Ep. 3436: Friday starring Michael Patrick Shiels

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm producer and creative director Tony Cuthberts.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Now in the shadow of the Capitol Dome and Lansing.
He's heard from the beaches of Lake Michigan, to the
halls of power and behind closed doors. Here's Michigan's Michael
Patrick Shields.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
I think it's time, you know, a little less talk,
a lot more action.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Because I think you're a sexist, misogynist dinosaur, a relic
of the Cold War who's boys charms they wasted on me.

Speaker 5 (00:39):
Michael Patrick Shields is on the air.

Speaker 6 (00:42):
Good Morning World.

Speaker 7 (00:44):
My name's Bond, James Bond, Michael Patrick Shields with you. Yeah,
it's gonna be a long time, a long time till
we get that next Double seven movie. So we have
to try not to think too much about it because
you get to, you know, get too frustrated with.

Speaker 6 (01:01):
The pace of it all.

Speaker 7 (01:03):
But at least it's underway, and at least it's happening,
and there's a director and a writer and a producer.
There's no double seven chosen yet. And wouldn't it be
cool if they could keep it a secret like and
shoot the whole thing and then you see him for
the first time when you buy your ticket and you
go to the movies, and it's impossible.

Speaker 6 (01:20):
It won't roll out that way.

Speaker 7 (01:22):
Nevertheless, Welcome to a fire Keeper's Casino Friday, from the
end of the road at the top of the world,
with a tale well calculated to keep you in suspense.
I hope they bring back the vodka Martini shaken not stirred,
and M and Q with the gadgets and all of it.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
Of course, when Ian Fleming wrote the books, the.

Speaker 7 (01:45):
Vodka martini was to be stirred, not shaken, because if
you shake it, you bruise the vodka. But for whatever reason,
when they made the movies, I guess they thought it
sounded better to say shaken, not stirred. But in the
real Martini world wouldn't do that. I wonder if they
might clean that up now. It seems like a good

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time to clean it all up. If there are things
like that, you want to be more faithful to the
writer Ian Fleming and the books you know, he didn't
write that many books.

Speaker 6 (02:16):
There are far more.

Speaker 7 (02:16):
Movies than there were books, so they have to make
up the stories on their own now. But they do
that sort of in homage to Ian Fleming, who actually
was in MI.

Speaker 6 (02:25):
I six and wrote most of the books at a
place called.

Speaker 7 (02:28):
GoldenEye, his house in Jamaica. Interesting week, in fact, I
went to a Double O seven concert this week that
was put on. There were about six musicians and two vocalists,
and they played songs from the James Bond movies.

Speaker 6 (02:43):
It was really cool, and of course.

Speaker 7 (02:44):
I had a Martini while I sat there and watched,
and brought an Italian actress with me for good measure.
And the place is called Vibrato, and it is owned
by the daughter of Herb Albert, and I guess he
owns it too, because they call it Herb albert S Vibrado,
but his daughter runs the place. And so you remember
her Alpert, who played those famous instrumentals that we all

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listened to growing up.

Speaker 6 (03:09):
Yeah, that was a good night. So there you have it.

Speaker 7 (03:11):
And I belonged to a Double oh seven society and
once a month.

Speaker 6 (03:16):
They have a gathering.

Speaker 7 (03:17):
It might be a screening or it might be a talk,
or it might be a meet up somewhere at an
interesting location. And I just said, we shouldn't talk too
much about Double oh seven because we get too excited.

Speaker 6 (03:28):
But that's okay. And it was a year ago.

Speaker 7 (03:31):
You may recall that I ran into Ray Fines at
Polo Lounge. Now, rath Fines has played M in the
Double oh seven movies, and this will give you an
idea how long the pacing of all this is going
to take, because on that weekend that I met him,
it was the breaking news that Amazon had bought the

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rights to Double O seven from Barbara Broccoli. Kubby Broccoli
was her father and he owned them originally. And so
that was a year ago that the rights were sold.
And we still don't have any MO filming or anything yet.
But when I ran into ray Fines at the table
behind me at Polo Lounge, I just sort of turned
and our eyes met and I said, M.

Speaker 6 (04:18):
Jeff Bezos may be calling you soon. Bezos.

Speaker 7 (04:23):
I said, yes, he's bought the rights to Double O seven.
James Bond may need you M. And he looked at
me and he said, I won't call him. He's gonna
screw it all up and he's just joking around. But
he did sort of for the moment play the role
of m right with me, So now I can say
that I've had a scene with Ray fines right sort of. Anyway,

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he was good fun in that regard. I don't think
he'll be back as em and I don't think really
any of the actors or actresses and that Daniel Craigarra
will be back. But that seems evident because they're going
in a new direction.

Speaker 8 (04:57):
All right.

Speaker 7 (04:57):
That's probably more than you wanted to know about Double
O seven this morning. If you were in Detroit yesterday,
another international intriguing event took place, and that is Ford
Racing had an announcement with Formula one, the flying machines
that go around the world to.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
Places like Abu Dhabi and.

Speaker 7 (05:15):
M Italy of course, and Las Vegas and Miami and
world destinations. I think they have one in the Far
East as well. Anyway, Detroit is partnering Cadillac is going
to have a team this year in Formula one, and
Ford is partnering with Red Bull and their effort and
actor Dax Shephard and ESPN reporter Nicole Briscoe were there

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at the old train station in Detroit to make these
announcements and was rolled out and Bill Ford, the chairman
of the Ford Motor Company, said this, Well.

Speaker 9 (05:51):
Hi everybody, and good evening, and I'm so proud to
welcome you to Detroit, the home of Ford Racing. So
we're here at Disigan Central Station and this building was
once the symbol of the decay of Detroit and now
it's really a symbol of its resurgence. I'm so happy
with how it turned out.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
And there's no better.

Speaker 9 (06:12):
Backdrop for kicking off our return to f one with
Red Bull.

Speaker 7 (06:21):
Yeah, we'll play that audio for Ken Hayward, who will
join us later and maybe a little bit more too
along the way. Ken Hayward is now with visit Detroit
and we can talk about the auto show and what's
going on downtown and so forth and so on.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
Who else you say this morning?

Speaker 7 (06:36):
Heather's Act the psychologist will be here and Steve Cara,
I've been waiting to talk to him, state representative from
Three Rivers, a Republican. He has been after Governor Whitmer
like nobody's business on social media, and he's been doing
it in a very creative way. He's got a sense
of humor, and it's a biting sense of humor. And

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Steve Carra will join us in well sort of tell us,
you know what about the bee in your saddle, be
in your bonnet, bur in your saddle, however you want
to say it. Robert Sherman will be here. He is
a rookie war correspondent from News Nation. What's it like
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you're witnessing the ruthless slaughter of anti government protesters and
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And here's why.

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Residents are being held hostage in their homes by machine
gun wielding security forces that have flooded the streets. Thousands
are dead and tanks are out, and they've imposed a
martial law in which you're not even allowed to leave
your house. Hideous activities in Iran. Also, doctor Ramish Separd

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will be here an Iran expert, policy expert. And if
there is to be changed in Iran, could the next
leader of Iran have a connection to the University of Michigan.

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Stay tuned for that.

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Harry Styles is coming out with new music Zoom. The
Grammy Award winning singer announcing the long awaited new album
Kiss All the Time Just Go occasionally on his social media.
This will be Style's first album since twenty twenty two.
He recently sent a text to fans who signed up
for messages from a phone number on his We Belong
Together website that featured him singing we Belong Together. The
project will drop March sixth. Actor Timothy Busfield has been

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dropped by his talent agency after his arrest on child
sex abuse charges. Deadline Reporting Innovative Artists cut ties with Busfield,
The actor accused of sexually abusing two boys who acted
on the show he directed and produced at the time,
The Cleaning Lady. Busfield also facing new accusations that he
sexually abused a sixteen year old girl during an audition
in California. He did not enter a plea during his

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first court appearance in New Mexico. A third Phineas and
ferb movie is greenlit for production on Disney Plus later
this year. Oh Honest, twenty eight years later, Bone Temple
is fighting to lead the domestic box office this weekend,
the fourth installment in Sony's dystopian franchise, aiming for twenty

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to twenty two million dollars in its four day debut.
Its biggest competition comes from Avatar, Fire and Ash, the
sequel to the Way of the Water.

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It's looking to.

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Speaker 6 (12:38):
Here's a little herb. Albert for you in your head
all day to day.

Speaker 7 (12:44):
Now, Eeden Albert runs Vibrato and you know who performs
there about once a month is Seth MacFarlane. Yeah, the

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guy from the Simpsons, some of those sassy productions. He's
as you've heard scene. He's a performer too, and he
plays the standards and you can get an orchestra in there,
like I did the other night at Double O seven show,
Thank you, mister Albert. And Eden Albert who runs the place.
She's an iron fist and a velvet glove family guy.

Speaker 6 (13:29):
That's Seth MacFarlane's show.

Speaker 7 (13:32):
That's a cartoon also, but he gets up there and
he does a very sort of glamorous performance. Nevertheless, you're
listening to Michael Patrick Shields. I'll tell you who gave
a pretty good performance yesterday. And it happened in the
White House press room. Well, both of the performers, I
guess you want to call him that. They're supposed to
be a reporter and a spokesperson.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
But they play their roles.

