Texas Baby Tortured For 30 Hours by Mother and Boyfriend - The Murder of Amora Bain Carson

On the morning of Dec. 2, 2008, police received a 911 call about a baby. When police arrived, the scene was worse than they could have even imagined. A VERY heavy word of caution - this case is very hard to listen to. Listener discretion is highly advised.

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Now part of the Darkcast Network, welcome to Indy Podcasts with a Dark Side.

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On the morning of December 2, 2008, police received a 911 call about a baby.
When police arrived, the scene was even worse than they could even imagine.
A very heavy word of caution.
This case is very hard to listen to.
Listener discretion is highly advised.

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It's the case of the murder of a moribane Carson right now on Love and Murder.
Welcome LaMs. Welcome to a new episode of Love and Murder.
You're a weekly True Crime Podcast telling you cases of heartbreak that turned to homicide.

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I am your host Ky and in today's episode, we're discussing a case that took me a long time to
research a long time to write and even longer time to record.
Record in literally I procrastinated till today.
I just recorded this because I just I just couldn't and I know it's going to take me a long time
to edit this because of the content.

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I really had to take breaks and separate myself from this case.
I don't think people really understand how hard it is to relay true crime cases.
This case is particularly disturbing. It has extreme child abuse.
I'm giving you one more warning of listener description before I begin.

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Amora Bane Carson was born on November 12, 2007 to Arlene,
Mutina and Jessica Carson. When Amora was born, Arlene had been serving in the military so he only
got to see his daughter just a few times before him and Jessica ended up separating. Amora was
described as a really quiet baby. She rarely ever cried. She only cried like if she needed something.

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She wasn't one of those babies who just cried and cried and cried for no reason. At this point in time,
Jessica was living with her mother and her brother and it was just a good situation for her. She
had people to help take care of Amora and she had people who supported her. After a while, she met a
man named Blaine Keith Millam. Blaine, a little while after, they met, offered for Jessica and Amora to

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move in with him. Jessica thought that was a good idea because she felt like she was struggling
and a single parent and she just wanted somebody's help which is weird because she lived with her
mom and her brother and they were already helping her. At 17, she moved in to Blaine's trailer
home in Longwood, Texas, thinking that this was what's best for her and her baby. Now Blaine himself

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was only slightly older than her and his background was not the best but if she had taken time to
get to know him, she would have learned that. Blaine had his first drink of alcohol, hard alcohol,
when he was 13 and by 15 he was drinking "a pint of snaps per day" then by 16 which is only a year

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older, he had started using meth and when he was unable to get meth, he would get vikered in or crack
or in bomb and fluid, he would take PCP, he would take LSD, he would take just whatever he could get
his hands on. Now according to Jessica and I guess through her rose colored glasses, Blaine seemed to

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love Amora and she thought he loved Amora more than Amora's father did. As time passed by,
Jessica seemed to change after moving in with Blaine. She really stopped contacting her mom and her
brother, even her friends and when they tried to reach out to her she wouldn't answer the phone.
Whenever they did see her, they saw that she went from being a well-dressed, caring mother to looking

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dirty, looking frazzled, looking unkempt and she seemed "unconcerned" about her appearance. Friends also
reported that her demeanor went from happy and carefree to "weird hollow" like empty and that
looking into her eyes was like "looking into a dark space". They also recognized that Blaine was the

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one who was now in control of Amora's life. As Jessica really wasn't taking care of her daughter,
which that's also a change because she was a doting mother and now she's just leaving the baby
for Blaine to take care of. Another thing that was unsettling is that she was always with Blaine.
Literally, always with Blaine. When he was at work, she would stay there and this wasn't really

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her decision. This was because Blaine was really jealous and very controlling and he wanted to be
able to watch her all the time to make sure that she wasn't cheating on him. And other than following
him around, she was never allowed to leave the house alone. So she would just always be home. So that was it.

