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June 7, 2025 30 mins
Denise Stoner is proud to be a part of MUFON (Mutual UFO Network) Experiencer Resource Team (ERT) working under and is Assistant Director of Abduction Research, to Director Dr. George Medich.  She also holds the following positions as, Florida MUFON Field Investigator, StarTeam Member, SSD and is also State Director of FL MUFON.She co-authored and published her first book “The Alien Abduction Files” released in May of 2013 with Kathleen Marden.She holds educational forums both public and private gatherings for abduction experiencers.  Her involvement in the UFO field spans more than 40 years.    Denise has an educational background in business and psychology, and is a certified hypnotist specializing in regressive hypnosis. She began her research in hypnosis under Dr. Bob Romack, (Denver, CO). They worked together for five years on pain control, smoking cessation, and past life regression research. Denise worked for 8+ years in Denver, CO at Department of Interior, National Park Service for the Saudi Arabia Team. Their task was to do the Planning, Design, and Construction of the first National Park in that country. It is called the Asir. The team of 4 won an award from Park Service for their work. Denise was in charge of the $3 million contract, working with the Embassies involved with visas and foreign travel, was liaison between the 4 team members and Saudi requests, protocol, and more. Her “retirement” from the Federal Government - after spending 12 years with the US Navy doing background investigations for new recruits wanting to enter the Nuclear Power School - has allowed her to expand her work with UFO research and investigation. Denise has appeared on TV to include the Travel Channel, PBS Weird Florida with Charlie Carlson, and been a guest on many radio shows.  Denise is currently moving forward with some exciting new projects including work she is doing in the field of Past Lives involving possible abductions along with paranormal experiences and how they might all connect in past to present history.Denise facilitates private workshops for Experiencers in the Orlando FL area along with MUFON meetings for the public. Her Hypnosis certification was earned through Hypnosis & Regression Training at the Hypnotic Research Society by Dr. Ronald P. De Vasto. Advanced Forensic Regression study through the National Guild of Hypnotists, Inc. by Donald J. Mottin.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:19):
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Speaker 3 (02:23):
And it's another Saturday right here at Night Dreams Stock Radio.
You know, the other night we were talking on the
show about Japan and China are cashing out the treasury
bonds and what that is going to do to our economy.
You know, we have the tariffs which is actually really
hurting our economy right now. And if you haven't been

(02:44):
to the store, he might even find it starting to
get hard to get toilet paper. But what's going on
now with Japan jac cashing out the treasury bonds is
going to well make it really hard for people to
finance and buy a home, and they're going to raise
the credit where you're going to have a perfect credit score,

(03:06):
You're going to have to have a real solid income
very shortly even to buy a house because you know,
they're not going to have the money in circulation, because
people don't realize Japan was our biggest purchaser treasury bonds
and mortgage notes. They were buying millions of mortgage notes

(03:28):
and they're even dumping those.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah, that's going to cause a big domino effect across
the border of everything, I'm sure. And then hopefully it
doesn't become like you mentioned before, we got to have
a world barrel wall of money just to buy a
gallon of milk.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Eventually, Well, that is really scary. You know they're talking
about we in the second quarter are going to go
into a recession. But now we're getting hit with a
double whammy. And you know this, I hate to say it,
this is because we started putting the terrace on and
that caused financial strains to other countries. So then they

(04:04):
kind of they were hurting. So instead of having the
ex or money to buy these torutory notes, they had
to start you know, cashing them in. That is really scary,
and people don't really they don't talk much about that.
That's only been coming out this week on the news.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Yeah, I haven't heard much about it. You're right, They
kind of like, you know, don't want to keep that
on the download, I guess. But that stuff is scary
because listen, and here's the other thing. When you push
back or at another countries, most countries aren't going to
sit there and just say, okay, you're going to get
it's tit for tatting back and forth, and nobody really wins.
I don't think, well.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
You know, if you really think about it, this country
is totally financially bankrupt. If every it's like if you
were borrowing money, right and you put stuff up, you know,
for security, and then you you know, all of a
sudden they said, well you know what we gave you
two your term, your on your loan and it's two years,

