Kyle Busch was 41 years old, a two-time NASCAR champion with 63 career wins, and by every visible
measure — a man in his prime. He didn't die on the track. He died in a hospital, within 24 hours of calling an ambulance, from pneumonia that became sepsis. Dr. Bob Martin and Dr. Adam Brockman ask the question nobody in sports media is asking: Why are we mistaking fitness for immunity — and what is that confusion costing us?
measure — a man in his prime. He didn't die on the track. He died in a hospital, within 24 hours of calling an ambulance, from pneumonia that became sepsis. Dr. Bob Martin and Dr. Adam Brockman ask the question nobody in sports media is asking: Why are we mistaking fitness for immunity — and what is that confusion costing us?
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How are you today, doctor Bob.
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I'm doing really well today, Doctor Brockman. I hope you are,
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Speaker 5 (01:35):
Well.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
You know, so today I really want to talk about
a couple of the health headlines this week. And there's
moments in public life that just kind of stop you cold,
doctor Bob. And it's not because they are unexpected. In
the philosophical sense. We all understand, you know, intellectually that
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life is very precious. And so day I want to
start off by talking about the death of Kyle Busch.
He was forty one years old. They had two NASCAR
Cup Series championships. It was sixty three career wins.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
And it was a man.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Who spent the better part of two decades driving machinery
at two hundred plus miles per hour with a very
very great precision and nerve that most of us can't
even even fathom. So this man whose profession demanded that
his body be like a finely tuned machine itself, and
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he needed to have great reaction, great endurance, and great resilience.
So he was a man who, by virtually every conventional
measure of health and vitality, should have decades left ahead
of him. But the report is that he died of pneumonia. Yeah,
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so he didn't die on a track and not in
a crash, not in this dramatic, cinematic and befitting of
this motor sports legend. He died in a hospital from
an infection that started in his LUNs and it progressed
with lightning speed into sepsis. So this was a catastrophic
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you know, its systemic inflammatory response to the body. Sometimes
just cannot survive. And we do know that the day
before he died he called an ambulance. He was calling
up blood and struggling to breathe, and then within twenty
four hours he was gone. So I'm not talking about
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this today, and I want to get your thoughts on
this and not to necessarily sensationalize a tragedy. I'm talking
about this because I believe Kyle Busch's death that carries
this medical in a cultural message that our country needs
to needs to hear and needs to hear urgently, and
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I believe that we need to honor his memory and such,
we need to treat it as this, this moment of
collective grief. Forty one years old, doctor Bob. So the message,
the message today is that physical fitness and immune resilience
are not necessarily the same thing. In America right now,
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we are dangerously confused about that distinction. And so I
want to get I want you to get your opinion
on this matter. It's a physical fitness in your immune system.
Are not always that that same thing.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
It's true, you know, tragic, tragic situation.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Young family, child had a son of eleven, I think,
little little baby, daughter of two, a wife forty one
years young. How does that happen? How does that happen?
And it is the reason why we all should pause
and think about that for a little bit. This guy's really,
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you know, the best champion in his field. He won
more of these races than anybody in history. And I
have treated professional car drivers in the past myself. In fact,
doctor Brockman, we broadcasted this radio show from an Indies
Light which is a different series Indies Light Race up
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in Portland, Oregon. One time, many many years ago and
it was just crazy these people that they loved their racing.
But his death calls into question, you know, the fragility
of our health. You look at this guy, you look
at his history. He's kind of a tall man, forty
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one years young.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
How does he die?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Well, he dies because in my opinion, and I know
there are a lot of doctors who have already weighed
in on this in terms of sort of like armchair quarterbacking,
if you will, But.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
We need to do this.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
We need to have this conversation in order to try
to prevent it in someone else's life in the future.
If they're hearing this conversation between us right now, and
we think it's key.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
And what I want our audience to.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Take away from this is the fact that you have
an individual who went to his doctor two weeks prior
to dying, so he was under medical care for two weeks,
Doctor Brockman, it wasn't one of those things. Well he died,
you know, in a day, and he developed sepsis in
a day. Kyle Busch went to his medical doctor complaining
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of sinuce problems like assign you site or cold like symptoms.
And from everything that I've been able to gather so far.
His medical doctor gave him an antibiotic shot. He shot
him up with antibiotics. And I'm sure that here's the
guy that you know is preparing for the biggest race
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of the year and he's got to go into a
simulator to practice and doesn't want to be, you know,
inconvenienced with any kind of illness, whether it be a
sinus infection, a cold, stomach ache, backache, whatever. Those guys are,
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you know, their mission is to get out there on
the track, and a lot of them, whether their health
is good, bad, or indifferent, do it. And he should
have been hospitalized, actually, and it may have saved his life,
but he wasn't. He probably did something that a lot
of males do at forty one, whether they're racers or
football players or just Joe sixpack. Hey, doc, I got
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to get back to work. What can you do to
get me back to work? And the doctor says, oh, yeah,
I'll fix you right up. Let's get you an antibiotic shot. Unfortunately,
this happens doctor Brockman too many times, most sinus infections,
and this is where his problems started. It started in
his face, it started in his sinuses, most doctors are
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apparently unaware that most sinus problems, most especially chronic.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Ones, and I usually these people have these.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Chronically long term over time, and they put up with it,
and they use affron and they use nason X, and
they use these over the counter things that don't do
anything to address the underlying infection, the breakdown that's actually
going on in the immune system, their diet, their lack
of sleep, the stress they're under the air, they're breathing,
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et cetera. So here you have an individual and you
can check this out. You look it up yourself.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Look it up.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
In males, they talk about warning doctors that when people
come in with sinus infections, please don't start antibiotics immediately.
