Dr. Keith Scott-Mumby – New God New World - Inspired Living

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mind and spirit and we hope you enjoy today's show.
I want to start off with a quote because I
think it's very relevant for today's topic. We're going to
be bringing in doctor Keith Scott Mumby with his new

(03:58):
book that we're going to get more details a new God,
New World. But before we do that, I want to
read a little bit about him, and I also want
to open up with a quote from Albert Einstein, somebody
that I have followed and admired and read and done
a lot of research on, and Albert Einstein says this,
and I think it's very important when when it comes
to topics like today's show. Quote, science without religion is lame,

(04:20):
and religion without science is blind end quote. And I
think that's very very important for the conversation that we're
going to be having with doctor Key Scott Mumbay, who
is a British trained holistic physician. He's also a ordained minister,
and he's also a best selling author with over fifty
years of clinical experience, so he's been doing this for
some time. He's internationally recognized as a medical pioneer, and

(04:45):
he was one of the founders of the modern food
allergy movement and was dubbed the world's quote number one
allergy detective end quote by the Sunday Mail. He's now
based in the United States and doctor Scott Mumby has
authored numerous books on health, self care, and spiritual growth,
combining science, psychology and consciousness research, which I think is very,

(05:07):
very important. That's why I open up the show with
that quote form Einstein, because you've got to have even
Carl Sagan talked about, you've got to have spirituality and
science that work together, not oppose one another. His work
challenges outdated belief systems and invites more intelligent, compassionate, and
life affirming understanding of both health and the divine. And

(05:28):
Scott says this quote changing the conversation around God. Time
for a new look divinity without fear, judgment or control,
for a world ready to evolve.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
End quote.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
If you want to learn more about today's special guest
who's joining us for the very first time, you can
go to New Godnew World dot com. And with that,
let's bring our special guest in, doctor Keith Scott Mumby
with his new book, New God, New World, which is
an exploration. Yeah, plugged that on the video. You know

(06:01):
now it's through Home Times Television and you know, just
reimagining the divine for people who think deeply like myself.
You know, I feel honestly and live in the real world.
Welcome to the show, and tell us a little bit
about how this book came to be and what you're
all about with your fifty years of experience.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Right. Thank you, Mark, wonderful to talk with you. You're
a great guy. This got started. I mean, I know
you've heard of channeling, and I'm not sure I believe
in channeling, but it is true that one day I
just got the impassioned desire to write this book. And
my excuse as an MD is not an excuse is
the wrong word. But I thought, as an MD, you know,

(06:37):
you're supposed to heal things and fix things if there's
something that needs fixing right now, on anything else in
the world, it's the current religious view of God. It's
more divisive and troublesome than in ever it's supposed to help.
So I thought, well, I think I'm justified in tackling.
It is a healing so this is meant to be
a healing book. It's not a religious books. It's not denominational.

(07:01):
You know, it isn't Christian, it isn't anti Christian. It's
just starting from a different place and seeing where we
end up with a different kind of God. And what
would that mean? You know that we're all I said,
it's time for an update. The God that we've been
living with is like to over two thousand years out
of date and nobody's updated it. This figure was put

(07:22):
together by men living in a desert warrior types. But
I mean, what did they know. They didn't have cell phones, computers, cars,
rocket ships. They knew nothing of our world, and yet
their view is imposed on us and it's stock. So
don't you think it's time we had a change. Let's
take a different look at what God might be. If

(07:43):
he's not some towering, old, busybody in the sky that
clearly suffers with issues like anger management. He's a misogynist,
that's for sure, and it seems to be more stuck
on punishment and revenge and those kind of things than
loving kindness. To be honest, I mean, I'm going to
say some things that will hit a bit below the

(08:05):
belt to some people. But those that kind of asked
the question are not going to enjoy the book and
they're not going to be interested in what I have
to say. So who cays that's right.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
That's why we have you on the show because it's
all about perspectives. I always say people are portals, and
we've covered many topics over the many seasons of Inspired Living,
and so you know's let's hit below the belt. That's
okay because I've learned in this world that you're gonna
you know, some people love it and other people will
hate it, and that's just the world that we live in.
But you know, as we start off the show, one
of the things with my own personal experiences with what

(08:38):
we try to define as God or what God is,
it's always sat kind of awkwardly with me that you know,
especially with the teachings one we don't we can't even
get our history right from let let alone two thousand
years ago, let alone fifty years ago. So I'm always
kind of a student of history and I'm like, well,
our history isn't really accurate. But you know, it's always
kind of stuck with me, Keith, that you know we

(09:00):
have in the in the in the writings, we have
a perfect God that created us in his image, But
then yet would you know judge us for being imperfect beings?
It's it. So that's from a you know from.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Ain said that, you know, he said, God that makes
people imperfect, that knows they're going to fail, and then
punishes them for failing. I mean, what kind of God
is that?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Right? And logically it's never right, it's never squared, you know,
you know, and that's that's a you know, it's always
sat with me about you know, why be created in
this perfect image and then be judged for not being
perfect because nobody's perfect. We all are here to learn, right,
and that's you know, that's the rule of life. But
tell us about you know, the book has this relevant
tone without being religious, and there is a there is

