October 24, 2025 • 55 mins
Morry Zelcovitch is an innovative brainwave-entrainment engineer and the founder of MindTrainer PRO, a performance-enhancement system that blends over 40 years of research into brainwave states with proprietary audio-visual technology.
His approach—known as the “Morry Method”—uses isochronic and monaural tones, along with visual image entrainment (VIE), to guide users into states of deep focus, relaxation, creativity and mental clarity.
With a background rooted in overcoming personal challenges and a dedication to optimizing cognitive performance, he has developed programs trusted by entrepreneurs, athletes and high-performers worldwide.
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His approach—known as the “Morry Method”—uses isochronic and monaural tones, along with visual image entrainment (VIE), to guide users into states of deep focus, relaxation, creativity and mental clarity.
With a background rooted in overcoming personal challenges and a dedication to optimizing cognitive performance, he has developed programs trusted by entrepreneurs, athletes and high-performers worldwide.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to Mission Evolution Radio show with Gwildawaka, bringing together
today's leading experts to uncover ever deepening spiritual truths and
the latest scientific developments in support of the evolution of humankind.
For more information on Mission Evolution Radio with Gildawaka, visit
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host of Mission Evolution, Miss Gwildawiyeka.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Welcome to Mission Evolution, where we share the latest discoveries
that shape the evolution of consciousness. I'm your host, Gildawyeka.
One of the key to unlocking human potential lies within
the rhythms of the mind itself. Today's guest, Marizolkovich, founder
of mind trainer dashpro dot com, is a pie in
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the science of brain wave and trainment, the art and
technology of using sound frequencies to harmonize the mind, elevate awareness,
and expand consciousness. Join us as we explore how brainwave
technology can reduce stress, enhance creativity, and even help bridge
the gap between science and spirituality. This is Mission Evolution,
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where science meet spirit. Maury, thank you so much for
joining us on Mission Evolution.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
It's my absolute pleasure to be here. Welda, thanks for inviting.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Me my pleasure. So what the first What first inspired
you to look into brainwave and trainment.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Let's see, that's not hard to think about. Actually, how
to say it is a little harder. How about forty
years of wanting to be dead? That's kind of a
SoundBite for you. I basically was depressed and super depressed
my entire life that I'm just over forty years now,
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up until the point where I came up with the
brainwave and trainment technologies and techniques that I now share
with the world that I was using for myself to
actually change the chemistry in my brain. I kind of
found that, you know, I was like most people, I
would think, trying things to feel better and not really succeeding.
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I tried drugs, I tried alcohol, I tried women. There
were moments of joy with all of those, but for
the most part, it was hell on Earth. Made things
much worse, and I wasn't being fair to the people
I was with either, But of course, being depressed, I
didn't care. I was selfish. I only cared about myself.
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Started realizing when those didn't work that I needed to
find some other way. So I started seeing other kinds
of doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists, know people to who top breathing techniques,
emdr hypnosis, meditation, you know, all the array of things
that I could find. By the way, all of these
things are fantastic, they just weren't good for me. And
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at that point I decided, we're talking decades into my research.
At this point, I kind of thought, you know, I
need to understand what's going on because at this point
I've tried to end my life six times that I
can remember. Yes, I probably blocked out others, but I
kind of realized that if I truly wanted to die,
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once would have been enough. So when I found that
I couldn't find a way to die, I had to
find a way to live. And that's really what set
me off on this whole discovery mission. Eventually I came
across a thing called the paper Internet. Can you guess
what I'm describing when I call something the paper Internet? No,
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I really library, the library. So for some of you
who don't know what a library is, google it you'll
see what it is. They have. It used to be
a building with books. If you don't know what a
book is, google that too. So basically what happened was.
I started reading because I wanted to understand what was
going on. So I was reading psychology books and journals
and I was reading sociology, quantum physics, neurobiology, neural chemistry.
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And the end result was I got this understanding that
my mood, how I felt, was a direct result of
chemical production in my brain. And it turns out that
I wasn't far off. So what happens is we have thoughts.
These thoughts produced brainwave activity. This brainwave activity is basically
neuronal actions. So your neurons which make up your brain,
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start pulsing, but they pulse like a light switch going
on and off, not like a heart. And depending on
how many times they pulse per second and how and
the location in the brain where they are, that dictates
the kind kind of chemistry they release. And much like
a recipe, if you have a really good recipe and
you follow it, you can make something that tastes beautiful.
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If you don't follow it and you don't have all
the ingredients, you can make something that tastes rather horrible.
And that's kind of what I was doing. I was
creating all this bad chemistry that was making my life
taste like crap when I realized, Sorry, go.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Ahead, let's back up a little bit. What exactly is
brainwaven trainment?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
So I can tell everyone out there that there's an
excellent chance that you've all experienced brainwave in trainment, whether
you know what it means or not. So brainwaven trainment
is when we make the neurons your brains, which pulse
frequencies all the time. They're pulsing usually between one and
one hundred, sometimes more times per second. What brainwaven trainment
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does is it allows us to kind of guide the
brain into specific frequencies in a dominant way so that
more cells create the exact kind of chemistry we're looking for,
and that helps us to create a different effect.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It sounds like it could be misused if you're not careful,
couldn't it?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I suppose it could. There was some stuff that I
was experimenting with many years ago that I actually took
the hard drive out of my computer and destroyed it
because I didn't want anyone else to be able to
recreate what I accidentally came up with because it made
me feel like crap. For three weeks. I felt like garbage,
and I could have done something to change it, but
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I needed to know exactly how bad the effects were,
so it took three weeks for me to normalize. It
could be used like that, but in most cases for
it to be effective, it's at a comfortable volume. It's
stereo headphones or bone conduction headphones, laying down with your
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eyes closed. So the possibility of using it for evilness
is not all that probable because people could just stop listening.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Would they have a clue that this is not working
well for me and I need to stop listening during
the yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
It would feel uncomfortable. It could feel like I'm getting
sick or sad, or headache or agitated, these kinds of things.
Because remember, we're affecting brain activity, and it's that activity
that creates the chemistry, and it's the chemistry that creates
your experience.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
So basically that's how it works.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, sorry, I'm sorry, I just wanted to finish the thought.
So what happens is I explained that most people have
experienced it already. So if you've ever listened to music
that you like and you find yourself tapping your toes
mindlessly or popping your head back and forth mindlessly, that's
a form of entrainment. So everybody's experienced it, and I
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apologize for interrupt.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Not a problem. So can brainwave frequencies affect emotional states?
And if so, how.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Well, once again, I'm going to be a bit of
a parrot here and repeat myself. The chemistry that is
produced creates the experience, or actually the ability to experience
whatever it is that you want to experience. So brainwave
and treatment is used to help calm people from stressful situations.
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It's used to help people sleep better. Their studies all
over the place. If you go to Google scholar or
there's an app out there called Consensus. If you go
to either of these places and you type in like
brainwave and treatment and stress brainwave and treatment, and anxiety
brainwave and treatment in this or that or whatever, you'll
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likely find hundreds, if not thousands of papers that have
been published with people using some form of entrainment, tapping,
drum beats, whatever, that show a positive or in some
cases a detrimental effect to the psyche and to the
psychology of the experiencer.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
What makes your mind train or program unique then.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
So well, first of all, my intention is unique. My
intention is for people to help themselves unlike a lot
of people, I don't think I'm a brilliant genius, and
if you follow what I say, your life will be better.
I believe you are your own guru, and all of
my work is designed specifically to activate that weapon that
everybody has their brain to their own benefit, because again,
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you are your own guru. I don't really understand. I mean,
maybe this is from forty years of understanding and researching,
but I don't understand how someone who doesn't know me
can come up with a system that's going to help me.
I tried that route for forty forty five years. It
didn't work, and I think that might be a reason
why a lot of people buy a lot of products
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and they don't work. Secret And again I'm not saying
these aren't good systems, but the secret here, and I'll
give everyone the secret for free, is that remember that everybody,
even the big names, can only create a product based
on their own experience. They're not you. They have different parents,
different upbringing, different beliefs. All these things are different. So
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if something I say or someone else says resonates with you,
before you take action on it, I would suggest you
reinterpret it, reimagine it, make it your own, and if
you still resonate with it, that's when you act on it.
I believe that will give you the best chance of success.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So no more cookie cutter, No more cookie cutter. How
do you measure changes in the brain.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Well, there's a couple of ways that I do it.
When I'm doing deep research on myself, I hook myself
up to an elector a cephalogram, which measures brain weigh activity.
I could go even further and get blood work done
and check out different chemistries in my body before and after,
but really the best way I have found is just
by doing it and letting people do it, and then
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they report back what they experience. The thing is even
tail and all, which is very popular for muscle aches
and headaches. I believe with the FDA at the time,
it took three studies that proved above placebo to be
able to make a medical claim. I believe it took
them twelve studies to get three that showed above placebo.
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So I'm not a giant fan of research papers. I mean,
there's been a couple done on my work, and those
I'm a fan of because they talk about how great
they are, but in reality, I think it's the personal
experience of the user that matters more than scientific research.
The research is good for to establish safety and maybe
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protocols of usage, but ultimately it's your personal experience that
matters more than it matters if a mouse reacted nicely,
or if somebody else in Utah, you know, and you're
in Florida, their experience is never going to be the
same as yours. For the reasons I mentioned earlier.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Can entrainment improve focus and creativity?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
It does for me. That's some of the main things
that it can help with is focusing creativity. A lot
of business people use it to help them figure their
way out of issues and problems. Part of the reason
why we have problems with focusing creativity is we get
in the way of ourselves, so we start thinking too much,
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we start questioning ourselves too much. It's important to be
able to turn off one part of the brain and
activate another part of the brain when these circumstances come up,
so we have a better chance of accomplishing our task.
