Gobble Gobble-LET'S GET JACKED UP!

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Now onto the show.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
This is Let's Get Jacked Up on Fringe Radio Network.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Okay, Happy Thanksgiving everybody. We're gathered here around the table
before we start eating. First of all, thank you Raymonds
for being here. Appreciated. Let's go around the table and
say what we're thankful for what do you What do
you say, Big Bob?

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yeah, I think it's important for us to just reflect
on the year. It's been a crazy year, but you know,
as as God fearing people and as people who believe
in the goodness of this country, I think it's important
for us to just think, think back and reflect on
the good times.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
All Right, So let's see who wants to start. I
guess I'll start. Uh. First, I want to say I'm
grateful for the Raymonds for being here. First and foremost,
I'm grateful for we have a house, you know. I'm
grateful for Jesus. Uh, And I'm grateful that we have
friends that love us. Okay, who wants to go next?

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Let's start with the little ones, Bryce and Hazel. What
are you guys grateful for?

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Bryson, for Jesus and God.

Speaker 6 (01:57):
Hazel, I'm grateful with God.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Okay, how about the girls, Sophia, what do you think?

Speaker 7 (02:07):
I am grateful for just my family and because I
get to hang out with a lot of good people
and it really makes me feel like I'm being loved.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Oh, that's so cute. Olivia.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Your turn.

Speaker 7 (02:20):
I am thankful for my teacher named Miss Dunagan and
my student teacher named miss Kennedy. Thank you for all
you've done for us.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Okay, and how about Raylan.

Speaker 8 (02:34):
We decided to have like outside dinners with our grandma
and grandpa and I'm very thankful for that. And I'm
thankful that the COVID nineteen is getting better and that
we can actually see people now. And I'm thankful for
my family and friends.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Okay, now it's the wives turn. She better say me, Karen,
what do you think? What are you thankful for?

Speaker 9 (02:57):
I am thankful for a roof over our head, food
and our bellies. I'm thankful for dudge apple pie, honey.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
How about you?

Speaker 10 (03:07):
I'm thankful for family and friends, thankful for when my
husband goes one night without farting.

Speaker 6 (03:13):
Oh really, okay, really?

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, so you don't want me to fart anymore?

Speaker 11 (03:21):
Is that it?

Speaker 9 (03:23):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (03:24):
Daddy, there's someone outside with binoculars looking in through our window.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Tim, did you notice that car out front when when
we got here? I didn't. Yeah, dude, there was a car.
It looked like one of those you know, it was.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Like those undercovered cop cars.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
You know, it's like the like the like the vand
it's all blacked out, you know, with the little antenta
on top is really weird.

Speaker 7 (03:48):
It looks like a police officer.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Huh. I didn't even notice that. I must have been
too busy bringing in the turkey.

Speaker 6 (03:56):
Yeah, gobble, gobble, uh yeah, Hello, May I help you?

Speaker 12 (04:11):
I tell you Thanksgiving is for boughten night kind turkey
for you, Salba.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
What do you mean to Thanksgiving is canceled?

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (04:19):
It's Thanksgiving. This is a time to celebrate the Pilgrims
and the Indians, you know, and all that stuff that
the history books are trying to make us forget about.

Speaker 12 (04:26):
Right, there are too many people in this house and
you refuse to wear your masks.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Who is in charge?

Speaker 11 (04:33):
Well, I am, but neither of you.

Speaker 6 (04:35):
You're not wearing a mask either, sir.

Speaker 12 (04:37):
Do this, I say, not this I do governor cruiseom
requires obedience. You failed, sheddling.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
I failed to listen to some coop tell me what
I can and cannot do. It's none of his business
what I do in my house. This is private property.

Speaker 12 (04:52):
Listen closely. We don't care if this is a private property.
You must comply. Kind of vida.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Listen, dude, We're just trying to have a good time. Yeah,
I want you to enjoy. Why don't you come in
and have some turkey. Us dads are just hanging out
having a good time. Come have a you know, a
dad beverage with us.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
H Well, look, there's plenty of turkey you guys, if
you want some, we would love to have you over here.
We got ham we got turkey, we got cranberry, we
got pumpkin pie.

Speaker 12 (05:22):
In your face, I spy, why there are too many
dads at this home? Cruiseome law require us all homes
to be without dads.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
I never heard that law.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
It's so ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
What do you what do you think we are collecting
welfare or something.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
I thought this was America.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Apparently this is America, home of the fatherless. Yeah, dude,
that's so ridiculous, fatherless homes. This institution we call America
was founded on family values, having a nice, strong nuclear family.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
Right.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Where do you the adversary trying to break down homes?

Speaker 4 (06:01):
You know what I need to do. I think it's
important for us. We got the whole family here. I think, sir,
it's important that we pray for you.

Speaker 11 (06:07):
Do not pray for me.

Speaker 12 (06:08):
We're wrong with you.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I think we should pray for you, sir.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yeah, I think it's important, So we pray. Yeah, you
have the father.

Speaker 9 (06:14):
Lord.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
We come before you today just to put before you
this man who's come to our home, and he is
coming at us as a threat. Lord, we want to
accept him as as a member of God's children.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Lord.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
We pray for his salvation. We pray that he finds you,
and that he will actively seek you and will graciously
join us in greeting you with you.

Speaker 12 (06:38):
It's not a bible, a bible forbidden?

Speaker 3 (06:40):
We actually, yes, it is a Bible. And where does
where is this law that's forbidden?

Speaker 6 (06:46):
That's it.

Speaker 12 (06:47):
You're all going to the PETA camp.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
PEDA camps you mean FEMA camps?

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Yeah, Peta. What do you mean, like the people that
are against animal cruelty and stuff?

Speaker 12 (06:55):
No, not prima peta. It is no in Maine to
eat turkey.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
What year am I in?

Speaker 4 (07:02):
I know that Benjamin Franklin wanted to make the turkey
the national bird, but let's be real, this is twenty twenty.
Oh well that explains everything.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
Let's go.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Coming to you live somewhere deep in Fresno, California. It's
less kid, Jack Dop sinners Saved by Grace.

Speaker 13 (07:31):
He're your hosts, Tim, Bobby and Karen.

Speaker 6 (07:39):
And welcome to Yes, get.

Speaker 14 (07:45):
Sure, Oh boy, go Tim.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Oh my goodness, try that again. Okay, I think I
still have what's that? Okay, there we go. Okay, so hey,
happy Thanksgiving everybody.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
And if you have more than ten people in your house,
get rid.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
Of them or you'll be fired by the state of California.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
We uh. If you're hearing this, then obviously what you
heard in the skid did not happen. We are still here,
but we are recording this on a Wednesday night. It's
that Thursday because it is Thanksgiving. And guess what we
do have families? Yeah, we do. So there, pumpkinhead, pumpkinhead.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yes. I just want to say a big thank you
to my buddy Lars for providing us with the authentic
German hilarious. Yes, he's such a funny guy.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
He's hilarious.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Thank you, Larn. And if you guys were to look
up that German accent or the German words any of
those little hind sight words hinds and sights or whatever
they actually are, like translated into words like butterfly and kisses,
and you know so, yes, if you knew German, actually
I've heard it, you'd say, wow, that makes no sense.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yes, that was the point.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
That was the point.

Speaker 15 (09:28):
Yeah, always the point.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
So always the point. Well, how you doing, Karen? What
is that?

Speaker 9 (09:38):
It's a long day and I'm going to try to
follow along.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
Okay, it hasn't been that bad.

Speaker 15 (09:46):
I'm on my second cup of coffee and as.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Second this is for the day or just right now. Okay,
I've been drinking nothing but coffee all day, all day.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
As we're recording this, I will be u here in
California is like ten o'clock curfew, I guess you can.
So I'm going to be testing that out because I
will be leaving here after ten o'clock. I'm a rebel.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
You are a rebel. What do you think?

Speaker 3 (10:12):
I'm a rebel that doesn't seem to like kick your
heels off?

Speaker 9 (10:19):
No, I just because I already know how I feel
about this. It's like, I don't know, you guys are
very damn the man. I'm just kind of like, oh, okay,
well that's that's fine. Doesn't affect me.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah, So before we get started with our topic tonight,
I want to go through here.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
You know, folks, the CDC has some new guidelines.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Right.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
I thought this might be a little fun because I
think it's funny. I do. I think it's funny.

Speaker 15 (10:51):
This might be a little fun because I think it's funny.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
But then again, then what I think is funny may
not think what you think is funny. I don't know, CDC.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
I really have no idea what you're talking about. Right now,
you can.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
See coronavirus guidelines for the holidays no singing, alcohol or
loud music.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
You can't sing alcohol.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
I don't know what this has to do with the virus,
but apparently, yeah, let's see.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
That's weird. But okay, so they're saying that you can't
sing during the holidays. No alcohol, Well I know that
as far as I am aware of. Was it? Pennsylvania
has already canceled alcohol, like you can't buy alcohol this week,
like at all? Yeah, Pennsylvania. Yeah, let me check it

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right now. I'm gonna look up, let me tack my key.

Speaker 15 (11:43):
I'm gonna have to.

Speaker 9 (11:46):
Really now, you're just I'll stay in my house after
ten o'clock, fine, whatever, but I can't do that with alcoholcohol.

Speaker 15 (11:57):
Actually know that was coffee.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
So take it out. You take it back.

Speaker 15 (12:01):
Yeah, yeah, you take it back.

Speaker 9 (12:02):
When they start cutting off coffee or making Starbucks clothes,
then you will have some problems.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Okay, I'm trying to see why.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Okay, ready ahead. New York Post. The New York Post
says that the Pennsylvania governor halts alcohol sales the day
before Thanksgiving. What. That's exactly right. Tom Wolf announced Monday
that new COVID safety measures included halting all sales of
alcohol the day before Thanksgiving. It will, he says, they should.

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They will stop selling alcohol starting at five pm Wednesday
until eight am Thursday.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
What.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
He added that Thanksgiving is the biggest day for drinking
and hopes the mandate could help slow the spread of
the virus because somehow drinking alcohol has something to do
with this frickin virus.

Speaker 15 (12:51):
Right, everything has to do with the virus.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
It's so stupid. And I mean, if you look at
the guy, the guy looks like he is an alien.
I mean it looks like he's no look at his face,
look at his eyes, Look at those eyes. He's wearing
a man skin.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
A man's skin. Yeah, well, maybe maybe it's a mask.

Speaker 15 (13:13):
Maybe maybe he's just getting in the Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Other measures that they've got, let's see it says here
shift he says this is an advisory. He said, all Pennsylvanians,
in order to stay safe, ought to stay home. And
it's vital that every single Pennsylvanian take these mitigation steps seriously.

Speaker 15 (13:31):
So here's my question.

Speaker 9 (13:33):
Was it a surprise, like did he at four thirty
five say you know what? Five o'clock done cut off?
Because there was any type of warning, people were just
like all right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
The day before, yeah what? And I think it has
a lot to do with bars and stuff as well.
But this one was Clo, California. It was posted on
the twenty third of novembreem.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
Yeah you would drink. You don't have to buy me
one drink.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
The other measures required that gathering should be small and
limited to members of a person's person's household, and schools
that are in these counties of substantial's substantial COVID nineteen
spread should continue to follow safety measures such as wearing
masks so at least they still have their kids in school.

Speaker 11 (14:23):
Well, your masks.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
There are too many people in this house.

Speaker 6 (14:31):
No more dads.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
That was funny. Governor Growlsome mandates all dad's, all homes
be without dads.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah. So, more than one million COVID cases were reported
in the United States over the last seven days.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
How about for the standard flu Yeah nothing, no, one not.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Shocking.

