December 5, 2025 • 27 mins
Black-Eyed Kids & Men In Black: The Connection - Part 2
Episode 464 | December 5, 2025
In Tonight’s Episode of Paranormal Mysteries...
I’ll be diving back into the topic of Black-Eyed Kids and the Men In Black, and whether the two might be somehow connected, and possibly even originating from the same place. I’ll also be sharing some new experiences with these bizarre entities that I think you’ll enjoy.
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Episode 464 | December 5, 2025
In Tonight’s Episode of Paranormal Mysteries...
I’ll be diving back into the topic of Black-Eyed Kids and the Men In Black, and whether the two might be somehow connected, and possibly even originating from the same place. I’ll also be sharing some new experiences with these bizarre entities that I think you’ll enjoy.
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- Mysterious Universe
https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2025/11/The-Potentially-Shared-and-Unexplained-Agenda-of-the-Black-Eyed-Children-and-the-Men-In-Black-/
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This episode is brought to you by my newest supporter, Bobo.
Thank you so much for making the show possible. Thank
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you for joining me, and welcome back. I'm your host,
Nick Ryan. In Part one, I shared the first half
of an article from Mysterious Universe discussing the possible connection
between Black Eyed Kids and men in Black. I covered
several reports that focused on b e K specifically, but
tonight I'll be talking mainly about the MIBs, and as
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I said before, I've included a link to the full
article in the show notes if you'd like to read
it for yourself. Now let's continue on with the article.
An intriguing men in Black encounter occurred in the early
nineteen seventies when a man named doctor Hopkins, who had
been investigating UFO sightings for several years, claimed to have
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received an out of the blue visit from a strange
man dressed in a black suit, black hat, and a
large black coat. When this mysterious visitor removed his hat,
doctor Hopkins could see that he was completely hairless and
overly pale. Ultimately, the strange gentleman recommended that doctor Hopkins
cease his UFO research, before stating that he had to
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leave as his energy was running low. One of the
most thought provoking encounters with the men in Black, however,
happened several years before this, at the start of the
nineteen sixty In November of nineteen sixty one, Paul Miller,
along with three of his friends, was returning home in
North Dakota from a hunting trip. It was as they
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were making their way along the quiet highway that they
noticed a strange looking object overhead, which then proceeded to
land in a field by the roadside. To begin with,
the four friends thought they were seeing a small plane
make an emergency landing, and so they slowed their vehicle
down in case those involved required help. However, as they
approached close to where the object had come down, it
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simply disappeared. They continued on their way, each of them
rather perplexed about what they had seen and unable to
offer a rational explanation for it. Several moments later, though,
the object suddenly reappeared, and this time two humanoid figures
emerged from inside of it. Miller brought their vehicle to
a stop and stepped outside. He grabbed his gun and
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raised it and fired it at the two strange humanoids
appearing to wound one of them. Fearful though of the
bizarre scenario unfolding in front of them, Miller jumped back
into the car and they drove away as fast as
they could. It was only when they were approaching the
town of Minote that all the men realized that they
couldn't account for the last three hours. Realizing something out
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of the ordinary had taken place, the four men agreed
to keep the encounter to themselves and not report it.
The following day, however, things took an even stranger turn. Miller,
despite still feeling shaken by the bizarre events of the
previous evening, went to work at his Air Force office.
Not long after he arrived, though, three men in black
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suits arrived, asking to speak with them. Miller asked to
see their identification, which was something they declined to show
and stating only that they worked for the government. They
then said to him that they hoped that he was
telling the truth about the UFO that he witnessed, which
was something that froze Miller on the spot. He asked
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them how they knew about the incident, given that he
and none of the other witnesses had reported it. To
which the men simply stated that they had heard a report.
Miller later recalled that these men knew everything about him,
where he worked, everything, adding that even how they asked
questions about the sighting, it was cleared that they already
knew the answers, and as such would even know if
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he was lying. Miller was sufficiently shaken by the meeting,
so much so that it was several years before he
finally reported the incident to UFO investigators. A very similar
encounter occurred several years later in July of nineteen sixty
seven in Toledo, Ohio, when Robert Richardson was driving to
a meeting of the Aerial Phenomenal Research Organization also known
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as APRO. Richardson recalled that as he was rounding a
bend in the road, he was suddenly confronted with a
bizarre object that had suddenly appeared in front of him.
He didn't have time to fully apply the brakes, and
his car collided with the object. Although the impact was minimal, then,
to his utter shock, the object simply disappeared before his
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very eyes. He immediately reported the incident to local police,
who accompanied him back to the scene of the incident. However,
when they arrived, all they found were his tire marks
on the road where he had put on his brakes.
Richardson returned home, but the encounter swirled around in his mind,
so much so that he returned to the scene a
short time later, and this time he discovered a small
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lump of metal, which he thought could have come from
the mysterious object. So he picked up the piece of
metal and he took it home with them. He thought
this would be the end of the incident, but three
days later, at around eleven p m. A knock came
on Richardson's front door. When he answered it, he was
confronted with two men, both seemingly in their twenties and
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both dressed in dark suits. Although they didn't identify themselves,
they entered his home and began questioning him, making it
discreetly clear that they were privy to the knowledge that
was not available to the wider public. They stayed for
around ten minutes before leaving in a black Cadillac and
leaving him a card with a phone number on it.