Here's an example. Athletes who are particularly good at what
they do will continually tell people, well, I don't really
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think about it, I just do it. They're not getting
in their own way. They're in you know what's called
flow or the zone. This is what we try to
do within tradement, when it's properly engineered, we try to
put you into that zone state so that stuff just happens.
It's not like you even know how it's happening, but
it's not important. It's like driving a car. I don't
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need to know how to fix a car because there's
mechanics I can call. I just know I have to
know how to drive the car. That's really all I
need to know.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well, it's time for us to take a station break,
Maury and I will return very shortly, so don't you
go away. This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission evolution
dot org. Does sound and train the brain with? Is
this hour discussing brainwaven trainment is Moriy zakhovich is website
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Mind Trainer dashpro dot com. Maury does sound influence consciousness?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Not at all surprised considering I create audio systems primarily,
are you surprised to hear that? I would tell you
that sound does not affect anything. Here's why there's no
such thing as sound doesn't exist. It's a hallucination. You're
not even hearing me. Now, if you put your hand
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on your neck when you talk, you will feel vibration.
Sound in its earliest stages is nothing more than vibratory energy.
Your computer speaker, your phone speaker, your your television. However,
you're watching this now and listening to it is creating
vibratory patterns. If you put your hand in front of
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the speaker of what you're listening to, you will feel
the vibration. As I speak. Your brain interprets that noise,
that energy, that vibration, and it creates the illusion of sound.
It literally translates the vibration into emotion, into intellectual, into
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any form that is necessary for it to make sense
for you. So that old line if a tree, and
you can impress people at parties with this. Now, if
a tree falls in the forest and no one's there
to hear, it doesn't make a noise. Well, now you
know the answer is no. If a tree falls in
the forest and someone is there to hear, it doesn't
make a noise, the answer is still no. It makes vibration.
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And if something is there to interpret that vibration, that
gets translated by the listener into something we call sound.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
That opens up a whole new bucket of worms about
our senses versus everything is frequency, doesn't it. So sure
is there a link between brain waves and spirituality?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
So spirituality is an interesting term because I think there's
as many people on the planet Earth as there are
definitions for the term spirituality. Thought to me, as a scientist,
thought is the root of spirituality. People interpret things is
spiritual or not spiritual, or good or bad or indifferent.
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So it depends on the person. Really, it's not a general,
you know, one size fits all kind of question. That
being said, it affects brainwave activity, which affects chemistry. Everyone's
going to know that inside out by the end of this,
and that influences how we think. You gond have three
people on an airplane going up and they're all going
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to parachute, and one of them, when they're at you know,
is can't wait for the airplane to hit altitude so
they can jump. They are so excited. The other person
just got a phone call from the office. Can't wait
to land. He's totally lost the entire love of jumping
because a major problem just occurred at the office. And
then the third one is taking off the parachute because
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they decided, you know what, I looked out the window.
That's way too high to be jumping out of an airplane.
I'm going to ride the airplane down, thank you very much.
Exactly the same stimulus, three completely different responses. So your
question is kind of the same line. It really depends
on the individual how they define spirituality and then how
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it affects them, because how you think and your expectations
can have a lot to do with how you perceive
and how you experience brainwave entrainment, just like it influences
how you experience your life.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So given that, are you saying that the results of
your system are going to vary individual to individual drastically?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
It could be drastic. Yeah. I have series of testimonials
from clients that you would think are from say, ten
different products, and they're from the same product. Because the
thing is, whatever I'm doing is targeting your brain, and
your brain has its own coding, its own programming, its
own experience way of interpreting things. For me, quantum physics,
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at the most basic level says nothing exists until it's observed. Well,
as humans don't just see something, we define it, we give,
we give it meaning. So that means that you and
I gold that could be looking at the same thing.
We could be looking at a microphone, for instance, if
we're in the same room and we're looking at the
same microphone, but you would see it differently than I
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see it. You would describe it differently than I describe it.
Does that mean that there's actually two microphones there, even
though we both only see one. I would answer that question, Yes,
it means there's two microphones there, because your definition has
created a definition meaning in your universe mine. In my universe,
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words mean different things to you that they do to me.
There's so many differences. I think we're fooled into thinking
we all coexist in the same universe because we see
each other and we walk and it's excused me, I'm
in your way. I am sorry. So we think we're
in the same universe. What I believe is going on
is that we're actually in different universes that occasionally rub
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up against each other. So right now, your universe in
my universe is rubbing up against each other. In a
few hours, they won't be anymore. Your life will go on,
I'll be relatively unaware of what's going on in your life.
My life will go on. You'll be relatively unaware of
what's going on in my life. Since I've adopted this
kind of a way of thinking, I can tell you
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that I don't judge anymore. I don't wait for people
to stop talking so I can tell them how wrong
they are about certain things. My life has become much calmer,
much more sedate, much happier because now I understand that
everybody sees everything in terms of their own life and
experience their own universe. I see things in terms of
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my life, experience my own universe, So that means they're
always right and I'm never wrong.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
So with all this variance, how can you judge results
with your system?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
So with all the variability that's involved from a psychoactive standpoint,
from a physiological standpoint, we tend to react very similarly.
We may interpret those reactions and the feelings and the
sensations we get differently, but the actual biological physiological results
are very very similar. So certain vibrational patterns will elicit
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certain responses in anybody's brain. How that gets interpreted, how
that gets translated, how that is given meaning is up
to the individual. That's where the it branches off. You
could look at it this way. We're all kind of
like part of the trunk of a tree, and then
our psychology is the branches. So each one of us
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has our own branch where we branch off onto this
or branch off onto that, but we all kind of
start from the same beginning.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Can you your system reduce stress and anxiety?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I'm not allowed to make medical claims, but I can
tell you that there is a ton of people out
there who've written me testimonials to that effect. So yeah,
I would say so, and in my own life I
can tell you that as well.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
How does that work if it affects everybody differently? Is
there a particular frequency or entrainment that promotes reduction and
stress and anxiety?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
There are specific frequencies that people can use. I incorporate
I have different types of technology, some of which incorporate vocalizations,
and that's one way to guide the energy that is
created and brought up using these types of recordings. There's
different techniques. There's meditative techniques, there's hypnotic techniques, there's something
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I call triliminal techniques. All of these different techniques help
to subtly influence the mind into certain thought patterns. But
ultimately everything is designed to help people to help themselves,
so we do have certain commonalities. There are certain things like,
for instance, I'm talking a lot, sorry about that, So
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a lot of people would say, oh, this guy's in
beta for sure. First of all, we're in all brainwave active,
all brainwave states at the same time. Different regions of
our brain are firing at different states all the time.
When I am more active like this, thought wise, my
brainwave patterns tend to be slower. The last time I
was measured, I was dominant actually in delta frequencies. I
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wasn't sleeping. And people talk about delta being the sleep frequency. Well,
delta is a specific frequency within sleep and it's very important.
But actually alpha, theta, even beta sometimes are features of
your sleep cycle. So there's a lot of misinformation out there.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Does the intention of the individual when they start using
your system, does that affect where it works for them?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Oh, that's really good question, and I would say the
answer is one hundred percent yes. As a matter of fact,
people who want to prove my work doesn't work can
easily do so experientially by simply trying my stuff and
going well, nothing happened for me, because it's very easy
to fight off the effects. And if you go in
with the intention that you want to prove it's woo woo,
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that'll happen because that's your intention. If you have as
an intention you're going to be calm and cool and collected,
you're more likely to be calm, cool and collected if
you're going to be more If you're going with the
intention to be creative or problem solving, you're more likely
to be creative and problem solving. And it doesn't matter
the frequency that you're being trained to, even though there
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might be some frequencies that tend to be more dominant
when most people are problem solving or when most people
are creative or most people are being active.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
So do you change the frequencies based on the goal?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I changed the frequencies. A lot of my recording systems
don't just deal with one frequency, so they deal with
multiple frequencies. And the reason for that is that, ultimately
it's your brain that does all the heavy lifting. My
work is just kind of making the bed for you.
You still have to get in and go to sleep.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
So sleep, speaking of sleep, Speaking of sleep, how does
the quality of sleep. How is that impacted by your system?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Well, okay, so I do have programs specifically for sleep.
I will tell you my experience. I lost both my
parents a couple of years ago. I'm sorry, thank you,
And if I get a little choked up, just so
you'll know, I'm you know, But what happened was for
years my brother and I took turns going to their
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house to help take care of them, and through that
time I neglected my business quite a bit. Obviously, half
of my life was spent there or I wasn't able
to work. I had the stress of watching them dwindle away.
I had the stress of my business having some problems
at the time, Thankfully not anymore. I had tons of stress,
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so much so that I was actually yelling. You can
imagine with my voice. If you were lying next to
me and it was the middle of the night and
I yelled like really loudly, you might have a heart attack. Well,
my wife almost had heart attacks for me yelling. I
was even acting out. So normally in sleep it's healthy
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to have dreams, even nightmare sometimes, but we have something
called sleep paralysis that stops us from acting out and
speaking out. I had no sleep paralysis going on at all.
I was punching the air. I actually punched my wife
a couple of times. When she told me that, I said,
this is not acceptable. I was like this close to
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getting an air and sleeping in the basement. So just
so I could protect her, I designed to our sleep
recording for myself. When I sleep. Now I talk in
my sleep a little bit, but it's calm. I don't
act out at all. I sleep much better. So that's
my experience. And again I have systems designed to help
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people do that. But again it's to help people to
do that. It's not making a claim that it does that.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
So you're setting up the optimum frequency for a particular issue,
but it's up to the individual's intention to use that
for whatever they're going.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
To yeah, and also to use it consistently. Think of
it like going to a health club. How many people
buy a health club membership and never use it, or
they go once a month or whatever. You know, they
feel it's enough to own a membership, they don't actually
have to go. It's the same thing with brainwaven trainment.
