May 31, 2026 • 44 mins
You are not just a body. You are a self-healing, self-regulating biological masterpiece — the product of
thousands of years of refined evolutionary architecture. The question isn't whether your built-in design is extraordinary. The question is whether you are giving it the right software to run on. Dr. Adam Brockman akes you deep into the Fungal Frontier — exploring how Lion's Mane may rebuild aging neural pathways, how Cordyceps supports deep cellular energy production at the mitochondrial level, and how Turkey Tail is quietly redefining what intelligent immune function actually looks like. Plus — Dr. Brockman sits down
with renowned clinical nutritionist Dr. Jim LaValle to explore the science behind the Kyolic Specialty
Series Mushrooms+ line and why aged garlic extract combined with functional mushrooms may be one of the most compelling longevity protocols in natural medicine today. Ancient wisdom. Modern science. One extraordinary conversation.
Special Guest: Dr. Jim LaValle, Clinical Pharmacist, Board Certified Clinical Nutritionist, and Author
thousands of years of refined evolutionary architecture. The question isn't whether your built-in design is extraordinary. The question is whether you are giving it the right software to run on. Dr. Adam Brockman akes you deep into the Fungal Frontier — exploring how Lion's Mane may rebuild aging neural pathways, how Cordyceps supports deep cellular energy production at the mitochondrial level, and how Turkey Tail is quietly redefining what intelligent immune function actually looks like. Plus — Dr. Brockman sits down
with renowned clinical nutritionist Dr. Jim LaValle to explore the science behind the Kyolic Specialty
Series Mushrooms+ line and why aged garlic extract combined with functional mushrooms may be one of the most compelling longevity protocols in natural medicine today. Ancient wisdom. Modern science. One extraordinary conversation.
Special Guest: Dr. Jim LaValle, Clinical Pharmacist, Board Certified Clinical Nutritionist, and Author
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Good morning everyone, or good afternoon wherever you are in
this beautiful world. Today, Doctor Adam Brockman here, and I
want you to take a second and just look in
the mirror.
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No really, I want you.
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To stop what you're doing and take a look what
you're seeing. Isn't just a body. It's not just a
collection of bone or skins and a few.
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Leaders of blood.
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You're looking at a biological masterpiece. You are the result
of billions of years of refined evolutionary architecture. You're a
self healing, you're self regulating, You're a high performance machine.
But here's the problem. Most of us are treating that
built in design like a nineteen ninety eight flip phone
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when we should be running the most sophisticated software on
the planet. And for years we've been told that food
is just fuel, calories in, calories out, but that myth
is finally starting to crack. We're living in a golden
age of health optimization, where modern science is validating ancient
secrets that cultures have respected for generations. And when we
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talk about metabolic health in the way modern food can
hijack appetite and create food noise, we're really talking about
whether we support or scramble your body's blueprint. And that's
why we need to move from the pharmacy in the
cabinet to the pharmacy in the pantry. And today we're
talking about one of the most fascinating software updates for
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your system I'm talking about mushrooms. And we're not talking
about the stuff you throw on pizza, though those are delicious.
We are diving into what I want to call the
fungal frontier. And they're not just plants. They're actually closer
to animals as far as DNA goes. Did you know
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that they are also nature's biological data packets. They contain
information that helps guide your immune system and it supports
healthy brain signaling. It nudges your metabolism in a better direction.
So when you sit back, grab your favorite brew, and
let's dive into why functional mushrooms may be one of
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the most exciting ways to support your internal operating system.
And if you want to join in the conversation, here's
your invitation. You can do that by going to doctor
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which is eight hundred six zero six eight A two
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to two. Again it's eight hundred six zero six eight
eight two to two. So let's go ahead and start
today with the heavy hitter, and I'm talking about lions main.
I like to call this the neuro architect and for
the longest time, the conventional medical model told us that
once your brain cells are gone, they're gone. They said
that the brain you have is the brain you're stuck
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with as you age. Well, that old school thinking is
being challenged in a very big way. If we're observing
how certain cultures seem to maintain impressive mental clarity well
into later into life, likely because of their daily habits
and their lower metabolic chaos, and they're less ultra processed foods.
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This all starts to shape their terrain and it really
helps the entire body, the brain included. And this emerging
research has added to the case that lions may support
nerve growth factors that's NGF in other pathways that are
involved in brain resilience. So if we think of NGF
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as the software engineer for your neurons, it doesn't just
help protect the brain, it may help support the wiring.
And that's where this gets exciting. Instead of accepting brain
fag as some inevitable badge of aging, we can start
asking smarter questions about nourishment or inflammation or blood sugar stability,
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and then we can target support. And when you take
lion's maine, you are just taking a vitamin, you're giving
your nervous system. We're all material and signaling support that
may help maintain cognition, focus, and clarity. It's about more
than just memory. It's about taking care of your internal
operating system. Now let's talk about energy. And I'm not
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talking about jittery three cups of coffee kind of energy
that leaves you crashing at two PM. We're talking about
deep cellular ATP production. We're talking about a mushroom known
as cort aceps. But here's where it gets really interesting.
There's growing discussion around circadian timing and when certain compounds
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may best support recovery, energy and resilience. And most people
think when you take cort aceps in the morning, you
do it for a boost, and that may still make
sense for some people, but there's a bigger conversation here
about time. I mean in your sleep, quality, in your
self function. That all work together. And that's because cored
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aceps doesn't just give you energy. It appears to support
how your cells, the mitochondria, the power plants of those cells,
use oxygen and produce usable energy. It's like upgrading the
engine in your car to run more efficiently. And when
you're timing, your sleep and your metabolic rhythm are all aligned.
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You wake up feeling more restored, with less food noise
and better blood sugar stability the next day. And this
is what I mean by talking about ancient wisdom meets
modern technology. We've known about cored ACEPS for centuries, but
only now do we have the tools to better understand
when and how it may fit into a smarter longevity
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strategy for your physiology. So if Lion's main is the
architect and cored ACEPS is that engine, then turkey tail
is the security detail. But it's not an aggressive, shoot
first and ask questions later kind of security. We spent
too much time trying to fight our environment, so I
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want to want to shift your perspective for a second.
Your immune system shouldn't be just an army, it should
be an intelligence agency. And turkey tail is packed with
polysacchera peptides and we're talking PSP and PSK that provide
what I call that immune IQ. It helps educate immune
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function and may help your white blood cells better recognize
the difference between a real threat in your own healthy tissue.
There's also growing interest in turkey tail as a supportive
tool for immune resilience and healthy microbal balance. And as
large share of your immunity, the activity is tied in
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the gut. In turkey tail may act like a prebiotic
ally feeding the beneficial bacteria that helped to keep your
self healing system running smoothly. It's about collaboration and not conflict,
so we're not fighting nature, We're trying to partner with it. So, folks,
we're standing at that threshold of a new era. We
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have the tools, the data, and the nature that has
provided the software to reclaim our health. You don't have
to be a victim of your genetics or the noise
of that modern world. You could take control, whether it's
clearing that mental fog with Lions Maine, or optimizing your
cellular clock with cordyceps, or building a smarter immune system
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with turkey tail. This fungal frontier is here to support
your human hardware. And speaking of taking control, you're not
going to want to miss the next part of this hour.
