No me toques la cabeza - 3x10 - Hola, Mundo

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You' re listening to Hello Worldthe podcast of Rubén Señor y Lucía Sánchez,
creators of the travel blog something toremember dot com Hello. Welcome,

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welcome to a new podcast program HelloWorld, program three of season ten.
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with today' s show and voicemails. Well, well, well, well,

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super strong moment we just lived atWarsaw airport. And I' m
still a little shocked with this,because there was a piano, the typical
piano that you find in some publicplaces with that idea that a wonderful pianist

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appears and suddenly plays a play andwe all get crazy there let' s
say qaw that concert that we justenjoyed thanks to the generosity of someone from
this airport who has put here agrand piano. And then, well,
because we were on that grand pianoand coquitinda they were already playing the piano,

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because the style that the children play, which is rather pulsing keys.
And I understand that you should notlet them trample the instrument or treat it
badly. But it is also truethat, as a mother, I will
say that in these years I haverealized your levels of what is annoying to

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you, are very different from thelevels of those who live, for example,
in the most absolute silence or whodo not share their day- to
- day with children, because inthe end the brain is so, that
is, this is about pure andhard survival. So if you couldn'
t stand the noise the kids makeon a basal basis, you' d

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either have jumped over a bridge oryou' d already be gone or whatever.
But then the brain adapts naturally andby rubbing, because in the end
the sea that is colliding there againstthe rock, because it goes rounding it
little by little and takes out,because, therefore, those small crystals that
are on the beaches. So,my level of hearing noise that I can

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handle, because it' s probablymuch higher than that of other people.
That doesn' t mean I thinkeveryone else in the world has to stand
up to the noise of my kids. Then I understand that someone might come
and tell me, hey. They' re giving the piano a lot of
strength, please tell them no oreven tell him to come up and tell

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him guys. This is a piano. Let' s try to touch it
more gently. So, well,they were there playing Tiktiki. I was
there with them, I mean,they weren' t alone at all and
I abandoned them and I had gonesomewhere else. I was talking to someone
else. I was there with them, but it seemed to me that everything
was fine. You could see thingswere going a little bit of a mother,

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but hey, it' s notthat strong. Or whatever, and
suddenly a possessed man approaches me,he approaches like that, but I mean,
it wasn' t just how heyelled at me in Polish, it
was body language, not how healmost threw himself at us. The children
were not imagined at this point,down here I was standing and coming was
not taller than me. The truthwasn' t too big. He was
an old man, and he getslike that, and they stick my face,

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and he starts yelling at me.No, and then I' m
lucky, because I' m alsoa very empathetic person, not very empathetic,
very mimetic, empathetic, I thinkit was also but well, it
wasn' t the word mimetic.So it' s very complicated to me
that if someone yells at me oryells at me, if someone talks violently

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to me, don' t reactviolently. No, but I recognize that,
as he saw his faces looking atme as a coquiy shop down there,
as something inside me, as hemaintained that desire to respond to the
lord in the same intensity and withthe same violence. And then I stayed
like that and I told Serry inEnglish plich. And then this already took

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the demons even more because of course, what he wanted to express he couldn
' t express it called his wife, came to the woman like a crazy
woman walking also like that with thatnonverbal language that is telling you, understand
that you here are not well received. Not then did he approach. So
said yorcats and orquets dayard making outof noyce yorchests you jaf your control yurkts

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yes no and I ok I saidibsorry, I said good. I'
ll talk to them. If you' re bothering them, I' m
sorry I wasn' t bothering you, you want me to tell you,
but good. I had understood thatit was more or less not for me,
it was not a mistreating the piano, it was a playing the piano,

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as the children play it. Imean, I didn' t see
them kicking him or any of thiseither. But well, they touch us
well, obviously, and I alsounderstand that well, because if the person
is there, it is bothering him, because it is, I tell him
and they stop, but the thingwas how not to approach so disorbited and
so out of itself. And thenI said please viple light and they told

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me pol light or like to YuYuan not going by Pao light you down
youron control yurkits and I went backto that word all the time, that
word that is also like terrifying.But why do we have to think that
we have to control another human beingis worth it or I can tell you,

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I' ll tell you I canset the limit, but what'
s that about control, that's control. There they have to be
an extension of your body, dowhatever you want and be controlled. It
' s like Mrs Total, wholeft, is that it was so frightful

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that the rest of the people whowere there stayed on board as well.
Well, they' re old people, and that' s why I didn
' t get a little more intotrouble either. No, but Rubén,
who was talking on the phone away, tells me" flippao" because I
was waiting for your reaction, becausethat' s what I am, not
that I mean, if my nosesare too weird to respond as in peace

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and I said good. I answeredlike this because I didn' t want
Coquetin Daya to see that the gentlemenhad done it wrong and I didn'
t get worse because in the endthen it was like explaining it. Two
of them were also very surprised becausethey didn' t understand why a person
suddenly speaks to you like that,no, it' s a person who
appears out of nowhere and comes andspeaks to you has as a way to