I look at the brain like a muscle. So if
we use it regularly and consistently. It's we're likely to
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be strong. And the other thing is if you go
to a health club and let's say you lift weights
and you run, then that doesn't mean after a year
you're just going to be able to lift more weight
and run more. It means anything that was those muscle
groups can do, they will also be able to do better,
like carrying groceries, like going for walks.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Like we're going to have to take another station break,
Maury and I will be no problem. Maury and I
will be right back to continue our discussion, So please
stay right there. This is Mission Evolution, Mission evolution dot org.
What if I want to heal? This is Mission Evolution,
Mission evolution dot org. With this discussing brain rain brain
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enhancement is Maris Zakhovich his website mind trainer, dashpro dot com. Maury,
what role does frequency play in healing?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Well, there's a guy that some of you may have
heard of by the name of Nikola Tesla, and he
proposed that at some point all healing will be vibrationally based.
There's lots of theories out there that says that illness
is nothing more than misaligned vibratory patterns coming from cell groups,
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and if you can train those cells back into a healthy,
functional state, the illness will go away. You can kind
of look at it, and again I'm just quoting Tesla here,
but you can look at it this way. Let's say
you have a stagnant pond. There's a pretty good chance
you're gonna have mosquitoes, because that's an ideal spot for
mosquitoes to breed. Now, I take that pond and at
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the north end, I cut an opening, and the south
end I cut an opening, and I lead it to
a river, and the river is now pouring water through
the waters moving. Well, the mosquitoes will just go away
because they can't live in that area anymore. Because the
water's moving, it's not stagnant anymore. So that's the idea
behind vibrational healing is that you're literally creating a date,
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not where you're actually curing a disease or a condition,
but where you're creating a situation or a state where
that condition can no longer exist. That's kind of what
it comes down to. Now, on a more scientific, less
theoretical way of thinking of it, you could look at
it this way. We are human beings and we are
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conscious beings. So that means we're aware of what's happening
around us. If we have an intention, that intention doesn't
bring magic, but it brings activity. It brings action. We
start reading more books, we make phone calls, we talk
to more people. Certain things start happening in our lives
that we don't realize had happened before, or would have
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happened before. If you look, you know, and to go
a little more into the real world. If you kind
of look at the literature on meditation, there's lots of
scientific literature that says people who meditate tend to have
better comes from illness and surgery, they tend to recover faster.
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This is not me making a medical claim. Go look
it up. There's tons of papers out there that say this.
The thing about it is, I've got a doctor, doctor
dal Brettison, if anyone knows who he might be, he's
one of the top Alzheimer's researchers. He called my work
meditation on steroids. So you can kind of make the
connection if you'd like to, from there. I couldn't meditate
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when I was depressed. I would keep judging myself and
asking myself as this working am I supposed to feel
this way? Am I feeling anything? This kind of gets
you to meditate without any need any lessons, any writing,
any studying, any training. So I would agree with him
that it's meditation on steroids without the negative effects of steroids.
Of course.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
So how do you differentiate science from pseudoscience?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
How do you define pseudoscience?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Well, that's always a question, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah, that's really the question, because if you're really saying
how do you differentiate between science and woo woo, we're
using pseudoscience as a more intellectual way of saying woo woo.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I wouldn't know they have. Usually when people are talking
about pseudoscience, they're trying to invalidate something that hasn't been
scientifically proven.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
So brainwaven treatment is proven. It's all over the place.
I told you you'd find hundreds of thousands of papers
talking about frequency, talking about pulse tones, talking about binural beats,
talking about all these types of things. There's tons of
research on this. The problem is people don't think to
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look it up. If they haven't heard about it, if
their doctor doesn't know anything about it, they tend to
not believe in it. And that's sad because there's a
lot of things out there that are relatively innocuous. You know,
they don't really there's not really a big downside to
a lot of things, side effects, that kind of thing
that might be able to help them to live a
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more fulfilled life if they'd only open their eyes and
open their ears and do a little research, you know.
And I'm not promoting my stuff. I'm saying there's lots
of stuff out there, so open your minds, open your eyes,
open the possibilities. You know. Shakespeare said something like there's
more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of
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in your philosophy, and that basically says that just because
you don't see things doesn't mean they don't exist. There's theories,
quantum theories now that say there's eight different levels of awareness,
not three, like not depth, height, you know, all these things.
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There's eight. I believe it's an infinite number of dimensions. Actually,
not three. I believe it's infinite. So when you think
of it that way, now look around you in the
room and take note of what you're seeing and what
you're observing, and then imagine all the things that are
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filling up all this what looks like empty space to you,
but it isn't empty. You open yourself up to so
much potential in so many possibilities when you start thinking
that way, instead of just accepting everything for what you
think it is, or what you've been told it is,
or what you've been taught it is by your teachers,
and you know your parents and whoever else might have
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influence over how you feel or how you think.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
What results do your users commonly report?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
I have testimonials for all kinds of things. I have testimonials.
I have a testimonial from a woman who had a
stroke and credits my work to bringing her back from
the stroke. I have a testimonial from a family in
the UK. One of their sons, I think it was
in his twenties, autistic, non responsive. Then they have a
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younger son as well, and they were in tears telling
me how their kid asked daddy to read them a book.
Never did that before.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
And that's after.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Less stress, more creativity, losing weight, quitting bad habits, doing
more exercise, cleaning their attic. I mean, again, your brain
is the real powerhouse here right. My work is just
stimulating it. You can kind of look at it this way.
Let's speak English for a moment, for the people out
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there who are tired and want to lie down from
all this science you talk. So you buy a house,
you live in it for fifteen years. It came with
a beautiful wall unit, absolutely gorgeous wall unit, and you
kept it there because you liked it. And twenty years
later you decide, you know what, I'm redecorating. Time to
get rid of this wall unit. So you move the
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wall unit and there's a door behind it. That's what
brain waven trainment does. It moves something that's in the
way and it lets you see something that you never
saw before.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Is the brain capable of rewiring itself permanently? I mean,
can these effects be permanent?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
I think with regular use you can make long lasting changes.
But like exercise, it's a matter of doing the right
things over long periods of time, just like doing wrong
things over the long period of time will cause problems.
It kind of goes both ways. The thing about the
brain is over much we know or think we know.
Because I call it understanding, I don't really know anything.
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I just have what I call it current understanding. So
I believe we know less about the brain than we
know about our planet, that we know about the ocean,
that we know about we just scratch the surface the
cortical layer, if you will, of the brain. We don't
know anything about the brain. We have theory, we have probabilities,
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We have things that look like they make sense, so
we accept them. But then we develop a new tool,
we develop a new way to measure something or to
see something, and all of a sudden, our beliefs change,
our facts change, making them not facts in the first place.
So some questions don't have answers, not because I don't
know the answer, but because I believe I don't think
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anybody knows the answer.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Can in trainment help We've talked about this, but can
it in trainment help permanently overcome trauma and addiction or
does it just kind of refocus you temporarily.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
That again, is making a claim, and I hesitate to
do that. I'll go back to my muscle description of
the brain, saying that if you exercise that muscle, it's
going to keep it strong. If you stop exercising, you
run a risk. It's kind of like I used to
smoke cigarettes, I used to smoke marijuana, so well, I
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haven't spoked in who knows how long. I don't remember
how long. I was such a different person back then.
But if I were to go back and have a
cigarette now or a joint now, I'd probably go weeks
or months without another one, But then I'd have another one,
thinking well I had one, it's not a big deal,
and before you knew it, I'd be addicted again. So
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I think these changes are not something like a magic
bullet that just changes something and that's it has changed now.
I think it helps you to inspire change, but you
have to work to keep that change going. I don't
have enough, you know, faith in myself that if I
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stopped using my entrainment daily or at least four or
five times a week that I couldn't honestly tell you
I would be confident that my depression wouldn't come back.
After time. It might, but I mean, I get such
pleasure at a listening, why would I stop in anyway?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
So, how does your technology align with neuroscience research?
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Well, it aligns rather well with neuroscience research. There are
those who actually included, like I was mentioning doctor brenn
Is in the Alzheimer's guy. But it depends on the mind.
It depends on the scientist. It depends on their philosophies
and their beliefs. You know, doctors and scientists are an
insert are an interesting breed because if I go up
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to them with a problem, and I go to a
gastroine testinologist, they're going to come up with a problem
with my gut that caused it. A neuroscientist or doctor
may come up with a neurology based solution, you know,
hematologists may be something to do with my blood. So
everybody tends to kind of pigeonhole whatever they think, and however,
they think within their own guidelines, within their own personal
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restraints or medical restraints, or belief systems or whatever. So
it's again, it's another question that's very difficult to answer
because one neural scientist will give you one answer. Another
one will tell you brainway of a treatment is useless.
Others will tell you it shows promise, but we don't
know for sure. It's not a suit of science. It's
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not fake. There's lots of research out there showing that
it has effect, showing that it has positive effect. But
you know, again, much like the FDA with TYL and all,
I think what tells a story. More is by being
able to be in a situation where you can try
something and make up your own mind. I tell my
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clients sometimes I say, you know, that's a fantastic question,
but you're asking the wrong person. You should be asking
the person you see in the mirror every morning when
you brush your teeth, because ultimately, again, you are your
own guru. You're the only person who truly has the answers.
I could have a pill that I designed. You're going
to live to be one hundred and fifty. You're going
to be totally mobile the whole time. You're going to
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be totally alert and awake and having fun. And when
it's time to go, you're going to smile and go, hey, everybody,
I had a fun time seeing in whatever comes next.
But you still have to take the pill. If you
don't take the pill, it's not going to help you.
That means that you're the one responsible for your own happiness.
