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I exposed that, and she, you know, she had me arrested.
Prior to having me arrested, her car was blown up
and they tried to blame me for blowing up.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Jeez. So it's it's it's bad here, Okay. Now, the
kids that have been trafficked and abused, are they mostly
white young girls?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Mostly white working classes? Yeah? And mostly white working class,
and also that the States would rather forget they existed.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Welcome to business, game Changers. I'm Sarah Westall. I have
Rajah Manyat coming to the program. This is an incredible story.
He is a decorated human rights activist in the UK.
He's a Muslim, he's he's been spending decades of his
life trying to deal with human rights abuses and in
(02:07):
the last six years he realized there was a network
of over one hundred thousand children that were being used
by these Pakistani rape gains. As he was calling it
for politicians to be bribed and used to get a
voting block. He's going to explain it and the persecution
(02:28):
he's been under for exposing this with some of the
top politicians in the UK is absolutely incredible. Elon Musk
came to his defense and that is why he's not
in prison today and it helped him get publicity and safety. Frankly,
(02:50):
but you're going to have to hear this story for yourself.
It's hard to believe some of these things. When you
think you trust these politicians because of the way they talk,
and then you realize they're actually involved in something like this.
It's important for us not to be naive in this
and the fog of war. In a situation like this,
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the fog of combat, when the stakes are so high,
you're going to see narratives and false information from all directions.
But at the end of the day, the most important
thing is for us to get to the truth, and
where that truth usually lies is with the victims and
(03:32):
getting to the source of where these crimes lie, because
that's where you get the best information. And that's why
detectives and people who are used to doing these kind
of investigations, they do their homework, they go talk to
the people involved, they roll up their sleeves and they
actually figure out what really happened. And that's what needs
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to happen if you really want to get to the
bottom of all of this and let the true speak
for itself. So this story is absolutely incredible. It happened
in the UK, but it's not as if these kinds
of things are not happening elsewhere in our country and
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with Raja Maya. Hi. Raja, welcome to the program.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Hie, thank you for having me. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
You have an incredible story you're going to share that
a lot of people just don't realize is going on.
It's kind of horrifying when you look into some of
these details that this is actually happening in the world.
Can you before we get into that, can you explain
we're sharing with the audience who you are and what
your background is.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Absolutely. I spent over twenty years in public service, sat
in rooms with multiple Prime ministers, Secretaries of State in
the United Kingdom, represented my country at Queenslizueth put a
medal on my chest by the time I was thirty
years old. I helped develop a lot of the strategies
in the United Kingdom around race relations, community development, that
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sort of stuff. Historically, very much of the left Sarah,
to my shame, I think retrospectively, and I came back
to the small town that raised me. I was raised
in a small mill town in the part northwest of
England called Oldham. And I went off to work and
then I came back. And when I came back long
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story short, put in front of me was a folder
of evidence, and that evidence was of the systematic cover
up of the gang grape of the town's children, involving politicians.
They were selling children for votes. Long and short of it,
they were selling children for votes, and we embarked on
a campaign that took the best part of seven years
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before thankfully, with the intervention of Elon Musk, it blew up.
And what the truth now is is in our country,
the government were complicit in the industrial scale gang grape
of working class white girls, over one hundred thousand children
or over decades. Were the perpetrators were predominantly Pakistani Muslim
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men who supplied certain politicians and political parties with the
bloc votes that kept them in power or took them
into power.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Wow. Okay, this is an incredible thing. Let me unpeck
a little bit first. Okay, holy crap. Okay, First of all,
I want to say on the left, I don't it's it.
The left has changed, right. I mean a lot of
people fought for everybody to be treated with respect and dignity.
And I don't know if that's a left cause or not,
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but a lot of people thought that was. And I
think that's a cause of all decent human beings because
the right and the left, what we traditionally thought was
that both sides thought that way. And I think the
general middle still do. It's just the extremes went off
the deep end.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Well, whatever the left is now in the United Kingdom,
I'm sure it's the same in the States. I'm not
of it, and yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Not if it's supporting this, right, Okay, so this is incredible. Okay.