Speaker 15 (14:55):
No, that just means that the flu vaccines are working.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Oh that must be uh huh.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah, considerations for the small gatherings with family and friends, celebrating.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Virtually with.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Or with members of your own household who are consistently
taking measures to reduce the spread of COVID nineteen poses
the lowest risk for spread.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Okay, anyway, all right, so what are we talking about
today too?

Speaker 11 (15:28):
All right?

Speaker 3 (15:28):
So I wanted to get into this, you know, Psalms
one O six, in Psalms one O seven, I wanted
to get into this because it's Thanksgiving and it talks
about giving thanks right, but it's more also about God's love,
It's grace and his mercy. Okay, And what we see
here in Psalms one O six is basically the Israelites,

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you know, God's people. They're in a mess, some of
it of their own doings, some of it not. But
they were in a mess, and they got across the
Red Sea, and then they were like you know, in
a good spot. And so they were given thanks and
praise to God. And if you guys don't mind, I
like to play a little bit there go and then

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you know, we get stop and all.

Speaker 16 (16:14):
That uk go for you here Chapter one hundred and six. Hallelujah.
Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good. His
faithful love endures forever. Who can declare the Lord's mighty
acts or proclaim all the praise do him? How happy
are those who uphold justice, who practice righteousness at all times?

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Remember me, Lord, when you show favor to your people,
come to me with your salvation, so that I may
enjoy the prosperity of your chosen ones. Rejoice in the
joy of your nation, and boast about your heritage. Both
we and our fathers have sinned. We have done wrong
and have acted wickedly. Our fathers in Egypt did not

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grasp the significance of your wondrous works or remember your
many acts of faithful love. Instead, they rebelled by the sea,
the Red Sea. Yet he saved them for his name's sake.
To make his power known. He rebuked the red sea,
and it dried up. He led them through the depths

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as through a desert. He saved them from the power
of the adversary. He redeemed them from the power of
the enemy. Water covered their foes. Not one of them remained.
Then they believed his promises and sang his praise. But
they soon forgot his works and would not wait for

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his counsel. They were seized with craving in the wilderness
and tested God in the desert. He gave them what
they asked for, but sent a wasting disease among them
in the cat.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
You but I think we see starting to see a
trend here, you know, I mean they did. They're realizing
their faults and they're like crying out to God and
yeah for forgiveness. But here they're also saying thank you,
thank you for being merciful and your grace and loving
us even through all our messes. That's why I gather really, yeah,

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what do you think you're not getting that?

Speaker 9 (18:27):
Well, there are a few things stuck out to me,
like as we read this. The first of course, saying
give thanks to the Lord, for you is good, his
love and doors forever. We start there, and you know,
his mighty acts blessed.

Speaker 6 (18:38):
You know.

Speaker 9 (18:39):
Verse three stuck out to me because we were talking
about being rule breakers. Blessed are those who act justly,
who always do what is right unless it inconveniences.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Listen, listen, Being right doesn't always mean following the law.

Speaker 9 (18:55):
Right, Okay, well, agree to disagree on that, keep going,
but anyway.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Because clearly one of us is wrong on that one, all.

Speaker 15 (19:05):
Right, clearly clearly no that you know.

Speaker 9 (19:12):
That just kind of stuck out to me as whereas
you know. But again, this is conversation we had with
Chips last week where it's like who do we serve?

Speaker 15 (19:19):
Who do we obey?

Speaker 9 (19:21):
And again, to me, the curfew is not asking us
to do anything ungodly right, not yet, but yet we're
like adamant about rebelling against it even though it really
doesn't affect you well, And again you bring up a
good point. You know, if it's ten o'clock now, what

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if it's eight o'clock next week? And what if it's
you know, And that's where I can definitely see where
I guess because it doesn't seem as limited. It's like, okay,
whatever you know. And and again I don't think it's
that you can't leave your house or at least as
of right now, it's just that you can't be in
a business or witering, you know, places for chilling. But anyway,

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off the subject, but one thing that stuck out to
me was that in verses four and five he talks
about prosperity. Remember me, Lord, when you show favor to
your people, that way we enjoy the prosperity, the ones
you chose, blah blah blah. That basically, remember me with

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your blessings, Remember when you bless your children, even though
in verse six we have sinned. And then he goes
into all of the wrong that we're doing. Yet he's
still asking to be blessed, you know. And so that
that kind of stuck out to me, like wow, you know,
because it shows that forgiveness to me anyway, where it's like,

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you know, we are able to be blessed, we are
able to be remembered by him, even though and he
goes through this long list of everything that we did.
But even more in verse yet, you saved You saved
them for his name's sake, you know, again, not for
oh and I mean obviously you can't wipe out, you know, Israel,
because the Messiah has to come through the line, you know,

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and stuff but he did it for his purposes and
then delivered it, did these mighty works that he talks about.
But then in verse thirteen, what happens, But they soon
forgot what he had done. Yeah, and that's where you
were saying, Oh, they're so thankful, they're so thankful. I'm like,
what I got out of this?

Speaker 17 (21:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (21:27):
Well, and that's just like us, is that when things
are when we see as mighty works, when he does
these wonderful things, were thankful, and then we get comfortable,
or then we get inconvenienced, and then we because he
talks about the reason they forgot him was because they
were in the desert and they were hungry. And he
says in verse fish fifteen, well, yeah, he gave them

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what they.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Asked for, but he gave him what they needed, not
what they wanted. Yeah, exactly, that's the difference, you know.

Speaker 9 (21:55):
And but how often does God give us what we
need well all the time, all the time, but not
what we wanted well?

Speaker 4 (22:01):
And it's all about perspective too, because I mean, if
somebody who is starving in the desert is given what
they need, they're going to be very appreciative versus some
fat slob like me sitting at my dining room table,
not appreciating what I need because it's not what I
want because what I need is doesn't suit my desires.

Speaker 15 (22:23):
You know, yeah, but I think that.

Speaker 9 (22:26):
But this is a perfect example of me, is that
when COVID first hit, we all found out, I know,
we were talking about we have so much money, not
so much money, but just like we because we weren't
going anywhere, we weren't doing anything. We weren't and but
yet we were still content, we were still able to
you know, find joy in things, and it really just

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opened our eyes to what we had, how the Lord
had blessed us, and how the Lord was doing things
for us now. But that's the thing. But they forgot soon.
They forgot you know, we're only thirteen verses in here,
just like we're only six months out. And yet when
we had this humbling experience, when all of this hit,

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and we're like, wow, this is amazing, Like we should
totally like this is how it should be and we
should be reminded of blah blah blah, and we forgot,
you know, we forgot, because now it's well, how dare
they tell me to go in at ten o'clock. Well, hell, business,
you're lucky. Businesses are open. Don't you remember six months
ago what it was, you.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Know, like I don't know, getting it back on it. Yeah,
I mean, uh, that's that is a different subject. But
I see where you're going with that. So you know,
in the beginning they were, well, also, this is a
one of six. Is a continuation from one o five

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and one oh five is a lot of the same
things where they are giving thanks and they're happy and
they're excited about being out, and then this continuation of
it and now here like in the middle of one
of six there, like you said, starting to grumble.

Speaker 16 (24:10):
Yeah, camp, they were envious of Moses and of Aaron,
the Lord's holy One. The earth opened up and swallowed Dathan.
It covered the assembly of a byrom. Fire blazed throughout
their assembly. Flames consumed the wicked. At horror, they made
a calf and worshiped the cast metal image. They exchanged

(24:32):
their glory for the image of a grass eating ox.
They forgot God, their savior, who did great things in Egypt,
wondrous works in the land of ham Awe, inspiring acts
at the Red Sea. So he said he would have
destroyed them if Moses, his chosen one, had not stood
before him in the breach to turn his wrath away

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from destroying them. They despised the pleasant land and did
not believe his promise. They grumbled in their tents and
did not listen to the Lord. So he raised his
hand against them with an oath that he would make
them fall in the desert and would disperse their descendants
among the nations, scattering them throughout the lands. They aligned

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themselves with bale of p r and eate sacrifices offered
to lifeless gods. They angered the Lord with their deeds,
and a plague broke out against them, But Phineas stood
up and intervened, and the plague was stopped. It was
credited to him as righteousness throughout all generations to come.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
So who intervened?

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Phineas intervened, And yeah, they thought that actually Phineas and
Ferb intervened. They created some gadget And you don't know
what I'm talking about to you.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Tim, Oh, I'm the cartoon, yes.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Anyway, But yeah, so yeah, it's it's interesting because I
mean it says here that Phineas stood up and intervened,
and the plague was stopped, and it has credited him
as righteous throughout all generations to come. Phineas intervened. But
who put a stop to the plague? I would thank God,

(26:23):
of course, right, But I feel like, and that's kind
of that interpretation thing where it's like, even though.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Did this guy pray and nobody else did.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
I don't know, I don't know, it doesn't really a
witch doctor.

Speaker 15 (26:37):
Or like one of the you know, well.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
I suppose in this case that could be, because man,
they have idols and all kinds of different things going
on here.

Speaker 9 (26:49):
Yeah, I still I'm still having a hard time finding out,
like figuring out where we're thankful?

Speaker 15 (26:54):
Are we gonna get?

Speaker 9 (26:55):
Okay? I mean, I know I see it at the end,
but I'm just a go ahead.

Speaker 15 (27:00):
I'll tell you why.

Speaker 16 (27:01):
They angered the Lord that the waters of Marabah and
Moses suffered because of them, for they embittered his spirit,
and he spoke rashly with his lips. They did not
destroy the peoples as the Lord had commanded them, but
mingled with the nations and adopted their ways. They served
their idols, which became a snare to them. They sacrificed

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their sons and daughters, to demons. They shed innocent blood,
the blood of their sons and daughters, whom they sacrificed
to the idols of Canaan, so the land became polluted
with blood. They defiled themselves by their actions and prostituted
themselves by their deeds. Therefore the Lord's anger burned against

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his people, and he abhorred his own inheritance. He handed
them over to the nations. Those who hated them, ruled
over them. Their enemies oppressed them, and they were subdued
under their power. He rescued them many times, but they
continued to rebel deliberately and were beaten down by their iniquity.

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When he heard their cry, he took note of their distress,
remembered his covenant with them, and relented. According to the
abundance of his faithful love. He caused them to be
pitied before all their captors. Save us, Lord, how God,
and gather us from the nations, so that we may

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give thanks to your holy name and rejoice in your praise.
Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, from everlasting to everlasting.
Let all the people say Amen, hallelujah.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
So as we see there they have done many many
many bad things.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
So I was looking on the Phineas thing. It was
during and number twenty five. Okay, And it actually says
here that the Lord said to Moses, take all the
leaders of the people and execute them in broad daylight
before the Lord, so that his burning anger may turn

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away from Israel. Okay. So Moses told Israel's judges kill
each of the men who align themselves with Bail or Pior,
whatever his name is. An Israelite man came bringing a
Midianite woman to his relatives in the side of Moses

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and the whole Israelite community while they were weeping at
the entrance of the tent of meeting. When Phineas, son
of Elzar, son of Aaron, the priest, saw this, he
got up from the assembly, took a spear in his hand,
followed the Israelite man to the tent, and drove it
through both the Israelite man and the woman through her belly.