Speaker 7 (13:54):
And this fella who sounds like he's Irish, decided to
ask about the situation with the ice officers and how
things are going, and Caroline Levitt, the spokesperson for Donald Trump,
on having it.

Speaker 6 (14:09):
Here's what it sounded like, Nane Darline.

Speaker 15 (14:11):
Earlier, you were just defending ICE agents generally under your
own secretary Noon spoke to the media and she said,
among other things, that they are doing everything correctly. Thirty
two people died in Nice custody last year, one hundred
and seventy US citizens were detained by ICE, and Renee
Good was shot in the head and killed by an

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ICE agent. How does that equate to them doing everything correctly?

Speaker 16 (14:36):
Why was Renee Good unfortunately and tragically killed.

Speaker 15 (14:40):
Are you asking me my opinion because an ICE agent
acted recklessly and killed them justified?

Speaker 16 (14:45):
Oh okay, so you're a biased reporter with a left
wing opinion.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
What do you want me to do it?

Speaker 16 (14:49):
Yeah, because you're a left wing hack. You're not a reporter.
You're posing in this room as a journalist. And it's
so clear by the premise of your question, and you
and the people in the media who have such biases
but fake like you're a journalist. You shouldn't even be
sitting in that seat. But you're pretending that you're a journalist.
But you're a left wing activist. And the question that
you just raised, and your answer proves your bias. You

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should be reporting on the facts. You should re reporting
on the cases. Do you have the numbers of how
many American citizens were killed at the hands of illegal
aliens who ICE is trying to remove from this country?

Speaker 17 (15:20):
I bet you don't.

Speaker 16 (15:21):
I bet you didn't even read up on those stories.
I bet you never even read about Lake and Riley
or Jocelyn Nungray. Are all of the innocent Americans who
were killed at the hands of illegal aliens in this
country and the brave men and women of ICE are
doing everything in their power to remove those heinous individuals
and make our community safer. And shame on people like
you and the media who have a crooked view and

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have a bias view and pretend like you're a real
honest journalist.

Speaker 7 (15:49):
Okay, I think they're both a little bit out of line.
That's nile sanaj Tony Cuthbert tells me from the hill
he's from Belfast. That's why his voice in between sounding
Scottish and Irish because he's from Northern Ireland. Anyway, maybe
he was trying to prove a point with his question,

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like a push pull, and maybe she got a little
defensive with her answer. She didn't really answer his questions.
She just attacked him, which seems to be the trumpiant
way to go about things.

Speaker 6 (16:23):
Maybe she's right, maybe he's right, Maybe they're both wrong.

Speaker 7 (16:28):
Maybe the other phrase that might help there is maybe right.

Speaker 6 (16:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (16:35):
Tough times there in the old press room. US Senator
Lissa Slotkin from Michigan is under investigation now by the
Department of Justice for organizing and appearing in that video
where the Democrats told the military to refuse to follow
quote illegal orders end quote. It comes down to you
know who decides whether the orders are illegal?

Speaker 6 (16:56):
And wait a minute.

Speaker 7 (16:56):
In the military, aren't you supposed to follow the orders.
She's a former CIA analyst and she posted at ninety
second video in November, and Jean nine Piro used to
be on TV.

Speaker 6 (17:09):
She's a US attorney.

Speaker 7 (17:11):
She said the video is seditious, and then Donald Trump
made a comment on True Social that sedition is punishable
by death, and then it all got carried away. But
now Alyssa Slotkin is under investigation.

Speaker 6 (17:25):
Do you know that what that will do?

Speaker 7 (17:28):
I'm sure she's smiling from ear to ear because that
puts her front and center in the news and front
and center. If she wants to be president, she will
make hay with it. I'm sure as they both are.
US Supreme Court will not hear the appeal from Barry

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Croft Junior of his conviction in the role of the
Governor Whitmer kidnapping plot. President Trump said he would look
at issuing a pardon for Croft and Adam Fox. But
if he does, Whitmer says, Trump will be breaking a
promise that he wasn't going to do that, so they're
all in the news. Renewing a concealed pistol license in

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Michigan now costs one hundred and fifteen dollars. The state
House wants to reduce that and cut the fee to
thirty dollars. Let's make it cheaper and easier to get guns.
That sounds like a good idea. Of course, they're citing
the Constitution, not the pocketbooks. Politics is our family business,
and medias DoD vertus. The truth is in the middle.

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Michigan's House Speaker Matt Hall from Richland says his chamber
is going to take risks and do bold things this year,
despite the fact that it's an election year. Well, they're
going to do things because it's an election year might
be a better way to put it, but that's true.
Often in an election year, you can't get anything done
in the legislature unless you're trying to force people to
vote a certain way so it can use it against

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him in the campaign. I'm just a dummy, and I
know that Joe Tait, the former Speaker, ran things carefully
according to the current Speaker, and then the Dumbocrats lost
their majority. So Matt Hall saying, hey, let's get aggressive,
make some changes make life better for people. Medical affordability
is one of his priorities, and Tim Golding from Americans

(19:13):
for Prosperity was with the Speaker yesterday. Marquise Hastings is
one of twenty defendants named in a federal indictment in
college basketball point Shaving. He's a Grand Rapids area native,
graduated from Godwin High School in Wyoming and played for
Butler down there in Indiana and Western Michigan University and
Robert Morris University, and ironically of Robert Morris is where

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the point is shaving scheme took place. MPs Welcome to
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Speaker 18 (19:51):
President Trump is bringing whole milk back to school cafeterias.

Speaker 19 (19:55):
The President signed to buy a partisan bill that reversed
Obama era restrictions to allow school to offer whole and
two percent milk.

Speaker 20 (20:02):
With his legislation, schools will finally be able to expand
their offerings to include nutritious whole milk.

Speaker 19 (20:08):
The Obama rules restricted students to fat free or low
fat milk. I'm Tammy Trujillo.

Speaker 18 (20:13):
California authorities are reporting the state's largest ever outbreak of
mushroom poisoning. The California Department of Public Heal says thirty
five people have been poisoned by this so called death
Cap mushroom since last November, and that the average number
of mushroom poisonings per year is only five. In a
news conference on Wednesday, a health official warned people foraging

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for mushrooms that a single bite of the death Cap
mushroom could cause significant toxicity, and that no amount of
cooking or freezing of the mushroom would inactivate the toxin.
Health update. I'm Sarah Lee Kessler.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Michigan's Big Show starring Michael Patrick.

Speaker 7 (20:54):
Shields Congressman Tom Barrett as a veteran. Are you hearing
anything about Iran and what may happen or may not
happen there in the hallways.

Speaker 8 (21:02):
I'm very, very hopeful that the people of Iran can
take back control of their country the end of the
regime of the Ayatola, the Islamic regime. They're connect home
quick enough. I'm very encouraged by what we're seeing on
the ground. We've been close before.

Speaker 7 (21:16):
Been hopeful for decades about the situation in Iran, and
we live in interesting times, unfolding and right in front
of us as they have been for years and years
and years. It's Michael Patrick Shields twenty one years hosting
this program. And Andrew Abood, his famous family in the
Lansing area and beyond with his law firm, and the

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fact that he's had some very high profile national cases too,
makes him some out of a celebrity, very intelligent fellow
and a thoughtful fellow. And so he's decided to have
the A List Hour podcast by Spotlight Media Studios and
you can find it wherever you get podcasts. It's called
The A List Hour with Andrew Bood spoken to people

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like the Democrat Party chair Curtis Hotel, and Dan Olsen,
the PGA tour player, and he got around to Michael
Patrick Shields. Yeah, and you can see if you want,
ninety minutes of us chitter chattering about this and that
and whatever.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
Here's a small sample.

Speaker 21 (22:18):
And tell me what professionally, the travel part of your
professional career is all about.

Speaker 7 (22:25):
Uh, it's the excitement of education. When I was in college,
I just wanted to take the classes in order to work.

Speaker 21 (22:31):
They're saying five minutes, but we're going to go way over.
So unless you unless you've gotta go.

Speaker 7 (22:37):
No, that's flattering. I'm happy when I see you. I
write about travel, and I go to places on purpose.
I go to dad Las Mouertos in Mazatlan. I've been
to the Quebec Winter Carnival. I'm lucky to be able
to go and experience these things, the running of the bulls,
what have you.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
But I like to hear the stories.

Speaker 7 (22:58):
Our next stories will come from Ireland for Saint Patrick's Day,
thanks to Paul Long and the Michigan Catholic Conference. And
you can read all my travel writing at goworldtravel dot
com or the Lansing State Journal every other Sunday LSJ
dot com. As well and Traveltatler dot org. My latest
book is called Travel Tatler Less than Torrid Tales, and

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it is available at Amazon dot com. And Invite Yourself
to the Party is the other book I've written, well
one of them anyway, and it's full of travel stories.
And if you want to find out what it's like
to travel with the President, I call him mister President
George Herbert walker Bush collaboration available to thank you.

Speaker 22 (23:54):
In VC news Radio, I'm Mark Naythhew, the Border patrol chief,
says protesters are getting out of hand in Minneapolis because
local police are not working with ICE. Greg Bovino says,
unlike in other states, Democrat lawmakers in Minnesota are stopping
police from helping ICE keep the protests under control.

