you just consider, you know, oh,
you're just doing it for fun. Oh it's just for
a little thrill, it's no big deal. It is a
big deal because when you spend time in those dark places,
you become that way. You become a dark person who
is drawn to dark things. And we all know where
that leads. It led me there.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Wow, Wow, that's quite a testimony. You know, during this
this this season of Halloween, it gets to the point where,
you know, when I grew up, I mean, we all
dressed up blah blah blah. We're more interested in mischief
night and soaping windows and throwing toilet paper over trees
and that kind of stuff. And that's what unfortunately, as
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a you know, as a twelve and thirteen year old,
I definitely engaged in that, as did every other twelve
and thirteen year old guy that I knew. But what
we see now is these haunted houses which didn't exist,
you know, fifty years ago. And that's I was twelve
years old fifty years ago, So fifty years ago, there
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weren't a hunted houses, not like you see on in
neighborhoods and these and and certain guys will go in
and rent these like big box you know, warehouses type
stuff and create a haunter house and charge a bunch
of people to go through it and all this stuff.
I mean that go back fifty years ago and maybe
a couple, but now it's like Halloween has become almost
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as big as Christmas, almost as big as Chris Yep,
I'm sorry, can you hear me out somehow? I click microphone? Okay, yeah,
like hear So basically for the whole Halloween deal, it
came back as a springboard into Luigi board, into witchcraft
and to wiccup, why should we avoid those things in
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your opinion.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
Well, it's interesting that you mentioned that because a number
of the other sort of mainstream shows that deal with
the supernatural radio shows, I find that the past couple
of days they've been talking about the Luigi board. They've
been talking about how it's a tool, it's an instrument,
and it can be used for good or it can
be used for evil. But what we know as people
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who believe in what the Word of God says, what
the Bible says, is that we are not to seek
this out. We are not to communicate with the dead.
We are not to communicate with the other side. And
that's the sole purpose of an item like the Ouiji board,
and also that's the sole purpose of doing things like
ghost hunts. You're seeking it out, you're looking for that communication.
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We are expressly told not to do that. And when
you do, you open yourself up to these forces that
you know obviously they're all dark, they're all they will
consume you. And it's not you know in the movies
when they show these these big grand possessions where the
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eyeballs are rolling back in the head and all of
this stuff. You know that that can happen. But it's
not always that obvious. It can be very insidious when
you're being oppressed. And for me, I believe that it
manifested in anxiety and panic attacks. And the more I
opened myself up to reaching out to the other side
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through the occult and the New Age, the worse these
panic attacks got and the more I just suffered from anxiety,
to the point where sometimes I thought I was going
to die. I would have heart palpitations that felt like
heart attacks, and I didn't recognize it as demonic. I
didn't recognize it as that I was being oppressed. I
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kept going further and further into these New Age things,
thinking that I could just tap into something to heal myself.
I was so lost. And that is the insidious part
of it is that it isn't always something so incredibly dramatic.
It's a creeping thing that happens to you that you
don't even realize until you're so deep into it that
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it's really difficult to pull yourself out of it. It
starts as something that's a parlor trick or a game,
or something that you just do for fun, or you
just read a book that that Oprah recommended, you know,
and the next thing you know, you're so deep into
it you don't you don't understand what's happening to you.
It took it took for me the Lord literally ripping
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me out of that situation to be able to reflect
back on it and see what had happened to me.
It's dangerous. It's not to be messed with, even on
a cursory level, unless you are so solidly grounded in
your faith in Jesus Christ and you are going into
it to expose it and not to glorify or revel
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in it. That's the difference.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
And of course, even then, if we engage in that,
or if it's a ministry that we're where, you know,
the the Lord puts us in, he's got to put
us in. I mean I tell people all the time.
In fact, there's one one person that wanted to help
us out, and you know it's like immediately their life
just went just went haywire. I mean, just hay why her?
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And I don't think that's a coincidence. I mean other
people might think it's a coincidence. And the thing is,
look what what you and I do and I do
this twenty four to seven. It is constantly exposing the
works of the following one and he doesn't like it.
