Tiny Mustache Man, WW2 And The bank Of England w⧸ Jay Dyer

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Very excited to have our next guest on.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
He's starting to be I mean, I don't know how
many times he's been on the show, but every time
it's just pure fire.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Theno him is to love him.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
The hilarious, the intelligent, that got great great great, like
just facial features. I mean the guys birthing hips, birthing hips.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
He's truly amazing. Jay Dyer. Everybody, how are you, Jay?

Speaker 3 (00:26):
I'm doing great, Sam and Company, How are you guys?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
One of the one of the best follows on Twitter
by far. I love your Twitter, I love following it,
and you're crushing it Ja. For those who are new
to timfolhat and don't, don't I haven't seen your many
appearances on the show. Can you tell us a little
bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, you can find me at Jason alsos dot com.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
You can find me on Twitter under my name Jay Dyer, Instagram, YouTube,
all the same outlets as everybody else, and I cover
everything from geopolitics to philosophy to film to theology. Been
written for the Sam Hide Show this whole first season
that we put out, which is a great comedy show
that you should check out and a host the fourth

(01:15):
hour of The Alex Jones Show most Fridays, although that's
been a little bit rocky of late due to legal
issues with Alex. But I think as we go forward
into the future, when he sets up the Alex Jones Network,
I'll continue hosting there as well, so you can find
me on that and all of these great podcasts like
your own.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Dude, You're crushing it. You're made for the modern day.
You're debating everybody, you're calling out. It's like you're walking
down the street code.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Who wants a fight.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Fight.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
I'll fight anybody right now.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
And then you know, people come up and you kick
their asses. You recently were on Alex Jones and it
was a really incredible episode because you guys, you know,
started to dive deep into the Hitler syop and I
loved it, you know, and it's good to see Alex

(02:07):
Jones going there because the whole thing was, hey, he
had he had a blind spot for things like that.
You know, again, when you're at that level, it's a
little different game than I think some people understand. You're
You're you're literally dealing with bazillions of idiots who just
want to hate their life and just want to dump

(02:29):
on you. You know, the greatest example of I think
the best evidence for Hitler being a syop is Elbert
Pike's famous quote, which is when they need a hero,
we will supply them. And that totally fits what the
whole Hitler situation and what they represented. So I'm excited

(02:51):
to talk to you about it. Where do you want
to begin.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Well, one thing I'll say is that it's important to
avoid dialectics here because people kind of assume that, well,
you're either pro Zionist or you're a pro Hitler, right like,
as if there's these only two options, and I mean,
in my view they both faking gay. I can, in
a nuanced way reject both these positions and have a
different option. And that's because I put a lot of

(03:15):
time into studying this from historical perspective.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
I'm not a World War Two historian. I do have
a degree in history.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
So there's a great book called Tragian Hope, which is
written from the bantage point of the establishment.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
So Carol Quickly was Bill Clinton's mentor.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
He's writing, as he notes from the Council on Foreign
Relation Archives. When he writes those books, it's kind of like, yeah, right, yeah.
Everybody always jokes that, like, I don't actually read the book,
it's just fake. I just stick tabs in it to
look like a part. But no, I really did read
this book. I did a lecture on it ten years ago.
We did ten eight lectures through the whole text because

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it's so important. You know, Richard Groove basically created an
entire website called Tragian Hope on the base of this
book because it's so important. And you got Bill Clinton's
mentor Carol quickly fighting from the vantage point of the establishment.
And every time I talk about this book, all of
these Hitler retards act like I'm citing the book.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
As if he's.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Good and a good dude, and I'm like, on the
side of the liberal neoliberal establishment. No, I'm saying this
book admits that Hitler was goaded into going into Poland,
going into Czechoslovakia, and I'll show you some of the quotes.
His early rise was funded by the Bank of England
and the Cologne Bank, and that was to get him

(04:29):
into the war. So we shouldn't be so naive as
to think, oh, Hitler was just this total mind control
British intelligence agent. Rather, there was a secret deal going
on with the British establishment to tell Hitler go into Poland,
go into Czecholovakia, take the three billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Of check gold.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
We will not oppose you, but we're going to have
a public policy that we're against you. But trust us,
we will allow you to do these things. We actually
are on your side. So there's the double cross. That's
what happened with Hitler, according to Quickly, and he's got
tons and tons of information about the secret meetings between
Ribbon trop and the British elites and how they continued

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to say.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Oh, don't worry, keep going, keep going, We're on your side.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Then boom, they flip and get American into the war
and they go against Hitler.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
So there was a strategy to have World War two.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
And the other thing that's really contentious that people don't
talk about that I think makes perfect sense, and there's
quite a few books written on this. Hitler was necessary
for the recognition and establishment of the nation state of Israel.
If you had not had World War two, if you've
not had the Hvara agreement between the Nazis and the
Zionists and the migration of so many Jews to Palestine,

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which was by design, going all the way back to
the eighteen sixties and the Rothchild biographies, and according to
Moses Hess that's what lays the groundwork for the recognition
of the Nationate of Israel by the UN in nineteen
forty eight. So in a way, like you needed this
figure here, as you said, Sam, this villain to have

(06:04):
where we where we are now. So this is what
enrages you know, the Hitler people when you talk about
this all the fake neo Nazis on Twitter. But at
the same time, that doesn't make me a fan of
the rothsch Ells and the Zionis, Like I can criticize
that whole uh, you know Gaza, you know, project to
basically genocide people, some of whom may not the majority,

(06:28):
but some of them are actually Orthodox Christians. So no,
it's it's a very nuanced position, and this whole thing
thrives on meme warfare and not being nuanced.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's uh, it's a very in depth conversation that's very
dangerous because both sides want Hitler to be this kind
of mythical creature, like their whole existence is built on Hitler,

(06:59):
good guy Hitler, bad guy. Yes, and they can't come
to grips with it that Hitler is just like almost
all these guys. Like as I listened to you talk
about how they goaded him into going into these other countries,
that's the exact same game plan they did with his Saddam. Yes, yeah, dude,

(07:20):
go go in there, Dude, go into Kuwait. Yeah, dude,
we totally got your back. Man, go to Kuwait, do
what you gotta do. And then when he does it,
they pound him well.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
And the thing that people don't acknowledge when they researched
this history, especially like you don't see in a lot
of history books, is or at least not the way
it's taught, is that before Britain and France declared war
on Germany, they had only retaken German territory with German
speaking people. And then France and England declared war on them,
and then they invaded France. Now they had plans for

(07:52):
France obviously going you know, going around the imagine online,
but those I mean in Poland they took Dancig that's
those are German.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
So it goes deeper, Johnny, because the Polish were ethnically
cleansing Germans in Poland.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Yeah, yeah, I mean sure, yeah, that's what I'm saying,
that that Danzig was those were German people, and then
the sedate and Lando was sedate and Germans in Czechoslovakia.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, And nobody wants to take a look at any
of that because it doesn't fit a narrative, you know, exactly. Yeah,
but how how how deep do we go with this?
We've had past guests on, you know, there's the discussion
of Hitler being.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
A wroth child.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
The the Hitler Dick riders will tell you, oh, that
was this therapist.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
It was made up. We've had guests come on and say,
that's not actually true.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
It was his niece that is the one that told
everybody that he was a wroth child because he was, uh,
he was essaying her and she wanted not to be
with him anymore.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
And then she turns up dead.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
And yeah, I mean now that, yeah, you're right, there
does seem to be like credible claims about the PDF stuff.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
I don't know about the whole raw child stuff.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
I'm aware of that theory, but I just kind of
go with like what is documented in the CFR archives,
which people say, oh, well that could all be lies
in deception. Well why would Quickly, who's a believer in
the establishment, put out information that damages the establishment? Like,
it doesn't make any sense from that vantage front, because
this book wasn't written to be read by the masses.

(09:30):
It was a book written for kind of the political class,
the you know, CIA level people. It was given out
to CIA section chiefs in the Cold War. So it's
not a book written for the masses. But I'll start
by mentioning on page ten fifty nine, Quickly says that
the British Anglo Iranian Oil Company was the world petroleum
cartel sort of you know, controlling entity. Together with the

(09:54):
American government and the Iranian elite, they all combined to
crush Mozedic. The chief effort came from the American Secret
Intelligence Agency, newly established as the CIA after the OSS
a few years earlier. Dulles, a former member of director
of Schroeder Bank in New York, was an old associate
of Frank Tiors and was a partner in Schroder Bank

(10:16):
in London in nineteen oh two. He was then a
director of the Bank of England from nineteen twelve to
nineteen forty five, as well as Lazard Brothers.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Bank and working at the bank.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Listen to this Anglo Rani oil company. It will be
recalled that Schroeder Bank in Cologne helped arrange Hitler's accession
to power as chancellor in nineteen thirty three. So you
have a French bank helping to bring Hitler to power early,
early on in nineteen thirty three.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
That's just the beginning.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
If you go to Germany, as you guys all know,
in the nineteen thirties, from thirty one to thirty three,
there were very powerful Jewish banking interests in Germany that
were involved in the decline of the German economy and
of course German morals. So there were aspects to what

(11:08):
Hitler was criticizing that were legitimate criticisms. But this idea
that like, oh, it was all organic. He just rose
to power because he was such a popular speaker and
figure and all this kind of stuff. What they don't
talk about is what's called this the secret seven point deal.
So there's a seven point plan early on that the
British made with Hitler that Hitler would be supported because

(11:32):
he would be a bulwark against communism. This is what
they're telling Hitler. Secretly, they're telling the public something totally different.
The British elite there would be a four power pact
between Britain, France, Italy and Germany to exclude Russian influence
in Europe. Britain had no objection to Germany acquiring Austria,
Czechoslovakia and Danzig. This is point three of the seven

(11:53):
point plan Germany and this deal must not use force
to achieve its aims in Europe, as this would precipitate war.
Britain would agree to certain It says they would not
allow for the German the bombing of Britain, which as
we know, Hitler didn't want to bomb the UK. And

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then there's a couple more points about an open door
policy of trade. And this then led to Hitler doing
what he did after being promised that the British elite
secretly supported him and there were continual meetings with Ribbentrop
and the Roundtable elites, and this is mentioned by Quickly

(12:36):
on page six twenty one. So this idea that you
know either that he was this heroic figure or that
he was not supported by the establishment, or that he
was this world's ultimate villain. All of that's not true,
and the truth is something more nuanced. As we're talking
about that the UK elites wanted this war, and one

(12:57):
reason they wanted this war, It's not the only reason,
but one reason they wanted it was because the factions
of the British elite. You had the Zionist faction and
you had the Araba file faction. So the British spies
that we talked about last time I was on with you,
people like T. E. Lawrence, people like Gertrude Bell, people
like Saint John Philby who became a Muslim. Those guys

(13:17):
and girls, they were all super pro Arab and they
liked Islam. There's another faction of the British elite though,
like Cecil Rhods.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Rothschild et cetera. They were very rapidly Prosionists.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
This is obviously the Jewish faction of the British elite,
and the Rothchilds have been utilized in the British Empire
for a long time kind of for a lot of
their purposes. For example, to take into the Suez Canal.
According to Quigley, that was done of the best of
the Rothchilds. Rothchild's put money into Cecil roads and all
of his diamond slave farms in Africa.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
So that's all one side of this power structure.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Well, obviously the broth Childs wanted the establishment of a
Jewish homeland to replace the Palestinian state that already existed
in Israel, and that's exactly what they got out of
this World War two scenario.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
That's not all they wanted.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Eventually, there's a plan for global governance and a Fabian
socialist governance throughout the world.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
And people say, well, the Fabians or are the Jews?