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He wouldn't allow her to leave. One day Jessica purchased a Ouija board so she could, as she puts it,
communicate with her dead father. Now her father had committed suicide when she was 10 and she was the one
who found his body hanged. So this stuck with her for a long time and I think it's kind of the reason
that she's the way she is. She's kind of, you'll see what I'm talking about. So she got this Ouija board

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thinking that she was going to quote unquote as she puts it, talk to her father and she started saying
that she believed that her mother was responsible for her father's death. So she would walk around telling
people that it was her mother who killed her father. Then after that, the other thing she started
telling people was that she thought that this is just complete delusions. So she's clearly not

(06:53):
in her right mind, but she said that she thought that demons had possessed Blaine and was in their
apartment. Now you would think, okay, she needs to go into a mental hospital. However, Blaine also
believed that demons possessed him. So we have the only two adults in the apartment thinking that
demons were possessing them. Nobody is able to come and look after the baby. Nobody is actually really

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knowing what's going on. So the only two adults that are in the apartment who is supposed to be
watching Amura are going off their rocker. Now I'm wondering if this is mental health issues or if it's
drugs. I'm thinking for Blaine is more drugs that possibly turned into mental health issues, meaning
the drugs eight away at his brain and he's probably still on drugs. But what about Jessica? Did she

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start using drugs with him? Now they later moved out of their trailer in Longwood and into another
trailer in Tatum. And when the landlord went to check the Longwood trailer, he found nothing,
but a nasty disgusting mess waiting for him. He found that there was this light bulb that they had
turned into a container to be able to smoke methane. He also found that there was rotten food in

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the refrigerator that they just left there. And there was a knife hidden in the tank of the toilet.
So he found drugs. Well, he didn't find drugs. He found a light bulb that probably had the
residue of crystal meth in it. I already know Blaine is using. So does that now tell me that Jessica
is using and of all things meth, not saying anything else is good, but my God. So on December 2nd

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at 10 30 a.m 911 call came in quote, my name is Blaine Milan and my daughter. I just found her dead.
This was the legit 911 call. So police were dispatched and when they got there, both Blaine and
Jessica told them that they had gone to look at land to buy and when they got back home,
a mora was dead. They have no idea what happened. She was just dead when she they got back home.

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Now my first question is a cop is, um, you say you both left and the baby was home alone. Is is that
correct? And so she was born on November 12th, 2007. And this is only December 2nd, 2008. So she's
literally just turning one. She's like 13 months and the baby was just home alone and you were surprised

(09:15):
when you got home that she was dead. This is me as a cop if I if they were to tell me that.
So they basically matter of factly said, yeah, yeah, she was home by herself and we're thinking that
somebody broke into the trailer and a tactor. That's the only thing I can come up with. So when police
went to look at the child, they're looking at this child and looking at the adults and looking at

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this child and looking at the adults and the child was lifeless, just dead, blue, lifeless and the
shocking part of it, not that they left her home alone by herself at 13 months, not that they're so
callous about this like, yeah, we leave our child home alone all the time, isn't that normal? So
those two aren't the most shocking things. The most shocking thing about this was the child had 24

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human bite marks all over her body and also red and purple bruises cover in her entire head.
So police immediately wrapped up the child and took it to a medical examiner. Medical examiner
has revealed that she had suffered horribly and terribly before she died. She had been beaten

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until her skull fractured and her brain was damaged. She had limbs that had been twisted in two and he
reported that her torso had been hit with a blunt object or squeezed together until her ribs
and her sternum broke. Do you know how hard it is to break a sternum? In all, she had 18 rib fractures.

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Her head was so horribly beaten that she had been bleeding in her eyes and her tongue was
lacerated and she had been beaten so bad that her liver was damaged. Do you know how badly you have
to beat somebody that their liver is damaged from an external beating?

