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Good Friday morning to you all across the great state
of West Virginia. It's Metro News talk Line MTJ Meadows.
Dave Wilson on assignment at the state football Championships today.
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point twenty five billion dollars gonna put money into pockets
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get into Trump accounts with John Burdett understand how they work.
He's a Charleston area financial advisor. You can start claiming
that thousand dollars now for your children, by the way,
So we'll get into that with John and try to

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understand more. George Pelletier, president and CEO, a WVRC Media
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We're going to talk about wv bargains. Today's the last day, folks.
There are some amazing things on this website. I've got
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us through the website, let us know what's there for
this holiday season. We begin today with the gentleman that

(02:10):
I refer to as the energies are of the State
of West Virginia. Nick Preservadi is here. Nick, what's up? Hey, good,
good to see you, and thanks for having me back
on the show again. Yeah, before we start, before we
get into data centers and rules, last time you were here,
you were probably getting in your car out, you know,
here in our parking lot. Textas says he was the
fullback at Notre Dame. He went, why aren't you talking

(02:32):
about dad? Nick? Were you? Were you the fullback at
Notre Dame? I was a walk on it.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Okay, let's let's let's set the record straight here, this
level set.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
A little bit.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yeah, I was a walk on. Drone betis with my class.
So that tells you the bus the bus was the
full back at Notre Dame. Yeah, I was a walk on.
That's played in the Blue Gold Game and uh took
a lot of hits from those guys. Never got in
a game, never played season, but practice with the team
played with him, and still stay in touch with a

(03:02):
lot of those guys. But no one has ever confused
me with the bus. Did you get the run out
of the tunnel?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Blue Gold game? Ran out of the tunnel?

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah, got clipboard smashed over my head by Lou Holtz,
kicked out of practice by coach Holtz.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Once why a lot of stories there talking about data
centers Another time, Why did Lou Holtz kick you out
of the practice.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Because I didn't know the offensive plays? Yeah, and I
was trying to stay behind the huddle and learn the
plays and wasn't getting in the practice. And he wanted
to set an example for the whole team that you
participated every level. So he smashed a clipboard over my head,
broke it in half, and kicked me out of practice.
And I thought it was over until the next day
at practice he opened the practice saying I don't want
to repeat of yesterday, and brought it up again, so

(03:45):
that one still lives with me a little bit. That
either says something about Lou Holtz or something about your
head that the clipboard broke.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I'm not sure which one, but I think it says
something about both of us. Yeah, I think did he
know you were from West Virginia? Yes? Okay? Did he
ever catch any slack because of that?

Speaker 5 (03:58):
No?

Speaker 2 (03:58):
No, not a bit. None, Lou Haltz, We'll continue this
conversation sometimes I could go an hour on this alone.
You're here to talk about data centers though house built
twenty fourteen, past last legislative session. Now As typical with
most bills, you have what's called a legislative rules process.
They have to go through the administrative rules process. That
has been done, and those rules are out for public

(04:19):
comment now I think it actually closes December the tenth.
Start with high level, what do these rules do? All right?

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Now, that's a good question. So first I want to
talk about with rules don't do? Okay, because a lot
of people say, well, what's the purpose of this, what
are you doing? What's the new initiatives you're doing with
these rules? And answer is none. The economic driver is
Housepell twenty fourteen. That's the will of the legislature, that's
what the governor signed, that's the that's the economic driver.
The rule is only to implement that. So high level,

(04:50):
what we're doing is keeping the rule very simple, very
short and sweet, and it's to implement House Bill twenty fourteen.
And primarily it's for the process for certifying a microgrid
and the process for certifying data centers. And it just
tells companies how to do that. So we're trying not
to make it two overreaching, two overbroad. So it does

(05:13):
that process sets out that for both both of those
If you have a data suit of that wants a microgrid,
they have to obtain both certifications. So we put out
an emergency rule now that's in effect that says this
is the process, and that same rule is being submitted
as a legislative rule to be reviewed by the legislature.
They're going to view it, debate it, vote on it,

(05:33):
and hopefully pass it and it'll go like any other bill,
be passed and signed on by the governor, and whatever
format's passed in it'll be effective likely July one, twenty six,
so that'll be in the normal session normal session, and
until then we have the Emergency Room, which is the
exact same rule and text everything that's in effect now
for the short term until that rule gets passed.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
That's good clarification. So if I'm mister John Q Data
Center and I want to build You're in West Virginia
and I want to have a micro grid, I come
to you under this emergency rule, and I need to.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Do what If you want the micro grid, you have
to submit a detailed plan of where you're at. You
have to meet certain requirements. That's all in the statute,
and the rule has to be one parcel or two
parcels that are nearly contiguous. You have to set forth
where you're going to be your construction plan that you
have the capital to go forward with this. Set forth

(06:25):
a plan that sets the phases of construction, showing that
you have the capital to.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Carry this out. Just those kinds of dates and information.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
It's more of like plats in engineering things, and it's
all set out in a rule, but it's not over burdensome.
But there's no set date on the micro grid. You
submit it and it's going to take some time for
the office to go through review that have some back
and forth, but there is a requirement that we respond
to that and approve it within a quote reasonable time. Obviously,

(06:54):
the governor's press for this is to be as quick
as we can the streamline the process and get the
things out and reviewed as quickly as possible. So that's
for the micro grids. For a data center, it's a
lot different because the data centers, if they're not using
a micro grid, they're going on the grid. So we
basically need to know what's your critical IT load. Critical
IT load is how much electricity are you using from

(07:15):
the servers, not your bathroom, lie, it's not your coffee
maker the equipment.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
What's your IT load? It has to be over ninety.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
And then megawats ninety megawatts, and then after that it's
where you're going to be when you think you're gonna.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Get your power, and it's pretty short.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
And then that we have to respond and grant that
certification or deny it within fourteen days. Fourteen fourteen days.
Governor's like, this is something we need to move on
and move on quickly.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Are there any provisions in the rule that would codify
or create a framework of how these companies would communicate
with the public and what they want to do in
the rule itself.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Know, now there's a there's the exemption in the statute
on the control. I will say that from what we've seen,
and I want to answer this in two parts. First,
the Governor's very adamant that there are going to be
every company that comes in, there's going to be communications
about how we work with the communities, we work with
the municipalities or the counties, that there are going to
be certain things that are done to ensure that this

(08:15):
does not impact the communities. The trees, setbacks, all those things.
It's just they're not going to have carte Blanche. What
we've also seen, and we've had a lot of companies
come in and talking with us through the process. They
want to work with the counties, they want to work
with the municipalities. They want to go to them and say,
what are your concerns, We want to work with you.
So the rule doesn't codify it, but it's already being done,

(08:36):
and we were pleasantly surprised by the number of companies
that come in and said, we want to be welcomed here,
we want to work with the communities, and we'll do
everything we can to work with them.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I want to get into a bit about the topic here,
and I'm just pulling up my notes. Give me a second,
because I don't want to butcher this. One of the
components here is is this one mile limitation. Explain that first.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Off, Okay, so that only applies to microgrids, Okay, it
doesn't apply to the data center portion of it. In
what it says is in instances where you may have
generation power plant on one parcel and the data center
on another, those parcels have to be nearly contiguous. Okay,
So the statute doesn't define that, and we felt like
it was important to provide some guidance to that in

(09:22):
the rule. So what we did is went in researched
every state database, every state statute rule, every federal statute rule,
looking for how others have defined nearly contiguous. No one
uses that term, So then we went to close proximity,
thinking that's about as similar as a turn, and there

(09:42):
are thousands of statutes on defining close proximity, and what see,
it was a variance between line of sight. Some define
it five hundred feet, some define it as a mile.
There's a couple that thinks a little larger than that.
But we tried to look at the legislative intent and say,
what is that they're one of these parcels to be close.
So we define it as a mile, thinking that that

(10:03):
was a very reasonable approach to this.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
We've set it out for.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Public comment and if entities disagree with us, and they
have a legitimate basis and maybe they think of something
that we didn't, we'll consider that, okay. But our basis
is right now that you know, a miles pretty contiguous.
I mean, we understand that topography in West Virginia in
some instances with mountains, that might not be quite as
easy as it is in other places. So we're willing
to listen if there are legitimate concerns. But that's the rationale.

