September 21, 2025 • 42 mins
Like a ballerina firing a naked gun, we take our first steps toward rebirth by saluting the dramatic conclusion of the summer movie season.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
In a world where movies rely on marketing more than
ever to connect with audiences, one podcast aims to make sense.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Of it all.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
This is movies and marketing. Next Saturday Night, Where're sending
you back to the future? Go ahead, make my day,
Corbut now you're crazy, Dutch bastard.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
What we've got here is failure, Milgate take them around?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Were as cross all of how for we might as well?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Good time?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I am an f I agent, Shad. This is it man,
here we are again. Can you believe it? The final reckoning?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Some would say that we had a dead reckoning and
now we have the final reckoning.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
You can't tell from listening to my voice, or maybe
you can. I'm smiling right now, and it's weird, right.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Surprising, But you feel good? Huh.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
With all ups, there are some downs, and I've had
a couple downs, and I know I could come back stronger,
you know. Without giving anything away, I think anyone who
listens to the podcast knows I am deep in the hole.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You've had a rocky summer.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
At this point, I feel your pain from the previous
two years. Before last year, you know you won, so
this is your second year in a row. You're on
a winning streak.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You know, when you're up, you're up, and when you're down,
you are down.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, I'm in the depths of despair. When I was little,
my grandmother used to say sometimes when you're sad, you
just have to laugh it off. You just have to smile.
That's sort of your therapy, right, that's your way of
making it through. So right now I'm smiling listeners, but
you know, deep down I have a little bit of
sadness in my heart. Anyway, let's get to that part though.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So you're a smiling, laughing creature, much like one of
the summer's top hits, the Smurfs.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, yeah, exactly like that.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
What a great preview. What we're talking about today is
we just wrapped up Labor Day. That means summer has
come to a close, and so has the Summer movie Draft.
A staple of this podcast and our lives. This is
our annual competition where we each draft seven movies to
see who can make the most box office dollars. We
(02:34):
did it, We drafted the teams, We went through the
entire summer. Now it's time to see whose team delivered
the better box office results and which movies hit and
missed with audiences this summer. Patrick, I know you might
not be feeling the best, but you're smiling. Are you
ready to dive back a little bit into summer twenty
(02:57):
twenty five?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, And I think we owe it to the listeners
to reflect on a summer that actually did pretty well
in the box office world.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Ah moderate, I mean it was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It's pretty good. I thought there were a lot of
choices this summer.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Towards the end, it kind of tapered out, But we
talked about that kind of in the beginning, a good
kind of diversity of product, a lot of kind of
different movies out in the marketplace, more than it seemed
like last summer. But let's talk about some of the
numbers here. You want to give us the overall stats
on the domestic box office this summer.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, so the box office stats, we come a just
under three point six billion, which is the cumulative domestic
gross of twenty twenty five summer movies, according to you know,
our friends over there at box Office Mojo. We love
those guys, We love them that mojo. Love a little
mojo in your life. That's just a tick under the
(03:53):
total for twenty twenty four. So I say it's a
great summer, but you know, it's a little less than
last year. The number seven, it's the number of the
twenty twenty five summer movies that gross more than one
hundred million at the domestic box office. Keep that in mind. Seven,
it's a lucky number.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Seven.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
It's not that many. No, it's not that many. But
eight movies hit that total in twenty twenty four. So
it's again just a tick under. There's a notable ninth movie, Garfield,
that was off by just nine million.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Ah, Garfield almost clowed its way to one hundred million
dollars last year. Yeah, remember because it was on my
team last year.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And from what you said, it was terrible. It was
a terrible movie. Awful, just just yeah. The fact that
you gave that movie money out of your own pocket
is disturbing.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
We still joke about that one in our family, how
bad that movie was.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
The number three three is the number. I feel like
Count Chocula right.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Now, Yeah, three three, that's not Count Schocula, that's just
the count.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Oh, the count, that's right.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Hey, yeah, Count Choko is the series guy.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
He's like, I like my chocolate d I don't remember
what he used to say. Three is the number of
twenty twenty five summer movies that grossed more than three
hundred million at the domestic box office. Three movies also
hit that total in twenty twenty four, So throwing some
numbers out, even steven, Yeah, three is a good number.
Two you know the universal language. Yeah, you know, math
(05:25):
zero is the number of movies that hit the five
hundred million dollar mark. So unlike let's say Maverick or Barbie,
which really crushed you in those years.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Big ones.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, those were my heavy hitters back in the day.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, remember when you had those.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Those were missing this year from my list, of course,
But twenty twenty four had two of these, Inside Out
two and Dead Poem Wolverine, So those were big players
last year.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah. So that's the notable difference I think between this
year and last year or some previous years. We just
didn't have those big blockbusters that kind of propelled the
summer to another level. Let me give you the top
five movies of summer twenty twenty five, and you can
tell me if you notice anything. A lot of these
movies have in common. Number one, Pleelo and Stitch, which
(06:14):
made four hundred and twenty three million. We have apprehended
a dangerous experiment.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Where is he?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
He escaped? Number two Superman Superman at three hundred and
fifty one million.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Hey buddy, it's up here.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Number three Jurassic World toll In Rebirth three hundred and
thirty eight million.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
All these species exist in one isolated place. Can you
be ready tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I can guarantee your safety, I mean or less, more
or less. Number four Fantastic four Colon First Steps two
hundred and sixty six million, and number five How to
Train Your Dragon two hundred and sixty two million. And
(07:19):
these numbers are as of September third, so you know,
just after the Labor Day weekend.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
And four out of those five were on your list.
So I think I've already teased it. Y'all know that
I lost horribly, I mean, at least so far. Potentially
there could be I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It could be some surprises. We don't know. But it's
not looking great for you when you only have one
of the top five movies.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Though Superman did all right, It did all right, did
all right.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Way to go soups. Yeah, So let's you know, get
onto the draft let's start by recapping the teams we
each picked. Also start since I had the first pick
in the draft. That first pick of mine was Lee,
Lo and Stitch, which, as we know, number one movie
this summer turned out well for me. Number two, I
took Jurassic World Rebirth. That one also did alright, ended
(08:15):
up being the third highest grossing movie this summer. Then
I had Fantastic Four First Steps. I think Marvel would
have hoped. This did a little better, but still did
pretty good. How To Train Your Dragon another one that
rounded out the top five there. Then I had f One.
This movie did surprisingly well, better than I thought. When
(08:37):
I took it, I was a little scared. I was like,
did I pick another old man movie no one wants
to see? But it ended up making almost two hundred
million dollars, so that was pretty impressive. Then I had
The Bad Guys Too. This movie did okay. You know,
it ended up making a little over seventy million, which
I hoped it would get a little further than that.
And then the last movie on my list was kind
(08:59):
of my pick, and that was Megan two point zero,
the lowest grossing movie of all the movies we drafted.
This one only made twenty four million. The first Megan
made over one hundred million dollars, so this was a
real downfall for that franchise. I don't know if we're
going to see any more of those.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, let's hope not. I'm not gonna lie. That looked
like a joke, but you know whatever, here's what I'll
say your list. It looks strong on paper.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
On paper, yes, on steal you're.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
It doesn't look great on film, but on paper it
looks great. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Maybe there's not a lot of movies you'd want to
see personally, but brings home the dollars.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, so my team sounds better on paper than it
actually did on paper.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Then paper it actually made.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yes, exactly. My first pick was Mission Impossible, you know,
didn't really perform what I wanted to see. You know,
it made a little under two hundred million, but I
really needed it to do more than that. Didn't. Superman
three hundred and fifty million was it's respectable. I was
really hoping it was going to be my Barbie of
(10:20):
the summer.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, you thought it would go nuclear and I was
worried it might.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, so I guess this is nuclear for a Superman movie.
In hindsight, I wish I would have predicted that a
little bit better. But again, okay, Ballerina, I don't know
what the hell happened Ballerina. That did not do anything close.