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Her private parts were so damaged that her anus and her vagina had become one opening. It was no
longer, two separate openings. It was one opening and this happened before she died. During his
investigation, the medical examiner couldn't even determine which one of her injuries was the final

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cause of her death. So now police are really looking at Blaine and Jessica. Blaine kept to his story
when he said that he and Jessica had left a moor alone in the trailer and then when they return,
they found her dead. Then as police sat there staring at him, he then said, "Well, you know what?
You know, she's not even my daughter. She's Jessica's daughter. She's just, you know, my

(12:08):
girlfriend's daughter and they live with me." But I'm quote, "raising that baby." So in Jessica's
interview, she was telling investigators that her baby, quote, hit itself in the head with a hammer.
She also said, "It was attacked by dogs." She also said that when she came home, she, quote,
didn't find it in this condition and she also tried the whole, maybe it was, quote, "injured in a

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car wreck." So after an hour of all of these, she took a deep breath and the police officer who was
investigating her said he noticed, quote, a pretty drastic change in her demeanor and she had, quote,
stop crying and acting very distraught. And instead of calling the baby her baby or her dead

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daughter or amora, she referred to the baby as, quote, "that baby" and stopped acting like she really
cured about it at all. Then she told the officer the true story of what happened. She said, "Blaine
was the one who brought this Ouija board into the house and she really didn't want the Ouija board
in the house." However, one does not argue with Blaine, so she let him do it. He said he was bringing

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that Ouija board into talks to his dead father and that was one of the things that she liked about him
because they shared the fact that both of their fathers had died. So she thought, well, maybe if you
are doing that, maybe I can do it too? That's what she thought. She said when they started using the Ouija
board, she was afraid that, quote, "she would be talking to bad spirits through the board" is what she

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says. And so she said while they were talking to whatever, she had a feeling that it was a bad spirit
and that as she's put it, it entered Blaine's body. At the same time, some other weird thing happened
on the very same day that was really, really weird to her. Amora took her first steps and Blaine was

(14:01):
like, that's not normal. She shouldn't be walking already and he said she was, quote, "too young to walk."
So there could be only one explanation for this and that is as he put it, a demon had gone into Amora,
probably the same one that had gone into him as he said. So he said the child was like, quote,
"chucky" or quote, "pet cemetery." If you don't know, these are two horror movies where basically,

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in pet cemetery, the boy died and this guy buries him in a pet cemetery and supposedly the boy comes
back to life and then starts killing everybody and in chucky, I think he was a serial killer or something
but he died and supposedly he took over chucky's body and was killing everybody. And he said this

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because Amora was quote, "biting Blaine to where it was drawing blood on his hands" which I completely
and utterly highly doubt. I have been bitten by a child many times in infant, a toddler because that's
what children do and they have never drawn blood. So he decided that it was his duty to remove the
quote as he said it, "demon from the baby" and he said he was going to do an exorcism. Now my question is,

(15:13):
you thought it was in you? Why aren't you doing this to yourself? She said he did not allow her to watch
this supposed exorcism and he took Amora into a room and closed the door. She could quote, "here the
demon cry out and scream out" and then she quote, "herde a lot of banging" but she said she didn't move.
She stayed on the couch for about 30 hours as this was happening. She sat there on the couch and let

(15:42):
it happen and didn't move. For the most part, maybe she got up and got some water. Maybe she went to
the bathroom but she sat there and listened to her child scream in and crying and hearing a lot of
banging. Then after 30 hours, Blaine came out and he said that he needed to hire a priest for this
as he said exorcism because according to him this wasn't working so they needed to go out and sell

(16:06):
some household tools and get money to be able to hire said priest. So that's where they were and they
weren't out trying to buy land. They were out trying to sell some household tools to make some money
to hire the priest to finish with what they called an exorcism. So police arrested them immediately
and they were on a two million dollar bond. Now let's take a break, a short break. I honestly don't

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We now resume our regularly scheduled program. So a little while goes by and a manager of a pawn shop
comes forward and lets police know that Jessica and Blaine on December 2nd had come to his pawn shop

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and pawned an electric chainsaw. They told her it was quote for money to pay a priest.
Then investigators went and searched the trailer. They found blood stained bedding. They found
blood splatter all over the room. Baby clothes, dirty diapers and wipes. On December 13, Blaine
sister Teresa went and visited him in jail. And when she came back she told her aunt that quote she was

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"needing to find a way to get back out to the trailer in Tatum" because quote Blaine had told her
that she needed to go out there to the trailer to get some evidence out from underneath it.
So the aunt being the OG that she was immediately called 911 because Teresa what in all the
F's were you freaking thinking that you were just gonna go get some evidence after this little baby