Speaker 23 (24:10):
Anytime we can work with the state and local as
we did in Louisiana, somewhat Illinois and North Carolina and
other places, that's always success for all of us.

Speaker 22 (24:22):
As an example, Bovino said, cops worked with ICE in
Illinois to maintain control under the leadership of Democrat Governor J. B. Pritzker,
who Bovino says is no friend of ICE or President Trump.
Protests have continued in Minneapolis since the Ice of Ball
deadly shooting of protester Rene good DHS Secretary Christy Nome
says people need to be ready to prove their US
citizenship if requested by Immigration and Customs enforcement officers. Tammy

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Truheo Reports.

Speaker 19 (24:46):
Spoke to reporters at the White House and was asked
about operations in Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
If we are on a target and doing an operation,
there may be individuals surrounding that criminal that we may
be asking who they are and why they're there, and
having them validate their identify.

Speaker 19 (25:00):
She claimed that in every situation, ICE agents are doing
targeted enforcement. She added, quote, that's what we've always done.
I'm Tammy Trhio.

Speaker 22 (25:08):
NASA has plans to roll out the Artemus two rocket
this weekend. It's in preparation for the next Moon mission.
The rocket is sent to roll out to launch Pad
thirty nine B at the Kennedy Space Center on Saturday.
NASA could launch the rocket as soon as February for
a crude flight around the Moon, and one of the
coldest games in NFL history could take place this weekend.
Brutal cold temperatures are expected for the Chicago Bears NFC

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Divisional Round playoff matchup against the Los Angeles Rams. The
game doesn't kick off until six thirty pm Eastern, and
forecasters say temperatures could be hovering around minus ten degrees.
The coldest game in NFL history was a so called
Ice Bowl in nineteen sixty seven, when the thermometer hit
thirteen degrees below zero. You're listening to the latest from
NBC News Radio. California's Attorney general is investigating X after

(25:51):
its AI chatpot Grock started creating sexualized deep fake images.
Ag Rob Bonta wants to know why the graphic images
of women and girls are being created without their consent.
Ex owner Elon Musk did not flat out deny that
the images exist, but said he's not aware of any
naked underage images created by Grock. Thinking Machines Labs losing
two key members who are going back to Open AI.

(26:14):
Barrett Zelf and Luke Metz are both co founders of
Thinking Machine's Lab, which is run by CEO Mira Morati.
She is not going back to Open AI with them,
and Wired reports that the entire saga was contentious. Open
Ais are going to pay Serrebus ten billion dollars. The
chipmaker is going to deliver seven hundred and fifty megawatts
of wafer scale systems. They claim that their trips are

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getting an AI upgrade. The desktop version now utilizes Gemini
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a tie to the future of Iran.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
We have details about that.

Speaker 7 (28:02):
In fact, right this very moment, you're listening to Michael
Patrick Shields radio stations across the state of Michigan and
worldwide at MI Big Show dot com. Please to be
with you this morning, and please join on our radio
stage through our AT and T line, Doctor Ramesh sep
Rod She is an Iranian relations and policy expert. Salam

(28:27):
and welcome to the program.

Speaker 25 (28:30):
Good morning, and thank you for having me.

Speaker 6 (28:32):
Cod. We do pronounce your last name for me so
I get it correctly. Please you got it?

Speaker 7 (28:38):
Wow wow, Well, thank you very much. I appreciate that,
and I'm glad to have you. I'm sorry about the
circumstances because I'm reading this morning that what is happening
in Iran is that the killings have stopped, but only
because the protests have been quelled by machine gun guards
going through the streets and making sure that people don't

(28:58):
leave their homes now before they even get a chance
to get out there by the millions and protest.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
The current regime is that what you're hearing, what I'm.

Speaker 25 (29:07):
Hearing is the massacre from the streets which has caused
lives of thousands of people protesting against the regime is
now shifted to massacres into in the presence. The numbers
that I've heard in terms of people arrested has put
fifty thousand people have been arrested for protesting against this regime.

(29:32):
And obviously we are under the dark. The internet has
been shut down in the last one hundred and eighty hours,
which is the longest shutdown of internet and digital blackout
in Iran. So the truth it still remains to be exposed.
But there is a systemic massacred There is a killing

(29:59):
of protesters that's taking place, whether it's happening in the
streets or in prison. Really calls for the international community
to do so much more that they're doing up to
this point.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
What do you need done and how soon?

Speaker 25 (30:16):
The fact is that the Iranian people are rejecting this regime,
and the people of Iran are really looking for the
international community to recognize their rights to self defense and
self determination. There is obviously, well I.

Speaker 7 (30:34):
Think most of us recognize that. But you want something
more than that, don't you?

Speaker 25 (30:39):
Absolutely? Because for example, I don't understand why Europeans are
dragging their feet with designating the IRGC, which is a
terrorist organization as a foreign terrorist organization, len it their
access to various funds, and recognize their true nature as
a terrorist organization. The other thing that we're asking is

(31:00):
why is the Iran's regime ambassadors are still active in
the various countries. The embassies should be shut down, the
ambassadors from all the global community should be recalled from Iran.
Diplomatic isolation and more pressure on this regime should definitely
put this regime unnoticed that the world is watching and

(31:22):
they can just massacre protesters in such a gruesome way.
And then lastly, everyone is really confused about military intervention.
Iranian people have always said, we're not looking for soldiers
from outside, We're not looking for boots on the ground.
What we are looking for is the recognition of the

(31:44):
resistance unit movements that's on the ground to really lead
the movement and defend the rights of the Iranian people
to determine their own future, meaning that if they pick
up arms against this regime, they're not going to be
considered unlabeled in diplomatic negotiations as terrorists. They are defending

(32:09):
and they are determining their own future in their fight
against this regime.

Speaker 7 (32:16):
So why doesn't the world turn on Iran and treat
them as a pariah and isolate them like they do
some other countries. Well, particularly do the Russians have something
to do with that Chinese?

Speaker 6 (32:30):
Maybe?

Speaker 25 (32:31):
You know, Russia and China have not come to Iran's
aid this time or even the previous time, so their
relations with the Iranian state is very transactional. I'm not
really seeing much of a support from Iran's surrogate like
Russia and China. But at the same time, it's a

(32:54):
very good question, why doesn't the world do what it
needs to do to isolate this regime fully, diplomatically, isolate
this regime, and this is the call on the international
community leaders. I have to say, I'm encouraged by the
message that's coming from the European Parliament President who is
saying that yes, we are going to isolate this regime,

(33:17):
but there are countries in Europe that are dragging their feet,
and namely United Kingdom. I know there's tremendous pressure within
the UK Parliament to designate the IRGC as a terrorist organization,
but the British government has not taken any actions on this.
So the time is now, It's not now when that's
the real question to be asked.

Speaker 7 (33:39):
Well, you've asked that question many times over the years,
but to your point, it sure seems now when the
United States did launch an attack and destroy the nuclear capabilities,
at least for the moment of Iran, the rest of
the world sort of gave you exactly what you're talking about,
though they didn't have any outcry. Even the Saudis didn't

(34:01):
say anything about that. So was that a good signal?

Speaker 25 (34:05):
I think elimination of the IRGC leaders or maybe pushing
back the Iran's nuclear weapons in its track with the
twelve Day Award during the summer definitely worked in the
in terms of in terms of peace and stability. But
we need to have a political end game. This is

(34:28):
not military foreign military intervention. It's not without any political endgame.
It's not going to bring this regime down. People in
the streets are shouting down with the dictators and risking
their lives. How do we tie that message to the
broader international community. You know, this is not the first

(34:49):
time the international community has faced a prior state. If
you look at the South Africa and gender, the apartheid
system in South Africa. We took that diploma complete diplomatic
isolation along with the domestic opposition group to bring that
regime down right now in that moment with Iran, Why

(35:12):
isn't the world community recognizing the domestic opposition inside Iran
that has a clear path and transition that calls for
a non nuclear, secular republic in Iran? Why isn't the
world propping up the remnant of the Shaw's regime. The
monarchy is as a potential alternative to this regime. Iranian

(35:34):
people are not going back to monarchy. Iranian people are
rejected monarchy in nineteen seventy nine.

Speaker 7 (35:40):
Well, when we come back, we'll talk more about that
with the doctor Ramish Saparad. Stay right there, we'll be
right here. It's Michael Patrick Shields Salam.

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(38:41):
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Speaker 7 (39:04):
You're listening to Michael Patrick Shields. I'm glad you are,
and we're on radio stations across the state of Michigan
worldwide at miibig show dot com. Dearborn in Michigan has
a high concentration of people from the Middle East.

Speaker 6 (39:17):
We're especially interested.

Speaker 7 (39:18):
Osama Sablani is the publisher of the Arab American News.
He joins us frequently on this program, and we are
speaking this morning with doctor Rams Saparad. She is an
Iranian relations and foreign policy expert. We were talking a
minute ago about the potential for regime change and if
not now when given the events that have taken place

(39:40):
the hideous events, the slaughter of protesters and keeping people
prisoner in their homes. There was talk a doctor a
at the Ayatola having an escape plan where he was
going to go to Russia and that there's a jet
on standby for he and twenty of his chosen to escape.
Did you believe that or was that a sensational story?