And so you know, we're on the front lines and
we get attacked. And I know you do too, but
you know, you get people that don't want to dabble
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on this stuff and they have no idea what I
mean by this. Stuff. You know, they get a wiki
board and they go to a psychic or they'll you know,
get get a bunch of people together and a three
legged table and just see what we can conjure up,
or if we can conjure anything up. And all of
a sudden, all these things are doorways. I have one
woman that called me Natalina, spoken to her several times,
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and you know, she allowed something to come in, and
now she can't get rid of it. And when we
when I was work with her and pray with her,
just as it was coming out, she held on. She
didn't want to leave. And there's nothing you can do
because it's she's given an illegal right to stay there.
But let's move on. Look, we have this guide book
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of the supernatural, i e. The Bible, and in that,
and you've heard me talk about this, but in that
we hear stories about virgin burse, floating accents, talking donkeys,
two gold coins that appear in a fish smell, Staffs
which turn into snakes, men that walk on water, Men
that are swallowed by fish, giant fish, and then regurgitated
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three days later on dry land. Big huge bodies of
water which which just stand up like I col heap
and allow people to pass through it, and on and
on it goes water that's turned into wine, men that
rise that are raised from the dead, men who were
healed from being blind from birth. These are all supernatural phenomena.
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I mean, they just are, and they defy the laws
of physics. Why is it that our churches we all
agree as Christians, this is what we believe in everything
I saw it was from the Guy Book of the Supernatural.
I eat the Bible. We talk about this stuff. In fact,
we're getting ready for Christmas soon, which is another three
hour conversation which I will touch right now. But the
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bottom line is this. We celebrated as the Lord's birthday.
That's what we do. We's come together and we celebrated
as Christians as the Lord's Birthday. And we because Messiah
was born on that day, and we talk about the
virgin of birth. That is a supernatural act. There's no
doubt about it. That being said, that being stated and
laid down on the groundwork, please spring off that springboard.
(29:30):
If I can mix my metaphors here and tell us
why is it that the churches are afraid to discuss
the very things that are in the Guybook of the supernatural.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
You know, I can't even really explain why because it
is just mind boggling to me. I'm gonna share a
couple of statistics here. According to a few different polls
I pulled this information out, seventy three percent of Americans
believe in some form of supernatural phenomenon. Eighty million Americans
(30:01):
believe in UFOs, one in ten claim that they've actually
seen one, seventy four percent of eighteen to twenty four
year olds believe it was likely that UFOs and aliens exist,
and over half of Americans believe in demonic possession. Now,
contrast that with a twenty thirteen just from a few
(30:24):
months ago Gallup poll that showed that seventy seven percent
of people believe that religion is losing its influence on
American life and that Christianity has actually dropped by eleven
percentage points over the past twenty years in the United States,
and forty six percent this is this is a nationwide poll.
(30:48):
Forty six percent of people never think about whether or
not they are going to heaven or health.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Now, but.
Speaker 8 (30:56):
We just see, we just saw that this giant the
vast majority of Americans, And I would submit that people
worldwide believe in the supernatural in some form. So the
thing that boggles my mind is the church. The modern
church is so adamant about wanting to be relevant. They
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want to be hip, they want to attract generation. Why
they want the young people to come into the church,
so they try to seduce them with, you know, cool
preachers and fancy light shows and all of this stuff.
But it occurs to me that if they were to
address the issue of the supernatural, that is what would
(31:37):
make them relevant. Giving all of the evidence that these
polls suggest, people are searching for answers to the things
that they already believe in. They already believe in the supernatural,
so of course there's a reason why church attendance is
dropping because if they already believe in the supernatural and
the church doesn't want to address it, they're going to
(31:57):
go somewhere else for answers, just as I did. And
it would seem that the hard part is already done.