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That's not a bad thing. That's a wonderful thing because
if you're responsible, that means you have power. If you
have power, you can make the right decisions that get
you to where you want to go. And that's what
I love about this business because it's not me telling
you what to do. It's me helping you develop a
muscle that will help you to help yourself.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Which takes us back to you're an individual intent, doesn't it?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
So it's a pretty flexible format.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Apparently it's incredibly flexible. Different people will get different results
because they have different brains and different needs. It's flexible
because it gives results usually beyond what is intended. I
have systems that have various purposes, but I have found
in the testimonials that people who use them for that
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purpose tend to get more than they bargained for.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Well, we're going to bargain for another station. Rag, please
stay with us as next, Maury and I will explore
brainwaves and manifestation. This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission
evolution dot org. Can I get help with manifesting? This
is Evolution Mission evolution dot org. We're continuing our discussion
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with Maury's Ekhovich his website mind Trainer dashpro dot com.
And now Maury, there's the question, can you help me
with manifestation? And if so, how you.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Can help yourself with manifestation using brainwaven trainment to open
the energy in you towards manifestation. So there's actually frequencies.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
See.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
One of the ways I do my work is I
find people who are successful at whatever it is I
want to help people with, and then I look for
research in what kind of people, how do they live,
what do they do, what are their habits, all these
kinds of things, and then I figure out the dominant
brainwave patterns that they're likely experiencing when they are experiencing
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these peak performance states, and then I create systems that
train their the user's brain to achieve those same states
through the frequency following response the blah blah blah blah
blah blah by and then the brain starts following the
similar frequency. Then I incorporate spoken word aspects that help
guide people to solutions that they find for themselves. So manifestation.
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And it's interesting because I just wrote an article. I
don't have it published yet, but I wrote an article
about how your thought patterns influence your existence, so people,
you know, for instance, here's something that's interesting. I was
working on a deal with a company for a long
time and it seemed to never get any traction, but
they were very interested. I had been following political news
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a lot. You know, what's going on in the Canada
and the United States and in Europe and in the
East and everything. And because I thought, you know, I
should know what's going on in the world around me.
I thought it would help me prepare. I could maybe
come up with some products to help people with the
stress and anxiety that they're experiencing. Well, it turns out
I was exposing myself to stress and anxiety. So I
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stopped doing it, like cold Turkey, just stopped YouTube. Is
this close to not giving me any references to politics anymore.
As you know, the algorithms on x, on YouTube, on Instagram, whatever.
If you type in a word you know, Donald Trump
as an example, you will start getting tons of stuff
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about Donald Trump. If you do it about Ukraine, you'll
get tons of stuff about Ukraine. So what I did
was this was occupying my thoughts, It was getting in
the way of my intention, so I cut everything out.
Within three weeks it came through. Is that a coincidence?
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No way. You have to live my life to have
had the experience to be able to tell, you know,
magic most people call it magic or a miracle, But
magic or a miracle is really just science that hasn't
been explained yet, that's all. It's like the other dimensions
that we don't see but are there. Anyway. We don't
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see oxygen, we breathe it though all the time. We
don't see our heart beating, but our heart is beating
all the time. So we have evidence that these things exist,
why not expand that to more things exist. We may
not even be perceiving them. So look around you. You
see your life isn't quite what you want it to be.
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You're a little depressed. Maybe you're not earning money enough.
You're living paycheck to paycheck. If you're lucky, you don't
know where your rent's coming from. All these thoughts manifest
that kind of a destiny because that's your you know.
They say you're subconscious or your conscious mind or your
mind period doesn't judge what you do or think. It
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just gives you what you think. So it turns out
that when we think bad things, we have intense emotion
usually behind those bad things too. So what I tend
to do is I reverse engineer. I'm not that bright,
So what I do is I reverse engineer things that
already exist. So if we have something that brings crap
into your life, and it doesn't you know, like legitimately
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all the time for so many people. That is a
pretty effective technique you have there, But for some reason
people don't think, huh, that's a really effective technique. But
if I change the content, what if I take it
from bad and I turn it into something good, the
same technique should then bring good results. Because with bad
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thinking it brings bad results. It makes logical sense that
with good thinking it would bring good results. So that's
where the brainwave ofven treatment comes in. It alters the
chemistry subtly so that it alters your perception and your
experience around you, so you start seeing things differently. Well,
I took myself away from all that political crap, and
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I feel if I need to know something, I'll know
something will happen. Someone will tell me if I need
to know something. And since then so many things are
coming to a head. And even things that some people
might consider bad are actually good. And again that's a
matter of intention, that's a matter of manifestation. If I
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feel pain in my knee, is that a bad thing? Like?
Well that if you felt pain in your knee after
this conversation and Please don't, because then you'll blame me.
But if you did, would you think that's a good
thing or a bad thing?
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Well, the way I look at that sort of thing,
is this a nice message for me to pay attention
to something which is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
There you go, That's exactly how you should look at it.
But most people would go, why me, I have to
go for a walk. Now, I have to do this,
I have to do that. Usually these things are indications.
You know, you misstep going up with an escalator or stairs,
or you bump into something because you're staring at your
phone or whatever. Or you almost get into an accident
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because you were sending a text and you just almost
hit a car, but you stopped. These are all messages.
These are all good things. Pain is a good thing,
believe it or not. Pain tells you something's amiss and
you need to think you need to do something about it.
What if you broke your leg or you broke your
arm and it didn't hurt. You may not go to
a hospital, You may not get it treated. Maybe you
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never walk again as a result of that. Maybe you
get in an infection, maybe you die from that infection.
But the pain saved your life, Like you said, it
was a good thing.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
I understand that. You know, there are people that don't
live very long because they're born without pain receptors. So
I get your point there. So let's talk a bit
a little bit about hereditary of the you know, heredity
of these patterns. You know, we come into a family,
and of course it's nature nurture question, right, But do
we inherit some of these things? And if we do,
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you know, these brain waves, these ways of thinking, and
if we do, can your method shift.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
That well, there would be I mean, it would be
reasonable to assume that there could be a genetic predisposition
to certain kinds of conditions, certain brain anomaies, neurochemical balances
that are passed on genetically. That being said, there's still
a process, there's still a methodology. There's still a rhyme
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and or reason as to wine neurons behave the way
they do what neural chemistry is supposed to do. I
believe that you can tweak it, just like going you know,
you're driving your car and the engine's rough and it
idols and it goes back and forth. You go, take it,
get it a tune up, and all of a sudden
it comes out nice and quiet and smooth and running
more efficiently. I believe that's possible for us too. Is
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it something that I can guarantee you? No, I don't
think I can guarantee anything. There's too many factors that
depend on the success of anything. Look if someone's a
diabetic and they're told they're a diabetic and they're given
insulin injections and they say, here's how to inject the insulin,
and all they do is eat chocolate bars and cake
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all the time. Is the insulin going to help maybe
a little at the beginning. You know what blows me
away is on television there's always these commercials for antacids,
you know if you've ever seen them. But it shows
people eating usually, you know, some kind of spicy food,
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and then it shows them in a serious discomfort, and
then it shows them pop in a pill or having
a drink of something, and they feel great and they're
eating the crop again. So why aren't they smart enough
to understand that your body is telling you this isn't
good for you. That's why you're getting heart burned. You're
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not getting heart burned just because not for fun. You're
getting it because your body is telling you this food
isn't good for you. Don't eat it anymore. That's why
you get heartburned. In the wild, animals eat a bury
off a tree and get sick. They don't eat that
bury ever. Again, humans invent something to cover up the symptom.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
How can listeners start using mind training? The mind trainer effectively.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
Well, the easiest way to listen. And again, there's nothing
to study, there's nothing to read. There's nothing really to
do other than to put it in an order, very
pair of stereo headphones or bone conduction headphones and lay
back for about half an hour, hit play. You can
even fall asleep. It doesn't make any difference at all
whether you sleep, whether you're awake. That's it. Lie down,
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sit with head support. You know, I've got head support
on this chair here. I could just lean back, close
my eyes, listen to the sounds, listen to my voice.
Whatever is going on in the recording, I don't even
have to listen to it. I don't have to pay
attention to it.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
I can say, is setting your intention before you do
that important for the effect?
Speaker 3 (51:40):
I would say it would be very helpful. Is it important?
I don't think so. I think the brain knows what
it needs, and if you just go in with the
intention that it's going to do whatever it needs to do,
that's enough. You don't need to sit there repeating the
intention over and over and over again. To be honest
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with you, it's my personal belief that hitting play lying
down saying my intention for this session is to relax.
That's it, and then let my mind do whatever it
wants to do. If it goes empty, it goes empty.
If it has millions of thoughts flying through it, it
has millions of thoughts flying through it. I've always had
a problem with people who used to teach me meditation
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because they always said, Maury, when it's time for you
to meditate, if thoughts come into your mind, tell yourself.
I respect you, but this is my quiet meditation time.
I will deal with you later. I'll think about you later,
but now this is my meditation time. I have a
real problem with that, because if you're meditating properly in
my world, at least in my universe, if the thought
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comes to you, that's because you're meditating and it came
to you. Don't push it away, don't ignore it, don't
try to empty your mind. That's my view. My view
is ever feels right. If the thought comes by like
a flicker of an image and it disappears, great. If
it comes by and it inspires you to think about it, great.
If nothing comes by, great, if like if anything happens,
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do whatever you're inspired to do at that moment. Great.
But don't follow a pattern that says empty your mind,
Empty your mind, empty your mind.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
So it's about that time in the program when I
get to ask you morey, what is your mission?
Speaker 3 (53:31):
So I don't have kids, My mission is to leave
a tool behind that can help others to help themselves.
That's really what.
Speaker 2 (53:41):
Is What do you see is the future of mind technology?
How do you see it evolving?
Speaker 3 (53:48):
We are mind, Our bodies are mechanical shells that mobilize us.