The vast majority of them have fungal infections, and to
give somebody an antibiotic with a fungal infection just makes
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it worse. So he may have had medical miscare right
from that two week starting point doctor Brockman, in which
he went into his medical doctor's office complaining of a
sinus infection or cold like symptoms in his face as
sinus aarreya. His doctor said, oh, yeah, we'll just bring
out the miracle drug and we'll give you an injection,
(09:40):
you'd be good to go. Well, he took the shot,
was under medical care. I'm not sure what happened, and
I haven't been able to find that anywhere. What happened
between the two weeks that he was under medical care
and having received a antibiotic shot and then all ultimately,
(10:01):
you know, the day before he started coughing up blood,
fainted and eventually had to be transported to the hospital,
which and he died. So somewhere in there something should
have happened didn't happen. Probably a misdiagnosis from the beginning.
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And when I say fungal infections, people need to be
thinking about, all right, well, what do you mean fungal infections, Well,
it could be think about athletes, think about vaginal yeast infections, ringworm,
jocketche nail fungus. These are all in the same category,
and it can get in the nasal cavity. And I
know we're coming up on a break, and I want
to pick this up after the break because this is
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so important, Doctor Brockmann for people to hear.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I agree, So let's just take a shortened break, doctor Bob,
and we'll get right back into this conversation.
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Speaker 3 (12:57):
Before before break, we were talking about the the tragic
death of Kyle Busch at the age of forty one,
leaving behind a young family, and we were we were
talking again about he's he's been under medical care, he's
been to the been to the doctor, had an antibioodic
and uh and you were you were discussing how there
(13:18):
may be something missed here with maybe maybe it was
a fungal infection or you know, some some issue that
that they just didn't catch in time, So I want
you to to go ahead and continue continue your thoughts
that you had right before the break on that.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yes, Doctor Brockban, I think it's so important to discuss
this topic because there are many people listening to the
sound of my voice who have faced this in the past,
and they will face it in the future, and if
they're armed with knowledge and information, perhaps they can dodge
that bullet that Kyle Busch did not. If you're just
tuning into the program, we're talking about a famous NASCAR
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champion with more wins than any of the driver in
the sport, dying at the tender age of forty one,
leaving behind a wife and two beautiful children. A tragic
situation of an individual who starts off with symptoms of sinusitis,
congestion in his nasal cavity, cold like symptoms. He proceeds
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to his medical doctor's office. He receives an antibiotic shot.
Two weeks later, he's dead. How on earth could this
happen to a person in this age, in great shape
with under medical care. Well, it happens because he was
probably misdiagnosed. Now, doctor Brockman and I are talking about
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this because we want people to hear our opinion. Yes,
we are armchair quarterbacking on this, but we need to
do this. We need to have this conversation. This happens
every day, tens of thousands of people, This happens to
across the United States to get misdiagnosed with the bacterial
infection when they really have a fungal infection. Who's saying
that Mayo Clinic is saying that? I mean they knew
(15:04):
about this two plus decades ago, that most sinus problems,
especially if you've been having them for a while, are
fungal infections, not bacterial infections. You don't treat fungal infections
such as what mister Kyle Busch probably had. You don't
treat it by shop shooting him up with an antibiotic
(15:26):
and turning him loose and saying good enough.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
No.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
If you want, you can do samples of the nasal
secretions and determine if it's a fungal or bacterial infection,
and most of the time you're gonna find, as Mayo
Clinic did twenty five plus years ago, that most of
these sinus infections are fungal and you have to come
at them from an anti fungal position. Yes, it's the
(15:51):
same kind of fungal infections that you find in other
conditions that you hear about, you know, toenail, fungus, jockeyhit, ringworm,
vaginal candidiasis, or athletes foot. Yes, those are all fungal
infections that can happen in the sinus area, and it
can cause a congestion within the sinus and can cause
pain and sneezing and everything else. And unless you go
(16:15):
to a doctor who's aware of this and the fact
that it's most likely more times than not a fungal.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Infection, not a bacterial infection.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
If you go to a medical doctor who's completely out
of that source of information, they're just going to give
them standard practice in medicine, which is still a mistake,
to give them antibiotics. And then eventually, unfortunately, the antibiotic
will thrash the immune system because it does it wipes
out all your good bacteria in your gastrointestinal track, which
is where the bulk of your immunity is. So suddenly
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your immune system takes a hit from the antibiotic. When
you have a fungal infection plus antibiotics stoke or make
worse fungal infections.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
So in my.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Opinion, it's very likely that Kyle Busch had a fungal
infection was mistreated. He should have been taking things to
solve that innernasally with clear Rescue nasal spray which has
some escirotic elements involved in it, which helps kill fungal
infections immediately, like oregonal oil and other things. In Clear
(17:17):
Rescue Remedy nasal spray, it's all natural, it has no
side effects, and it helps obliterate both these fungal bacteria,
viral and other allergens that are in that nasal area
trying to take you down.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, doctor Bob, and let's let's continue talking about this
fungal infection aspect. You know, this is some of that
effects tens of millions of Americans, and yet it's one
of the most underdiscussed topics in conventional medicine. You know,
again we're talking about fungal infections, and I don't mean
the obvious ones. I mean that that full spectrum what
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you mentioned, the toenail fungus, the skin, the skin infections,
the air fungal infection, and the oral thrush, vaginal yeast infections, athletes, feet,
and it's just increasingly what I see in practice, this
phenomenon of systemic Candida overgrowth that can drive symptoms ranging
from chronic fatigue to brain fog to persistent digestive distress.
(18:20):
And uh, you know what you mentioned, the clear nasal
spray line, the Clear Rescue Max, all the all those
products are great for that portal of entrigue. And I
also want to discuss some of the real heavyweights of
that natural anti fungal world. And and with that, you
(18:40):
can't not mention a regano oil and oil of regano
it's you're looking at to standardize at least seventy percent.
That's you know, the active compound that's responsible for the
anti macrobal the anti fungal potency in the in the
research on it against candida is genuinely oppressive. There's there's
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multiple clinical studies that have shown it disrupts the fungal
cell membrane and and it it spares the beneficial bacteria
in the in the body, which is is very important.
And that's that's something that pharmaceutical antifungals they just can't
can't do. And and so if we're we're looking this,
so you for topical applications the skin, the nails, the feet.
