August 5, 2025 • 55 mins
Reena Kumarasingham is a regression therapist, between-lives therapist, and trainer/supervisor for the Past Life Regression Academy. She is the author of “Shrouded Truth,” “Magdalene Lineage,” and “Divine Consciousness.” Over the last 8 years she has spearheaded the Pioneering the New Consciousness retreats.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Past lives are something most of us have heard of.
Many find this topic fascinating, Others even try past life
regression therapy. However, if we do have more than one life,
what occurs in the interval in between. Mission Evolution Radio
TV show is coming here around the world on the
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hour to explore what may go on between lives is
Rena kumar Ascamrina is a regression therapist, Between lives therapist
and trainer supervisor for the Past Life Regression Academy. She's
the author of Shrouded Truth, Magalin Lineage, and Divine Consciousness.
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Over the last eight years, she's spearheaded the pioneering the
New Consciousness retreats. Her website Rinacumarasingham dot com. Rina, thank
you so much for joining us on Mission Evolution.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Thank you so much for having me goil down. So
excited to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I am. I love your topic and it's just a
fascinating one. I don't know if we'll find any answers today,
but we'll give her a try.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Give it a shot, Give it a shot.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So how did you first become interested in past lives?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, I actually grew up a Hindu in Malaysia, so
as a Hindu, past lives for me was a way
of life. Was just a fact of life. You know,
ass is green sky's blue, past lives exist, and so
growing up with it, with it particularly being a way
of life, I was really fascinated by it. And when
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I used to go to my Hindu study classes, you know,
as a as a child, it's very similar to Katechism
for Christians. So you know, we had our Hindu child
study classes. We were always told that our lives right now,
our current life is like a snapshot, but the lives
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of our soul is like a movie. And so that's
basically how everything interlinks. And I found that really really interesting.
And then what I did was when I went to university,
I did my degree in psychology, and when I graduated
at the age of twenty one, I realized I didn't
have enough experience to be able to serve in this capacity.
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I didn't have enough knowledge, enough wisdom. And then what
I did was I did a master's in business administration
and I entered the corporate world in Asia in the
media industry for about twelve years, and then I got
really bored with doing public relations in the media industry.
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And when I spoke to my public relations mentor, he said, Rena,
if you're bored doing public relations in the media industry,
you're better off just getting out of public relations altogether.
And he was right, because the media industry is really
fast paced. Everything else is not as fast paced as
the media industry. And so then I decided to sort
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of wet my toes again to see if I wanted
to go back into the psychological counseling arena. And I
did a quick weekend course and then ILPA realized I
loved it, like I really wanted to go back into it.
And then there was a gentleman who was advertising a
past life regression training course in Singapore called Andy Tomlinson,
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and so I was really enthralled by it because he
combined modern psychotherapeutic techniques with past life regression. So for me,
that was the perfect marriage, no pun intended. And so
I did the course and then Andy took my money
and then married me. And then he so we have
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you know, he still owes me. I tell him this
and then and then he basically because I used to
live in Singapore in the tropical weather, he just brought
me to the UK weather you know place, and this
is where I've been ever since.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Pretty fascinating. So I understand you had a near death experience.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I did.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Would you go into that for us a little bit?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Of course. It was in twenty twenty in March, at
the end of March, and I remember this date so
clearly because it was my father's birthday, the twenty seventh
of March, and I had a release coming out as well.
But I was in bed and I thought I had
a burnout. But as a few days progressed, I think
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five days progressed, I realized that I actually had COVID.
And this was at the early stages of COVID, where
not very many people knew what was happening. People were
going into hospitals. The only thing you heard in the
news and the media, were you get COVID. COVID equals
to death, really, And I knew I had COVID because
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I felt two metal bands around my lung, the top
part of my lung and the bottom part of my
lung just squeezing me. And I found it very, very
difficult to breathe, and I was extremely fatigued. I couldn't
get out of bed. And so I mean it was
good because this is how Andy, Andy who is my husband,
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took really amazing care of me, because for sixty days,
actually I couldn't get out of bed. And so there
was a time when I and during the early days
when I said to Andy, I said, I really don't
want to go to the hospital because what you heard
where people went into the hospital, they were intubated, they
were isolated, there were no windows, fluorescent lights. It wasn't
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something I wanted to experience. And I said, you know,
whatever happens, is it okay if I just stayed at home.
And he was very kind and very sweet, and he
said yes, and so he took on the burden of
actually taking care of me. And I remember this so
clearly because there were a few times I couldn't breathe
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between the twenty seventh of March and the tenth of April,
and every time I thought I was going to die
because I couldn't breathe, I actually had a panic attack.
And on the tenth of April, it was night and Andy,
actually it was about ten o'clock, and Andy came to wish
me good night, took our little doggies, went to his room,
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and I reached over and I turned off the light.
And as my eyes closed, I had a very strong
knowing that if my eyes closed now, I wouldn't open
them ever again. And with this knowing came an incredible
sense of peace. It was as though another part of
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my body took over, you know, almost like my soul
took over. But there was one part of what I
would refer to as the ego consciousness that sort of went,
you know, I have to observe this. And the minute
I closed my eyes, I saw five light beings at
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the foot of my bed, and they they do you know,
you know, you know a Bunsen burner, you know how
the flames of the Bunsen burner that, yeah, so they
were basically like the color of the flames of the
Bunsen burner, and they talked to me about my current life,
and we were reviewing my childhood, which is where most
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of my wounding occurred. And they did a lot of
healing with that. And then they said, okay, well it's
time to go, and I was like, okay, this is
really happening. And I felt like I was pulled into
a different space, an expansive space, but it felt like
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I was pulled like I was caught in an ocean riptide.
I had zero control over any you know, I couldn't
control anything. And as I was being pulled, all my
concerns fell away. Everything that I thought was really important,
like numbers, you know, work matters, bills, you know, things
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that I thought was so important in my living world.
All these things just fell away. And I just felt
so free and so expansive, and I just thought to myself, woh,
you know, this is the most beautiful, peaceful experience. And
but you know, as I was going as well, there
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was the observer part that just went, this monumental thing
is happening to you, and nobody knows, not even Andy knew.
And then I was then the beings of light basically
showed me the earth and showed like what looked like
a grid of plumes of gray smoke around the earth,
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and the Beings of Light asked me, why do you
strangle yourselves? You know, why do you suffocate yourselves, you know,
with these plumes of smoke. And at that point I thought, well,
maybe this had some reference to COVID, because everyone was
you know, COVID meant you couldn't breathe. And then it
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was time. They said, okay, well it's time for us
to go now. But the one thing that was holding
me back was Andy, because he was taking such wonderful
care of me. I wanted to I couldn't bear for
him to come down in the morning and see my
lifeless body there and you know, perhaps feel guilt or
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the should have would have. I couldn't bear that, and
so I actually negotiated with the Beings of Light and
I said, is it okay if I have ten minutes,
I just want to pop back, write a note to Andy,
you know, saying you know, I love you, It is
my time to go. This is not your fault, you know,
and all that. And they basically said, no, you either
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come with us or you go back, and you know,
it was a really hard choice to make because going
into that expansive place of so much freedom and so
much beece, It's something I've never experienced before. It was
so tempting. But again that part of me that wanted
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to for Andy to be okay with all this, you know,
sort of one and then I came well, then I
blacked out. Actually, so I don't know what happened then,
but when I opened my eyes, I turned the light on,
and it was about two am. And then I just
basically stayed in bed and I was just processing the
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whole thing.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
It certainly is life changing. It's funny we have to
die to have something with life changing, but exactly changing,
isn't it. Yeah, it puts everything into perspective. So when
we're talking about past lives, how can you be sure
that past lives aren't just metaphorical Because a lot of
the things that we experience, just even in your past life,
I mean, in your near death experience, are metaphors to
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make sense to the mind of what's going on at
the quantum level or in the spiritual realm. How can
you be sure that past lives aren't just metaphorical?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Well, I think if we we have to go into
the the neurophysiology of the brain. If if something is
metaphorical or if we're making something up, there is a
different part of the brain that lights up, which is
the prefrontal you know, the frontal cortex. If we are
actually remembering something, it comes more from our hippocampus, and
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that's where emotions come through, very very strong emotions. So,
as a past life aggression therapist, when we are working
with past lives, what actually happens is if there is
a spontaneous cathosis, and that's what we do as past
life therapists. We do healing work is to is to
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allow these emotions to come up so that we can
move forward in our life in a reframed mindset. You know,
it's sort of taking away all these challenges in a
reframed mindset. And if there's a really strong emotional release,
then we know that more likely than not that it
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is a real it is a real memory. They're accessing
a real memory. And so an example I can give
you with this is I'm sorry, have you got a
pet I have to ask you this question?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Well, I do, but we're just about ready to go
into a station break, so we're going to have to
pick up on pets on the other side, Na Breena
and I will return very shortly, so don't you go away.