So now you were active in helping and with race relations.
That was your job to the point where you actually
were given a medal and you were working with prime ministers.
Can you talk a little bit so people understand your background,
(09:59):
so you're not some yeahhoo that's coming out of the
blue making these allegations. You were a high ranking person
who's dedicated your wife to race relations.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And over twenty years, so some context. Over twenty years
of my life working at the highest level, I would
say in government, I've sat in rooms with multiple Prime ministers,
Secretaries of state, helped devise developed government policy. Where something
went wrong. My background is encounter extremism specifically, so where
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something went wrong, I was sent to try and understand
it and make sense of it so we could safeguard
our nation. So that's what my background is. And I
came back into a very small, working class town where
I was raised, and I wanted none of this. I
think that's also very important to make out. An elderly
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gentleman by the name of Warren Bates kept miving me
and myvoring me after I helped clean up the local mosque.
The chairman of the local mosque was a convicted sex offender,
and the local authorities and the police were quite happy
with that arrangement because of his political links. I campaigned
to have him removed. It was my mosque. He was
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the mosque where my mother's funeral took place a couple
of years ago, So he's my mosque. I helped clean
it up. And after I cleaned it up, this man,
Warren Bates, contacted me eccentric, old gentleman, former counselor at
twelve years old. Thirteen years old. He was a minor,
you know, the white working class that the Labor Party
left behind in my country. And he put in front
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of me a dossier of files that showed that in
the town where I was raised. And this is why
it's important. I think in the town where I was raised,
whilst I was away helping serve said the nation, thinking
that I was doing a good thing, I actually what was
taking place home was children as young as twelve were
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being dragged off the streets in broad daylight where they
were taken into these shisha bas So those are these
smoking dens where they've been raped, drugged, trafficked across the country. Okay,
authorities knew about it, and the authorities covered it up.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Okay. So I've been covering for all over ten years
this in and out, and I did it. I really
went in and started in about twenty sixteen. But I
want to establish a couple baselines here. What is your background, Like,
what is your religon? You said the mosque was yours.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
So I'm a Bangladeshia heritage and I'm a Muslim.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Okay, that's another important point. So you're not going after
Muslims per se because you don't think Muslims. It's like
any kind of stereotype. It's not like all Muslims do this.
It's just there is this gang of extremists who are
doing this, and they're in cohouds with the government and
it's keeping this block voting for their candidates, and they
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look another way while they're taking advantage of over one
hundred thousand children over how long of a time.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Decades, The evidence is decades, at least three decades.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
My gosh, okay, Now in your research, was it just
the Muslims or was there was it beyond Muslims?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I would have said so in the context of this,
what makes these crimes unique? And if you recall up
right at the beginning, we affirmed that my background was
in race relations. You know, I'm a trained anti racist,
so I was trained to spot racism and react and
respond to racism. What was taking place and what has
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been taking place in this country in the United Kingdom,
And the evidence so far is eighty five local authorities,
So eighty five councils is only like three hundred councils
in the entire countries, so like a third of the
third of the country. This took place in the there's
a predominantly Pakistani diaspora. So people who came here in
the sixties and the seventies from Pakistan, from the Mirpur
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district of Pakistan. Now the context of this is that
they came with a set of beliefs and attitudes. Were
one who what we consider it to children, they don't
consider to be children. So twelve thirteen, they don't culturally,
they don't consider that to be a child, you know,
for them as an adult. Secondly, they have a whole
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host of religious prejudices that legitimize slavery of white girls,
you know, of non Muslims. And they came to this
country off the back of two very significant historical events.
One was the creation of Pakistan. And I don't want
to bore you, but I think it gives you the
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context your listeners will want this. In the creation of
Pakistan in nineteen forty seven, Tian nation was formed through
a process of ethnic cleansing. So the ethnic cleansing was
the removal of the Hindus and the Sikhs from what
had became modern day Pakistan. And they used rape genocide
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as a method to, you know, to cleanse what became Pakistan.