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Dude, It's the same plan because Moses has in his
book Roman Jerusalem says we will establish Jerusalem and Israel
as a world socialist hub to be the thing that
saves the world through socialism. That's the same plan as
the Fabian socialist in Britain. It's just the Fabian socialist
in Britain are atheists. They don't care about the nation

(14:37):
state of Israel. So they're just debating basically about where
the center of world socialism will be. And that's why
Moses has Heinweitzmann, Theodore Hertzel, they're all believers in socialism.
They're not really theists. They're more like pantheists or new
Agers kind of. But they believe that world socialism will
be the answer out of the diale ectical conflicts of

(15:01):
World War One and World War two that will bring
about the global governance.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Wow, it's in Moses Has's book.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
He actually says this, it's that's that's actually insanity and
it's so crazy.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
This is before Albert Pike, by the way, writing that
all the Albert Pike stuff.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Let me grab that Moses Has book, Okay, go grab it,
which kind of fits in right now to what happened
in New York City, right.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Absolutely, Yeah, Islam is not like out of the span
of this. This is Moses Has his book Revival of Israel,
and before there was any political Zionist movement. He wrote
this book in eighteen sixty two and it's considered prophetic. Right,
it was ignored until nineteen oh two. But he's the

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guy that influenced his Theodore Hertzel. You wouldn't have hit
Theodore Hurtzel without Moses Has. And Moses Has is the
founder of utopian socialism. So when he writes this book,
he says, there are many Rabbi is presently interested in
utilizing Freemasonry. This is page one, fourteen, as a means

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to amalgamate all the religions into one religion. Through this,
then we will have a global government. This is page
one fifteen s record.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
So crazy, dude, it's so crazy. Wow.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Then he goes on to say later on, this is
eighteen sixty two. He says, we are going to build
a new third Temple. We're going to have a Jewish homeland,
and the Rothschilds are behind this eighteen sixty two, way
before Zionism right here.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Wow, I'm writing this.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
So this idea that like all of this is, you know,
all coming out of like you know, nineteen hundreds, it
is not true. It was planned way before that. By
the way, my publisher that just published my third Hollywood book,
so we've got let's see it nice a thousand pages
now on Hollywood, mind control and all that.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
They just put out a book.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
I didn't even know this was coming out, but it
just now came out. Two World Wars and Hitler, and
it's about everything I'm talking about right now. Who funded
Hitler's rise the British elite goading event today?

Speaker 1 (17:23):
What is the book's name?

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Sorry, it's called two World Wars and.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Hitler and Hitler okay.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
By McGregor and O'Dowd, And basically the whole book is
just what we're talking about, which is, you know, Anthony
Sutton wrote a trilogy a long time ago about Wall
Street funding Bolsheviks and Hitler, So both sides of that
get funded.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
And it's not all the same people.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
But the point is that wealthy people make money from
war wars Iraq.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
There's also correct me if I'm wrong, but there's also
some geopolitic maneuvering going on because Israel is the quickest
route to get goods from Africa and Asia into Europe.
So if you control that route, which is whether you're
in the Kazarians or not, and what the Kazarians are

(18:17):
I can hear Adam Green screaming right now, but you
know whatever you believe in that, Okay. They they used
to control trade routes, They controlled parts of the Silk Road,
and that's how they made their money. And again, when
you look at all these canals they want to put
ray through Gaza, it totally fit. Which would it's so

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crazy to watch Egypt basically sign their own seuside now,
because what the Israelis want to do is create a
two way canal. You know Suez Canal is that that's
in Egypt, right, That is that is a one way canal,
So they have to do one way this way, one
that way. And this new canal that Israel wants to

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put in would be a two way canal, which would
allow goods to move in quicker.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
And that's why they want to control that shit. And
I think that was the plan from the jump, was to.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Get absolutely see if you can read this, just this
sentence right here where my fingers are.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Can you guys read that?

Speaker 2 (19:26):
I see Egypt, That's all I see. Could you read
it to us? Because I'm illiterate and he speaks a
second language, Johnny, can you see it? Can you read it?

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Dizrael's purchased with raw.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Child money of one hundred and seventy six basically thousand.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
I can't see that word from the Egypt.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
Yeah, I can't see this something of you.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yeah, okay, I'll just read it.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
It says Benjamin Disraeli, the British Prime minister, purchased with
rawchild mind the Suez Canal in eighteen seventy five.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
That's a goodbye that's a great thought, good value.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Well it's technically it's the stock but basically, yeah, there.
So the point is that Disraeli was the first Jewish
Prime Minister of Britain, but he's working as an operative
of the Rothschild's admittedly according to Quigley, and yeah, that
was they were behind the Suez Canal.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
That's incredible.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
And this is not a conspiracy text.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Again, people have to understand, this is not a book
by some unknown obscure theoretician. This is a guy who
is at the top of the CFR level, you know,
archivist historian. He's a military historian, big geopolitical strategist, wrote
wrote many many books, and he's basically admitting most of
what the conspiracy theorists have said, you know, all over

(20:53):
the place for the for the last one hundred years.
So yeah, I mean there's a lot more that goes
into this. I mean that it's not just the seven
point strategy, but they're basically setting up a banking system
and structure which is the overall plan. It's called the
Pariboss system and this is mentioned on page five twenty five.
All that is is the Rothschild banking system and then

(21:14):
anyone who would go against this, they would say, oh,
you're antisemitic.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
So this is actually an old trick to do this,
you know, where you.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Play a victim and you can get a lot done
under pretending like you know, everyone is being mean to you,
when ultimately you have a very cunning you know, long
term I can't pray more.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Dude, that was the most real shit. That's so the
most So I'm I'm in this kind of place right now. Comedically,
you know, Leonardo Joni goes way harder than I do, Okay,
and that's why she's great. But because I love everybody
like I don't, there's no group I'm like, fuck, I
do too. You know, ideologies I have a real problem with.

(21:55):
You know, but people I like, and I think most
the if you look at a group of people, the base,
the middle there they tend to be like chill people.
It's the people at the top that act like fools,
and then the base and the middle have to defend
them at all costs because they think it reflects on them.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
And I've been saying this forever.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
It's like, if you want to live in a proper society,
you have to get rid.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Of political correctness. You have to.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Because political correctness is a shield that allows idiots act
like fools. Okay, and we've seen that, like in the
eighties when we see saw a ramp up in political correctness,
particularly white people the black people, and this kind of
thing where any discussion of by white people about black
people instantly falls under racism.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
You can't discuss it at all.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
And what happens is when you create this kind of
bubble that shields criticism, people start to they just start
to change because there's no outside influence. There's nobody outside
them going hey, dude, that's stupid, don't do that. And
then it's just a bunch of people. It's like it's

(23:06):
like a friend of mine, I've told the story before
he went to UH, he was going to college, my
friend Marcus. There's like eight of us in this uh
in this chat from high school and Marcus is the
only black guy, and he he was going to play
football and he had the choice between going to Washington
University or this historically black college. And his father was like,

(23:27):
don't go to the who's black, said, don't go to
historically black college because that's not real life. That's that
you're going to be living with all these different kinds
of people. You got to learn how to live with
them and how to interact with them. And but if
you go to a historically black college, and I'm not
saying anything about the education, it's probably excellent, but you

(23:48):
just have the same there. It's all the same people.
There's no outside descent going. That doesn't make any sense
that you need outside influence to correct behavior. It's like
men act in certain ways because women reward and punish behavior.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
You have to have that. But what we saw through.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Political correctness were these bubbles being put on all these
different groups where outside people couldn't criticize them, and then
they just got to the extreme, and it's not good.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
It's not good for everybody.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Then you look at the other other way around, where black, Hispanics, gays,
women could all criticize white guys, and look what happened
to white guys. They're not overtly racists like they used
to be. They're more conscious of like people and their feelings.
And because they had outside influences coming in and telling you, hey,

(24:41):
you can't.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Act like that. This is the same thing.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
This is my whole point in comedy right now, It's like,
you can't have a group, especially as powerful as particular
groups that are positioned in every point of power, and
also treat them like a marginalized group and a protected class.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
You can't have that.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
You have to have open discussion about what is going on.
And I think this is very important because it goes
back long story to get back to what Jason said,
which is like, or Jay, is Jason.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Offensive to you?

Speaker 3 (25:15):
By the way, that's my legal name?

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Okay, okay, I love your legal Christian name.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
So you have to have this because what they do,
just like Jason Jay said, is you create anti Semitism
as a shield. Are you Samuel or I'll go by
sam Samuel. Are you sam Il Samuel? Well, I'm just
happy you call my name at all. So you can't.
You can't have that. And that's done on purpose to

(25:44):
allow people to act without criticism, and you.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Cannot have that. You have to have open dialogue.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
It's the only way you get people back on track
to living civil with each other.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
This, well, yeah, it's actually turning into beyond just dialogue.
It's becoming criminal activities. So political correctness is now actually
allowing for and covering up crimes and crimes against white people,
crimes against other you know, minorities.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Remember when that.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
All the Asians were getting punched and if you talked
about it, you're racist because you can't say that black
people are committing these crimes and punching.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
You just see a black eyed clock, a grandma, an
Asian grandma, and they're like, why is this white hate
so prevalent?