This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission evolution dot org.
If I had a past life, why can't I remember it?
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With this? Cis our discussing past lives. Is Rina Kumeriscam,
the author of Shrouded Truth, Magdalen Lennage and Define Consciousness
her website Renau dot com. Rina, we were talking about
past life how you can tell if you're actually looking
at a past life versus a metaphor, And you said,
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emotion is the key? Is that because the part of
the brain that emotion comes from.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yes, because it's very close the amygdala, where the emotion
is is very very close within the hippocampus, very very
close to where our memories are processed and kept. So
that's why that's how we know. That's a huge indicator
that it is a real memory versus something that is
made up. So, you know, I was talking about pets,
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So you know you did tell me you had a pet.
If you were talking to a friend, for example, and
that friend mentions to you that their pet had passed away.
If you had your own pet that's passed away, you
would immediately tap into that memory of your own pet
passing away, and you would feel really deeply and empathize
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with your friend. And that's because it's tapped into the
emotion and therefore the memory. But if you say, didn't
have a pet, and your friend was telling you your pet,
you know, her pet had passed away, then you would
you wouldn't feel quite as deeply. You would sympathize with
her ands say you know, look, I'm really sorry. You know,
what can I do to help you or whatever? You know,
Let's go have coffee. But you couldn't feel it. You
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couldn't feel what your your your friend is feeling. And
that's how we know.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
So there's there's another little issue here. There's past life
memory and there's genetic memory. How can you tell one
of those from the other.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
The way we tell is how we actually regress through
the timelines. So, for example, if we have if you're
I'm just gonna if if we can track your past
life through a horizontal access right, which is the journey
of your soul, the movie of your soul, and then
you've got your ancestral access that goes down this way
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and you are right where the two lines meet. Yes,
And the way we can the way we actually manage
the process is, you know, with past lives, you know,
we just say, just go to a memory where you
know that that reminds you of this. But when when
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we're actually tapping into the ancestral line, it's a different
way of navigating the past life. We have to have
to go through the different memories of the different ancestors
to get to the source ancestor.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
So it's pretty clear that you're going through memories of
ancestors versus memories of a person's past life.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, as opposed to the linear memory of a person's
past life.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
So why do we forget our past lives?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Well, if we look at the between life states here,
we forget our past lives because we actually come into
life to learn lessons, and if we already know a
lot of our past lives, it is very, very difficult
to learn those lessons. It's almost like knowing the answers
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to your test before actually taking the test.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I have a question. A lot of people mention that
we're here to learn lessons, but how do we know
we're here to learn lessons. Whose idea was that, oh.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
In between life sessions? The idea actually comes from us,
the souls. We choose to come here.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Okay, so you figured that out by going into between
life regression, Yes, we do. So do we get to
read the small print?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Or it's really interesting because in between life sessions, the
between life sessions will actually be blocked. And we've actually
experienced this if the person hasn't gone through their test
yet or if they're in the middle of a big
karmic drama, as it were, a big karmic lesson. So,
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for example, if someone is in the middle of going
through a divorce, they can't experience it between lives because,
for example, say that divorce is part of their lesson,
But after the divorce, then they can come for a
between lives and then they can actually get higher perspective
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spiritual perspective as to why that divorce happens, and that
would then minimize the emotional negative impact on that person
moving forward.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
So it would seem we have plenty of healing needed
from this lifetime. What's the advantage of going into past life?
I mean, is it just kind of spiritual avoidance?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I wouldn't say so much. It's avoidance. I think it's
almost like peeling an onion. So when we actually do
past life regression therapy, we're actually doing trauma work, and
when we go back to past lives that is the
source of a particular trauma we are going through. At
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the moment, it's almost like there's a disassociative state, like
we're this is like it's in the past, do you
know what I mean? The person goes through it, the
psyche goes through it because they know it's safe. It's
happened in the past there, and the psyche knows that
the person is sitting on the couch right now and
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they're fine. Does that make sense to you? So people
go through the past life to sort of peel the
layers of the onion to get to the point in
the current life of what they're going through, and then
it's so much easier and safer for the client to
go through that particular challenge.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
So if a client is going through some I'm trying
to figure out how you target this. So if a
client comes to you for past life aggression, do you
follow in through what's up in their lives right now,
or do you just kind of go back and see
whatever shows up.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
No, I mean, so there are two ways we can
do past life regression. I mean what the first way
is what I call past life tourism, and this is
where someone just wants to come and explore different past
lives and there's you know, you just explore. It's like
you know, getting on a plane and having a high
level overview of different past lives. But when we work
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with regression therapy, we actually are doing sort of trauma healing,
and this is where we actually go back to the
source of the trauma that the person is facing right now.
The other thing as well is you know when we
forget and we come back, you know when we come
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when we are incarnate and we forget what our lesson is.
Sometimes those traumas are not resolved in the past life.
So what happens is they bring back the lesson in
the current life. And so what we do is we
take them back to the past life where it's safer
for the psyche to be able to confront the trauma
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and resolve it, and then bring it forward to the
current life confront the present trauma, heal it, and get
spiritual perspective like a wider spiritual perspective, the video perspective
of why this has happened to them. So it's basically
like a full picture of the soul.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
So we're running along in our day to day life
and you know, various times something will happen, it will
trigger us into this life. But past experience, past trauma,
does the same thing happen with past life. You're running
along in this ordinary reality life and all of a
sudden you're triggered. There's nothing it hooks to in this lifetime.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, there are some if you actually look at some
of doctor Ian Stevenson's work. He is a renowned psychologist.
I think he's from the US, and he is quite
famous for looking at children's past lives, spontaneous past lives
that have popped up and he's actually gone and he's
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done the research and he's found out that the details
that the child remembers actually does all tie in when
he's gone, you know, and sort of looked at to
see if everything correlates historical facts. Historical facts. Yeah, So
for example, there was a child in Thailand who who
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was born with a birthmarks, you know, around the face,
and this child spontaneously started to talk about how he
was shot in the face. And when Professor Ian Stevenson,
when he heard this, he actually went to Thailand, interviewed
the child, interviewed the family, and then he got the
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details from the child and then went and investigated all
these different details and he realized that yes, there was
actually this person by this name who was shot by
you know so and so, and that's how that soul
died and then came back with a memory, you know,
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of a birthmark.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I've heard of children being having more access to past
lives than we have as adults. Why does that fade.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Because when we actually tap, you know, therapeutically, when we
tap into past lives. It's easier to tap into past
lives under a hypnosis. So your brainwave is on the
alpha brainwave. I think it's the alpha. But when you know,
and the when children are really young, they have that
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similar brainwave until they grow up, and the more they
grow up, their brainwave, our brain waves actually change. And
also when children are born, children are very pure, they're
not conditioned by different things. So that's why the memories
are sitting right on the surface. And the fact of
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the matter is, you know, there are so many children
who will spontaneously talk about memories, but a lot of
parents sort of push it aside. Maybe they might attribute
it to imagination, you know, for example, or he's got
an invisible friend, or you know something, but it could
very well be past life memories that come up.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I think children are sharper than we give them credit.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
For, much sharper.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
So how can a person tell, if you know, really
they need past life regression. How can you tell you
need past life regression versus therapy for the present life.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
I think the thing is if you if you are approaching,
if you need a wider spiritual perspective for a challenge
you're going through, and if you can relate to the
fact that our lives are a movie and not just
a snapshot of our current life, then that's when you
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would look for someone who would do regression therapy.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
So is it like the emotions and the trauma that
you're experiencing in the present don't really add up to
the trauma that you've had in this lifetime?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
So can you say that again?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Is it like the emotions and the trauma that you're
experiencing in the present don't add up to the trauma
that you've experienced this particular lifetime.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, no, that could be Yeah, that could be a
factor as well. But I think if the thing that
people the reason why people want to come for past
life regression therapy is for that wider spiritual perspective.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I've heard of a lot of people saying, oh, I
was I was you know, jab at the hut or
whatever in the past lifetime, right, usually something glamorous. And
yet I've heard enough people you know, isis I was?
Isis in a past lifetime? How many isises were there?
What's going on there? I've heard a lot of people
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say the same same character.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah. So I mean this is a really good question
because in my practice, and in a lot of regression
therapists practice, you know, we see about, you know, thousands
of clients and we probably get one glamorous lifestyle. That
the reason why this has talked about is because there
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are records out there that they can correlate with their accounts.
But a lot of people when they come to us,
the peasants, so for example, ditch diggers for example, and
in those days, ditch diggers didn't have maybe even birth records,
so they can't go back and they cannot correlate the stories.
