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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The following is a presentation of FCB Faith.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
This is Keeping America First with Bishop Chawn Teacoats and
Reverend Jeff Jamison on FCB Faith.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Welcome to Keeping America First.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
And today we have a great guy, none other than
the sheriff of the Rain County Sheriff Department, and that
is none other than mister Jack Hall. Jack, glad to
have you with us this morning. How are you doing
on this cold, wintry day, Jeff, doing.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Great is trying to handle everything, coordinate everything over the county.
As you say, with the cold weather and the winter
that we've experienced over the.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Last couple of weeks, it's been a challenge.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
But we work with all of our community partners, our
township trustees, our mayors, our commissioners, are road superintendent cruise
trying to keep everybody safe, get everybody to work, and
get commerce moving in on the roadways.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
And making sure that we do it in the safest manner.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
You've actually been sheriff now for just a little over
a year, is that correct.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
That's over a area.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Okay, I know you've been doing. You've been really busy.
We've seen you on the on the news so many
different things taking place. Tell us a little bit about
your accomplishments. You ran as a spellar candidate and promised
to do a lot of things. Tell us a little
bit of what you've accomplished it thus fart well.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Many of the things that we're most proud of is
a lot of our programs that were intended to build
trust in the community and especially with special needs communities.
What we will be announcing shortly.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Which is in conjunction with what we call the Stepping
Up program across the state of Ohio, the Raine County
is re engaging into that program to be able to
have law enforcement assist greatly with special needs populations, the
autism community, communities that involve mental health needs. And one
of the things that we promised we would do in
the campaign is that there was an organization called the
(02:05):
Crew and that was the community Resource Unit.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
With that, we have a new deputy that is going
to be well.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Actually he's a deputy has been with the agency for
three decades.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Almost now, and that he is a community teacher in.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Regards to response to crisis intervention training and in regards
to working with our local outreach programs such as reveon Health.
What was formerly known as the Dorm Center, and so
therefore we're combining road patrol operations with one of our
correction staff personnel too that will work very closely in
the community and working with our local police departments that
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when there's a crisis involving somebody that could be on
the spectrum or could be receiving special needs to the
county or subtless abuse issues, which a lot of those
issues we see in the jail on a regular basis,
and that's why we have corrections involved in that too.
Those will be specially trained deputy that will be able
to respond to those situations and an attempt to de escalate,
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lower the temperature down as to what's going on, and
hopefully turn those calls over to us so we can
get them into the appropriate social services that with rebon
and their Community Reception Center which is newly built in Lorraine,
and in addition to that, make sure that they have
those special needs that we are not just automatically bringing
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them to the jail, which we do now.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
And the Lorraine County Jail is one of the.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Largest mental health facilities providing that care and also one
of the largest substance abuse communities and care facilities in
northeast Ohio. So we want to make sure that that
incarceration is not always necessary. We have violent felons, fugitives,
people that need to be incarcerated and under the watch
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of our skillful pressions officers, and right now we have
an imbalance in our jail of providing more for subs,
abuse and mental health services that thankfully due to Reveon
and the new community reception center that was built, we
can get those subjects into that. In addition, the cru
is assigned to our SWAT team, and our swat.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Team a lot of these times that we will get
calls of.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Somebody that is acting very violently and that person may
have a mental health history as well too, So before
we engage in any type of excessive force or unfortunately
sometimes it's deadly force, we want to make sure that
we provide that avenue first to be able to have
a successful outcome, not only for the subject that we're dealing.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
With, but a lot of people don't understand there's a
lot of stress on the officers the deputies when they
have to engage in an.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Excessive or deadly forced situation that we would like to.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Minimize those as well.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
And speaking of the jail, we've engaged in a lot
of programs in the jail. We've been making a lot
of physical improvements to a very old building that we
have in anticipation.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
At some point, very close down the road.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
We may start construction on the new one, but we
still have to accommodate for what we have here, making
us necessary security improvements, and with that, we've actually had
a reduction of assaults on our corrections officers inside the jail,
putting the entire appropriate, appropriate programming in and bringing in
church services again to the jail, which have been very
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widely accepted by the inmates. And we've also created a
clergy program that we initiated which includes the face of
the Jewish faith, the Catholic faith, and the Protestant faith
that those clergy are available to not only our staff
and personnel, also our inmates in the jail, but everybody
in the community. And unfortunately, we had a situation a
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couple of weeks ago in which one of our father
Alex from Sacred Art Church and Lorraine, he's one of
our clergy. He was actually writing with our deputies. We
had a call that we had to respond to which
the person was deceased, and so therefore the family met
the deputies, had to see our clergy was there. They
asked them to perform last rites, and that was a
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service that you always don't have clergy with deputies when
they respond the calls. But we made sure that we
put that program back into place and we were able
to comfort that family in one of the greatest kinds
of needs.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