You think that the difficult thing is convincing people to
believe that there is this supernatural realm. That seems like
the big leap of faith, But the evidence shows people
already believe that, they already get that, so you don't
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have to convince them of that, you just have to
convince them of the context in which that fits, which
is the biblical worldview. Why churches don't address it, I
do not know. But I've gone to a number of
churches since I became a Christian, and it's severely lacking.
I cannot find it. And really it's really really disturbing
(32:43):
because someone needs to be addressing these things that everyone
already believes exists, you know, as Christians. I mean, you
pointed out this is something that we are uniquely able
to speak to, and we're not.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Yeah, look, I agree with you. I mean, when I'm
lecturing at churches or conferences or whatever, I say, we're
the people. We've got the answers. It's not the answers
of men. I mean, it's the answers that came from
the hand of God. We believe that the Bible is
divinely inspired, and it is, and every word that's in
there rings true, and we've got the answers, and yet
we're not using it, which reminds me of a prophecy, having
(33:21):
a form of religion but denying its power. And I
think we're at a time where Jesus warns us that
that's what the church will be like. I mean, you're right.
Why is it that the church refuses, and I mean
refuses to discuss this stuff and pretend it doesn't even exist?
I mean, look the last church I pastored it, and
that's getting on like over six years ago. Now, you know,
(33:42):
I was basically let go because I'm a frank supernaturalist
and I do move into gifts and I was talking
about UFOs and the upset some people and they didn't
want to hear about it. Well watch your seven shameless
plug here. But I can't wait till you see it, Natalie.
I mean, this stuff is is, it's real. It's version
and not going away, you know, the whole phenomena, And
(34:05):
that's just a part of it. I mean, you know,
we talked about black Eyed kids, but we've talked about
the zombie imagery not necessarily and watches. But I know
you and I have discussed it. We'll discuss it again,
maybe maybe even like right now here, here's the deal.
Why is it that the CDC is talking about zombies?
Why is it that that all of a sudden, zombies
(34:26):
like World War Z? I mean, what do they know
that we don't know does this have something to do
with the mark of the Beast where it says man
and women will die in those days and not or
seek death and not find me. Let me be phrase
that many and women will seek death in those days?
What days? The mark? The day is with the mark
of the beast is working and not be able to
find it. And we also know that when you take
(34:46):
the mark, these weird, grievous sores appear in the body.
So what are we looking at? Zombies righting around here?
I mean, I mean, why why make stuff like this?
Why the absolute fascination with zombies? What do you think
is going on with that?
Speaker 8 (35:00):
It's interesting that you mentioned that, because I was just
pondering this the other day. My most recent post on
my site is a selection of photographs that I took
as I was driving around in a residential area in
my town and I passed by a home that, like
you were speaking of earlier, this big elaborate Halloween display,
(35:20):
and the whole front yard was nothing but zombies and corpses.
And there's like a zombie bride and a zombie and
a wheelchair and just this glorification of death. And I
think that has a lot to do with it. It's
just the the reveling in that dark imagery. And there
(35:47):
was when you mentioned that about the CDC, I was
just thinking about how it was maybe just this time
last year when we were talking about all of these
zombie attacks and the quote unquote bath Salts zombies that
were all of a sudden, just all over the news,
and you can't help but feel And of course it's
(36:09):
another thing that makes you think, you know, people hearing you,
thinking that you're sounding crazy, but you can't help but
feel that with all of this information being shoved on
our throat, whether it's the Walking Dead or you know,
World War Ze, that this is a bit of predictive
programming that's happening. We are slowly being introduced to the
(36:29):
acceptance of this imagery and it is becoming something that
is get seeping into our psyche so that we are
familiar with the concept of that this zombie thing is
a real thing and it could really happen. And the
people that are really into the zombie culture, which believe
it or not, there is such a thing as the
zombie culture. People are going online and playing these games
(36:52):
where they act as though they truly are part of
a zombie apocalypse, and there's giant lists of rules about
how to survive a zombie apocalypse and how to kill
a zombie, and they get so wrapped up in it
that they just believe it is so. And the CDC
has been hosting these things at grade schools which are
(37:16):
zombie apocalypse drills, and it's supposed to Yeah, I know
it's so weird, and there's been articles about it, but
it's supposed to be getting kids used to the idea
of getting vaccinated, which is another red flag. But to
make it fun, they make the kids dress up like
their zombies, and then the CDC people are coming in
(37:36):
in like biohazard suits that pretending like they're vaccinating kids
against the zombie virus. I mean, think about when you're
a child and how impressionable you are, you know, and
that's now part of your thought process. So if something
were to really happen, I'm not saying zombies in the
(37:57):
way that Hollywood portrays it, but if something were to happen,
like a viral outbreak or something that came about through
a vaccine, we would already have that expectation that it
could happen because it pop culture has put it so
deep into our our brains.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
And that's that's really well said. I mean it bothers me. Well,
let me put it this way. I'm sort of dumbfounded
at your statement that, uh, you know, they're doing drills
in schools. I mean, what what do they know that
we don't know? I mean, who knows what they're doing
in these underground labs. I think of like prom Ilon,
where some people say lime disease actually came from plumb Island.
