March 8, 2026 • 23 mins
Guest: Laurie Cardoza Moore (from Proclaiming Justice to the Nations)
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The following is a presentation of FCB Faith. This is
Keeping America First with Bishop Chawnt Coats and Reverend Jeff
Jamison on FCB Faith.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Welcome to Keeping America First. So glad to be here
on this cold, wintry day in the great state of Ohio.
Here with our co host, Bishop John T. Coates, who
was the President of the Inter Denominational Ministerial Alliance of Ohio.
How are you this morning, Bishop Coates?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Man, I am doing absolutely great. It is cold in Ohio,
and I think the only thing that gives me some
solace about it is that it's cold other places as well.
So we just didn't have to dig out out of
the snow in Columbus, but they're digging out the snow
in Dallas's they also.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Well, we're happy to have with us our great guest,
none other than lour Ordoza Moore, who is the executive
director of Proclaiming Justice to the Nation's PJTN. She is
doing a phenomenal job in combating anti Semitism that is
rising here across the country and across the globe unfortunately.
(01:22):
Welcome to our show this morning, Lorie. How are you.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Pastor Jamison I am doing well.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Thank you so much for having me on to talk
about this important issue that we're facing, not just here
in the United States, but really around the world.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Tell us about some of the great work that pjt
In is doing right now.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well, one of the things that we're heavily focused on
is education, and we've got a documentary film that is
currently in production called The Lost Jews of the Inquisition
to go back in history to remind people how anti
Semitism was able to prosper in a Christian country and
(02:02):
Christians were actually the ones who were executing these judgments
against the Jews. And if it could happen during the Inquisition,
it could, If it could happen in Nazi Germany, it
can certainly happen here in the United States of America.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
The other aspect is k through twelve education.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
We have got to start educating our children in the
United States why America and Israel are so uniquely connected.
Why the why teaching our children, why defending our relationship
with Israel and our Jewish brethren and the United States
of America is so critically important for future generations, especially
(02:42):
for the blessing that God promises a nation if we
will bless Israel, then we will be blessed as a people,
as a community, as a nation. And so that needs
to be articulated because we've got way too many people
now that are out there in the blog feel professing
to be Christians, who are promoting anti Semitism, who are
(03:06):
falsely accusing the Jews violating the Ninth Commandment by bearing
false witness. And so it's important that we as Christians
put this whole situation in context, especially because we're in
the last days and we should be able to recognize
the last days and everything that's happening.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But we're here to remind everyone.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
So those are just a couple of the projects that
we're working on with many many more.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Wow, how timely is that to examine the anti Semitism
from a historical standpoint? The Inquisition not just one, but
two of them. And there's a there's a saying or
phrase that people say that if you if you don't
know your history, you are doomed to repeat it. Now, Laurie,
(03:54):
we've seen a documented rise in anti Semitism than so
across the United States. What factors do you believe are
driving this increase? Right now?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Honestly, Bishop Coats, I think this is the age old
hatred that that Hayman displayed. We saw it with Esther Queen,
Esther and her King. I think that it's it.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Never really goes away.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
This is a hatred that endures throughout history, and we
saw it also with with.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
The with the Holocaust.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
We talked about the Inquisition, but we saw it with
the Holocaust in Nazi Germany. And you know, Germany at
the time that Hitler rose to power, which is really
frightening that Hitler or someone like Hitler could rise to
power in an educated nation because if we look back
at Germany at the time, Germany was a wealthy, educated nation.
