August 9, 2026 • 45 mins
A cavity in a four-year-old and an artery at forty — sounds impossible, until you see the research. Dr.
Mark Cannon of Northwestern's Feinberg School of Medicine joins Dr. Adam Brockman for a conversation that starts before a baby's first tooth and reaches all the way into adult heart disease and diabetes. We cover the maternal microbiome, the ultra-processed food policy nobody talks about, the nose you forgot was connected to all of it, and yes — the science behind xylitol that could change how your family thinks about prevention for good.
Mark Cannon of Northwestern's Feinberg School of Medicine joins Dr. Adam Brockman for a conversation that starts before a baby's first tooth and reaches all the way into adult heart disease and diabetes. We cover the maternal microbiome, the ultra-processed food policy nobody talks about, the nose you forgot was connected to all of it, and yes — the science behind xylitol that could change how your family thinks about prevention for good.
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Hello. Hello. Suppose I told you that a cavity in
a four year old carries information about that child's arteries
at age forty. You'd be right to push back. That
sounds like a stretch, except that two research groups, one
in Finland and one in Denmark, have now followed people
long enough to actually test it. The Danish study alone
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included more than a half a million people, and what
they failed is that childhood oral disease tracks with adult
heart disease in adult diabetes. Now, if you're just settling
in with us, welcome to Health Talk America. I'm doctor
Adam Brockman, and I want you to sit with that
opening for a second because it's not a throwaway line.
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It's going to be the conversation this entire hour. And
I'll tell you right now where this hour is actually
going to take us, not just to the four year
old with the cavity, but further back, before the teeth,
before the birth. We're going to start with the mother.
And here's why we spend so much of our lives
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treating the mouth like it's a separate appliance, something we
brush something we've lost when we remember, and something we
hand off to the dentist twice a year and otherwise ignore.
But the mouth doesn't start empty. A baby is not
born into a sterile world. A baby is born directly
into an ecosystem, and that very first ecosystem that the
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baby ever meets belongs entirely to the mother. There's a
window researchers call the first thousand days. It runs from
conception to roughly the second birthday, and it is, without exaggeration,
the single most important stretch of biological time. A human
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being ever passes through the immune system is being trained
in that window. The gut lining is maturing, metabolism is
being calibrated. In an entire microble community. We're talking trillions
of organisms that will shape the child's health for decades
is being assembled for the very first time. That assembly
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is not random. It is seated almost entirely by the
people in the household, and overwhelmingly by the mother or
the primary caregiver. And I want you to think about that.
Think about how ordinary, how comple completely unremarkable that seating
looks like in real life, A shared spoon at dinner,
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a pacifier that falls on the floor and gets cleaned
in a parent's mouth before it goes back to the baby,
or tasting the food before you hand it over, just
to check the temperature, a good night kiss. None of
that feels medical. It feels like parenting, the small, the loving,
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the thoughtless gestures that every mother makes a hundred times
a day, But every single one of those moments is
a microboal transfer event. The community of bacteria living in
a mother's mouth becomes to a very real and measurable extent,
that's starting community in her child's mouth. So ask yourself
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the next question, the next obvious question, And I want
to ask that right now. What happened if that starts?
That community that starts isn't a healthy one. The organisms
researchers worry about most in early childhood are called mutan streptococci.
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And here's what we need to know. When a mother
carries high levels of these bacteria in her own saliva,
her child tends to acquire them earlier in life. An
earlier acquisition is tied to dramatically more cavities in early childhood.
That child, in other words, inherits a head start on
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disease before they've ever held a toothbrush. Now layer in
something most people never think about, that pregnancy itself is
hard on the mouth. Hormonal and vascular changes increase gum
inflammation and bleeding, and nausea brings up stomach acid into
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that enamel, and eating patterns they shift towards frequent small snacks, which,
as we'll get to later this hour, is exactly the
wrong kind of exposure for a healthy mouth. Then there's
dry mouth, and tragically, there is very often interrupted dental
care because so many pregnant women have been told and
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wrongfully told that dental treatment isn't safe while carrying a baby.
Let's go ahead and kill that myth right now. Cleanings
are safe during pregnancy, and local anesthesia is mostly safe.
Treating an infection is always safer than leaving it untreated
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for nine months. What is not safe is a mother
sitting through an entire pregnancy with an untreated abscess because
somebody gave her bad advice. So here's a tragy in
that pregnancy should be the single best prevention opportunity we get.
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A pregnant woman is in contact with the healthcare system repeatedly,
month after month for the better part of a year.
That's a window we simply do not get again until
a child starts school, and right now, medicine and dentistry
they operate like two separate buildings with two separate insurance systems,
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and mothers fall straight through the gap between them. This
is where the Finnish and Danish research I opened with
becomes so important, because it proves that this isn't a small,
private family by family concern, it's a public health pattern
showing up at populational on a scale. Researchers in Finland
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tracked children for decades into adulthood and found that childhood
signs of oral infection were to cardiovascular risk factors and
too early arterial changes that show up as adults. A
companion study that's tied that same childhood exposure to the
adult metabolic syndrome and we're talking about, you know, eventually
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like diabetes. And then Denmark, with its extraordinary national health
registries confirmed again at scale most researchers can only dream of.
One cohort study, for example, was roughly six hundred and
twenty seven thousand people linking childhood gum disease in severe
cavities to adult to diabetes, and a second study of
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nearly was five hundred and sixty eight thousand people linked
childhood oral disease to adult cardiovascular disease. That's half a
million people, and that's twice over. So we know that
pattern Holts. And here's the detail I want you to
actually carry with you this entire hour because it changes
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everything about how we should be thinking about a mother's
role in all of this. It wasn't one bad dental
visit that predicted adult disease. It was this trajectory over childhood,
whether that oral health got better, stayed the same, or
got worse year after year, Which means the story doesn't
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really begin with the four year old in the cavity.
It begins earlier still, with the ecosystem of a mother
that she hands to her child before that child's first
tooth ever breaks through the gums. This is a generational story,
and unlike genetics, it's a story a family can actually rewrite.
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That's exactly why this hour I've brought in a guest
who has spent forty years making this argument from the
inside of pediatric dentistry. It's doctor Mark Cannon, and he's
a professor at Northwestern Universe Ste's Feinberg School of Medicine
and an attending pediatric dentist at Laurie the Children's Hospital
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in Chicago, and he's going to walk us through why
the fight against adult chronic disease may start before a
baby even has teeth, and how a mother's mouth becomes
her child's mouth, how the food system feeds that inheritance further.
