May 19, 2026 • 55 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
In a world where movies rely on marketing more than
ever to connect with audiences, one podcast aims to make
sense of it all. This is movies and marketing.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Next Saturday Night, where's sending you that to the future?
Go ahead, make my day? How about now, you're crazy
Dutch bastard.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
What we've got here.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Is failure your mill gate take them.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
The ground where a fresh hole of pw for we
might as well with time, I am an f B
I agent. It's that time again, Shad. What time is
that is Summer Draft town baby? Whoo whoo?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
My god, what a surprise because I don't prepare for
these episodes in any way, so totally caught off guard,
and I don't look forward to this like it's Christmas Day,
big gear though. Oh on the Summer movie Draft. It's
our ten year anniversary.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Happy birthday, neft to present in ten.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Years of the Draft. That's crazy. Ten years of our lives.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Devoted to this thing that I think is probably our
most favorite episodes of the year, where we get to
be competitive and yet just have a lot of fun.
Because it lasts, it's like one episode, well technically two
if you count the Award show wrap up. Yeah, but
two episodes that basically span in an entire summer, you know,
(01:36):
because we're checking the box office numbers all year.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, we're constantly tracking, poking each other with updates like ooh,
that didn't open. How I hoped.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
A little bit of smack talk happening as we go
through our daily lives. I'll be sitting somewhere just happen
to see an article that says this tanked.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, reviews on this one coming out are bad, and
you're like, ooh, that's not good. Yeah, or you're hoping.
You're like, well, I still got this coming in July.
There's a chance.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, there's a lot of hope left. And then when
you get to that point where you realize you're snuffed
for the year, you start to reevaluate your life choices.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, it's amazing how much my life, my everyday life,
all year round, depends on this draft.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I think the feeling of knowing you're losing the draft
is a lot like when you have your favorite sports
team and they've just lost the big thing, right, could
be the playoffs, it could be the super Bowl, it
could be the NBA Championship, whatever it is, the World Cup, right,
you're going through that moment and it's just like this pit. Yeah,
(02:49):
a little sadness but doesn't ruin your life.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
But you know, yeah, how am I ever going to
get back there? Yeah? Yeah, so happy thoughts to I
really start thinking off here. The mathematicians out there might
be asking, is this technically the eleventh year? Shut up?
You're wrong. COVID through us for a loop. There was
no challenge in twenty twenty because we had no summer movies.
(03:14):
We couldn't do it. Yeah, it was a rough year.
It was hard that way. You know, it's nice to
have a break from everything, but it was devastating to
lose the draft. It was so currently this grudge match
that we have going. The series stands four to five,
four wins to five wins. You still have that edge.
(03:35):
You still got those five wins. But as listeners know,
longtime listeners, I've been creeping on a comeup. Yeah, two
years in a row, right, two in a row after
a long disastrous, very very depressing. As listeners well also
might remember losing streak from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty three.
(03:57):
You know, I'm back, I'm relevant again.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Good. Yeah, it was necessary too, you know, like I
say all the time, I mean, when you're at the top,
there's really no place but to go down. We joked
for many years like, as I was just winning and
winning and winning, that this is just a blip, maybe
that I was just having a little bubble and that
bubble was gonna eventually pop. And that's kind of what
(04:20):
happened the last two years. I just tanked both years.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I mean, the odds are nobody can win forever. My
worry was, I'm like, how long is this blip? This
five year blip? Is this a twenty year blip? What
am I looking at here?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Honestly, it's been fun losing, you know. I know this
sounds like me just saying this because I lost, But
when you're winning that many years in a row, you
start to feel a little like bad. Yeah, I mean
I'm not I'm not kidding, you know, because I know
we both enjoy this. I knew you were into it too,
(04:53):
and winning is fun, don't get me wrong. But when
you see the other person kind of like sh you're
just like that.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Poor soul over there, can't get a win?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Please suh?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Please?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Can I just have a little more in my box office?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Tempaz and you know, our rules, the way we have
them set up give the winner a little advantage, so
when you're on the other side, you're almost lose some control, right, Yeah,
when you're coming into the draft the next year, you're
kind of at the whims a little bit of the
other person, which changes the game a little.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yeah, and we've changed the game a little bit over
the years, as everyone knows, when we first started, the
draft was kind of set up a little differently than
it is today. Yeah, we didn't have bonus structures the
way we have today, and I think it's just made
it a little more creative and fun for us and
maybe even for the listeners. You could tell us, we've
heard some pretty positive things. Now, I'm not gonna lie
(05:50):
our bonus structures. If you're not really paying attention to
the entire episode, like most podcasts, you know, where you're
kind of coming in and out like you're doing something
and you're like, wait, what, how do does that bonus
structure work? It could get a little confusing. We have
taken the liberty of posting what those bonus structures are
on the show notes and stuff. So sometimes if you
go back to the show notes, it helps give some
(06:13):
context to how our bonus structure works. But we try,
we try to describe it, at least for you so
you understand what's going on.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, we briefly go through those things, but we don't
want to get too much into the weeds because we
want to get to the you know, the meat, the
actual draft, So we kind of skim over it and assume,
you know, people catch up in the end, which they
seem to have. So let's get to the rules of
the game. Patrick, how does this whole thing work?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
The game is pretty simple. Each team, so Shad's team,
my team. We each picked seven movies, and that team
whose movies have the most or the highest combined domestic
box office total at the end of the summer wins keynote.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
They're domestic, not worldwide. We're not international yet. Maybe someday,
but not right now. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah, Then there's the specific rules that we have to follow.
So what defines the summer movie season. We've talked about
this many times in the past. Any movie released in
the US from Memorial Day weekend through Labor Day weekend
is eligible. You know, that fluctuates every year, but this
year it's Friday, May twenty second to Friday September fourth.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, pretty wide this year.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Yeah, it makes a big difference because there's a lot
of people who say, well, that's what do you mean, Like,
why didn't you include this movie or that movie? Every
year we say it it's Memorial Day to Labor Day,
so whatever that is, we stick to that, and that
keeps us honest because otherwise we've had years where we
could like include these big box office blowouts and we
didn't because it didn't follow the rules.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, Michael, not a summer movie. Came out at the
end of April.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
It's not a summer movie.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Back in the day, Guardians, I think was like one
of those that we had to eliminate because it was
too early.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, early May. It's not summer.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah, so only theatrical releases. Streaming services we haven't really
been able to verify numbers, so we eliminated those. And
then when we record our final results, if the latest
released Picked in the draft comes out before August fifteenth,
we will tally results until September fifteenth. If the latest
(08:21):
release Picked comes out after August fifteenth, then we tally
results until September thirtieth. It's based on your picks essentially. Yeah,
that's a pretty important rule because for those who want
to listen to the wrap up show, that wrap up
show can fluctuate a lot of times. We post that
wrap up show like October, right because September we record
(08:46):
the episode sometimes September, and then you know, by the
time we edit it and stuff like that. So for
those out there, you know, you look for the wrap
up show, probably October.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Ish early October.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, h yeah, it's pretty safe to say that, you know,
you'll get the results in that space of time. All right, Well,
drafting the teams, how does that work? We have a
rule that's pretty significant.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Rule of the game that we made and it really
has kind of changed the game since we inserted it.
Last year's winner, we're like, what do you get for winning?
You have to get something that gives you, you know,
an advantage, makes it worth your while. Here's what it is.
Last year's winner gets to choose between taking the first
pick or getting picks two and three consecutively. This is
(09:31):
a big deal. So you can choose to go first,
but then the other person's going to get two and three,
so you're going to be for one and four or
you can go two and three and you know the
other person will then be one and four. So there's
a strategy there, So that kind of comes into play.
As the winner last year, this is going to be
my choice to make here as we step into the
(09:53):
draft shortly, So big deal, still mullying over in my mind.
You know, there's so many things to think about there.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
That is like the best part and also the most
stressful part, I think for both parties, right, for both teams, yes,
because when you are the winner and you have that choice,
it's an incredible amount of pressure to figure out what's
going to be the right call there, because that can
make or break you. Because I think there were a
couple of years right where I gave you the first pick.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, and then I blew it.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
But you just I think you just did a little
gamesmanship there, and you're like, man, if you're that winner,
it's a lot of stress on your shoulders, a lot
to carry it really is. You're getting kind of thrown
into a situation. So the stress of that is like, okay,
well if I get two and three or I get one,
(10:47):
whatever that is, It's like you got to make choices
on the fly at that point. Yeah, you can't predict
what you're gonna do before you go in.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, you can have an idea of what you're gonna
do based on what happens, but you know, you don't
know exactly what's going to happen. So it leaves things
kind of up in the air in a way that
just creates discomfort.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yeah, added complexity to your strategy. So we talked about
our bonuses. The first one we have, we call it
the Raiders Reward, a little bonus for the movie with
what we call the best legs, the movie that makes
the most money beyond its opening weekend. So say it
makes like fifty million its opening weekend and then it
makes six hundred million going forward. Movies like I don't know,
(11:29):
I think of like Top Gun Maverick that like it
made a lot of money opening weekend, but that it
played and played week after week, it kept like hauling
in money. I don't know if it was the bonus
that year, but something like that. That's kind of something
that wins the Raiders Reward. What's our next one? What's
our next bonus?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Patrick?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
The next one is the Wick Award, which is named
after John Wick.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
The Wick Award is.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Each team will guess the total box office before bonuses
during the draft, and then the team that comes closest
to hitting the target without going over gets a bonus.
Kind of like John Wick. You know when he does
those headshots, he's always hitting his target.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Can we hit the target?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, he can fire a gun blindly though, hit is guy.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah. We tend to be a little off and you
can't go over. That always makes things a little dicey.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
The price is right rules. I love that because it
really does keep you honest. I can't go crazy with
my numbers, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, but you want to get you still want to
get close, so you can you can get it. The
next one is pretty important one, I think, or it's
become more important in recent years. It's the Indie Equalizer.
With their final pick of the draft, each team has
the option to select from a list of films released
by independent studios. So not your Warner Brothers, not your
Paramount you know, these are from your your A twenty four,
(12:54):
your Focus films, your Angels studios, your smaller studios. And
if you choose one of these movies, you are awarded
the gross of the movie, plus a bonus of three
times the gross of the movie. This is where we
get a little into the mat. So if a movie
makes fifteen million, you get that fifteen million, and then
you also get a forty five million dollar bonus, you know,
(13:17):
three times at fifteen, so you end up with sixty
million for that fifteen million dollar movie. This allows the
indie movies to kind of play in the big leagues
with the other guys, at least for one pick been
pretty important. I think you got Materialists last year. You
got a good amount of good chunk of change for this.