I think here's my problem. I reverted back to a
(10:46):
primitive state when I was choosing my movies and thinking
about things that I thought looked good, like, I was like, oh,
John Wick. I know John Wick movies do really pretty decent,
and I was really hoping for John Wick money. And
nobody went to see this who likes John Wick?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Even though it was called from the world of John
Wick Colin Ballerina.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Maybe people are John wicked out. I don't know. I
don't know. Anyway, sadly didn't do great. Fifty eight million, yeah, Ilio,
Oh it's a big miss. It's a big miss there,
seventy little shy a seventy three million. I mean, I've
made more money in my sleep than that movie. I
(11:31):
don't know that that analogy works. But it's sad for
a Pixar movie, I really, I mean, usually you're guaranteed
a couple hundred million. That's what the sad part is about.
That pick is like I should have seen two hundred million.
I didn't see any money for that.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
They actually took money from you.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, twenty eight years later, again, another one of those
like I hoped picks. It didn't do horrible seventy million
like in any other given year like that would have
been a great number seven pick or something like that.
But I picked it a a little early, hoping that
it was going to do better whatever. Then the Naked
Gun number six on my list. I really, I really
(12:11):
hope that movie was going to do something. And again
it's my number six pick. It's respectable.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Did all right?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, a little fifty one million, little bit of money there.
If all my other picks would have done what I
would hope they would do, this would be a much
closer game. But they didn't. And then I had The Materialists,
which was my number seven pick. Again, that was my
indie pick.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Qualified for a bonus.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah, qualified me for a bonus. Materialist did thirty six million,
which was respectable for that number seven pick.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
That's good for an indie movie.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah. So sadly my last picks, from the standpoint of
they weren't my top picks. They did better in the
box office than you know, most six and seven picks do.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
This is what you know his historically happened to me
in my worst years, I'd be like, mow, my five,
six and seven are pretty strong. Yeah, I look at
your list. There's a lot of movies on there where
I'm like, these are movies I want to see. Yeah,
I think you made the classic mistake which I've made
many times, where I'm like, I'm gonna pick the movies
I'm into, Yeah, because other people. If I'm into them,
(13:21):
other people are gonna want to see them too.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I did that. I faltered, you know, Like that's how
I say. I sort of went back to a primitive state.
There was a year where I lost horribly because I
didn't pick any kids movies, you know, and I was
thinking only like about superheroes and blah blah blah. You know,
in my head, I had it worked out, the math
made sense. And this year it was almost like I
(13:44):
had forgotten the past. I didn't learn from my mistakes,
or I had forgotten them because I, you know, I
was riding high. And then when you won last year,
I thought it was a fluke. I was like, he's
gonna regret the day he's gonna rue the day that
he ever thought he could win twice in a row.
(14:05):
And look here we are. Look at you. Remember we
were talking about this not that long ago. I was
trying to talk it up. I said, listen, man, this
just might be a little blip. You might come back.
You didn't feel real great about that at the time.
You thought I was just blowing smoke. You thought I
was just, you know, trying to maybe even patronize you
a little maybe. Yeah, And I wasn't. I I was
(14:26):
legit trying to you know. I felt bad. I really
felt like I wanted to give something out of my
pocket tea at that moment, because I knew you were
you were hurting.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I was low.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
But look at you now, look at you now winner.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I know again, as we said, on a long enough timeline,
with these things, you know, everything changes.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Man.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
When you're down, You're like, I don't know how I'm
ever gonna get out of this now. It's like gambling.
You feel like the mojo has completely gone out of you.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Mm hmm, Like who am I? Why am I even here?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
How am I ever going to get back?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah? A little bit like Austin Powers felt when he
lost his mojo you know.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, well we do have some bonuses to give out,
so there is still some more money on the table
that you can grab, So there is still some hope.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Mm hmmmm hmm.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Let's talk about those. The first one the Raiders Reward.
This one goes to the movie with the best multiplier,
that's the movie that has the best legs beyond its
opening weekend. Patrick, you got this for Elio, Ilio, Ileo.
I still don't know how to say it, Ilio, Are
you sure about that?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I'm positive I should know all of my losers.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, Ilio had a multiplier of three point five, the
best of any movie, partially because it opens so low. Yeah,
but for that you get, you know, three point five
times five, so you get seventeen point five million added
to your total bounty. Some close calls on this one.
(16:00):
Guys too had a multiplier of three point four and
F one had three point three, So those ones, you
know right there, couldn't quite get over the top. Next up,
we have the Wick Award.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, I'm thinking I'm back.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Named after of course, your buddy John Wick.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, who did not help me out. Well, you know,
we're never going to call this the Ballerino Award.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Probably not unless it's you know, taking away money instead
of giving. So with this one, we each at the
beginning of the summer guest what our team total would be.
Whoever came closer to their guests without going over Bryce's
right rules got a ten million dollar bonus. This one,
good Sir, went to me.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, I was off by.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
One hundred and seventy eight million, which sounds like a lot,
but you know, in the grand scheme, not that much.
You Patrick were off by two hundred and six million. Unfortunately,
I mean you wouldn't want to anyway, but unfortunately you
were also disqualified because your guess was over your actual total.
Not completely surprising.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, Also, ten million dollars wouldn't help me at all,
so it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Like I'll take your ten million. This one I think
helped you a little bit though. The indie Equalizer, so
certain indie movies you know that didn't come from the
major studios were eligible for a bonus of three times
they're gross up to one hundred million dollars. You're indie
pick Materialist maxed out this movie made thirty six million dollars,
(17:39):
three times that you got that one hundred million dollar bonus.
So that movie was actually very profitable for.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
You, which it should be. It's got some big players
in there. It materialized, some might say, some money into
my pocket for this draft.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, that was a good one that turned out really
well for you. I am sad that I didn't get
that with my last pick, and instead I got Megan
two point zero and last we have one more bonus,
the trade back to the Future, a real wild card
that we're going to get to in a minute. But first,
of course, an annual tradition, we're going to hand out
(18:16):
some awards. You want to talk about this.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Patchrick, Yeah, we're each going to give an award to
the other person for their picks. Two awards, Yeah, two
awards that we've you know, chosen for them specifically for
obvious reasons. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
These are not awards you would find anywhere else. These
are very specific to UH movies in marketing and this
draft here. I think I don't think you'll see these
awards coming up on any other award shows you would watch.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, so do you want to go first?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Sure, since you won, I mean, nobody knows that yet, right,
I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Since I potentially have won for the second year, and
I will go first. The first award I have for you,
Patrick is the I thought I was pulling out a
high powered assault weapon, but instead it misfired and shot
me in the ass award. Damn, somebody sat doing the ass. Okay,
(19:19):
So this award primarily goes to Ballerina, a movie Lionsgate
and you thought would be another John Wick, but it
turned out to be a Wick that didn't catch fire.
At fifty eight million, this barely earned more than Karate
Kid Legends, but with a budget of eighty to ninety
million after a lot of reported reshoots. But this award
(19:43):
also goes to Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning, a movie
that did the average of Mission Impossible movies one ninety
seven million, but many hope would do better since it
was marketed as the final installment, it had a prime
Memorial Day release slot of the usual July release, and
it had a huge budget. But mostly this award goes
(20:07):
to you, Patrick for picking both Mission Impossible and Ballerina
way too early in the draft. You picked Mission Impossible
with the overall second pick in the draft, your first pick,
only for Mission to be the number sixth movie. This
summer and you picked Ballerina with the fifth overall pick,
(20:28):
only for it to be the number eleven movie of
the summer, a minus six from its draft position. These
were some major misfires that ended up costing you the game.
That's why you received the I thought I was pulling
out a high power to assault weapon, but instead it
misfired and shot me in the ass. Award.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
That's uh, it makes me sad, you know, anytime you
get an award and you've lost this dramatically. Again, listeners,
you haven't heard the actual number yet, but let me
tell you something. It makes a lot of sense what
you're saying. It makes it makes it hurt a little
bit more. You know.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Sometimes the pain is good.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, the pain means you're still alive. And as they say,
pain is just something leaving the body.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
It's all your blood is leaving the body. Broach.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Oh yeah, it's a good it's a good ward a title.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, congratulations.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So mine are pretty obvious. I mean, you have just
all across the board. You've got movies to just swamp
swamped my picks. So my first award is the you
leave me and Lilo and Stitches Award for obvious reasons.
