Primary & Secondary Podcast
Our Mission is to provide the best, most accurate, & pertinent information to both professional & civilian in regards to firearms, training, tactics, gear, and mindset. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/primary-secondary-podcast--2585240/support.
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June 1, 2026 • 101 mins
Chris Bean, Dan Brady, and Matt Landfair discuss personal observations from their teaching experience and explain how to prioritize what matters when time is limited.
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May 23, 2026 • 78 mins
Sofia Espina discusses her journey from new gun owner to training with some of the best instructors working today to her fourth ECQC.
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April 20, 2026 • 94 mins
Kurt Weber explains the improvements he observed in weapons, equipment, and training in the U.S. Army since the 80's.
Host: Matt Landfair
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Host: Matt Landfair
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April 8, 2026 • 171 mins
We discuss what has changed in institutional firearms standards and training over the last 50 years. We no longer have Frank Hamers and Jelly Bryces among us. Has the training changed, or have the people?
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Jordan!
Doug Deaton
Mark Fricke
Frank Groth
David Simerly
Steve Shields
Warren Wilson
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Host: Matt Landfair
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Jordan!
Doug Deaton
Mark Fricke
Frank Groth
David Simerly
Steve Shields
Warren Wilson
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March 22, 2026 • 189 mins
Primary & Secondary ModCast
We discuss 41 and 45 special and Magnum!
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Darryl Bolke
Jason Cloessner
John “Big Drip” Harris.
Steve Shields
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We discuss 41 and 45 special and Magnum!
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Darryl Bolke
Jason Cloessner
John “Big Drip” Harris.
Steve Shields
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High Desert Cartridge- https://highdesertcartridge.com/
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March 14, 2026 • 184 mins
Primary & Secondary ModCast
We discuss the concept of priority of life within several applications in the use of force as well as emotional intelligence.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Chris Cypert
Doug Deaton
Erick Gelhaus
Michael V.
Claude Werner
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We discuss the concept of priority of life within several applications in the use of force as well as emotional intelligence.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Chris Cypert
Doug Deaton
Erick Gelhaus
Michael V.
Claude Werner
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February 28, 2026 • 179 mins
Primary & Secondary ModCast
We discuss reloading.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Scott Bodily
Mark Fricke
Gary Hughes
Duane Liptak
Steve Shields
Chauncey Wesner
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We discuss reloading.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Scott Bodily
Mark Fricke
Gary Hughes
Duane Liptak
Steve Shields
Chauncey Wesner
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January 5, 2026 • 121 mins
Primary & Secondary ModCast
Dan and Matt discuss low-light conditions, lights, and practices for defensive purposes.
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Dan and Matt discuss low-light conditions, lights, and practices for defensive purposes.
Episode sponsors:
Lucky Gunner - https://www.luckygunner.com/
Phlster - https://www.phlsterholsters.com/
Walther Arms - https://www.waltherarms.com/
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December 16, 2025 • 200 mins
Primary & Secondary ModCast.
The panel discusses how to interact with others who are sharing misinformation.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Chris Bean
Riley Bowman
Dan Brady
Larry Correia
Caleb Giddings
Brian Horton
Tom Kelley
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The panel discusses how to interact with others who are sharing misinformation.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Chris Bean
Riley Bowman
Dan Brady
Larry Correia
Caleb Giddings
Brian Horton
Tom Kelley
Episode sponsors:
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December 8, 2025 • 206 mins
Primary & Secondary ModCast - Plateaus. Originally recorded 02/17.
The panel discusses plateaus in training, learning, and skillsets. Sadly, Mike passed since this recording. I always found his input extremely valuable.
The Pat we are referring to during the discussion is the late Pat Rogers, with whom Mike worked with for many years.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Steve Fisher
Michael Hueser
Rick Labistre
Matt Meckley
Justin Smith
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The panel discusses plateaus in training, learning, and skillsets. Sadly, Mike passed since this recording. I always found his input extremely valuable.
The Pat we are referring to during the discussion is the late Pat Rogers, with whom Mike worked with for many years.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Steve Fisher
Michael Hueser
Rick Labistre
Matt Meckley
Justin Smith
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November 27, 2025 • 122 mins
Primary & Secondary ModCast
The panel discusses the recent shotgun training event - Thunderrstick Summit.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Darryl Bolke
Steve Fisher
Cody Stewart
Boone Walker
Episode sponsors:
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The panel discusses the recent shotgun training event - Thunderrstick Summit.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Darryl Bolke
Steve Fisher
Cody Stewart
Boone Walker
Episode sponsors:
Lucky Gunner - https://www.luckygunner.com/
Phlster - https://www.phlsterholsters.com/
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November 17, 2025 • 130 mins
Primary & Secondary ModCast
We talk about previous trends and where they are bringing us with the AR15.