I know I had like Long Legs a couple of
years ago, and I got a significant amount of money
(13:38):
for this. There is a cap on the bonus for
this that is one hundred million. You can't get beyond
that for the bonus amount, Yeah, which is I think fair. Yeah,
pretty generous.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
We thought that the cap needed to be there because
you know, if the movie does one hundred million, you
can't get three hundred million for that indie movie, yeah
on top of the hundred Yeah, it'd be ludicrous. The
last one is trade back to the Future. This is
the one that can really maybe do some damage someone's
(14:09):
whole world. Essentially at the end of the draft. At
the end of the summer, when we tally the results,
each of us can choose to use this option with
one of their picks, any one of them. With it,
you basically trade back in time for a movie that
finished in the domestic rankings the same number as your picks,
anywhere between one and fourteen. Here's the twist. The year
(14:32):
will be randomly picked from the years nineteen eighty five
to twenty twenty five. Techniques twenty twenty five. Yeah, by
spinning a wheel, some years could give you a great result,
while O there's you know, you might just shoot yourself
in the foot, but if you're doing it, it's usually
for a reason, so you have sometimes nothing to lose.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, an underperforming movie. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
And clearly this is named for the greatest time travel
movie of all time, Back to the Future.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It hasn't happened yet, but I'm gonna call it now.
I think this is gonna be the year the trade
back to the future is gonna decide the winner of
the draft.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I mean, you might be right, like if you gave
up number one and you randomly got Barbie. I don't
know if that's actually true or if that could be
possible or Maverick right.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, you could sail away with a win.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
You could, or if you make an exchange of some
sort that gives you, like an extra two hundred or
three hundred million dollars mm hmm, that could change the game,
especially if the other person then does it and lose
it somehow loses money on it.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah, that's true. They're like, oh, now I got to
do it, and then they lose money. Our final rule
of sorts, it's not a real rule, but we like
to smack talk.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, it's part of the game. It's not there's no
fouls in this game. Yeah, it's more of a like
a suggestion. It's not a rule. It's a philosophy. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
So all that, you know, being said, everything out on
the table there. I think it's time to begin the
twenty twenty six Summer Movie draft. All right, Patrick, it's time.
(16:25):
It's time to get into this. It's time to do
the dirty business of drafting our teams. As you know,
I have a decision to make as last year's winner,
the reigning champion, the holder of the crown, if you will,
and that is to decide whether to take the first
pick or take picks two and three. And this year
(16:47):
I'm going to take picks two and three. It's going
to leave you with the number one pick in the draft.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
That's that right there.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I wasn't expecting that. Okay, what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I don't know if I've done this yet. In the
times I've won, there hasn't been that many times.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
I think both times I've taken the number one, they're
accumulating they are past two years. See this is me
smack talking.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
See.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
By the way, for listeners out there, I probably need
to say this again. I've said it in past years,
but we do have the full list of movies that
were our options on our show notes page, like a
link to them. And I only say that because you
may not be seeing the choices that we have in
front of us, but we know what our choices are, Like,
(17:36):
We've got a whole list of movies to choose from dozens.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah. No, that's a good point. If you want to
kind of follow along mm hm, you could do that
on that page see what movies are available, and you know,
kind of yell at home and be like, what why
are you picking that now? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
And I also think That's kind of fun because like,
if you were listening, you could go on this and
see this list, and what would you choose? You know
what I mean? Like, I think it would be kind
of interesting sting to know what your list looks like,
what your team you would draft looks like, because we're
just two guys making up this draft, you know, together.
So all right, So number one, I think I have
(18:13):
to go with Spider Man Brand New Day.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Spiders have three life cycles.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
When between cycles, it can't leave the spier vulnerable to threats.
We are faced with a danger but we can't control and.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
For those Spiders who make it through, it amounts to
a kind of reaper.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Brand New Day?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Is it a brand New Day? Because it seems pretty
similar to the other days.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Here's the thing, I think there's a lot of people
who want to see this movie. It's like probably the
strongest box office weapon because Tom Holland back as Peter Parker,
Like this is arguable the most reliable superhero left in
the superhero universe right now. I think, because like the
(19:06):
fatigue is real.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, I agree with you on that. We've seen the
superhero fatigue that's real. But somehow Spider Man is unaffected. Yeah,
he's like his own alley. You know, the animated movies
have done well. The last series did well. I think
he's kind of in his own lane.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah, there's something lovable about that character. And they've done
a good job with Tom Holland as that character of
really giving it some longevity. I think the thing that
hurt it in the past was they would restart reboot
every single time with a new character. You're like, I
do not need to see how Spider Man was created again,
you know what I mean? But they tend to fall
into that hole, and they didn't have to do that
(19:44):
with Tom Holland. I think now they're in a spot
where they can keep building off of this storyline.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So yeah, I do kind of feel a little bad
for him, Like he couldn't really do anything else, so
he's just like, I just got to go back to
doing Spider Man.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
I mean, he have that amazing movie with Mark Wahlberg
based off a video game.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Oh Uncharted.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Oh so bad.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah that was terrible. You know, I can't give you
too much flak. As I was debating whether to take
the number one or not, this was probably what I
would have taken number one. It's debatable between that or
what I'm going to take number two, but I think
this is it. I think this is gonna probably be
the number one movie this summer, though I don't think
it's gonna blow up like the last Spider Man did,
the one that had like, you know, we're bringing back
(20:29):
all the Spider Man from all the movies. That one
kind of had a gimmick. This one doesn't quite have that.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, I don't think it does.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
There's been some online love chatter things like that, so
maybe it'll do good.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Maybe it'll surprise us and or not surprise us, because
I know it's gonna do great. Yeah, I think this one.
I think it's a pretty solid pick. I think people
are gonna be on board for Brand New Day With
the second pick, though, I'm gonna take Toy Story five.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Oh Bunny, there's a package for you to thank you. Hi.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
There, I'm Lily pat Let's play.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Extinction not again.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I think this is the only other movie that's in
competition for possibly being the top movie of the summer.
This and Spider Man were the two that I was like,
it's probably one of those movies.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, there's no doubt that it's gonna do well. But
it's like flirt. It's always flirting with this, like fatigue this.
You know, people talk about it like do we really
need another toy story?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, but then people go see it. There's quite a
few movies on this list I'll probably say that about
and I'd probably even put Spider Man in that bucket
a little bit. But yeah, I would have been fine
if they retired Toy story after Toy Story three, which
I thought, you know, ended it nicely, but never gonna
do that. There's gonna be ten toy stories, you know,
at some point we're just gonna keep going until there's
(21:58):
no milk left in the teat.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
You theoretically could tell that story like an anthology because
there's always toys, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
But then you have no you know, character. They always
add in a new character each like this time we
got the iPad or the tablet of whatever sort. It
is the electronic, the dangerous electronic who's killed toys, which
is an interesting angle, but you know, you got to
have your central characters for people to grab onto.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
True, all right, so what's then what's your thursions you
get this?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
So third pick, I'm going you know, in a different direction.
Maybe kind of a surprise here. I don't know. I'm
going with the Odyssey.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Who's looking after your wife? And Simon?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Do you see my dad is coming home.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
And us.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Bringing it all? Christopher Nolan's much hyped.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Your love for christ for Nolan is a real thing, just.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
So you know. Weird though it's not I mean, it
isn't this draft because I picked Oppenheimer over Barbie, which
some would say was questionable. Yeah, since it made half
the money, even though it made a lot of money.
But I don't even love his movies that much. I'm
always interested in his movies, but I don't know that
I love them. But this one has a lot going
for it. Locked up Imax for a few weeks, which,
(23:22):
by the way, Spider Man is not getting because the
Odyssey is gonna have him locked down. Yeah, and it's
got every actor in Hollywood in it, and it's coming off.
You know, Nolan doing Oppenheimer, he's like a brand name now,
he's like a Spielberg.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
The only thing that could hurt this though. It's a
three hour epic based on the Odyssey. Yeah, Greek mythology,
the names of the characters, it's gonna be hard for
people to talk about this because it feels a lot
like a literature assignment. When you go to a movie
like this, you know what I mean, you got to
think about, Okay, who is this, what's the what's their thing?
(23:59):
You know, because you know you're gonna have the people
who are very maybe educated, worldly in their literature exploits,
you know, like the things I've read, And then there's
gonna be people who will be like, I don't what
you know.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I don't think people are gonna think about it that way.
I think they're just gonna be like battle scenes, big screens.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yeah that's true. I mean there are gonna be those
who go to see that. I want to see it
in Imax because he shot this thing for Imax.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah, so I don't know how big it's gonna get exactly.
There's probably other movies that'll do better, but this is
one I wanted to grab because I feel like it's
got some potential to blow up. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Plus you can say that you I think you've had
every Christopher Nolan movie since he started making movies.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I'm trying to think what else besides Oppenheimer if I've
ever grabbed one. Don't did I have Dunkirk'?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I think you did? Did I? I think you did
have Dunkirk.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yes, I'm telling you you had tons of Christopher Nolan
movies and you're all right. I'm in the Nolan though.
What can I tell you?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Maybe you could have him on the cast, you and him, buds.
I'm the longtime supporter, all right. So then my pick finally, Yeah,
you're back.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
You're back.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I made this mistake long ago. I talk about this
on every summer draft since I made the mistake. But
I need a kid's movie, so I'm gonna do minions
and monsters.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Shaves. You have a real gift for filmmaking.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
I'm Gary Orkham, Oliver Magna Ekabad the Deceiver, but my
friends just call me Goomy for sure. I know the
perfect monsters for your moving Let's go. You love those minions,
I you know I don't like the minions. But here's
the benefit of this movie this year for me is
that it does couple nicely with one of my favorite things,
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which are monsters. The agency monster is unlimited. I mean,
you can't get better than that, this pairing. So anyway,
I think it should be fun. The Minions seem like
they make cash all the time. I don't know why
those little guys make cash, but they do. You know,
you talk about me and Nolan, I feel like you
and the Minions. Anytime there's a Minions movie out, you're
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on it. Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
And I remember it was like the Minions Rise of Guru.
I'm like, there's no way anybody's going to see that,
and then it made like three hundred million dollars. Then
another one came out and made like three hundred million dollars.
There's no doubt it's gonna make money. But you know,
exactly like the ceiling of a Minions everybody's gonna go.
They come out Fourth of July weekend, but they're mostly
for like, you know, little kids and people throwing bananas.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
If there's any one takeaway for picking a Minions movie,
it's that you don't pick it because you respect cinema.
You pick it because you respect capitalism. Yeah, you respect
the money. I mean, it's solid. You can't deny that
it's got a brand. You know, people are coming for it.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah. So I'm up on the fifth pick, and with
this one, I don't have to do something that pains
me that I don't want to do you're talking about
you know, you're talking about the Minion. Yeah, in capitalism,
I'm gonna have to go with Moana live action. Okay,
beyond the.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Out reef an evil done, this has found us fine, MAUI.
We stole the heart MOI.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I don't know if I told myself I would never
pick a live action remake, but in my heart it
hurts to take one of these Disney live action movies,
especially one of these that I think this one looks
pretty rough, but I think people will also go see it.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
I mean we've talked about this over the years, Like
the live action stuff, it feels like they shouldn't do
any money, and then they do lots of money. Always
there was one there was an exception, I think to
this one year where something didn't do quite as well
as it probably should have. I can't remember what it was.
But then you get this Moana's beloved. So I have
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a feeling people are gonna just gonna go to this one,
maybe multiple times. Because of the songs.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, I think the music at least by this like
recent generation. I know when my kids were growing up,
this was like one of my favorites. It had like
the best music, and to see a trash like this unfortunate.