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Then the plague on the Israelite on the Israelite stopped,
but those who died in the plague number twenty four thousand.
So the dude was like, all right, God, I'm gonna
do what you tell me to do, right, And he
made he made a scene of it pretty crazy.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah, you know, it's fun I mean, not funny, but
very interesting. Is I see a lot of similarities to
from them to today. Yeah, you know, I mean there
is also worship of Bail continuing here and.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Well, yeah, I mean I think that the worshiping of
Bail is it's more present now, I feel like than
it was then. Yeah, I mean, besides the fact that
the numbers of people are greater. Right, but if you
look at look at the who do we idolize, we idealize,
we idolize people, right, actors and and people of celebrity. Right,

(31:00):
But you look at these actors and if you worship
an actor, I feel like you worship them and what
they do. And if if they're cut up in that
dark sided stuff, then you are enabling that to progress
by you know, paying to see them on TV or
on film or you know whatever.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
It is a lot of people don't know or understand.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
But I think the main difference here is these are
God's people and a lot what's a lot of times
what's going on here today may not be Christians involved
with that, and some are I guess. But in this case,
you know, this is God's people, the Jews Israelites, so

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he was really mad that.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Oh yeah, I mean he was ready to take them
and like really make them suffer or make them pay
the pay there. You know, he was ready to judge
against them.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
What are you thinking about that?

Speaker 4 (31:57):
She's still thinking Thanksgiving? Where is this coming?

Speaker 9 (32:01):
No? I believe I think that.

Speaker 15 (32:09):
This is sorry, too many thoughts. That is what.

Speaker 9 (32:20):
You said, that this is written to about, you know,
God's people. This is you know, but I think it's
more evident or it's more of a it's a bigger
deal when it is God's people who are doing those things.
Because you said, you know, well the dark state, you know,
the people who are involved in that dark students have
probably not believers, blah blah. But it doesn't matter if

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the world is involved in those things. You know, the
verse that comes to mind is you or of your
father the devil and the lust of your father you're
gonna do? And so it's like those are the we
can talk about, like how bad the world is and
how all of these things are happening. But that that's natural, Yeah,
Like that's natural for that to happen. What's not is

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the believers doing it too, you know, I guess. So
that's to me what stuck out about that part is
that is that Yeah, I mean, of course people are
gonna be doing that. Of course during this time, people
worship bill people they didn't know any different, but God's
chosen people did know different, but chose to do it anyway.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, that's what he's really upset about because yeah, I
mean he's like deliberately doing it and almost like to
his face and they know God.

Speaker 9 (33:32):
Yeah, well, and then you know, they talk about how
they were angry with Moses and Aaron, you know, and
for and all the things, the hatred that they had
towards them and stuff. Yet they were the ones who
were just trying to be like, come on, guys, come on, like.

Speaker 15 (33:48):
We need to you know, keep going.

Speaker 9 (33:51):
God's got us, you know, getting in and they were
angry against that. And I think that that's I mean,
when we're doing bad and some one is trying to
encourage us, or someone is trying to pray with us.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
Or just keep you on accountable.

Speaker 15 (34:06):
Hold you accountable, how do you feel it takes you off?

Speaker 4 (34:09):
Especially? But it's one thing if if somebody tells you, hey,
hold me accountable versus someone's holding accountable because they feel
it's that they're calling to hold you accountable because of
you know, the decisions that you made, the position you
have in leadership, whatever it might be.

Speaker 9 (34:29):
Yeah, we just get so defensive because we don't want
to admit it was wrong.

Speaker 15 (34:34):
Take it.

Speaker 9 (34:34):
We can't just say, you know, like and take that conviction.
It's always like almost like we think they have an
ulterior motive, like they want to think they're better than
us or whatever.

Speaker 15 (34:44):
Okay, well at this moment they are.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
I know people, I know people, we'll see. And the
hard part for me is that I know people who
do do that. They love to point things out for
the sake of their own betterment. And we all know
of one individ.

Speaker 9 (35:00):
Yes, but I feel like, but what if go with
me on this one. What if that's just your perception?

Speaker 4 (35:09):
What if that is just it would be it could
be seen as my perception if there weren't if there
weren't certain instances where it was almost like gleefully pointing
it out the flaw.

Speaker 15 (35:22):
Yeah, yeah, I can see that, But I think like.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Giddy, I mean like nearly like mister burns, clapping his
hands and excitement kind of the thing, you know, where
I was just like, all right, dude, you're a jerk.
There's a difference between godly, you know, explaining something godly
to for correction and explaining, you know, and doing something
to correct somebody and throwing God in there so that
it's justified, but it's still pointing out their flaws. Yeah,

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does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (35:50):
And that's the hard part.

Speaker 15 (35:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (35:52):
Again, I feel like there are times when we want
to see it like that because we don't.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Want to see the well.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
And I'd be the first one to to admit that
I will probably see it the negative side first, because
I don't want because I don't I don't like being wrong,
and I don't feel like I'm wrong a lot of
the time, and so when somebody points out my errors,
I'm just like, prove it first, right, I mean, But

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that's what gets hurt mad at me most is because.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
I am because you're so arrogant.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Yeah, confident in my decision making. But you know, it's
sometimes that confidence.

Speaker 15 (36:31):
Is is what if the proof is the Bible?

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (36:35):
Okay, you know, And I feel like sometimes especially with
the person that we're thinking is that sometimes the proof
is the Bible and you're just kind of like, well,
you're just being a jerk, and it's like, okay.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Yeah, but it's it's one thing that it's one thing
to say, Karen. You know, I've been noticing and I
think it's important. Remember in verse in Psalms one o seven,
it talks about thanksgiving and to be thankful for the things.
And I've noticed you've been a little bit blah blah blah.
You might want to, you know, just remember that you're
one of God's people and you don't be a little

(37:06):
more humble blah blahlah whatever. Right Versus, I have been
waiting to tell you this, but you're not being very godly.
And it says here in Psalms one oh seven that
you're supposed to be a thankful person. Dude, you're not
being thankful. You're not thankful for anything in fact that
you know. I really find it amusing that you think

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you're this you know, Christian guy or gal uh, and
yet you you're notne even taking the Bible seriously. So
there's the difference in approach. There's a difference of why
are you saying it? To me, how are you saying
it to me? And if you really are coming to
me from a place of conviction, you're not gonna come
at me with like trying to put your thumb down

(37:49):
on it versus.

Speaker 9 (37:51):
But you feel like that's the second way that you're saying.
Is that person trying to put their thumb down on you?

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Yeah, I mean it's trying to keep it as vegu
as possible, I know.

Speaker 9 (38:02):
But I guess what I'm saying is is that Biblically,
is are either of those statements wrong? If it's if
the action is.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Okay, so biblically they're so yes. Biblically, they're both being
pointing out the truth right. But one of them is
coming from a place of compassion. The other one is
coming from a place of and in my opinion, is
like a nose, you know, like using you as a

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step stool to to put you in your place. Because
I've been waiting to tell you this, but you are
a horrible person because you're not doing what.

Speaker 9 (38:44):
You're Isn't that how the Pharisees saw Jesus? Isn't that
how you know what the Pharisees.

Speaker 15 (38:51):
And saw Jesus?

Speaker 9 (38:53):
What do you mean, like, isn't that what the Pharisees
thought of what Jesus had to say? I'm like, who
are you for you to tell us? Yeah, I guess
when he was when he was just laying out what
it was.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Oh, I said, you're saying whoa yeah, well who is
this guy? Right?

Speaker 15 (39:15):
Yeah, it's it's it's yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
So in my opinion, though, here's the thing God calls
us to come to people with conviction to to for.
I mean, and it all, maybe this person is doing
it that way, right, But also I think that it's
in it. I think I used a poor example as
the problem. I really do so, because I had I
had this conversation with Tim after it happened, and I

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remember saying, like, dude, Tim, this kid is like he
and I even told you gleefully telling me about how
how I was raising my children wrong because I was
letting them you know whatever, oh, because they were disrespectful
to him. And I'm like, dude, who the heck do
you think you are? You don't even have kids, my
kids eight, You don't even understand what's going on, and

(40:01):
you're trying to tell me that I'm being ungodly with
my children like raise your own first and then tell
me buddy.

Speaker 9 (40:09):
But again like that again defensive, Yeah, of course immediately
defensive instead of seeing it as we and only because
there have been times, especially with this person that I
that I know as well, where I do feel like
God can use even that, you know, even those times

(40:29):
that we want to be defensive to really just be like, hey,
like it may not be that interaction, but that interaction
may be setting you up to hear it a second time.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
I get it, you know. It doesn't mean I like it.

Speaker 9 (40:43):
No, but but that's but that's exactly what I'm trying
to get to, is that fact, the fact that we don't.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
We don't like to hear what we don't like to hear.

Speaker 15 (40:56):
It doesn't matter if we like it or not.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
No, like im and I just said that part. I'm
the worst person for that because I think I think
I'm right most of the time.

Speaker 9 (41:04):
And you know, I mean again, at the root of
it all, like if our kids were disrespectful to someone,
if our kids were you know whatever, it is, like
I think you get you get bothered by blanket statements
of like you're raising your kids wrong, you know, but
but you know, like that's what you heard instead of

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so okay.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
So what Karen is saying, what if his heart was
right but the approach is wrong or yeah, I can.

Speaker 9 (41:34):
Appreciate that he thinks he thinks it's both, you know
what I mean in the in this case, his heart
is more of like like he just really loves giving
it to people like you know.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
The yeah, no, he yeah, it's it's like the it's
the opportunity to put people who he feels are not
in the right place.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Well, you know, and if that's the case, then he's
in the wrong right.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
So, yeah, everybody's wrong, that's all.

Speaker 9 (42:02):
Everything, you know, And that's really what it is. That
everybody's wrong is half the time, honestly, because anytime we
are leading with our flesh, we are wrong. Whether it's
whether it's we're the ones saying the conviction to someone
or we're the one being convicted. Anytime we're letting our

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flesh take that moment.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
You know why, Because the truth doesn't care about your feelings.

Speaker 9 (42:30):
Yeah right, Yeah, doesn't mean you don't have them, but
just you know, like so you get upset about stuff
like that. I get upset about you know, but the
way I feel about things.

Speaker 15 (42:43):
You just feel. Your feeling is anger. My feeling is
you know, no.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
I mean, yeah, my feeling. Yeah, no, my feeling is
anger too. But I also I can't stand it when
people try to make justifications for their actions based off
of my actions or vice versa.

Speaker 9 (42:58):
I know you're really getting heat about this because you've
picked an object to start moving.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
Just wait till I start humming, and you know it's.

Speaker 9 (43:05):
Really exactly Yeah, the clearing of the throat.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
That's what it is, that one right there. Uh huh,
So I do that. I did it on purpose, so
you hear. But especially when I'm on the on the road.
Oh my goodness. If I'm on the freeway and somebody
does something to tick me off, I clear my throat.

Speaker 9 (43:24):
Karen's like, honey, no, it's any any time he's in
an awkward situation, or if it's just kind of like
if we're arguing about something and he's like, oh, yeah,
well this is what I think about that.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
So it tightens my throat. I can't help it. The
blood starts flowing my throat.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Tight diabetes.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
No, this is long before I have that, Yeah, as
long as I've known it.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Well, all right, but we're.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
Thankful for that right.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yes, But we see at the end here one O
six that they finally had enough and they are going
back to God.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
And what we are seeing is God is merciful enough
to say, Okay, I relent and I forgive you, and
I will continue to love you and give you grace.
And now we go to one oh seven, which I
think is very good because we could totally relate to

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this what we're going through in twenty twenty as well.
So check one O seven.