So a lot of.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Things that we've been able to do that we promised
we would do when.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
We ran for office.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
The biggest thing right now is the biggest disappointment that
we haven't been able to do is the fact is.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
That I wanted to put our budget actually.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Online so people could go to the Sheriff's office website
be able to click on our budget and see every
single transaction which runs through the Sheriff's office and doe
to the software which is being utilized by the Auditor's
office right now, and some backlogs with that, the communication
between the Commissioner's office. It's technologically right now, just something
that we're not going to be able to do for
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probably maybe next.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Year before we get to the budget.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Could you spoke to the issue of officers having a
lot of.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Pressures on them.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Could you kind of talk about that a little bit,
because oftentimes we see, you know, everyone wants the police,
every won't want law enforcement to protect them. But can
you speak to some of the emotional stresses that the
officers experience.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well, especially here at Larrain County Sheriff's Office, even though
that we're finally back up the full staff, you know,
in both corrections in the Roe Drill Division, I believe
since the first time since two thousand and six, the
less deputies that you have working puts a lot more
pressure of those deputies to constantly handle the calls you know,
that are coming in. Before I took office, there'd be
a lot of times we would have three or four
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deputies covering four hundred and ninety five square miles of
Larin County. We've got that up now to eight or
nine deputies plus two supervisors that are now covering that.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
And with that though, going from call to call to call.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And those being intense calls, Jeff, we see many people,
unfortunately at their worst times when we come into their lives.
A lot of times people don't want law enforcement involved
in their life at that particular time. But a neighbor
called somebody called nine one one, there's an assault that's
taking place, domestic situation, mental health situations, and the deputies
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have to deal with that on a regular basis, And
so with that, we also put on staff a contracted
psychologists that we have on staff as well.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Too.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
We have created a peer counseling program within the law
enforcement community that comes to Lorraine County Sheriff's Office that
works with the deputies. And again going back to the
clergy members that we have put on there, those clergy
are riding with our deputies and they.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Are talking about the calls and talking about things that
have happened on those calls.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And even though it's the responsibility of the deputy to
take control of that situation and de escalate it, we
need a little assistance.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
At times too, and making sure that we have the
appropriate mental.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Health outlook and being able to handle with a lot
of the perils that we see on a daily basis.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Tell me a little bit about the peer counseling that
sounds good.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Is that something that's pretty common amongst all of the
departments across the state or national Is that A.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, we'll have groups that are assembled right now we
actually have latched onto the Cayahoga team because Lorraine County
has not had their own peer to peer counselant team
for the first responders in the county, so we're using
the cai Hogan model. We've actually latched onto the Cayhoga
team and anytime that we have a significant situation, even
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just the other week, we had a chase that took
place which started with a aggravated robbery and the kidnapping
and aliria of a Prins truck driver that led our
department to the Ring Police Department, the Ellyria Police Department
and others in a high speed chase which ended in
North Hostead and unfortunately in the death of the suspect
in that case. Although the Illyria officers who were engaged
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in that went to a great effort quickly to make
a very quick decision and they took the life of
that subject because he the subject was placing the lives
of the mother and her children. He took hostage in
North Homestead. Well, Jeff, that's not something we take lately.
So we have the peer support the Kyhuga team that
was called out. Matter of fact, everybody was involved in
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that situation. The peer counseling, the clergy were involved, our
departmental psychologists was involved in that. We offered those services
to all the agencies that were involved in that pursuit
due to the fact is is that you know, no
one wakes up, no police officer wakes up every day
and says, hey, I want to go out and use
my firearm and shoot somebody. It's a last resort that
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we go to, especially in an intense excessive course situation,
and we want to make sure.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
That those deputies and those officers are dealing with the.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Mental health aspect of that appropriately and to make sure
that we retain great qualified people and heroes to the
community to do their job appropriately.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Thank you, Thank you. Sheriff All.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
We're going to take a quick break and we're going
to be right back. We're back with Sheriff Jack Hall. Jack,
could you tell us a little bit about the community
outreach that you're doing and what can we do to
help as well.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Well with that.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
For the first time, we created our own silo within
the Sheriff's office, which was community Outreach because before I
took office, many things were happening and they still are
across the country. In which there's negative views of law
enforcement interactions with the communities. We see that right now,
especially the timeliness of this podcast of what's going on
in Minneapolis with order patrol and immigration and customer enforcements
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and deaths have now occurred at the hand of those
protests and the enforcement efforts that have the community has
endured up there, and one of the things that we
wanted to make sure that we did when we came
on boards, we community created our community outreach unit. That
outject reach union is led by Major aging for us
from our office, and he also has two direct assistants
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that helped him with that. By engaging in community outreach
that we have been out there regularly, the community, the
community gets to see us, the community gets to talk
with us. The sheriff is actually out there doing that.