When Richardson tried calling the number a short time later,
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he received a strange automatic message that the number was
not yet issued. Over the next week, Richardson began to
put the episodes out of his mind, believing that whatever
had taken place, the surreal events were now behind him. However,
one evening, again completely out of the blue, two different men,
again dressed in dark suits, arrived at his property. They
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spoke to him about the UFO he had seen, attempting
to convince him that he hadn't seen or hit anything unusual. However,
it was when they mentioned the piece of metal that
he had recovered that he was taken aback, as he
had only mentioned it to two close APRO colleagues. Richardson
then informed the men that the piece of metal had
been sent for analysis, to which the men responded, if
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you want your wife to stay as pretty as she is,
then you'd better get the metal back. Richardson wondered if
these mysterious visitors had obtained information by interrogating the APRO investigators,
through phone taps, or perhaps even by more paranormal means.
He also noticed that while one of the men spoke
perfect English, the other had a heavy, unidentifiable accent. He
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also said that there was something vaguely foreign about them.
Two decades later, one of the most chilling Men in
Black Encounters on Record unfolded in with Ville, Virginia. In
early July of nineteen eighty seven, Radio journalist Danny Gordon
was working for the country music radio station WYVE when
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he became aware of a UFO report from the Sheriff's department,
with several of the witnesses being police officers. Although he
had no real interest in such matters and he was
skeptical of the report, it was his own hometown, so
he decided to investigate the sighting further and subsequently presented
a light hearted piece on his show. To his surprise,
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as soon as the show aired, multiple listeners rang in
to report their own sightings. In fact, there were so
many reports from listeners that he had to set up
a program dedicated to such reports, and he described the
response as a lightning rod moment. The more reports from
listeners that came in, the more people reported their own encounters,
with descriptions tending to be of egg shaped objects and
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involving red, green, and white flashing lights around them. Although
Gordon believed that his listeners were definitely seeing something, he
was still certain that a rational explanation could be found.
The military, for example, saw fit to comment that what
people were actually witnessing was nothing more than military aerial
refueling missions, which was something that was rejected by many people. Gordon,
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looking to clarify this explanation, contacted an Air force general
at the Pentagon. However, he was told that such refueling
missions would only at an altitude of over thirteen thousand
feet and under no circumstances would they take place below this,
And as many of the reports were of objects at
an approximate altitude of around five thousand feet, the military
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explanation suddenly seemed to be on very shaky ground. At
this point, Gordon sought out the help of his friend
Roger Hall to assist with the investigations. They decided they
needed to see one of the objects for themselves, and
so they began traveling to locations where they had been reported.
They spent several hours in one such location, but didn't
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spot anything out of the normal, and so they decided
to drive toward the main town. And it was during
this very journey that both men spotted a very unusual
object coming across the horizon. Gordon brought their vehicle to
a stop so they could take in as much detail
as possible, describing the object as very large, with a
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dome shaped top and a strobe putting out multicolored lights
from the right side. All described the object as being
the size of two football fields, with three huge picture
windows at the back, and moving at an altitude of
around one thousand feet. Stranger still, Gordon reported seeing a
red or blan like object approached the larger craft and
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then dock with it. The pair were so shocked by
what they were seeing that they completely forgot to take
any photographs of the aerial anomaly, but when they returned
to the location the following evening, they managed to capture
several images, although the images themselves were blurred and only
captured part of the object. By this stage, Gordon realized
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they were investigating something of importance, and so he arranged
for a press conference to reach a wider audience. The
night before the press conference, however, things took an ominous
turn when Gordon received a rather unsettling phone call from
a mysterious individual, who of course declined to identify himself. Ultimately, though,
he was told that the CIA and federal government were
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very interested in the sightings that had been reported. In
with County and that he should leave it alone and
not mess in defense matters. Undeterred, Gordon went on ahead
with the press conference. However, when he returned home the
following evening after his regular radio show, he was shocked
to find that his home had been broken into. Despite
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the carnage and mess that he found his place in,
it didn't appear that anything had actually been taken. Although
he was now beginning to question just what he had
become involved in, and even his wife urged him to
pull back a little from his investigations. The reports, though,
continued to come in. Things settled down for several weeks,
but then Gordon, along with his wife and daughter, witnessed
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another of these mysterious aerial vehicles. They had spent the
day at a shopping center and were heading back to
their car when they noticed several children looking upward and
pointing at the sky. They turned their attention to where
the children were looking and were shocked to see four
different aircraft flying in four moreover, the objects, despite their size,
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moved in complete silence. Realizing he had his camera with him,
Gordon once more managed to capture a photograph. However, coincidentally
or not, the moment after he had done so, all
four of the objects vanished. He estimated that around two
hundred people witnessed this event alone, and by early October,
around three months after his initial show detailing such sightings,
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he had in excess of fifteen hundred reports in his files.