Speaker 25 (40:04):
To be honest, it's sometimes when you look at some
of these stories, coming from whatever sources out there, it's
hard to believe what's true what's not true. So I
don't believe the Iranian regime will give up power easily.
And obviously the way they've been killing people in the
streets demonstrates that they're gonna They're killing machine is gonna

(40:29):
run until it's very last minute. But I think the
Ayatola is definitely facing the end of his reign and
they know that the end is near, and now it's
a matter of how we get there, and there are
competing approaches to how we get there. On one hand,

(40:52):
there is the authentic, organic resistance movement on theerground that
wants to bring bring this regime down based done the
people's will and the protests and the sacrifice for a
new revolution in Iran, and that is the movement that
supports Mariam Rajavi's ten plan. It is an independent movement.

(41:15):
And on the other hand you have the monarchists that
are trying to invite foreign intervention in order to impose themselves.
Yet as the future of Iran and a return of monarchy,
so Iranian people are rejecting monarchy. In fact, one of
the popular slogans in the streets was down with the dictators,

(41:39):
be at the shaw or Molus. So we did have
a nineteen seven and nine revolution which was hijacked by
the Ayatolas. What I see in Iran today is a
continuation of that revolution, which is now a rejection of theocracy,
moving forward through a non nuclear, secular republic. Iran is

(41:59):
a combination of lessons learned of previous revolutions and the
uprisings of the Iranian people. And that's what the world
community should support, because that is the authentic change.

Speaker 6 (42:15):
Life was better under the Shah, though, wasn't it? Or
was it?

Speaker 25 (42:20):
Life economically could have was better, but politically and socially wasn't.
The poverty was terrible, and we had marginalized communities, especially
Iranian nationalities, came under severe, severe oppression by the Shaw's regime.
My own uncle is a former political prisoner from the

(42:42):
Shaws era. You could still see the signs of torture
on his body. So political repression was there, executions were there.
But when it comes to that part of the world,
especially when it comes to Iran, as someone who is
a native Iranian, sometimes I wonder why is the wolves
expectation when it comes to democracy freedom, It's so low.

(43:04):
We have to really support a democratic republic in Iran
that really allows the popular sovereignty take roots, that really
allows the people's will to come out of the ballot box,
and not some sort of anointed leader that comes from outside.

Speaker 7 (43:24):
The idea of Raisa Pallavi, the son of the Shah, who,
as I understand it, has at least one or two
daughters who are educated or are being educated at the
University of Michigan here in our state. You reject the
idea that Raisa Pallavi could lead the new Iran like
his father did.

Speaker 25 (43:44):
Absolutely, and it's not just me, it's also the people
of Iran in the street shouting that message, saying no
to show no to Mola, yes to democracy and equality.
You know this. We got to remember the Parlavi dynasty
was installed by the Brits British during the World War Two.

(44:07):
When his grandfather aligned himself with Nazi Germany, he was removed.
He had to applicate his throne to his son, and
his son's power was consolidated through a CIA coup in
nineteen fifty three against doctor Monsdel. And now we see
that the grandson, Raza Pahlavi is now being pushed on

(44:28):
the Iranian regime. Yes, he talks about democracy, Yes he
talks about secularism and freedom, but when it comes to
the issue of republic, that's where he draws the line
because he doesn't believe in popular sovereignty, he doesn't believe
in a ballot box, and he has had multiple failed
occasions to pull in a coalition of Iranians because of

(44:51):
the fact that he's a self centered leader that really
believes in monarchy, even though he tries to hide behind
lofty war democracy. This is a guy who has no
credibility among the Iranian community, both outside and inside of Iran.
He's never held a job in his life. He lives
on the money that his father stole from the Iranian people,

(45:13):
and brought the money out of Iran when they left
in nineteen seventy nine. And he has no political credibility.
So one day he says one thing, the next day
he changes his mind. He doesn't even have a leadership
vision for Iran. This is not what the people of
Iran are giving up their lives for. This is not
what the people of Iran are fighting for. People of Iran,

(45:35):
as we said, are fighting for a secular republic Iran,
and that's what we need to rally or support behind.

Speaker 6 (45:43):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 7 (45:44):
In fact, doctor Kazem Kazurian joined us Kazornian and I
asked him about this very question, and here's what he said.

Speaker 25 (45:52):
Very co chambers of certain interest groups are broadcasting his
name as an alternative, but the Iranian people hates him.
He is a recipe. He's a perfect recipe for.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
In a civil war in Iran.

Speaker 6 (46:09):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 7 (46:10):
And well, thank you very much for your expertise, and
we'll keep in touch both of you. It's Michael Patrick
Shield's dreaming of peace around the world, not just Iran.

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But let's start there.

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We can do that, and we'll start in downtown Detroit. Hey,
it was busy there last night, right, It's busy throughout
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against the team with the worst.

Speaker 32 (49:26):
Record in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
They were in the finals last year, the Indiana Pacers.
The Red Wings back on home ice as they bring
in the San Jose Sharks tonight. Right now, the Wings
have a record of twenty eight, sixteen and four. It's
NFL all weekend, of course, starting tomorrow, you will see
Josh Allen's Bills take on the Broncos from Denver. Also,
the forty nine Ers square off against the Seahawks in Seattle,

(49:49):
and then on Sunday, the Patriots duel with the Texans
from Foxborough. And then we wrap it all up in
freezing Chicago as Matthew Stafford will roll in there with
the as they take on Ben Johnson the Is this
a nightmare for Detroit Lions fans as the Rams and
Bears go one on one against each other?

Speaker 6 (50:08):
Two that got away and you gotta wait.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
All weekend to watch it, So that's gonna be a
lot of fun. The Lions continue to interview people for
their offensive coordinator position. Apparently yesterday was a former Steeler
I got all still current, I guess Steelers offensive coordinator
Arthur Smith. He was with Pittsburgh for the last two
seasons and he was also the head coach for the
Falcons at one point in time. So where they go
we will find out Now, after the baseball season wrapped

(50:33):
up Dodgers winning the World Series, Clayton Kershaw, he went
out like a superstar and it looked like he would
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He's back. He's gonna pitch for Team USA and the
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(50:55):
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with Kyle Tucker moving to right field, it's going to
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Speaker 22 (51:37):
Tomorrow INBC News Radio, I'm Mark Mayfield. Venezuel And opposition
leader Maria Corina Machado has gifted her twenty twenty five
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(52:00):
former leader Nicholas Maduro, the mother of one of Elon
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Explains, Ashley Saint Clair's lawsuit is the latest complaint against
the company after weeks of outrage over grok being used
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Her suit comes after she said she already made several
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the company's terms of service by filing the suit in
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(52:31):
I'm Tammy Triheo.

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And Verizon customers will receive a twenty dollars credit after
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Speaker 19 (52:39):
Mostly cloudy with snow expected in the Northeast as temperatures
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(53:01):
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Southwest as temperatures hit the upper seventies to the low eighties.
Northern and central California sea lingering showers as highs make

(53:23):
it into the mid fifties. Plenty of sunshine in southern
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Pacific Northwest there's rain at the lower elevations and mountain
snow in the Cascades as temperature's top the mid forties.
That's your national forecast. I'm Tammy Trheo.

Speaker 22 (53:53):
In DC news Radio. I'm Mark Mayfield, the Border Patrol chief,
says protests are getting out of hand in Minneapolis because
local police are not working with ICE. Greg Bovino says,
unlike in other states, Democrat lawmakers in Minnesota are stopping
police from helping ICE keep the protests under control.

Speaker 23 (54:10):
Anytime we can work with the state and local as
we did in Louisiana, somewhat Illinois and North Carolina and
other places, that's always success.

Speaker 17 (54:20):
For all of us.

Speaker 22 (54:21):
As an example, Bovino said, cops worked with ICE in
Illinois to maintain control under the leadership of Democrat Governor J. B. Pritzker,
who Bovino says is no friend of ICE or President Trump.
Protests have continued in Minneapolis since the Ice in Wall
deadly shooting of protester Rene Good DHS Secretary Christy Nomes
says people need to be ready to prove their US
citizenship if requested by Immigration and Customs enforcement officers. Tammy

(54:44):
Truheo reports.

Speaker 19 (54:45):
And spoke to reporters at the White House and was
asked about operations in Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
If we are on a target and doing an operation,
there may be individuals surrounding that criminal that we may
be asking who they are and why they're there, and
having them validate their identity.

Speaker 19 (54:59):
She claimed that in every situation, ICE agents are doing
targeted enforcement. She added, quote, that's what we've always done.
I'm Tammy Trhio.

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NASA has plans to roll out the Arnemus two rocket
this weekend. It's in preparation for the next Moon mission.
The rocket is sent to roll out to launch Pan
thirty nine B at the Kennedy Space Center on Saturday.
NASA could launch of the rocket as soon as February
for a crude flight around the Moon, and one of
the coldest games in NFL history could take place this weekend.
Brutal cold temperatures are expected for the Chicago Bears NFC

(55:28):
Divisional round playoff matchup against the Los Angeles Rams. The
game doesn't kick off until six thirty pm Eastern, and
forecasters say temperatures could be hovering around minus ten degrees.
The coldest game in NFL history was a so called
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thirteen degrees below zero. You're listening to the latest from
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Speaker 33 (55:47):
Some experts say trade schools across the country are getting
more popular over traditional college and that is proving true
in the state of Virginia.