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You can dilute it in a carrier oil such as
as coconut oil before applying. And so if we're talking
about coconut oil, it deserves its own moment here.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
It contains it contains several of these these medium fatty
acid change that are demonstrating meaningful anti fungal activity in
the in the peer reviewed studies. So again, if we're
attacking this, this systemic candida, this has remarkable effectiveness. So
this is this is something that you can use topically
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and you can also consume it, you know, say one
of two tablespoons daily, and that supports the gut anti
fungal defense simultaneously.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
So and you know, doctor Brockman, the problem today is
that we're hit with too many antibiotics. There's antibiotics in
the meat, there's antibiotics in the water, the traces of
it in the water systems they can't get out. And
then people take antibiotics way too often because that's there's
that standard of practice in medicine. If if anything, if
everything else fails, and you don't know what to do,
prescribe antibiotics. Give them a shot and this is a
(20:30):
tragic situation because that antibiotics shot led to pneumonia. It
had to have led to his pneumonia. Obviously he should
have been hospitalized. And and you know, I'm not saying
it wasn't partly his fault for not paying attention and resting.
And you know, he had to get to the race.
A lot of men will say, hey, I got to
get to work, men and women, I gotta get to work.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
I gotta do this my body.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Oh well, load me up with drugs, doctor, give me,
give me whatever you need to give me.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
I gotta go.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Do you know I got a mortgage chasing me, I
got a car payment chasing me.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
I got kids and a wife. I'm not going to
be down very long.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yeah, I get that, But there was a misdiagnosis from
the beginning. In my opinion, from everything that I've read.
If he'd have had natural care right from the beginning,
the proper natural form of care, which would have been
conservative internasal using the anti fungals like garlic and oregano
and golden seal and various other herbs that are available
in any health food store, this whole problem could have
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been completely avoided and this happens every single day to
many men and women in the United States. And it's
a tragic situation. This ended in tragedy of death. It's
obviously something that led to a bacterial infection which led
to sepsis, which is an overreactive immune system catastrophic reaction.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Absolutely, and Doctor Bob, I want to I want to
touch on just a couple more things with this topic
when we when we come back from break. So we
got to take take just a short minute and we'll
come back and talk about this this Kyle Bush trade
you more. You're listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
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Doctor Bob. Before we get back into this conversation on
Kyle Busch, I want to make another reminder about another
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by Clear. Okay, So, doctor Bob, we were we were
talking about, you know, the strategy that is uh the
death of Kyle Busch. Again, he's forty one years old.
(25:24):
He leaves behind a young family, and doctor Bob, I
want to I want to change gears here and talk
that we built this entire wellness culture that that is
around these these visible markers of health. And we're talking
about muscular definition and cardiovascular output, our body composition and
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these performance metrics that you would see in an elite
athlete like Kyle Busch. We celebrate this in an athlete.
We idolize the physique and we we spend billions of
dollars in billions of hours trying to optimize our health
that we can see, and in doing so, we have
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systemically neglected the health that we cannot see. That the
invisible architecture of the immune system and the inflammatory regulation,
our autonomic balance in our just cellular resistance and resilience
that determines whether your body can fight off a threat
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before it becomes a mortal one. And Kyle Busch was not,
by any appearance a fragile man. And I'm sure that
he had elite athletic training, the kind that produces that
championship level performance that he was accustomed to, and that
comes with a physiological cost that is rarely, if ever
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discussed in sports culture. And my background being in sports medicine,
I understand the intense physical training and that can be
in itself an inflammatory stressor. So you're suppressing the immune
function in the hours, and it becomes days, and it
becomes years, and to get this peak exertion and then cortisol,
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that primary stress hormone is chronically elevated in these high
performance athletes that are operating at their near maximum capacity
in the cortisol if it goes on for too long.
It suppresses that immune system by design. And then you
add in a sleep disruption of a racing schedule to travel,
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the constant neurological activation of the competition, and then you
have that profile that beneath the surface carries a significant
risk to the immune system and inflammatory mark workers throughout
throughout the body. And I think that is you know,
I'm not necessarily speculating about the specifics of Kyle Busch's
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health history. I did not treat him, I did not
have his medical records. But what I'm saying is that
the pattern this elite performer in his early forties, apparently healthy,
that was struck down with the sudden catastrophic severity by
what we're calling that that common infection and being pneumonia.
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It's not as as I guess, anomalist as it as
it appears to be. It is in fact a pattern,
a pattern, uh that integrative and functional medicine practitioners have
been observing and warned about for years.
Speaker 10 (28:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah, it's it shows the limitations of medical care. You know,
everybody thinks, well, you know, uh, my medical doctor will
save the day.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Look, Kyle Busch.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Was under medical care from the get go, and it
was very likely a misdiagnosis. To start giving him an
antibiotic when he had a fungal infection was a monumental
error which led to pneumonia. And this sepsis where the
body's immune system response overwhelms the kidneys, the lungs and
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things start unraveling very quickly.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
And this is really a.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Call to action for people to understand that there are
other forms of healthcare aside from drugs and surgery. Now,
antibiotics can be life saving drugs and they save lives
every single day, but when they're used inappropriately or not
used efficaciously in an individual, in my opinion, this is
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just my opinion based on everything that I've been able
to discover and also my experience as a physician over
the years treating lots and lots of sinus related conditions, pneumonia, bronchitis, asthma,
and the many patients I've seen. It has taught me
that many of the people that landed on my doorstep
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as a physician were already down that path of medicine,
had already tried the antibiotics, they got worse, They tried
the steroids, they got worse, or some other quick fix response,
which sometimes you need to slow stuff down until you
can get it under control. But in this case, it
was a tragic event that ultimately led to the death
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of an individual. Now you said you said earlier, Doctor Buckner,
that people that race cars are elite and elite athletes.
They are they have to have incredible eye to hand coordination.
Do you ever see one this obese. I'd never seen
one that's obese. In fact, when they had these these
athletic games where they went out and they had, you know,
a baseball player, a football player, a hockey player, and
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a race car driver compete against each other.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Often the race car drivers won.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Doctor Bob, we got taken just a short break. When
we come back, I do want to talk about pneumonia briefly,
and we'll.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Be right back.