I'm going to be sitting down with a longtime friend
of the show, a man who has been at the
forefront of clinical nutrition for decades, and that is doctor
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Jim Laval and doctor Jim. He's going to walk us
through something very special and that is the Chiolic Specialty
series Mushroom Plus line that just got launched, and we're
going to dive into how Hew Kyolic has managed to
combine the legendary power of age garlic extract with these
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high potency functional mushrooms to create a protocol that has
has is truly special and supports metabolic health and longevity.
So this is one conversation you're not going to want
to miss. It's time to arm yourself with the truth
and protect your future. So I want you to stay tuned.
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Doctor Bob Martin Show. Everyone joining us today is our
good friend and colleague, doctor Jim Laval. Doctor Jim, He's
a clinical pharmacist and author, a Board certified clinical nutritionist,
and a true health expert. He's spent over forty years
helping people decode their metabolic health. And Doctor Jim joined
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us today and he's going to discuss a very exciting
new product line from Waucanaga of America and that is Coyolic,
especially series Mushrooms Plus. Doctor Jim, It's great to have
you back in the hot seed on the show. How
are you today?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I'm good? How you doing?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I'm doing great, Doctor Jim. This is this is such
exciting news from Waucanaga of America with the recent launch
of Coyolic specially series Mushrooms Plus, and that's why we
invite you to come back on the show. I'm excited
to discuss this with you today. How did this come about?
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Well, I think you know, Rocanaga is always looking to
innovate and where can they find I think, you know,
interesting compounds that make a difference in people's lives.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
And I think the step towards.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Mushrooms, I think is an amazing first step, you know it.
You know, it's that thought of other remedies with you know,
garlic and mushrooms together. Obviously, consumers are looking for things
that help them, you know, in these key categories, and
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then you know, I think it's one of the hottest topics, right.
I mean functional mushrooms have exploded over the last five years.
So you know three key areas, right, sleep, brain or
like improving focus and immune function. And I think those
are you know, really, when you think about it, those
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are key things consumers are interested in.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Oh absolutely, I think it's a I think this is
a game changing type of product, Doctor Jim. You know,
I've been telling listeners Wh've been doing some series about
how the body is this biological masterpiece. In today's world,
this the masterpiece. It's constantly under siege. We were more
stressed and distracted than any generation in recent memory.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
I think.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Seeing a company like Wakanaga, who we all trust for
their clinical studies, they step into this functional mushroom space,
I think this is massive and they're not just following
this trend which we know the no. Functional mushrooms are
very trendy right now. They're they're providing at Waucanaga this
precision tool with the research, the backing, and this is
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something that the body can actually do its job. So
I want to disc us the why why is Kylelic
doing mushrooms plus and the specifically these formulas with the
age garlic extract.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Yeah, you know, I think that the the first thing
is is that you know, there's a lot of as
you know when you look at botanical medicine, there's a
lot of synergy that occurs between different botanical ingredients. So
the thought of you know, h garlic or garlic with
mushrooms pretty important. I think the three areas they focused
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on or key areas that consumers are interested in it.
I mean from ages twenty to eighty, you know, the
whole thought of stress, cognition, vitality.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Right, So I think, you know, those are the big areas.
Is you know why.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
They were interested in kind of mapping it out with
age garlic because age garlic applies to all those individuals
as well, different pathways, different things are going on when
you combine a garlic with these mushrooms. But I think
you're pretty I think I think it was a pretty
novel idea, you know. And I've talked to the scientists
at Waukanaga on multiple occasions, and you know, they're very
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thoughtful about what they're doing. And that's why I've respected,
you know, the Wakanaga family uh of brands for so
long because you know, the science is really they lean
into the science side.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, they're they're great with that. And
you mentioned the word synergy, and I think that's big here.
And I know, in my practice, I see so many
people taking this this shotgun approach to to supplements, if
you will. You know, they take a little of this,
a little, a little of that, but they're just shooting
from the hip, trying to get something to stick. And
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I think by pairing age garlic extract with these these mushrooms,
the functional mushrooms, you're you know, Waucanaga is creating this
this metabolic force multiplier. You know, you're huge in this
metabolic space. So that the age garlic extract, we know,
it's one of the most research garlic supplements on the
on the planet. And then you're you're your layer in
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this foundation with the the the signaling, the specific signaling,
if you will, of these functional mushrooms. And I think
that's hidden this biological sweet spot. You know, we're solving
solving the problem of today with this age old wisdom
and then we got this current science with it. And
I think, I think that's that's huge in the space.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
And you know, and the thing is is that honestly,
it's one of the most age garlic extract, Kyle. It's
one of the most research dietary supplements that I know
of period and in any category. I mean, I don't
know that many companies that continue to publish new data
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on their product, right, And so that that's why I
just think it's important that we support groups that are
really into proving that natural therapies work and they're a
value and may even provide better support for people in
their everyday lies. Right, So I think it's you know,
I think it just is absolutely I'm excited to see
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these new products out.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah yeah, And you you mentioned the three different formulas briefly,
doctor Jim. We got you know a few minutes here
before break. But what kind of mushrooms are used in
these three different formulas?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Sure, I mean they use rishi mushroom on sleep, they
use lions Maine for the focus or the smart formula,
and then they have a combination of mushrooms for the
immune formula that's Chaga, cortyceps and turkey tails. So you know,
I think, once again, super thoughtful and what they what
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they selected.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, yeah, this is a great a great lineup and
all star lineup if you will, in the in the
fungal Kingdom right there. You know, you got some heavy hitters.
You're not right, you're talking to out a one random
mushroom just place in a product you're getting. You're getting
these very specific species that have been shown to move
that needle when it comes to that biological function. And
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these are you know, whether we're talking about that neurological
support of lions main or that that deep cellular type
of protection of turkey taiale. They're not just ingredients at
that point, they're biological keys. So so we can discuss
that in a little bit greater detail. If you went
unlock that higher level of function, you have to you
have to to lay lay out those right keys and
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and doctor Jim, can you kind of see how those keys, uh,
lay those out a little bit for our listeners just
a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Yeah, Well, I mean the first step is is if
if you think of let's combine it with age garlic. Right, So,
with age garlic you have all this kind of decrease
in inflammation signaling that occurs, which is kind of foundational
to get people feeling.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Well and having vitality. Right.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
So there's that, and then there's the fact so on
the sleep formula, for example, Rishi, which helps with calming
the nervous system, reducing sympathetic stress kind of synergistically in
a little different way than how aged garlic actually had
some early clinical trials. And of course with the lowering
blood pressure, you know it reduces sympathetic dominance, but Rieschi
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is working more. It's supporting the inhibitory side of your
nervous system in your brain so that you're really getting
this calming signal, and you know it's that direct impact
on you know, receptors like GABBA, decreasing glutamate excitation in
the neurons, you know, really important for getting people to
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calm down, feel more at ease. On the focus side, obviously,
you know, you look at lions Made, it's been around
for a while, you know, obviously it's been out there.