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Right, I mean, yeah, it's covenant for criminal activity. But
we could probably figure out a way for you to
rise up in the ranks of the oppression Olympics if
we could either class you as the minority of an
Armenian or guys named Sam, and if you collectivize all
the guys named Sam and say that you're being oppressed.
As you know, the guys named Sam don't get jobs,

(26:52):
they don't get hired.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, I'm trying to put out that I'm gay, just
putting it out there, and then I could so Netflix
will give me a I'm like a minority, I'm gay,
put it out there, let me have a special and
we'll and I'll thrive.

Speaker 6 (27:06):
You don't think they'll make you prove it.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
I just got to say, dude, that's what AI said.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Here's my only fans of me getting weird, gay gay Ay,
It's gonna be huge.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
But you're you know, you're totally right. This is all
you know.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
So the question to that I have for you, Jay,
is when we talk about the Rothschilds, are we talking
about the Jays or are we talking about when.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
We study them?

Speaker 2 (27:32):
And if there's someone to talk to about this, it's
you when you study their symbolism when you.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
I'm a Jewish child.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, yeah, Well, well you study the occult, right, so
like you would, you would know this.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
And and if I'm wrong, I'm finally being wrong.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
But is it really Abrahamic religions or is it really
much beyond that? And it's into the dark arts and
the occult and and all that stuff, and they kind
of wear these religions mass so they could walk amongst us.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
So I think with the Rothschilds, it's hard to say
to what degree each specific because you have a dynasty
of people in different you know, European countries in the
US as well, and I mean you could have a
lot of variation amongst the people, some taking the religion seriously,
some people not, some people getting into the occult side.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Of it.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
For example, in the case of the main ideologue of
Zionism on the side of the Rothschilds, you have Edmund,
who is the French side of it. And Edmund seemed
to be, as far as I could tell from the
biographers that I've read more of a not politically minded,
more of a religiously minded Jewish guy. So I think

(28:48):
for him he really wanted to try to I'm not
saying he's good. I'm just saying he wanted to purchase
sites in Israel for Jewish pilgrims. He wasn't even political,
and it was actually a lot of arguments and debates
that he had with people like Moses hes and Hein Weitzman,
who were the more politically mind designists. They actually thought

(29:09):
that it was bad for the family if they got
involved in this, you know, contentious political issue, and they
didn't want to make all the Arabs mad, So at
first they were not really for this, and that's why
Edmund's decision was to just at the late eighteen hundreds
just purchase sections of land in Israel from a powerful
Turkish sultan, because a lot of that was under autom

(29:31):
and control, and so you can't even say that it's
like all Rochell's fault if you wanted to pick bad guys,
because well, I mean there's a Turkish sultan who's selling
out the Palestinians by selling this land to the Rothchilds.
So there's a lot of you know, nefarious figures on
all sides. But to make a quicker answer for your question, yeah,

(29:52):
I think that there were probably elements of that family
that were into the Sabbatian type of Judaism that was
more openly Satanic.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Kabbalism has always been a side of Judaism that actually
inverts good and evil and more it's more of gnosticism
where it's like, you know, God is good.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
And evil at the same time.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
And then you've got more openly kind of you know,
vicious things in the Talmut about you know, Christians are
the worst, Jesus is boiling and excrement.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
All that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
So the thing with Judaism is that it's less codified
in terms of ideology than people think, because the Talmud
kind of allows you to construct it however you want.
And within Judaism, if I had if I had an
issue like oh, should I you know, put my peepee
in the.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Poo poo, and I go ask my rabbi. My rabbi
says yes.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Then in Judaism you can do it, uh, And you
don't go and ask other rabbis to see if that
rabbi was right, you know exactly. You just go by
whatever your local rabbi says.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
So, yeah, I can put the peep in the pooboo
because the rabbi told me so.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
So it's very relativistic, but at the same time, it's
also uh, very kind of It's kind of the prototype,
in my view of a secret society religion. So I
view it kind of more like organized crime or a cult.
And that's why if you look at the way the
you know, the really strict Haredi and you know Hubbad

(31:19):
and these groups operate like it's a really weird thing
where you trick.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
God, you know what I'm talking about with like the
light switches.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
Yeah, there are some buildings here that have elevators on
front that stop on every floor on the Sabbath because
they can't interact with the elevator you know, stuff, They
just get in and wait for it to go through.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
So you trick God by like oh, I can't be.
I can't go outside on the Sabbath and walk too
many steps. So if I put a string around the neighborhood,
then it's indoors.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
It's just retarded. So that's a cult, dude, that's.

Speaker 5 (31:50):
The stopist gooy. You know you have a non Jew
to do all these little light switches and stuff for
you specifically for that.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, the trick got crazy, and God's like, well they are.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
It's the things are It goes right back to the Pharisees.
It's that same thing where they wear.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
It's the Pharisee Talmudic.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Absolutely, that's the Talmud, is the codification of that, you know,
Pharissekal tradition.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
Can I can ask you what's the theological underpinning for
the thing with the rabbis? Is that? Is it because
he is the representative God on earth? Is it like
the kind of akin to Catholicism in that way or
is there some other I.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Mean, well, so basically when Israel, when the Jews were
in the land, back in the Old Testament, it was
difficult for everybody to go to the temple, right, so
what happened was Ezra.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
If you read in the Bible, there's a book of Ezra.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Ezra came up with the idea to set up a
synagogue system where throughout the land of Israel you would
have local places of worship to you know, read the
text and do the prayers. The synagogue system then as
that there was a diaspora, like it spread everywhere else too,
so Jews would have synagogues where they could work, especially
during the period when the temples destroyed after seventy eight,

(33:04):
right like there was no temple, so they had to
rely on the synagogue.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
So practical, it kind of made sense in that it
was a.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Practical way to kind of ensure that you could have
the pedagogy of learning the law. But even in the
day of Jeremiah, if you read the Book of Jeremiah,
he's already complaining about the lying pen of the scribe
and the scholar, which would be the proto pharisees, beginning
to supplant the divine revelation and the Word of God

(33:31):
with the man made traditions. So when Jesus in Matthew
twenty three says, you know, the scribes and the pharisees
or hypocrites, they follow the traditions of men over the
Word of God. He's not saying something new, He's actually
just echoing what Jeremiah said to the who would be
the proto Pharisees of his day. So there's a parallel
there that I think, what you know, if you're a Christian,

(33:51):
that leads to the separation of Christianity and Rabbinic Judaism.
In the first, second and third centuries, there's a lot
of debates that were going on amongst the fathers and
the rabbis in that period. So this is where you
get the split between Christianity going off in this direction
as what it sees as authentic spiritual Judaism versus Rabbinic

(34:12):
Judaism going in a different direction. You know, the kind
of stuff that Adam Green thinks that, you know, that's
all Christianity just is the same. It's all the same thing, right,
It's a giant conspiracy which absolutely makes no sense given
the fact that you know, Rabbinic Judaism absolutely hates Christianity,
has always persecuted it. You go to Israel right now,
you get spit on if you try to go, you know,
to certain locations. I mean, they spray the poop cannons

(34:36):
at the Orthodox Palestinian Arab Christians.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
So I can't believe there's poop cannons.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
And how can you buy one?

Speaker 4 (34:45):
I mean, we were talking about that on the Sam
Hide Show and like he hadn't heard of that.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
He was like, is this real? What is that real thing?

Speaker 6 (34:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, and it's weird the mental gymnastics people have to
do to get to be okay with.

Speaker 5 (34:57):
That, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Off.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yes, we only got.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Spit on once.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
It's like, well, congratulations, Wow, I'm happy for you. You you're
living your best life. So not that I don't want
to I don't want to stay on this too long.
But when we look at like again you came on you,
you drop some bombs on us last time about.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Britain and the rolling in the Middle East.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
When we take a look at like Mecca and the
Black Cube, and then you know, there's always these pictures
of rabbis or whenever somebody who is Jewish starts feeling
like it's getting a little too hot out there. Uh,
they like to show them with the weird black hat
on and the BDSM wraps around their arms and.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
But it's a black cube. It's a black cube on
their head.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
I mean, it seems to be prevalent this thing that
I that I'm not trying to stay on it too
long or force you to say anything, but it just
seems like there are clues of deeper meaning and loyalty.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
I mean, definitely within the mystical side of Judaism, there's
quite a bit of America. There's magic, so there's sorcery.
I mean, there is all of that stuff in certain
strands and sort of secret traditions of Judaism. And I
mean even the top Kabbalist scholars like Gersham Scholm, who's

(36:31):
one of the top cabalistic Jewish scholars of the last century.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
I've read several of his books.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
He just says that all kabbala Is is like Jewish Gnosticism.
So it's the same idea that the early heterodox Christian
Gnostics taught, which is just sort of adapting elements of
Far Eastern philosophy and Platonism, and it's not really Christianity
or anything to do with Jesus. It's more of an
esoteric mystery tradition. That's what Kabbalism is in Judaism. So

(37:00):
that's correct. And but again you can have as many
Judaisms as there are Jews. I mean, it's it's kind
of all over the place. There's not one kabbala system.
There's like all kinds of variations. So if you talk
to one cabalistic rabbi, he'll have a totally different system
from I mean, I'll have some parallels, but another cabalistic rabbi.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Can that be applied to Christianity as well?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
With you know, yeah, Protestism you have, you have Cathalicism
you have.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
Yeah, that's different than no.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
I mean, I'm not there to a degree accusing, I'm asking.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yeah, you know, I mean it depends like that.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
You could find some parallels there with like you know,
in the Middle Ages, in the Latin Roman Catholic world,
there were some mystics, there were people that were into
Christian kabbala. There were versions of this. Sure, there were
people who you know, kind of combined. For example, in
the Renaissance Pico della Mirandola, a lot of those figures

(37:59):
were into renas on its magic, and they thought that
you could combine Roman Catholicism with elements of you know,
occult magic and whatnot, so neoplatonism.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
So yeah, you could find.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Parallels like that, And to get back to your question
about the cubes, I don't exactly know where Islam got
the idea for a cube. It is interesting because you know,
the rock itself is just this meteor that's there, and
then they sort of put a cube over it.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Dude, it's like.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Crazy, Yeah, I mean it's we know for sure that
it's you know, even the Muslims will admit, like, that's
an old pagan site. That's where the Arab pagans would
come and there was something like three hundred and sixty
you know, deities that you could worship at Mecca.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
And then when when when Mohammad mix I'll think a
little this, a little bit like mister potato, God right,
God together.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
And then you know, when Mohammad conquered that area, he
turned it into supposedly worship of Monotheism. But even within
as you pointed out, Islam, there's also a mystical tradition
there as well, Sufism that has all the same kind
of esoteric cabalistic principles. And so whether it's Kabbala or

(39:16):
whether it's mystical Islam, which is Sufhism like, or mystical Christianity,
they're all influenced by Neoplatonism and Kabbalism for.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Neo Platonism, because I'm not that smart.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
So we all know about Plato and Aristol, right, so
they're probably the two most famous Greek philosophers, and they
you know, Aristotle was a student of Plato. Plato taught
a mystical transcendent philosophy that the realm of the beyond
and the transcendent is the real world, and we live
in this kind of pale dreamlike reflection of the real world.