We joke around the chief deputy. She handles everything inside
the sheriff's office. I handle everything outside the sheriff's office.
But what that does and engaging in that community outreach,
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the coffee with the cops and constantly being out there
creates a sense of that we're human beings.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
People can come up to us, they can talk to us.
Our social media presence with the Lorraine County Sheriff's Office.
And this is actually one of the most amazing things
that we've done in our regards to our community outreach
is directly relating back to if we're not at a
community event, how do they communicate with us and how
do they get in touch with us. Before I took office,
the Loraine County Sheriff's Office with average twenty three thousand
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views a month on Facebook, and there wasn't a lot
of interaction between the community and direct messaging and responding
back to comments on Facebook. If we do good or bad, Jeff,
we allow all the comments, and there's very few parameters
of threats against somebody, certain squear words and things like that.
If it's a negative comment, it still goes, you know,
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out there because you know somebody feels a certain way
because of that.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
But this last weekend during the storm, we had a
major interaction with the community. A matter of fact, the
Central State Weather Facebook notification linked to our page because
we were talking about the potential of the Level three
snow emergency. What we're considered essentral workers, not essential workers
that would be allowed to be out during that snow emergency. So, Jeff,
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we went from twenty three thousand viewers a month before
taking office to last week six point three million now
a month that we have on our viewers of that
so and actually as we ran the metrics, so this
past week we were.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
The second most viewed Facebook page.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Of sheriff offices in the entire country, behind the Lee
County Sheriff's Office in Florida.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
So we're very proud of that outreach.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
We're very proud of the fact that when we can
put these programs together. We had one for the holiday
gift card program that we would see signs of positive
you know, driving positive community interaction. We had a situation
in Lorraine that we had seen a dad who was
loading his two small little girls into the car, and
we turned around and hit the lights and pulled up
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behind him.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
And the natural reaction was like, all right, what did
I do? You know?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
What's going on? Why is there a sheriff's car behind me?
So I had got out and my wife was actually
with me because she's also a deputy in another county,
and so we got out and you just saw the
look on the residence face like here it is, I'm
being harassed. Introduced myself as the sheriff, and we told
him that you know, saw that he was putting his
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girls in the back seat. They were all buckled inappropriately.
So we had a big generosity of the business community
in Lorraine County. We had a lot of twenty five
dollars gas cards that we were allowed to give out,
so we gave him the gas card and his wife
was standing at the front door of the house and
she's like, what's going on. She goes your son terrified, and.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
So he's like, well, hold on.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So the wife comes out, the two little girls come
out of the backseat of the car.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
They want to see us, and Jeff, there's a little
six year old boy.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
He's at the top of the stairs in the front
door and he's crying because he's like, I'm in trouble
or my daddy's getting arrested.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
And so we brought him down and his dad was like, no, no, no,
this is good.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
The sheriff gave us a gift, and so.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
We coaxed them down the stairs.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
He came out, and you know, fortunately then the whole
family right in front of the sheriff's vehicle. Mark Sheriff's
huge and we took a picture of the whole family
and all that. It's just things that when people are
being pulled over by law enforcement, they automatically think it's
a negative experience of what I did. We want to
make sure that a lot of times they walk away
with the fact that it could also be a good
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experience of why we I think?
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Do you share these type things on your Facebook page
and your social media? That's that's awesome. Do you think
what advice could you give to our listeners that are
hearing these things that want to see improved relate and
good relationships with law enforcement in their communities, Because oftentimes
people are complaining and that's what you hear most of
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the time. You don't hear these positive stories. So what
would you tell the people that are sitting there complaining, saying, oh,
we can't stand our police, they're our enemy and that
type thing.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Well, right now, you know, we have a pretty full
calendar going through to your own community outreas events. But
those are the people now that do want us out there.
We have our own ice cream truck now called the
Frosty five zero, which we have taken the many community
events and our deputies and our corrections officers are taking
that to the vehicle out there. The first time we
ever took it out, we took it to one of
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the housing projects here in Lorraine County. We gave out
over three hundred items of ice cream that we're given
out that initial day, making the kids believe, Okay, it's
our right to approach you know, law enforcement on.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
That have us come to your community meetings. We serve you.
