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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Ladies and gentlemen, Pull the rip chord and get out
of space. This is something out of a science fiction
drama a movie, except it's really happening. NASA has carried
out its first ever medical evacuation from the International Space Station.
Astronauts returned to Earth from space. Now you might remember

(01:14):
last year that there was an issue where some astronauts
who were supposed to be up there for eight days
ended up being there for was it eight months? Maybe
more than like that. It was some issue. Well, this
is something different. The International Space Station had its first
ever medical evacuation of the astronauts. Four person crew came

(01:35):
back to Earth after an InOrbit health emergency. It's a
crew eleven capsule, it's called and it splashed down in
the Pacific Ocean off the coast of San Diego at
three point forty one am while you slept. And it
was a ten hour return flight after leaving the ISS

(01:56):
the day before, and that's not normally I guess how
they do this, but it was prompted by a medical
issue surgeons determined would not be fully treatable in microgravity.
So you were sort of always wondering maybe when something
like this would happen. There were NASA astronauts and a
Japanese astronaut and a Russian cosmonaut, and the spacecraft fired

(02:19):
its engines to d orbit at two point fifty am.
Then there was a fiery re entry through the Earth's atmosphere,
and they had four parachutes to slow down the descent
before splashing into the ocean. There's a recovery vessel with
medical personnel and they retrieved the capsule at sea and
took a look at the health assessments, and then they

(02:40):
transported the astronauts by helicopter to the Johnson Space Center
in Houston for further evaluation. They haven't identified which crew
member it was or what the nature of the condition was,
citing medical privacy, but what could it be that caused
NASA to bring the crew home out of an abundance

(03:02):
of caution, And they said the medical episode was serious
and would require medical care on Earth. And I guess
the astronaut was in stable condition, not in immediate danger
at the moment. And they had to cancel a spacewalk
while they were up there on January eighth, So there

(03:23):
were a lot of questions, and there were boats swarming
the capsule as it bobbed on the top of the water,
and then they pulled the craft to the recovery vessel
after the splashdown. So the hatch was opened at three
nineteen am, and that gave them their first breath of
fresh air since August first, when they flew up to

(03:43):
the International Space Station and the doctors were there for
the immediate check, but the astronaut said, it's so good
to be home. This was a woman who was on
her first space mission. Each astronaut put on a stretcher.
They've been in zero gravity for more than one hundred days,
so you can imagine trying to walk after something like that.

(04:06):
And they, I guess, train for this kind of thing
in case it happened, and they knew exactly how to
deal with it and everything. But what went on up there,
I guess maybe we'll find out more. The International Space
Station is two hundred and fifty miles above Earth and
it functions as a research lab. It's going to be
decommissioned in twenty thirty and it'll break up over the atmosphere,

(04:30):
somewhere over what they call Point Nemo in the Pacific Ocean,
and it's a spacecraft graveyard where if they have things
that need to burn up, they burn up and they
crash over there. We're going to talk with doctor Christian Greer,
the president and CEO of the Michigan Science Center, a
little bit later today. There's some other questions to ask

(04:53):
him about. Stay right there, we'll be right here. Michigan's
Timothy Busfield, the US Marshal's Fugitive Task Force, raided his
home in Highland, naked, New York and planning to arrest him.
I guess they came with their guns locked and loaded,
but by the time they got there, he had already

(05:16):
turned himself into the cops in New Mexico, Timothy Busfield
drove two thousand miles in three days to hand himself
in in Albuquerque, but the armed raid went on ahead
at his house and it lasted twenty minutes. But of
course he wasn't there. Why is tim Bussfield, who's been
fairly accessible to this program. He's married to TV star

(05:38):
Melissa Gilbert. Well, why did he have to turn himself
into police. It's unclear exactly what happened, but Timothy Busfield
has been accused of sexual assault. He's sixty eight years old,
charged with assaulting twin boys on the set of the
TV series The Cleaning Lady from the year two thousand

(05:59):
and two till the year twenty twenty four. And he's
been also accused in court of sexually abusing a sixteen
year old girl when she was auditioning for a show.
The victim's father told police that he groped the actress
several years ago at a theater back in Sacramento, California.

(06:20):
Busfield allegedly begged the family not to report to law
enforcement if he got therapy, and the father was a
therapist and he thought that was the best thing to do,
but eventually he changed his mind because the sixteen year
old said that Busfield kissed her and put her hands
down her pants and touched her privates. The actor is

(06:42):
denying all of these accusations against him, saying everything that's
being said is completely false. And so he's submitted to
a polygraph test and he is being held in Albuquerque.
He went before a magistrate was denied bail. After he
turned himself in. He put out a video too that said,

(07:04):
I'll confront these lies. I didn't do anything to these
little boys. I was ordered to come to Albuquerque and
here I am. So he's got an attorney and it's
going to be a he said. She said, they said,
I guess against Michigan's Timothy Bussfield, who was living in
I think sort of it's a Michigan State graduate, but

(07:27):
he was living in the Brighton area. Oh dear, it's
Michael Patrick Shields with you through the AT and T microphones.
Politics is our family business. So today, Anthony FORLINI will
be back with us the Macomb County Clerk talking about
voter issues across our state, and the state Representative Mark
Tisdell will be here, Republican from Rochester Hills. What about

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cell phones and schools. That's what he wants to talk about.
Tom Barrett, Congressman from Charlotte Republican will be here as well,
and plenty of other intriguing guests. As Tony Cuthbert has
rounded up the unusual suspects, will touch base with the
Michigan Lottery, doctor John Wycoff and David Hall at Hall
Financial and the future of James Bond. We're starting to

(08:15):
get more and more details about where this franchise might
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Speaker 9 (11:35):
Dolly Parton won't be able to make her eightieth birthday
badge at the Grand Old Opry, but the show will
still go on.

Speaker 11 (11:41):
Recent health issues have forced Dolly Parton to postpone some
public appearances lately, including a residency in Las Vegas. This
weekend's tribute will include Lamy Wilson, Vince Gill, Ronda Vincent,
and Moore. Dolly posted online it means a lot to
her that people are coming together to celebrate her birthday,
and she wishes she could be there in person. This
year's Opry Goes Dolly show is scheduled for Saturday, two

(12:04):
days before her eightieth birthday.

Speaker 12 (12:07):
I'm Rory O'Neill.

Speaker 9 (12:09):
Zoe Seldania is now the highest grossing actor of all
time at the box office. Her role in the recently
released Avatar Fire and Ash has put the forty seven
year old's box office hall at more than fifteen point
four billion dollars. She takes the top spot from fellow
Marvel stars Scarlet Johanson. That's entertainment, I'm Jennifer Pulsny.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
What is going on in Iran or Iran. Well, there
are rivers of blood, true horror stories of the protest
massacres that are taking place. Doctors are talking about overflowing morgues.
There are mass gunshot wounds as the regime is cracking
down on the protesters who are seeking a more normal life.

(13:30):
And there are a key personnel by the way at
a key military base and cutter that are being advised
to evacuate. According to a US official. You see, President
Trump has warned a possible action after this deadly crackdown
on the protesters in Iran, and so Iran's been saying
there will be retaliatory strikes, and there's been a lot

(13:52):
of saber rattling. So there are sensitive plans and they
are telling people to get out of that base as
a cautionary move. What to think about that, what to
expect next is hard to say, except that when the
President draws a line in the sand, you pretty much
have to back it up. Iran has closed its airspace

(14:15):
because of the tensions with the United States. This temporary
closure came after President Trump signaled he was satisfied that
they decided not to have those executions. There were going
to be hangings yesterday and so those apparently are not imminent,
but it could be a headfake. Who knows. President Trump

(14:36):
said that Iran is stopped killing anti government protesters, and
so for the moment, he's monitoring that. What to do?
What to think? I actually had a friend yesterday who
gave me a gift. It was my name. It was
some sort of like treat sweet treat, and on the

(14:57):
side of the box it said made in Iran. It
was Iranian treats. And I thought that just feels kind
of strange, doesn't it. This is a place that you
and I have not been to. There are some Americans
who would dare to go there, but I don't think
it would be very wise, especially not now. But this
has been a tinderbox for all of our lives. Maybe

(15:21):
is coming towards some resolution MPs with you through the
AT and T microphones. And in a sense, I think
what we need is James Bond to save the day
in Iran. If only it were that simple. There is
a man called Stephen Knight who is continuing to work
on the script for the next James Bond film. He

(15:42):
was the creator of Peaky Blinders. Did you ever watch that?
And Peaky Blinders. Well, it was very popular. So he's
writing the twenty six Bond movie. They call it Bond
twenty six. There's no title left, and if there was
a title yet, they wouldn't tell you. And he said
very little about the story or the tone or the

(16:05):
direction the film will take. But he said it's bucket
list stuff if you're a British writer.

Speaker 13 (16:12):
Obviously, with Bond, what you're dealing with is now a
character of folklore. Really, it's like Robinhood or King Arthur
in the context of the culture of this country and beyond.
So you've got a treaty with respect. I can't say
anything about it other than I'm having a fantastic time.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Kamala Harris is having a fantastic time. The woman who
was vice president and the ran for president was a
senator from California and the Attorney general just bought an
eight million dollar Malibu dream house. The mansion has a
spa and a private putting green. Somebody pointed out that

(16:53):
Kamala bankrupted the Democrat National Committee and made the party
pay off her debt and wrote a book about losing
and is now splurging millions on a mansion. I don't know,
eight million in Malibu really doesn't seem like that much money.
But you know, what's she going to do? Kaja Collis

(17:16):
told lawmakers the state of the world is such right
now that it might be a good moment to start drinking.
Kaja Collis is a European Union foreign policy chief and
told leaders of the political group, but she's not much
of a drinker, but now might be the time to
start because of the events around the globe, you know,

(17:39):
with Greenland and the United States, and oh Jesus picked
a bad we could quit drinking. I guess it is
what the world being in the situation it is right now. Okay,
MPs with you. The ten most embarrassing moments from Michigan
politicians in the past year has been written by Anna

(18:01):
Hoffman and posted by something called The Michigan Enjoyer, and
here are ten key moments. US Senate candidate Mallory mcmorro
said she would throw beers at Supreme Court Justices Amy
Cony Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh. State Rep. Carrie Rhymegans made

(18:23):
a video for trans children, saying kids can contact her
office and get the drugs they need. State Rep. Lori
Pahutsky said she'd made this decision to sterilize herself because
Donald Trump got re elected. State Rep. Mi Chiong made
a video in a kitchen chopping off the head of

(18:43):
a chicken and talked about slaying Republicans. Congress Woman Debbie
Dingle fell asleep in Congress and now has the nickname
Rip van Dingle. Rashida Talib banged a spoon against a
metal pot in protest of the Palestinian genocide. Haley Stevens

(19:05):
appeared to be speaking to an empty field in Grand Rapids, exclaiming,
in the summer, you brought the heat, except nobody was there.
Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, running for governor, wanted to
illustrate her trustworthiness with a trust exercise by catching a
falling man, but she missed him and he fell into

(19:27):
the couch. The clear winner, they say, is the girl
Boss Gretchen Whitmer and her peekaboo moment covering her face
with a folder when she got caught in the Oval
office with President Trump when she was there to meet
with him but was not there to be in the
press event, so she tried to hide. There you have it.

(19:48):
That's according to Anna Hoffman at Michigan Enjoyer ps through
the AT and T microphones.

Speaker 14 (20:00):
President Trump is bringing whole milk back to school Cafeterius.
Wednesday at the White House, the President signed a bipartisan
bill reversing Obama error restrictions.

Speaker 15 (20:11):
With this legislation, schools will finally be able to expand
their offerings to include nutritious whole milk.

Speaker 14 (20:18):
The Obama rules restricted students to fat free or low
fat milk. Half of Americans are spending less time looking
at screens, and that seems to be making them happier.
Monica Nelson reports.

Speaker 16 (20:32):
A new survey from Tucker Research finds that gen Z
is actually leading the charge when it comes to unplugging,
with more than sixty percent intentionally putting down the smartphones.
Those numbers start going down. The older people are people
who report spending too much time online feel less connected
and more anxious, while those who intentionally take time to
log off report feeling more productive and present. I'm Monica

(20:54):
Nelson Health Update.

Speaker 14 (20:56):
I'm Sarah Lee Kessler.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Michigan's Big Show starring Michael Patrick Shields.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Mike Cox, candidate for governor. The Republican Business Leaders from Michigan,
the author a report that urges whoever the next governor
is to focus on education, the workforce, and business fundamentals.
Are you jake with those priorities?

Speaker 17 (21:17):
Yes, sir. Look, when you get education right, your economy
turns around, because that becomes a job creator, a job attractor.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
What do the candidates use in terms of, you know,
making themselves appealing to voters? What can you learn from
them that would make yourself appealing to someone you're dealing with,
someone in business, someone in your family, a relationship maybe
well maybe a little bit of stoicism And what does

(21:48):
that mean exactly? Well, here are a few phrases that
you can try working into your communication skills. See how
it goes. When you're having a conversation with someone and
someone says, you know what they're thinking or feeling about
an idea or a concept, lean forward and say tell

(22:09):
me more about that, and they'll open up. It's a
statement of strength. Here's another one, I don't know. Don't
be afraid to say I don't know, and then instead
of trying to solve someone's problem, lean in and say
that sounds difficult, and they'll probably tell you more about it.

(22:32):
Silence too, is a great tool to get the other
person to talk a little more. And the phrase I
appreciate you don't say I appreciate what you did, say
I appreciate you, and not just in the flipant appreciate you,
you know, like let them know they are the element

(22:52):
that brought you the important thing. It's not so much
the thing. And one of the hardest things to say
is no, because you're going to want to say yes,
and if you can't say yes, you're gonna want to
come up with an excuse. Well, I'd like to, but
but if you can say no, it's very definitive and

(23:12):
apparently it commands respect and maybe you could even respect
yourself a little bit more too, but it's hard to do.
So try these things. Tell me more about that. I'm
going to start working these into the interviews. Tell me
more about that, or I don't know, or that sounds difficult.
I remember Tim Skubik one time someone politician went off

(23:34):
on a big rant and made a big statement. He said,
what's wrong with that? I mean that was a fair
question too. Always learning and listening and sharing it with you.
It's Michael Patrick Shields through the at and t microphones.