(09:43):
a difference between religion. People listening to the show may
have no idea that there's a big difference between a
religious and spiritual concept and you know, tell us about
you know what was a deliberate balance within the book.
If you want to plug the book again so people
can see it and you know, the type of in
your new God, new world, but also.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
That you can take it as a given cant with
if we change the God, we're going to change the world.
I think that's a given. Yeah, Well, the problem is
how do you define religion? How do you define spirituality.
What's the difference? But in a nutshell, the way I'd
sum it up, Mark is that religion is something you know,
it's a vertical God said this, and the pope and

(10:26):
the priest Aul said this, and we're told what to
think and we're told what to do. Spirituality is a
discovery from within, as you know, and nobody can tell
you what to think or what your experience is going
to be. And I don't think anyone has the right
to interpret it for you. You know, you have your
experience and make the best of it you can, and
if you're smart, you make wonderful things of it. If

(10:47):
you want to be dogmatic and troubled with guilt and
other issues, then you can go that route as well
if you want. But I think there's a clear cleavage
between what religion has been doing to us and what
I think is healthier, you know, a better way of
thinking and living.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
And in the book you talk about new God. And
some may be seeing this or hearing this and be like,
what do you mean by.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
What do you mean by that? Yeah, no, that's a good.
Why don't we clear that up to start with? What
do I mean by a new God? Well, it's starting
out from a different place. You see, the existing God
is kind of an out there and came around and
put us down here. Now I start from a different place,
and I call it primal consciousness. This is my question,

(11:33):
what if consciousness came first? Now, scientists of course say,
well that's impossible. You have to have a brain to
be conscious, which is absolutely not true. Or maybe a
computer or maybe a robot, but you really need a
brain to be conscious. It's psychopathological science. Mark. There's no
evidence of any kind to support this. It is just

(11:56):
an opinion that you have to have a brain to
be conscious. Well, if consciousness came first, that wouldn't be
would it. And think what follows is this is before matter, energy, space,
and time. So consciousness has no time, for example, so
no beginning, no end. That means it's not going to

(12:16):
go away anytime soon. It's there forever. And one of
the jokey questions when I'm doing a talk on this
is where have you been for the last few billion years?
What you've been doing? Because you can't vanish, you know
you're here, you're signed on. But anyway, so that that
gives us a different model. It means that we all
started out from this place I call primal consciousness. Clearly,

(12:40):
and I've got no scientific proofs or work on this,
but clearly you can deduce that consciousness is capable of
splitting because we are still all one, we are still connected.
I believe in that model. But somehow we've managed to
individuate and separate, separate off. So there's now billions of
us probably quad really millions of us throughout the universe.

(13:02):
And the source was this primal consciousness. Whether you want
to call it God or something else. I don't think
it's important what we call it, but it's there above
and behind us all and it's infinitely wise. If it
did come first, then it's going to this primal consciousness
would know everything. And it's been one of my precepts

(13:23):
all through my teaching life that I believe we know
everything absolutely at source. We know everything, but we have
to selectively unknow things in order to function. If we
knew absolutely everything, we'd be bored to death in ten minutes.
Think well, I've done everything, I know everything, I know
what's going to happen for everything that I do. So

(13:45):
I'm kind of bored.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
How long is it.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
I've got another five hundred billion years to go, but
I'm already bored after ten, so that wouldn't function. So
I think we selectively unknow things. But it is out there,
you know, things like the Akashic records and things like that.
It's all out there and we can access it. But
it's disappointing and that we can't all access it really easy.

(14:12):
That's that's my starting model. So that's what I mean
by the new God. And we're all part of it.
We're all it, never mind you know, part of it
or sharing it. We're it. Our collective consciousness goes to
make up that phenomenon that I'm calling God. And of
course it must be genderless. You'll follow from what I said.
There's no matter of energy, space and time. No matter

(14:34):
means there's no gender. You can't have gender without organs
and things, and you know, different different parts of the humans,
so it's genderless. So so I you know, I even
resist the female god idea. I mean, it was an
interesting move to try and get away from this left
brain masculine dude that's trying to control everly. But it's

(14:55):
just as bad to go for women gender too. A
god that doesn't have both sides. Mark, It's like a
coin with only one side. It's not possible. It has
to have two sides. And across the Chinese and you
know that all alone, that's Yin and Yang. I'm sorry,
I'm I'll give you a turn. Come on.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Now, you know, because you know, somebody with your background,
you know, you spent you know, first half of your life.
I'm sure you know if you're you know, an m
d doctor, that's at least seven to nine years in education, right,
you know, learning, and you know, so you have and
I'm sure I'm not sure what kind of metal medical
doctor you were, but I'm sure that you had been
seeing birth, life, death, everything in between, you know, especially

(15:39):
being a medical doctor. So that really kind of just
challenges the mind, you know. And I come back to,
you know, the mind itself because Einstein and I'm paraphrasing here,
but he always equated the brain, which on average is
about three and a half pounds, right, based on you know, research,
but he always said it was one of the most
complex organisms within our state of universe. And that's always

(16:03):
kind of sat with me too. I Mean, Einstein is
fascinating one of the many gurus that I've read about
and followed in history. But you know, when you start
thinking about the brain, and we've done past episodes from
brain injury, neuroplasticity, working with psychedelics, expansion of consciousness, meditation,
and so for you, was that an easy switch to
really move from a medical background into what you do today,

(16:27):
because I'm sure with what you do there also comes
a lot of you know, pundits and critics and skeptics
and naysayers and atheists that really kind of challenge that
status quo, you know, defining that like you just said
that new God, but it's the new god of you know,
I'm not sure how many different religions are all around
the world, about five thousand different religions around the world.
I'll have a different god, but you know, just tell

