Talkline | Dec. 3, 2025

Dave & TJ discuss the art of asking the question and why asking questions is considered to be criticism. Leann Ray, of WV Watch, says the governor has fumbled the response to the DC shooting. New Senate Judiciary Committee Chair Tom Willis joins the show and Howard Monroe stops by. 

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to get to today. Tom willis the Senator from Berkeley
County named Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman. We'll join us at
the bottom of the hour. Bryan Schmells Fox News Radio
second hour, Howard Monroe, friend from Wheeling, will drop by

(01:53):
as well. And the arts of asking the question. We'll
get into that topic in the second hour of the
show this morning, but first say good morning TJ. Meadows
in Charleston. Good morning, sir.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
The art of asking the question is that your new
book is it out yet?

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I'm working on that publication pending. I'm shopping that around.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Would it shock you that I have been accused of
being too blunt? Would that shock you blunt? What about blunnything?
I'm just too blunt?

Speaker 5 (02:23):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
I don't you know I'm too blunt. Don't I don't
sugarcoat it enough. I don't ease into it. No, that
doesn't shock me tremendously. I was always accused of that,
especially my business career, but I was just spit it out.
That way we can deal with it.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Just spit it out and we will deal with it.
The art of asking the question, if you want to
do a little homework first, go to wv metro news
dot com. TJ. Meadows has a commentary this morning about
the art of asking the question whether or not it
is patriotic to ask questions. All right, you've got my interest.
I read it this morning. You should too. We'll talk

(02:58):
about it coming up at eleven o six. The gunman
who shot two members of the West Virginia National Guard
in Washington, d C. Last week has been charged with
one count of murder, two counts of assault with intent
to kill, an account of possession of the firearm during
a violent crime. He pled not guilty yesterday. Questions continued
to be asked about the Guard's mission in DC and

(03:20):
the Governor's handling of that situation. Leanne Ray posted commentary
yesterday at West Virginia Watch making the case the Governor
Morrisses fumbled the tragedy from his first post on social
media on joining us on loan from West Virginia Watch
this morning, joining us in the Charleston studio lean Ray, Leanne,
good morning, good morning. Appreciate you stopping by so you

(03:42):
make the point in your column. The Governor Morrissey's initial
post on x reporting that two Guard members had died
got twenty two million some or two yeah, six point
seven million views. Can't read mo own handwriting. The next
tweet that corrected that got two point two million. And
that's the tone for what you describe as a lackluster

(04:03):
response to this entire tragedy. Take it from there.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
Yeah, you know, I'm sorry. I'm print journalism. I don't
know what I'm doing about.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
I didn't tell you. I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
Yeah. So, for those who don't know, I'm part of
West Virginia. Watch is part of State's Newsroom, where a
network across the US. We have thirty nine newsrooms that
are our own. So we're following, uh, the Governor's tweets
and I'm trying to update our DC bureau at the time.
They say that two National Guards members had been shot.

(04:39):
So we see the governor say, oh, it's West Virginia.
He's the first Purtason to say it. So I tell
our DC bureau, I'm like, hey, our governor has confirmed
they're from West Virginia, and I believe us. First tweets
said one was injured, one was dead, and then he
came back with the second tweet saying that both were dead.
Sorry his post it's no longer Twitter, so I'm trying

(04:59):
to update or DC Bureau, they're trying to update the stories,
and then we see maybe twenty minutes later, oh, you know,
I've had some kind of miscommunication here. He's never explained
what the miscommunication was. And you know, as a journalist,
we have to be so careful when we hear breaking
news like that. We can't just base it on you know,
someone told us this. We have to make sure it's

(05:21):
somebody who has the authority to tell us this, like
the governor. So the information given to the governor should
have been the correct information. And we still don't know
at this point how he got that information so wrong.
And I mean, honestly, I don't think he should have
rushed to post it online to tell people. Maybe he

(05:42):
should have given it a little bit. We almost wondered
if maybe they told him and maybe they hadn't told
the families yet and he had to go back on it.
That we know now that wasn't the case, but it
was just it was handled so poorly, Like you can't
just go out and say these two people have died
and then be like, you know, JK, I got the

(06:02):
wrong information. That's that's so scary and just it's journalism
one oh one.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
You know, So a couple of things on that to
your point. Many outlets, not just yours, picked it up. Yeah,
New York Times, Wall Street Journal, NBC, ABC, all the networks, Politico, Fox,
our Fox connections out of DC called me said, Hey,
what's going on.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
I said, yep, He's got it here.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
It is. It's right on his his ex post. You
talk about journalism one oh one. He's not a journalist, right,
Does he deserve our grace in this situation.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
Well, he is a lawyer, so he should also know
to be careful when sharing information. And he's not. One
hundred percent. We still don't know who the source was
who gave that information. Someone did ask Mondayta's press conference
about it, and we just kind of got another answer
of him running around it. I mean, I don't know
what I'm expecting. Uh, it's easy to go, you know what.

(06:57):
I'm sorry, I messed up. I'll learn from this be
a little bit more careful in the future.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Leanne Ray joining us from West Virginia Watch. You can
read her commentary over to Western you Watch dot com.
So the broader scope, though Hoppy talked about this on Monday,
the governor taking responsibility. No, we're not not laying blame
for what happened, but taking responsibility. And I've been thinking
about that for a couple of days and I read

(07:24):
your commentary, so I wanted to ask this question to you.
What does that look like in your mind? Taking taking responsibility?
What does that actually mean?

Speaker 6 (07:34):
Well, you know, he did not have to send the
guard to DC. There were only what was it five
or six states who ended up sending guard members there.
We were one of them. We sent the most amount
of guard members of any of the states, even though
we're the smallest state. He could he could just honestly say,

(07:55):
you know, I did send them. There was the result
they I understand. If I didn't send them that these
two members, they would be Okay. Someone may have still
been shot. They may have not been from West Virginia.
I mean, obviously he didn't pull the trigger, but he
was the one responsible for sending them there on a

(08:15):
mission that it mostly seems like they're just cleaning up Washington, DC,
walking around doing patrols, many unarmed. I guess maybe to
deter people because there's a high presence of National Guard members.
But he could just say, you know, I understand I
sent them, so part of this is on me. It's

(08:37):
not fully his fault, but just saying I sent them.
So I did play a part in this, and I'm sorry,
And I'll all think about this in the future when
perhaps Trump wants to send National Guard members to somewhere
else that he thinks is a high crime area.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
This is what the governor posted on Facebook. You note
this in your piece. He did it over the holiday weekend.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Quote.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
If you are not all in for the West Virginia
guardsmen who defended our nation's capital city, who did nothing
but protect DC from crime, then you are the problem.
Our guardsmen, we're brave and have done everything to defend
your freedoms and protect the HOMELANMN from evildoers. Can we
at least unite against cold blooded murder? Or is that
too much? Or is that too much paraphrasing too much

(09:22):
to ask? What goes through your mind when you read
that quote from the governor.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
It seems like he just doesn't want the blame on him.
I think it's possible you can support our guard members,
but you can also not support the mission of going
to DC. You know our Guards members that these are
people who have full time jobs and they have to
leave those jobs to go do these missions. They've been
in DC for months doing you know, we're not even

(09:47):
I don't know if we're one hundred percent sure what
all of our guards members have been doing this whole time.
But it's just you. It's like he doesn't want to
be questioned and he doesn't want to be put at
fault because he's said many times now, you know, these
people volunteered to be in DC, and that to me
is just trying to get the blame off him. And
I know people online especially have been putting heat on

(10:09):
him for this, and people are saying there's blood on
his hands, but I mean, he's not the one who
shot them, he's the one who sent them. He does
have a little bit of responsibility and he doesn't want
any Let.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Me flip that around, Leanne, I think you can also
support the mission. I think it's also possible for the
governor to stand by his decision and at the same
time say it was my call to send them, it
was my call to support the President's mentioned. I believe
in that mission, and I know this is a terrible comparison.
I use it on Monday, I'll use it again. It's