(05:03):
so do you have the money? No, but I do an. No,
we're not going to do another loan. So the next
thing you know, yourself was gone, your big screen is gone,
and your bed is gone, and knowing you, your refrigerator's
gone with all your mountain dew.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Yeah, you know, it's it's a it's a really funny
situation because you or Joe, average Joe like you just mentioned,
you know, you don't have the money, or you're so
far in debt you can't just say well, let's just
keep on going and get alone like you're mentioning, like
the country does. Is why we're trillions of dollars in debt.
It's it's ridiculous us. They would say, no, matter of fact,

(05:40):
that bankruptcy are put you in jail or something. Take
all your possessions like you mentioned.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
No, that's okay. You know my daughter when she was
really young, about eight years old, she wanted something at
the store and we didn't have enough money, and she
went into the bedroom and she knew where my wife
had the checks, and she goes, well, here, mom, just
write a check and we had explain you just can't
write a check as you can. There's a lot of
people who done it and they get free room and board.

(06:06):
But you know, we were in that situation. I didn't
want that type of free room and board and meals.
You know that. Well, anyway, we got Guy Ticker with
the news and then we got Denissan. We're going to
talk about et abductions and all that tonight right here
on night dreamstock Radio. Check out our website for more
information about our guests at night Dreamstockradio dot com.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
This is NDTR Breaking News. This is Guy Ticker and
the Night Dreams Talk Radio Network Newsroom.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
This just in.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Claims coming out of Washington are raising eyebrows and sparking
wild speculation across the globe. According to former Trump Administration
science advisor Michael Kratzios, the United States may now possess
technology that can manipulate time and space. That's right, according
to this report just in off the Wire. Speaking at

(07:02):
a high level retreat in Austin, Texas, Krazio stated that
US advancements can now annihilate distance and may even cause
things to grow. Hintget revolutionary tools that go far beyond anything.
This reporter has seen before. But here's where it gets
even stranger.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Let me get to the next page.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Online Shatter suggests these technologies are being referred to by
some as bent and bent time and could possibly obliterate targets,
bend reality and alter the very flow of time. Are
these rumors based in truth or are they just the
latest wave of high tech conspiracies. We'll get to the

(07:44):
bottom of it now. While Krazios did not go into
specific experts, believe and I have that ride here that
he may have been referring to experimental programs in quantum computing,
AI and advanced military tech that remain hidden from public view.
Of course, as of now, there's no official confirmation of

(08:07):
these more extreme capabilities, but the silence from official channels
is only fueling more questions. One thing is certain, at
least in this reporter's eyes, something big is happening behind
the scenes. Whether it's scientific breakthrough or science fiction. We'll
keep our eyes on it, you bet we will. This

(08:30):
is Guy Ticker of the Night Dreams Talk Radio Network
News Room. We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.
This has been breaking news on the Night Dreams Talk
Radio Network. Stay tuned to your local station for further updates.

(08:51):
Denise Stoner is proud to be part of Mouffon, the
mutual UFO network. She's on the Muffon Experience a Resource
team and Assistant Director of Abduction Research under Director Doctor
George Metich. She also holds the following positions Florida Mouffon
Field Investigator Star Team Member SSD, and she's also State

(09:13):
Director of Florida Moufon. Denise Stoner co author and then
published her first book, The Alien Abduction Files, released in
May of twenty thirteen with Kathleen Martin. Denise holds educational
forums in both public and private gatherings for abduction experiencers.
Our involvement in the UFO field spans more than forty years.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Well, Denise, welcome to the show. How are you doing
the Saturday night kid?

Speaker 5 (09:43):
I'm doing fantastic, Happy to be here and thank you
for inviting me back.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Well, it seems like you're drinking root beer and I'm
drinking doctor Pepper, So we got something in common, don't we.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
We're good.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Well, what got you into Mofon? Originally?

Speaker 5 (10:01):
I was just looking for a place to land where
there were others like me that had had experiences and
just kind of dove in to see where and how
and what I could do to help other individuals and myself.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Well, what type of experiences did you have?

Speaker 5 (10:24):
Well, from the time I was two and a half,
I remembered a little visitor and also seeing this huge
craft outside my window. Something triggered that memory, and that
was that my mom was in the hospital giving birth
to my sister. I had never been alone without her there.

