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Oh my god, it's a freaking sasquatch. Welcome to the Bigfoot,
Terror in the Woods Sightings and Encounters Podcast. I am
(01:39):
your host, w J Shean, Hello everybody, and thank you
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Speaker 4 (04:38):
What a maroon?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
So, bro, what do you got in cryptids in the news?
Another oddity segment for this podcast.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Yeah, so we got a couple of things in the
news this week that I want to touch on at
least lightly.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
And then we're going to go and.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Talk about a classic hairy Man encounter of sorts. Right, So,
first off, I mean, right now, as I'm sitting here, Bill,
I should be able to look up at the Moon
and see in theory the Artemis spaceship from NASA circling
(05:18):
the Moon. And unfortunately, as you may know, that mission
was scrubbed yesterday morning, so they didn't launch it on time.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
What was the weather, No, no, I wish it was weather.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
They had what they thought might have been a leak
on the fuel tank and then they ruled that that
wasn't a leak and not a problem. But they have
a problem with one of the three or four engines.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
At the base of the rocket.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
All right, well, look better safe than sorry in those situations,
you know.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm just I'm kind of pulling for
NASA to get back into space race, right because this
is all about, really the race to Mars, and it's
NASA against you know, Elon Musk and some others trying
to get there first. And the first step is kind
of cool. This Artemis rocket, it didn't have any people
(06:13):
on it. They actually had mannequins where the astronauts would
sit apparently, and they believe that to get to Mars,
first we have to set up a base on the Moon.
And this is the first step to setting up a
base on the Moon, which is super cool because I
(06:33):
guess the capsule from Artemis would go down to the
surface of the Moon. That would start to be the base,
and then there would be an orbiting craft around the
Moon that would be where future rockets from the Earth
would land and dock with this craft that's orbiting the Moon,
and then you take some type of transport from the
(06:56):
orbiting the lunar orbiting craft down to the Moon and
then on a Mars journey from there. So it's kind
of cool idea, right.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I wonder if the eventually the orbiter on which people
will be is going to be some type of like
warehouse or staging area to bring things to the Moon.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
It could be, but they really just want to use
the Moon from what I understand, as the next launch point,
so you know, you could use a lot less fuel
and stuff like that if you launch from the Moon
toward Mars compared to going from the Earth towards Mars.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, well, you don't have to fight through the gravitational
field and the atmosphere of the Earth.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yeah, less gravity, right.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, once you fire up the small look at what
propels the the space station and the capsules when they're docking.
These little jets that give out a little blest to
direct them and get them moving. There's no resistance bottle rockets.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Oh yeah, maybe not bottle rockets. So the Artemis launch
was scrubbed.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
But any of you NASA folks, if you're also Bigfoot
enthusiasts and you're listening, we're pulling for you.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, no, no doubt about it. We're big fans of
NASA and all that they do. And it's too bad
that the program was all but shut down for a
long time due to a disinterest by the wrong parties
and lack of funding. Because I think what they're doing
(08:29):
is sensational. Yeah, and I think, you know, not to
get into the debate here, there was room for improvement
and how it was wrung.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
So I think they did a different approach with this program,
and I was pulling for them.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Again, it's not over.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
They they're hoping that they can fix the engine, the
faulty engine while it's on the launch pad. If they
have to bring it back into that huge whatever they
call it, the equipment, reassembly building. Then we're probably a
month or two out and what I understand.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, yeah, well, so it's better that they get it
the first time and get it right than to fumble
through it and destroy the rocket entirely.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
You know, you don't want that to I heard this morning.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
I think each engine costs like seven or eight billion
dollars with.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
A B Yeah. So yeah, it's a cheap project.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Cheap project, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Then the second bit of news that I want to
cover briefly is the web Telescope put back some images
of Jupiter.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Did you see those this week?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah? Pretty amazing. How when they just focus on the