(16:51):
the listeners a little bit about that, because I think
it's fascinating that you're a doctor and then you have
this perspective and wrote this book as well.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
May I say something absolutely totally dunningly shocking before I
go on to answer a question. You don't need a brain.
We are not a brain. That there are hundreds of people,
if not thousands or tens of thousands walking around without
a brain. Now you think, what, that's not possible as
your instinctive reaction. But a colleague of man adopted John

(17:21):
Lawber professor over as he was in Sheffield in England's
past now. But he had a collection of hundreds of patients.
He was a pediatrician and was sent lots of patients
who had a condition called hydro caphulus. Now that means
water on the brain and the pressure builds up and
it crushes the brain against the inside of the skull.

(17:41):
And he had hundreds of patients that had this phenomenon.
They were perfectly normal, their memories were normal, their emotions
were normal, but they had less than one percent of
the brain. It was just kind of a smear on
the inside of the skull. List one of these cases
actually got a degree in a can and see you
know he was and had quite a high IQ. So

(18:05):
it you know, we need to get rid of this
idea that we are a brain. The brain is a
kind of transducer mechanism. You know, it tunes in out
there so that we know what's going on and if
we want to touch something, our brain will take care
of that. So we can reach over and touch an
object we learn about the universe that way, But you

(18:26):
don't need a brain to think. Now, if you think
I'm going too far, just one step further with me mark,
which is out of bodies. You know those experiences. I've
had lots of them, and lots of people have had
that where they've been outside their body. You can see,
you can hear everything. You don't need your eyes, you
don't need your ears. You can be the other side
of the building, down the corridor, and yet you still

(18:48):
know what's going on because you are directly sensing things
directly without your sense organs. So I'm sorry, that's horribly
shocking and everything what doesn't reckon You're aplasticity in these things,
But it's not nearly as important as getting a grasp
on the fact we're not a brain anyway in the
first place. Now, having said that, I forgot what you

(19:11):
asked me. Can you remind me, Oh, yes, my experience
is growing as a doctor. Yeah, yeah, well of course,
I mean, you see death, you can be insensitive to it.
I didn't find out was you know. I got very
moved and I got very involved with the people I
was seeing, and so I saw phenomenal that I think
other doctors didn't mostly see. I'm not saying they're useless,

(19:34):
but I'm just saying I was especially tuned in, so
when somebody passed, I could often see a sort of
mist coming up out of the body and going up,
you know, going up on high out of the building.
Doctors wouldn't talk about this, but nurses did, you know,
you know, you know this mark. Women are good at this, right,
They're highly intuitive. In fact, I was called an honorary

(19:56):
woman about fifty years ago because I'd be in the
kitchen with a galast talking about pastalized telepathy reincarnation and
the guys who are in the other room talking about
beer and cars and football. So I was more on
the sort of feminine intuition side with that, and I've
always loved that aspect of things. But for a doctor

(20:18):
to not be sensitive and aware to the greater meaning
of life, I think it's a disservice. You know, there
is this pastoral role, as it's called, and often the
church isn't playing that part. Where it is. It's just
sort of dogma, you know, it's just grinding out the
cliches and the memes and the tropes and things. It
doesn't really help much, but a doctor holding your hand

(20:40):
and sort of final start, or a nurse listen to.
Nurses were very good in the old days there were nurses.
Now they're sort of, you know, exemplary doctors. Really they
trained how to do drapes and kidneyed this and that,
and they've forgotten their basic craft, which was comfort. And
a nurse was a nursing or comforting person. And to

(21:00):
die on your own, in the words, without somebody like that,
I think must be pretty horrific. It's better at home.
But you know, I was aware of that, and I
actually went much further. Sometimes you might not approve Mark.
Many of the listeners might not, but sometimes when a
person is ready to pass over, I'd hold a hand
and instead of fighting it, I would say, well there.

(21:25):
I had two questions. If I thought the person believed
in reincarnation, I would say, what are you going to
do in your next life? And the person would smile
and start talking, even though they were completely zonked on
Brompton's mix or something. If they were sort of very
orthodox and formal, I would say, if you could live
your life again, what would you do? And you can

(21:45):
just see the person burst into smile, and so often
mark they passed that day or that night. You know,
they were just happy to move on. Then I understand
this and I believe in it, and I'm sad that
so many doctors don't. I think you're just a piece
of meat. And when you're done, you know, you're gone.
It's all over. Everything rots and you're gone. But you know,

(22:08):
even advanced physics contradicts that. Now you leave something we
know that now advance. You know that's some kind of
information or energy field message. That's I mean, that's probably
what goes are all about. Really you must. And I
used to have a great colleague at Salford University that's
Manchester in north I mean, who used to say, advanced

(22:29):
physics doesn't just say all this woo woo stuff could happen.
It said it must happen by the law of the physics.
You must leave a presence behind when you're gone. And
he had wonderful pearls like that. He's gone. But I
can pass these on there and I'm the dayan or
the older person. These are my sayings.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Now, I love it, and thank you for sharing that
wisdom with us. And I always, you know, I always
say that physics always leaves leaves the door cracked open, right,
because it's what we understand. The physics today could be
completely different fifty years from now, right in our lifespan,
you know, in physics, you know, I've always been fascinating,
you know, if I have. My background is also in medicine,