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was killed by your brother. You were going to protect him? Are you kidding me? So the aunt wasn't
like that. She called the police immediately and told them that quote they needed to get out to
the trailer immediately that Teresa wanted to go out there and get some evidence from underneath
the trailer. So the police obtained a search warrant and they went under the trailer where the aunt

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told them and under the trailer they found a clear plastic bag and inside that plastic bag they
found a pipe wrench coated with astroglide. So astroglide was the same lubricant that the medical
examiner had found in a more as bloody diaper and they came to the conclusion that Blaine had hit

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this pipe wrench under the trailer because this was used to cause quote the extensive injuries to
the genitals and this is what ripped them up so badly. So they took it to forensics and forensics
revealed that the components of the astroglide on the pipe wrench and the components of the astroglide
in the diaper that Amora had been wearing and remember I said they collected diaper and wipes.

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So it was a dirty diaper and dirty wipes. So they found that the astroglide on those were all the same
thing. So basically now they had a confession they had part of the weapons I'm not going to say the
murder weapon because we don't know if this is what killed her but still it's still evidence. They
had all of her dirty clothes with all that blood splatter and astroglide on it and they saw all

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the evidence in the room everything. So of course they went to trial. The trial started in May of 2010
and it was actually moved out of their little town and moved to Conroe because of pre-trial publicity.
Judge Jay Clay Gossett presided over the case. District Attorney Michael Jemerson and
state assistant attorney general Lisa Tanner called several witnesses including the medical

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examiner to the stand. Now Blaine's attorney completely blamed all of this on Jessica. He said
Jessica was mentally ill and she was responsible for the child's death. Once again still waiting on an
attorney that I could speak with who knows your client is guilty. This dude brutally murdered a

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13 month old for 30 hours doing horrible things to her. You know he's guilty. Everything points to him
but in your little lawyer brain you just want to win a case and so you decide to blame it on the
mother just so you could win a case. Don't want to have an interview with one of y'all. Not saying all
lawyers are like this. I'm just saying these specific ones. Another person who was called to the

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stand was Heather Carson which was Jessica's mom and she testified about Jessica's demeanor how it
changed from her moving out of her in her brother's house to moving in with Blaine. She said quote her
daughter had become quiet, subdued and stopped taking care of her personal appearance. She also said
her daughter had stopped talking to her in her brother and she hadn't heard from them since

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November 2008 and that was because she had gone to visit them at their apartment and that was the
last time she saw the baby. So when she was asked if Jessica had experienced post-partum depression
she had said no her daughter had been a good mother quote she did everything for Amora. She also
emphasized that Jessica's demeanor never changed until she moved in with Blaine in August of 2008

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and that really concerned her. They also brought some of her friends to the stand like Lisa Taylor
and she also testified that Jessica was an amazing mom before but after she moved in with Blaine she
was acting quote a little weird. She also said that at one point in time in November 2008 Jessica, Amora

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and Blaine had stayed with them for a little while. They had actually planned to move to Alabama and
she had agreed to help them find jobs and a place to live but after four days they just literally just
up and left and went back to Texas. She also said that while they were at her house she witnessed
that it was Blaine taking care of Amora and for some reason Jessica didn't take care of her at all.

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Now this came out in the investigation but it was also revealed during the trial that Blaine
was actually not supposed to be around any children that weren't his biological children because of
some previous crimes that he had on his record. For instance he had gotten in trouble for breaking

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into a house and he had walked into the bedroom of a 13 year old girl and he went through the girls
underwear draw. Then he cut out pictures of an adult magazine and wrote notes on how he wanted to
perform sexually in decent acts with this girl. For this he was charged with second degree felony
and criminal solicitation of a minor and sentenced to 180 days in jail. He was also told to register

(25:04):
as a sex offender. Now he ended up not spending the entire 180 days in jail and once he got out he
never registered as a sex offender. Now how does this work? Aren't you supposed to once they get
out aren't you supposed to check on that to make sure that they did register as a sex offender? That's
interesting. I thought that was like part of people's probation that they're required to register

