Talkline | Dec. 8, 2025

Dr. Matthew Christiansen talks about Hep B vaccines. Chris Miller discusses the impact of rolling back CAFE standards. More on the judge's ruling on the charter school system. Plus, Kyle Wiggs stops by to recap the HS Football Championships. 

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from over the weekend, plus your calls, text and tweets
as well. Say good morning to TJ Meadows in the
Charleston studio. Morning, TJ.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Good morning to you and everyone else who had a
snowy commute in the Greater Kanau Valley Tays Valley area
this morning.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
So how is the weather conditions up here? Not much,
It's cloudy, a little bit of flurries north of maybe
flat Woods. I kind of looks like the line on
the map. So how's the how is the weather in
the southern part of the state.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
You know, it was getting worse. When I left the
house this morning around eight. It was flurrying. There was
stuff on the ground, but it wasn't sticking on the road,
you know. But as I came into the office and
I got closer to Charleston, the visibility became worse and worse.
The snow got heavier. And now the car's nice and
coded out in the parking lot. So the commute home
may ended up being the problem. Frankly, we'll have to see.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I know some schools were already taking precautions, sending kids
home early, some cancel, I think some even cancel classes
today as well. Gabe Warren, National Weather Service going to
join us little bit later this hour. We'll get an
update on the weather forecasts. It's just me as I
feel like winter got here early. I mean, obviously it's
not winter officially yet, but it feels like I got
here early this year.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah, it seems like the snow hit a little early,
but at least we haven't got a lot of the
ice yet. That's really I can deal with the snow,
but the ice and m hm and uh, you know,
but Unfortunately everything's already off the trees and it's gloomy,
and I'm like, when is spring coming. I don't like
this time of year. It's just depressing to me.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
But yeah, I used to say I didn't mind the
snow and you know, the winter. But yeah, as about
a week ago, I've changed my tune on that one. TJ.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
I can deal with the cold cold, or I could
deal with the but the no sun and nothing on
the trees. Yeah, I'm just I'm not down with that.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
So uh, we'll talk about the weather coming up a
little bit later on this hour. So last week end
of the week, a federal Vaccine Advisory Committee voted on
Friday to end the long standing recommendation newborns in the
US get the HEP B vaccine the day they're born.
There were several medical and public health leaders who decried
the action of the panel, All current members appointed by

(04:11):
US Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior to help us
sort through that decision that recommendation. Joining us on the
program is the former Steine Health Officer for West Virginia,
doctor Matthew Christensen. Doctor Christensen, good morning, thanks for stopping by.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
Good morning, Thanks for having me today.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
So I guess let's lay the foundation here, kind of
like a trial, right, Let's lay the foundation. Why was
the HEPB vaccine recommended for newborns and what does this
decision by this panel actually do.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
So the HEPBE vaccination recommendation for newborns has been in
place since nineteen ninety one. Hepatitis B is a viral
infection that generally is considered lifelong. There is no curative treatment,
and it causes very severe liver failure, liver cancer, cirrhosis,
scarring of the liver. Kids can get het B from

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their parents if their parents are positive, but they can
also get it from the environment. And het B is
incredibly durable in the environment. It can last for seven
days outside of the human body. So if it's on
a particular surface, or it's on a you know, you know,
it's a sink or somewhere out in the environment, it
can last for a very very long time, which is

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different than many other viruses which dive very quickly outside
of the body. And so this HEBE recommendation is credited
with reducing the rates of HEBE in the United States
by more than ninety nine percent over the lifetime of
this recommendation, and once people are vaccinated as kids for
hep BE, they're considered protected their entire life. You do
have some waning immunity, and sometimes with particular medical conditions

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or if you're in the healthcare field or other high
exposure settings, we recommend you get revaccinated or have your
tighters checked. But it has been incredibly effective and reducing
the rates of het by in the United States. This
recommendation moves from a un recommend previous recommendation was that
there would be a universal vaccination recommendation for newborns to

(06:08):
a recommendation that encourages people whose moms are be negative
to have the conversation with their with their physician or
healthcare provider about the the risks and benefits of hept
by vaccine. It is something that you know, I'm concerned
about from a public health standpoint, that this will reduce
vaccination rates. It just adds an additional step and an

(06:29):
additional kind of hurdle to jump through and uh and again,
this isn't based on any new science or policy that
the hept by vaccine is dangerous necessarily, but is more
of a policy change around what the recommendation should be
for those moms and babies, whereas the moms are he
BE negative.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
One of the criticisms of he BE being distributed at
birth is that, look, it's a sexually transmitted disease. That's
really what you want to make gate against. So if
those factors aren't there with the mom, or they're not there,
you know, there's no real need for this.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
You don't have to do this.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
I just heard you say though, that that's not the
only way that the vaccine can be transmitted to someone.
How prevalent are those non sexual transmissions.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
They're they are they're rare, I mean, you know, and
and and they've become much more rare since hep BE
has been so well controlled because of this vaccination policy. Uh,
you know, as the prevalence of hep BE in the
in the community declines, the risk of those incidental or
unexpected transmissions declines dramatically as well. And and we and
we see this with our you know, the debate around

(07:38):
other respiratorily transmitted illnesses like you know, even like even
you know, measles, mumps, polio, flu covid, all of those
vaccine preventable illnesses that as the vaccines become become UH implemented,
and and and UH are are are used in a
widespread fashion, the incidents of disease drops and the threat

(07:58):
to any individual person drop as well. And so I
think you know, hepb is is is different than many
of the other vaccines that we recommend in the routine
childhood vaccination series, and that most of those are respiratorily
transmitted diseases. This is transmitted through blood secretions, blood sexually
transmitted methods. But it does persist in a in a

(08:21):
in a really impressive way long term, in the environment
outside of the body, and it and it can get
people infected that way too.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Talking to doctor Matthew Christiansen, it was never a require.
I want to make sure I don't understand it. It
was not a requirement. It was a recommendation, correct, So
that's that's correct. So how does this change the process then,
because I would imagine a physician, whether it's the pediatrician,
OBG I, in whatever the case is, how does that

(08:50):
change the conversation from we recommend it's recommended that your
newborn have this vaccination. What's the conversation now then?

Speaker 5 (08:59):
Yeah, it's it's essentially the same conversation. You know that
you know, the federal government doesn't require any of these vaccines.
You know, through this policy process there there are certain
policy triggers that come.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
After the A C I P.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Which is this this recommendation body approves a certain schedule
of vaccines, like insurance coverage requirement. For insurance coverage, most
insurers have said that they're not going to change their
their insurance coverage policies based on any any changes, you know,
in the near term, So I don't necessarily have a
huge concern for that, but it changes it in my sense,

(09:33):
you know, I think the best way to probably describe
it as more from an opt out policy to an
opt in policy. It is still completely optional, but it
you know, as the default recommendation. This is something that
you know when you have a baby, it you know,
it happened with my kids. I've got three kids, Adam
here in Huntington, and you know, the nurse comes in
with v vaccines, says this is part of the the
routine schedule of immunizations. It moves from that type of

(09:57):
policy and and and I could have declined those, I
didn't because I know that they're safe and effective and
will keep my kids protected from have BE, but it
will move it from that kind of discussion more towards
where the physician will come in and kind of have
an ongoing conversation with the patient about the potential risks
and benefits of the vaccine. So it's always, you know,

(10:18):
in this context, been the patient's choice at that and
parents' choice at that point of vaccination for those kids.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
One of the panel members, doctor Joseph Hibbelin, he said
this vote was quote unconscionable. He said, no rational science
or discussion has been presented that would warrant this change.
Are you concerned here that we have policy and politics
driving policy, I should say, rather than sound medical science

(10:47):
striving policy.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
Yes, I think that this is something that you know,
there's the whole board was replaced when the new administration
came in. So you know, it's not surprising to many
of us in public EF and in medicine that there
are going to be some uh some policy changes here
uh under r F. K Junior, that that are going
to be very different from the previous vaccine requirements. You know,
it is important for your listeners to understand that there