(10:43):
like what a football coach makes a bad decision. He
stands at the podium, he takes responsibility. That was my
decision to go for it on fourth down. We didn't
get it to cost this game. That's on me again.
Terrible decision. Not trying to make light of tragedy, but
just using the leadership comparison. That's leadership. You can support
the mission, you can support the troops. You can say

(11:04):
that this was absolutely the right decision, but also take
responsibility for that. And I think that's where there's some
consensus that is lacking in this entire situation.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
Oh yeah, I agree it completely. He can totally say,
you know, that was my decision. I stand by it.
I do still think it's important that we were there.
I think, you know, this is what we've done. I
think I've seen some things saying that crime has been down.
I don't know for sure about that, but like you said,

(11:37):
I think he can stand by it and say I
hate that this happened, but I you know, I did
send them and I do believe in it.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Talk to me about the pushback that I imagine you
have gotten on this piece, because I'm sure there are
some folks who have said, how dare you? How dare
you write this? This is this is a mission to
try to make DC safe. I wrote in a commentary

(12:03):
back when this got going, as long as it stayed
in d C. I'm not in favor of the Garden
of the Cities, but I think DC is different. It's
a federalized city. I think we can use troops there
to some degree. I don't think they should be picking
up trash. I also think they should be properly equipped
for what we're asking them to do. That said, talk
about some of this pushback again that I imagine you've

(12:24):
probably gotten for writing this piece.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
Actually, shockingly, I haven't gotten any.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Really.

Speaker 6 (12:28):
Yeah, I've gotten terrible mean emails in the past about
my commentary, but nothing on this piece so far.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
And TJ. This goes back to the piece you wrote
this morning about asking questions and the perception that just
because you pose a question asking for clarification about the mission,
what exactly was the Guard's role, how were they equipped
seeking information? That does not mean you are That's not criticism,

(12:57):
that's not opposition, that's trying to get information about a
situation that we don't have information on. And to your point,
Leanne and to the Governor's post, there, questions aren't opposition.
Questions aren't necessarily critics. They could lead to criticism later
when you get answers or lack thereof, But questions are
about getting information out there, and we still don't have

(13:19):
great clarificational exactly what the mission was, what the Guard's
authority was, were they properly, what were they equipped, what
were they authorized to do? Those questions are still out there,
and again that ties back into what you wrote this morning,
TJ about asking the question thoughts. Sorry, that was more
of a statement of their question, and I thought it

(13:41):
tied into your commentary nicely.

Speaker 7 (13:42):
It did.

Speaker 6 (13:44):
Yeah, I mean that's what we're here to do. We're
here to ask questions. We're here to find out a
little bit more about it. Once the guard was sent,
we kind of got a very vague statement, Well was
it they're there to help?

Speaker 8 (13:57):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (13:58):
I can't even remember now, honestly. And that's what kind
of Monday's conference was. The press was there, local press
was there, and people were asking, you know, what were
they meant to do? And I know our reporter got
an email from the Governor's office afterward, and a couple
other reporters did as well, trying to say they weren't
just there doing beautification. Well they were. You're saying they

(14:20):
weren't just there, they were doing other things. Well, tell
us you can't just tell us what the mission was.
Please tell us exactly what were they doing these obviously
these aren't top secret missions. They're out there in the
public doing something. Just tell us what are they doing.
You know, the West Virginia Guard, they're not getting special treatment.
It's not like they're like, oh, West Virginia Guard that
would know beautification for them, We're going to have them

(14:41):
do help with crime. Just let us know what are
some of the things that they're doing.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Take your commentary hat off for a second, put your
reporter cap on when you look at this TikTok here
that you go into your piece shooting. Around two fifteen Wednesday,
Dave talked about the posts and the stats. So at
three thirty three, the governor posted on x that one
Guard member had died, just refreshing memories here. Three forty two,
he posted that both were dead. At four o four

(15:09):
he rescinded that due to conflicting reports, as you've investigated this,
maybe you've posted this question because I don't have a
clear answer on it. The two families, the Beckstrom family
and the Wolf family, were they notified before these posts
went out?

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Do we know whether or not?

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Because it seems like a very tight time frame that
you would be able to notify them before. And then
when you put this out without names, I mean, you've
got what one hundred and sixty guardsmen up there or
I think is it my guardsmen?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Is it my guardsmen?

Speaker 4 (15:41):
People are just kind of curious if the families and
other guardsmen's families were consulted and people knew before this.

Speaker 6 (15:48):
Just went out that we talked about that in our newsroom.
We're not sure, and we wondered if maybe he had
gone back after saying that they were both dead, maybe
they hadn't. Maybe they were and maybe they hadn't or
to the family and he had to kind of step
back on it, and like I said, that's obviously that
wasn't the case at that point. I don't know how
soon it is that they would have alerted the family.

(16:12):
And that's the thing about just announcing it, like that
you have to wait till the family knows before you
announce it publicly. And I just we don't know that timeline,
and I don't know if full if we ever will.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Leanne Ray from West Virginia Watch. You can read your
commentary over at West Virginia Watch dot com. Leanne appreciate it.
Thanks for stopping by this morning.

Speaker 6 (16:33):
Yeah, thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
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I believe it was Trent Dilfer, the former Ravens Buccaneers quarterback.
He said, you can't win in the NFL by losing,
but I think you can in politics. Fox News Ryan,
Fox News Radio is Ryan Schmells joins us Ryan. Last
night Republicans won that seat in the special election for
that congressional seat in Tennessee. But but Democrats performed well

(18:25):
and they're taking that as a good sign.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
Good morning, Ryan, Good morning. And Trent delpher also learned
that you can't win in college football by lea like.
He is now no longer uav as head coach. But
I love Trent did a great job for the Ravens
winning a Super Bowl. But yeah, didn't work out, did
not work.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Out, But Democrats still feeling good this morning, even though
they did not win that seat in Tennessee.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
There's definitely a lot of reasons for Republicans still concerned.
You know, you talked to Republicans, they'll they'll they'll point
out a number of things. Number one to the nine
point loss for at Apton Dame despite a number of
things working against her. Number one to say district that
President Trump won, but over twenty points. She was considered

(19:12):
to be a more progressive candidate in a deep red
district who had said some unflattering things about Nashville and
about country music, and she still was able to come
within nine points. And keep in mind Matt van Epster,
Republican new One, was considered to be a pretty strong candidate.
So there's a number of reasons that Republicans might be
concerned after this and why Democrats might be feeling some optimism.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Ran I want to read a quote to you from
a piece I read. This is quoting an unnamed Republican
that spoke needed anonymity to be able to say this
said tonight is a sign that twenty twenty six is
going to be a blank of an election cycle. Republicans
can survive if we play team and the Trump administration
officials play smart. Neither is certain. That's really what it

(19:57):
comes down to, right, I mean, here's the pre court
of cursor, here's the warning. Can you adapt by the
mid terms to be able to change public perception?