(10:45):
My grandfather was there, but he was doing dishes, and
everything was quiet. It was night, and I was standing
on a little sofa I had climbed up and I
was looking out the window and I saw a huge
egg shaped object just above the lines telephone lines, and
as a kid, I thought it was Humpty Dumpty, if

(11:06):
you remember that nursery rhyme. And I was wondering where
his eyes and nose and mouth had gone, and I
was kind of watching to see if he would fall over.
My grandfather came through and I said, could you see
Humpty Dumpty's up in the sky. What's he doing there?
And he looked outside and I saw fear. I can

(11:29):
remember his face now, and I saw fear and he said,
let's go upstairs and read a story and go to bed.
So he took me upstairs, got me ready for bed,
and my wallpaper was all nursery rhyme characters. So when
my grandfather left the room, I started looking for Humpty
Dumpty to see if he was in the wallpaper, and

(11:51):
he wasn't. I was looking around, and all of a sudden,
this little entity stepped out through the wallpaper. He was
dressed like a monk. He had a hood on bell
shaped sleeves, kind of a rope around his waist, and
he could stand on the side of my bed and

(12:12):
look me right in the eyes. He was very small.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
How small was How small was he?

Speaker 5 (12:18):
I don't think he was over three feet. He was
just very small. And I could lean up on my
elbow and look into that hood he was wearing and
see these great, big dark eyes. So he was looking
out at me. I couldn't make out the rest of
his face, but he just kind of communicated that he

(12:41):
wanted me to go with him. And I had been
taught never to be afraid back then, I didn't have to,
and I knew my parents were always there for me.
Grandparents also, so I said okay, and he put his
hand out, but in his other hand he had a

(13:01):
very long, skinny something with a light on the end.
I didn't know about tools or anything like that at
my age.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
You remember doctor who, Yes, do you remember his a
little screwdriver?

Speaker 5 (13:17):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Did it look something like that?

Speaker 5 (13:21):
I would say, very similar, very similar to that? Is
that makes me wonder where did they get that idea?

Speaker 3 (13:29):
But maybe one of the writers could have been abducted.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
Uh, makes you wonder. So he took my other hand
and we walked out of the bedroom was on the
second floor, and into the hallway, and there was wallpaper
there also, and he touched the wallpaper and he's kind
of indicated, hold my hand, don't let go. And when

(13:54):
he did that, we passed right through the wallpaper and
I was in a space maybe another time. All the
walls were very smooth. There were benches and they were
a part of the wall because there were no nuts
and bolts or seams. And I just stood and looked

(14:14):
and this curved way around that bench type thing, and
I looked and way at the far end there were
other children, all in their pajamas and they were sitting
all together kind of huddled together, and there was another
little entity carrying with what looked like, oh, some kind

(14:36):
of writing instrument, and he was holding that and he
was walking back and forth and the one, the entity
that took me, said we'll be coming back. You'll get
to join them next time. And he took my hand,
turned around and back we came through the wallpaper.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Oh wow, And how old were you when this happened?

Speaker 5 (14:59):
I was two half, two and a half, really little.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
You know a lot of people say, oh, people can't
remember stuff at that age. You know. I remember when
I was about three years old, my parents went to
Montana to a ghost town, you know, uh place, camping
with relatives, and I remember they there was a fire
and there was a giant frog that I was chasing,
and you know, and I brought that up before my

(15:24):
mom died, back you know, years ago, and she goes,
you remember that. I go, yeah, wow. Yeah. So a
lot of people do have good memories where they you know,
they might now now deep Denise, they might not remember
they put their car keys or their shoes, but they
can remember stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
So true. And I'm looking for those car keys a
lot of the time.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Look in the freezer. That's where I end up putting mind.
But go ahead.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Oh hey, But anyway, this little entity came back for
me often on for as long as I could remember,
into oh gosh, seventh and eighth grade. When we actually
picked up. I lived in Connecticut and little New England Town,

(16:13):
and then we moved to California. My dad had wanted
to get into aerospace, so he had finished school. We
picked up and moved, and I had a whole different
set of circumstances because I was taken there. Also, I
ran into something that I could compare with what was

(16:33):
in Connecticut. That was an entity that was really tall
and really skinny, and I called him the oil can man.
Do you remember those old oil cans that if you
clicked on the top, you would pump out the oil
through this tube and it would kind of make a
clock clock sound.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Oh click at remember those? So what topic head did
it have? You? Remember?