You know, their their accounts, the ditchtiggers or the peasants,
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they can't correlate it. Or they were a soldier somewhere.
And if they can't recall their name because when they
come for healing, we don't ask for facts like names.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Well, I'm sorry, We're going to help her to take
another station break, Rina and I will be right back
to continue our discussion, So please stay right there. This
is Mission Evolution, Mission evolution dot org. If we have
more than one life, what do we do between them?
This is Mission Evolution, Mission evolution dot org. With this
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discussing between lives is Rena Cumaressingham her website, Rina Cumaressingam
dot com. Rina, what is between life therapy?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
So between lives is basically if you look at that
line again that you know the past life and then
this is your ancestral line. Between lives is what happens
between your last past life and your current life. And
in this between life space is what happens here normally
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is where we find out why we have planned to
come to be reincarnated in the current life, What was
the plan, what were the soul contracts? Why did we
choose the mother that we chose, the husband that we chose,
the father that we chose, and also we get a
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brief review of the immediate past life so that we
can see the link between that past life and the
current life and how the whole story ties together.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
So what is between life spiritual regression?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Between life spiritual regression is a process that is based
on doctor Michael Newton's work. He called it life between
lives regression, and our academy we call it between life
spiritual regression. And it's a process that therapist can use
to take people into this between life space.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
So, when we're getting ready to come back, okay from
the between life place and we've kind of made this plan,
are we drawn to a specific genetic line in order
to find a resonance with what we've come to do?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
It could be. It differs for different people. Some people
find that genetic line, but in most cases there is
something that we refer to as a soul group, and
so it's not so much a physiological genetic line, but
a soul family, as it were. And within the soul family,
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they can pick and choose who is going who they're
going to have different soul contracts.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
For to.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Basically go through the lesson that they choose to go through.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Okay, so you gave this example of this is our life,
past life, future life or whatever, and this is our
genetic memory and genetic line, and where the two cross is,
where the person is, where they encarnate. So with that
being the case, don't we have to be a line
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carries so much memory and so much resonance with different things.
Isn't it important that we choose a line that resonates
with our mission this time?
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Of course it is, But people don't sort of in
our experience within the practice, people don't purposely choose a
particular genetic line. You know. It's more it's almost like
some people choose a body, like a physical body, they
choose where they're born. They can choose different souls to
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come down as a soul, you know, uh, in terms
of contracts, but there's never a discussion about, uh, the
genealogy and the ancestral flow or the ancestral curse that
comes through. However, I would say that if a particular
genetic line is significant, so if you're a generational you know,
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trauma breaker or you know, which is very much in
line with your life lesson, then you would that that
would factor into your plan, but it's never explicitly discussed
during a session.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Interesting, so when you're talking about generational trauma breaker, So
in that case, the person comes into whatever family line
is carrying the trauma that they would like to break
this time.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yes, but it also could be that the soul family
that they've had made these contracts with have also incarnated
within this line. Because at the end of the day,
it doesn't matter, you know, it is about the lesson
that the soul is learning by being a trauma breaker,
a generational trauma breakers. It could affect the generation, you know,
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the particular line, it could affect them, but again it's
going to affect the individual souls and their particular lessons
as they come down.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
You know, it's pretty hard to not notice that this
is a pretty traumatic time in our history. There's a
lot going on, you know, as we enter the age
of Aquarius, there's a lot of frequency shifts, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. How do you see that impacting
past life regression and the people that are here. Do
you see a lot of people that are coming to
break the patterns here and now.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Yep, I see this especially actually not so much in
past lives, but I see it in between live sessions.
It's really interesting because before this time, a lot of
people when they come, they talk about their own significant
life lessons. You know, they want to learn more about love,
they want to learn more about you know, boundaries, they
want to learn more about you know, it's just it's
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life lessons. But now we're getting a lot more souls
coming down because they are on a mission, and their
mission is to help with the shift of the planet.
And it's also very interesting because a lot of these
souls that are coming down, their vibration is very is
very different. It's almost like they're either vibrating at a
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high vibration to help raise the vibration of the planet,
and they are finding it very difficult to assimilate in
the Earth's vibration, if that makes sense, because it, yeah,
it's not in resonance. And so when they actually come
for between lives and they find out what their mission is,
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which is their reason for being, then it's interesting how
these challenges and all these traumatic thoughts or you know,
these these ideations disappear because now they've got a focus,
they've got a reason for being and then they can
help with that shift.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
So we've been talking at least say so, we've been
talking about past lives on the planet, these ones that
come in with the mission, and some other ones. Do
they come from someplace else?
Speaker 3 (34:38):
They come We call them non human resonance souls, so
it to us. We don't specifically say exactly where they
are coming from. It's just that they're of a different
frequency and they are used to a completely different frequency
that is not of the Earth's frequency, and so they
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come to help with that that shift.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
And again, I've heard a lot of people say that
the Earth is kind of under the under the gun
right now and a lot of people are watching it.
He are, a lot of beings are watching what's going
on the planet right now. Have you seen any evidence
of that in between life therapies.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
We've seen a lot of evidence actually because just I
had a you know, it's so interesting. I had when
because I used to train people to actually conduct between
lives regression therapy and we had a student who went
back to a to her between lives and what she
does and her group does is they sort of monitor
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the vibration of the different planets at different points, and
she said that because, you know, during her session, she
said that because the you know, the the the Earth's
vibration is it's stuttering a little bit, so you know,
has come down to help with that, you know, to
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make it a bit more flowy as it were. And
so yeah, I mean we're finding it's fascinating. You know
when we get students that come down and or clients
come down and they talk about their mission, it's fascinating
how it is they are here to help with the shift.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
How can a person tell if they're one of the
ones with the mission.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Well, you can't tell it consciously. You will find out
about it. It emerges organically during a session.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
But does a person tend to have little markers like
they're driven or they're yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Yeah, If there are markers, then there's a knowing. There's
also a sense of not belonging because the vibration is
very different, and because of that, they feel a bit
isolated and they feel alone, but there is a very
strong knowing that they are here for a reason. Now
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a lot of people may not understand, like they don't
consciously understand that, and so the isolation and the not
belonging sort of overwhelms them. Does that make sense? Yeah?
But and I can't say all of them follow one
specific path because they are sort of you know, everyone's
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seeded in different paths, like different parts of the world,
like what people do. So for example, not everyone seated
in the spiritual path. You know, you get people who
are seated in politics or health. So yeah, but there
is a very strong mission and also they can see
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something new. They are breakers of the old.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
We certainly need some system breakers right now now. Ye,
So if you're contemplating having past life or between life therapy,
how does a person know which one to ask for.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Normally, people who come for a past life therapy there
they want to work on a particular challenge, so they
either have unexplainable pain or an unexplainable emotion, or they're
going through something quite rough at this time, and that's
when they come for past life progression therapy. Someone who
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comes for between life therapy, in my experience, they are
actually called to it, so they actually get a sense
that they need the between lives therapy, and then they
contact us. It's almost like their spirit guides are going,
you know, I think you need this and then you
know and and give, and they give them a tap
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for them to actually come for a between life session.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Maybe maybe they come to what was I thinking when
I signed up for this?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
At A lot of us do that. Yeah, it's almost
like saying, well, you know, I'm going to climb Mount
Himalayas right now, the Himalaya mountains with no training.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah. They just jump you in here, make you forget everything,
and you're on your own right exactly.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Also, you think you was a little rough.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
So when we're in human form, our understanding of spirit
can be very limited. How can you be sure you're
interpreting what's happening between lives accurately?
Speaker 3 (39:32):
When we go into the between live sessions, we actually
put our clients in a very very deep hypnotic state,
and we use hypnotic techniques to keep them in that state.
And it's almost like getting into that that brain wave
of a child where it's very very pure. And so
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people are when they in that session, when they're communicating
to us, you can tell if it's something that's coming organically,
and you can tell when the questioning mind, the rational mind,
gets involved. And the minute the rational mind gets involved,
we immediately drop them back down into that deep hypnotic state,
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and then the story sort of shifts, not the story ships,
but the way that it's being communicated shifts. That that
rational mind has gone, you know, has been put aside
for a bit. So that's how we can tell.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
So the rational mind tries to interpret the information based
on our lifetime this time, and so when you're in
a deep state, it probably comes through more metaphorically.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Yeah, it comes through from a memory versus the rational mind,
the conscious mind. It comes from the subconscious mind. Yeah,
And we tape. We actually encourage, you know, our students
to tape all the between live sessions, and so that's
when the clients can go back, listen to it and
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then sort of think about it and process it because, yeah,
because it comes the information comes in layers.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
So sometimes it's time for us to take into the
station break. Please stay with This is Reena and I
continue to explore near death, past lives, and between lives.