And yes, we're going to get into the nose as well,
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the plate you eat your dinner off of, and a
few surprising tools that can actually interrupt this cycle in
real time. So when you stay with us, when we
come back, doctor Cannon joins me, and we start exactly
where every good story about a child's health should start,
with the mother. Health Talk America continues in just a minute.
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And we are back on Health Talk America. I'm doctor
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dot com. And before the break, I tease something that
sounds almost too strange to be true, and that's that
a child's cavity might be telling us something about their heart.
Forty years down the road. I also teased, I have
a great guest joining me this hour to discuss this
topic in further detail. And joining me today is doctor
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Mark Cannon. He's a professor at Lori Children's Hospital of
Chicago in Northwestern University's Fineberg School of Medicine, and doctor
Cannon has spent four decades teaching that the mouth isn't
a side room off the body, It's the front door.
Doctor Cannon. Welcome to Health Talk America. How are you today?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Well, I am fine, and thank you so much for
having me on, because obviously this is something I'm very
passionate about. It's been part of my life for decades.
Because we don't have time to talk about all this,
but I started off as in microbiology as a research
assistant working in a microbiology lab and back and I'm
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telling you, seventy four seventy five, we knew that these
bacteria were involved with much more than just the mouth.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And this is gonna be a great conversation, doctor Cannon.
I want to start somewhere unusual in what most parents
their thought process when thinking about the dentist. And that's
before a child even has teeth, before the child is
even born. So, doctor Cannon, why does a pediatric dentist
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care about pregnancy.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Well, because babies, they're not born into a sterile world.
They come into this ecosystem. They're coming into a type
of evolutionary biology that has been with us since we
develop as a species. We develop with our microbiome, with
the bacteria, and so when babies come in, they pick
up the bacteria. Mostly the vast majority actually come from
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the mother. I mean they come from the birthing process.
And of course there's a research even showing that the
placenta may not be sterile at all, but maybe most
of can to the mother's world microbiome. These bacteria they
get from the mother. If they're beneficial, that's great, but
if the mother has issues, then it's not so great.
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And we can see how law this can happen. Just
because of the sharing of utensils, that will happen. And
of course when you have a baby, what do you
want to do. You want to hug the baby, want
to kiss a baby. I have six grandkids. I absolutely
enjoy being with them so much. But you have a
law of contact, and every study has shown that you
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share bacteria within a family. Good bacteria and bad bacteria.
So if they start off with a bad one, then
they have a head start on disease. And this is
what we're really concerned about. We're concerned that they end
up having this head start on disease. And this is
a relationship that becomes so important, and this is something
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we're in dentistry. We've been involved with this relationship for
a long time. We have studies that go back many
decades showing if you ended, if you intervene early on
in maternal healthcare with good preventive dentistry, and you reduce
the number of cavities in the mother, that has an
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influence on that child's oral health for a very very
long time, at least nineteen years, because that's when they
would age out the research projects. But now, because we
know so many of these bacteria, including ones that caust cavities,
are so involved with systemic health issues like oral cancer strokes.
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Oh wow, there's a certain cavity producing bacteria, if it
has a certain gene, you're fifteen times more likely to
have fifteen times more likely to have a deep cerebel stroke.
All the studies are incredible. If you're missing teeth due
to to dental disease, you're four times more likely to
have cardiovascular disease. These ratios, these pods ratios, and later
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the hazard ratio for fatality between oral disease and the
oral and between oral disease and systemic disease, those are overwhelming,
including now anxiety, depression, and Parkinson's disease because the same cavity,
that the same bacteria that causes cavities is also associated
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with changes in the gut that can lead to symptoms
of Parkinson's disease. And that's well documented. That's why it
is so important.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, this is an important conversation, and I mentioned this
in the opening for the show today and challenge our
listeners to think about how ordinary that seating looks like
in real life. You know, we're talking about a shared spoon,
the drop pacifier that gets clean in a parent's mouth, tasting,
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tasting the food before you hand it to baby, you know,
a kiss, all these things that you mentioned, and none
that really feels medical so to speak. It it feels
like it's just parenting. But doctor Canaan, if that starting
that micro that community like you mentioned build on, that's
it's in the mother's hands in it and she's handing over.
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Basically it's not a not a healthy one. Is the
child at risk?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Then well, yeah, this is the problem. The child will
be at risk if the mother does not have a
healthy oral microbiome. And we're going to go a whole
hour in this, right, But if you have bad bacteria
in the mouth, they see the gut. And there's been numerous,
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I do mean numerous studies now showing that the oral microbiome,
because the bacteria in the mouth, goes straight back to
the gut and the gastroineurologist like I work with a
pediatric deaths heernurologist out Children's Hospital, and doctor Jeff Brown
would always say, hey, the gi track the gut starts
at the lips because technically it does, right, and so
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you just can't divide the mouth out of that. So
the bacteria here they go down the gut. And they
have done so many studies, excellent animal studies where they
have given these bad bacteria to mice and the first
thing that happens to the mice is to get leaky
gut from these bacteria. The bacteria end up in the
liver where they can affect the whole systemic health. They
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change the immune system. You have a big shift at
the gut bacteria and you get all this inflammation in
the whole body. So the whole thing that leaky gut
is from leaky gambs to begin with, from the mouth.
So this is why dietary consultations are so important too.
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In dentistry, we've always been talking about limit the sugar,
limit the show right, limit the frequencies because the more
often you eat a lot of these sugary sweets, or
how often you drink pop. It's not so much the amount,
but how often you do it that changes the oral microbiome.
Of course, becauses cavities because all that sugar becomes acid.
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It breaks down the teeth over a period of time.
But the main thing is you're changing all of what's
going on with the oral microbiome, which then leads to
changes in the gut microbiol And of course we have pregnancy,
and during pregnancy that's when we have a lot of changes.
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We have a lot of hormonal changes that lead to
vascular changes. There's a lot of edema because of estrogen levels.
The estrogen levels even change the gut microbiome. The oral
microbiome on their own. There are certain bacteria than the
presence of the increased estrogen greatly take off in numbers.
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And course there's a nausea vomiting that can change the
pH in the mouth, that can go on diet changes.