Speaker 16 (44:35):
Out chapter one hundred seven. Thank you, give thanks to
the Lord, for he is good. His faithful love endures forever.
Let the redeemed of the Lord proclaim that he has
redeemed them from the power of the full and has
gathered them from the lands from the east and the west,
from the north and the south. Some wandered in the

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desolate wilderness, finding no way to assis where they could live.
They were hungry and thirsty. Their spirits failed within them.
Then they cried out to the Lord in their trouble.
He rescued them from their distress. He led them by
the right path to go to a city where they
could live. Let them give thanks to the Lord for

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his faithful love and his wondrous works for all humanity.
For he has satisfied the thirsty and filled the hungry
with good things. Others sat in darkness and gloom, prisoners
and cruel chains, because they rebelled against God's commands and
despised the counsel of the most High. He broke their

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spirits with hard labor. They stumbled and there was no
one to help. Then they cried out to the Lord
in their trouble. He saved them from their distress. He
brought them out of darkness and gloom and broke their
chains apart. Let them give thanks to the Lord for
his faithful love and his wondrous works for all humanity.

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For he has broken down the bronze gates and cut
through the iron bars.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
I mean, is that incredible? So some of them even
went back again. But yet they then cried out and God,
yet again, He's forgiven.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
Him, you know. And that's one thing that is remarkable
about God is that because he is all loving. You know,
he's just, but he's loving, and so his his his
love is stronger than his just and just what Pastor
Chips was saying last week, you know, if you guys
caught that episode if you didn't check it out.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
It's really good that God is so much more than
just you know, with the fear of God. He's so
much more than saying oh, oh I better not do
this or else. Well look how many or else time
I'm here because these guys, you know, they just continue
to sin and sin and sin and sin, and and

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God kept.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
But is that an invitation to know?

Speaker 3 (47:11):
But what I'm saying is, look at how merciful and graceful,
gracious he is. And then they asked for forgiveness and
He gave it to him. No, I'm not at all
saying you go test that out, but because there are
times where God says that's enough. And you know, we
saw again we saw it last week where he most

(47:33):
likely had dropped dead two people you know, so.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Do not.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
But so you don't want to mess with God, yet
he is a loving God at the.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
Same time, Well, I mean, if you look here, it
says here that he broke their spirits with hard labor. Yeah,
And that's the thing is that, like you can disobey God,
but he's going to He's You're going to feel it,
whether it's you know, the wrath or through hard labor,
you know, through through through trials and tribulations, you know,

(48:09):
and that God will will remind you on how mighty
he is. I think, you know. And I don't think
he's doing it in a revenge way or in a
you know, like a vengeful, spiteful way. I think it's
more of a helping you to realize what it's like
without him.

Speaker 9 (48:28):
But I mean, do you really feel like that's what
the Israelis saw being in Egypt?

Speaker 15 (48:33):
As do? Like I feel like.

Speaker 9 (48:38):
Because we do become complacent, because we do forget, because
we do like it's almost like when we when bad
things happen or when we do have to toil and
we are broken by hard labor and blah blah blah,
that's just life, you know, Like we don't see it
as God consequences for.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Action, gotcha, more of a it's a hard knocked life.

Speaker 15 (49:01):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 9 (49:02):
Like well you know those I guess to get bad
luck or a case you know this or that or yeah,
I don't know, not to say that if you were
a better Christian your car wouldn't break down, but just
you know, like sometimes we forget that, you know, consequences
for our action but then also like I don't know,

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I think about Okay, well, they were in Egypt for
so long, but like they did they forget about God?
Did they you know, did it become just this is
life now?

Speaker 4 (49:35):
You know? I think they felt abandoned. You know, I
would think that that's you know, that they at least
the generations that the initial generations that were captured, probably
felt abandoned.

Speaker 9 (49:46):
Yeah, but the idea of abandonment is that someone has
left you, not.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
You have left them, right.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
But that's what I'm getting at is that I think
that when the Israelites were initially captured and were initially
enslaved by the okay, by the Jip, they felt abandoned.
They felt like their God did not deliver them from something,
that God set them up and left them there for whatever.
So you know, it could be a combination of abandonment, resentment, whatever.

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And it was the following generations that had that full circle,
if you will, of realizing that their father's fathers were
the problem and they're the ones who brought upon Moses.
And you know, in all of these like Moses's generation,
I think were probably were probably significantly more godly than

(50:36):
the previous generations because the previous generations still had resentment.
I mean, the same thing as when they were in
the wilderness for forty years. Right, God told them that
you're going to basically this generation is going to die
out before you return back. And there was a reason
for that because there was resentment, there was suffering, there
was these things that were brought upon themselves. But they

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didn't see it as brought upon themselves. They saw it
as God being the problem instead of them being the problem.
I mean, if you look at verse seventeen, it says
full suffered affliction because of their rebellious ways and their iniquities.
They loathed all food and came near the gates of death.

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He saved them from their distress.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
And that's a great point. I mean, when are we
when are we most intense.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
In our prayer is when when we're suffering.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Pushed to the limit, right. I Mean I was thinking
about this the day, like why can't we pray like
that all the time, But it's it's we don't pray
like that all the time until we're pushed to the limit.
And there's only maybe three times in my life that
I could think of that. I prayed with that kind.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
Of well, because you were pushed to the brink, you
were pushed, you were pushed to the end. And but
the question is who pushed you?

Speaker 3 (52:01):
And God either he does it or he allows it.
Neither way, it's to come back to him, and he
puts circumstances in her life. I don't know if he
did this to twenty twenty or he allowed it, but
it's all for the glory of God. It at one
point or another, it's going to come back to him.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
I saw a funny meme. It was a picture of
God and an angel, right, and this was obviously a hypothetical,
but the angel. The angel said, all right, God, I
put everything you wanted into twenty twenty. And He's like, wait,
twenty twenty, No, I said to put them into the twenties. Yeah. Yeah,

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So all of this should have happened over the course
of ten years, not twelve months. I thought that was
funny anyway, Karen's not aboused, but yeah, you know, God,
because it's true, it's a trying times. And then how
appropriate for this particular concept to be discussed tonight, because

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you know, we are dealing with a lot of things
where people are going to blame God and people are
not going to take the responsibilities that I feel like
have led up to these consequences, you know. I mean
God is God is a forgiving God, but he's aust God,
as I said before, and his love supersedes his need

(53:35):
to punish, right. But so what he'll do is he
may not punish you, but you'll still receive the consequences.
And I feel like twenty twenty is an accumulative consequence
of the last you know, one hundred years in this
country by not being as godly as we should. I mean,
it started in the fifties when we started taking God

(53:55):
out of things. God, you know, how can God be
an act to roll in something that he's not able
to participate him? You know, how can how can you
be a star football player if you're not allowed to
play the game. And I feel like that's what's going
on with God right now, is that he's been pushed
out and so he can't He's not able to be

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the effect of God that he wants to be because
people of their hearts have heartened on him.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
And and another thing I see in this God never
really did leave them. Now, they may have thought that,
but he's right there the whole time. He's just waiting. Yeah,
he's waiting to be called upon, and so he's letting
them do because he lets us have free will. He

(54:45):
will not impede that at all. But he waits. He's
a patient God, and he waits for them to turn their.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
And the one thing that's crazy about this is that,
you know, we're talking about a group of people, yes,
but God is this effective on the individual as well.
You know, it's not just oh, you know, the three
of us are trying as best we can, but it's
not going to it's not going to mean anything because
we're the minority. No, God will well isolate that single

(55:20):
you out and work a mighty work amongst the individuals
just as much as he will the collective.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
Well, let's continue. Almost done.

Speaker 16 (55:31):
Fools suffered affliction because of their rebellious ways and their iniquities.
They loathed all food and came near the gates of death.
He saved them from their distress. He sent his word
and healed them. He rescued them from the pit. Let

(55:52):
them give thanks to the Lord for his faithful love
and his wondrous works for all humanity. Let them offer
sacrifices of thanksgiving, and denounced his works with shouts of joy.
Others went to sea in ships, conducting trade. On the
vast water, they saw the Lord's works, his wondrous works.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
In the deep.

Speaker 16 (56:15):
He spoke and raised a stormy wind that stirred up
the waves of the sea, rising up to the sky,
sinking down to the depths, their courage melting away in anguish.
They reeled and staggered like a drunkard, and all their
skill was useless. Then they cried out to the Lord

(56:36):
in their trouble, and he brought them out of their
distress again. He stilled the storm to a whisper, and
the waves of the sea were hushed. They rejoiced when
the waves grew quiet. Then he guided them to the
harbor they longed for. Let them give thanks to the
Lord for his faithful love and his wondrous works for

(56:58):
all humanity. Let them exalt him in the assembly of
the people, and praise him in the counsel of the elders.
He turns rivers into desert, springs into thirsty ground, and
fruitful land into salty waste land because of the wickedness
of its inhabitants. He turns a desert into a pool,

(57:21):
dry land into springs. He causes the hungry to settle there,
and they establish a city where they can live. They
sow fields and plant vineyards that yield a fruitful harvest.
He blesses them, and they multiply greatly. He does not
let their live stock decrease when they are diminished and

(57:44):
are humbled by cruel oppression and sorrow. He pours contempt
on nobles and makes them wander in a tractless waste land.
But he lifts the needy out of their suffering and
makes their families multiply like flocks. The opright see it
and rejoice, and all injustice shuts its mouth. Let whoever

(58:08):
is wise pay attention to these things and consider the
Lord's act of faithful love.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
So I mean, this is, like I said, this is
as about as steadfast love as it is thanksgiving, because
he is such a graceful, loving god here, and he
just he blesses them after all of that.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Well, you know, and it says here that he pours
contempt on nobles and makes them wonder in a trackless wasteland.
You know, it's like, what does that even mean?

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Well, what do you think.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
I was just gonna say, it's just to me, I
think it's it's it just reminds me of, you know,
for us to be aware of where we stand with
God and our placement in comparison to God, because I
feel like when it talks about nobles, that's what in

(59:08):
my I like in it to those who are like
holier than now, you know, whether it's because of their wealth,
or because of their knowledge, or because of their whatever,
I feel like that it causes them to think that
they're better than right where it says here the needy, right,
people who are needy and suffering, they typically don't have

(59:30):
that mindset or that mentality. And we have to look
at this from a biblical standpoint. So needly and suffering
for the sake of God versus being noble for the
sake of God? Which does he prefer? Does he prefer
somebody who is outspoken and aggressive towards.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Well? I mean I think there's a time and place
for both. He uses both.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
You know, he.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Loves a childlike willingness to want God, and yet he
still can use the bold, yeah, and the courageous. He
needs people, He needs both sides right for his work.
But you know, I see this as no matter what
we go through right now, no matter what is coming,

(01:00:23):
He's going to be there for us and with us.
I mean his forty years in the wilderness wandering and
he was still with them even though they didn't think so,
but he was still there. And when it's all said
and done, what happens here he blesses them.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
Right well in Job twelve, it says here that he
makes nations greats. He makes nations great, then destroys them.
He enlarges nations, then leads them away. He deprives the
world's leaders of reason and makes them wonder in a
trackless wasteland. They grow up around in the darkness without light.

(01:01:04):
He makes them stagger like a drunkard. So this is
referring to people who again I feel like, are you
know when you are drunk with power basically, and you know,
and it could be from any number of things. He's
going to remind you that that's given to you by him,

(01:01:24):
and when it's taken away, what's left. And we need
to remember to humble ourselves and to be grateful and
thankful for the things that we do have.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
And so these people are being pushed to the brink
and they finally decide to ask for forgiveness, and back
and forth they go.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
It's a cycle. Yeah, I mean, yeah, the whole Bible
is about, I mean, the Old Testament especially is about
the cycles of the Israelites, the mini cycles of God's people.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
No, I mean, I've never sacrificed a child, ould er
done some of the things that I read in here,
but well, I mean, but but I've also done some
things that are bad too.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
Sure. I mean, the thing is, it may not have
been sacrificing a child, but there's still equivalents right in there.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
They're still awfully bad. And as a child of God.
So yeah, I mean, I think we could apply this
to our lives.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
You know, well, and you know, and we're supposed to
be God's people, and God wants us to be his
living example. And what kind of example are you setting
when you are living your life the way of the
world as opposed to the way of Christ, you know,
And I feel like that I feel fall victim to
that mentality far too much of Eh, what what doesn't matter? Really,

(01:02:43):
you know, God, God, uh, you know, I'm a Christian,
Yes i am, but I'd rather do that whatever that is.