Speaker 5 (17:00):
That? Yes? Real kind of small, and he had kind
of the big eyes, not as big as a gray,
but large eyes. He had a little bit more in
the way of features because I could see like a
brow ridge. He was hairless and like I said, very skinny.

(17:22):
His skin color not quite gray, more of a tannish color.
And he had fingers, not five, he had four. And
the thing is, on the one hand, he had this thing,
this unit that he would he would chase me and
I would run. In the middle of the night. I'd

(17:45):
find myself in this little New England town outside my house,
and he would chase me until he could reach over
my shoulder and click some of that liquid onto my shoulder.
And when he did, I realized that I was forgetting
some of the things that had happened to me.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Very interesting. Didn't now when you this was happening to you.
Did you go up to your parents and tell them
what was going on? I did.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
I said I'd had a visitor, and I'd had a
visitor more than once. And this was when I was
pretty little, and so my mom I heard her telling
my grandmother that I had an imaginary friend. The difference
was I knew that something was going on with my
parents also because we had all three bedrooms upstairs, my

(18:36):
grandparents in the middle room, my sister and I on
the end, my parents at the other end. And my
dad was in the Army Air Corps back then, and
he was a bomber, so he knew a lot about aircraft,
a lot of things you know that took to the air.
And he and my mom had gone to bed one
night and they told this story. They had a big

(18:59):
window I could see just looking down to the foot
of the bed, and they saw, or my dad saw
these lights and this odd shaped object down in our
backyard and it was moving towards the house and it
was huge, and he commented to my mom, if that
hits the house, we're done. But his reaction was kind

(19:23):
of crazy because the next time he remembered anything, it
was morning right after he thought that. Normally he would
have run down the hall, wakened my grandparents, wakened myself,
my sister, got us downstairs and out of there.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
He did not.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
He didn't remember what happened after he made that comment,
So I know something. Yeah, yeah, it is. They never
spoke of it other than to just tell that story. Ye, yes,
that would be nineteen fifty one to fifty three. Well,

(20:06):
you know somewhere in there, you.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Know, back then, let's be honest, a lot of people
didn't want to communicate any of that type of stuff
because I mean, if you did, you know, even back
ten years ago, but back in the fifties and the
early sixties, if you started talking about UFOs or you know,
being you know, humpty dumpty or any of that type

(20:28):
of stuff, people would really look at you strangely. And
if he was in the military at that time too,
you know, and it sounds like he was a bambadeer,
that it could have really affected his career.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
Oh, Gary, you are so right, it could have. And
I think that's why after the story was told, I
don't recall him ever mentioning it to friends or other relatives,
but just among us. And then at one time he
told it and I asked him again, he said, I've

(21:03):
told it, That's what happened, and that was the end
of it. But he could keep secrets like nobody else either.
He had a clearance, I'm sure later on working for
the aerospace company, and I could never get anything out
of him. I would ask, what's going on, what are
you doing? No, he wouldn't tell.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Now what that happened. How about go with your father
or anybody else in the family, you have that type
of thing.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
I have been researching something that my mom told me,
and I have a feeling that she was abducted. A
very strange situation when she was a little girl and
was walking home with a new friend. And the new
friend's dad was a doctor at Hartford Hospital and he

(21:57):
was kind of up there in control of an one
or two floors or exactly how much. And when they
were walking home, all of a sudden, my mom saw
somebody standing in a building that was just being constructed
across the street, and she said, I have to go
in there. And her friend, her new friend, said I'm

(22:17):
not going with you. Don't go in there. Well she did,
and when she went in there, that figure that was
in the doorway stepped back and she said, it wasn't normal.
I know, it wasn't normal. And her friend was gone.
When she came out, she was missing an hour and
a half. She was supposed to be at home getting

(22:38):
dinner ready, and none of that happened.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Here's something, Yeah, now you mentioned that, have you ever
had lost time?