(21:53):
Lelo and Stitch doing you know, four hundred and twenty
three million dollars, sad sad, sadly, we knew it was coming.
There's no bitterness there. But this fits for your picks
because Lelo and Stitch and How to Train Your Dragon,
you know, really brought the warm and fuzzies. You know.
I knew Lelo and Stitch was gonna be a hit.
(22:14):
I knew that, but you had you had it, you
had it in the bag. The How to Train Your Dragon, though,
is where I start to reflect on my own How
do I put this without sounding so like, you know,
unbelievably depressing my own.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Oversight, miss blind spots.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Any other words you want to throw it there? Yeah, shortcomings,
my own shortcomings. I think that's what I would use,
you know, because it was in the box office. It
was a shortcoming. But you brought the fire breathing chaos,
and I appreciate that about you, Shad. So the you
(22:53):
leave me and Lelo and Stitch's award goes to you.
And here's the thing. You surprised me this year. You
surprised me with your tenacity. He came back strong. You
were like, you know, I want to go for a
three peat. I think you're gonna try next year, So
we'll see, we'll see. But here's my award. That's what
(23:14):
you got.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Well, I appreciate that. Now you know it's not a fluke.
You can't just sit back and you know it's all
gonna come to you like it did at one point
when you were the patriots of the Summer movie draft.
Mm hm, back at the good old.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Days, the good old days when I was riding high
five years in a row. Yeah, so long.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
But your award, you know, directly connects to my next award,
which is the one eyed boy with a name no
one is quite sure how to pronounce who gets burned
alive by a dragon award. Obviously, this award goes to Ilio,
a movie that, you know, despite some quality stats, failed
(23:59):
to connect with the audience, says the way past Pixar
movies have, including a movie I picked a couple of
years ago, Elemental, which was disappointing when it made one
hundred and fifty million dollars. Elio made, you know, seventy three.
Ilio is both the story of your draft this year
and also a story of a lot of movies this summer.
(24:21):
So it's the story of your draft in the sense
you chose Ilo over How to Train Your Dragon, which
would go on to gross two hundred and sixty two
million and leave One Eyed Elio in the dust a
big time miss. So also the story of a lot
of other movies that Ilio was clumped with in the
final standings twenty eight years later, Ballerino The Naked Gun.
(24:44):
By all metrics, these were good, liked movies that just
could not make their way across the one hundred million mark.
There was a point in the draft when I mentioned
the possibility of taking Freakier Friday with my final pick,
which you know I unfortunately used on Megan two point zero,
and you talked about how terrible freaky your Friday looked.
(25:06):
Freaky Your Friday ended up outperforming every movie on your
team except for Superman and Mission Impossible. Yeah, the movie
has made like eighty million dollars for that, and for
Elio you get the one eyed boy with a name
no one is quite sure how to pronounce, who gets
burned alive by a dragon award.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I mean it's fitting, you know, it's fitting. I feel
like a little one eyed boy who was burned alive.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Staring up at space, praying for the aliens to come
save you.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, and that little one eyed boy is sitting there,
he's in space, you know, the cold dead of space.
You know, it was sort of a smile because he
you know, at one point thought he might have a
comeback somewhere in there in that list, but he didn't,
and then he just froze to death, you know, as
everyone would in the cold dead of space. All Right, Well,
(26:02):
you know, nothing like turning the knife as it's.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Well, you don't get these opportunities often. You gotta take them.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, I could tell you're enjoying it too, so that's good.
I appreciate that. My second award, I think it is
elaborately crazy with the naming conventions this year, mainly because
I don't care enough anymore, the overwhelming sadness then overwhelming
despair that has washed over me. So I have the
(26:35):
Popcorn Paradox Award for you.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Shad Oh nice alliteration.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, this comes to you because this is a little
stab at the fact that you're coming back. You have
a film lineup that defies logic, because why did the
movie gods give it to you. I don't know. I
don't know why they all of a sudden thought you
should win this year. But somehow you know your unexpected
(27:02):
wins make perfect sense. So it's the popcorn paradox award.
Only Shad could stack Megan two point zero, Lee Low
and Stitch and f one in the same universe and
make it feel oddly coherent and win. Okay, this is
the paradox right delightfully unpredictable for you, Shad as a draft,
(27:25):
but it's a cinematic cocktail where crowd pleasers, chaotic sequels,
emotionally charged franchises, they swirl together. And this is the paradox.
How you won. I don't know. It's a luck of
the draw, is what I'll say. Next year, be as
it may, I might come back and make you eat
(27:46):
some Hey, listen to what I say. You just may
just may well.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I hope you do have to they, you know, agulate
this year. Let's see if you can bring something a
little little better. I remember remember being in the draft
and being like, is this guy is he trying?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I can see where you can think that. Here's the thing.
Your team proves that cinematic synergy doesn't have to make sense. Okay,
it just has to make you grab another handful of popcorn,
which it did in your Popcorn Paradox Award.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
It's a great award and I accept it. I will
gladly watch the triple feature of Lelo and Stitch F
one and my Threegan two point zero Mathreegan. Well, now
that we've got the hardware, we've got our awards, we've
got most of our bonuses, let's get to the moment
everyone's been waiting for their dying to hear the final
(28:39):
results the domestic box office totals for each team. My
total team total before bonuses was one point five seven
eight million. Then I got a ten million dollars bonus,
so I was at one point five eight I'm sorry,
one point five to eight billion.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah. Billion, billion billion is a is a big differentiator there, Yeah,
with a B, not an M.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah, ended up with one point five eight billion, Patrick,
how'd you do? What was your total?
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Do I even have to tell people? You do?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
It's part of the uh, it's part of the healing process.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, healing. Yeah, it's emotional trauma. Yeah. Sadly, this is
the year I didn't pass a billion dollars eight hundred
and thirty eight million dollars is my total. I got
one hundred and seventeen million dollar and a half million
dollar bonus put me at a nine hundred and fifty
five and some change million. I was about five hundred million,
(29:41):
not five hundred million, five hundred thousand away from being
at a billion, which is sick sickening.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, that's kind of like the you know bar you
want to at least get to that billion mark.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah. Not being at a billion really hurts, you know,
because what that tells me is a billion just doesn't
go as far as it used to. I don't know
if that actually plays out, but you know, it just
I need to strive for more. I need to strive
for bigger. Maybe next year I must strive for like
a trillion.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I'd have to look back to see if any of
us have ever hit two billion. I don't know. Well,
the difference between our team totals ended up being six
hundred and thirty two million. That's a lot. I do
have some good news for you, though, looking back on history.
That's high, but not among the highest of all times.
It doesn't topple some of the numbers you beat me
(30:33):
with in twenty twenty two you won by a margin
of seven hundred and fifty million. That was the top
Gun Maverick year. And in twenty twenty three you won
by six hundred and ninety five million. That was the
Barbie year. Yes, so it's not an all timer though
it's up there.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I thought it should have been the greatest of all time,
given though the difference between lineups. But you know, Superman
helped you out.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
And let me say, you know, at least I can
claim I've beat you with a lot more money and
star power and movie power and I mean really pretty
much everything in the past. So until you can come
back and beat me beyond seven hundred and fiftye hundred.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
And fifty million, seven hundred and fifty yep, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
That was painful pummeling maybe during your three peet Oh,
let's not put the.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Cart before the horse. I see what you're doing there.
Than we do have one more thing though, we said
we get back to the trade back to the Future bonus. Now,
this bonus, I don't know how relevant it is this year,
but we got to play it out. This bonus allows
each team to trade one movie on your list for
a movie from a previous year that finished in the
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domestic rankings the same number as your draft pick one
through fourteen. Here's the loophole. The year you get your
pick from will be chosen randomly. You can get any
year between nineteen eighty five and twenty twenty four, So
anytime in the past thirty years could be good, could
be bad depending on what year you get. So the
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big question facing both of us right now, will you
be trading back to the future? Patrick, This question comes
to you first. Will you be trading back to the future?