And when you improve you know, decreasing inflammation signaling, improving
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brain derived neurotropic factor, improving the kind of like the
signaling of concentration and focus through dopamine all very important,
you know, and you know Lionsman does a great job
of supporting that.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
But once again, you know, remember.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
You need increased blood flow, you need decreased oxidative stress
in your brain, and that's what age garlic does. So
there's that combination of providing better blood flow, better oxygenation,
less free radical activity, combined with the effect of the mushroom.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
So again we're talking with doctor Jim Laval. He is
talking today about kyolics, the age garlic extract in adding
functional mushrooms to that.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
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Speaker 4 (22:06):
While you waiting the times, please.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And welcome back. You're listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
I'm doctor Adam Brockman and Doctor Bob and I were
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toll free hotline which is eight hundred six zero six
eighty two to two. Again, that's eight hundred six zero
six eight A two two. And today we're talking with
doctor Jim Leval and we're talking about uh Waucanaga of America.
The recent press release that they have have now added
specialty series Mushrooms plus to their age Garlic extract. And
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before before the break, we were just starting to get
into the benefits of each each of these They light
out three new new products, the Coyolic Mushrooms plus Sleep
Formula that Coolic Mushrooms plus Smart formula in the Kyolic
Mushrooms plus Immune formula. So doctor Jim, I want to
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get into more about the benefits of each of these formulas.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
So, I mean, obviously when you have rishi mushroom, reshie
is a calming extract.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
So you know, when you.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Look at medicinal mushrooms, it's like, well, what is what
is it mainly doing? When you can't sleep, it's because
of hyper arousal unless you have apnea, right, if you've
got obstructed apnea, that's a different story. But if it's
be hey, man, I can't get to sleep, I can't
stay asleep, it's because your brain is hyper aroused, and
that means you have to activate the inhibitory side of
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your nervous system. You're either sympathetic dominant or not. If
you're sympathetic dominant, your brain typer aroused. When your brain
typer aroused, that's called hyper arousal of the HPA.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Axis, and that is insomnia.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
So you want to take something that's going to help
dampen that hyper you know, you know, sympathetic stimulated brain.
Riesche does a great job of reducing that stimulation through
it helping the inhibitory neurotransmitters to to fire. So things
like GABA, you know, super important to kind of help
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calm things down, and age garlic extract does the same thing.
It's why it lowers blood pressure in multiple human trials.
It dampens that sympathetic response, So, you know, so rieschi
inhibitory cycle to help calm your brain at night and
then be able to allow you to be able to
go into a deeper sleep age. Garlic is going to
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help with that sympathetic stress as well. Now the next
one is lions made. So lions Main a lot of
different uses for Lion's Main, but in this particular, uh,
you know thought it is to enhance focus. You enhance
focus through a couple different ways. One, you decrease neuroinflammation
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so that your brain doesn't feel foggy. Everybody talks about
oh my god, I get to two o'clock and I
can't think. I'm not you know, I'm just foggy headed.
I don't like making decisions after two My processing speeds slower.
So decreasing inflammation great. But the other side is to
support When you decrease that, you support dopamine activation, and
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dopamine is the neurotransmitter for focus, and so what lions
Main does is helped provide a benefit to both of those,
dampening that neuroinflammatory response, improving on dopaminergic transmission so that
your brain can actually at three o'clock you can make
a decision that are relying on a triple latte with
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extra sugar, right, which is what people end up doing.
So I really like you know, Lions Made has got
so much research behind it, so I really like that
they chose Lions Made. And then on the immune system,
it's a little more complex, all right. You've got Chaga,
corty EEPs, and turkey tail.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Well, turkey tail's old school. If you remember S C. T.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
You know that there's a turkey tail has been around
a long time.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Is a general immune support. So what are you looking
for for immune support? Well, you want you want to
stimulate your.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Natural killer cells and mature your T killer cells so
that they're actually able to go out and fight something
off and keep your immune system imbalance. Interestingly, age garlic
extra helps to stimulate gamma delta T killer cells, so
which are the active T killer cells, and it does
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it in the intestine. So when you combine that with
the capacity of these three mushrooms, each of which kind
of support the immune system in a little bit different way.
Turkey tails pretty straightforward on stimulating those NK cells and
those T cells to go out and find things that
don't belong in your body, you know, and have a
good fight. Cort accepts a little bit more adaptogenic, you know,
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and that it helps with oxygenation of your of your
tissues in your body. You hold onto your oxygen longer
on your red blood cell. And in addition to that,
it supports other metabolic functions like kidney function, endurance, stamina.
So if you're working out regularly and you go, you
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know what, when I work out too hard.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I get sick.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
This would be an ideal formula for someone to take
because h garlic extract has been shown to help people
to recover quicker from exercise, especially in the over forty.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Group, and you add these mushrooms to it.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Now you get the full potential of that particular you
know formula because of its ability to help people if
they're living an active lifestyle, and if you're not, you're
just concerned about getting sick. I don't think people do
enough for their chronic immune health, you know, So taking
something on a regular basis combining age garlic with the mushrooms,
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so having that kyolic immune mushrooms plus formula really does
give you a nice broad spectrum approach.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, I agree. And folks, we're talking with doctor Jim
Leval and we're talking about the Coyolic mushrooms plus formulas
that they've come out that combined the age garlic extract
and we're talking about Coyolics mushrooms plus sleep formula, the
smart formula in the immune formula and coyolic products. They
(28:53):
are available nationwide through finer retailers. And if you want
to know more information on this, uh this great lineup
of mushroom plus products that you can read the press
release the research behind it. I encourage you to visit
kyolic dot com. That's spelled k y o lic dot com,
(29:13):
k y O l i c dot com, or you
can call them directly at eight hundred four two one
two nine nine eight. Again it's eight hundred four two
one two nine nine eight, and I got a lot
of great information and specialists that are willing to help
you there. It's coyolic dot com or eight hundred four
two one two nine nine eight. All right, doctor Jim,
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before we just got a minut or so before break,
But what part of the mushroom is used is used
in these products?
Speaker 5 (29:45):
So for what there's a lot of different ways you
can do mushrooms. What's used from kyolic is fruiting body.
So it's the fruiting body is what you see on top, right.
My celium is what's growing on. So they use the
fruiting body, all organic, all farmed, forty years experience at
(30:05):
doing it. And I think that's the other thing it's
important about Wakanaga. They look for the best raw materials possible,
so you know, so it's interesting, right, it's got that
you get that big fruiting body is what we're utilizing
to make these.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yeah, and that's important here because that fruiting body, like
doctor Jim mentioned, is the actual mushroom and this is
where that high potency lives. So Kyle look is giving
you that that top shelf part of the part of
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to get into some rapid fire questions on mushrooms that
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talk radio program. Today, we're talking with doctor Jim Laval
about kyolic age garlic extract functional mushroom products that they
just we just read the press release. It's an exciting announcement.