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Okay, doctor Bob.
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Before the break, I was saying, I want to talk
about pneumonia a little bit, a little bit further. And
pneumonia kills approximately fifty thousand Americans per year. And sepsis,
the systemic inflammatory cascade that claimed Kyle Busch tragically, it
kills approximately two hundred and seventy thousand Americans annually, So
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in that it's considered that thirdly because of death in
US hospitals, And yet it receives a fraction of the
public health attention and the urgency of these more ramatic
type of diagnosis. So we don't run charity races for
sepsis awareness, So we don't see celebrity fundraising campaigns for
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pneumonia prevention. We treat these deaths as somewhat less significant
unless it's your loved one, as though dying of an
infection in this era of modern medicine is almost embarrassing
rather than a call a call to action, or hey,
(35:32):
let's spotlight this a little bit further. Intel somebody in
the stature of Kyle Busch at the age of forty
one passes away.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
What do you think on.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
That, Well, I think you're talking to somebody who's had
pneumonia three times growing up. Back then, of course I
did not understand, because I hadn't had any training yet,
that I probably was hospitalized with pneumonia for the very
same thing that Kyle Busch had. I probably was treated
with an antibiotic, which is standard practice still today. Doctors
(36:04):
handed out like candy still today, even though it's an
important drug, it's a miracle drug, but it's used inappropriately
and unjudiciously. So, you know, reflecting back on my childhood,
that's how I got hospitalized. I should have been treated
for a fungal infection, which most sinus problems begin with
a fungal infection. And if you don't believe me, look
(36:26):
at MAO clinic. So let's now quantumly move from here
to the misdiagnosis that he had started with a fungal infection,
was treated with an antibiotic which just makes a fungal infection worse,
leads to pneumonia, which leads to sepsis, and then he
goes to the you know, and he's got sepsis. Had
this been caught in time and they knew he had sepsis,
(36:48):
he could have been treated properly even for the sepsis,
and it may have saved his life. By introducing intravenous,
high dose, slow drip vitamin C along with vitamin B
one thigh, along with hydro cortisone no combination. You can
read about it, read about it for yourself, that combination
when you could save people's lives, and it's not being
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done in hospitals.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Why, I don't know. Who knows.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
We know there's three hundred and fifty thousand deaths of
stepsis every single year. Happens mostly to older people because
you're just not as virile as you were and your
immune system can can fade. That's why it's so odd
when you read or hear about an athlete, an elead athlete,
prime of his life, dying with this disease. And again
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I want to circle back, this was totally unnecessary. And again,
as much as information that I've been able to gather.
You've been able to gather doctor Brockman, and the experience
we've had as doctors with patients, we know this should
not have happened had he had some functional medical care,
a doctor that knows integrative medicine, a doctor who understands
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and can recognize that most sinus problems are not bacterial logic,
they're almost always fungal.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Especially if you check the.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
Secretions coming out of their nose and then you stop
your antibiotic prescription and shots and you move right to
an anti fungal program. This gentleman's life would have been
saved most likely.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
I agree, And let me be direct.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
You know your your immune system is not some type
of a passive shield. It's this dynamic It's a living,
metabolically demanding system that requires specific inputs to maintain maintains
its vitality. So again, you know, mentioning sleep in that
(38:41):
genuine restorative sleep is perhaps one of the most the
single most powerful immune modulating type of system that is
available to you, and it's and it's free. But I
also want to talk about micronutrient sufficiency. And again I'm
talking about that adequate vitamin D the zinc, the magnesium,
(39:04):
and you mentioned vitamin C, and these are it's foundational
to immune cell production in function. So so chronic psychological
or or or mechanical stress that's put on the body,
it's immunosuppressive at every level, and that activates again cortisol
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that it selectively starts to downregulate exactly the cellular immune
response that's needed to fight off things like respiratory infections.
And then you add in gut health and the diversity
and the vitality of your gut microbiome. And now now
you're talking about something that's that tied together is understood
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to be a primary determination of your systemic immune function.
So talking about we need to take another another short
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And we've been today we've been talking.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
About Kyle Busch's death, and it doesn't necessarily change the
conversation that we've brought for years. And it's not necessarily
because his story is unique, tragically it's it's not, but
because his stature, his youth, and the shocking speed of
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his decline make it impossible to dismiss with the usual
platitudes about underlying conditions. And it could happen to anyone,
and yes, it can happen to anyone, and that is
precisely the point of today's conversation, Doctor Bob Exactly.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
This is going to help somebody along the line. And
this radio show has provided this kind of information for
thirty years. That's what we do. It's our passion, it's
our goal, it's our mission, and we love it. We
think it's our calling actually, and we look forward to it.
But you're right, when you have a person like Kyle
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Busch who is a champion NASCAR driver, you don't have
to be a NASCAR friend to pick up on this story.
You don't have to be you know, forty one years
of age. You could be sixty five or you could
be twenty. This should still be significant to you in
terms of a call to action. When you have a
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sinus infection and you are it's not going away, and
you say, okay, well I'll go to the only healing
art there is on the planet. I'll see my medical doctor.
Because the only treatment is drugs and more drugs. There's
where you make your first possible fatal mistake. Most of
these things with sinuses are benign, they're self limiting. It
could be handled safely and naturally. And had he walked
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into my office with the sinus infection, I can tell
you this, he would have been recommended clears rescue nasal spray.
I would have put him on a large dose of
garlic oil, golden seal, oregano oil, recommended rest, hydration, sunlight,
and lowering his stress. And I'm telling you what, I've
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run into people just like Kyle Bush that have gotten
over exactly what he got over. Unfortunately, in my opinion,
he got the wrong treatment and for the wrong condition,
and it spun out out of control into pneumonia, which
then led to sepsis, which then caused his death. So
just remember, folks, medical care is very limited, and in
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this case it let Kyle Busch and his.
Speaker 6 (44:45):
Family and many other people down.
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Yeah, and rest in peace, Kyle.
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least we can do is learn from the lesson that
this passing is have less left us with as so, folks,
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I'm doing really well today, Doctor Brockman. I hope you are,
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Well.