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approach you so aggressive and in theend, in time, I think it
has given me as much sadness.Actually, a lot of sadness. And
I think in general this is somethingthat you think about many times when someone
gets very nervous, when the childrenare moving on a plane or when they

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are, because that makes more noisethan that person can stand. When we
live in a world where there isless and less noise in general, there
are fewer children, that is,how could I live before people if in
each family there were seven children whohad them all day in silence. Or
I don' t know. ThenI think many times that there are people

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who connect with that moment of theirchildhood in which someone stopped that behavior a
lot in a very directive way,and this leads to that discomfort to the
discomfort, that is, it connectswith that memory that stays in the body.

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In the end, what we alreadyknow about memory, unconscious memory,
what is the unpleasant situation and traumawe can erase, but the body,
always in the body, is noterased and stays there. Not then.
This is something to think about tooand I think about it many times,
also when a situation is occurring thatbothers me. Why does that situation bother

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me so much, I mean,why does a child jump or why that
a Y does not talk, obviously, about things that rub the vandalism of
children, tearing away taking glass glassesand throwing them against windows, I mean,

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I don' t talk about thingsthat are really wrong, but I
talk about small acts of everyday lifethat those who live with children understand that
it' s a pretty natural wayto function, so it happens throughout the
day quite a few times that childrenmove around because they move, or that
children talk a little louder than others, even if they explain many times we

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' re going to lower the toneor whatever. Here you talk a little
bit less things like what brings thesepeople with what memory of their childhood they
connect with to feel so suddenly outof themselves and so badly not, because

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I have seen it and this getsme out of the theory sleeve. I
don' t know if you'll agree with me, like a lot
of people who feel uncomfortable in frontof childhood have had shitty childhoods and it
' s sad to say and withthis word, but that' s it.

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They don' t want to talkabout their childhood. Many have no
memories of their childhood that have directlyerased them and their childhood is something like
that they are very disconnected from theirperson. Today. It' s not
a stage like it' s goodit' s not already and then this

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childhood that suddenly gets ahead of youtakes you to that moment. And that
' s a thought that also helpsme how to address these situations with a
little more compassion for those people.I don' t mean sad or maybe
over time I' ve thought aboutit and I think maybe what I should

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have opened up would have been togive the lord a hug and tell him
I' m really sorry if whenyou were a kid, the people who
had to have looked after you andwanted to explain things this way and they
thought they had to have control ofyour person. And I' m not

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talking about not setting limits is worthit for me, this whole situation would
have been different if they had comeand told me to look. We'
re eating at that table and we' re going crazy with the piano.
You can tell them to stop pleaseand I would have told them, I
would have said, hey, guys, we hadn' t noticed, because
you don' t really realize thatsomeone is bothering them, because IT isn

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' t then, but you don' t want to trample the world above
IT, that is, hey itwas bothering this person, because I would
have said today I' m sorry, I haven' t noticed and it
' s and we' re goingto play any smaller, looser, or

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so look, they' re here, there are some people who are older
and who are getting nervous about howwe' re playing the piano. Or
whatever, then we' re gonnaquit. But the way, the way
to get the situation to stop wasvery catastrophic. It' s been very
catastrophic. This in short, tokeep thinking about childhoods and above all,

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what the well that leaves our childhoodin us, in our life as adults,
in how we face situations, inhow we react and, above all,
to those situations that we do nothave control over. Because I do
see that of course there is asubject here that when we are clear that
a situation in which there is anotherperson can be solved by the physical base

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force or by a required authority,that is, you don' t do
this because, because I, whoam another person, who am older than
you, I say it and pointand you don' t have to question
anything else, because in the end, of course, we don' t
develop even negotiating tools. We donot develop to explain why we do not
develop empathy for others. Nor becausein the end I' m not stopping

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him from doing something because someone elsetold me, but not because I think
I upset this person, that is, there wasn' t a connection either,
but I just got an order andI complied with an order that at
the time seemed effective, but then, in the long run, well,
there' s a lot of momentsin history where it would have been great

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for people not to follow orders,but to question orders. Perhaps we would
have spared ourselves quite a few historicaldramas if people did not follow orders,
because yes, because in addition tofollowing an order frees you from the responsibility

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of the act. In the end, I don' t know an order,
that is, my superior told meto do this and I have to
press the button and gas out,that is, people who want me to
tell you to follow an order die. This frees us from much responsibility.
Of course this is all about Polandgenocide and such is very connected. It

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' s very connected beyond where wewere and where people were from. I
don' t think that really matters, but the situation was this way and
I was given to reflect. Hegave me to reflect on all this.
I' ll love to know,you know, after this blasting voice message,

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' s a heyworld sign. Thepoint is, then, now I get
angry and I don' t breathe. Well then in this section of comments