Speaker 18 (24:02):
In VC news Radio. I'm Mark Mayfield. A crew from
the International Space Station has returned to Earth ahead of
schedule because of a sick astronaut. NASA says the US,
Japanese Russian crew from the SpaceX Crew eleven mission has
splashed down safely off the coast of San Diego. It
was the first time in the twenty five year history
of the space station that admission was cut short due

(24:22):
to a medical issue. NASA has not shared details about
the sick crew member due to medical privacy, but says
the astronaut is in stable condition. Minneapolis officials are asking
for peace after a man was hospitalized following a shooting
involving federal law enforcement in Minneapolis.

Speaker 19 (24:37):
And for anyone that is taking the bait tonight, stop
that is not helpful, go home. We cannot counter Donald
Trump's chaos with our own brand of chaos.

Speaker 18 (24:52):
Minneapolis mayor and Jacob Price spoke late Wednesday night. The
Department of Homeland Security posted a statement on X claiming
an illegal Anglian from Venezuela which on the leg after
he attacked a federal officer. DHS said both the officer
and the illegal alien are in the hospital. Two more
people allegedly involved in the attack on the officer are
in custody. The US has made its first sale of

(25:12):
Venezuelan oil. Jim Roup has more.

Speaker 20 (25:14):
CBS News is reporting the deal is valued at five
hundred million dollars. The exact details of the sale remain unclear,
but a Trump administration official says more sales are expected
in the coming weeks. This comes after the capture of
former Venezuelan president Nicholas Madoro by the US. In the
aftermath of that military operation, the White House is set
it plans to sell Venezuelan oil and control the proceeds,

(25:37):
splitting the money between the US government, US companies, and Venezuela.

Speaker 18 (25:42):
I'm Jim Roup, and the New York Giants have their
next leader. According to ESPN, the g Men are working
to finalize an agreement Mcjohn Harbaugh their next head coach.
Harbaugh spent eighteen years as the head coach of the
Baltimore Ravens. You're listening to the latest from NBC News Radio.
Meta reportedly laying off about one thousand people after Mark
Zuckerberg's big bet on the virtual world fizzled. The Facebook

(26:05):
parent company not abandoning VR, but is scaling way back.
Consumer advocate Lindsay Owens believes that Google is trying to
upsell users with ads that feature higher priced items. She
says the company's AI shopping agents can utilize the user's
search history to promote more expensive stuff. Google disagrees and
tells tech Crunch that consumers won't be shown at price
that's higher than what someone would find on a site.

(26:27):
San Francisco Stortup says they figured it out a way
to make ammonia with less energy. Amobia says they can
make the chemical with less heat and pressure than traditional methods.
Ammonia is key to making fertilizer for farmers around the world,
but the chemicals production accounts for about two percent of
global greenhouse gases. And the company behind the Neo robot
is releasing a new AI model that promises to learn
new information. One X says the World model will help

(26:49):
the humanoid robots learn new topics without being prompted, and
plans to shift the robots to home sometime this year.
Tech report on Mark Mayfield.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Well, I think that everyone could probably agree with that.

Speaker 21 (27:26):
Yes, why would you go to Ohio?

Speaker 3 (27:40):
It's Michael Patrick shields with you through the AT and
T microphones, radio stations across the state of Michigan and
worldwide ATMI big show dot com. If you listen to
the A List Our podcast by attorney Andrew Abood, he
speaks to interesting people and actually spoke to me in
addition to those interesting people. And it's listed wherever you

(28:03):
get your podcasts, but it's called the A List Hour.
And most recently he interviewed Curtiser of Chella Junior, the
Democrat party chair, and they talked. And there are some
others on there too, including Dan Olson from Michigan who
played on the PGA tour. And we may have a clip.
Do we have a clip? Should we play it a

(28:23):
little bit later? I think we should because Anthony Foorlini's
on the line right now, the Macombe County Clerk, former
state representative, Republican candidate for Secretary of State. Thank you
for being here and welcome to the program. Happy New
Year to you.

Speaker 22 (28:38):
Happy do your MPs. It's great to be on your show.
I appreciate it. I'm looking outside it looks like right
after I get done here and we have to shovel
the snow here today don't.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
To have people for that at your level. I don't know.
This is Michigan. We're all in it together, aren't we.

Speaker 23 (28:56):
That's right, that's right, that's okay.

Speaker 22 (28:58):
We haven't had much here on the east side of
the state, so little bit now doesn't hurt us.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Good thing it is an election day, or people wouldn't
be going to the poll. Wait a minute, they can
mail in their vote and I don't know, maybe someday
they'll be able to vote on their smartphone and they
won't have to go anywhere at all. But that's a
long way off. When the voting system that we have
right now, which we thought was most dependable, turns out
it might not be.

Speaker 22 (29:23):
Well, you know, you know, there's so many things out there,
and I'm the kind of guy that likes proof before
I say anything, And it was kind of crazy. In
our office. We had a situation where we had so
many jurors that were non citizens that we had, you know,

(29:44):
let them off of jury duty. And I started thinking
about that just a couple of months ago. I says,
wait a minute, how did you even get in this?
How is that even possible? You know, we don't have
seventeen year olds coming in for jury duty. Why is
it we have non citizens being And then it occurred
to me on the other end, wait a minute, I'm
going to put these names up against the qualified voter

(30:08):
file and see what was going on. Well, we had
two hundred and thirty nine over a short period of
time the last four months that were non citizens on
the qualified voter roll I'm sorry, on the jury pool.
Fourteen of those were actually on the QBF. So that's

(30:29):
a problem. We had fourteen non citizens show up that
they potentially could have walked in and voted at any
of the precincts that they're registered in. This is a
major problem because this is a small sampling, and we're
going to look a little bit deeper into this, a
little bit further back. We're going to continue looking at
it forward because in that sampling of fourteen, twenty one

(30:50):
percent of them three actually voted, They have a voting record.
One of them actually voted multiple times. So we heard
about the the student over in ann Arbor made a
big deal about the Chinese citizen that.

Speaker 24 (31:06):
Voted.

Speaker 22 (31:07):
Well we got three now three more, and it's a
small sampling. I think this is bigger than anyone ever realized.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Do you think that it's people who just don't understand
how it works or how it's supposed to work, or
they are operating in a farious way purposely to vote
when they know they're not qualified too.

Speaker 22 (31:28):
Well, there's obviously a hole in the system. And let's
be honest, a foreigner that's been here, maybe living in
this country for a period of time with a green card,
fills something out is that it's so simple to get in.
It says, am I a US citizen. Well, he might
be thinking, yeah, I live in Clinton Township. I've been
living here my whole life or a good part of
my life. Yeah, I'm a citizen. Well that answer would

(31:51):
be not proper. But with a language barer, there might
have been an innocent mistake. Let's just assume that for
moment's sake, right, But then it goes further down. Here's
the real tricky part. If you don't there's a box
that says, if you don't have a driver's license, if
you don't have a Michigan ID, and you don't have
a Social courity number, check this box. Now you're in.

(32:13):
It's that simple to get into vote. If you're a
non citizen and I say that it's illegal, but some
people just don't understand the ramifications of that.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
And when they go to vote, they have to show
some form of ID right that matches their name on
that list.

Speaker 22 (32:31):
Well, they can, they don't necessarily have to write I mean,
they're on the list. And that's why there is so
much controversy right now that we want people Now this
petition that's going around that is talking about the must
be a citizens citizens only voting, that is going to

(32:51):
be critical. And you know what the system squad to
allow people in that easy. It really should be on
the onus of the Secretary of State's office. Then when
they get an application to register to vote, there should
be a national database that can go to yes or no?
Is that person a US citizen? If it's yes, you're in.
If it's a no, it stops there. It shouldn't be

(33:14):
self reporting. Self reporting is dangerous. It could affect face
it could affect jury trials. We're a person who wants
the honor of being a juror not a citizen. Checks
it off wrong, it's self reporting, and all of a
sudden they find themselves on a jury trial. You know,
we're expected to be judged by our peers, American peers,

(33:37):
not foreign peers. So this is a bigger problem than
just voting. I think it's a little bit more widespread,
and we as citizens need to take back control of
our voting and of our jury process.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
So if somebody says to you, Anthony Foorlaney, candidate for
Secretary of State, well it's just one Chinese student and
a couple people here and there. You know, elections are
decided by much bigger numbers than that. How can that
be really important? How do you answer that?

Speaker 22 (34:08):
Well, listen, every vote matters, every vote counts. It's you know,
there's three just in mccon County and a very small sampling.
This is much bigger than that. And the once we
start putting these numbers out and we start looking further
into it, and we're going to put a little bit
of how we did it to all the corks across

(34:29):
the state, say this is how we found it, here's
how we went about it. You may want to apply
this method against your own database and see what you have.
I'm going to be interested to see how this number
starts multiplying.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
It is it presumed that somebody who's not a citizen
and gets to vote, is going to vote Democrat for
some reason.

Speaker 22 (34:52):
No, No, this isn't what that's about. It's the sanctity
of the ballot itself. It doesn't matter who you are.
I mean, if there in the Republic, I'm sure Democrats
would be pretty upset. But it just seems like right
now it's a one sided argument that Republicans are arguing
that citizens should be only voting.

Speaker 8 (35:10):
Now.

Speaker 22 (35:10):
I say that, but it's really an eighty percent rule
that everybody is out there. But you know, I don't
want to make it a partisan thing. I want to
make it an issue that we got to fix. We
have to fix it, and if we all get together
to fix it, there shouldn't be any opposition.

Speaker 23 (35:26):
Let's just fix it.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Getting the nomination of your party to be the candidate
for Secretary of State because it's not a primary vote,
seems like one of the most complicated and difficult things
to do. So we salute you for going through that process.
And the microphones are open to you when you want
to talk. As that unfolds, he is Macomb County Clerk
and was a state representative. He's Anthony Forlini and you

(35:49):
can hear the passion in his voice about getting it
right beyond partisan politics. Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 18 (38:02):
In VC news Radio. I'm Mark Mayfield. A crew from
the International Space Station has safely splashed down in the
waters of the Pacific off the coast of California. The
four members of the SpaceX Crew eleven had their mission
cut short due to an undisclosed medical issue. A two
bill spending package to fund large parts of the federal
government is now passed through the House.

Speaker 12 (38:22):
Jim Roop reports.

Speaker 20 (38:23):
The legislation, which passed on a three forty one to
seventy one vote, combines funding for the State and Treasury departments,
as well as the Federal Trade Commission and the IRS.
Democrat demands for stricter rules for ice agents following the
fatal shooting in Minneapolis last week has forced republicandst to
remove the Department of Homeland Security from this funding bill.
The legislation now heads to the Senate.

Speaker 18 (38:45):
I'm Jim Roop, and President Trump is expected to meet
with Venezuelan opposition leader Maria and Carino Machana at the
White House today. She won the twenty twenty five Nobel
Peace Prize and pledged to share it with Trump. Mark Mayfield,
NBC News Radio.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
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(39:42):
Those are some of the ways that you can play.
And very often when we're looking at mega millions jackpots
or powerball jackpots, I always say, you know, well I
hope I win, and if I can't win, I hope
somebody in Michigan wins that that money stays here to
some degree. Well, we have an announcement today that comes
every year, and that is about the winning that takes place,

(40:06):
not just from you and me in the scratch off
tickets and the powerball and all the other games that
we play, but the guaranteed winner, that guaranteed winner every
year is the schools Jake Harris, player relations manager for
the Michigan Lotteries, on our AT and T line, thank
you for being here and welcome back to the program.

Speaker 27 (40:26):
Well, good morning, thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Tell us about that winner, the School Aid Fund, which
is on a fifty year winning streak, as I understand.

Speaker 27 (40:36):
Well, that's a good way to put it. Of course,
you know, everything we do with the lottery is focused
on maximizing revenue for the School Aid Fund and very
proud of of the work that we do in that realm.
And you know, just last week was announced that our
contribution to School Aid Fund this year eclipsed one billion
dollars for the seventh straight years. That's something that we're

(40:58):
very proud of. And it's been a heck of a
good run.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Over a billion dollars for that many years to the
School Aid Fund because the lottery is being played, and
that is something that makes us feel good about playing
because we are doing that, and that's something that was
sort of built into the lottery from the very beginning.

Speaker 27 (41:20):
That's correct, Ever since the lottery began in nineteen seventy two,
all of the proceeds from the lottery have supported public
education in Michigan, and you know, I think that's something
that really sets us apart. You know, there's some other
options out there when you're talking about gaming.

Speaker 23 (41:34):
Of course, you know, if you.

Speaker 27 (41:35):
Play the lottery and you don't win that jackpot, you
can feel good to know that you are helping your
community through helping public schools and also local businesses where
you purchased that ticket. Or went and cast it in
if you were a big.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Winner one point one six billion dollars this year, as
I understand it, even the governor took notice of that
and talked about how that's going to make a difference
for our kids, and we can all keep working together.
So for every let's say one dollar that we would
spend on the lottery, how much of that dollar goes
to the schools.

Speaker 27 (42:07):
So for every dollar that you spend, about twenty five
cents is going back to the schools, so to support
public education and contribution to school aid fund. And you know,
then there's other parts of that dollar that are broken
out as well, like sixty three cents to go to
players as prizes, nine cents go to commissions for retailers,
which you know many of those are small and you know,

(42:28):
local family owned businesses. And then just about three cents
of every dollar is used for lottery operations. So really
it's pretty efficient to operation, and that's again something we're
very proud of the lottery.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
You've made the lottery accessible via the app and the website,
and the games have evolved and changed. There are more
options now than ever before. To play. Do you know
what percentage of people play at retailers versus play on
the app or on the website.