Speaker 34 (55:56):
The company Resume Builders as almost half of all gen
Z students are in school for a skilled trade or
blue collar job, and officials with Tidewater Community College say
their dual enrollment program, which includes welding, is currently maxed
down at forty students. They say normally they get about
seven students. College says they're seeing an increase in demand
for programs that teach HVAC repair and automotive as students
can save a lot of money not going the traditional

(56:17):
rout of college and student loans. Skilled trade graduates can
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Speaker 33 (56:26):
A mediator has come in to help with the nurses
strike in New York City. Nurses are demanding lower staff
to patient ratios and workplace safety improvements to hospitals say
they are unable to meet the demands and have brought
in temporary nurses. In Washington State, lawmakers there may consider
a wealth tax this session, brought forward with more The wealth.

Speaker 35 (56:48):
Tax would apply to people making over one million dollars
a year. During a State of the State address, Governor
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to boost the Working Families Tax Credit program that goes
to low and income families. He also wants businesses with
revenue under a million dollars to be exempt for the
B and O tax. The legislature we'll have the final say.

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Customs and Border Protection hiring event in Florida drew more
than just job seekers this week. Protesters gathered in Saint
Petersburg outside of a hotel where CBP officials were meeting
with those interested in working for the agency. Deputies and
police officers were there to keep the peace, and no
violence was reported. Meantime, the agency is preparing to hold
a nationwide virtual career Expo next month. The event is

(57:31):
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Speaker 30 (57:49):
As the Seahawks continued to prep for the Niners in
the NFC Divisional Round Saturday night in Seattle, quarterback Sam
Darnold popped up on the injury report with an oblique
issue he suffered during practice on Thursday.

Speaker 11 (58:01):
Talks about what happened.

Speaker 31 (58:03):
In routes on air, just kind of felt a little
little something obleak. Just didn't want to push it, you know,
wasn't the day to push it.

Speaker 6 (58:11):
So that that was it.

Speaker 31 (58:12):
So just came inside. I got some rehab, and you know,
feel like I'll.

Speaker 6 (58:15):
Be ready to go.

Speaker 30 (58:16):
Niners linebacker Fred Warner will not be activated off injured reserve.
The Dodgers keep adding to their star studded roster, signed
out fielder Kyle Tucker to a four year deal with
two hundred and forty million bucks in the NBA's first
regular season game in Germany. Magic rallied from twenty down
beat the Grizzlies in Berlin. Spurs, led by as many

(58:37):
as thirty nine crush the Bucks one nineteen one oh
one thunder big fourth quarter knock off the Rockets one
eleven ninety one for their fifth straight win that sports
I'm ron tamoss.

Speaker 19 (58:48):
Mostly claudy, with snow expected in the Northeast as temperatures
make it into the mid thirties. Winter storm warnings or
posted from the Midwest into the mid Atlantic as a
stronghold front pushes east, expect did to dump heavy snow
across parts of eleven states. The heaviest is expected from
the central Midwest through the Ohio Valley, of temperatures in
the low thirties. The northern Plain states stay bitterly cold,

(59:11):
with temperatures in the teens and low twenties. The central
and southern Plains will reach near forty, but the gusty
winds there will make it feel a lot colder. The
southeast will make it into the low sixties with increasing
clouds from an approaching system. Mostly sunny throughout the desert
Southwest as temperatures hit the upper seventies to the low eighties.
Northern and central California see lingering showers as highs make

(59:32):
it into the mid fifties. Plenty of sunshine in southern
California with highs in the mid seventies. And in the
Pacific Northwest, there's rain at the lower elevations and mountain
snow in the Cascades as temperature's top the mid forties.
That's your national forecast. I'm Tammy Triheo.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Live across the Great Lake State. You are connected to
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Big Show starring Michael Patrick Shields, presented by Blue Cross,
Blue Shield Michigan and Blue Care Network.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
I'm producer and creative director Tony Cuthberts.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Now in the shadow of the Capitol Dome and Lansing.
He's heard from the beaches of Lake Michigan, to the
halls of power and behind closed doors. Here's Michigan's Michael
Patrick Shields.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
Michael Patrick Shields, You're either a Broadway star or a
serial killer.

Speaker 7 (01:00:31):
I'm kind of a big d L Bill Curtis, Well,
you are a big so you stay classy.

Speaker 6 (01:00:38):
Michael.

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
Michael Patrick Shields is on the air.

Speaker 6 (01:00:42):
Good morning world, Stay classy.

Speaker 7 (01:00:45):
Representative Steve Cara from Three Rivers, the Republican who's on
our radio stage for the first time here in twenty
twenty six Western Michigan University graduate and we appreciate your
time this morning.

Speaker 6 (01:00:58):
Welcome to the airwaves.

Speaker 36 (01:01:01):
Good morning, going to be on.

Speaker 7 (01:01:03):
You have been very creative on social media lately and
very entertaining I might say too, and thought provoking at
the same time, which is nice to have a spoonful
of sugar with the medicine, I might say.

Speaker 37 (01:01:16):
Yes.

Speaker 36 (01:01:17):
I like to try to teach through satire and I'm
finding some new ways of doing it and it's been
good in getting a message out there.

Speaker 7 (01:01:24):
So if you want to see and hear what I'm
talking about, find Steve Kara, the state represented Kara, State
Representative on social media and you can laugh along at
home too, and you can probably be provoked into some
level of action politically by what he's doing.

Speaker 6 (01:01:38):
And I noticed, in.

Speaker 7 (01:01:41):
Fact, just the other day the governor just yesterday decided
to do her own social media and she was at
the auto show and it sounded.

Speaker 37 (01:01:51):
Like this, Thanks Gretchen. So we are here at Detroit
Auto Show, downtown Detroit, the best auto show in North America.
It's an exciting time to come down and check I'll
be safe on those roads. It's a little hazardous out there.
And now I'm going to kick it over to Big
Grutch on the show floor. Thanks, Thanks Gretchen. I'm here
on the floor. It's so exciting. Vibes are immaculate, and

(01:02:13):
I'm out here by GM. They're rampant up for catalyst.

Speaker 7 (01:02:16):
Anyway, the point of it is that you can hear
she's tossing it from Gretchen to Gretchen and trying to
have some fun with it and so forth. And I
guess that's the modern era of politics. Have you seen
that clip? And what do you think of her? I
don't know if you call it satire Schmaltz maybe is
more what it is.

Speaker 36 (01:02:35):
Yeah, No, I had not seen that one, but she
was doing similar with the football with Barry Sanders, tossing
the ball back and forth, and so I interjected myself
into that conversation and I thought it made it for
some pretty good material.

Speaker 7 (01:02:49):
You did that with some crafty editing where you were
inserted into the ball, and that's what that's been getting
my attention. So I've been eager to speak to you
about this approach that you call satire, and it certainly is.

Speaker 6 (01:03:01):
But I would say.

Speaker 7 (01:03:03):
You are well, you've got a burr in your saddle
about the governor. It seems she seems to be the
focus of your clips.

Speaker 36 (01:03:13):
Why, well, she gives me, well, she gives me a
lot of good material to work with, unfortunately, but that's
that's just how it goes. And you know, there's going
to be some other stuff coming out soon where there
will be some other people featured in some of my content.
But just just trying to make a difference, and sometimes

(01:03:33):
it's easier to get people's attention if you get to
the point of some facts while also giving a little
bit of humor along the way.

Speaker 7 (01:03:40):
Well, we only have a few more months to go
with this governor. But what has happened so far and
the way she governs now you seem to take a
particular issue with Can you tell us why.

Speaker 36 (01:03:54):
My biggest issue and difference, i'd say, is regarding corporate giveaways.
She likes to take money from the hard waking people
of Michigan and give it to the publically connected. I
was very grateful to see the results from twenty twenty
five that there was no new legislative directed corporate handouts
zero dollars in twenty twenty five. That was fantastic and

(01:04:16):
that's thanks to Republican leadership, the work that we've done
in committee, and hopefully that continues. But we definitely have
plums to break, and I think that the people of
Michigan need tax relief, not more money taken from them
for the publically connected.

Speaker 7 (01:04:32):
Another form of tax relief you've been connected with is
the idea that if you don't have children in public schools,
you should get a break on your property taxes.

Speaker 36 (01:04:42):
Yes, that's correct. In Michigan, we spend on average twenty
one thousand, six hundred and twenty nine dollars per government
educated child. That is a whole like of a lot
of money compared to private schools, which range between fifty
two hundred typically to ninety five hundred on high end.
Certainly there are private schools that are more expensive, but

(01:05:04):
like Milton Friedman says, the government does things at twice
the cost of the private sector. In the case of
government education, it's over twice that amount.

Speaker 7 (01:05:13):
This proposal, as I'm reading, would exempt seventy two percent
of Michigan households from the portion of property tax that
supports the government school system. That's a pretty big number
and a pretty big financial loss for funding the schools,
isn't it.