(38:39):
I think just even charged at a wonderful show on that,
because this is that that's Nazi had a lab on
plumb Ilon and guess what they were doing. They were
messing around with ticks that would carry some sort of
pathogen on them and boom, you know lime lime. Uh,
Connecticut is like right across the bay, and that's what
the first lime disease outbreak is. Just like put you know,
come on course, the government goes, oh, we have no
(39:01):
idea what's going on. Meanwhile, they've they've really I mean
we know that chemical weapons recently, okay they were and
we don't know by whom, And of course that almost
touched off World War three. We know that saren gas
was used in Japan. We know that that chemical weapons
(39:22):
were used by chemical any Rock against the Kurs. We
know that this stuff happens. But what we what we
haven't seen in modernity is let's say, the spread of
a disease like smallpox something like that. And it makes
me wonder, as I know it makes you wonder, why
(39:42):
is the CDC talking about the zombie apocalypse? And let
me just ask you something getting into a real life
zombie type situation. Of course, I'm talking about the Miami cannibal.
Why is it in your opinion that that you think
that Popo was a act by Rudy Eugene. Riddy Gene
(40:02):
was the guy that had to be shot numerous times
before he succumbed to his wounds as he was gnawing
the face of the transient known as Popo. And you know,
the medium made it big yell about black bath thoughts
on this, but whoa and the toxicology report came back.
Guess what, folks, No beast salts, just traces of marijuana.
(40:24):
What do you think we're looking at? With all that?
Speaker 8 (40:27):
I firmly believed from the moment I saw that that
that was a clear case of demonization, and you're right,
the Bath Salt's thing was completely ruled out. And what
a lot of people don't talk about is that around
that same time, a number of other incidents similar to
that had happened. There was a case in Indiana where
(40:49):
a man went crazy in traffic and started jumping on
top of cars and threatening to eat people, and he
was There was another guy, I think, I want to say,
in Ohio who did something very similar. All it was
an outbreak and it really makes me think, and it
almost instantly made me think of what Russ Dizdar talks
(41:11):
about with the Black Awakening, that people are programmed and
they can be triggered at any moment. Could it be
something like that? Is it more of a purely supernatural
thing where people are being demonized? Is it something like that?
I can't say for sure, but I know it wasn't drugs,
and I know that it wasn't these excuses that the
(41:35):
mainstream media was giving, And it's just interesting that it
was so it was everywhere. It was just in your face.
Every mainstream media outlet was talking about it. But now
it's just gone. No one talks about it anymore. Nobody
talks about what really happened, and I also find it
(41:55):
particularly interesting. I think one little piece of information that
came out was this man, what was his name, Rudy,
Rudy Eugene. Yeah, he was carrying a Bible when this happened,
and there were Bible pages spread everywhere. I mean, that's
some pretty potent imagery, and it does send a message
(42:16):
that this is a spiritual, supernatural thing that is happening.