And if so, what movie on your list will you
be trading?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
So what did we decide? If I pick, you can
pick and if I don't pick, you're not gonna pick obviously, right.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I'll probably pick no matter what, I'll probably trade out, Megan.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
No matter what, You're gonna trade out, Megan. That's funny,
all right? Well, I mean, let's let's try it. I'll
throw out my number two pick. See what it gives me.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Generate a random year between eighty five and twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Nineteen ninety seven, nineteen ninety seven. That doesn't sound good,
Let's see.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
It goes with the uh theme of the year. The
number two movie was The Lost World Jurassic Park, which
made two hundred and twenty seven million dollars. Okay, so
two hundred and twenty eight if we round up so
slightly more, you made an extra thirty million or something
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like that.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Okay, Well, you know, so that puts me six hundred
and ten million behind, or so.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
It is six oh two almost almost even and change.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
All right, So that brings the discrepancy between our two
totals to six hundred and two million, so you know,
slightly more respectable. But you said you're going to trade
out Megan.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
It's the flaw on my list. So it's the fourteenth movie.
We'll see what we get for that. I think we
can get more than Megan. Now, so give me a random.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Year, okay, two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Two thousand and nine, number fourteen in two thousand nine, Oh,
this is great District nine. Oh that was a great
movie which made one hundred and three million dollars. Shit fuck,
that's quite an upgrade and great movie.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah, he'd be at like six hundred and eighty million.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Now, yeah, I'm gonna be a little ahead.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
I was really hoping you were gonna get something that
was gonna be like one million.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Let's see what would have happened if I would have
got the year nineteen eighty five. If I would have
got nineteen eighty five, fourteen number fourteen made Prizzies Honor
made twenty six six fifty So I still made more.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Than nineteen eighty five. With inflation too, that's way higher.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah that's crazy, You suck, Megan, what's your problem? So
then I'm at one point six six seven billion even change,
So the difference ends up being six hundred and eighty
one million and change. Nice District nine.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
That's a good movie too.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good back to
the future grab.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, I never would have thought fourteenth pick would do that.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Well, this is how the box office has changed. Obviously,
we had would we say, seven movies crossing one hundred million?
This year two thousand and nine had fourteen. That's insanity,
so double the number. Things have really changed.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
So congratulations, Chad. You deserved it. And I say that
loosely like, well, you really needed it, and that I
can definitely attest to. And I'm not saying I coughed
it up, but I feel like I'm coughing up some
you know, blood with the sadness. No, but congratulations, you
did a great job. All right, I'm gonna go see
(35:56):
you later, not quite yet, just kidding.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
The big thing I will say is all time, we're
four and five. I've got a chance next year to
even this thing.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
After one point, it's seeming like you were going to
be so far away I wouldn't even be able to
see you in the distance.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I mean, that's a good goal to have, you know,
in life, is trying to tie it up with me.
I think about like athletes, you know, sometimes you look
to those goats and you're like, hey man, one day
I'm gonna be able to maybe tie up and you know,
get as many awards as that guy that's kind of
like you. Right now, I mean, right now, you're just
(36:36):
thinking about tying it up. I mean, you can't really
think that far ahead. You know that you're gonna beat me.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I like that. You know, you lost a couple of
years and it's really taken away your cockiness. Glad you've
come back down to earth.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, now this is all in good fun. Listeners,
you probably know there's not one since Seer competitive Bone
in either of our bodies. We're not thinking about this
draft in a serious way whatsoever, so on a very
personal level and also you know, lighthearted. What did you
(37:15):
think of the summer? Did you think it was a
good movie summer?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I thought it was okay, you know, it ended up
being kind of uninspiring. I was hoping for a little more.
You talk to the beginning, it seemed like there was
a lot of different kind of movies at We had
action and comedy and family movies and horror and indie movies,
which seemed like more than we got last year. But
I don't know that a lot of them delivered all
that much, or especially we didn't get like the big movies.
(37:39):
They're the movies everybody was kind of like buzzing about.
We got one. We should mention that we both kind
of missed on or not a lot of people saw coming,
which was weapons that kind of has a lot of
people talking now and ended up crossing that hundred million mark. Yeah,
you know, neither one of us drafted that one. You know,
if you got that at number seven, that would have
been a good grab. But we we didn't get a
(38:00):
lot of those movies this summer. I think we had
more of those before the summer. We had like Minecraft
and Sinners, which are kind of those movies, before we
even got to the summer seasons. I think it was
you know, moderate, what about you? Where do you stand?
I agree with you to some degree.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I there are a lot of movies on this list, though,
this summer movie list that I do want to see,
which I can say with certainty has not been the
case in every other summer you know. Like you mentioned Weapons,
I'm just like, I didn't know it was coming out,
and we probably should have maybe we talked about it.
I don't even know. I didn't know what to expect.
So stuff like that, and even if they're not great
(38:37):
box office straws, there's a lot of stuff I still
want to see because it looks interesting or it looks
it looks different, you know. That's the thing. Like there
were some of these movies like Fantastic Four, like I
do kind of want to see what they did with it,
mainly because of some of the actors and stuff. And
I was kind of interested by that. But I'm more
(38:58):
interested in some of the movie that aren't the big
box office draws I mentioned. Yeah, I think even in
the draft, like Toxic Avenger. And there's that movie Sketch,
which I saw some trailers for and I'm like, that's weird.
It's like a kid movie but also kind of psychological
in a way. I don't I don't really know how
to put that one. So there's like some of those
(39:21):
tinier movies that I think are a draw to me.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
What movies did you end up seeing this summer?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I saw a lot. I actually for my summer. Normally
I don't get to see that many. But I saw four.
I saw F one, I saw Mission Impossible, I saw Superman,
and I saw The Naked Gun. I gave you a
little bit of money if I see an F one,
which was a very good movie. I liked that movie.
Out of those, I'd say Naked Gun. It gave me
something I was looking for, like a dumb comedy, and
(39:48):
it also had a little bit of nostalgia there from
the original Naked Gun. I thought that one gave me
the most out of those, even though I liked them all.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
I got one more than you. I saw five this summer,
which I think was less than last year. We saw
a lot of like movies as a family last year.
This year I saw Lee Low and Stitch, Superman twenty
eight years later, The Bad Guys Too, and The Naked Gun.
I agree with you on the Naked Gun. That was
great to see a comedy in the theater, and there
(40:16):
were just a lot of laughs in there. I mean,
the laugh a minute comedy. Yeah, give me that all day.
You know, the snowman montage in that movie is a
chef's kiss. But my favorite movie that I saw summer
it was probably twenty eight years later, which was just
a really odd, interesting movie. I'm glad it, you know,
made as much money as it did because it was
(40:38):
just kind of a bizarre I could see this coming
out another time and like making like thirty five million
dollars or something like that. So I'm glad it kind
of got as much as it did or as many
people went to see it. And there's another one that's
supposed to be coming I think next year.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, and those are the ones I missed seeing, Like
I really wanted to see that and Ballering in the
Theater just didn't get around to it. And then, you know,
the other one that's on my list, which I actually
do want to see is the Material Lists. You know, again,
another one of those movies that wouldn't be my typical
pick to go see, but I would like to see it.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah. I ended up watching The Phoenician Scheme at home,
and that's what I wish I would have seen in
the theater. Good Wes Anderson.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Flick, Yeah, that's on the peacock or something, right, yeah, pickcock. Yeah.
So it's overall, you know, good Summer movie Draft Awards season.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Another one in the books. We'll see what we get
next year. Can't wait until we hit May again and
we get to do this all over.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
I'm psyched. I'm bringing the A game next year.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
You're ready. You're gonna be ready for it, I think. Yeah,
two years once you get kind of like trudged through
the mud a little bit, Yeah, I think you're gonna
be ready.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Make no mistake. Next year it's on like Donkey Kong.