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as a sex offender. I guess they're probation officer or somebody is supposed to check and make
sure that they did. You don't just leave it up to the sex offender say hey Billy you need to register
as a sex offender and I trust you. I don't I don't think that's how that works. On day three of the
trial this is when the medical examiner testified. In his testimony he said that Amora endured

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inexplicable pain in the last hours of her life. Her injuries were so extensive and severe that he
said they were the worst he's ever seen inflicted on a child in his entire career. Quote this particular
body was I guess shocking is the word that comes to mind. This medical examiner's name was Dr. Keith

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Pincard and he was the forensic pathologist at the Southwest Institute of forensic sciences in Dallas
so you know he's seen a lot. He said all of her injuries happened while she was alive and some were
hours old. He testified about the bite marks all over her body from head to toe from back to front

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and he said the marks were consistent with a human tooth tearing the skin. A forensic dentist came
in and also confirmed that the bites were human. Now all they had to do was take Blaine's dental
records and match it to the bite and then look at his stupid ass lawyer and ask them again tell me how
it was Jessica and not Blaine like literally that's all you had to do. Dr. Pincard also testified that

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like I told you she had 18 rib fractures she also had multiple fractures on the back of her head. She
had extensive bleeding under her scalp. The lacerated liver that I told you about she had a broken arm,
a broken leg and a bleeding blood vessel in her neck which he explained to the court meant that
that's a sign of strangulation so I'm saying it's a possible strangulation not definitely. He said

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all of her injuries were from blunt force trauma but he couldn't figure out what object was used to
cause this blunt force trauma but he told the court that a couple of things jumped out of him about
a moris body. He said that her face was covered with scrapes and cuts quote to the point that the
abrasions were all touching each other meaning when he looked at her face it looked like it was just

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one huge bruise but it was so many different ones that it made it look like one huge injury
and he also said that her genital areas was just one big hole it weren't two separate holes any longer
and he said she was sexually assaulted quote I've never seen anything like it and so when they

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asked him if it could be caused by male penetration he said it was more than likely caused by an
object quote were you able to tell what injury caused the death? No there were so many injuries
present but he said on his report he did list the cause of death as homicidal violence during the
trial and during Dr. pin cards testimony they also had photos of a moris injuries so as he's talking

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he's pointing out the autopsy photos for the jurors and the court to see and you can see that this
really really bothered the jurors I can't even imagine I'm just relaying the case without these
kind of pictures and it's bothering me even recording this episode I've been taken breaks and I go
look at my social media and then I come back to recording it I really I it's just hard one of the male

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jurors put his head down and covered his eyes you can see some of the jurors crying but Jessica never
even looked at the pictures herself she never even turned her head to look at the pictures the next
person that came to the stand was Dr. Patricia Rosen who is a medical toxicologist she's
said the toxicology report showed that blame had point one seven milligrams of meth per liter of blood

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in his system and then Pauler Ludberg love came in and she's an expert in pharmacology and she
testified that meth users experience paranoia and hallucinations because of the drug so she said
that it's possible that both Jessica and blame quote started believe in their redeemants that were

(29:57):
changing the facial structures of their child these kinds of abnormalities could be maybe related
to the abnormal behavior in meth users and she said hearing meth with Jessica state of mine which
according to a doctor Frank Murphy she was in a psychotic depression so have that paired with meth

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use and it's easier for the court to believe or it's easier for the doctors to believe that she
was really quote hearing the demon growl according to Dr. Murphy before she even started using meth it
appears that Jessica developed this depression and it was probably because of being in this kind of
relationship where this guy was really controlling of her and she wasn't even allowed to leave the

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house unless she was with him or sit in network watching him or he always with him so she became
very depressed that depression turned into a psychotic depression and then she started using meth
and even with the psychotic depression the doctor says that more than likely she would have began to
hallucinate and lose touch with reality and then on top of that other doctor explained what meth

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does so that's even more hallucinations so with Jessica it was more to the point of a psychotic break
and drugs so then amoras grandfather and her father side rich had mutina addressed blame in his
victims impact statement quote no matter what punishment you receive you will not suffer the way
my granddaughter did I don't hate you I hate the acts you committed you're getting off easy compared