You know, even though I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
The sheriff, I have three hundred and twenty two thousand
bosses in Lorraine County and we just want to make.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Sure that we are here to listen to you.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
We know a lot of times not everybody is going
to be happy, you know, every single minute.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
But at least we want to make sure that.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
The community understands that we listen. Now, some people too,
you know, they're mad because an enforcement action was taken
against them, and Cheff that's something we created. That means
so we always can't be the happy police. There's going
to be a lot of times and a lot of
interactions that we have that people break the law and
we are law enforcement and that's what the primary purpose
of our job is. But we want to make sure
that the community asks the questions as to why we engage.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
So maybe those that are listening, maybe women, seniors that
are at home just listening to this and they don't
really get engaged. Maybe the positive thing that they could do,
and just individuals, not just necessarily women, but anyone could
call their shareffs department and suggest that they do some
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of these things that they create initiatives to go out
and engage with the citizens that are somewhat skeptical, skeptical
about what they're doing and just don't have that type
of relationship and watch the news and all the negativity.
Maybe they could turn that around by doing some of
these positive things that you're doing. Like you said, ice cream,
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just ice cream with the cops, ice cream with the sheriffs,
get get your clergy engaged with the sheriffs, and and
things like that. So there's just so much more that
we can do across the state, from county to county
and across our nation right in.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
The sheriff's office too.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
You hit a good point there as well, is due
to the fact is that unlike a police chief in
a local police department who's appointed or tests that position,
the sheriffs are your elected law enforcement representative. I mean
they answered directly to you, and you voted that sheriff.
So when we talk about taking the message of the community,
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especially in a law enforcements, but the community needs to
understand that your sheriff is your elected law enforcement representative
of the people.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
And so there's a lot of things that sometimes.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
A police department can't do because they're bound by the
restrictions of their city council, their mayor things like that.
But your sheriff is your directly elected law enforcement representative.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
So what I have to say to the audience at
this time is, get to know your sheriff. Yes, right,
you voted for him. Get to know your sheriff's. Lastly, Jack,
I know we're sheriff all. We're running out of time.
Can you talk a little bit about your budget. We've
got a couple of minutes here. How are things looking
on during this time of us fiscal restraints, and just
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talk about a little bit where we are well.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Most sheriff's offices in most counties are the largest consumers
of the county's general fund budget, and that's no different
here in Loraine County.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
We consume about thirty five percent of the entire general
fund of Loraine County, So we have approximately a thirty
three million dollar budget.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
A year that we consume.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Of that, some of that involves a quarter percent sales
tax which goes directly to the jail to make sure
that we fund those operations for the jail itself. But
one of the things that we've been most proud of,
even though that we've had to tighten our belt here
in Lorraine County, is our administration has come in and
looked at specific things, and the jail, due to its.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Age, is one of the largest.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Issues that we have as far as taking away from
the budget and expenses that you know, we could shore
things up on. And one of the things Jeff I
was most impressed about was our prescription drug cost our
meals for the prisoners that we do that too.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
The average meal cost about anywhere.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
From a buck something for breakfast up to a little
over two dollars, so a dollar eighty seven in average
current inmate that we used to feed the inmates. And
on top of that, and this was the biggest reduction
that we found, was the ridiculousness of the prescription drug cost.
In the past administrations, they would use a private company
to buy the pharmaceuticals for for all the inmates in
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jail jeff Lee House four hundred and twenty two inmates,
sometimes it will go up to four sixty. In our jail,
we're responsible for their healthcare, their medical costs, and we
were spending on average anywhere between sixty and eighty thousand
dollars a month just on prescription drugs alone. We were
able to then do a simple program, which was buying
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our drugs from the state prison system, the Department.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
And Rehabilitation and Corrections.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
We have lowered that eighty thousand dollars what we used
to pay down to eighteen thousand and less a month,
and so that's a million rank there that we've been
able to take.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
The budget and we look at that across our entire budget.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
The Sharp's Office thank you again that you're doing a
phenomenal job. I'll tell you with just being in office
just a little over a year. Great accomplishments. Keep doing
what you're doing and keep fighting a good fight. And uh,
just so great to hear your suggestions as to things
that we can do and how we can be supportive
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and enhance the efficiency of your office in terms of
making things easier.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
And just strengthening our communities. So again we're out of time. Unfortunately,
we're going to have you back because you've got again.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
You've got so much going on and so many good
things happen there. Again, Thank you, Sheriff jack Haw, and
thank you to our audience. Let's keep fighting a good
fight and informing our communities and together we'll all rise
and be a stronger America, stronger community, stronger state, stronger families, stronger,
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stronger households.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
So just keep fighting a good fight. Thank you again,
Sheriff Jackhaw.