Speaker 11 (20:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (20:06):
And I think a lot of the Republicans I've heard
from will tell you that the key to the midterms
is going to be addressing the issue that Democrats are
winning on right now, which is talking about affordability. You know,
John Mundani made affordability a key part of this campaign.
President Trump has messaged a lot on it since then
the last election cycle. In you know, if America is

(20:28):
more affordable by November of next year, Republicans will probably
stand a better chance of keeping the House in the Senate.
If not, then that could be a problem.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
The general theory. And we'll leave you with about thirty
seconds here, Ryan, Republicans are in trouble in the House.
They're going to keep the Senate. Is there any inclination
that the Senate could be in jeopardy in twenty six.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Maybe, but a lot of the flip opportunities Democrats have,
it just doesn't look like there's enough you know, they've
got they've got made, They've got North Carolina, they where
they have a good chance of flipping there. But then
you know, you look at some of the other states, Ohio, Florida,
that's gonna be a little bit more challenging for Democrats
to pull off, and maybe even Texas too. But then
you also have some other seats that Democrats are trying

(21:11):
to avoid flipping, like Michigan, New Hampshire and some states
like that where they no longer have the incumbent. So
this is definitely gonna be a challenge for Democrats to
flip the Senate.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Fox News Radios Ryan Schmells from DC always appreciate it, Ryan,
thanks for checking in.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
Well, of course, thank you.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Coming up, we're going to talk to Tom Willis, Berkeley
County Senator and the new Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Later on second hour, Howard Monroe. We'll stop by three
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Speaker 12 (21:55):
West Virginia Metro News. I'm Jeff Chienkins testimony today before
the West Virginia Air Quality Board an appeal hearing. Groups
want the board to overturn a decision from the state
dep that opens the door for a power plant for
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the West Virginia Highlands Conservancy in Sierra Club protested outside

(22:16):
of DP headquarters in Charleston. There's now a resolution in
the US Senate to honor members of the Westervirgian National
Guard Andrew Wooffe and Sarah Baxtrom. They were shot a
week ago today while patrolling on the streets of Washington,
d C. You are center, Jim Justice, calling on the
tragedy to change attitudes in America today.

Speaker 7 (22:34):
The name or names are Sarah and Andrew in America.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Please let's not gloss over.

Speaker 13 (22:46):
Let's absolutely let them have the opportunity to be a change,
a change of who we are.

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Meanwhile, today's a somber anniversary in the Charleston Police Department's
been five years since the death of Cassie Johnson, the
officer was shot and killed while on duty. Charleston Police
Chief Scott Dempsey says, what happens shows again there's no
routine call.

Speaker 7 (23:05):
That's all it was was a simple parking complaint, and
she found out where the driver was. He was in
a house not far away from the car, and she
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Talk is the phone number. We'll get some texts, maybe
some calls coming up in the next segment. Yesterday, in fact,

(25:51):
we reported the news. I don't know if we were
reporting much. We got a press release that told us
the news that Senator Tom Willis, the Republican from Berkeley County,
will serve as the Judiciary Committee chairman. I had previously
served as the vice chair for that committee and the
last regular legislative session. Joining us on Metion News talk
Line this morning is the Senator from Berkeley County, Tom Will,

(26:12):
a senator. Good morning, Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 18 (26:15):
Good morning, gentlemen, great to be with you.

Speaker 19 (26:17):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Appreciate your stopping buy So what interested you in being
chairman of what is one of the most important committees
in the Senate.

Speaker 18 (26:27):
Well, like you said, I was a vice chairman previously
and not a position that you know, I strived for,
struggled for. The Senate President called me and asked me
to step up and serve, and you know, I have
a sense of duty, and so when the Senate President
asks you to serve the state, I think the correct
answer is going to have to be yes. I'll step
up and serve. And I've taken an oath when I

(26:50):
became a Senator to do my best to serve the
people of West Virginia. And that's an oath I take seriously,
and so I plan to work hard, do my best,
same as it did as Vice chair I'll do the
same as the chairman.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Now, Tom, congratulations on your appointment, sir. I appreciate you
joining us this morning. Talk to us about what you
want to do in terms of your legislative agenda as
chairman of that committee. As they've alluded to, it's a
very powerful chairmanship. Most legislation of it is critical or controversial,
runs through your committee, or at least touches it at

(27:23):
some point. I'm curious where you may want to go
and what agenda you may want to put in places. Chair.

Speaker 18 (27:30):
Yeah, it's a way to responsibility, and I agree with you.
There a large percentage of the bills that will come
through the Senate will go through the judiciary, of course,
so some of my priorities. Really it comes down to
I'm a West Virginia business owner and I have a
real passion for helping West Virginia business owners. It's personal

(27:52):
to me. I've spent a lot of time on Friday nights,
Saturday nights working to comply with different regulations or reporting requirements,
different forms. So I feel the pain viscerally when a
lot of my friends are out at a barbecues, are
watching games, I'm trying to keep up with the administrative
side of my business or businesses now, uh, you know,

(28:14):
to comply with state laws. So that's economic prosperity and
freedom is really important to me. I want to make
West Virginia the number one most business friendly state in
the country. Some of the more specifics on that, you know.
I used to work for the world's largest law firm
in Washington, DC, and we would have clients that were
multinational firms that would hire us to figure out where,

(28:38):
for instance, in Europe or Asia they should set up
a manufacturing plant or a satellite office and that sort
of thing. So I've been on the other side of
the of the equation, and I know what they're looking for,
and this is, you know, their as their business attorney
at the time. We would look at tax structure, tax incentives.

(28:59):
We would look at employment law. We would look at
contract law and intricacies involved in that area. We would
look at property rights, we would look at the judicial system.
So all of those things are fair game for this
next session. And I'll tell you just you know, just
give you a specific example. I heard some complaints recently

(29:21):
about our state independent contractor law, so I took a
deep dive into the code and looked at what some
of the independent contractor rules were and how they compared
with neighboring states. For instance, Virginia, one of our neighbors,
their top ten ranked business state in the country, and
their laws on the books are a little bit more
business friendly in some areas, and I think in this

(29:43):
area in particular. So I went through there were some ambiguities.
There's some things like how much control an employer can
exercise over an independent contractor before they become an employee.
And look, businesses need clarity. Businesses are allergic to ambiguity,
and so so one of my goals is to go
through the code and provide clarity where we can, and

(30:05):
to cut regulations where we can, cut time that we
take from businesses to comply with the law. And this
is a debate, This is a fight I got into
frequently last session, frequently behind closed doors, so it wasn't
necessarily in the public view. But I would really stand
up to my colleagues anytime they talked about passing the

(30:26):
law that would require time from West Virginians and especially
West Virginia business owners. That's a form of taxation. Whenever
you're requiring time to comply with the law from someone,
that's a form of taxation. And I'm going to stand
against that every single time.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Tom Willis is joining US Berkeley County Center was named
Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman. Tom also has served as green
Bray in the West Virginia National Guard. Tom, I wanted
to get your take. Certainly, there has been a lot
of focus on the National Guard, and in particular obviously
the deployment to Washington, d C. What the mission was,

(31:01):
what their role should be, should not be from your perspective,
what makes a successful mission. Is it having clarity and
an objective?

Speaker 4 (31:13):
Is it.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Knowing exactly what you can and cannot do? What makes
for a successful mission when you are assigned to whatever
the assignment may be.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Yep.

Speaker 18 (31:24):
So I just want to clarify for you know, all
of our listeners out there. I'm speaking on behalf of
you know, Tom Willis, you know, state senator or candidate
for US Senate, not on behalf of the West Virginia
National Guard, even though I still am a member of
the West Virginia National Guard and have been for the
past twenty five years. But you know, that's a sort
of a general question. So I'm going to refer back

(31:47):
to in general, what makes a successful mission. I really
like the Colon Powd doctrine. Clearly define the mission, go
in with overwhelming force, accomplished the clearly defined mission, and
uh and then withdrawal. And that's you know, in general,
not not speaking specifically about the Guard mission in Washington,

(32:10):
d C. But in general. You asked me a general question.
So in general, that's my view about how a military
mission should operate.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
Have we done everything that we could to give our
guardsmen all of the tools that they need to be
successful in d C.