This was recorded Nov 9, 2025 and YouTube killed it midstream.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Brass Facts
Ash Hess
Hop
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We talk about previous trends and where they are bringing us with the AR15.
This was recorded Nov 9, 2025 and YouTube killed it midstream.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Brass Facts
Ash Hess
Hop
Episode sponsors:
Lucky Gunner - https://www.luckygunner.com/
Phlster - https://www.phlsterholsters.com/
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November 11, 2025 • 81 mins
Primary & Secondary ModCast
Matt Landfair talks to Boone Walker of CoolFire Trainer about their products and applications.
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Walther Arms - https://www.waltherarms.com/
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Matt Landfair talks to Boone Walker of CoolFire Trainer about their products and applications.
Episode sponsors:
Lucky Gunner - https://www.luckygunner.com/
Phlster - https://www.phlsterholsters.com/
Walther Arms - https://www.waltherarms.com/
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November 4, 2025 • 215 mins
Primary & Secondary ModCast
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Darryl Bolke
Jon Canipe
Bryan Eastridge
David Simerly
Chauncey Wesner
Episode sponsors:
Lucky Gunner - https://www.luckygunner.com/
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Walther Arms - https://www.waltherarms.com/
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Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Darryl Bolke
Jon Canipe
Bryan Eastridge
David Simerly
Chauncey Wesner
Episode sponsors:
Lucky Gunner - https://www.luckygunner.com/
Phlster - https://www.phlsterholsters.com/
Walther Arms - https://www.waltherarms.com/
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October 28, 2025 • 161 mins
Primary & Secondary ModCast
Matt Landfair discusses VR training with Jon Canipe of ACE Virtual Shooting.
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Matt Landfair discusses VR training with Jon Canipe of ACE Virtual Shooting.
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Lucky Gunner - https://www.luckygunner.com/
Phlster - https://www.phlsterholsters.com/
Walther Arms - https://www.waltherarms.com/
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October 2, 2025 • 123 mins
Primary & Secondary ModCast
We discuss considerations for critical incidents.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Erick Gelhaus
Chuck Haggard
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We discuss considerations for critical incidents.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Erick Gelhaus
Chuck Haggard
Episode sponsors:
Lucky Gunner - https://www.luckygunner.com/
Phlster - https://www.phlsterholsters.com/
Walther Arms - https://www.waltherarms.com/
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September 5, 2025 • 181 mins
Primary & Secondary ModCast
We discuss those stupid big-bore magnum revolvers.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Jon Canipe
Jason Cloessner
Bryan Eastridge
Caleb Giddings
Episode sponsors:
Lucky Gunner - https://www.luckygunner.com/
Phlster - https://www.phlsterholsters.com/
Walther Arms - https://www.waltherarms.com/
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We discuss those stupid big-bore magnum revolvers.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Jon Canipe
Jason Cloessner
Bryan Eastridge
Caleb Giddings
Episode sponsors:
Lucky Gunner - https://www.luckygunner.com/
Phlster - https://www.phlsterholsters.com/
Walther Arms - https://www.waltherarms.com/
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August 29, 2025 • 152 mins
Primary & Secondary ModCast
We discuss misinformation and advertising disguised as valid ballistic information.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Mark Fricke
Chuck Haggard
Steve Shields
Lucky Gunner - https://www.luckygunner.com/
Phlster - https://www.phlsterholsters.com/
Walther Arms - https://www.waltherarms.com/
Our Patreon can be found here:
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We discuss misinformation and advertising disguised as valid ballistic information.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Mark Fricke
Chuck Haggard
Steve Shields
Lucky Gunner - https://www.luckygunner.com/
Phlster - https://www.phlsterholsters.com/
Walther Arms - https://www.waltherarms.com/
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August 22, 2025 • 110 mins
Primary & Secondary ModCast
We discuss the life and character of Super Dave Harrington.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Freddie Blish
Ben DeWalt
Matt Haught
Rob Haught
Kurt Weber
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We discuss the life and character of Super Dave Harrington.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Freddie Blish
Ben DeWalt
Matt Haught
Rob Haught
Kurt Weber
Episode sponsors:
Lucky Gunner - https://www.luckygunner.com/
Phlster - https://www.phlsterholsters.com/
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August 16, 2025 • 124 mins
Primary & Secondary ModCast
The panel discusses selecting the right ammunition for your task and lessons from zeroing.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Mike Canfield
Bryan Eastridge
Steve Fisher
Steve Shields
Episode sponsors:
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The panel discusses selecting the right ammunition for your task and lessons from zeroing.
Host: Matt Landfair
Panel:
Mike Canfield
Bryan Eastridge
Steve Fisher
Steve Shields
Episode sponsors:
Lucky Gunner - https://www.luckygunner.com/
Phlster - https://www.phlsterholsters.com/
Walther Arms - https://www.waltherarms.com/
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