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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Pres officials.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Not a moment too soon either. There has been work
being done at Amway Stadium and Grand Rapids. One pounds
of steel have been erected there. The company construction company Rockford,
(00:33):
hit the milestone recently and the president and CEO, Shane
Napper says that makes up almost one third of the
steel that'll be installed. It's going to open next year
in the spring on an eight acre site along US
one thirty one near Pearl Street, and they'll be the
home of AC Grand Rapids Major League Soccer in the
(00:54):
next Pro League. Congratulations to them. And by the way,
I mentioned Oakland University a little while ago. The first
round of students pursuing their Physician Assistant master's degree now
in session in Rochester. The program prepares students to diagnose, treat,
and manage patients under the supervision of a doctor. It's
twenty eight month program and involves classroom work and clinical work,
(01:18):
and the Associate professor, Constance Burke, says the program is
a reflection of the school's commitment to providing quality education
next generation of health professionals. Very interesting physician's assistant because
sometimes when you can't get to a doctor quickly, they
can handle what you might be looking for. We appreciate
(01:38):
that very much, and we look forward to talking to
Oakland University about this program in the coming days and
maybe even Constance Burke, a mom is being ordered to
take impulse control classes. What happened and why Well, she
pleaded guilty to making a fake bomb threat against McCombe
(02:00):
County High School. Crystal Royster made two threats against Lake
Shore High School and shaint Clair Shores after her daughter
wasn't allowed to participate in the school play. This was
in March twenty twenty five. The school stopped her daughter
from participating due to illness. Royster sentenced to eighteen months
(02:21):
of probation and fourteen days in jail. Doctor Heather Zax,
psychologist from East Lansing, is on our radio stage our
AT and T line right this very moment. Happy New
Year to you and thank you for being available.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Happy New Year, Happy Happy New Year. You're a mom.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I know I think you can understand how a mother
bear can be protective of her child. But that's going
a bit far, isn't it. What would you say about
this case if she were sitting in front of you, Well,
I would.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Hope that she would come on her own volition, and
that's one of the channel and just in this situation
is a lot of times people come, but they come
because then they're assigned to come, or it's part of
some kind of probationary dynamic. And so one of the
first things we want to do is try to get
people in while they still have choice. And one of
(03:16):
the things I say to people all the time is
when you lose your choice to come, you also lose
some element of capacity to grow from the experience. Right,
So ideally somebody would come in and advance. Hay, I'm
really struggling and frustrated Mama Bear's coming out. How do
I handle this? In this situation, even coming post can
be helpful because hopefully it would teach some good coping
(03:39):
skills for Mama Bear, impact and impulse and interesting. I'm
interested in the punishment of it, that it got to
the legal precedent to build some type of punishment for
her that went outside of something like a therapeutic dynamic.
The normal.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, I don't know, give us a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Of not.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Very yeah, well no, the fake bomb threat is bit much, but.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Normal.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
She knew not to actually make the bomb.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
So there's that.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
But when they if they said we're going to give
you an impulse control class and it's going to be
conducted by doctor Heather Zach, how how do you go
about impulse control teach us because we might need it.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well, you know, whomever said that was putting something out there,
trying to navigate doing something right. They wanted this woman
to do something. Whether it's impulse control, control or emotional regulation,
we can call it all sorts of names. But one
of the things that we would start with is what's
going on here right? What's going on in that protective
(04:50):
nature that then you would overstep a line that we
know is pretty definitively marked. And sometimes people are so
out of touch with their own emotional that that impulse
of dynamic comes out to. What we want to do
is try to bring people conscious even anger work in
this situation, because we could call it impulse control, we
could call it, you know, needing some anger work. It's
(05:12):
difficult to know. What we know is we want someone
to become conscious that they're having an emotion and that
they had emotion is now be regulated, and that they're
going to lead to some type of behavior that's going
to get them and somebody else in trouble. Consequence, something
negative is going to come from it. So what we
want to teach everyone is how to be conscious of
(05:32):
what's going on in our minds, bodies, and spirits and
what to do with it. I have patients every day
that we literally have a toolkit list. It's written down,
we go through it. People become very astute knowing what
their tools are and their toolkit. We call it resourcing.