In nineteen seventy one, in the war between what became
Bangladesh and pakistanis Pakistan and West Pakistan, over a nine
month period, the Pakistani government and the Muslim clerics, the
Islamic clerics from Pakistan, supported a militia and the army
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to set up rape camps in what became Bangladesh. And
the official figures off somewhere between three hundred and four
hundred thousand children, women, girls were raped in these rape camps.
So the nation was formed off the back of rape,
and rape was used as a weapon of war and
a racial we World War. So these men were taught
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these people are inferior. There are the Hindus or Sikhs
or racially the bangladeshis their inferior and God gives you
the permission to rape them.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Michael, Okay, So that's what I was going to ask you.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
That's the context. And then they came to the United
Kingdom with those beliefs.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Well, and that's what I was going to ask you.
What what warrants their behavior or belief that somebody who
is free, that a family here believes that child is
free and independent, why they can then turn them into
a slave that they own. Where do they get that
mental attitude?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
The one is cultural because of the of the history
of how the nation was formed and what they did
informing that. No one has ever punished, you know, like
how we had the Second World War and the Nazis
were promised or were punished and everyone agreed, you know, that
Nazism was evil and all the rest of that. That
education has never took place because it's it's in our
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in our multicultural utopia that we want to create. We
don't talk about the prejudices of the minority communities. We
focus on the prejudices of the of the majority communities.
So you can only be racist if you're white. I
think it's what I'm saying in a simplified firm.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So we're naive, right, I mean, the point is that
in the quest of having this everybody be treated equal,
we are ignoring this incredible nastiness that's coming with it.
They have to behave too, if we're going to have
any kind.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Of well, yeah, I mean, come on, but they never
have behaved. They never behaved there, and when they came
here they are allowed to do what they were doing
to Specifically, we have in this country are working class
demographic or white working class demographic, but is treated with contempt,
considered to be an underclass in many ways, so no
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one cares for them, and if you do care for them,
you're branded racist. And that's what took place. So this
one hundred thousand children who were systematically gangraped and trafficked
and the men who are raped in them, so we're
clear they were like brothers, cousins together fathers and sons. Granted,
you know, three generations of the same family raping these children,
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trafficking them across the country to their cousins elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
All who were the ones that were raping and traffic
predominantly Pakistani?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Predominantly Pakistani. And we've we've we've forced that out of
the government. Now, just before the national inquiry was announced,
a woman called Baroness Casey was brought into an audit
and she makes make specific reference to Pakistani in that
this is because of the and it's hard because you
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generalize in the stereotype, and I don't want to do that,
but the truth is the truth. There is an undercurrent
within that community of racial superiority, of religious justification. And
because they operate in a clan based structure, so they
operate as though in these extended families, these clans, so
they control thousands and thousands of votes. Were the mosques,
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or the community leaders or the elders, you know, king
kings of these cartels, I call them, control the votes.
They were very quickly able to work out that in
exchange for supplying these votes to predominantly white politicians. Let's
be clear, you know, predominantly white politicians. Yeah, they the
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system then turned a blind eye to their indiscretions, and
terminology that was used was to maintain community relations. So
we sacrificed one hundred thousand children in this country to
maintain community relations.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
They want people to stay ignorant to what's really going
on because they think that if they aren't, then then
they are going to racially discriminate against all Pakistanians. And
so our problem is that they want people to think
that the racism and the bad behavior is only white people,
because if we find out out what pack some pakistanis
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or what their cultural beliefs are, then we will discriminate
against them in whole. And so there the result of
that is these hundreds of thousands of kids who are
being raped and traded for votes because we're too weak
to acknowledge the truth and get past that.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
And our prime minister in January when this exploded, the
first speech our Prime minister gave was to stand up
and say this was what we'd released, what the evidence
we that is now proven to be true. What we've
come out with was a far right bandwagon. The Prime
Minister Kirs Stamer stood up and claimed that we were
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lying and this was a far right bandwagon.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Well, and because even though the proof shows that these
kids were murdered and traded, they don't want to murdered
as well.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
So we clear murdered murdered as well.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, well that they don't want to be implicated in
trading votes for this behavior. So they're going to fight
it tooth and nail because they don't want to be implicated.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
There are politicians directly involved in what took place, in
facilitating what took place on the grassroots, you know, on
the front line, there were politicians involved in covering things
up for them. And now the government is involved in
trying to rig the national inquiries. So there are politicians
involved in this. And if we get to where we
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want to get to on this, and God willing, we
will get there, is we will see politicians in prison
for the complicity in the industrial scale gang grape of
our nation's children. And their evidence is overwhelming. The evidence
is overwhelming. They've done everything they can to try and
silence us, have been in and out of police cells
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for the last three four years, fabricated alligation after allegation
against me, and they've lost because we forced the truth out.