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and judgments I have not asked youfor networks and in life in general,
but well, in this case fornetworks. I want to talk about a
rill that we went up at thetime, on a trip that we made
coke and I because dad to Barcelona, we went ten days there, the
two of us and we were onthe beach there in Barceloneta and I said

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goodbye such a moment I don't know how good we are in a
maco that likes to investigate on itsown. I' m already looking for
it because there' s kind oflike a half- good, I don
' t know a surface with atower or something and it was on the
other side. I looked for himand I see him as a low face.
I' ve been with the mylbecause I was taking pictures and,
as always, he has interesting thingsto say, because I did like him,
I made him worse what' swrong with you and then he let

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go of this to see what happensto you that I see you a little
overwhelmed. What is it that peoplewere suddenly touching my father or my mother
to tell you someone unknown. Iknow why they touch kids, people in
the head and that and you don' t like kids, you don'

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t like that tradition. I don' t know why it' s tradition
I like people, as well astouching children there as Hello, Hello,
Hello, how it is of John, Yes, suddenly, suddenly, who
you are, sir or you.But well, because it' s my
fault. Of course, we hadto ask, we would have to ask

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or whether it was the parents ora family or a friend. Well,
uh, what a ha. Well, as if your father, I'
m going to take advantage of ay, ay, ay, of course,

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I hadn' t seen anything,but he was like a cabizón. I
was there like this tires me alittle bit you know it came from time,
but long before, with curls,brutal loops and kind of touched his
head a lot. I know thisis a tradition, a tradition we'
re going to say well, thatwhich hasn' t touched the children'

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s head in a long time.You' re flyers, even when you
were little. I remember that.The muffle give me a kiss, kiss
the lady. Ma' am,there with the moustaches, there' s
a you know ah boy. Iremember I didn' t like that.
I don' t remember, Idon' t like it, but I
' ve never seen it realized howhe verbalized it, I mean, I
stayed a little. So, well, we talked a little bit, but
look at people do it a littlebit for this, but I understand if

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you don' t like it,then say it next time. When you
see someone you' re with,come on. So, the first time,
maybe, he doesn' t,or he' s more attentive.
Well, in the end, thekids from their defenselessness, because there it
' s not like that good.It' s in the public domain,
they' re warm, they're chuchable, okay, and it'

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s like wanting to give someone elsea token of affection, but it'
s true that we wouldn' tdo this with an adult. With an
adult we don' t go downthe street doing it like that, rubbing
people' s heads. Then itcaught a lot of attention to me.
I sent it to Lucy and soI say look what she said, this
thing that happened and I thought itwas amazing that she could verbalize what she

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felt that way. I mean,you know nothing, then. You came
up with the possibility of sharing it. We asked Co that it was okay,
also because whenever we expose ourselves innetworks we try to make it useful,
okay not because Mira I am eatingan ice cream that we also do
like this. Yes, for example, we are doing the ten most popular

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laughs in Barcelona. Well, nowlet' s have the list and so
on, but we' re notjust like me and my ice cream you
know that well. Everyone has theirred line, their stuff. We'
ve got each other. The onewe have worth. The point is that
we upload the video and there arepeople who are perceived and as there are
always people who thought it was worthit. Okay, I mean, if
everything you do likes the world wrong, then this is gonna think that those

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fifty- fifty other things, likeyou say that' s what we'
re going to with this section ishow you say it. You can give
your opinion, make it possible tobe constructive, but there are times when
you get out of hand and evenif you might be right what is debatable,
you can lose it in the rightway and I say discuss it,

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because well, this is a totallysubjective or objective thing. Okay, as
you look at it, and eachof you somehow, then I' m
gonna look, better, worse,the same. You count it well,
and from there we can enter intodebate, but automatically, because look well,
you know machetazo and if on top, for whatever reason, you disrespect

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directly, delete delete. We arenot to delete comments messages as long as
we lack respect directly. Okay wellI' ll read you some elrill is
on Instagram. You can enter ourprofile and look for it and there you
see it whole and you see allthe comments a lot. Okay, good.
I' m going to read acouple of them already go kids.

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You' ve learned the script verywell with how beautiful it is to go
out on the street and get toknow other people and all the people.
We are little people with a heart. Teach your children to be empathetic,
not competitive, you don' tprotect your children from the world they live
in. Anyway, everything has tobe squeamish or loving ole people. This,

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of course, is someone who knowsnothing, because if we try to
inculcate coke inkaya, it is beingempathetic. And besides, they' re
kids that you see and they talkto everyone on the second one to get
there. They are not at allshy, they develop very independently, they
get a lot of things, theytalk to people. Anyway, that'
s it. I don' tknow if one day you don' t

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see him around and you go outthere with them and you' re going
to say that hoops and stuff aren' t. Now maybe. He doesn
' t like you rubbing his headto see the genius coming out of his
ear. You know first for thatto happen and you get to die a
port and like it. But itwasn' t my son. Most people
probably don' t try to talkto the child. With the girl plays