The following is a presentation of FCB Faith.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
This is Keeping America First with Bishop Chawn Teacoats and
Reverend Jeff Jamison on FCB Faith.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Welcome to Keeping America First.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
And today we have a great guy, none other than
the sheriff of the Rain County Sheriff Department, and that
is none other than mister Jack Hall. Jack, glad to
have you with us this morning. How are you doing
on this cold, wintry day, Jeff, doing.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Great is trying to handle everything, coordinate everything over the county.
As you say, with the cold weather and the winter
that we've experienced over the.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Last couple of weeks, it's been a challenge.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
But we work with all of our community partners, our
township trustees, our mayors, our commissioners, are road superintendent cruise
trying to keep everybody safe, get everybody to work, and
get commerce moving in on the roadways.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
And making sure that we do it in the safest manner.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
You've actually been sheriff now for just a little over
a year, is that correct.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
That's over a area.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Okay, I know you've been doing. You've been really busy.
We've seen you on the on the news so many
different things taking place. Tell us a little bit about
your accomplishments. You ran as a spellar candidate and promised
to do a lot of things. Tell us a little
bit of what you've accomplished it thus fart well.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Many of the things that we're most proud of is
a lot of our programs that were intended to build
trust in the community and especially with special needs communities.
What we will be announcing shortly.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Which is in conjunction with what we call the Stepping
Up program across the state of Ohio, the Raine County
is re engaging into that program to be able to
have law enforcement assist greatly with special needs populations, the
autism community, communities that involve mental health needs. And one
of the things that we promised we would do in
the campaign is that there was an organization called the
(02:05):
Crew and that was the community Resource Unit.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
With that, we have a new deputy that is going
to be well.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Actually he's a deputy has been with the agency for
three decades.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Almost now, and that he is a community teacher in.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Regards to response to crisis intervention training and in regards
to working with our local outreach programs such as reveon Health.
What was formerly known as the Dorm Center, and so
therefore we're combining road patrol operations with one of our
correction staff personnel too that will work very closely in
the community and working with our local police departments that
(02:41):
when there's a crisis involving somebody that could be on
the spectrum or could be receiving special needs to the
county or subtless abuse issues, which a lot of those
issues we see in the jail on a regular basis,
and that's why we have corrections involved in that too.
Those will be specially trained deputy that will be able
to respond to those situations and an attempt to de escalate,
(03:03):
lower the temperature down as to what's going on, and
hopefully turn those calls over to us so we can
get them into the appropriate social services that with rebon
and their Community Reception Center which is newly built in Lorraine,
and in addition to that, make sure that they have
those special needs that we are not just automatically bringing
(03:24):
them to the jail, which we do now.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
And the Lorraine County Jail is one of the.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Largest mental health facilities providing that care and also one
of the largest substance abuse communities and care facilities in
northeast Ohio. So we want to make sure that that
incarceration is not always necessary. We have violent felons, fugitives,
people that need to be incarcerated and under the watch
(03:50):
of our skillful pressions officers, and right now we have
an imbalance in our jail of providing more for subs,
abuse and mental health services that thankfully due to Reveon
and the new community reception center that was built, we
can get those subjects into that. In addition, the cru
is assigned to our SWAT team, and our swat.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Team a lot of these times that we will get
calls of.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Somebody that is acting very violently and that person may
have a mental health history as well too, So before
we engage in any type of excessive force or unfortunately
sometimes it's deadly force, we want to make sure that
we provide that avenue first to be able to have
a successful outcome, not only for the subject that we're dealing.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
With, but a lot of people don't understand there's a
lot of stress on the officers the deputies when they
have to engage in an.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Excessive or deadly forced situation that we would like to.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Minimize those as well.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
And speaking of the jail, we've engaged in a lot
of programs in the jail. We've been making a lot
of physical improvements to a very old building that we
have in anticipation.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
At some point, very close down the road.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
We may start construction on the new one, but we
still have to accommodate for what we have here, making
us necessary security improvements, and with that, we've actually had
a reduction of assaults on our corrections officers inside the jail,
putting the entire appropriate, appropriate programming in and bringing in
church services again to the jail, which have been very
(05:13):
widely accepted by the inmates. And we've also created a
clergy program that we initiated which includes the face of
the Jewish faith, the Catholic faith, and the Protestant faith
that those clergy are available to not only our staff
and personnel, also our inmates in the jail, but everybody
in the community. And unfortunately, we had a situation a
(05:34):
couple of weeks ago in which one of our father
Alex from Sacred Art Church and Lorraine, he's one of
our clergy. He was actually writing with our deputies. We
had a call that we had to respond to which
the person was deceased, and so therefore the family met
the deputies, had to see our clergy was there. They
asked them to perform last rites, and that was a
(05:56):
service that you always don't have clergy with deputies when
they respond the calls. But we made sure that we
put that program back into place and we were able
to comfort that family in one of the greatest kinds
of needs.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