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You know, so today I really want to talk about
a couple of the health headlines this week. And there's
moments in public life that just kind of stop you cold,
doctor Bob. And it's not because they are unexpected. In
the philosophical sense. We all understand, you know, intellectually that
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life is very precious. And so day I want to
start off by talking about the death of Kyle Busch.
He was forty one years old. They had two NASCAR
Cup Series championships. It was sixty three career wins.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
And it was a man.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Who spent the better part of two decades driving machinery
at two hundred plus miles per hour with a very
very great precision and nerve that most of us can't
even even fathom. So this man whose profession demanded that
his body be like a finely tuned machine itself, and
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he needed to have great reaction, great endurance, and great resilience.
So he was a man who, by virtually every conventional
measure of health and vitality, should have decades left ahead
of him. But the report is that he died of pneumonia. Yeah,
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so he didn't die on a track and not in
a crash, not in this dramatic, cinematic and befitting of
this motor sports legend. He died in a hospital from
an infection that started in his LUNs and it progressed
with lightning speed into sepsis. So this was a catastrophic
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you know, its systemic inflammatory response to the body. Sometimes
just cannot survive. And we do know that the day
before he died he called an ambulance. He was calling
up blood and struggling to breathe, and then within twenty
four hours he was gone. So I'm not talking about
(03:47):
this today, and I want to get your thoughts on
this and not to necessarily sensationalize a tragedy. I'm talking
about this because I believe Kyle Busch's death that carries
this medical in a cultural message that our country needs
to needs to hear and needs to hear urgently, and
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I believe that we need to honor his memory and such,
we need to treat it as this, this moment of
collective grief. Forty one years old, doctor Bob. So the message,
the message today is that physical fitness and immune resilience
are not necessarily the same thing. In America right now,
(04:33):
we are dangerously confused about that distinction. And so I
want to get I want you to get your opinion
on this matter. It's a physical fitness in your immune system.
Are not always that that same thing.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
It's true, you know, tragic, tragic situation.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Young family, child had a son of eleven, I think,
little little baby, daughter of two, a wife forty one
years young. How does that happen? How does that happen?
And it is the reason why we all should pause
and think about that for a little bit. This guy's really,
(05:17):
you know, the best champion in his field. He won
more of these races than anybody in history. And I
have treated professional car drivers in the past myself. In fact,
doctor Brockman, we broadcasted this radio show from an Indies
Light which is a different series Indies Light Race up
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in Portland, Oregon. One time, many many years ago and
it was just crazy these people that they loved their racing.
But his death calls into question, you know, the fragility
of our health. You look at this guy, you look
at his history. He's kind of a tall man, forty
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one years young.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
How does he die?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Well, he dies because in my opinion, and I know
there are a lot of doctors who have already weighed
in on this in terms of sort of like armchair quarterbacking,
if you will, But.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
We need to do this.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
We need to have this conversation in order to try
to prevent it in someone else's life in the future.
If they're hearing this conversation between us right now, and
we think it's key.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
And what I want our audience to.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Take away from this is the fact that you have
an individual who went to his doctor two weeks prior
to dying, so he was under medical care for two weeks,
Doctor Brockman, it wasn't one of those things. Well he died,
you know, in a day, and he developed sepsis in
a day. Kyle Busch went to his medical doctor complaining
(06:56):
of sinuce problems like assign you site or cold like symptoms.
And from everything that I've been able to gather so far.
His medical doctor gave him an antibiotic shot. He shot
him up with antibiotics. And I'm sure that here's the
guy that you know is preparing for the biggest race
(07:17):
of the year and he's got to go into a
simulator to practice and doesn't want to be, you know,
inconvenienced with any kind of illness, whether it be a
sinus infection, a cold, stomach ache, backache, whatever. Those guys are,
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you know, their mission is to get out there on
the track, and a lot of them, whether their health
is good, bad, or indifferent, do it. And he should
have been hospitalized, actually, and it may have saved his life,
but he wasn't. He probably did something that a lot
of males do at forty one, whether they're racers or
football players or just Joe sixpack. Hey, doc, I got
(08:00):
to get back to work. What can you do to
get me back to work? And the doctor says, oh, yeah,
I'll fix you right up. Let's get you an antibiotic shot. Unfortunately,
this happens doctor Brockman too many times, most sinus infections,
and this is where his problems started. It started in
his face, it started in his sinuses, most doctors are
(08:24):
apparently unaware that most sinus problems, most especially chronic.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Ones, and I usually these people have these.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Chronically long term over time, and they put up with it,
and they use affron and they use nason X, and
they use these over the counter things that don't do
anything to address the underlying infection, the breakdown that's actually
going on in the immune system, their diet, their lack
of sleep, the stress they're under the air, they're breathing,
(08:51):
et cetera. So here you have an individual and you
can check this out. You look it up yourself.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Look it up.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
In males, they talk about warning doctors that when people
come in with sinus infections, please don't start antibiotics immediately.
The vast majority of them have fungal infections, and to
give somebody an antibiotic with a fungal infection just makes
(09:19):
it worse. So he may have had medical miscare right
from that two week starting point doctor Brockman, in which
he went into his medical doctor's office complaining of a
sinus infection or cold like symptoms in his face as
sinus aarreya. His doctor said, oh, yeah, we'll just bring
out the miracle drug and we'll give you an injection,
(09:40):
you'd be good to go. Well, he took the shot,
was under medical care. I'm not sure what happened, and
I haven't been able to find that anywhere. What happened
between the two weeks that he was under medical care
and having received a antibiotic shot and then all ultimately,
(10:01):
you know, the day before he started coughing up blood,
fainted and eventually had to be transported to the hospital,
which and he died. So somewhere in there something should
have happened didn't happen. Probably a misdiagnosis from the beginning.