This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission evolution dot org.
How can knowing what goes on between lives help us? Now?
This is Mission Evolution, Mission Evolution dot org. We're continuing
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our discussion with Rena Cumarassingum her website Renacumarossingum dot com. Rina,
you know, it seems, I don't want to say far fetched,
but quite distant from our ordinary day to day reality
to consider past lives and between lives and that sort
of thing. How can we tell that that's where we
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need to go and if we go there, how does
it help us? Now?
Speaker 3 (42:07):
So with so, there are two different reasons why people
will come for past lives. A lot of people are
drawn to doing past life regressions because there are they
want to know the bigger picture of their soul story.
They're you know, they don't want to know the little
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snapshot of their current life. They want to know the movie.
And also they get a sense or that they want
to know more about past lives or like I said,
if they have an unexplainable pain or a chat like,
for example, a really strange phobia that they can't explain
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in this particular lifetime, so that's when they can come
for a past life progression therapy session. A lot of
people can be quite curious and they want to have
past live tourism. Then they can go for that as well.
And that's just like I said, the airplane view of
you know, different lives, past lives that they can explore.
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People come for a between live session because they are
at a crossroads in their lives and they wish to
know what's next for them. Are they going through their
have they you know in terms of their sole plan?
You know, are they actually meeting the goals of their
soul plan? Are they on track to meet the goals
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of their soul plan? You know, if people get a
sense that there is a mission, then they come to
find out. Well, they don't actually communicate that, you know,
we've got a mission, but they feel a bit lost
in their lives and they want to find out like
what's next for them. They actually come to us and
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that's when normally a mission would come out quite spontaneously
and organically during the session for them.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
So how do between lives differ from lifetime to lifetime?
Speaker 3 (44:05):
So the between life process remains the same, the content
is different because people go through lifetimes to learn different
lessons and so the planning to go into the different
lifetimes will change. So the reason for being will change,
the soul contracts will change, The souls that they choose
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to have the contracts with will change. You know, sometimes
some people they shipped missions as well. Like for example,
I had a client who came to me for a
session because you know, she was she she'd run a business,
a very lucrative business. She sold the business, and then
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she wanted to know what was next. And so when
we did her between life session, we found out that
her last past life, she was a minor, a call
my and she actually died when she was underground. And
so what so when we actually went to the between
live state, because that's how we actually go into the
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between live state, we go to your last past life,
that's the takeoff point and then we go into between us. Okay,
so that's that's a bit of technicality. So when we
then went into the between live state, we found out
that during the planning, one of her her her soul mission,
like her bigger mission, was to basically construct different planets,
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and so you know, for a few lives, she actually
was looking at land. So you know, that's why her
last past life she was actually a minor, but she
was you know, sort of collecting information about the Earth
and the geology of the Earth. And so now she's
actually changed her mission in this life and she has
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to look you know, she's looking at organisms on the planet,
and so her path was to basically look at animals
in the current life. And then you know, obviously she
will go through a few lives looking at animals and
that all that knowledge and information will sort of moves
into her mission of constructing planets.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
So you said that you go into a past life, okay,
to ask access to between lives. So how many past
lives back can you go to get access to between
life between those lives and how important is that?
Speaker 3 (46:38):
We say that the most important one to go to
is the last past life because you want to know
about your plan for your current life, because this is
the life that's most relevant, and therefore the information from
the between lives that's most relevant to that is your
your your you know, the one just before your current life.
(47:01):
If people want to explore it some more, you know,
they can go back to different past lives to access
the different between life state. And I know very few
people who do that, and they do that more for
knowledge gathering and not so much for a shift shifting
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their lives or changing their lives or changing their perspective
of their lives moving forward.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
So if we go and we look at past lives.
We're going into the past in a way. Does doing
that change our future?
Speaker 3 (47:41):
No, because what we are doing when we go and
look at the past is we are trying to get
information about why we are having the current challenge that
we are having. If it is going to change the future,
it would be us making choice to maybe shift that
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particular challenge. So, for example, you know, if we've had
a few lifetimes of being scared of spiders, you know,
for for whatever reason, and I'm trying to pick a
very light phobiable. You know, if we can overcome the
fear of spiders in this particular life, then there will
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be a next lesson or a next mission in your
future lives. But if we don't overcome this fear of
spiders in the current life, even if we go and
explore the past lives because you know, it's too much
or it's too deep, then there is an option to
then bring that fear in the future lives. Should we
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choose to do that.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Well, it sounds like we do change the future then
simply by our choices.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Yes we do.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Yeah, So tell us a little about your research in
near death experience, between life and near death spirits yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
So, because I had my own near death experience, and
I had my own between lives spiritual regression, and I
used to train people to do the between lives, I
realized that there were very there were similarities in the
stages of my near death experience and the you know,
some of the first few stages of the between lives,
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so you know, the the light beings coming down, that
there's that that conversation about the life, you know, the
the you know about my childhood wounding that happens in
the between lives as well. There is also the pulling,
you know, how we move from the body to a
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different space. So the between lives, though, continues on with
the meeting of the soul groups and the planning for
the next life. Now, had I gone through that, then
it would have been a death experience, not a near
death exsp sperience. So we just so, I basically and
I said to Andy, I said, isn't this interesting how
these stages are very similar to the between life stages.
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And I was curious to know whether it was because
I was filtering it through my own brain, and you know,
I was quite well versed in the between life stages.
And so we looked for books, and there were, you know,
no research out there about it, and so what Andy
and I decided to do, you know, at first it
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was more for ourselves, was to look at the near
death experience accounts and between life aggression accounts to see
if these similarities were universal or if it was just
for me. So we looked at about five hundred case
studies of between life accounts, and we looked at about
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four hundred ish case studies of near death experiences that
were collected by near death experienced pioneers like you know,
doctor Pinman Lomo and doctor Bruce Grayson and doctor Peter Fennick.
And we actually found that there was a very very
strong correlation in these stages in the between lives regression
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and the near death experience. So we found that very interesting.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Yeah, so you speak of the new consciousness, what do
you mean by that?
Speaker 3 (51:22):
Oh, it's it's what we were talking about before, about
the shift of the planet. You know, it's almost like moving,
like you said, we're moving into the age of Aquarius.
But if you actually also look at the Vedic astrology,
the Vedic astrology says that we are actually now moving
from the Kali Yuga which is the Dark Ages, and
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we are actually ascending, you know, as a as a
as a collective consciousness, we're ascending.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
Some of the some Vedic astrologers say we're going into
the Satya Yuga, which is the Golden Age. Some say
that we're going to the the Iron Age. But there
is that ascending and the timeline between us going to
the you know, the Western astrology of us moving into
the Age of Aquarius and the Vedic astrology actually correlates.
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So there is this enormous shift in consciousness. And the
way I would explain that is that the earth is
just vibrating. It's vibrating so quickly. It's almost like we
take a rug and you know, like a dirty rug
on the floor and we're just agitating it with the vibration.
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And with that agitation, you know, a lot of dust
will come out. We see things under the carpet, you know,
maybe like some some some some bugs, some dead bugs,
or you know, a coins.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
It's that time. We're just about out of time. And
I would be if I didn't ask you, what is
your mission?
Speaker 3 (52:52):
What's my mission?
Speaker 2 (52:53):
What's your mission?
Speaker 3 (52:55):
Do you know? After my near death experience, my mission
is to be in peace, to be in peace in
whatever situation there is, because I dropped all my worries,
remember and you know, everything that I thought was so important,
and I just want to stay in that place of
peace and freedom. And I would like to expand my
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own consciousness while in the body, to be in that
place of freedom and peace that I actually experienced when
I had my near death experience, because I feel we
don't need to go to the edge of life to
experience that, as it were. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (53:33):
It does. So when you all bet it's a moving target,
I mean, you have to constantly course correct. But when
you're in that state, do you how do you find
it affects the people around you.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
I find that it affects people differently because it also
depends on my vibration and what's affecting my piece. So,
you know, I've let a few people go and they,
you know, were not that impressed with that. They didn't
like that very much. And a lot more people have
come to me, you know, and we are in the
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same resonance and that we're trying to stay as much
as possible in that place of peace and expanded freedom.
Even the things that I do my work, you know,
like I'm pursuing a different sort of work now, you
know something that that that sort of impacts that piece
that you know.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah, it is time for us to call call the in.
So unfortunately we are out of time. But Rena, thank
you so much for coming on this show.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
Thank you so much for having me GUILDA. It's been
such a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
Been a real pleasure. Our guest is hour has been
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Therapists and the author of Shrouded Truth, Magdalene Lineage, and
Divine Consciousness. To find out more about Rena, where you
can find her books and all she has to offer,
visit her website, Rina Cumarossingham dot com. This has been
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Past lives are something most of us have heard of.