And the crazy thing is you can actually have a
decreased themouth saliva and that decrease changes your protection. You
get from your saliva. Saliva is full of calcium and
phosphase gets full of the good proteins and peptides. And
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because of that, if you have a change in your saliva,
you have a change in a bloral and then gut health.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Well, doctor kna we got a lot more to discuss
this hour, you know, the food system, the nose, and
yes we're even going to get into xylotol before this
hour is up. So folks on which just stick with us.
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and I will be right back. Welcome back, health Talk America.
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Back with you. I'm doctor Adam Brockman and back with
doctor Mark Cannon. He's a professor at Northwestern's Fineberg School
of Medicine, and doctor Cannon. Before the break, we were
talking about the mouth being a gateway, and you were
mentioning the importance of saliva, so I want to just
continue there.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Well, of course saliva is interesting. Of course, it evolved
with us to protect us, and that's why it has
over fifty different proteins and peptides in it that are protective.
There's several of them, like his Satine five that you
can actually get now as a lozenge. I'm kind of
excited to see how that will work long term because
also levels actually determine how much oral health you have
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if you're low in like k sitting by to get
more cavities, So all this stuff is interesting. Of Course,
saliva contains nitric oxide too, and I think everyone in
health knows about nitric oxide that since nineteen ninety eight
that's been like a really really big thing, and in
dentistry since about two thousand and four, nitric oxide's been
a big deal. So all those things are things that
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we can measure, and we can talk more about all
that later because I think it's so very important. But
if we look at going back to the cavities like
at age four, which you mentioned earlier. That's from that
finish work that came out of the Turkua region of Finland,
and they followed kids who had had cavities and they
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followed them into adulthood and those kids that had gum
disease and cavities were the first to show cardiovascular disease
and they could show it also with the measurement of
come into immediate thickness with ultrasound, So they demonstrated that hey,
when you have bad bactery in the mouth and we
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know those contribute to heart disease and diabetes, it shows up.
And this is from twenty nineteen publishing Jama Pediatrics. Right
in twenty twenty that they published too that metabolic disorder,
that diabetes and pre diabetes are first found in kids
that had cavities as a child. So it's for sure
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a marker, right you look at those kids and know
they're the ones who are going to have the problems later. Well,
then demark comes along. Now in Finland, healthcare is regional,
so there's different regions that actually do slightly different things,
which makes it perfect for research. I mean it's all
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one group, ethnic group, but having different treatments done. I mean,
you can't ask for anything better than that, right, But
then it comes Denmark again, an ethnic group, same culture,
and they have millions of people, and so they could
go look at it, and they followed over half a
million for a long period of time, and again those
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who had had cavities and gum disease were also first
to end up with type two diabetes and then over
half a million again with adult cardiovascular disease. And the
thing that people always think when they look at this,
are these just markers having all this? Is this reflective
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of maybe poverty or something else that you might see.
The answer is no, it really is more reflective of
the fact that you're looking at oral microbiome. That's what
we call disbiotic guests, full of pathogens to produce all
these inflammatory products that not just caused cavities, but they
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affect the whole body, something we've known since the nineteen seventies,
and in fact, there was a famous study done in
the nineteen seventies or they took bacteria from effected heart
valves and gave it to germ free rodents who then
developed cavities because they said, oh look here's a systemic
pathogen that also produces cavities. Now these European countries are
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looking at they have strong health care programs. Right there
is to go to places like Turku, Finland. You don't
have a problem getting a dental appointment. You just simply
go all the clinics they have, like the famous Turku
Dental College. And so it's not a lack of healthcare
that's the key thing. And money does not influence it.
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So these are national healthcare figures like from Denmark, although
education may have a role. And it comes to diet,
the issue there is probably sugar and we know that
sugar has a negative on the oral microbiome and because
of that negative effect, it influences not just the mouth,
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but the whole body in health. And that is something
that's really important because these bacteria they can get to
the whole body. Three major routes that they have that
they can get everywhere. First of all, if you have
gum disease and you look at the pockets, if you
were to take all those gummy pockets and spread them out,
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they'd be about the size that pall meter hand. So
you think about your hand and it's spreading bacteria. And
if you had all the skin off of it, it
was all inflame, it'd be so gross and horrible you'd
get a major infection. And that is a key portal
right there. The other route is inflammation is self a
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systemic and these bacteria not only because of systemic inflammation
you know you're luten six and all the other pro
inflammatory issues, but they give off something called extracellular exosomes.
They give up packets of RNA, DNA and protein that
tells the body it has inflammation. That says you have
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infection somewhere in your body. So the whole body responds.
So these metabolites too, can be negative throughout the entire body,
as we see with Parkinson's disease. Right the emmadisol appropriate
eight and third is you swallow about a leader leader
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half of sliva day, and when you do that, you're
swallowing maybe one hundred billion bacteria. But we do know
if you have gum infection, you swallow up to ten
billion of one bad bacteria alone, ten billion, and that
one becauses leaky gut. That's someone that bades the liver
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first and then goes to the panchreous that's the one
because of the leaky blood brain barrier. That's the one
because of the leaky placential barrier. That's the one that
breaks down the junctions between your cells, the tight junctions.
It produces an enzyme called ginger pain. That is the
enzyme you find in brains of people with Alzheimer's disease.
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It's the one that causes the microglida to get overactivated
and you see the amoid beta plaque being deposited. You
can trace all these things to ginger pain. In ginger pain,
by the way, that pretty enzyme attacks insulin receptors in
your muscle, in your liver, in your fat cells, you
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lose your insulin receptors. It's broken down due to that
one bacterial product. So you know, when we think about this,
we don't want those bacteria being passed on from mother
to child. So when we look a situations like you know,
the oral microbiome and cavities and gum disease, we know
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that now if you look under the gum into the
pockets around the teeth, that the bacteria there to come
from the parents, and you can end up having a
mother and father give the bacteria of gum disease to
their kids that now has been shown associated in many
studies with all these systemic illnesses.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
All right, we got more ahead with doctor Cannon and
we're talking about the oral microbiome and how it's so
important even before before someone is born. This is hell
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doctor Adam Brockman. I got doctor Mark Cannon still with us.
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And doctor Cannon. We we've been talking about xylotol being
so important in this We dropped the mention earlier, and
everybody's heard about the gun microbiome by now. We covered
on the show quite often. So let's let's point up north.
We'll talk about the nose in the mouth together. And
I want you to just kind of touch on this
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and why why xylotol fits into this conversation.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Yes, and there is so much. He could talk about
xylotol for a very long time. But xylotol is a
naturally carrying five carbon shorter. I mean it's found in
lot fruits and vestables plum have a lot, for instance.