It wasn't long after this mass sighting that Gordon received
another chilling phone call at his home. This time, though,
the person claimed they were a retired military intelligence officer,
who told Gordon to record their conversation in case anything
happened to him. This former intelligence officer then stated that
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he too had investigated UFO sightings for years, and that
he had also received interrogating phone calls as well as
outright threats. Concerning though, were his claims that, as a
consequence for his actions, his son had been given leukemia,
from which he had sadly died. He then warned Gordon
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that they will try to hit you if they think
it's advisable for their purposes, and they would do this
with skin contact chemicals placed on his door handle or
his steering wheel. Moreover, he was warned that he would
almost certainly be unaware of such action until he became ill. Incidentally,
part of this conversation was aired on the television show
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Unsolved Mysteries several years later. Needless to say, Gordon was
shaken by what he was told and now began to
reconsider his investigations into such matters. Then several weeks later,
Gordon received a visit at his home from two men
who claim to be journalists who were investigating his work.
Both appeared to be professional and neatly dressed, and so
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Gordon agreed to be interviewed. The interview lasted around forty
five minutes, with one man speaking to Gordon and the
other casually walking around the house every now and then
taking a picture. Then the two men left, giving Gordon
a card with their contact details and promising to send
him a copy of the newspaper with the interview in it. Well,
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several days passed, and when no newspaper arrived at his property,
Gordon contacted the newspaper to ask if the article had appeared. However,
to his shock and growing uneasiness, he was told that
the newspaper had no journalists under the names that he
had given them. Moreover, they had no plans to run
an article on his investigation. This revelation caused Gordon to
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recall the interview, and it was then when he realized
just how much information the two men or whatever they were,
had actually obtained from their visit, not only what he
had willingly told them, but also from speaking with his
wife and daughter, as well as from all the photographs
they took. He then recalled the man who had been
wandering around his home during the interview, and when he
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went and checked his negatives from the shopping centers sighting,
he discovered that they were missing. These latest disturbing events
proved to be the breaking point for Gordon and his family,
with his wife moving out of the house with their
daughter terrified at who might call their home next. Although
Gordon didn't receive any more visits from mysterious gentlemen nor
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receive any further unsettling phone calls, he did suffer a
heart attack not long after, which he believed to have
been caused by all the stress. He too, eventually left
with County and stating several years later that if he
could go back in time, he would not report the
UFO story, and adding that it had caused too many
problems in his life. We should also contemplate if the
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two journalists were actually men in black, and it was
perhaps they who were behind the many problems, break INDs
and phone calls that Gordon received, and in this case
their tactics appeared to work. Before I continue, please consider
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Please stay tuned and I'll be right back after these
brief messages. It isn't just in the United States that
these encounters with men in black take place. There are
many such reports from Oliver Europe on record from hundreds
of years previously, and one of the most unsettling of
these men in black cases from outside the boundaries of
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the West, unfolded in Tokyo, Japan, and comes to us
from the research files of respected researcher and fellow mysterious
Uni Verse writer Brentce Swansar. The account features a ufoe
enthusiast named Nobu who had managed to capture several pieces
of footage of UFOs over central Tokyo. After working late
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one night at his office, Nobu was riding home on
the late night bus. To begin with, he was the
only passenger. However, after several stops, a strange, elderly gentleman
who was dressed entirely in black got on the bus
as well. Despite the bus being empty other than Nobu,
this man chose to sit in the seat directly opposite his,
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which was something that immediately unnerved him. Nobu faced forward,
not wanting to make any kind of eye contact with
the strange man, although he did occasionally steal a sideways
glance at him. When he did. However, he could see
that the man was looking out of his window, although
not at the moving terrain outside, but he was using
the window as a makeshift mirror to watch Nobu. Eventually,
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Nobu turned to face the man to take in as
much detail as possible. He could see the man's suit
was ill fitting and loose. While on his lap, he
had a black leather briefcase that he fidgeted with constantly.