(10:30):
It is trying to make it as reasonable as we can,
to simplify it given the topography. I don't know that
you're going to find in West Virginia because flat land
that you can build on as a premium here. I
don't know if you're going to find Plot A where
you can have the data center and Plot B abutting

(10:50):
directly next door to Plot A where you can have
the micro grid. I just don't.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I don't know that that's feasible. So this mile, you
know you're going to have to connect the power in
different things. I mean, that's sounds to me to be reasonable.
I mean, if we're not talking five miles, we're not
talking ten, we're not talking twenty. So you know that
seems reasonable to me. But I want to I want
to stress this because I think there are provisions in

(11:14):
this build and in the rule. Correct me if I'm wrong.
It's not like electric rate payers are going to pick
up the tab for that in any way.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
No they're not. And that's so a couple of things
in that regard. One is in regards to the micro grid,
if the utility, if someone's using a micro grid, they're
providing all the power themselves, so that has no effect
on the rate payers. So the extent there's a micro grid,
no reppayer involvement. If that micro grid data center says well,
we want to be on the grid and connect to

(11:43):
the utility anyway, just as a backup. The statute requires
that those costs be borne by the data center and
not the right payers. So in that respect it's zero.
It should be zero impact on rate payers.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
I know some folks aren't happy about these things, and
it's hard to please ever all the time, you're never
going to do it. But from an economic perspective, going
back to what you started the interview with, this is
about economic development, This is about economic diversification. They're coming,

(12:15):
They'll be here. It's just a matter of how they
come and how they will end up being here. I
would think if I'm a person that's concerned about this,
better to be on the front end. Now, work with
you in your office. They've gotten till December the tenth
to place their feedback, right, I mean, that's what you're
looking for by public comment, that's.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Exactly what we're looking for. And look, I understand. I
mean there's a lot of people that don't understand. My
mother in law came to me and said, listen, I'm
not against data centers, but I've talked to my friends
and we're scared because we don't understand them. Is it
going to impact our rates? And when I walk them
through it and say no, it's not because here's why.
And we've had Oakrad National Labs and some of the
best researchers in the world help us model this out,
it makes them feel better. So there's some legitimate fear

(12:56):
that people don't understand. But to your point, and I
think this is the most critical point. For decades, if
not over a century, we've heard people say West Virginia
has these resources and we've been exporting them for everybody
else is getting wealthy and getting economic development from our
resources except us. Virginia is the data center capital of
the world only because of West Virginia Energy. They could

(13:19):
not have done it without us. They don't have the power,
they have the customers and our prospect is and the
governor is very clear about this. It's time that West
Virginians get the benefit of our resources. We want the
customers here. And when you talk about the data centers,
we use them every day. I think it's pretty ironic
that a lot of people that are protesting about some
of the data centers and going on Facebook and posting

(13:41):
are using data centers to protests a smartphone.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
I don't see how you're not using a data set.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
If you pay your bills online, you watch Netflix, you
text people, all that's data centers. We're already using them
every day. But the question is why don't we have
them here? So those tens of billions of dollars of
investment tax revenue that Virginia is getting from West Virginia Resources,
we need some of those.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
So talk about that. People say, look, look they don't
employ a lot of people. Okay, maybe they don't, but
the tax revenue is huge. Yeah, So that all right.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
I get really excited about this and we'll try to
slow down. Sorry, I'm sorry, I getting excited here. So
let's take We've modeled up a one giga what data center, Yeah,
is going to generate approximately one hundred about one hundred
and fifteen million dollars of tax revenue annually. So if
you think about that, the way this bill is set up,
we want to make sure that data centers help all
of West Virginia. Fifty percent of that tax revenue is

(14:29):
going to go into lowering the state's personal income tax.
Every West Virginia will benefit. Ten percent goes into infrastructure
improvements to benefit the whole state, water infrastructure, electricity infrastructure.
Ten percent goes to a fund for all counties. So
let's say you know, County X gets a data center
one gig of what, ten percent of that's going to go.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Every county is going to share in that.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
But the county itself gets thirty percent. So if you
have one giga what data center, they're going to get
an additional thirty million dollars a year for ambulance services,
for police cars, for school funding, for whatever they need.
You think about what a county can do with additional
thirty million dollars a year. If they land two every year,
it's sixty million dollars.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Counties that are closing schools because they can't afford that
many schools because of economic density problems.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
I'm just saying, I would say counties. We understand that
data centers don't fit absolutely everywhere. Yeah, but I can't
imagine counties not saying this is not going to impact
us significantly, and we can get tremendous revenue. This can
save counties, save schools, and totally change economic development of
the state going forward. I think counties should be jumping
at the opportunity to bring data centers. Nick preservati energies

(15:41):
are for the Morrissey administration. More importantly, a backup to
Jerome Bettis at Notre Dame who had the clipboard from
lou Holtz smashed over his head.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Thank you, we'll talk to you soon. It's always great.
Thanks for being here, Thanks for having when we come back.
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Speaker 9 (18:07):
Morning TJ, and good morning everyone. Good to be with
all of you.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
We're talking about wv bargains dot Com. Tis the season,
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Speaker 9 (18:18):
Yeah, our WRC Media and all of our radio markets,
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Speaker 2 (19:16):
The variety of what is there really struck me. I
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(19:59):
that is on there. If so, if you want something
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someone person there. There certainly is a lot of things
on there that might might might fit the bill. And
you talked about local. This is online convenience supporting local
business that is really important. Yeah, it's correct.

Speaker 9 (20:17):
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(20:37):
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Speaker 2 (21:17):
Talk line on Metro News, The Voice of West Virginia
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state wide update. Talk line on Metro News. Dave Wilson

(21:51):
away today. He is on location here at the University
of Charleston Stadium lately fields state football championships coming up
call in today's game a little before noon, I think
it starts. He's got a whole variety of games. So anyway,
Dave is there, we'll check in with him coming up
here in just a little bit about ten forty five
ten forty eight ish or so. Meanwhile, the idea of

(22:15):
Trump accounts. I wrote about this today, more so from
the perspective of what the private sector is doing with
the donation of Michael and Susan Dell six point twenty
five billion dollars two hundred and fifty bucks for some
two hundred million children, plus, they're going to match the
thousand dollars that the government is putting in for the
children of their employees of Dell Technologies. So I wrote

(22:38):
about that today. I think it's an example of how
capitalism works and can work. We'll get into that. But
this idea about Trump accounts thousand dollars starting early, how
does it work? Went to our financial guru, John Burdett.
He's a local financial advisor here in Charleston. Jock of morning,

(23:00):
are you I'm doing great? So explain what a Trump
account is. Let's start there. Folks haven't heard about these things.