But it's also produced by the body. Your liver produces
most considerably five grams a day, but probably closer to
fifteen grams of xylotol from anytime your bleacher gets high,
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you start turning into glucose into xylotol. That's well documented.
In the liver, it maybe hypothetically protective mechanism of the liver,
but is considered a pre biotic because what it does
is it really inhibits the bad bacteria. Let's first talk
about the nose on this, because the nose is an
important gateways and nasal gateway, and what it does in
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the nose is that changes the airway surface liquid in
the nose. It makes it so that your body can
kill off the bad bacteria more easily. And it's a
decoy for law viruses. So law viruses, like firsten the
law of the coronaviruses cannot attach to your cells in
the presence of xylotol. They try to attach to forcing
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the cell that they actually instead attached to xylotol. Wonderful
decoy for viruses. Right, improves the killing a lot of
bad bacteria like staff areas, Pseudomonis and Virginosa. And in
the mouth it actually inhibits the bad bacteria that produce
cavities because they take it up thinking it is sugar
glucose and it isn't. And they can't use it. It's
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a futile metabolism. They end up actually decreasing in numbers.
They can't produce the biofilm that they would produce. This
has been well documented in so many all sides, but
the most important one recently, the big one has been
what it's called the Peepax trial. Have a Malawi with
about ten thousand women in it, pregnant women that were
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separated into two groups randomly, one belonging to the xylotol
gum group and the other belonging to just no gum
otherwise they're exactly the same. And the ones that chewed
the xylotol gum twice a day had a big decrease
in the number of premature birth and low birth weight
baby and almost in miscarriages that came very close statistically
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to miscarriage. And the kids actually that were born that
way had fewer feeding issues. That's one of the things
that was noticed in the study. In the meanwhile, now
they're going back to Malawi, you're looking at the development
of these children, and the therea is that maybe these
kids who are better nurished because those islot on my
mom's head were better developmentally to neurodevelopmentally, so there's no
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negative aspects to the xylotol. The xylotol, like I said,
it cuts back on cavities. It can help remineralize the teeth.
It is as effective as a sealant program in any
of the schools. And this is very important because it's
so easy to implement. Now. We already have in place
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in healthcare everything we need to implement this. We already
have school nurses in school. We could do a xylotol
gum chewing program, which they have done before, and they
always stopped because it was every time funded as a study,
so that we do for two or three years after
the funds were done, they stopped because of no more money.
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And what we have to do now is say, okay,
enough studies, let's just go ahead and implement it in
the schools like they have at Finland. And the kids
being going into the military in Finland have one third
the cavities of the kids going in the military in
the United States. So there's going to be some reasoning
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behind all this, right, So let's go ahead and talk
about that. Because xilotol actually helps remineralize two, which is
so important. So it works in the nose. It has
been shown to work with things like ear infections, which
is one of the main reasons it was brought into
the United States is to work on reducing air infection.
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There was has been a little bit of negative publicity
on xylotol, and back in twenty twenty four a study
firm Wakowski and All was released. It's an interesting study
coming out of old blood samples that were stored at
the Cleveland Clinic, where they showed that in their study
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that people who had higher amounts of xylotol the blood
were more likely to have cardiovascular problems later. But this
is kind of misleading because all these people that were
in the study when their blood was strong, they were fasting,
so none of this was the dietary xylotol. This was
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all endogenous slotol. Well wait a second, if we just
say if you have higher levels of blood sugar, your
xylotol will go up. Yeah, they get really high higher
levels of glucose in the blood. You're a birth all
levels will go up because that's how the body gets
rid of it used nicolo chronic pathway. So by definition,
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all those individuals and they could not go back to
the records to check this or not. All these individuals
probably had metaphylic dis a steward pre diabetics or diabetics,
which right there alone what caused that issue. And so
finally on that when they did do a bola study,
they did what would be equivalent of drinking thirty cans
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of monster ultras into I'm sorry, fifteen cans in two minutes,
which is so unrealistic.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And so we've been talking about the
benefits of xylotol, and that loops loops me right back
into a conversation I have often on the show, and
that's the benefit of clear nasal sprays in the spried
dental defense system that are both powered by xylotol. Well,
doctor Canaon, we got to take a short break. When
we come back, I want to just get your practical
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checklist for families and uh and maybe maybe just one
thing that you can leave our listeners with. He'll talk America.
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I'm doctor Adam Brockman, and we're back for our final
few minutes this hour with doctor Mark Cannon. He's a
professor at Northwestern's Fineberg School of Medicine and attending pediatric
dentist at Lori Children's Hospital in Chicago. Doctor Canon, I'll
give you the final word today and if any family's
listening right now and once a wants some practical a
(41:51):
takeaway or or something that you really think is important
for them to understand. Uh, let's go ahead and end
on that note.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Well, just three things as I have a short period
of time. Number one is during pregnancy. Dental carry during
pregnancy is perfectly safe. Make sure that you have someone
in the family who is pregnant that they are seeing
their dentists. They should be absolutely checked also for pregnancy
outs at sleep apnea. In some studies it could be
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up to forty five percent of women can have sleep
apna during a period of their pregnancy. The other thing
is testing. There are salivary tests that are available that
will actually look for the pathogens. When you see your dentists.
If there is an issue with gum disease, look into
salivary testing. Try to stay away from the microplastics as
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much as possible. Doctor Brockman did not mention this, but
when you've actually done research with the issue with microplastics,
and the other thing I have to say is look
for airway problems not just in during pregnancy, but also
in children. Obstruct sleep apnea is common in adults. Up
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to thirty percent or forty percent of adults will have
obstructive sleep apna. Sometimes personally, my younger brother died of
sleep apnea when he was fifty nine years old. This
is something to be very concerned about. And kids twenty
five to thirty percent will have some sleep disturbed breathing,
but use xilotol. Xylotol will help prevent cavities, it will
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help prevent gum disease. It will be useful for all
these things. And this is my final thing. General Nutrition publishes.