Speaker 27 (42:57):
Well, you know, I can tell you anecdotally the vast
majority of our play has done at retail you know.
I think that's something that you know, for most of
that fifty years, that was the only way to play.
And you know, there's something about going into a retailer
and purchasing a ticket. When they handed that piece of
paper you're holding on to agree, you know, until that

(43:17):
drawing takes place, so that that piece of paper gives
you a chance to really think about what you would
do if you want. So that's where most players choose
to play. Of course, the app is super convenient, and
you know, it's something that you are sitting at home
and the drawing is about to take place and you
forgot to pick up your ticket. You can jump in
there and grab one online.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
How is Megamillions doing now that the price has been raised?

Speaker 27 (43:42):
You know, the Mega Millions game is doing well. We
obviously just coming off a pretty big jackpot run with Megamillions,
And you know, I think players over the course of
times have told this time and time again that they
like those huge, huge jackpots. So you know that change that.

Speaker 23 (43:58):
Took place about a year ago.

Speaker 27 (43:59):
Does he'lp us get to those huge jackpots. And it's
something that I think, you know, players are responding and
you know, choosing to play that game and drive those
jackpots up.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
I am quite famous or infamous if you were, for
handing out lottery tickets to people. I give them out
not only during the holidays, but I usually keep a
pocket full. Sometimes I pass it out as a tip,
whatever it might be, and it brings me such joy
when I run into somebody down the road and say, hey,
one on that ticket you gave me, you know, and
it might have been seven dollars, or it might have

(44:32):
been a free ticket or whatever it was, but it
brightens people's day in a funny kind of a way.
So I appreciate that very much. And I'm sure it
was a big holiday season too. And you know, the
lottery also is pretty keen to develop games that are
you know, loyalty based. For instance, they might have a
sports team on there or a holiday theme and that

(44:55):
kind of thing, and it gives people something to smile about.
And so does more than a billion dollar to the
school every year. What's coming up next? What can you
give us a preview of in terms of lottery games
and styles.

Speaker 27 (45:07):
Well, I can tell you that you know, just to
hear in a couple of weeks when our February games launch.
It's what we call a family of games. So it's
a consistent theme across several price points, starting with a
two dollars ticket, going all the way up to a
twenty dollars ticket. It's going to be the Bonus scratch
multiplier family. And it's a different looking ticket than what

(45:28):
we've done before. It's kind of a black ticket with
a lot of neon colors that really pop. So I
think it's a pretty cool looking ticket. You can win
anywhere from just a couple of bucks all the way
up to two million dollars on that twenty dollars ticket.
So those are coming out, and I think people will
definitely notice those at retailers because they do really pop
off the shelf.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Well, we'll have the look of the Irish coming up
with Saint Patrick's Day not too far from now. That
might be an option for you to to give those
away on Saint Patrick's Day or any day well thank
you on being day. Oh right, what a sweet treat
that would be appreciate it very much and appreciate what
you've done for the schools. And we love sharing lottery

(46:08):
news on this program. It's Michael Patrick Shields. We keep
you up to date on the jackpots and we dream.
Jake Harris helps us do that, the player relations manager
for the Michigan Lottery with MPs through the AT and
T microphones. Come on Cupid, let's have a winner.

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Speaker 30 (47:29):
Let's start in the NFL.

Speaker 31 (47:31):
The Giants and former Ravens head coach John Harbaugh, according
to ESPN, are working to finalize an agreement to make
him their next head coach. NBA, the Clippers knocked off
the Wizards one nineteen, one oh five for their fourth
straight win. Kawhi Leonard game high thirty three. Head coach
Tylo says. Leonard was big.

Speaker 32 (47:52):
Making seven threes, you know, seven out eleven threes, but
you know, down a stretching that fourth quarters just taken
over the game. And then you know, we was able
to get some stop defense, which elpisode a lot.

Speaker 31 (48:02):
The Clippers a perfect twenty seven for twenty seven from
the line. College Oops, Texas crushed a thranked Vandy eighty
sixty four, sending the Commodores to their first loss of
the season. On the ice, Sabers scored two in the
first two in the second skate pass the Flyers in Buffalo.
Sabers have won fourteen of their last sixteen games.

Speaker 30 (48:26):
That's sports. I'm Ron tamosas.

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Speaker 3 (49:00):
Speaking of Saint Patrick's Day, our broadcast will be brought
to you by Paul Long and the Michigan Catholic Conference
on the greatest holiday of the year, March seventeenth, falls
on a Tuesday this year for Saint Patrick's Day. It's
Michael Patrick Shields and I was recently on set in
a small background part on an Apple TV show called
Presumed Innocent, and we shot it in a church. I

(49:21):
can't say too much about it, except what surprised me
when I went through hair and makeup is, first of all,
the hair person took one look at me and said, oh,
we got to do something with him. They sent me over,
thanks lady, and I ended up getting a haircut on set.
But my Irish clota ring which is worn on my

(49:43):
left hand, on my pinky finger, the costuming lady says,
can you move that to your wedding finger and turn
it around so the clotta is facing you so it
looks like you're taken? Now. This scene was set in Boston,
where you know there's a great Irish in fluence there.
But it surprised me the level of detail that they

(50:04):
went to on something like that. You know that you
didn't think anyone would notice a ring like that on
a finger of a background actor. But they're paying attention
to the details for sure. And well, I better say
no more than that. There was something else I was
going to tell you, But they gave us a mourner
card because it was a funeral and it was all
printed out with the man's name and picture and the

(50:25):
years that he lived, and there was a religious quote
from Amos five twenty four and was last I knew
there was no book of Amos, but that's okay. It's
fine print. Blue Cross has Michigan covered head to toe,
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(50:49):
including where. It looks like John Harbaugh will be coaching
next year from Tony Cuthbert.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
It appears the Giants will be the destination as John
Harball was there yesterday meeting with the brass and he
was there for a good amount of time. He eventually left,
and now the reports are leaking that he will be there.
After eighteen years with the Baltimore Ravens, he will be
going to the Giants.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
I mean, I.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Guess he can make it there, can pretty much make
it anywhere. But I wish him a lot of luck.
I mean, my goodness, it's the Giants. They've been terrible forever,
but they are one of the big time franchises in
the NFL. It was a ten to thirty pm Eastern
time tip off last night for the University of Michigan
men's basketball team against the Washington Huskies, and they escaped
with a win eighty two to seventy two. That's brought

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Speaker 3 (51:35):
Good listing all day long and the great radio station
you're tuned two right now are at amibig show dot com.
I named Michael Patrick Shields. Let's keep talking.

Speaker 18 (51:52):
In VC News Radio. I'm Mark Mayfield. A crew from
the International Space Station is safely splashed down in the
waters of the Pacific off the coast of California. The
four members of the SpaceX Crew eleven had their mission
cut short due to an undisclosed medical issue. A two
bill spending package to fund large parts of the federal
government is now passed through the House.

Speaker 12 (52:12):
Jim Roop reports.

Speaker 20 (52:13):
The legislation, which passed on a three forty one to
seventy one vote, combines funding for the State and Treasury Departments,
as well as the Federal Trade Commission and the IRS.
Democrat demands for stricter rules for ice agents following the
fatal shooting in Minneapolis last week has forced REPUBLICANDUST to
remove the Department of Homeland Security from this funding bill.
The legislation now heads to the Senate.

Speaker 18 (52:35):
I'm Jim Roop, and President Trump is expected to meet
with Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Carino Machana at the White
House today. She won the twenty twenty five Nobel Peace
Prize and pledged to share it with Trump. Mark Mayfield
NBC News Radio.

Speaker 34 (52:48):
Expect mostly cloudy skies throughout the Northeast, with a few
flurries possible, especially across northern New England and the higher elevations.
Temperatures will hit the mid thirties like a X. Snow
continues in the snowbelt areas of the midi West in
the Great Lakes, with much of the regions staying dry
but cold. Temperatures will be in the twenties to the
low thirties. The northern plains will struggle to make it

(53:08):
into the low twenties, while the southern plains will top
out near forty degrees, with gusty winds making it feel colder.
The Southeast remains mostly sunny and warming into the fifties
to the low sixties. Warmer still toward Florida and along
the Gulf Coast. Sunshine dominates in the southwest desert areas,
with temperatures in the seventies to the low eighties. Northern
and central California We'll see lingering showers with temperatures topping

(53:31):
out of the mid fifties, while southern California sees plenty
of sunshine and highs hitting the low eighties. Rain continues
in the Pacific Northwest at the lower elevations with mountain
snow in the Cascades. Highs will be in the upper
thirties to the mid forties. That's your national forecast. I'm
Tammy Trichello.

Speaker 18 (54:02):
In VC news Radio. I'm Mark Mayfield. A crew from
the International Space Station has returned to Earth ahead of
schedule because of a sick astronaut. NASA says the US, Japanese,
Russian crew from the SpaceX Crew eleven mission has splashed
down safely off the coast of San Diego. It was
the first time in the twenty five year history of
the space station that admission was cut short due to

(54:22):
a medical issue. NASA has not shared details about the
sick crew member due to medical privacy, but says the
astronaut is in stable condition. Minneapolis officials are asking for
peace after a man was hospitalized following a shooting involving
federal law enforcement in Minneapolis.

Speaker 19 (54:36):
And for anyone that is taking the bait tonight. Stop
that is not helpful. Go home. We cannot counter Donald
Trump's chaos with our own brand of chaos.

Speaker 18 (54:51):
Minneapolis mayor and Jacob Price spoke late Wednesday night. The
Department of Homeland Security posted a statement on x claiming
an illegal Anglian from Venezuela was shot in the leg
after he attacked a federal officer. DHS said both the
officer and the illegal alien are in the hospital. Two
more people allegedly involved in the attack on the officer
are in custody. The US has made its first sale
of Venezuelan oil. Jim Roup has more.

Speaker 20 (55:14):
CBS News is reporting the deal is valued at five
hundred million dollars. The exact details of the sale remain unclear,
but a Trump administration official says more sales are expected
in the coming weeks. This comes after the capture of
former Venezuelan president Nicholas Madoro by the US. In the
aftermath of that military operation, the Whitehouse is set it
plans to sell Venezuelan oil and control the proceeds, splitting

(55:37):
the money between the US government, US companies, and Venezuela.

Speaker 18 (55:41):
I'm Jim Roup and the new York Giants have their
next leader. According to ESPN, the g Men are working
to finalize an agreement to make John Harbaugh their next
head coach. Harbaugh spent eighteen years as the head coach
of the Baltimore Ravens. You're listening to the latest from
NBC News Radio.

Speaker 16 (55:57):
Netflix is preparing a revised all cash offer for Warner
Brothers Discovery streaming and studio business. Netflix had already offered
a deal worth eighty three billion dollars in cash and
stock for the historic company. The new all cash offer
comes as Paramount Skuidance has attempted a hostile takeover of
Warner Brothers Discovery's entire business. Apple will use Google's Gemini

(56:20):
AI models to power its Apple Intelligent features, including an
updated version of Siri iras Spitzer with more.

Speaker 35 (56:27):
Apple had also recently tested models from Open Ai and Anthropic.
The deal is seen as a major win for Google
in its competition with those firms, as it gives them
access to Apple's base of more than two billion active
devices globally. Google's parent company, Alphabet also just became the
world's fourth four trillion dollar company on the strength of
its recent AI successes.

Speaker 16 (56:48):
Meta is reportedly laying off about one thousand people after
Mark Zuckerberg's big bet on the virtual word fizzled. The
Facebook parent company is not abandoning VR, but it's scaling
way back. Three of America's best, non its own, high
end department stores are now in jeopardy after sax Global
filed for bankruptcy this week.

Speaker 30 (57:05):
Andrew Whitman explains.

Speaker 24 (57:06):
It could be the beginning of the end for Sacks,
Fifth Avenue, Nieman Marcus, and Bergdorf Goodman. The stores just
came together in a two point seven billion dollar merger
in twenty twenty four, but the company could not renegotiate
with its vendors. As department stores continued their decline in
the US, made worse by financial pressures on shoppers. The

(57:27):
stores will stay open, question is for how much longer.

Speaker 16 (57:30):
Automakers from around the world are showing off their latest
models this week at the Detroit Auto Show. The showcase
is at the Huntington Place Convention Center in Detroit. Now,
only those in the media and the auto industry are
allowed on the showroom floor. The show will be open
to the public starting Saturday and running through the twenty fifth.
It will feature over two dozen car brands showing off

(57:51):
their new vehicles, including the latest electric and self driving models.
I'm Monica Nelson with your consumer and business news.

Speaker 31 (57:58):
Let's start in the NFL and former Ravens head coach
John Harbaugh, according to ESPN, are working to finalize an
agreement to make him their next head coach. NBA, the
Clippers knocked off the Wizards one nineteen one to oh
five for their fourth straight win. Kawhi Leonard game high
thirty three. Head coach Tylo says.

Speaker 32 (58:19):
Leonard was big, making seven threes, you know, seven out
eleven threes, but you know, down a stretching that fourth quarter,
just taking over the game. And then you know, we
was able to get some stop defensively on which help
us out a lot.

Speaker 31 (58:30):
The Clippers a perfect twenty seven for twenty seven from
the line. College Oops Texas crushed AH ranked Vandy eighty
sixty four, sending the Commodores to their first loss of
the season. On the ice, Sabers scored two in the
first two in the second skate pass the Flyers in Buffalo.
Sabers have won fourteen of their last sixteen games.

Speaker 30 (58:54):
That's sports. I'm Ron Samoss.