Speaker 18 (32:29):
Well, we have a long history working with Washington d
C and the West Virginia National Guard. So it's it's
a it's a good working relationship. It's it's a very
viable relationship. Every time we have a professional presidential inauguration,
we have a heavy Westervinia Guard presence supporting the DC
National Guard. Uh, some folks don't realize that West Virginia

(32:52):
National Guard has responsibility for hazardous incidents responses in the
region is in particular Washington d C. So I have
no doubt that our troops were properly equipped for the mission,
just as they have been in the past for past missions.
But you know, when you're getting into specifics, you know,

(33:13):
I did not deploy on that mission, as not part
of the chain of command for that mission. So you know,
if you've got specific questions about specific equipment list items,
that sort of thing, I would have to refer you
to the West Virginia Guard for those types of questions.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah, that's understanding. We're just trying to get tom. We're
just a couple of civilians here and trying to understand
what goes into what goes into planning a mission, what
goes into making certain you have the proper tools to
be everyone wants to be successful. And again I use
bad sports analogies. You got to have a game plan
to go into a ball game. You got to know
what you're going to do in these situations. And we're

(33:47):
trying to understand all of that with regard to this
specific obviously a very specific and very tragic situation that
happened concerning the West Virginia National Guard. And so it's
hard to wrap your civilian brain around tom when you've
never been in those situations.

Speaker 18 (34:00):
Well, I don't know if folks realize that we do
have a military police contingent in the West Virginia National Guard,
and I do know that, uh, you know, some portion
of our Military Police MP units were part of this deployment.
So I have I have zero doubt that our forces
were well prepared. But look, even the most well prepared forces,

(34:23):
you know, when you're subject to a cold hearted, premeditated
ambush like this, where things happen so fast, sometimes no
matter how much preparation you have I have, you know,
special forces brothers you know across the world that when
you're subject to an ambush, you know, no matter how
how sophisticated and prepared you are, how sophisticated your training is. Uh,

(34:45):
there's sometimes you have to deal with the immediate, fast
happening circumstances on the ground, and that's what happened in
this case. And unfortunately you had someone that that obviously
took a lot of time premeditating, someone that never should
have been in the country. This policy to bring in

(35:06):
seventy to one hundred thousand Afghans with little to no
effective vetting with the general statistics that apply to this population.
We're talking about a population. First of all, how many
of them speak English? Most are going to speak Posture
or Dhari. The Statistically the adult population is sixty three

(35:29):
percent illiterate. That's in their home language, that's not in English. Statistically,
they're coming across with a fourth grade equivalent education. Now
we're moving into the Ai economy and we're expecting that
they're going to assimilate without any kind of problems. You know,
this was a foolish policy decision by the Biden administration. Unfortunately,

(35:52):
my Usate opponent, Shelley Moore Capito voted. She was one
of the few Republicans in the US Senate that voted
with Biden on this Afghan resettlement program, and this, this foolish,
dangerous naivt has directly led to the tragedy that we're
talking about right now.

Speaker 20 (36:08):
Tom.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
There were many on the right that said we had
a duty to those Afghans who helped us in the
Afghan War. I'd like to understand what you're feeling is
on that. I know it wasn't everyone in the right,
but there were many at the time of the debate
that said we have a duty to help those who
helped us. What would be your take on that?

Speaker 18 (36:26):
So I think it's a case by case basis. You know,
I'm all in favor if you have an interpreter that's
embedded on your team, that's developed, you know, trusting relationships
with US forces, that's proven that they can operate at
a high level within a US based system. You know,
I'm not opposed to rewarding them and bringing them over.

(36:49):
But remember, just because someone worked for the US government
doesn't mean that we owe them citizenship or a visa.
You know, we contracted with you know, millions of people
made money off of the US government presence in Afghanistan
over the past couple of years. We certainly don't owe
them citizenship or a visa as a result, they were

(37:11):
not helping working for the US government because they were
very fond of our founding fathers and respected our constitutional
republic principles. They were working because they were getting paid,
and it's a transactional deal. It's a fair deal, and
I don't think we have a moral obligation to give
all of them a passport. So I'm not opposed to

(37:33):
one hundred percent ban on immigration for folks that helped us.
You know, we had some very close friends and special
forces that were interpreters on our teams and that sort
of thing. And I understand, you know, there were some
at the embassy. There are some working with the CIA.
You know, we used to live next to some Afghan
immigrants when I was stationed in Washington, d C. Our
kids played together, you know, we had, you know, a

(37:55):
great relationship with this family. My wife is still friends
with them. But mind you, you know, the wife is
wearing a burka. And my point is that we need
to be very careful about the ideologies that we allow
into this country. And if you take a look at
Northern Europe, Western Europe, those countries have fundamentally shifted for
the worse if you look at crime statistics and the

(38:16):
percentage on welfare programs and that sort of thing. When
you bring folks in that are advocates of sharia law
and advocates of overthrowing our Western constitutional republic form of government,
now you've got enemies inside the fence, enemies to our constitution.

(38:36):
And that's what I've been trying to tell people. We
have to have some folks that are courageous enough to
stand up and say, hey, sharia law is inconsistent with
us constitutional republic democracy, and just like communism is. You know,
my wife was an immigrant. I met her on a
military deployment, and when she came in on the visa.

(38:58):
The application. First of all, the paper about this thick.

Speaker 7 (39:00):
To do it legally.

Speaker 18 (39:01):
But one of the interesting things was there was a
few pages on there where they asked us about have
you ever been to a communist meeting? Do you are
you a communist? Do you have communist sympathies? All sorts
of questions about communism and why because communism is fundamentally
inconsistent with our system of government, and the same is

(39:22):
true for sharia law, and we need to be very
careful about screening for these political ideologies that would destroy
our nation once we let them in if they proliferate.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Tom Willis appreciate the perspective. Tom willis named Senate Judiciary
Committee Chairman, so we will be talking many more times
once we get into January and February. Tom appreciate it.
Thanks for stopping by today.

Speaker 18 (39:44):
Thanks a lot, gentlemen, have a great day.

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(42:59):
to its previous guidance TJ that local school boards should
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Speaker 4 (43:23):
I think so, because this is the Supreme Court who
deals with these kinds of appeals, deals with issues like this,
that's what they do. They would not issue a stay
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and have to have some leaning that there will be success,
and the reason for that day is to prevent any
permanent harm. So you have a chance of overcoming the

(44:06):
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that's no guarantee of success.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
But I think it should be pointed out, and at
least in the immediate it calms the waters. We go
back to the previous the policy that was in place.
That's where we're going to operate under until we kind
of get through this entire process. So at least it
calms the waters for the next however long this appeals
process takes with the State Supreme Court. So there's at

(44:34):
least that we can all take a deep breath maybe
or we can hyperventilate and freak out. Either way, you know,
I'm fine with it.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
The question will be does this stay change attitudes in
the legislature and prompt them to want to take the
issue up before February. I think February is the procedural
date when this really kicks in. So does the legislature
want to do something to try to direct the outcome
as opposed to lending the court?

Speaker 7 (45:00):
We will see.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
I haven't heard and let's well, it was on a
break last week.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
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Speaker 1 (45:09):
My guess is at least one chamber does not have
the appetite for no and.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
I think that's still the probably the case. We haven't
had time to digest how this stay may have affected
the waters. We'll see, all.