The man also wore a strange black hat that was
a cross between a bowler hat and a fedora. Most
unsettling of although, was the man's unusually long, thin fingers,
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as well as his skin, which appeared to have streaks
on it, as if he was wearing some kind of
makeup that was running and so revealing a much paler
skin underneath. So unsettled was Nobu that he decided to
get off the bus a few stops early, not looking
back at the man once. As he stepped onto the
street and the bus pulled away. However, he turned to
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take a look back at the window seat where the
disturbing man had been sitting, to his utter shock, though
the man was no longer there and the bus was
now empty, he had somehow gotten off the bus unseen,
which seems unlikely whatever the truth may be, Though Nobu
was deeply disturbed and unsettled by his encounter. While the
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men in Black encounters that we have explored so far
have all taken place in the modern era, many accounts
stretch much further back in time, many of which are
documented in the book Case Book on the Men in
Black by Jim Keith. Keith points out, for example that
the moniker the black man was often synonymous with Satan
in the Middle Ages, although it is perfectly possible that
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these shadowy figures were the same figures we would recognize
as the men in black in our modern era. One
of the earliest accounts Keith Documents involved two shepherds in
France in fifteen twenty. Both shepherds eventually confessed to meeting
a tall dark man who told them that he was
the Devil's bondsman. This shadowy figure seemingly influenced the shepherds
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to do his bidding, and they went on to murder
five people before eating their victims. These were crimes for
which they were excit A similar incident occurred just over
half a century later, also in France, in fifteen seventy seven,
when a woman named Catherine Dorrie encountered a tall dark
man who convinced her to sacrifice her own child. Around
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a decade after that, in Great Britain, doctor John Fihon
was accused of plotting to kill the future King James
the First and was eventually put on trial for witchcraft
and for being a part of a witch's cabal. One
of those on trial with him Agnes Sampson stated during
the proceedings that they had regularly conversed with a strange,
mysterious man who was dressed in all black clothing and
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wore a black hat. This man, Samson offered, had a
face that was terrible, with glowing red eyes and claw
like hands. A particularly intriguing encounter unfolded in Salem, Massachusetts,
in sixteen ninety two, and adds another layer of nuance
and complexity to these mystifying encounters. According to this account,
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a West Indian slave claimed to have met a particularly
tall man with white hair in black clothing. It is
not entirely clear what the purpose of this meeting was
from the tall man's perspective, but the witness claimed that
he was accompanied by an equally tall creature who was
hairy all over, but who stood upright like a man.
Could this hairy man have been a bigfoot, a creature
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often seen in locations of UFO sightings, and which themselves
sometimes have a connection to the men in black We
will probably never know. One last thing to mention, here
are the apparent sightings of these men in black figures
during the times of plagues and the outbreaks of disease.
Perhaps the most infamous of these is the Black Death Records,
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of which, as limited as they are, document several strange
sightings of black cloaked men who were seen spraying some
kind of mist in wheat fields. Some witnesses even reported
seeing these strange, dark cloaked men mowing down wheat with
scythes which made a strange swooshing sound but did not
actually cut the wheat. Could these scythes actually have been
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some kind of technical device? And moreover, could these mysterious
cloaked men have given rise to claims of the grim Reaper,
who in turn could have been the men in black
of the medieval age. These are just a small handful
of these encounters with the tall dark men, usually dressed
in black clothing, and can be found across the centuries
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from the fifteen hundreds onward, and we can only imagine
how many others might have gone unrecorded in the centuries
before that. Were these strange individuals the men in black
of their age? And if so, perhaps we need to
readjust what the men in Black's agenda might be in
our modern world. And are these tall dark entities somehow
connected to the Black Eyed children, perhaps as a different
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manifestation from the same source. We should perhaps remind ourselves
of the words of Albert Bender, who, after his research
Church resulted in arguably one of the first books on
the UFO subject to gain traction in the wider public arena,
and afterwards received a visit from the Men in Black,
and shortly after his visit, Bender pulled back significantly from
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his research. He would, though, eventually state that the Men
in Black's true form was so monstrous that they used
their men in Black appearance to disguise themselves. If this
is true, then might we imagine that the black eyed
children might be another form of these strange figures. It
is interesting to note that those who have encountered the
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Men in Black, even in the modern era of the
two thousands, claim their attire and general appearance appear to
be locked in the late nineteen forties and nineteen fifties,
which happened to be when the modern UFO era began,
and many times the Black Eyed Kids are said to
wear clothing that also seems outdated, perhaps also from the
forties or fifties. With all of this in mind, the
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overwriting question is whether there is a connection between the
black guyed children and the men in black. If we
recall the twenty sixteen encounter with the black eyed children
in Vermont, for example, it appears the men who arrived
to collect the children were, for all intents and purposes,
the men in black. And it's also worth noting that
witnesses to both of these strange entities are always left
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confused and frightened, as well as having the notion, particularly
with the black eyed children, that they have to be
invited into a building before they can enter it, which
is reminiscent of vampire legends. Ultimately, if there is a
connection between these two mysterious figures, then we might ask
for what purpose do they interact with humanity? And while
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the answer to that question alludes us, one thing that
would appear to be certain is that these interactions are
not for humanity's benefit. I really wanted to share this
article with you, mainly because of the interesting reports it mentioned,
but honestly it did fall a bit short when trying
to connect the dots between b e ks and the MIBs.
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I do agree that there are many similarities in the
way these entities present themselves to the eye witnesses, including
their clothing, the ominous feeling they instill upon us, and
of course the way that they both seem to know
what we're thinking before we say it, and of course
the fact that they have allegedly been seen together. Like
most paranormal phenomena, though it's impossible to say one way
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or the other whether the two are somehow connected, and
although it might be interesting to ponder, I do think
the more important question is if the black eyed kids
and men in black are actually real? What are they aliens, demons,
or possibly something else altogether. Either way, whether they're real
or not, it's a good reminder that evil can take
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many forms, and while some may think that monsters only
dwell in dense forests or dark alleyways, it's important to
remember that sometimes it makes house calls. I really hope
you enjoyed tonight's episode, and if you've had an encounter
with either of these entities, I'd like to hear about
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your experience, and of course you can find all my
contact and support information in the show notes and at
Paranormal Mysteries podcast dot com. With that being said, I
hope you all have a wonderful rest of your evening,
and I'll be back in a few short days with
more tales of the unexplained, and until then, please remember
don't wait for the unknown to come to you. Get
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out there and find it.