I know there's a lot of questions on mushrooms out there,
doctor Jim, So I want to get into some just
rapid fire questions that I think our audience is going
(33:44):
to find very exciting. So so first off, let's just
talk about what are functional mushrooms?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Yeah, functional?
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Yeah, so functional mushrooms or mushrooms that have health promoting properties. Now, yeah,
you could say it used to be you could say
there's color mushrooms, but a lot of people use functional
mushrooms is part of their culinary experience now, right, So
a lot of people cook with these functional mushrooms as well.
(34:11):
But basically, the functional mushroom is one that has a
lot of bioactive compounds in it. So the beta glue
cans obviously helped stimulate kind of the decked in one
receptors which are really potent for the immune system.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Terpenes, other compounds are in there.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
As well, and and then of course you know there's
the other side of fully uh, you know, medicinal mushrooms
like what are being used right now, Like the psychedelic
mushrooms that all the research is being done on.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
But you think of these.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Mushrooms functional mushrooms just supply the nutrients your body needs
in order to feel better, in order to function better
and to be able to be resilient to the to
the kind of the areas that we were talking about,
which was sleep, focus and immune function.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Yeah, you mad made a good point.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
There's a lot of research happening on on the different
types of mushrooms that are out there, including the psychedelic
for instance, with with with trauma. That's a that's a
topic we can do, we can do a whole hour
on sometimes. But today we know we're focusing on on
the functional functional properties of mushrooms. And in the cholic products.
(35:20):
Now are we talking about is it containing a powder
or is this an extract?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
In these Yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
It's actually powders are a little bit less potent than
the concentrations because when you when you create extracts, it
actually you know, one it creates more mass of actives,
which really allows you to create more bioavailability and a
(35:51):
greater amount.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Of utilization because of the extraction.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
So you know, you get optimal potency when you when
you use an extract which you have to look on
the label. When people you know, list their mushrooms, a
lot of times it'll say, you know, chaga powder, resheet
powder versus the extracts which are concentrated.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
And so if we're if we're talking about this, you know,
I know, kyolic I made to mention that that these
products are full spectrum. So what what does this mean
to be full spectrum? And why is this so important?
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Yeah, I mean the full spectrum side.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Why it's important is to get the full benefit from
the mushroom.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Right. So if you're.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Thinking about, well, gee, I want to use this fruiting body,
and I want to get all the constituents that could
possibly act as signals to take either take my body
back to homeostasis or to help my body improve performance
or to help.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Me fight something. Uh, you know, you are better off
with a.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
Full spectrum compound that is, you know, basically naturally occurring
found in the you know, in the organically produced mushroom.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Right, So you're really looking to get.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
That the widest amount of bioactives possible.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
And another question that's going to come up about the
mushrooms is is this organic and is this avoiding those
synthetic pesticides.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Yeah, it's a big deal, right, I mean, I think
more and more people are getting aware of the value
of organic and so not all mushrooms in dietary supplements
are organic. In fact, it would have to list it,
so you look on the label, just like does it
say powder or not? Would it say organic or not.
(37:44):
A lot of commercial mushroom producers could use pesticides, especially
fungicides or insecticides, because they can be prone to that,
you know, to get obviously in their in order to
grow and reduce like pest exposure and lose yield because
of that exposure.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Right.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
But you know organic providers actually you know they don't
use synthetic pesticides, the utilized natural methods, which actually when
you think about it, and you know, here's this thing,
doctor Adam. It's it's like when you allow that plant
or mushroom to grow naturally and fully like in the
(38:25):
organic state, you get that fuller spectrum of nutrients that
can be embodied. Right, So it should say it on
the on the fact sheet if it's organic or not.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, And folks, that is your quick checklist on kyola,
especially series mushroom plus products, and I want I want
every listener to to write write down what we just
talked about. Go back and listen to it if if
you need to, and also go to kyolic dot com
that's spelled k U y O l i c dot
(38:57):
com and you can see the research, you can see
the product, you can see exactly what's in there. And
you know, you know, we have to to try to
be our own best doctors most of the time. And
this the industry as as a whole a lot of times.
And we're talking about the food industry, uh, you know,
wellness industry a lot. There's a lot of stuff out there.
(39:17):
It's just full of marketing fluff. And doctor Jim is
here today and he's just given us that that clinical
that that fluff detector, so to speak. So so if
there's companies out there that's not transparent about their sourcing are,
if they're they're hiding uh things in the products, you know,
they just don't deserve a place in your in your
(39:38):
supplement cabinet. And Kyolak is checking every one of those
boxes because they respect the customer and they respect the science.
With that, and doctor Jim, we just got a few
minutes left in the show. Gotta take quick break, but
we come back. I just want to get your final thoughts.
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Welcome back, Doctor Adam Brackman here, and you're listening to
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Speaker 4 (41:20):
Today.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
We've been talking with our good friend in colleague, doctor
Jim Laval and he's been talking about Kyolics the Specialty series,
the Mushroom Plus series. So I want you to think
better sleep is sleep better and feel better with it
with this series. It's it's a great addition to Coyolic's
age garlic extract lineup. They got a lot of great products.
(41:41):
I encourage you to head over to their website at
coolic dot com. And doctor Jim, I want to thank
you again for being our guest today and let me
go ahead and remind our listeners where Coyolic Mushroom Plus
products the formulas are available. So Coyolic Specialty Series Mushroom
Plus formulas are available at your local natural health stores
nationwide and online. And for more information about Kyolic or
(42:05):
to find that retailer nearest you, again, the website is
Kyolic dot com. You can also call their specialists at
their toll free hotline which is eight hundred four one
two nine nine eight. Again it's eight hundred four one
two nine nine eight. So, doctor Jim, we've been talking
a lot about the specific mushroom species that are for
(42:26):
formed in each of these these formulas. But I want
to talk briefly here because they got a lot of
other great ingredients and we talked about ah garlic extract.
But what what do each of these supplements contain as
far as those other ingredients go?
Speaker 5 (42:42):
Yeah, you know, I mean, I think the big thing
just people need to realize when they pick up mushrooms
to start, is that make sure that it matches what
you're trying to accomplish, right, So a lot you know,
so you may see, oh it's uh, it's it's got
(43:02):
a regano in it, or it has you know, a
bunch of the nutrients you should have, like something for
your immune system maybe, you know. So I think that's
the big piece that a lot of times people don't realize.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
So when you look at the sleep formula, for.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
Example, you know it's got the ing in it, Valerian
root in it in addition to mushrooms, so the ing
calming decreases the glutamate side. Valerian's been known as a
calming compound so that's for the sleep formula, and then
(43:43):
of course with the immune formula, zinc a regano extract
got to be twelve in it. Of course, a regano
being great is an antibacterial, anti viral zinc supported for
the immune system, so you know, really important there.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
And then of course the the.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
Smart mushroom extract, Aronia Berry's Selenium B twelve in addition
to the Lions main and the age Garlic extract. So
in other words, they're picking compounds that exactly fit the
purpose of the formula instead of just seeing kind of
a one size fit all effect.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Well that's great information, Doctor Jim. It's always a pleasure
to have you on the show, and thank you again
for joining us and bringing that heat today. If folks,
the takeaway is simple. Your health it needs to be intentional.