All right, Well, listeners, hopefully you played along this year
and let us know how you're drafted. If you played
along like you should have, because you know, we want
you guys in the trenches, you know, get a stake
in the game always. But if you didn't, that's cool too.
(42:12):
If you just listen for entertainment value, that's fine. You
get to hear us raz each other a little bit. Anyway.
That's it for this episode of Movies and Marketing until
next time, and until next summer. Let's fade to black.
I'll be back.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
He's not coming back.
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Speaker 2 (00:49):
Some would say that we had a dead reckoning and
now we have the final reckoning.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
You can't tell from listening to my voice, or maybe
you can. I'm smiling right now, and it's weird, right.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Surprising, But you feel good? Huh.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
With all ups, there are some downs, and I've had
a couple downs, and I know I could come back stronger,
you know. Without giving anything away, I think anyone who
listens to the podcast knows I am deep in the hole.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You've had a rocky summer.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
At this point, I feel your pain from the previous
two years. Before last year, you know you won, so
this is your second year in a row. You're on
a winning streak.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You know, when you're up, you're up, and when you're down,
you are down.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, I'm in the depths of despair. When I was little,
my grandmother used to say sometimes when you're sad, you
just have to laugh it off. You just have to smile.
That's sort of your therapy, right, that's your way of
making it through. So right now I'm smiling listeners, but
you know, deep down I have a little bit of
sadness in my heart. Anyway, let's get to that part though.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So you're a smiling, laughing creature, much like one of
the summer's top hits, the Smurfs.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, yeah, exactly like that.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
What a great preview. What we're talking about today is
we just wrapped up Labor Day. That means summer has
come to a close, and so has the Summer movie Draft.
A staple of this podcast and our lives. This is
our annual competition where we each draft seven movies to
see who can make the most box office dollars. We
(02:34):
did it, We drafted the teams, We went through the
entire summer. Now it's time to see whose team delivered
the better box office results and which movies hit and
missed with audiences this summer. Patrick, I know you might
not be feeling the best, but you're smiling. Are you
ready to dive back a little bit into summer twenty
(02:57):
twenty five?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, And I think we owe it to the listeners
to reflect on a summer that actually did pretty well
in the box office world.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Ah moderate, I mean it was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It's pretty good. I thought there were a lot of
choices this summer.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Towards the end, it kind of tapered out, But we
talked about that kind of in the beginning, a good
kind of diversity of product, a lot of kind of
different movies out in the marketplace, more than it seemed
like last summer. But let's talk about some of the
numbers here. You want to give us the overall stats
on the domestic box office this summer.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, so the box office stats, we come a just
under three point six billion, which is the cumulative domestic
gross of twenty twenty five summer movies, according to you know,
our friends over there at box Office Mojo. We love
those guys, We love them that mojo. Love a little
mojo in your life. That's just a tick under the
(03:53):
total for twenty twenty four. So I say it's a
great summer, but you know, it's a little less than
last year. The number seven, it's the number of the
twenty twenty five summer movies that gross more than one
hundred million at the domestic box office. Keep that in mind. Seven,
it's a lucky number.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Seven.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
It's not that many. No, it's not that many. But
eight movies hit that total in twenty twenty four. So
it's again just a tick under. There's a notable ninth movie, Garfield,
that was off by just nine million.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Ah, Garfield almost clowed its way to one hundred million
dollars last year. Yeah, remember because it was on my
team last year.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And from what you said, it was terrible. It was
a terrible movie. Awful, just just yeah. The fact that
you gave that movie money out of your own pocket
is disturbing.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
We still joke about that one in our family, how
bad that movie was.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
The number three three is the number. I feel like
Count Chocula right.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Now, Yeah, three three, that's not Count Schocula, that's just
the count.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Oh, the count, that's right.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Hey, yeah, Count Choko is the series guy.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
He's like, I like my chocolate d I don't remember
what he used to say. Three is the number of
twenty twenty five summer movies that grossed more than three
hundred million at the domestic box office. Three movies also
hit that total in twenty twenty four, So throwing some
numbers out, even steven, Yeah, three is a good number.
Two you know the universal language. Yeah, you know, math
(05:25):
zero is the number of movies that hit the five
hundred million dollar mark. So unlike let's say Maverick or Barbie,
which really crushed you in those years.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Big ones.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, those were my heavy hitters back in the day.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, remember when you had those.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Those were missing this year from my list, of course,
But twenty twenty four had two of these, Inside Out
two and Dead Poem Wolverine, So those were big players
last year.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah. So that's the notable difference I think between this
year and last year or some previous years. We just
didn't have those big blockbusters that kind of propelled the
summer to another level. Let me give you the top
five movies of summer twenty twenty five, and you can
tell me if you notice anything. A lot of these
movies have in common. Number one, Pleelo and Stitch, which
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made four hundred and twenty three million. We have apprehended
a dangerous experiment.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Where is he?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
He escaped? Number two Superman Superman at three hundred and
fifty one million.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Hey buddy, it's up here.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Number three Jurassic World toll In Rebirth three hundred and
thirty eight million.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
All these species exist in one isolated place. Can you
be ready tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I can guarantee your safety, I mean or less, more
or less. Number four Fantastic four Colon First Steps two
hundred and sixty six million, and number five How to
Train Your Dragon two hundred and sixty two million. And
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these numbers are as of September third, so you know,
just after the Labor Day weekend.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
And four out of those five were on your list.
So I think I've already teased it. Y'all know that
I lost horribly, I mean, at least so far. Potentially
there could be I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It could be some surprises. We don't know. But it's
not looking great for you when you only have one
of the top five movies.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Though Superman did all right, It did all right, did
all right.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Way to go soups. Yeah, So let's you know, get
onto the draft let's start by recapping the teams we
each picked. Also start since I had the first pick
in the draft. That first pick of mine was Lee,
Lo and Stitch, which, as we know, number one movie
this summer turned out well for me. Number two, I
took Jurassic World Rebirth. That one also did alright, ended
(08:15):
up being the third highest grossing movie this summer. Then
I had Fantastic Four First Steps. I think Marvel would
have hoped. This did a little better, but still did
pretty good. How To Train Your Dragon another one that
rounded out the top five there. Then I had f One.
This movie did surprisingly well, better than I thought. When
(08:37):
I took it, I was a little scared. I was like,
did I pick another old man movie no one wants
to see? But it ended up making almost two hundred
million dollars, so that was pretty impressive. Then I had
The Bad Guys Too. This movie did okay. You know,
it ended up making a little over seventy million, which
I hoped it would get a little further than that.
And then the last movie on my list was kind
(08:59):
of my pick, and that was Megan two point zero,
the lowest grossing movie of all the movies we drafted.
This one only made twenty four million. The first Megan
made over one hundred million dollars, so this was a
real downfall for that franchise. I don't know if we're
going to see any more of those.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, let's hope not. I'm not gonna lie. That looked
like a joke, but you know whatever, here's what I'll
say your list. It looks strong on paper.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
On paper, yes, on steal you're.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
It doesn't look great on film, but on paper it
looks great. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Maybe there's not a lot of movies you'd want to
see personally, but brings home the dollars.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, so my team sounds better on paper than it
actually did on paper.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Then paper it actually made.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yes, exactly. My first pick was Mission Impossible, you know,
didn't really perform what I wanted to see. You know,
it made a little under two hundred million, but I
really needed it to do more than that. Didn't. Superman
three hundred and fifty million was it's respectable. I was
really hoping it was going to be my Barbie of
(10:20):
the summer.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, you thought it would go nuclear and I was
worried it might.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, so I guess this is nuclear for a Superman movie.
In hindsight, I wish I would have predicted that a
little bit better. But again, okay, Ballerina, I don't know
what the hell happened Ballerina. That did not do anything close.