It's from our National Health and Nutrition Examination survey. He
followed over fifty thousand elderly individuals in the United States
for nineteen years and they then compared that list to
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the National Death Index. And doctor Brockman, is this not
shocking people who take a probiotic prebiotic or symbiotic and
silot so prebiotic thehead half the rate of cardiovascular deaths unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
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Hello. Hello. Suppose I told you that a cavity in
a four year old carries information about that child's arteries
at age forty. You'd be right to push back. That
sounds like a stretch, except that two research groups, one
in Finland and one in Denmark, have now followed people
long enough to actually test it. The Danish study alone
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included more than a half a million people, and what
they failed is that childhood oral disease tracks with adult
heart disease in adult diabetes. Now, if you're just settling
in with us, welcome to Health Talk America. I'm doctor
Adam Brockman, and I want you to sit with that
opening for a second because it's not a throwaway line.
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It's going to be the conversation this entire hour. And
I'll tell you right now where this hour is actually
going to take us, not just to the four year
old with the cavity, but further back, before the teeth,
before the birth. We're going to start with the mother.
And here's why we spend so much of our lives
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treating the mouth like it's a separate appliance, something we
brush something we've lost when we remember, and something we
hand off to the dentist twice a year and otherwise ignore.
But the mouth doesn't start empty. A baby is not
born into a sterile world. A baby is born directly
into an ecosystem, and that very first ecosystem that the
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baby ever meets belongs entirely to the mother. There's a
window researchers call the first thousand days. It runs from
conception to roughly the second birthday, and it is, without exaggeration,
the single most important stretch of biological time. A human
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being ever passes through the immune system is being trained
in that window. The gut lining is maturing, metabolism is
being calibrated. In an entire microble community. We're talking trillions
of organisms that will shape the child's health for decades
is being assembled for the very first time. That assembly
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is not random. It is seated almost entirely by the
people in the household, and overwhelmingly by the mother or
the primary caregiver. And I want you to think about that.
Think about how ordinary, how comple completely unremarkable that seating
looks like in real life, A shared spoon at dinner,
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a pacifier that falls on the floor and gets cleaned
in a parent's mouth before it goes back to the baby,
or tasting the food before you hand it over, just
to check the temperature, a good night kiss. None of
that feels medical. It feels like parenting, the small, the loving,
(04:29):
the thoughtless gestures that every mother makes a hundred times
a day, But every single one of those moments is
a microboal transfer event. The community of bacteria living in
a mother's mouth becomes to a very real and measurable extent,
that's starting community in her child's mouth. So ask yourself
(04:54):
the next question, the next obvious question, And I want
to ask that right now. What happened if that starts?
That community that starts isn't a healthy one. The organisms
researchers worry about most in early childhood are called mutan streptococci.
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And here's what we need to know. When a mother
carries high levels of these bacteria in her own saliva,
her child tends to acquire them earlier in life. An
earlier acquisition is tied to dramatically more cavities in early childhood.
That child, in other words, inherits a head start on
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disease before they've ever held a toothbrush. Now layer in
something most people never think about, that pregnancy itself is
hard on the mouth. Hormonal and vascular changes increase gum
inflammation and bleeding, and nausea brings up stomach acid into
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that enamel, and eating patterns they shift towards frequent small snacks, which,
as we'll get to later this hour, is exactly the
wrong kind of exposure for a healthy mouth. Then there's
dry mouth, and tragically, there is very often interrupted dental
care because so many pregnant women have been told and
(06:24):
wrongfully told that dental treatment isn't safe while carrying a baby.
Let's go ahead and kill that myth right now. Cleanings
are safe during pregnancy, and local anesthesia is mostly safe.
Treating an infection is always safer than leaving it untreated
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for nine months. What is not safe is a mother
sitting through an entire pregnancy with an untreated abscess because
somebody gave her bad advice. So here's a tragy in
that pregnancy should be the single best prevention opportunity we get.
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A pregnant woman is in contact with the healthcare system repeatedly,
month after month for the better part of a year.
That's a window we simply do not get again until
a child starts school, and right now, medicine and dentistry
they operate like two separate buildings with two separate insurance systems,
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and mothers fall straight through the gap between them. This
is where the Finnish and Danish research I opened with
becomes so important, because it proves that this isn't a small,
private family by family concern, it's a public health pattern
showing up at populational on a scale. Researchers in Finland
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tracked children for decades into adulthood and found that childhood
signs of oral infection were to cardiovascular risk factors and
too early arterial changes that show up as adults. A
companion study that's tied that same childhood exposure to the
adult metabolic syndrome and we're talking about, you know, eventually
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like diabetes. And then Denmark, with its extraordinary national health
registries confirmed again at scale most researchers can only dream of.
One cohort study, for example, was roughly six hundred and
twenty seven thousand people linking childhood gum disease in severe
cavities to adult to diabetes, and a second study of
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nearly was five hundred and sixty eight thousand people linked
childhood oral disease to adult cardiovascular disease. That's half a
million people, and that's twice over. So we know that
pattern Holts. And here's the detail I want you to
actually carry with you this entire hour because it changes
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everything about how we should be thinking about a mother's
role in all of this. It wasn't one bad dental
visit that predicted adult disease. It was this trajectory over childhood,
whether that oral health got better, stayed the same, or
got worse year after year, Which means the story doesn't
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really begin with the four year old in the cavity.
It begins earlier still, with the ecosystem of a mother
that she hands to her child before that child's first
tooth ever breaks through the gums. This is a generational story,
and unlike genetics, it's a story a family can actually rewrite.
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That's exactly why this hour I've brought in a guest
who has spent forty years making this argument from the
inside of pediatric dentistry. It's doctor Mark Cannon, and he's
a professor at Northwestern Universe Ste's Feinberg School of Medicine
and an attending pediatric dentist at Laurie the Children's Hospital
(10:07):
in Chicago, and he's going to walk us through why
the fight against adult chronic disease may start before a
baby even has teeth, and how a mother's mouth becomes
her child's mouth, how the food system feeds that inheritance further.
And yes, we're going to get into the nose as well,
(10:31):
the plate you eat your dinner off of, and a
few surprising tools that can actually interrupt this cycle in
real time. So when you stay with us, when we
come back, doctor Cannon joins me, and we start exactly
where every good story about a child's health should start,
with the mother. Health Talk America continues in just a minute.
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dot com. And before the break, I tease something that
sounds almost too strange to be true, and that's that
a child's cavity might be telling us something about their heart.
Forty years down the road. I also teased, I have
a great guest joining me this hour to discuss this
topic in further detail. And joining me today is doctor
(12:59):
Mark Cannon. He's a professor at Lori Children's Hospital of
Chicago in Northwestern University's Fineberg School of Medicine, and doctor
Cannon has spent four decades teaching that the mouth isn't
a side room off the body, It's the front door.