(11:12):
there was really no new science about the risks of
B vaccines or the ineffectiveness or anything of that sort
about you know that was presented at this at this meeting,
this is really a policy decision. That is that that
looks at, you know, the difference between the the universal
recommendation versus the the discussion with the physician. It's it's

(11:34):
again moving more from an opt out policy to an
opt in policy. But there was no new science presented
or there's no new studies. These are tried and true vaccines,
they're tested, they have attributed you know, they're attributed to
a ninety nine percent decrease in happy incidents over the
course of this back policy recommendation. So it's and then
there's nothing to suggest that the old policy was ineffective

(11:55):
in any way. And so I think the only place
you can land is that this is part of the
kind of the readjustment and the kind of the political
policy realignment of this committee.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Talking with doctor Matthew Christiansen about the Federal Vaccine Advisory
Committee voting on Fridays in the long standing recommendation that
newborns get the HEP B vaccine. Anecdotally, I don't know
if there's hard evidence, but I've heard anecdotally the new
parents especially feel pressured to opt in when they are

(12:25):
presented with the vaccines. Have you have you experienced any
of that or have you heard those same stories? And
do you think that this is partly driving policy?

Speaker 5 (12:38):
It could be, And again it's going to be different
in every setting and any any you know with with
any baby that's born, or any you know, any hospital
system you know with with opt out versus the opt
in type approach. Kind of analogy that I've used, Uh,
you know, it's it's kind of a it is an
expectation that if if that kids get this course of vaccines,
that it's you know, based on this policies recommended, this

(13:00):
this committee's recommendation, that it is the best thing for
the child. Again, have be is a is an absolutely
terrible disease. It's something that you know, we've been able
to reduce the incidents by ninety nine percent over the
course of the last twenty or more years. And so
it's it's uh, it's been a net good for public health,
for kids, for for our communities. It's reduced healthcare costs.

(13:21):
It's it's a it's a net positive as far as
all the evidence has been presented. So I do think
it's a good idea that parents get vaccines, you know,
especially they have V vaccine and the circumstance for their kids.
But it but it's it, It shouldn't be it. It's
it's not a requirement in that sense when those babies
are born to get it. This is a this is

(13:42):
a recommending body that that makes the recommendation as to
what's best for those kids.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
So, Doc, I feel like I talk to you more
these days than I do my general practitioner. Just with
everything in the news, it seems like I talk to
you more than my own GP. So I'm going to
talk to you as if you were my general practitioner.
Another panel member Evelyn Griffin. She's an obstetrician. She argued
that the vaccine might might be linked to autoimmune conditions,

(14:12):
though she admitted that she didn't have any high quality
studies to prove that. She also said that parents don't
realize how many medical interventions happen in the first hours
after birth, and that she worried about the potential that
we've already kind of discussed of parental rights to be
violated if I came to you having read what the
good doctor there just say just said, Rather, what kind

(14:33):
of counsel would you give me as someone that's trying
to make up their mind or I'm expecting my wife
and I are expecting or trying to figure out what
we want to do.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Sure, that's a great question. And I personally have this
conversation quite a bit with families that want to make
sure they're making the right decision for their kids. And
the vast majority of families when presented with the evidence
about the benefits and the safety of vaccines and the
effectiveness of vaccines in doing things like producing in scid
of b uh and and you know, we can go

(15:03):
on with with MMR vaccine and polio and and you know,
the list goes on. Uh that the vast majority of
parents choose to get their kids vaccinated. There's you know,
I I I talked to parents about you know that
there is a very small risk of of severe allergic reactions.
It's it's tiny, and it pales in comparison to the
to the to the decrease in risk to getting these

(15:25):
infectious diseases, which which also have very severe side effects
that that could cause long term health consequences in this case,
things like liver cancer and cirrhosis and and liver failure
among other things. So it's really a you know, we
we have to you know, give parents the information, give
them the uh, the ability to make the decision for themselves,

(15:47):
but but also use personal examples and and examples of
you know, my grandma, for example, you know, grew up
with paralyzed on her right side from polio, and uh,
she was first in line with my mom and and
uh and my mom was you know, was eager to
bring me in when it was my time for the
polio shot. And so these are things that over time
we have a reduced sense of risk of some of

(16:08):
these diseases and that that's a good thing because it
means the vaccines are working and that we're not in
necessarily in a crisis mode as we were, uh just
a couple of generations ago.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
We're going to get pinched by the clock. If if
the vaccine, the HEV vaccine is not a ministered day
of birth, can you come back later three years, two
years old, two weeks later. Can can it be administered
at a later date?

Speaker 5 (16:34):
It can be yes, and you know once once uh,
you know, so following up with your with your general
practitioner is the best thing to do pediatrician, UH, to
make sure that they can get you back on that schedule.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
UH.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
The committee advised that if you don't get it immediately,
that you get it done two months after the fact.
The UH, there's not a whole lot of evidence to
guide that two month range that that I've seen that
was presented. I think getting it as soon as possible
after birth is totally reasonable and is safe and effective.

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Speaker 1 (19:03):
Three aho four talk three oh four is the tax
line eight hundred seven sixty five eight two five five.
That is the phone number. Texter asks what was the
hep BE vaccine policy prior to nineteen ninety one? Why
did it change at that time? According to the little
bit of research that I have done prior to that,

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the vaccine was administered to high risk groups and individuals,
but according to data, that targeted approach failed to control
the disease, which led to the shift in ninety one. Again,
that is a quick quick answer to probably a much
more nuanced response. Three or four talk three h four

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the tax line eight hundred seven sixty five eight two
five five the phone number seven hundred and fifty thousand
unvaccinated kids in the country. Where are all the hep
BE cases in those children? Asks the text, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
I don't know, so that number sounds really big, but
minus specifics, I don't know that it means anything. You
follow me on that I mean, I just that's pulling
a data fact a factoid with out a lot of
the background to understand what really goes on.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Listen, I I don't think this. I think this has
a lot to do about nothing. It was a recommendation.
You're still going to have that conversation. Parents are still
going to have to say yes or no to it.
And let's face the facts here, politics plays a role
and also opposing the decisions of this panel. There are
some who are going to oppose anything this administration does.

(20:37):
Not saying that's the case here, but that is also
a factor in the opposition to this. So I'm not
saying it's not a big deal. I'm just it's not
ruffling my feathers too much. It's a recommendation, was never requirement.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Hyperbolically, if we're not going to listen to the CDC
and we're not gonna leave it alone and let it
be non politicized, what's the point get rid of it?
I mean, you know, it'll change like the wind, like
everything else. I don't know if it's so heavily politicized,
I don't know that you can ever really trust what's
coming out of Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (21:10):
But yes, yes it does, Yes it does. And we've
probably reached that point along time, well I don't know
how long. Well we've reached that point where we just
assume everything's politicized, don't we.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
No, that's fair.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
I mean we being society at large, it feels like
we just assume everything's politicized, everything has got an ulterior
motive to it, good, bad, and different. That's the general
feeling I get from the group, the whole. As they say,
all right, Chris Miller's going to join us. We're on
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Speaker 1 (25:12):
Three or four talk three oh four is the text
line at eight hundred and seven sixty five eight two
five five. That's the phone Number'm going to talk to
Chris Miller and Justin Moon. Well, let's squeeze in a
quick call. Keep it tight, Jim and Morgantown, that's on
your mind?