The future of mind technology is the future of the
mind itself. It's just like AI. AI is really useful
if it's paired with HI human intelligence. If it's just
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used as a crutch or as a replacement for thinking,
we're all going to turn into mental blobs.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
Well, unfortunately we are out of time. Mari. Thank you
so much for coming on the show and sharing your wisdom,
and thank all of you for joining us on Mission Evolution.
Our guest this hour has been more Zakhovich. He's the
creator of mind Trainer and a leading voice in the
field of brainwaven trainment. You can learn more about his
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groundbreaking work at mind Trainer dashpro dot com. This has
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host of Mission Evolution, Miss Gwildawiyeka.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Welcome to Mission Evolution, where we share the latest discoveries
that shape the evolution of consciousness. I'm your host, Gildawyeka.
One of the key to unlocking human potential lies within
the rhythms of the mind itself. Today's guest, Marizolkovich, founder
of mind trainer dashpro dot com, is a pie in
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the science of brain wave and trainment, the art and
technology of using sound frequencies to harmonize the mind, elevate awareness,
and expand consciousness. Join us as we explore how brainwave
technology can reduce stress, enhance creativity, and even help bridge
the gap between science and spirituality. This is Mission Evolution,
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where science meet spirit. Maury, thank you so much for
joining us on Mission Evolution.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
It's my absolute pleasure to be here. Welda, thanks for inviting.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Me my pleasure. So what the first What first inspired
you to look into brainwave and trainment.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Let's see, that's not hard to think about. Actually, how
to say it is a little harder. How about forty
years of wanting to be dead? That's kind of a
SoundBite for you. I basically was depressed and super depressed
my entire life that I'm just over forty years now,
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up until the point where I came up with the
brainwave and trainment technologies and techniques that I now share
with the world that I was using for myself to
actually change the chemistry in my brain. I kind of
found that, you know, I was like most people, I
would think, trying things to feel better and not really succeeding.
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I tried drugs, I tried alcohol, I tried women. There
were moments of joy with all of those, but for
the most part, it was hell on Earth. Made things
much worse, and I wasn't being fair to the people
I was with either, But of course, being depressed, I
didn't care. I was selfish. I only cared about myself.
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Started realizing when those didn't work that I needed to
find some other way. So I started seeing other kinds
of doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists, know people to who top breathing techniques,
emdr hypnosis, meditation, you know, all the array of things
that I could find. By the way, all of these
things are fantastic, they just weren't good for me. And
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at that point I decided, we're talking decades into my research.
At this point, I kind of thought, you know, I
need to understand what's going on because at this point
I've tried to end my life six times that I
can remember. Yes, I probably blocked out others, but I
kind of realized that if I truly wanted to die,
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once would have been enough. So when I found that
I couldn't find a way to die, I had to
find a way to live. And that's really what set
me off on this whole discovery mission. Eventually I came
across a thing called the paper Internet. Can you guess
what I'm describing when I call something the paper Internet? No,
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I really library, the library. So for some of you
who don't know what a library is, google it you'll
see what it is. They have. It used to be
a building with books. If you don't know what a
book is, google that too. So basically what happened was.
I started reading because I wanted to understand what was
going on. So I was reading psychology books and journals
and I was reading sociology, quantum physics, neurobiology, neural chemistry.
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And the end result was I got this understanding that
my mood, how I felt, was a direct result of
chemical production in my brain. And it turns out that
I wasn't far off. So what happens is we have thoughts.
These thoughts produced brainwave activity. This brainwave activity is basically
neuronal actions. So your neurons which make up your brain,
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start pulsing, but they pulse like a light switch going
on and off, not like a heart. And depending on
how many times they pulse per second and how and
the location in the brain where they are, that dictates
the kind kind of chemistry they release. And much like
a recipe, if you have a really good recipe and
you follow it, you can make something that tastes beautiful.
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If you don't follow it and you don't have all
the ingredients, you can make something that tastes rather horrible.
And that's kind of what I was doing. I was
creating all this bad chemistry that was making my life
taste like crap when I realized, Sorry, go.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Ahead, let's back up a little bit. What exactly is
brainwaven trainment?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
So I can tell everyone out there that there's an
excellent chance that you've all experienced brainwave in trainment, whether
you know what it means or not. So brainwaven trainment
is when we make the neurons your brains, which pulse
frequencies all the time. They're pulsing usually between one and
one hundred, sometimes more times per second. What brainwaven trainment
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does is it allows us to kind of guide the
brain into specific frequencies in a dominant way so that
more cells create the exact kind of chemistry we're looking for,
and that helps us to create a different effect.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It sounds like it could be misused if you're not careful,
couldn't it?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I suppose it could. There was some stuff that I
was experimenting with many years ago that I actually took
the hard drive out of my computer and destroyed it
because I didn't want anyone else to be able to
recreate what I accidentally came up with because it made
me feel like crap. For three weeks. I felt like garbage,
and I could have done something to change it, but
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I needed to know exactly how bad the effects were,
so it took three weeks for me to normalize. It
could be used like that, but in most cases for
it to be effective, it's at a comfortable volume. It's
stereo headphones or bone conduction headphones, laying down with your
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eyes closed. So the possibility of using it for evilness
is not all that probable because people could just stop listening.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Would they have a clue that this is not working
well for me and I need to stop listening during
the yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
It would feel uncomfortable. It could feel like I'm getting
sick or sad, or headache or agitated, these kinds of things.
Because remember, we're affecting brain activity, and it's that activity
that creates the chemistry, and it's the chemistry that creates
your experience.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
So basically that's how it works.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, sorry, I'm sorry, I just wanted to finish the thought.
So what happens is I explained that most people have
experienced it already. So if you've ever listened to music
that you like and you find yourself tapping your toes
mindlessly or popping your head back and forth mindlessly, that's
a form of entrainment. So everybody's experienced it, and I
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apologize for interrupt.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Not a problem. So can brainwave frequencies affect emotional states?
And if so, how.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Well, once again, I'm going to be a bit of
a parrot here and repeat myself. The chemistry that is
produced creates the experience, or actually the ability to experience
whatever it is that you want to experience. So brainwave
and treatment is used to help calm people from stressful situations.
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It's used to help people sleep better. Their studies all
over the place. If you go to Google scholar or
there's an app out there called Consensus. If you go
to either of these places and you type in like
brainwave and treatment and stress brainwave and treatment, and anxiety
brainwave and treatment in this or that or whatever, you'll
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likely find hundreds, if not thousands of papers that have
been published with people using some form of entrainment, tapping,
drum beats, whatever, that show a positive or in some
cases a detrimental effect to the psyche and to the
psychology of the experiencer.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
What makes your mind train or program unique then.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
So well, first of all, my intention is unique. My
intention is for people to help themselves unlike a lot
of people, I don't think I'm a brilliant genius, and
if you follow what I say, your life will be better.
I believe you are your own guru, and all of
my work is designed specifically to activate that weapon that
everybody has their brain to their own benefit, because again,
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you are your own guru. I don't really understand. I mean,
maybe this is from forty years of understanding and researching,
but I don't understand how someone who doesn't know me
can come up with a system that's going to help me.
I tried that route for forty forty five years. It
didn't work, and I think that might be a reason
why a lot of people buy a lot of products
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and they don't work. Secret And again I'm not saying
these aren't good systems, but the secret here, and I'll
give everyone the secret for free, is that remember that everybody,
even the big names, can only create a product based
on their own experience. They're not you. They have different parents,
different upbringing, different beliefs. All these things are different. So
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if something I say or someone else says resonates with you,
before you take action on it, I would suggest you
reinterpret it, reimagine it, make it your own, and if
you still resonate with it, that's when you act on it.
I believe that will give you the best chance of success.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So no more cookie cutter, No more cookie cutter. How
do you measure changes in the brain.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Well, there's a couple of ways that I do it.
When I'm doing deep research on myself, I hook myself
up to an elector a cephalogram, which measures brain weigh activity.
I could go even further and get blood work done
and check out different chemistries in my body before and after,
but really the best way I have found is just
by doing it and letting people do it, and then
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they report back what they experience. The thing is even
tail and all, which is very popular for muscle aches
and headaches. I believe with the FDA at the time,
it took three studies that proved above placebo to be
able to make a medical claim. I believe it took
them twelve studies to get three that showed above placebo.
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So I'm not a giant fan of research papers. I mean,
there's been a couple done on my work, and those
I'm a fan of because they talk about how great
they are, but in reality, I think it's the personal
experience of the user that matters more than scientific research.
The research is good for to establish safety and maybe
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protocols of usage, but ultimately it's your personal experience that
matters more than it matters if a mouse reacted nicely,
or if somebody else in Utah, you know, and you're
in Florida, their experience is never going to be the
same as yours. For the reasons I mentioned earlier.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Can entrainment improve focus and creativity?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
It does for me. That's some of the main things
that it can help with is focusing creativity. A lot
of business people use it to help them figure their
way out of issues and problems. Part of the reason
why we have problems with focusing creativity is we get
in the way of ourselves, so we start thinking too much,
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we start questioning ourselves too much. It's important to be
able to turn off one part of the brain and
activate another part of the brain when these circumstances come up,
so we have a better chance of accomplishing our task.
Here's an example. Athletes who are particularly good at what
they do will continually tell people, well, I don't really
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think about it, I just do it. They're not getting
in their own way. They're in you know what's called
flow or the zone. This is what we try to
do within tradement, when it's properly engineered, we try to
put you into that zone state so that stuff just happens.
It's not like you even know how it's happening, but
it's not important. It's like driving a car. I don't
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need to know how to fix a car because there's
mechanics I can call. I just know I have to
know how to drive the car. That's really all I
need to know.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well, it's time for us to take a station break,
Maury and I will return very shortly, so don't you
go away. This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission evolution
dot org. Does sound and train the brain with? Is
this hour discussing brainwaven trainment is Moriy zakhovich is website
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Mind Trainer dashpro dot com. Maury does sound influence consciousness?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Not at all surprised considering I create audio systems primarily,
are you surprised to hear that? I would tell you
that sound does not affect anything. Here's why there's no
such thing as sound doesn't exist. It's a hallucination. You're
not even hearing me. Now, if you put your hand
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on your neck when you talk, you will feel vibration.