Many find this topic fascinating, Others even try past life
regression therapy. However, if we do have more than one life,
what occurs in the interval in between. Mission Evolution Radio
TV show is coming here around the world on the
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hour to explore what may go on between lives is
Rena kumar Ascamrina is a regression therapist, Between lives therapist
and trainer supervisor for the Past Life Regression Academy. She's
the author of Shrouded Truth, Magalin Lineage, and Divine Consciousness.
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Over the last eight years, she's spearheaded the pioneering the
New Consciousness retreats. Her website Rinacumarasingham dot com. Rina, thank
you so much for joining us on Mission Evolution.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Thank you so much for having me goil down. So
excited to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I am. I love your topic and it's just a
fascinating one. I don't know if we'll find any answers today,
but we'll give her a try.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Give it a shot, Give it a shot.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So how did you first become interested in past lives?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, I actually grew up a Hindu in Malaysia, so
as a Hindu, past lives for me was a way
of life. Was just a fact of life. You know,
ass is green sky's blue, past lives exist, and so
growing up with it, with it particularly being a way
of life, I was really fascinated by it. And when
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I used to go to my Hindu study classes, you know,
as a as a child, it's very similar to Katechism
for Christians. So you know, we had our Hindu child
study classes. We were always told that our lives right now,
our current life is like a snapshot, but the lives
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of our soul is like a movie. And so that's
basically how everything interlinks. And I found that really really interesting.
And then what I did was when I went to university,
I did my degree in psychology, and when I graduated
at the age of twenty one, I realized I didn't
have enough experience to be able to serve in this capacity.
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I didn't have enough knowledge, enough wisdom. And then what
I did was I did a master's in business administration
and I entered the corporate world in Asia in the
media industry for about twelve years, and then I got
really bored with doing public relations in the media industry.
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And when I spoke to my public relations mentor, he said, Rena,
if you're bored doing public relations in the media industry,
you're better off just getting out of public relations altogether.
And he was right, because the media industry is really
fast paced. Everything else is not as fast paced as
the media industry. And so then I decided to sort
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of wet my toes again to see if I wanted
to go back into the psychological counseling arena. And I
did a quick weekend course and then ILPA realized I
loved it, like I really wanted to go back into it.
And then there was a gentleman who was advertising a
past life regression training course in Singapore called Andy Tomlinson,
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and so I was really enthralled by it because he
combined modern psychotherapeutic techniques with past life regression. So for me,
that was the perfect marriage, no pun intended. And so
I did the course and then Andy took my money
and then married me. And then he so we have
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you know, he still owes me. I tell him this
and then and then he basically because I used to
live in Singapore in the tropical weather, he just brought
me to the UK weather you know place, and this
is where I've been ever since.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Pretty fascinating. So I understand you had a near death experience.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I did.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Would you go into that for us a little bit?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Of course. It was in twenty twenty in March, at
the end of March, and I remember this date so
clearly because it was my father's birthday, the twenty seventh
of March, and I had a release coming out as well.
But I was in bed and I thought I had
a burnout. But as a few days progressed, I think
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five days progressed, I realized that I actually had COVID.
And this was at the early stages of COVID, where
not very many people knew what was happening. People were
going into hospitals. The only thing you heard in the
news and the media, were you get COVID. COVID equals
to death, really, And I knew I had COVID because
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I felt two metal bands around my lung, the top
part of my lung and the bottom part of my
lung just squeezing me. And I found it very, very
difficult to breathe, and I was extremely fatigued. I couldn't
get out of bed. And so I mean it was
good because this is how Andy, Andy who is my husband,
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took really amazing care of me, because for sixty days,
actually I couldn't get out of bed. And so there
was a time when I and during the early days
when I said to Andy, I said, I really don't
want to go to the hospital because what you heard
where people went into the hospital, they were intubated, they
were isolated, there were no windows, fluorescent lights. It wasn't
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something I wanted to experience. And I said, you know,
whatever happens, is it okay if I just stayed at home.
And he was very kind and very sweet, and he
said yes, and so he took on the burden of
actually taking care of me. And I remember this so
clearly because there were a few times I couldn't breathe
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between the twenty seventh of March and the tenth of April,
and every time I thought I was going to die
because I couldn't breathe, I actually had a panic attack.
And on the tenth of April, it was night and Andy,
actually it was about ten o'clock, and Andy came to wish
me good night, took our little doggies, went to his room,
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and I reached over and I turned off the light.
And as my eyes closed, I had a very strong
knowing that if my eyes closed now, I wouldn't open
them ever again. And with this knowing came an incredible
sense of peace. It was as though another part of
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my body took over, you know, almost like my soul
took over. But there was one part of what I
would refer to as the ego consciousness that sort of went,
you know, I have to observe this. And the minute
I closed my eyes, I saw five light beings at
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the foot of my bed, and they they do you know,
you know, you know a Bunsen burner, you know how
the flames of the Bunsen burner that, yeah, so they
were basically like the color of the flames of the
Bunsen burner, and they talked to me about my current life,
and we were reviewing my childhood, which is where most
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of my wounding occurred. And they did a lot of
healing with that. And then they said, okay, well it's
time to go, and I was like, okay, this is
really happening. And I felt like I was pulled into
a different space, an expansive space, but it felt like
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I was pulled like I was caught in an ocean riptide.
I had zero control over any you know, I couldn't
control anything. And as I was being pulled, all my
concerns fell away. Everything that I thought was really important,
like numbers, you know, work matters, bills, you know, things
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that I thought was so important in my living world.
All these things just fell away. And I just felt
so free and so expansive, and I just thought to myself, woh,
you know, this is the most beautiful, peaceful experience. And
but you know, as I was going as well, there
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was the observer part that just went, this monumental thing
is happening to you, and nobody knows, not even Andy knew.
And then I was then the beings of light basically
showed me the earth and showed like what looked like
a grid of plumes of gray smoke around the earth,
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and the Beings of Light asked me, why do you
strangle yourselves? You know, why do you suffocate yourselves, you know,
with these plumes of smoke. And at that point I thought, well,
maybe this had some reference to COVID, because everyone was
you know, COVID meant you couldn't breathe. And then it
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was time. They said, okay, well it's time for us
to go now. But the one thing that was holding
me back was Andy, because he was taking such wonderful
care of me. I wanted to I couldn't bear for
him to come down in the morning and see my
lifeless body there and you know, perhaps feel guilt or
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the should have would have. I couldn't bear that, and
so I actually negotiated with the Beings of Light and
I said, is it okay if I have ten minutes,
I just want to pop back, write a note to Andy,
you know, saying you know, I love you, It is
my time to go. This is not your fault, you know,
and all that. And they basically said, no, you either
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come with us or you go back, and you know,
it was a really hard choice to make because going
into that expansive place of so much freedom and so
much beece, It's something I've never experienced before. It was
so tempting. But again that part of me that wanted
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to for Andy to be okay with all this, you know,
sort of one and then I came well, then I
blacked out. Actually, so I don't know what happened then,
but when I opened my eyes, I turned the light on,
and it was about two am. And then I just
basically stayed in bed and I was just processing the
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whole thing.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
It certainly is life changing. It's funny we have to
die to have something with life changing, but exactly changing,
isn't it. Yeah, it puts everything into perspective. So when
we're talking about past lives, how can you be sure
that past lives aren't just metaphorical Because a lot of
the things that we experience, just even in your past life,
I mean, in your near death experience, are metaphors to
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make sense to the mind of what's going on at
the quantum level or in the spiritual realm. How can
you be sure that past lives aren't just metaphorical?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Well, I think if we we have to go into
the the neurophysiology of the brain. If if something is
metaphorical or if we're making something up, there is a
different part of the brain that lights up, which is
the prefrontal you know, the frontal cortex. If we are
actually remembering something, it comes more from our hippocampus, and
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that's where emotions come through, very very strong emotions. So,
as a past life aggression therapist, when we are working
with past lives, what actually happens is if there is
a spontaneous cathosis, and that's what we do as past
life therapists. We do healing work is to is to
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allow these emotions to come up so that we can
move forward in our life in a reframed mindset. You know,
it's sort of taking away all these challenges in a
reframed mindset. And if there's a really strong emotional release,
then we know that more likely than not that it
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is a real it is a real memory. They're accessing
a real memory. And so an example I can give
you with this is I'm sorry, have you got a
pet I have to ask you this question?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Well, I do, but we're just about ready to go
into a station break, so we're going to have to
pick up on pets on the other side, Na Breena
and I will return very shortly, so don't you go away.
