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November 6, 2025 51 mins
Why did Karen Read spend her 2021 Christmas alone? Why was Karen Read and John O’Keefe’s relationship at Christmas 2021 painted as rosy by the prosecution. Also, did Karen Read stage the scene for the police before her first arrest? Was she tailoring a fantasy narrative to the evidence? And was she creating some new evidence of her own to support her story?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Just to be clear, you didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
We know who did it, Steve, we know, and we
know who spearheaded this cover up.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
You all know if John was beaten up and attacked
in that house.

Speaker 4 (00:12):
Who did it?

Speaker 1 (00:12):
We don't know.

Speaker 4 (00:13):
We don't know, We don't know, and it's not for
us to know.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Somebody other than Karen.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Somebody other than Karen is responsible for that, for the
killing of John. You are listening to the ROBERTA.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
Glass True Crime Report putting the true back in true crime.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
From New York City.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
ROBERTA. Glass is now on the record.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Oh okay, here we go. How is everybody? Are we
gonna have a rule call? Who's in the house? She
Fly nine? Here, Susan Hicks? Are you here? Darkseided? Nice

(01:30):
to see you, maestro again. Another shout out to Meistra,
Thank you for helping me fix my computer. So grateful,
working beautifully, Peter, thank you for moderating Monica. Hello, Hello, hello,
subject for tonight on the agenda. Hey, miss Lisa is

(01:54):
Karen Reid's heart candy Christmas twenty twenty one. So to
put this in context, this is the last Christmas Karen
Reid could have spent with John O'Keefe, and yet she
spent it alone at her home in Mansfield for how

(02:18):
long we don't know, but all will be revealed about
this very significant detail and one of the more curious
things about the trial. And I'm talking about the twenty

(02:38):
twenty four trials. When Paul O'Keefe gave his evidence, he
painted a picture where he talked about Christmas Eve dinner.
So to put this in context again, this is the
Christmas Eve where Karen Reid decided that Brendan Kane, John

(03:06):
O'Keefe's friend from childhood until Karen Reid murdered John so
Brent for forty years they were friends, his wife and
his daughter, that their Christmas Eve tradition would be no
more that year, and she used COVID and as an
excuse that she was somehow worried about COVID and Brendan

(03:31):
Kane had been to a hockey game with her in
November that same year, so weeks before, I mean, I
don't know if you want to call that weeks before.
It's always so hard to describe these things in accurate terms.
I guess that is weeks before. And Karen Rei did

(03:54):
not warn a mask hadn't shown any any fear of COVID.
I mean all the pictures I went over her holiday
at the height of COVID to the Free State what's
been called or what is frequently called the Free State

(04:15):
of Florida at that time, because it was really one
of the only states in America at that time that
was more lax on their COVID restrictions. So she had
organized a trip to Florida with John O'Keefe and the
kids to visit her friends Ingrid and Bill Curtis, among
other people. So why did Karen Reid leave John O'Keefe

(04:45):
to spend Christmas alone? So what that shows and I
will be talking about this in more detail in an
upcoming episode. But why it's so significant is because the
narrative at least the trial, especially a first trial and
the second trial. But really I'm really thinking back to

(05:06):
the first trial was that everything was great between Karen
Read and John O'Keefe until they went to Aruba over
the New Year, and that's when things really started to
go downhill. But things were already at a crisis point
in that Christmas before she murdered John O'Keeffe.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
So to.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Go to Paul O'Keeffe meeting, mister and missus reed, this
is the way Paul O'Keeffe planted or presented that Christmas Eve,

(05:56):
and there was never a mention of anything happening after
this christ Miss Eve. So already, when John O'Keeffe so
to go back to John O'Keeffe and Brendan Kane, Karen
had said that she was worried about COVID, and John
O'Keeffe when he communicated this to Brendan, he used his
sister Aaron as the reason that Aaron was worried about COVID.