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a little chat so she might notmind and don' t bother her.
But of course, that' sa lot more tired than it is.
Rested, rested talking to tired children, very tired. So I' m
already yielding their heads and it's already at the best of comment.
That father instilling his thoughts in thechild. They with their innocence, they
don' t account for that.I talk because I was a kid and

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that' s the father' sstory. If you were a child like
everyone else, like everyone else andvery well, what can I tell you,
for that is not that your opinionis the only one in the world,
because you were a child and youspeak to us from the future or
the past to a parallel dimension.You were a child like me as well
as everyone else. I don't inculcate anything like that into you like

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I say this and reproduce it.I mean, that came out completely casually
and fortuitously. If you want tobelieve it well and if not, also
what happens is that it is abit surprising that the child expresses himself in
this way. Yeah, you seehim here anyway There' s a day
to come and talk to him.You' re gonna see that I'
m not putting my hand up hisshirt, moving his mouth and talking with
a voice, as well as claw. You know by the nono he'

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s the one who talks alone andhe' s expressing himself that way.
That' s what has to travela lot I' ll also tell you
to many countries. He' sbeen in a lot of places, he
' s talked to a lot ofpeople, he' s gone a lot
of museums, he' s seena thousand things. So that' s
what' s got a lot ofworld, a lot of world, has
a lot of life for his sevenyears. You just know. Here'
s what I can tell you.And another more randomly caught that is short

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two words, that Gilipollez ole youknow clearly that yes, you see,
there is a text such a childthat is counting and that good Gilipollez,
because very well. There are alsomany things. They look like Gilipollez to
me, it' s life,and most of them, because I think
about it, you know, butgood. I' m saying it,

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especially when I don' t knowthe historical, the environment, what happens
when everything goes to people is verydifficult, that well, I don'
t just say what bullshit you've done, what bullshit. To what
you said you know unless there's a direct attack, a confrontation,
a something after you know it goesto the conversation and in the end,
you can explode and that and you' re out of control. But that

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' s first, like I don' t see it worth it, so
good to put you in a littlebit of a position. That you'
re on the beach that, forwhatever reason your son scout is, takes
a moment and comes a little cabi bajo and releases this roll to you.
And this one doesn' t knowwho it was or anything, because
I think it' s okay,to make it manifest. Then it happened

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to us in others. It happenedto us, for example, in Morocco
recently we were he already came withthat in his head. It' s
been a while. It' sbetter said that he doesn' t like
to have his head frugated. Andin Morocco they are very much given to
hug, to catch the children,to give the arm, to try kisses.
And he was already very on guard, very on guard with this subject.
He walked away, he knew,he controlled, he knows he likes

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it, he says no and hesays it and now you say you don
' t know what it is.Or you have that measure, that distance,
so it doesn' t happen toyou. Very well you' re
defending yourself carefully, not because you' re a child. Assume that any
adult, other person, but adultcan play well also Tindaya arrived in Morocco
and in well, everyone wanted tofeel brought to the girl, took her

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pictures and slowly in time, sheherself, with her two years, started
to say no, because she alreadysaw him too much you know. We
let that if it were okay eyesthat caught her at first she was already
happy she smiled. He thought itwas okay, okay, when it started
to look bad. We put ona little barrier, too, but she
was the same one that compared her. And all I mean, somehow it

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' s teaching boys, girls torespect each other' s care, respect
each other, have clear boundaries andknow how to stop someone else' s
approach, when it' s notwhat they want. Mine' s yours.
Anyway, this seems good to us, and if it' s bad

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for you, we don' tcare. You know with eight eyes around
the world. Some time ago,through social networks, of these little boxes

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of questions that we put someone leftthis question well, or shared with us
this concern that I had, thatI think very successful and on which I
would like to give a few flips, that is we have some children or
we have some breeds today in whichwe give everything to our children. Now

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we' re going to define thatit' s that everything is also clear
and this person was worried about thisgirl because we know that mostly there are
women on the other side and,if not men manifested more often, but
they manifest much more. They worriedhim and we will be able to make

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them understand that things cost an effortand that they can value that effort.
Well, first define that, whatis that all we give you all,
we mean everything on a material level? Are we talking about everything on a
personal level? Do we give everythingon a personal level? What would that

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be, because it is true thattoday we have it. We have much
easier access to all material things.The world has become smaller. Obviously,
we have a lot of connections wecan move. It is obvious that a
hundred years ago very few people couldgive their children trips like the ones we

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are giving them today and experiences likethose we have access to, because everything
has been democratized and it is simplerin that sense. We also have plenty
of access to much more information andwe also have more access to material level.
I mean, I always have thatconnection with that memory in which when

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I went to work in England,I took pictures in the supermarket in the
corridors where there were cakes and cakesand maffins of thousands of colors, because
here, in Spain, that didnot exist, and whole corridors of sauces,
because here, in Spain, atthat time what there was was mayonnaise
ketchup, mayonnaise mustard was mostly homemade, that is to say that it was