(04:58):
It was the nation that gave rise to the earth
of the Reformation movement. So you could say Germany was
a Judeo Christian nation because there were Jews and Christians
who lived there together. But somehow the German world, because
Germany was going under some challenging times following coming out
(05:18):
of World War One, they were looking for escapegoat and
people like Hitler, and even people in our country are
using the same analogies, the same blood libels to accuse
the Jews of fabricating all kinds of evil in our
country and bringing our country to our knees, destroying our
(05:41):
country when it's not true. And unfortunately, because you know,
Germany had a large number of Christians, both Catholic and Protestant,
the United States is mostly a Christian nation, Catholic and Protestant.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
We do have.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Members of the Jewish community here, So how in the
world could we lose our way as Christians when the
church pews In fact, I hear that the pews are
full on Sunday now since the passing of the murder
of Charlie Kirk, a lot of people are turning back
to their face. So if the pews are full, then
(06:19):
how can people if we're teaching and preaching the true
Gospel message from the pulpits, how does this happen? How
do we find ourselves in a place where anti Semitism
is on the rise and people sit back and don't
challenge it.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
This is what's really frightening to me. It's a very
disturbing trend.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Well we see in college campuses across our nation, especially
in the Ivy League schools, there have been protests that
have erupted. And my question to you is, how do
you think the Israeli AMAS conflict. In fact, I don't
really want to even call it a conflict because Hamas
(07:04):
is a is a horrific terrorist, hate field organization. They're murderers.
But there's this conflict that exists. Palestinian people are somewhat
in the middle of it, and and anti Semitism and
college campuses in relationship to protests have have rerupted. How
(07:28):
do you think that this specific recent historical currence in
our nation has impacted the rise of anti Semitism.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Well, that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
And if we you know, our kids, the young people,
because we look at these marches that are going on,
we see people celebrating Hamas on the college campuses, we
even see kids in K through twelve education. We have
to ask ourselves how did we become susceptible to this belief?
(08:01):
Where did we lose our ability to look at what's
happening in Gayza from a correct lens, through a correct lens,
through an understanding that this is a terrorist group, it's Hamas.
We know Hamas's strategy is to gain as much.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Collateral damage as possible.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
So what they do is they put their own people,
innocent people, on the front lines, they hide behind children.
People are murdered and bombs go off and bullets are flying,
and who gets blamed for it. It's not Hamas, which
is the perpetrator of all this. Israel did not start
(08:43):
this war, but somehow the Hamas and the media, this
is global media has become has become complicit in spreading
these lies and disinformation. We even have pastors at Christ
at the checkpoint in Bethlehem month or Isaac who is
(09:05):
accusing the Jews of occupying Palestinian land. This is supposedly
a man who has gone to seminary's. I'm assuming he's
studied his Bible, he's read it. I'm not sure which
Bible he's reading from, but he How could he falsely
accuse the Jews of occupying Palestinian land when it's clearly
(09:29):
stated in the Bible to Abraham, to Isaac, to Jacob,
to their descendants forever, an eternal covenant, a promise that
God made that he would give them this land. And
I think what's happened is are kids that because most
of the kids that are sitting in K through twelve
classrooms or in higher ed campuses set in a Sunday
(09:51):
school class somewhere and somewhere someone was helping to create
a narrative that would one day ultimately be used against
the Jews. And if we can't, you know, if we're
using the New Testament scriptures and saying the Jews are
(10:12):
the christ killers. When Jesus said, no one takes my
life from me, I offer it up myself. If we
go back and we look at the text of the
scripture of the Bible, it's very clear. Paul even talks
about the covenant that God made with Israel, that it
would be everlasting and that the Church are grafted into
(10:32):
the commonwealth of Israel because of our shared faith in
Yeshiah in Jesus. So I think a lot of it
stems from the lack of education. You know, there was
a couple I talked about education being K through twelve,
education being one of our primary focuses with PJTN. There
(10:53):
was an example, a couple of examples that I found
in a textbook that talked about Middle East history and
Abraham named Abraham right, and they said that Abraham the
book basically said Abraham, God took Abraham and led him
to the land of Palestine. Well, there was no Palestine
at the time of Abraham.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
It was Canaan.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Another great example that I found in a book, another
history book, was when Moses took the Israelites out of Egypt,
he took them to Palestine. Well, even then, when the
Exodus happened, there was no Palestine at that time. That
didn't come along until the Roman period. So we're not
teaching history in the context of the Bible or geography
(11:37):
for that matter, and that's what's confusing people, and so
it becomes more important than ever for us as believers
to bring truth to this nation.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Thank you so much, Laurie. We're going to be right back.