I think here's my problem. I reverted back to a
(10:46):
primitive state when I was choosing my movies and thinking
about things that I thought looked good, like, I was like, oh,
John Wick. I know John Wick movies do really pretty decent,
and I was really hoping for John Wick money. And
nobody went to see this who likes John Wick?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Even though it was called from the world of John
Wick Colin Ballerina.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Maybe people are John wicked out. I don't know. I
don't know. Anyway, sadly didn't do great. Fifty eight million, yeah, Ilio,
Oh it's a big miss. It's a big miss there,
seventy little shy a seventy three million. I mean, I've
made more money in my sleep than that movie. I
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don't know that that analogy works. But it's sad for
a Pixar movie, I really, I mean, usually you're guaranteed
a couple hundred million. That's what the sad part is about.
That pick is like I should have seen two hundred million.
I didn't see any money for that.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
They actually took money from you.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, twenty eight years later, again, another one of those
like I hoped picks. It didn't do horrible seventy million
like in any other given year like that would have
been a great number seven pick or something like that.
But I picked it a a little early, hoping that
it was going to do better whatever. Then the Naked
Gun number six on my list. I really, I really
(12:11):
hope that movie was going to do something. And again
it's my number six pick. It's respectable.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Did all right?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, a little fifty one million, little bit of money there.
If all my other picks would have done what I
would hope they would do, this would be a much
closer game. But they didn't. And then I had The Materialists,
which was my number seven pick. Again, that was my
indie pick.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Qualified for a bonus.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah, qualified me for a bonus. Materialist did thirty six million,
which was respectable for that number seven pick.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
That's good for an indie movie.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah. So sadly my last picks, from the standpoint of
they weren't my top picks. They did better in the
box office than you know, most six and seven picks do.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
This is what you know his historically happened to me
in my worst years, I'd be like, mow, my five,
six and seven are pretty strong. Yeah, I look at
your list. There's a lot of movies on there where
I'm like, these are movies I want to see. Yeah,
I think you made the classic mistake which I've made
many times, where I'm like, I'm gonna pick the movies
I'm into, Yeah, because other people. If I'm into them,
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other people are gonna want to see them too.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I did that. I faltered, you know, Like that's how
I say. I sort of went back to a primitive state.
There was a year where I lost horribly because I
didn't pick any kids movies, you know, and I was
thinking only like about superheroes and blah blah blah. You know,
in my head, I had it worked out, the math
made sense. And this year it was almost like I
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had forgotten the past. I didn't learn from my mistakes,
or I had forgotten them because I, you know, I
was riding high. And then when you won last year,
I thought it was a fluke. I was like, he's
gonna regret the day he's gonna rue the day that
he ever thought he could win twice in a row.
(14:05):
And look here we are. Look at you. Remember we
were talking about this not that long ago. I was
trying to talk it up. I said, listen, man, this
just might be a little blip. You might come back.
You didn't feel real great about that at the time.
You thought I was just blowing smoke. You thought I
was just, you know, trying to maybe even patronize you
a little maybe. Yeah, And I wasn't. I I was
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legit trying to you know. I felt bad. I really
felt like I wanted to give something out of my
pocket tea at that moment, because I knew you were
you were hurting.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I was low.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
But look at you now, look at you now winner.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I know again, as we said, on a long enough timeline,
with these things, you know, everything changes.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Man.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
When you're down, You're like, I don't know how I'm
ever gonna get out of this now. It's like gambling.
You feel like the mojo has completely gone out of you.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Mm hmm, Like who am I? Why am I even here?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
How am I ever going to get back?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah? A little bit like Austin Powers felt when he
lost his mojo you know.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, well we do have some bonuses to give out,
so there is still some more money on the table
that you can grab, So there is still some hope.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Mm hmmmm hmm.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Let's talk about those. The first one the Raiders Reward.
This one goes to the movie with the best multiplier,
that's the movie that has the best legs beyond its
opening weekend. Patrick, you got this for Elio, Ilio, Ileo.
I still don't know how to say it, Ilio, Are
you sure about that?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I'm positive I should know all of my losers.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, Ilio had a multiplier of three point five, the
best of any movie, partially because it opens so low. Yeah,
but for that you get, you know, three point five
times five, so you get seventeen point five million added
to your total bounty. Some close calls on this one.
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Guys too had a multiplier of three point four and
F one had three point three, So those ones, you
know right there, couldn't quite get over the top. Next up,
we have the Wick Award.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, I'm thinking I'm back.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Named after of course, your buddy John Wick.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, who did not help me out. Well, you know,
we're never going to call this the Ballerino Award.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Probably not unless it's you know, taking away money instead
of giving. So with this one, we each at the
beginning of the summer guest what our team total would be.
Whoever came closer to their guests without going over Bryce's
right rules got a ten million dollar bonus. This one,
good Sir, went to me.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, I was off by.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
One hundred and seventy eight million, which sounds like a lot,
but you know, in the grand scheme, not that much.
You Patrick were off by two hundred and six million. Unfortunately,
I mean you wouldn't want to anyway, but unfortunately you
were also disqualified because your guess was over your actual total.
Not completely surprising.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, Also, ten million dollars wouldn't help me at all,
so it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Like I'll take your ten million. This one I think
helped you a little bit though. The indie Equalizer, so
certain indie movies you know that didn't come from the
major studios were eligible for a bonus of three times
they're gross up to one hundred million dollars. You're indie
pick Materialist maxed out this movie made thirty six million dollars,
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three times that you got that one hundred million dollar bonus.
So that movie was actually very profitable for.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
You, which it should be. It's got some big players
in there. It materialized, some might say, some money into
my pocket for this draft.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, that was a good one that turned out really
well for you. I am sad that I didn't get
that with my last pick, and instead I got Megan
two point zero and last we have one more bonus,
the trade back to the Future, a real wild card
that we're going to get to in a minute. But first,
of course, an annual tradition, we're going to hand out
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some awards. You want to talk about this.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Patchrick, Yeah, we're each going to give an award to
the other person for their picks. Two awards, Yeah, two
awards that we've you know, chosen for them specifically for
obvious reasons. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
These are not awards you would find anywhere else. These
are very specific to UH movies in marketing and this
draft here. I think I don't think you'll see these
awards coming up on any other award shows you would watch.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, so do you want to go first?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Sure, since you won, I mean, nobody knows that yet, right,
I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Since I potentially have won for the second year, and
I will go first. The first award I have for you,
Patrick is the I thought I was pulling out a
high powered assault weapon, but instead it misfired and shot
me in the ass award. Damn, somebody sat doing the ass. Okay,
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So this award primarily goes to Ballerina, a movie Lionsgate
and you thought would be another John Wick, but it
turned out to be a Wick that didn't catch fire.
At fifty eight million, this barely earned more than Karate
Kid Legends, but with a budget of eighty to ninety
million after a lot of reported reshoots. But this award
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also goes to Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning, a movie
that did the average of Mission Impossible movies one ninety
seven million, but many hope would do better since it
was marketed as the final installment, it had a prime
Memorial Day release slot of the usual July release, and
it had a huge budget. But mostly this award goes
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to you, Patrick for picking both Mission Impossible and Ballerina
way too early in the draft. You picked Mission Impossible
with the overall second pick in the draft, your first pick,
only for Mission to be the number sixth movie. This
summer and you picked Ballerina with the fifth overall pick,
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only for it to be the number eleven movie of
the summer, a minus six from its draft position. These
were some major misfires that ended up costing you the game.
That's why you received the I thought I was pulling
out a high power to assault weapon, but instead it
misfired and shot me in the ass. Award.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
That's uh, it makes me sad, you know, anytime you
get an award and you've lost this dramatically. Again, listeners,
you haven't heard the actual number yet, but let me
tell you something. It makes a lot of sense what
you're saying. It makes it makes it hurt a little
bit more. You know.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Sometimes the pain is good.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, the pain means you're still alive. And as they say,
pain is just something leaving the body.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
It's all your blood is leaving the body. Broach.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Oh yeah, it's a good it's a good ward a title.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, congratulations.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So mine are pretty obvious. I mean, you have just
all across the board. You've got movies to just swamp
swamped my picks. So my first award is the you
leave me and Lilo and Stitches Award for obvious reasons.