(39:49):
Aristotle said, that doesn't really make a lot of sense.
We need to study this world and not worry so
much about some transcendent realm. There could be that, and
there's kind of some form of the heavens, Aristotle thought.
But Aristotol much more was much more practical and more
of a scientist, whereas Plato was much more of a
kind of a.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Mystical theological speculator. Right.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
So, by the time of the first, second and third
century in the Roman Empire and amongst debates with Christians
and whatnot, you had a revival of this philosophy, and
there were certain philosophers called Neoplatonists, middle Platonists, or neoplatonists.
So this would be people like Platinus or Iamblicus, and
they thought that they could kind of combine Aristona Plato

(40:35):
to come up with the right philosophy. And so it's
just called neoplatonism. And basically it's you know, when you
see that tree of the Kabbala like that, they kind
of had an earlier version of that, that the Kabala
is ripping that off. And if you look at something
like the Porphyrian tree Porphyry. Porphyry was another one of
these neoplatonic philosophers. They just simply thought that all of

(40:57):
reality was kind of structured in these nations or dimensions,
and that became a popular pattern for philosopher scientists throughout,
you know, the first thousand years of the Christian Church,
even to try to kind of categorize the world that
it exists in these in a hierarchical structure, the chain

(41:18):
of beings, something like that. So it became a very
popular way to understand and study the world from a
philosophical perspective.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Does that make sense, Yes, it does, it does. So
I want to get into freemasonry. You know, I've read
many books about freemasonry. The Scottish Rite and their role
in the establishment of Israel. I have a very good
friend ag. He's a high ranking freemason in you know,

(41:49):
the south of the Southwest. He wants to come on
talk freemasonry. I'm totally open to it because I would
just like to learn about all these things. And we've
had in depth discussions on it.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
You know.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
I don't want to join any group, but I always
like to learn, you know.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
And so you know, he goes.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Everyone has this view of freemasonry, and it's like, really
not that he goes. It's like, we it's just a
social club in a in a weird way, and I
understand that. So my whole thing was like, but like
any group, dude, when you move up it, it starts
to get a little dicey, it gets it gets denser

(42:30):
and denser, and you start running into psychopaths and alternative
motives and secret society stuff and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
What is your thoughts on that?

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Because this old I mean, it's basically like, we're just
it's just a club, you know, we have our rules,
we all hang out, we and we you know, and
he gives he always tells me these great stories and
it's very interesting. Uh. But you know, because right now,
you know a lot of people see Freemasons as the book.
If it's not Zionis, it's the boogie, it's the Freemason boogeyman.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
What is your thoughts on that?

Speaker 4 (43:06):
I mean, Freemasonry is in many ways kind of a
Judaized view, and it's had a lot of influence from
Judaism and the Talmud and all that kind of stuff,
So I mean, it's not it's kind of some people
call it Judaism for the Gentiles. So it's kind of
an alternate version of what the Christian Church was supposed
to be, or is supposed to be Judaism, true Judaism,

(43:26):
spiritual Judaism for the Gentiles. That's what orthodox Christianity says,
the Church is as the new Israel or the true
spiritual Israel. But you have this other alternate version of
it which arose out of the medieval Stonemason guilds. And
the reason that that happened was that in Western Europe
at that time, if you had the knowledge of how

(43:46):
to construct a cathedral or something like that, that was
a trade secret. You don't want to give that to everybody,
So people would join the guild to learn the craft
of how to build, you know, a cathedral. So it
didn't begin as anything nefarious, but that model of trade
secrets became a very powerful vehicle for other types of secrets.
So you would have secret societies they could use that

(44:08):
same model that would utilize these trade guilds and networks
and whatnot. That eventually became a vehicle for what's called
speculative freemasonry, which was more of a esoteric you know,
experimenting with alchemy that kind of stuff. These all over
the place, and this is like fifteen hundreds is when
this really kind of kicks off, and eventually, by I

(44:29):
think the mid fifteen hundreds, there were quite a few
lodges throughout Europe that were called speculative free Masonic lodges,
So they kind of became havens for people that were
practicing occultism or alchemy, or things that were in terms
of the public Christian laws seen as you know, heterodox heresy,
you know, occult or whatever. So you could see then

(44:54):
that it becomes a good vehicle for not just practicing
the door courts, as Theovon says, but also a way
to practice espionage. So secret societies also kind of overlap
with espionage. That's why for example, in England, Queen Elizabeth,
as you guys know, you know, her chief spy was

(45:14):
John Dee, and he was a magician, he was into
and he created an Nokian magic which was probably just
a way to do you know, cryptography and transmit spy
messages or whatever.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
But you see with that, then the first.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
Double O seven, right, James Bond is John d He's
a magician, so he's a court magist, He's involved in
these esoteric societies, secret groups, her meticism, and then it
eventually evolves into the establishment of the Grand Lodge of
England in the early seventeen hundreds and that becomes the spy.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Network for the British Empire.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
So Freemasonry is very much connected to at least for
the British espionage, British imperial spying. And there are you know,
quite a few people who are really interested in studying alchemy,
you know, geometry, esoteric stuff.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
So it becomes all the above.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Nowadays, I think probably younger generations don't care about Freemasonic
lodges because, as you pointed out, for a lot of people,
especially in America, like my granddad was a Mason.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
That kind of like it was.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
More of a social club for dudes to get away
from women and probably watch pornos or something. Right, But
at the higher level, when you get up to like
invited to the thirty third degree, that's an invitation only
to d C, to the Grand Lodge in Washington, d C.
Where you're tapped for you know, more serious stuff. So

(46:39):
probably your buddy. I have a family member who's a
thirty second degree Scottish Rite Mason, and he doesn't know
anything about any of this stuff. Like I started quoting
to him, I have morals and dogma. I've read significant
portions of it. I mean, there's a whole section, for example,
on neoplatonism. Pike says that real Christianity is Christianity is

(47:00):
a veil and.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
A cover for neoplatonism. There's a whole chapter on that.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
So I started talking to my relative about this and
he had no clue what I was talking about. So
even people at the thirty second degree don't know anything,
So I think you have to go you know, higher
up into thirty third degree.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
You get invited to d C.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
That's when it gets more serious and ties into you know,
the Queen of England and the Duke of Kent, right,
or the official heads of global Freemasonry.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
What does that tell you?

Speaker 6 (47:28):
Do you have to get invented in because we've been invited.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
I was invited one time in San Francisco too.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
No, no, no, you're going to get invited to the Blue Lodge.
I'm talking about invitation to the thirty third degree.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
That's in d C.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
That's only for specific people who risen to the thirty
second degree. So if you've risen to thirty second degree
and they've profiled you and they don't think you're worth,
you're not useful, You're not going to be invited to
this to d C for the thirty third degree.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Well, you brought up magic, and I want to get
back to Britain and Zionism. But well you brought up magic.
When you say magic, what do you mean by magic?
Are we talking energy manipulation? Are we talking doctors Strange
from the Avengers? Because I think we're I think that's
what it is. It's just not as obvious. Yeah, we're

(48:24):
going to have links to the book.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
Man's the publisher put doctor Strange on the front. I
thought that was just funny you said, Oh crazy dude,
they stuck him on there.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Well, I think that, yeah, the idea.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
For example, if you look at Croley's magic theory and practice,
he says that magic is just simply the imposition of
your will on the external world. So to achieve your
will as an effect on the external world. So if
you want to be uh, you know the.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
If you want wealth and power, then magic is you
exercising your abilities to attain that. And then that could
be anything from just doing performance art like Lady Gaga
she conceives of her stuff is like magic or whatever,
or witchcraft, or it could be you doing rituals, you know,
invoking deities to achieve that effect.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
So I think magic encompasses all the above. It's, you know,
imposing your will to get an achieved effect.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Super interesting.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
I just think we I think it's it's just it's
Avenger shit, doctor Strange shit, but not as obvious like
Harry Potter shit.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Just not as obvious. You can't it's not.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Like you see like OOO and the like the lightning
bolts come ov as hand, but there was energy manipulation
going on.

Speaker 6 (49:46):
Yeah, it's kind of like that's a good way to
put it, like manifesting it.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
It doesn't have manifesting, but I think it's even more
concrete than that. Like, you know, we had the gentleman
on who was talking about magic and sports because everyone
thinks they're rigging it by telling a guy, and we've
seen that in the NBA, But that's like I think
basic bit shit like Terry Rogier dribble off your leg,

(50:10):
you know, and he's like, oh god, dribble, I'm a
professional basketball player, you know. But I think it's also
like literally manipulating the energy of the game so things
go certain ways.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Yeah, that's that's definitely what the may just wants to do.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
Whether they can actually do that, and like what means
they used to go about doing that is I guess
the you know.