Speaker 10 (23:08):
Well, I mean there's certainly some news left to come
there that. Yes, details are still being worked out, but essentially,
when you're born, you get a thousand dollars if you
file the right the right form with the government to
open the account up.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
I think it's a form that sounds right here. I'll
pull it up. Yeah, they just put the guidance out yesterday, right.

Speaker 10 (23:32):
So, and the idea is that that will be invested
in a low cost index fund and allow young people
right from the start to get get invested into the economy,
into the markets, and learn how that compounding growth works.
You know, the reality is one thousand dollars in itself

(23:54):
is not going to change the life of anybody, even
with the compounding of the markets as powerful as that is.
But it will allow other people to contribute, you know, grandparents, friends,
family can contribute to help that dollar amount grow potentially.

(24:15):
And also I think, as I don't think it's been
talked about a lot, but it could be a learning
opportunity amen for young people to understand the power of
compound interests. When you see that thousand dollars go to
two thousand, go to four thousand over the course of
your childhood, you know, it might open your eyes up
to the power of compound interest and and maybe that's

(24:37):
going to be the real game changer for the young
folks that have this opportunity. I wrote about that in
my piece today. We were the weird aunt and uncle.
Of course, the truth is I'm really weird. My wife
is perfectly lovely.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
But all the you know, they got a lot of
nieces and nephews, big family, and are a lot of
ants and uncles. You know, everybody's buying toys. We decided
to buy stocks, right and we would buy single shares.
Just set up an account, buy single shares of like
companies that they knew, Like my six year old nephew
knew the train going down the road had CSX on

(25:12):
the side of it, so we would buy him something
that he knew, right, And he gets maybe eleven, twelve thirteen.
He's a college freshman. Now he starts to see, well,
you know, they only get one for my birthday and
one for Christmas. It's not like I get a lot
of these things. But it's starting to it's starting to

(25:34):
add up. And it was like a light went on.
And this kid's a born hustler. Like he's mowing lawns,
he's washing cars, he's doing odd jobs. He knows how
to make money, and he starts putting some of his
own aside. And now he continues to do that. If
we teach this stuff in schools, I mean, this is
this is a prime learning opportunity, and I think that.

Speaker 10 (25:57):
Is the ultimately the value. Now that the deal is,
people have to take advantage of it. Yeah, you know,
you have to fillow that form and you know there's
still an outstanding question. And I guess that's why things
like this radio show are important, you know, letting people
know that this opportunity is out there. Because you know,

(26:21):
you can definitely pass it up. It's not an automatic thing.
You have to file that form. The accounts, my understanding
will be active and live on the fourth of July
of twenty twenty six. At at this point, I understand
that the money will be directed to accounts that the

(26:43):
government has basically set up and has agreed, you know,
where it's going to be administered. At some point though,
that those may be able to be rolled out into
more brokerage accounts and with advisors that sort of thing.
But I don't think that's going to be right off
the bat.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Now Trump Accounts dot gov. Trump Accounts dot gov is
the website details the form that you have to fill
out with the I R S eligibility. I mean, the
way I read this is you got to be born
between twenty five and twenty eight. Fill out the form.
Your kid there's no income on it. I mean, your kid.

Speaker 10 (27:19):
Gets it, that's it. But you have to fill the
form out. But I have to fill the form out, right,
Hopefully on hospitals they passed these forms out. Yeah, well,
I mean you would you would because I mean it's free.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
It's free money, right, And look, is there a legitimate
argument about whether or not, with the debt that we
have today, that this is a good use of funds,
can we afford it? And me, being the fiscal hawk
that I am, I will acknowledge that, but I'll also
say I don't know that the actual money, the actual
thousand dollars, accounts for that learning opportunity and how this

(27:52):
could become a directional shift in America and what the
value on that should.

Speaker 10 (27:58):
Be bringing in a more ownnship society, because that is
the foundation of wealth. When you think about how what
is wealth, It's not dollar bills, it's the ability to
serve people. Yeah, you know, have skills that benefit other people,
You'll be in demand, You'll get the dollar bills in return.
That's exactly what stock ownership is. You're a part owner

(28:20):
in that company. And what are they doing. They're serving
people every day, They're meeting needs, they're innovating, they're solving problems.
And if we can open the young folks eyes to
that and what wealth really is, I mean, that's a
whole dynamic shift in thinking that you know, could be

(28:40):
extremely powerful. I think the cost of it is a
pretty inexpensive tuition payment.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Oh, I agree with you. Completely. I mean I put
it this way to someone yesterday. We do a lot
of dumb stuff, so is a smart thing. I'm fine
with it, even with the deficit, especially when I read
and these numbers are always changing in different surveys, have
different reports. I was reading last night though, the range

(29:08):
anywhere from thirty percent to nearly half of Americans have
zero retirement savings. Does that sound right to you?

Speaker 10 (29:17):
Yeah, it's right. I mean, with the decline of pensions
and the with the advent of the four oh MK,
it's up to you to take charge and be responsible.
And the people that do are better off than they
would have been with the pension generally, but the people

(29:38):
who don't are certainly worse off.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Index funds talk about that. Some folks have sent notes.
What are index funds? I don't know what an index
fund is. I love index funds, talk about them all
the time. But you're the expert. What is an index fund?
And why is that a good vehicle for these thousand
dollars investments?

Speaker 11 (29:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (29:56):
An index fund is simply a passive investment. They're not
buying and selling trying to, you know, pick.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
The hot stock.

Speaker 10 (30:02):
It is a cross section the s and P five
hundred is a popular index that is tracked. It's five
hundred the biggest companies in America, really in the world,
and you participate in that and you don't have to.
There aren't a lot of investment expenses because it's passive.
There are some risks in there that that have cropped

(30:25):
up in the last few years depending on how it's indexed.
You have to be careful and understand that. For instance,
right now, the large tech companies. You know, you think
that the index of the S and P five hundred
would have five hundred stocks, which it does, but they're
not equally weighted. Yeah the wags, Yes, so so an
investment in the S and P five hundred index, you know,

(30:48):
does weight you heavy in technology and things of that nature.
But that tend to be more volatile. But of course
for a young person, you know, volatility doesn't doesn't hurt
them too much. It's an opportunity. Two more things that
I like about this. This could become Asdell has done
and said he will, for the children of his employees.

(31:08):
This could become an investment vehicle that employees can use
to invest or employers can use to invest in their
employees' children, and I'm excited about the trend that that
could possibly bring to the marketplace.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yes, that is.

Speaker 10 (31:22):
A possibility with the accounts, employer funding portions of those accounts,
you know, and hopefully things like that do take off,
because not everybody can afford to continue to fund these accounts,
you know, if you're a young parent and just making
ends meet. Yeah, it's great to get that first thousand,
and yes it is an educational opportunity, but you still

(31:46):
have to have money systematically going in there for it
to really amount to large dollars.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
It's a kickstarter. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. It's
a kickstarter. But even that thousand dollars, I was reading
yesterday and I'm not sure what we're n They used
whether it was nine or closer to eleven percent in
their calculation. But if a newborn gets that thousand bucks
by the time they're sixty five, which is retirement today,
that thousand dollars becomes forty thousand dollars. You can't ignore
the power of compounding, No, you can.