To make that kind of a connection. So what was
he targeted? Was he dabbling in the occult? I think
there was some evidence of that, perhaps that he was
into some sort of Haitian voodoo thing. Whatever it was,
the fact that it happened in multiple places during the
(42:38):
relatively same time, I believe a message was being sent,
something was being tried, something was being triggered. And I
think we'll probably see it again, probably even worse next time.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
Yeah, probably. And again you go back fifty years, and
I mean this stuff just didn't exist, not that I'm
aware of. I mean, there was some pretty weird stuff done,
but nothing like nothing like this stuff that we read
about with Rudy Eugene and some of these other guys
which the media is sort of run with and then
it just goes off the page sixty or it's not
(43:10):
you know, it's not talked about at all, sort of
like the cantimutilation phenomena, which is ongoing, and the media
just doesn't even address it anymore. For the most part,
law enforcement won't track it because they know they can
never find the perpetrators because the perpetrators are interdimensional beings,
and how do you trap it an interdimensional being? How
do you pull one over? As it were? But I
(43:32):
digress with your show. I mean you interview a lot
of different people, and you come from, as I do,
of a new Age. I was immersed in it. You
were immersed in it. I was just at the Paradigm
Symposium and I was the only Christian there that I'm
aware of amidst all these other hardline New Age guys
(43:57):
and gals. And in your opinion, what's the best way
have you found a way to maybe reach them or
try to reach them, because it's very difficult. They can
sort of look at Christianity and they think they know
the Jesus that we know. They think it's some kind
of a quirky religion that they look at TV and go, oh,
(44:19):
there's there's all those crazy Jesus guys on TV. And
they just turn the channel and laugh and walk out
of the room. But you and I and many many
millions and millions of others know that the Jesus that
we know that we've been introduced to is not anything
like the nonsense that we see on the tube. That
being said, how would you address how would you share
(44:42):
the Lord with these new age guys and gals?
Speaker 8 (44:46):
The first thing that I learned was to use my
own experience as a barometer, knowing what I felt, how
I how I saw Christians. It wasn't a very very
pleasant opinion that I had at that time, but knowing
where it came from, I find that the first thing
(45:08):
I have to do is be very clear that I
have empathy for the people that are still so deep
in it. You know, Christians, sometimes I hate to say it,
but we're our own worst enemy, and sometimes we think
that if we just go beat someone on the head
with the Bible, they were going to knock some sense
into them. And that doesn't work that in ninety percent
(45:29):
of the time. That certainly doesn't work. If I have
someone A lot of people email me, and they say,
you know, I'm into the new age, and I see
you've made a change, and I don't quite understand where
you're coming from, but I saw how you used to be,
So can you try to explain to me what's happening
with you? And I always just try to be compassionate
(45:51):
and understanding, because the fact is, I understand the seduction
of the occult. I understand. I don't say to people,
you are so stupid to believe in that, What in
the world are you thinking? No, I totally get why
they believe it, And so the first thing I try
to be empathy. I have to have empathy for them
(46:12):
and have compassion for them and make it clear to
them I am not coming from a place where I
am an indoctrinated Christian my whole life, not at all.
I've been right where they are, and I'm not judging
them for being there, but I have found a better way.
And I say to people, give me, give me a
(46:35):
few minutes to give you just a little bit of
a background on myself, where I was and where I
am now, And if that touches you in any way,
give me for a few more minutes, you know, And
I try to take it really slowly. And I said
this to somebody just the other day. I've had some
criticism that I continue to be sometimes a little lighthearted
(46:58):
on my site. I don't have every other thing that
I say in Christianese. And the criticism is that, you know,
everything should be one hundred percent warning people about the
dangers of you know, going to hell and this type
of thing. That's all true. It's all true, but you
(47:19):
have to understand that people who aren't already Christians aren't
necessarily receptive to that. You have to feel your audience out,
so to speak. My audience is I have a large
percentage of non believers who still frequent in my sight,
because they're interested in the subject matter that I talk about.