Speaker 34 (58:57):
Expect mostly cloudy skuys through out the Northeast, with a
few flurries possible, especially across northern New England and the
higher elevations. Temperatures will hit the mid thirties. Lake affect
Snow continues in the snow belt areas of the Midwest
and the Great Lakes, with much of the regions staying
dry but cold. Temperatures will be in the twenties to
the low thirties. The northern plains will struggle to make

(59:18):
it into the low twenties, while the southern plains will
top out near forty degrees, with gusty winds making it
feel colder. The Southeast remains mostly sunny and warming into
the fifties to the low sixties. Warmer still toward Florida
and along the Gulf Coast. Sunshine dominates in the Southwest
desert areas, with temperatures in the seventies to the low eighties.
Northern and central California we'll see lingering showers with temperatures

(59:40):
topping out of the mid fifties, while southern California sees
plenty of sunshine and highs hitting the low eighties. Rain
continues in the Pacific Northwest at the lower elevations with
mountain snow in the Cascades. Highs will be in the
upper thirties to the mid forties. That's your national forecast.
I'm Tammy Trihello.

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(01:01:12):
the voice in the newsroom would come on and read
them all and you would read every single school, you know.
Southgate schools are closed today, wind Up Public schools are
closed this morning. Our Lady of Mount Carmel Catholic School
is closed this morning. Riverview schools are closed today, Trenton,
And you'd be at home like, oh, please stay home,

(01:01:32):
Let's stay home and build a snowman or whatever it
might be. Now I think it's a little more sophisticated.
When there was a robocall that used to come, that
was like the next step and letting people know that
the weather was so cold you couldn't go to school
and there was snow and ice or whatever. And now
I suspect you get a text or maybe an email

(01:01:53):
or something like that through your almighty phone. And when
we start to talk about sell phones in schools, it
gets tricky because I just heard the other day too
that one state is going to figure out a way
to limit the amount of social media usage for underage people.
We're trying to protect people and we're trying to make

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them accessible at the same time, what is the balance.
State Representative Mark Tisdell is from Rochester Hills Republican on
our Well, how ironic he was on our radio stage
right now till his cell phone dropped. But apparently in
the legislature yesterday there was some movement. Oh there he

(01:02:36):
is reconnected and welcome back to the program, and thank
you for being here.

Speaker 8 (01:02:42):
It must have been a snow day on our connection.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
You can't make it up, ken, you when you're talking
about a phone and it drops out. But you did
create a bill because I don't know what the genesis
of it was for you to create this bill about
cell phones in the classrooms. But what is the origin story?

Speaker 8 (01:03:03):
Well, it simply the science of smartphones, social media and
the detrimental impact on our kids, teens and particularly tweens
and girls. And I've been following a psychologist out of
New York University by name of Jonathan Heite. He's been

(01:03:23):
writing about this, probably for five or six years, and
just the more I read, the more the science came
out showing causation, not just correlation. You know, I just
decided it was time to act. My first draft was
in June of twenty twenty three, and as I said

(01:03:44):
on the house floor yesterday, when I started, you know,
kind of showing that draft around, the response from people was, well,
you can't take smartphones away from kids at school. Now
thirty eight states later that have introduce statewide restrictions. You know,
the comment is, when are we going to start taking

(01:04:05):
smartphones away from kids at school? So it's been an
evolution and it's it's it's a parent and our schools
are are not knocking it out of the park or
in the bottom ten states for education. So any distraction,
anything that gets in the way of learning needs to

(01:04:25):
be needs to be tossed out the door.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
The presumption is that kids aren't paying attention during the
lesson time or the lectures or what have you because
they're you know, playing candy crush or whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:04:40):
Well it's not, it's not a presumption, it's it's just
a fact. And the schools that for example, Avondale Middle
School in Auburn Hills is now and it's maybe it's
fifth year of a bell to bell from the morning
bell to the afternoon bell, prohibition of phones. And you know,

(01:05:00):
the teachers the first thing they noticed is when they
when they step to the front of the class, they've
got thirty sets of eyeballs looking back at them. The
the hallways are noisier, the cafeteria is noisier because kids
are talking to each other. Uh uh. You know, for teachers,

(01:05:22):
the Internet is the world's greatest entertainment source and and
teachers simply can't compete with that. And so the other
thing that that dramatically changes in schools that adopt that
have adopted these restrictions and prohibitions, the drama just goes away,

(01:05:47):
the number of fights, the assaults on teachers, the you know,
imagine being a kid and knowing that cameras are focused
on you all day, you know, just ready to catch
your worst moment of the day and then post it
online to your embarrassment forever and ever. That that that

(01:06:10):
all goes away.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
So to put it simply, your bill would across the
state of Michigan, make it I don't know what the
word is, illegal, but it would ban the use of
phones during instruction time, but not when they go to
their lockers or in between classes or at lunchtime. And
that kind of thing is is that it simply put.

Speaker 8 (01:06:32):
Well right and to and to reach a consensus, had
an agreement. And Senator Paul Hankey, chair of the Education
Committee in the Senate, and you know, we we've been
working on this closely together to reach to reach an agreement.
Funny thing in Lancing, but you know, and it's just

(01:06:57):
so for introduction purpose, so as we thought it would
be easier and Senator Pohank was behind the idea of
having one set of standards for all grades. So K
through twelve it's a prohibition of smartphone use or access
during instruction time. Now K through six all day is

(01:07:22):
instruction time, so you know, that's halfway there. And of
course those as those students age and progress through the system,
it will be easier and easier for school districts to
increase the restrictions which is allowed in the law. Schools

(01:07:48):
and school districts can be more strict than what the
law provides. The gold standard across the US, and are
about eighteen states that have adopted this, and you know,
ultra blue New York State being one is a bell
to bell prohibition. The morning bell rings phones are gone

(01:08:09):
and you don't see them again until the afternoon bell rings.
But this is a very good start. I think it's
a welcome start. I know it's a welcome start among
many school districts and administrators because now they know the
state has their backs.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
You have our backs too, and I appreciate that very
much and we will keep in touch. Politics is our
family business, and this is a this is a family issue,
This is an education issue, This is a mental health issue,
all of it. And I try to pry that phone
out of a kid's hand, good luck, and I'm sure
some of them will be sneaking them in and all

(01:08:49):
that sort of thing. It's a modern new world, and
Mark Tisdale is keeping an eye on it. State Representative
Republican from Rochester Hills with MPs.

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deliver the energy that the people need to heat their homes.

(01:14:42):
There is what can best be described as a vexxine
conversation going on right now and has gone viral between
US Senator Josh Howley and a doctor who was testifying,
and he kept asking a simple question over and over
and getting well a heal your answer.

Speaker 38 (01:15:01):
Do you think that men can get pregnant?

Speaker 39 (01:15:05):
I hesitated there because I wasn't sure where the conversation
was going or what the goal was. I mean, I
do take care of patients with different identities. I take
care of many women. I take care of people with
different identities, and so that's where I paused. I think, Yeah,
I wasn't sure where you were going with that.

Speaker 38 (01:15:22):
Well, the goal is just the truth, so can men
get pregnant?

Speaker 39 (01:15:26):
Again? The reason I paused there is I'm not really
sure what the goal of the class.

Speaker 40 (01:15:31):
Goal is is to establish a biological reality. You just
said a moment ago that science and evidence should control,
not politics.

Speaker 38 (01:15:38):
So let's just test that proposition. Can men get pregnant?

Speaker 39 (01:15:42):
I take care of people with many identities, but.

Speaker 38 (01:15:45):
Can men get pregnant?

Speaker 39 (01:15:46):
Many women that can get pregnant? I do take care
of people that don't identify as women.

Speaker 38 (01:15:51):
That can Can men get pregnant?

Speaker 39 (01:15:54):
Again, as I'm saying.

Speaker 40 (01:15:56):
Let me just remind you testified to a moment ago
science and evidence should control, not politics, So.

Speaker 38 (01:16:02):
Should can men get pregnant?

Speaker 39 (01:16:05):
You're a doctor at say science and evidence should guide medicine.

Speaker 40 (01:16:09):
I do science and evidence tell us that men can
get pregnant? Biological men? Can they get pregnant?

Speaker 39 (01:16:14):
I also think yes, No questions like this are a
political tool.

Speaker 40 (01:16:17):
No, yes, No, questions are about the truth. Doctor, Let's
not make a mockery of this proceeding. This is about
science and evidence. So I'm asking you. You know the
United States Supreme Court just heard arguments yesterday at great
length on this question. This is not a hypothetical question.
This is not theoretical that affects real people in their
real lives. And you're here as an expert called by
the other side as an expert, and you've been telling

(01:16:40):
us that you that you follow right, you're a doctor,
and you follow the science and the evidence. So I
just want to know, based on the science, can men
get pregnant? That's a yes or no question, it really is.

Speaker 39 (01:16:53):
I think I think you're trying to reduce the complexity
of a lot.

Speaker 38 (01:16:57):
I'm not.

Speaker 40 (01:16:57):
I'm trying to get it's not complex. I'm trying to
get to an answer, and I'm trying to test, frankly,
your veracity as a medical professional and as a scientist.
Can men get pregnant?

Speaker 39 (01:17:08):
I think you're also conflating it's extraordinary.

Speaker 40 (01:17:12):
No, I'm not conflating male and female. There're two different things.
There's biological men and there's biological women, and I want
to know can men get pregnant?

Speaker 39 (01:17:22):
What you were talking about is biology.

Speaker 38 (01:17:24):
You're not going to.

Speaker 39 (01:17:24):
Answer my question iological males.

Speaker 38 (01:17:27):
This isn't a hard doctor. Can men get pregnant? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Or no?

Speaker 39 (01:17:33):
I would be more than happy to have a conversation
with you that is not coming from a place of
trying to be polarized and pushing.

Speaker 38 (01:17:42):
I'm not trying to be polarizing. I'm trying to ask.

Speaker 40 (01:17:44):
I think it is extraordinary that we are here in
hearing about science and about women. And for the record,
it's women who get pregnant, not men. We are here
about the safety of women and science that show that
this abortion drug causes adverse health events in eleven percent

(01:18:07):
of cases.

Speaker 38 (01:18:08):
That's twenty two times.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
You can take whatever topic you want and apply it
to that. What I'm fascinated by there is the unwillingness
to answer a direct question and to keep throwing up
smoke and fog and dancing around it and going around
to mulberry bush and it's a yes, no question that

(01:18:31):
this person was refusing, and it's a doctor, by the way,
refusing to answer, and it just was amazing to me.
And that kind of evasiveness or unwillingness to answer the
question was really amazing. And he just he seemed amazed
to Senator Alli, like, come on, boy, oh boy, where

(01:18:54):
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Speaker 18 (01:20:00):
Reportedly laying off about one thousand people after Mark Zuckerberg's
big bet on the virtual world fizzled. The Facebook parent
company not abandoning VR, but is scaling way back. Consumer
advocate Lindsay Owens believes that Google is trying to upsell
users with ads that feature higher priced items. She says
the company's AI shopping agents can utilize a user's search

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history to promote more expensive stuff. Google disagrees and tells
tech Crunch that consumers won't be shown at price that's
higher than what someone would find on a site. San
Francisco startup says they figured it out a way to
make ammonia with less energy. Amobia says they can make
the chemical with less heat and pressure than traditional methods.
Ammonia is key to making fertilizer for farmers around the world,
but the chemicals production accounts for about two percent of

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global greenhouse gases, and the company behind the neo robot
is releasing a new AI model that promises to learn
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the humanoid robots learn new topics without being prompted, and
plans to ship the robots to home sometime this year.
TECH report on Mark.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Mayfield Michigan's Big Show starring Michael Patrick shields.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
Mike Cox, candidate for governor the Republican Business Leaders for Michigan.
The author a report that urges whoever the next governor is,
to focus on education, the workforce, and business fundamentals. Are
you jake with those priorities?

Speaker 17 (01:21:18):
Yes, sir. Look when you get education right, your economy
turns around because that becomes a job creator a job attractor.

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Speaking of education, another fine university in our state is
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Tricia Keith at Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan is
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with us about the cost of healthcare and that competition
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Speaker 18 (01:24:02):
In VC news Radio, I'm Mark Mayfield, a crew from
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schedule because of a sick astronaut. NASA says the US, Japanese,
Russian crew from the SpaceX Crew eleven mission has splashed
down safely off the coast of San Diego. It was
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a medical issue. NASA has not shared details about the
sick crew member due to medical privacy, but says the
astronaut is in stable condition. Minneapolis officials are asking for
peace after a man was hospitalized following a shooting involving
federal law enforcement in Minneapolis.

Speaker 19 (01:24:37):
And for anyone that is taking the bait tonight, stop
that is not helpful, go home. We cannot counter Donald
Trump's chaos with our own brand of chaos.

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Minneapolis mayor and Jacob Price spoke late Wednesday night. The
Department of Homeland Security posted a statement on x claiming
an illegal Anglian from Venezuela we're shot on the leg
after he attacked a federal officer. DHS said both the
officer and the illegal alien are in the hospital. Two
more people allegedly involved in the attack on the officer
are in custody. The US has made its first sale

(01:25:12):
of Venezuelan oil. Jim Roup has more.

Speaker 20 (01:25:15):
CBS News is reporting the deal is valued at five
hundred million dollars. The exact details of the sale remain unclear,
but a Trump administration official says more sales are expected
in the coming weeks. This comes after the capture of
former Venezuelan president Nicholas Madoro by the US. In the
aftermath of that military operation, the Whitehouse is set. It
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the money between the US government, US companies, and Venezuela.

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I'm Jim Roup, and the New York Giants have their
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Speaker 14 (01:25:58):
President Trump is bringing whole Milk back to school Cafeterius. Wednesday,
at the White House, the President signed a bipartisan bill
reversing Obama error restrictions.

Speaker 15 (01:26:10):
With this legislation, schools will finally be able to expand
their offerings to include nutritious whole milk.

Speaker 14 (01:26:16):
The Obama rules restricted students to fat free or low
fat milk. Half of Americans are spending less time looking
at screens, and that seems to be making them happier.
Monica Nelson reports.