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already starting to come out and alreadycrazy, the sauce prayed, BARBACOA sauce
that was already crazy And there,in England there was an entire corridor that
was sauces and I said but howmany sauces exist. No, and then
I took pictures of that. Andnow, however, because listen it'
s as simple as going hallway,come on, pimba, this lame,
this other, colorful cakes, allyou want and beyond one floor, two

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stories of cucumber, boke pigment,sponge, from what you take in that
moment there is everything. So,the truth is, if we compare ourselves
to that kind of society, ithas cost us so much effort. Not
getting that either, that is ifsomeone wanted, that is for me it

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was a very valued trip for myparents to take me to Paris, because
it really cost a lot of effort, cost effort to my family did not
happen every year, but it wasnot so easy to do that at that
time. No, but it's just that going to Paris today doesn
' t cost half the effort myfamily took to get us there. So,

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if I want my children to valuea trip to Paris with the same
standard and with the same effort inquotation marks that cost my parents it'
s actually a lie, because ithasn' t cost Ruben and I the
same effort to take our children toParis, because there are crazy flights,
because we already have the euro andwe move more easily, because that is,

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millions of things that we have today, because we have a lot of
information on the networks, so itdoesn' t take so long to organize
a trip, because there are manythings that we can do on the go.
So the effort is actually less.That does not mean that there are
no things today that require an effort, because I think, for example,

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that writing a book requires that constancyand that effort. So there are so
many things that we can do,that require an effort and that in the
end, for me they are thatexample of what effort is and what it

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is to be able to value that, according to what things take a while.
But it' s not going tobe having the last album of the
band I like, because if beforeI had to wait a year, even
if I didn' t get thealbums of the band I liked and I

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had to bring it to a cousinof a friend who came from another country
put in his suitcase and I wasthe only one in the neighborhood who had
the album and came to the wholeneighborhood to listen to the album, because
that effort today is never comparable.I' m gonna hit the play and
in Spotify and that' s itand I' m gonna listen to it.
So I can' t expect mychildren to value the effort it takes
to get or travel to another countryfor us, compared to what it cost

(33:38):
my parents, because it' snot the same. That does not mean
in this life in which we livetoday there are no things that cost an
effort, because there are too,and I think this is a very personal
thought. That is, in theend, really the only way or the

(34:00):
best way, in my opinion,to teach our children what the effort is,
or to teach our children many ofthe values and things we want to
convey to them is to be whatwe want to convey to them, that
is, I really value the effortthey entail. According to what things do

(34:22):
I value in the efforts my childrenmake, according to what things? I
appreciate the efforts I make I dothings that require effort. I mean,
I' m a constant person,I' m a person who pursues his
goals until he achieves them. I' m a person so this yes,
I think it' s an exercisethat we can all do with that with

(34:44):
our children. I don' twant my son to have these values.
I want you to be creative,for example, I want you to question,
I want you to pursue your dreams, I want you to be passionate,

(35:05):
I want you to be, becauseI' m going to try to
become that person I want you tobe and that will be the example with
which they live. No, Imean, that' s in our hand,
in the hand of every father andevery mother or every person we'
re looking after, and we wantthem to grow up in that, in

(35:29):
valuing. I appreciate the efforts ofothers I appreciate the efforts my parents have
made for me, I appreciate theeffort of a friend who when he has
done me a favor, I valuemy efforts and I put my effort in
things really. Or, well,I' m a person that I don

(35:52):
' t really like to force myselfaccording to what things and what. And
so I think the key is there. Not to be us the people we
' d like them to be.And then, we' ll see what
happens, because you already know thathere you ask for a rosebush by letter
and you get an olive tree inmotherhood and what to do, because love

(36:15):
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The truth is that we' rerunning away with a survival Englishman or
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(36:37):
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(37:39):
s starting to get worried. He' s starting to be worried because I
thought this section wasn' t goingto have a lot of travel and as
things progress, I' m goingto see that it is. I'
ll see that yes, I havesome toks on the road. Anyway,
today' s one. Today's is to remove the label from the

(38:00):
plane, the backpack from the suitcasewhen it came to a new one.
I do this according to the luggagezone sago. We' ll go out
there, bring the family with thesuitcase, and I' ll take it
out of the trash. I've got the suitcase. I don'
t have anything to prove anymore.Uh, it' s mine, all
right, and what I want toprove from now on is that we'
re one more family. I'm one more in the environment. I

(38:22):
didn' t just get there You' re wondering, and that' s
good. I' ve developed atheory for myself, and it' s
that when I come to you withthe suitcase that you leave the plane at
the airport, it' s clearthat you just arrived, but you take
a bus a tas and I don' t know what. You get to
the site. You walk down thestreet and you go with the suitcase with
the labels hanging and it' sthat you' re a victim, a