planet spectacular, unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Yeah, So if you haven't seen that, folks, take a
look at the web telescope images of Jupiter. We've had
great images of Jupiter before, but you know, if you
compare it to great, these are spectac Yeah. Yeah, you know,
you can see some of the moons of Jupiter, you
can see the rings of Jupiter, and then you can
(10:08):
see the auroras at north and south pole of Jupiter.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Spectascular.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Really incredible, man.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
You know again, it looks like a poster that was
made up on a computer that a kid would hang
on the wall of their room, but it's actually a
photograph of Jupiter.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, like an artist conception, right, exact, an.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Artist conception of Jupiter, but these are actually photographs coming back.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
So yeah, really is amazing man. Yeah, and much future
success to that program and whatever's going to spin out
of that, because you know they're not going to stop there. Yeah,
I mean this is going to spark a maelstrom of
desire globally to see what else we can do better
(10:57):
than that. You know, they're going to keep trying to
one up it because nobody's gonna say, oh, sorry, guys,
it's not as good as we expected and we're withdrawing
the funds. Yeah, you know this is really Uh, this
pushed them over the top in ways that I don't
know anybody really expected. But now that the world is
(11:18):
seeing this, people are just like, you know, wow, what
else you know?
Speaker 5 (11:26):
So again, I still love the stuff that we shared
a few podcasts ago of the the web telescopes photos
of all of the other galaxies around, solar systems around.
I mean I was like, oh my goodness, they were spectacular.
I mean they were honestly ten times more spectacular than
the picture of Jupiter.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
But the picture of Jupiter is pretty pretty darn cool
as well.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah, keV. You know, I have no idea how many
universities around the globe have astronomy programs, but yeah, can
you imagine with one fell swoop this web telescope, those
classes are going to be standing room only exactly.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
There's so much more interesting now that it's not an
artist rendering.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah, and you actually have these photographs.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, cow Yeah, I think it's the industry, if you
could call it an industry or the scientific field. I
think it's just going to explode.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
So much more interest in the field as well from students,
which is great.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, Hey, I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't
mind sitting on top of a mount in some telescope observatory,
h turning a few bucks and looking at the night
sky every day. You know, that would be awesome.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Yeah, as long as it's not on some remote island
in the middle of the Pacific. It's kind of like
a modern day lighthouse keeper.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Well, if you're up in a mountain, you might have
to contend with the hairy man too, wondering what you're
doing in there.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Come in and by the way, speaking of the airy Man,
we're going to transition to that.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
So the main topic that I'm going to.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Cover this week in cryptids in the News and other
oddities is what is known as the Sierra Sounds. Oh yeah, okay, yeah,
we haven't covered this yet, which is a little surprising,
but these were the recordings that were made in Sierra
Nevada and I'm sorry, in the Sierra Nevada Mountains back
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in California near Lake Tahoe, so it's kind of between
Lake Tahoe and Yosemite National Park. And this was in
nineteen seventy one. Two folks, a skeptical reporter named Al
Berry and his buddy Ron Moorehead.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Went up there. And this was kind of after the
Patty film went you know, viral in the day.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Of course, we didn't viral videos back then, but the
Patty Film, of course was in nineteen sixty seven, so
this was four years later where Al and Ron went
up there and as reporters, they wanted to see if
they could find themselves a bigfoot.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah you know what, keV, I don't know if you
call it. But Ron made like a little guest cameo
appearance on Alaska Kill a Bigfoot, Yes series, he showed
up there, yep, yep, exactly.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
And so they're out there and they one night they
woke up or they were woken up.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
To some genuinely bizarre cries.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
And I'll put the links up on our website, Bigfoot
Terror into Woods dot com under this episode one six'.
Four but you, know some of you that are big
enthusiasts have probably heard these. Before but what's really interesting
now is some of the recent analysis that's been done
on the, sounds which we'll get, to but when you
(15:01):
listen to, this, well first let's talk about What alberry.