You can't just hope for energy or focus and sleep.
You have to provide those biological conditions for them to exist.
I'm doctor Adam Brockman. I want you to take charge
(44:46):
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Good morning everyone, or good afternoon wherever you are in
this beautiful world. Today, Doctor Adam Brockman here, and I
want you to take a second and just look in
the mirror.
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To stop what you're doing and take a look what
you're seeing. Isn't just a body. It's not just a
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Leaders of blood.
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You're looking at a biological masterpiece. You are the result
of billions of years of refined evolutionary architecture. You're a
self healing, you're self regulating, You're a high performance machine.
But here's the problem. Most of us are treating that
built in design like a nineteen ninety eight flip phone
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secrets that cultures have respected for generations. And when we
(02:07):
talk about metabolic health in the way modern food can
hijack appetite and create food noise, we're really talking about
whether we support or scramble your body's blueprint. And that's
why we need to move from the pharmacy in the
cabinet to the pharmacy in the pantry. And today we're
talking about one of the most fascinating software updates for
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your system I'm talking about mushrooms. And we're not talking
about the stuff you throw on pizza, though those are delicious.
We are diving into what I want to call the
fungal frontier. And they're not just plants. They're actually closer
to animals as far as DNA goes. Did you know
(02:49):
that they are also nature's biological data packets. They contain
information that helps guide your immune system and it supports
healthy brain signaling. It nudges your metabolism in a better direction.
So when you sit back, grab your favorite brew, and
let's dive into why functional mushrooms may be one of
(03:10):
the most exciting ways to support your internal operating system.
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to two. Again it's eight hundred six zero six eight
eight two to two. So let's go ahead and start
today with the heavy hitter, and I'm talking about lions main.
I like to call this the neuro architect and for
the longest time, the conventional medical model told us that
once your brain cells are gone, they're gone. They said
that the brain you have is the brain you're stuck
(03:53):
with as you age. Well, that old school thinking is
being challenged in a very big way. If we're observing
how certain cultures seem to maintain impressive mental clarity well
into later into life, likely because of their daily habits
and their lower metabolic chaos, and they're less ultra processed foods.
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This all starts to shape their terrain and it really
helps the entire body, the brain included. And this emerging
research has added to the case that lions may support
nerve growth factors that's NGF in other pathways that are
involved in brain resilience. So if we think of NGF
(04:37):
as the software engineer for your neurons, it doesn't just
help protect the brain, it may help support the wiring.
And that's where this gets exciting. Instead of accepting brain
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lion's maine, you are just taking a vitamin, you're giving
your nervous system. We're all material and signaling support that
may help maintain cognition, focus, and clarity. It's about more
than just memory. It's about taking care of your internal
operating system. Now let's talk about energy. And I'm not
(05:22):
talking about jittery three cups of coffee kind of energy
that leaves you crashing at two PM. We're talking about
deep cellular ATP production. We're talking about a mushroom known
as cort aceps. But here's where it gets really interesting.
There's growing discussion around circadian timing and when certain compounds
(05:44):
may best support recovery, energy and resilience. And most people
think when you take cort aceps in the morning, you
do it for a boost, and that may still make
sense for some people, but there's a bigger conversation here
about time. I mean in your sleep, quality, in your
self function. That all work together. And that's because cored
(06:06):
aceps doesn't just give you energy. It appears to support
how your cells, the mitochondria, the power plants of those cells,
use oxygen and produce usable energy. It's like upgrading the
engine in your car to run more efficiently. And when
you're timing, your sleep and your metabolic rhythm are all aligned.
(06:29):
You wake up feeling more restored, with less food noise
and better blood sugar stability the next day. And this
is what I mean by talking about ancient wisdom meets
modern technology. We've known about cored ACEPS for centuries, but
only now do we have the tools to better understand
when and how it may fit into a smarter longevity
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strategy for your physiology. So if Lion's main is the
architect and cored ACEPS is that engine, then turkey tail
is the security detail. But it's not an aggressive, shoot
first and ask questions later kind of security. We spent
too much time trying to fight our environment, so I
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want to want to shift your perspective for a second.
Your immune system shouldn't be just an army, it should
be an intelligence agency. And turkey tail is packed with
polysacchera peptides and we're talking PSP and PSK that provide
what I call that immune IQ. It helps educate immune
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function and may help your white blood cells better recognize
the difference between a real threat in your own healthy tissue.
There's also growing interest in turkey tail as a supportive
tool for immune resilience and healthy microbal balance. And as
large share of your immunity, the activity is tied in
(07:56):
the gut. In turkey tail may act like a prebiotic
ally feeding the beneficial bacteria that helped to keep your
self healing system running smoothly. It's about collaboration and not conflict,
so we're not fighting nature, We're trying to partner with it. So, folks,
we're standing at that threshold of a new era. We
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have the tools, the data, and the nature that has
provided the software to reclaim our health. You don't have
to be a victim of your genetics or the noise
of that modern world. You could take control, whether it's
clearing that mental fog with Lions Maine, or optimizing your
cellular clock with cordyceps, or building a smarter immune system
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with turkey tail. This fungal frontier is here to support
your human hardware. And speaking of taking control, you're not
going to want to miss the next part of this hour.
I'm going to be sitting down with a longtime friend
of the show, a man who has been at the
forefront of clinical nutrition for decades, and that is doctor
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Jim Laval and doctor Jim. He's going to walk us
through something very special and that is the Chiolic Specialty
series Mushroom Plus line that just got launched, and we're
going to dive into how Hew Kyolic has managed to
combine the legendary power of age garlic extract with these
(09:31):
high potency functional mushrooms to create a protocol that has
has is truly special and supports metabolic health and longevity.
So this is one conversation you're not going to want
to miss. It's time to arm yourself with the truth
and protect your future. So I want you to stay tuned.
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good friend and colleague, doctor Jim Laval. Doctor Jim, He's
a clinical pharmacist and author, a Board certified clinical nutritionist,
and a true health expert. He's spent over forty years
helping people decode their metabolic health. And Doctor Jim joined
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us today and he's going to discuss a very exciting
new product line from Waucanaga of America and that is Coyolic,
especially series Mushrooms Plus. Doctor Jim, It's great to have
you back in the hot seed on the show. How
are you today?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I'm good? How you doing?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I'm doing great, Doctor Jim. This is this is such
exciting news from Waucanaga of America with the recent launch
of Coyolic specially series Mushrooms Plus, and that's why we
invite you to come back on the show. I'm excited
to discuss this with you today. How did this come about?