(23:10):
you know, emergency medicine, first responder, working with people pre hospital,
you know, care and seeing kind of the same things
that you describe seeing when somebody you know, we're working
on them, and see the soul leave the body, see
the energy or the ethericy if you want to call
it that. Many different definitions, but it's always you know,
I've always asked my instructors over the course of the year,
when we learn about the heart, how the heart, the chambers,

(23:32):
you know, the a ord to how it you know, profuses,
But no one could ever explain where the energy comes from,
that energy that creates the God's spark within that makes
that heart go. No teacher could ever say, well, we're
not really sure. We just know that the spark is
a source of energy that makes the heart go, that
gives us our physical experience, and we know by the
sources of physics today, that energy always has to return

(23:54):
to its source, or a part of it stays with
its source before it returns. And so I've always found
that very fascinating from a medical you know, from an
anatomy and physiology standpoint, and you know, just with my
own background before before this, in a previous life, before
I did all this and the spiritual context, you know,
and even work work with the brain because my brother
had passed. Before his passing, he had glioblastiotoma, and so

(24:16):
he did a lot of brain research for a few
years before his passing, and they actually did brain mapping
and it was quite a fascinating journey of how the
brain operates and doesn't operate. You know, when we're asleep,
it's very active. When we're awake right now, it's very dormant.
And they would talk about his memory and speech being
right here just on the left temporal of the brain,

(24:37):
and I'd be like, well, how do you store that
many memories a lifetime? And they're not sure that you
actually store like kind of what you're saying that the
brain isn't that that that the whole to everything. It
might be more of just a conduit for consciousness kind
of like an uploading and downloading to a cloud source information.
But I remember with his surgery, the surgeon who was
a surgeon from Duke, that he would be awake for

(24:58):
a surgery and they put a ballpoint pin really just
a ballpoint pin right on his temple where the cancer was,
and he'd be reading Q cards, you know, Monkey, Giraft, Horse, Zebra,
and as soon as they pressed down on this part
of the brain, nothing just went completely, no speech, no
cognitive response. And you know, so that the surgeon would

(25:19):
share that with me, and that's really kind of where
I started getting interested about the brain and your concepts too,
is like, we're not of the brain, but what would
you define before we go to our first commercial break?
What would you say the brain is? Is it more
of just a conduit for connection or is it it's
something but we're not sure exactly.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
What it's in a connector to connect us the non
material spiritual being non material, so no matter andy space
or time with the physical. You know, you can't we're
not that good yet. We can think. I thought, you know,
I will move the television under the move cup on
my desk. I'm working on it, but none of us
are that good at it yet, So we have to

(25:59):
just think, think the thought, and the brain will take
your hand and push the coffee cup or the mo'g
over there. That's what it's for. In fact, you know,
in this day and age, your cell phones off and
a wave of cell phone. You can talk to anywhere
on planet Earth using a cell phone. You can speak
to somebody in Brazil as we're talking about Sydney, Australia, Tokyo, Japan.

(26:21):
That doesn't mean the person's in the phone. You know
the person's over there. There are signals coming that your
phone can pick up and interpret and so that you
can learn what's going on. You can have a conversation,
but not by the person stepping into your phone and
saying hell, okay. It's kind of a look of model,

(26:41):
isn't it when you think what they really suppose is happening.
But the truth is, you know, is much simpler. And
I don't know how much time we got just for
the break. But you mentioned memory. It's interesting. You know
that heart transplants and son carries some memory. So an
organ that's not a brain can carry a memory, and

(27:02):
these are very exact memories. You must remember that one
case where somebody was murdered and the donor gotten in
the heart, and then they started remembering the murder with
enough detail that the police were able to get the
guy and he got jailed because the memories were accurate.
You know, they didn't transplant the brain they transplanted. So

(27:24):
I think everything's up for grabs, don't you.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
I love it, Yeah, and I love I love having
these conversations, and you know, people like yourself being on
the show. So we're gonna We're gonna cut to our
first break. We're gonna be back here in just a
few minutes where we have our special guest today, doctor
Keith Scott Mumby with his new book, New World, Our
New God, New World. Stick around for the conversation. We
got another half of the show to go. You are
listening to Inspired Living. Will be right back in just

(27:49):
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And shoes all right. Welcome back to Inspired Living, Inspired listeners.
We have our special guest today joining us for the
first time, doctor Keith Scott Mumby with his new book,
New God, New World, Visions of the Divine that will

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reshape our world. Keith, welcome back.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Thank you enjoying this mark, I really am good.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
That's what we're all about. We want enjoyment, we want inspiration, motivation.
So while you're holding up the book, tell us about
why you chose the eye? Is that the Aussian eyes
at the third eyes the human eye? Tell me about
why you chose that for your cover.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
I think it was more a deficit of other ideas
than a brilliance. You know what on earth could symbolize
God of any sort of mind, a new God. And
my designer, blessing him, came up with this is the
Young Wine roommate, a young man now he's been with
me for fifteen years, but he came up with this
beautiful and I believe he used AI to generate it.