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actually practice that read DJ not that you could tell
I practice that read because these medical reads always trip
me up. Still still couldn't get it out right.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
Well, that's the reason I didn't become a doctor. I
can't pronounce all that stuff. I just you know, the
science wasn't the problem. It was pronouncing everything. But you know,
people always ask me, why do you always drink coffee?
Those that watch the video streams see I'm always sipping
on my coffee. At least they think it's coffee in here.
I might be Dean Martin. I don't know. And the

(49:41):
reason is I have to because my voice does what
yours just did all the time. If I don't, I
need something warm on my throat. It's that time of year.
I got to be sipping something or else I get
to where.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
It happens, get that frog in your throat. Yeah, yeah,
And it happens the worst time, like when you're trying
to reset the show at the top of the hour.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
Of course it does, because that's just you know, when
it's that's when it's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
So yesterday, toward the end of the show, we touched
on this subject and you said you were going to
write about it, and you did this idea that asking
questions or even just question authority, asking questions, seeking information
is unpatriotic or perceived be about dissent. You weighed in

(50:29):
this morning and said, hey, look it's not. In fact,
it's asking is a patriotic duty. I'm going too far
to say it's a duty, tj oh.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
I think it's entirely a duty. When we live in
a constitutional republic such as ours. There is a reason
the First Amendment exists, and it's not just protection for
the individual from government. It is there to ensure that
people speak up. The founders, in their infinite wisdom, understood

(51:02):
the nature of power and how those that would have it,
even when they are duly elected by the people, would
take that consent of the governed and misuse it. So
they wanted to make sure that the public could not
be silenced. And we are seeing this more and more

(51:23):
on social media, primarily from keyboard Warriors. Dave that I
would argue, just want to put it out there, but
folks are attacked on both ends, from the right from
the left when they dare question any of our leader's stances,
whether that leader is a Republican, Democrat, independent. And we

(51:47):
saw it this morning in some of the text messages
about le Hand's peace when she was how dare she?
How that is what people who are responsible citizens within
a republic do newsplash. The founders did not want me
to explicitly or implicitly trust a leader. They didn't I

(52:08):
think they want us to get along. I think they
would be sad in how we do things today, and
we can get into that part of it in a minute.
But they didn't want us to trust the president, Dave.
They didn't want us to trust our governor. They wanted
us to continue to ask these tough questions. And the
idea that people should be scorned for stepping up and
asking the questions. I have a huge problem with that,

(52:29):
because you're one step away from something really bad when
people can't question their leaders.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
The part of your piece I liked the most was
about four paragraphs in and you wrote, part of today's
challenge is that we have forgotten how to question productively
without shouting, assigning motives or dismissing the person on the
other side or blaming them. And in today's world, to you,
Jay especially, and this is not an old man shouting
at social media, but because social media exists, people's everyone

(53:00):
waking thought, A lot of people's every waking thought is
out there. We know where a lot of people stand
on every single issue, even before there's a lot of
good information to form a strong opinion, whether you support
or oppose an issue, or maybe you're indifferent to an issue,
we know where you are. So when those people, and
I'm talking about politicians, commentators like us for instance, not

(53:24):
necessarily us, but commentators like us, when you already know
what their position is, the questions are not perceived as
general curiosity or perceived as trying to gather information. They're
perceived as driving an agenda. They're perceived as being rhetorical
to get to a conclusion that they have already made
well of that perceptions, right or not, that's the perception

(53:45):
from the person who is being questioned. And if that's
their perception, what do they do tea j They become defensive,
then you start taking shots at the person asking the questions.
We really don't get anywhere So when I was kind
of us half joking tongue and talking about the art
of the question, we maybe need to ask better questions

(54:06):
and let's turn it around. Let's talk about you know, media,
we're media right, Instead of asking why is the National
Guard in Washington, d C? What was the thought process?
What is the mission? It's like football coaches, he do
you want to set off a football coach in a
press conference? Sorry for the bad sports analogy. Again, ask

(54:26):
this question, so, why'd you go for it on fourth down?
They hate that? But if you ask how do you
game plan for that situation so you can make the decision,
You're going to get a pretty good answer out of
So my point is the art of asking the question.
Are we asking productive questions? Are we jumping to conclusions
too quickly? And then the person that we're trying to

(54:49):
get information from is sitting there going, well, he or
she just wants to criticize me. He or she's already
opposed to what I'm doing. They're just trying to find
something to knock me for. We need to get back
to the art of asking productive questions, the art of
being able to have a two way conversation without going
now this person just wants to knock me. This person silly,
this person's stupid, whatever the case may be. Because when

(55:10):
you're criticizing the messenger, your message probably isn't very good.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
I hear what you're saying, and I think there is
room for improvement everywhere here. It would be my rebuttal
and my concern. I've always said tone starts at the top, yes,
and I take exception. I do not think it is
forget being presidential. I just don't think it's good leadership.

(55:39):
When a reporter questions President Trump about the Afghan national
wants to know why the Department of Justice under his
tenure approved asylum for this individual, not letting Biden off
the hook, not trying to just asking the question, and
the President looks back, are you supid? Are you stupid?

Speaker 1 (56:01):
That that just does not help?

Speaker 4 (56:05):
How does that help? And then that sets that social
media tone, Dave, that you're talking about, that kind of
I think fuels everybody else, and it sets the tone
and it's become somewhat acceptable. When I thought that was
a specific question to your point, and the President could
have said, here's the process, here's what my administration did,

(56:30):
or heaven forbid, Heaven forbid, someone be humble and say
I don't have that right now. We're going to look
at that. I will get back to you on what
the DOJ under my administration did, and I will follow up.
But if I were to tell you right now, off
the cuff, here's what we did or did not do,

(56:50):
I don't have the facts to be able to do that.
You know how much I would just respect an answer
like that. These days, that we just don't get the
fake it until you make it is so real today
from the podiums, and that's part of that. I didn't
write about that, but that's part of the problem I
think too. Oh yeah, is that everyone someone is afraid
to say I don't know right now. I will take
that follow up. I'll get back to you and diffuse

(57:12):
the situation rather than just being an antagonist with the
kind of language that we heard from the podium Thanksgiving night.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Back to back to your original point. No, I don't
think it is oppositional or disloyal or dissent to simply
ask questions to get more information, to question the whyse
the how's, the what, the who? What, when?

Speaker 7 (57:35):
Where?

Speaker 5 (57:35):
Why?

Speaker 1 (57:35):
You know? The five was a w is there they
teach in journalism, but we need to. I think we
as media, because that's what we do, think about how
we're asking the questions, as how we're opposing the questions,
and the people who are posing the questions too, mostly
politicians and leaders and elected leaders, if they also need

(57:56):
to try to set aside the preconceived notion that everybody's
out to get them or everybody's out to rip apart
whatever they're trying to do. And quite frankly, maybe if
you have a proposal that has a lot of holes
in it, you can come up with a better proposal
after some questions or asked. So I think you're dead
on TJ. It's not disloyalty, it's not necessarily opposition. I

(58:20):
think you can question the governor's decision to send the
guard and still support the decision to send the guard
to Washington, DC, and still ask well, what exactly is
the mission? Explain your thought process. You can support something
and still question it. It's all it's all fair game.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
And look, I wrote that sending the guard, and I
could be wrong. I wrote that sending the guard made
sense in that first thirty days. You can go back
and read the piece. It's on the website. Strong ideas
and I talk about this in the piece hold up
to scrutiny. Weak ideas don't. And that's part of why

(58:55):
debate is so important. That's part of why the public
questions are so important. It also brings a level of
transparency into the process, and I think strong leaders see
that for what it is. And frankly, week leaders will
dismiss it as Oh, if you would dare ask about this,

(59:16):
you are the problem. Uh, Greg and on, I would
like to weigh in.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
He's got a comment. Hey, Greg, go ahead, buddy.

Speaker 11 (59:23):
I appreciate you. Tom. Guys. Great discussion. By the way,
I actually like you guys going back and forth on
this for a while rather than cutting off in each second.
I mean, it's good. I'm gonna throw in something different
while I was having in mind to begin with. But
you know, they talk about loyalty. I don't a need
loyalty to President Trump. I don't even loyalty to Joe Biden.
I'm a loyal to anybody but my family, my God,
and my country. That's the biggest concern.

Speaker 26 (59:43):
But here's my joke.