This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission evolution dot org.
If I had a past life, why can't I remember it?
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With this? Cis our discussing past lives. Is Rina Kumeriscam,
the author of Shrouded Truth, Magdalen Lennage and Define Consciousness
her website Renau dot com. Rina, we were talking about
past life how you can tell if you're actually looking
at a past life versus a metaphor, And you said,
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emotion is the key? Is that because the part of
the brain that emotion comes from.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yes, because it's very close the amygdala, where the emotion
is is very very close within the hippocampus, very very
close to where our memories are processed and kept. So
that's why that's how we know. That's a huge indicator
that it is a real memory versus something that is
made up. So, you know, I was talking about pets,
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So you know you did tell me you had a pet.
If you were talking to a friend, for example, and
that friend mentions to you that their pet had passed away.
If you had your own pet that's passed away, you
would immediately tap into that memory of your own pet
passing away, and you would feel really deeply and empathize
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with your friend. And that's because it's tapped into the
emotion and therefore the memory. But if you say, didn't
have a pet, and your friend was telling you your pet,
you know, her pet had passed away, then you would
you wouldn't feel quite as deeply. You would sympathize with
her ands say you know, look, I'm really sorry. You know,
what can I do to help you or whatever? You know,
Let's go have coffee. But you couldn't feel it. You
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couldn't feel what your your your friend is feeling. And
that's how we know.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
So there's there's another little issue here. There's past life
memory and there's genetic memory. How can you tell one
of those from the other.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
The way we tell is how we actually regress through
the timelines. So, for example, if we have if you're
I'm just gonna if if we can track your past
life through a horizontal access right, which is the journey
of your soul, the movie of your soul, and then
you've got your ancestral access that goes down this way
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and you are right where the two lines meet. Yes,
And the way we can the way we actually manage
the process is, you know, with past lives, you know,
we just say, just go to a memory where you
know that that reminds you of this. But when when
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we're actually tapping into the ancestral line, it's a different
way of navigating the past life. We have to have
to go through the different memories of the different ancestors
to get to the source ancestor.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
So it's pretty clear that you're going through memories of
ancestors versus memories of a person's past life.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, as opposed to the linear memory of a person's
past life.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
So why do we forget our past lives?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Well, if we look at the between life states here,
we forget our past lives because we actually come into
life to learn lessons, and if we already know a
lot of our past lives, it is very, very difficult
to learn those lessons. It's almost like knowing the answers
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to your test before actually taking the test.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I have a question. A lot of people mention that
we're here to learn lessons, but how do we know
we're here to learn lessons. Whose idea was that, oh.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
In between life sessions? The idea actually comes from us,
the souls. We choose to come here.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Okay, so you figured that out by going into between
life regression, Yes, we do. So do we get to
read the small print?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Or it's really interesting because in between life sessions, the
between life sessions will actually be blocked. And we've actually
experienced this if the person hasn't gone through their test
yet or if they're in the middle of a big
karmic drama, as it were, a big karmic lesson. So,
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for example, if someone is in the middle of going
through a divorce, they can't experience it between lives because,
for example, say that divorce is part of their lesson,
But after the divorce, then they can come for a
between lives and then they can actually get higher perspective
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spiritual perspective as to why that divorce happens, and that
would then minimize the emotional negative impact on that person
moving forward.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
So it would seem we have plenty of healing needed
from this lifetime. What's the advantage of going into past life?
I mean, is it just kind of spiritual avoidance?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I wouldn't say so much. It's avoidance. I think it's
almost like peeling an onion. So when we actually do
past life regression therapy, we're actually doing trauma work, and
when we go back to past lives that is the
source of a particular trauma we are going through. At
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the moment, it's almost like there's a disassociative state, like
we're this is like it's in the past, do you
know what I mean? The person goes through it, the
psyche goes through it because they know it's safe. It's
happened in the past there, and the psyche knows that
the person is sitting on the couch right now and
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they're fine. Does that make sense to you? So people
go through the past life to sort of peel the
layers of the onion to get to the point in
the current life of what they're going through, and then
it's so much easier and safer for the client to
go through that particular challenge.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
So if a client is going through some I'm trying
to figure out how you target this. So if a
client comes to you for past life aggression, do you
follow in through what's up in their lives right now,
or do you just kind of go back and see
whatever shows up.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
No, I mean, so there are two ways we can
do past life regression. I mean what the first way
is what I call past life tourism, and this is
where someone just wants to come and explore different past
lives and there's you know, you just explore. It's like
you know, getting on a plane and having a high
level overview of different past lives. But when we work
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with regression therapy, we actually are doing sort of trauma healing,
and this is where we actually go back to the
source of the trauma that the person is facing right now.
The other thing as well is you know when we
forget and we come back, you know when we come
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when we are incarnate and we forget what our lesson is.
Sometimes those traumas are not resolved in the past life.
So what happens is they bring back the lesson in
the current life. And so what we do is we
take them back to the past life where it's safer
for the psyche to be able to confront the trauma
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and resolve it, and then bring it forward to the
current life confront the present trauma, heal it, and get
spiritual perspective like a wider spiritual perspective, the video perspective
of why this has happened to them. So it's basically
like a full picture of the soul.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
So we're running along in our day to day life
and you know, various times something will happen, it will
trigger us into this life. But past experience, past trauma,
does the same thing happen with past life. You're running
along in this ordinary reality life and all of a
sudden you're triggered. There's nothing it hooks to in this lifetime.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, there are some if you actually look at some
of doctor Ian Stevenson's work. He is a renowned psychologist.
I think he's from the US, and he is quite
famous for looking at children's past lives, spontaneous past lives
that have popped up and he's actually gone and he's
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done the research and he's found out that the details
that the child remembers actually does all tie in when
he's gone, you know, and sort of looked at to
see if everything correlates historical facts. Historical facts. Yeah, So
for example, there was a child in Thailand who who
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was born with a birthmarks, you know, around the face,
and this child spontaneously started to talk about how he
was shot in the face. And when Professor Ian Stevenson,
when he heard this, he actually went to Thailand, interviewed
the child, interviewed the family, and then he got the
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details from the child and then went and investigated all
these different details and he realized that yes, there was
actually this person by this name who was shot by
you know so and so, and that's how that soul
died and then came back with a memory, you know,
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of a birthmark.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I've heard of children being having more access to past
lives than we have as adults. Why does that fade.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Because when we actually tap, you know, therapeutically, when we
tap into past lives. It's easier to tap into past
lives under a hypnosis. So your brainwave is on the
alpha brainwave. I think it's the alpha. But when you know,
and the when children are really young, they have that
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similar brainwave until they grow up, and the more they
grow up, their brainwave, our brain waves actually change. And
also when children are born, children are very pure, they're
not conditioned by different things. So that's why the memories
are sitting right on the surface. And the fact of
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the matter is, you know, there are so many children
who will spontaneously talk about memories, but a lot of
parents sort of push it aside. Maybe they might attribute
it to imagination, you know, for example, or he's got
an invisible friend, or you know something, but it could
very well be past life memories that come up.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I think children are sharper than we give them credit.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
For, much sharper.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
So how can a person tell, if you know, really
they need past life regression. How can you tell you
need past life regression versus therapy for the present life.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
I think the thing is if you if you are approaching,
if you need a wider spiritual perspective for a challenge
you're going through, and if you can relate to the
fact that our lives are a movie and not just
a snapshot of our current life, then that's when you
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would look for someone who would do regression therapy.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
So is it like the emotions and the trauma that
you're experiencing in the present don't really add up to
the trauma that you've had in this lifetime?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
So can you say that again?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Is it like the emotions and the trauma that you're
experiencing in the present don't add up to the trauma
that you've experienced this particular lifetime.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, no, that could be Yeah, that could be a
factor as well. But I think if the thing that
people the reason why people want to come for past
life regression therapy is for that wider spiritual perspective.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I've heard of a lot of people saying, oh, I
was I was you know, jab at the hut or
whatever in the past lifetime, right, usually something glamorous. And
yet I've heard enough people you know, isis I was?
Isis in a past lifetime? How many isises were there?
What's going on there? I've heard a lot of people
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say the same same character.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah. So I mean this is a really good question
because in my practice, and in a lot of regression
therapists practice, you know, we see about, you know, thousands
of clients and we probably get one glamorous lifestyle. That
the reason why this has talked about is because there
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are records out there that they can correlate with their accounts.
But a lot of people when they come to us,
the peasants, so for example, ditch diggers for example, and
in those days, ditch diggers didn't have maybe even birth records,
so they can't go back and they cannot correlate the stories.
You know, their their accounts, the ditchtiggers or the peasants,
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they can't correlate it. Or they were a soldier somewhere.