We've got to take a quick break to audience. We'll
be right back.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Welcome back to Keeping American First. I am Bishop John Coates.
I'm joining with my co host, Pastor Jeffrey Jamison, and
we have a special guest with us today, Lori Cordoza Moore,
and she's a strong advocate for Israel and we've been
talking about the rise of anti Semitism in America, but
(12:23):
she has given us just a wonderful overview of history.
Well it's not a wonderful overview, but a terrible overview
of history of anti Semitism throughout world history. And you
know what's interesting is that anti Semitism did not necessarily
begin with Muslim religion, but yet began with Christians. And unfortunately,
(12:50):
we're seeing a rise in anti Semitism not just on
college campuses, but in the church as well. So when
did you start to notice the resurgence of anti Semitism
in American church's LORI.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Well, it really started right after nine to eleven happened.
Nine to eleven was the turning point in my life.
When the Lord said to me, I want you to
There was a lobbyist in Alabama that was introducing a
resolution to support the state of Israel. It was six
months after nine to eleven, and when nine to eleven happened,
(13:29):
all of a sudden, I connected the dots. I've been
a student of the Bible for many, many years, since
I had gotten saved in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I've been a student of history.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I loved history, so I was able to connect the
history and the Bible together. But when the Lord told
me to introduce that resolution and we tied in what
happened on nine to eleven, we were attacked. We were
attacked because of our Judeo Christian values and so really
(14:00):
that was when it started. And as I began to
the Lord put it on my heart to produce the documentary.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Media is our background.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
So as I mentioned about the documentary on the Inquisition,
the Lord wanted me to do a documentary to educate
the church about how anti Semitism began, the Forgotten People, Christianity,
and the Holocaust, to try to connect the church to
understand what the Church has done historically to the Jews
(14:29):
during the programs during the Inquisition, during the Holocaust, because
I found that most Christians when I would just talk
to them about this history, many of them had no idea,
They had no clue. And so what do we see
happening now. It's the same anti Semitic tropes that we
heard before are now starting to be spewed again by
(14:52):
people like Tucker Carlson, Candae Owans, Megan Kelly. It's all
being restated as fact when we know that it's disinformation.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You know, And that's unfortunate because we know that over
the last forty plus years there's been an effort, especially
among evangelical churches, to put together just trips to Israel
so that Christians can walk go through the Holy Land
and get to see the progress of a new nation
(15:27):
being formed and developed for themselves. And if you haven't
taken a trip to Israel, please, you know, do so.
There's a lot of there's a lot of organizations that
now are sponsoring trips to Israel. And I encourage you
to go see the land where Jesus walked, and to
go to the Welling Wall and to experience some time
(15:49):
in the Sea of Galilee. You know, it's just just
a wonderful a wonderful place to visit. But Laurie, are
there certain regions of the country that we find this
rise occurring in? I know the Northwest has always been
a concern, but are there are there other regions in
the country that we're finding a rise of anti Semitism
(16:12):
in the church?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
That's a great question, Bishop Coates, and the only thing
that can I haven't studied all of the regions, but
I do see a similar pattern of anti Semitism. And
typically we see the anti Semitism, whether it be in
the church or in the communities in areas where there
(16:34):
are large Jewish populations.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I don't know why that is.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Maybe you know, in the South, there's still a problem
because we did have We remember the KKK and they
were anti Summites. We remember Leo Frank who was hung
from a tree in Atlanta, so we have that long
history of it. I think that's when I see the
number of events.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I see those incidents.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
I see those incidents occurring in places where there is
a large Jewish population.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Okay, are there certain reformations where there is a rise
of anti Semitism in.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
When we see it like what just we just celebrated
or I can't say celebrated. We just memorialized the Jews
that were killed during the Holocaust.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
It was the International Memorial and again we.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Saw a rise of anti Semitic incidents because of that day,
because we were we were recognizing or memorializing that day.