Speaker 20 (01:05:30):
Is?

Speaker 36 (01:05:30):
That is about seven billion dollars less in money that
the schools would get. Not sure how many students would
still use the government schools, but it would still add
up to sixteen thousand dollars on average per government educated
child once it's fully phased in over five years, which
is still substantially more than the private schools get. So

(01:05:51):
twenty two billion dollars in funding compared to the twenty
nine billion dollars they're currently getting, and that's far more
money than the private schools are using. I think we
need to find ways to use the money that we
have better and not continue to throw more money at
a failing system as it continues to fail worse and worse.

Speaker 6 (01:06:09):
That's really what the proposal is about, isn't it.

Speaker 25 (01:06:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 36 (01:06:14):
I mean, everybody would still be contributing through sales tax
and income tax, regardless of whether or not they're using
government education they play the lottery syntaxes. There's all kinds
of different revenue streams that help to fund government education.
This would just give some much needed property tax relief
to the seventy two percent of households in Michigan who

(01:06:35):
are not using the government schools. It makes that portion simple.
If you use the government school you pay the property tax.
If you don't use it, you don't pay the property tax,
but you still chip in with all the other forms
of taxations.

Speaker 7 (01:06:50):
You could make the argument that if you live in Michigan,
you are benefiting from educated children, even if they're not
your own.

Speaker 36 (01:06:59):
People will make that up argument, and I also will
make that argument because that doesn't simply mean that government
is the one doing the education. There's a lot of
very intelligent people who come out of private education or
out of homeschooling, and so we benefit off of the
good education. In other ways, we put that up to
what we're getting in government schools. These days, I want

(01:07:20):
a good education, and it's not convinced government educations doing
the best we can do.

Speaker 7 (01:07:25):
Catholic schools, I suppose, should be added to that list
as well of options. But the government doesn't want you
sending your kids to any of those schools, not even
charter schools, correct, at least not this administration.

Speaker 36 (01:07:38):
It seems like they don't want you to. I mean,
of course they get more funding for the government schools
and for their teachers' unions and squandering money on inefficient
ways instead of focusing on reading, writing, and arithmetic. But
my focus is on better education, not necessarily government education.

Speaker 6 (01:07:58):
Well, thank you very much for the call.

Speaker 7 (01:07:59):
Happy new year to you, and you have a very
strong gift for getting attention to issues that are important
to you, sometimes in very controversial ways, but nevertheless that's
the modern era of media and governing. Steve Cara from
West Michigan with Michael Patrick Shields, three Rivers, that's where

(01:08:21):
he's from. It's Michael Patrick with you business leaders from Michigan.
Says the next governor ought to focus on education no
matter who the governor is. The workforce and business fundamentals too.
More to coom Michael Patrick Shields. Don't forget too. Oakland
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Speaker 14 (01:10:53):
Harry Styles is coming out with new music soon. The
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will drop March sixth Actor Timothy Busfield has been dropped

(01:11:16):
by his talent agency after his arrest on child sex
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The actor accused of sexually abusing two boys who acted
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The Cleaning Lady. Busfield also facing new accusations that he
sexually abused a sixteen year old girl during an audition
in California. He did not enter a plea during his

(01:11:36):
first court appearance in New Mexico. A third Phineas and
Ferb movie is greenlit for production on Disney Plus later
this year.

Speaker 11 (01:11:43):
Oh Honest, twenty eight years later.

Speaker 14 (01:11:49):
Bone Temple is fighting to lead the domestic box office
this weekend, the fourth installment in Sony's dystopian franchise, aiming
for twenty to twenty two million dollars in its four
day debut. It's biggest competition comes from Avatar, Fire and Ash.
This sequel to the Way of the Water, it's looking
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It's also out alongside Focus Features Hamnet, expanding to six

(01:12:12):
hundred eighty eight theaters after several weekends and limited release
and it's Golden Globe win. That's entertainment. I'm Jennifer PULSONI.

Speaker 6 (01:12:29):
Mustang, sign It.

Speaker 32 (01:12:35):
Kiss You bed a solo mustnake.

Speaker 7 (01:12:40):
Got a message from a listener a minute ago who
was listening to state Representative Steve Carra, who said, my
mom and dad sent seven kids through Catholic schools all
along they paid for Hazlet public schools, and he did
the same with three kids. Vouchers would be nice, he said.
Vouchers starts award a politically. When you talk like that,

(01:13:02):
it's Michael Patrick shields through the AT and T microphones
and you're hearing that song about Mustang. The Ford Motor
Company yesterday made their announcement at the well you know
what it used to be a dilapidated train station down
there in Corktown where they'll be celebrating St. Patrick's Day
very soon. But yesterday the Ford Motor Company and Bill

(01:13:24):
Ford and Dax Shephard and Nicole Briscoe were there to
talk about Formula one and Ford in this year's racing circuit.
Here's the Ford chairman, Bill Ford.

Speaker 9 (01:13:35):
Well, hi everybody, and good evening and I'm so proud
to welcome you to Detroit, the home of Ford Racing.
So we're here in Michigan Central Station and this building
was once the symbol of the decay of Detroit and
now it's really a symbol of its resurgence. I'm so
happy with how it turned out. And there's no better

(01:13:56):
backdrop for kicking off.

Speaker 7 (01:13:57):
Our return to f one with Red Bull Ford Versus
Ferrari all over again. And that train station now looks
like a jewel box when you drive through Corktown as
the renaissance of the city, if you want to still
call it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:12):
That continues.

Speaker 7 (01:14:13):
Ken Hayward is the chief operating officer at visit Detroit.
You can go to visit Detroit dot com and plan
your trip asap.

Speaker 6 (01:14:21):
And it's sort of ironic. A man who worked on
an island.

Speaker 7 (01:14:24):
With no cars for decades is now in the middle
of an auto show welcome back to the airwaves.

Speaker 17 (01:14:30):
That is kind of ironic, Michael Patrick, isn't it We
had horsepower up there, but it was different.

Speaker 6 (01:14:36):
That's right.

Speaker 7 (01:14:37):
Horsepower and everything that comes with that exhaust will put
it that way. Maybe is a nicer way to say,
but I do remember seeing you in your tuxedo at
the black Tie Charity Preview every year and this is
in the lifeblood of Detroit and back where it belongs.
It sounds like in January, and it's been an exciting week,

(01:14:58):
not only for the city but for the automotive Cadillac
is bringing back F one racing as well.

Speaker 6 (01:15:03):
And I know that took place at the Auto show.

Speaker 7 (01:15:05):
But what advice would you have for somebody who says, Okay,
we had all the media, we had all the industry
people Friday night, the black Tie Charity Preview, we want
in if they're coming to the auto show, what advice
would you have?

Speaker 17 (01:15:19):
Well, I think what the advice I would have is
give it a chance. And it's not the same auto show.
It's not your day at or Grandpa's Auto Show. Sam
Clement and the group at DBA Rod Albert had a
great tradition. They tried something different. A pandemic happened at
a time when they were trying to transition to do

(01:15:40):
it maybe a little something different at a different time
of the year. And they're back to January to its roots.
But we're so excited at visit Detroit as to how
they're repositioning the show and making it interactive, making it
fun for families kids. You know, before it was a

(01:16:03):
place where you went and looked at products and maybe
bought a car. You know, people buy cars differently today.
So they're making it a showcase and they're making it
fun and they're.

Speaker 5 (01:16:16):
Making it experience.

Speaker 17 (01:16:17):
So what I would say is, you know, give it,
give it a chance, come down and see it. There's
a lot of interactive things to do. There's three different
tracks where you can actually experience being in a vehicle
and doing different things. And we're really proud, you know,
to be sponsoring an interactive experience and more in the

(01:16:39):
atrium area where people can actually see things, do things,
and you know, it's just a different show. And I
remember being with you. I had a couple of these
shows back.

Speaker 19 (01:16:49):
In the day.

Speaker 17 (01:16:50):
And the charity preview, you know, hasn't changed its focus.
It's to raise money for children's charities in the city
of Detroit and we're still doing that and I respect
the momentum and the ramp up has felt different this year.
I think people are very excited to have it back
and we're looking forward to it.

Speaker 7 (01:17:12):
We interviewed Sam Clement recently and he reminded me that
he was an intern on my program at one time,
a long time ago. That shows how long you and
I have been around from yeah, sure does yeah. And
in the small World department, we spoke to Debbie Dingle,
the congresswoman, a couple of days ago, and I asked her,

(01:17:33):
who are you going to be wearing at the black
tie charity preview and she said, I don't even care
what I look like, and she I hope I won't
look bad, but I don't care much about that, which
sort of cracked me up.

Speaker 17 (01:17:45):
Yeah, well she always looks great, you know that. And
you know, tonight is going to be a night where
it's it's a place to be seen and see people.

Speaker 20 (01:17:54):
Right.