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But doesn't it make an arresting cover? And I just
love it? So there wasn't a kind of deep philosophical
thinking symbolism behind it that you're thinking, But it's gordeous anyway.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, it's it's like a It's like a wine label. Right.
I always ask my guests why the cover, why the
story behind? You know, because the cover is not the book, right,
there's a lot of information within this book. And it's
like a wine label. I always asked winemakers like why
did you choose this label for your wine? Is because
there's usually a story or some sort of connection, and
you know the power of the eye to see another

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soul through the the the soul connection usually comes through
the eyes. I just found it to be, you know,
very cool, So I.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Think you've got it better than me. Then that said
it really nicely.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Well before the break we were talking about moving things
with our mind. And I, as you can see in
the studio, I'm a big fan. I'm a child of
Star Wars, Star Trek and you know, for your listeners
out there, I guarantee at one point in your life
you tried to use the force. You tried to move
something with your mind at some point in your lives.
Everybody has tried to do this. But I do believe
that there is a force that connects us all you

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know together in different ways and the human you know capacity.
But one of the things I wanted to get to
because this this next half hour is going to go
so quick for us. But you talked about in your openings,
you know, you know one why you wrote the book,
but what would God be if humans had never invented religion?
Is the opening chapter, you know, various concerns address and

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how can our experience of God be improved? Let's start
out there because I think the listeners would really enjoy
to hear that perspective.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Right, and it's crucial. Really we are saddled with this
model of you know, somebody up there, typically a male
person that's doing dumping on us down here. These are
the rules you've got to do this. This is the
punishment if you don't tell the line. That's what's been
laid on us. Now, I said I'd started from a
different place, and you end up in a different, whole,

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different universe where it's all about joy and love and connection. Really,
I mean, people, religious people talk an awful lot about
God and love. But you look around and I'm sorry,
I'm not seeing that. One of the problems, mark is
what we call agency. You know, are you causing things

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that are you not? And you get people who are
you know, they survived the flood and they say, oh,
God was with me, God helped me that day, and
you know, thank God, But what about the other five
hundred people that got drowned? Did God have it in
for them? You know, that sort of agency model doesn't work,
and I think we've got to let go of it
because it's difficult. You know, if God is the creator,

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God makes everything, bad stuff happens, therefore God does bad stuff.
You end up around in a logical loop that just
doesn't work for me. So I think the importance of
drawing a line between the two phenomena is really quite crucial.
Otherwise it leads people to believe they're beholden to this
something outside of self. And let's face it, it's portrayed

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as a not really that friendly a presence, you know,
looking for trouble and you know, eavesdropping. I heard you
say a bad word. You're going to hell if you're
not careful. It's all tripe to me. I want joy.
I want to see love, and I want to see excitement,
and I want to see curiosity and adventure and religion.

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The way they put God for it is absolutely stifles curiosity,
doesn't it. You're not allowed to ask a questions. That's blasphemy.
It's heresy. If you dare to answer the question and wrongly,
that's heresy. And the number of people have been put
to death over the years because they said things that
weren't approved, and not just in Christianity, you know, there's

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happened with Muslim Sufi's as well. Some of them got
very badly treated and like disemboweled and skinned alive and
things for saying things that were not approved of. What
that earth kind of deity would put up with that
behavior even from its you know, it's representatives and the
priest classes. If God wanted to strike people. I think

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you should strike the priests and say you lot op it,
you're not doing any good, get out of it. I'll
take over. But that's not going to happen anytime soon.
But the thing is, the new God comes from a
different direction. But here's the little logical side of this mark,
which nobody actually spots unless I pointed out. If I'm

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correct or anywhere near correct. With the new God, what
I'm calling the new God, it's not a new God.
It's always been there from the beginning of time. It's
the old God. That's the illusion. Just do you agree
when I'm saying that. You know, it's the characteristics of
the God I like to describe, but always been there
and I believe in them. And that God is you know, compassionate,

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caring and loving and wise, but doesn't come and meddle
in our affairs. You know, if we choose a life
on earth, you've got to take the rough and the smooth.
You can't just say, well, you know, the bad stuff.
I just want to dump that. There is value even
in the bad stuff if you're capable of learning and growing.
You know, you know the I'm sure you know the
metaphora was it Sir John of the Cross, wasn't it

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the dark Knight of the soul? If you have one
of those, you'll be totally transformed spiritually into something bigger,
more wonderful, beautiful. But it was hell getting there. I
hadn't go night. The soul of my first wife left.
Bless her. We're back friends again there. But it was

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heavy going. But you know, it made me a better doctor,
a better human being. I wouldn't have missed those dark
years for anything. So you've got to take the good
and the bad. And it's not saying, oh, thank you God,
thank you God for the good stuff. What do you
say when he does bad stuff? Yeah, so that you're

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right to point that question out. It's an important distinction
in fact.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, yeah, thank you for sharing that, because you know,
I've always I always like to use the analogy of
just exactly what you're saying, that the caterpillar doesn't become
the butterfly without the cocoon, which is usually a de
liquefying into a protein sack of goose, or what the
caterpillar calls the end of the world. The butterfly, through
the transformations calls it a whole new perspective or the butterfly.
Thanks the caterpillar for the courage to go through because

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it is that dark night of the soul. It is
the transformation. And you know, and I go back to
even when I really started questioning, you know, as the
once religious person who is now a spiritual person. You know,
we had in our family as series events. Big part
of the work I do today is because of what
happened in my in my former life with the loss
of my brothers and my father in law and at