This episode is brought to you by my newest supporter, Bobo.
Thank you so much for making the show possible. Thank
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you for joining me, and welcome back. I'm your host,
Nick Ryan. In Part one, I shared the first half
of an article from Mysterious Universe discussing the possible connection
between Black Eyed Kids and men in Black. I covered
several reports that focused on b e K specifically, but
tonight I'll be talking mainly about the MIBs, and as
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I said before, I've included a link to the full
article in the show notes if you'd like to read
it for yourself. Now let's continue on with the article.
An intriguing men in Black encounter occurred in the early
nineteen seventies when a man named doctor Hopkins, who had
been investigating UFO sightings for several years, claimed to have
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received an out of the blue visit from a strange
man dressed in a black suit, black hat, and a
large black coat. When this mysterious visitor removed his hat,
doctor Hopkins could see that he was completely hairless and
overly pale. Ultimately, the strange gentleman recommended that doctor Hopkins
cease his UFO research, before stating that he had to
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leave as his energy was running low. One of the
most thought provoking encounters with the men in Black, however,
happened several years before this, at the start of the
nineteen sixty In November of nineteen sixty one, Paul Miller,
along with three of his friends, was returning home in
North Dakota from a hunting trip. It was as they
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were making their way along the quiet highway that they
noticed a strange looking object overhead, which then proceeded to
land in a field by the roadside. To begin with,
the four friends thought they were seeing a small plane
make an emergency landing, and so they slowed their vehicle
down in case those involved required help. However, as they
approached close to where the object had come down, it
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simply disappeared. They continued on their way, each of them
rather perplexed about what they had seen and unable to
offer a rational explanation for it. Several moments later, though,
the object suddenly reappeared, and this time two humanoid figures
emerged from inside of it. Miller brought their vehicle to
a stop and stepped outside. He grabbed his gun and
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raised it and fired it at the two strange humanoids
appearing to wound one of them. Fearful though of the
bizarre scenario unfolding in front of them, Miller jumped back
into the car and they drove away as fast as
they could. It was only when they were approaching the
town of Minote that all the men realized that they
couldn't account for the last three hours. Realizing something out
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of the ordinary had taken place, the four men agreed
to keep the encounter to themselves and not report it.
The following day, however, things took an even stranger turn. Miller,
despite still feeling shaken by the bizarre events of the
previous evening, went to work at his Air Force office.
Not long after he arrived, though, three men in black
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suits arrived, asking to speak with them. Miller asked to
see their identification, which was something they declined to show
and stating only that they worked for the government. They
then said to him that they hoped that he was
telling the truth about the UFO that he witnessed, which
was something that froze Miller on the spot. He asked
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them how they knew about the incident, given that he
and none of the other witnesses had reported it. To
which the men simply stated that they had heard a report.
Miller later recalled that these men knew everything about him,
where he worked, everything, adding that even how they asked
questions about the sighting, it was cleared that they already
knew the answers, and as such would even know if
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he was lying. Miller was sufficiently shaken by the meeting,
so much so that it was several years before he
finally reported the incident to UFO investigators. A very similar
encounter occurred several years later in July of nineteen sixty
seven in Toledo, Ohio, when Robert Richardson was driving to
a meeting of the Aerial Phenomenal Research Organization also known
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as APRO. Richardson recalled that as he was rounding a
bend in the road, he was suddenly confronted with a
bizarre object that had suddenly appeared in front of him.
He didn't have time to fully apply the brakes, and
his car collided with the object. Although the impact was minimal, then,
to his utter shock, the object simply disappeared before his
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very eyes. He immediately reported the incident to local police,
who accompanied him back to the scene of the incident. However,
when they arrived, all they found were his tire marks
on the road where he had put on his brakes.
Richardson returned home, but the encounter swirled around in his mind,
so much so that he returned to the scene a
short time later, and this time he discovered a small
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lump of metal, which he thought could have come from
the mysterious object. So he picked up the piece of
metal and he took it home with them. He thought
this would be the end of the incident, but three
days later, at around eleven p m. A knock came
on Richardson's front door. When he answered it, he was
confronted with two men, both seemingly in their twenties and
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both dressed in dark suits. Although they didn't identify themselves,
they entered his home and began questioning him, making it
discreetly clear that they were privy to the knowledge that
was not available to the wider public. They stayed for
around ten minutes before leaving in a black Cadillac and
leaving him a card with a phone number on it.