Speaker 5 (22:48):
Yes, My husband and I in nineteen eighty two crossing
it was called South Park Valley, Big Glacier Valley in Colorado,
and we were coming from Denver to our campsite in
Buena Vista, and the whole trip took about three hours. Well,

(23:09):
we were missing about two and a half hours of
that time. We stopped at the top of the pass
before we went down into the valley, and I saw
these lights way out. It was high desert. There were
no trees, nothing, one ranch at one end, and a
very small town called Jefferson. So we went down the

(23:31):
pass and landed on the park floor, the desert floor,
and started to move. And as we did, the lights
came across the desert toward us, and I was talking
to my husband and saying, what's going on, look over there.
He didn't move. He was holding onto the steering wheel

(23:51):
and steering straight ahead, so he didn't respond. And we
had a new car, so he had set the odomeitory.
He liked to make sure everything was working correctly. He
was military also, so he liked everything just so well.
The lights came and went over the top of the car,

(24:11):
and when I stuck my head out the window and looked,
I saw those lights were attached to some kind of
huge object.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
You remember what it looked like at all?

Speaker 5 (24:23):
Yes, I do, because we saw it.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Land.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
Oh, if you took two dinner plates and you touched
the two bottoms together so that the outer part curled
up on both ends, but it also could fold in
on itself. Those two dinner plates could fold into a
regular disk shape. So this thing was over us, and

(24:49):
I felt the car move to the side and then
lift off the road, and I kept talking to my
husband and he wasn't responding. Took us across into the
high desert and then landed, and then this thing came
over the hood of the car and settled on the
ground in front of us.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
How big was that?

Speaker 5 (25:11):
It was bigger than our car, which at the time.
If do you remember what a Ford Granada.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Was, Yeah, unfortunately, I.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
Yep, that's what it was. We liked it because it
was pretty.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
So anyway, don't yellow though, please don't.

Speaker 5 (25:31):
No, it was a real pretty shade of blue. You've
had some experience with those. I oh boy. Anyway, when
it came over the top of the car, it was
sticking out on both sides, so it was maybe size
of three of those vehicles, and moved over to the

(25:54):
front hood, settled down, And the next thing I recalled
was I was inside the craft and I had quite
an experience in there inside and there were millions of
lights running around. That's the center core on the on
the outside of it. I don't remember how I got inside.

(26:18):
I just know that all of a sudden I was
inside the craft.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Can you remember what it looked like inside? Was it
me looking or did you? It was smooth? What can
you tell us about what it looked like inside?

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Well, there was light, but I couldn't tell where the
light source was. Everything was lit. It was just a
bluish color. Everything was smooth. There was there were no
rough edges. There were many of little tiny we call

(26:57):
them grays now, lined up back to back, all along
one wall, and they weren't moving. I had feeling and
still do that those were robots and they only moved
when directed to. I was with who I know now
was my tall gray who was oh gosh, five and
a half feet tall, six feet somewhere in there. And

(27:21):
he was walking me down the hall into a room.
And this room had an odd table that came about
it the floor that was also a smooth, no seams,
nothing rough. Sat me on the table, touched my forehead,
which took away the fear that I had. I was terrified,

(27:43):
and that eased it as soon as he would touch
right in the center of my forehead. So I got
on the table and when I looked down at my feet,
I saw a figure standing there. And this was what
we call a mantis. He looked just like a praying mantis,
except he was standing up on two legs.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
How tall was that?

Speaker 5 (28:05):
He was pretty tall. He was taller than the gray
so six and a half seven feet maybe taller.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Compared to the bottom.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
Very skinny and narrow like a mantis. It was all
it all fit together. It didn't look like he had
odd parts. It looked like it was all a part
of who he was. And he had that mandible that
a praying mantis has. And because he looked up and

(28:37):
I could see all the workings underneath his chin and
his eyes if you put a point up at the
top of your forehead a point at the bottom and
made that kind of an oval shape. But he blinked sideways,
not like we do up and down. He blinked sideways

(29:01):
and had kind of odd looking probably protecting his eyes
that covered when he blinked. He was looking at me,
and he was wearing what I think was some sort
of scientists white jacket, and there was there were no

(29:22):
emblems or anything that I noticed on it. He walked
up to me and he injected a needle into my navel,
which was very painful, and I kicked at him.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
I would now we need to take a break, so
we're going to find out, you know, what he did
after you kicked at him with So we'll be back
with an East Stoner right after this break. It's about
three and a half minutes long. We're going to play
a little bit of Phil Collins here right after this,
So stay dou.

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On Purpose with Jay Shetty

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

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