Doctor Cannon. Welcome to Health Talk America. How are you today?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Well, I am fine, and thank you so much for
having me on, because obviously this is something I'm very
passionate about. It's been part of my life for decades.
Because we don't have time to talk about all this,
but I started off as in microbiology as a research
assistant working in a microbiology lab and back and I'm
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telling you, seventy four seventy five, we knew that these
bacteria were involved with much more than just the mouth.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And this is gonna be a great conversation, doctor Cannon.
I want to start somewhere unusual in what most parents
their thought process when thinking about the dentist. And that's
before a child even has teeth, before the child is
even born. So, doctor Cannon, why does a pediatric dentist
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care about pregnancy.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Well, because babies, they're not born into a sterile world.
They come into this ecosystem. They're coming into a type
of evolutionary biology that has been with us since we
develop as a species. We develop with our microbiome, with
the bacteria, and so when babies come in, they pick
up the bacteria. Mostly the vast majority actually come from
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the mother. I mean they come from the birthing process.
And of course there's a research even showing that the
placenta may not be sterile at all, but maybe most
of can to the mother's world microbiome. These bacteria they
get from the mother. If they're beneficial, that's great, but
if the mother has issues, then it's not so great.
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And we can see how law this can happen. Just
because of the sharing of utensils, that will happen. And
of course when you have a baby, what do you
want to do. You want to hug the baby, want
to kiss a baby. I have six grandkids. I absolutely
enjoy being with them so much. But you have a
law of contact, and every study has shown that you
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share bacteria within a family. Good bacteria and bad bacteria.
So if they start off with a bad one, then
they have a head start on disease. And this is
what we're really concerned about. We're concerned that they end
up having this head start on disease. And this is
a relationship that becomes so important, and this is something
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we're in dentistry. We've been involved with this relationship for
a long time. We have studies that go back many
decades showing if you ended, if you intervene early on
in maternal healthcare with good preventive dentistry, and you reduce
the number of cavities in the mother, that has an
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influence on that child's oral health for a very very
long time, at least nineteen years, because that's when they
would age out the research projects. But now, because we
know so many of these bacteria, including ones that caust cavities,
are so involved with systemic health issues like oral cancer strokes.
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Oh wow, there's a certain cavity producing bacteria, if it
has a certain gene, you're fifteen times more likely to
have fifteen times more likely to have a deep cerebel stroke.
All the studies are incredible. If you're missing teeth due
to to dental disease, you're four times more likely to
have cardiovascular disease. These ratios, these pods ratios, and later
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the hazard ratio for fatality between oral disease and the
oral and between oral disease and systemic disease, those are overwhelming,
including now anxiety, depression, and Parkinson's disease because the same cavity,
that the same bacteria that causes cavities is also associated
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with changes in the gut that can lead to symptoms
of Parkinson's disease. And that's well documented. That's why it
is so important.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, this is an important conversation, and I mentioned this
in the opening for the show today and challenge our
listeners to think about how ordinary that seating looks like
in real life. You know, we're talking about a shared spoon,
the drop pacifier that gets clean in a parent's mouth, tasting,
(18:00):
tasting the food before you hand it to baby, you know,
a kiss, all these things that you mentioned, and none
that really feels medical so to speak. It it feels
like it's just parenting. But doctor Canaan, if that starting
that micro that community like you mentioned build on, that's
it's in the mother's hands in it and she's handing over.
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Basically it's not a not a healthy one. Is the
child at risk?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Then well, yeah, this is the problem. The child will
be at risk if the mother does not have a
healthy oral microbiome. And we're going to go a whole
hour in this, right, But if you have bad bacteria
in the mouth, they see the gut. And there's been numerous,
(18:49):
I do mean numerous studies now showing that the oral microbiome,
because the bacteria in the mouth, goes straight back to
the gut and the gastroineurologist like I work with a
pediatric deaths heernurologist out Children's Hospital, and doctor Jeff Brown
would always say, hey, the gi track the gut starts
at the lips because technically it does, right, and so
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you just can't divide the mouth out of that. So
the bacteria here they go down the gut. And they
have done so many studies, excellent animal studies where they
have given these bad bacteria to mice and the first
thing that happens to the mice is to get leaky
gut from these bacteria. The bacteria end up in the
liver where they can affect the whole systemic health. They
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change the immune system. You have a big shift at
the gut bacteria and you get all this inflammation in
the whole body. So the whole thing that leaky gut
is from leaky gambs to begin with, from the mouth.
So this is why dietary consultations are so important too.
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In dentistry, we've always been talking about limit the sugar,
limit the show right, limit the frequencies because the more
often you eat a lot of these sugary sweets, or
how often you drink pop. It's not so much the amount,
but how often you do it that changes the oral microbiome.
Of course, becauses cavities because all that sugar becomes acid.
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It breaks down the teeth over a period of time.
But the main thing is you're changing all of what's
going on with the oral microbiome, which then leads to
changes in the gut microbiol And of course we have pregnancy,
and during pregnancy that's when we have a lot of changes.
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We have a lot of hormonal changes that lead to
vascular changes. There's a lot of edema because of estrogen levels.
The estrogen levels even change the gut microbiome. The oral
microbiome on their own. There are certain bacteria than the
presence of the increased estrogen greatly take off in numbers.
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And course there's a nausea vomiting that can change the
pH in the mouth, that can go on diet changes.
And the crazy thing is you can actually have a
decreased themouth saliva and that decrease changes your protection. You
get from your saliva. Saliva is full of calcium and
phosphase gets full of the good proteins and peptides. And
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because of that, if you have a change in your saliva,
you have a change in a bloral and then gut health.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Well, doctor kna we got a lot more to discuss
this hour, you know, the food system, the nose, and
yes we're even going to get into xylotol before this
hour is up. So folks on which just stick with us.
We are health Talk America. Visit Healthtalkamerica dot com or
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and I will be right back. Welcome back, health Talk America.
(22:22):
Back with you. I'm doctor Adam Brockman and back with
doctor Mark Cannon. He's a professor at Northwestern's Fineberg School
of Medicine, and doctor Cannon. Before the break, we were
talking about the mouth being a gateway, and you were
mentioning the importance of saliva, so I want to just
continue there.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Well, of course saliva is interesting. Of course, it evolved
with us to protect us, and that's why it has
over fifty different proteins and peptides in it that are protective.