Speaker 15 (01:02:51):
You know, what version are you using?

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
CSP CSP Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
I only like that one because it's for me.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
It's easiest to you know, understand.

Speaker 9 (01:03:03):
Yeah, no, no, there's if you look in versus twenty
twenty four, twenty eight thirty. I liked how you're said
that this is someone under the ships and their merchants
are they basically went about our daily lives and twenty

(01:03:28):
three Okay, they get back, they get back out there,
they go about their business of trading and whatnot, and
they're on the sea and they yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Others went to sea in ships, conducting trade on the
vast water.

Speaker 9 (01:03:41):
Yeah, And so to me, that's like we went about
our daily lives and stuff. And then what happens when
they get out on the water The waves start kicking up.
And I loved the way that you're that version says
it starting in twenty six.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
Is it rising up to the sky, sinking down into
the depths, their courage melting away in anguish, They reeled
and staggered like a drunkard, keep going, and all their
skill was useless.

Speaker 9 (01:04:15):
So that part really stuck out to me because my
version says they mounted up to the heavens and went
down to the depths and their peril. Their courage melted away,
They reeled and staggered like drunkards, and they were at
their wits end. So like those two comparisons, at least
to me, are too totally different. Thing like being at
your wits end is just kind of like you're fede.

(01:04:38):
You don't really know, you don't really know what else
to do. But this, your CSB says, what that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
My skills are useless.

Speaker 15 (01:04:46):
Useless, That my skills are useless.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
So the things that I depend on have no value.

Speaker 9 (01:04:51):
Yeah, the things that I know work, the things that
I know how to do that I have no control
over what is going on around me.

Speaker 15 (01:05:00):
And that's how these men felt.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
You know, it reminds me of of the Ninovites. What's
his name, Jonah, You know that these guys. He was
in a boat and the seasoned seamen were just like,
I don't know what's going on and I cannot understand.
Are you We are about to capsize if somebody doesn't

(01:05:22):
do something and you're going overboard?

Speaker 9 (01:05:25):
Yeah, but that that really stuck out to me because
it was like, you know, just when we think that
it's going to be business as usual, it's not. A
storm comes up like we've never seen before. And these
are men that this is what I do for a living.
And it says in some versions it says the waves
are going up to the sky and then going down

(01:05:47):
to the depths. You know, if you've ever gone we've
gone deep sea fishing and whale watching, you know when
the waves are kicking up, and I mean those are
we're not even out to sea, out to see we're
just kind of you know, and that's pretty intense, like
imagining what this is like. And again it's just that
idea of you know, we rely so heavily on ourselves

(01:06:12):
for so much all of the time because we know
that we're able to get ourselves through a lot, and
we know that we're able to overcome. And like you
were saying earlier, we only need God when it's really bad.
We only need God when the waves are going up
to the sky and down to the depths. Whereas when

(01:06:33):
it's just missus as usual and it's a normal every day,
it's kind of like, Okay, well, I prayed at breakfast, lunch,
and dinner, and I prayed right before I went to bed,
so I've done my checklist for the day, you know,
because you were talking about earlier.

Speaker 15 (01:06:45):
You know, I don't know that I've.

Speaker 9 (01:06:46):
Ever really prayed like that except for three times in
my life. And it's like, we really have to examine
and think about what is prayer and what is you
know it's supposed to before. It's not just you know,
when I need something, and it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
Just designed for conversation with God. You know.

Speaker 9 (01:07:06):
It's not just when oh, well I have a prayer
request or oh man, you know my sister's really sick,
or you know, blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
It's no, well, you know, it's crazy. Like, think about this.
If you have a person in your life and the
only time they come to you is when they.

Speaker 15 (01:07:18):
Need something, what you do you have a person?

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
That's what I'm saying, is it? How does that make
you feel? It makes you feel annoyed? It's like, okay,
what's next? But God doesn't do that? Yeah, you know, God,
You're feel annoyed.

Speaker 9 (01:07:33):
But that's well, I think one thing that was really
I don't know if you remember experiencing God but we
did Blackabees experiencing God, and it was a really awesome experience.
And there's one part of it where it's like you're
on this spiritual journey and it's about probably about halfway through,
and it's talking about prayer, and it's talking about go

(01:07:56):
for a walk, like no, no, no, don't take yourself,
don't you know nothing, just you and God and just
just talk and just you know, start a conversation or
listen is the other thing. And I think a lot
of times we pray, but we don't listen because we
just think, oh, okay, well I got my part out.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Well yeah, And I will tell you for my life,
it's hard to listen when everything is being distracted, you know.
I mean, we have noise all over the place. When
is it when we hear God is in the quiet times?

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
You know? The hard part of those is that finding
the quiet times in the quiet time? Yeah, Because sometimes
we are so preoccupied with our thoughts and our own
concerns that we don't even focus on what God is
saying to us. We're just more focused on getting out
what we need to say, right, And that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
Like for Jack, he says, his quiet time believe it
or not, would be in the shower. That's when he
actually hears God from time to time. So I mean
that could be in the shower or you know, for me,
sometimes it's driving and I don't have music on. It's
just some driving and not even focusing on like trying
to talk to God. All of a sudden, it just
like like.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
It's you know, I hear something.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Well, you know, like like his presence, yeah, consciously or something.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
But yeah, I remember when I used to Yeah, I
used to work, you know, almost an hour from from home,
and so I would find myself doing that. You know.
It was crazy that, you know, I felt, even though
I was struggling with some of the marital stuff, I
felt closer to God than I had ever felt before
because it was just I mean, you know, it's a

(01:09:38):
daily conversation, you know, and especially putting on you know,
either Christian music or even just putting on a like
a sermon. You know, for us, it's uh ninety nine
point nine casey ib Yeah, that's what it is. Right. Yeah,
they're they're really good, and but it helps you to

(01:09:59):
kind of you know, kitch you'self focused and get yourself
kind of tuned in.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
To Bot radio.

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
Yeah, Bot radio work. But anyways, Yeah, so I think that,
you know, finding time for God is important. I mean,
that's the one thing and that's what it talks about here.
Sometimes God will force you because he will strip away
everything else.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
And then you got to think, like, is this is
this what's happening in twenty twenty? God is trying to
talk to his church because the church.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
Has fond with him. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
Well so yeah, I mean as a whole. I'm not
saying individually, because individually is totally different. I mean you
have your own personal relationship with it.

Speaker 9 (01:10:35):
I think that's what pastorships were saying, Yeah, because it
is like that this is kind of that awakening, this moment, you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Know, but to kind of really take it up.

Speaker 9 (01:10:45):
Importance of what it is, the gift that we have
and the gift that is available to everyone, but only
but not if they don't know you know.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
Yeah. Well, and I think though that you know, trying
to not get too political about things, but.

Speaker 15 (01:11:00):
Never on this show.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
Whatever anyway, but that you know, God is starving for
America to wake up. I think God is this country
was founded on biblical principles and because of that, I
think that God poured his love upon this nation and
shrouded us from or protected us, put that hedge of

(01:11:29):
protection around us, you know, for a very long time,
and allowed this great idea, this god based, god fearing
idea to thrive. And then just like the Israelites, we
turned away and what happened? They ended up wandering in
the wilderness for forty years. They ended up, you know,
on the brink of death. It says here that you know,

(01:11:53):
having everything stripped away.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
And right now we're on the tee to tatter of
one way or the other. And so you know, I
think God is shaken, the shaking it up so as
people will, they're remnant.

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
But the question is is that is He going to
take us to the brink of death or you know,
on the nation level, or is He going to you know,
turn those who look at what who look into pillars
of salt? You know what I mean? Like, where are
we on that timeline? Are we?

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
Does that make sense? Because I feel like this, this
this nation specifically, we have a lot of influence on
the rest of the world.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Well, that's just it. How America goes, the world goes,
it really does. I don't know why, But I you
could make the argument because God has blessed this nation
and that is why. So America is the strongest or
has been the strongest, and now you know, the China
or whoever else is trying to be that God is

(01:12:57):
shaking it up. I still believe that God has the
use for her, for America for a little while, so,
you know, I pray that's the case, but we'll see.
I think His people are waking up. I think there
is a remnant. I think that there is a remnant.
There is praying hard for this to turn around.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
And yet do you think but do you think that
that means there's going that the you know, his his uh.
I don't know how to word this right. Do you
think that that whether whichever president ends up being inaugurated
on the twentieth of January, do you think that that

(01:13:41):
will matter?

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Well, if you're asking me, I think it it will.
But I think no matter what happens, God's people still
needs to have faith in God. Yeah, okay, because especially
if it goes some way, but either way, you gotta
have faith in You got to keep it up because
you got to be the remnant. You gotta be prayerful
and I'm talking to myself too.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
Yeah, you know, well and it but it's hard. It's
hard to do that when you don't have and I
think examples around you. Yeah, you know, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Think in these bigger churches is where it's more difficult to.

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
Yeah, well, I'm thinking those two exactly. I mean, let's
let's take a look at some of these bigger churches
and their lack of God or their lack of accountability.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
I mean, now, don't get me wrong, there are some
big churches that go to small groups and that that's powerful, sure,
but there's other.

Speaker 4 (01:14:39):
But you look at some of these churches, I mean
to think of of you know, who they put in
charge and the lack of scrutiny or the lack of
accountability that they don't have, right, yeah, right, or yeah,
their shepherds are corrupt or their shepherds are you know,
wolves in sheep's clothing, or whatever however you want to
describe them. I mean, you look at some of these

(01:14:59):
churches that you know, they're huge churches, and you know,
my big question is that when you it's like the
path to heaven, right, sorry, the path to heaven, right,
the path to Heaven is is it wide? And fully
it's narrow, right, And I feel like that that is

(01:15:21):
kind of a description of the church is narrow. And
when you are a part of a church that is
a gigantic multitude, you know, thousands upon thousands of members,
there's nothing wrong with that, but you need to really
scrutinize and make sure that there is there that there's
a reason for that, a godly reason for that. And

(01:15:42):
it's not because the pastor is catering to the desires
of the people, but to the desires of God, right,
you know, And you look at some of like the
Bethel Churches and some of these other groups that say
it than claimants and these prosperity guys that that are
just all about feeling the feels of it all. You know,

(01:16:03):
I feel like you're you're selling God short when you
do that. But it's catering to the masses because it's
what they want to hear, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
The masses. Yeah, So you know, I think that is Uh,
he's dividing the church in a way that I guess
said I call it the remnant, like those that are
really serious about God and those who are just casual Christians.
Because the casual Christians, when it's going to get really hard,
that they will fall away. And then you got to

(01:16:33):
ask yourself, where are you a Christian?

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
Well that's what that That's how you'll know though, because
you will find yourself drifting away from God. Because I
think it is in a Revelation where it talks about
hill he will he says that fall away will happen. Yeah,
what is it about the chaff and the grain or
whatever the like? It all looks the same until it's
cast on into the air and then and that.

Speaker 15 (01:16:58):
Casting Jesus said that the gospel.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
Yeah, but I just remember in Revelation is talking about
how Pete there will be so many people who will
make the claim but will turn out to be their
hearts will be hardened and they will turn away. Yeah. Yeah, sorry,
I'm not good at the memorization, so I get the
I have a lot of just it's there. Yeah. Well,

(01:17:22):
so any all this to say, thanks, yes, And and
if you're listening to this and you haven't had turkey
dinner yet, someone knocks on your door, don't answer. So
we had to get together tonight at my cousin's house
and we literally just sat down to eat and there's

(01:17:44):
a knock on the door. I look over and I'm like,
here it comes. It was like somebody trying to sell
a bistle or something.