And now there will be a reckoning.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
The truth has a way of getting out and the
truth needs to speak for itself. You don't need to
make anything up. You don't need to just here's the truth.
Everybody can decide for themselves. Now you you have been
in and on the jail. Why are and I know
why they are? But what did you do specifically that
they are I know what you did specific but what
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are they claiming you did that's bad enough to get
you in the prison?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Oh, they arrested me as a racist and fire right activist.
So there's a brown faced Muslim man that the Queen
put a medal in his chest for services of the
nation was arrested as a racist and fire right activist.
And that included because I I am very clear on this,
(22:42):
these are racially motivated crimes, because the motivation of these
men is racist, the opposite. Yeah. But in the yeah,
and and we can have this argument if you want,
when they never have done where you know, because it's
case after case against me collapsed in running court. But
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in the end, the truth is the truth. These were
racially motivated crimes. As one hundred thousand of our children,
white working classes and the perpetrators were predominantly Pakistani, and
they justify their actions also through the religious interpretations of
the Quran. And I'm sorry, I can in a democracy,
I can even I can question. Surely I can question
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the interpretation of the teachings of my own faith. And
I'm not talking about someone else's faith. This is my
own faith. Surely I can question that. They weren't having it.
They done rated my house, repeated, They fabricated evidence. They
just fabricated evidence, and the plan was to try and
not just to put pressure on me so I'd give up.
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But they also openly worked with a criminal network. So
there's a man called Charlie Peters, a journalist from GBN News,
has done some really really interesting work and he's demonstrated
how the rate gangs, I call them rate gangs were
operated alongside the heroin gangs, you know, the drug dealing gangs.
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And they were the same families. They were the same
Pakistani families who traded children just as they traded drugs. Yeah.
And the third member of the family, so that once
trade in the children, once trade in the drugs, and
the third member of the family consistently is a politician,
a local councilor ok yeah, from where I come from,
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the leader of the council and to quantity give you
some context of this. She is also the chair of
the National Constitutional Committee of the Labor Party. One of
the most powerful politicians in this in this country is
the Equalities lead for a man called Andy Burnham, who
is the Greater Manchester mayor. You know, he's a senior
figure in this country. Her name is Aruj Shah. Arud
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Shah hangs off the arm of a man called Irishimi.
Irish Shimi was the getaway driver of a cop killer,
a man called Dale Kriegan killed two police officers, two
policewomen in our country. And the council leader hangs off
his arm. And she's one of the most powerful politicians
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in this country. I exposed that and she, you know,
she had me arrested. Prior to having me arrested, her
car was blown up and they tried to blame me
for blowing up packa jeez.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
So it's it's it's bad here, Okay. Now, the kids
that have been trafficked and abused are they mostly white
young girls.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Mostly white working classes and mostly white working class And
also that the state would rather forget they existed. So
recently there was an inquiry done called IXA, an independent
inquiry into child sexual exploitation, took seven years to conduct.