We see it happening during Easter, during the Good Friday services,
we see a rise of anti Semitism against the Jews
because it stirs up again once again that that those
(17:56):
age old tropes, the age old hatred against the Jewjewish people.
So that's typically when I see when we start seeing
an increase in it. Although now we're seeing random incidents
that occur like in the.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
State of Florida.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
It has a large Jewish population. We've seen anti Semitic
incidents occurring here, even with Governor DeSantis. Now it's kind
of gone quiet. It's not as bad as what it
was like it was last year, where they were putting
videos or digital lights words anti Semitic slurs on buildings.
(18:37):
So that's typically when we tend to see it. But
now it just it kind of seems to be more
mainstream where we're randomly we're watching what's happening on social media,
and people on social media are spewing these lies and
this disinformation. Then you read the comments section, it's unbelievable
what people say and what people believe.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Wow, Pastor Jamison, you know, we live in a great,
great nation, and one of the things that makes our
nation great is our constitution. And in that constitution there's
a First Amendment, and that first Amendment allows us freedom
of speech. But where do you see the line at
between legitimate political protest our criticism of Israel and antisemitic rhetoric, Pastor,
(19:29):
and then.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I think that the most important thing for us to
remember is our Judeo Christian heritage. We go to church,
we worship the Lord Jesus Christ, and we can't compromise that,
and we have to take a stand, a firm stand
for the nation of Israel, because, as Laurie had mentioned earlier,
we read it with passion that we truly believe that
(19:54):
the Lord said that he will bless those that bless
thee speaking of the nation of Israel, and curse those
at curse thee. Well, I think that we have to
be very vigilant and watching to make sure that we're
not swayed by the sometimes sometimes mainstream or left leaning
(20:18):
media that portrays Israel as being too heavy handed in
protecting itself. We have to remember how dangerous Hamas is,
that they're willing to put innocent children's and women's lives
at stake by hiding in communities, hiding their Hamas hides.
(20:44):
These are militants, terrorists that hide amongst good people, just
regular people in regular communities, on regular streets, in schools,
under homes and communities, putting in danger because they're at
war those same people, those innocent people. And Israel is
(21:08):
doing everything and it can the rid itself of a
moss which is infected communities. So the mainstream media sometimes
shows Israel doing everything it can to weed out a
moss which is out to destroy it from the face
of the earth as the bad person.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
But we know, we know they are guilty. Guilt, guilty, guilt.
We've got in our final thirty seconds an any closing remarks,
And how can someone get in touch with you if
they want to get engaged in the most important work
that you're doing well.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
I think the one of the most important things that
we can do in our communities, in our congregations is
adopt the IRA definition of anti Semitism because using those
in those standards, the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance came up
(22:06):
with a definition that I believe it's now thirty seven
countries use as an example of anti Semitism, so people
can discern if an incident is anti Semitic or not.
So I would encourage our congregations, our pastors to adopt
the IRA definition, to speak out publicly within their congregations
(22:30):
about what we're seeing happening, to get them to stop
the platforming that's going on with regards to anti Semitism.
And when we engage people in this conversation, if people
make allegations against Israel, we need to ask people what
is the evidence present the evidence, What is the context
(22:51):
of what the evidence is.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Being Where can someone reach you? How can someone reach you?
Speaker 4 (22:56):
They can reach us at our website at pgatn dot org.
Send us a request for information, but everything is right
there on the website so that you can get engaged.