Speaker 9 (01:17:52):
But there was probably like five cars in front of
her house because the three of them are hurt.

Speaker 15 (01:18:00):
Yeah they have they have two or three vehicles.

Speaker 9 (01:18:02):
And then her our car, and then her mom came
and you know, so it was like that's the first
thing that popped in with that is like, oh gosh,
there's too many cars out front.

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
But but anyways, it just it was so funny because
it was literally we sat down, we just finished praying,
we got our food, we sat down and there's a
ding dong here here we go where German the Gustapo
or whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Let's take I guess we'll take a break and come
back with some news.

Speaker 4 (01:18:33):
Sure like to do that?

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I've been hearing a word a lot as I pay
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living in unprecedented times, unprecedented voter turnout, unprecedented voter fraud.
We have an unprecedented surge in the virus, even as
some politicians react with unprecedented restrictions. Hi, this is Chips

(01:26:30):
Ross and I serve the one and only Jesus Christ
in Fresno, California. So we have this unprecedented use of
the word unprecedented. Oh no, not really, but for most
people this will cause them to be fearful. This is
all new, It's never before happened. So how do I
know what I'm supposed to do? And then after fear

(01:26:50):
is a search for authority, truth, security.

Speaker 6 (01:26:53):
I don't know what to do.

Speaker 22 (01:26:54):
I'm fearful, So someone please tell me what am I
supposed to do? Help me navigate this un moment. To
be honest, I'm describing myself. For parts of this year,
I wasn't sure what I was supposed to do as
a father, as a pastor. I looked around at what
other families and other churches were doing. I read a
lot on the Internet, and finally God interrupted mind descent

(01:27:16):
into panic. He stopped me in my tracks to help
me think about him. And you know what the Bible says.
There is nothing new under the sun. There's no temptation
that you are facing except what is common or precedented
to people. Jesus was tempted in every way as you are,
and yet without sin. So Jesus, in other words, set

(01:27:38):
the precedent for how you are to live. What this
year has done is simply revealed your inner character, for
better or for worse. When your comforts and essentials are removed,
what are you left with. The only certain thing in
this year is the same only certain thing in all
the years before that is the faithfulness of the creator God,

(01:27:59):
and the salvation and found in his son, Jesus Christ.
Those who trust in Jesus never need to fear.

Speaker 4 (01:28:05):
He is our precedent.

Speaker 22 (01:28:08):
Fix your eyes on him and do what he has
called you to do.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Welcome back to the show. This is let's get jacked
up on fringe radio network.

Speaker 15 (01:28:26):
What happened to you? Where have you been?

Speaker 17 (01:28:30):
Bill Gates here? Remember to take the vaccine when it
comes out in mid December. You must take it to
get on a plane to have any kind of life.
So it's not going to be mandatory, but pretty much

(01:28:55):
your life is going to be h double hockey fit
if you don't. Okay the back okay here this Thanksgiving
and December, you're going.

Speaker 18 (01:29:11):
To have to take.

Speaker 4 (01:29:13):
The additional quote from the governor says that it turns
out the biggest day of drinking is Wednesday before Thanksgiving.
That's what he said.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
You guys, come up or you're Thursday for more?

Speaker 20 (01:29:24):
Well, hev money alien.

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You can't believe.

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Did you letlie?

Speaker 18 (01:29:33):
Well?

Speaker 20 (01:29:33):
I just want to say have you thanks Giving to
your Hilians. See you all real soon with my other
friends who are aliens.

Speaker 18 (01:29:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
Back to the show.

Speaker 13 (01:29:46):
You're your hosts, Tim, Bobby and Karen, and welcome back
to that skin God Thanksgiving Style.

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
Thanksgiving, Happy Thanksgiving, your face. We are, we are a
little what was that slappy? Oh it's somebody that a door.

Speaker 4 (01:30:20):
It's two o'clock in the morning where we are, so
I'm kidding it's not that but him. But still, uh,
it's been a long day. We're all tired, so we're
getting a little punch.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
Drunk without being drunk, yea, or punchy or punching. All right,
so let's do this, Let's do some Bobby's Crazy Oh yeah,
the news heads Bobby's Crazy News, and now it's time.

Speaker 15 (01:30:42):
For Bobby's Crazy News.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
Bobby's Crazy News.

Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
I was waiting for Karen's Bobby brought to you by Thanksgiving. Hey, okay,
all right, So you know, guys, it's fun to to,
you know, celebrate the good times, but it's also sometimes
it's it's always nice to just know that some people,
just you think you got it bad, there's somebody out

(01:31:14):
there that might have it worse, So be thankful. A
man in possession of methan Federline is critically injured Thursday
after falling while racing on his motorcycle, during which he
accidentally shot himself and got hit by a car.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
What what?

Speaker 4 (01:31:30):
Yeah? Officers and medical crews responded to the twelve Street
in Kansas It's in Kansas City. What do you do?
Car okay in reference to a car crash, and transported
the man to area hospital, where he with critical but
non life threatening injuries. Which I'm not sure how that works.

(01:31:52):
So is, while racing, the suspect lost control of his
bike and wrecked. During the accident, a weapon in his
waistband discharged, striking him in the hip, and he was
also struck by another vehicle that fled the scene. He
was transported to an aerial hospital in critical but non
life threatening condition.

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
What was that shot himself?

Speaker 19 (01:32:15):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:32:16):
Boy, Tim, he really got to uh you know, let
that's better.

Speaker 13 (01:32:22):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
It says here that a records check revealed that he
was in fact the felon and had a large bag
of suspected methamphetamines which was located inside the motorcycle. So
just remember, y'all's you might have it bad, but you know,
maybe not as bad as this guy. Ah, next up,

(01:32:44):
uh utah. I don't know if you guys saw this.
But did you maybe did you hear about that monolith?
It was found deep in the deserts of Utah.

Speaker 15 (01:32:53):
I don't know what anolith is.

Speaker 4 (01:32:55):
This is let me show you a picture of it.

Speaker 15 (01:32:57):
Oh, yeah, I do know what you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:32:59):
This is just so basically, it's this rectangular, rectangular shape
found in the middle of the It's a perfect rectangular
but it's made out of Yeah, it's made out of
steel of some sort. It says here these guys that
were counting sheep, No, they were counting goats. Goats. Yeah.
It started as routine wildlife assistance took an extraterrestrial turn

(01:33:21):
for Utah's Department of Public Safety officers when they stumbled
upon a mysterious monolith in the middle of Rule Utah.
Thank you. One of the biologists spotted it and he
just happened to fly directly overhead in a helicopter and
he was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, turn around, turn around,
And I was like what And he was like, there's

(01:33:42):
this thing back there. We gotta go look at it.
These are actual quotes, by the way, thank you. And
there it was in the middle of a red rock.
It was a shiny silver metal monolith sticking out of
the ground. It's about ten to twelve feet high. It
doesn't look like it's some just randomly dropped thing because
of its perfect perpendicular shape. It's you know, it's it's

(01:34:05):
basically it's like perfectly level in the ground. Yeah, I mean,
it looks like something from space. It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:34:11):
So what's in it?

Speaker 4 (01:34:12):
Nobody knows. It's it's so funny because there was a release.
They released a statement that said, uh, it is illegal
to install structures or art without authorization on public lands,
no matter what planet they're from. Oh, come on, they
were being it was a little tongue in cheeking. But yeah,
but that was still that is that is what the

(01:34:35):
DPS had. That was in their official statement. But again
it was it was still kind of funny.

Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
Uh so I think it's tongue in chee. We actually
don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:34:43):
We don't know.

Speaker 15 (01:34:44):
It's a warning.

Speaker 4 (01:34:47):
As of Monday, the Bureau of Land Management will be
deciding whether there's going to be more investigation in court. Yes.
And lastly, California pass her temporary turns his chapel into
a strip club. Yes, just so that he could be

(01:35:07):
deemed essential you know, this is the video I have?
This is the guy? Is there really a video of it?
I haven't seen the video.

Speaker 15 (01:35:15):
Yeah, he takes his tie off.

Speaker 4 (01:35:18):
Really, here's the thing that was all he was wearing.
Oh it says since time of various shut shut downs,
stay at home orders, et cetera. Wait, no, he did,
he had. He's fully suited. He just took his tie
off in a very.

Speaker 15 (01:35:31):
You know, there's some hit thrusting.

Speaker 4 (01:35:34):
Yeah, if you will, yes, I will say.

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
It's a clever move.

Speaker 4 (01:35:40):
Let's watch it. Oh geez, it's an hour and it's
an hour long. But this is just the beginning. So
watch We're going to see him coming on, Watch him go,
watch him go. This is he's now doing the strip club,
lifting the hips, taking the tie off. Uh huh. There's
the old ladies in the front. Are so excited. Here
they go and he's Oh my goodnessho is the Elvis

(01:36:02):
Presley And he's trying to get people involved. Look at
they're all up and cheering and stuff. How silly is this?
What church?

Speaker 15 (01:36:08):
Is this social disc No?

Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
There is, well, I mean they're excited.

Speaker 4 (01:36:16):
Look at somebody splashing. Did you see that guy was
throwing dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:36:20):
This is.

Speaker 3 (01:36:22):
Offering. Yeah, right, So maybe this is what we were
talking about earlier. You know, God might be trying to
tell us something.

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
Oh my gosh, Okay, So this happened in Uh let's see,
it's McCoy. The guy's name is Pastor McCoy was inspired
by governor by Governor Mike Huckabee, who decided to take
a chance and open his church as a you know,
playing around as a strip club.

Speaker 17 (01:36:50):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:36:52):
It says here that after a few good laughs, McCoy's
message focused on increasing persecution, the increased persecution churches they're facing,
the pandemic, shutdown, and the tyrannical rule. By embracing this
being embraced by so many people on both sides of
the aisle. So it was you know, I mean, the

(01:37:12):
thing is, you saw the video. It's like maybe his
message might have been good, but the idea like that's
not the mess, that's not the message that God wants
to hear. Like awkward, it doesn't it doesn't serve its
I get what he was trying to do, but that
is not it for the people on the outside looking in.

(01:37:34):
You're not giving the right message.

Speaker 9 (01:37:36):
See, I feel the opposite is what for believers and
for us on that So looking in yes, I can
see that, but I feel like the opposite would be
thought of from unbelievers, like yeah, wow, that's cool.

Speaker 4 (01:37:54):
Oh okay, yeah maybe, but I personally see if it
more of a bunch of hypocrites. Yeah maybe, but that's
just the way. But that's the difference in our mindset.

Speaker 9 (01:38:08):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:38:08):
I just find that most people who aren't Christians hate Christians. Yeah,
and so they'll find any reason to vilify the Christian
for the sake of their own stupid whatever it is
that they are trying to you know, whatever it is.
But yeah, so I'm not bitter, just realistic. Yeah, no,

(01:38:28):
just not even better, just realistic. Just you know, I
think it's I'm really tired of people who don't know
the faith that they try to reason themselves into why
believing in God is stupid or idiotic or for simple
minded folk or whatever it might be. It's like, I

(01:38:49):
would understand more from you, I would reason with you
more about that and want to have a conversation with
you about that if you knew what you were talking about.

Speaker 9 (01:38:59):
Do you know many people a little better in black
lives matter? How do you mean that are involved or
a part of the Black Lives Matter movement.