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Well, I think you know, Rocanaga is always looking to
innovate and where can they find I think, you know,
interesting compounds that make a difference in people's lives.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
And I think the step towards.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Mushrooms, I think is an amazing first step, you know it.
You know, it's that thought of other remedies with you know,
garlic and mushrooms together. Obviously, consumers are looking for things
that help them, you know, in these key categories, and
(13:46):
then you know, I think it's one of the hottest topics, right.
I mean functional mushrooms have exploded over the last five years.
So you know three key areas, right, sleep, brain or
like improving focus and immune function. And I think those
are you know, really, when you think about it, those
(14:06):
are key things consumers are interested in.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Oh absolutely, I think it's a I think this is
a game changing type of product, Doctor Jim. You know,
I've been telling listeners Wh've been doing some series about
how the body is this biological masterpiece. In today's world,
this the masterpiece. It's constantly under siege. We were more
stressed and distracted than any generation in recent memory.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
I think.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Seeing a company like Wakanaga, who we all trust for
their clinical studies, they step into this functional mushroom space,
I think this is massive and they're not just following
this trend which we know the no. Functional mushrooms are
very trendy right now. They're they're providing at Waucanaga this
precision tool with the research, the backing, and this is
(14:55):
something that the body can actually do its job. So
I want to disc us the why why is Kylelic
doing mushrooms plus and the specifically these formulas with the
age garlic extract.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Yeah, you know, I think that the the first thing
is is that you know, there's a lot of as
you know when you look at botanical medicine, there's a
lot of synergy that occurs between different botanical ingredients. So
the thought of you know, h garlic or garlic with
mushrooms pretty important. I think the three areas they focused
(15:30):
on or key areas that consumers are interested in it.
I mean from ages twenty to eighty, you know, the
whole thought of stress, cognition, vitality.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Right, So I think, you know, those are the big areas.
Is you know why.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
They were interested in kind of mapping it out with
age garlic because age garlic applies to all those individuals
as well, different pathways, different things are going on when
you combine a garlic with these mushrooms. But I think
you're pretty I think I think it was a pretty
novel idea, you know. And I've talked to the scientists
at Waukanaga on multiple occasions, and you know, they're very
(16:12):
thoughtful about what they're doing. And that's why I've respected,
you know, the Wakanaga family uh of brands for so
long because you know, the science is really they lean
into the science side.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, they're they're great with that. And
you mentioned the word synergy, and I think that's big here.
And I know, in my practice, I see so many
people taking this this shotgun approach to to supplements, if
you will. You know, they take a little of this,
a little, a little of that, but they're just shooting
from the hip, trying to get something to stick. And
(16:48):
I think by pairing age garlic extract with these these mushrooms,
the functional mushrooms, you're you know, Waucanaga is creating this
this metabolic force multiplier. You know, you're huge in this
metabolic space. So that the age garlic extract, we know,
it's one of the most research garlic supplements on the
on the planet. And then you're you're your layer in
(17:08):
this foundation with the the the signaling, the specific signaling,
if you will, of these functional mushrooms. And I think
that's hidden this biological sweet spot. You know, we're solving
solving the problem of today with this age old wisdom
and then we got this current science with it. And
I think, I think that's that's huge in the space.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
And you know, and the thing is is that honestly,
it's one of the most age garlic extract, Kyle. It's
one of the most research dietary supplements that I know
of period and in any category. I mean, I don't
know that many companies that continue to publish new data
(17:47):
on their product, right, And so that that's why I
just think it's important that we support groups that are
really into proving that natural therapies work and they're a
value and may even provide better support for people in
their everyday lies. Right, So I think it's you know,
I think it just is absolutely I'm excited to see
(18:10):
these new products out.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah yeah, And you you mentioned the three different formulas briefly,
doctor Jim. We got you know a few minutes here
before break. But what kind of mushrooms are used in
these three different formulas?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Sure, I mean they use rishi mushroom on sleep, they
use lions Maine for the focus or the smart formula,
and then they have a combination of mushrooms for the
immune formula that's Chaga, cortyceps and turkey tails. So you know,
I think, once again, super thoughtful and what they what
(18:48):
they selected.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, yeah, this is a great a great lineup and
all star lineup if you will, in the in the
fungal Kingdom right there. You know, you got some heavy hitters.
You're not right, you're talking to out a one random
mushroom just place in a product you're getting. You're getting
these very specific species that have been shown to move
that needle when it comes to that biological function. And
(19:12):
these are you know, whether we're talking about that neurological
support of lions main or that that deep cellular type
of protection of turkey taiale. They're not just ingredients at
that point, they're biological keys. So so we can discuss
that in a little bit greater detail. If you went
unlock that higher level of function, you have to you
have to to lay lay out those right keys and
(19:34):
and doctor Jim, can you kind of see how those keys, uh,
lay those out a little bit for our listeners just
a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Yeah, Well, I mean the first step is is if
if you think of let's combine it with age garlic. Right, So,
with age garlic you have all this kind of decrease
in inflammation signaling that occurs, which is kind of foundational
to get people feeling.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Well and having vitality. Right.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
So there's that, and then there's the fact so on
the sleep formula, for example, Rishi, which helps with calming
the nervous system, reducing sympathetic stress kind of synergistically in
a little different way than how aged garlic actually had
some early clinical trials. And of course with the lowering
blood pressure, you know it reduces sympathetic dominance, but Rieschi
(20:23):
is working more. It's supporting the inhibitory side of your
nervous system in your brain so that you're really getting
this calming signal, and you know it's that direct impact
on you know, receptors like GABBA, decreasing glutamate excitation in
the neurons, you know, really important for getting people to
(20:44):
calm down, feel more at ease. On the focus side, obviously,
you know, you look at lions Made, it's been around
for a while, you know, obviously it's been out there.
And when you improve you know, decreasing inflammation signaling, improving
(21:05):
brain derived neurotropic factor, improving the kind of like the
signaling of concentration and focus through dopamine all very important,
you know, and you know Lionsman does a great job
of supporting that.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
But once again, you know, remember.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
You need increased blood flow, you need decreased oxidative stress
in your brain, and that's what age garlic does. So
there's that combination of providing better blood flow, better oxygenation,
less free radical activity, combined with the effect of the mushroom.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
So again we're talking with doctor Jim Laval. He is
talking today about kyolics, the age garlic extract in adding
functional mushrooms to that.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
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Speaker 3 (22:14):
And welcome back. You're listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
I'm doctor Adam Brockman and Doctor Bob and I were
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(22:35):
toll free hotline which is eight hundred six zero six
eighty two to two. Again, that's eight hundred six zero
six eight A two two. And today we're talking with
doctor Jim Leval and we're talking about uh Waucanaga of America.