We've got videos to educate the masses. We're happy to help.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Thank you, We thank you for our special guest Laura
Cardoza Moore from Proclaiming Justice to the Nations. I'm Bishop
John Coats and been joined by our co host, Pastor
Jeffrey Jamison, and you're listening to Keeping America First.
The following is a presentation of FCB Faith. This is
Keeping America First with Bishop Chawnt Coats and Reverend Jeff
Jamison on FCB Faith.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Welcome to Keeping America First. So glad to be here
on this cold, wintry day in the great state of Ohio.
Here with our co host, Bishop John T. Coates, who
was the President of the Inter Denominational Ministerial Alliance of Ohio.
How are you this morning, Bishop Coates?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Man, I am doing absolutely great. It is cold in Ohio,
and I think the only thing that gives me some
solace about it is that it's cold other places as well.
So we just didn't have to dig out out of
the snow in Columbus, but they're digging out the snow
in Dallas's they also.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Well, we're happy to have with us our great guest,
none other than lour Ordoza Moore, who is the executive
director of Proclaiming Justice to the Nation's PJTN. She is
doing a phenomenal job in combating anti Semitism that is
rising here across the country and across the globe unfortunately.
(01:22):
Welcome to our show this morning, Lorie. How are you.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Pastor Jamison I am doing well.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Thank you so much for having me on to talk
about this important issue that we're facing, not just here
in the United States, but really around the world.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Tell us about some of the great work that pjt
In is doing right now.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well, one of the things that we're heavily focused on
is education, and we've got a documentary film that is
currently in production called The Lost Jews of the Inquisition
to go back in history to remind people how anti
Semitism was able to prosper in a Christian country and
(02:02):
Christians were actually the ones who were executing these judgments
against the Jews. And if it could happen during the Inquisition,
it could, If it could happen in Nazi Germany, it
can certainly happen here in the United States of America.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
The other aspect is k through twelve education.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
We have got to start educating our children in the
United States why America and Israel are so uniquely connected.
Why the why teaching our children, why defending our relationship
with Israel and our Jewish brethren and the United States
of America is so critically important for future generations, especially
(02:42):
for the blessing that God promises a nation if we
will bless Israel, then we will be blessed as a people,
as a community, as a nation. And so that needs
to be articulated because we've got way too many people
now that are out there in the blog feel professing
to be Christians, who are promoting anti Semitism, who are
(03:06):
falsely accusing the Jews violating the Ninth Commandment by bearing
false witness. And so it's important that we as Christians
put this whole situation in context, especially because we're in
the last days and we should be able to recognize
the last days and everything that's happening.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But we're here to remind everyone.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
So those are just a couple of the projects that
we're working on with many many more.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Wow, how timely is that to examine the anti Semitism
from a historical standpoint? The Inquisition not just one, but
two of them. And there's a there's a saying or
phrase that people say that if you if you don't
know your history, you are doomed to repeat it. Now, Laurie,
(03:54):
we've seen a documented rise in anti Semitism than so
across the United States. What factors do you believe are
driving this increase? Right now?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Honestly, Bishop Coats, I think this is the age old
hatred that that Hayman displayed. We saw it with Esther Queen,
Esther and her King. I think that it's it.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Never really goes away.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
This is a hatred that endures throughout history, and we
saw it also with with.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
The with the Holocaust.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
We talked about the Inquisition, but we saw it with
the Holocaust in Nazi Germany. And you know, Germany at
the time that Hitler rose to power, which is really
frightening that Hitler or someone like Hitler could rise to
power in an educated nation because if we look back
at Germany at the time, Germany was a wealthy, educated nation.