Speaker 10 (32:13):
And that sounds like it was probably even a relatively
modest rate of return, Yeah, probably some conservative Yes, Yeah,
compounding is extremely powerful. And once you get that, you know,
it changes everything. When you go out and buy the
you know, the five dollars coffee or eight dollars whatever
it is. Now you know you got to think, oh,

(32:33):
that five dollars is forty dollars of my retirement money
I'm spending.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Is that cup of coffee worth that?

Speaker 10 (32:39):
You know, you start putting thoughts in people's head when
they understand how compounding works, that maybe makes the more
physically responsible.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Let's say we could talk two hours about this. I'm
extremely passionate about it. The education part is really what
I'm passionate about because we are missing the boat with
our children here big time.

Speaker 10 (32:59):
Yes, and the even looking at the cost if it changes,
you know, it only takes one child to come up
with an idea. I mean, look at how big some
of these companies have grown out of just an idea
and a dorm room.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yes.

Speaker 10 (33:15):
And if you have more and more children thinking along
those lines as the ownership and investment type mentality, You're
going to have more of those things happening around us.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
I think yeah, No, I would definitely agree. John Burdett,
Fourth Avenue Financial here in Charleston, Thank you so much, sir.
I appreciate your time. All right, thank you, Dave Wilson
from the State Football Playoffs Championships. I should say when
we come back.

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Speaker 2 (34:01):
A lot of folks not feeling Trump accounts, a lot
of folks criticizing the Dells on the text line. We'll
get to all that coming up soon. Let's go to
Dave Wilson over at UC Stadium Lately Field here in
Charleston State Football Championships. Morning sir, Good morning, PJ. What's up?
Who's first up today? Who you got?

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Well?

Speaker 12 (34:23):
We got the big schools today that kick things off.
It'll be the Class four A championship, Number one Morgantown
and number three Martinsburg. Second time these two teams have
played this year. They met back in the regular season
early October over in Martinsburg. Bulldogs won that one thirty
four to six. But Morgantown coaches will tell you they
don't think Martinsburg got their best shot that day. Had

(34:43):
some guys banged up, had some injuries. Morgantown's healthy, Martinsburg's healthy,
and I think we want to have a big ball
game here at noon today.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, I think I'm going to come over after the
show and watch a little bit of that should be
a great football game. Let's go to Class Triple A, Dave,
is that on the books today too? Or is that tomorrow?

Speaker 13 (34:59):
Now?

Speaker 12 (34:59):
We'll have four A and single A tonight Class TRIPAA
will be the last one tomorrow evening. That's gonna be
a good one and there could be a lot of
points scored. Nitro and Princeton come into that. Two teams
with a bunch of osense. Brat Bosser the outstanding receiver
and rusher for Princeton. Nitro has a receiver in Malachi
who's headed to wvu's so a lot of offense. That

(35:20):
one could be one of those games where at sixty
five sixty.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Four by the end of the night, Class single A
highlight that for us.

Speaker 12 (35:27):
Yeah, that one's the one that comes up tonight at
seven o'clock. You've got Wheeling Central. They've won twelve titles
and thirteen trips to the state championship game, but the
Maroon Knights have not been to the title in six years,
so this will be the first time for this group
of players on the big stage. And then Clay Betel
coming out of the west end of Montngaria County. Prior
to this year, the semi finals was as far as

(35:47):
play Bettel had ever reached. But the Seb's making their
first trip to Charleston, the first trip of the state championship.
First trip to Charleston, obviously, and everybody thinks this is,
you know, the Maroon Knights game to win. But watch
out this peees have a big offensive line from playmakers.
They could make some things very interesting tonight.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Nothing against Wheeling Central. I kind of like the underdogs, man,
I kind of like that Cinderella first time their story.
I think you got a root for that a bit
the lot least that's Matt.

Speaker 12 (36:13):
Those underdog stories are fun. And what's fun about the
small schools. You get the entire communities involved. There should
be a pretty good crowd. I think there's one person
who has to stay back in Blacksville tonight to run
the gas station.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
Otherwise the entire.

Speaker 12 (36:28):
Western end of Bond County. I think we'll be down
here this evening.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
I love it. I love it. Class Double A. What's
up there?

Speaker 12 (36:33):
That will be Frankfort and Bluefield at noon tomorrow. Frankfurt
is defending Class Double A champs. Bluefield is a perennial
power in Class Double A. Back in the state tattle
game with longtime Venteran head coach Freddie Simon, So I, TJ.
I think we've got four good championship games on tap.
We've got some teams that haven't been here in a while,
some teams making their first appearance. So everything you would
want in four state championship games, and Dave.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
We've got it covered from A to Z. Tell our listeners,
our viewers, where to watch, how to listen, where do
they go?

Speaker 12 (37:03):
Well, we got you covered on the Metro News Radio Network,
no offense, TJ. Miny of the affiliates were breaking away
next hour the joint championships coverage, So get your teams
in early. But we got you on the Metro News
Radio Network, Metro News television app as well, where we'll
have video coverage and then of course Joe Bercado and
Greg Kerry we'll have photos, highlights, recaps, reactions, all of

(37:27):
that in the post games over at wv metronews dot com.
So comprehensive coverage all the way around, all day.

Speaker 14 (37:32):
Today and tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Dave Allen told me you already hit the concession stand
this morning.

Speaker 12 (37:38):
But that's the first thing you do is you find
some good coffee nowhere to go to get a little break,
a little snack at halftime. You have to These are
the priorities when you show up to the stadium.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
DJ.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
You got to know what you're doing well, be prepared.
And I agree, no need to go hungry. If you do,
it's your own fault. That's way I look at it.
So that's exactly right, all right, brother, have a great broadcast,
have a great series of broadcasts, and we'll see you
on Monday.

Speaker 12 (38:01):
Should be called good luck steam Releasers.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
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Speaker 2 (41:55):
Joe Nelson producing today. Sophia Wassek on the phone's jakelink
on the video stream. My thanks, guys, TJ. These Trump
accounts will revolutionize the way children approach their finances. Oh wait,
only kids born between twenty twenty five and twenty twenty
eight will get the money. I guess we'll have it.

(42:15):
We'll have children of a three year span with financial literacy.
Bread and Circuses says the text A couple of points
on that. Yeah, it's experimental. I mean it's a it's
a trial run. The legislation is good between twenty five
and twenty eight, but it's a pathway to open it

(42:37):
up and make it permanent. And Burdett hit the nail
on the head. It's not about the thousand dollars as
much as it is about the learning opportunity. Imagine using
these accounts and these numbers, starting in I don't know,

(42:58):
fourth grade math, fifth grade math, middle school on to
teach children responsible personal finance, allowing them to see their
contributions grow if they have a part time job, allowing
this to be like a starter four oh one k

(43:19):
to take some of their earnings and put in, Allowing
parents to take some of their earnings and put in.
We see what the Dells are doing with Dell Technologies
employee saying they'll match the thousand dollars for their employees.
Will additional philanthropists come forward and want to put more
money into these pots in order to see these grow.

(43:43):
I would rather do that and put kids on a
good path that teaches them personal responsibility and how to
build wealth, then continue to talk about more and more
government programs. It's a kickstarter, it's an investment in children.