They tried to avoid, or they pretty much avoided this
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issue of the grooming gangs. They talked out child abuse
in its wider sense, not this particular sense, when this
is unique because of its racial motivations and because of
its political links. They came back and said, oh, we
One of the recommendations was compensation for children. You know,
a lot of these children were in care homes, so
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the state was caring for these children. They came back
and said, we can't compensate these children because there's too
many of them. It'll cost too much.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Oh my gosh, okay, so that nothing can be done,
I mean even making sure that they get an education,
setting up a program for them.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I went to a tribute to a couple of weeks
ago in a town called Rochdale, which is next door
to where I live, for a young woman called Charlotte Tetley.
Charlotte Tetley, the coroner released her suicide details last month.
She was one of the survivors of the grooming gangs.
You know, she'd been gang grape traffic from the age
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of twelve. She made it to about thirty. And of course,
you know, drug dependency, a whole lot of things, because
these are the damage as a consequence of what's happened
to them, completely understandable. Do you know what they did?
They made them move out of her town where she
had all of us support networks to let the guy
who was involved in gang grapeing her move back into
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the town.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Oh my gosh, I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
They moved a field. Yeah, and she committed suicide because
all of us support from it.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Well, because it's like how much more cruelty can you
foist onto somebody? You know? I had some of the
other days say, you know the I don't know what
you what you you're a Muslim, but you know the darkness,
you know, people think the balance of light and dark
in the unit to help us learn whatever. I don't
know what you're what people believe, but the darkness is
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so incredibly strong that to me is such darkness. It's
incredible that it has taken hold and is this powerful.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Sarah, this is a f between good and evil and
that this has become made very clear to me on
the journey I've been on and every time I was
on the verge of something horrific happening to me, or
they succeeding in should sing me down. The only reason
I'm here is is by the grace of God. No
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more complicated than that. There was. For instance, one of
the times was I was arrested and I was let out,
and the local newspapers had run with the story that
had been arrested as part of a tile sex exploitation network.
I was a PEDI hout.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
They're just false, That's It's incredible.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah, they falsified that clearly, you know, I was. I
went to pick up my daughter from school. She was
six years old at the time. All the other parents
were staring at me, you can imagine what was going on.
And a gentleman came up to me and I only
knew him in passing because my daughter and his daughter
went to the were in the same class, you know.
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And he said to me, I can help you. And
he was a barrister, and he wasn't. If it wasn't
for him, they would have had me in prison.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, there's good people embedded everywhere and that you're seeing
come out that are seeing these same patterns. But I
think the darkness is stronger now than the light, you know,
at least in some places, and it's if you don't
see it based on stories like this. Now, Elon Musk
came and helped you, which is pretty remarkable. So you
(29:32):
were probably sitting there going, oh my god, I'm what
am I fighting right now? Just like many others in the.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Past, go ahead, we'd lost. So it took us six
years to force our council because we've got to go
through a due process of getting a council to pass
a vote to write to the government to say there's
a problem in the town to do with the gang
grape of children. The council of obviously the politicians and
they didn't want not because they're all a lot involved
in the cover up. So we removed them. We're removed,
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you know. At the local elections, we went out and campaigned.
I had an army of predominantly pensioners. We went out,
knocked on those campaigned and we removed counselor after councilor
after councilor, council leader after council leader after council leader.
All the time the police are arresting me and trying
to put me in prison to say no, we've arrested
you to stop you from campaigning. Remember it's meant to
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be a democracy. We've arrested you to stop you from
lawfully campaigning because we're uncomfortable with what you're What you're doing,
what getting people to go out and vote and remove
politicians who are involved in the cover up. Anyway, we
did that. We got six years. It took us, and
then we forced the Council to write to the government.
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We vote to the government and a woman called Jess Phillips,
she is the Minister for Safeguarding girls, built her entire
career on this fallacy of how she stands up for women.
She sat on our appeal and wrote back to us saying, no,
we don't need an inquiry. You can do it yourself.