(04:58):
It was the nation that gave rise to the earth
of the Reformation movement. So you could say Germany was
a Judeo Christian nation because there were Jews and Christians
who lived there together. But somehow the German world, because
Germany was going under some challenging times following coming out
(05:18):
of World War One, they were looking for escapegoat and
people like Hitler, and even people in our country are
using the same analogies, the same blood libels to accuse
the Jews of fabricating all kinds of evil in our
country and bringing our country to our knees, destroying our
(05:41):
country when it's not true. And unfortunately, because you know,
Germany had a large number of Christians, both Catholic and Protestant,
the United States is mostly a Christian nation, Catholic and Protestant.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
We do have.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Members of the Jewish community here, So how in the
world could we lose our way as Christians when the
church pews In fact, I hear that the pews are
full on Sunday now since the passing of the murder
of Charlie Kirk, a lot of people are turning back
to their face. So if the pews are full, then
(06:19):
how can people if we're teaching and preaching the true
Gospel message from the pulpits, how does this happen? How
do we find ourselves in a place where anti Semitism
is on the rise and people sit back and don't
challenge it.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
This is what's really frightening to me. It's a very
disturbing trend.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Well we see in college campuses across our nation, especially
in the Ivy League schools, there have been protests that
have erupted. And my question to you is, how do
you think the Israeli AMAS conflict. In fact, I don't
really want to even call it a conflict because Hamas
(07:04):
is a is a horrific terrorist, hate field organization. They're murderers.
But there's this conflict that exists. Palestinian people are somewhat
in the middle of it, and and anti Semitism and
college campuses in relationship to protests have have rerupted. How
(07:28):
do you think that this specific recent historical currence in
our nation has impacted the rise of anti Semitism.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Well, that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
And if we you know, our kids, the young people,
because we look at these marches that are going on,
we see people celebrating Hamas on the college campuses, we
even see kids in K through twelve education. We have
to ask ourselves how did we become susceptible to this belief?
(08:01):
Where did we lose our ability to look at what's
happening in Gayza from a correct lens, through a correct lens,
through an understanding that this is a terrorist group, it's Hamas.
We know Hamas's strategy is to gain as much.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Collateral damage as possible.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
So what they do is they put their own people,
innocent people, on the front lines, they hide behind children.
People are murdered and bombs go off and bullets are flying,
and who gets blamed for it. It's not Hamas, which
is the perpetrator of all this. Israel did not start
(08:43):
this war, but somehow the Hamas and the media, this
is global media has become has become complicit in spreading
these lies and disinformation. We even have pastors at Christ
at the checkpoint in Bethlehem month or Isaac who is
(09:05):
accusing the Jews of occupying Palestinian land. This is supposedly
a man who has gone to seminary's. I'm assuming he's
studied his Bible, he's read it. I'm not sure which
Bible he's reading from, but he How could he falsely
accuse the Jews of occupying Palestinian land when it's clearly
(09:29):
stated in the Bible to Abraham, to Isaac, to Jacob,
to their descendants forever, an eternal covenant, a promise that
God made that he would give them this land. And
I think what's happened is are kids that because most
of the kids that are sitting in K through twelve
classrooms or in higher ed campuses set in a Sunday
(09:51):
school class somewhere and somewhere someone was helping to create
a narrative that would one day ultimately be used against
the Jews. And if we can't, you know, if we're
using the New Testament scriptures and saying the Jews are
(10:12):
the christ killers. When Jesus said, no one takes my
life from me, I offer it up myself. If we
go back and we look at the text of the
scripture of the Bible, it's very clear. Paul even talks
about the covenant that God made with Israel, that it
would be everlasting and that the Church are grafted into
(10:32):
the commonwealth of Israel because of our shared faith in
Yeshiah in Jesus. So I think a lot of it
stems from the lack of education. You know, there was
a couple I talked about education being K through twelve,
education being one of our primary focuses with PJTN. There
(10:53):
was an example, a couple of examples that I found
in a textbook that talked about Middle East history and
Abraham named Abraham right, and they said that Abraham the
book basically said Abraham, God took Abraham and led him
to the land of Palestine. Well, there was no Palestine
at the time of Abraham.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
It was Canaan.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Another great example that I found in a book, another
history book, was when Moses took the Israelites out of Egypt,
he took them to Palestine. Well, even then, when the
Exodus happened, there was no Palestine at that time. That
didn't come along until the Roman period. So we're not
teaching history in the context of the Bible or geography
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for that matter, and that's what's confusing people, and so
it becomes more important than ever for us as believers
to bring truth to this nation.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Thank you so much, Laurie. We're going to be right back.