(44:04):
I've already seen the text saw it's socialism. No, it's not. No,
it's not. And the reason it's not is that we're
talking about children here. We're not talking about able bodied adults,
and we're talking about a learning opportunity. More texts on this,
I've got a ton of them. Chris Steyer Waltz. At
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(45:43):
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you rather feed them forever? Got a lot of texts
on that we'll get to it at eleven twenty three. I'll
wrap my commentary into it as well. Meanwhile, eleven on
Friday staple appearance by one Chris Steierwalt, native West Virginian

(46:06):
political editor, host of The Hill Sunday on News Nation.
Good morning, Chris, heck.

Speaker 14 (46:11):
Yeah, glad to be a staple. Good.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
I'm like, how is Thanksgiving? Brother?

Speaker 14 (46:18):
Orange juice? I'm a commodity to be traded for your
content needs.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Well, you know, price is high on orange juice these days,
So there you go.

Speaker 14 (46:26):
I know, I know you're constantly tracking it.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Who I am?

Speaker 14 (46:30):
Who's still Who's still drinking orange juice? I'd like to
just ask, are the people out there still drinking orange
juice in the morning?

Speaker 2 (46:39):
I think the market these days is really for the
drinks that orange juice is used to make on the
adult beverage side. Maybe that's where it's all going.

Speaker 14 (46:47):
Like the thought of starting my day with a glass
of sugary fruit juice would be I'd be like heroin
the concept of just drinking eight ounces of sweet fruit juice.
It is like, Wow, I can't believe it. I might
I might as well just do smack.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
I was asked the other day if I should decrease
my coffee intake because folks thought I was drinking to
such extent that I should be downing mountain dews on
the side of the show instead of the coffee that
I take every day. But that's how I'm meet man.
I gotta have my coffee.

Speaker 14 (47:24):
I posted a video of myself drinking ten cups of
coffee during the course of eight a show a Sunday
show preparation that the six am to eleven AM ten
cups of coffee, and there were people genuinely concerned for
my health. And I hear you and I feel it.
It's not always ten cups, but it's a lot of coffee.

(47:45):
I am missing a lot of coffee.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Yeah, I meet me too, Me too. We haven't gotten
to connect since the tragic shooting in DC. You're a
West Virginian and you're one of us. I wanted to
start there with any thoughts you might have on the topic.

Speaker 14 (48:00):
Oh, I mean, it's just as sad as the story
could be. Right, and you watch in Washington now you
have the guardsmen and guards women doing their rounds, but
they have a chaperone from the DC Police Department. Now

(48:21):
usually an older officer, somebody maybe they took out of
a desk rotation to fill the job walking around with them,
and it's just a mission like this. You start out
and you say, we have an emergency. We're going to
do something. And I think if you were going to

(48:41):
get an honest answer from a lot of DC residents,
even people who don't like Donald Trump, and that's most
people in Washington, d C. They would say it's been nice, right,
it's been good that there's been a stepped up presence
and that they feel safer and that they're less of
the urban chaos that plagues a lot of neighborhoods in Washington,

(49:05):
d C. And they would say that that's the case,
and it doesn't have to be an emergency for that
to be true. But taken from the standpoint of West
Virginians or whomever, right any state, you young people the
implicit promise of guard service. Right, you will maybe get

(49:26):
deployed to go overseas if there's a war, but the
work that you're going to do is going to be
for your people in your home right. You're going to
serve the people in your community. And the victim here
is from Webster County, Western County floods. If not every spring,
most springs, you're going to get floods in Webster County.

(49:48):
And you can see how people who signed up for
guard service in West Virginia think this is an opportunity
to help. When there's natural disasters, when there's a mind disaster,
there's a crisis, there's something has to happen. I can
step up and do that. You get called into this
different kind of work, and you see somebody lose their
life like this, the pointless loss of life right obviously

(50:11):
deranged human being, a crime of opportunity. It's just, it's all.
It's all very very.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Sad, it is, indeed, and I'm going to be very honest, blunt,
but still try to be respectful. I'm asking a lot
of questions to people, and I still haven't gotten a
lot of answers. But my fear is that we put
these folks in a situation and tied their hands behind
their backs to some degree, and I hope we learned

(50:41):
our lesson from that.

Speaker 20 (50:42):
Also, Oh, I love your optimism.

Speaker 14 (50:48):
I love your optimism. I think the what you saw
if here's the challenge that the Republican Party faces. Donald
Trump's time and power will end, and it will end

(51:09):
soon ish in the scope of history. If the animating
organizing principle of the party is matching the whims, wishes
and desires of one person, you lose your compass right
if there isn't a unifying concept. So if we think

(51:31):
about it this way, what was the Obama presidency about?
The Obama presidency was about bailouts and recovery from the
Panic of two thousand and eight. It was about withdrawing
the United States from the Middle East, and it was

(51:52):
about Obamacare. Those were the things we can say for
the second Trump administration about tariffs and restrictions on foreign trade.
We can say that it's about immigration, certainly, and those
are two things that Republicans can sink their teeth into.

(52:15):
They can. It's the tariffs are hard for them to
talk about. But the third and most important part about
what's in the Republican Where does the needle point for Republicans?
It is and take the drug boats in the Caribbean
and Pacific. That's something obviously, if Barack Obama was doing

(52:36):
or Joe Biden was doing, Republicans would freak out. They
would lose their ever loving minds to have this going on.
They freaked out over drone strikes killing American. They killed
one Obama drone strike killed an American and he was
on the kill list and Obama said we can kill him,
and Republicans freaked out. This time it's reverse engineering back

(53:00):
and say this is why it's good to agree with
Donald Trump. And the challenge that Republicans face. Democrats have
a profound challenge right now, which is they are leaderless.
But there are advantages in being a leaderless party, which
is you don't have to have a unified theme. Four
Republicans unified team is we agree with Donald Trump, we
support Donald Trump, and we're on board with him. And

(53:22):
to state like West Virginia, that's not going to hurt
Patrick Morrissey, that's not going to hurt any like whatever.
Donald Trump's approval rating in West Virginia is probably ninety percent.
It's certainly over ninety percent among West Virginia Republicans, and
so the consequences aren't going to be real there, at
least not for a long time. But nationally and as
a party, figuring out what they are without Donald Trump

(53:45):
is going to be quite a task.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Chris Steyerwald, host of The Hill Sunday on News Nation,
joins us on Metro News talk line. Chris Holhogg politics
out today titled what Democrats can learn from Tennessee and
my eye was caught by Ram Emmanuel. What's the lesson there?

Speaker 14 (54:04):
Lesson is you can nominate very ideological radical people in
places where ideological radical people will succeed, But in all
those other places so often been the Democratic candidate in
Tennessee underperformed the over performance of Democrats since twenty twenty four.