(06:20):
Aaron could have not been less worried about not did
I just call her sister? I mean Paul O'Keefe's wife,
erin excuse me, said that it was Aaron who was
worried about COVID, saw this thing, this talking and thinking
thing is harder than it looks, was worried about COVID

(06:44):
and not Karen. So already John O'Keefe was protecting Karen
because had they known it was Karen who had the issue,
he didn't want them to be holding ill feelings towards Karen.
And this protect cocting of Karen by the o'keefes continued
on and and the witnesses in this case continued on

(07:07):
to trial one, and it continued on to trial two.
So they all went with this idea that everyone loved Karen.
No one said I was fooled by Karen. They did
like her, and now I see what a monster she
is attacking our family and bringing in a blogger to
harass witnesses at her request and direction, and accusing and

(07:35):
pointing fingers at everyone but herself for her own crime.
No one said on the stand I was fooled. No
one said said on the stand I liked her at
the time, But now I see what a horrible soulless

(07:57):
a woman totally lacking empathy. Karen Reid is what is selfish?
Cruel woman? Ge is no, No, they could have testified
that way, but they did it. Instead we got testimony
like this. Let's take a look at Paul O'Keeffe's testimony.

Speaker 6 (08:16):
As far as those positive feelings that you had in
relationship defended prior to January.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
So this is going to be again really low. Let
me see if I can just put up the thesecs
and maybe I can narrate it for those who are
listening on podcasts again the if anybody remembers the first trial,
the Adam Lalley was not miked and it was a
bit of a nightmare. Let me go back, Hold on

(08:44):
one second, please hold this is like a little.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
As far as those positive feelings that you've had in
relationship defended prior to January twenty ninth two, had you
expressed those either the defendant or any member of her family.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
So as far as those positive feelings that you had
towards Karen, so Adam Lally is eliciting this testimony. So
this was a strategy not just from John o'keef, but
sounds like a strategy from the prosecution and thinking, I

(09:22):
guess they're thinking it would be well, we wanted to
dispel this idea that Karen Reid was framed or everyone
was dying to pin a crime on Karen Reid. Well,
first of all, it's not the o'kee family is dying
to pin a crime, or it's not our ill feelings
that made us leap to conclusions and conclude Karen Reid

(09:43):
did this crime. But it's really ineffective because what their
testimony does is it helps Karen and it lets everyone
know that Karen Reid might not be the type of
person who would commit a crime like this. And this
is the kind of thoughts we have around these kind

(10:04):
of crimes. That women can't do these kind of crimes,
that people in positions such as Karen Reid, who are professors,
upwardly mobile, well quaffed people can't do these kind of crimes.
That murderers look a certain way, or that we can't
be fooled by people or don't wear it, or that

(10:25):
human beings don't have a mask, and that they always
present their authentic self. Hate that word, that phrase, authentic self.
I don't know what a better way to describe it.
Maybe their true self to the world. So, I mean,
we have this idea that like, oh, well, if I
liked her at first, I can't be fooled the person

(10:48):
I met and liked. That's the real person, not an
act And as we know, Karen Reid is a consummate actress.
And we see this in so many cases that I
talk about, where these killers are great actors and can
be very convincing.

Speaker 7 (11:07):
Yes, So, Christmas Eve of twenty in twenty twenty one,
it was the first time I met her parents, like
my brother hosted Christmas Eve.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Okay, I was making sure it's sharing my screen. So
he's like, what is this formality here? Yes, Christmas Eve?
And I get it's I totally get that it's awkward
giving this kind of testimony, but it seems to be
putting on some errors here.

Speaker 7 (11:42):
Leave at his house, I met mister and Missus Reed.
I offered to help miss Reid and Missus Reed carry
some things in from her car, And as we were
walking to the car, I said, you know, I just
want to I'll tell you what I think your daughter
is great. I think very appreciative of what she's done

(12:09):
for the kids and helping my brother.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
So I mean one of the things, sorry, I didn't
realize I was needed. One of the things that he
was talking about there, or you could have been could
have been construed that he was talking about there is
that he was George could have picked up on was
that he had good manners, that they were thankful for

(13:44):
Karen Reid, that they had no one had ill intent
towards her, and they were thankful for her contribution towards
raising the children. But when you look at the children's
testimony and you look at Karen Reid's text messages around
the children. Karen Reid says that the children made things
toxic between her and John. I believe Cayley was a

(14:06):
constant source of argument between Karen Reid and John. Karen
Reid when she's talking to Brian Higgins, when she asked
him if he has kids, she's so relieved he doesn't
have kids. And she seems to have a really ill
feelings towards children from this experience. So why did Adam