Speaker 4 (01:39:07):
I know a couple of people.

Speaker 9 (01:39:08):
Yes, okay, So do you feel like you know all
there is to know about the movement? Do you know
a couple of people?

Speaker 4 (01:39:15):
I don't know. No, I don't know all there is
to know about it, But I do know enough about
it to be able to make a decision because I've
read their mission statement and I understand what they are.
I know who the founder is and what they stand for.
So yeah, I think I know enough to have a
conversation about it.

Speaker 9 (01:39:33):
So you don't think that the person or the people
that you're talking about would feel the same way.

Speaker 4 (01:39:39):
Maybe I don't know. It doesn't change the fact though,
that the difference is. I guess it's the ideology behind it.
You know, for me, there's a difference between Black Lives
Matter versus Christianity.

Speaker 9 (01:39:58):
Well, it's something that is followed maybe you know, you
see it that way because this is your faith, this
is something that you feel and believe strongly, and just
like those people who are involved in Black Lives Matter,
I would believe.

Speaker 4 (01:40:13):
I would compare Christianity more to like those who are green,
you know, like you know what I mean, like, because
I picture those who are like the super recycled people,
global warming and all that stuff is a religion equal
to any other religion because they believe in something that
is greater than them. But the difference is is that

(01:40:35):
they feel that their impact is their involvement is what
is the change, as opposed to God's involvement is what
is the change.

Speaker 9 (01:40:46):
I guess what I'm trying to say is that you
get upset when people rope you into the hypocrisy that
they've seen or that you know this.

Speaker 15 (01:40:55):
That whatever existly, Yet you do that with groups as well.

Speaker 4 (01:41:02):
Yeah, I guess I could say.

Speaker 9 (01:41:03):
Like you know what I mean, like like again, it's
it's just like what I've been saying is like it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (01:41:10):
So I'm an idiot. Basically, what you're saying is that no, no, no,
I find out. Are you sure? Because I feel like
you've challenged everything I've said You've challenged with But that's
exactly what you do.

Speaker 9 (01:41:21):
It's more of I find it comical that us as
humans are so.

Speaker 15 (01:41:30):
Appalled or bothered by.

Speaker 9 (01:41:32):
Things and unless it's in our favor, or unless it's
something that we believe strongly about yet can't understand why
others would feel would not feel strongly about it, or
would have such hatred for it, and you know, and
it's just kind of like oh my gosh, like so, okay,
I'll give you an example.

Speaker 15 (01:41:50):
Okay, I was in a department store. Well it was
in a store and I was shopping.

Speaker 9 (01:41:56):
And it's funny because the workers and it's there's it's
like racks upon racks upon raxiclothes. And when you go
into a clothing store and there's racks upon raxic clothes
and the clothes are really tightly wound, like tightly put
on the rack. What's what do you do in order
to see each one? You split it, right, so like
you push to the side and then you start like

(01:42:16):
going through one, you know. Okay, So the worker, one
of the workers was like, mind you, I'm like doing
the split it and slowly go through and stuff. And
one of the workers is like, I don't understand why
people have to like split, like why they have to
like move all these around and stuff, and like I

(01:42:38):
don't understand why they would need to like open it
up just to look at it, like you can see
it from the side. Blah blah, blah, And I was like,
so this, this worker is really upset about this. First
of all, I'm doing exactly what it is that they're saying,
why do people do this? No, no, no, they're talking
to each other. No, no mind of me even being there,

(01:43:01):
because they are like one rack down, but I can
hear them talking. And I felt like saying, when you
go to the department store and you want to look
at something on the rack.

Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
What do you do?

Speaker 15 (01:43:11):
You split it and thumb through it, right, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:43:16):
So it was one of those things where I was
just like, you can't understand an action from someone else
because you have to clean up after that. Because yet,
when you go to the store, you do the same
exact thing, but it doesn't bother you then because you
don't have to clean up after it. Yeah, and so
that's kind of like what I like in it too,
is that you're doing the same thing, only it's a

(01:43:38):
different subject. So it doesn't matter because yeah, I'm doing I.

Speaker 4 (01:43:42):
Mean, but it also has to do with the core
of that subject, right, So you got to look at
the core of the subject. So like people will interpret
Christianity's core as evil because it forces people to look
at themselves in the mirror. It holds a mirror up
to them and forces them to look at them ls
for who they truly are. And most people don't.

Speaker 15 (01:44:03):
Like that, but according to them, in your opinion, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:44:07):
No, that's and that That's what I'm getting at is
that there they find it to be evil because of
whatever reason. But they don't see God. They don't see
Christ as who he truly is, right, they see Christ
through their own perceived lens. Whereas movements like Black Lives
Matter or some of these some of these other movements, right,

(01:44:30):
what are what is their purpose? Is their purpose for
greater good? I think? But if you look at their
but if you look at their because I saw what
you're about to do, you're about to say in your opinion, right, okay,
because you know, if you if you look at the
the heritage of some of these organizations, some of these

(01:44:50):
groups of people, it's not from a place of good.
It's sold as a place of good. But once you
scratch that surface, you can see that it's just skin deep.
It's you know, it's it's basically it's it's like it's
like painting. I don't know, it's like having a broken

(01:45:11):
down pile of crap for a car, putting a brand
new paint job on it, and then trying to sell
it as brand new. It's like it at first glance, cool,
it looks new, but then once you sitting it, once
you get kind of the feel for it, you realize
that it's they're not selling you the truth.

Speaker 3 (01:45:29):
Right, Have you guys heard of? That kind of reminds
me of a have you guys heard of? Jeff Allen?
A Christian comedian. So he talks about being he used
to be an atheist, and and well here, I'll just
play it. I got a clip ready, all right?

Speaker 23 (01:45:45):
He was doing comedy for one hundred bucks a week.
The guy was worth I don't know, four or five
six million dollars sold, His business made millions of dollars.
Just wanted to go on the road and do comedy.
Was fifty some years old. Wasn't a very good comic,
but he didn't have to be. I mean, he had
all the money you ever needed. He's the only guy
that we ever worked with that pulled into the jobs
with a four fifty sel Mercedes. I'm coming in on

(01:46:07):
the greyhound. Yeah, I'm your headliner for the week. I
make the big money, all right, But God knows his
own man, and he knew I wouldn't talk to this man.
I was a shallow, vacuous, empty vessel, I really was.
And I didn't have anything to talk to this man
about until I found out because of his wealth, he
had access to some of the nicest golf courses in America.

(01:46:29):
He was actually a member of Merefield Village here, and
that's all I needed to hear. He was my new
best friend. What I didn't know about him was he
was a fundamentalist Christian and I didn't know that. And
we're sitting on the fairway one day just talking and
we're talking about life, We're talking about this, we're talking
about that, and then he brings up the Bible and
I said, ah, don't give me the Bible. I don't
want to hear the Bible. And he says, what do

(01:46:50):
you mean And I said, I'm an atheist. I don't
believe in that garbage. And he says, well, what is
it about the Bible? You don't think it's true? And
I said, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:46:56):
I never read it.

Speaker 23 (01:46:57):
And he said, well, you're not an atheist, you're a moron.
And I have to tell you, I would to hit him,
except that I would have lost access to Merefield Village
and I wasn't going to do that. And I asked
him to explain himself, and he said, well, to be

(01:47:19):
honest with you, a true atheist is not only a
biblical scholar, but is scholarly in all the face of
the earth, and after a long intellectual journey, has come
to the conclusion that there is no God of the universe. You,
on the other hand, want to circumvent the entire intellectual
process and just come to the conclusion that there's no God.
That's lazy and moronic. I didn't know what to say.

Speaker 4 (01:47:40):
I love. My favorite thing to do is listen for
the laughs in the background, because there's always that one
person who either is like the you know, the hooter,
you know, or that one guy who's like, yes, it
was going back to the community. It is true, Yeah,

(01:48:03):
I mean, but how many people are that like that
just want to circumvent the whole thing and just I'm
an atheist because that's the easy thing to say, and
because it's especially in some places like Cali, Uh, it's
the safest thing to say, you know, to to claim
no faith, because then you're not going to be challenged
in any way. Yeah, I mean I got I got
friends who are very much like that, who you could

(01:48:26):
tell or were at one point very close to seeing
who God is. But then it's almost like they had
to shake it off and tighten their shirt and down
and be like, I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:48:37):
Oh yeah, very clever.

Speaker 4 (01:48:39):
I'm an intellectual, therefore, I'm a scientist. I believe in science,
not funny stuff like faith. Like okay, but.

Speaker 3 (01:48:54):
Jeff, what were you going to say?

Speaker 4 (01:49:00):
Are you going to say? What are you going to say?
You went like this, You went.

Speaker 15 (01:49:05):
You think that I'm out to get you and I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:49:06):
I'm not going to say anything. Just go spit it out,
go for it. This is see what happens. I say
my mind, I speak my piece about it, and she's like, nope,
I don't want to say anything.

Speaker 9 (01:49:17):
Well, I I don't want to say anything. Is I
don't want you to feel like I am attacking you.
I'm trying to break down everything that you're saying to Okay,
this is what it sounds like, but is that really
how you feel? That's really how you feel?

Speaker 15 (01:49:30):
Awesome?

Speaker 4 (01:49:31):
But then give me an example person.

Speaker 15 (01:49:34):
But if it's not how you feel, then it should
be clarified.

Speaker 4 (01:49:38):
What do you mean, explain yourself to tell me what
are you talking about? What example?

Speaker 9 (01:49:43):
No, the first thing that comes to mind is is
that you know Jesus saying they're gonna hate you because
they hated me first, you know. And I think that
we too often get our feelings hurt by the things
that are said, but we need to remember that they're
not objecting us, they're rejecting crest.

Speaker 22 (01:49:59):
Ye.

Speaker 4 (01:50:00):
Well no, and I don't disagree with that. But one
thing that it to me, I feel like it what
bothers me is it's one it's people that I care
about that I know are better than that that are
taking the easy way out, or relying on other people's examples,
or relying on a skewed sense of what Christ is

(01:50:20):
because of a religion they picked right, or a sect
of the religion they picked to be the all deciding factor.
When it's it's you know, so much of it is wrong.

Speaker 9 (01:50:32):
You know, but that is that's their life experience. And
you can't just say, you know, the way you think
about life itself is wrong because that's how you were raised,
you were raised wrong, you know, or you're you're you're taking,
you're invalidating what it is that all they know. Yeah,

(01:50:52):
but you're saying everything that you know is bull crap
because I know different, and it's like, okay, but this
is all I've ever known, and this is all I've
ever experienced, and you know, okay, cool, thanks. Well, you know,
like you're not giving, you're you're trying to take away
and strip down but not giving them anything in return. Okay,

(01:51:14):
you know, and and so but I think another but
the hard part.

Speaker 4 (01:51:17):
Though, is that you know, and I think you know
who I'm talking about the you know, a couple of
people in our lives, but they don't want they don't want,
so I could strip them down, but they don't want
to put on what I have to offer them.

Speaker 9 (01:51:31):
Yes, yeah, I think what you're saying is that you
could break it down in ten different ways, but they're
still not going to accept it because they've never read
the Bible and they don't ever plan on it.

Speaker 4 (01:51:42):
Or they've read the Bible, but they've read the you know,
they they're reading you know, a Watchtower or well.

Speaker 15 (01:51:50):
Yeah, no, I know.

Speaker 9 (01:51:50):
And but the other thing too, though and I think
that this is one thing that just miffs you more
than anything is that they will have an intellectual argument
for you and you have a faith argument, and that
is difficult to combat with because theirs is just kind
of to them fact based. Yeah, well there's this fact
based in the Bible, which they already is credited by.