(54:28):
She did thirteen points better than Kamala Harris did in
her district. The norm has been about seventeen points Democrats.
If they do not figure out how I candidates that
match their districts in the way that Ram Emmanuel did
as the chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in
two thousand and six, if they don't find a way

(54:49):
to allow for pro life Democrats, for pro Israel Democrats,
for hawkish Democrats, for fiscally conservative demos, if they can't
make allowances, it doesn't mean the party has to move there.
It just means that in a place like you know,
let's say Central Tennessee. But there's a lot of districts

(55:12):
like that in Ohio, in New Jersey, in California. There's
a ton of places where Democrats can compete, but only
if they don't try to tell voters what they want,
but they give voters what they want. And there's a
we're talking before about the advantages of not having a
leader in a midterm. All you have to do is

(55:35):
tell voters you want to send a message, you want
to ask for change. This is your chance. So you
have to meet them where they are, not tell them
what they want.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Who controls that messaging minus a leader? I mean, is
it a guy like Ron and Manuel that has been there,
done that? Because that's part of the problem. Right, If
there's no trim tab to push it in the right
direction nationally, how how does it happen? How do you
get to that point where you have some success or
you have a better chance of winning.

Speaker 14 (56:07):
Well, I think there's a lot that the Democratic Congressional
Campaign Committee can do in terms of who they fund
and how they fight. But you point to the larger problem.
We have these astonishingly weak parties that don't have much
of a means to bring their will to bear, and
it's much more ground up than top down, social media, decentralization,

(56:31):
any number of things, the painous McCain fine gold campaign,
finance law, Citizens United. There's all of these reasons why
we have these perniciously weak parties. So it basically has
to be a collective decision reached by twenty million Democrats
from coast to coast that they are willing, even if

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Abigail Spanberger doesn't, you know, give them a thrill up
their leg that they're willing to prize elected ability. So
it's a it's a collective action challenge for the Democrats
and districts. If you take that the Tennessee district. If
you live in Nashville and you are, you know, getting

(57:12):
a soy milk lot, I guess nobody drinks to soy
milk anymore an oat milk latte and want to defund
the police and want to do all that stuff. Are
you able to say, I can't have everything I want
when I vote in this primary. I have to think
about who can win. And the Republicans failed that test.

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In twenty twenty two, they had a similar opportunity, and
they failed the test and didn't get anything like the
gains that they should have had. Democrats are in a
similar position, and it just comes down to a crowdsourced,
collective action issue.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Put the good old whole milk in my latte. I mean,
you know that's the point. You want milk, You want
to milkip.

Speaker 14 (57:52):
On your coffee. I let the whole coffee conversation go earlier,
and I didn't make fun of your coffee. And here
you are. You're you're bringing it right back at me
that I know you're drinking a peppermint prappuccino foo food
for food. I wouldn't say anything only.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
For the first cup. After that, it's just coffee in
half and half. Look, if you can't make fun of yourself,
you got problems in this world. Maybe you're not gonna
make it.

Speaker 14 (58:16):
You have to become ungovernable. You have to free yourself
from dairy in your coffee. You have to become free.
It's not too late for you to free yourself and
drink black coffee and and not be governed by the
availability of climate controlled dairy products. You should be able
to put a scoop of instant coffee in the bottom

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of a cup with some with a little bit of
hot water and call it good and be free.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Well, maybe a new Year's resolution. We'll see. Hey, give me,
give me a quick couple of minutes. Here, here's today's curveball.
I'm taking it in the teeth on Trump accounts. You
have an opinion there.

Speaker 14 (58:54):
I mean, I don't know free money is popular. I
guess people like it when you give free money away.
I don't know the idea of it feels like security.
I don't know. People probably should do these things for
their kids. They probably won't. The government will mismanagement, mismanage it,

(59:18):
and it will be another means of control that the
government will exert over people and their choices. Gives me
the willies.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Well, you're reigning on my parade. I actually like it,
because you know, I've been called a socialist and everything
else this morning, which is fine. But to your point,
I think it's a learning opportunity in that we can
teach kids personal finance. We can start to use these
accounts in schools, we can encourage employers to put money

(59:48):
into the I love what Michael and Susan Dell have
have done. And could it replace Social Security? Maybe? But
I'll tell you no, I writ, well, well, well, okay,
maybe not. But could it teach people how to be responsible?
And could it turn social security into what it's really

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meant to be, just a supplemental and put more of
the onus back on people. I would hope. I would hope.

Speaker 14 (01:00:15):
Given the unbroken string of successes that we have had
with the federal government teaching people how to live. I'm
sure you're right. I'm sure will all work out great
and it will not turn into a political tool and
a boondoggle and a means of federal control, and instead
it will it will spawn a new Milton Friedman like
birth of self control and self discipline among the people.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Just pop my balloon, man, I mean, come on, just
pop my balloon here. I am all excited. I'm like
Jack Bogel, Vanguard should take this thing over. It's going
to be great. People are going to learn about indexing.
I'm really really pumped about it and done always.

Speaker 14 (01:00:56):
Applied the Mitch Daniels test. Mitch Daniel tests when he
became governor of Indiana was he said, open up the
Yellow Pages if there are and then for younger people,
yell pages were it was a directory of businesses, and
open up the Yellow Pages and if there are three
or more entities providing a service. The government should not

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provide that service. There is no shortage of places for
people who get investment, advice and help, and it's available
through their jobs, and it's available through all these places.
And I don't know. I just feel the government crews
things up mostly and that they will probably do this wrong,
and that it will become a political tool later, and

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that when Democrats get in power, they will say, well,
these funds can no longer be invested in these things.
They have to be invested in these things. And then
the Republicans will take over and they'll say no, they
no longer can be invested in those things. They must
be invested in these things. I think again, giving away
free money is very popular, and people like to get
free money. I think there's always a lot of strength

(01:02:00):
attached when it's the government.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
See, my hope is to your point, the vanguards, the schwabs,
they'll come in and take this thing over and it'll
just be Okay, here's the money, keep the government out
of it. After that, give the kid a thousand bucks,
teach them moving forward. So I'll talk to my Wall
Street friends, be like, you guys got to get on
this thing, man, you gotta take it over.

Speaker 14 (01:02:19):
It'd be good if they do, But I would imagine
that it will not be long before we find out
that there's some enterprising Republican somewhere who realizes that some
of this money is being used to fund the woke agenda,
and that this money must must not be used to
fund the wok agenda. And we'll put a political test
on how the money can be invested, and then Democrats

(01:02:40):
will return the favor.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Chris Steyerwalt, the sky is falling, reigning on my financial
literacy parade, Sir, I appreciate you as always.

Speaker 14 (01:02:49):
Happy Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
More texts coming up with talk Line continues. Jackpots are
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lost on how billionaires. Giving money to the poorest to
invest is making the poor's finances responsible and personal. What's
the difference. If the government is giving them the money,
it's still money that's not theirs money. They didn't earn,
money that was given to them for existing. Here's what
I think the difference is. We're talking about children here.

(01:03:58):
We have an obligation to children more so than I
would say we do to able bodied adults. And by
giving this money to children early on, we introduce the
element of compounding, which is so important over time. It's
also a teaching tool that we can start to teach
kids about personal finance and responsibility, budgeting, living below their means,

(01:04:20):
avoiding debt traps. I would rather make that investment now
than have to make a larger investment later because we
have perpetual poverty that can't be broken. This is a
way to do that, to introduce an element, the best
known element that we have capitalism in order to pull

(01:04:45):
people out of the state and which they're in, and
in some instances, many instances, break the cycle of generational poverty.
That's why I think this is different than just a
handout and socialism. My two cents, you can read my
commentary today WV metro news dot com. I lay it
out there, talk about that donation that the Dells have

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given as well, which I think is a marvelous way
to illustrate capitalism works. Talk line on Metro News, the
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It's Friday. It's eleven thirty three. It has been quite
the week. I have felt it, I have heard it.
I know you have things on your mind. It is
time for Steam release.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Let's do it.