So a lot of.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Things that we've been able to do that we promised
we would do when.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
We ran for office.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
The biggest thing right now is the biggest disappointment that
we haven't been able to do is the fact is.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
That I wanted to put our budget actually.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Online so people could go to the Sheriff's office website
be able to click on our budget and see every
single transaction which runs through the Sheriff's office and doe
to the software which is being utilized by the Auditor's
office right now, and some backlogs with that, the communication
between the Commissioner's office. It's technologically right now, just something
that we're not going to be able to do for
(06:42):
probably maybe next.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Year before we get to the budget.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Could you spoke to the issue of officers having a
lot of.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Pressures on them.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Could you kind of talk about that a little bit,
because oftentimes we see, you know, everyone wants the police,
every won't want law enforcement to protect them. But can
you speak to some of the emotional stresses that the
officers experience.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well, especially here at Larrain County Sheriff's Office, even though
that we're finally back up the full staff, you know,
in both corrections in the Roe Drill Division, I believe
since the first time since two thousand and six, the
less deputies that you have working puts a lot more
pressure of those deputies to constantly handle the calls you know,
that are coming in. Before I took office, there'd be
a lot of times we would have three or four
(07:31):
deputies covering four hundred and ninety five square miles of
Larin County. We've got that up now to eight or
nine deputies plus two supervisors that are now covering that.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
And with that though, going from call to call to call.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And those being intense calls, Jeff, we see many people,
unfortunately at their worst times when we come into their lives.
A lot of times people don't want law enforcement involved
in their life at that particular time. But a neighbor
called somebody called nine one one, there's an assault that's
taking place, domestic situation, mental health situations, and the deputies
(08:07):
have to deal with that on a regular basis, And
so with that, we also put on staff a contracted
psychologists that we have on staff as well.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Too.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
We have created a peer counseling program within the law
enforcement community that comes to Lorraine County Sheriff's Office that
works with the deputies. And again going back to the
clergy members that we have put on there, those clergy
are riding with our deputies and they.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Are talking about the calls and talking about things that
have happened on those calls.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And even though it's the responsibility of the deputy to
take control of that situation and de escalate it, we
need a little assistance.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
At times too, and making sure that we have the
appropriate mental.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Health outlook and being able to handle with a lot
of the perils that we see on a daily basis.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Tell me a little bit about the peer counseling that
sounds good.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Is that something that's pretty common amongst all of the
departments across the state or national Is that A.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, we'll have groups that are assembled right now we
actually have latched onto the Cayahoga team because Lorraine County
has not had their own peer to peer counselant team
for the first responders in the county, so we're using
the cai Hogan model. We've actually latched onto the Cayhoga
team and anytime that we have a significant situation, even
(09:24):
just the other week, we had a chase that took
place which started with a aggravated robbery and the kidnapping
and aliria of a Prins truck driver that led our
department to the Ring Police Department, the Ellyria Police Department
and others in a high speed chase which ended in
North Hostead and unfortunately in the death of the suspect
in that case. Although the Illyria officers who were engaged
(09:48):
in that went to a great effort quickly to make
a very quick decision and they took the life of
that subject because he the subject was placing the lives
of the mother and her children. He took hostage in
North Homestead. Well, Jeff, that's not something we take lately.
So we have the peer support the Kyhuga team that
was called out. Matter of fact, everybody was involved in
(10:10):
that situation. The peer counseling, the clergy were involved, our
departmental psychologists was involved in that. We offered those services
to all the agencies that were involved in that pursuit
due to the fact is is that you know, no
one wakes up, no police officer wakes up every day
and says, hey, I want to go out and use
my firearm and shoot somebody. It's a last resort that
(10:33):
we go to, especially in an intense excessive course situation,
and we want to make sure.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
That those deputies and those officers are dealing with the.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Mental health aspect of that appropriately and to make sure
that we retain great qualified people and heroes to the
community to do their job appropriately.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Thank you, Thank you. Sheriff All.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
We're going to take a quick break and we're going
to be right back. We're back with Sheriff Jack Hall. Jack,
could you tell us a little bit about the community
outreach that you're doing and what can we do to
help as well.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Well with that.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
For the first time, we created our own silo within
the Sheriff's office, which was community Outreach because before I
took office, many things were happening and they still are
across the country. In which there's negative views of law
enforcement interactions with the communities. We see that right now,
especially the timeliness of this podcast of what's going on
in Minneapolis with order patrol and immigration and customer enforcements
(11:32):
and deaths have now occurred at the hand of those
protests and the enforcement efforts that have the community has
endured up there, and one of the things that we
wanted to make sure that we did when we came
on boards, we community created our community outreach unit. That
outject reach union is led by Major aging for us
from our office, and he also has two direct assistants
(11:54):
that helped him with that. By engaging in community outreach
that we have been out there regularly, the community, the
community gets to see us, the community gets to talk
with us. The sheriff is actually out there doing that.