Speaker 11 (59:45):
When you talk about asking the tough questions, poor Caitlyn
Collins from CNN. Yes, they're in a distant third. I'm
not a Fox fan at all. I think they've ruined
the country. But she's the only one that ever asked
a decent question and he beats her up. Okay, then
he's gonna be able to wait till he pulls He's
only been office nine months, right now, wait till he
pulls off. What the Pentagon did? Did you actually see

(01:00:06):
Laura Lumer and Matt Gates asking questions of the Pentagon
the other day?

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
I missed that. There is no idea, not.

Speaker 11 (01:00:13):
A member of the press there. And that's what he's
gonna do. He's gonna bring in Gates and Lumer and
all these other idiots. He's going to be a Trump
suck fest. I mean, that's you talk about control.

Speaker 7 (01:00:25):
Yeah, when did it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
Become that you have to be all in on any politician?
And if you're not all in, you're against him? Why
can't we go item by item?

Speaker 11 (01:00:35):
The guy last night that won in Tennessee. Go watch
his acceptance speech. He steps up to the podium in
his little hotel gathering and within the first seventeen words
said Donald Trump twice. Geez can he not represent the
people of Central Tennessee. He's got to represent Donald Trump.
Wants to represent Donald Trump. Why didn't just move to
mar law run work point they're the loyalty to the

(01:00:56):
to a person or any of these people is nuts.
I mean, that's what's that's the scary part.

Speaker 7 (01:01:01):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:01:02):
Richard Nixon took a beating by the press, took a
beating by and then he resigned and got you know
that type of thing. That's the way it needs to be.
And and senators and congressmen on both sides said, Nixon,
you're gone. You know, Reagan, we don't get a Republican.
I mean Riley Moore, Lord, I think he helps Donald
Trump put on his underwear in the morning. And of
course I could say the same thing about Carol Miller,
but nobody ever sees Carol Miller's We have no idea

(01:01:24):
what the hell she even does. So here, I appreciate
you guys making the time for this.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Absolutely appreciate the phone call. Greg eight hundred and seven
sixty five. Talk. Let's go to Mike in Morgantown. What's
on your mind?

Speaker 26 (01:01:35):
Mike, Well, it's so like your last callers. Uh, he's
definitely an anti he's not a Republican, and it sounds
like he's got an astro crad against uh. I guess
any conservative what it sounded like to me. But to
his point about Caitlyn Collins and these, you know these
why Trump gets so snarky is because it seems to

(01:01:56):
me that all these MSNBC, CNN reporters they come at
me and trying to trip them up. I mean, I'd
like some of Donald Trump's ideas. I won't carry the
water for him, but I mean he's a lot better
than what we had. I've been a marine for thirty
eight years, and you know, as a military person, you

(01:02:19):
don't question. If you get a horrendous order, you might
question it, But no, I don't think it's a I
don't think it's sedition or anything. If you question or
don't agree with your leaders, it is your right. But
the way it's done anymore, I think one of y'all
alluded to this is it's not done in the right way.
It's done in a I'm going to try to either

(01:02:41):
trip you up or call you it's in a bad way.
If I'm being clear, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Yeah, Mike appreciate the phone call, buddy, And that was
kind of my point. And I'm talking about the national
media corporations here. Look, they've taken positions. MSNBC or whatever
it's called now has taken a position we are going
to be editorially liberal. Fox has said we're going to
be editorially conservative. CNNs definitely leans left by taking those positions.

(01:03:11):
ToJ even if you are just the beat reporter at
the White House, you represent this company. This company has
taken an editorial position, and if you are, if it's
a conservative at the podium, you're the enemy, right, You're
trying to trip me up because your company, your organization,
has taken this position. And that was back to my
point of if you're going to do that, then you're

(01:03:33):
going to have not it's just a confrontational, adversarial relationship,
which you should have somewhat between media and politicians. But
it's going to be confrontational to the point you're not
going to get anything. Yeah, you're just trying to trip
me up.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
And it can be respectful, Yeah, I think to Greg's point,
the previous Scholler's point, it can be respectful in how
you pose the question. But man, we're going deeper here
than I thought we would some of those examples you
just gave of those networks, let's just.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Call them what they are.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
It's infotainment, and it's all about the click. It's all
about the ratings to be able. It becomes an echo chamber,
and it becomes less about the debate. And one of
the reasons that sells Dave is because that's easy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Oh that is easy.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
It's it's much more difficult to bring your idea forward
and have it scrutinized, and then have people be able
to scrutinize that idea personally toward you. And compared to
these phone calls. These phone calls, there's a voice, there's
a name, there's some accountability with that. I'm not knocking

(01:04:36):
the text line, but sometimes it's easy to rattle off
a text when no one knows who you are.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Eight hundred and seven and sixty five talks the phone
number three oh four Talk three h four is the
text line. And we'll bring us some of this up
with Howard Monroe when he joins us coming up bottom
of the hour. Gotta take a break a little bit behind.
Appreciate the phone calls. A ton of text We'll get
to those as the show continues as well. It's talk
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Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Eight hundred and seven to sixty five talks. The phone
number eight hundred and seven sixty five eight two five five.
That is the phone number. Let's get another call Tara
in South Charleston. Go ahead, Hey Tara.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Hey, Hello, just real quick, three quick things. Bust off
this boat sides thing. It doesn't play out anymore. Okay.
Remember during the whole COVID thing, you weren't allowed to
question one second of that entire nightmare. If you did,
you were called a conspiracy parist. And it turned out
that a lot of those conspiracies turned out to actually

(01:06:22):
be true. Second off, questioning the National Guard being in
all these different cities. These same people did not question
why Biden and his administration were bringing in fifteen million
people illegally in four years. And finally, with Trump's tone

(01:06:42):
and his response to some of these reporters, Remember a
lot of these people for ten years had called this
man a Nazi, hitler, a white supremacist, a pedophile. He's
not the person who showered with his own daughter. By
the way, Remember they all loved him for years before
he came down that Golden escalayer. This man was called

(01:07:03):
everything under the sun, and he took a bullet from
all of it. I think he's pretty much I think
he's pretty hate stay this way entitled to be a
little bit put off by some of these people.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Hey, Eric, thank you very much for the phone call.
And you bring up a point and I agree with
you here the and TJ this I think ties back
to what you said. The loyalty gets in the way
of critical thinking. If you are loyal to your president,
the president, or the political party to the point that

(01:07:39):
you don't ask questions about things that your party supports,
that's part of the problem. And Tara points that out
that was from that point of view, you can do
you know the other points of view as well. Joe
Biden's decline. When nobody on the left would come out
after that debate and go or very few would go
oh boy, when nobody would question loyalty can't trump critical

(01:08:02):
thinking and asking the right questions. I guess is my point,
and there is a price to be paid.

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
Unfortunately. Just ask Rand, Paul, Thomas Massey or MTG what
happens when you question the party line?

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Three or four. Talk three or four is the text line.
We'll get some more. Thank you very much. Again, I
appreciate the call. Tara three or four. Talk three or
four is the text line at eight hundred and seven
to sixty five. Talk is the phone number. Howard Monroe
from up in the Panhandle going to join us, coming
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Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Three out four talk three or four is the text line?
Eight hundred and seven to sixty five talk eight hundred seven
sixty five eight two five five. That's the phone number.
Let's get a couple of texts in here before we
welcome Howard of Monroe to the program. Geez wow, she's
drinking and swimming in the kool aid. They questioned the
Biden administration. They were way harder on Biden administration than
the current incompetent administration. People need to quit watching Fox

(01:12:29):
News so much it's cooked their brains. Three or four
talk three oh four, Uh Tara's a prime example of
loyalty getting in the way of critical thinking, says The Texter.
Will you all be commenting on the president's cabinet meeting yesterday?
What was your take on Hegseth's reply to killing the
two shipwrecked drug smugglers? We had had Halpern's schedule to

(01:12:52):
talk about all the above, and he's a very busy
man in DC. We'll try again tomorrow. Three or four,
talk three or four. Hey, caller, let's kell how many
times a Democrat says Trump, including you, Laura Lomer officially
has a desk and credentials at the Pentagon. There's that

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U three or four talk three or four.