There's several of them, like his Satine five that you
can actually get now as a lozenge. I'm kind of
excited to see how that will work long term because
also levels actually determine how much oral health you have
(23:03):
if you're low in like k sitting by to get
more cavities, So all this stuff is interesting. Of Course,
saliva contains nitric oxide too, and I think everyone in
health knows about nitric oxide that since nineteen ninety eight
that's been like a really really big thing, and in
dentistry since about two thousand and four, nitric oxide's been
a big deal. So all those things are things that
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we can measure, and we can talk more about all
that later because I think it's so very important. But
if we look at going back to the cavities like
at age four, which you mentioned earlier. That's from that
finish work that came out of the Turkua region of Finland,
and they followed kids who had had cavities and they
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followed them into adulthood and those kids that had gum
disease and cavities were the first to show cardiovascular disease
and they could show it also with the measurement of
come into immediate thickness with ultrasound, So they demonstrated that hey,
when you have bad bactery in the mouth and we
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know those contribute to heart disease and diabetes, it shows up.
And this is from twenty nineteen publishing Jama Pediatrics. Right
in twenty twenty that they published too that metabolic disorder,
that diabetes and pre diabetes are first found in kids
that had cavities as a child. So it's for sure
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a marker, right you look at those kids and know
they're the ones who are going to have the problems later. Well,
then demark comes along. Now in Finland, healthcare is regional,
so there's different regions that actually do slightly different things,
which makes it perfect for research. I mean it's all
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one group, ethnic group, but having different treatments done. I mean,
you can't ask for anything better than that, right, But
then it comes Denmark again, an ethnic group, same culture,
and they have millions of people, and so they could
go look at it, and they followed over half a
million for a long period of time, and again those
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who had had cavities and gum disease were also first
to end up with type two diabetes and then over
half a million again with adult cardiovascular disease. And the
thing that people always think when they look at this,
are these just markers having all this? Is this reflective
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of maybe poverty or something else that you might see.
The answer is no, it really is more reflective of
the fact that you're looking at oral microbiome. That's what
we call disbiotic guests, full of pathogens to produce all
these inflammatory products that not just caused cavities, but they
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affect the whole body, something we've known since the nineteen seventies,
and in fact, there was a famous study done in
the nineteen seventies or they took bacteria from effected heart
valves and gave it to germ free rodents who then
developed cavities because they said, oh look here's a systemic
pathogen that also produces cavities. Now these European countries are
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looking at they have strong health care programs. Right there
is to go to places like Turku, Finland. You don't
have a problem getting a dental appointment. You just simply
go all the clinics they have, like the famous Turku
Dental College. And so it's not a lack of healthcare
that's the key thing. And money does not influence it.
(26:45):
So these are national healthcare figures like from Denmark, although
education may have a role. And it comes to diet,
the issue there is probably sugar and we know that
sugar has a negative on the oral microbiome and because
of that negative effect, it influences not just the mouth,
(27:09):
but the whole body in health. And that is something
that's really important because these bacteria they can get to
the whole body. Three major routes that they have that
they can get everywhere. First of all, if you have
gum disease and you look at the pockets, if you
were to take all those gummy pockets and spread them out,
(27:30):
they'd be about the size that pall meter hand. So
you think about your hand and it's spreading bacteria. And
if you had all the skin off of it, it
was all inflame, it'd be so gross and horrible you'd
get a major infection. And that is a key portal
right there. The other route is inflammation is self a
(27:51):
systemic and these bacteria not only because of systemic inflammation
you know you're luten six and all the other pro
inflammatory issues, but they give off something called extracellular exosomes.
They give up packets of RNA, DNA and protein that
tells the body it has inflammation. That says you have
(28:16):
infection somewhere in your body. So the whole body responds.
So these metabolites too, can be negative throughout the entire body,
as we see with Parkinson's disease. Right the emmadisol appropriate
eight and third is you swallow about a leader leader
(28:37):
half of sliva day, and when you do that, you're
swallowing maybe one hundred billion bacteria. But we do know
if you have gum infection, you swallow up to ten
billion of one bad bacteria alone, ten billion, and that
one becauses leaky gut. That's someone that bades the liver
(28:59):
first and then goes to the panchreous that's the one
because of the leaky blood brain barrier. That's the one
because of the leaky placential barrier. That's the one that
breaks down the junctions between your cells, the tight junctions.
It produces an enzyme called ginger pain. That is the
enzyme you find in brains of people with Alzheimer's disease.
(29:22):
It's the one that causes the microglida to get overactivated
and you see the amoid beta plaque being deposited. You
can trace all these things to ginger pain. In ginger pain,
by the way, that pretty enzyme attacks insulin receptors in
your muscle, in your liver, in your fat cells, you
(29:45):
lose your insulin receptors. It's broken down due to that
one bacterial product. So you know, when we think about this,
we don't want those bacteria being passed on from mother
to child. So when we look a situations like you know,
the oral microbiome and cavities and gum disease, we know
(30:08):
that now if you look under the gum into the
pockets around the teeth, that the bacteria there to come
from the parents, and you can end up having a
mother and father give the bacteria of gum disease to
their kids that now has been shown associated in many
studies with all these systemic illnesses.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
All right, we got more ahead with doctor Cannon and
we're talking about the oral microbiome and how it's so
important even before before someone is born. This is hell
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Americanholisticcare dot com. Welcome back to Health Talk America. I'm
doctor Adam Brockman. I got doctor Mark Cannon still with us.
(33:26):
And doctor Cannon. We we've been talking about xylotol being
so important in this We dropped the mention earlier, and
everybody's heard about the gun microbiome by now. We covered
on the show quite often. So let's let's point up north.
We'll talk about the nose in the mouth together. And
I want you to just kind of touch on this
(33:47):
and why why xylotol fits into this conversation.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Yes, and there is so much. He could talk about
xylotol for a very long time. But xylotol is a
naturally carrying five carbon shorter. I mean it's found in
lot fruits and vestables plum have a lot, for instance.
But it's also produced by the body. Your liver produces
most considerably five grams a day, but probably closer to
fifteen grams of xylotol from anytime your bleacher gets high,
(34:12):
you start turning into glucose into xylotol. That's well documented.