We joke around the chief deputy. She handles everything inside
the sheriff's office. I handle everything outside the sheriff's office.
But what that does and engaging in that community outreach,
(12:15):
the coffee with the cops and constantly being out there
creates a sense of that we're human beings.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
People can come up to us, they can talk to us.
Our social media presence with the Lorraine County Sheriff's Office.
And this is actually one of the most amazing things
that we've done in our regards to our community outreach
is directly relating back to if we're not at a
community event, how do they communicate with us and how
do they get in touch with us. Before I took office,
the Loraine County Sheriff's Office with average twenty three thousand
(12:43):
views a month on Facebook, and there wasn't a lot
of interaction between the community and direct messaging and responding
back to comments on Facebook. If we do good or bad, Jeff,
we allow all the comments, and there's very few parameters
of threats against somebody, certain squear words and things like that.
If it's a negative comment, it still goes, you know,
(13:05):
out there because you know somebody feels a certain way
because of that.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
But this last weekend during the storm, we had a
major interaction with the community. A matter of fact, the
Central State Weather Facebook notification linked to our page because
we were talking about the potential of the Level three
snow emergency. What we're considered essentral workers, not essential workers
that would be allowed to be out during that snow emergency. So, Jeff,
(13:29):
we went from twenty three thousand viewers a month before
taking office to last week six point three million now
a month that we have on our viewers of that
so and actually as we ran the metrics, so this
past week we were.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
The second most viewed Facebook page.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Of sheriff offices in the entire country, behind the Lee
County Sheriff's Office in Florida.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
So we're very proud of that outreach.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
We're very proud of the fact that when we can
put these programs together. We had one for the holiday
gift card program that we would see signs of positive
you know, driving positive community interaction. We had a situation
in Lorraine that we had seen a dad who was
loading his two small little girls into the car, and
we turned around and hit the lights and pulled up
(14:17):
behind him.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
And the natural reaction was like, all right, what did
I do? You know?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
What's going on? Why is there a sheriff's car behind me?
So I had got out and my wife was actually
with me because she's also a deputy in another county,
and so we got out and you just saw the
look on the residence face like here it is, I'm
being harassed. Introduced myself as the sheriff, and we told
him that you know, saw that he was putting his
(14:42):
girls in the back seat. They were all buckled inappropriately.
So we had a big generosity of the business community
in Lorraine County. We had a lot of twenty five
dollars gas cards that we were allowed to give out,
so we gave him the gas card and his wife
was standing at the front door of the house and
she's like, what's going on. She goes your son terrified, and.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
So he's like, well, hold on.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So the wife comes out, the two little girls come
out of the backseat of the car.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
They want to see us, and Jeff, there's a little
six year old boy.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
He's at the top of the stairs in the front
door and he's crying because he's like, I'm in trouble
or my daddy's getting arrested.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
And so we brought him down and his dad was like, no, no, no,
this is good.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
The sheriff gave us a gift, and so.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
We coaxed them down the stairs.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
He came out, and you know, fortunately then the whole
family right in front of the sheriff's vehicle. Mark Sheriff's
huge and we took a picture of the whole family
and all that. It's just things that when people are
being pulled over by law enforcement, they automatically think it's
a negative experience of what I did. We want to
make sure that a lot of times they walk away
with the fact that it could also be a good
(15:44):
experience of why we I think?
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Do you share these type things on your Facebook page
and your social media? That's that's awesome. Do you think
what advice could you give to our listeners that are
hearing these things that want to see improved relate and
good relationships with law enforcement in their communities, Because oftentimes
people are complaining and that's what you hear most of
(16:08):
the time. You don't hear these positive stories. So what
would you tell the people that are sitting there complaining, saying, oh,
we can't stand our police, they're our enemy and that
type thing.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Well, right now, you know, we have a pretty full
calendar going through to your own community outreas events. But
those are the people now that do want us out there.
We have our own ice cream truck now called the
Frosty five zero, which we have taken the many community
events and our deputies and our corrections officers are taking
that to the vehicle out there. The first time we
ever took it out, we took it to one of
(16:41):
the housing projects here in Lorraine County. We gave out
over three hundred items of ice cream that we're given
out that initial day, making the kids believe, Okay, it's
our right to approach you know, law enforcement on.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
That have us come to your community meetings. We serve you.