And unless you know that and are taught that and
(05:52):
it's practiced again and again and again, we can talk
about it quickly, we can talk about it, you know,
on an Instagram. It does show up when you're under dress.
And so it's one of the things that we need
to help people to understand is you need your toolkit
learned when you're not under dress, because when you're under dress,
that's when you will forget it unless it's well learned
(06:14):
in advance of that. So one of the things we
would do is really work on building a toolkit that's
supportive of emotional dynamics hogative dynamics that then lead to
choices that really don't serve her and or anyone else.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I heard a phrase yesterday I never heard before called
rage bait, and I said, hm, I guess that's what
that is. And when somebody throws something out there to
try to get your goat, you know, or try to
get at you. And I have learned very recently, and
I mean very recently, at age fifty eight, to no
longer take the rage bait in a conversation, let it go,
(06:53):
don't act impulsively, don't get into an argument, think about
it for a few hours if I have to steal
over it, and by then it sort of dissipates a
little bit. Am I growing up?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Oh, I'm so proud of you. You are, You're growing up.
And remember, rage bait is a great little term. We
have all sorts of terms out there. The reality is
many people don't even understand themselves that they're quote unquote
rage baiting. They don't even understand themselves what they're doing.
It's ego involved, it's not being conscious. There's all sorts
(07:27):
of dynamics there. And that being said, you are in
control of your own thoughts, feelings and actions. One of
the things I say all the time is, you know,
bless me to change myself, not my circumstance. Because I
am in control of what I do next. Now, that
doesn't mean the circumstance doesn't impact me. It can, and
it does, all the more reason to go back and
(07:49):
have that toolkit available to you. Whether it's rage bait,
whether it's someone on the other end being just not
kind or loving, whether it's someone who themselves is really impulsive,
hard to know with any kind of malice. We want
to make sure that we have some sense of grounding
and some sense of purpose, and that we know what
we can choose to do out of our toolkit. What's
(08:11):
in your toolkit? That's the question today.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
A good old passive aggressive approach. Sometimes you have to
notice too very quickly that woman's going to jail for
fourteen days. This mother, if you had a chance to
prep her for that experience, what advice would you give her?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
You know, I have worked with a couple of folks
actually in jail. I've actually been to the jails, to
the prisons and worked with folks right in there doing
some therapy dynamics, the same dynamic. What's in your toolkit?
How do you modulate yourself? As well as what's the goal?
How do you get through this? What's your day to
day momentum. One of the things I worked with a
woman on who was actually in jail, was just trying
(08:51):
to maintain her own space.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Happy birthday to doctor Heather Zach, a superstar of this program.
In East Lansing.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
People can have access to quality medical care without affordable
health insurance. At Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, we
understand increasing health insurance costs are becoming more of a
strain on the budgets of the businesses and people we serve.
Affordability matters. It affects real families, real decisions, and real care.
That's why at Blue Cross were dedicated to finding solutions
(09:22):
to learn about this critical issue and our efforts to
make healthcare affordable for all. VISITMI bluedeli dot com slash
affordability today.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Whether they're dough boys, comets, or even gremlins. Every public
school in Michigan is proud to be known for something,
and the Michigan Lottery is proud to be known for
something too.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Education.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
One hundred percent of lottery profits go to support public schools.
With the help of players across our grade state, the
lottery provided over one billion dollars to the state School
Lake Fund for the seventh straight year. So whatever hometown
school you're from, the Michigan Lottery is rooting for all
of them. Michigan Lottery for Fun for Schools. Knowing your
limits is always the best bat PA.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Dean Transportation is looking for compassionate people to join our
team of school bus drivers and attendants. Visit deanjobs dot
com to see all openings. Dean Transportation provides paid training
to obtain a commercial driver's license, increased starting pay, comprehensive benefits,
and flexible schedules with no weekend shifts, no experience needed.