I was really hoping with the last pick you would
actually take Mowana and then I could take Minions because
to me, they're kind of interchangeable and how much they're
gonna make. Yeah, maybe Mowana has a higher ceiling. I
don't know. Maybe I'm just have a bad outlook on
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it because I'm like, ah, looks awful. But I agree.
I think it's just it's gonna print money.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Yeah, I think it does have a higher ceiling, though,
I will say that about it because kids know it
and parents know it.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
And the songs.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Everyone knows the songs to some degree, you know, even
if you don't know all the lyrics. You know, like
I'm sorry, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
You're welcome, You're welcome, You're welcome. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
See, I clearly am not the audience. Yeah, yeah, you'll
be their opening day. You're like, oh, the rock looks
so good that wig.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I do like the rock. I do like me some rock.
I think he's a good guy, all right, so tough, tough, tough, tough.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Okay, then I am gonna go with disclosure day. People
have a right to know the truth.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
It belongs to seven billion people. What is it?
Speaker 4 (29:22):
You won't believe me if I told you so.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
I'm gonna show you.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
What are you gonna do? Full disclosure to the whole
world all what? Hmmm? This is Steven Spielberg. He's returning
to sci fi for this movie. I mean, I think
it's gonna be a strong, strong, strong effort at the
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box office. It's about an alien invasion, it's a thriller.
It's humanity's response to some event. Yeah, it's still pretty
m They've kept a lot of it under wraps. We've
gotten a little bit of it.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
The trailers have been all right. I'm very hopeful for
this one. I hope it's big. I hope it's great.
Can't help a wonder if you took it a little
too early. Is it gonna make this much money? I
worry that people don't think about Spielberg anymore like we
think about Spielberg.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yeah, you might be.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
You could be right at that.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
I think it definitely shows my age that I'm like
disclosure day Steven Spielberg. But I will say this, Steven
Spielberg isn't the reason why this movie looks good to me.
This movie looks interesting and it's kind of crazy weird,
and like I liked the original trailer.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I was like, what is this? This this speaks my interest.
You know that's true. People are into aliens and conspiracies
right now.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Yeah, And I feel like Emily Blunt everything she touches,
I mean, Quiet Place, all those movies, not Jungle Cruise
or whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
No, not Jungle Cruise with the Rock. Yeah, the one
I paid like thirty dollars to rent at home during COVID.
Heank's great.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Yeah, So yeah, Disclosure Day. I think it's a winner
Winter Chicken Dinner.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful, even though it's on your team.
I want that one to win, all right. With the
next pick, the seventh pick, going with another alien thing,
you could say, I mean, maybe this is aliens, okay,
talking about the Mandalorian and Grogu.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Thanksters, more criminals, long live the Empire.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
We'll take out every bad guy in your.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Deck of cards.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
This isn't about revenge, it's about preventing another war.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So this one, I don't know. I think it's worth
taking a shot here. With the seventh pick, I think it's.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Gonna make a couple hundred million. But I know people
are not, you know, huge on Star Wars right now.
I know it's not at its peak. Yeah, but I
think people still love the Mandalorian. I think that's got
some love. I don't know if the TV showed a
movie thing is confusing to people or will turn people
off from coming to the theater, but I think this
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one is good for at least some money. I don't
think it's going to be like Star Wars's biggest movie ever.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
I mean there's like a part of me though wonders
is this gonna be like The Diamond and the Rough,
where we don't envision it doing really well and then
it does insane numbers because maybe this sort of lightning
in a bottle because the Mandalorian show, people loved it.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
It's good. It's one of the better Star Wars things
that's come out.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Yeah, it's kind of started them on this track of
like telling stories that were original outside of the main characters.
And yeah, I have this feeling that like it's gonna
be one of those situations where there's gonna be all
these Star Wars fans that come out, but like this
is the greatest thing. And the people who just come
out to see gro goopb yoda. Yeah, like the cuteness factor.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
It could be kind of like Guardians of the Galaxy
where you're like, what is this and then it turned
you're like, oh, this is way better than I thought
it would be. And then you know, it gets kind
of that little bit of water mouth going. And it's
got prime Memorial Day weekend opening, which has always been
a good one for you know, kicking off the summer.
You get you make a little extra money there. I know.
(33:24):
I think Mission Impossible was in there last year and
didn't quite set the world up fire, but still made
like two hundred million dollars, and I think if it
does that here, I'm pretty happy with that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
And given that there's a flood of Star Wars stuff
that has been on Disney. Plus this is technically, I
think the first Star Wars movie in seven years, so
this might be something that it has going for it.
All Right, So well, then you know, I guess I
have to pick the other alien. I'll do super Girl.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Where'd You're not gonna find your people? Yeah, well that's
the same clerk.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I have no people.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
It's kind of the Yellow Hills immerses my Innocence Company.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Could it do money? I think it'll have money thrown
at it a little bit because of James Gunn. There's
gonna be the lovers and the haters of James Gunn
stuff in the DC universe and blah blah blah. But
I think, you know, to maybe get a little love
because of the Superman. I don't know, we'll see. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
This one's a big question mark for me. Obviously, Superman
did really good last year. I think you had that
one last year made like three hundred million dollars. I
definitely don't see this doing that. The trailers have looked
all right, this is like what you were just talking
about with the Mandalorian.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Though.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I almost think people are like kind of already dismissing it,
and maybe it'll come out and turn out to be like, oh,
that's actually a really fun movie and then it does
better than expected. But right now, I just feel like
it's not even positioned to succeed that well. I don't
know if it's been marketed that well.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Maybe the movie will turn out better than I'm perceiving
it to be, but I just don't know, And is
a too soon after Superman? I know that was the intent,
but yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Mean it's supposed to and I mean it does open
in June twenty sixth, so it's got plenty of time
to accumulate for the year if if it does do anything,
which is my hope it does something.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
So yeah, I don't know. We'll see see if it flies.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
It does have the dog too, right, yeah, the cuteness
factor of the dog crypto.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
People like the dog all right. With the ninth pick,
I'm gonna go comedy, a rare comedy because they don't
come out anymore. Scary movie.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
We beg there's a serial killer on the loop killer today.
I had been preparing for this for years. Hello Mother,
dance again, miss every time, be sure to thank you.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
That's a scary pick. It's like part six, the six
scary movie to come out there. They're just calling it
scary movie, which I think is a good choice. These
movies that parody, you know, horror films. We haven't had
one since twenty thirteen. Wayne's brothers involved. They're back. We
have a lot of new horror movies to make fun of.
I think this will find an audience. Obviously, the jokes
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if you've watched any of the trailers, real dumb, but
I think people go for that. I think they'll be
in the mood for that. It's the premise of it.
It's like the Naked Gun, right. The jokes are dumb,
but they're they're sort of funny in that way. I
feel like people may want to remember scary movie more
than they want to buy tickets for scary movies.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Nostalgia is good, but I don't know if this movie
will do great because of that.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
It's just, yeah, we've had these bringbacks though, where if
it's over a certain point, you know, if it's like
from the two thousand around there, and then you bring
it back and it's been like fifteen plus years, seems
to do alright. Yeah, we'll see how it plays. The
comedy part is almost what worries me more. We just
haven't had a big comedy hit in a while. Yeah,
(37:10):
that is true.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
It's pretty brutal. You know, you want to pick a comedy,
you want to do that. I have one that I
thought about, and then I'm like, I don't know if
I'm gonna so I may or may not still pick
this but I'm just like comedy is.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
It's a tough one for me because of it. Yeah,
you probably do the same thing too, where it's like,
rather than look at your picks almost individually, you look
at it as like a whole. Yeah, like, how am
I diversifying my portfolio? Here?
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Mm hmm my next pick? Since you picked that, does
not feel like I've diversified it because I'm gonna pick.
I think I'm picking Masters of the Universe.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Oh no, why did you send me away? I wanted
you to be safe, so they send you to a
place and that they never find yet. I know it
sounds crazy, but that sort is kind of showed me
the way open up.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
I know it's a very dangerous, dangerous, dangerous pick. I
don't really know how else to say it, other than
part of me thinks maybe, just maybe this has some
of that nostalgia and the fans of Masters in the Universe,
and it's like comic book stuff, you know, It's like
why does Supergirl do numbers? Why does Spider Man do numbers?
(38:33):
It's kind of like built in fandom. So I'm hoping
for that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
This one.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I'm glad you took it. It was a stay away
from me. I'm like, this is with Supergirl and the
Mandalori and I'm like, could there be something surprising here
that kind of grabs people? But on the surface of it,
I'm like, this is a big time bomb. Yeah, this
movie's gonna this isn't Gonnahiroshima. I mean it might, but
it also might have the power of Gray Skull, So
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I might have the power if you pull this one off.
You got something here that would be a big surprise
of the summer. If people are like, it's actually pretty
good and it's different and it's funny, and.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
You know, everybody's just gonna go crazy about all of
the different aspects of this movie and it's going to
become the Barbie of the Year. Yeah, Oh that would
be great, because Barbie won me some awards that year.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Barbie did well for you, Barbie did well for you.
I would be surprised if this be Kate Masters of
the Universe becomes the Barbie.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
That's what I'm hoping for.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
But you know, hey, at number ten, this is the
area where you know, you start taking shots.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Yeah, I am taking a shot there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
So I think with this pick, there's a few things
I'm looking at here.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
I got two picks left kind of in an area
of movies that I look at and I'm like that
they're probably gonna make close to the same amount of money.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
So I'm looking for something that maybe has a shot.
You know, as we're talking about taking shots, something I
could like maybe break out a little bit. I'm gonna
go with the end of Oak Street.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Our whole street.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Has moved. Oh my god, run something. You shared the trailer,
but I was like, oh, that looks pretty interesting. JJ
Abrams is like a producer. There's some interesting actors involved.
Dan Hathaway, Ewan McGregor has a little bit of like
a Spielberg vibe to it. So I think this one
could drive people. And I think the marketing has been
(40:31):
pretty good so far behind it, and it's an August release.
In August is kind of a dead zone.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Yeah, I'm kind of psyched about this movie. I think
the movie looks interesting. I don't know how well it's
gonna do. But again, you know, this is what picks
six for you. Yeah, so it makes sense that it
goes here on your list. But worth the shot, Yeah,
I think it's worth a shot. It's based off the
book right off a book.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
I don't know. Is it sounds like a book title?
Oh no, it's an original original story. Yeah, sci fi
thriller written and directed by David Robert Mitchell, not based
on a book.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
All right, So I need a horror movie on my list,
So I am going to go with There's actually a
lot of horror movies to choose from this year. I'm
gonna go with Evil Dead Burn.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
We found you, William, my sweet boy.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I were given anything for us to be together again.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Grandfather believed the devil would return if anyone read from
the Book.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Of the Dead.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Will Evil Dead come back? Will it do numbers for me?
Speaker 2 (41:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
The last one did decently well, and it didn't come
out in the summer. It came out I don't know
what time of year, but it may be the spring
or fall, and it made almost seventy million dollars. That
was Evil Dead Rise twenty twenty three. Yeah, the trailer
actually looks pretty good.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, this was one of my choices I was considering.