When Richardson tried calling the number a short time later,
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he received a strange automatic message that the number was
not yet issued. Over the next week, Richardson began to
put the episodes out of his mind, believing that whatever
had taken place, the surreal events were now behind him. However,
one evening, again completely out of the blue, two different men,
again dressed in dark suits, arrived at his property. They
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spoke to him about the UFO he had seen, attempting
to convince him that he hadn't seen or hit anything unusual. However,
it was when they mentioned the piece of metal that
he had recovered that he was taken aback, as he
had only mentioned it to two close APRO colleagues. Richardson
then informed the men that the piece of metal had
been sent for analysis, to which the men responded, if
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you want your wife to stay as pretty as she is,
then you'd better get the metal back. Richardson wondered if
these mysterious visitors had obtained information by interrogating the APRO investigators,
through phone taps, or perhaps even by more paranormal means.
He also noticed that while one of the men spoke
perfect English, the other had a heavy, unidentifiable accent. He
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also said that there was something vaguely foreign about them.
Two decades later, one of the most chilling Men in
Black Encounters on Record unfolded in with Ville, Virginia. In
early July of nineteen eighty seven, Radio journalist Danny Gordon
was working for the country music radio station WYVE when
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he became aware of a UFO report from the Sheriff's department,
with several of the witnesses being police officers. Although he
had no real interest in such matters and he was
skeptical of the report, it was his own hometown, so
he decided to investigate the sighting further and subsequently presented
a light hearted piece on his show. To his surprise,
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as soon as the show aired, multiple listeners rang in
to report their own sightings. In fact, there were so
many reports from listeners that he had to set up
a program dedicated to such reports, and he described the
response as a lightning rod moment. The more reports from
listeners that came in, the more people reported their own encounters,
with descriptions tending to be of egg shaped objects and
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involving red, green, and white flashing lights around them. Although
Gordon believed that his listeners were definitely seeing something, he
was still certain that a rational explanation could be found.
The military, for example, saw fit to comment that what
people were actually witnessing was nothing more than military aerial
refueling missions, which was something that was rejected by many people. Gordon,
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looking to clarify this explanation, contacted an Air force general
at the Pentagon. However, he was told that such refueling
missions would only at an altitude of over thirteen thousand
feet and under no circumstances would they take place below this,
And as many of the reports were of objects at
an approximate altitude of around five thousand feet, the military
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explanation suddenly seemed to be on very shaky ground. At
this point, Gordon sought out the help of his friend
Roger Hall to assist with the investigations. They decided they
needed to see one of the objects for themselves, and
so they began traveling to locations where they had been reported.
They spent several hours in one such location, but didn't
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spot anything out of the normal, and so they decided
to drive toward the main town. And it was during
this very journey that both men spotted a very unusual
object coming across the horizon. Gordon brought their vehicle to
a stop so they could take in as much detail
as possible, describing the object as very large, with a
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dome shaped top and a strobe putting out multicolored lights
from the right side. All described the object as being
the size of two football fields, with three huge picture
windows at the back, and moving at an altitude of
around one thousand feet. Stranger still, Gordon reported seeing a
red or blan like object approached the larger craft and
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then dock with it. The pair were so shocked by
what they were seeing that they completely forgot to take
any photographs of the aerial anomaly, but when they returned
to the location the following evening, they managed to capture
several images, although the images themselves were blurred and only
captured part of the object. By this stage, Gordon realized
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they were investigating something of importance, and so he arranged
for a press conference to reach a wider audience. The
night before the press conference, however, things took an ominous
turn when Gordon received a rather unsettling phone call from
a mysterious individual, who of course declined to identify himself. Ultimately, though,
he was told that the CIA and federal government were
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very interested in the sightings that had been reported. In
with County and that he should leave it alone and
not mess in defense matters. Undeterred, Gordon went on ahead
with the press conference. However, when he returned home the
following evening after his regular radio show, he was shocked
to find that his home had been broken into. Despite
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the carnage and mess that he found his place in,
it didn't appear that anything had actually been taken. Although
he was now beginning to question just what he had
become involved in, and even his wife urged him to
pull back a little from his investigations. The reports, though,
continued to come in. Things settled down for several weeks,
but then Gordon, along with his wife and daughter, witnessed
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another of these mysterious aerial vehicles. They had spent the
day at a shopping center and were heading back to
their car when they noticed several children looking upward and
pointing at the sky. They turned their attention to where
the children were looking and were shocked to see four
different aircraft flying in four moreover, the objects, despite their size,
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moved in complete silence. Realizing he had his camera with him,
Gordon once more managed to capture a photograph. However, coincidentally
or not, the moment after he had done so, all
four of the objects vanished. He estimated that around two
hundred people witnessed this event alone, and by early October,
around three months after his initial show detailing such sightings,
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he had in excess of fifteen hundred reports in his files.