Speaker 4 (01:52:13):
Them, but in their theory of science exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:52:17):
So it's just kind of like, okay, So you kind
of feel backed into a corner at times because a
lot of times in our conversation it's just like literally
we've had to just say that's where faith steps in, yeah,
because it's always well what about this and how about that?

Speaker 15 (01:52:37):
And how you eat a bubble?

Speaker 9 (01:52:38):
And it's like, well, I have to have faith that
this is true, and the Bible says that if it's
not the we're the worst to be pitied because we've
put our faith in a lie.

Speaker 15 (01:52:48):
But if it is true, joke's on you, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:52:53):
Yeah. But the the problem with that again is that
it's it's difficult when it's the people that you care
most about, you know what I mean, and that they're
the most uh hardened.

Speaker 3 (01:53:04):
Yeah. Let me ask you though, like what age, what
age were you when you got saved? You're like, what
a twenty twenty? Okay, see, I was eight. So I
think what happens is sometimes is say, for me, I
don't really remember a time where I.

Speaker 4 (01:53:18):
Didn't have faith.

Speaker 3 (01:53:19):
I mean obviously for those seven eight years, but okay,
so I had a faith, but I was all brought
into church. You know, Bobby, you know a little different,
but basically you were still young. So I think what
happens is we forget or we don't know what it's
like not to have faith.

Speaker 15 (01:53:38):
So and for most of your life, I mean, these people, and.

Speaker 3 (01:53:42):
So it's hard to talk to those people. That's when
we really need to rely on the Holy Spirit because
we need that help to talk to them in a
way they we can relate to them and they can
relate to what we're saying, yeah, yeah, I remember, or
that just that we need.

Speaker 9 (01:53:58):
To give them that grace of the fact that their
life experiences are different than ours, so they've had to
go through things without faith. Can you imagine some of
the things, the hardest times of your life that you've
gone through and have.

Speaker 3 (01:54:13):
Jesus, that's hard to imagine.

Speaker 9 (01:54:14):
Can you imagine going through those things without faith, without hope,
without anything. Don't you think you'd be a little bitter
at a God that would allow these things to happen
or that, you know?

Speaker 15 (01:54:25):
So why I believe that God?

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:54:27):
So it's like we.

Speaker 9 (01:54:30):
And we forget them to be more open to the
idea of God when all they know about God is
is that he's done all these things.

Speaker 4 (01:54:37):
Well and yeah, but then but it's it's those classic
things of you know, well, why would your God allow cancer?
And why would your God allow death? And why would
your God allow suffering?

Speaker 3 (01:54:46):
And they don't understand like we understand?

Speaker 4 (01:54:50):
But do we?

Speaker 3 (01:54:51):
Well, I would say we understand a little bit more.

Speaker 4 (01:54:54):
We understand the idea of of consequent versus. You know,
there's consequence and and you know, God says that that
you will cause things in your life that will not
affect you, but will affect your children's children's children and
so forth, you know, And so that that's the that's

(01:55:16):
the part that people. How is that fair? How is
that fair that I am suffering because of my great grandfather?
But that's the way, that's that's that's the reality of it,
you know, I mean, that's the reality of the fall
of man. Is the It's this concept of we are
constantly paying for the price of being human, and sometimes

(01:55:39):
I have to pay the price of having you know,
the bloodline that I have, it's it's tainted, it's it's.

Speaker 3 (01:55:45):
By the way though, I mean, I think a lot
of Christians don't know this, but you can pray to
ask for forgiveness for those generations and break those break
this in those bloodlines and whatever sins that occurred.

Speaker 4 (01:55:58):
You know, and that it will. And to clarify though,
that does not excuse the behavior or you know, you
can't pray someone into heaven.

Speaker 3 (01:56:07):
Well no, I'm not saying that at all, but I
know I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:56:09):
Just I'm trying to clarify that that's not the intent.
The intent, though, is to break the chain, break the new,
so you have a new Yeah. Yeah, anyways, that is
a different topics and yeah, that's a little bit on
the you know, something to discuss one or just another

(01:56:34):
topic that we can discuss later. But you know, the
core of it is this is that you are right,
I do need to be more compassionate. But it's hard
when I feel like a broken record and I feel
like I assume you meaning for the same person or people. Yeah, yeah,
I'm talking about for several several years. You know, it's
the same thing. And it's tough though, because they've been

(01:56:55):
a part of my life when I have been a
Christian but have been far from God.

Speaker 3 (01:57:00):
You know, you could send them this Jeff Allen clip.

Speaker 4 (01:57:02):
And so, but that doesn't matter though, because they because
they've experienced me as a claiming Christian participating in very
non Christian things, they think that, oh, you're just a
hypocrite like all the rest of them, you know. And
that's the difficult That was where I made the mistake.
And you know, let things just get in the way.

Speaker 9 (01:57:21):
You you view it like that, But I don't know
that that has ever been thrown in your face. It's
never it's never been thrown in your face. Personally. You
feel attacked because they attack Christianity as a whole.

Speaker 17 (01:57:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:57:38):
And and honestly, a lot of it is self blame though, yeah,
because because I.

Speaker 9 (01:57:43):
Know that they've ever really been like don't you remember, No,
don't you remember you used to do this?

Speaker 4 (01:57:48):
No, But but it's it's the blanket statements of all
Christians are hypocrites.

Speaker 15 (01:57:52):
Yeah, exactly right.

Speaker 4 (01:57:53):
So, and and because that that is of course I do,
because I am I am guilty of that, right.

Speaker 15 (01:58:00):
But again that's that is God using that, yeah to
call you out.

Speaker 3 (01:58:06):
Well, didn't you say, I remember you're saying to me
before even on the show, saying, well.

Speaker 4 (01:58:11):
You can use that yeah, well yeah, you're you're right.
And the problem is is that when you do use that,
you have to be prepared for the consequences of that. Yeah,
you know.

Speaker 15 (01:58:20):
And he chooses to use it to make him better instead,
though no, not bitter.

Speaker 3 (01:58:26):
Yes, there's a different Well, I say, look, God loves
me in spite of what I do and this and that, right,
and so that's what you're saying. You could use that
in a way to maybe.

Speaker 15 (01:58:36):
But then the argument could be made was the difference between.

Speaker 13 (01:58:39):
You and me.

Speaker 3 (01:58:42):
Well, I'm forgiven.

Speaker 9 (01:58:44):
I'm forgiven and get to keep doing all those things
that you get to do, only I get to have
a cool name with.

Speaker 4 (01:58:49):
It, you know. So anyways, it's it's difficult. I mean, yeah,
let's uh, let's just go ahead, and you know, round
the round. The basis on this Bob means to learn
to shut his mouth.

Speaker 15 (01:59:02):
And just again, I'm never ever anything.

Speaker 4 (01:59:07):
I'm totally kidding. I am saying that for the sake
of getting that reaction out of it.

Speaker 15 (01:59:13):
It's just I want you to.

Speaker 4 (01:59:16):
Yea.

Speaker 9 (01:59:19):
Oftentimes he uses this as an opportunity just to kind
of to get that thirdective of just kind of like,
you know again, I'm going to say it again. I'm
going to say it again. I'm going to say it
again because I want you to hear like that, you know,
And I don't know if it's God telling me, hey,
keep pushing, keep pushing, or if it's me, you know,
being well.

Speaker 4 (01:59:39):
You know accountability part because I am I am a
very I mean, the two of you know for a
fact nothing Yeah, I mean I am, I am just
a matter of fact, I'm Bob Doll. But yeah, I
mean it's like it's like I know what I know,
what is uh what I believe and until you can

(02:00:02):
prove to me otherwise, which is difficult because that's essentially
what I'm saying about the other person prove to me otherwise, right,
And so the hard part is putting in the work
to show the proof. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:00:15):
Yeah, but I feel like people oftentimes feel like they
have proven otherwise, or that science has proven otherwise, or
that this is you know, and again that's at times
is not an argument that we're ready to get into
because we don't know. Oftentimes it's because we're relying on ourself,

(02:00:38):
not ratling on the Holy Spirit, because instead it's like
we feel like we have to defend ourselves. But again,
Jesus said, they hated me first. They're gonna hate you,
and they're gonna want to disprove you, just like they
wanted to disprove me.

Speaker 4 (02:00:52):
And I didn't, you know, I just well, you know.
And the one thing though is that you also have
to remember in the Bible where it says that you know, people,
I will cause brother to what hate, brother mother to hate, and.

Speaker 3 (02:01:11):
See that starting now, I will just flip tables.

Speaker 4 (02:01:16):
No, no, oh, that okay. So that that's something though
that kills me, is when you know, the whole BLM
thing was going on and people are saying, well, it's
justified anger. Look at Jesus did it Like Jesus did
that in his own house. Jesus did that because people
were violating his father's house. They were not going in.
He did not go into a target and steal a

(02:01:38):
bunch of shoes, you know what I mean. He did
it to right the wrong of injustice in the sense
of at the godly level.

Speaker 3 (02:01:46):
It wasn't social.

Speaker 4 (02:01:47):
Justice, it was not.

Speaker 3 (02:01:49):
AnyWho. I guess we'll wrap this up with a prayer.

Speaker 4 (02:01:53):
Sure were good.

Speaker 3 (02:02:01):
Dear Lord, thank you for that we could get together
in this thanksgiving and give you thanks for all you've done.
I mean, you sent your son Jesus die on the
cross for us, and all we have to do is
believe in him, that he is a son of God,
that he did die in a cross and rose again,

(02:02:21):
and he is alive today, and he shed his blood
for our sins. And so we thank you for that
free gift that is our choice to take. We choose
to take it. We have eternal life with Jesus, and
we thank you for that.

Speaker 4 (02:02:34):
Lord.

Speaker 3 (02:02:36):
We just thank you for that. You know, for all
this time, we've been in a country that has been
free to speak and free to say what we like
to say, and right now that's being challenged in every
way possible. But we we ask for forgiveness if we
have messed that up in a way that maybe we

(02:02:57):
didn't see. But Lord, help us to repent of those things,
and we ask for another chance.

Speaker 4 (02:03:06):
We ask for.

Speaker 3 (02:03:09):
More years of you know, being a remnant for Christ,
for you and being the serious Christians and going out
and not being afraid to talk about you, to tell
others about what you've done in our lives. We don't
have to necessarily quote scripture to them, but tell them

(02:03:30):
what you have done in our life. And we pray
for those people that will hear it, that their eyes
will be open and see you, not us, but see
you through us. And we just thank you for this
time that we've had together. We thank you for our families.
We thank you for a roof over our head, and
food our bellies. We do so much appreciate that so

(02:03:55):
many people don't have food, you know, out there and
third world entries right now, especially especially this year. We
pray for those people and we pray for that you
help them through through other people. Thank you for all
you done for us in Jesus name.

Speaker 4 (02:04:13):
Amen. Amen.

Speaker 3 (02:04:16):
All right, guys, well, this is our Thanksgiving special. We
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(02:04:37):
Yes we do, Yes, we do, Yes, check it out.

Speaker 4 (02:04:40):
We're not We're not quite fancy enough for Parlor yet
we are on parlor kind of which I am still
trying to figure that out. And I have learned that
Parlor is very liberal in their in their stance of liberty.
They just really don't care what you post so far.

Speaker 3 (02:05:01):
So that's so far, folks. Check us out. Next time
we'll have another show.

Speaker 4 (02:05:08):
All right, good night, be in this.

Speaker 11 (02:05:13):
Road, but not on this world.

Speaker 3 (02:05:15):
What good night? Everybody?

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Speaker 3 (02:06:11):
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Speaker 6 (02:06:14):
Happy Thanksgiving to you all.

Speaker 14 (02:06:18):
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