(14:27):
Leley think this was important? It really negates and undermines
Cally and Patrick's what we know of Kally and Patrick's testimony,
Patrick who said that Karen Reid gave him the cult
of the silent treatment, and Kelly who said in the

(14:48):
second trial that there was a kind of coldness that
she would that she ran hot and cold. So what
it You know, it may have been helpful to Paul
personally to kind of show that the o'keefes had good

(15:11):
manners or we're thankful, but when the prosecution is trying
to paint a picture of what was going on, realistically,
it's not the truth. And when you put things out
that aren't the truth, it undercuts the prosecution's theory. Well,

(15:32):
maybe the prosecution isn't presenting the truth when it comes
to the car data or any of the other really
important evidence. And all of this is important, All of
the testimony is important. That shows that John was in
a DV relationship. Why you know, I've been screaming about
this since trial one, since before trial one, that they

(15:54):
could have gone with a DV expert talked about coercive control,
talked about how women often who are coercively controlling their
partner or psychologically abusing their partner another way to put it,

(16:15):
will accuse their partner of cheating. It's a way to
keep them on the back foot. It's a common tactic
of abusers. Instead, they went with this nonsense jealousy narrative
in trial one and Trial two. It wasn't true, it
may have not felt true to the jurors, and then

(16:35):
again undermining the prosecution's case. If the civil lawyers go
with this same stupid Karen Reid was so jealous narrative,
they're going to have the same results that the Commonwealth
had in these two trials, which is no positive results

(16:59):
once a draw. Well, and really the second trial was
a massive loss, thanks Wesley loves October Best. Thanks for
gifting ten memberships. Enjoy them, guys, very generous of you.
I appreciate it so other Really, if you guys aren't

(17:23):
following Innocence Fraud Watch, you are missing some awesome content.
She is on fire lately with her blogs. So moving
into something that she caught, which I think is really
interesting compelling is Karen Reid's arrest. So her first arrest

(17:46):
on the first of February two thousand and two. Karen
Reids sitting at home in the dark. She's well quaffed.
She's talking to David Yanetti on the phone. Karen Reid
here caught in another lie, said that she was talking

(18:06):
to her best friend on the phone, when it's clearly
David Yanetti. Unless David Yanetti has suddenly become her best friend,
don't think. So, she's caught in a lie and that one.
But when the police come, there is a ladder on
her stairs. So let me talk about this ladder. So

(18:32):
this is from Innocent FraudWatch blog. Psychopathic murderer Karen Reid
and her incessant gas lighting. She is a major gas lighter,
including John O'Keeffe's alleged ladder his alleged bomp to the head.
So Karen Reid says that this is John O'Keeffe's ladder

(18:53):
left on her stare. I mean this said, this is
his ladder that he brought over. But is it really?

Speaker 8 (18:59):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Her ladder is alleged bumped to the head in nineteen
ninety two TV quote unquote. So sometime in twenty twenty,
Julie Miller, the innocence fraudster, in her Vanity Fair loved

(19:20):
letter piece to Karen Reid, writes of Karen Reid and
her alleged security guard, the Olympics are on TV, but
nobody's paying attention. Did you buy that TV in nineteen
ninety two? Jokes? The security guard. Actually John hung this,
so I got in an early twenty and twenty. He

(19:43):
was very good about doing projects and he was handy, unquote,
said Reid. So on the twenty seventh, approximately, this is
what Karen Reid puts this. This alleged hanging of a
chandelier in her stairwell done by John O'Keefe. So before

(20:05):
off Duo Deep Boss Office police officer, John O'Keeffe was
murdered by Karen Reid, innocent fraud Watch Rights. He also
hung a chandelier in the stairwell at her home in Mansfield.
Karen Reid told Terry dun Murror, the director of Unsolved Productions, Inc.