Speaker 5 (50:34):
What I mean, other than a bunch of people. Yeah,
with energy energy into the totally good players see it
in every point by a home field event is worth
three points. We know it in.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Football, so so you know, with the Holy Charlie Kirk assassination,
it's very famous that all these TikTok witches we're putting
curses on him, and you don't know what role that
had in to you know, did that manipulate the energy
to kickstart what's going on and everything that Candice Owns

(51:05):
talk about right now, which is absolutely insanity right now,
absolutely insanity. So when we get into the British Empire, right,
I've been telling people, I think something's coming. I don't
know how big it will be, I don't know how
obvious it will be. But if you study the British

(51:26):
Empire and the role in the destruction of China, the
destruction of Russia, the destruction of India, India not so
much having like millions of people die, but like just
extracting wealth, creating these crazy Indians that everyone is like
call center scammers and all that shit, you know, pooping

(51:50):
on the sidewalk, you know, because these are the these
are the people who like study, You brought us yoga
and all that stuff and meditation, and they're like just
shitting on the sidewalk.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
And you know that's because.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
You see an extraction of wealth which causes great poverty
and people start again acting out of acting like fools.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
Their cast system has a lot to do it too.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yeah, well, I mean, I'm sure I wouldn't doubt if
if the British Empire had something to do with that.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
I'm not saying.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
I don't know how long it's been around, but I
wouldn't doubt if they created that.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
That's a great way to control people.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Get these to get this upper class completely buy.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Them off through this fractional reserve banking.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
You control them, and then the Poorges are left to
survive in advance, and then you know again, you get
into Germany. Am I belief of what the Nazis were.
They were the German version of the Bolsheviks. They were like,
they had their they thought they were doing well, but
really they were being used and funded to destroy Germany
from the inside.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Everyone loses their mind.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
They were fighting the Bolshevik I go, yeah, exactly, because
they're both controlled. The Bolsheviks and the Nazis were both
being paid by the Bank of England to destroy their
relative countries. Right, And I think you're seeing that in
America right now. I think they're seeing in America this
progressive left, this Antifa, these woke people. These are the

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modern day Bolsheviks that are voting against their own personal interests.
I don't know if we talked about on here, but
it's like the days of stopping chicks get punch in
the face is coming to an end. I mean, like
you know we were talking about before. It's like, hey, dude,
oh my god, he's hit me.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
How did you vote in the last election? Who did
you vote for? Omandani? Sorry, can't help you.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
I'm not gonna get staffed for someone who voted for
this shit. I'm sorry about that, Ladies. I'd love to
help you. It's in my DNA, my wiry protect women
and children at all costs. But if you voting for this,
you know, fuck around and find out and everyone's gonna
get mad at that.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
But just getting to that point.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
You can't vote for things and then get angry when
you get what you voted for.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Yeah, I mean, you're not going to go down to
the whorehouse and be like white night and be like,
stop slipping with these women. How dare you take her virginity?
I mean, they're whores.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
But it's also like, dude, if we're on a train
and some guys going fucking nuts and they voted the
get like Mandani wants to get rid.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Of the cops. Right, You voted for that, Ladies, You
voted and not the women on this show. Because I'm
pretty sure I know what they would vote for if
they were in the area.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
But the women of New York City just voted a
guy that's consistently on record as he wants to get
rid of.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
The cops Muslim Fabian socialist ideology, which I've been talking
about for years. I mean, we did a whole talk
on the Fabian socialists. I think I came on here
with you and talked about it. That's exactly what Mamdani represents.
And people say, oh, you won't talk about Jews. Then
if you're talking about Muslims, the Jews and the Rabbis
call Islam the room of Judaism.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
I'm serious.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
Like so, they don't have a problem with Islam coming
and destroying. They don't want it in Israel, but they
don't like you know, That's why they created humas that.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
They don't have a problem with. In fact, they cheered
on Jelani when he came to New York.

Speaker 4 (55:15):
You saw that, right, Like so when Asad was toppled
by Jilani, who was the previous like al Nusra guy
at the al Qaeda guy, he just went to New
York and he was welcomed by the Jews in New York.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
So the isis al Qaeda guy is brought to New York.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
Thank you for doing the CIA, And then and Masad
bidding and destroying Asad and toppling Syria and destroying much
of Christian churches and making it basically into you know,
al Qaeda.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Now.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
So it's like so obvious once you see this that
radical Islam is also utilized by the Israeli state.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
They talk about it openly.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
I mean, you saw the interview with the former head
of Massade where he's like, no, we're not going to
help people who are you know, part of a Shia
Islam or whatever, but we will help isis Sure.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
It's actually absolutely insanity. It's absolutely insanity. But do you
see that game plan being installed in America?

Speaker 4 (56:19):
What we see this is the Color Revolution, right, So
like our Color Revolution began I think with like black
Lives Matter and that kind of stuff, same strategy as
Bolshvik revolution. I just had an intelligence expert, woman doctor
Olga Ravasi on she's good friends with the chron McGregor.
We just had an hour long podcast that I put
up on my channel where we talked about how the

(56:40):
CIA really mastered this strategy of utilizing al Qaeda and
kind of crafting together with Marxism and organized crime was
called the KLA the Coast of a Liberation Army, which
was a al Qaeda trained, CIA created thing to destroy
Serbia coast of et cetera, back under Clinton. And so
she's an expert in all that. She's also a Middle

(57:01):
Eastern expert. And we were talking about how this is done.
It's done. It's like a technique that's scientifically like perfected.
So absolutely, I mean, they know how to craft and
create these controlled dialectical groups. And I said, do you
think this is the same, you know, color revolution strategy
that they're doing in America with Black Lives Matter and

(57:23):
all that.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
She said, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
What they do is they study define the tension points.
So for example, in the Ukraine, the tension point was
between the sort of old Nazi ideology versus the Russian.
So you can split Ukraine down the middle versus anti
and pro Russia. If in America, what's the classic issue
in America slavery race issues, So you split America down

(57:47):
the racial divide, so you just hype up the already
existing tensions in the regions. Whatever those tensions might be.
So that obviously where everyone knows the tensions in the
least right, So, yeah, that's what they're doing, and then
it is partly a Bolshevik strategy.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Jackson Hinkle did a great interview and he interviewed a
guy saying that basically in Nigeria they're running this game
plan again. They are funding Islamic Jahattist. Locals have seen
US helicopters dropping off supplies to this Muslim movement and
they're blowing it up.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
It's wagged a dog.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
So everyone goes, oh, they're killing Christians, which I'm against
because I'm Christian.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
I'm against that. But what's happening over there isn't what
we're being told. It's the same thing.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
It was weapons of mass destruction because you know what
they found in their natural resources?

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Yeah remember you remember?

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Yes? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Did?

Speaker 4 (58:44):
I was at college and that that's that show was everywhere,
posters all over the campus. I remember ripping them down
and it was being promoted by Campus Crusade, which was
in Calvary Chapel, evangelical thing that's actually tied into the
Pentagon Milton indotional Complex. Longtime support of Campus Crusade that
goes back to con men like Chuck Smith Hal Lindsay

(59:06):
who wrote like Great Planet Earth, So all that like
evangelical end time stuff, that's actually just American soft power
for Israeli operations and foreign policy. So Israel will fund
and put money into those goobers right to push all
you got to support Israel, cools Dog and may Dog,
is China and Russia.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
They're going to destroy Israel.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
All that is is like just pure propaganda and all
the evangelical and time stuff, the dispensationals of Christian Zionism,
that's all part of that. And they were pushing that
back at the Cony twenty twelve. Time for Africam to
go in and take you know, precious metals and rare
earth minerals and resources in certain areas of Africa that

(59:48):
they hadn't got to yet, under the cover of We're
going to save the Christians and the evangelical Christians from
Joseph Coney, this made up warlord that nobody had even
seen for years.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
That is in credible.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
And then that guy took basalts or was just went
on a bender.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Dude. Oh you remember that guy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
Yeah, that Chasting guy who like got all tripped out
and like stripped naked out in California.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
It was on the corner in San Diego.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Just he looked like one of those uh those used
car balloom guys. He was just in the middle of
the street just doing some buck naked and like the
coney thing died right there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Did he make money?

Speaker 6 (01:00:27):
Did he keep any of it?

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
I don't know, because what was it? What did he sell?
It was like T shirts or something, right, what was it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
I mean, yeah, I was looking up that video on
my livestream a couple days ago and it's had it
had one hundred and ten million views. They were promoting
the shit out of that video, dude. That was like
super propaganda. I remember Alex was going crazy over it
at the time, and I read affleeam Ingdall's book that
was exposing a lot of that stuff at that time too,
twenty twelve, twenty thirteen fourteen. So to me, that's kind

(01:00:55):
of when everything clicked with like, oh wait a minute,
moral majority evangelicalism. That's also a giant Pentagon bullshit thing
that utilized the missionaries in these other countries. That's part
of espionage, et cetera. So a lot of that collapsed
in my mind around that time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
It's literally you said earlier, everything's faking gay. Yeah, exactly,
it's just faking gay.

Speaker 5 (01:01:16):
I was looking at exposed by the way, from New York.
It's only men, men and women fifty to fifty on
on Mondani. It was the only the only major demographic
that that Cuomo scraped was white men. That was it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
But they were breaking down like the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Different that's what I'm looking at groups, and like white
women were the biggest. Yeah, but white women's like eighteen
to twenty nine.

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
It's fifty to fifty men and women. Now, there were
fewer male voters by a significant percentage, But the only
demographic that Cuomo won was forty six percent to forty
five percent white men by one point. He won white man.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Now do you think Cuomo was brought into hurt Curtis
or Hurt Curtis never won.

Speaker 5 (01:01:57):
No, he was brought in because he couldn't win. Yeah,
people were sick of him.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Was that like a dead horse candidate? What is that
what they call?

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
So they brought him in to push everybody the Mandani.

Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
I mean, there's it's the it's the old you know,
the South Park, but the what is it the the
third sandwich? And what is it? The god? What it's
you know, the two joys there. It's one's a third
sandwich and the other is some kind of other male. No, No,
it's like a what is it? It's like a it's

(01:02:31):
a douche, a giant dude. A third sandwich and a
giant douche.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
That's what they had to choose from them, and they
chose the third sandwich.

Speaker 6 (01:02:40):
That's better than do sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
So you're saying it wasn't mostly female.

Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
No, isn't even so I should retract by numbers.