Said so he, said as dusk became dark, night something
approached the camp from the ridge, Above, yeah wrapping on
wood or rocks as it. Came and when it, arrived
two voices THAT i could discern could be. Heard and
(15:23):
he said it, vocalized and the sounds carried through the,
trees And i've never heard human voices carry ever before or.
Since and he said when it, whistled it was a
clear and beautiful whistle like a bird might, make and
he could hear these creatures whatever they, were whistling back
(15:46):
and forth at one.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Another and when.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
You listen to the tape recordings which they made at the,
time and you can hear them talking about it while
the tape is, recording just like you AND i Would
bill if we were listening to. This it ranges from
like grunting back and forth in these really really strong,
grunts like not like a, bear for, example the whooping
(16:11):
back and, forth and at Times Alan ron.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Are whooping to the.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Creatures you can hear the difference of the human whoop
versus these, creatures and they seem to be whooping. Back
and then probably the most spectacular part is when these
creatures are like talking to one. Another AND i say
that very carefully, talking but in some language we never
heard of.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Before.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah Now i've heard this many many times and it
is just. INCREDIBLE i don't think it was. Hoaxed kudos
To ron for putting the time in the. Effort this
was a real an outpost type area they went. To
(16:58):
this was not easy to get two and you know
they were out there alone and the fact that they
got these. Recordings kudos to, them you, know for the
work that they put, in because it's. Outstanding it's as
outstanding today as it was.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Then, yeah and the.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Analysis so if you take that the recordings then and
you bring them the modern. DAY i, mean many experts
have studied the, audio and these experts bill, right they're
clever like most of the. Time And i'll give you
another example where they figured out it was a.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Hoax in a, minute but not this.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
One these experts they study the audio and they they are.
Listening And i'm going to tell you about one by
the name Of Scott. Nelson he was a retired crypto
linguist who used to be employed by The. Navy he
told a local newspaper that when he heard the, recording
his whole world. Changed it took me out of my.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Paradigm.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Interesting, yeah and he, says, basically it definitely appeared to
be some intelligent language that was spoken by a family
of intelligent humanoid, beings so talking back and forth to one.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Another.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah and it definitely sounded like a, conversation like a
give and take you, say sound like no sound you
never heard? Before, yeah really.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Odd and also when these modern linguists study the, conversation
they say that the sounds couldn't be made by a,
human like there's too much volume of air going across
the vocal cords and the range is too much for
humans to.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Do that's the other thing that's. Odd you. Know we
think of bigfoots of having this, deep kind of foreboding,
voice if you, Will but they have a tremendous range
of sounds that they can go through from high and.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Low, yeah broader range than the human vocal.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Cords. Yeah, yeah it's, interesting you, know super.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
COOL i, MEAN i can't believe. It, so you, KNOW
i talked about.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
One of the experts that looked at it, Here Scott,
nelson but there's numerous ones that have reviewed, it and
they have come back and, said you, know best of their,
knowledge this is not a, hoax you, know and it's not.
Humans And i'm going to contrast, THIS i promised the
contrast it to one that folks might have seen on the.