Sound in its earliest stages is nothing more than vibratory energy.
Your computer speaker, your phone speaker, your your television. However,
you're watching this now and listening to it is creating
vibratory patterns. If you put your hand in front of
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the speaker of what you're listening to, you will feel
the vibration. As I speak. Your brain interprets that noise,
that energy, that vibration, and it creates the illusion of sound.
It literally translates the vibration into emotion, into intellectual, into
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any form that is necessary for it to make sense
for you. So that old line if a tree, and
you can impress people at parties with this. Now, if
a tree falls in the forest and no one's there
to hear, it doesn't make a noise. Well, now you
know the answer is no. If a tree falls in
the forest and someone is there to hear, it doesn't
make a noise, the answer is still no. It makes vibration.
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And if something is there to interpret that vibration, that
gets translated by the listener into something we call sound.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
That opens up a whole new bucket of worms about
our senses versus everything is frequency, doesn't it. So sure
is there a link between brain waves and spirituality?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
So spirituality is an interesting term because I think there's
as many people on the planet Earth as there are
definitions for the term spirituality. Thought to me, as a scientist,
thought is the root of spirituality. People interpret things is
spiritual or not spiritual, or good or bad or indifferent.
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So it depends on the person. Really, it's not a general,
you know, one size fits all kind of question. That
being said, it affects brainwave activity, which affects chemistry. Everyone's
going to know that inside out by the end of this,
and that influences how we think. You gond have three
people on an airplane going up and they're all going
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to parachute, and one of them, when they're at you know,
is can't wait for the airplane to hit altitude so
they can jump. They are so excited. The other person
just got a phone call from the office. Can't wait
to land. He's totally lost the entire love of jumping
because a major problem just occurred at the office. And
then the third one is taking off the parachute because
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they decided, you know what, I looked out the window.
That's way too high to be jumping out of an airplane.
I'm going to ride the airplane down, thank you very much.
Exactly the same stimulus, three completely different responses. So your
question is kind of the same line. It really depends
on the individual how they define spirituality and then how
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it affects them, because how you think and your expectations
can have a lot to do with how you perceive
and how you experience brainwave entrainment, just like it influences
how you experience your life.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So given that, are you saying that the results of
your system are going to vary individual to individual drastically?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
It could be drastic. Yeah. I have series of testimonials
from clients that you would think are from say, ten
different products, and they're from the same product. Because the
thing is, whatever I'm doing is targeting your brain, and
your brain has its own coding, its own programming, its
own experience way of interpreting things. For me, quantum physics,
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at the most basic level says nothing exists until it's observed. Well,
as humans don't just see something, we define it, we give,
we give it meaning. So that means that you and
I gold that could be looking at the same thing.
We could be looking at a microphone, for instance, if
we're in the same room and we're looking at the
same microphone, but you would see it differently than I
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see it. You would describe it differently than I describe it.
Does that mean that there's actually two microphones there, even
though we both only see one. I would answer that question, Yes,
it means there's two microphones there, because your definition has
created a definition meaning in your universe mine. In my universe,
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words mean different things to you that they do to me.
There's so many differences. I think we're fooled into thinking
we all coexist in the same universe because we see
each other and we walk and it's excused me, I'm
in your way. I am sorry. So we think we're
in the same universe. What I believe is going on
is that we're actually in different universes that occasionally rub
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up against each other. So right now, your universe in
my universe is rubbing up against each other. In a
few hours, they won't be anymore. Your life will go on,
I'll be relatively unaware of what's going on in your life.
My life will go on. You'll be relatively unaware of
what's going on in my life. Since I've adopted this
kind of a way of thinking, I can tell you
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that I don't judge anymore. I don't wait for people
to stop talking so I can tell them how wrong
they are about certain things. My life has become much calmer,
much more sedate, much happier because now I understand that
everybody sees everything in terms of their own life and
experience their own universe. I see things in terms of
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my life, experience my own universe, So that means they're
always right and I'm never wrong.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
So with all this variance, how can you judge results
with your system?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
So with all the variability that's involved from a psychoactive standpoint,
from a physiological standpoint, we tend to react very similarly.
We may interpret those reactions and the feelings and the
sensations we get differently, but the actual biological physiological results
are very very similar. So certain vibrational patterns will elicit
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certain responses in anybody's brain. How that gets interpreted, how
that gets translated, how that is given meaning is up
to the individual. That's where the it branches off. You
could look at it this way. We're all kind of
like part of the trunk of a tree, and then
our psychology is the branches. So each one of us
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has our own branch where we branch off onto this
or branch off onto that, but we all kind of
start from the same beginning.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Can you your system reduce stress and anxiety?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I'm not allowed to make medical claims, but I can
tell you that there is a ton of people out
there who've written me testimonials to that effect. So yeah,
I would say so, and in my own life I
can tell you that as well.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
How does that work if it affects everybody differently? Is
there a particular frequency or entrainment that promotes reduction and
stress and anxiety?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
There are specific frequencies that people can use. I incorporate
I have different types of technology, some of which incorporate vocalizations,
and that's one way to guide the energy that is
created and brought up using these types of recordings. There's
different techniques. There's meditative techniques, there's hypnotic techniques, there's something
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I call triliminal techniques. All of these different techniques help
to subtly influence the mind into certain thought patterns. But
ultimately everything is designed to help people to help themselves,
so we do have certain commonalities. There are certain things like,
for instance, I'm talking a lot, sorry about that, So
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a lot of people would say, oh, this guy's in
beta for sure. First of all, we're in all brainwave active,
all brainwave states at the same time. Different regions of
our brain are firing at different states all the time.
When I am more active like this, thought wise, my
brainwave patterns tend to be slower. The last time I
was measured, I was dominant actually in delta frequencies. I
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wasn't sleeping. And people talk about delta being the sleep frequency. Well,
delta is a specific frequency within sleep and it's very important.
But actually alpha, theta, even beta sometimes are features of
your sleep cycle. So there's a lot of misinformation out there.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Does the intention of the individual when they start using
your system, does that affect where it works for them?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Oh, that's really good question, and I would say the
answer is one hundred percent yes. As a matter of fact,
people who want to prove my work doesn't work can
easily do so experientially by simply trying my stuff and
going well, nothing happened for me, because it's very easy
to fight off the effects. And if you go in
with the intention that you want to prove it's woo woo,
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that'll happen because that's your intention. If you have as
an intention you're going to be calm and cool and collected,
you're more likely to be calm, cool and collected if
you're going to be more If you're going with the
intention to be creative or problem solving, you're more likely
to be creative and problem solving. And it doesn't matter
the frequency that you're being trained to, even though there
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might be some frequencies that tend to be more dominant
when most people are problem solving or when most people
are creative or most people are being active.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
So do you change the frequencies based on the goal?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I changed the frequencies. A lot of my recording systems
don't just deal with one frequency, so they deal with
multiple frequencies. And the reason for that is that, ultimately
it's your brain that does all the heavy lifting. My
work is just kind of making the bed for you.
You still have to get in and go to sleep.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
So sleep, speaking of sleep, Speaking of sleep, how does
the quality of sleep. How is that impacted by your system?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Well, okay, so I do have programs specifically for sleep.
I will tell you my experience. I lost both my
parents a couple of years ago. I'm sorry, thank you,
And if I get a little choked up, just so
you'll know, I'm you know, But what happened was for
years my brother and I took turns going to their
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house to help take care of them, and through that
time I neglected my business quite a bit. Obviously, half
of my life was spent there or I wasn't able
to work. I had the stress of watching them dwindle away.
I had the stress of my business having some problems
at the time, Thankfully not anymore. I had tons of stress,
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so much so that I was actually yelling. You can
imagine with my voice. If you were lying next to
me and it was the middle of the night and
I yelled like really loudly, you might have a heart attack. Well,
my wife almost had heart attacks for me yelling. I
was even acting out. So normally in sleep it's healthy
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to have dreams, even nightmare sometimes, but we have something
called sleep paralysis that stops us from acting out and
speaking out. I had no sleep paralysis going on at all.
I was punching the air. I actually punched my wife
a couple of times. When she told me that, I said,
this is not acceptable. I was like this close to
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getting an air and sleeping in the basement. So just
so I could protect her, I designed to our sleep
recording for myself. When I sleep. Now I talk in
my sleep a little bit, but it's calm. I don't
act out at all. I sleep much better. So that's
my experience. And again I have systems designed to help
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people do that. But again it's to help people to
do that. It's not making a claim that it does that.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
So you're setting up the optimum frequency for a particular issue,
but it's up to the individual's intention to use that
for whatever they're going.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
To yeah, and also to use it consistently. Think of
it like going to a health club. How many people
buy a health club membership and never use it, or
they go once a month or whatever. You know, they
feel it's enough to own a membership, they don't actually
have to go. It's the same thing with brainwaven trainment.
I look at the brain like a muscle. So if
we use it regularly and consistently. It's we're likely to
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be strong. And the other thing is if you go
to a health club and let's say you lift weights
and you run, then that doesn't mean after a year
you're just going to be able to lift more weight
and run more. It means anything that was those muscle
groups can do, they will also be able to do better,
like carrying groceries, like going for walks.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Like we're going to have to take another station break,
Maury and I will be no problem. Maury and I
will be right back to continue our discussion, So please
stay right there. This is Mission Evolution, Mission evolution dot org.
What if I want to heal? This is Mission Evolution,
Mission evolution dot org. With this discussing brain rain brain
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enhancement is Maris Zakhovich his website mind trainer, dashpro dot com. Maury,
what role does frequency play in healing?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Well, there's a guy that some of you may have
heard of by the name of Nikola Tesla, and he
proposed that at some point all healing will be vibrationally based.