Speaker 12 (01:08:59):
I want you to get up now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
I want all of you to get up out of
your chest.

Speaker 5 (01:09:04):
I want you to get up right now.

Speaker 19 (01:09:06):
Then go to the window, open it, then stick your head.

Speaker 11 (01:09:10):
Out and yell.

Speaker 10 (01:09:12):
I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take this anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
You know how to do it? Three oh four talk
three oh four. You can say it. I can't respond.
Eight hundred seven sixty five eight two five five. That's
how you phone in. Let's start there today, George from Huntington.
You're first up on Steam release. Sollo, George, Hi, we.

Speaker 11 (01:09:36):
Have only half an hour each week for Steam release,
So I propose an eleventh commandment. Well short, not preempt
steam release to talk to a politician. You have the
rest of the week to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Thank you, George. Eight hundred seven sixty five eight two
five five eight hundred seven six five t A l. K.
If you want to pick up the phone, do it
the old fashion way or three oh four talk three
oh four is the text line. And we start here.
This steam directed toward Nick Preservati quite a salesman, says

(01:10:12):
the texture sounds like all the coal company salesmen who
promised West Virginians a great life one hundred years ago.
Look you're all, Look, you're already using drugs. Why not
profit off them? West Virginia and West Virginians have a
right to be skeptical after a century of being used.

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Texter simply says TJ and his softball questions Steam, I'd
like to take the family to light the night at
the ballpark, but I can't afford the ticket price for
the whole family. I guess someone needs to be wealthy
to take a family of four editors note talking about
light to night here in Charleston. It's my understanding there's
a mechanism in place if financial circumstances are a difficulty,

(01:10:56):
so reach out to the dirty birds in the ballpark.
It's my understanding they've got to a mechanism to help
with that steam. It has been confirmed by Admiral Frank
Bradley that no explicit no quarter order was issued by
the Secretary of Defense. I'm not surprised you are not
talking about it. Benny hails from Lewisbourg and he's on

(01:11:19):
the phone. Benny, it's all you, buddy.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:11:22):
If I don't agree with your religion and you kill me,
just how do I benefit.

Speaker 11 (01:11:27):
I've wondered about this ever since nine to eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Benny, I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Eight hundred
and seven sixty five eight two five five is that
telephone number? If you want to want phone it in
the old fashioned way. Texter says, come on, TJ. A
corporation sharing with the population isn't capitalism, it's socialism, which
is the government distributing corporate profits to the workers who

(01:11:52):
created the profits. Talking about Trump accounts, this texture says
it is the beginning of a viable platform to replace
Social Security. They should put a stop on Social Security
enrollment and do a buyout on all recipients. Average seven
hundred and fifty thousand per and transition to an investment

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based system that would force ownership and responsibility, says the Texter.
Three oh four Talk three oh four is that text line.
These data companies are not eager to work with the locals,
as mister Commerce claimed, They are causing only stress and
pain from Mingo and Tucker residents. Eight hundred and seven

(01:12:34):
sixty five eight two five five is the number if
you want to phone in steam texter says, Trump accounts
can be withdrawn at a ten percent tax penalty. As
a bus driver in my retirement and seeing what people
call the real world, there will be about eighty percent
withdrawals at nine hundred dollars accounts across the board. People

(01:12:54):
can't pay rent and eat right now. This texter says,
you're right. Socialism is the government planning and giving people
money and benefits. The Trump accounts is teaching the next
generation how to grow wealth. This really is a genius
idea for the long term sustainability of our society because
with the growth of AI, we don't know what the

(01:13:15):
job market will be like in the next one hundred years.
Three oh four Talk threeh four TJ great and a
great idea. If we keep people from getting their fingers
into it, social Security would be in good shape. If
Congress hadn't used it as mad money. West Virginia teacher
pensions would have been good for the same reason. Eight

(01:13:39):
hundred and seven sixty five eight two five five is
the telephone number will head to Morgantown, where Jim has
been patiently holding. Hello Jim, thank you, Jay.

Speaker 5 (01:13:50):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
I just wanted to comment on the Republican and Democrat
parties that you've got two parties that will contradict themselves
and just about every single thing. Democrats are okay with
given money to be legals, but not okay with given
money to young kids to show them how to have
financial freedom. You've got Democrats are okay with abortion because

(01:14:12):
you know, it's okay to kill a baby, but they're
not okay with limiting vaccines because we have to protective babies.
You've got Republicans who don't want to give money to
help out individuals who come over to this country that
are needing to help. Yet we'll give money away to
big corporations. And so if you're a part of the
Democrat or a Republican party, you're a part of the problem.

(01:14:32):
Everybody in this country should be independent, because you know
what we are as a society. We're Americans. We're Americans first,
and everybody should be independent. And you shouldn't let either
side tell you what to think. If you do that,
you're stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Jim, excellent job, sir, I appreciate it. Scott joins us
from Elkview.

Speaker 14 (01:14:50):
Hey, Scott, thank good morning.

Speaker 5 (01:14:53):
I just how big quick about this.

Speaker 11 (01:14:55):
I just wanted to.

Speaker 8 (01:14:55):
Say that if.

Speaker 11 (01:14:58):
The government can shut down over the government, maybe the
government employees just shut down over PI.

Speaker 12 (01:15:06):
Show them how important we are.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Guys, Scott outfew appreciate you, buddy. Eight hundred seven sixty
five eight two five five is the telephone number you
can text your Steam three oh four Talk three oh four.
This textra says, yes, we should have accounts for all children,
and yes, the government setting up accounts and putting money.
Putting money in them is socialism again. Eight hundred seven

(01:15:30):
six five eight two five five. That's the telephone number
texture SEAM three oh four Talk three oh four. We're
off enrolling call now lines are open. Steamer release continues
after these words.

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Joe Nelson is our producer today. Sophioasik Man's the phone
jank leek on the video stream. Eight hundred seven six
five eight two five five three oh four talk three
oh four is the text line, Let's go to the phones.
Speak with Troy who's in Fairmont. Hey, they're Troy, Hey.

Speaker 14 (01:16:25):
Padrick Morrison needs to get reserves out of washing busy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Say thank you, sir, I appreciate you. Weighing in again
that number. Eight hundred seven sixty five eight two five
five three oh four talk three oh four is the
text line, TJ. There's a story on CNN from six
years ago on YouTube about the multi billion dollar illegal
drug trade coming out of Venezuela as the rest of

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the country was collapsing at the same time in the
government and the government was benefiting from it. I think
Siria got him there. They said it was coming through
Central America. How much of the illegal drug trade contributed
to the deaths of civilians in Western Virginia? Uh three
or four talk three oh four. I don't think The

(01:17:11):
savings accounts as part of Trump's bill are bad, but
I think you would have to have been more effective
if instead of new accounts, they would have funded existing
five twenty nine plans and then put into the federal
tax code. The tax contributions to it would have been
tax deductible on the federal tax return. Right now five
twenty nine s are only state deductible, and then permit

(01:17:34):
five to twenty nine rollovers to iras or four oh
one k's the child either doesn't go to college or
goes to college but doesn't use it all. Texter says TJ.
I get where you're coming from, but remember you're trying
to teach financial literacy to people who can barely read.
They'll drain the account when they turn eighteen, use them