(19:36):
INTERNET i don't think we covered, it but you also
see it on television on some of The History channel
specials where the so called mushroom Hunter. Bill did you
ever see the recording of the guy who's hunting mushrooms
on YouTube and he records the sound of what he
says is a?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Bigfoot you've heard, that? Right? Yeah what does that?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Sound? Yeah i've listened to that in the, past BUT
i have no recollection of WHAT i heard at this. Point,
well it.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Sounds like something you never heard.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Before but what's interesting is one of these audiologists crypto linguists.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Listens to it and you can see. This it's on
one of the shows on The History.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
CHANNEL i think, it's you, know the one that's Like
beyond The Skinwalker ranch where they try to debunk, things.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
And they covered this recently and it's super.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Cool the, guy the crypto, linguist speech, specialist whatever he,
was he listens to it and he's, like, yeah this
is definitely not. Human but for some reason he thought
that he had heard it. Before and you, know they
always show the sound, wave, right like the recording of the,
Soundwave and he found it on this dinosaur documentary, okay
(21:00):
where it was the sound of a dinosaur that was
created for this documentary and it was an exact. Match
so this mushroom hunter person apparently somehow or someone, else
we don't know what's. Him somebody broadcasts this sound through a,
speaker it, appears and it was a recording of this dinosaur.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Documentary, yeah and that was quite a bit of sleuth
or detective work on the part of that guy that
he had heard it before and.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Did oh it's absolutely.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Amazing, yeah he did his due diligence and found it. Out.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Yeah so just.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
A good, exact you, know a good example of you,
know many folks have looked at These Sierra, sounds The
Sierra sound, recordings and, FOLKS i will put the recording
from YouTube up on our website again under podcast one
sixty four and you go listen if you haven't heard it,
before and you'll be, like what the heck is? That you,
(22:00):
know the whoops and, stuff the, Whistles, okay but when
they start talking to one. Another, MAN i don't know
what language that. Is but it's not a language we.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Know, yeah and it definitely sounds like a, Language, yeah
some type of. SPEAK i, mean let's let's put it this.
Way it's not like listening to the raccoon's gibber jabber
in my.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Backyard, no it's it's even more sophisticated than good old
cousin it from The adams family.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Because in it with the sunglasses and the derby.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
EXACTLY i JUST i just had that image in my,
mind the sunglasses and the nice Derbyond.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Oh my.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Goodness, yeah The sierra. Sounds how many times Did ron record?
Them was it just a one show or did he
go back and get them a couple of? TIMES i
only know of the one. Time uh. Huh. Yeah interesting
how the Fellow berry relives how they heard them coming
(23:13):
down from the. Ridge, yes so they must have known
they had, arrived or maybe they were tracking Uh Ron
moorehead And.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Berry, well, yeah they were in the, tent, Right so
it's the middle of the.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Night they're, Asleep, yeah and all of a sudden you
are awakened by, like what the heck is?
Speaker 4 (23:32):
That you?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Know, yeah you. Know and interesting also that they didn't
come closer or make themselves.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Visible well also though it's the middle of the, Night, Bill.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah and what do you? Think what are you? Think
and they may have been, visible but just standing.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Off in the, darts And i'm, thinking, like if it's a,
bigfoot you, know you're out in the.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Forest if there's no moon that, night this.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Thing covered in black or brown, hair you couldn't see
it if it was ten feet.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Away, yeah and they Were i'm sure they were in the.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Timber, yeah and they didn't have a fire, going you,
know they were sleeping.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah, boy you want to talk, about you know what
of steel just to stand your ground with a tent.