(20:27):
So that's that repulsively titled a body in the snow,
meaning John O'Keeffe is just a body in the snow,
doesn't even need a name of TB show. A few
days before he died, John hung a chandelier in my

(20:49):
house in my stairwell, which is I've hung chandeliers in
my house, but not in the stairwell. And John brought
his ladder so and she took a picture of it.
We're going to talk about that in a second. So
he brought his ladder and rolled up his sleeves, and
I was cooking for him and to thank him. So

(21:09):
there's the what I call the psycho stutter. I don't know,
psychopaths seemed to, especially around lies, seemed to do this
kind of stutter thing. So I was cooking for him
and to thank him for hanging the chandelier. So why
would you take a picture of this? I mean, I

(21:30):
can see you taking a picture of like John, like
actually hanging the chandelier. John pointing to the chandelier that
he just hung. But why this picture? Why was Karen
Reid And I'd love to hear your thoughts on this
taking this picture of John O'Keefe in her stairwell, So

(21:51):
when and just to put this in context. On January
twenty eight, twenty twenty two, according to Hang Brennan trooper
Nicholas Garino, Karen Reid had strangely called John O'Keefe at
two sixteen and ten seconds am on January twenty eighth.

(22:17):
So if he was hanging the chandelier, was there a
fight or did she come to is Was there a
fight on the phone? Did she come to his house
in the early morning hours and sleep over and then

(22:38):
take Cayley to the to school that morning and possibly
dunkin Donuts? I don't know what to think of that
dunkin Donuts story. I'd like some more information on it
that allegedly caused so much tension among other things going on,

(23:03):
there's also some really compelling stuff in their text messages
that paints a picture of what might have been going
on that morning. But why to sixteen ten am was
that Karen Reid saying I'm on my way to your house.
Why and where exactly was Karen Reid when she made
this early morning call? Listened to Hank Brennan and Trooper

(23:24):
Gerno below, So let's stick a listen together.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Were you shared with us that you downloaded the extraction
of the phones that you identified and you made reports
based on specific identified features, for example, a conversation between
two people.

Speaker 9 (23:44):
Yeah, so I didn't do the extraction of Gen's phone,
but I made those reports with the PDFs from the
data extraction.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Relative to mister O'Keefe and the defendants phones, you created
a document that provided us the phone calls between them
on January twenty nine.

Speaker 9 (24:01):
Yes, that's correct.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
And separately, you also provided a document that included all
of the chats a text messages between John O'Keefe and
the defendant on January twenty nine, twenty twenty two.

Speaker 9 (24:12):
Yes, it also included the twenty eighth thank you.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
And in that compilation, did you put together or do
you create or review a PowerPoint of those? Yes? They did,
And what was the point of that?

Speaker 9 (24:26):
Just to show the texts and calls in a chronological order,
because that way you're not looking at two different documents
trying to compare and contrast the calls to text messages
when each is coming in And did.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
You begin that PowerPoint presentation with a call at two
sixteen ten on January twenty eight, twenty twenty two.

Speaker 9 (24:47):
Yes, that's correct.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
An other additional chats to text messages earlier that morning.

Speaker 9 (24:51):
Yes, there is a handful starting around nine forty five.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Am, okay, me get to that before it starts killing
us with a raising. It's gonna kill us with thats okay,
here we go, so incessant gaslighting. So what was that called?
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on that call.

(25:15):
What was that call about so early? I'm going to
call my incredibly overworked police officer boyfriend handling, you know,
raising two traumatized kids at two sixteen ten? What was
that call about? Something Karen Reid has got? You know?

(25:39):
I mean, what we're really talking about in this episode
is or I'm talking about in this episode is things
that Karen Reid has purposely gaslet or exited ghosted out
of her narrative. And those tend to be the important things.

(26:03):
So the Richie the Plumber story, which shows in to
my eye, a whole pattern of abuse, gaslighting, lying in
her pathological line, but incessant gaslighting. So around four and

(26:27):
a half hours before, she chose to intentionally reverse into
John O'Keefe with her car in around twenty minutes after
allegedly she was waiting on her Mansfield plumber Richie. Anybody
still call out to Richie the plumber? Does he exist? Richie?