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And when I say fungal infections, people need to be
thinking about, all right, well, what do you mean fungal infections, Well,
it could be think about athletes, think about vaginal yeast infections, ringworm,
jocketche nail fungus. These are all in the same category,
and it can get in the nasal cavity. And I
know we're coming up on a break, and I want
to pick this up after the break because this is
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so important, Doctor Brockmann for people to hear.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I agree, So let's just take a shortened break, doctor Bob,
and we'll get right back into this conversation.
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Before before break, we were talking about the the tragic
death of Kyle Busch at the age of forty one,
leaving behind a young family, and we were we were
talking again about he's he's been under medical care, he's
been to the been to the doctor, had an antibioodic
and uh and you were you were discussing how there
(13:18):
may be something missed here with maybe maybe it was
a fungal infection or you know, some some issue that
that they just didn't catch in time, So I want
you to to go ahead and continue continue your thoughts
that you had right before the break on that.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yes, Doctor Brockban, I think it's so important to discuss
this topic because there are many people listening to the
sound of my voice who have faced this in the past,
and they will face it in the future, and if
they're armed with knowledge and information, perhaps they can dodge
that bullet that Kyle Busch did not. If you're just
tuning into the program, we're talking about a famous NASCAR
(13:57):
champion with more wins than any of the driver in
the sport, dying at the tender age of forty one,
leaving behind a wife and two beautiful children. A tragic
situation of an individual who starts off with symptoms of sinusitis,
congestion in his nasal cavity, cold like symptoms. He proceeds
(14:19):
to his medical doctor's office. He receives an antibiotic shot.
Two weeks later, he's dead. How on earth could this
happen to a person in this age, in great shape
with under medical care. Well, it happens because he was
probably misdiagnosed. Now, doctor Brockman and I are talking about
(14:41):
this because we want people to hear our opinion. Yes,
we are armchair quarterbacking on this, but we need to
do this. We need to have this conversation. This happens
every day, tens of thousands of people, This happens to
across the United States to get misdiagnosed with the bacterial
infection when they really have a fungal infection. Who's saying
that Mayo Clinic is saying that? I mean they knew
(15:04):
about this two plus decades ago, that most sinus problems,
especially if you've been having them for a while, are
fungal infections, not bacterial infections. You don't treat fungal infections
such as what mister Kyle Busch probably had. You don't
treat it by shop shooting him up with an antibiotic
(15:26):
and turning him loose and saying good enough.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
No.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
If you want, you can do samples of the nasal
secretions and determine if it's a fungal or bacterial infection,
and most of the time you're gonna find, as Mayo
Clinic did twenty five plus years ago, that most of
these sinus infections are fungal and you have to come
at them from an anti fungal position. Yes, it's the
(15:51):
same kind of fungal infections that you find in other
conditions that you hear about, you know, toenail, fungus, jockeyhit, ringworm,
vaginal candidiasis, or athletes foot. Yes, those are all fungal
infections that can happen in the sinus area, and it
can cause a congestion within the sinus and can cause
pain and sneezing and everything else. And unless you go
(16:15):
to a doctor who's aware of this and the fact
that it's most likely more times than not a fungal.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Infection, not a bacterial infection.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
If you go to a medical doctor who's completely out
of that source of information, they're just going to give
them standard practice in medicine, which is still a mistake,
to give them antibiotics. And then eventually, unfortunately, the antibiotic
will thrash the immune system because it does it wipes
out all your good bacteria in your gastrointestinal track, which
is where the bulk of your immunity is. So suddenly
(16:45):
your immune system takes a hit from the antibiotic. When
you have a fungal infection plus antibiotics stoke or make
worse fungal infections.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
So in my.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Opinion, it's very likely that Kyle Busch had a fungal
infection was mistreated. He should have been taking things to
solve that innernasally with clear Rescue nasal spray which has
some escirotic elements involved in it, which helps kill fungal
infections immediately, like oregonal oil and other things. In Clear
(17:17):
Rescue Remedy nasal spray, it's all natural, it has no
side effects, and it helps obliterate both these fungal bacteria,
viral and other allergens that are in that nasal area
trying to take you down.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, doctor Bob, and let's let's continue talking about this
fungal infection aspect. You know, this is some of that
effects tens of millions of Americans, and yet it's one
of the most underdiscussed topics in conventional medicine. You know,
again we're talking about fungal infections, and I don't mean
the obvious ones. I mean that that full spectrum what
(17:54):
you mentioned, the toenail fungus, the skin, the skin infections,
the air fungal infection, and the oral thrush, vaginal yeast infections, athletes, feet,
and it's just increasingly what I see in practice, this
phenomenon of systemic Candida overgrowth that can drive symptoms ranging
from chronic fatigue to brain fog to persistent digestive distress.
(18:20):
And uh, you know what you mentioned, the clear nasal
spray line, the Clear Rescue Max, all the all those
products are great for that portal of entrigue. And I
also want to discuss some of the real heavyweights of
that natural anti fungal world. And and with that, you
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can't not mention a regano oil and oil of regano
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That's you know, the active compound that's responsible for the
anti macrobal the anti fungal potency in the in the
research on it against candida is genuinely oppressive. There's there's
(19:02):
multiple clinical studies that have shown it disrupts the fungal
cell membrane and and it it spares the beneficial bacteria
in the in the body, which is is very important.
And that's that's something that pharmaceutical antifungals they just can't
can't do. And and so if we're we're looking this,
so you for topical applications the skin, the nails, the feet.
(19:25):
You can dilute it in a carrier oil such as
as coconut oil before applying. And so if we're talking
about coconut oil, it deserves its own moment here.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
It contains it contains several of these these medium fatty
acid change that are demonstrating meaningful anti fungal activity in
the in the peer reviewed studies. So again, if we're
attacking this, this systemic candida, this has remarkable effectiveness. So
this is this is something that you can use topically
(19:57):
and you can also consume it, you know, say one
of two tablespoons daily, and that supports the gut anti
fungal defense simultaneously.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
So and you know, doctor Brockman, the problem today is
that we're hit with too many antibiotics. There's antibiotics in
the meat, there's antibiotics in the water, the traces of
it in the water systems they can't get out. And
then people take antibiotics way too often because that's there's
that standard of practice in medicine. If if anything, if
everything else fails, and you don't know what to do,
prescribe antibiotics. Give them a shot and this is a
(20:30):
tragic situation because that antibiotics shot led to pneumonia. It
had to have led to his pneumonia. Obviously he should
have been hospitalized. And and you know, I'm not saying
it wasn't partly his fault for not paying attention and resting.