And if they can't recall their name because when they
come for healing, we don't ask for facts like names.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Well, I'm sorry, We're going to help her to take
another station break, Rina and I will be right back
to continue our discussion, So please stay right there. This
is Mission Evolution, Mission evolution dot org. If we have
more than one life, what do we do between them?
This is Mission Evolution, Mission evolution dot org. With this
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discussing between lives is Rena Cumaressingham her website, Rina Cumaressingam
dot com. Rina, what is between life therapy?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
So between lives is basically if you look at that
line again that you know the past life and then
this is your ancestral line. Between lives is what happens
between your last past life and your current life. And
in this between life space is what happens here normally
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is where we find out why we have planned to
come to be reincarnated in the current life, What was
the plan, what were the soul contracts? Why did we
choose the mother that we chose, the husband that we chose,
the father that we chose, and also we get a
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brief review of the immediate past life so that we
can see the link between that past life and the
current life and how the whole story ties together.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
So what is between life spiritual regression?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Between life spiritual regression is a process that is based
on doctor Michael Newton's work. He called it life between
lives regression, and our academy we call it between life
spiritual regression. And it's a process that therapist can use
to take people into this between life space.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
So, when we're getting ready to come back, okay from
the between life place and we've kind of made this plan,
are we drawn to a specific genetic line in order
to find a resonance with what we've come to do?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
It could be. It differs for different people. Some people
find that genetic line, but in most cases there is
something that we refer to as a soul group, and
so it's not so much a physiological genetic line, but
a soul family, as it were. And within the soul family,
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they can pick and choose who is going who they're
going to have different soul contracts.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
For to.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Basically go through the lesson that they choose to go through.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Okay, so you gave this example of this is our life,
past life, future life or whatever, and this is our
genetic memory and genetic line, and where the two cross is,
where the person is, where they encarnate. So with that
being the case, don't we have to be a line
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carries so much memory and so much resonance with different things.
Isn't it important that we choose a line that resonates
with our mission this time?
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Of course it is, But people don't sort of in
our experience within the practice, people don't purposely choose a
particular genetic line. You know. It's more it's almost like
some people choose a body, like a physical body, they
choose where they're born. They can choose different souls to
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come down as a soul, you know, uh, in terms
of contracts, but there's never a discussion about, uh, the
genealogy and the ancestral flow or the ancestral curse that
comes through. However, I would say that if a particular
genetic line is significant, so if you're a generational you know,
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trauma breaker or you know, which is very much in
line with your life lesson, then you would that that
would factor into your plan, but it's never explicitly discussed
during a session.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Interesting, so when you're talking about generational trauma breaker, So
in that case, the person comes into whatever family line
is carrying the trauma that they would like to break
this time.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yes, but it also could be that the soul family
that they've had made these contracts with have also incarnated
within this line. Because at the end of the day,
it doesn't matter, you know, it is about the lesson
that the soul is learning by being a trauma breaker,
a generational trauma breakers. It could affect the generation, you know,
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the particular line, it could affect them, but again it's
going to affect the individual souls and their particular lessons
as they come down.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
You know, it's pretty hard to not notice that this
is a pretty traumatic time in our history. There's a
lot going on, you know, as we enter the age
of Aquarius, there's a lot of frequency shifts, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. How do you see that impacting
past life regression and the people that are here. Do
you see a lot of people that are coming to
break the patterns here and now.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Yep, I see this especially actually not so much in
past lives, but I see it in between live sessions.
It's really interesting because before this time, a lot of
people when they come, they talk about their own significant
life lessons. You know, they want to learn more about love,
they want to learn more about you know, boundaries, they
want to learn more about you know, it's just it's
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life lessons. But now we're getting a lot more souls
coming down because they are on a mission, and their
mission is to help with the shift of the planet.
And it's also very interesting because a lot of these
souls that are coming down, their vibration is very is
very different. It's almost like they're either vibrating at a
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high vibration to help raise the vibration of the planet,
and they are finding it very difficult to assimilate in
the Earth's vibration, if that makes sense, because it, yeah,
it's not in resonance. And so when they actually come
for between lives and they find out what their mission is,
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which is their reason for being, then it's interesting how
these challenges and all these traumatic thoughts or you know,
these these ideations disappear because now they've got a focus,
they've got a reason for being and then they can
help with that shift.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
So we've been talking at least say so, we've been
talking about past lives on the planet, these ones that
come in with the mission, and some other ones. Do
they come from someplace else?
Speaker 3 (34:38):
They come We call them non human resonance souls, so
it to us. We don't specifically say exactly where they
are coming from. It's just that they're of a different
frequency and they are used to a completely different frequency
that is not of the Earth's frequency, and so they
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come to help with that that shift.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
And again, I've heard a lot of people say that
the Earth is kind of under the under the gun
right now and a lot of people are watching it.
He are, a lot of beings are watching what's going
on the planet right now. Have you seen any evidence
of that in between life therapies.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
We've seen a lot of evidence actually because just I
had a you know, it's so interesting. I had when
because I used to train people to actually conduct between
lives regression therapy and we had a student who went
back to a to her between lives and what she
does and her group does is they sort of monitor
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the vibration of the different planets at different points, and
she said that because, you know, during her session, she
said that because the you know, the the the Earth's
vibration is it's stuttering a little bit, so you know,
has come down to help with that, you know, to
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make it a bit more flowy as it were. And
so yeah, I mean we're finding it's fascinating. You know
when we get students that come down and or clients
come down and they talk about their mission, it's fascinating
how it is they are here to help with the shift.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
How can a person tell if they're one of the
ones with the mission.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Well, you can't tell it consciously. You will find out
about it. It emerges organically during a session.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
But does a person tend to have little markers like
they're driven or they're yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Yeah, If there are markers, then there's a knowing. There's
also a sense of not belonging because the vibration is
very different, and because of that, they feel a bit
isolated and they feel alone, but there is a very
strong knowing that they are here for a reason. Now
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a lot of people may not understand, like they don't
consciously understand that, and so the isolation and the not
belonging sort of overwhelms them. Does that make sense? Yeah?
But and I can't say all of them follow one
specific path because they are sort of you know, everyone's
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seeded in different paths, like different parts of the world,
like what people do. So for example, not everyone seated
in the spiritual path. You know, you get people who
are seated in politics or health. So yeah, but there
is a very strong mission and also they can see
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something new. They are breakers of the old.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
We certainly need some system breakers right now now. Ye,
So if you're contemplating having past life or between life therapy,
how does a person know which one to ask for.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Normally, people who come for a past life therapy there
they want to work on a particular challenge, so they
either have unexplainable pain or an unexplainable emotion, or they're
going through something quite rough at this time, and that's
when they come for past life progression therapy. Someone who
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comes for between life therapy, in my experience, they are
actually called to it, so they actually get a sense
that they need the between lives therapy, and then they
contact us. It's almost like their spirit guides are going,
you know, I think you need this and then you
know and and give, and they give them a tap
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for them to actually come for a between life session.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Maybe maybe they come to what was I thinking when
I signed up for this?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
At A lot of us do that. Yeah, it's almost
like saying, well, you know, I'm going to climb Mount
Himalayas right now, the Himalaya mountains with no training.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah. They just jump you in here, make you forget everything,
and you're on your own right exactly.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Also, you think you was a little rough.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
So when we're in human form, our understanding of spirit
can be very limited. How can you be sure you're
interpreting what's happening between lives accurately?
Speaker 3 (39:32):
When we go into the between live sessions, we actually
put our clients in a very very deep hypnotic state,
and we use hypnotic techniques to keep them in that state.
And it's almost like getting into that that brain wave
of a child where it's very very pure. And so
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people are when they in that session, when they're communicating
to us, you can tell if it's something that's coming organically,
and you can tell when the questioning mind, the rational mind,
gets involved. And the minute the rational mind gets involved,
we immediately drop them back down into that deep hypnotic state,
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and then the story sort of shifts, not the story ships,
but the way that it's being communicated shifts. That that
rational mind has gone, you know, has been put aside
for a bit. So that's how we can tell.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
So the rational mind tries to interpret the information based
on our lifetime this time, and so when you're in
a deep state, it probably comes through more metaphorically.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Yeah, it comes through from a memory versus the rational mind,
the conscious mind. It comes from the subconscious mind. Yeah,
And we tape. We actually encourage, you know, our students
to tape all the between live sessions, and so that's
when the clients can go back, listen to it and
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then sort of think about it and process it because, yeah,
because it comes the information comes in layers.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
So sometimes it's time for us to take into the
station break. Please stay with This is Reena and I
continue to explore near death, past lives, and between lives.
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How can knowing what goes on between lives help us? Now?