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Hey, just a Q quick question. Did either of you
guys watch or listen to any of the ASIP meetings?
I did not, No, I listened to the vast majority
of it, and here's the thing that was different than
most meetings. Every single person that spoke had to say
if they had a conflict of interest. The two most
outspoken doctors when it comes to vaccines is Peter Hotez

(25:46):
and Paul Offittt. Neither came. They were both invited. The
other organization that has a huge voice for vaccines is
the ap AT American Academy of Pediatrics. They didn't come
up to the meeting, they didn't get a chance, they
didn't speak. They had all the opportunity. Here's what I
noticed about this meeting. They went through and said, Okay,
everybody that's out here talking about this meeting that's against
it is saying there's no medical There was nothing that

(26:10):
was proven, no proven science to reverse this right recommendation.
The entire panel, the vast majority of individuals that spoke,
where people were saying, we were looking for science that
proved that there was a necessity for this vaccine, they
went through and debunked that there was absolutely zero failing

(26:30):
solution controlled study that showed that this had any that
they just didn't have the side effects.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
All.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
I think that it proved was that it was reducing
this effects of hepatitis B. And then the last thing
I'll say, Aaron Serry spoke, and if anybody's out there,
just go out there to listen to this hour and
a half that this man went through all forty one
studies that they used to show that vaccines don't have
any side effects and just listen to what the man says.
It's not about it's not about do we need the
hepatitis vaccine. It's about do we have informed consent as parents.

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That's the main thing that we need is informed consent.
Is there a risk to ratio benefit of this vaccine?
And if not, then why do we need it?

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Hey, Jim, appreciate the phone call, Appreciate the comments. As always,
we'll get more comments and text coming up in just
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minimum miles per gallon that automaker fleets have to make.
He wants to roll those back. He said, we're officially
terminating Joe Biden's ridiculously burdensome, horrible, actually cafe standards that
impose in expensive restrictions and all sorts of problems, Trump
said at a White House event. Chris Miller is the
president of Dutch Miller Auto Group. He knows a thing
or two about cars and selling them. He joins us

(27:53):
all Metron in his talk line Chris, good morning, Good
to talk to you again. Morning, gentlemen. How's everybody doing great? Chris?
Cafe standards, Yes, I know, when you buy a new vehicle,
they've got all kinds of whistles and bells and do
dads to try to get every mile you can and
fuel economy. Are they necessary? And what is the goal here?
From the how can this impact the automakers? I guess?

(28:17):
Oh boy.

Speaker 17 (28:18):
So I used to think that government regulators like didn't
quite think about the unintended consequences of their actions, you know,
the third, fourth, fifth chain in decision making. And the
more that I watch, the more that I think maybe
they do. And literally, at the end of the day,
anytime they get involved in mess up markets, it makes
cars more expensive. And you know, let's start with cash

(28:41):
fraw clunkers for example, which was a policy that got
rid of all the cheap vehicles, drove up the cost
of cars and literally made cars more expensive for like
low income and middle class people. That's what that policy did.
The intent was to try to force people to use
more public transportation. Then we think about, for example, every
time I to a stoplight and my engine shuts off,

(29:04):
that is a government button that is required to be
put on every single car. That also, not only does
it not save us any fuel at all, it's bad
for your engine because you shut it off, then you
have to use it started to start it back up,
create the internal combustion that happens to restart the engine,
which isn't so great for it. And then there's a
slight hesitation which means that in certain safety situations you

(29:24):
can't take off immediately with your car. Lots of unintended
consequences there. So let's get to the cafe standards. What
this did is that it took all the different fleets
of automotive manufacturers and said, you guys have to hit
fuel efficiency targets. And it just so happened that it
looked at eves as they've got infinite gas mileage. So
what happened is they created the system where there was

(29:46):
a coupon system where manufacturers had to wind up buying
coupons on the open market from the other manufacturers that
were producing ev vehicles to write down the cost of
their cars, which literally made the cost of a Tesla
go from two hundred and fifty thousand to one hundred
and eighty thousand dollars. Meanwhile, a family of five, both
of them are you know, mom and dad that are

(30:06):
working trying to move their kids around. It makes the
minivan that they need to buy to move their family
around not cost twenty six thousand dollars, that cost thirty
five thousand dollars. So like, it's the unintended consequences of
all these things that are literally the biggest problem. And
all it does when the government gets involved is it
makes everything more expensive and things don't work well. And
at the end of the day, the market literally functions

(30:27):
perfectly without too much government intervention, and if people wanted
one hundred mile per gallon vehicles, they would start buying it.
The manufacturers would pick up on the demand, and they'd
start manufacturing what the consumers desire. The whole EVY thing
at the end of the day, is a bunch of waste.
It's a temporary technology, and we've spent billions subsidizing this

(30:48):
stuff to then eventually move on to fuel sales and hydrogen,
which is going to be the future of automotive production.
And if we plug every single car on the road
today into our U utility grisslist, if they were all
EV vehicles, we wouldn't have enough power to supply ten
percent of the demands for like car driving. So there's

(31:10):
a utility grid issue here as well. So this is
an investment in all of our tax dollars that is
going to be an absolute waste. That is a temporary technology.
I'm driving an EV vehicle myself personally right now, I'm
driving an EV hummer and it is an absolute pain.
And then you know what, it's cruel technology. It takes
off really really quick.

Speaker 18 (31:31):
It's big.

Speaker 17 (31:33):
The range they say it's four hundred miles per charge, Nope,
it's not. In West Virginia, it's going to be about
three hundred. Anywhere else it's going to be about three
hundred and twenty. And then it takes about eighteen hours.
If you're fortunate enough to install two twenty electric in
your own home just to recharge the car to full

(31:53):
from zero to fully charged. So you have to drive
it during the day and then charge it all night.
And so guess what's happen. My power bill's gone up. Yeah,
I've saved money and gas. But it is an inefficient
system completely. It's a fun car to drive. They're very,
very heavy, and they actually create more wear on the
roads today than some of the other internal combustion vehicles.

(32:16):
And you're not buying any gas at the state to
then take care of the roads because part of our
gas text goes to fix the roads. It's just all backwards.

Speaker 19 (32:25):
Guys.

Speaker 17 (32:25):
What we're doing right now with these cafe standards and
getting rid of them is good for the consumer and
it is good for the taxpayer.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
So I agree with you. Here's my question, why didn't
Trump go all the way? I mean, his restriction would
only take it down to thirty four point five miles
that they would need to meet my model year twenty
thirty one as opposed to the fifty point four. Here's
an idea. Don't put a restriction on and whatever manufacturer
has the best engine that gets the best mileage will

(32:51):
win in the marketplace. Why even keep any kind of
restriction on?

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Chris agreed.

Speaker 17 (32:57):
So you and I both know how this works, where
you have all these lives being entities that are there,
and everybody has this vested interest in all of these
big companies have invested massive amounts of money to.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Then do this like fuel efficiency stuff and this evy stuff.

Speaker 17 (33:10):
That the government's forced them to do, and now they've
got to pivot back and basically divest some of this stuff.
So it's like a talked in scale down because big
money and big lobbying is involved, but they were also
forced to do it, So I get it my perspective,
Let the market take care of and strip it all out.
But this is just the way the system works. You've
got to like at least they're convinced they have to

(33:31):
move it a little bit more systematically.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Where is the market headed? I'll forget the government regulations
for a second, Chris, Is the market headed toward more
fuel efficiency? Is it? Is it four wheel drives? What's
what's the market telling you what a consumers want?

Speaker 17 (33:47):
It's regional And I hate to give you an invasive answer,
but it's completely and utterly regional. Like you can, like
think about when ride sharing was going to be popular,
everybody was talking about it. Well, that would never ever
happen in West Virginia. You know Bubba's I can a
ride here his pickup truck to go hunting in the fall.

Speaker 19 (34:02):
It's not happening.

Speaker 17 (34:04):
We also have an infrastructure that's kind of spread out, right,
so Charlotte, for example, you might get more ride sharing
down there, so you might get the sharing of vehicles.
But in general, in our business, a car represents freedom
and transportation to people. It's the ability to get where
they want to go when they want to go immediately.
It's a part of their own autonomy. And our country

(34:26):
is big and spread out, and we aren't all consolidated
like Europe on top of each other in very very
small spaces. We're spread out. Cars and individual car ownership
is still going to be a part of all this stuff,
at least until the technology changes. And what happens is
first we move into fuel cells, which is Honda's really
close with it. I would imagine in five years we
are going to be seeing the first fuel cell cars

(34:47):
for sale in the United States.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Of a marriage my fuel cells. We got a ton
of shale oil. Just keep using oil. Just keep using gasoline.