And you know, he had to get to the race.
A lot of men will say, hey, I got to
get to work, men and women, I gotta get to work.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
I gotta do this my body.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Oh well, load me up with drugs, doctor, give me,
give me whatever you need to give me.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
I gotta go.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Do you know I got a mortgage chasing me, I
got a car payment chasing me.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
I got kids and a wife. I'm not going to
be down very long.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yeah, I get that, But there was a misdiagnosis from
the beginning. In my opinion, from everything that I've read.
If he'd have had natural care right from the beginning,
the proper natural form of care, which would have been
conservative internasal using the anti fungals like garlic and oregano
and golden seal and various other herbs that are available
in any health food store, this whole problem could have
(21:26):
been completely avoided and this happens every single day to
many men and women in the United States. And it's
a tragic situation. This ended in tragedy of death. It's
obviously something that led to a bacterial infection which led
to sepsis, which is an overreactive immune system catastrophic reaction.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Absolutely, and Doctor Bob, I want to I want to
touch on just a couple more things with this topic
when we when we come back from break. So we
got to take take just a short minute and we'll
come back and talk about this this Kyle Bush trade
you more. You're listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
Speaker 10 (22:05):
Everybody's called the mistakes, but everybody's got a choice to make.
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Everybody needs to leave the faith. Baddy, welcome back.
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Kyle Busch, I want to make another reminder about another
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talking about, you know, the strategy that is uh the
death of Kyle Busch. Again, he's forty one years old.
(25:24):
He leaves behind a young family, and doctor Bob, I
want to I want to change gears here and talk
that we built this entire wellness culture that that is
around these these visible markers of health. And we're talking
about muscular definition and cardiovascular output, our body composition and
(25:46):
these performance metrics that you would see in an elite
athlete like Kyle Busch. We celebrate this in an athlete.
We idolize the physique and we we spend billions of
dollars in billions of hours trying to optimize our health
that we can see, and in doing so, we have
(26:08):
systemically neglected the health that we cannot see. That the
invisible architecture of the immune system and the inflammatory regulation,
our autonomic balance in our just cellular resistance and resilience
that determines whether your body can fight off a threat
(26:31):
before it becomes a mortal one. And Kyle Busch was not,
by any appearance a fragile man. And I'm sure that
he had elite athletic training, the kind that produces that
championship level performance that he was accustomed to, and that
comes with a physiological cost that is rarely, if ever
(26:55):
discussed in sports culture. And my background being in sports medicine,
I understand the intense physical training and that can be
in itself an inflammatory stressor. So you're suppressing the immune
function in the hours, and it becomes days, and it
becomes years, and to get this peak exertion and then cortisol,
(27:21):
that primary stress hormone is chronically elevated in these high
performance athletes that are operating at their near maximum capacity
in the cortisol if it goes on for too long.
It suppresses that immune system by design. And then you
add in a sleep disruption of a racing schedule to travel,
(27:44):
the constant neurological activation of the competition, and then you
have that profile that beneath the surface carries a significant
risk to the immune system and inflammatory mark workers throughout
throughout the body. And I think that is you know,
I'm not necessarily speculating about the specifics of Kyle Busch's
(28:08):
health history. I did not treat him, I did not
have his medical records. But what I'm saying is that
the pattern this elite performer in his early forties, apparently healthy,
that was struck down with the sudden catastrophic severity by
what we're calling that that common infection and being pneumonia.
(28:31):
It's not as as I guess, anomalist as it as
it appears to be. It is in fact a pattern,
a pattern, uh that integrative and functional medicine practitioners have
been observing and warned about for years.
Speaker 10 (28:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah, it's it shows the limitations of medical care. You know,
everybody thinks, well, you know, uh, my medical doctor will
save the day.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Look, Kyle Busch.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Was under medical care from the get go, and it
was very likely a misdiagnosis. To start giving him an
antibiotic when he had a fungal infection was a monumental
error which led to pneumonia. And this sepsis where the
body's immune system response overwhelms the kidneys, the lungs and
(29:21):
things start unraveling very quickly.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
And this is really a.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Call to action for people to understand that there are
other forms of healthcare aside from drugs and surgery. Now,
antibiotics can be life saving drugs and they save lives
every single day, but when they're used inappropriately or not
used efficaciously in an individual, in my opinion, this is
(29:47):
just my opinion based on everything that I've been able
to discover and also my experience as a physician over
the years treating lots and lots of sinus related conditions, pneumonia, bronchitis, asthma,
and the many patients I've seen. It has taught me
that many of the people that landed on my doorstep
(30:07):
as a physician were already down that path of medicine,
had already tried the antibiotics, they got worse, They tried
the steroids, they got worse, or some other quick fix response,
which sometimes you need to slow stuff down until you
can get it under control. But in this case, it
was a tragic event that ultimately led to the death
(30:27):
of an individual. Now you said you said earlier, Doctor Buckner,
that people that race cars are elite and elite athletes.
They are they have to have incredible eye to hand coordination.
Do you ever see one this obese. I'd never seen
one that's obese. In fact, when they had these these
athletic games where they went out and they had, you know,
a baseball player, a football player, a hockey player, and
(30:50):
a race car driver compete against each other.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Often the race car drivers won.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Doctor Bob, we got taken just a short break. When
we come back, I do want to talk about pneumonia briefly,
and we'll.