Speaker 17 (01:17:55):
It's great that the charity children's charities get the benefit
of the night, but this is a night where, you know,
you do get a chance to run into the Debbie
Dingles of the world, and the new mayor of Detroit
to the world, and and lots of other business and
movers and shakers, as they say. And it's you know,

(01:18:16):
but I can just tell you that there's a different
vibe based on the new direction of the show. It's
you know, three years back in January. Now there's a
different vibe and everybody's really excited, and I expect it's
going to feel like the old days. And I hate
to sound like that, but you know it was. It
was the thing before and it's becoming the thing again,

(01:18:40):
meaning the charity preview and the show is going to
be very relevant what it does for downtown in January
and a relatively quiet time. You know, one thing we
can always count, Michael Patrick, is it's going to be
really cold on Charity preview night and it's probably going
to snow a little bit. And that's good because it's
bringing lots of business to our our hotels and our

(01:19:01):
restaurants and our retail outlets downtown at a time when
maybe they wouldn't be very busy.

Speaker 7 (01:19:07):
It's a very good place to get your steps in
for the next week or so inside with the lights
and the bells and whistles, you know, and to park
your car and go inside and enjoy yourself. And in
the old days, Ken Heyward, an interactive experience at the
auto show meant you could sit in the vehicle. That
was about it, right, So thank you for bringing us
into the modern era.

Speaker 17 (01:19:29):
Yeah, well you couldn't even do that. And some of them,
you know, and that's that's sure. But I think identify
identifying you know what the show needs to be and
to make it something, make it fun, right, and and
something you go do, not something you go see.

Speaker 7 (01:19:44):
Visit to Troy will be right out front in the lobby.
Even if you don't go in the show, stop in
at Huntington Place and visit Detroit's.

Speaker 22 (01:19:51):
California's Attorney general is investigating X after it's AI chatbot
Grock started creating sexualized deep fake images. Ag Rob Botta
wants to know why the graphic images of women and
girls are being created without their consent. Ex owner Elon
Musk did not flat out deny that the images exist,
but said he's not aware of any naked underage images
created by Grock. Thinking Machines Labs losing two key members

(01:20:14):
who are going back to Open AI. Barrett Zelf and
Luke Mattz are both co founders of Thinking Machine's Lab,
which is run by CEO Mira Morati. She is not
going back to Open AI with them, and Wired reports
that the entire saga was contentious. Open Ais are going
to pay Serrebus ten billion dollars. The chipmaker is going
to deliver seven hundred and fifty megawatts of wafer scale systems.

(01:20:35):
They claim that their trips are faster than GPU based systems,
and Google Trends Explorer is getting an AI upgrade. The
desktop version now utilizes Gemini to automatically identify and compare
trends Tech Report. I'm Mark Mayfield.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Michigan's Big Show starring Michael Patrick.

Speaker 7 (01:20:54):
Shields Congressman Tom Barrett as a veteran. Are you hearing
anything about iron and what may happen or may not
happen there in the hallways.

Speaker 8 (01:21:02):
I'm very, very hopeful that the people of Iran can
take back control of their country the end of the
regime of the Iyahtola, the Islamic regime. They're connect come
quick enough. I'm very encouraged by what we're seeing on
the ground. We've been close before.

Speaker 7 (01:21:17):
Thank you for staying close to this program through mibigshow
dot com. One of the people we stay very close
with is Andy Hutzel at Blue Cross, Blue Shield of Michigan,
and he stays close on those drug companies. He says
competition is a very good thing to keep the price down.

Speaker 40 (01:21:32):
Competition, as we all know, lowers price the more competitors
that you have selling a product, the more choice there
is in the market, and that choice lowers prices. Companies
compete on price, and that is not what's happening in
the prescription drug space right now for a lot of
drugs that are granted these patent monopolies ten fifteen years

(01:21:55):
or more. And until the government reforms that practice and
allows petition to get to the market faster, we have
Blue Cross want to do what we can to innovate
biosimilar We intend to introduce more as these high cost
drugs come off with patent in the future.

Speaker 7 (01:22:12):
Blue Cross has Michigan covered head to toe, inside and out,
ready to help with health and wellness resources for the
body and mind, and you can learn more at bc
BSM dot com. The reason I said, Ken Hayward worked
for decades on a place with no cars as he worked.

Speaker 6 (01:22:27):
On Macinaw Island.

Speaker 7 (01:22:28):
And we're looking forward already to being back at Mission
Point Resort on Mackinaw Island for the Detroit Regional Chamber
Policy Conference. And you know what, you can get there
before we do by booking now when they open in
early May. MPs with you not too far from there
is the mackinaw Bridge, and if you drive over that
bridge and you look to the west, you'll see where

(01:22:49):
the line five pipelines of an operating for more than
sixty years successfully.

Speaker 6 (01:22:54):
On the bottom of the strait.

Speaker 7 (01:22:55):
So they were built by the same company as the
mackinaw Bridge in fact, and they're going to be two
hundred feet below in the bedrock when Enbridge gets done
finishing their project. The Great Lakes Tunnel is what it's called.
They're going to spend two hundred million of their own
money to help keep you warm in the state of
Michigan with propane and the other service elements that will
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Speaker 22 (01:23:54):
In VC news Radio, I'm Mark Nyview, the Border Patrol
chief says protests are getting out of hand in Minneapolis
because local police are not working with ice. Greg Bovino says,
unlike in other states, Democrat lawmakers in Minnesota are stopping
police from helping ICE keep the protests under control.

Speaker 23 (01:24:10):
Anytime we can work with the state and local as
we did in Louisiana, somewhat Illinois and North Carolina and
other places, that's always success for all of us.

Speaker 22 (01:24:22):
As an example, Bovino said cops worked with ICE in
Illinois to maintain control under the leadership of Democrat Governor J. B. Pritzker,
who Bovino says is no friend of ICE or President Trump.
Protests have continued in Minneapolis since the ICE of ball
deadly shooting of protester Rene good DHS Secretary Christy Nomes
says people need to be ready to prove their US
citizenship if requested by Immigration and Customs enforcement officers. Tammy

(01:24:44):
Truheo reports well and.

Speaker 19 (01:24:46):
Spoke to reporters at the White House and was asked
about operations in Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
If we are on a target and doing an operation,
there may be individuals surrounding that criminal that we may
be asking who they are and why they're there, and
having them validate their identity.

Speaker 19 (01:25:00):
She claimed that in every situation, ICE agents are doing
targeted enforcement. She added quote, that's what we've always done.
I'm Tammy Truhio.

Speaker 22 (01:25:08):
NASA has plans to roll out the Artamus two rocket
this weekend. It's in preparation for the next Moon mission.
The rocket is sent to roll out to launch Pad
thirty nine B at the Kennedy Space Center on Saturday.
NASA could launch of the rocket as soon as February
for a crude flight around the Moon. And one of
the coldest games in NFL history could take place this weekend.
Brutal cold temperatures are expected for the Chicago Bears NFC

(01:25:29):
Divisional Round playoff matchup against the Los Angeles Rams. The
game doesn't kick off until six thirty pm Eastern, and
forecasters say temperatures could be hovering around minus ten degrees.
The coldest game in NFL history was a so called
Ice Bowl in nineteen sixty seven, when the thermometer hit
thirteen degrees below zero. You're listening to the latest from
NBC News Radio.

Speaker 18 (01:25:48):
President Trump is bringing whole milk back to school cafeterias.

Speaker 19 (01:25:53):
The President signed a buy a partisan bill that reversed
Obama error restrictions to allow schools to offer whole and
two percent milk.

Speaker 20 (01:26:00):
With this legislation, schools will finally be able to expand
their offerings to include nutritious whole milk.

Speaker 19 (01:26:06):
The Obama rules restricted students to fat free or low
fat milk. I'm Tammy Trihillo.

Speaker 18 (01:26:12):
California authorities are reporting the state's largest ever outbreak of
mushroom poisoning. The California Department of Public healsis thirty five
people have been poisoned by the so called death cap
mushroom since last November, and that the average number of
mushroom poisonings per year is only five. In a news
conference on Wednesday, a health official warned people foraging for

(01:26:34):
mushrooms that a single bite of the death Cap mushroom
could cause significant toxicity, and that no amount of cooking
or freezing of the mushroom would inactivate the toxin. Health
update I'm Sarah Lee Kessler.

Speaker 6 (01:27:00):
Sufficial. Not a moment too soon either.

Speaker 7 (01:27:12):
There's been work being done at Amway Stadium and Grand Rapids.
One million pounds of steel have been erected there. The
company construction company Rockford hit the milestone recently, and the
president and CEO, Shane Napper, says that makes up almost
one third of the steel that'll be installed. It's going

(01:27:33):
to open next year in the spring on an eight
acre site along US one thirty one near Pearl Street,
and there'll be the home of ac Grand Rapids Major
League Soccer in the next Pro League. Congratulations to them.
And by the way, I mentioned Oakland University a little
while ago. The first round of students pursuing their Physician

(01:27:53):
Assistant master's degree now in session in Rochester. The program
prepares students to diagnose and manage patients under the supervision
of a doctor. It's twenty eight month program and involves
classroom work and clinical work, and the Associate professor, Constance Burke,
says the program is a reflection of the school's commitment.

Speaker 6 (01:28:14):
To providing quality education.

Speaker 7 (01:28:17):
Next generation of health professionals. Very interesting physicians assistant because
sometimes when you can't get to a doctor quickly, they
can handle what you might be looking for. We appreciate
that very much and we look forward to talking to
Oakland University about this program in the coming days and
maybe even Constance Burke. A mom is being ordered to

(01:28:39):
take impulse control classes. What happened and why Well, she
pleaded guilty to making a fake bomb threat against McCombe
County High School.