(38:46):
possible victim. I' m gonnahook you up a little bit with the
prices. This is the other thing. You just got here. It'
s clear you haven' t takenthe place, that' s a process.
It' s two three four daysto get your prices. How does
the subject work a little bit andpay for things in the fairly fair price,
even if you are from outside,even if you are a tourist,
but of course, if you goon top already with a neon sign saying

(39:07):
I just arrived. Please, I' m here for you to take away
the money I have on me withoutviolence. I' m talking about that
with wit, with wit very well, that' s right there, too.
It' s legal, of course. There are people in many countries
who are living anyway and if youtake a dollar two a day, a

(39:28):
euro two a day, so home, you hear that you take. But
of course, you' re thereand you don' t want you to
know you' re going wrong,you don' t want to go wrong.
And I do this so we don' t get angry, either,
because of course you' re goingto another country and you don' t
want to be fooled in your littleheart. You feel like you' re
very smart, you know, andyou say to me, no one'

(39:51):
s gonna fool me. Well,it makes you fool anywhere in the corner
of your house. It is alsoso that the picaresca in which it is
then you are in another country andas if you are hurt by the pride
that deceives you with the prices,takes pride. So, well, until
you get a little bit between thetopic to know a little, such as
not giving clues, not giving clues, they' re going to make it

(40:14):
the same at some point. Youknow that' s for sure, it
' s impossible. We' vealready counted the tricks once. I mean,
you, if you' re ina country, abroad, whatever it
is and you want above all,let' s say with a more complicated
standard of living. Well, ofcourse if you, for example, want

(40:34):
to take a taxi, because thetaxi driver doesn' t ask when it
' s going to cost you Askthe shopkeeper on the corner where you bought
the water and if you want tobuy water, ask the taxi driver about
the water autea is worth more orless. Then of course, the labels
on the suitcase are a very obvioussign. It' s like throwing blood
into the ocean near a place wherethere are sharks. You know, you

(40:58):
' re provoking, because this isa little bit the same. Or if
I see it, I' lltake off the labels and like we'
re from there. You know it' s not like we' ve come
from seeing the family, but we' re from here all our lives to
see. It' s not thateither. But at least people don'
t know if you' re leavingor you' re coming, or you
' re changing hotels or coming fromanother city, or something is worth that
to me that, maybe, thisisn' t worth anything. But this

(41:20):
is a touch you remember not thatthe section is my tox on the road.
Well, this is a touch,so no. No. I'
m not looking here for a trial, or anything, or a pat on
the shoulder, or a hug likethe poor thing. You know what'
s wrong with you, it happensto me, it happens to me and
I do it and I' llkeep doing it. You know next trip.
As I got off label, dotball and that' s it,

(41:42):
something with the label would happen.No, I' m sure there wouldn
' t be a settequet for love. Yeah, you know, but listen,
I' ve done everything I canto inflection points. One of the

(42:15):
turning points of my life that cameon the road. You know that this
section about turning points in travel waswhen I was working in the Netherlands in
the middle of the race, becauseat the place where I worked in Madrid,
I also had a headquarters in avillage that was about a few kilometers

(42:38):
from Amsterdam and did many things.His marketing department was very active. So
I, then, forced a littletalking with my boss and my teams,
with the people I worked with inSpain, that it might be interesting that
I was there for a few monthsand that, then, I would learn

(42:59):
what they were doing there and,well, I could bring him to Spain
and that I could do great,because to improve my English, work in
an international market, etcetera. SoI went over there and the truth is
that my boss supported me a lot, put him in the direction and they
thought it was a very good ideaand they sent me there. Not then,

(43:20):
the thing was that there I wastouched by a boss who was quite
an asshole. This does not meanthat all the Dutch in cocoons, for
of course he did not have othercompanions who were not so. But it
was my turn to face me onthe one hand like that change from how
you work in a different place thanyou' re used to working. For
example, what happened to me wasthat in Spain you had to report virtually

(43:45):
all the movements you made to theperson who was directly your superior, and
there in Holland you worked in theNetherlands much more independent. In the first
week, as I arrived, Istarted copying him in the mails he sent
and he called me and told meI took a moment to me not copying
me in everything you send. Imean, this isn' t Chavala day
care. So you came here,you have your project, you have your

(44:08):
goals, you do them, andin the end, when the two or
three months that you' re goingto be here, you tell me what
you' ve done and we valuethe result, that you have some doubt.
You come and ask me, butyou' re not copying me everywhere
or asking everything, because this isunscentable. And I said it' s
okay, well, first little touchhere. Things do in a different way

(44:30):
than I' m used to.But this also happened to me on a
social level. Not me, allof a sudden, because I was riding
on the train, someone called meon the phone, took my cell phone
and then I looked around and sawthat people were with me. I mean,
I noticed looks as well as tension, like what you' re doing.