(26:51):
If you exist, get in touch with me. Still crickets
on that front, Karen Reid again chose to gaslight John
O'Keefe by sending him the following message at seven forty
eighth one pm. I've always told you, she's telling him.
I've always told you. I will not put either of
you out of your way the way everyone else in

(27:12):
your life does. But I will ask you to put
in my chandelier in the stairwell, bring over your ladder
while you're at it. If that's what happened, maybe it
was Karen Reid's ladder. Could there be a reason why
she said it was his ladder not hers? I mean

(27:34):
I can see two reasons. One would be some kind
of liability if she was going that direction with starting
some kind of defense. Or another reason is that John
cared for me so much that he even brought his
ladder over. It's not heavy, but it's awkward, and he

(27:57):
was so committed to me that he brought over his ladder.
I don't know, let me know what you think a
possible reason could be. In reality, the evidence suggests Karen
regularly put John O'Keefe out of his way, and this
behavior appears to have begun very early on in the
relationship of the story of the hanging of the TV

(28:19):
in the early twenty twenty is true. So Wesley loves
october Fest, says ROBERTA for president. Oh my, I really
don't want to be president. No, don't. I don't want
to be president of anything. Thank you, though I appreciate
I appreciate the confidence. Leslie. Okay, back to this when

(28:49):
Massachusetts State So this is where it gets again really compelling.
This was a small part of the twenty twenty four trial.
When Massachusetts State Police Trooper Proctor and Sergeant Buchanic interviewed

(29:09):
Karen Reid at her parents' house in North Dyton on
January twenty ninth, she made up a story that John
had bumped his heads two nights earlier. Sergeant Buchannant testified
she asked to provide some explanation how mister O'Keeffe had

(29:29):
sustained those injuries that he had, and we asked about
the injuries that mister O'Keeffe had earned that he had
been displaying, and whether or not he had those injuries
the night prior at either McCarthy's or the Waterfall, to
which the defendant stated she didn't see any injuries on him,
but that she provided statements saying that mister O'Keeffe bumped

(29:53):
his head to nights prior and asked her about it,
which seemed kind of strange. Years Karen Reid was thinking
to blame John O'Keeffe's head urgery on a make believe
bumped to the head that she was likely going to
suggest occurred when he had hung her chandelier in the

(30:13):
stairway of her home or Mansrilla Home, two nights prior.
Julie Miller also wrote in her October thirtieth tale for
Vanity Fair, I asked if she gets sentimental about stuff
that he had bought or did in the house I
was at the beginning, read said, was the latter stage.

(30:37):
If Karen Reid was sentimental about stuff that John o'keeff
did in the house. Why was his alleged ladder still
in her stairwell when Massachusetts State police arrived to her
arrest on February first, So that's a still image of it?
Or and wouldn't have John O'Keefe carried the at her

(31:00):
out of Karen Reid's way once he had finished hanging
her chandelier. So this is a really odd thing that
on February first, days later when the police come and
she's dressed, you know, dressed for camera. Ready, let's put
it that way. So prepared for this arrest. With David

(31:22):
Yanetti on the phone, why is the ladder there? So
was this her? Did she stage this for the police?

Speaker 10 (31:34):
So was she.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Staging some kind of and you got to ask she'd
already set up this head bump thing and she had
taken an odd picture. Okay, let me stepping.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
In the Okay, Uh, did everybody hear David trail mix?

Speaker 3 (32:21):
David I got to hang up the phone and listen
to a clip of Karen from the Entertainment or Murdertainment
TV show A Body in the snow Here.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
A few days before he died, John pung a chandelier
in my house and my stairwell, which is I've hung
chandeliers in my house, but not in the stairwell. And
John brought his ladder and rolled the leaves up, and
I was cooking for him and to thank him for
hanging the chandelier.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
And there's the weirdo number one biggest thing. Weirdo stutter,
Why is she holding on her ear lobe? For dear life?
And that shot sod? So what do you think, guys
think about this hole? I think it see let's just

(33:14):
take a look at this before. Did everybody see the
ladder there and catch up with you? Teter says, probably
her tell she's doing a I don't know any kind
of ear lob pole makes pole makes me think of

(33:37):
Carol Burnett of Forensic. I think I think he did
think she was Okay, you're talking to someone else, anybody
else very astute to spot it? Yeah, innocent Trod doesn't

(33:58):
watch doesn't mean miss much. And if you're not following
her blogs, she's once again really putting out some excellente blogs.
She's been really on fire lately, right, I mean, you know,

(34:21):
I mean the more I look at this case, the
more I think was this a case? Of really premeditative murder.
Was she's thinking about these kind of things beforehand. I mean,
why take that picture? I mean it's just such an
odd So what we know about Karen Reid is we

(34:44):
know that Karen Reid also, in her coercive control of
John o'keef or her psychological abuse of John O'Keefe, was
demanding that John o'keef send her pictures. Let me see
if I can bring that up. Hold on my second,
Please hold. I didn't think i'd be talking about this
particular thing. But since I have it, let me make

(35:09):
it on my channel. And I think I have it
in a short.