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Lelo and Stitch doing you know, four hundred and twenty
three million dollars, sad sad, sadly, we knew it was coming.
There's no bitterness there. But this fits for your picks
because Lelo and Stitch and How to Train Your Dragon,
you know, really brought the warm and fuzzies. You know.
I knew Lelo and Stitch was gonna be a hit.
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I knew that, but you had you had it, you
had it in the bag. The How to Train Your Dragon, though,
is where I start to reflect on my own How
do I put this without sounding so like, you know,
unbelievably depressing my own.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Oversight, miss blind spots.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Any other words you want to throw it there? Yeah, shortcomings,
my own shortcomings. I think that's what I would use,
you know, because it was in the box office. It
was a shortcoming. But you brought the fire breathing chaos,
and I appreciate that about you, Shad. So the you
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leave me and Lelo and Stitch's award goes to you.
And here's the thing. You surprised me this year. You
surprised me with your tenacity. He came back strong. You
were like, you know, I want to go for a
three peat. I think you're gonna try next year, So
we'll see, we'll see. But here's my award. That's what
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you got.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Well, I appreciate that. Now you know it's not a fluke.
You can't just sit back and you know it's all
gonna come to you like it did at one point
when you were the patriots of the Summer movie draft.
Mm hm, back at the good old.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Days, the good old days when I was riding high
five years in a row. Yeah, so long.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
But your award, you know, directly connects to my next award,
which is the one eyed boy with a name no
one is quite sure how to pronounce who gets burned
alive by a dragon award. Obviously, this award goes to Ilio,
a movie that, you know, despite some quality stats, failed
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to connect with the audience, says the way past Pixar
movies have, including a movie I picked a couple of
years ago, Elemental, which was disappointing when it made one
hundred and fifty million dollars. Elio made, you know, seventy three.
Ilio is both the story of your draft this year
and also a story of a lot of movies this summer.
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So it's the story of your draft in the sense
you chose Ilo over How to Train Your Dragon, which
would go on to gross two hundred and sixty two
million and leave One Eyed Elio in the dust a
big time miss. So also the story of a lot
of other movies that Ilio was clumped with in the
final standings twenty eight years later, Ballerino The Naked Gun.
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By all metrics, these were good, liked movies that just
could not make their way across the one hundred million mark.
There was a point in the draft when I mentioned
the possibility of taking Freakier Friday with my final pick,
which you know I unfortunately used on Megan two point zero,
and you talked about how terrible freaky your Friday looked.
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Freaky Your Friday ended up outperforming every movie on your
team except for Superman and Mission Impossible. Yeah, the movie
has made like eighty million dollars for that, and for
Elio you get the one eyed boy with a name
no one is quite sure how to pronounce, who gets
burned alive by a dragon award.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I mean it's fitting, you know, it's fitting. I feel
like a little one eyed boy who was burned alive.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Staring up at space, praying for the aliens to come
save you.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, and that little one eyed boy is sitting there,
he's in space, you know, the cold dead of space.
You know, it was sort of a smile because he
you know, at one point thought he might have a
comeback somewhere in there in that list, but he didn't,
and then he just froze to death, you know, as
everyone would in the cold dead of space. All Right, Well,
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you know, nothing like turning the knife as it's.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Well, you don't get these opportunities often. You gotta take them.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, I could tell you're enjoying it too, so that's good.
I appreciate that. My second award, I think it is
elaborately crazy with the naming conventions this year, mainly because
I don't care enough anymore, the overwhelming sadness then overwhelming
despair that has washed over me. So I have the
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Popcorn Paradox Award for you.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Shad Oh nice alliteration.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, this comes to you because this is a little
stab at the fact that you're coming back. You have
a film lineup that defies logic, because why did the
movie gods give it to you. I don't know. I
don't know why they all of a sudden thought you
should win this year. But somehow you know your unexpected
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wins make perfect sense. So it's the popcorn paradox award.
Only Shad could stack Megan two point zero, Lee Low
and Stitch and f one in the same universe and
make it feel oddly coherent and win. Okay, this is
the paradox right delightfully unpredictable for you, Shad as a draft,
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but it's a cinematic cocktail where crowd pleasers, chaotic sequels,
emotionally charged franchises, they swirl together. And this is the paradox.
How you won. I don't know. It's a luck of
the draw, is what I'll say. Next year, be as
it may, I might come back and make you eat
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some Hey, listen to what I say. You just may
just may well.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I hope you do have to they, you know, agulate
this year. Let's see if you can bring something a
little little better. I remember remember being in the draft
and being like, is this guy is he trying?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I can see where you can think that. Here's the thing.
Your team proves that cinematic synergy doesn't have to make sense. Okay,
it just has to make you grab another handful of popcorn,
which it did in your Popcorn Paradox Award.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
It's a great award and I accept it. I will
gladly watch the triple feature of Lelo and Stitch F
one and my Threegan two point zero Mathreegan. Well, now
that we've got the hardware, we've got our awards, we've
got most of our bonuses, let's get to the moment
everyone's been waiting for their dying to hear the final
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results the domestic box office totals for each team. My
total team total before bonuses was one point five seven
eight million. Then I got a ten million dollars bonus,
so I was at one point five eight I'm sorry,
one point five to eight billion.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah. Billion, billion billion is a is a big differentiator there, Yeah,
with a B, not an M.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah, ended up with one point five eight billion, Patrick,
how'd you do? What was your total?
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Do I even have to tell people? You do?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
It's part of the uh, it's part of the healing process.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, healing. Yeah, it's emotional trauma. Yeah. Sadly, this is
the year I didn't pass a billion dollars eight hundred
and thirty eight million dollars is my total. I got
one hundred and seventeen million dollar and a half million
dollar bonus put me at a nine hundred and fifty
five and some change million. I was about five hundred million,
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not five hundred million, five hundred thousand away from being
at a billion, which is sick sickening.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, that's kind of like the you know bar you
want to at least get to that billion mark.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah. Not being at a billion really hurts, you know,
because what that tells me is a billion just doesn't
go as far as it used to. I don't know
if that actually plays out, but you know, it just
I need to strive for more. I need to strive
for bigger. Maybe next year I must strive for like
a trillion.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I'd have to look back to see if any of
us have ever hit two billion. I don't know. Well,
the difference between our team totals ended up being six
hundred and thirty two million. That's a lot. I do
have some good news for you, though, looking back on history.
That's high, but not among the highest of all times.
It doesn't topple some of the numbers you beat me
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with in twenty twenty two you won by a margin
of seven hundred and fifty million. That was the top
Gun Maverick year. And in twenty twenty three you won
by six hundred and ninety five million. That was the
Barbie year. Yes, so it's not an all timer though
it's up there.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I thought it should have been the greatest of all time,
given though the difference between lineups. But you know, Superman
helped you out.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
And let me say, you know, at least I can
claim I've beat you with a lot more money and
star power and movie power and I mean really pretty
much everything in the past. So until you can come
back and beat me beyond seven hundred and fiftye hundred.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
And fifty million, seven hundred and fifty yep, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
That was painful pummeling maybe during your three peet Oh,
let's not put the.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Cart before the horse. I see what you're doing there.
Than we do have one more thing though, we said
we get back to the trade back to the Future bonus. Now,
this bonus, I don't know how relevant it is this year,
but we got to play it out. This bonus allows
each team to trade one movie on your list for
a movie from a previous year that finished in the
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domestic rankings the same number as your draft pick one
through fourteen. Here's the loophole. The year you get your
pick from will be chosen randomly. You can get any
year between nineteen eighty five and twenty twenty four, So
anytime in the past thirty years could be good, could
be bad depending on what year you get. So the
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big question facing both of us right now, will you
be trading back to the future? Patrick, This question comes
to you first. Will you be trading back to the future?