(10:22):
Apply today at Dean jobs dot com and train for
back to school season. That's da n jobs dot com.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Change is bright. It's a clean energy future fueled by
fields of solar. It's led lighting in every home, and
Consumers Energy is making it happen with their industry leading
clean energy plan. This year, They're going all in on
their commitment to protecting the planet while serving nearly seven
(10:52):
million Michigan neighbors. Learn more and join the movement at
Consumers Energy dot com. Slash clean Energy
Pres officials.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Not a moment too soon either. There has been work
being done at Amway Stadium and Grand Rapids. One pounds
of steel have been erected there. The company construction company Rockford,
(00:33):
hit the milestone recently and the president and CEO, Shane
Napper says that makes up almost one third of the
steel that'll be installed. It's going to open next year
in the spring on an eight acre site along US
one thirty one near Pearl Street, and they'll be the
home of AC Grand Rapids Major League Soccer in the
(00:54):
next Pro League. Congratulations to them. And by the way,
I mentioned Oakland University a little while ago. The first
round of students pursuing their Physician Assistant master's degree now
in session in Rochester. The program prepares students to diagnose, treat,
and manage patients under the supervision of a doctor. It's
twenty eight month program and involves classroom work and clinical work,
(01:18):
and the Associate professor, Constance Burke, says the program is
a reflection of the school's commitment to providing quality education
next generation of health professionals. Very interesting physician's assistant because
sometimes when you can't get to a doctor quickly, they
can handle what you might be looking for. We appreciate
(01:38):
that very much, and we look forward to talking to
Oakland University about this program in the coming days and
maybe even Constance Burke, a mom is being ordered to
take impulse control classes. What happened and why Well, she
pleaded guilty to making a fake bomb threat against McCombe
(02:00):
County High School. Crystal Royster made two threats against Lake
Shore High School and shaint Clair Shores after her daughter
wasn't allowed to participate in the school play. This was
in March twenty twenty five. The school stopped her daughter
from participating due to illness. Royster sentenced to eighteen months
(02:21):
of probation and fourteen days in jail. Doctor Heather Zax,
psychologist from East Lansing, is on our radio stage our
AT and T line right this very moment. Happy New
Year to you and thank you for being available.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Happy New Year, Happy Happy New Year. You're a mom.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I know I think you can understand how a mother
bear can be protective of her child. But that's going
a bit far, isn't it. What would you say about
this case if she were sitting in front of you, Well,
I would.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Hope that she would come on her own volition, and
that's one of the channel and just in this situation
is a lot of times people come, but they come
because then they're assigned to come, or it's part of
some kind of probationary dynamic. And so one of the
first things we want to do is try to get
people in while they still have choice. And one of
(03:16):
the things I say to people all the time is
when you lose your choice to come, you also lose
some element of capacity to grow from the experience. Right,
So ideally somebody would come in and advance. Hay, I'm
really struggling and frustrated Mama Bear's coming out. How do
I handle this? In this situation, even coming post can
be helpful because hopefully it would teach some good coping
(03:39):
skills for Mama Bear, impact and impulse and interesting. I'm
interested in the punishment of it, that it got to
the legal precedent to build some type of punishment for
her that went outside of something like a therapeutic dynamic.
The normal.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, I don't know, give us a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Of not.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Very yeah, well no, the fake bomb threat is bit much, but.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Normal.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
She knew not to actually make the bomb.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
So there's that.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
But when they if they said we're going to give
you an impulse control class and it's going to be
conducted by doctor Heather Zach, how how do you go
about impulse control teach us because we might need it.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well, you know, whomever said that was putting something out there,
trying to navigate doing something right. They wanted this woman
to do something. Whether it's impulse control, control or emotional regulation,
we can call it all sorts of names. But one
of the things that we would start with is what's
going on here right? What's going on in that protective
(04:50):
nature that then you would overstep a line that we
know is pretty definitively marked. And sometimes people are so
out of touch with their own emotional that that impulse
of dynamic comes out to. What we want to do
is try to bring people conscious even anger work in
this situation, because we could call it impulse control, we
could call it, you know, needing some anger work. It's
(05:12):
difficult to know. What we know is we want someone
to become conscious that they're having an emotion and that
they had emotion is now be regulated, and that they're
going to lead to some type of behavior that's going
to get them and somebody else in trouble. Consequence, something
negative is going to come from it. So what we
want to teach everyone is how to be conscious of
(05:32):
what's going on in our minds, bodies, and spirits and
what to do with it. I have patients every day
that we literally have a toolkit list. It's written down,
we go through it. People become very astute knowing what
their tools are and their toolkit. We call it resourcing.