I like the Evil Dead series, and I wonder, I'm
like putting this out in summer. I'm like, could it
tick up a little bit or is the seventy million.
Is that kind of the how much these movies can make.
I don't know. July is pretty open for horror, so
that might it could own like that month as far
as like horror movies go with horror fans. Mm hmm.
(42:33):
I'll be happy if it does numbers. Sure, all right.
So for my last pick, remember we have the bonus
what we call the indie equalizer, where you can get
three times the box office if you choose a movie
from an independent studio.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
I'm gonna do just that, and I'm gonna take a
twenty four's movie back rooms, I.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Found something in the store. Okay, what did you find about?
Speaker 1 (43:07):
A place?
Speaker 4 (43:12):
We hell? Pull me out? Pull me out?
Speaker 2 (43:15):
It comes out pretty soon, not Memorial Day weekend, but
the weekend after this one. I think has a lot
going for it. One. It's a twenty four. I feel
like they're just pretty good at marketing. I like the
movies they released. You know, for an indie studio, they
do pretty well. They've kind of cracked the code a
little bit. But this is also based on kind of
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like a viral internet video myth something like that. They
got the guy who actually like made the stuff online
to make the movie. So I think you're gonna bring
some fans over from that, and the story, you know,
I think is also kind of interesting. We're gonna pull
people in, especially younger generation people trapped in an endless
maze of liminal spaces. Liminal spaces are kind of like
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a trendy thing online, so it's like endless. You can't
get you just keep going from room to room and
you can't get out. So I think there could be
something here, especially if it's well reviewed or it's good.
But even if it's not, I think some horror fans
will come out for this one.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
I think it's interesting that you chose that movie, which
I think looks really good. In that whole description of
why you chose it, you didn't choose to say the
actor's name.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Honestly, I don't even know who's in it.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
I want you to attempt to say his name, because
I oh.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Chew to tell a gedaphour? Is that how you say it?
I think, so chew to tell it? What chew to
tell a gedaphour? He's been around that guy.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
I know that. I know that he's been around I
like him, but I don't I don't know if I
was saying it right. But in all the years that
I have seen him in movies, I have failed to
remember how to say his name. And that to me
is like real hard because when people say, hey, who's
in that, I'm always like, well, you know the there's
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a guy he plays in this and he plays in that.
And they'll be like, oh, I think I know who
you're talking about, but I can't say their names.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Yeah, so you're saying you think it's gonna hurt the movie.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
No, I don't think it would hurt the movie. I
think A twenty four honestly, I think the movie will
do really well.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
But what about the other star We'reanaa renz Vas.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
Yeah, this is gonna hurt the movie for sure. If
both stars. You can't say, that's so bad, because.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
You know, that's just like such a American.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
It's American. Yeah, it's a very American thing to say.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
I think it's why stars, you know, in the old days,
you change their name to something really simple.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
Yeah, I mean I really do think. I mean not
that I think that that's truly what it was. I
mean sometimes maybe to hide their identity too, but yeah, yeah,
it could be anyway.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
All right, last pick, my last pick.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
You know, I'm gonna do for the indie equalizer, and
I'm gonna pick the other A twenty four movie. I'm
gonna pick the Death of Robin Hood.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
People speak of Robin Hood, tell his stories.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
As he was not a heero, you were a murderous
brigand Wave one monstrous.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
I am the outlaw. I love when they tell a
story from a totally different like this, you know, something
that is unexpected, and the Death of Robin Hood feels
that way. It's very strange in that way, but also
kind of exciting. I'm kind of excited about it.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, I'm interested. I don't know. I don't know what
this one will do. I think it looks it looks
pretty dark. It does. It does look dark. So it's
not an upbeat summer movie from the director of Pig.
Did you see Peg with Nicholas Cage. Yeah, that's pretty good.
And this is the thing, like, you know, it's a
good director.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
It seems like it's got a good studio behind it.
So hopefully, you know, it's got some of that indie love.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Yeah. Two A twenty four is when does that come out?
Speaker 4 (47:19):
June nineteenth? So yours comes out May, so they'll be
kind of close. They will be kind of close. Yeah,
there's a lot of movies out this summer though, there's
a lot of options.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
There are a lot of options.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
And I'm not just saying that because they're making another
Jackass movie. I'm just saying there's a lot of options. Oh,
I did kind of think about Jackass. Well, what is
it lasting best?
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Too?
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Ugh?
Speaker 4 (47:45):
I I can't. I just on principle alone, I couldn't
pick it. So you know, it's probably gonna do well anytime.
My principles get it in the way. Yeah, your principles
are the worst.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Well, what do you think overall? What do you think
about your team? How do you feel? What's your overall?
You look kind of down your board.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
I mean I feel okay, but I don't feel great.
I might have made a blunder with the Toy Story.
I should have probably picked Toy Story five.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
Will it do better than Spider Man? I think it might.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
I don't know. I'm kind of like mixed on those.
It's kind of why I gave up the number one pick.
I wasn't sure. Yeah, well that was part of the reason.
The other part of the reason was I felt like
I was trapped these family movies. I felt like I
was kind of trapped by them. Yeah, in the sense
that you know they're gonna make money, but I didn't
want to like be in a position where I'm like
taking all of them.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
I agree, and I like my top three. I'm really
happy with my top three. I think they're gonna do well.
Disclosure Day is my wild card, which I'm not. I mean,
I really hope that this movie is gonna do what
I wanted to do, but if it doesn't, I'm kind
of screwed.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
I feel like all the movies from like six through
twelve are really kind of the because I feel like
one through five are gonna they're all gonna make money.
Six through twelve is where it's gonna be decided. Disclosure Day,
the Mandalorian, Supergirl, Scary Movie, Masters of the Universe. How
much money of those movies gonna make? You know, because
those are the ones I feel like could bomb or
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could make three hundred million dollars. Yeah, this happens to.
Speaker 4 (49:13):
Me every year where I'm like, oh, I probably should
have taken this over that, like Mowana. Mowana is probably
gonna do great numbers, and I technically had an opportunity
to take Bowana, but I didn't, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Yeah, I had the same feeling with it, though I
was as part of me that's like, stay away from Mowana.
I like don't want maai, you know what I mean? Yeah,
watch that end up being the number one movie of
the summer.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
Well, that brings us to the Wick Award predictions. So
what's the amount of money that you predict your team
more before bonuses? Before bonuses? Of course, let's see here.
Let me just crunch the numbers real quick. I'm gonna
go with one point five billion. Holy moully, you're looking
(49:58):
for that real high? It seems high, all right, one
point five billion.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, that's probably too high. I'm probably gonna go over.
I should I should have gotten lower, but I'm already in.
I'm in too deep.
Speaker 4 (50:09):
I'm gonna go eight seventy five, eight seventy five. I'm
gonna go a little lower because I have a feeling I'm.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Probably gonna go over. That was that was real high.
Immediately regret it. One point five billion, so much?
Speaker 4 (50:24):
Eight hundred and seventy five million. Still, you know, that's nothing.
We like, it's not hitting a billion mark, which I think.
I mean, it's before bonuses, So I mean, I'm hoping
for a bonus on the death of Robinhood.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
But I don't know. So last year I predicted one
point four billion, My actual was one point five seven eight.
So it's possible you last year predicted, oh, this is interesting,
one billion and forty five million, one point zero four
five and your actual was eight hundred and thirty eight.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
See, so I'm I'm getting closer to realizing that I
might lose.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
I think you'll be much higher this year, but that
going over rule, I should have been a little more conservative.
But you know, I'm going by my going by my numbers.
My numbers guy was like.
Speaker 4 (51:14):
This is it.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
This is what you gotta do.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
This is what your accountant told you. Your CPA does
he have a CPA disease?
Speaker 2 (51:22):
CPA's got a CPA. So yeah, we'll see what happens
with those. It's a good bonus there for the person
who gets it. We can both get it, though, right
or is this one person? How does this work? I
should know? No, only one team, the team that comes closest,
So only one team gets it.
Speaker 4 (51:37):
Here is so far away. I don't even have to
worry unless I knock myself out. All right, Patrick, it's
been a journey. But before we wrap up, what's you know?
This is the question we always ask, what's the one
summer movie you're most excited for? What's the top of
your list this first year. I'm excited for a lot
of the movies on this list, both of our lists.
(51:57):
The easy answer for me is Disclosure Day. It's my
cup of tea as people know me, you know who
have listened to the podcast, and I can only hope
that it withstands my own internal hype, you know.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (52:11):
But number two, if you're just saying Patrick, go beyond
what your like comfort zone is, I'd say something a
little less mainstream, like the Death of Robin Hood. I
really am also looking forward to backrooms. Maybe both those
A twenty four's look really just right in that sweet
spot of things that I think look like unique stories
(52:34):
that we've been talking about craving so much. What do
you think of those?
Speaker 2 (52:38):
I think I'm on the same page with a lot
of those. That number one is probably also Disclosure Day.
It's the one I just you know, has a lot
of the things I like. I'm a a Spielberg guy.
I'm interested in everything he does. I want to see
him return to like aliens and outer space and fascination.
This is the first movie I think he wrote like
a long long time.
Speaker 4 (52:58):
Which tells you something like the fact that he's attached
to this movie in this way. I feel like it's
gonna be good because of that. Right, Yeah, he's invested,
he's into it. Yeah, this isn't a like I just
kind of like put my stamp on there and it's
just some other movie. He's in it.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Another guy's in it to win it is, you know,
Christopher Nolan. The Odyssey is probably another thing. I'm like
just so curious, like what is this thing gonna be.
It's gonna be an odyssey, It's gonna be an odyssey,
But what is it gonna be? Like is he makes
spectacles and he makes movies to be seen in movie theaters.
So I'm just real curious to see kind of what
he comes out with. Plus, you know the guy who's
(53:37):
like his last movie was a hit, he won a
bunch of awards. It's like, here's a blank check, go
do anything you want. It's usually when people go a
little nuts, so I want to see what he throws
together there. And then on the indie side, I mentioned
the invite that's probably my age twenty four. That's the
one I'm like, I like the people who are in this.
It has one of those plots where you're like, where
does this go? I want to see what happens here?
(53:58):
So yeah, I'm in for those.
Speaker 4 (54:00):
Yeah, the trailers are doing some work this year making
you interested in something. You don't even know what the
story is, but you're kind of curious as to, like
you said, where the story goes or what's the ending
of this. I'd like to know. Yeah, nice diversity of
product this year. I think we have some pretty evenly
matched teams. I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Will it come down to the trade back to the
future at the end of the summer.
Speaker 4 (54:26):
I mean, I do have the number one pick, So technically,
if I lost the draft and I'm like, hey, I'm
just gonna go for it. A spider Man makes like
five hundred or six hundred million dollars and you lose
the draft, it's not going to do that much good
for you to trade that one.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4 (54:43):
But if I lose by like a hundred million, then
it could happen. All right, everyone, we have come to
the end. Tune in for our follow up episode in
the fall, when we crunch the numbers, add up our bonuses,
and find out whose team emerges victorious in this year's
Summer movie draft. That's it for this episode of movies
(55:05):
and marketing. Until next time, Let's fade to black.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
I'll be back.