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to what amora got and I think I said the amoras father's name was Arlene I meant Arlen sorry judge
glasses told him quote it wasn't easy to go through our appreciation for you cannot be overstated
if jury duty fails then our justice system fails this is what he said to well he started off talking to
Richard and then he finished off speaking with the jurors he also offered to pay the jurors for

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counseling services if they needed it quote about what you've seen and heard for this case in closed
and arguments district attorney Michael jimerson told jurors that this is quote amoras stories not
Jessica's it's not about how tough Jessica Carson had it amora can be more than a blood source
object and while he was doing his clothes and arguments he had a picture of amoras body that was

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at the autopsy so you could see exactly how badly she was beaten he then during his clothes and
arguments switched to a picture taken sometime before december 2nd 2008 that showed her looking like
a regular child happy uninjured laying on the floor pushing herself up with a huge smile on her face
he also told the jurors do not forget about all the injuries she had for those 30 hours he

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reminded the jurors about the testimony by the medical examiners by the toxic toxicologist by the
forensic scientist all of this he reminded them about the 24 bite marks he said that it came from
blame he reminded them about the evidence and he closed out saying quote once again it's the way

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amoras telling her story quote blame Keith meland did all these things with the intent to hurt amora
blame meland is a monster he deserves the ultimate penalty but he is a monster that Carson brought
into the baby's life is Carson Jessica just as responsible yes did she have a legal duty to protect

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amora oh my god did she ever so the prosecution they didn't try to deny that blame did it they didn't
really come out and say it but their whole thing was about blaming it on Jessica Jessica's the one
that brought brought blame into the house Jessica's the one that didn't help her daughter it's all
Jessica's fault yeah he might have done it but Jessica's fault so Jessica's defense team her attorney

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Don killingsworth which his last name is killingsworth I don't know if that's only ironic to me but
Don killingsworth said that Jessica was under the control of blame and blame wasn't even amoras
father quote blame meland started to treat Carson badly you heard evidence of that for her to be

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guilty of capital murder you would have to find it was her conscious objective for amora to die
and that's not there you're required to find beyond a reasonable doubt that Jessica
Bain Carson was a party to the death of her own daughter the one thing we are starting about is
blame meland killed amora Carson so after seven days of testimony and more than three hours of

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closing arguments it took the jury 90 minutes to find Jessica Bain Carson guilty of capital murder
and that carries an automatic life sentence without a chance of parole on April 13 2011 this is when
Jessica was convicted of torturing and killing her daughter and she was sentenced to like I said

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life in prison blame was also convicted of killing amora and he was sentenced to death on
May 27 2011 so on February 1 2013 Jessica's lawyer appealed the decision based on the jury not
submitting any lesser offenses but the judge said no because the error of them not submitted lesser

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offenses was ruled as harmless because of the capital murder conviction her attorney also argued
that she was quote entitled to a jury instruction on mistake of fact because she mistakenly
believed that meland would not harm amora and said that the evidence was insufficient to say that
she did believe that he would harm amora the judge again said no they came back with another

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appeal saying quote life without parole was cruel and unusual punishment under the eighth amendment
because of Carson's youth the judge said look stop wasting my time it's no it's just a no it's a no
everything you bring forward is gonna be a no stop it on January 11 2019 blame was granted a stay
he was literally supposed to be executed on January 12 2019 so the appeals granted the stay

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and remanded the case to trial court in this trial court blame in his attorney disputed the
bite mark testimony they said that the evidence was the key to his trial and the prosecution
attributed several bite marks to blame his attorneys also claim that he can't be executed because he's
intellectually disabled so then they ordered an intellectual disability hearing as of today

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blame is still on polonsky death row still getting stays of execution for some reason he has a lawyer
that continues to I mean I don't want to say for some reason for money he has a lawyer that continues
to work for him and not let him go through the execution his mother thinks it's not his fault

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according to her her son was quote pulled out of school in the fourth grade and so because he
was pulled out of school in the fourth grade his brain stopped developing in the fourth grade
ma'am that's not how that works at all not even a little bit and apparently he has multiple
supporters saying that this wasn't his fault I believe it was both of their faults maybe he did have