The recent press release that they have have now added
specialty series Mushrooms plus to their age Garlic extract. And
(22:59):
before before the break, we were just starting to get
into the benefits of each each of these They light
out three new new products, the Coyolic Mushrooms plus Sleep
Formula that Coolic Mushrooms plus Smart formula in the Kyolic
Mushrooms plus Immune formula. So doctor Jim, I want to
(23:21):
get into more about the benefits of each of these formulas.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
So, I mean, obviously when you have rishi mushroom, reshie
is a calming extract.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
So you know, when you.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Look at medicinal mushrooms, it's like, well, what is what
is it mainly doing? When you can't sleep, it's because
of hyper arousal unless you have apnea, right, if you've
got obstructed apnea, that's a different story. But if it's
be hey, man, I can't get to sleep, I can't
stay asleep, it's because your brain is hyper aroused, and
that means you have to activate the inhibitory side of
(23:54):
your nervous system. You're either sympathetic dominant or not. If
you're sympathetic dominant, your brain typer aroused. When your brain
typer aroused, that's called hyper arousal of the HPA.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Axis, and that is insomnia.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
So you want to take something that's going to help
dampen that hyper you know, you know, sympathetic stimulated brain.
Riesche does a great job of reducing that stimulation through
it helping the inhibitory neurotransmitters to to fire. So things
like GABA, you know, super important to kind of help
(24:30):
calm things down, and age garlic extract does the same thing.
It's why it lowers blood pressure in multiple human trials.
It dampens that sympathetic response, So, you know, so rieschi
inhibitory cycle to help calm your brain at night and
then be able to allow you to be able to
go into a deeper sleep age. Garlic is going to
(24:53):
help with that sympathetic stress as well. Now the next
one is lions made. So lions Main a lot of
different uses for Lion's Main, but in this particular, uh,
you know thought it is to enhance focus. You enhance
focus through a couple different ways. One, you decrease neuroinflammation
(25:15):
so that your brain doesn't feel foggy. Everybody talks about
oh my god, I get to two o'clock and I
can't think. I'm not you know, I'm just foggy headed.
I don't like making decisions after two My processing speeds slower.
So decreasing inflammation great. But the other side is to
support When you decrease that, you support dopamine activation, and
(25:39):
dopamine is the neurotransmitter for focus, and so what lions
Main does is helped provide a benefit to both of those,
dampening that neuroinflammatory response, improving on dopaminergic transmission so that
your brain can actually at three o'clock you can make
a decision that are relying on a triple latte with
(26:03):
extra sugar, right, which is what people end up doing.
So I really like you know, Lions Made has got
so much research behind it, so I really like that
they chose Lions Made. And then on the immune system,
it's a little more complex, all right. You've got Chaga,
corty EEPs, and turkey tail.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Well, turkey tail's old school. If you remember S C. T.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
You know that there's a turkey tail has been around
a long time.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Is a general immune support. So what are you looking
for for immune support? Well, you want you want to
stimulate your.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Natural killer cells and mature your T killer cells so
that they're actually able to go out and fight something
off and keep your immune system imbalance. Interestingly, age garlic
extra helps to stimulate gamma delta T killer cells, so
which are the active T killer cells, and it does
(27:00):
it in the intestine. So when you combine that with
the capacity of these three mushrooms, each of which kind
of support the immune system in a little bit different way.
Turkey tails pretty straightforward on stimulating those NK cells and
those T cells to go out and find things that
don't belong in your body, you know, and have a
good fight. Cort accepts a little bit more adaptogenic, you know,
(27:26):
and that it helps with oxygenation of your of your
tissues in your body. You hold onto your oxygen longer
on your red blood cell. And in addition to that,
it supports other metabolic functions like kidney function, endurance, stamina.
So if you're working out regularly and you go, you
(27:46):
know what, when I work out too hard.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I get sick.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
This would be an ideal formula for someone to take
because h garlic extract has been shown to help people
to recover quicker from exercise, especially in the over forty.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Group, and you add these mushrooms to it.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Now you get the full potential of that particular you
know formula because of its ability to help people if
they're living an active lifestyle, and if you're not, you're
just concerned about getting sick. I don't think people do
enough for their chronic immune health, you know, So taking
something on a regular basis combining age garlic with the mushrooms,
(28:24):
so having that kyolic immune mushrooms plus formula really does
give you a nice broad spectrum approach.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, I agree. And folks, we're talking with doctor Jim
Leval and we're talking about the Coyolic mushrooms plus formulas
that they've come out that combined the age garlic extract
and we're talking about Coyolics mushrooms plus sleep formula, the
smart formula in the immune formula and coyolic products. They
(28:53):
are available nationwide through finer retailers. And if you want
to know more information on this, uh this great lineup
of mushroom plus products that you can read the press
release the research behind it. I encourage you to visit
kyolic dot com. That's spelled k y o lic dot com,
(29:13):
k y O l i c dot com, or you
can call them directly at eight hundred four two one
two nine nine eight. Again it's eight hundred four two
one two nine nine eight, and I got a lot
of great information and specialists that are willing to help
you there. It's coyolic dot com or eight hundred four
two one two nine nine eight. All right, doctor Jim,
(29:38):
before we just got a minut or so before break,
But what part of the mushroom is used is used
in these products?
Speaker 5 (29:45):
So for what there's a lot of different ways you
can do mushrooms. What's used from kyolic is fruiting body.
So it's the fruiting body is what you see on top, right.
My celium is what's growing on. So they use the
fruiting body, all organic, all farmed, forty years experience at
(30:05):
doing it. And I think that's the other thing it's
important about Wakanaga. They look for the best raw materials possible,
so you know, so it's interesting, right, it's got that
you get that big fruiting body is what we're utilizing
to make these.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yeah, and that's important here because that fruiting body, like
doctor Jim mentioned, is the actual mushroom and this is
where that high potency lives. So Kyle look is giving
you that that top shelf part of the part of
the mushroom. And doctor Jim, we got a you gotta
take a good short break. When come back, I want
to get into some rapid fire questions on mushrooms that
our audiences is definitely going to want to want to hear. Again,
(30:42):
we're talking with doctor Jim Laval and we're talking about
kyols mushroom plus products with the age garlic extract. We'll
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Speaker 3 (33:01):
So welcome back, doctor Adam Brockman here as we returned
to the Doctor Bob Martin Show, America's number one health
(33:23):
talk radio program. Today, we're talking with doctor Jim Laval
about kyolic age garlic extract functional mushroom products that they
just we just read the press release. It's an exciting announcement.
I know there's a lot of questions on mushrooms out there,
doctor Jim, So I want to get into some just
rapid fire questions that I think our audience is going
(33:44):
to find very exciting. So so first off, let's just
talk about what are functional mushrooms?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Yeah, functional?
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Yeah, so functional mushrooms or mushrooms that have health promoting properties. Now, yeah,
you could say it used to be you could say
there's color mushrooms, but a lot of people use functional
mushrooms is part of their culinary experience now, right, So
a lot of people cook with these functional mushrooms as well.