The government doesn't need to intervene.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Is she involved that besides covering up your thing? Is
she because a lot of people who are acting like
they are helping traffic people are actually fronts to clear
out their competition.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Really yeah, And she we forced her into a series
of admissions of the last year where she's now admitted
she's known about it for fourteen years. In the country.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
So the worst thing is go ahead.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Sorry, the most senior female politician in the country's job
is specifically to safeguard girls, has known about this for
fourteen years and refused an inquiry when we wrote to
her and Elon and she wrote back to the town
and it was a horrible letter. It was a really
condescending letter. And I released it on New Year's Day
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and I'd given up then. I was out of money.
I was I was a start as the knackered. You know,
how much more can I how much more can I give?
And I said, here, here, world, have this letter. You know,
this is what we've got back Within hours, Elon Musk
had picked up on it, and just like that it changed,
Just like that, it changed, and now it's you know,
(32:13):
I'm speaking to you. We forced the National Inquiry here.
They're trying to rigate covery up. But it makes no
difference because the truth is out. In the United Kingdom.
To maintain this myth of multicultural utopia, we exchanged the
lives of hundreds of thousands of small, working class white
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girls who were systematically groomed, gang graped, drugged and trafficked
across the United Kingdom. Many of them have died and
the authorities were complicit in the cover up so much
so the truth has now also emerged in one of
the neighboring towns, Rotherham. It's called where the official records
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confirmed fourteen hundred children. It's only a small town, fourteen
hundred children officially, when were groomed gang groups in this
work in this way, in just a small town. What
had come out is that the police were involved. The
police were raping these children in the back of police cards.
And of course the policemen were Pakistani men who were
linked to the Pakistani networks.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
And the truth. All you're asking for is for the
truth to come out and let it speak for itself,
and it does.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
We want this to stop. We want this to stop.
I have a child. I don't want my child growing
up in a place where she could be dragged off
the street in broad daylight, drugged, raped and trafficked and
the authorities arrest the parents because that's what they were doing.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
It's just it's incredible. It kind of messes up their
utopia narrative, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
It doesn't. All cultures are not the same. And i've
you know, as I say, with traditionally of the left,
and no, all cultures are not the same. And these
men and the cultural history and their religious interpretation is
one that is completely alien to that of a liberal
Western democracy where we safeguard our children, don't we, you know,
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you know, it's one of the things we try and
present ourselves as a civilized society. A twelve year old
child will not get dragged off the street and gang
groups in traffic. And when the policeman comes along, he's
not gonna arrest a parent and he definitely isn't gonna
join in the raping of the child.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Okay, okay, So Moss came to your rescue and he
is being persecuted himself in the UK. They don't like him, and.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
They don't like the fact that we can use independent
media to tell our own stories. So the power of X,
how we've used Facebook, YouTube. They try to shut us
down on all of those platforms, and I think if
they had the way, they would close down these platforms.
You know. They don't want this narrative story getting out
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or stories it's getting out.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Well and well of course, because they're implicated they're part
of it, and then it goes against their narrative of
this utopia bs that it's just not real. It's not real,
and that's what they The real is what you were
trying to do before. But we can't be naive and
think that somebody who has the opposite of our beliefs
can come into the system and just operate the way
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we expect them to. We need to have higher standards,
don't you think.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
I went to the remembrance service, so it's you know,
remembrance Sunday we call it here, so we were the
poppies and we remember the fallen from the World Wars
and stuff. I went to the remembrance service on Sunday,
and it's the same every year. There's a complete absence
of Muslims at these remembrance services. What we've got in
this country, and it's the same way. It'll be the
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same way you are and it'll be ellescalating. The same
way is you have an entire demographic of people who
are not citizens of the nation first, they are Muslims first,
or or brought into a radical Islamist ideology first, who
just happen to live here and they don't want to
live alongside us, They don't want to integrate with us.
They want their own parallel society, and over the fullness
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of time, they will carve out their own silos, something
equivalent to the Balkans. That's what they want. That's what
the United Kingdom is heading unless we intervene. And it's
whether the politicians who we are trying to support have
the courage to intervene and.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
To be fair. And to be fair. We used to
expect that. We used to say, if you're going to
come here, you need to assimilate and embrace our culture.