It wasn't long after this mass sighting that Gordon received
another chilling phone call at his home. This time, though,
the person claimed they were a retired military intelligence officer,
who told Gordon to record their conversation in case anything
happened to him. This former intelligence officer then stated that
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he too had investigated UFO sightings for years, and that
he had also received interrogating phone calls as well as
outright threats. Concerning though, were his claims that, as a
consequence for his actions, his son had been given leukemia,
from which he had sadly died. He then warned Gordon
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that they will try to hit you if they think
it's advisable for their purposes, and they would do this
with skin contact chemicals placed on his door handle or
his steering wheel. Moreover, he was warned that he would
almost certainly be unaware of such action until he became ill. Incidentally,
part of this conversation was aired on the television show
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Unsolved Mysteries several years later. Needless to say, Gordon was
shaken by what he was told and now began to
reconsider his investigations into such matters. Then several weeks later,
Gordon received a visit at his home from two men
who claim to be journalists who were investigating his work.
Both appeared to be professional and neatly dressed, and so
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Gordon agreed to be interviewed. The interview lasted around forty
five minutes, with one man speaking to Gordon and the
other casually walking around the house every now and then
taking a picture. Then the two men left, giving Gordon
a card with their contact details and promising to send
him a copy of the newspaper with the interview in it. Well,
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several days passed, and when no newspaper arrived at his property,
Gordon contacted the newspaper to ask if the article had appeared. However,
to his shock and growing uneasiness, he was told that
the newspaper had no journalists under the names that he
had given them. Moreover, they had no plans to run
an article on his investigation. This revelation caused Gordon to
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recall the interview, and it was then when he realized
just how much information the two men or whatever they were,
had actually obtained from their visit, not only what he
had willingly told them, but also from speaking with his
wife and daughter, as well as from all the photographs
they took. He then recalled the man who had been
wandering around his home during the interview, and when he
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went and checked his negatives from the shopping centers sighting,
he discovered that they were missing. These latest disturbing events
proved to be the breaking point for Gordon and his family,
with his wife moving out of the house with their
daughter terrified at who might call their home next. Although
Gordon didn't receive any more visits from mysterious gentlemen nor
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receive any further unsettling phone calls, he did suffer a
heart attack not long after, which he believed to have
been caused by all the stress. He too, eventually left
with County and stating several years later that if he
could go back in time, he would not report the
UFO story, and adding that it had caused too many
problems in his life. We should also contemplate if the
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two journalists were actually men in black, and it was
perhaps they who were behind the many problems, break INDs
and phone calls that Gordon received, and in this case
their tactics appeared to work. Before I continue, please consider
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Please stay tuned and I'll be right back after these
brief messages. It isn't just in the United States that
these encounters with men in black take place. There are
many such reports from Oliver Europe on record from hundreds
of years previously, and one of the most unsettling of
these men in black cases from outside the boundaries of
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the West, unfolded in Tokyo, Japan, and comes to us
from the research files of respected researcher and fellow mysterious
Uni Verse writer Brentce Swansar. The account features a ufoe
enthusiast named Nobu who had managed to capture several pieces
of footage of UFOs over central Tokyo. After working late
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one night at his office, Nobu was riding home on
the late night bus. To begin with, he was the
only passenger. However, after several stops, a strange, elderly gentleman
who was dressed entirely in black got on the bus
as well. Despite the bus being empty other than Nobu,
this man chose to sit in the seat directly opposite his,
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which was something that immediately unnerved him. Nobu faced forward,
not wanting to make any kind of eye contact with
the strange man, although he did occasionally steal a sideways
glance at him. When he did. However, he could see
that the man was looking out of his window, although
not at the moving terrain outside, but he was using
the window as a makeshift mirror to watch Nobu. Eventually,
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Nobu turned to face the man to take in as
much detail as possible. He could see the man's suit
was ill fitting and loose. While on his lap, he
had a black leather briefcase that he fidgeted with constantly.
The man also wore a strange black hat that was
a cross between a bowler hat and a fedora. Most
unsettling of although, was the man's unusually long, thin fingers,
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as well as his skin, which appeared to have streaks
on it, as if he was wearing some kind of
makeup that was running and so revealing a much paler
skin underneath. So unsettled was Nobu that he decided to
get off the bus a few stops early, not looking
back at the man once. As he stepped onto the
street and the bus pulled away. However, he turned to
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take a look back at the window seat where the
disturbing man had been sitting, to his utter shock, though
the man was no longer there and the bus was
now empty, he had somehow gotten off the bus unseen,
which seems unlikely whatever the truth may be, Though Nobu
was deeply disturbed and unsettled by his encounter. While the
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men in Black encounters that we have explored so far
have all taken place in the modern era, many accounts
stretch much further back in time, many of which are
documented in the book Case Book on the Men in
Black by Jim Keith. Keith points out, for example that
the moniker the black man was often synonymous with Satan
in the Middle Ages, although it is perfectly possible that
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these shadowy figures were the same figures we would recognize
as the men in black in our modern era. One
of the earliest accounts Keith Documents involved two shepherds in
France in fifteen twenty. Both shepherds eventually confessed to meeting
a tall dark man who told them that he was
the Devil's bondsman. This shadowy figure seemingly influenced the shepherds
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to do his bidding, and they went on to murder
five people before eating their victims. These were crimes for
which they were excit A similar incident occurred just over
half a century later, also in France, in fifteen seventy seven,
when a woman named Catherine Dorrie encountered a tall dark
man who convinced her to sacrifice her own child. Around
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a decade after that, in Great Britain, doctor John Fihon
was accused of plotting to kill the future King James
the First and was eventually put on trial for witchcraft
and for being a part of a witch's cabal. One
of those on trial with him Agnes Sampson stated during
the proceedings that they had regularly conversed with a strange,
mysterious man who was dressed in all black clothing and
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wore a black hat. This man, Samson offered, had a
face that was terrible, with glowing red eyes and claw
like hands. A particularly intriguing encounter unfolded in Salem, Massachusetts,
in sixteen ninety two, and adds another layer of nuance
and complexity to these mystifying encounters. According to this account,
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a West Indian slave claimed to have met a particularly
tall man with white hair in black clothing. It is
not entirely clear what the purpose of this meeting was
from the tall man's perspective, but the witness claimed that
he was accompanied by an equally tall creature who was
hairy all over, but who stood upright like a man.