TERRIFYING i don't even know if those, Guys i'm sure
they were. Armed they must have had.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Arms h you never.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Know, YEAH i don't, know it's, right, Man.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
But like a group of them there, ANYWAY i don't
know if the arms would help you that.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Much, well at least you'd have something you could, make
an explosive soundfire in a couple of rounds that might spook,
something you. Know, yeah, yeah but well that's really, yeah
The sierra. Sounds, boy what a crazy that's right up
there with the old time great bigfoot. Encounters you, know
(24:53):
it really.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
IS i mean it's only, audio but it's. Spectacular. Yeah
nineteen seventy.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
One, yeah me back to these repeated accounts of like
The russian professor and others who said they thought they
were listening to like people in A chinese kitchen when
you're ordering, food or or The siberian dialect that The
(25:19):
russian professor didn't. Know it's, very very odd that people
try to put a label on what it is they're,
hearing you.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Know, yep.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Exactly, wow that's, crazy, Man, wow very cool.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Stuff, yeah and how about the whistling and. Whatnot you,
know these grunts and they who always had A, yeah
it's like they have a, collection you know of things they,
do you, know very very. Strange and, LOOK i don't
(25:56):
know of any other animal other than something that mimic
like that crazy bird In australia that mimic noises that it, hears,
right that bird does like cell, phones card, doors slamming people,
TALKING i, mean just. Unbelievable, yeah but the volume.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Of sound, here they're, saying, it's you, know more than any,
animal or certainly more than any bird could create.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Too.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah well you'd have to have huge lung, capacity, right you.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
KNOW i mean they always talk about like a fox
and a wolf and they can't create that much, sound
or and a bear just doesn't do any of that
kind of. Vocalization, yeah you, know they grunt and they
growl and, stuff but that's.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
It and they say things, like, hey, yogi what are we?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Doing hey about some picanic?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Biscuits hey boo, boo how about some picnic.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Biscuits they don't really talk that, way do?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
They sure birds talked that, way you just haven't heard. Them, Okay,
wow that's, Interesting. keV, yeah so we'll have to stay
in touch with the crew and The ortomus launch and
when that goes off and when they start getting about
(27:21):
the business of orbiting The. Moon we'll have to just
keep our eyes on what, happens because to, me that's really.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Interesting, yeah no doubt about, it you. Know and it
may Go friday Or. Saturday, okay they're saying if.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
They're able to fix the engine on the, pad so
hopefully that's the.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Case, Yeah, now very. Interesting, Cool, WELL i got something
really cool, here and once again a, strange strange, encounter
to say the least in that how it happened and
the way it. Happened but who's to say what's strange
(28:01):
and what is not strange in the realm Of. Bigfoot
so whatever happens. Happens and this particular account came to
me from a fellow Named Danny, rodriguez a turkey hunter
working The Western pennsylvania. Woods So Western, pennsylvania which believe
it or, not at times has been a hotbed For bigfoot. Activity,
(28:29):
now this is What danny had to. Say there are
three of us who get together on a property In
pennsylvania every turkey, Season i've been hunting here for about
twelve or thirteen. Years we pay the landowner a nominal
fee to be, there and we typically throw him a
(28:52):
nice bird at the hunt's. End his property is a
large tract of land that butts up against another famili's,
farm and all in all this track totals about three hundred,
acres so it's a decent piece of. Property both of
these landholdings are against a semi mountainous area and are
(29:18):
mostly comprised of heavily wooded hills and some low lying
fields predominantly made up of low grasses and some patches
of scrubby. Brush So danny does a nice job of
painting a picture of where it was he and these guys.
Work part of this area used to be, farmland but
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the area in which we hunt is mostly the rolling,
hills which are patched with deep wheat like, grass some,
trees and some open fields of green. Grass we keep
coming back because we never go home empty, handed so it's.
Productive on our first morning setup in ninety, nine nineteen ninety,
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nine we had positioned ourselves with our backs against the
trees in the usual, manner facing a field where we
had had very good success the previous. YEAR i must
mention to you that the real tree camo that we
all wear is just about a perfect match for this
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lands tree cover as you can. Imagine just about as
perfect a match for this lance tree tree cover as
you can. Imagine if you didn't know that we were,
THERE i guarantee you that you would walk right by
us and never know that we were sitting next to.
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You that's how perfect the blend is up against this
bark and. Cover we were virtually. Invisible we began our
calls and heard a number of birds. Respond after about
an hour or, so a couple of nice toms entered
the field behind some, hens and moments later my Friend
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jimmy had bagged our first bird at a. Trip after
the first shots are, fired you're pretty much out of
luck for the rest of the, day unless you're a
game to come. Back in the latter part of the.
Afternoon the second, morning we set up the same way
as we had the day. Before our habit was to
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spread out in a, line each of us selecting the
largest tree or grouping of trees we could find to lean.
Against we get ourselves, comfortable and then the calling and waiting.