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that point, all happening in a very short period of time.
There was that well, why do bad things happen to
good people? God? Why have you you know, cursed or
forsaken my family with murder and brain cancer and multiple
scrossis all the same time. And we even saw it
where people thought we were cursed, you know that, you know,
people that were supposed to be there for you in
your time and need would be like, WHOA, we don't
want really anything to do with what's going on with

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the Lainhart household because they're losing people left and right.
We don't want any part of that. And it really
just really I really started to question my religious upbringing
and the religious dogmas and indoctrination and education that I had,
and it really you know, kind of branched out to
explore not just different religions, but look at Jesus from

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not a religious standpoint, but like a Christ's consciousness, you know,
when he went into the temples and turned over the
tables because of what they were doing back the right,
you know, learning about different different scriptures, whether it's the
Ethiopian Scripture that has twenty more books than the current
Christian Bible, which are edited books, by the way, so
you know, really kind of suspect of you know, anything

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that's edited. Why is something edited and it's not authentic,
it's not unique, and it's because it gives sometimes too
much power or the divinity within that we all possess.
And like you said, if I say that some religion
will be like, that's blaspheming. You're going straight to hell
for saying that you have the God within. But even
Jesus taught you know, he taught that and was misrepresented
and misinterpreted. But you know, how can God exist with

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the dogma and the sacred texts and the priestly gatekeepers
that we're talking about, Because this has been going on
for thousands of years, and we're not going to change
this paradigm overnight, but there is more discussions as the
younger generations are very much awakened and not really kind
of going down that same path. Religion has really dropped
statistically worldwide, and I find that interesting as well.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Right, that's interesting me. I find it obvious, meaning, you know,
if you're a thinking person, how can you carry on
with these old dogmas and paradigms that, hey, you're manifestly
not working, but b don't make any logical sense.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
You know.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
One of my chapters, as you know, is sort of
unifying science and the divinity. If you can't unite the two,
then don't. I don't think you've got much to work with.
I really hate it with these so called new new atheists.
You know, they're going around trumpeting that we prove that
God doesn't exist. You know, science has got no place

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for God, and this is logical clap trap. You can't
prove something doesn't exist, It can only fail to prove
it does exist. But they haven't got any nonsensory God
detectors or anything like that, so how would they know.
You know, It's it's farcical to say that we have
proof that, you know, God isn't needed, and they view

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the universe as some big clanking machine where the only
cause of anything is random chance. You know, that's Darwinism,
isn't it. You know, random chance will throw things this
way and that, and therefore we get evil oush. I'm
not saying them against evolution, but you know, to put
everything down to just random chance in a machine or
like random number variables, and by the way, we can

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influence those. There's lots of good science from Dean Riding
at the Institute of Noetic Sciences. He reached five sigma
of proof that you can influence random number generators. But
to say our universe just runs on chance is absurd.
It's saying that there is no place for individuals and creativity,

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and you know it's all predetermined by genes.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
You know.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Dawkins, Richard Dawkins is one of the extremely loud mouthed
new atheists. He thinks he's got a handle on everything.
But you know, he wrote a book called The Selfish
Gene where it's supposed that we're not even people, we're
genes that create people, so we can reproduce ourselves as
some more genes further down the line, as if that

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were everything. Well, I mean, a whole shot came to
his theory about ten twelve years ago when they discovered
that animals, well it started with yeasts, but plants and
animals and fungi can actually create their own genes on
the job. You know, here's a new medium. I can't
feed on this. I'll need an x y z enzyme
to do that. So I know, I'll do a gene

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that creates this enzyme, and within a couple of hours
they've got the enzyme. They can now digest the food
they're in, and off they go happy. So the idea
that genes there are some immutable thing that's handed down
from on high is ridiculous. You make your own as
you go, and if you don't like the ones you've got,
fixed them, go for something else. So, you know, the

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predeterminism factor has got no place in my model of
the New God, and neither has the outside interference model.
We are part. We're driving a machine, I think, well,
not a vehicle. You know, we're driving a vehicle through
this wonderland forest. It's called the universe. Well, there's probably
lots of universes and there's probably lots of dimensions. Yeah,

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get dizzy.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
May lose some of our listeners in audience based if
we go into the three dimensionals of the fourth dimension,
the fifth dimensional, construct the multi dimension, you know. But
it goes back to you know, Hawkins always talked about
he was always curious about It's almost like our universe
has been set up specifically for us as humans, you know,
and even in this day and age with you know,
the latest Artemis project that just left the Earth, you know,

(43:41):
there's still people think the Earth is flat, right, There's
there's that concept that the Earth is flat, but you
look at the universe around you and everything is round.
It would be very awkward if here's just the third
planet from the Sun and it's very flat and everything
else is around and then you know, there's proof that
they're out there shooting back from the moon. You know,
just a great coming together moment for humanity. Uh. But
one of the things I want to ask you, you know,

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based on space expiration and kind of the current times
of where we at and kind of your thought because
one of the answers I heard from you know, the
the disclosure of you know, are we alone in the universe.
One of the biggest questions of mankind is are we alone?
Whether in the universe, the firming paradox, or you're on
the planet. And a lot of the feedback I get
is they don't want to answer it because of religion,
because it would upset the status quo of religions around

(44:26):
the world to say, way, well, humans aren't the alpha
that we once thought we were. But there's so much
information that's coming out publicly, and I've long said in
our roaring twenties of this decade that we would learn
that we're not alone, which is a is a for me.
It's an evolution point of consciousness to kind of look
at the bigger picture of the universe, like you're talking
about if we're just talking three dimensional construct but what's

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your thought on you know, because that information is coming
out the drip drip jip, but it's coming out very
very crowd source from multiple locations around the planet. And
it's one of the longest running questions conspirasy theories of mankind.
Are we alone in the universe? And how does God
equate into other beings that are not human?