It means something to them, and so you have to
(47:41):
sort of form your message to their current mindset, and
believe me, it's successful. Christians need to understand you will
get so much further if you are compassionate to the
people that you're speaking to and you have a try
to relate to them instead of looking with looking down
(48:05):
upon them, because they're they're they're fellow human beings, and
they're fallible too, and they're they're they're on the wrong path.
You have to try to relate to them. And I
took a big page from your book, La, because you
reached through the radio to me when I was a
non believer, and you used terms that that made sense
(48:27):
to me. The Guidebook to the Supernatural and ancient prophetic
texts like that worked for me where I was at
that time. You know, it actually made me at least
consider that the Bible wasn't what I previously thought it was.
So what's the harm in trying to understand who your
(48:48):
audience is and speak to them on their level. They
respect that, and when once you have their respect, they're
going to give what you're saying about the Bible more consideration.
And that has been my my tactic the whole time.
I wasn't about to change the name of my website.
And you know I said this the other day, but
(49:10):
extraordinary Jesus Intelligence dot com people would have just left
in droves, you know, they would have thought I went
off the deep end. I had to show them that
I'm still the same person. It is my worldview that changed.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
Right, Your paradigm, your worldview change, And that's what happened
to me. Thirty three years ago. Let me let me
dive into a supernatural subject because it's it's near and
dear to my heart. I've been talking about it forever.
But the whole UFO phenomena, what's your take on disclosure?
You know, guys like Stephen Bessett, Stephen Greer, the whole
disclosure movement, the nick Popes of the world, and on
(49:47):
and on it goes. What's your take? I mean, do
you think we're going to see disclosure on twenty fourteen
or at the end of twenty thirteen? What do you think?
Is I am I asking for like a crystal ball?
I know you don't know that, but what you know
from your perch, what do you see happening? Well?
Speaker 8 (50:03):
I used to have a crystal ball la, you know,
being in this field even longer than I actually had
my website in existence. I've been hearing about disclosure for
a long time and I kind of think that we
are headed in that direction.
Speaker 4 (50:23):
Now.
Speaker 8 (50:23):
What it is precisely that they will disclose, I'm not
sure because, as we know, these aren't little green men
from Mars that we're talking about here, So what is
it that they really will allow us to know? It's
really interesting to research things like the Collins Elite to
find out that there's this government agency that looks into
(50:49):
UFOs from a spiritual standpoint, and when you consider that
there are potentially factions within the government that already recognize
UFOs for what they are from a spiritual I don't
know if I would go so far as to say
that they are strictly Christian, but at least from a
supernatural point of view. It makes me wonder exactly how
(51:12):
that disclosure would come about, because, as we know, the
people pulling the strings behind the scenes are not do
not have our best interests in mind. I believe it
will probably be presented as these are our space brothers.
They're here to help us. They're here to take us
to our next stage of evolution. They're going to help
(51:35):
us with free energy, and they're going to evolve our
spiritual paradigm. And that's all going to lead into this
sort of one world religion that Prophecy tells us about
where we all unite under this banner of oneness. We
can unite for our own human humanity's evolution. And that's
(52:01):
scary because that is exactly what happened in the Garden
of Eden. We shall be as gods. We are going
to evolve to this status of godhood. And I believe
that if disclosure happens, that's going to be the point
that it's they're going to help us evolve. That will
be the claim.
Speaker 4 (52:22):
And that's I stand with you on that one percent.
That's exactly one of the things that they'll say. You know,
before you came on, I read the blog about the
whole thing from the ancient Aliens, as we talked about,
and I know you heard that. It's it's just it's
amazing how this is all coming down. And I want
(52:42):
to go back to the church and sort of close
it with this, but the church is just ignorant of it.
I mean, they were asleep at the wheel. The stuff's
coming down like a freight train on steroids, and the
church just will not deal with it. And yet, you know,
the new Agers, God love them, They're all over.
Speaker 8 (52:58):
This thing, like why don't I Yeah, it's it's true,
And their voices are getting louder and louder and louder.