Begins on this particular, morning there was a, heavy damp
fog laying in the valley we were, in which severely
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diminished our. Visibility, now typically one guy in a group
is labeled the. Caller it's never a good idea to
have several men calling all over the place and stepping
on each other's, toes so to, speak which would completely
destroy the realism of what it is we're trying to.
Create on this particular, MORNING i was doing the. Calling
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we had heard a number of, birds but then everything
had come to a. Standstill this is not all that
unusual when you're turkey, hunting but this location is usually,
busy and we had been batting a thousand here for
a dozen. Years, typically when we, called they. Came now
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whether or not they would come and range for a
shot is another story, altogether but most of the time
they would at the very least come into. View, however
this day all the responses had. Stopped so there we,
are and while we're lying in, wait the fog was.
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Thickening the forecast was for heavy rain later in the,
day but our visibility had already dropped to forty yards or,
less and it seemed like it was going to continue
to close in on. US i kept calling, periodically but
still we heard, nothing so we sat and. Waited it's,
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rare but sometimes you don't get much of a vocal
response and they will still. Appear at about seven point,
thirty it was then THAT i noticed a shadowy figure
moving just in the fringe of our visibility at the,
time if it had moved three feet further, away it
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would have been completely obscured by the. Fog BUT i saw,
it And i'm sure the other guys did as. Well
my initial thought was that it was a big guy
in a gilly, suit since the silhouette of WHAT i
was looking at was so. Big, however we knew that
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there was nobody else authorized by the owner to be
where we. Were that is not to say that a
loose cannon couldn't be running around out, here but a
guy like, that think about, it could be easily. Shut
the silhouette was totally obscured from view by the fog
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for a brief moment before it came stepping right out
of it, again like an actor emerging from behind the
curtain or a magician walking through a cloud of. Smoke
it was walking right towards. ME i am sure that
the boys saw it, too and a fear came over
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me THAT i can't. Describe of, COURSE i had my
twelve gage loaded and, ready BUT i just couldn't drop
the gun and shoot whatever it. Was it had reached
a point about thirty yards away BEFORE i, Said, hey,
man what the hell do you think you're? Doing just
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AS i attempted to address this, dude or WHAT i
thought was a, dude a face came into. Focus it
was not a man at. All it was a. BIGFOOT
i knew that, immediately BUT i couldn't retrieve my. WORDS
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i could see large black eyes and a big. Mouth
its face was ancient looking and partially covered in, hair
and the visible skin was weathered and. Worn this bigfoot
had to be at least seven feet tall and perhaps
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three or four feet. WIDE i could see that its
hair or fur was really, long like that of A shetland,
pony and as it came closer there was a distinct
rotten smell that didn't quite register at the. Time in
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my peripheral. VISION i could see the other guys getting
to their, feet and when they did, so this thing
led out a loud, roar like a pissed off, lion
and as it, roared it kind of twisted its head
and moved its. ARMS i guess it was, aggravated BUT
i wondered if this movement helped it to. Roar maybe
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only two seconds after it, roared it, turned disappearing into
the fog with a few fairt. Steps the guys moved
over quickly with their guns At already we all knew
this was a, monster not a stray, hunter and once
it had, disappeared they ran over to, me asking what
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the hell was. That we looked, around catching sight of
the impressions that this, big hairy thing had left in the.
Grass we could see exactly where it had come from
and where it had. Gone even though we could have
tracked it pretty, easily none of us were willing to
go looking for this thing in the. FOG i was
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glad it hadn't. Attacked the quickness with which it had
moved away showed me that it could have been on
me in a split. Second this creature was so big
and thick that Now i'm not even sure my twelve
gage could have stopped. It as we made our way
back to the owner's, house each of us kept looking
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over our shoulders wondering if we were going to be
rushed by this. Thing when we made it to the,
house the owner was amazed at, ourteil and he said
that there had always been stories and rumors of such
creatures in the, state but he himself had never seen.