Speaker 4 (55:12):
He's done coming back.
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I agent. It's that time again, Shad. What time is
that is Summer Draft town baby? Whoo whoo?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
My god, what a surprise because I don't prepare for
these episodes in any way, so totally caught off guard,
and I don't look forward to this like it's Christmas Day,
big gear though. Oh on the Summer movie Draft. It's
our ten year anniversary.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Happy birthday, neft to present in ten.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Years of the Draft. That's crazy. Ten years of our lives.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Devoted to this thing that I think is probably our
most favorite episodes of the year, where we get to
be competitive and yet just have a lot of fun.
Because it lasts, it's like one episode, well technically two
if you count the Award show wrap up. Yeah, but
two episodes that basically span in an entire summer, you know,
(01:36):
because we're checking the box office numbers all year.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, we're constantly tracking, poking each other with updates like ooh,
that didn't open. How I hoped.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
A little bit of smack talk happening as we go
through our daily lives. I'll be sitting somewhere just happen
to see an article that says this tanked.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, reviews on this one coming out are bad, and
you're like, ooh, that's not good. Yeah, or you're hoping.
You're like, well, I still got this coming in July.
There's a chance.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, there's a lot of hope left. And then when
you get to that point where you realize you're snuffed
for the year, you start to reevaluate your life choices.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, it's amazing how much my life, my everyday life,
all year round, depends on this draft.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I think the feeling of knowing you're losing the draft
is a lot like when you have your favorite sports
team and they've just lost the big thing, right, could
be the playoffs, it could be the super Bowl, it
could be the NBA Championship, whatever it is, the World Cup, right,
you're going through that moment and it's just like this pit. Yeah,
(02:49):
a little sadness but doesn't ruin your life.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
But you know, yeah, how am I ever going to
get back there? Yeah? Yeah, so happy thoughts to I
really start thinking off here. The mathematicians out there might
be asking, is this technically the eleventh year? Shut up?
You're wrong. COVID through us for a loop. There was
no challenge in twenty twenty because we had no summer movies.
(03:14):
We couldn't do it. Yeah, it was a rough year.
It was hard that way. You know, it's nice to
have a break from everything, but it was devastating to
lose the draft. It was so currently this grudge match
that we have going. The series stands four to five,
four wins to five wins. You still have that edge.
(03:35):
You still got those five wins. But as listeners know,
longtime listeners, I've been creeping on a comeup. Yeah, two
years in a row, right, two in a row after
a long disastrous, very very depressing. As listeners well also
might remember losing streak from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty three.
(03:57):
You know, I'm back, I'm relevant again.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Good. Yeah, it was necessary too, you know, like I
say all the time, I mean, when you're at the top,
there's really no place but to go down. We joked
for many years like, as I was just winning and
winning and winning, that this is just a blip, maybe
that I was just having a little bubble and that
bubble was gonna eventually pop. And that's kind of what
(04:20):
happened the last two years. I just tanked both years.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I mean, the odds are nobody can win forever. My
worry was, I'm like, how long is this blip? This
five year blip? Is this a twenty year blip? What
am I looking at here?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Honestly, it's been fun losing, you know. I know this
sounds like me just saying this because I lost, But
when you're winning that many years in a row, you
start to feel a little like bad. Yeah, I mean
I'm not I'm not kidding, you know, because I know
we both enjoy this. I knew you were into it too,
(04:53):
and winning is fun, don't get me wrong. But when
you see the other person kind of like sh you're
just like that.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Poor soul over there, can't get a win?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Please suh?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Please?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Can I just have a little more in my box office?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Tempaz and you know, our rules, the way we have
them set up give the winner a little advantage, so
when you're on the other side, you're almost lose some control, right, Yeah,
when you're coming into the draft the next year, you're
kind of at the whims a little bit of the
other person, which changes the game a little.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yeah, and we've changed the game a little bit over
the years, as everyone knows, when we first started, the
draft was kind of set up a little differently than
it is today. Yeah, we didn't have bonus structures the
way we have today, and I think it's just made
it a little more creative and fun for us and
maybe even for the listeners. You could tell us, we've
heard some pretty positive things. Now, I'm not gonna lie
(05:50):
our bonus structures. If you're not really paying attention to
the entire episode, like most podcasts, you know, where you're
kind of coming in and out like you're doing something
and you're like, wait, what, how do does that bonus
structure work? It could get a little confusing. We have
taken the liberty of posting what those bonus structures are
on the show notes and stuff. So sometimes if you
go back to the show notes, it helps give some
(06:13):
context to how our bonus structure works. But we try,
we try to describe it, at least for you so
you understand what's going on.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, we briefly go through those things, but we don't
want to get too much into the weeds because we
want to get to the you know, the meat, the
actual draft, So we kind of skim over it and assume,
you know, people catch up in the end, which they
seem to have. So let's get to the rules of
the game. Patrick, how does this whole thing work?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
The game is pretty simple. Each team, so Shad's team,
my team. We each picked seven movies, and that team
whose movies have the most or the highest combined domestic
box office total at the end of the summer wins keynote.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
They're domestic, not worldwide. We're not international yet. Maybe someday,
but not right now. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah, Then there's the specific rules that we have to follow.
So what defines the summer movie season. We've talked about
this many times in the past. Any movie released in
the US from Memorial Day weekend through Labor Day weekend
is eligible. You know, that fluctuates every year, but this
year it's Friday, May twenty second to Friday September fourth.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, pretty wide this year.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Yeah, it makes a big difference because there's a lot
of people who say, well, that's what do you mean, Like,
why didn't you include this movie or that movie? Every
year we say it it's Memorial Day to Labor Day,
so whatever that is, we stick to that, and that
keeps us honest because otherwise we've had years where we
could like include these big box office blowouts and we
didn't because it didn't follow the rules.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, Michael, not a summer movie. Came out at the
end of April.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
It's not a summer movie.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Back in the day, Guardians, I think was like one
of those that we had to eliminate because it was
too early.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, early May. It's not summer.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah, so only theatrical releases. Streaming services we haven't really
been able to verify numbers, so we eliminated those. And
then when we record our final results, if the latest
released Picked in the draft comes out before August fifteenth,
we will tally results until September fifteenth. If the latest
(08:21):
release Picked comes out after August fifteenth, then we tally
results until September thirtieth. It's based on your picks essentially. Yeah,
that's a pretty important rule because for those who want
to listen to the wrap up show, that wrap up
show can fluctuate a lot of times. We post that
wrap up show like October, right because September we record
(08:46):
the episode sometimes September, and then you know, by the
time we edit it and stuff like that. So for
those out there, you know, you look for the wrap
up show, probably October.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Ish early October.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, h yeah, it's pretty safe to say that, you know,
you'll get the results in that space of time. All right, Well,
drafting the teams, how does that work? We have a
rule that's pretty significant.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Rule of the game that we made and it really
has kind of changed the game since we inserted it.
Last year's winner, we're like, what do you get for winning?
You have to get something that gives you, you know,
an advantage, makes it worth your while. Here's what it is.
Last year's winner gets to choose between taking the first
pick or getting picks two and three consecutively. This is
(09:31):
a big deal. So you can choose to go first,
but then the other person's going to get two and three,
so you're going to be for one and four or
you can go two and three and you know the
other person will then be one and four. So there's
a strategy there, So that kind of comes into play.
As the winner last year, this is going to be
my choice to make here as we step into the
(09:53):
draft shortly, So big deal, still mullying over in my mind.
You know, there's so many things to think about there.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
That is like the best part and also the most
stressful part, I think for both parties, right, for both teams, yes,
because when you are the winner and you have that choice,
it's an incredible amount of pressure to figure out what's
going to be the right call there, because that can
make or break you. Because I think there were a
couple of years right where I gave you the first pick.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, and then I blew it.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
But you just I think you just did a little
gamesmanship there, and you're like, man, if you're that winner,
it's a lot of stress on your shoulders, a lot
to carry it really is. You're getting kind of thrown
into a situation. So the stress of that is like, okay,
well if I get two and three or I get one,
(10:47):
whatever that is, It's like you got to make choices
on the fly at that point. Yeah, you can't predict
what you're gonna do before you go in.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, you can have an idea of what you're gonna
do based on what happens, but you know, you don't
know exactly what's going to happen. So it leaves things
kind of up in the air in a way that
just creates discomfort.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yeah, added complexity to your strategy. So we talked about
our bonuses. The first one we have, we call it
the Raiders Reward, a little bonus for the movie with
what we call the best legs, the movie that makes
the most money beyond its opening weekend. So say it
makes like fifty million its opening weekend and then it
makes six hundred million going forward. Movies like I don't know,
(11:29):
I think of like Top Gun Maverick that like it
made a lot of money opening weekend, but that it
played and played week after week, it kept like hauling
in money. I don't know if it was the bonus
that year, but something like that. That's kind of something
that wins the Raiders Reward. What's our next one? What's
our next bonus?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Patrick?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
The next one is the Wick Award, which is named
after John Wick.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
The Wick Award is.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Each team will guess the total box office before bonuses
during the draft, and then the team that comes closest
to hitting the target without going over gets a bonus.
Kind of like John Wick. You know when he does
those headshots, he's always hitting his target.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Can we hit the target?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, he can fire a gun blindly though, hit is guy.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah. We tend to be a little off and you
can't go over. That always makes things a little dicey.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
The price is right rules. I love that because it
really does keep you honest. I can't go crazy with
my numbers, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, but you want to get you still want to
get close, so you can you can get it. The
next one is pretty important one, I think, or it's
become more important in recent years. It's the Indie Equalizer.
With their final pick of the draft, each team has
the option to select from a list of films released
by independent studios. So not your Warner Brothers, not your
Paramount you know, these are from your your A twenty four,
(12:54):
your Focus films, your Angels studios, your smaller studios. And
if you choose one of these movies, you are awarded
the gross of the movie, plus a bonus of three
times the gross of the movie. This is where we
get a little into the mat. So if a movie
makes fifteen million, you get that fifteen million, and then
you also get a forty five million dollar bonus, you know,
(13:17):
three times at fifteen, so you end up with sixty
million for that fifteen million dollar movie. This allows the
indie movies to kind of play in the big leagues
with the other guys, at least for one pick been
pretty important. I think you got Materialists last year. You
got a good amount of good chunk of change for this.
I know I had like Long Legs a couple of
years ago, and I got a significant amount of money
(13:38):
for this. There is a cap on the bonus for
this that is one hundred million. You can't get beyond
that for the bonus amount, Yeah, which is I think fair. Yeah,
pretty generous.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
We thought that the cap needed to be there because
you know, if the movie does one hundred million, you
can't get three hundred million for that indie movie, yeah
on top of the hundred Yeah, it'd be ludicrous. The
last one is trade back to the Future. This is
the one that can really maybe do some damage someone's
(14:09):
whole world. Essentially at the end of the draft. At
the end of the summer, when we tally the results,
each of us can choose to use this option with
one of their picks, any one of them. With it,
you basically trade back in time for a movie that
finished in the domestic rankings the same number as your picks,
anywhere between one and fourteen. Here's the twist. The year
(14:32):
will be randomly picked from the years nineteen eighty five
to twenty twenty five. Techniques twenty twenty five. Yeah, by
spinning a wheel, some years could give you a great result,
while O there's you know, you might just shoot yourself
in the foot, but if you're doing it, it's usually
for a reason, so you have sometimes nothing to lose.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, an underperforming movie. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
And clearly this is named for the greatest time travel
movie of all time, Back to the Future.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It hasn't happened yet, but I'm gonna call it now.