Speaker 17 (34:54):
I'm all for it, you know, if that's what the
consumer wants, I'm all for it. Gasoline right now is
less and three bucks a gallon. We're not seeing a
decrease in demand in the internal combustion and engine in
any way, shape or form, and people that are wanting
to buy more big vehicles, more full wheel drive trucks,
and especially with gas that inexpensive, it's not a problem
at all. So you know, back to the fuel cell thing,

(35:16):
it's because there's no need to Like it makes the
cars lighter, there's no need for an internal combustion. The
energy is like constant. So that's what's going to happen,
and the market will adapt and absorb it if it
will based on the demand from the consumer. And the
more and more that they adapt to the technology, the
more the more the people that want it, the more
that they'll sell it. That's what's going to happen. And

(35:37):
then eventually, guess what we wind up with like individual
demanda drones. Just think about that in you know, fifteen
twenty years, where we all get into an individual drone
and pop up and go where we want to go,
and there's all this radar technology that stops us from
running into each other. That's the whole transition with all
of this autonomous automotive vehicles that are self driving, is

(35:57):
that it gets correlated in that and then fifteen twenty
years from now, we're going to be flying where we
want to go. That's what happens with transportation.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
In my personal opinion, I still want control. We can fly,
that's fine, but I'm not giving the stick over to
the computer. I mean, I don't want to do that. Sorry.

Speaker 17 (36:14):
Yeah, the technology and that ev hummer that I'm driving, Yeah,
it's handy, but it's not perfect. You still have to
pay attention even when you put it on self driving.
So there's a lot of development. These have happened, and
me personally, I agree with you. I'd rather keep my
hands on the steering wheel and be in charge of
driving a vehicle. But TJ, we're not the generation that's

(36:36):
coming up.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
That's true.

Speaker 17 (36:39):
We're not Gen Z and we're not you know, we're
not out. The Alpha generation is coming up and they'll
rely more on technology.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Chris Miller running good.

Speaker 17 (36:49):
I was just gonna say I have conversations with my
wife and kids all the time about what our kids
need to be doing in the coming labor market, because
there's going to be so like artificial intelligence is going
to change everything and what they do with their own
individual careers is going to be totally different. And the
conversation that all comes back down to is you got
to be able to do a couple of things. One,
our kids just need to be able to interact and

(37:09):
look with other human beings in the face and be
able to communicate without looking at a device and actually
have a genuine conversation with a human being. And they
need to be good to each other. And then they
need to work hard. And if they do that and
they understand some sort of trade or know how to
do something, they'll be fine. But it gets back to
there's going to be an entire generation that's way more
dependent on technology, and so how are our kids adapt

(37:31):
to the job market in the future is going to
be based on what can you do? Because can you
fix electricity? Can you can you run electric can you
do plumbing? Can you cut hair?

Speaker 6 (37:40):
Can you farm?

Speaker 17 (37:41):
Things like that aren't ever going away.

Speaker 10 (37:42):
It's kind of funny the just thought.

Speaker 20 (37:44):
We'd be there.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Chris Miller joining us, He is the president Dutch Miller
Auto Group. We also ran for governor a couple of
years ago. Chris back to the standards, rolling them back. Ultimately,
folks are hoping I assume President Trump hopes this as well,
that it brings the cost down. I go to the dealership,
I could afford to get that, if I need the minivan,
if I need the suburban, I need a new truck,

(38:06):
whatever the case may be. What practical steps can we
take to make vehicles more affordable. We're never going to
go back to where you can get a brand new
pickup for twenty grand less than twenty grand. I get that,
but what practical steps are available to make vehicles more affordable?

Speaker 4 (38:21):
So they're doing exactly that.

Speaker 17 (38:23):
And the cafe standards, like I explained earlier, created this
coupon system in the open market where they had to
buy and sell coupons to meet the fuel efficiency requirements.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Come on, Colleague, cap and Trade, Colleague cap and Trade, Okay, cap.

Speaker 17 (38:36):
And trade, Fine, General Motors, Chrysler Ford. They were all
buying coupons from Tesla into the tune of a couple
billion bucks a piece a year, and it drives up
the cost of many vans and SUVs that families need
to move their families around and drives down the cost
of ev vehicles through the incentive mechanism, and that's just

(38:58):
bad policy in my opinion. We made stuff that people
don't want less expensive, and we made stuff that people
do want and need more expensive. So you get rid
of those that coupon system in those cafe standards, the
cost of vehicles will come down, in particular vans, SUVs,
trucks and that kind of thing which people actually want,
so it will help the affordability of vehicles.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Chris Miller, President Dutch Miller Auto Group. Always like talking
cars with you, buddy, appreciate you stopping by.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Thanks so much for having me on. Guys, appreciate it absolutely.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Coming up, we'll check on the weather. Some wintry weather
expected actually coming down right now southern part of the state.
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Speaker 1 (41:31):
Southern part of the stay in Eastern Mountains under a
winter weather advisory today Spring Gabe Warren in National Weather
Service into the conversation, Gabe, good morning, what's going on
the next couple of days?

Speaker 23 (41:44):
Good morning, Well, today, you know, we have a system
that's kind of moving just southeast of the area that's
bringing the snowfall across much of central and southern West Virginia.
That's impacting area currently right as of ten to eleven AM,
we general tolls of one to three inches across areas
that have across western, central, and southern portions of the state.

(42:05):
And then that's gonna shift south and east slowly throughout
the afternoon evening, and you know, in general we're looking
at tolls across those areas one to four inches. We
could have locally higher amounts though, as this kind of
pivots through slowly. Once we get past this, you know,
it's gonna be very cold tonight, you know, dry, but
given the snowfall today, anything that melts could refreeze tonight,

(42:27):
So we do have the potential for some black ice
tonight in areas that receive snowfall today. And then as
we head into tomorrow, we will see a nice warming
trend about ten fifteen degrees warmer, but still below average
for this time. Of year, Temperatures will rise above freezing
for much of the area except the higher mountain elevations,
and then we'll continue that trend on Wednesday ahead of

(42:47):
our next system that brings some rain showers to the area.
Tempatures will warm to near normal on Wednesday, looking at
mid forties to even potentially fifty across some of the lowlands.
But that's the general gist of it. But we trend
holder end of the work week following that system, and
then significantly colder this weekend following the passage of another

(43:08):
cold front on a Friday.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
So game as I look out. I just took a
peak a minute ago. It's interesting, Like on the railing
in the parking lot there's about a nanche piled up,
but it's like a dusting to just minuscule amounts on
the ground. But it is starting to pick up there too,
sticking to the cars, not necessarily the roads. So right now,
with what you're seeing and the moisture content and things,
roads probably going to be okay based on what's coming

(43:31):
down would be your best guess.

Speaker 23 (43:34):
Well, it all depends on location. I believe you guys
are in Morgantown, further south and west the rates are
a lot heavier. Here in Charleston there are snow covered roads,
so anywhere you know the ground temperatures are a little
bit warmer. So if you're further north where you have
the snowfall rates are a little bit less not getting
impacted by the heaviest precipitation. With the system, the roads

(43:55):
might you know stay on the wetter side. But across
the central and southern portion of the state where we
have moderate snow, snow covered rows are certainly a possibility
and likely in some area, so it all depends on location.
But further south and west we do have snowcovered rows currently,
so advise everybody to take their time, slow down, and allow.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Some extra time if possible.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Gabe Warren, National Weather Service, Gabe, appreciate the update.