Speaker 16 (01:26:31):
A new survey from Talker Research finds that gen Z
is actually leading the charge when it comes to unplugging,
with more than sixty percent intentionally putting down the smartphones.
Those numbers start going down. The older people are people
who report spending too much time online feel less connected
and more anxious, while those who intentionally take time to
log off report feeling more productive and present. I'm Monica Nelson.

Speaker 14 (01:26:54):
Health Update. I'm Sarah Lee Kessler.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
From the Nation's Capital and Michigan's Capital too, radio stations
across the state of Michigan. It's Michael Patrick Shields with
Tom Barrett, member of Congress, Republican from Charlotte on our
at and t line, our radio stage. Happy New Year
to you, Happy.

Speaker 41 (01:27:35):
New year, Michael Patrick's from Capital to Capitol. Good morning
to you and your listeners.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Fantastic, welcome to the program and that is very super cool.
The President was in Michigan the other day. I think
you were in Washington probably when he was here. But
what's number one on your agenda today? And you see
you've had one lap around the calendar. Now as a

(01:28:00):
member of Congress, how's it going?

Speaker 22 (01:28:04):
I have?

Speaker 41 (01:28:04):
And you know, I think being a member of Congress
is something you can anticipate a bit, but not fully.
You know know what you're walking into.

Speaker 42 (01:28:14):
And that's fine.

Speaker 41 (01:28:15):
You know, We've got a lot of big problems to
solve in the country, and that's why I ran for office.
I wanted to fix big things and come to Washington,
d C. And you know, probably represent my community and
the families that sent me here, that our families just
like the one that I have back home, that I
leave behind when I get on a plane to come
here to wash in d C. And I don't forget
that when I come here. And I think people are

(01:28:36):
still really suffering the effects of the installed economy, the
high inflation, and the overly regulatory burden of the Biden administration,
the Biden era, and we've got to do a more
aggressive job of digging out of that. And I think
the President realizes that he's taken on some aggressive measures.
You know, I was really, you know, really interested and

(01:28:57):
thankful to see that he took on this issue of
large institutional buyers, really you know, private equity, foreign investors,
things like that, buying up massive tracts of homes in
neighborhood communities that these people have never even been to,
and that I think is one of the driving factors
of leading to the crisis we have in home ownership

(01:29:18):
right now. I actually just introduced the bill this week
that would expand the VA home loan program to National
Guard and reservists earlier than they would have otherwise been eligible.
Right now, if you're a National Guard or reservist, you've
got to serve six years before you'd be eligible for
the VA home loan program. We want to speed that

(01:29:39):
up so that more of our young men and women
serving in the military in a capacity where they might
be working in their community, wanting to lay down routes,
wanting to start and raise a family, but they're not
eligible for that VA home loan rate yet. Well, let's
get them into the program. They're being asked to serve
in a capacity now, especially during the War on Terror
in the after effect. So we know they're likely to

(01:30:01):
get deployed at some point in their service. Let's give
them that via home loan program earlier so that they
can get into a home and build a family. You know,
those are incremental movements that we can make, but bigger
changes have to be done reducing the regulatory burden on
new construction. I talk to home builders all the time,
and they tell me I can't build a two hundred

(01:30:23):
or two hundred and fifty thousand dollars home anymore because
of the regulatory environment. I have to build a four
or five hundred thousand dollars home just to fit the
regulations in and still have a clearance to pay my workers,
make a little bit of profit, and you know, continue
building other homes. So there's a lot we have to
work on. I'm working on a very aggressive reform agenda

(01:30:45):
and I'm excited to roll that out over the next
few weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
Tony Cuthbert, what would you guess a little numbers game
if you will, What would you guess the average age
in America right now is of a first time home buyer,
the first time they buy a home home. What's the
average age?

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
I would like to say like twenty five or twenty six,
but it's probably thirty three.

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
Tom Barrett, what's the answer.

Speaker 41 (01:31:08):
It's over forty years old now. I think I bought
my first home at about twenty seven. I was fresh
off a plane coming home from a deployment. My wife
had found the time. We were engaged at the time,
gave her a power of attorney, and four days after
I got off the plane, I was able to buy
a home. People can't do that today, and that's I
think having an effect of people delaying having children, having

(01:31:31):
a family, and doing those connected things in community that
we need to see for our country and our culture
to be successful. So this is a big problem, but
we're working on a lot of bigger reforms. I think
there ought to be term limits for members of Congress.
I think that we ought to lock in the fact
that our Supreme Court has nine justices so that any
you know, political power, you know, President or Congress can't

(01:31:55):
pack the court. You know, that's always a threat that
we see. Let's just constitutionally lock that in. Let's make
redistricting once every ten years. Let's make it so that
only citizens are counted for the purpose of legislative districts.
These are things that we should be doing that are
common sense, that are all, you know, tinkering with the
confidence that people have in our government right now. And

(01:32:17):
you know, I'm excited about this. I realize that a
lot of these are things that are going to take
time to do, but I think they're the right thing
to do, and I'm excited to be rolling them out.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
They're in Barrett's Blueprint for a Better America. Having been
to Washington, d C. There's like a little train that
goes down in the tunnel underneath to connect some of
the buildings to the Capitol. Do you ever wish you
were happened to be seated on that train with Nancy
Pelosi and be able to overhear her on the phone
with her stock market expert.

Speaker 41 (01:32:49):
I sure, do you know? Nancy's office is Tudor is
down from mine, and I sometimes wander by and wonder
if I can, you know, through Osmosis picked up some
of her financial you know, wizard, I've been unsuccessful in that,
but we did introduce a bill this week as well
to really ban the purchase of stocks by members of Congress. Now,

(01:33:10):
some members come here, who are you know, independently successful
in different facets of life before coming to Congress, they
might own financial holdings, and if they want to sell
those after they're here, they would have to provide notice
ahead of time to the public. But it would also
prohibit them from buying individual stocks while they are serving
as a member of Congress. And you know, they've degraded

(01:33:31):
the trust of the American people in this way, and
I think this is the appropriate way to make steps
to restore that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
Well, if you limited their ability to make money in
the stock market, maybe they wouldn't stay in Congress so
long and you wouldn't need the term limits.

Speaker 27 (01:33:45):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 41 (01:33:48):
Let's do both and see which one is more effective.
But you know, look, building wealth and becoming wealthy, that's
not wrong or bad, and that's a you know, that's
a good, you know, goal to have in life. But
it shouldn't come at the expense of the trust and
confidence of people that we represent. I made this point
in in my campaign that I've made this point as
I've introduced this bill. More than half of the members

(01:34:10):
of Congress are already millionaires, but more than half of
the people we represent certainly are not. So I think
we have to have more ordinary people coming into office
and serving in Congress who have a little bit of
awareness of what regular families are going through.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
As a veteran, are you hearing anything about Iran and
what may happen or may not happen there in the hallways.

Speaker 41 (01:34:34):
Well, I'm very, very hopeful that the people of Iran
can really just take back control of their country. I've
heard from so many people who were living in Iran
before the Ayatola and before the Islamic regime took control.
They have been a belligerent force against American interest and

(01:34:55):
really against the interests of just human rights and everything
for fifty years now. Iran is really the country that
is responsible for the death of thousands of American soldiers'
friends of mine have been killed by Iranian weapons on
the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan. And the end of
the regime of the Ayatola, the Islamic regime there cannect

(01:35:17):
come quick enough. I'm very encouraged by what we're seeing
on the ground. We've been close before where the Iranian
people have stepped up and demonstrated and protested, and sadly
they've been retaliated upon by the people by the regime
rather in Iran, and I just you know, I'm sure
not many of them are probably listening this morning, but

(01:35:39):
you know, we want to give them all the encouragement
we can. You know, if there are ways that we
can get access to technology and the Internet into the
hands of the Iranian people, I know there are efforts
underway through Starlink and other things that we are trying
to do to break the ability of the regime.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
Thank you, Congressman Tom Barrett.

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Speaker 18 (01:38:03):
In VC news Radio, I'm Mark Mayfield. A crew from
the International Space Station is safely splashed down in the
waters of the Pacific off the coast of California. The
four members of the SpaceX Crew eleven had their mission
cut short due to an undisclosed medical issue. A two
bill spending package to fund large parts of the federal
government is now passed through the House. Jim Roop reports.

Speaker 20 (01:38:24):
The legislation, which passed on a three forty one to
seventy one vote, combines funding for the State and Treasury Departments,
as well as the Federal Trade Commission and the IRS.
Democrat demands for stricter rules for ice agents following the
fatal shooting in Minneapolis last week has forced Republican industry
removed the Department of Homeland Security from this funding bill.
The legislation now heads to the Senate. I'm Jim Roop.

Speaker 18 (01:38:46):
And President Trump is expected to meet with Venezuelan opposition
leader Maria Carino Machana at the White House today. She
won the twenty twenty five Nobel Peace Prize and pledged
to share it with Trump. Mark Mayfield, NBC News Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
Well, our next guest is all about cars, and he's
come to Detroit, and he's come to Michigan to prove
it and to share it. And when he gets to
Detroit on a cold day like this and he wants
to get to stretch of the legs, I imagine he'll
be walking all over the Huntington Place at the Detroit
Auto Show, but worry to go outside. Claude Molinari from

(01:39:37):
Visit Detroit and visit Detroit dot com would steer him
to the river, to the River Walk and where Claude,

(01:40:13):
bundle up if you're going to do it. Tim Healy
is the managing editor at The Truth About Cars. He's
on our radio stage, our at and T line right now,
having come to the Detroit Auto Show. Welcome to Michigan,
Thank you, good morning. Why did you come to the
Detroit Auto Show formerly known as the North American International
Auto Show.

Speaker 23 (01:40:35):
Well, because my job as an automtive journalist requires to
check out all the new cars and all the activity
that's happening at hunting and Place, So I came here
to cover the show. I drove over from Chicago, which
is equally as cold. I'm very useless, whether it's not
unusual for me, and I'll be walking out to the
I'll be walking out of the hotel to the Huntington
Place in just a few minutes. But yeah, I'm here

(01:40:55):
to see what's going on with the show, whether it's
a new car and veil or the former I call
a manor Peach, I cannot say his last name correctly,
the former Transportation secretary speaking to media yesterday. So just
kind of checking out what's going on Huntington Place and
seeing what the industries had.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
Pete budha j Edge there lives in Traverse City. I
imagine he drove down to Detroit and you came over
I ninety four through that stretch of Pawpaw in the winter,
that road can be lethal. What sort of car are
you driving when you're the managing editor at the Truth
About Cars?

Speaker 23 (01:41:27):
So the car and testing this week is an Infinity
QX eighty, So a very big SUV with all wheel
drive should not be a challenge if I hit some
lake of tech snow as I did last year. I
lived in Michigan, briefly. But I'm from Chicago, so I'm
used to that lake of tech snow on that drive.
I'm an old handed that sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
Well, the reason I asked about why you came to
Detroit is because there's talk some times that the show
is not very much of a newsmaker anymore like it
used to be. There'll be something to obviously, But what
do you make of those criticisms of the Detroit show.

Speaker 23 (01:42:06):
Well, I don't know if it's criticism so much as
just a fact that it's not just Detroit. Chicago was
struggling with it too. The LA Auto Show was a
little bit reduced in terms of product unveils this year.
So just to kind of give your listeners a background,
until just before COVID, every one of the four or
major American auto shows in New York being the fourth,

(01:42:28):
tended to have a bunch of vehicle debuts, and over
time some shows became more important than others. Chicago had
kind of lost its luster a bit, New York became
more important, La became more important, Detroit was always the
most important one. Well, what's happened is and this was
already beginning before the pandemic and I think the pandemic
just rushed it along. Is a lot of automakers realized

(01:42:50):
if they want to unveil a new product, they can
do it at a time in sight of their choosing
and do it over zoom for less money than it
costs to arm veil a product of the auto show,
and they own more of the news cycle because they
have the whole day or a whole week, Whereas in
an auto show they would unvail a product and then
half an hour later our competitor would, So they're they're

(01:43:13):
they're unveil will get buried on the websites pretty quickly.
So back in the print days it wasn't as big
as a deal because the turnaround time was longer on
a story. But when with with the Internet being as
fast as it is, everyone who is covering press days
for a digital digital media, excuse me. You get a

(01:43:34):
story up and then half an hour later the next
press conference can go, the next story be up, So
all of a sudden, automakers get their they get their
stories up there and everyone's looking at it, and then
an hour or two later it's down the page and
it's not being seen as much. So I think automakers
are trying to own the own the news cycle by
doing events at different times and in different ways of
doing things. That being said, I still think there is

(01:43:57):
news to cover for it to unveil the new Bronco
two nights ago. Obviously, the mayor Pete being here, he
has some interesting things to say about the future in
transit and what he would do should on democratic administration
get back in power after the Trump administration is done.
So you know there was there's still news. There's still
and there's always stuff. There's always hidden things that you

(01:44:19):
don't think about or don't see. You find out about
that being here in person, whether you talk to somebody
or seasoning on the show floor, or maybe it's something
more interesting to the local area, to the to the
Detroit area. There's always stuff to do and see these
auto shows, but the product and veils have slowed down.

Speaker 3 (01:44:37):
Why is your publication called the Truth about Cars.

Speaker 23 (01:44:42):
Because we try and be as honest as possible, and
in the past the truthbaut Cars is also called out
journalists who have acted on ethically and maybe taken a
little bit too much positive influence around automaker. But the
main thing is a lot of automotive journalists can be
a little bit two nice automakers are a little bit
afraid to criticize cars. They don't want to get in

(01:45:05):
trouble with the automaker, or in some automative journalists just
sort of kind of regurgitate press releases. We try and
cut through propaganda. We try and cut through We try
and look for the truth behind a press release. And
that being said, we try and do it in a
nice way. We're not throwing bombs, we're not being unfairly critical.
But when we review a car, we just try and

(01:45:25):
be true to its cons and it's flawed or excuse me,
it's president's cons So we try and say, you know,
this is why his car is good, this is why
his car is not good, that sort of thing. And
we also try and cut through when it comes to
industry news, whether it's regulations in the government or manufacturing
strategy by an automaker. We try and look for the

(01:45:46):
truth of what's being done as opposed to what's being
said in a press release.

