September 4, 2026 • 4 mins
What if that tight feeling in your chest or knot in your stomach isn’t just anxiety—but a signal that your thoughts are taking you out of alignment? In this powerful Five-Minute Spirit Reboot, Laura Lee sits down with Zen Cryar DeBruck, founder of Fear Free Human and bestselling author of Internal Guidance System, to explore a fascinating approach to fearful thoughts, worry, and the difference between mental fear and genuine intuition.Zen shares the simple “I’m closed” technique she developed after decades of learning to decode the body’s signals. Discover how to recognize the physical sensations associated with fearful thinking, quiet the mental stories that keep anxiety spinning, and create space for clearer spiritual guidance and intuitive insight. From wondering why someone hasn’t texted you back to worrying about money at 3 a.m., this conversation offers a new perspective on the connection between your thoughts, nervous system, intuition, and inner guidance system.If you're searching for a psychic reading, intuitive reading, spirit messages, spiritual guidance, or tools for personal transformation, this episode invites you to tune inward and become more aware of what your own body may be communicating. Tune into spirit with Radio Medium Laura Lee.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Find insight, guidance, and answers. Tune into spirit with radio
medium Laura Lee. Hey, how would you like to learn
a hack to break through fearful thoughts and feelings of anxiety?
If you're like me, you need to stay tuned for
(00:23):
this five-minute spare reboot with my guest expert, who is
the founder of Fear Free Human. And she's also the
best-selling author of Internal Guidance System. Welcome back, Zen Cryer D.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Brook. Thank you for having me. I'm super excited to
be back. I got so many juicy things to share.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I can't wait. It's my pleasure to have you back
because I know you're all about the intuition. And I
want to know what your hack is to break through
fearful thoughts or anxiety ridden feelings that captivate us.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah. So anytime you have a lump in your throat,
that tight anxiety feeling like it's hard to breathe and
you're super uncomfortable in your chest or that roiling kind
of solid feeling in your solar plexus, that's actually guidance
from your internal guidance system that what you're thinking is
not true and not going to happen. And so the
hack is you simply say, I'm closed. That's a tight
(01:21):
feeling inside. That means what I'm thinking is not true
or not going to happen. And you'll feel it release.
You'll start feeling it ease up. And that's a more
true thought. And in that easing, you actually step aside
and you're able to think clearly to find out what
is true in that moment.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I love it. So tell me about your personal experience.
When did you discover this hack yourself?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It was in 1993. I had been through a very
traumatic childhood and I was sabotaging my life. I was
one of those, I'm going to take my toys and
go home anytime anybody hurt my feelings.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So I would quit jobs.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I would fire my roommate and then they wouldn't want
to live with me anymore. I did all these kinds
of things. And somebody gave me a little tape from
Abraham Hicks and somebody asked her a question. How do
I stay on my perfect blueprint, my life's most perfect life?
And she said, if you're tight in the center of
your body, it means your thoughts are taking you out
of alignment with your perfect life. And if your thoughts
are expanding you in the center of your body, it
means that your thoughts are carrying you into your perfect life.
(02:13):
And I grabbed onto that and started decoding which of
my thoughts were carrying me away from the life I
truly wanted. And I spent the next 30 something years
decoding it. And now I have 13 training programs. I
teach people all over the world, you know, anxiety, like
why haven't they texted me back? Did I do anything wrong?
Is this person mad at me? The real stuff that
drives us crazy and has fear and anxiety in us,
(02:36):
those things can be eliminated completely in our lives by
following this.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Okay, so what about fight and flight? Because there are
experts out there, Zen, that have said the fear is real,
go with it.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It's not true. I'm here to tell you, I know
I'm going against the grain. We have four responses, fight, flight,
freeze and fawn. And all of those are programmed into
us between the ages of zero and seven as ways
in which to react to mental fear. Mental fear and
physical fear are two different things. I call it physical fear,
tiger fear. Like you have to run across the freeway
to grab your dog, right? But the second that that
(03:11):
fear is over, your body returns to normal. Mental fear
is the stuff that wakes us up at three o'clock
in the morning. The conversations we have in our heads
that we can't escape from. The consistent worry about the
bill that we don't have the money for. It just
keeps ruminating over and over and over. And there are
programs in our mind that we can get rid of.
And when you get that opening, when you move from
that closing and you know how to move your thoughts
to an opening, your nervous system reprograms your mind and
(03:34):
those begin to go what they call neurally extinct. And
so the things that really drive you crazy, let's say
being angry at your husband because he just keeps putting
the dishes first thing in the morning in the sink
and you like your kitchen clean in the morning because
you're exhausted and you just want to have your coffee
in a clean kitchen and you're mad at him all
day for it. Those you can reprogram and escape and
they don't come back anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
So this really is our intuition that you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
It's different than intuition because intuition shows it differently for people.