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Three or four talk three O four Texter says, I
may have missed it, but how's our boy Joe Burcando
doing And what was your takeaway of the second year
of the football tournament in Charleston For those of you
who may have missed it. Joe thought he was playing
free safety during the DOUBLEA title game and got in
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(46:52):
hardest working man in sports media. Secondly, I thought the
guys down in Charleston, the committee and all the volunteers
who put that on didn an outstanding job. This year
did an outstanding job. I think they learned from year one.
I thought year two, from my advantage point, went very
smooth and we had four really really good football games
over the weekend. We'll talk more about that coming up.

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Good Morning Hour, number two Metro News talk Line. Welcome
in signed the in Cova Insurance Studios. Dave Wilson of Morgantown, TJ.
Meadows is in Charleston. Zach Carroll check our video producer
if you're watching on the Metro News TV app, and
Sophia Wasik is handling the audio side of things. Coming up.
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(48:02):
and we'll talk about the order issued last week in
Canawha County Circuit Court. We'll get his perspective. Kyle Wiggs
will stop by well recap the weekend in Charleston. Over
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(48:26):
season concluded with the championships on Friday and Saturday. Once again,
say good morning TJ. Meadows in Charleston, Good morning, TJ.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Meadows, Good morning Dave Wilson. I'm left to conclude that
it must be getting worse outside. Just got the texts
kids getting out three hours early today, So good old
Dad's going to figure that out here in a minute.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
So what when if you don't mind me asking, when
is three hours early for your for your kids.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Coming up here at noon? Oh well, that's tight. My
kids get out of three. I took care of it
at the break. I got it under control, so you know.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Just hey, kids, fin for yourselves. Dad will be there
when he gets there. You know that used to be
the answer. Do you remember when that was the answer.
I do remember when that was the answer. And honestly,
my son is resourceful and would be fine. My girls
are still a little too young, and I don't know
that they would listen to big brother. But if they did,
everything would be fine. So hey, I'll tell you, being

(49:24):
the big brother of two younger sisters, they don't listen.
They don't listen to me. Now they didn't listen to
me then either.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
Well you know, he tries to referee between the two
and I pulled him aside the other day and I said,
you know what, this is a good lesson for you
in learning what is possible and what is impossible and
don't waste your time.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Well is it. We'll get to Evan. We'rel here in
a second, because now you got me curious. When I
grew up, the youngest was in charge. In fact, in
many ways, she's still in charge. Is that the case
with your three?

Speaker 9 (49:57):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (49:57):
You know that's interesting. My youngest is the most vocal,
will challenge anything and calls crap on anything that she sees,
which I think will serve her very well later in life.
So maybe I don't know, but now I think my
son still sets the example.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
So Carly is still in charge. She's the one. You
don't want to make her mad to this day.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
Well that would apply, that would apply to Ramsey.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yeah, absolutely, all right, joining us now, by the way,
intergiventee meetings are underway for state lawmakers. They are in
Charleston for the final interim committee session of twenty twenty five,
getting ready for the legislative session which will start January fourteenth,
twenty twenty six. Evan Warrel is the delegate from Cabal County.
He chairs the Health and Human Resources Committee in the

(50:47):
House of Delegates. He joins us on Metro News talk
Line Morning.

Speaker 22 (50:49):
Evan, Good morning, David morej How you guys doing, Duan great.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
We appreciate you coming on. With the legislative session looming,
have you start thinking about or have you set legislative
priorities for the session which is about a month away.

Speaker 20 (51:07):
Yeah, you're right, it is only a month away, and
I would say that, yes, we have we work on those,
you know. Suit a session ends in twenty twenty five,
we're already looking into twenty twenty six, to be honest
with you. So we have set some priorities and different
ideas come from different lawmakers. You are well aware, so
you know, we'll take those in as they come and
you know, be ready to hit the ground running there
January fourteenth, which is wow, here real quick, Evan.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Thanks for joining us this morning. There was a piece
in West Virginia. Watch you're quoted vaccines are always a
big topic, But if I read it right, sounds like
that's not one that you're personally looking to put on
the agenda again this year. And look at what do
you think the rest of the legislature is thinking.

Speaker 22 (51:47):
Yeah, so, I mean, you know, we talked it is
four on one of one hundred and thirty four, right,
So it's while it's not my personal priority, you know,
there's many other things to take care of. It does
come down to the will of the caucus and needed
the committee. I may share the Healthing Your Resource Committee,
but I look at my is to really help educate
inform our members with topics that come across and legislative policies.
But really they drive the agenda. So if they claim,

(52:09):
if they claim or for it, if they're the ones
pushing for you know that we'll visit vaccine exemptions and
we'll do that. But it is not a personal priority
of mine.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
No. Why is that, Evan. Does that have to do
with the court challenge that is currently proceeding forward or
is it just there are other things that need.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
To be worked on.

Speaker 20 (52:27):
I think it's both to be honest with you. You know,
there's obviously the court challenge is still going on, and
then you know, really that and another topic of con
took up a lot of air, you know, last year,
earlier this year, and we left a lot of things
on the table. So we have a pretty large agenda.
I would think a lot of people want to do
a lot of things for their areas and for all
of West Virginia, and we want to make sure they

(52:48):
get the appropriate time this year.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
So what would you like to see and where would
you like to focus your legislative priority?

Speaker 20 (52:56):
Yeah, so me personally, I mean, one of the things
I pushed on early on in session, which was really
supposed to be small and became a kind of a
bigger deal, is more of the MAHA initiatives and you know,
more food, is medicine, healthy activities, healthy lifestyles.

Speaker 22 (53:07):
I mean, there's plenty of data.

Speaker 20 (53:08):
To show there, right, we were some have some of
the worst health outcomes in the nation when it comes
to heart disease, chronic disease, smoking, even and so you know,
really what I'm looking forward to is educating the next
generation on you know, healthier food options and habits as
well as healthy activities and healthy lifestyles that ultimately make
you healthier as the whole as you age and and
the whole idea is to push on an educat inform

(53:30):
on the younger generation so that they hopefully make those,
you know, wiser decisions that I've made at certain times
in my life for sure as they become adults, and
hopefully reduce, you know, some of these worst statistics we
have throughout the nation.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Talking with Evan Moore, l Cabal County Delegate, he chairs
the Health and Human Resources Committee, Evan, we spend a
lot of time, We spent a lot of time on
this program talking about the child welfare system, the foster system.
Obviously you've seen the audit that came out recently about
the shortcomings within the departments, within the systems. What options

(54:03):
are on the table? Obviously there's no one bill that
can fix all problems, but what options are on the
table to be considered to start improving and taking steps
to improve the child welfare system.

Speaker 20 (54:17):
Yeah, you're right, and that's a humongous deal that we've
been trying to nip away at every year, and it's
just a continued issue, continued problem, and exactly what you said,
there's no silver bullet's going to fix this. And we
have over six thousand children in the foster care system
right now, which is just an un alarming number, a
lot of children that are out of state placements. And
I think we really have to do is we're going
to have to really invest in this program appropriately. And

(54:39):
I say that because we have a short amount. I mean,
we have a well i'm out sorry of CPS workers
and we don't pay them well enough, right so who
wants to take those jobs? They have large caseloads because
of that, So we're gonna have to look at investing
in their salaries and increasing their salaries and making the
more attractive. You know, it's a tough job and people

(55:00):
really have a calling for it. You know, my daughter
actually is a licensed social work in Virginia and deals
in the school system, and you know, I hear some
of the stories that she has and tells me all
the time, and it's alarming in Virginia. I can't imagine
what is in West Virginia. But at the end of
the day, a lot of times the CPS workers don't
feel like they have any help. They report things, and
you know, there's things that aren't followed up on. So
you really kind of have to take a big magnifying

(55:22):
glass to every single thing that's going on in an
apartment of the agency and ensure that you know the
things are being done accurately and correctly. But at the
same time, like I said, we're funding and investing in
these programs correctly as well, so we can make sure
we get qualified, ready people to take on these positions
and take these jobs. I know you interviewed Junior Tiarelli
who worked in the system there a couple weeks back,

(55:43):
and you know, he kind of talked about that problem
he had when he worked in that system as well,
So we need to do that. I know Senator Deeds
and definitely Delegate burg camer have been instrumental in that.
They they're kneed deep in that, and they've worked really
hard all year long, and I'm really excited to see
some of the proposals that come across from them on
how we can help improve our child welfare system come
in the new year.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
So I think it comes down, Evan to how do
we pay for it and where does the money come from?
If we want to get you know, more qualified folks
that would find this opportunity more attractive. So just that
you know, where do we get the funds here?