Speaker 3 (01:45:50):
Just forty seconds. But Tim Healey, managing editor, at the
truth about cars. What irks you most about a vehicle?

Speaker 23 (01:46:00):
So where do I start with? Only forty seconds. I
think the biggest problem right now, and this is pretty common,
is a lot of vehicles have switched to what we
call haptic touch interiors, where you touch the screen or
the button and the buttons. The button's not really a button,
it's kind of just a little bit of plastic kind
of sort of rocks a little and some of the

(01:46:21):
automakers do a nice job of it, but a lot
of automakers have done it poorly.

Speaker 3 (01:46:26):
Over engineered. Thank you very much, we'll follow your problecast
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Speaker 30 (01:47:29):
Let's start.

Speaker 31 (01:47:30):
In the NFL, the Giants and former Ravens head coach
John Harbaugh, according to ESPN, are working to finalize an
agreement to make him their next head coach. NBA, the
Clippers knocked off the Wizards one nineteen, one oh five
for their fourth straight win. Kawhi Leonard game high thirty three.
Head coach Tylo says. Leonard was big.

Speaker 32 (01:47:52):
Making seven threes, you know, seven out eleven threes, but
you know, down a stretch to that fourth quarters, just
taken over the game. And then you know, we was
able to get some stopped a fist which help us
out a lot.

Speaker 31 (01:48:02):
The Clippers a perfect twenty seven for twenty seven from
the line. College Oops, Texas crushed a th ranked Vandy
eighty sixty four, sending the Commodores to their first loss
of the season. On the ice, Sabers scored two in
the first two in the second skate pass. The Flyers
in Buffalo Sabers have won fourteen of their last sixteen games.

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It was a late night, early morning win for the
University of Michigan men's basketball team they were on the road.
It was a ten to thirty pm Eastern time tip
off in a Big Ten basketball game. Of course, this
was in Washington against the Huskies. Michigan did win eighty
two to seventy two. A Demarra led the way twenty
points mares Johnson, how about sixteen point sixteen boards. That's

(01:49:38):
a good night at the office. Michigan will wrap up
its road trips Saturday against Oregon. Of course, Michigan State.
They take on the Huskies on Saturday. The Pistons are
set to continue their home stand as they take on
the Phoenix Suns tonight. Right now, Detroit atop the Eastern
Conference with a sparkling record of twenty eight and ten

(01:49:58):
on this young season. The Wings return to the ice
Friday for a home game against the San Jose Sharks.
The big news in the NFL world yesterday the Giants
they're finalizing in agreement to make John Harbaugh their next
head coach. Contract members they're still being negotiated. John Harbass
spent eighteen years as the head coach of the Baltimore Ravens.

(01:50:19):
The Lions, they're still searching for their offensive coordinator and
according to the NFL media people out there. Detroit will
interview former Falcons offensive coordinator Zach Robinson for the job
on Thursday. Who is he Well, he was an offensive
coordinator with the Los Angeles Rams when Jared Goff was there,
so we do have a connection that is kind of

(01:50:40):
important when it comes to that. How about some golf?
I mean, look outside right now. My goodness, we need.

Speaker 3 (01:50:44):
Some golf and we can.

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
So you get to watch golf at night time. There's
nothing better than that. And the Golf Channel usually does
a very nice job on the production of this one.
I'm not sure the stars that will be there, but
we will find out together a.

Speaker 3 (01:50:57):
Pretty strong field for the Sony Open. They're not known
for their strong fields, but the PGA Tour is all
different now. So some good viewing and some good watching.
And by the way, we have a recount in uh
the average age of the first time home buyer cited
by Congressman Verrett as forty. Apparently he was looking at

(01:51:18):
a debunked study that got a lot of headlines. What
was the number, you said.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
I said, I hope it's around thirty two. I wish
it was younger, but I'll give it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:26):
Thirty three. Is the accurate number of first time home
buyers thanks to a keen listener in West Michigan who's.

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The actual number. So you nailed it right on the head.
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Speaker 18 (01:51:52):
In VC news Radio. I'm Mark Mayfield. A crew from
the International Space Station has safely splashed down in the
waters of the Pacific off the coast of California. The
four members of the SpaceX Crew eleven had their mission
cut short due to an undisclosed medical issue. A two
bill spending package to fund large parts of the federal
government is now passed through the House.

Speaker 12 (01:52:12):
Jim Roop reports.

Speaker 20 (01:52:13):
The legislation, which passed on a three forty one to
seventy one vote, combines funding for the State and Treasury departments,
as well as the Federal Trade Commission and the IRS.
Democrat demands for stricter rules for ice agents following the
fatal shooting in Minneapolis last week has forced republic Industry
removed the Department of Homeland Security from this funding bill.
The legislation now heads to the Senate.

Speaker 12 (01:52:35):
I'm Jim Roop and Prenceident.

Speaker 18 (01:52:36):
Trump is expected to meet with the Venezuelan opposition leader
Maria and Carino Machana at the White House today. She
won the twenty twenty five Nobel Peace Prize and pledged
to share it with Trump. Mark Mayfield, NBC News Radio.

Speaker 34 (01:52:48):
Expect mostly cloudy sky throughout the Northeast, with a few
flurries possible, especially across northern New England and the higher elevations.
Temperatures will hit the mid thirties.

Speaker 3 (01:52:57):
Like eve X.

Speaker 34 (01:52:57):
Snow continues in the snowbelt areas of the mid West
in the Great Lakes, with much of the regions staying
dry but cold. Temperatures will be in the twenties to
the low thirties. The northern plains will struggle to make
it into the low twenties, while the southern plains will
top out near forty degrees, with gusty winds making it
feel colder. The Southeast remains mostly sunny and warming into
the fifties to the low sixties. Warmer still toward Florida

(01:53:20):
and along the Gulf Coast. Sunshine dominates in the southwest
desert areas, with temperatures in the seventies to the low eighties.
Northern and central California, we'll see lingering showers with temperatures
topping out of the mid fifties, while Southern California sees
plenty of sunshine and highs hitting the low eighties. Rain
continues in the Pacific Northwest at the lower elevations with

(01:53:40):
mountain snow in the Cascades. Highs will be in the
upper thirties to the mid forties. That's your national forecast.
I'm Tammy Trihello.

Speaker 18 (01:54:02):
In VC news Radio. I'm Mark Mayfield. A crew from
the International Space Station has returned to Earth ahead of
schedule because of a sick astronaut. NASA says the US, Japanese,
Russian crew from the SpaceX Crew eleven mission has splashed
down safely off the coast of San Diego. It was
the first time in the twenty five year history of
the space station that a mission was cut short due

(01:54:22):
to a medical issue. NASA has not shared details about
the sick crew member due to medical privacy, but says
the astronaut is in stable condition. Minneapolis officials are asking
for peace after a man was hospitalized following a shooting
involving federal law enforcement in Minneapolis.

Speaker 19 (01:54:36):
And for anyone that is taking the bait tonight, stop
that is not helpful, go home. We cannot counter Donald
Trump's chaos with our own brand of chaos.

Speaker 18 (01:54:51):
Minneapolis Mayor and Jacob Price spoke late Wednesday night. The
Department of Homeland Security posted a statement on x claiming
an illegal Anglian from Venezuela was shot on the leg
after he attacked a federal officer. DHS said both the
officer and the illegal alien are in the hospital. Two
more people allegedly involved in the attack on the officer
are in custody. The US has made its first sale
of Venezuelan oil. Jim Roup has more.

Speaker 20 (01:55:14):
CBS News is reporting the deal is valued at five
hundred million dollars. The exact details of the sale remain unclear,
but a Trump administration official says more sales are expected
in the coming weeks. This comes after the capture of
former Venezuelan president Nicholas Madoro by the US. In the
aftermath of that military operation, the White House is set
it plans to sell Venezuelan oil and control the proceeds,

(01:55:37):
splitting the money between the US Government, US Companies and Venezuela.

Speaker 18 (01:55:41):
I'm Jim Roup and the New York Giants have their
next leader. According to ESPN, the g Men are working
to finalize an agreement mc John Harbar their next head coach.
Harbaugh spent eighteen years as the head coach of the
Baltimore Ravens. You're listening to the latest from NBC News Radio.

Speaker 16 (01:55:57):
Netflix is preparing a revised all cash offer for Warner
Brothers Discovery streaming and studio business. Netflix had already offered
a deal worth eighty three billion dollars in cash and
stock for the historic company. The new all cash offer
comes as Paramount Skuidance has attempted a hostile takeover of
Warner Brothers Discovery's entire business. Apple will use Google's Gemini

(01:56:20):
AI models to power its Apple Intelligent features, including an
updated version of Siri, Ira Spitzer with more.

Speaker 35 (01:56:27):
Apple had also recently tested models from Open Ai and Anthropic.
The deal is seen as a major win for Google
in its competition with those firms, as it gives them
access to Apple's base of more than two billion active
devices globally. Google's parent company, Alphabet also just became the
world's fourth four trillion dollar company on the strength of
its recent AI successes.

Speaker 16 (01:56:48):
Meta is reportedly laying off about one thousand people after
Mark Zuckerberg's big bet on the virtual word fizzled. The
Facebook parent company is not abandoning VR, but it's scaling
way back. Three of America's best known high end department
stores are now in jeopardy after sax Global filed for
bankruptcy this week. Andrew Whitman explains.

Speaker 24 (01:57:06):
It could be the beginning of the end for Sacks
Fifth Avenue, Nieman Marcus, and Bergdorf Goodman. The stores just
came together in a two point seven billion dollar merger
in twenty twenty four, but the company could not renegotiate
with its vendors. As department stores continued their decline in
the US, made worse by financial pressures on shoppers. The

(01:57:27):
stores will stay open, question is for how much longer.

Speaker 16 (01:57:30):
Automakers from around the world are showing off their latest
models this week at the Detroit Auto Show. The showcase
is at the Huntington Place Convention Center in Detroit. Now,
only those in the media and the auto industry are
allowed on the showroom floor. The show will be open
to the public starting Saturday and running through the twenty fifth.
It will feature over two dozen car brands showing off

(01:57:51):
their new vehicles, including the latest electric and self driving models.
I'm Monica Nelson with your consumer and business news.

Speaker 31 (01:57:57):
Let's start in the NFL and former Ravens head coach
John Harbaugh, according to ESPN, are working to finalize an
agreement to make him their next head coach. NBA, the
Clippers knocked off the Wizards one nineteen one to oh
five for their fourth straight win. Kawhi Leonard game high
thirty three. Head coach Tylo says Leonard was big.

Speaker 32 (01:58:20):
Making seven threes, you know, seven to eleven threes, but
you know, down a stretching that fourth quarters just taken
over the game. And then you know, we was able
to get some stop defensively on which help us out
a lot.

Speaker 31 (01:58:30):
The Clippers a perfect twenty seven for twenty seven from
the line. College hoops Texas crushed AH ranked Vandy eighty
sixty four, sending the Commodores to their first loss of
the season. On the ice, Sabers scored two in the
first two in the second skate pass the Flyers in Buffalo.
Sabers have won fourteen of their last sixteen games that

(01:58:55):
sports i'm Ron Tamoss.

Speaker 34 (01:58:57):
Expect mostly cloudy's guys throughout the Northeast, with a few
flurries possible, especially across northern New England and the higher elevations.
Temperatures will hit the mid thirties. Lake effect snow continues
in the snow belt areas of the Midwest and the
Great Lakes, with much of the regions staying dry but cold.
Temperatures will be in the twenties to the low thirties.
The northern plains will struggle to make it into the

(01:59:18):
low twenties, while the southern plains will top out near
forty degrees, with gusty winds making it feel colder. The
Southeast remains mostly sunny and warming into the fifties to
the low sixties. Warmer still toward Florida and along the
Gulf Coast. Sunshine dominates in the southwest desert areas, with
temperatures in the seventies to the low eighties. Northern and
central California we'll see lingering showers with temperatures topping out

(01:59:41):
of the mid fifties, while southern California sees plenty of
sunshine and highs hitting the low eighties. Rain continues in
the Pacific Northwest at the lower elevations, with mountain snow
in the Cascades. Highs will be in the upper thirties
to the mid forties. That's your national forecast. I'm Tammy Trihello.

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Now in the shadow of the Capitol Dome and Lansing.
He's heard from the beaches of Lake Michigan, to the
halls of power and behind closed doors. Here's Michigan's Michael
Patrick Shields.

Speaker 3 (02:00:53):
He has on a mckaylee Bonjarno. Come a star Michael
Patrick Shields with you radio stations across the state of
Michigan and worldwide at MI Big Show dot Com. Very
very pleased that you're with us, and bring a friend.
Next time. We have extra chairs and you can sit
in the back. You sit in the front. We're not
gonna call on you We're not gonna make fun of you.

(02:01:15):
It's not like a comedy club or anything like that,
and there won't be a test at the end of
the show. You can go back and hear it all
over again, and you can go back and study if
you like, atmi Bigshow dot Com, where all of the
interviews are podcasted and there's a streaming audio there available
to you. You can share them through social media. You

(02:01:36):
can send them over to somebody and say, can you
believe doctor Wycoff said this? What did he say? Well,
he told you the straight skinny. That's what he does
in his office at the Wycoff Wellness Center on Michigan Avenue,
which is just a little bit east of one twenty seven,
or at Wycoff Wellness dot com. You can go there
and be a patient. You can go there and shop.

(02:01:57):
He's got vitamins at discount prices, supplements and treatments and
all the things you might not hear about at your
average every day doctor. And he's with us now. He's
got radio experience, and he's got his podcast too. What
you can find wherever you find your podcast? What do
you call your podcast, Doctor Wycoff? And what is the
nature of them.