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Speaker 5 (34:22):
Okay, doctor Bob.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Before the break, I was saying, I want to talk
about pneumonia a little bit, a little bit further. And
pneumonia kills approximately fifty thousand Americans per year. And sepsis,
the systemic inflammatory cascade that claimed Kyle Busch tragically, it
kills approximately two hundred and seventy thousand Americans annually, So
(34:46):
in that it's considered that thirdly because of death in
US hospitals, And yet it receives a fraction of the
public health attention and the urgency of these more ramatic
type of diagnosis. So we don't run charity races for
sepsis awareness, So we don't see celebrity fundraising campaigns for
(35:10):
pneumonia prevention. We treat these deaths as somewhat less significant
unless it's your loved one, as though dying of an
infection in this era of modern medicine is almost embarrassing
rather than a call a call to action, or hey,
(35:32):
let's spotlight this a little bit further. Intel somebody in
the stature of Kyle Busch at the age of forty
one passes away.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
What do you think on.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
That, Well, I think you're talking to somebody who's had
pneumonia three times growing up. Back then, of course I
did not understand, because I hadn't had any training yet,
that I probably was hospitalized with pneumonia for the very
same thing that Kyle Busch had. I probably was treated
with an antibiotic, which is standard practice still today. Doctors
(36:04):
handed out like candy still today, even though it's an
important drug, it's a miracle drug, but it's used inappropriately
and unjudiciously. So, you know, reflecting back on my childhood,
that's how I got hospitalized. I should have been treated
for a fungal infection, which most sinus problems begin with
a fungal infection. And if you don't believe me, look
(36:26):
at MAO clinic. So let's now quantumly move from here
to the misdiagnosis that he had started with a fungal infection,
was treated with an antibiotic which just makes a fungal infection worse,
leads to pneumonia, which leads to sepsis, and then he
goes to the you know, and he's got sepsis. Had
this been caught in time and they knew he had sepsis,
(36:48):
he could have been treated properly even for the sepsis,
and it may have saved his life. By introducing intravenous,
high dose, slow drip vitamin C along with vitamin B
one thigh, along with hydro cortisone no combination. You can
read about it, read about it for yourself, that combination
when you could save people's lives, and it's not being
(37:10):
done in hospitals.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Why, I don't know. Who knows.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
We know there's three hundred and fifty thousand deaths of
stepsis every single year. Happens mostly to older people because
you're just not as virile as you were and your
immune system can can fade. That's why it's so odd
when you read or hear about an athlete, an elead athlete,
prime of his life, dying with this disease. And again
(37:35):
I want to circle back, this was totally unnecessary. And again,
as much as information that I've been able to gather.
You've been able to gather doctor Brockman, and the experience
we've had as doctors with patients, we know this should
not have happened had he had some functional medical care,
a doctor that knows integrative medicine, a doctor who understands
(37:56):
and can recognize that most sinus problems are not bacterial logic,
they're almost always fungal.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Especially if you check the.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
Secretions coming out of their nose and then you stop
your antibiotic prescription and shots and you move right to
an anti fungal program. This gentleman's life would have been
saved most likely.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
I agree, And let me be direct.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
You know your your immune system is not some type
of a passive shield. It's this dynamic It's a living,
metabolically demanding system that requires specific inputs to maintain maintains
its vitality. So again, you know, mentioning sleep in that
(38:41):
genuine restorative sleep is perhaps one of the most the
single most powerful immune modulating type of system that is
available to you, and it's and it's free. But I
also want to talk about micronutrient sufficiency. And again I'm
talking about that adequate vitamin D the zinc, the magnesium,
(39:04):
and you mentioned vitamin C, and these are it's foundational
to immune cell production in function. So so chronic psychological
or or or mechanical stress that's put on the body,
it's immunosuppressive at every level, and that activates again cortisol
(39:28):
that it selectively starts to downregulate exactly the cellular immune
response that's needed to fight off things like respiratory infections.
And then you add in gut health and the diversity
and the vitality of your gut microbiome. And now now
you're talking about something that's that tied together is understood
(39:50):
to be a primary determination of your systemic immune function.
So talking about we need to take another another short
break and and when come back, I'm gonna go ahead
and get your final thoughts on this. You're listening to
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based wisdom where we can every step of the way.
Speaker 5 (42:16):
And we've been today we've been talking.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
About Kyle Busch's death, and it doesn't necessarily change the
conversation that we've brought for years. And it's not necessarily
because his story is unique, tragically it's it's not, but
because his stature, his youth, and the shocking speed of
(42:38):
his decline make it impossible to dismiss with the usual
platitudes about underlying conditions. And it could happen to anyone,
and yes, it can happen to anyone, and that is
precisely the point of today's conversation, Doctor Bob Exactly.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
This is going to help somebody along the line. And
this radio show has provided this kind of information for
thirty years. That's what we do. It's our passion, it's
our goal, it's our mission, and we love it. We
think it's our calling actually, and we look forward to it.
But you're right, when you have a person like Kyle
(43:19):
Busch who is a champion NASCAR driver, you don't have
to be a NASCAR friend to pick up on this story.
You don't have to be you know, forty one years
of age. You could be sixty five or you could
be twenty. This should still be significant to you in
terms of a call to action. When you have a
(43:39):
sinus infection and you are it's not going away, and
you say, okay, well I'll go to the only healing
art there is on the planet. I'll see my medical doctor.
Because the only treatment is drugs and more drugs. There's
where you make your first possible fatal mistake. Most of
these things with sinuses are benign, they're self limiting. It
could be handled safely and naturally. And had he walked
(44:02):
into my office with the sinus infection, I can tell
you this, he would have been recommended clears rescue nasal spray.
I would have put him on a large dose of
garlic oil, golden seal, oregano oil, recommended rest, hydration, sunlight,
and lowering his stress. And I'm telling you what, I've
(44:22):
run into people just like Kyle Bush that have gotten
over exactly what he got over. Unfortunately, in my opinion,
he got the wrong treatment and for the wrong condition,
and it spun out out of control into pneumonia, which
then led to sepsis, which then caused his death. So
just remember, folks, medical care is very limited, and in
(44:43):
this case it let Kyle Busch and his.
Speaker 6 (44:45):
Family and many other people down.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
Yeah, and rest in peace, Kyle.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
You drove like you were built to last forever. The
least we can do is learn from the lesson that
this passing is have less left us with as so, folks,
your your body is your ultimate vehicle. Drive it accordingly.
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