Speaker 20 (56:18):
Well, you know, we have had some survepluses, We do
have some make sure funds that come in, and we're
going to have to just be willing to invest in that.
You know that we're going to say as a state
that we have to invest in our children. We have
to invest in our child welfare system. And we're going
to spend that money and hops in the returns that
we're able to help these children come out of a
tough situation, has become adults and become productive members of society.

(56:39):
So it comes from state funds, It comes from tax
payer money, to be honest with you, But you know
what are our other options? I mean, we cannot turn
our we can't turn our back to these people, and
I'm sure someone feel like we have. We have to
be ready to meet that challenge of front and spend
the money to do so.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Evan Warrel is joining US Capitol County Delegate, chairman of
the Health and Human Resources Committee. There are there technological
efficiencies or upgrades that are needed within the system. It
sounds like a lot of the inefficiency within the system
is case workers getting bogged down in paperwork and the
bureaucratic red tape they have to deal with. Obviously a

(57:14):
lot of that's necessary, but are there are there efficiencies?
There is that in a sound investment for the state.

Speaker 20 (57:21):
Well, you know, I'd love to answer your question with
a yes. However, we just instituted the PATH system that
took I think two or three extra years.

Speaker 22 (57:29):
I think we have three.

Speaker 20 (57:30):
Hundred million dollars investing in it already right now, and
I'm still hearing we have major issues with payments coming
out of that system. And so while it does seem
normal or logical that we would have a technological efficiency
that we could do, we have instituted this PATH system
that kind of has part of that in there with
the child welfare system, and it's not working to its expectations.

(57:52):
And so I have requested a legislative audit on that
past system to kind of, you know, to find a
root cause analysis of what has caused our issues, what
caught our i'll cause our problems. But back to your question,
it you know, I'm really not looking forward to moving
jumping into the next thing when we currently have a
problem with her current technological application that we've paid a

(58:12):
lot of money for.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
When you think.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
About that, Yeah, you know, I think Dave's right, and
you're kind of you're really caught in a tough spot there, Evan,
because you're still trying to get the technology that you've
invested into work. I don't know how current that is,
but it seems like there are more new technologies expand
so quick. So I guess in this area it would

(58:36):
be hard for us to always be on top of
it because, let's face it, I mean, we're we're state government.
We're always going to be behind to some extent. That's
kind of the nature of the of the beasts. So
how do you maybe close the gap if you can't
overcome the gap, but how do you close it a
little bit more?

Speaker 22 (58:50):
Yeah, I think, and that's where we I know, it seems,
I know, everything seems to.

Speaker 20 (58:53):
Come back to broadband and infrastructure. But you know, I
operate an in home carry to see, you know, my
full time job, have at five or caregivers that go
out in the rural homes across the city of West Virginia,
and broadband's continued issue, and we have things called electronic
visit verification to prove that they're there working, and it
doesn't work in a lot of areas throughout the state.
And so when we have doing the same thing, I

(59:14):
mean we can just correlate it to CPS workers where
they're trying to go out and use technology or maybe
either Eason an i'vepad that it allows paperwork to go
through quickly. Well, if they don't have access to broadband,
to a Wi Fi, to hot spots that cellular networks,
you know, those efficiencies go out the door. So I
hate that through everything at broadband and infrastructure, but we
have to go back to that because it really is limiting,

(59:34):
you know, even down to telehealth and what we do
across reaching those rural populations from a healthcare perspective throughout
our states. So it kind of all correlates into that
we need to ensure that we're investing purposes and our
infrastructure and broadband across the state because our people needed
CPS workers, caregivers, nurses. I mean, you know, everybody across
the board is trying to work and provide access and
quality of care, and our rural communities need access to broadband.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
So what kind of discussions are going on on right
now interim committee meetings going on. You guys are getting
together the sessions a month away. What's the feeling in
the capitol this week?

Speaker 20 (01:00:07):
This week, Yeah, it's a good day to be cooped
up in the Capitol all day with the snow outside. So,
you know, we just left the governor the legilate roundtable
on Substance Use disorder, trying to understand how the housing
population we're putting people back, you know, into homes and
recovery residence is. So that's a big topic conversation. Great
to It's happy to see a lot of collaborators that

(01:00:28):
are coming together to try to help those individuals out
throughout our state. It's a big deal. But once again,
just left that meeting and they talked about rurality right
of West Virginia and it's difficult some of our areas,
but we're also going to be looking at me as
things like econot development PSC different you know, with our
electric and water rates going on. And then additionally, we
want to talk about the Rural Health Transformation Program. You

(01:00:48):
know that it was submitted by the Governor's office and No.
Number seventh. We're excited to hear about that application tomorrow
and really looking forward to the end of this month,
when you know the federal government or CMS will hopefully
award at West Virginia a large amount over the next
five years, or we can really start investing in some
of these programs I'm talking about with that Rural Health
Transformation program money.

Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
You talk about that application. There was an op ed
I think in one of the publications I forget where
I read it one of the locals last week or
so it was critical of using Everily mackenzie to be
able to fill that application out. I'm wondering if you
have any thoughts on that and is it really just
a cost versus benefit thing?

Speaker 20 (01:01:26):
It really is a cost versus benefit. I mean, at
the end of the day, we're talking about upwards of
close to a billion dollars over five years. You don't
want to get this wrong. I know every STAB will
receive one hundred million, but then there's that competitive piece
of upwards to another one hundred million dollars each year
for five years. So you don't want to get you
don't want to you know, it's short time. First of all,
cem's gave you not a lot of turnaround for the
states to figure it out. And so I plowed the

(01:01:48):
governor for going out and then hiring an actual consulting
firm who could who's done this, who knows what they're doing,
and could really invest in their time and effort into
solely doing this. I mean, you know, it's a brand
new program. The governor doesn't have people on staff that
you just do this. You know, they have no experience
with this whatsoever. And I think the last art with
Mackenzie is that they took on four states, which was
I was happy to hear give some credibility there jo

(01:02:11):
taking on four states, but we were making sure we
weren't one of twenty, that we were just a copy
and paste. So I think it was instrumental that I
hire a consulting firm to go through that process and
ensure that we get the best application put forward so
that we can, you know, hopefully from the federal government,
receive the most amount of money that really will be
transformational in some of our rural areas.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Cavill County Delegate and Chair of the Health and Human
Resources Committee in the House, Evan, we're out. Evan, we
appreciate it, and we'll be seeing you real soon. Buddy.

Speaker 20 (01:02:38):
Yeah, sounds good Thank you guys, have a great day.
TJ enjoying the early day off.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
Thanks brother, I appreciate it.

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We're gonna talk to Sam Britnettes, challenging the system by
which we established charter schools. Got a court order last week.
We'll talk to him. Coming up. At moment, Let's go
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Speaker 18 (01:05:04):
Good morning, willives.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Have we doing uh doing well? There's no shortage of
topics on Capitol Hill. What's the focus of Congress heading
into the new week.

Speaker 18 (01:05:13):
I think it's going to be a big week for
healthcare and whether or not Democrats can put a bill
on the floor that can pass. You remember, they made
a deal with Republicans that would allow them to have
a vote on these Affortable Care Act tax credits in
exchange for reopening the government. Well, that vote is expected
this week. Now the question is going to be, as
I said before, what bill is Leader Schumer going to

(01:05:35):
put on the floor and is it something that can
actually pass? You know, if he puts this one proposal
that they have, which is a three year extension of
the Affortable Care Act tax credits, and they're probably not
really going to have much of a chance of getting
the votes. You know, the Ravens boy had a better
chance of making the playoffs than that happening.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
What's the timeline here, I mean, conn they're going to
be going on Christmas vacation soon. When do they have
to get this done?