I think this is gonna be the year the trade
back to the future is gonna decide the winner of
the draft.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I mean, you might be right, like if you gave
up number one and you randomly got Barbie. I don't
know if that's actually true or if that could be
possible or Maverick right.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, you could sail away with a win.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
You could, or if you make an exchange of some
sort that gives you, like an extra two hundred or
three hundred million dollars mm hmm, that could change the game,
especially if the other person then does it and lose
it somehow loses money on it.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah, that's true. They're like, oh, now I got to
do it, and then they lose money. Our final rule
of sorts, it's not a real rule, but we like
to smack talk.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, it's part of the game. It's not there's no
fouls in this game. Yeah, it's more of a like
a suggestion. It's not a rule. It's a philosophy. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
So all that, you know, being said, everything out on
the table there. I think it's time to begin the
twenty twenty six Summer Movie draft. All right, Patrick, it's time.
(16:25):
It's time to get into this. It's time to do
the dirty business of drafting our teams. As you know,
I have a decision to make as last year's winner,
the reigning champion, the holder of the crown, if you will,
and that is to decide whether to take the first
pick or take picks two and three. And this year
(16:47):
I'm going to take picks two and three. It's going
to leave you with the number one pick in the draft.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
That's that right there.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I wasn't expecting that. Okay, what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I don't know if I've done this yet. In the
times I've won, there hasn't been that many times.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
I think both times I've taken the number one, they're
accumulating they are past two years. See this is me
smack talking.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
See.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
By the way, for listeners out there, I probably need
to say this again. I've said it in past years,
but we do have the full list of movies that
were our options on our show notes page, like a
link to them. And I only say that because you
may not be seeing the choices that we have in
front of us, but we know what our choices are, Like,
(17:36):
We've got a whole list of movies to choose from dozens.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah. No, that's a good point. If you want to
kind of follow along mm hm, you could do that
on that page see what movies are available, and you know,
kind of yell at home and be like, what why
are you picking that now? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
And I also think That's kind of fun because like,
if you were listening, you could go on this and
see this list, and what would you choose? You know
what I mean? Like, I think it would be kind
of interesting sting to know what your list looks like,
what your team you would draft looks like, because we're
just two guys making up this draft, you know, together.
So all right, So number one, I think I have
(18:13):
to go with Spider Man Brand New Day.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Spiders have three life cycles.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
When between cycles, it can't leave the spier vulnerable to threats.
We are faced with a danger but we can't control and.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
For those Spiders who make it through, it amounts to
a kind of reaper.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Brand New Day?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Is it a brand New Day? Because it seems pretty
similar to the other days.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Here's the thing, I think there's a lot of people
who want to see this movie. It's like probably the
strongest box office weapon because Tom Holland back as Peter Parker,
Like this is arguable the most reliable superhero left in
the superhero universe right now. I think, because like the
(19:06):
fatigue is real.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, I agree with you on that. We've seen the
superhero fatigue that's real. But somehow Spider Man is unaffected. Yeah,
he's like his own alley. You know, the animated movies
have done well. The last series did well. I think
he's kind of in his own lane.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah, there's something lovable about that character. And they've done
a good job with Tom Holland as that character of
really giving it some longevity. I think the thing that
hurt it in the past was they would restart reboot
every single time with a new character. You're like, I
do not need to see how Spider Man was created again,
you know what I mean? But they tend to fall
into that hole, and they didn't have to do that
(19:44):
with Tom Holland. I think now they're in a spot
where they can keep building off of this storyline.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So yeah, I do kind of feel a little bad
for him, Like he couldn't really do anything else, so
he's just like, I just got to go back to
doing Spider Man.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
I mean, he have that amazing movie with Mark Wahlberg
based off a video game.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Oh Uncharted.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Oh so bad.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah that was terrible. You know, I can't give you
too much flak. As I was debating whether to take
the number one or not, this was probably what I
would have taken number one. It's debatable between that or
what I'm going to take number two, but I think
this is it. I think this is gonna probably be
the number one movie this summer, though I don't think
it's gonna blow up like the last Spider Man did,
the one that had like, you know, we're bringing back
(20:29):
all the Spider Man from all the movies. That one
kind of had a gimmick. This one doesn't quite have that.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, I don't think it does.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
There's been some online love chatter things like that, so
maybe it'll do good.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Maybe it'll surprise us and or not surprise us, because
I know it's gonna do great. Yeah, I think this one.
I think it's a pretty solid pick. I think people
are gonna be on board for Brand New Day With
the second pick, though, I'm gonna take Toy Story five.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Oh Bunny, there's a package for you to thank you. Hi.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
There, I'm Lily pat Let's play.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Extinction not again.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I think this is the only other movie that's in
competition for possibly being the top movie of the summer.
This and Spider Man were the two that I was like,
it's probably one of those movies.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, there's no doubt that it's gonna do well. But
it's like flirt. It's always flirting with this, like fatigue this.
You know, people talk about it like do we really
need another toy story?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, but then people go see it. There's quite a
few movies on this list I'll probably say that about
and I'd probably even put Spider Man in that bucket
a little bit. But yeah, I would have been fine
if they retired Toy story after Toy Story three, which
I thought, you know, ended it nicely, but never gonna
do that. There's gonna be ten toy stories, you know,
at some point we're just gonna keep going until there's
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no milk left in the teat.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
You theoretically could tell that story like an anthology because
there's always toys, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
But then you have no you know, character. They always
add in a new character each like this time we
got the iPad or the tablet of whatever sort. It
is the electronic, the dangerous electronic who's killed toys, which
is an interesting angle, but you know, you got to
have your central characters for people to grab onto.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
True, all right, so what's then what's your thursions you
get this?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
So third pick, I'm going you know, in a different direction.
Maybe kind of a surprise here. I don't know. I'm
going with the Odyssey.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Who's looking after your wife? And Simon?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Do you see my dad is coming home.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
And us.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Bringing it all? Christopher Nolan's much hyped.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Your love for christ for Nolan is a real thing, just.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
So you know. Weird though it's not I mean, it
isn't this draft because I picked Oppenheimer over Barbie, which
some would say was questionable. Yeah, since it made half
the money, even though it made a lot of money.
But I don't even love his movies that much. I'm
always interested in his movies, but I don't know that
I love them. But this one has a lot going
for it. Locked up Imax for a few weeks, which,
(23:22):
by the way, Spider Man is not getting because the
Odyssey is gonna have him locked down. Yeah, and it's
got every actor in Hollywood in it, and it's coming off.
You know, Nolan doing Oppenheimer, he's like a brand name now,
he's like a Spielberg.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
The only thing that could hurt this though. It's a
three hour epic based on the Odyssey. Yeah, Greek mythology,
the names of the characters, it's gonna be hard for
people to talk about this because it feels a lot
like a literature assignment. When you go to a movie
like this, you know what I mean, you got to
think about, Okay, who is this, what's the what's their thing?
(23:59):
You know, because you know you're gonna have the people
who are very maybe educated, worldly in their literature exploits,
you know, like the things I've read, And then there's
gonna be people who will be like, I don't what
you know.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I don't think people are gonna think about it that way.
I think they're just gonna be like battle scenes, big screens.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yeah that's true. I mean there are gonna be those
who go to see that. I want to see it
in Imax because he shot this thing for Imax.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah, so I don't know how big it's gonna get exactly.
There's probably other movies that'll do better, but this is
one I wanted to grab because I feel like it's
got some potential to blow up. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Plus you can say that you I think you've had
every Christopher Nolan movie since he started making movies.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I'm trying to think what else besides Oppenheimer if I've
ever grabbed one. Don't did I have Dunkirk'?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I think you did? Did I? I think you did
have Dunkirk.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yes, I'm telling you you had tons of Christopher Nolan
movies and you're all right. I'm in the Nolan though.
What can I tell you?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Maybe you could have him on the cast, you and him, buds.
I'm the longtime supporter, all right. So then my pick finally, Yeah,
you're back.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
You're back.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I made this mistake long ago. I talk about this
on every summer draft since I made the mistake. But
I need a kid's movie, so I'm gonna do minions
and monsters.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Shaves. You have a real gift for filmmaking.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
I'm Gary Orkham, Oliver Magna Ekabad the Deceiver, but my
friends just call me Goomy for sure. I know the
perfect monsters for your moving Let's go. You love those minions,
I you know I don't like the minions. But here's
the benefit of this movie this year for me is
that it does couple nicely with one of my favorite things,
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which are monsters. The agency monster is unlimited. I mean,
you can't get better than that, this pairing. So anyway,
I think it should be fun. The Minions seem like
they make cash all the time. I don't know why
those little guys make cash, but they do. You know,
you talk about me and Nolan, I feel like you
and the Minions. Anytime there's a Minions movie out, you're
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on it. Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
And I remember it was like the Minions Rise of Guru.
I'm like, there's no way anybody's going to see that,
and then it made like three hundred million dollars. Then
another one came out and made like three hundred million dollars.
There's no doubt it's gonna make money. But you know,
exactly like the ceiling of a Minions everybody's gonna go.
They come out Fourth of July weekend, but they're mostly
for like, you know, little kids and people throwing bananas.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
If there's any one takeaway for picking a Minions movie,
it's that you don't pick it because you respect cinema.
You pick it because you respect capitalism. Yeah, you respect
the money. I mean, it's solid. You can't deny that
it's got a brand. You know, people are coming for it.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah. So I'm up on the fifth pick, and with
this one, I don't have to do something that pains
me that I don't want to do you're talking about
you know, you're talking about the Minion. Yeah, in capitalism,
I'm gonna have to go with Moana live action. Okay,
beyond the.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Out reef an evil done, this has found us fine, MAUI.
We stole the heart MOI.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I don't know if I told myself I would never
pick a live action remake, but in my heart it
hurts to take one of these Disney live action movies,
especially one of these that I think this one looks
pretty rough, but I think people will also go see it.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
I mean we've talked about this over the years, Like
the live action stuff, it feels like they shouldn't do
any money, and then they do lots of money. Always
there was one there was an exception, I think to
this one year where something didn't do quite as well
as it probably should have. I can't remember what it was.
But then you get this Moana's beloved. So I have
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a feeling people are gonna just gonna go to this one,
maybe multiple times. Because of the songs.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, I think the music at least by this like
recent generation. I know when my kids were growing up,
this was like one of my favorites. It had like
the best music, and to see a trash like this unfortunate.