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Right, Well, let me start with a well known joke
I hope you heard it. Which is the best proof
of intelligent life in the universe is that there stay
away from us. That is quite hilarious. That'll satisfy me
as a proof anyway. In my writings, not this particular book,

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but in my writings, I've featured consciousness appearing in machines
and things. But you know the movie Avatar, where the
idea was that the person's conscious awareness would pass over
into the avatar. It's been done. It's actually not a movie.
Market's arrived and it started with a very simple experiment
that was done in Israel, sending data to a university

(45:51):
in Bezier in the south of France, and they had
a guy wide up so that they could interpret his thoughts.
You know, after enough practice, they realize, right, that array
of new ons firing means he wants to lift his
right arm, and that array of neurons firing means lift
his left arm. And this kid, I forgot his name,
but you know his young man. He got very good anyway,
and so they hitched him up to this robot in

(46:13):
the south of France. He could see what the robot
was seeing. It was only a little thing, you know,
like yeah, big and clanking about, almost like a toy.
But he could do movements. He could go and find
things in the room. You know. They would say things
like that, there's a red ball in this room somewhere,
go and see if you can find it, and he'd
wander around till he found it. But the most amazing

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thing in the report was that he fell over and
somebody went to pick him up and he shouted he
was in Israel. Remember the robot was in France. When
they picked him up, he showed, let me allowed, get
your hands off me. Just in that short space of
the experiment, he'd become virtually embodied in this robot figure.

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He felt it was him and it was like somebody
grabbing him. You know, that was one of the most
profound spiritual moments in the last twenty years for me,
when you think what the implications are, because you know,
we worry about you know, water based life, and you
know where a planet's suitable. But if you can inhabit

(47:15):
a machine or a robot, you could go anywhere. Could
you could go into the heart of a star, You
could dive down a black hole. I don't know that
we'd ever come back, but you know, things where life
could not possibly exist, No, but maybe some mechanical structure
could and you can embody it. I just, you know,
I let myself go in the writings then and started imagining.

(47:37):
You know, we'd line up and buy some tickets down
here on Earth in the theater, and you'd how you
go for a walk on the moon. You know, that's
what That's what you did. You had all the sensory
perceptions of walking on the moon. I mean, it's just
got nearer and near, hasn't it. How virtual reality is
now it's upon us basically. But think what that means
for life and consciousness and the inspiration of that. Of course,

(48:02):
there's life in the universe. Let me well, come on,
you're a radical enough program. I know, you know the
kind of people that you share with. I can remember
thousands of past lives as clear as you know, breakfast
to day. I can't remember them all, and I can't
remember all of any of them, but I can remember
parts of thousands of them. But I'm among a group

(48:24):
of people that spent some time around our curious we Areturians.
There are plio deans. You probably heard these and think,
oh yeah, yeah, these people are a bit loopy. Now
they're not. They remember being there. I can quite distinctly remember.
I can remember the name of the spaceship that I
had around our turists. And if you think, all right,
the doctor's lost it, let's close him down early. Let

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me point out the Dogons, which you may know of
if you know the Sirius mystery. The Dogons were an
African tribe living in Marley, and they lived in mud huts.
You know, they couldn't mean more. But they didn't know
what a phone or a computer, certainly not what a
telescope was. But they worshiped a small white dwarf that
was a companion to the star Sirius. Now Cyrus is

(49:08):
the fourth brightest object in our sky. You know, it's
this on the moon Venus and then Cyrus. It's very
intense and bright. They remember, they had a whole ritual
of worshiping this white dwarf companion to Cyrus. The only
trouble is there wasn't a white dwarf companion to Cyrus

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until the nineteen thirties when astronomers discovered it. And as
exactly as they said, it's going around Cyrus. This is
a little, tiny white dwarf star. How did people living
in mud huts know it was there? Easy peasy. They
remembered it from when they were out there. They're now

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down on Earth, but they worshiped Cyrus and this star,
the other star. I mean, there's shedloads of proof of
other incarnations life, other places, so we know, why not
other world's other dimensions? You know, I don't listen. I
don't know. If you you mentioned I think, well, you're

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hinted at string theory. You know, ten dimensional string theory,
and that predicts at the very least. Mathematically they worked
out it predicts at the very least ten to the
power five hundred universes. Right, that's ten followed by five
hundred zeros universes. And a guy called Alexander Villenkins that

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I think he was at Tufts speculated and said, I
think I really get scared of the idea. There might
well be another Alexander Villinkin out there right now writing
this piece exactly as I am. But unfortunately, I think
it's very likely to be true. So what do you
think of that? I mean, that puts a whole different

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perspective on creativity, doesn't it. I mean, every universe could
have another planet Earth all the other conditions anyway, so
that'd be not five hundred universes, it's one followed by
five hundred notes universes, which is billions, trillions, trillions of
kazillions of unbelievable numbers of universes out there somewhere, Mark,

(51:15):
there's got to be a doppel ganger for you and
one for me. It'd be nice to meet them one day,
I guess. But and you know, my part of my position, Mark,
is that we ought to be able to know this,
you know, like and go out there and get the information.
We can't. We've been so educated out of it that

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it's just beyond the ordinary person to do this. And
isn't it said, yes, there are individuals with outstanding abilities,
but you know what a psychle Edgar Casey, what he
can do I should be able to do. Why does
he get it and I didn't get it. I'm not
being mean or you know, jealous, but it's it troubles
me philosophically that we can't all seem to access these abilities.