(34:11):
But basically, the functional mushroom is one that has a
lot of bioactive compounds in it. So the beta glue
cans obviously helped stimulate kind of the decked in one
receptors which are really potent for the immune system.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Terpenes, other compounds are in there.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
As well, and and then of course you know there's
the other side of fully uh, you know, medicinal mushrooms
like what are being used right now, Like the psychedelic
mushrooms that all the research is being done on.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
But you think of these.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Mushrooms functional mushrooms just supply the nutrients your body needs
in order to feel better, in order to function better
and to be able to be resilient to the to
the kind of the areas that we were talking about,
which was sleep, focus and immune function.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Yeah, you mad made a good point.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
There's a lot of research happening on on the different
types of mushrooms that are out there, including the psychedelic
for instance, with with with trauma. That's a that's a
topic we can do, we can do a whole hour
on sometimes. But today we know we're focusing on on
the functional functional properties of mushrooms. And in the cholic products.
(35:20):
Now are we talking about is it containing a powder
or is this an extract?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
In these Yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
It's actually powders are a little bit less potent than
the concentrations because when you when you create extracts, it
actually you know, one it creates more mass of actives,
which really allows you to create more bioavailability and a
(35:51):
greater amount.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Of utilization because of the extraction.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
So you know, you get optimal potency when you when
you use an extract which you have to look on
the label. When people you know, list their mushrooms, a
lot of times it'll say, you know, chaga powder, resheet
powder versus the extracts which are concentrated.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
And so if we're if we're talking about this, you know,
I know, kyolic I made to mention that that these
products are full spectrum. So what what does this mean
to be full spectrum? And why is this so important?
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Yeah, I mean the full spectrum side.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Why it's important is to get the full benefit from
the mushroom.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Right. So if you're.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Thinking about, well, gee, I want to use this fruiting body,
and I want to get all the constituents that could
possibly act as signals to take either take my body
back to homeostasis or to help my body improve performance
or to help.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Me fight something. Uh, you know, you are better off
with a.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
Full spectrum compound that is, you know, basically naturally occurring
found in the you know, in the organically produced mushroom.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Right, So you're really looking to get.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
That the widest amount of bioactives possible.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
And another question that's going to come up about the
mushrooms is is this organic and is this avoiding those
synthetic pesticides.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Yeah, it's a big deal, right, I mean, I think
more and more people are getting aware of the value
of organic and so not all mushrooms in dietary supplements
are organic. In fact, it would have to list it,
so you look on the label, just like does it
say powder or not? Would it say organic or not.
(37:44):
A lot of commercial mushroom producers could use pesticides, especially
fungicides or insecticides, because they can be prone to that,
you know, to get obviously in their in order to
grow and reduce like pest exposure and lose yield because
of that exposure.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Right.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
But you know organic providers actually you know they don't
use synthetic pesticides, the utilized natural methods, which actually when
you think about it, and you know, here's this thing,
doctor Adam. It's it's like when you allow that plant
or mushroom to grow naturally and fully like in the
(38:25):
organic state, you get that fuller spectrum of nutrients that
can be embodied. Right, So it should say it on
the on the fact sheet if it's organic or not.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, And folks, that is your quick checklist on kyola,
especially series mushroom plus products, and I want I want
every listener to to write write down what we just
talked about. Go back and listen to it if if
you need to, and also go to kyolic dot com
that's spelled k U y O l i c dot
(38:57):
com and you can see the research, you can see
the product, you can see exactly what's in there. And
you know, you know, we have to to try to
be our own best doctors most of the time. And
this the industry as as a whole a lot of times.
And we're talking about the food industry, uh, you know,
wellness industry a lot. There's a lot of stuff out there.
(39:17):
It's just full of marketing fluff. And doctor Jim is
here today and he's just given us that that clinical
that that fluff detector, so to speak. So so if
there's companies out there that's not transparent about their sourcing are,
if they're they're hiding uh things in the products, you know,
they just don't deserve a place in your in your
(39:38):
supplement cabinet. And Kyolak is checking every one of those
boxes because they respect the customer and they respect the science.
With that, and doctor Jim, we just got a few
minutes left in the show. Gotta take quick break, but
we come back. I just want to get your final thoughts.
We're talking with doctor Jim Leval and you're listening to
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Welcome back, Doctor Adam Brackman here, and you're listening to
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Speaker 4 (41:20):
Today.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
We've been talking with our good friend in colleague, doctor
Jim Laval and he's been talking about Kyolics the Specialty series,
the Mushroom Plus series. So I want you to think
better sleep is sleep better and feel better with it
with this series. It's it's a great addition to Coyolic's
age garlic extract lineup. They got a lot of great products.
(41:41):
I encourage you to head over to their website at
coolic dot com. And doctor Jim, I want to thank
you again for being our guest today and let me
go ahead and remind our listeners where Coyolic Mushroom Plus
products the formulas are available. So Coyolic Specialty Series Mushroom
Plus formulas are available at your local natural health stores
nationwide and online. And for more information about Kyolic or
(42:05):
to find that retailer nearest you, again, the website is
Kyolic dot com. You can also call their specialists at
their toll free hotline which is eight hundred four one
two nine nine eight. Again it's eight hundred four one
two nine nine eight. So, doctor Jim, we've been talking
a lot about the specific mushroom species that are for
(42:26):
formed in each of these these formulas. But I want
to talk briefly here because they got a lot of
other great ingredients and we talked about ah garlic extract.
But what what do each of these supplements contain as
far as those other ingredients go?
Speaker 5 (42:42):
Yeah, you know, I mean, I think the big thing
just people need to realize when they pick up mushrooms
to start, is that make sure that it matches what
you're trying to accomplish, right, So a lot you know,
so you may see, oh it's uh, it's it's got
(43:02):
a regano in it, or it has you know, a
bunch of the nutrients you should have, like something for
your immune system maybe, you know. So I think that's
the big piece that a lot of times people don't realize.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
So when you look at the sleep formula, for.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
Example, you know it's got the ing in it, Valerian
root in it in addition to mushrooms, so the ing
calming decreases the glutamate side. Valerian's been known as a
calming compound so that's for the sleep formula, and then
(43:43):
of course with the immune formula, zinc a regano extract
got to be twelve in it. Of course, a regano
being great is an antibacterial, anti viral zinc supported for
the immune system, so you know, really important there.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
And then of course the the.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
Smart mushroom extract, Aronia Berry's Selenium B twelve in addition
to the Lions main and the age Garlic extract. So
in other words, they're picking compounds that exactly fit the
purpose of the formula instead of just seeing kind of
a one size fit all effect.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Well that's great information, Doctor Jim. It's always a pleasure
to have you on the show, and thank you again
for joining us and bringing that heat today. If folks,
the takeaway is simple. Your health it needs to be intentional.
You can't just hope for energy or focus and sleep.
You have to provide those biological conditions for them to exist.
I'm doctor Adam Brockman. I want you to take charge
(44:46):
of the physician within and treat your body like the
masterpiece it is. We'll see you next hour on the
Doctor Bob Martin Show, presented by Health Talk America.
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