And then they stopped expecting that, and then now we
get the ramifications of it.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah, and and what we've what we've got is the
historical immigration in this country has been with people who
wanted to belong here or had a connection to here.
That's not the case anymore, not just the isn't the
case anymore. There's no there's no relationship, there's no there's
no love for the nation. And you can see he
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sense it. You go to a place like London and
and the transforming at such a rate where we're losing.
You know, we're losing because we won't face up to this.
And one of the reasons we won't face up to
this because, as was proven in the rape gangs, were
a lot of the social workers, the frontline staff. We
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were aware of everything that was going on, could have
spoken out, didn't speak out, And time after time after
the time they said they didn't speak out because they
were scared of being accused of being racist.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
So we have to put this into a proper context too,
in the sense that the politicians who are promoting this
are white, mostly white politicians who are using benefit. So
we have to put a hard read line here and
say we don't want anyone who doesn't view our standards
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of what a civilization is to be here. And if
you're here already and you're not living up to that standard,
you need to be prosecuted and put into prison.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
So that's what we're campaigning for now. Politicians should go
to prison for their roles in the complicity and the
court transcripts, and they're trying to censor the court transcripts.
Were the court transcripts that we've managed to get hold
of three men, four men, five men at a time
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with a twelve year old child, you know, and they're
lined up outside to take turns.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah, that's the gang rape stuff and the poor girl
is messed up for the rest of their life.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Children gone missing, children dent told you've got to bring
your sister, or you've got to bring a friend next time,
although we'll go and burn your house down and kill
your mum. All of that sort of stuff. Stories of
children peering and being chopped up and mixed with kebbab meat,
all of that. All of that stuff has happened in
the Indian United Kingdom, is documented in the United Kingdoms.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
So what does that do to a soul of a country.
I mean, you don't go unscathed by having that as
an underbelly of what's going on. Right, you start to
see symptoms everywhere of the fact that this is what
our politicians are supporting. So you start seeing it in
other areas of life.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Well, was the trust, you know what? Society here is
on the verge of you know, people stay civil war
and stuff. And I won't go that far because the
English are restrained. The British are conservative by their very nature.
But you know, so it's not like some parts of Africa,
for instance, where you'd see that. In South America, we
not like that. But we've lost all trust and all
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faith in our political system. And we've done. If that's
what we are, where do we go from here?
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Well, that's kind of what's happening in the United States too.
People have lost complete trust and faith and the politicians
because they just keep lying and we keep uncovering crimes
and this level of crime is you Civilization can't children, Yes, children,
Civilization can't stand with this being the undercurrent of what's
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propping up the politicians. It can't. It's going to it's
a house of cards, right, and that's what we're seeing.
But it could take down our countries if we're not careful.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
I think we are. It'd be nothing other than arrogant
if you believe that somehow our civilization is impregnable and
the same cannot happen to us as what happened to
civilizations before us. The Western way of life and the
liberal Western democracy that we believe in is very much
(40:55):
at risk. And it's at risk because our leaders have
done deals with people who do not have our interests
at heart, and they've sacrificed their own people, our people,
in exchange for power. And this isn't in some far
away land as part of our foreign policy. This is
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in our towns and cities in our own country, and
it's unforgivable.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
It is unforgivable. So how do people learn more about
this and support your cause? Because these are the causes
that we have to support. I mean, we have to
put an end to this.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
There's a you know, I am a political campaigner, so
I'm only one element of a growing movement. So you
can contact me by all means. I'm on X you'll
find an extra type my naming. But you know, there
are people like brave, people like Maggie Oliver, who was
a police officer who was basically sacked for whistle blowing
what took place. He runs a foundation with that supports
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the children themselves. Campaigners like a woman called Sammy Woodhouse
who just helped to pass a law if we can
stop it from being amended too much, were they were
prosecuting the girls as prostitutes.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
That's incredible, Okay, so it's absolutely credit. Now are there
politicians that you are supporting because the part of this network,
Because the people, the politicians who are showing courage and
who aren't part of this network need to be highlighted
because otherwise they're persecuted too.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
The first one is a man called Rupert Low. He
came in on the wave of reform, so he's one
of the original reform politician MPs. They had a falling out.