I think sometimes people hear the term New Age and
they think that this is something from you know, the
Age of Aquarius from the sixties and seventies. Oh no,
it is huge. It is happening right now and it's
the same. There's nothing new about the New Age, as
(53:20):
they say, but it is becoming so prevalent and in
very insidious ways. Pick up the book The Secret. That's
the New Age. That's the law of attraction. You know,
your own divinity, tapping into yourself as creator? Who needs God?
If you can be a creator?
Speaker 4 (53:39):
Sure?
Speaker 8 (53:40):
And it it It is the direction we are going
in a big way because it is being presented now
in a way that isn't hippy dippy. It's like it's
the cool new thing. It's everybody, it's science, you know.
That's how it's being presented now. And that's why it's
so scary, because people are into the New Age and
they don't even know it.
Speaker 4 (54:02):
Let me ask you one last question. There's a lot
of stuff going around on a net which makes you
real paranoi when you read it about you know, runs
on the banks, collapse of a dollar fall, flag events
in the country. What have you heard? What can you
speak to any of that.
Speaker 8 (54:19):
The thing that's really on my mind right now is
the fact that we are headed towards some sort of chaos,
some sort of point where things are going to collapse.
You take the collapse of the dollar, you take the
government that what's happening Obamacare, my goodness. I mean we
could do ten shows on that. It is going to
(54:40):
bankrupt our country. It is going to lead to panic
unlike I think we have seen. And I don't like
to be a doomsday but facts are facts. This is
you know, I have lived through nine to eleven, I
have lived through so many different things. I've never been
so troubled as I am in the wake of Obamacare.
This all, this is a big deal.
Speaker 4 (54:58):
So think we're down with the three minute mark. Give
us your closing thoughts. Thank you so much for coming
on the show. I consider you a fellow warrior, a
watch woman and what we do, and I just thank
you for being on our side and coming on the
show and just continually you know you're right for our
magazine and your articles are always pithy and just full
(55:20):
of information. And I'll just thank you that you know
you came on and just thank you for who you are.
Speaker 6 (55:27):
Well.
Speaker 8 (55:28):
Thank you, La, you know you you have been very
instrumental in my walk. And I have to say it's
a little surreal when I first became a Christian, I
poured over episodes of Acceleration Radio, and who would have
ever thought that one day I would end up being
a guest on your show. It's it's surreal and it's weird,
and it's really cool. It's amazing how our Lord works.
(55:49):
And so I really just thank you for having me on.
And I hope that if anyone out there is listening
and they know people who are involved in the New
Age or the occult, don't don't try to reach them
with fear and intimidation. Reach them with love and compassionate
will go such a long way.
Speaker 4 (56:06):
Absolutely, And how do we get a hold of you?
On your website? Give us that please?
Speaker 8 (56:10):
You can go to Extraordinary Intelligence dot com. I blog weekly,
I do radio a podcast as often as I can.
All of the links to iTunes, everything is on the website.
There's a place where you can contact me on the website.
Everything you could possibly want to know about what it
is that I do is right there at Extraordinary Intelligence
(56:31):
dot com.
Speaker 4 (56:32):
And Alena, thanks so much for coming on this show.
Really appreciate it. Folks, you're listening to Acceleration Radio. Our
guest tonight, Natalina from Extraordinary Intelligence. Check it, check our
out Extraordinary intelligence dot com. I really was an honor
having her here. Next week we're going to be talking
with Pat and his book, The JFK Assassination and the
Uncentered Story of the Two Oswalts. You won't want to
(56:53):
miss this, folks. It is a groundbreaking book, chalk full
of information. We are on the fiftieth or a team happened.
I've been to delete Positive, I've stood behind and the
grassy know on the fence there. In my opinion, there's
no way Oswald. There's no way. I'll say it again,
Oswald did the crime. There's absolutely a way. It wasn't conspiracy.
And we're gonna talk about it all through the month
(57:14):
of November K month because it's the fiftieth anniversary. Our
country changed that day. Next week, Pat Channon, The JFCAS
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