(51:59):
And I don't know why, but I'm working on it.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Yeah, and that's the goal, working on it right. One day,
Really challenge yourself through body, mind, and spirit, right, all
three concepts of who we are and you know it.
So you know you talked about Avatar and it's long.
One of my questions of this reality is does does
art imitate life or does life imitate art? You know,
when something is you know, dream, Ronberry would write with

(52:22):
science fiction back in the sixties, is now science fact today?
And we don't look differently, you know. And that's why
I did the show, because it's really we could spend hours,
you know, Keith talking about this, you know, the concepts
of different states of consciousness and God and religion and spirituality,
and you know, I have an hour to do this.
But that's why I do the show, is to offer
this platform for perspective and get people to think outside

(52:45):
the box. And you know, for some people that's great.
For other people, it's very, very scary, and you know
that that that paradigm shift is not easy. But again,
like with the caterpillar calls the end of the world,
the butterfly calls a whole new beginning. So just with
the last few minutes we have here the show, what
would you like sure to the listeners about this book
and where folks can get the book and learn more
about you.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Oh, yes, of course I should say that. Yes, its
title is New God, New World. If you look into
my name there on the videographic Newgardennewworld dot com is
the website. You go there. You can find some audios
and videos. But there's a big right at the top
of the page, you know by it. So you go
and get yourself a copy that way. But I don't
mind if you go to Amazon. They don't pay me
as much money, but I don't care. We've got If

(53:28):
you go to Amazon, there's already half one hundred brilliant reviews,
five star reviews. If there's only one person say he
said this is a crazy book and gave me one star,
clearly some kind of religious phonetic that wanted to hurt me.
Everybody else gave me a full on f star. But
you can get it from them. There's the digital copy

(53:49):
that's ten bucks, paperback like this one which is twenty
bucks nineteen something, and you can actually get a hard back,
because I do think it's the kind of book that
people might want a treasure, you know, and have a
hardback that will last on your shelves for some time.
You can also if you go to a new God,
new world. Join in with us. You know, you can
sign up to I came up with this concept years ago.

(54:12):
You probably laugh, Mark, But I called it Scriptures in
the Making. I'm not being conceited. I mean I didn't
say why or anything, just scriptures and scripture. The word
just means writing, doesn't it, you know, like script or
manuscript and so on. It only means that. So scriptures
in the making. And I've now built several thousand people

(54:35):
now in my new Scriptures colony. So any of your
listeners want to go and join us. We do some
regular meetings and they can get a whole slew of
emails that have put all sorts of fascinating ideas in
front of them along the lines of what we've been talking.
So I want to start a movement. Actually, I think

(54:56):
I'm going to found a nonprofit foundation, you know, you go,
a New World foundation. When I do that, Mark, I
think it's probably time. It tent me a few centuries
to overtake the Catholic Church. They're pretty big, but they're
coming off the rails gradually. Their story is getting slimmer
and slimmer in the face of modern science. Whereas you know,

(55:17):
the new gold model. It's predicted almost by science. I mean,
like I said, the starting place is just logic. If that,
then that, then that, and you must end up with
what we've got, which is a wonderful, interconnected society of
people were all one. We don't all think alike, but
if we are, I mean the whollow messages love and compassion.

(55:38):
Really never mind being right and you know, behaving and
the rules and morals and all that stuff. Forget all
that crap, just about being decent human beings. And I
even dare to suggest what I thought a decent human
being might be in one of the final chapters. In
the old days, it was a big warrior with a
sword that could defend your tribe. And then in the

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Middle Ages it was a knight errant that was gallant
and would rescue their ladies and behave chival leslie. Probably
in the twentieth century it was some smarter and then
now lately we've got sort of geeks and nerdy people
who are the Probably they considered themselves the optimum human beings,
but you know, the religious optimum was always somebody was

(56:23):
self sacrificing to the point of virtual self destruction. We
don't want that, of course. Yeah, okay, I talk myself out. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Well, doctor Keith Scott Mumby New God New World dot Com,
thank you for being our guest today on Inspired Living.
Right another book? Come on, sure that you've got a
platform this year.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
I've got to say what the camera is. I'm putting
it the way I think is right to get it
in the middle, and it goes off the screen.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Yeah, I don't worry about that.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
There you go. You're trying to ride a bicycle where
you turn the handlebars one way and the wheel actually
goes the wrong way. You can't ride bicycles like that.
It was Yes, I've enjoyed it hugely. Mark, You've been
a wonderful interview. And once you wind me up and
get stumped me, I don't stop easy.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Yeah, all right, listeners until our next whole adventure together.
Be kind, be caring, be compassionate. Most importantly, wherever you'
out in this world, dare to dream, dare to explore,
dare to live. Discover the diamond within and the many
hidden gems all around. And we'll see you next time
here on Inspired Living. And thank you doctor Keyscott Mumbay
new Guy, New world dot com. Get the book, check
it out, and we'll see you next time. No mistake.

(57:32):
Now MNA go take careverybody.

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