Could this hairy man have been a bigfoot, a creature
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often seen in locations of UFO sightings, and which themselves
sometimes have a connection to the men in black We
will probably never know. One last thing to mention, here
are the apparent sightings of these men in black figures
during the times of plagues and the outbreaks of disease.
Perhaps the most infamous of these is the Black Death Records,
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of which, as limited as they are, document several strange
sightings of black cloaked men who were seen spraying some
kind of mist in wheat fields. Some witnesses even reported
seeing these strange, dark cloaked men mowing down wheat with
scythes which made a strange swooshing sound but did not
actually cut the wheat. Could these scythes actually have been
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some kind of technical device? And moreover, could these mysterious
cloaked men have given rise to claims of the grim Reaper,
who in turn could have been the men in black
of the medieval age. These are just a small handful
of these encounters with the tall dark men, usually dressed
in black clothing, and can be found across the centuries
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from the fifteen hundreds onward, and we can only imagine
how many others might have gone unrecorded in the centuries
before that. Were these strange individuals the men in black
of their age? And if so, perhaps we need to
readjust what the men in Black's agenda might be in
our modern world. And are these tall dark entities somehow
connected to the Black Eyed children, perhaps as a different
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manifestation from the same source. We should perhaps remind ourselves
of the words of Albert Bender, who, after his research
Church resulted in arguably one of the first books on
the UFO subject to gain traction in the wider public arena,
and afterwards received a visit from the Men in Black,
and shortly after his visit, Bender pulled back significantly from
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his research. He would, though, eventually state that the Men
in Black's true form was so monstrous that they used
their men in Black appearance to disguise themselves. If this
is true, then might we imagine that the black eyed
children might be another form of these strange figures. It
is interesting to note that those who have encountered the
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Men in Black, even in the modern era of the
two thousands, claim their attire and general appearance appear to
be locked in the late nineteen forties and nineteen fifties,
which happened to be when the modern UFO era began,
and many times the Black Eyed Kids are said to
wear clothing that also seems outdated, perhaps also from the
forties or fifties. With all of this in mind, the
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overwriting question is whether there is a connection between the
black guyed children and the men in black. If we
recall the twenty sixteen encounter with the black eyed children
in Vermont, for example, it appears the men who arrived
to collect the children were, for all intents and purposes,
the men in black. And it's also worth noting that
witnesses to both of these strange entities are always left
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confused and frightened, as well as having the notion, particularly
with the black eyed children, that they have to be
invited into a building before they can enter it, which
is reminiscent of vampire legends. Ultimately, if there is a
connection between these two mysterious figures, then we might ask
for what purpose do they interact with humanity? And while
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the answer to that question alludes us, one thing that
would appear to be certain is that these interactions are
not for humanity's benefit. I really wanted to share this
article with you, mainly because of the interesting reports it mentioned,
but honestly it did fall a bit short when trying
to connect the dots between b e ks and the MIBs.
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I do agree that there are many similarities in the
way these entities present themselves to the eye witnesses, including
their clothing, the ominous feeling they instill upon us, and
of course the way that they both seem to know
what we're thinking before we say it, and of course
the fact that they have allegedly been seen together. Like
most paranormal phenomena, though it's impossible to say one way
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or the other whether the two are somehow connected, and
although it might be interesting to ponder, I do think
the more important question is if the black eyed kids
and men in black are actually real? What are they aliens, demons,
or possibly something else altogether. Either way, whether they're real
or not, it's a good reminder that evil can take
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many forms, and while some may think that monsters only
dwell in dense forests or dark alleyways, it's important to
remember that sometimes it makes house calls. I really hope
you enjoyed tonight's episode, and if you've had an encounter
with either of these entities, I'd like to hear about
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your experience, and of course you can find all my
contact and support information in the show notes and at
Paranormal Mysteries podcast dot com. With that being said, I
hope you all have a wonderful rest of your evening,
and I'll be back in a few short days with
more tales of the unexplained, and until then, please remember
don't wait for the unknown to come to you. Get
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out there and find it.
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