This is Mission Evolution, Mission Evolution dot org. We're continuing
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our discussion with Rena Cumarassingum her website Renacumarossingum dot com. Rina,
you know, it seems, I don't want to say far fetched,
but quite distant from our ordinary day to day reality
to consider past lives and between lives and that sort
of thing. How can we tell that that's where we
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need to go and if we go there, how does
it help us? Now?
Speaker 3 (42:07):
So with so, there are two different reasons why people
will come for past lives. A lot of people are
drawn to doing past life regressions because there are they
want to know the bigger picture of their soul story.
They're you know, they don't want to know the little
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snapshot of their current life. They want to know the movie.
And also they get a sense or that they want
to know more about past lives or like I said,
if they have an unexplainable pain or a chat like,
for example, a really strange phobia that they can't explain
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in this particular lifetime, so that's when they can come
for a past life progression therapy session. A lot of
people can be quite curious and they want to have
past live tourism. Then they can go for that as well.
And that's just like I said, the airplane view of
you know, different lives, past lives that they can explore.
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People come for a between live session because they are
at a crossroads in their lives and they wish to
know what's next for them. Are they going through their
have they you know in terms of their sole plan?
You know, are they actually meeting the goals of their
soul plan? Are they on track to meet the goals
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of their soul plan? You know, if people get a
sense that there is a mission, then they come to
find out. Well, they don't actually communicate that, you know,
we've got a mission, but they feel a bit lost
in their lives and they want to find out like
what's next for them. They actually come to us and
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that's when normally a mission would come out quite spontaneously
and organically during the session for them.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
So how do between lives differ from lifetime to lifetime?
Speaker 3 (44:05):
So the between life process remains the same, the content
is different because people go through lifetimes to learn different
lessons and so the planning to go into the different
lifetimes will change. So the reason for being will change,
the soul contracts will change, The souls that they choose
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to have the contracts with will change. You know, sometimes
some people they shipped missions as well. Like for example,
I had a client who came to me for a
session because you know, she was she she'd run a business,
a very lucrative business. She sold the business, and then
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she wanted to know what was next. And so when
we did her between life session, we found out that
her last past life, she was a minor, a call
my and she actually died when she was underground. And
so what so when we actually went to the between
live state, because that's how we actually go into the
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between live state, we go to your last past life,
that's the takeoff point and then we go into between us. Okay,
so that's that's a bit of technicality. So when we
then went into the between live state, we found out
that during the planning, one of her her her soul mission,
like her bigger mission, was to basically construct different planets,
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and so you know, for a few lives, she actually
was looking at land. So you know, that's why her
last past life she was actually a minor, but she
was you know, sort of collecting information about the Earth
and the geology of the Earth. And so now she's
actually changed her mission in this life and she has
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to look you know, she's looking at organisms on the planet,
and so her path was to basically look at animals
in the current life. And then you know, obviously she
will go through a few lives looking at animals and
that all that knowledge and information will sort of moves
into her mission of constructing planets.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
So you said that you go into a past life, okay,
to ask access to between lives. So how many past
lives back can you go to get access to between
life between those lives and how important is that?
Speaker 3 (46:38):
We say that the most important one to go to
is the last past life because you want to know
about your plan for your current life, because this is
the life that's most relevant, and therefore the information from
the between lives that's most relevant to that is your
your your you know, the one just before your current life.
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If people want to explore it some more, you know,
they can go back to different past lives to access
the different between life state. And I know very few
people who do that, and they do that more for
knowledge gathering and not so much for a shift shifting
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their lives or changing their lives or changing their perspective
of their lives moving forward.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
So if we go and we look at past lives.
We're going into the past in a way. Does doing
that change our future?
Speaker 3 (47:41):
No, because what we are doing when we go and
look at the past is we are trying to get
information about why we are having the current challenge that
we are having. If it is going to change the future,
it would be us making choice to maybe shift that
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particular challenge. So, for example, you know, if we've had
a few lifetimes of being scared of spiders, you know,
for for whatever reason, and I'm trying to pick a
very light phobiable. You know, if we can overcome the
fear of spiders in this particular life, then there will
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be a next lesson or a next mission in your
future lives. But if we don't overcome this fear of
spiders in the current life, even if we go and
explore the past lives because you know, it's too much
or it's too deep, then there is an option to
then bring that fear in the future lives. Should we
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choose to do that.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Well, it sounds like we do change the future then
simply by our choices.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Yes we do.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Yeah, So tell us a little about your research in
near death experience, between life and near death spirits yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
So, because I had my own near death experience, and
I had my own between lives spiritual regression, and I
used to train people to do the between lives, I
realized that there were very there were similarities in the
stages of my near death experience and the you know,
some of the first few stages of the between lives,
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so you know, the the light beings coming down, that
there's that that conversation about the life, you know, the
the you know about my childhood wounding that happens in
the between lives as well. There is also the pulling,
you know, how we move from the body to a
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different space. So the between lives, though, continues on with
the meeting of the soul groups and the planning for
the next life. Now, had I gone through that, then
it would have been a death experience, not a near
death exsp sperience. So we just so, I basically and
I said to Andy, I said, isn't this interesting how
these stages are very similar to the between life stages.
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And I was curious to know whether it was because
I was filtering it through my own brain, and you know,
I was quite well versed in the between life stages.
And so we looked for books, and there were, you know,
no research out there about it, and so what Andy
and I decided to do, you know, at first it
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was more for ourselves, was to look at the near
death experience accounts and between life aggression accounts to see
if these similarities were universal or if it was just
for me. So we looked at about five hundred case
studies of between life accounts, and we looked at about
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four hundred ish case studies of near death experiences that
were collected by near death experienced pioneers like you know,
doctor Pinman Lomo and doctor Bruce Grayson and doctor Peter Fennick.
And we actually found that there was a very very
strong correlation in these stages in the between lives regression
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and the near death experience. So we found that very interesting.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Yeah, so you speak of the new consciousness, what do
you mean by that?
Speaker 3 (51:22):
Oh, it's it's what we were talking about before, about
the shift of the planet. You know, it's almost like moving,
like you said, we're moving into the age of Aquarius.
But if you actually also look at the Vedic astrology,
the Vedic astrology says that we are actually now moving
from the Kali Yuga which is the Dark Ages, and
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we are actually ascending, you know, as a as a
as a collective consciousness, we're ascending.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
Some of the some Vedic astrologers say we're going into
the Satya Yuga, which is the Golden Age. Some say
that we're going to the the Iron Age. But there
is that ascending and the timeline between us going to
the you know, the Western astrology of us moving into
the Age of Aquarius and the Vedic astrology actually correlates.
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So there is this enormous shift in consciousness. And the
way I would explain that is that the earth is
just vibrating. It's vibrating so quickly. It's almost like we
take a rug and you know, like a dirty rug
on the floor and we're just agitating it with the vibration.
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And with that agitation, you know, a lot of dust
will come out. We see things under the carpet, you know,
maybe like some some some some bugs, some dead bugs,
or you know, a coins.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
It's that time. We're just about out of time. And
I would be if I didn't ask you, what is
your mission?
Speaker 3 (52:52):
What's my mission?
Speaker 2 (52:53):
What's your mission?
Speaker 3 (52:55):
Do you know? After my near death experience, my mission
is to be in peace, to be in peace in
whatever situation there is, because I dropped all my worries,
remember and you know, everything that I thought was so important,
and I just want to stay in that place of
peace and freedom. And I would like to expand my
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own consciousness while in the body, to be in that
place of freedom and peace that I actually experienced when
I had my near death experience, because I feel we
don't need to go to the edge of life to
experience that, as it were. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (53:33):
It does. So when you all bet it's a moving target,
I mean, you have to constantly course correct. But when
you're in that state, do you how do you find
it affects the people around you.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
I find that it affects people differently because it also
depends on my vibration and what's affecting my piece. So,
you know, I've let a few people go and they,
you know, were not that impressed with that. They didn't
like that very much. And a lot more people have
come to me, you know, and we are in the
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same resonance and that we're trying to stay as much
as possible in that place of peace and expanded freedom.
Even the things that I do my work, you know,
like I'm pursuing a different sort of work now, you
know something that that that sort of impacts that piece
that you know.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah, it is time for us to call call the in.
So unfortunately we are out of time. But Rena, thank
you so much for coming on this show.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
Thank you so much for having me GUILDA. It's been
such a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
Been a real pleasure. Our guest is hour has been
Rena Cumarossingham. Rena is a regression therapist and between Life's
Therapists and the author of Shrouded Truth, Magdalene Lineage, and
Divine Consciousness. To find out more about Rena, where you
can find her books and all she has to offer,
visit her website, Rina Cumarossingham dot com. This has been
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