Speaker 6 (01:02:47):
It was.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
There were more females, but percentage wise of the male voters,
Yeah it was.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
It was okay, I under sandwiches.

Speaker 6 (01:02:54):
Do they have the numbers for the top fifty as well?

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Oh yeah? It was like slaughter.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Oh yeah, this is the problem with the internet. Lying
is acceptable. So lying about stuff. Someone said that people
thought profity was about impeaching Trump. I don't know if
that's real, but I know what was real was the
major push behind that was Texas ree district.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
So they jerry manders.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
So they're like, if they're gonna do that, we gotta
do that. And even though we're gonna give it to
the people that burnt down La and Paradise and all
that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Again, the theory of hate is so much more powerful
to rich kids than anything else. And if you just
get punched in the face, it's a bad day. It's
just a bad day. Ah, just unlucky, dude. I got
mugged at a gas pump pumping seven dollars gas.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Just unlucky. Just that day was a bad day.

Speaker 6 (01:03:59):
Or how about Francisco when they tell you don't leave
stuff in your car because they might break into it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
What the fuck? Yeah, you should have known, man, You
shouldn't have.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Let your fault dude, because racism, you know, it's like
it's like it's so fucking you're.

Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
Back in your back seat when snap benefits are expired.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
You know, it's so fucking crazy, and it's like everywhere
and it's just like, I mean, I would like to
say it has to get worse before it gets better,
but I don't know if on the other side of that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Is better.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Truly, And so for me, it's like how do you
how do you deal with it? Because that's what people
who listen to the show, they're like, well, what do
we do. I'm like, you gotta look within, dude.

Speaker 5 (01:04:39):
Well, I know people, I mean, and you're hearing it
more and more that I think we're headed towards civil war.
I'll be interested to hear what Joan thinks about that.
What do you what do you think? Jan?

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
I mean I covered the propaganda that was in those
movies again. You know, you had to leave the world
behind the Obama produced movie, and then you had Civil
War Alex Carland's movie, and I went back and redid
those this week because you know, it really vibes well
with the Podesta plan, with as we said, the sort

(01:05:08):
of color revolution Bolshevik revolution model, where the propaganda's already
telling you ahead of time, like, yeah, we're planning for
this idea of carving up the country through the racial division,
and you know, I don't The only thing I don't
know is how they'll actually get all the forty million
people that have come here to do anything like physical

(01:05:31):
or confrontational.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
It's I think it's difficult to get those people to fight.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
However, if a lot of these people get here and
there are no more benefits and snap benefits and VT,
then maybe they'll get the civil you know, unrest that
they've been wanting, So it could come through that. It
could come through you know, cartels and gangs that have
sort of you know, set up networks already that are

(01:05:55):
here that we just don't really know about because there's
so many people that they can't keep up with. So
there's a lot of different possibilities. I mean, the economy
is getting just totally trashed, right.

Speaker 5 (01:06:06):
President could have a role in it if he decides
to somehow continue being the president beyond this term.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Uh, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
I mean that people talk about I've heard I've been
hearing that since the Bush are right, like George Bush
is gonna.

Speaker 5 (01:06:21):
George George Bush never played with the idea though, I mean,
to be fair, publicly, Trump loves to tease people, and
you know, like, hey, I don't know. I mean, he
did say, to be fair that the idea of him
running as vice president and then Vance stepping down is
a little too cute for him. He said he wouldn't
do that, but he said he had studied it and
there are ways to do it if he wished to.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
I mean, yeah, it could be.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
I mean, he definitely has the ego to try to
do it, but I mean, I wouldn't be surprised. I
just it's just a thing that I've heard ever since
I was a kid, So I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
After another, by the way, is another one of these
films that fits that narrative. It's about, you know, these
these left wing revolutionaries and is that the Leo dec
the New PTA maybe Paul Thomas Anderson. Yeah, and it's
significantly you know, I mean, it's just loaded with bullshit.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
But yeah, yeah, well I've heard it's bombed though.

Speaker 5 (01:07:11):
It was good, but it was and I think people
kind of took it the wrong way because the revolutionaries
are idiots, like they're dipshits.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Yeah, well the ones here are dipshits.

Speaker 5 (01:07:18):
Yeah, well I know, but people were saying it's kind
of glorifying revolution and the people on the left, but
because they're the protagonists of the film, but they're really
anti heroes. I mean, they're all idiots. So I mean,
so are the government people wish fits.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Well, it's my joke. Everyone's retarded.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
Yeah, and everyone in that film is retarded.

Speaker 6 (01:07:35):
So to ask you, have you guys seen what's going
on on TikTok or like on social media where so
I don't know who it is, but BLM where the
people that don't have EBT are setting up a day
where they got supposed to go to Walmart and like
rate it together at like from six to seven.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
No, I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
There's it's like nothing says sign out more than scheduled unrest.

Speaker 5 (01:07:57):
Yes, yeah, public, public, it's come.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Here from six to seven and pick something that burn.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Down AstroTurf to the max.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Dude, it's so fucking nuts.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Let me ask you something then, I want to get
in your book before we wrap up. What is socialism
to you? We hear this term thrown around a lot,
you know, we go, well, where does socialism work? People
always go, oh, it's it works in certain European countries
that happen to be all white. But that's doesn't matter

(01:08:32):
at all. But what does socialism mean to you? Because,
you know, because the whole theory is like, you know,
taking over the means of production all this stuff, and like,
I'm a capitalist, but right now we're not in a
capitalist society. We're in a corporate socialist society that's being

(01:08:52):
told it's being branded as capitalism. I don't know, do
you what is socialism to you? And do you think
you could ever create a system that works? Nothing's going
work perfectly, but works better when you have psychopaths, insanely smart,

(01:09:14):
beyond rich, you like all these groups of people that
can always manipulate the system. Do you do you think
it's possible? So what is socialism and do you think
the idealistic system is possible with human nature?

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
So socialism has always been and will always be a
tool of very wealthy people to extract and transfer wealth.
That's a it's a it's a control mechanism that utilizes
the principles of fairness, equality, things that everybody thinks sound good,

(01:09:53):
But it's a swindle because ultimately, as the famous historian
Oswald Spangler said, there is no socialist movement that has
not been funded and promoted by massive capital. And that
right there, I think caused you to pause and think, well,
why would really rich people push the position that supposedly

(01:10:14):
is the opposite of their position? And if you understand
the actual origins, going back to Marx and Engles and
even before them, going back to that and Bishop, the
original modern communists and the Jacobins and their philosophy of
the French Revolution. Ultimately, it is an atheistic philosophy that
is nihilistic and anti human, and it also kind of

(01:10:36):
had there's layers and levels to it. So there's like
this layer of, oh, well, we'll make it fair and
everybody will have sort of an equal share of the
pie or whatever, and then you get deeper into it
and it's you know, satanic banking elites that want to
depopulate people. So at the end of the day, is
it is a Satanic system. Was himself fascinated with Satan.

(01:11:02):
He has poems that he wrote to Satan. There's a
great book on this called Marx and Satan by Richard Vernbrand.
So that's ultimately what it is. And it's always been
that it's a tool and a technique for destroying cultures
that very wealthy elite people utilize when necessary.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
And so let's just for a second, go what do
the rich kids think socialism has.

Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
That's a good question.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
What do you think they think it is.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
A lot of the children of the elite, wealthy families.
For example, in the Rockefeller's biography, there's a great chapter
on Abby Rockefeller, who created Cell sixteen, which was the
radical feminist you know, third wave are basically terrorist feminists,
believe it or not, out of Chicago University, and she

(01:11:57):
put millions of dollars into third wave feminism and whatnot.
And when she talks about what made her socialist or
why she's into it, it's because she supposedly felt guilt
and she was privileged and all this nonsense.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
But it's not true.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
I don't actually think that really cunning elites have this guilt.
I think that they're psychopathic and they see it as
a pragmatic tool.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
I mean, maybe in Abbey's.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
Case, she really did have something messed up because she
seemed to hate her own femininity. She wanted to kind
of be like a man. She wasn't trans, but she
was one of those sort of butch lesbian types. So
you know, she could have been abused. A lot of
these people in these elite families are all messed up,
and you know, the parents abused them, so that's why
they have such a messed up.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
You know, worldview.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
But I think probably a lot of the rich elite kids,
I mean some of them, Like there used to be
in an article that was really it's hard to find now,
but it was in Rolling Stone and it was the
children of the Duke family. I think it's Duke Energy,
which is a big, mega, you know, a billion dollar thing.
They were raised abused as Satanists, so they I think
would say, yeah, we support all this stuff because you know,

(01:13:17):
fuck the public and fuck the rest of you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
You should all die because we deserve to rule.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
So they're really cunning, psychopathic eliite literally have a middle
finger to everybody, and they think it's funny to fuck
with everybody because they're evil. But I think there are
some elites that you know, there was one of the
Rothschild's heirs that supposedly hung themselves, so that a lot
of these people are also kind of you know, suicidal
because they've been abused. And then there's probably a segment

(01:13:45):
that are you know, they maybe they actually do believe socialism.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Possibly maybe Riby rock Filler did, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:13:55):
You know, an interesting just this is so little side
note that Duke University was named after that family and
was originally called Trinity and you know, because of the
Holy Trinity, and they renamed it after themselves. Kind of
little historically.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
Yeah, if you go to I've been to university campus
and if you go to their chapel. It's like esoteric,
occultic stuff in there. It's not that Christianity.

Speaker 5 (01:14:18):
Yeah, I went to you and see I I was
at Duke all time, and yeah, it's it's creepy.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
I remember there being something and they're.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Like, that's why, because they're dark arts literally exactly literally
dark arts.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
Somebody should find that Rolling Stone interview with the children
of the Duke family where they talk about being raised
and used and being taught like literal satan like they
were into Satanism. Yeah, explicitly Rolling Stone. I remember when
I heard that, I didn't believe it. Somebody mentioned I
was like, that doesn't that sounds like extreme? Sure enough,

(01:14:51):
I went and found the old Rolling Stone article they
talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Jeez, Louise, let's get into your book real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
Tell us about it, Like, what are some of the
things you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
You added to your last books?