There's lots of theories out there that says that illness
is nothing more than misaligned vibratory patterns coming from cell groups,
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and if you can train those cells back into a healthy,
functional state, the illness will go away. You can kind
of look at it, and again I'm just quoting Tesla here,
but you can look at it this way. Let's say
you have a stagnant pond. There's a pretty good chance
you're gonna have mosquitoes, because that's an ideal spot for
mosquitoes to breed. Now, I take that pond and at
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the north end, I cut an opening, and the south
end I cut an opening, and I lead it to
a river, and the river is now pouring water through
the waters moving. Well, the mosquitoes will just go away
because they can't live in that area anymore. Because the
water's moving, it's not stagnant anymore. So that's the idea
behind vibrational healing is that you're literally creating a date,
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not where you're actually curing a disease or a condition,
but where you're creating a situation or a state where
that condition can no longer exist. That's kind of what
it comes down to. Now, on a more scientific, less
theoretical way of thinking of it, you could look at
it this way. We are human beings and we are
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conscious beings. So that means we're aware of what's happening
around us. If we have an intention, that intention doesn't
bring magic, but it brings activity. It brings action. We
start reading more books, we make phone calls, we talk
to more people. Certain things start happening in our lives
that we don't realize had happened before, or would have
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happened before. If you look, you know, and to go
a little more into the real world. If you kind
of look at the literature on meditation, there's lots of
scientific literature that says people who meditate tend to have
better comes from illness and surgery, they tend to recover faster.
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This is not me making a medical claim. Go look
it up. There's tons of papers out there that say this.
The thing about it is, I've got a doctor, doctor
dal Brettison, if anyone knows who he might be, he's
one of the top Alzheimer's researchers. He called my work
meditation on steroids. So you can kind of make the
connection if you'd like to, from there. I couldn't meditate
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when I was depressed. I would keep judging myself and
asking myself as this working am I supposed to feel
this way? Am I feeling anything? This kind of gets
you to meditate without any need any lessons, any writing,
any studying, any training. So I would agree with him
that it's meditation on steroids without the negative effects of steroids.
Of course.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
So how do you differentiate science from pseudoscience?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
How do you define pseudoscience?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Well, that's always a question, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah, that's really the question, because if you're really saying
how do you differentiate between science and woo woo, we're
using pseudoscience as a more intellectual way of saying woo woo.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I wouldn't know they have. Usually when people are talking
about pseudoscience, they're trying to invalidate something that hasn't been
scientifically proven.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
So brainwaven treatment is proven. It's all over the place.
I told you you'd find hundreds of thousands of papers
talking about frequency, talking about pulse tones, talking about binural beats,
talking about all these types of things. There's tons of
research on this. The problem is people don't think to
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look it up. If they haven't heard about it, if
their doctor doesn't know anything about it, they tend to
not believe in it. And that's sad because there's a
lot of things out there that are relatively innocuous. You know,
they don't really there's not really a big downside to
a lot of things, side effects, that kind of thing
that might be able to help them to live a
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more fulfilled life if they'd only open their eyes and
open their ears and do a little research, you know.
And I'm not promoting my stuff. I'm saying there's lots
of stuff out there, so open your minds, open your eyes,
open the possibilities. You know. Shakespeare said something like there's
more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of
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in your philosophy, and that basically says that just because
you don't see things doesn't mean they don't exist. There's theories,
quantum theories now that say there's eight different levels of awareness,
not three, like not depth, height, you know, all these things.
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There's eight. I believe it's an infinite number of dimensions. Actually,
not three. I believe it's infinite. So when you think
of it that way, now look around you in the
room and take note of what you're seeing and what
you're observing, and then imagine all the things that are
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filling up all this what looks like empty space to you,
but it isn't empty. You open yourself up to so
much potential in so many possibilities when you start thinking
that way, instead of just accepting everything for what you
think it is, or what you've been told it is,
or what you've been taught it is by your teachers,
and you know your parents and whoever else might have
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influence over how you feel or how you think.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
What results do your users commonly report?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
I have testimonials for all kinds of things. I have testimonials.
I have a testimonial from a woman who had a
stroke and credits my work to bringing her back from
the stroke. I have a testimonial from a family in
the UK. One of their sons, I think it was
in his twenties, autistic, non responsive. Then they have a
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younger son as well, and they were in tears telling
me how their kid asked daddy to read them a book.
Never did that before.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
And that's after.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Less stress, more creativity, losing weight, quitting bad habits, doing
more exercise, cleaning their attic. I mean, again, your brain
is the real powerhouse here right. My work is just
stimulating it. You can kind of look at it this way.
Let's speak English for a moment, for the people out
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there who are tired and want to lie down from
all this science you talk. So you buy a house,
you live in it for fifteen years. It came with
a beautiful wall unit, absolutely gorgeous wall unit, and you
kept it there because you liked it. And twenty years
later you decide, you know what, I'm redecorating. Time to
get rid of this wall unit. So you move the
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wall unit and there's a door behind it. That's what
brain waven trainment does. It moves something that's in the
way and it lets you see something that you never
saw before.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Is the brain capable of rewiring itself permanently? I mean,
can these effects be permanent?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
I think with regular use you can make long lasting changes.
But like exercise, it's a matter of doing the right
things over long periods of time, just like doing wrong
things over the long period of time will cause problems.
It kind of goes both ways. The thing about the
brain is over much we know or think we know.
Because I call it understanding, I don't really know anything.
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I just have what I call it current understanding. So
I believe we know less about the brain than we
know about our planet, that we know about the ocean,
that we know about we just scratch the surface the
cortical layer, if you will, of the brain. We don't
know anything about the brain. We have theory, we have probabilities,
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We have things that look like they make sense, so
we accept them. But then we develop a new tool,
we develop a new way to measure something or to
see something, and all of a sudden, our beliefs change,
our facts change, making them not facts in the first place.
So some questions don't have answers, not because I don't
know the answer, but because I believe I don't think
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anybody knows the answer.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Can in trainment help We've talked about this, but can
it in trainment help permanently overcome trauma and addiction or
does it just kind of refocus you temporarily.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
That again, is making a claim, and I hesitate to
do that. I'll go back to my muscle description of
the brain, saying that if you exercise that muscle, it's
going to keep it strong. If you stop exercising, you
run a risk. It's kind of like I used to
smoke cigarettes, I used to smoke marijuana, so well, I
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haven't spoked in who knows how long. I don't remember
how long. I was such a different person back then.
But if I were to go back and have a
cigarette now or a joint now, I'd probably go weeks
or months without another one, But then I'd have another one,
thinking well I had one, it's not a big deal,
and before you knew it, I'd be addicted again. So
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I think these changes are not something like a magic
bullet that just changes something and that's it has changed now.
I think it helps you to inspire change, but you
have to work to keep that change going. I don't
have enough, you know, faith in myself that if I
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stopped using my entrainment daily or at least four or
five times a week that I couldn't honestly tell you
I would be confident that my depression wouldn't come back.
After time. It might, but I mean, I get such
pleasure at a listening, why would I stop in anyway?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
So, how does your technology align with neuroscience research?
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Well, it aligns rather well with neuroscience research. There are
those who actually included, like I was mentioning doctor brenn
Is in the Alzheimer's guy. But it depends on the mind.
It depends on the scientist. It depends on their philosophies
and their beliefs. You know, doctors and scientists are an
insert are an interesting breed because if I go up
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to them with a problem, and I go to a
gastroine testinologist, they're going to come up with a problem
with my gut that caused it. A neuroscientist or doctor
may come up with a neurology based solution, you know,
hematologists may be something to do with my blood. So
everybody tends to kind of pigeonhole whatever they think, and however,
they think within their own guidelines, within their own personal
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restraints or medical restraints, or belief systems or whatever. So
it's again, it's another question that's very difficult to answer
because one neural scientist will give you one answer. Another
one will tell you brainway of a treatment is useless.
Others will tell you it shows promise, but we don't
know for sure. It's not a suit of science. It's
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not fake. There's lots of research out there showing that
it has effect, showing that it has positive effect. But
you know, again, much like the FDA with TYL and all,
I think what tells a story. More is by being
able to be in a situation where you can try
something and make up your own mind. I tell my
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clients sometimes I say, you know, that's a fantastic question,
but you're asking the wrong person. You should be asking
the person you see in the mirror every morning when
you brush your teeth, because ultimately, again, you are your
own guru. You're the only person who truly has the answers.
I could have a pill that I designed. You're going
to live to be one hundred and fifty. You're going
to be totally mobile the whole time. You're going to
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be totally alert and awake and having fun. And when
it's time to go, you're going to smile and go, hey, everybody,
I had a fun time seeing in whatever comes next.
But you still have to take the pill. If you
don't take the pill, it's not going to help you.
That means that you're the one responsible for your own happiness.
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That's not a bad thing. That's a wonderful thing because
if you're responsible, that means you have power. If you
have power, you can make the right decisions that get
you to where you want to go. And that's what
I love about this business because it's not me telling
you what to do. It's me helping you develop a
muscle that will help you to help yourself.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Which takes us back to you're an individual intent, doesn't it?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
So it's a pretty flexible format.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Apparently it's incredibly flexible. Different people will get different results
because they have different brains and different needs. It's flexible
because it gives results usually beyond what is intended. I
have systems that have various purposes, but I have found
in the testimonials that people who use them for that
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purpose tend to get more than they bargained for.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Well, we're going to bargain for another station. Rag, please
stay with us as next, Maury and I will explore
brainwaves and manifestation. This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission
evolution dot org. Can I get help with manifesting? This
is Evolution Mission evolution dot org. We're continuing our discussion
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with Maury's Ekhovich his website mind Trainer dashpro dot com.