And if so, what movie on your list will you
be trading?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
So what did we decide? If I pick, you can
pick and if I don't pick, you're not gonna pick obviously, right.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I'll probably pick no matter what, I'll probably trade out, Megan.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
No matter what, You're gonna trade out, Megan. That's funny,
all right? Well, I mean, let's let's try it. I'll
throw out my number two pick. See what it gives me.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Generate a random year between eighty five and twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Nineteen ninety seven, nineteen ninety seven. That doesn't sound good,
Let's see.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
It goes with the uh theme of the year. The
number two movie was The Lost World Jurassic Park, which
made two hundred and twenty seven million dollars. Okay, so
two hundred and twenty eight if we round up so
slightly more, you made an extra thirty million or something
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like that.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Okay, Well, you know, so that puts me six hundred
and ten million behind, or so.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
It is six oh two almost almost even and change.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
All right, So that brings the discrepancy between our two
totals to six hundred and two million, so you know,
slightly more respectable. But you said you're going to trade
out Megan.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
It's the flaw on my list. So it's the fourteenth movie.
We'll see what we get for that. I think we
can get more than Megan. Now, so give me a random.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Year, okay, two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Two thousand and nine, number fourteen in two thousand nine, Oh,
this is great District nine. Oh that was a great
movie which made one hundred and three million dollars. Shit fuck,
that's quite an upgrade and great movie.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah, he'd be at like six hundred and eighty million.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Now, yeah, I'm gonna be a little ahead.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
I was really hoping you were gonna get something that
was gonna be like one million.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Let's see what would have happened if I would have
got the year nineteen eighty five. If I would have
got nineteen eighty five, fourteen number fourteen made Prizzies Honor
made twenty six six fifty So I still made more.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Than nineteen eighty five. With inflation too, that's way higher.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah that's crazy, You suck, Megan, what's your problem? So
then I'm at one point six six seven billion even change,
So the difference ends up being six hundred and eighty
one million and change. Nice District nine.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
That's a good movie too.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good back to
the future grab.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, I never would have thought fourteenth pick would do that.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Well, this is how the box office has changed. Obviously,
we had would we say, seven movies crossing one hundred million?
This year two thousand and nine had fourteen. That's insanity,
so double the number. Things have really changed.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
So congratulations, Chad. You deserved it. And I say that
loosely like, well, you really needed it, and that I
can definitely attest to. And I'm not saying I coughed
it up, but I feel like I'm coughing up some
you know, blood with the sadness. No, but congratulations, you
did a great job. All right, I'm gonna go see
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you later, not quite yet, just kidding.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
The big thing I will say is all time, we're
four and five. I've got a chance next year to
even this thing.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
After one point, it's seeming like you were going to
be so far away I wouldn't even be able to
see you in the distance.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I mean, that's a good goal to have, you know,
in life, is trying to tie it up with me.
I think about like athletes, you know, sometimes you look
to those goats and you're like, hey man, one day
I'm gonna be able to maybe tie up and you know,
get as many awards as that guy that's kind of
like you. Right now, I mean, right now, you're just
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thinking about tying it up. I mean, you can't really
think that far ahead. You know that you're gonna beat me.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I like that. You know, you lost a couple of
years and it's really taken away your cockiness. Glad you've
come back down to earth.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, now this is all in good fun. Listeners,
you probably know there's not one since Seer competitive Bone
in either of our bodies. We're not thinking about this
draft in a serious way whatsoever, so on a very
personal level and also you know, lighthearted. What did you
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think of the summer? Did you think it was a
good movie summer?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I thought it was okay, you know, it ended up
being kind of uninspiring. I was hoping for a little more.
You talk to the beginning, it seemed like there was
a lot of different kind of movies at We had
action and comedy and family movies and horror and indie movies,
which seemed like more than we got last year. But
I don't know that a lot of them delivered all
that much, or especially we didn't get like the big movies.
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They're the movies everybody was kind of like buzzing about.
We got one. We should mention that we both kind
of missed on or not a lot of people saw coming,
which was weapons that kind of has a lot of
people talking now and ended up crossing that hundred million mark. Yeah,
you know, neither one of us drafted that one. You know,
if you got that at number seven, that would have
been a good grab. But we we didn't get a
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lot of those movies this summer. I think we had
more of those before the summer. We had like Minecraft
and Sinners, which are kind of those movies, before we
even got to the summer seasons. I think it was
you know, moderate, what about you? Where do you stand?
I agree with you to some degree.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I there are a lot of movies on this list, though,
this summer movie list that I do want to see,
which I can say with certainty has not been the
case in every other summer you know. Like you mentioned Weapons,
I'm just like, I didn't know it was coming out,
and we probably should have maybe we talked about it.
I don't even know. I didn't know what to expect.
So stuff like that, and even if they're not great
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box office straws, there's a lot of stuff I still
want to see because it looks interesting or it looks
it looks different, you know. That's the thing. Like there
were some of these movies like Fantastic Four, like I
do kind of want to see what they did with it,
mainly because of some of the actors and stuff. And
I was kind of interested by that. But I'm more
(38:58):
interested in some of the movie that aren't the big
box office draws I mentioned. Yeah, I think even in
the draft, like Toxic Avenger. And there's that movie Sketch,
which I saw some trailers for and I'm like, that's weird.
It's like a kid movie but also kind of psychological
in a way. I don't I don't really know how
to put that one. So there's like some of those
(39:21):
tinier movies that I think are a draw to me.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
What movies did you end up seeing this summer?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I saw a lot. I actually for my summer. Normally
I don't get to see that many. But I saw four.
I saw F one, I saw Mission Impossible, I saw Superman,
and I saw The Naked Gun. I gave you a
little bit of money if I see an F one,
which was a very good movie. I liked that movie.
Out of those, I'd say Naked Gun. It gave me
something I was looking for, like a dumb comedy, and
(39:48):
it also had a little bit of nostalgia there from
the original Naked Gun. I thought that one gave me
the most out of those, even though I liked them all.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
I got one more than you. I saw five this summer,
which I think was less than last year. We saw
a lot of like movies as a family last year.
This year I saw Lee Low and Stitch, Superman twenty
eight years later, The Bad Guys Too, and The Naked Gun.
I agree with you on the Naked Gun. That was
great to see a comedy in the theater, and there
(40:16):
were just a lot of laughs in there. I mean,
the laugh a minute comedy. Yeah, give me that all day.
You know, the snowman montage in that movie is a
chef's kiss. But my favorite movie that I saw summer
it was probably twenty eight years later, which was just
a really odd, interesting movie. I'm glad it, you know,
made as much money as it did because it was
(40:38):
just kind of a bizarre I could see this coming
out another time and like making like thirty five million
dollars or something like that. So I'm glad it kind
of got as much as it did or as many
people went to see it. And there's another one that's
supposed to be coming I think next year.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, and those are the ones I missed seeing, Like
I really wanted to see that and Ballering in the
Theater just didn't get around to it. And then, you know,
the other one that's on my list, which I actually
do want to see is the Material Lists. You know, again,
another one of those movies that wouldn't be my typical
pick to go see, but I would like to see it.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah. I ended up watching The Phoenician Scheme at home,
and that's what I wish I would have seen in
the theater. Good Wes Anderson.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Flick, Yeah, that's on the peacock or something, right, yeah, pickcock. Yeah.
So it's overall, you know, good Summer movie Draft Awards season.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Another one in the books. We'll see what we get
next year. Can't wait until we hit May again and
we get to do this all over.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
I'm psyched. I'm bringing the A game next year.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
You're ready. You're gonna be ready for it, I think. Yeah,
two years once you get kind of like trudged through
the mud a little bit, Yeah, I think you're gonna
be ready.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Make no mistake. Next year it's on like Donkey Kong.
All right, Well, listeners, hopefully you played along this year
and let us know how you're drafted. If you played
along like you should have, because you know, we want
you guys in the trenches, you know, get a stake
in the game always. But if you didn't, that's cool too.
(42:12):
If you just listen for entertainment value, that's fine. You
get to hear us raz each other a little bit. Anyway.
That's it for this episode of Movies and Marketing until
next time, and until next summer. Let's fade to black.
I'll be back.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
He's not coming back.
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