Speaker 18 (01:06:00):
Probably by the end of next week. So any type
of plan that's on healthcare that can pass, they've got
very short time, a very short period of time to
work with here. So you know, we'll see what ultimately
they come up with and what can actually have a
chance of passing. But these tax credits are the extension
of them. They're going to expire at the end of
the year.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Is there any chance that they extend those tax credits,
give them and basically buy some time?

Speaker 18 (01:06:27):
Oh very much so. Yeah, yeah. Some of the things
that are kind of on the table right now would
be maybe a two year extension with some significant reforms.
There's even ideas and maybe a one year extension. There's
been a couple of different ideas that have been pushed together.
But you know, the two people who probably are going
to have the biggest input on whether or not that
can pass or not would be President Trump. But but

(01:06:50):
then you also have Speaker Johnson and Leader Soon and
of course, you know, what are you going to put
on the floor that can actually get votes from both
Democrats and Republicans.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
Politically, it would seem like the owners is really going
to be on the Republicans this time, because Schumer will
put something out. But I don't know that the GOP
has any kind of coalescing around any kind of plan.
So if they can't get at least some strategy or agreement,
it would seem like maybe the focus shifts onto them
as opposed to Democrats. Am I reading the political tea

(01:07:19):
leaves right?

Speaker 18 (01:07:21):
I mean potentially Yeah. I mean, you know, I think
there'll be some Republicans out there who will argue that
Schumer putting a three year extension or you know, a
bolder extension of the plan is going to be is
him playing politics, because they'll they'll argue that, wait, while
you know, we have some other plans, like a two
year extension. There's a house built that five part is in.

(01:07:41):
There's some other ones that have been written by Republicans
that would extend the program with reforms, and Schumer has
is kind of foregoing using those in order to get
something that's going to pass. So yeah, I mean Republicans
will probably argue that putting the plan that has zero
chance of passing is playing politics.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
He's Fox News Radios, Ryan Schmells. Ryan always appreciate it
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Speaker 18 (01:08:07):
I appreciate it, guys, Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
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Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
Put it that way, all right, We'll keep an eye
on that. Be safe. If you're headed out this morning,
and I know several school systems now dismissing early as well,
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Coming up, we'll talk about charter schools and the order
that came out of Canaal County Circuit Court last week.
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charter school system was put under a permanent injunction after

(01:12:57):
circuit judge ruled on Thursday on a case stretching back
several years. Brad mclhenny has the story it's still over
at wv metro news dot com. He's also got an
update that was posted this weekend. The legal challenge was
brought by Sam Burnette of Marion County, a longtime educator
in Montingalia County, and Robert MacLeod of Canall County, both
parents and educators. They contended they had suffer irreparable harm

(01:13:20):
at the charter schools were created without the consent of
a majority of voters in the county or counties where
the charter schools operate. The judge in Brad's story at
wv metro news dot com, send a message of lawmakers
that boils down to this pass legislation to give local
citizens a vote when charter schools are established, or risk
losing the entire charter school system again. Brad has a

(01:13:43):
very detailed story at wv metro news dot com. Joining
us on Metro News talk Line this morning is Sam Burnett,
longtime Montgue County educator and education union activist. Sam. Good morning,
Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 22 (01:13:54):
Good morning, Thanks for having me, Sam.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
We gotta be honest, kind of lost track of this case.
It was filed back in twenty two twenty one. Got
the order from Circuit County A Circuit Court Judge Jennifer
Bailey last week. What was your reaction, first of all
to that ruling from the judge?

Speaker 18 (01:14:10):
Well, I was very pleased.

Speaker 22 (01:14:13):
With her decision. I think it's been a long time coming,
but I think it's the right thing for West Virginia taxpayers.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
Say IM, under the ruling that the judge made, do
you believe the current charter schools that are operating should
be closed?

Speaker 22 (01:14:30):
That would be the decision upon the voters in each
individual county of those of those schools. It's not about
shutting chartered schools down. It's about giving the community and
taxpayers in those communities need the opportunity to decide if

(01:14:50):
charged school is right for their community or not.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Sam, take me back to twenty twenty one. This was
after a legislation was passed that allowed for the Professional
Charter School Board to approve these and establish these charter schools.
What was the point of the lawsuit and why did
you feel necessary to get involved.

Speaker 22 (01:15:08):
Well, formerly, prior even prior to that, our county boards
of education were in charge of approving charters, and when
those charters were not approved by certain boards of education,

(01:15:28):
I think it was Patricia rutgerh put before the Education
Committee to form the Charter School Board, which basically directly
takes that out of any oversight of the counties in
which those schools would be housed. So right now, like

(01:15:50):
we have elections for levees, elections for bonds, and those
are all things that have a direct impact upon our
community schools. However, when Patricier Rucker created the Charter School Board,
that took out any control even that by a board
of education which is locally overseen by this community. That

(01:16:13):
took it out of their hands and basically put it
into a state appointed board that can make those decisions
for our local communities. So therefore it took it out
of any voters' hands whether or not a charter school
would be good for their community or not, and basically

(01:16:35):
just dropped it dropped those charters into to those communities.

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
Sam As I've read more about this if I. As
I've read the various filings, it seems to boil down
to Article twelve, Section ten of the West Virginia Constitution,
which talks about creating an independent free school district or
organization and less a majority of the voters in the
affected districts approve it. As you just explained, that's a
rather old section of code that hasn't been modified. There

(01:17:03):
was no thought of a charter school when that was
given credence. It would seem that it was more about
preventing the legislature from redrawing school districts. Is it reasonable
to conclude that the founders of that particular section of
the code and the constitution did not contemplate a charter school,

(01:17:24):
therefore it shouldn't apply.

Speaker 22 (01:17:27):
Well, that would be like saying anything that's in our constitution,
either state or national constitution, would have to be decided
upon and through a vote of that state interpretation is
left up to judges and lawyers of course, and legislators.

(01:17:49):
So if indeed they think that that constitution is out
of date, then it would be up to the legislature
and the voting public in West Virginia to decide upon that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Sam. Is this about fairness or opposition to charter schools?

Speaker 22 (01:18:05):
This this is about fairness as a taxpayer. As a
taxpayer to decide where your money goes within your community.
You know, my driveway needs paved, and if I said
I would like for my taxes that go toward roads
that basically go to pay for my driveway to be paved,

(01:18:27):
you can imagine what further deterioration we would have with
our state roads. This is more about UH community input,
UH community and how these types of things can impact
our community schools, our established community schools, and how how
we can better educate our children.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
So what happens next? I mean surely this is going
to be appeal that would end up at either I
don't know if it would go to the Intermediate court
now or the Supreme Court. But talk to us about
what you understand the next steps will be in and
what you will do. I assume you'll continue to advocate
for your position as this goes further in the legal process.

Speaker 22 (01:19:06):
Yeah, I'm sure that this will be appealed. You know,
the direction that would take would be up to up
to the courts, and if we do see an appeal, yeah,
I'd be happy to meet that. We have to also
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University of Charleston Stadium and Laidleyfield the high School Football Championships.

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Four games, champions and we had four pretty darn good
football games. Kyle Wiggs was there on the call on
the Metro News Radio Network and Metro News TV app.
He joins us from the Sports Hub over at the
Greer Building. Good morning, Kyle, Good morning man. I was
trying to think driving home over the weekend from the
championships the last time we had obviously four We've only

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had four games a couple of years. But every game, Kyle,
was competitive, and three of the four games came down
to the final possession. This was a great weekend of
high school football.