You know, even though I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
The sheriff, I have three hundred and twenty two thousand
bosses in Lorraine County and we just want to make.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Sure that we are here to listen to you.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
We know a lot of times not everybody is going
to be happy, you know, every single minute.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
But at least we want to make sure that.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
The community understands that we listen. Now, some people too,
you know, they're mad because an enforcement action was taken
against them, and Cheff that's something we created. That means
so we always can't be the happy police. There's going
to be a lot of times and a lot of
interactions that we have that people break the law and
we are law enforcement and that's what the primary purpose
of our job is. But we want to make sure
that the community asks the questions as to why we engage.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
So maybe those that are listening, maybe women, seniors that
are at home just listening to this and they don't
really get engaged. Maybe the positive thing that they could do,
and just individuals, not just necessarily women, but anyone could
call their shareffs department and suggest that they do some
(17:59):
of these things that they create initiatives to go out
and engage with the citizens that are somewhat skeptical, skeptical
about what they're doing and just don't have that type
of relationship and watch the news and all the negativity.
Maybe they could turn that around by doing some of
these positive things that you're doing. Like you said, ice cream,
(18:23):
just ice cream with the cops, ice cream with the sheriffs,
get get your clergy engaged with the sheriffs, and and
things like that. So there's just so much more that
we can do across the state, from county to county
and across our nation right in.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
The sheriff's office too.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
You hit a good point there as well, is due
to the fact is that unlike a police chief in
a local police department who's appointed or tests that position,
the sheriffs are your elected law enforcement representative. I mean
they answered directly to you, and you voted that sheriff.
So when we talk about taking the message of the community,
(19:05):
especially in a law enforcements, but the community needs to
understand that your sheriff is your elected law enforcement representative
of the people.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
And so there's a lot of things that sometimes.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
A police department can't do because they're bound by the
restrictions of their city council, their mayor things like that.
But your sheriff is your directly elected law enforcement representative.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
So what I have to say to the audience at
this time is, get to know your sheriff. Yes, right,
you voted for him. Get to know your sheriff's. Lastly, Jack,
I know we're sheriff all. We're running out of time.
Can you talk a little bit about your budget. We've
got a couple of minutes here. How are things looking
on during this time of us fiscal restraints, and just
(19:52):
talk about a little bit where we are well.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Most sheriff's offices in most counties are the largest consumers
of the county's general fund budget, and that's no different
here in Loraine County.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
We consume about thirty five percent of the entire general
fund of Loraine County, So we have approximately a thirty
three million dollar budget.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
A year that we consume.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Of that, some of that involves a quarter percent sales
tax which goes directly to the jail to make sure
that we fund those operations for the jail itself. But
one of the things that we've been most proud of,
even though that we've had to tighten our belt here
in Lorraine County, is our administration has come in and
looked at specific things, and the jail, due to its.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Age, is one of the largest.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Issues that we have as far as taking away from
the budget and expenses that you know, we could shore
things up on. And one of the things Jeff I
was most impressed about was our prescription drug cost our
meals for the prisoners that we do that too.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
The average meal cost about anywhere.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
From a buck something for breakfast up to a little
over two dollars, so a dollar eighty seven in average
current inmate that we used to feed the inmates. And
on top of that, and this was the biggest reduction
that we found, was the ridiculousness of the prescription drug cost.
In the past administrations, they would use a private company
to buy the pharmaceuticals for for all the inmates in
(21:16):
jail jeff Lee House four hundred and twenty two inmates,
sometimes it will go up to four sixty. In our jail,
we're responsible for their healthcare, their medical costs, and we
were spending on average anywhere between sixty and eighty thousand
dollars a month just on prescription drugs alone. We were
able to then do a simple program, which was buying
(21:37):
our drugs from the state prison system, the Department.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
And Rehabilitation and Corrections.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
We have lowered that eighty thousand dollars what we used
to pay down to eighteen thousand and less a month,
and so that's a million rank there that we've been
able to take.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
The budget and we look at that across our entire budget.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
The Sharp's Office thank you again that you're doing a
phenomenal job. I'll tell you with just being in office
just a little over a year. Great accomplishments. Keep doing
what you're doing and keep fighting a good fight. And uh,
just so great to hear your suggestions as to things
that we can do and how we can be supportive
(22:18):
and enhance the efficiency of your office in terms of
making things easier.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
And just strengthening our communities. So again we're out of time. Unfortunately,
we're going to have you back because you've got again.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
You've got so much going on and so many good
things happen there. Again, Thank you, Sheriff jack Haw, and
thank you to our audience. Let's keep fighting a good
fight and informing our communities and together we'll all rise
and be a stronger America, stronger community, stronger state, stronger families, stronger,
(22:56):
stronger households.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
So just keep fighting a good fight. Thank you again,
Sheriff Jackhaw.
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