We've got to take a quick break to audience. We'll
be right back.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Welcome back to Keeping American First. I am Bishop John Coates.
I'm joining with my co host, Pastor Jeffrey Jamison, and
we have a special guest with us today, Lori Cordoza Moore,
and she's a strong advocate for Israel and we've been
talking about the rise of anti Semitism in America, but
(12:23):
she has given us just a wonderful overview of history.
Well it's not a wonderful overview, but a terrible overview
of history of anti Semitism throughout world history. And you
know what's interesting is that anti Semitism did not necessarily
begin with Muslim religion, but yet began with Christians. And unfortunately,
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we're seeing a rise in anti Semitism not just on
college campuses, but in the church as well. So when
did you start to notice the resurgence of anti Semitism
in American church's LORI.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Well, it really started right after nine to eleven happened.
Nine to eleven was the turning point in my life.
When the Lord said to me, I want you to
There was a lobbyist in Alabama that was introducing a
resolution to support the state of Israel. It was six
months after nine to eleven, and when nine to eleven happened,
(13:29):
all of a sudden, I connected the dots. I've been
a student of the Bible for many, many years, since
I had gotten saved in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I've been a student of history.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I loved history, so I was able to connect the
history and the Bible together. But when the Lord told
me to introduce that resolution and we tied in what
happened on nine to eleven, we were attacked. We were
attacked because of our Judeo Christian values and so really
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that was when it started. And as I began to
the Lord put it on my heart to produce the documentary.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Media is our background.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
So as I mentioned about the documentary on the Inquisition,
the Lord wanted me to do a documentary to educate
the church about how anti Semitism began, the Forgotten People, Christianity,
and the Holocaust, to try to connect the church to
understand what the Church has done historically to the Jews
(14:29):
during the programs during the Inquisition, during the Holocaust, because
I found that most Christians when I would just talk
to them about this history, many of them had no idea,
They had no clue. And so what do we see
happening now. It's the same anti Semitic tropes that we
heard before are now starting to be spewed again by
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people like Tucker Carlson, Candae Owans, Megan Kelly. It's all
being restated as fact when we know that it's disinformation.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You know, And that's unfortunate because we know that over
the last forty plus years there's been an effort, especially
among evangelical churches, to put together just trips to Israel
so that Christians can walk go through the Holy Land
and get to see the progress of a new nation
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being formed and developed for themselves. And if you haven't
taken a trip to Israel, please, you know, do so.
There's a lot of there's a lot of organizations that
now are sponsoring trips to Israel. And I encourage you
to go see the land where Jesus walked, and to
go to the Welling Wall and to experience some time
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in the Sea of Galilee. You know, it's just just
a wonderful a wonderful place to visit. But Laurie, are
there certain regions of the country that we find this
rise occurring in? I know the Northwest has always been
a concern, but are there are there other regions in
the country that we're finding a rise of anti Semitism
(16:12):
in the church?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
That's a great question, Bishop Coates, and the only thing
that can I haven't studied all of the regions, but
I do see a similar pattern of anti Semitism. And
typically we see the anti Semitism, whether it be in
the church or in the communities in areas where there
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are large Jewish populations.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I don't know why that is.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Maybe you know, in the South, there's still a problem
because we did have We remember the KKK and they
were anti Summites. We remember Leo Frank who was hung
from a tree in Atlanta, so we have that long
history of it. I think that's when I see the
number of events.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I see those incidents.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
I see those incidents occurring in places where there is
a large Jewish population.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Okay, are there certain reformations where there is a rise
of anti Semitism in.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
When we see it like what just we just celebrated
or I can't say celebrated. We just memorialized the Jews
that were killed during the Holocaust.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
It was the International Memorial and again we.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Saw a rise of anti Semitic incidents because of that day,
because we were we were recognizing or memorializing that day.