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Anything he added that these types of things were always
spoken about in private circles for fear of what others might.
Think it was certainly a day that none of us
will ever. Forget what do you think of, That?
Speaker 5 (38:35):
keV, well first, off he's not sure after twelve games
would have stopped. IT i, mean come, on this is
clearly an example where you need THE ar fifteen with
a thirty shot banana clip and five five six.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Armor, yes, carlines now it's.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Amazing but you, KNOW i was put off by the
comparison to The shetland.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Pony.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
YEAH i gotta tell.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
You IF i saw an eight or ten foot hairy,
man no matter what his hair looked, LIKE i don't
know If i'd make the comparison to A shetland.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Pony you.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
KNOW i kind of like the fact that he said
to face looked ancient.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Looking oh, yeah that was.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
COOL i mean like. Ancient i'm picturing like KINDA i don't,
know like really grizly and, wrinkled, furrowed you, know, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
Yeah and you've seen some of those, sketches you know
of the Hair man where it does have that wrinkled.
Face you, know it looks, ancient like what you would
draw someone that was one hundred and ten years. Old
Ass and of course yea to the person who compared
it to The shetland, pony he did also mention that
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it had some big stank associated with. IT i don't
know of a shetlanpony hash.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Stank. Yeah, well you, know the descriptions of these creatures
faces varies. Greatly you. Know sometimes they look really, smooth
like a kind of like a young. Chimpanzee, yep the
skin is kind of tight and the eyeballs just. Pop
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but when you say man ancient, looking that's like a
rugged looking old sea captain or.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Something you, know, YEAH i was thinking the same, thing
old sea.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Captain somebody who's really been out, there just you, know
definitely not using any skincare products.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
And not out there like you AND i are out,
there but out.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
There, yeah really out there.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
Either that are we are really out? There and he's
just out. There we'll let the listeners.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Aside pretty incredible, though you, know the turkey hunter in Western. Pennsylvania,
now you're right though about that being a bit of
a hotbed of. Sightings, yeah WELL i told you about
the security guard's brother who photographed that footprint from the
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hospital THAT i saw maybe a year. Ago, yeah and
he was up in that area. Too so you, know
there's something stomping around out, there you, know and every
once in a while somebody's getting a glimpse of, it
and probably more frequently than, not we just don't hear from.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
Them that's.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
True that's you, know very, bizarre you. Know, yeah but that's.
It another great another great. Account another group of guys
who are out there doing something when most people are, homesleeping.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
And a group of guys that are regularly out in the.
Wilderness you, know all. Right we always talk about, That.
Bill if you want to go see a, bigfoot you
can't just say, like, hey you know, what In, December
i'm going to go out to The Sierra Nevada mountains
and see a.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Bigfoot doesn't typically work that. Way.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Yeah, well these, guys just turkey hunting, alone had been
at this place for twelve or thirteen years exactly. Exactly
and who knows what other kind of hunting they do
it interim or fishing or you, know a lot of
sportsmen do a lot of, things you.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
Know oh, YEAH i don't know of any hunters that
only hunt, turkeys you, know they don't go out in
the other seasons and hunt whatever.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Else. Dear, yeah, well maybe take a trip somewhere once
in a while as a special. Treat and other birds, too, yeah, birds,
game pheasant, yep, yeah interesting, though you, know very. Cool
so there you have, it, Bro, well what do we
have in a listener mail?
Speaker 5 (42:50):
Today, oh we got some good, Ones. Phil the first
one comes, in and it's. Interesting it ties into WHAT
i was talking abouts in the news and other. Oddities
so it comes From mike and it, says, first let
me offer my condolences On paul's. PASSING i know it's
a struggle every, day AND i just want to let
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you know That i'm praying for.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
You so that's very nice of, You. Mike.