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some kind of mental issues I don't think his brain stopped working at 12 I think he was doing drugs
yeah and clearly his mother who's saying that oh it's not his fault is also to blame because she
wasn't watching her kid while he was out drinking and doing hard liquor and drugs by 16 years old

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so his brain could have been damaged you know your brain is growing at 16 15 14 13 your brain is
still growing and then you're putting drugs in your brain so yeah he could have had some brain damage
but I more think that it wasn't just that he seems like a very domineering overbearing person
and maybe he just didn't want the kid there I don't know I don't know maybe he was hallucinating either

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way the factor the matter is he was doing drugs if you have a kid in your house supposedly
at you quote unquote love you stop doing drugs or you give the kid away to a safe home that's just it
so I'm not giving excuses with Jessica she could have grabbed her baby and left home back to her
mom's house once she figured out what kind of person this person was you need to think of your child
first so before you even fell into this depression you could have picked up your baby and gone back to

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your mom's house where everything was so much better for you I know I'm supposed to remain biased
I know I'm supposed to listen to both sides I know I'm supposed to have an open mind
but in reality f all that did you hear what happened to the baby am I supposed to sit here and
think about the adults now no I'm thinking about what happened to that poor 13 month old baby

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for 30 hours so no absolutely not I couldn't be in the legal profession at all as you can
clearly see so I guess the poll for this episode is do you agree that it's somehow not blaine's fault
do you agree that it's not Jessica's fault do you agree that it was just a psychosis or for

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blaine it was just a mental issues his brain stopped working at four at 12 because he was taken out
of school is on bullshit I don't know we'll just say do you think the blame should be only on blaine
do you think it should be only on Jessica or do you think it should be placed on both of them

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if I'm able to I'll even put none in there so you'll have four option blaine Jessica both are none
now if you don't think the blame will be on blaine or Jessica so literally I'm telling you you
should pick both but obviously it's your choice but if somehow you choose none then I don't agree
if you I was gonna say something else but you know it's a podcast so I won't say that but I don't

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agree if you and if that makes you angry then so be it but it is both of their faults and for the
lawyer and his mom protecting him scream both so that is my poll for you I don't have any emojis
to add today because I can't I can't I just I can't wrap my head around emojis today I just can't

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so you can either take the poll I'll also put the poll question on my Instagram love murder podcasts
so you can look at that and speaking of polls let's go through some of your comments from the last
episode so the last episode was exploring the evidence the case of the next day family murders
so the question that I had for the poll was do you think that chase was responsible for these

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murders and 100% of y'all said yes the option was yes or no not enough evidence and all they all
chose yes now I didn't read off your comments for the end of season three because remember I took
December off so bit by bit I want to go back and read them all because I do want to you know I love
talking to y'all and engaging with y'all so this one is from a love money and murder a horrendous

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case of parental homicide the joe guy junior case that was episode 123 that was done on November 27th
the poll question was do you believe juniors argument that enter in his parents house without a
warrant was illegal or do you think it was justified if you remember the police went into his parents
house they didn't have a warrant he tried to play that in court and so that was my question the

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choices I gave was it was illegal or the police were justified and 62 and a half percent of y'all
said it was justified in 37 and a half percent of y'all said it was illegal then I just asked the
general questions of what did you think about this episode and Cindy Hawke said that it was an
awesome episode miss Shay 2015 said I just found you new subby welcome miss Shay thank you for joining us

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I really hope you don't unsub for me because of this episode which was a really really hard case
but thank you for joining LaM monette hurley said I love you I'm thinking the same thing this guy is
trash thank you and monette I hope you're thinking the same thing as me on this episode that both
Jessica and Blaine are also trash and everybody who's supporting them and giving them excuses are

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also pieces of trash so mone let me know if you agree with me and also before I go mone miss Shay
Cindy Hawke and all the rest of my lambs don't forget that an easy and free way to help lamb out is
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am going to go chill with my child and try any race this from my head before I have to go back and
edit it and hear it all over again hey lamb before you go please please do me a favor and don't

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