Speaker 25 (01:13:18):
Um.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
The way TJ says stuff all the time, it seems
he's always scrutinizing it's okay to ask tough questions, but
questioning whether or not the Guard knows how to use
a gun right after a tragedy. Human decency outweighs knowledge
of a past event. Con TJ, says The Texter.

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
That's not what I did. For the record, I have
questioned what condition the National Guard was authorized to carry
their weapons in. There are various conditions. Those conditions either
make the weapon ready to fire, meaning it would be
easier to defend themselves, or they do not make the

(01:13:54):
weapon ready to fire, meaning they would have to take
the time to make it ready to fire. Given what
happened to DC, and I'm not saying that it would
have made a difference because it was an ambush, but
given what happened, I would hope we have asked that
question and we've made appropriate changes because we still have
how many guardsmen on the street today in DC, and

(01:14:15):
I'm sure the threat condition has only intensified. I don't
think that question is out of bounds. I'm sorry, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Three or four talk three or four? Greg is a
liberal dumb finishout out yourself, move out of West Virginia.
The nine point win in Tennessee means nothing, and the
president can say whatever he wants. This Texter says, did oh, Greg,
three or four? Talk three or four? Is the text
line in eight hundred seven six five eight two five five. Well,
if asking questions is patriotic, our next guest must get

(01:14:43):
up in the morning, eat an apple pie, singing Yankee
doodle Dandy. Howard Munroe from the Watchdon Radio Network WVOY
Radio up in wheeling, joins us on the program Morning, Howard.

Speaker 19 (01:14:55):
If I had a flag, I'd be waving it right
now as patriotic as I as I am. I mean,
I have a flag, I just don't have one right here,
not like I don't have a flag.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Yes, please please clarify that. I want to get into
some things going on a wheeling. But you've heard part
of this conversation. I'm sure you read TJ's commentary Why
you've been in this business a long time. Let me
put it that way, Howard. How we reached the point
where just simply asking questions has become some sort of
criticism or dissent.

Speaker 19 (01:15:28):
Yes, yes, and that's a that's a real serious problem. Yes,
it has. And it's this whole issue. We've talked about
it before on the show with you guys. We are
such a divided society. Everybody's either here or there, and
if you're not with me, you're a give me. And
if you ask questions then somehow you're you're an enemy

(01:15:49):
by asking questions. Yeah, and I think it's a tremendously
dangerous place to be in our society. TJ is writing
his commentary, it is patriotic to ask questions and generations
we have accepted. That's the way you should do it.
Not just journalists, but the general public should ask questions. Wait,
ay mitute, why are we doing this? What's the purpose

(01:16:10):
behind this? What happens if we do this? But it's
it's absolutely become a case of you ask the question,
it's immediately perceived as a criticism, and that's not good.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
How do we get back to the way that it
used to be?

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
Howard?

Speaker 4 (01:16:25):
Because if this doesn't change, our system wasn't built to
work like this. Asking questions, being critical, scrutinizing ideas is
fundamental to the American experience and if we lose that,
I don't see how our system works.

Speaker 19 (01:16:41):
Well I don't either, and certainly anybody is an expert
on the way it used to be. I know the
way it used to be. You're right, DJ, I mean,
and I don't know where we're going in this country
if we can't find a way to bridge this divide.
I mean, I think about this a lot, walking it

(01:17:02):
through in my head. What's the what? Where are we aheaded?
What's the ultimate solution here? I don't want to go
whack a doodle here on your show, but you know,
I mean, are we going towards civil war? Are we
doing going towards two separate countries? I don't have an
answer the question, but I think that question is also
one that needs to be asked. If we can't bridge
the divides, if we can't accept that other people have

(01:17:26):
different points of view and we need to discuss them
and ask questions about them, where are we going? It's
it's very dangerous.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Absolutely, let me pose this question to you both.

Speaker 5 (01:17:35):
You two.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
I spent some time in the real world last week,
wasn't on social media, actually talk to people face to face.
We talked about some politics, we talked about some of this,
some of that, And I often wonder if the divide
is as deep as we think it is. Do we
think it is as deep as it is because of

(01:17:57):
social media and because we watch cable news, because we're
immersed in this stuff on a day to day basis.
When I got out and I say, the real world,
people wanted to talk about sports, They want to talk
about what the kid's Christmas play is coming up. There
was some talk about, you know, Turkey's more expensive this year,
but that quickly morphed into other conversations about other things,
and there's a lot of commonality out there. But then

(01:18:19):
we go back to you know, then we get on
social media, and then it's you know, you got to
pick a side, you got to take a stance, You
got to be with me or give me the stuff
you're talking about. I just wonder maybe that's the solution, Howard,
is we actually talk to people face to face rather
than well picking our signs on social media.

Speaker 19 (01:18:35):
I think that's a good point. And I deride myself
every day for spending so much time on social media,
because the minute I start going down to the social
media you know, rabbit hole, I start getting angry and distressed,
and I can feel agena and I feel frustration. Yes,
I think so. But the problem with social media is

(01:18:57):
very prevalent. You know, you know, it must have been
a cliche once upon a time at the Thanksgiving dinner table.
You know, Grandma and granddad had no idea what you
were talking about. If you're talking about the Internet or
talking about social media or whatever, or cell phones or whatever. Nowadays,
everybody is immersed in it. It's hard to avoid it.

(01:19:19):
Some do, some do And when you get into a
circumstance and you were hunting, I think, right yet, what
you were doing. Yeah, when you get into a circumstance
where you're just not around it, and when people are
not therefore thinking that way, you know, Yeah, pleasant conversations.
I have great conversations with the people that I would
normally be putting on my duke's with when we don't

(01:19:42):
talk about you know, politics, we don't talk about social media,
or we don't get into all that stuff. So I
don't know, but I don't know how we get there
because we're all we all are bathed in our social
media and certainly the people who are listening to us
right now are people who bathe in the political world,

(01:20:02):
the issue oriented world, the topical oriented world. You know,
maybe folks who are more interested in sports or listen
to sports talk radio and aren't aren't worried about the
things that we worry about.

Speaker 4 (01:20:15):
Yeah, but this is controvert This is the trim tab, Howard.
It's not the runner that moves the boat. It's the
trim tab, that little bit of the of the runner.
And that's the problem. Is this is the trim tab.
And if this is how the trim tab is acting
and conducting themselves, it has that ability to grow and

(01:20:35):
to morph into something much larger, which is actually turning
the boat. That's my fear. It's not a good analogy
to how we solve it. But tone at the top,
maybe you know, maybe I need to be a little
bit nicer to the guy that disagrees with me, me
personally and set the example.

Speaker 19 (01:20:50):
So I don't know if you want to continue this conversation,
but I keep thinking about former Congressman Dave McKinley at
one time try to get member of Congress Democrats and
Republicans to go to ball games together. He would put
together a little excursions to just go to a ball
game and watch a ballgame, have a howtk dog, have
a beer, and yell at the ump And his philosophy was,

(01:21:14):
if we can get to talk to each other in
that kind of an arena, maybe we won't fight quite
as much in the political arena. Doesn't know if it's succeeded,
but I think it's a It was a great idea.
It's a great concept.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
We should at least all be able to agree that
the umpire is terrible. Howard Monroe joining us from Wanstone
Radio Network WVOY up in Wheeling. I do want to
ask you, Howard. Wheeling City council took some backlash last night.
They closed a homeless camp, believe on Monday, and of
course the snow hit on Tuesday. What's the situation there,
Because we've been following this story a little bit, there's

(01:21:50):
and it's not unique to Wheeling, Charleston, Morgantown, other places
have had these types of situations. What's the feeling there
in Wheeling?