And now Maury, there's the question, can you help me
with manifestation? And if so, how you.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Can help yourself with manifestation using brainwaven trainment to open
the energy in you towards manifestation. So there's actually frequencies.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
See.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
One of the ways I do my work is I
find people who are successful at whatever it is I
want to help people with, and then I look for
research in what kind of people, how do they live,
what do they do, what are their habits, all these
kinds of things, and then I figure out the dominant
brainwave patterns that they're likely experiencing when they are experiencing
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these peak performance states, and then I create systems that
train their the user's brain to achieve those same states
through the frequency following response the blah blah blah blah
blah blah by and then the brain starts following the
similar frequency. Then I incorporate spoken word aspects that help
guide people to solutions that they find for themselves. So manifestation.
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And it's interesting because I just wrote an article. I
don't have it published yet, but I wrote an article
about how your thought patterns influence your existence, so people,
you know, for instance, here's something that's interesting. I was
working on a deal with a company for a long
time and it seemed to never get any traction, but
they were very interested. I had been following political news
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a lot. You know, what's going on in the Canada
and the United States and in Europe and in the
East and everything. And because I thought, you know, I
should know what's going on in the world around me.
I thought it would help me prepare. I could maybe
come up with some products to help people with the
stress and anxiety that they're experiencing. Well, it turns out
I was exposing myself to stress and anxiety. So I
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stopped doing it, like cold Turkey, just stopped YouTube. Is
this close to not giving me any references to politics anymore.
As you know, the algorithms on x, on YouTube, on Instagram, whatever.
If you type in a word you know, Donald Trump
as an example, you will start getting tons of stuff
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about Donald Trump. If you do it about Ukraine, you'll
get tons of stuff about Ukraine. So what I did
was this was occupying my thoughts, It was getting in
the way of my intention, so I cut everything out.
Within three weeks it came through. Is that a coincidence?
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No way. You have to live my life to have
had the experience to be able to tell, you know,
magic most people call it magic or a miracle, But
magic or a miracle is really just science that hasn't
been explained yet, that's all. It's like the other dimensions
that we don't see but are there. Anyway. We don't
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see oxygen, we breathe it though all the time. We
don't see our heart beating, but our heart is beating
all the time. So we have evidence that these things exist,
why not expand that to more things exist. We may
not even be perceiving them. So look around you. You
see your life isn't quite what you want it to be.
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You're a little depressed. Maybe you're not earning money enough.
You're living paycheck to paycheck. If you're lucky, you don't
know where your rent's coming from. All these thoughts manifest
that kind of a destiny because that's your you know.
They say you're subconscious or your conscious mind or your
mind period doesn't judge what you do or think. It
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just gives you what you think. So it turns out
that when we think bad things, we have intense emotion
usually behind those bad things too. So what I tend
to do is I reverse engineer. I'm not that bright,
So what I do is I reverse engineer things that
already exist. So if we have something that brings crap
into your life, and it doesn't you know, like legitimately
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all the time for so many people. That is a
pretty effective technique you have there, But for some reason
people don't think, huh, that's a really effective technique. But
if I change the content, what if I take it
from bad and I turn it into something good, the
same technique should then bring good results. Because with bad
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thinking it brings bad results. It makes logical sense that
with good thinking it would bring good results. So that's
where the brainwave ofven treatment comes in. It alters the
chemistry subtly so that it alters your perception and your
experience around you, so you start seeing things differently. Well,
I took myself away from all that political crap, and
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I feel if I need to know something, I'll know
something will happen. Someone will tell me if I need
to know something. And since then so many things are
coming to a head. And even things that some people
might consider bad are actually good. And again that's a
matter of intention, that's a matter of manifestation. If I
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feel pain in my knee, is that a bad thing? Like?
Well that if you felt pain in your knee after
this conversation and Please don't, because then you'll blame me.
But if you did, would you think that's a good
thing or a bad thing?
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Well, the way I look at that sort of thing,
is this a nice message for me to pay attention
to something which is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
There you go, That's exactly how you should look at it.
But most people would go, why me, I have to
go for a walk. Now, I have to do this,
I have to do that. Usually these things are indications.
You know, you misstep going up with an escalator or stairs,
or you bump into something because you're staring at your
phone or whatever. Or you almost get into an accident
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because you were sending a text and you just almost
hit a car, but you stopped. These are all messages.
These are all good things. Pain is a good thing,
believe it or not. Pain tells you something's amiss and
you need to think you need to do something about it.
What if you broke your leg or you broke your
arm and it didn't hurt. You may not go to
a hospital, You may not get it treated. Maybe you
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never walk again as a result of that. Maybe you
get in an infection, maybe you die from that infection.
But the pain saved your life, Like you said, it
was a good thing.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
I understand that. You know, there are people that don't
live very long because they're born without pain receptors. So
I get your point there. So let's talk a bit
a little bit about hereditary of the you know, heredity
of these patterns. You know, we come into a family,
and of course it's nature nurture question, right, But do
we inherit some of these things? And if we do,
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you know, these brain waves, these ways of thinking, and
if we do, can your method shift.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
That well, there would be I mean, it would be
reasonable to assume that there could be a genetic predisposition
to certain kinds of conditions, certain brain anomaies, neurochemical balances
that are passed on genetically. That being said, there's still
a process, there's still a methodology. There's still a rhyme
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and or reason as to wine neurons behave the way
they do what neural chemistry is supposed to do. I
believe that you can tweak it, just like going you know,
you're driving your car and the engine's rough and it
idols and it goes back and forth. You go, take it,
get it a tune up, and all of a sudden
it comes out nice and quiet and smooth and running
more efficiently. I believe that's possible for us too. Is
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it something that I can guarantee you? No, I don't
think I can guarantee anything. There's too many factors that
depend on the success of anything. Look if someone's a
diabetic and they're told they're a diabetic and they're given
insulin injections and they say, here's how to inject the insulin,
and all they do is eat chocolate bars and cake
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all the time. Is the insulin going to help maybe
a little at the beginning. You know what blows me
away is on television there's always these commercials for antacids,
you know if you've ever seen them. But it shows
people eating usually, you know, some kind of spicy food,
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and then it shows them in a serious discomfort, and
then it shows them pop in a pill or having
a drink of something, and they feel great and they're
eating the crop again. So why aren't they smart enough
to understand that your body is telling you this isn't
good for you. That's why you're getting heart burned. You're
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not getting heart burned just because not for fun. You're
getting it because your body is telling you this food
isn't good for you. Don't eat it anymore. That's why
you get heartburned. In the wild, animals eat a bury
off a tree and get sick. They don't eat that
bury ever. Again, humans invent something to cover up the symptom.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
How can listeners start using mind training? The mind trainer effectively.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
Well, the easiest way to listen. And again, there's nothing
to study, there's nothing to read. There's nothing really to
do other than to put it in an order, very
pair of stereo headphones or bone conduction headphones and lay
back for about half an hour, hit play. You can
even fall asleep. It doesn't make any difference at all
whether you sleep, whether you're awake. That's it. Lie down,
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sit with head support. You know, I've got head support
on this chair here. I could just lean back, close
my eyes, listen to the sounds, listen to my voice.
Whatever is going on in the recording, I don't even
have to listen to it. I don't have to pay
attention to it.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
I can say, is setting your intention before you do
that important for the effect?
Speaker 3 (51:40):
I would say it would be very helpful. Is it important?
I don't think so. I think the brain knows what
it needs, and if you just go in with the
intention that it's going to do whatever it needs to do,
that's enough. You don't need to sit there repeating the
intention over and over and over again. To be honest
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with you, it's my personal belief that hitting play lying
down saying my intention for this session is to relax.
That's it, and then let my mind do whatever it
wants to do. If it goes empty, it goes empty.
If it has millions of thoughts flying through it, it
has millions of thoughts flying through it. I've always had
a problem with people who used to teach me meditation
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because they always said, Maury, when it's time for you
to meditate, if thoughts come into your mind, tell yourself.
I respect you, but this is my quiet meditation time.
I will deal with you later. I'll think about you later,
but now this is my meditation time. I have a
real problem with that, because if you're meditating properly in
my world, at least in my universe, if the thought
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comes to you, that's because you're meditating and it came
to you. Don't push it away, don't ignore it, don't
try to empty your mind. That's my view. My view
is ever feels right. If the thought comes by like
a flicker of an image and it disappears, great. If
it comes by and it inspires you to think about it, great.
If nothing comes by, great, if like if anything happens,
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do whatever you're inspired to do at that moment. Great.
But don't follow a pattern that says empty your mind,
Empty your mind, empty your mind.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
So it's about that time in the program when I
get to ask you morey, what is your mission?
Speaker 3 (53:31):
So I don't have kids, My mission is to leave
a tool behind that can help others to help themselves.
That's really what.
Speaker 2 (53:41):
Is What do you see is the future of mind technology?
How do you see it evolving?
Speaker 3 (53:48):
We are mind, Our bodies are mechanical shells that mobilize us.
The future of mind technology is the future of the
mind itself. It's just like AI. AI is really useful
if it's paired with HI human intelligence. If it's just
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used as a crutch or as a replacement for thinking,
we're all going to turn into mental blobs.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
Well, unfortunately we are out of time. Mari. Thank you
so much for coming on the show and sharing your wisdom,
and thank all of you for joining us on Mission Evolution.
Our guest this hour has been more Zakhovich. He's the
creator of mind Trainer and a leading voice in the
field of brainwaven trainment. You can learn more about his
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groundbreaking work at mind Trainer dashpro dot com. This has
been Mission Evolution with Gwildoweeka. For more information or to
enjoy past archived episodes, visit www dot Mission evolution dot org.
Until next time, remember evolution is not merely a destination,
it's a journey of awakening. Please be sure to join
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is right here again as this mission will continue bringing information,
resources and support to our rapidly evolving world.
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