Is now independent, but he he's a decent man, no
regardless of his You know, powerful people bicker with each
other all the time, is what I found in. I
don't get involved in that is a decent man is Rupert.
(42:47):
He crowdfunded something like six hundred thousand pounds his launched
his own National Inquiry, which doesn't have the powers, but
it adds pressure to the government, so you know, so
he's doing that and speaking out in parliament. There's a
young Conservative MP called Katie Lamb. I admire her immensely.
Her bravery is, her tenacity has got to be admired.
(43:09):
She stands up in Parliament and reads out the court
transcripts of what these men said whilst they were doing
what they were doing, and you know, so those two
stick out straight away. Reform, the political part of reform
promised in the last manifesto. Hopefully they'll promise again in
the next one that there'll be a proper national inquiry.
And these people go to the prison. So that's Nigel
(43:32):
Farage and his team. But the right is fractured here
and I don't know what it's like in the States,
and it's not in our interests, you know, because it's fractured,
it makes us weaker. And they're fractured over insignificant small issues,
not and.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Well, I think that this isn't a right left issue.
You know, the extremes are going to be the extremes.
I think the entire middle of the country and people
who understand, well.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
This country, our country is horrified when I sit and
I travel the country every day, I speak at events,
and it's now got to a place where no one
can legitimize what took place, you know, the cover ups.
You know, the truth is out and you can't legitimize
(44:20):
what took place. And people historically of the left also
want the inquiry and the investigation. Problem we've got is
the politicians because they're incriminated because then next deep in
the cover up, So some of the most powerful people
in this country and next deep in the cover up
of what took place, and these are senior government ministers.
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In the lead up to this news breaking, the Labor parties,
So the Labor Party in the United Kingdom is now
the party in government. Yeah, it's like your Republican party.
The Labor Party wrote to me and threatened to sue
me if I didn't shut up. I told them I'd
see them in the High Court. That's what we're up
to because they know once this house of cards cards
(45:03):
come top toppling down, all of it collapses because it
goes to the highest level of government. The cover up
goes to the highest level of government.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Well, and we need to be ready to uh catch
that and make sure we can sustain Western society. But
Western society cannot be sustained with this in place. I mean,
it's just that basic. Our everything is a facade. If
you don't fix this, now, how are you staying safe there?
Because you are, you know, you are uncovering some pretty
(45:34):
serious stuff.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
There's there's facts out on on on me. They've tried
to kill me several times. I have an arrangement with
my friends and my family that my daughter will be
looked after. And I wake up every morning and I
see the sunrise. And I wake up every morning and
see the sunrise because I don't know if I'll see
another one. And that's that's the truth.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Well, you know, I think you're being protected.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
I think the I think is the higher power here.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Yeah, and we need we need to keep you in
the spotlight because that's how you maintain protection because then
otherwise you become a martyr and then your message becomes
further and farther. But thank you for everything you did
you do in the best place to follow you is on.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
X I just type in my name and I'll come
up Raja Mia and then you'll see me. Please do
give me a follow. The more we have, the better.
I am always overwhelmed on people like you get in
touch because in the United Kingdom, the mainstream media, I'm blacklisted.
You know, I'm blacklisted here no one. So that's the
truth of it. And I'm not lying about any of this.
(46:46):
And I'm a campaigner, you know. I've sacrificed the last
seven years to force this into the open. I don't
gain anything from this, but it's it's not right. What
sort of society are we can't look after our children?
What does that make us?
Speaker 2 (46:59):
That's it exactly right. Western society is a facade unless
we can take care of this period. Thank you so
much for everything you do and you continue to do,
and I appreciate you showing up on our show and
telling your story.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Thank you so much, Thank you.
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