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
And you know you have a thousand pages on this subject,
so I'm sure we have some amazing new tidbits and
facts that I think people are going to be excited
to read about.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:15:20):
So basically the publisher was like, hey, let's do a
part three. We might as well complete the trilogy. You know,
I think Part two came out back in twenty nineteen
or eighteen, so it was about it's almost a ten
year sort of a project of collecting all these essays
together and then kind of, you know, I roll a
lot of them I rewrote here. So I would say

(01:15:41):
probably maybe fifty to sixty percent of this book is
brand new, and everything else got rewritten. But there's a
lot of things that I never got to in part
one and two. So I didn't get to like any
of the big Marvel stuff, the propaganda's and the Marvel movies.
I didn't get to Christopher Nolan film, so it was
a bunch of Christopher Nolan I wanted to do. And
then I didn't really hit a lot of the feminist propaganda,

(01:16:05):
slag queen stuff that Hollywood has been pushing hard. So
I threw in about sixty pages of that. Everything from
Mary Poppins to Mad Max Urios, all that stuff is
promoting a lot of like feminist, you know, bad bitch stuff,
Disney's Cruella wonder Woman. I mean, you don't think about

(01:16:26):
that stuff being about that, But like Barbie, so I
put Barbie in there, and in the next section is
a lot of independent B movies. There's a lot of
actually Crowleyan themes, satanic themes, and a lot of these
B movies that we don't notice. And then I did
a whole section on Hollywood horror trauma. You know True
Detective Season one that was all about a real evangelical

(01:16:48):
church that was mind controlling human trafficking, you know, satanic
ritual abuse, that was a real thing going on. So
I did a deep dive analysis of True Detective seasons
one and two, a lot of classics that people wanted
me to do. Donnie Darko Prisoners, another ritual abuse film.

(01:17:08):
Did in another section on MK ultra movies that are overlooked,
like Brian Opalma's The Fury, Stephen King, Firestarter, Uh, Dakota Fanning,
Hide and Seek with Robert de Niro, a lot of
weird stuff going on in that movie, Wickerman, Hereditary, Midsommer,
h David Fincher's The Game, Fight Club, Tom Breus.

Speaker 5 (01:17:31):
The Game Too is an underrated film.

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
Yeah, put the Game in there, which is weird because
it's like, why did I not do the Game, you know,
all these years, because it's exactly what we talk about
in in these in you know, the reality behind the movies,
so it's like, I should have done the game a
long time ago. But yeah, the Saints, all of the
Mission Impossible films, Hollywood Spies, all the different spots. We've

(01:17:53):
talked about that a lot in here. I won't rehearse
all that, but people don't know about all these famous
A listers that were spot over the years. So I
had to throw that in there. And then we got
into Antichrist and Apocalypse because I had never really done
a good deep dive on you know, Rosemary's Baby and
John Carpenter's Apocalypse films, stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Did you know. By the way, it's a little fascinating
TD bit.

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
Remember in the Rock right with Sean Connery Nick Cage,
when he's got the green.

Speaker 5 (01:18:24):
Balls, it's like a nerve gas, right, or something like.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
Yeah, a nerve gas.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
So it turns out this is from actual British intelligence historians,
not from a conspiracy text that the chemical weapons story
that came out that Saddam had chemical weapons, the fake
intelligence asset that made this up. They literally made it

(01:18:49):
up from the Nick Cage movie what.

Speaker 5 (01:18:52):
I'd heard that, Yeah, it fits your thing to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Nick. Yeah, dude, that's the greatest bit of all time.
Nick Cage warns us about what they're doing. I mean, dude,
he said, time traveling shaman.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
I've tried to do exactly right.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
Saddama saying was accused of possessing, uh, you know weapons
of mass destruction that you know, gas balls of green
green balls of gas death.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
Whatever. Turns out this was.

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
All pushed by a made up story from British intelligence
that they literally cribbed from the rock. So also the
Foyer documents, things that came out with regarding like ben
Afflex relationship to the CIA, like we know we know
now that Argo was literally made in consultation with the
CIA because it's official Afflex basically just a CIA operative.

(01:19:42):
A lot of these what is now past a It's
like this was you know, if you talked about this
ten fifteen years ago, you know, people said you were schitzo.
But the Exorcists people don't know the Extorcist is actually
written by the CIA.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
It's a CIA script.

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
What in fact, what's the William Peter Bladie he did
psyops in Vietnam for the CIA.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Wow, and then what is the psyop that they're pushing
with that?

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
So this same place during the Cold War, and the
idea was if you.

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
Watch go back and watch the Exercist, you'll notice, like,
why are these like student You have communist socialist student
protests going on in the movie. And so even within
the film, it's like they're concerned about the possibility of
people leaving religion, so why not scare the shit out
of them with exorcism? Yeah, And so it turns and

(01:20:37):
I'm not an atheist, I believe it like farther out
of religion. Say, what does that push them farther out
of religion? They're like, look at these crazy exorcisms. Well,
the idea is to scare the shit out of people,
to remind them of the devil's real and go back
to church so that they don't turn to communism and atheism.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Ah.

Speaker 4 (01:20:57):
For example, some of the work carried out by the
Psychological Warfare Bureau, orchestrated by people likely of Bladdie and
Tom Dooley, included staging Marion apparitions in Vietnam to support
the anti communist ideology. So extensive campaigns were carried out

(01:21:21):
by the Catholic Relief Services in America's psychological warfare teams
to drive peasants south of the de militarized zone by
telling them, quote, the Virgin Mary has departed from the North,
Jesus and Mary want you to go south. I mean
that's literally what the CIA did in the Cold War
in the in.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
The that is.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
I mean crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
I think when people say everything's faking gay, they really
don't understand how deep that statement really is.

Speaker 3 (01:21:56):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
Ed Lansdale, for example, he had a p to stage
a second Coming in regard to Cuba, to convince Cubans
to return to Catholicism and not accept atheistic communism. Now
that doesn't make communists good. It's just like these people
have no principles whatsoever, like they'll build.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
We'll do any Why why do they hate communism? I
mean obviously we know communism is a failed economic policy.

Speaker 5 (01:22:22):
But why heads on spikes their heads. I mean, that's
how it ends up.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
If there's so the elites end up, they think they
die at the end.

Speaker 5 (01:22:31):
I mean it happened in Russia.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
Yeah, I mean that's true. I mean that's incredible, dude,
what a sane episode. Dude.

Speaker 5 (01:22:39):
Oh and I found okay, so that Rolling this is
incredibly interesting that you brought that Rolling Stone article up.
So it's called it, correct me if.

Speaker 4 (01:22:47):
It the poorest Ridge Kids and the World Kids in
the World.

Speaker 5 (01:22:49):
Yeah, it was in the October twelve, twenty thirteen. I mean,
I'm sorry August twelve, twenty thirteen issue.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
If I'm do a rolling Stone and it talks about
the Satanic stuff, is still there.

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
I'm looking at it right now.

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
Wait if you go you go to if you type
in porest Rich Kids in the World, the Duke Airrs,
and it talks about they talk about their stepmother and
encouraging them to read Satanic texts, et cetera. I think
it even talks about, like, you know, other things I
can't mention. Yeah, if you control f Satan, it'll come

(01:23:21):
up that they were taught, you know, to read.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
Satanic text and so forth. I didn't think the article
was still available. That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:23:28):
Well, I think it must not have been temporarily because
all the stories I found that linked to it said
it's not available online like that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
It was gone for a long time. It must have,
because I used to try to find this article. It
was from twenty thirteen.

Speaker 6 (01:23:39):
How many things are gone from the Internet that we
don't know about that they deleted?

Speaker 5 (01:23:43):
Where they go before they see this.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
Oh yeah, totally.

Speaker 4 (01:23:46):
Lot of a lot of articles and stories about satanic
ritual abuse have been deleted and memory hold.

Speaker 5 (01:23:53):
Funny how that works? Right? Oh wow? You know I
will say j two. There's a film about Nurremberg coming out,
a major aware about whaterg Nermerg trucks where Goring is
played by Russell Crowe. It's coming out this week, actually
comes out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
More propaganda, Yeah, more propaganda, guys. More trying to fucking
convince you this thing is worse than it you know.

Speaker 5 (01:24:21):
It was witable. I'll see it tomorrow and let you
guys know you love you love.

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
If you want signed copies of Circle with Three, you
can get them at Jason Ols's Nott coming.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
The show, buy the book.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
Dude, you just blew my mind. Jay, thank you so
much for working with us. Sorry we started a little late.
Appreciate it one more time. Tell them where they can
find you.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
Yeah, you can find me on Twitter, j Diary. You
can find me on YouTube, Jay Diary. You can find
me writing Sam Hide show we've done I think one
full season of episodes are all pretty pretty killer, pretty
wild stuff, especially the first one. Dear Elon you know
when Mega viral at twenty twenty five million views, I
think or Russians on Twitter.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
So check that out at Samhiks.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Tickets due, do you ever go out in the road
with them?

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
I'd like to, but uh, you know, if we do
the thing in January, maybe I can come to comedy
dojo and sort of dude perfect, How perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
New Jersey are you?

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
How far away from New Jersey are you?

Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:25:21):
There might be something happening in New Jersey in January.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, you know you've
heard about it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
So if I'm up that way, I wouldn't mind trying
to make my way into.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
The comedy d I'm excited. This will be great. It's
a great I mean, I can't wait to tell people.
We're just waiting for contract teas, right.

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
Right, I mean we don't know, but I'm just saying,
if something happens in January, maybe, but yeah, like I'd
like to do more of that. I love doing the
live events, love doing impressions and all that. But anyway,
so yeah, thank you for having me. You can find
me also on the Alice Jones Show, usually on Friday's
fourth hour, and find me on exit Instagram under my name.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
All Right, buddy, you're the best. Let's break down the episode.
Oh my god, guys, Jay Dyer came dropped Hammers. What
do you guys think?

Speaker 6 (01:26:11):
Dangerous?