(44:52):
And I was saying I don't know the best people who are
I like to be aware of orthey hear Me speaking in Spanish and then
they found it different, striking Idon' t know until already a person
suddenly pointed to me one day aposter and then on the poster it said
that it was forbidden to talk onthe phone in public transports so as not
to disturb others. And I,ah, I' m sorry I didn

(45:15):
' t realize And like this alot more things. Not just getting on
the bus and never having physical contactwith anyone. The distance between the people
was kept much longer and I camefrom a city like Madrid, in which
I took the bus at seven o' clock in the morning to go to
the University was absolutely crushed like asardine stuck in a can and well,

(45:39):
they were like little things that Isomehow behaved not properly for the site and
that some people without the will towant to annoy and that the rest of
the world gave you the information tohear this here I don' t know

(46:00):
it is done not then, forme it was a turning point, because
it was to understand many times thebehavior also when someone who comes from another
culture arrives in our country and thereare many things that do not understand and
that is doing them in a waynot with the aim of annoying those who
live there, but because in theircountry of origin and in their culture they

(46:22):
do so. Not this that manytimes is like these who come from outside
and put the music high and thenyou go on vacation a month to their
country if you realize that it isthat there of the houses, the music
goes high. And this, farfrom being regarded as a nuisance to others,
is considered as a joy, itis considered as a sharing. If

(46:45):
you are the one who has amusic team, well, because sharing it
with others, well, they areways at the end of working, they
are different in each place and theyare not done with the aim of screwing
up others. Many times it's like I know, because people aren
' t and you have to seethese people of this culture who come together
in the parks and throw themselves inthere and lie all day talking to each

(47:09):
other and clear what they usually doin their country or come out too late.
I have also seen this more herein the Canary Islands with people from
Mauritania, especially who have an hour. You see a lot of this in
Las Palmas, like the night theygo out, they all go out,

(47:30):
that is you say where they werethe rest of the day and from an
hour on they start to go outyou see them with the children, even
if it' s too late.Eleven o' clock at night, twelve
o' clock and they' reon the street. That' s what
they usually do in their country.They do not have the time ordered,
so that we avoid the hours ofthe sun, as in Spain, because
in the south of Andalusia, becausepeople have to see they took a nap.

(47:52):
Well, if they have nostrils,you go three to five in the
afternoon to walk the great road ofGranada without sticking your slippers and melting the
floor of your shoes, then whatdo people do, because they get in
their house and then lie down later. This is also something that we are
often told, is that Spanish childrenlie down very late. Well, it

(48:14):
' s that, of course,we avoid the central hours of the sun
because the light is stronger and then, as we lay down later, then
they are modus or brandis, theyare different in each place and that sometimes,
when people come from outside and dothem in our own country, they
seem to us like aggressions, theyseem like they don' t adapt.

(48:36):
It' s just, of course, if you' ve come here,
because here things are done like this, then you' d have to adapt.
No. And well, in theend, obviously, when you'
re in one place, you're absorbing according to what things in that
place This is something that I reallylike to talk to people who have fluid
cultural identity, who are families,who the mother is from one country and

(48:58):
comes from one culture and the fatherof another, and in the end,
the children are an amalgam are likea lot of bits of a culture that
isn' t 100% of oneculture or another, because sometimes they'
ve raised in a third country.And how all this fits not like that
generation, which are the children,first generation that is born in another country

(49:19):
and that and that their parents havebeen migrants and have dragged things from their
own culture, but have absorbed manyof the new. Not then, all
this seems to me to be wealthand I think it' s wonderful.
I don' t mean that,I think it' s the purest gold
human beings have, not those littleways of working that are different. And

(49:43):
perhaps at that time when the immigrantwas me, at that time when the
one who clashed and didn' tfit into culture was me, without any
bad intention, I understood many ofthose activities and many, from that,
behaviors that sometimes criticize those who comefrom outside and have no purpose or objective

(50:04):
to annoy, but are simply behavingas they have always behaved to vote.
Soon I' ll talk about organizedtrips, careful, which is a topic

(50:40):
we' ll see. We've always been a little bit of having
the mozcla of the ear with theorganized obejas. At the beginning of the
journeys all light and had a badexperience on a trip to Morocco. He
didn' t like it very much. Sixteen years ago. I think it
was me. I' ve hadfew. The truth of this, you

(51:02):
get to chase umbrellas, because it' s one thing I don' t
like very much. So, thenI' ve always been very reluctant,
very reluctant to all organized trips.What happens that time ago for a company,
big company, big travel, wemade one, we went in one,
rather, to make pictures videos suchand the truth is that I changed

(51:23):
a little bit in this perception,because more than for the organization And all
that well, it is very comfortableabout working in children, very how I
let you think that eye careful whenyou are working a lot of time and
your vacation is a week of tendays, eleven, fourteen, whatever,
but not much more go. Youwant everything to be okay. You don
' t want to think there's a mistake in failures. You can