Speaker 42 (02:02:18):
Well, Michael, I have a whole library of from exciting
topics is called Pathway to Wellness with Doctor John Wycoff.
Anywhere you get your podcast, you can get it and
they're like twenty to thirty minute snippets about topics. And
I think people would really get engaged with detoxification, the
GLP weight loss, the spike protein detoxification, things like that,

(02:02:43):
things that mainstream medicine may. I'll be talking about things
that we do every week every day at the Wycoff
Wellness Center. And you're right, we really are focusing January
on weight loss and we are really the leader in
the GLP one weight loss Craveness or method. This is
a great method will lose weight safely. We do microdosing,

(02:03:05):
we do regular dosing. We can help you get your
goal safely with the right blood testing, monitoring and support.
So if you're really interested in the GLP one weight
loss program, come see us. We'll get you on that
path to wellness right away.

Speaker 3 (02:03:22):
It's very cold outside today, so we talk about things
from time to time, like you know, chipping ice and shoveling,
and also the old adage that going outside in the
cold will make you sick. Is that true or not true.

Speaker 42 (02:03:39):
I don't think going outside so much in the cold
makes you sick. I think what does happen is it
dries out your mucous membranes and your nose and your
throat and drock deal tubes, and they may be a
little bit more susceptible to bacteria getting through them. But
I do think the adage of going out and shoveling snow,

(02:04:00):
especially if you're an older person and you're not really
in good shape, you should talk to your doctor first.
That is a common area of extreme exertion, extreme stress
on the cardiovascular system, and the combination of the cold
weather and then lifting and bending and throwing snow with
the shovel that can be real problematic and lead to

(02:04:23):
a heart attack or an event. So I would encourage
your listeners to take appropriate caution and be assessed maybe
before you go after that big snowfall and try to
clear the driveway.

Speaker 3 (02:04:37):
When somebody comes in to see you for a pathway
to health, what is the kind of assessment that they
would do in their first consultation.

Speaker 42 (02:04:48):
We do a thorough history that's about a fourteen page
document before you come in, and we sit down and
go through that with all of your concerns one by one,
all your antecedents, what's led up to this, what has
happened in the past. Oftentimes the antecedents your past history

(02:05:08):
really gives me a clue as to what's going on now.
We do a physical head to tow assessment. We do
an initial assessment or your cit your health with a
test called a bio impedance analysis, very simple, and then
we try to come up with the key problems that
I see the barriers, and then we decide if you

(02:05:29):
need testing, blood testing, maybe biomedical testing, which we do
a lot of, whether it's nutrient evaluation, genetic evaluation, things
along this line to help give us an idea of
what path we should follow to get you to wellness.

Speaker 3 (02:05:48):
Sounds complicated, but I know you make it simple because
you're a fine communicator, not just on the radio and
on your podcast, but across the desk from someone who's
consulting with you. Simple question at this time of year,
but you mentioned it a minute ago. How important is
simple hydration in the health of people of any age

(02:06:09):
and what qualifies as hydration, like what should you drink
and how much.

Speaker 42 (02:06:16):
Well I think the simple answer is water is extremely
good for people. People high quality filtered water. And the
amount is really simple. Take your weight in pounds divided
in half, and that should be the number of ounces
of water per day. Two hundred found person, one hundred
ounces of water. That's a little over three quarts. Now

(02:06:39):
you can add some coffee or tea and you can
count those as part of that one hundred ounces. If
you want to have an electrolyte drink something like this,
this is fine. Really try to get people off of soda,
both the diet sona and the regular sodas, because I
really think they're not healthy for you. But I think

(02:07:02):
the big thing is is that we are an under hydrated,
dehydrated society. So just getting an extra couple of glasses
of water today and maybe getting some minerals, getting some
salt to the cassium, magnesium, and zinc. You can do
that by adding some salt to your drink, or you
can take one of our great multi vitamin mineral supplements

(02:07:26):
that we have at Wycoff Wellness or online at Wycoff
Wellness dot com and they're all on sale this month.
You can save twenty percent and if you contact your office.
We can get you up to a thirty percent discount
through our online store, So there are ways to really
save in January, plus say twenty percent off all of
our great treatment packages this month, as we ring in

(02:07:49):
a new and healthy new year.

Speaker 3 (02:07:52):
Salt comes on the rim of a margarita. I'm just saying,
you know, that's probably not.

Speaker 42 (02:07:58):
It's another way I think you can look at it.
The problem with the tequilage, it tends to be a
little dehydrating, but it certainly counts as fluids, There's no
doubt about it. So thank you, But uh, you know,
maybe maybe juinatonic or a vacca sona might be a
better choice.

Speaker 3 (02:08:19):
See, this is the kind of question you can candidly
ask doctor John Wycoff, and you know you'll he'll be
realistic with you. If you say, you know, some doctor
might say you have to quit drinking all together if
you want maximum performance. He might say, you know, well,
let's talk about the realistic life that you want to
live and where you want to be and how you

(02:08:39):
want to feel. It's not just saying you're healthy. Feeling
healthy is what doctor Wycoff does at the Wycoff Wellness
Center wy co f F. Find him online wycoff Wellness
dot com or on Michigan Avenue a little Bit East
of on twenty seven in Lansing and on his podcastft.

Speaker 5 (02:09:00):
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Speaker 44 (02:10:29):
Whether they're doughboys, comments, or even gremlins, every public school
in Michigan is probably be known for something, and the
Michigan Lottery is probably be known for something too.

Speaker 3 (02:10:39):
Education.

Speaker 45 (02:10:40):
One hundred percent of lottery profits go to support public schools.
With the help of players across our grade state, the
lottery provided over one billion dollars to the State School
Lake Fund for the.

Speaker 44 (02:10:50):
Seventh straight year.

Speaker 45 (02:10:51):
So whatever hometown school you're from, the Michigan Lottery is
rooting for all of them.

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Michigan Lottery for fun for schools. Knowing your limits is
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Speaker 9 (02:10:59):
Beta nominees out for this year's iHeart Podcast Awards. The
nominees for the twenty twenty six Podcast of the Year
include Good Hang with Amy Poehler, The Breakfast Club, The
Mel Robbins Podcast, Pablo Tory finds out the Daily The
rest is History this past weekend with Theovonne Call Her Daddy,

(02:11:20):
Have You Waiting?

Speaker 12 (02:11:21):
Giggly Squad.

Speaker 9 (02:11:22):
The winner of the top Award will be determined by
a fan vote that will take place through February twenty second.
The twenty twenty six iHeart Podcast Awards will take place
March sixteenth in Austin, Texas.

Speaker 10 (02:11:32):
I Guess We're Gone Sin.

Speaker 9 (02:11:35):
Dolly Parton won't be able to make her eightieth birthday
bash at the Grand Old Opry, but the show will
still go on.

Speaker 11 (02:11:42):
Recent health issues have forced Dolly Parton to postpone some
public appearances lately, including a residency in Las Vegas.

Speaker 12 (02:11:48):
This weekend's tribute will include Lamy Wilson, Vince Gill, Ronda Vincent,
and Moore. Dolly posted online it means a lot to
her that people are coming together to celebrate her birthday,
and she wishes she could be there in person. This
year's Opry Goes Dolly show is scheduled for Saturday, two
days before her eightieth birthday. I'm Rory O'Neill.

Speaker 9 (02:12:09):
Zoe Seldanya is now the highest grossing actor of all
time at the box office. Her role in the recently
released Avatar Fire and Ash has put the forty seven
year old's box office hall at more than fifteen point
four billion dollars. She takes the top spot from fellow
Marvel stars Scarlett Johansson.

Speaker 30 (02:12:25):
That's entertainment.

Speaker 9 (02:12:26):
I'm Jennifer Pulsni.

Speaker 3 (02:12:49):
David Hall, the founder of Hall Financial, is about to
well be a couple hours yet, but I'm sure he's
ready for his tea time at the Sony Open in
Hawaii right now, starting the PGA Tour season. And what
I can't figure out is how he got into the
field and into Hawaii in time for the first tea.
When he was at Tiger Woods's fiftieth birthday party this

(02:13:11):
week at the Breakers. You heard me, Tiger Woods has
turned fifty and the guests at the party were told
to wear red because Tiger always wore red on a Sunday,
and oh, the performer was going to be none other
than John bon Jovi. Vanessa and Kai Trump were there,
and the menu at the Breakers Hotel there was based

(02:13:34):
on the champion sinners that Tiger served at Augusta National
at the Masters tournament. It must have been some soire.
David Hall.

Speaker 47 (02:13:45):
I'll tell you what. I did not make the invite list,
rumor had it that I did, And I wish I
was in Hawaii with this snowy day that we're having here.
But I'll tell you it's nice to have the PGA
Tour back. Can get it up on the television to
watch some golf, And hard to believe Tiger Wood's fifty

(02:14:06):
years old. Doesn't seem that long ago that he was
taking the golf world by storm, And it's boy, time flies,
doesn't that?

Speaker 3 (02:14:15):
It sure does. And we can dream about being at
that party, and we can dream about being in Hawaii.
And we've been on the phone this morning with Member
of Congress Tom Barrett, who talked to us about the
dream of being a home buyer, and that the average
age of the first time home buyer is now thirty three.
Some reports had it up at forty, but apparently thirty

(02:14:37):
three is the more accurate number. That's a lot different
than I remember growing up and the sort of timeline
of what your life was going to be. And the
other thing that seems to have changed, according to news
reports is what is the definition of a starter home.

Speaker 47 (02:14:53):
Well, there's a number of things there that I think
that we need to unpack. So the first thing is
that you know the world what has changed a lot
over the last twenty years, and for a lot of
young people, buying a house at an early age is
and as important or as much of a focus as
it was, uh maybe for you or I, And I

(02:15:14):
think that while some people certainly make the decision to
jump into home ownership earlier than others, I think that
we all know when we look at the information, what
a good decision it is wealth wise to purchase the
home at a young age, because you see this growth,
and you know, we could get all into the way
that it works. But with the little money that you

(02:15:35):
have to put down to purchase the home and the
amount that you can mortgage, the returns on the money
that you actually put down are so enormous. And sometimes
people miss that part of it because they look at
the overall asset instead of the money they put down.
And we could save that for another show. But I
think that it's important to note that while these this

(02:15:57):
average age has been bantered about between thirty and as
rates have started to come down, and as affordability is
getting better, not worse, I think we're going to see
those numbers improve in twenty twenty six, and I think
you're going to see more younger people getting in the
game to purchase homes because of the fact that it's
going to be more affordable, and I think that interest

(02:16:19):
rates coming down are a big, big part of that.
So it's going to be an exciting year and we're
going to see more home ownership for younger people than
we did last year, and that's good news.

Speaker 3 (02:16:29):
Somebody calls you at eight sixty six, call Hall, or
they go online to call hall first dot com, and
maybe the first question they ask is what is the
interest rate now?

Speaker 47 (02:16:39):
Yeah, and I think that the first question that they
ask should be what's my credit score because that determines
the interest rate. But in general terms, we are locking
in the majority of our clients right now below six
percent the high fives. So interest rates are lower than
what people think. And it's always nice when people call
in and they're like, oh, really, I didn't realize that

(02:17:02):
they were that low, because there's certainly been a lot
of times in my career where the consumer thinks that
rates are lower than they are. Right now, that's the case,
and it's really really nice that we have the opportunity
to get people in at five point seven, five point eight,
five point nine, that's where the majority of our loans
are being locked today.

Speaker 3 (02:17:21):
Well, you have to be careful online, you know what.
Somebody goes poking around and it can be dangerous because
the misinformation that's out there can lead them to believe
that it's seven percent, for instance, on an interest rate.
But if they call you, you don't mind answering the questions,
and in fact, you're quite famous for your free five
minute mortgage review.

Speaker 47 (02:17:41):
That's right, they call us up, we give them a
five minute mortgage review and it's really simple. But credit
score is key. We are focusing on credit this year.
Seven sixty and above is where you want to live
on your credit, and that's how you're going to get
the very best deal on your mortgage. That's not just
with us, that's industry ride and so we are really

(02:18:01):
proponents of helping folks improve their credit, maybe even before
they buy the home so they can get the very
best interest rates. So that's just another service that we
provided all financial I.

Speaker 3 (02:18:13):
Remember when the rates were at seven and you said
to people, you know, if you find the home you want,
get it because you know, life is short and the
rates will come down, and when that happens, you can refinance.
You offer that now too. Is that a complicated process?

Speaker 47 (02:18:29):
No, it's not, And in fact, I'm glad you brought
that up because most of the folks that bought one
year ago today are now refinancing to a percentage point
lower than they bought the home. They don't have to
go out and find the home today. They've already got
the home. Now they're locking in the same low interest
rate that the folks are now purchasing at. So it's

(02:18:49):
a great strategy if you find the home and it
makes sense. It takes about nine business days to refinance
the loan, so you're already in the home. You bought
it in January. We're twenty twenty five. Now you're refinancing
in January twenty twenty six. Non average dating about one
hundred and fifty dollars a month from where you purchased
a year ago. So the refinancing technique after you purchased

(02:19:13):
the home is very popular and you have to do it.
If you bought a home a year.

Speaker 3 (02:19:17):
Ago and you have the option right of taking some
of your equity out when you do that.

Speaker 47 (02:19:22):
Yeah, if you've got some equity, you can do that.
You also can roll in a payment so you get
some payment release. And if there's any issues with any
of your s growth in terms of taxes and insurance,
we can clean that up as well. So a lot
of times it's a financial cleanup when your REFINANCI your mortgage,
if you have some other things going on, we'll also
take a look at your other debts to see if
we can help you with that as well.

Speaker 3 (02:19:43):
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not kidding, and neither are the ten thousand five star
reviews you can read on that website too. Thank you, David.
David Hall, a business leader in Michigan.