I was really hoping with the last pick you would
actually take Mowana and then I could take Minions because
to me, they're kind of interchangeable and how much they're
gonna make. Yeah, maybe Mowana has a higher ceiling. I
don't know. Maybe I'm just have a bad outlook on
(28:27):
it because I'm like, ah, looks awful. But I agree.
I think it's just it's gonna print money.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Yeah, I think it does have a higher ceiling, though,
I will say that about it because kids know it
and parents know it.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
And the songs.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Everyone knows the songs to some degree, you know, even
if you don't know all the lyrics. You know, like
I'm sorry, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
You're welcome, You're welcome, You're welcome. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
See, I clearly am not the audience. Yeah, yeah, you'll
be their opening day. You're like, oh, the rock looks
so good that wig.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I do like the rock. I do like me some rock.
I think he's a good guy, all right, so tough, tough, tough, tough.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Okay, then I am gonna go with disclosure day. People
have a right to know the truth.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
It belongs to seven billion people. What is it?
Speaker 4 (29:22):
You won't believe me if I told you so.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
I'm gonna show you.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
What are you gonna do? Full disclosure to the whole
world all what? Hmmm? This is Steven Spielberg. He's returning
to sci fi for this movie. I mean, I think
it's gonna be a strong, strong, strong effort at the
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box office. It's about an alien invasion, it's a thriller.
It's humanity's response to some event. Yeah, it's still pretty
m They've kept a lot of it under wraps. We've
gotten a little bit of it.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
The trailers have been all right. I'm very hopeful for
this one. I hope it's big. I hope it's great.
Can't help a wonder if you took it a little
too early. Is it gonna make this much money? I
worry that people don't think about Spielberg anymore like we
think about Spielberg.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yeah, you might be.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
You could be right at that.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
I think it definitely shows my age that I'm like
disclosure day Steven Spielberg. But I will say this, Steven
Spielberg isn't the reason why this movie looks good to me.
This movie looks interesting and it's kind of crazy weird,
and like I liked the original trailer.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I was like, what is this? This this speaks my interest.
You know that's true. People are into aliens and conspiracies
right now.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Yeah, And I feel like Emily Blunt everything she touches,
I mean, Quiet Place, all those movies, not Jungle Cruise
or whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
No, not Jungle Cruise with the Rock. Yeah, the one
I paid like thirty dollars to rent at home during COVID.
Heank's great.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Yeah, So yeah, Disclosure Day. I think it's a winner
Winter Chicken Dinner.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful, even though it's on your team.
I want that one to win, all right. With the
next pick, the seventh pick, going with another alien thing,
you could say, I mean, maybe this is aliens, okay,
talking about the Mandalorian and Grogu.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Thanksters, more criminals, long live the Empire.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
We'll take out every bad guy in your.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Deck of cards.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
This isn't about revenge, it's about preventing another war.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So this one, I don't know. I think it's worth
taking a shot here. With the seventh pick, I think it's.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Gonna make a couple hundred million. But I know people
are not, you know, huge on Star Wars right now.
I know it's not at its peak. Yeah, but I
think people still love the Mandalorian. I think that's got
some love. I don't know if the TV showed a
movie thing is confusing to people or will turn people
off from coming to the theater, but I think this
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one is good for at least some money. I don't
think it's going to be like Star Wars's biggest movie ever.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
I mean there's like a part of me though wonders
is this gonna be like The Diamond and the Rough,
where we don't envision it doing really well and then
it does insane numbers because maybe this sort of lightning
in a bottle because the Mandalorian show, people loved it.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
It's good. It's one of the better Star Wars things
that's come out.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Yeah, it's kind of started them on this track of
like telling stories that were original outside of the main characters.
And yeah, I have this feeling that like it's gonna
be one of those situations where there's gonna be all
these Star Wars fans that come out, but like this
is the greatest thing. And the people who just come
out to see gro goopb yoda. Yeah, like the cuteness factor.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
It could be kind of like Guardians of the Galaxy
where you're like, what is this and then it turned
you're like, oh, this is way better than I thought
it would be. And then you know, it gets kind
of that little bit of water mouth going. And it's
got prime Memorial Day weekend opening, which has always been
a good one for you know, kicking off the summer.
You get you make a little extra money there. I know.
(33:24):
I think Mission Impossible was in there last year and
didn't quite set the world up fire, but still made
like two hundred million dollars, and I think if it
does that here, I'm pretty happy with that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
And given that there's a flood of Star Wars stuff
that has been on Disney. Plus this is technically, I
think the first Star Wars movie in seven years, so
this might be something that it has going for it.
All Right, So well, then you know, I guess I
have to pick the other alien. I'll do super Girl.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Where'd You're not gonna find your people? Yeah, well that's
the same clerk.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I have no people.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
It's kind of the Yellow Hills immerses my Innocence Company.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Could it do money? I think it'll have money thrown
at it a little bit because of James Gunn. There's
gonna be the lovers and the haters of James Gunn
stuff in the DC universe and blah blah blah. But
I think, you know, to maybe get a little love
because of the Superman. I don't know, we'll see. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
This one's a big question mark for me. Obviously, Superman
did really good last year. I think you had that
one last year made like three hundred million dollars. I
definitely don't see this doing that. The trailers have looked
all right, this is like what you were just talking
about with the Mandalorian.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Though.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I almost think people are like kind of already dismissing it,
and maybe it'll come out and turn out to be like, oh,
that's actually a really fun movie and then it does
better than expected. But right now, I just feel like
it's not even positioned to succeed that well. I don't
know if it's been marketed that well.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Maybe the movie will turn out better than I'm perceiving
it to be, but I just don't know, And is
a too soon after Superman? I know that was the intent,
but yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Mean it's supposed to and I mean it does open
in June twenty sixth, so it's got plenty of time
to accumulate for the year if if it does do anything,
which is my hope it does something.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
So yeah, I don't know. We'll see see if it flies.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
It does have the dog too, right, yeah, the cuteness
factor of the dog crypto.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
People like the dog all right. With the ninth pick,
I'm gonna go comedy, a rare comedy because they don't
come out anymore. Scary movie.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
We beg there's a serial killer on the loop killer today.
I had been preparing for this for years. Hello Mother,
dance again, miss every time, be sure to thank you.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
That's a scary pick. It's like part six, the six
scary movie to come out there. They're just calling it
scary movie, which I think is a good choice. These
movies that parody, you know, horror films. We haven't had
one since twenty thirteen. Wayne's brothers involved. They're back. We
have a lot of new horror movies to make fun of.
I think this will find an audience. Obviously, the jokes
(36:25):
if you've watched any of the trailers, real dumb, but
I think people go for that. I think they'll be
in the mood for that. It's the premise of it.
It's like the Naked Gun, right. The jokes are dumb,
but they're they're sort of funny in that way. I
feel like people may want to remember scary movie more
than they want to buy tickets for scary movies.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Nostalgia is good, but I don't know if this movie
will do great because of that.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
It's just, yeah, we've had these bringbacks though, where if
it's over a certain point, you know, if it's like
from the two thousand around there, and then you bring
it back and it's been like fifteen plus years, seems
to do alright. Yeah, we'll see how it plays. The
comedy part is almost what worries me more. We just
haven't had a big comedy hit in a while. Yeah,
(37:10):
that is true.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
It's pretty brutal. You know, you want to pick a comedy,
you want to do that. I have one that I
thought about, and then I'm like, I don't know if
I'm gonna so I may or may not still pick
this but I'm just like comedy is.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
It's a tough one for me because of it. Yeah,
you probably do the same thing too, where it's like,
rather than look at your picks almost individually, you look
at it as like a whole. Yeah, like, how am
I diversifying my portfolio? Here?
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Mm hmm my next pick? Since you picked that, does
not feel like I've diversified it because I'm gonna pick.
I think I'm picking Masters of the Universe.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Oh no, why did you send me away? I wanted
you to be safe, so they send you to a
place and that they never find yet. I know it
sounds crazy, but that sort is kind of showed me
the way open up.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
I know it's a very dangerous, dangerous, dangerous pick. I
don't really know how else to say it, other than
part of me thinks maybe, just maybe this has some
of that nostalgia and the fans of Masters in the Universe,
and it's like comic book stuff, you know, It's like
why does Supergirl do numbers? Why does Spider Man do numbers?
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It's kind of like built in fandom. So I'm hoping
for that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
This one.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I'm glad you took it. It was a stay away
from me. I'm like, this is with Supergirl and the
Mandalori and I'm like, could there be something surprising here
that kind of grabs people? But on the surface of it,
I'm like, this is a big time bomb. Yeah, this
movie's gonna this isn't Gonnahiroshima. I mean it might, but
it also might have the power of Gray Skull, So
(39:00):
I might have the power if you pull this one off.
You got something here that would be a big surprise
of the summer. If people are like, it's actually pretty
good and it's different and it's funny, and.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
You know, everybody's just gonna go crazy about all of
the different aspects of this movie and it's going to
become the Barbie of the Year. Yeah, Oh that would
be great, because Barbie won me some awards that year.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Barbie did well for you, Barbie did well for you.
I would be surprised if this be Kate Masters of
the Universe becomes the Barbie.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
That's what I'm hoping for.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
But you know, hey, at number ten, this is the
area where you know, you start taking shots.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Yeah, I am taking a shot there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
So I think with this pick, there's a few things
I'm looking at here.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
I got two picks left kind of in an area
of movies that I look at and I'm like that
they're probably gonna make close to the same amount of money.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
So I'm looking for something that maybe has a shot.
You know, as we're talking about taking shots, something I
could like maybe break out a little bit. I'm gonna
go with the end of Oak Street.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Our whole street.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Has moved. Oh my god, run something. You shared the trailer,
but I was like, oh, that looks pretty interesting. JJ
Abrams is like a producer. There's some interesting actors involved.
Dan Hathaway, Ewan McGregor has a little bit of like
a Spielberg vibe to it. So I think this one
could drive people. And I think the marketing has been
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pretty good so far behind it, and it's an August release.
In August is kind of a dead zone.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Yeah, I'm kind of psyched about this movie. I think
the movie looks interesting. I don't know how well it's
gonna do. But again, you know, this is what picks
six for you. Yeah, so it makes sense that it
goes here on your list. But worth the shot, Yeah,
I think it's worth a shot. It's based off the
book right off a book.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
I don't know. Is it sounds like a book title?
Oh no, it's an original original story. Yeah, sci fi
thriller written and directed by David Robert Mitchell, not based
on a book.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
All right, So I need a horror movie on my list,
So I am going to go with There's actually a
lot of horror movies to choose from this year. I'm
gonna go with Evil Dead Burn.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
We found you, William, my sweet boy.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I were given anything for us to be together again.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Grandfather believed the devil would return if anyone read from
the Book.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Of the Dead.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Will Evil Dead come back? Will it do numbers for me?
Speaker 2 (41:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
The last one did decently well, and it didn't come
out in the summer. It came out I don't know
what time of year, but it may be the spring
or fall, and it made almost seventy million dollars. That
was Evil Dead Rise twenty twenty three. Yeah, the trailer
actually looks pretty good.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, this was one of my choices I was considering.
I like the Evil Dead series, and I wonder, I'm
like putting this out in summer. I'm like, could it
tick up a little bit or is the seventy million.