(51:45):
' t miss, I mean,you can' t miss a plane,
you can' t lose, Imean, you can' t be late
for a place you missed your ticket, then for the hotel. You'
re moving your car. I don' t know what. You can'
t, you can' t.I understand that. When you leave long,
you can allow yourself those things andothers, but when you leave like
that not, then let it beorganized. That' s very good.
Not to think, it' sfine. The problem, especially with the

(52:07):
kind of people, the kind ofpeople that can touch you. Of course,
you don' t control it.So that trip was just a little
one. The experience was very good, because the group was small, but
the people were very cool you knowthere was very good vibe. There were
other children than John with coke olderthan him, because he was two and
a half years old, you know, but they were eight, eleven and

(52:27):
fourteen. I think so, andthey did very well with Co that he
loved Egypt, did not make itvery easy that way of traveling that,
although it is not our favorite,well, we thought he says hey we
will give here a chance to this. We had already made ourselves as guides
before making coke, but they wereadventure trips, that is, a very
small group of seven eight people atmost and nothing organized. Okay and we

(52:52):
were looking on the go and there, well, we taught a little bit
more about how to travel, thatis not to be afraid of the no
or reserve. It wasn' ta bit of an affair. Well,
this time for Rilanka, for Maldives. Such and well, as we were
part, because you just said no, and now we are giving on organized
family trips. We have made twotrips to Morocco this past year and now

(53:17):
Rilanka shortly and then Nepal and thenrule Morocco. And we' re good
at boosting this, because we reallylike it a lot. It' s
people, usually families that follow usand it' s with tonces kids of
course, they' re playing parentsall the time. Evil forgets that there
are children. The trip is quiteorganized, but there is also in a

(53:38):
good part to improvisation and the rollthat is generated. That' s very
good. It can also be eye, because the good majority, ninety percent
of the next family. No morepeople who know us In fact, the
trip. We count it in ournetworks. There' s no other place
to tell. Now it can reachother people who know us from nothing.

(53:58):
It' s usually a very highpercentage. She' s the one who
knows us and he' s theone who gets dragged. I' m
not gonna say no, but they' ll be in the mood right away
and that' s good. Itcan be seen that in fact, in
Marcos a couple of families that theycame a little bit like this, the
first ones to say hear you stillunderstand and are pointing wonderful white. They
saw that they didn' t knowwhere and we love that they loved each

(54:20):
other. Good to bring the tribetogether that way. You know that'
s like I' m afraid hedid. Four families who went to Marcos
now repeat in Irilango, and that' s fantastic. The fact is that
of course it is at least somepeople who know us, who follow us,
who know how we travel our values, who for some will be a

(54:43):
piece of shit, for others theopposite, because already come people who are
a little bit of it. Paroalso reminds me that we have something in
common. We have something in common, so clear the fantastic group, the
fantastic hollow, because we all breathethe same way. You know how you
know well, since we don't understand the same. There are no

(55:05):
complaints about little things of the kindmore than in Spain it is eaten like
no place of claa. I don' t know what it means to have
that point of adventure. They wantto share. They know the first thing
is that the kids are okay.They also have to enjoy. They ask
us a lot of times about howif this travels with children about parenting.
They are a lot of things andthen, of course, that makes organized
travel not the typical organized trip thatI had in my head and that I

(55:30):
can get to have if I signup, in any macro agency, with
any receptive, whatever and anyone comesfrom here from beyond the other. There
a group is generated perhaps too varied, that is, too heterogeneous. And
now, of course, you canfind that with whom you sympathize, but
then there are probably people with whomyou have not and I have heard this,

(55:53):
there are quite a few stories,so, of people who have come
to them from other guides who havecome to them people like this the other
and troubles and style another has stillhappened to us. I expect the fingers
that don' t pass us,I don' t think, and well,
they' re organized. Yeah,look, it' s not advertising.
It' s just that, asI see it, they' re

(56:15):
organized trips. These kind of onesI like, and it' s not
because we organize it, but Ireally like it I see it is very
well. I enjoy it too youknow then well. That' s what
I wanted to tell you about organizedoverflows. The others are a little bit
of a lottery. M no andgood. This complements very well what we
do with our way of traveling asa family only in the four, which

(56:37):
is the rest of the time.Okay, that' s great too,
that we love it, but wefound this other way that we' re
going to continue to enhance, thatis, that we like it for that,
because if we wouldn' t giveit you know so and so far

(57:04):
I can read this show today Threeseason and so far today' s show
I think we' re going tosee each other on or hear better said
on the next. You know thatwe have a lot of seasons that you
can throw back that in each ofthe seasons gives us to change the escalette
and do new things and suddenly,try a sound diary and put it together

(57:25):
with sound maps and make it morereflective, to make it more debate or
to make it more read that wehave also had moments as well as more
poetic. And well, the thingis, don' t get bored and
don' t get bored until thenext Chao show. If you like our

(57:49):
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