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Dangerous, dangerous, dangerous, But man, amazing, amazing, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
I love it. I was blown away. Dude, every book
he had I bought everything he mentioned. I bought it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:30):
I love that he thinks it's a good idea to
try to get us to read that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
I want to read something King. I bought that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
The guy that the episode that just dropped, he mentioned
King Killing thirty three, I bought that. Bro it is
it's only like a paper. It's like, I don't even
know how to describe it. It's like a leaflet. It's
a pamp, it's a it's about it's the shortest pamphlet
ever of a book.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
The bus down.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
You want, you sit down and you're done with the
book you read.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
No, dude, it's dense, like it's dense discussion.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
Bro on shit. Nine population would have no clue what
they're talking about. You have to go deep, deep and
read it over and over and over again.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
It's really fucking nuts. It's nuts, but so I like
to grab these books. I'm trying to read more.

Speaker 6 (01:27:25):
Like not that I've tried, but is it like everyone
says that Winnie Webs books are dances something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
Have you even opened that?

Speaker 6 (01:27:32):
Because I know you bought it, I know you got it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Yeah, I got it in my room. I haven't opened
it up yet. I just have a feeling, whinny. What's
dense about it? Is the info? Yeah, I'm talking dense.
I'm talking words like it's like it's not a natural
conversation that you'll ever hear in your life. It's like
two three old. Yeah, but it's like really dense. I'm

(01:27:56):
loving it. Of course, Dana loves opening to see what
book I'm getting, and she just pray it doesn't have
the word Hitler in it, which is gonna suck for
her when I.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
Buy that Hitler book. Why you gotta get mar Hitler books.
I'm like, it's just an interesting topic, man. So it is.

Speaker 5 (01:28:15):
It's endlessly fascinating. The Second World Warren Hitler in the Rise,
and it's.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
So crazy because it's like once something happens, it's like
if something happens where that someone just barges through that door, we.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
Will all have a version of that. Yes, that will
be the most.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Real version, we believe, and it won't be the same version, right,
and over time as it gets told, that version will change.
It's telephone right by the end, it's always like a
black guy with a knife.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
That's how it always ends, right, right, that's how it
fuck it asks.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
But it's like it's a really interesting topic because it's
like most people just want to live their lives.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
Yes, but there is a.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
Psychopath class that is constantly trying to kill all of us.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
All the time.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Okay there, and it's like it it's so deep in
how they operate and it's so weird because like all
they want is more money, and it's like, but you
have all the money.

Speaker 5 (01:29:29):
Yeah, I do think it's really about money, like only about.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
No, I think it's about death and destruction and figure
out ways to to to ship death and destruction to
different parts.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
Of the of the world.

Speaker 5 (01:29:43):
Yeah, it's like it's a game.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
It's a game. It's a dark, dark game.

Speaker 5 (01:29:47):
You know. It's funny you mentioned too with the Second
World War. I mean there's ship that is in the
official histories that still doesn't make sense. Like, so Hitler's
top guy like his best was Rudolph Hess and he's
a he's a weird dude, like he's weird. But he
was with him, and they were in jail together, they
went through the early they.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
Were in they were in Travistock together.

Speaker 5 (01:30:10):
Yeah, yeah, Tavistock. If you believe that, Yeah yeah, I
believe that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:30:14):
I mean there's some rumors about that painting being forged whatever, okay, Johnny,
but any but irrelevant to the point that I'm gonna make.
And then in the middle of everything, before the war
is even properly like under way, Rudolph Hess gets he
does some training, gets in a plane and goes flies
to England on his own and crashes in a field,

(01:30:37):
claiming that he had made some arrangements to go make
peace with England. And and then the English are all like, dude,
I don't know what you're talking about, bro, And they
put him in jail and interrogate him. No body season
for years, and he's the last one to die. They
never let him out of jail. He dies under suspicious
circumstances in like the late seventies early eighties, hanged the

(01:30:59):
guy who could barely like he's like they show him
when there's pictures of him like right before he died,
and uh, you know, I mean he's clearly too old
to get up and like hang yourself. And they were
worried that he was going to talk about possibly this.
This is one of the theories about what happened to him,
about why he flew to England. Uh, because I mean
it's the weirdest one of the weirdest things.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
About the wars.

Speaker 5 (01:31:23):
Was one of the top Nazis and just gets in
a plane and flies to England on his own during
the war, uh too. And then he he and he
he has a story. You know, he was there to
talk with members of the royal the royals, uh, to
negotiate peace. And you're telling me he does that without
the English like saying, hey, dude, we want to We're

(01:31:44):
trying to wrap this shit up, you know. And I
think it was like forty one or something. So he
was sidelined for the rest of the war. And this
was Hitler's number one guy. And Hitler of course said
he felt betrayed and denied it all. But it's just
so it's so strange, and that's in the official history.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
If you're England and you want Hitler to rise, and
you want Hitler to destroy Germany to give to give
us Israel.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
Why do you want has to arrive?

Speaker 5 (01:32:11):
Doesn't make any sense. Yeah, it sounds. I've always suspected
that there were factions in the British government that wanted
it to happen and they lost, you know, they wanted
to make peace at that point and they lost.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
Ah, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
I'm sure there's people that are like, what the fuck
are we doing? And then there's the cycle paths for
the Seaglers society who are like, oh, dude, scott happened,
It's gotta happened. I mean when the Scottish Freemasons were
like hugely behind the formation of Israel.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Yeah, that's the whole thing.

Speaker 5 (01:32:43):
And that prison he was in Spandaut prison they after
the war. The way they agreed to do it is
there would be different wardens and different guards. They would
alternate between the Allied countries and that went on until
the seventies. He was the last guy there and they
had the Russians, the Soviets, the French, they would each
go on like change.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
He was in prison when he died.

Speaker 5 (01:33:02):
Yeah, I'm saying he was in spending. He was the
last guy still in prison at ninety years old or
whatever the hell. He was the only one there one
Nazie a whole prison for one not that's how big
the secrets that fucking guy had.

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
Work at the end book on it that I can buy,
not read.

Speaker 5 (01:33:19):
I'm sure there is, but yeah, I mean it's to
me that's the most compelling story of the war. And
they say he's crazy, you know, they killed him. They
probably want.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
To shut it down. Can we end this guy? Can
we shut this down? Well?

Speaker 5 (01:33:33):
Also, yeah, because you know they're spending probably millions of
dollars to keep this prison going and rotating in these guards,
you know. And he would say, there's talk about how
he hated when the Russians were coming in because they
were stricter with because the Russians. If anybody has a
real gripes with the Germans, it's the Russians. I mean
they were harder on the Russians than anybody. And and

(01:33:54):
they were always like rougher on him towards the end,
even towards the end, you know, he would get less
food from them, and they'd make him go to bed
early and stuff like that. It's just crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
Trying to bring peace and they just punish you for
the rest of your life.

Speaker 5 (01:34:08):
Yeah, and even the other.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Now, before the war, it was like forty one.

Speaker 5 (01:34:13):
I think it was. Let me see. Okay, so his
flight he died, and I'm sorry it was even later
than I said. He died in eighty seven, so that
prison was on until eighty seven. Dude, I was alive
in that prison.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
Oh my god, were you even born yet?

Speaker 5 (01:34:26):
Yeah, it was, let's see, it was. I think it
was forty one. Let me see. Hold on, I'll just
read the account.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
From eighty seven. I was still in school. I was
probably watching Chips and.

Speaker 5 (01:34:40):
Fucking Attempted Peace Mission as the war strokes. That was
a great show. I used to watch it in syndication.
As the war progressed, Hitler's attention became focused on foreign affairs.
Let's see. On August thirty first, nineteen forty, has met
with Carl househol who told Hess that he believed King

(01:35:02):
George the sixth was opposed to Churchill and would dismiss
him and send him to Canada. At the first opportunity
Househoftware spoke to Uh spoke of his belief that it
was possible to make contact with the king, and so
this is the purported reason that he flew there. Hess
wrote a letter to his wife on the fourth of
November nineteen forty. Uh, and that was and then he began.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
I hate about that shit. Yeah, is all these guys
put their family in such alter They fucked their family.
They fucked their family.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
The only guy, the only family out of.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
Fuck in the country before you do that shit. It's
like that Russian doctor who got told everybody about the
Russians doing steroids. He just abandoned his family. It's crazy, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
Oh, it's the most.

Speaker 5 (01:35:46):
The only honorable guy was Rommel. Like they came Rammel
had some probably not even firm connections with the plot
to kill Hitler, and they came to him and said, hey, dude,
you can go have a little trial. You can go
appeal to Hitler to directly, or we'll just take you out,
kill you and then your family will be guaranteed to
be protected, no show trial or anything. And he shows

(01:36:07):
that and like protected his whole family. He had a
hero's funeral and everything. Uh, he's like one of the
few guys.

Speaker 6 (01:36:14):
Think you're gonna win, Like in your eyes, I get
what you mean like why, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
But you have to go if it if this doesn't
go well, and it's possible.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
Oh yeah, of course, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
Like like if my family's fucked.

Speaker 5 (01:36:31):
So he begins training on this special modified plane real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
What was Homeland?

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
You remember Homeland, the TV show how that guy tried
to do all this Yeah, yeah, and then his family
was just fucked.

Speaker 5 (01:36:45):
Well he was brainwashing, I remember, because he had been
captured and tortured. Theywashed him. He was like an MK
ultra like kind of but the other side doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (01:36:53):
Yeah, so he he was he learned from this chief
test pilot on this special plane how to fly. They
add had some extra fuel tanks on there. And then he,
uh he checked the weather reports and on the tenth
of May nineteen forty one, he departed from an airfield
in Germany and uh yeah, flew just flew across landed
well kind of, he didn't land very well, you know,

(01:37:16):
it was a little bit of a wreck. But yeah,
they I mean there's talk of the you know in
in Scotland, the radar picking him up and be like
who the fuck is like what is this? You know,
I mean, it was just every no It's one of
the most inexplicable, bizarre things ever to happen in history,
and I love reading about it. It's one of my
favorite things.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
No, Like, dude, when you got millions of people watching
and you get like, let's say, one hundred negative comments,
that's still pretty fucking good. Russell Krow, Yeah, I'm doing
I'm doing this movie. Johnny's gonna watch. It's about the
Nuremberg Trials. You know, it's totally gonna be Yeah, he
sure's there.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
Yeah, it's totally gonna be accurate.

Speaker 5 (01:37:53):
Well, it's it's more about Gourring, Herman Goring and kind
of his relationship with because he thought he was like
outsmarting all the guards and stuff and he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
Oh he died, all right,

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