And unless you know that and are taught that and
(05:52):
it's practiced again and again and again, we can talk
about it quickly, we can talk about it, you know,
on an Instagram. It does show up when you're under dress.
And so it's one of the things that we need
to help people to understand is you need your toolkit
learned when you're not under dress, because when you're under dress,
that's when you will forget it unless it's well learned
(06:14):
in advance of that. So one of the things we
would do is really work on building a toolkit that's
supportive of emotional dynamics hogative dynamics that then lead to
choices that really don't serve her and or anyone else.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I heard a phrase yesterday I never heard before called
rage bait, and I said, hm, I guess that's what
that is. And when somebody throws something out there to
try to get your goat, you know, or try to
get at you. And I have learned very recently, and
I mean very recently, at age fifty eight, to no
longer take the rage bait in a conversation, let it go,
(06:53):
don't act impulsively, don't get into an argument, think about
it for a few hours if I have to steal
over it, and by then it sort of dissipates a
little bit. Am I growing up?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Oh, I'm so proud of you. You are, You're growing up.
And remember, rage bait is a great little term. We
have all sorts of terms out there. The reality is
many people don't even understand themselves that they're quote unquote
rage baiting. They don't even understand themselves what they're doing.
It's ego involved, it's not being conscious. There's all sorts
(07:27):
of dynamics there. And that being said, you are in
control of your own thoughts, feelings and actions. One of
the things I say all the time is, you know,
bless me to change myself, not my circumstance. Because I
am in control of what I do next. Now, that
doesn't mean the circumstance doesn't impact me. It can, and
it does, all the more reason to go back and
(07:49):
have that toolkit available to you. Whether it's rage bait,
whether it's someone on the other end being just not
kind or loving, whether it's someone who themselves is really impulsive,
hard to know with any kind of malice. We want
to make sure that we have some sense of grounding
and some sense of purpose, and that we know what
we can choose to do out of our toolkit. What's
(08:11):
in your toolkit? That's the question today.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
A good old passive aggressive approach. Sometimes you have to
notice too very quickly that woman's going to jail for
fourteen days. This mother, if you had a chance to
prep her for that experience, what advice would you give her?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
You know, I have worked with a couple of folks
actually in jail. I've actually been to the jails, to
the prisons and worked with folks right in there doing
some therapy dynamics, the same dynamic. What's in your toolkit?
How do you modulate yourself? As well as what's the goal?
How do you get through this? What's your day to
day momentum. One of the things I worked with a
woman on who was actually in jail, was just trying
(08:51):
to maintain her own space.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Happy birthday to doctor Heather Zach, a superstar of this program.
In East Lansing.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
People can have access to quality medical care without affordable
health insurance. At Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, we
understand increasing health insurance costs are becoming more of a
strain on the budgets of the businesses and people we serve.
Affordability matters. It affects real families, real decisions, and real care.
That's why at Blue Cross were dedicated to finding solutions
(09:22):
to learn about this critical issue and our efforts to
make healthcare affordable for all. VISITMI bluedeli dot com slash
affordability today.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Whether they're dough boys, comets, or even gremlins. Every public
school in Michigan is proud to be known for something,
and the Michigan Lottery is proud to be known for
something too.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Education.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
One hundred percent of lottery profits go to support public schools.
With the help of players across our grade state, the
lottery provided over one billion dollars to the state School
Lake Fund for the seventh straight year. So whatever hometown
school you're from, the Michigan Lottery is rooting for all
of them. Michigan Lottery for Fun for Schools. Knowing your
limits is always the best bat PA.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Dean Transportation is looking for compassionate people to join our
team of school bus drivers and attendants. Visit deanjobs dot
com to see all openings. Dean Transportation provides paid training
to obtain a commercial driver's license, increased starting pay, comprehensive benefits,
and flexible schedules with no weekend shifts, no experience needed.
(10:22):
Apply today at Dean jobs dot com and train for
back to school season. That's da n jobs dot com.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Change is bright. It's a clean energy future fueled by
fields of solar. It's led lighting in every home, and
Consumers Energy is making it happen with their industry leading
clean energy plan. This year, They're going all in on
their commitment to protecting the planet while serving nearly seven
(10:52):
million Michigan neighbors. Learn more and join the movement at
Consumers Energy dot com. Slash clean Energy
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