Speaker 29 (01:22:29):
It was a great weekend and it just shows the
competitive nature of high school football in the state. And
I think if you've listened and paid attention all the
way through the guys on Wednesday night, Joe and Fred
and Dave Jecklin. They talked all year about how deep,
in particular Double and TRIPLEA were and I think that

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played out all the way through the playoffs, and then
you get two classic state championship games. And in four A,
it looked like early the season, through most of the season,
it looked like it was gonna be Martinsburg and Huntington again.
But some other teams improved, particularly Morgantown, and we've watched
closely from right here in Morgantown about how that program

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not only has improved year by year, but it seemed
like this year in the back half of the season,
they improved game by game. So it got down to
the final four there in four A, and you had
University who had gotten better. You had Jefferson who was
maybe the most improved team in the state in the

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second half all the games they won. And then of
course Morgantown High and Morgantown breaks through gets to the finals,
and Maddox twig on both sides of the football. He
was a huge story there. So just incredibly competitive in
those three classifications. And then if you watched the single
A game, it was just incredible to watch that young

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man run the football. Yeah, k Coronas, Yeah, set the
record for rushing yards in a championship game and just
scored all the touchdowns.

Speaker 11 (01:24:08):
So it was.

Speaker 29 (01:24:09):
It was a remarkable weekend with incredible individual performances in
very very compelling and competitive games.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
Kyle whe Way through that quite a contest. It came
down to the end there, twenty eight to twenty one
victory for Morgantown. But walk us through that final play
series there and what happened, what transpired, well.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
It was interesting.

Speaker 29 (01:24:30):
I mean, Morgantown's defense again improved as the season went along,
and the defense put them in a position to win
that contest, making Martinsburg have to score in the final minutes,
in the final seconds, and Martinsburg gets the ball, they
hit some plays, they move it down the field and

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then first of all, they got the defensive stop of Morgantown.
Morgantown had it with under three minutes to go and
Martinsburg they stopped Morgantown. And the curious thing about it was,
at least from my vantage point, was that they had
a time out left but didn't use it. After they
got the third down stop against Morgantown, let the Mohegans

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run the clock down. That cost them about forty seconds.
They eventually punted and Martinsburg took it down the field,
got into scoring position, and then it's I think TJ.
It was just a situation where the Martinsburg players and
coaches weren't used to being in. I mean, they did
lose a couple of games this year, and they had
a tight one against Huntington, but they're in that situation

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where it's coming down the stretch and it's stressful and
it's tight and you gotta be perfect. And they ended
up spiking the ball on first down, which I think
everybody forgot about. They run a second down play, they
run a third down play with a quarterback draw, and
I think they just simply lost track of the downs,

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probably the coaches and the player both, so they thought
it was third down. It was actually fourth down. They
spike it again and game over. Ball went over on
downs to Morgantown. Morgantown runs out the clock and wins
the championship.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
And Kyle on Saturday, let's go to that double a game.
Frankfurt Bluefield. Bluefield drives down the field, Bluefield scores on
a big play, gets the two point conversion. It looks
like this game's headed for overtime, and then Frankfurt Kevin
head coach Kevin Whiteman reaches into that bag of tricks.

Speaker 29 (01:26:29):
Yeah, we talked to him and it's going to be interesting.
I'm sure between our show at six o'clock, the sports
Line and High School sports Line will get into more
depth on this. But I think coach Whiteman told us
after the game, or maybe it was the player, that
they had only put that play in about a week ago,
and it was it just worked to perfection. It was

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a direct snap to the running back. You know, the
quarterback was still in the game. The running back, Braden
Tyler was there. Blake Jacobs was the quarterback. He was
still in the game. But the direct snap to Tyler
rolled to his right and gave that drew the defense up.
That sucked everybody up, and it gave his teammate Keaton
Nestor the opportunity to run past everybody and get wide open.

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And Tyler put it on the money and Nestor ran
it in. It covered forty three yards. There was just
three seconds left. But again, that's what makes all of
this exciting and compelling. When a coach pulls out a
play like that and however long they repped it, whether
it was one week or two weeks or who knows,
but the kids executed it perfectly and it wins him

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a state championship. And again that's that's one of those
things that just makes this you know, a special time
and just incredible games.

Speaker 4 (01:27:46):
Title at a Metronews WV metro News dot com, Princeton
edges Nitro. Yeah, thirty six thirty five. I watched a
bit of that on the Metro News TV app. Great
crowd too, Oh it sounded like for that game.

Speaker 29 (01:27:58):
Yeah, Princeton, their was I mean they just had thousands
of people there and then Nitro had probably I guess
the closest trip of anybody in the four games, so
they they brought the whole town as well, and it
was loud. I mean, they both sides made a lot
of noise, but that was you know, another thing that

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the guys talked about, Joe Briccado and Fred and Dave
leading up to that game was, you know, everybody expected offense,
but those two teams are excellent defensive teams, I mean
really good defensive teams. And it held that way most
of the way. I believe it was seven to seven
at the half, and then all of a sudden it
opens up and they just went crazy offensively in the

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fourth quarter, and Princeton in particular, they score twenty three
points in the fourth quarter. And again a couple of
things there. Princeton scores the touchdown with Mosser, and they
had the extra point. They were ready to kick the
extra point. They get an off side penalty move it,
so they decided to go for two, and that gives

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them that extra point that ultimately was the game winning point.
Nitro comes down and scores, and they had their extra
point team ready to go, but they called a time out,
went to the sidelines, talked about it, then came back
out and went for two, and of course Princeton made
that one final defensive play, batting the ball away in

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the end zone, and that preserved a thirty six to
thirty five victory. But again that just shows you how
razor close, how razor thin the margin is. Princeton decides
to go for two and they get it. Nitro goes
for has the extra point, team out looks like they're
gonna go for the tie and go for overtime. They

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changed their mind. They bring out their two point, their
offense back and don't convert on the two point conversion.
So again, was that game was as thrilling as maybe
we've ever seen in the finals.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
You know, Kyle, I was thinking about this as well
driving home. A lot of time to think when you're
on the road leaving these events, Kyle, the entire playoffs,
from quarterfinals through the championships. I thought we had a
great postseason. I thought this was a great season overall
of high school football in West Virginia. And to look ahead,
because that's what we do, specifically Class four A. There
is a ton of talent coming back next year. Most

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of Martinsburg's teams back twigs. Only a sophomore at Morgantown
University has the quarter Harrison Helbig is back the quarterback,
a ton of receivers. There's a ton of talent, is
what I'm saying coming back next year. Yeah.

Speaker 29 (01:30:31):
Bluefield, who you know, just missed winning a championship this year.
They started eight sophomores and just two seniors. They've got
a sophomore quarterback that threw for three thousand yards. So
you're right, and you know the playoffs, this year had
a little bit of everything. Last year, if I remember correctly,
there weren't really any upsets, particularly in the early rounds.

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This year we had a little bit of chaos. We
had some chaos and round two, even round one, but
you know, we had Bridgeport get knocked off. We had
University go on the road and beat Huntington. You know again,
Chapmanville knocks off Bridgeport. They advanced the Semis and get
beat So you know, we had we had some upsets,
we had a little bit of chaos, but you know,
ultimately the best teams get to Charleston and we end

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up with with three classic games and four very very
good games.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Kyle twenty seconds, what are you talking to tonight on
sports Line.

Speaker 29 (01:31:25):
Well, Glennville State's got a new football coach, Jake Castiel.
We've got him booked for the show, and we'll probably, uh,
we'll do a deep dive here into one of these
championship games and maybe have a player or two on.
Haven't decided yet which one we're going to talk about,
but we'll focus on one tonight, probably one tomorrow night,
so we'll we'll take a deep dive into one of

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these classic championship games.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Kyle Wiggs, metion new sports host of the Metro News
Sports Line, coming up six oh six to seven on
many of these same Metro Neese radio stations. All Right,
let's go play some basketball, Kyle. Yeah, it's time.

Speaker 4 (01:31:58):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
All right, Kyle, appreciate yet, buddy. Thank you. Comprehensive coverage
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