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for down payments to homes or hard times, then it
will be over for most great idea, but impractical. This
steam from Tom, who is in Wheeling. He says, people
kids and adults that talk on speaker phones in public
or otherwise have audio playing on their phone in public,

(01:18:16):
things like Facebook, reels, TikTok et, cetera. And he ends
with about five thousand exclamation marks. Nice use of punctuation
there Tom three oh four talk three four again That
text line, TJ my steam is there is no such
thing as free money from the government. Some way, somehow,

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the Trump crime family will take this money, says the texter.
Did Steirwalt intentionally leave out one of the main things
of the Trump administration lower taxes for the working class?
This texter says. The voters used to be able to
choose the leaders they want. Now, thanks to the Texas

(01:19:01):
redistricting case, our leaders get to choose the voters they want.
Like the GOP Congress. The Supreme Court has become a
rubber stamp for everything Trump wants. There are no more guardrails.
Three oh four talk three four is the text line again,
if you want to call in your steam eight hundred

(01:19:23):
seven six five eight two five five texter says. The
question is what will this Styer cult do when Trump
is gone? His whole current life is about Trump. Boy.
You guys didn't even touch on heg seth in that mess.
Would like to have seen Chris's take toe in the

(01:19:45):
party line. I guess disappointing, says the texter. Who's going
to teach the children of those who are poor? To
be financially illiterate. They're financially illiterate parents. You can teach
someone to fish if you know how to fish. Can't
teach someone to fish, even if they have the best

(01:20:07):
gear and bait if you don't know how to fish,
says the text. This texture says, it's always telling when
TJ is on the topic of universal healthcare and he
denounces it by comparing our healthcare system to Russia, Venezuela
or Mexico, setting the bar real low there, Buddy, shouldn't
the greatest country in the world compare their healthcare system

(01:20:29):
to the highest performers in the world like Australia, Canada, Sweden,
the Netherlands, South Korea, Ireland, Germany, Norway, Taiwan, Belgium were
the many other healthcare systems around the world that all
perform much better than ours in terms of costs, preventable deaths,
and life expectancy. Texture says, want to know what happened

(01:20:52):
in Minnesota? People were not allowed to ask questions. ZO
four talk three to four is the text line again
if you want to want to call eight hundred and
seven sixty five eight two five five is the telephone number.
My steam is that West Virginia doesn't impose a punitive

(01:21:13):
Fred Sanford Junkyard tax on irresponsible property dwellers that are
polluting our streams, tarnishing the beauty of our great state.
The truck crash on Route thirty five this week. Glad
the driver survived, but I'd like to know the status
of the driver's license. Did he have a valid CDL?

(01:21:35):
Says the text asks the text. There appears to be
another agency name change in DC. The Department of State
may become the Department of International Real Estate. With a
nice thinking emoji from the texture. This texture says Trump

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and the Republicans show their obligation to children by taking
away snap and healthcare. Let's see it's only good from
twenty five to twenty eight. Probably not politically motivated, though,
right this Texas says, Wow, one thousand dollars are free money.

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Wouldn't Republicans call that socialism? Texters says socialism is okay
when Republicans do it. Three oh four talk three four TJ.
I agree with you about the opportunities around child investment accounts.
I remember in the early two thousands, Republicans were trying

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to reform social security somewhat by allowing workers thirty five
and under to invest a portion of what they pay
into Social Security into index funds. Dems would have nothing
to do with it, said it was gambling with their future.
Can you imagine how much money and how much more
money those thirty five year olds would have and would

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have now if that would have passed. The Senator Willis
interview shows that while white supremacists and Christian nationalists will
always find a sympathetic ear on talk line three oh four.
Talk three zero four is the text line. You can
text your Steam to eight hundred oh excuse me. You

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can call your Steam to eight hundred seven sixty five
eight to five five. Get the steams in now, Get
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As always, will dive deep into mountaineer athletics.

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We'll cover the Mountainees, we'll cover high school sports, and
if it's happening in the world of sports, we'll be
talking about.

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nine at six oh six, or watch anytime on the
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Dale calling it from Nitro Hi, Dale.

Speaker 29 (01:27:41):
Hey, TJ. It's your pal, Dalely. I've been tied up
all week called West Virginia bargains and scanning the toy
deals at the TNA truck stop. We got ourselves a
big weekend of football. I think the other daily wants
Princeton to win, but this Daily is a wild cat.
It's a battle of the lees at Lately. Have a

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good weekend and I can't wait to borrow your snowblower
from with you to another.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Thank you, Dale, Steven and Spencer. That's tough act to follow,
but you're up.

Speaker 5 (01:28:19):
Hey, Dave was gone on, brother. Hey, this whole thing
about a white sopranoist and white nationalists and all this crap,
it's basically George Sorow's communist construct. What is happening though?
White people just want to be left alone and survive

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in this world, to be Christians. When you have twenty
million brown supremacist invador country, that's a bad thing.

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Get in a few more here steam. Why is President
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pardoning the convicted drug lord who bought five hundred tons
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he did not know about this person. Texter says, I'm
listening to Dave at the ballgame on five eighty. Well,
you know he's calling games. I appreciate that. Pay for
your own healthcare squatter. The great economist Walter E. Williams said,
you keep what you earn. I'll keep what I earn.

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Just in case you missed this tidbit, the Pentagon wants
to in support for the Scouts Jamboree in Glenn Jean
too bad. People are sick with TDS. It will only
destroy them and our country. Trump isn't taking snap trying
to get rid of billions of dollars of fraud three

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oh four Talk, three oh four. Ten days until the
ACA enrollment deadline and still no definitive decisions in Washington.
Let's see here. Steven changes his name weekly, says this
Texter three oh four Talk, three oh four. Why is

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it that every person who thinks they should get their
Social Security and invest in themselves are also the people
that have no retirement accounts? Amanda Baron is tonight Live
anchor co hosts of Metro News mid Day. How goes
it great? Happy Friday? Happy Friday.

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I have a lot of esteam, but I'm gonna keep
it under You're.

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Going to keep it to yourself. It's fine what you
got on the show today? All right?

Speaker 8 (01:31:08):
Coming up in just a little bit, we're going to
talk about Pearl Harbor Day. Of course, we'll mark that
on Sunday. There's a special event happening in Huntingdon Ted Diaz, who,
of course a lot of people know when he led
Vetter Veterans programs in the state of West Virginia. He's
going to join us in the studio to talk a
little more about that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
It's fun, sounds like a good show. Yeah, Sunday's Pearl
Harbor Day. I forgot. You know, I've forgotten about that. Chambe.

Speaker 8 (01:31:29):
You just haven't got You haven't forgotten.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
You just haven't gotten there yet. I haven't gotten there yet.
I still have time. So that's funny time.

Speaker 8 (01:31:33):
But we're certainly thinking of you know, everybody, all of
our veterans, and we're very grateful to never forget.

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
Yeah. Big weekend in the Capital City football playoffs going
on late the night, going on, You playing basketball?

Speaker 8 (01:31:44):
You got plans, yes, but nothing that anyone wants to
hear anything about. I'm gonna look at Christmas lights out
my own window.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
I understand. Read group on Monday Day. Wilson rejoins us
on Monday as well. This has been talk going on
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