In the liver, it maybe hypothetically protective mechanism of the liver,
but is considered a pre biotic because what it does
is it really inhibits the bad bacteria. Let's first talk
about the nose on this, because the nose is an
important gateways and nasal gateway, and what it does in
(34:34):
the nose is that changes the airway surface liquid in
the nose. It makes it so that your body can
kill off the bad bacteria more easily. And it's a
decoy for law viruses. So law viruses, like firsten the
law of the coronaviruses cannot attach to your cells in
the presence of xylotol. They try to attach to forcing
(34:56):
the cell that they actually instead attached to xylotol. Wonderful
decoy for viruses. Right, improves the killing a lot of
bad bacteria like staff areas, Pseudomonis and Virginosa. And in
the mouth it actually inhibits the bad bacteria that produce
cavities because they take it up thinking it is sugar
glucose and it isn't. And they can't use it. It's
(35:18):
a futile metabolism. They end up actually decreasing in numbers.
They can't produce the biofilm that they would produce. This
has been well documented in so many all sides, but
the most important one recently, the big one has been
what it's called the Peepax trial. Have a Malawi with
about ten thousand women in it, pregnant women that were
(35:41):
separated into two groups randomly, one belonging to the xylotol
gum group and the other belonging to just no gum
otherwise they're exactly the same. And the ones that chewed
the xylotol gum twice a day had a big decrease
in the number of premature birth and low birth weight
baby and almost in miscarriages that came very close statistically
(36:04):
to miscarriage. And the kids actually that were born that
way had fewer feeding issues. That's one of the things
that was noticed in the study. In the meanwhile, now
they're going back to Malawi, you're looking at the development
of these children, and the therea is that maybe these
kids who are better nurished because those islot on my
mom's head were better developmentally to neurodevelopmentally, so there's no
(36:31):
negative aspects to the xylotol. The xylotol, like I said,
it cuts back on cavities. It can help remineralize the teeth.
It is as effective as a sealant program in any
of the schools. And this is very important because it's
so easy to implement. Now. We already have in place
(36:53):
in healthcare everything we need to implement this. We already
have school nurses in school. We could do a xylotol
gum chewing program, which they have done before, and they
always stopped because it was every time funded as a study,
so that we do for two or three years after
the funds were done, they stopped because of no more money.
(37:16):
And what we have to do now is say, okay,
enough studies, let's just go ahead and implement it in
the schools like they have at Finland. And the kids
being going into the military in Finland have one third
the cavities of the kids going in the military in
the United States. So there's going to be some reasoning
(37:37):
behind all this, right, So let's go ahead and talk
about that. Because xilotol actually helps remineralize two, which is
so important. So it works in the nose. It has
been shown to work with things like ear infections, which
is one of the main reasons it was brought into
the United States is to work on reducing air infection.
(38:01):
There was has been a little bit of negative publicity
on xylotol, and back in twenty twenty four a study
firm Wakowski and All was released. It's an interesting study
coming out of old blood samples that were stored at
the Cleveland Clinic, where they showed that in their study
(38:22):
that people who had higher amounts of xylotol the blood
were more likely to have cardiovascular problems later. But this
is kind of misleading because all these people that were
in the study when their blood was strong, they were fasting,
so none of this was the dietary xylotol. This was
(38:45):
all endogenous slotol. Well wait a second, if we just
say if you have higher levels of blood sugar, your
xylotol will go up. Yeah, they get really high higher
levels of glucose in the blood. You're a birth all
levels will go up because that's how the body gets
rid of it used nicolo chronic pathway. So by definition,
(39:06):
all those individuals and they could not go back to
the records to check this or not. All these individuals
probably had metaphylic dis a steward pre diabetics or diabetics,
which right there alone what caused that issue. And so
finally on that when they did do a bola study,
they did what would be equivalent of drinking thirty cans
(39:29):
of monster ultras into I'm sorry, fifteen cans in two minutes,
which is so unrealistic.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And so we've been talking about the
benefits of xylotol, and that loops loops me right back
into a conversation I have often on the show, and
that's the benefit of clear nasal sprays in the spried
dental defense system that are both powered by xylotol. Well,
doctor Canaon, we got to take a short break. When
we come back, I want to just get your practical
(40:00):
checklist for families and uh and maybe maybe just one
thing that you can leave our listeners with. He'll talk America.
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(41:27):
I'm doctor Adam Brockman, and we're back for our final
few minutes this hour with doctor Mark Cannon. He's a
professor at Northwestern's Fineberg School of Medicine and attending pediatric
dentist at Lori Children's Hospital in Chicago. Doctor Canon, I'll
give you the final word today and if any family's
listening right now and once a wants some practical a
(41:51):
takeaway or or something that you really think is important
for them to understand. Uh, let's go ahead and end
on that note.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Well, just three things as I have a short period
of time. Number one is during pregnancy. Dental carry during
pregnancy is perfectly safe. Make sure that you have someone
in the family who is pregnant that they are seeing
their dentists. They should be absolutely checked also for pregnancy
outs at sleep apnea. In some studies it could be
(42:18):
up to forty five percent of women can have sleep
apna during a period of their pregnancy. The other thing
is testing. There are salivary tests that are available that
will actually look for the pathogens. When you see your dentists.
If there is an issue with gum disease, look into
salivary testing. Try to stay away from the microplastics as
(42:41):
much as possible. Doctor Brockman did not mention this, but
when you've actually done research with the issue with microplastics,
and the other thing I have to say is look
for airway problems not just in during pregnancy, but also
in children. Obstruct sleep apnea is common in adults. Up
(43:03):
to thirty percent or forty percent of adults will have
obstructive sleep apna. Sometimes personally, my younger brother died of
sleep apnea when he was fifty nine years old. This
is something to be very concerned about. And kids twenty
five to thirty percent will have some sleep disturbed breathing,
but use xilotol. Xylotol will help prevent cavities, it will
(43:27):
help prevent gum disease. It will be useful for all
these things. And this is my final thing. General Nutrition publishes.
It's from our National Health and Nutrition Examination survey. He
followed over fifty thousand elderly individuals in the United States
for nineteen years and they then compared that list to
(43:49):
the National Death Index. And doctor Brockman, is this not
shocking people who take a probiotic prebiotic or symbiotic and
silot so prebiotic thehead half the rate of cardiovascular deaths unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Before we let you go, one more mention of our
friends at Clear and Spry. It's available at Clear dot com,
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today about the mouth and nose as a gateway. Is
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the exactly the science behind their xylotol based products for
your mouth and nasal passages. And if today's hour changed
how you think about your family's daily habits, that's a
great place to start putting into practice. That's our hour.
I'm doctor Adam Brockman. This has been Health Talk America
Healthtalkamerica dot com for show notes, research links, and everything
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