Speaker 6 (01:28:52):
Crystal Royster made two.

Speaker 7 (01:28:53):
Threats against Lake Shore High School and shaint Clair Shores
after her daughter wasn't allowed to participate in the school.
This was in March twenty twenty five. The school stopped
her daughter from participating due to illness. Royster sentenced to
eighteen months of probation and fourteen.

Speaker 6 (01:29:14):
Days in jail. Doctor Heather Zax.

Speaker 7 (01:29:18):
Psychologist from East Lansing, is on our radio stage our
AT and T line right this very moment.

Speaker 6 (01:29:23):
Happy New Year to you, and thank you for being available.

Speaker 4 (01:29:27):
Happy New Year, Happy Happy New Year. You're a mom.

Speaker 7 (01:29:32):
I know I think you can understand how a mother
bear can be protective of her child. But that's going
a bit far, isn't that. What would you say about
this case if she were sitting in front of you, Well,
I would.

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
Hope that she would come on her own volition. And
that's one of the challenges in this situation is a
lot of times people come, but they come because then
they're assigned to come, or it's part of some kind
of probationary dynamic. And so one of the first things
we want to do is try to get people in
while they still have choice. And one of the things

(01:30:08):
I say to people all the time is when you
lose your choice to come, you also lose some element
of capacity to grow from the experience. Right, So ideally
somebody would come in and advance. Hay, I'm really struggling
and frustrated Mama Bear's coming out. How do I handle
this in this situation? Even coming post can be helpful
because hopefully it would teach some good coping skills for

(01:30:30):
Mama Bear, impact and impulse and interesting. I'm interested in
the punishment of it that it you got to the
legal precedent to build some piples of punishment for her
that went outside of something like a therapeutic dynamic. The normal.

Speaker 7 (01:30:51):
Well, I don't know, give us a little bit of
not very yeah, well no, the fake bomb threat is
a bit.

Speaker 6 (01:31:00):
Much, but.

Speaker 4 (01:31:03):
Not normal.

Speaker 6 (01:31:05):
She knew not to actually make the bomb. So there's that.

Speaker 7 (01:31:08):
But if they said we're going to give you an
impulse control class and it's going to be conducted by
doctor Heather Zach, how how do you go about impulse
control teach us because we might need it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
Well, you know, whomever said that was putting something out
there trying to navigate doing something right. They wanted this
woman to do something. Whether it's impulse control, control, or
emotional regulation, we can call it all sorts of names.
So one of the things that we would start with
is what's going on here right, what's going on in
that protective nature that then you would overstep a line

(01:31:43):
that we know is pretty definitively marked. And sometimes people
are so out of touch with their own emotionality that
that impulse of dynamic comes out. So what we want
to do is try to bring people conscious even anger
work in this situation, because we could call it impulse,
we could call it, you know, needing some anger work.
It's difficult to know. What we know is we want

(01:32:05):
someone to become conscious that they're having an emotion and
that they had emotion is now deregulated, and that they're
going to lead to some type of behavior that's going
to get them and somebody else in trouble. Consequence, something
negative is going to come from it. So what we
want to teach everyone is how to be conscious of
what's going on in our minds, bodies, and spirits and

(01:32:25):
what to do with it. I have patients every day
that we literally have a toolkit list, it's written down,
we go through it. People become very astute knowing what
their tools are and their toolkit. We call it resourcing.
And unless you know that and are taught that and
it's practiced again and again and again, we can talk

(01:32:46):
about it quickly, we can talk about it, you know,
on an Instagram. It doesn't show up when you're under dress.
And so it's one of the things that we need
to help people to understand is you need your toolkit
learned when you're not under dress, because when you're under dress,
that's when you will forget it unless it's well learned
in advance of that. So one of the things we

(01:33:06):
would do is really work on building a toolkit that's
supportive of emotional dynamics hogative dynamics that then lead to
choices that really don't serve her and or anyone else.

Speaker 7 (01:33:22):
I heard a phrase yesterday I never heard before called
rage bait, and I said, hm, I guess that's what
that is. And when somebody throws something out there to
try to get your goat, you know, or try to
get at you. And I have learned very recently, and
I mean very recently, at age fifty eight, to no
longer take the rage bait in a conversation, let it go,

(01:33:44):
don't act impulsively, don't get into an argument, think about
it for a few hours if I have to steal
over it, and by then it sort of dissipates a
little bit. Am I growing up?

Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
Oh?

Speaker 37 (01:33:57):
I'm so proud of you.

Speaker 4 (01:33:58):
You are, You're growing up. And remember, rage bait is
a great little term. We have all sorts of terms
out there. The reality is many people don't even understand
themselves that they're quote unquote rage baiting. They don't even
understand themselves what they're doing. It's ego involved, it's not
being conscious. There's all sorts of dynamics there. And that

(01:34:20):
being said, you are in control of your own thoughts,
feelings and actions. One of the things I say all
the time is, you know, bless me to change myself,
not my circumstance, because I am in control of what
I do next. Now, that doesn't mean the circumstance doesn't
impact me. It can, and it does. All the more
reason to go back and have that toolkit available to you.

(01:34:41):
Whether it's rage bait, whether it's someone on the other
end being just not kind or loving, whether it's someone
who themselves is really impulsive. It's hard to know with
any kind of malice. We want to make sure that
we have some sense of grounding and some sense of purpose,
and that we know what we can choose to do
out of our toolcit. What's in your toolkit? That's the

(01:35:03):
question today.

Speaker 6 (01:35:05):
A good old passive aggressive approach.

Speaker 7 (01:35:07):
Sometimes you have to notice too very quickly that woman's
going to jail for fourteen days. This mother, if you
had a chance to prep her for that experience, what
advice would.

Speaker 6 (01:35:16):
You give her?

Speaker 4 (01:35:19):
You know, I have worked with a couple of folks
actually in jail. I've actually been to the jails, to
the prisons and worked with folks right in there doing
some therapy dynamics, the same dynamic. What's in your toolkit?
How do you modulate yourself? As well as what's the goal?
How do you get through this? What's your day to
day momentum? One of the things I worked with a
woman on who was actually in jail was just trying

(01:35:42):
to maintain her own space.

Speaker 7 (01:35:44):
Happy birthday to doctor Heather Zach, a superstar of this
program in East Lansing.

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Speaker 22 (01:37:54):
INNBC News Radio. I'm Mark Mayfield. Venezuela and opposition leader
Maria Corina Machado Is gifted her twenty twenty five Nobel
Peace Prize to President Trump. The two men at the
White House on Thursday and afterward, but John o'told reporters
she presented the medal to Trump in appreciation for deposing
Venezuela's former leader Nicholas Maduro, the mother of one of
Elon Musk's children, issuing its Exai artificial intelligence company over

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Speaker 19 (01:38:19):
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Speaker 6 (01:42:08):
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Speaker 5 (01:43:37):
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January about that is all the entries that you earn
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Speaker 7 (01:44:40):
Jim, I have fuzzy math, but do you you're talking
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Speaker 6 (01:44:48):
Do you know how much that's gonna cost you?

Speaker 23 (01:44:53):
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Speaker 5 (01:44:54):
The promotions team has a responsibility to show me and
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It's kind of a combo of things, so we throw
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Speaker 7 (01:45:53):
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Speaker 30 (01:47:21):
As the Seahawks continue to prep for the Niners in
the NFC Divisional Round Saturday night in Seattle, Quarterback Sam
Darnold popped up on the injury report with an oblique
issue he suffered during practice on Thursday.

Speaker 11 (01:47:33):
Talks about what happened.

Speaker 31 (01:47:35):
In routes on air. Just kind of felt a little
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So that was it.

Speaker 31 (01:47:44):
So I just came in, saw, I got some rehab,
and you know, feel like I'll be ready to go.

Speaker 30 (01:47:48):
Niners linebacker Fred Warner will not be activated off injured reserve.
The Dodgers keep adding to their star studded roster, signed
out fielder Kyle Tucker to a four year deal.

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Angeles Rams at the Chicago Bears. And the weather forecast

(01:49:59):
let's just say less than favorable for both of those
teams on Sunday evening. How are the Rams going to adjust?
I would say are they practicing outside this week? But
I don't think that's gonna make a difference. So maybe
they get there a little bit early and see what
they can do. There is some hope for better weather
at some point in time. Maybe you watch the Sony
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(01:50:22):
better than that. Nick Taylor and Kevin Roy. Not sure
about either of those guys, but they are the leaders
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round of the Australian Open will begin on Sunday. With
all of those stars down under, it feels like it's
in a different world, but once again, you get to
watch it early in the morning, So what could be
better than that. Now, the Pistons, they were at home
last night, in the midst of all the action going

(01:50:42):
on in downtown Detroit. They brought in the Phoenix Suns
and Detroit was a winner one oh five. Duncan Robinson
led the team with nineteen points. The Pistons will continue
their home stand on Saturday against the Indiana Pacers, the
team with the worst record in the Association, the Red Wings.
Back on home ice, they're bringing in the San Jose
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