Is that kind of the how much these movies can make.
I don't know. July is pretty open for horror, so
that might it could own like that month as far
as like horror movies go with horror fans. Mm hmm.
(42:33):
I'll be happy if it does numbers. Sure, all right.
So for my last pick, remember we have the bonus
what we call the indie equalizer, where you can get
three times the box office if you choose a movie
from an independent studio.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
I'm gonna do just that, and I'm gonna take a
twenty four's movie back rooms, I.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Found something in the store. Okay, what did you find about?
Speaker 1 (43:07):
A place?
Speaker 4 (43:12):
We hell? Pull me out? Pull me out?
Speaker 2 (43:15):
It comes out pretty soon, not Memorial Day weekend, but
the weekend after this one. I think has a lot
going for it. One. It's a twenty four. I feel
like they're just pretty good at marketing. I like the
movies they released. You know, for an indie studio, they
do pretty well. They've kind of cracked the code a
little bit. But this is also based on kind of
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like a viral internet video myth something like that. They
got the guy who actually like made the stuff online
to make the movie. So I think you're gonna bring
some fans over from that, and the story, you know,
I think is also kind of interesting. We're gonna pull
people in, especially younger generation people trapped in an endless
maze of liminal spaces. Liminal spaces are kind of like
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a trendy thing online, so it's like endless. You can't
get you just keep going from room to room and
you can't get out. So I think there could be
something here, especially if it's well reviewed or it's good.
But even if it's not, I think some horror fans
will come out for this one.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
I think it's interesting that you chose that movie, which
I think looks really good. In that whole description of
why you chose it, you didn't choose to say the
actor's name.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Honestly, I don't even know who's in it.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
I want you to attempt to say his name, because
I oh.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Chew to tell a gedaphour? Is that how you say it?
I think, so chew to tell it? What chew to
tell a gedaphour? He's been around that guy.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
I know that. I know that he's been around I
like him, but I don't I don't know if I
was saying it right. But in all the years that
I have seen him in movies, I have failed to
remember how to say his name. And that to me
is like real hard because when people say, hey, who's
in that, I'm always like, well, you know the there's
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a guy he plays in this and he plays in that.
And they'll be like, oh, I think I know who
you're talking about, but I can't say their names.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Yeah, so you're saying you think it's gonna hurt the movie.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
No, I don't think it would hurt the movie. I
think A twenty four honestly, I think the movie will
do really well.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
But what about the other star We'reanaa renz Vas.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
Yeah, this is gonna hurt the movie for sure. If
both stars. You can't say, that's so bad, because.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
You know, that's just like such a American.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
It's American. Yeah, it's a very American thing to say.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
I think it's why stars, you know, in the old days,
you change their name to something really simple.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
Yeah, I mean I really do think. I mean not
that I think that that's truly what it was. I
mean sometimes maybe to hide their identity too, but yeah, yeah,
it could be anyway.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
All right, last pick, my last pick.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
You know, I'm gonna do for the indie equalizer, and
I'm gonna pick the other A twenty four movie. I'm
gonna pick the Death of Robin Hood.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
People speak of Robin Hood, tell his stories.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
As he was not a heero, you were a murderous
brigand Wave one monstrous.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
I am the outlaw. I love when they tell a
story from a totally different like this, you know, something
that is unexpected, and the Death of Robin Hood feels
that way. It's very strange in that way, but also
kind of exciting. I'm kind of excited about it.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, I'm interested. I don't know. I don't know what
this one will do. I think it looks it looks
pretty dark. It does. It does look dark. So it's
not an upbeat summer movie from the director of Pig.
Did you see Peg with Nicholas Cage. Yeah, that's pretty good.
And this is the thing, like, you know, it's a
good director.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
It seems like it's got a good studio behind it.
So hopefully, you know, it's got some of that indie love.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Yeah. Two A twenty four is when does that come out?
Speaker 4 (47:19):
June nineteenth? So yours comes out May, so they'll be
kind of close. They will be kind of close. Yeah,
there's a lot of movies out this summer though, there's
a lot of options.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
There are a lot of options.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
And I'm not just saying that because they're making another
Jackass movie. I'm just saying there's a lot of options. Oh,
I did kind of think about Jackass. Well, what is
it lasting best?
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Too?
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Ugh?
Speaker 4 (47:45):
I I can't. I just on principle alone, I couldn't
pick it. So you know, it's probably gonna do well anytime.
My principles get it in the way. Yeah, your principles
are the worst.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Well, what do you think overall? What do you think
about your team? How do you feel? What's your overall?
You look kind of down your board.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
I mean I feel okay, but I don't feel great.
I might have made a blunder with the Toy Story.
I should have probably picked Toy Story five.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
Will it do better than Spider Man? I think it might.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
I don't know. I'm kind of like mixed on those.
It's kind of why I gave up the number one pick.
I wasn't sure. Yeah, well that was part of the reason.
The other part of the reason was I felt like
I was trapped these family movies. I felt like I
was kind of trapped by them. Yeah, in the sense
that you know they're gonna make money, but I didn't
want to like be in a position where I'm like
taking all of them.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
I agree, and I like my top three. I'm really
happy with my top three. I think they're gonna do well.
Disclosure Day is my wild card, which I'm not. I mean,
I really hope that this movie is gonna do what
I wanted to do, but if it doesn't, I'm kind
of screwed.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
I feel like all the movies from like six through
twelve are really kind of the because I feel like
one through five are gonna they're all gonna make money.
Six through twelve is where it's gonna be decided. Disclosure Day,
the Mandalorian, Supergirl, Scary Movie, Masters of the Universe. How
much money of those movies gonna make? You know, because
those are the ones I feel like could bomb or
(49:09):
could make three hundred million dollars. Yeah, this happens to.
Speaker 4 (49:13):
Me every year where I'm like, oh, I probably should
have taken this over that, like Mowana. Mowana is probably
gonna do great numbers, and I technically had an opportunity
to take Bowana, but I didn't, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Yeah, I had the same feeling with it, though I
was as part of me that's like, stay away from Mowana.
I like don't want maai, you know what I mean? Yeah,
watch that end up being the number one movie of
the summer.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
Well, that brings us to the Wick Award predictions. So
what's the amount of money that you predict your team
more before bonuses? Before bonuses? Of course, let's see here.
Let me just crunch the numbers real quick. I'm gonna
go with one point five billion. Holy moully, you're looking
(49:58):
for that real high? It seems high, all right, one
point five billion.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, that's probably too high. I'm probably gonna go over.
I should I should have gotten lower, but I'm already in.
I'm in too deep.
Speaker 4 (50:09):
I'm gonna go eight seventy five, eight seventy five. I'm
gonna go a little lower because I have a feeling I'm.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Probably gonna go over. That was that was real high.
Immediately regret it. One point five billion, so much?
Speaker 4 (50:24):
Eight hundred and seventy five million. Still, you know, that's nothing.
We like, it's not hitting a billion mark, which I think.
I mean, it's before bonuses, So I mean, I'm hoping
for a bonus on the death of Robinhood.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
But I don't know. So last year I predicted one
point four billion, My actual was one point five seven eight.
So it's possible you last year predicted, oh, this is interesting,
one billion and forty five million, one point zero four
five and your actual was eight hundred and thirty eight.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
See, so I'm I'm getting closer to realizing that I
might lose.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
I think you'll be much higher this year, but that
going over rule, I should have been a little more conservative.
But you know, I'm going by my going by my numbers.
My numbers guy was like.
Speaker 4 (51:14):
This is it.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
This is what you gotta do.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
This is what your accountant told you. Your CPA does
he have a CPA disease?
Speaker 2 (51:22):
CPA's got a CPA. So yeah, we'll see what happens
with those. It's a good bonus there for the person
who gets it. We can both get it, though, right
or is this one person? How does this work? I
should know? No, only one team, the team that comes closest,
So only one team gets it.
Speaker 4 (51:37):
Here is so far away. I don't even have to
worry unless I knock myself out. All right, Patrick, it's
been a journey. But before we wrap up, what's you know?
This is the question we always ask, what's the one
summer movie you're most excited for? What's the top of
your list this first year. I'm excited for a lot
of the movies on this list, both of our lists.
(51:57):
The easy answer for me is Disclosure Day. It's my
cup of tea as people know me, you know who
have listened to the podcast, and I can only hope
that it withstands my own internal hype, you know.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (52:11):
But number two, if you're just saying Patrick, go beyond
what your like comfort zone is, I'd say something a
little less mainstream, like the Death of Robin Hood. I
really am also looking forward to backrooms. Maybe both those
A twenty four's look really just right in that sweet
spot of things that I think look like unique stories
(52:34):
that we've been talking about craving so much. What do
you think of those?
Speaker 2 (52:38):
I think I'm on the same page with a lot
of those. That number one is probably also Disclosure Day.
It's the one I just you know, has a lot
of the things I like. I'm a a Spielberg guy.
I'm interested in everything he does. I want to see
him return to like aliens and outer space and fascination.
This is the first movie I think he wrote like
a long long time.
Speaker 4 (52:58):
Which tells you something like the fact that he's attached
to this movie in this way. I feel like it's
gonna be good because of that. Right, Yeah, he's invested,
he's into it. Yeah, this isn't a like I just
kind of like put my stamp on there and it's
just some other movie. He's in it.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Another guy's in it to win it is, you know,
Christopher Nolan. The Odyssey is probably another thing. I'm like
just so curious, like what is this thing gonna be.
It's gonna be an odyssey, It's gonna be an odyssey,
But what is it gonna be? Like is he makes
spectacles and he makes movies to be seen in movie theaters.
So I'm just real curious to see kind of what
he comes out with. Plus, you know the guy who's
(53:37):
like his last movie was a hit, he won a
bunch of awards. It's like, here's a blank check, go
do anything you want. It's usually when people go a
little nuts, so I want to see what he throws
together there. And then on the indie side, I mentioned
the invite that's probably my age twenty four. That's the
one I'm like, I like the people who are in this.
It has one of those plots where you're like, where
does this go? I want to see what happens here?
(53:58):
So yeah, I'm in for those.
Speaker 4 (54:00):
Yeah, the trailers are doing some work this year making
you interested in something. You don't even know what the
story is, but you're kind of curious as to, like
you said, where the story goes or what's the ending
of this. I'd like to know. Yeah, nice diversity of
product this year. I think we have some pretty evenly
matched teams. I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Will it come down to the trade back to the
future at the end of the summer.
Speaker 4 (54:26):
I mean, I do have the number one pick, So technically,
if I lost the draft and I'm like, hey, I'm
just gonna go for it. A spider Man makes like
five hundred or six hundred million dollars and you lose
the draft, it's not going to do that much good
for you to trade that one.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4 (54:43):
But if I lose by like a hundred million, then
it could happen. All right, everyone, we have come to
the end. Tune in for our follow up episode in
the fall, when we crunch the numbers, add up our bonuses,
and find out whose team emerges victorious in this year's
Summer movie draft. That's it for this episode of movies
(55:05):
and marketing. Until next time, Let's fade to black.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
I'll be back.
Speaker 4 (55:12):
He's done coming back.
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