We see it happening during Easter, during the Good Friday services,
we see a rise of anti Semitism against the Jews
because it stirs up again once again that that those
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age old tropes, the age old hatred against the Jewjewish people.
So that's typically when I see when we start seeing
an increase in it. Although now we're seeing random incidents
that occur like in the.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
State of Florida.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
It has a large Jewish population. We've seen anti Semitic
incidents occurring here, even with Governor DeSantis. Now it's kind
of gone quiet. It's not as bad as what it
was like it was last year, where they were putting
videos or digital lights words anti Semitic slurs on buildings.
(18:37):
So that's typically when we tend to see it. But
now it just it kind of seems to be more
mainstream where we're randomly we're watching what's happening on social media,
and people on social media are spewing these lies and
this disinformation. Then you read the comments section, it's unbelievable
what people say and what people believe.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Wow, Pastor Jamison, you know, we live in a great,
great nation, and one of the things that makes our
nation great is our constitution. And in that constitution there's
a First Amendment, and that first Amendment allows us freedom
of speech. But where do you see the line at
between legitimate political protest our criticism of Israel and antisemitic rhetoric, Pastor,
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and then.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I think that the most important thing for us to
remember is our Judeo Christian heritage. We go to church,
we worship the Lord Jesus Christ, and we can't compromise that,
and we have to take a stand, a firm stand
for the nation of Israel, because, as Laurie had mentioned earlier,
we read it with passion that we truly believe that
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the Lord said that he will bless those that bless
thee speaking of the nation of Israel, and curse those
at curse thee. Well, I think that we have to
be very vigilant and watching to make sure that we're
not swayed by the sometimes sometimes mainstream or left leaning
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media that portrays Israel as being too heavy handed in
protecting itself. We have to remember how dangerous Hamas is,
that they're willing to put innocent children's and women's lives
at stake by hiding in communities, hiding their Hamas hides.
(20:44):
These are militants, terrorists that hide amongst good people, just
regular people in regular communities, on regular streets, in schools,
under homes and communities, putting in danger because they're at
war those same people, those innocent people. And Israel is
(21:08):
doing everything and it can the rid itself of a
moss which is infected communities. So the mainstream media sometimes
shows Israel doing everything it can to weed out a
moss which is out to destroy it from the face
of the earth as the bad person.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
But we know, we know they are guilty. Guilt, guilty, guilt.
We've got in our final thirty seconds an any closing remarks,
And how can someone get in touch with you if
they want to get engaged in the most important work
that you're doing well.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
I think the one of the most important things that
we can do in our communities, in our congregations is
adopt the IRA definition of anti Semitism because using those
in those standards, the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance came up
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with a definition that I believe it's now thirty seven
countries use as an example of anti Semitism, so people
can discern if an incident is anti Semitic or not.
So I would encourage our congregations, our pastors to adopt
the IRA definition, to speak out publicly within their congregations
(22:30):
about what we're seeing happening, to get them to stop
the platforming that's going on with regards to anti Semitism.
And when we engage people in this conversation, if people
make allegations against Israel, we need to ask people what
is the evidence present the evidence, What is the context
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of what the evidence is.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Being Where can someone reach you? How can someone reach you?
Speaker 4 (22:56):
They can reach us at our website at pgatn dot org.
Send us a request for information, but everything is right
there on the website so that you can get engaged.
We've got videos to educate the masses. We're happy to help.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Thank you, We thank you for our special guest Laura
Cardoza Moore from Proclaiming Justice to the Nations. I'm Bishop
John Coats and been joined by our co host, Pastor
Jeffrey Jamison, and you're listening to Keeping America First.
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