Speaker 5 (43:15):
Excellent, yeah and he SAYS i also wanted to write
BECAUSE i heard W j mention in a recent episode
about how often people say the verbalizations they hear from
bigfoot sounded like they were Speaking, russian and this is pretty,
interesting he. Said it reminded me of the murders of
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The Rue morgue By Edgar Allan, poe and he says
in this, story a detective Name Auguste dupin investigated the
murders of two women In. Paris in interviewing the witnesses
who heard the murders but did not see the, murderer
they all said that the murderer was speaking in a
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language that they did not. Understand for, example An english
witness would say that he was Speaking, italian A french
witness would say they were Speaking, german et. Cetera And,
dupin the, detective determined that the common theme was that
every witness described the words as being in a language
they couldn't. Speak from this and other, clues he came
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to the conclusion that the murders had been committed by
an orangutang.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
No, kidding what a weird.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
Thing, yeah, Yeah And mike, WRITES i thought the parallel was.
INTERESTING i love the show and hope you both have
a great.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Week, well thank, You. Mike and it's pretty cool to
hear About Edgar Allan.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
POE i wonder if there's any, factual any factual reality
to pose usage of an. Orangutang do they have some
type of?
Speaker 5 (44:54):
SPEAK i think he you, KNOW i think he's just being,
funny oh in the, story meaning, That, like BUT i
think the key part of this is, that like IF
i know a little bit Of, ITALIAN i know a
little bit Of, german BUT i.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Don't know Any.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
Russian IF i hear something someone speaking, Something i'll be, like,
oh it must Be.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
Russian, YEAH i don't recognize.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
It, yeah and they're thinking it's it's some type of human. Speak.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
Yes but of, course like when you hear The sierra,
sounds you, know which is WHY i picked to read
this email this. Week when you hear The sierra, SOUNDS
i don't know what that, Is, Bill but it really
does sound like a.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Language, yeah there's no. Doubt there's a. Distinct doesn't count like.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
Grunts and, Noises it sounds like.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Words, Yeah and there's also an up and down to the.
Vocalizations like almost if you were making a point or
arguing a point with, somebody or if you would aggravated
or discribe with somebody who said something to, you were, like,
well why don't you just shut. Up, yeah you know
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something like. That you, know, ye be, quiet they're gonna hear,
us you. Know very.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
Cool, yeah, yeah no doubt about.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
It.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
Wow, yeah with inflection right in the.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Voice that's.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
It.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Inflection, yeah all.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Right and our.
Speaker 5 (46:19):
Last letter comes from the other side of the. World
this week bill From takahashi From japan ah OR i
should say Probably Takahashi, son and he, Says i've recently
discovered your podcast And i'm listening to it to work
on My english skills. Too SO i got to interrupt
there and, Say i'm, Sorry Takahashi, son that you're Learning
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english from my brother and aw.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (46:46):
Yeah But Takahashi son, WRITES i just listened to your
episode on the Suicide forest In japan or what we
call and let me see IF i can say this Ak,
gahara and he says the forest has a historical reputation
as a home of.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
Yuri or ghosts of the dead.
Speaker 5 (47:09):
In japanese, mythology and he, said this indeed is a
truly scary.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
Place keep up the great, Work Takahashi.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
San uh huh well.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
Tom, so so thank You Takashi.
Speaker 5 (47:34):
Son and again you may want to listen to some
people that can speak Better english than my brother AND. I.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
Hey what's? Hey what's you all of My? English what's
you do? You?
Speaker 4 (47:46):
Juia let's talk about some.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Uts, hey where's the? TAILORT i gotta?
Speaker 4 (47:53):
Go all, Right, bell we got another podcast in the.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
Books thank you everyone for, listening and thank you for writing,
in and thank you for those great five star.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Reviews, yeah and, remember, folks if you should find yourself
horseback riding through The sierras or turkey hunting in Western,
pennsylvania you better remember just one. Thing always carry more
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gun than you think you're gonna. Need sleep.
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