Speaker 19 (01:21:57):
It's very contentious right now. You know, this city council
had decided a few weeks ago we talked about on
this show. They called the homeless camp a hell hall
of failure and we've got to get rid, you know,
we've got to stop it, even though they're the ones
who started it. And they suggested the city manager because
see as the power to close the camp. So the
December first closing date six weeks notice, so they have

(01:22:20):
plenty of notice the camp was going to close. But
then December first was the beginning of the biggest winter
storm of the year, the only one so far, but
one of the biggest winter storms have been a long time,
and there were not enough beds elsewhere in the community
to take the folks who are going to be displaced.

(01:22:41):
That was a key part that the council has said,
we don't have to worry about this because if we
close that camp, there are other beds at the Lfehub
and Salvation Army and so on to put them. As
it turned out there weren't, so the supporters of the homeless,
the folks who were there said give us a day.
We need to figure out where we're going to put
these people, not just take them out in the middle

(01:23:03):
of the snow. Tensions were running high. I think all
the way around. Council wasn't happy about anything, I don't think,
and there ended up being an arrest. One woman went
up to the camp when she wasn't supposed to and
tried to walk in cops that you can't come here.
She ended up getting arrested. Passions are running high. Camp
has closed. Now here's the good news. By the end

(01:23:25):
of the day yesterday they had found the proper number
of beds. The Salvation Army and the Life Ub would
come together and found eighty additional beds for the homeless
to be placed in at this moment, so that one
day request would have been really adequate and probably could
have avoided all this fight. I'm not sure why the
city was so adamant that December first had to be

(01:23:48):
at right smack dab in the middle of a snowstorm,
and that just led to really, really high passions. And
my radio show was filled with that conversation today from
both sides of the aisle. It's just got people. You know,
a small number of people in this community that are affected,
are just really frustrated by the whole thing. And as
you say, Dave, it's every city's got these kind of problems.

Speaker 4 (01:24:13):
I'm glad they found the beds. Howard, I think the
conversation should quickly shift and I'm an outsider, how do
we solve this for the future, Because if you don't
get some kind of long term resolution here at understanding,
it's just going to pop right back up again. You're
going to be in the same place.

Speaker 19 (01:24:29):
Well, what is what solution are we aiming for? And
I'm completely with you, TJ. A couple of years ago,
Winning Council created a position, hired someone to be a
quote homelessly aison with the idea that this would start
to work to get people out of homelessness and into housing.
And instead that position through no fault of the person
who was there kind of went off in a weird

(01:24:49):
and different direction. We don't know what we're trying to do.
We don't know what we want, and that's the problem.
But we need to figure it out. We just can't
keep saying, you know, here there's camp, here's not a camp.
Go to the life hub, stay in a warm shelter
at night, and get back out on the street. We've
got to have some kind of a plan. I'm not
sure it's the city's responsibility, but somebody has got to

(01:25:11):
take responsibility for saying here is what we're going to
do to address the problem long term. It's a point
that was made to council last night.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
Homeless camps don't work at Howard. You know this. I
cover them here in Morgantown. They don't work. They are
areas crime thrives, drug abuse thrives there. It does not
help the individuals who are there. Really, it facilitates the
worst vices. It doesn't help them get back on their
feet or get into any sort of rehabilitation, whatever the

(01:25:40):
case may be. But often, and the same thing happened
here in Morgantown. Howard, You're right, we know what we
don't want, We don't want the homeless camp. But how
do you provide some sort of service? Is it the
nonprofit agencies responsibility to do that? Is it the religious
community's responsibility to do that? Is the city supposed to
step up and open some sort of a center. Nobody

(01:26:01):
can ever seem to nail down the second part of
that of what do you want? How do you try
to provide some sort of service here for people who
who have no place else to go?

Speaker 19 (01:26:12):
And the problem, which is that there are multiple solutions
because there are multiple problems. There are criminals in those
camps that need to be dealt with criminally. There are
people in those camps who have mental and drug addicted
problems that have to be dealt with in that arena.
And there are people who just plane don't have housing
and if they could find a way to get housing,
they would have it. Those are three separate problems that

(01:26:34):
require three separate kinds of solutions. Somebody, somewhere, somehow's got
to begin to say we're gonna work our way out
of this, and that's my idea. Maybe that's not the
best approach, but what are we aiming for? What are
we trying to do instead, we're shuffling. We'll put them
in the lifebub for a while. Well, we'll send them
back up on the hill. Oh, we'll just let them

(01:26:54):
wander the street. That's not an answer. What's the answer
I have? But I don't know I have the answer.
But somebody somewhere along the way, not just in Wheeling,
not just in Morgantown, not just in West Virginia, but
across the country. You've got to begin to figure out
what's the way to deal with this.

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Howard Monroe. Howard good talking to you again, Buddy, appreciate it.

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See Today is the third So TJ. That means what
twenty two days twenty one? Is it twenty two or
twenty one days left to do your Christmas shopping?

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:29:02):
All I know is I go on the twenty fourth
of December.

Speaker 19 (01:29:05):
With me?

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
You know you don't have to do that, TJ. You
know what you can? Can I do?

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
What can I do?

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
Go to wv bargains dot com? What is wv bargains
dot Com? You ask? Let's pose that question to Joe
Caparelli with WVRC Media. Joe explain wv bargains dot Com
and why TJ should not wait until Christmas Eve to
do is Christmas shopping.

Speaker 8 (01:29:27):
Yeah, definitely don't do that, my man, definitely don't do that.
WV Bargains is our online auction site. You can go
there and get We have four hundred and eighteen items
right now that are available. It's from outdoors to vehicle,
to house, to getaways to golf and it's it basically, folks.

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It works like eBay. There's a clock that ticks down
on every item and it goes to Friday at five pm.
You bid on it and you can keep going back
and forth bidding if so, and at five pm, whoever
the highest bidder is, when's that item. It's really simple
to do. Go to wv bargains dot com. Up in

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the right hand corner, there's a login or a creating account.
Creating account, they're going to ask you for your information,
your email, your phone number, credit cards, not needed till
you win a bid and then you create an account
and then you can you're off to the races. Go
in peruse what we have up. As of right now,
we have four hundred and eighteen items from six different

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markets across our company and they're all start at sixty
percent off.

Speaker 4 (01:30:39):
Nice Joe, what's hot? What's the big gift on there
right now. You're looking at Buddy Man.

Speaker 8 (01:30:43):
So like I got a big year. I have two
and a half acres. So there's a Toro zero turn
mewer on there right now. It's four nine hundred and
ninety nine dollars and the current bid is one nine
hundred and nine dollars. Wow, So right now it's more
than half half to save more than half. So there's
that there. For people that are outdoorsmen, there's a twenty

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twenty three American Landmaster UTV that's up there that is
fifteen thousand dollars. It's fifteen six y nine nine is
what it retails for. The current bid on it is
six two hundred and seventy nine dollars. Another one that's
on there for construction people or people that have outside

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of equipment. We have an AGT Mini skid steer. It
retails for five grand. The bid right now on is
two thousand and forty dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
All right, Joe, give the details. Where do you go
and how long do you have till the bidding closes.

Speaker 8 (01:31:50):
Correct, So it's wv bargains dot Com. Bidding ends five
pm this Friday, December fifth. So I'm just I tell people, hey,
go on look see what's there. I guarantee you you're
going to be able to find a Christmas present for
a relative, a kid, a family member, a loved one.
There's spa stuff for the ladies, there's outdoor stuff for

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the men. There's so many different things. Just go in
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Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
WP bargains dot COM's website. Thank you, Joe, appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (01:32:23):
Buddy, No problem, guys, thanks for your time.

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