The internal guidance system operates the exact same way in
every person. I can train anyone to do it. It's
a system and it works beautifully in intuition situations because
you can feel when your mind is creating a story
that's not true. Wonderful.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Thank you for sharing your wisdom. And I'm sure a
lot of people have something to glean from this. Where
can people find you, Ms. Zen Cryer DeBrook, the founder
of Fear Free Humans?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yes, so go to BeFearFreeNow, N-O-W dot com.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
If you like this episode and you want more, please subscribe.
Please rate it and share it so we can share
this with other people. Thank you for sharing your time
with us.
Find insight, guidance, and answers. Tune into spirit with radio
medium Laura Lee. Hey, how would you like to learn
a hack to break through fearful thoughts and feelings of anxiety?
If you're like me, you need to stay tuned for
(00:23):
this five-minute spare reboot with my guest expert, who is
the founder of Fear Free Human. And she's also the
best-selling author of Internal Guidance System. Welcome back, Zen Cryer D.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Brook. Thank you for having me. I'm super excited to
be back. I got so many juicy things to share.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I can't wait. It's my pleasure to have you back
because I know you're all about the intuition. And I
want to know what your hack is to break through
fearful thoughts or anxiety ridden feelings that captivate us.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah. So anytime you have a lump in your throat,
that tight anxiety feeling like it's hard to breathe and
you're super uncomfortable in your chest or that roiling kind
of solid feeling in your solar plexus, that's actually guidance
from your internal guidance system that what you're thinking is
not true and not going to happen. And so the
hack is you simply say, I'm closed. That's a tight
(01:21):
feeling inside. That means what I'm thinking is not true
or not going to happen. And you'll feel it release.
You'll start feeling it ease up. And that's a more
true thought. And in that easing, you actually step aside
and you're able to think clearly to find out what
is true in that moment.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I love it. So tell me about your personal experience.
When did you discover this hack yourself?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It was in 1993. I had been through a very
traumatic childhood and I was sabotaging my life. I was
one of those, I'm going to take my toys and
go home anytime anybody hurt my feelings.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So I would quit jobs.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I would fire my roommate and then they wouldn't want
to live with me anymore. I did all these kinds
of things. And somebody gave me a little tape from
Abraham Hicks and somebody asked her a question. How do
I stay on my perfect blueprint, my life's most perfect life?
And she said, if you're tight in the center of
your body, it means your thoughts are taking you out
of alignment with your perfect life. And if your thoughts
are expanding you in the center of your body, it
means that your thoughts are carrying you into your perfect life.
(02:13):
And I grabbed onto that and started decoding which of
my thoughts were carrying me away from the life I
truly wanted. And I spent the next 30 something years
decoding it. And now I have 13 training programs. I
teach people all over the world, you know, anxiety, like
why haven't they texted me back? Did I do anything wrong?
Is this person mad at me? The real stuff that
drives us crazy and has fear and anxiety in us,
(02:36):
those things can be eliminated completely in our lives by
following this.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Okay, so what about fight and flight? Because there are
experts out there, Zen, that have said the fear is real,
go with it.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It's not true. I'm here to tell you, I know
I'm going against the grain. We have four responses, fight, flight,
freeze and fawn. And all of those are programmed into
us between the ages of zero and seven as ways
in which to react to mental fear. Mental fear and
physical fear are two different things. I call it physical fear,
tiger fear. Like you have to run across the freeway
to grab your dog, right? But the second that that
(03:11):
fear is over, your body returns to normal. Mental fear
is the stuff that wakes us up at three o'clock
in the morning. The conversations we have in our heads
that we can't escape from. The consistent worry about the
bill that we don't have the money for. It just
keeps ruminating over and over and over. And there are
programs in our mind that we can get rid of.
And when you get that opening, when you move from
that closing and you know how to move your thoughts
to an opening, your nervous system reprograms your mind and
(03:34):
those begin to go what they call neurally extinct. And
so the things that really drive you crazy, let's say
being angry at your husband because he just keeps putting
the dishes first thing in the morning in the sink
and you like your kitchen clean in the morning because
you're exhausted and you just want to have your coffee
in a clean kitchen and you're mad at him all
day for it. Those you can reprogram and escape and
they don't come back anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
So this really is our intuition that you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
It's different than intuition because intuition shows it differently for people.
The internal guidance system operates the exact same way in
every person. I can train anyone to do it. It's
a system and it works beautifully in intuition situations because
you can feel when your mind is creating a story
that's not true. Wonderful.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Thank you for sharing your wisdom. And I'm sure a
lot of people have something to glean from this. Where
can people find you, Ms. Zen Cryer DeBrook, the founder
of Fear Free Humans?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yes, so go to BeFearFreeNow, N-O-W dot com.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
If you like this episode and you want more, please subscribe.
Please rate it and share it so we can share
this with other people. Thank you for sharing your time
with us.
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