Speaker 18 (02:20:01):
Meta reportedly laying off about one thousand people after Mark
Zuckerberg's big bet on the virtual world fizzled. The Facebook
parent company not abandoning VR, but is scaling way back.
Consumer advocate Lindsay Owens believes that Google is trying to
upsell users with ads that feature higher priced items. She
says the company's AI shopping agents can utilize the user's
search history to promote more expensive stuff. Google disagrees and

(02:20:24):
tells tech Crunch that consumers won't be shown a price
that's higher than what someone would find on a site.
San Francisco Stortup says they figured out a way to
make ammonia with less energy. Omopia says they can make
the chemical with less heat and pressure than traditional methods.
Ammonia is key to making fertilizer for farmers around the world,
but the chemicals production accounts for about two percent of
global greenhouse gases, and the company behind the Neo robot

(02:20:46):
is releasing a new AI model that promises to learn
new information when X says the World model will help
the humanoid robots learn new topics without being prompted, and
plans to ship the robots to home sometime this year.
TECH report on Mark.

Speaker 2 (02:20:57):
Mayfield, Michigan's Big Show starring Michael Patrick shields.

Speaker 3 (02:21:03):
Mike Cox, candidate for governor the Republican business leaders from Michigan.
They authored a report that urges whoever the next governor
is to focus on education, the workforce, and business fundamentals.
Are you jake with those priorities?

Speaker 8 (02:21:18):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 17 (02:21:18):
Look when you get education right, your economy turns around
because that becomes a job creator a job attractor.

Speaker 3 (02:21:27):
Politics is our family business in medias dot virtus, the
truth is in the middle. Tony Cuthbert is tonight the
night that Ford Motor Company and Formula one and Red
Bull are going to make their big announcement at the
train station downtown Detroit.

Speaker 2 (02:21:41):
Oh my goodness, it is.

Speaker 3 (02:21:42):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:21:42):
This is kind of a nerdy thing for F one
fans out there because basically it's just the unveiling of
the new car. And these F one car starting next
season are different. You can look it up if you
want to, but basically they're smaller and the wheels are
different a little bit, and they're doing away with some
of the technology that they used to use. But I
believe it's at ten o'clock Eastern time at the train

(02:22:03):
station tonight because of course the Europeans love to watch
these unveiling, so they want to make it accommodating to
all of them since F one is mainly, of course
a European sport. But Red Bull will be there, and
I'm curious to see if Max for staff and will
make his first ever appearance in the state of Michigan.

Speaker 24 (02:22:19):
Why not.

Speaker 3 (02:22:21):
Well, if we're talking cars, this week, it might be
race cars, and it might be the complete opposite of
a race car, which is a minivan. There's a review
in the Detroit News by a writer called Pain. He says,
the Chrysler pacifica minivan, is super cool, no kidding, Well, okay,

(02:22:42):
if you say so. And it needs to be the
station wagon, remember back in the day, and now of
course it's the minivan. And I remember when cup holders
were the thing, and when you came to the Detroit
Auto Show, they'd say, this minivan has thirty two cup
holders in it. And I don't think I'm exaggerating at
thirty two anyway. So there's that, and the Stilantis CEO

(02:23:05):
is saying that affordability is key and they're exploring sub
thirty thousand dollars offerings a car for less than thirty
thousand dollars. How much do you expect to spend these
days when you go out to buy, or more specifically,
finance a car, And how many years can you finance
them for?

Speaker 8 (02:23:24):
Now?

Speaker 3 (02:23:24):
I think they're all the way out to about seven
or nine years. Sometimes we're going all the way out
to outer space. Next with doctor Christian Greer, the president
and CEO, of the Michigan Science Center. He's our own
Neil de grasse Tyson. Stay right there, it's Michael Patrick Shields.

Speaker 18 (02:24:02):
INBC News Radio. I'm Mark Mayfield. A crew from the
International Space Station has returned to Earth ahead of schedule
because of a sick astronaut. NASA says the US, Japanese
Russian crew from the SpaceX Crew eleven mission has splashed
down safely off the coast of San Diego. It was
the first time in the twenty five year history of
the space station that a mission was cut short due

(02:24:23):
to a medical issue. NASA has not shared details about
the sick crew member due to medical privacy, but says
the astronaut is in stable condition. Minneapolis officials are asking
for peace after our man was hospitalized following a shooting
involving federal law enforcement in Minneapolis.

Speaker 19 (02:24:37):
And for anyone that is taking the bait tonight, stop
that is not helpful, go home. We cannot counter Donald
Trump's chaos with our own brand of chaos.

Speaker 18 (02:24:52):
Minneapolis mayor and Jacob Price spoke late Wednesday night. The
Department of Homeland Security posted a statement on X claiming
an illegal Anglian from vent Cezuela were shot on the
leg after he attacked a federal officer. DHS said both
the officer and the illegal alien are in the hospital.
Two more people allegedly involved in the attack on the
officer are in custody. The US has made its first
sale of Venezuelan oil. Jim Roup has more.

Speaker 20 (02:25:15):
CBS News is reporting the deal is valued at five
hundred million dollars. The exact details of the sale remain unclear,
but a Trump administration official says more sales are expected
in the coming weeks. This comes after the capture of
former Venezuelan president Nicholas Madoro by the US. In the
aftermath of that military operation, the White House is set
it plans to sell Venezuelan oil and control the proceeds,

(02:25:38):
splitting the money between the US government, US companies, and Venezuela.

Speaker 18 (02:25:43):
I'm Jim Roop and the New York Giants have their
next leader. According to ESPN, the g Men are working
to finalize an agreement make John Harbaugh their next head coach.
Harbaugh spent eighteen years as the head coach of the
Baltimore Ravens. You're listening to the latest from NBC News Radio.

Speaker 14 (02:25:58):
President Trump is bringing whole milk back to school Cafeterius. Wednesday,
at the White House, the President signed a bipartisan bill
reversing Obama error restrictions.

Speaker 15 (02:26:10):
With this legislation, schools will finally be able to expand
their offerings to include nutritious whole milk.

Speaker 14 (02:26:17):
The Obama rules restricted students to fat free or low
fat milk. Half of Americans are spending less time looking
at screens, and that seems to be making them happier.
Monica Nelson reports.

Speaker 16 (02:26:32):
A new survey from Talker Research finds that gen z
is actually leading the charge when it comes to unplugging,
with more than sixty percent intentionally putting down the smartphones.
Those numbers start going down. The older people are people
who report spending too much time online feel less connected
and more anxious, while those who intentionally take time to
log off report feeling more productive and present. I'm Monica

(02:26:54):
Nelson Health Update.

Speaker 14 (02:26:56):
I'm Sarah Lee Kessler.

Speaker 3 (02:27:13):
I know this segment is going to go by at
warp speed or light speed, because I could go on
forever and ever with doctor Christian Greer, the President and
CEO of the Michigan Science Center. And if you're going
to Detroit. Visit Detroit dot Com, Visit the Science Center,
and spend as much time there as you want. Thank
you for being here, Welcome back to the radio stage.

Speaker 48 (02:27:36):
It's good to be here.

Speaker 3 (02:27:38):
What do you think really went on up in the
International Space Station that they had to have an emergency
evacuation and splash down in the Pacific.

Speaker 48 (02:27:47):
Well, each time you go up into space, you want
to make sure that from your flight versions that everyone
is healthy and everyone is able to be able to
perform their duties as best they can. And part of
the reason is is that you're in a different environment.
We bring all of our environment from Earth up into space,

(02:28:08):
and it can make a really challenging situation when you
have a sick astronaut. And this has happened at the
beginning of the Space Race, where you had astronauts that
weren't able to fly on Apollo missions because they were
sick or they had no immunity to certain diseases. So

(02:28:29):
in this case with the I, you have a very
interesting situation as you haven't had before, where you have
an astronaut that needs to come back and part because
of their illness, and so this is a real challenging situation.
So that's pretty much what it was.

Speaker 3 (02:28:50):
There is no social distancing up there on that space station,
is there.

Speaker 48 (02:28:53):
No, not at all, not at all. Now you have
a very good you know, air purifiers there, and certain
kinds of things that are in there are always being filtered,
but it's not always enough.

Speaker 3 (02:29:04):
Yeah, I don't know. It takes a certain kind of
person willing to be up there in a can like
that for nine, ten months or longer, doesn't.

Speaker 48 (02:29:11):
It Psychological They Yeah, they do psychological evaluations and that
sort of thing, and I'm sure they have certain exercises
and things that they do to keep mentally focused because
it's not only just your mental health but also your
physical health being in waitlessness. That's a challenge as well.
But that's kind of where.

Speaker 3 (02:29:31):
It is and why they all had to come off
the space station, not just the sick astronaut.

Speaker 48 (02:29:39):
Well, when the astronauts fly up into space, they have
a variety of tasks and it's not as though there's
like a one person vehicle that can come down, so
a crew really needs to stay with the crew otherwise
they have to bring another ship up to take them
down as well. So that makes it a little bit challenging. Yeah,

(02:29:59):
as you remember the vehicle went out, the Boeing star
Liner vehicle that went up and had a problem coming back,
And that was a real challenge too, because although they
could have brought the astronauts back at that point, they
really needed to make sure that the spacecraft was safe.
So they were up there for I don't know, I

(02:30:20):
think it was six or seven months, so they were
up there before they were able to bring back there.

Speaker 3 (02:30:24):
Last year, I lost track of how in a normal
like exit from the International Space Station that is not
an evacuation, how do the astronauts come.

Speaker 48 (02:30:35):
Down, Well, they come down the same way. They are
different capsules that go up like progress that take waste
away and that bring up supplies, and so those capsules
are not always fit to be able to come down
and take astronauts back, but they could be configured in

(02:30:55):
that way to do that.

Speaker 3 (02:30:56):
Perhaps, what do you think that ride down is like?

Speaker 48 (02:31:01):
Well, I think there are probably for astronauts that I've
done it before, it's probably pretty easy. But you're going
from seventeen five hundred miles per hour to zero, which
are landing of a splash down or coming down as
some capsules may come down in a desert or on land,
but in this case it's just the deceleration, so it's

(02:31:25):
the opposite of what you experience going up. So they
try to configure the capsule in such a way that
they don't feel it as like negative ges, but have
the ability to feel that this deceleration in a way
that works for them going in the opposite direction. So
it's kind of like the capsule comes down backwards once.

Speaker 3 (02:31:45):
They burn through the atmosphere. I don't know if that's
the right way to say it, but there is that.
I mean, the friction right of getting back into the
Earth's atmosphere. Would they feel the sensation of falling?

Speaker 48 (02:32:01):
Well, you know, I guess when you think about it
being up in orbit, you're essentially falling around the Earth,
so that is called weightlessness, but you're also in a
state of free fall. So that's sort of a general
top way to describe it. And so it is a
really interesting thing when they land because they have to,

(02:32:25):
you know, go from going really fast and not feeling
any motion at all to a little turbulence coming through
the atmosphere as the thrusters adjust the trajectory to make
sure they don't bounce off or go in too fast
and burn up. So there's kind of like a glide
slope that they want to be on so that the
ship is in the right configuration to be able to
do that, and so when it ends up coming down

(02:32:47):
to splashdown, they feel some force. They are under the
pair of shoes, usually three pair of shoes, and that
is for safety in case it can probably land with two,
but that is a way to set it down, and
so I don't think that they see anything much. They
go through also other kinds of flight training in which
they do weightlessness training in a commercial aircraft that's been

(02:33:12):
adapted to allow them to be called the vomit comet
I guess, I guess would be the coloquial term, and
so that gives them a chance to feel weightlessness. So
it's not anything that they would probably have a problem with.

Speaker 3 (02:33:25):
Aren't you glad we don't have to do that.

Speaker 48 (02:33:28):
I would actually love to do it myself.

Speaker 3 (02:33:30):
I would.

Speaker 48 (02:33:31):
It'd be great to go up in this space. Yeah,
And I think a lot of people, a lot of
your listeners probably would love to have the thrill of
being able to travel above the Earth and to see
it from that vantage. Point, you know, just the peace
and tranquility that you see over the planet, the landforms,
the water, the sky, the clouds, and then to be
able to turn the other way and to look out

(02:33:52):
in the space that the stars and the moon. So
it's a wonderful experience, I'm sure for the astronauts and
many people would love to do it, as long as
not acrophobic or stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (02:34:02):
You're very very brave for people who come to the
Science Center at this time of year. There are a
lot of people who are in town for the Auto
Show and so forth, and that's a whole different matter
of science and technology taking place right there. But what
will they find. What's the sort of the main show
right now at the Science Center.

Speaker 48 (02:34:24):
Well, the big thing is that the Science Center is
our planetarium. As many of you know that we reopened
our planetarium and renovated it and Stilantis gave us a
generous grant to design a new show called Hyperspace, a
Stellar Odyssey, and each one of those, each one of

(02:34:44):
those features has things that take us out into deep space.
We also have stage shows, but currently right now we're
shut down and we are have a pop up at
the Detroit Auto Show. So we have lots of cool
activities that are going on there in Detroit at the
at the Auto Show. And one of the things that

(02:35:05):
we have is an inflatable planetarium are portable planetarium that
we take out all over the state to look at
lots of different things. And we also have a neural
track in which you can use your mind and your
brain ways to actually race a car on the track.
So that's probably one of the coolest things that we
have popped up at the Auto Show.

Speaker 3 (02:35:24):
Thank you for tolerating my stupid questions. I have many
more to come up, so if you don't mind, we
will recall you again soon because it's just absolutely fascinating
and your knowledge gives us a perspective we wouldn't have.
And you can go there and touch and feel and
see it for yourself, doctor Christian Greer, the president of

(02:35:44):
the Michigan Science Center and the CEO there at Detroit,
and visit Detroit dot com and maybe you'll end up
visiting space. Ember wondered why health insurance costs seem to
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