Speaker 10 (35:17):
To say, did I not make it? Did I not

(35:46):
make it? Hold on my second, so he demanded, Actually,
I'll just go to my interview.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Find that she just demanded that Brendan Caine. When Brendan
Kane was with John O'Keeffe on watching the ballgame opening day,
she demanded that John o'keef send a picture to prove
to Karen where he was. And you can also see

(36:26):
that in the last text messages. Another thing found by
Innocent froad Watch that Karen read on John o'keeff's last
day alive, that the descending Karen read a picture of
himself with his father to prove to Karen read again
where he was. I mean, she had a NonStop surveillance

(36:48):
going on her victim, John O'Keefe. And this should have
been the narrative, because it's the true narrative, not I
think this is it?

Speaker 1 (37:04):
This?

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Okay, one second, Actually, I'm gonna I'm gonna take a
quick break and I'm gonna queue up. Let me see. Actually,
if I can find it, if I can do it
on the fly and we don't have to take a break,
would be terrific. Hold on one second. If you guys
can have a little bit of patience, I can find

(37:28):
it really fast. Let me see. Okay, here we go.

(38:05):
I'm on the wrong interview. Okay, here we go. Thank
you for your patience with a I just didn't think
i'd be talking about this particular thing. But I do
want to prove my prove my uh prove my case
on this so you can see what I'm talking about here.

(39:22):
All right, I'm gonna take a break. I'll be back
with you guys in a second. Thanks for your patience,

(39:52):
my check.

Speaker 8 (39:53):
Roberta strides through the static case True Crime got them.
Why the shadows later placed forruds to fold when a
spotlin themes, fact focused, queen busting, propaganda schemes, last shadow
lives that goes through the streets, standing for victims, giving
voice their beats, and why c polls truth sharp as
night with burd exposing She's the anti fried Light, partast warrior,

(40:27):
dissecting Satan's defense, twisted innocence, claims, breaking pretense, Gottham's truth
seeker cuts clean with the blade facts in the forefront,
No justice gets swaying cold facts drip heavy, real talk,
gun furls, cracking cases open like oysters with pearls, innocence, gimmicks,
crumble the dust in the wind for victims, her creed

(40:48):
justice till the end, headphones blazing, She drops heavy artillery.
Now we're just twisted meat, blunt objects, civility. Roberta God
receipts that unraveled, deploy exposing the lies these frauds does

(41:11):
deploy glass shot his lies, that goes through the streets,
standing for victims, giving voice, stand beats, and was washing
post through shop this night. Roberta exposes She's the anti
fraud Light.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Okay, I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to return
back to this another day. To me, it seems so clear.
I may be way out of my but essentially the
famous picture that you always see. Do I even have
a copy of it here? I used to probably, yeah,
here it is this picture. So this picture was taken,

(42:14):
and it's a lovely picture, but the whole reason that
it was taken was for Karen to show that where
for John o'keep to show Karen. They demanded to show
see proof of where he was. So we know that
that's Karen Read's personality to take these pictures and make

(42:39):
her own. You know, she likes photographic evidence, is what
I'm saying. So what was the point of this picture?
Let me share my screen again, So when we look
at this blog and we go up, I mean, what

(43:02):
is the point of this picture? No? I mean you
know what I mean? Would you take a picture like this?
Am I making too much of it? Let me know?
That is what I have I think for today. But

(43:23):
I mean, I think, really what I want to conclude
with is why didn't why wasn't the prosecution talking about
this narrative that things had really reached a crisis point

(43:48):
by Christmas? I mean, things are really really going downhill
at Christmas? Why why did they go with this kind
of odd Why did they think this would be helpful,
this kind of I mean, it's almost like a part
of Karen Reid's defense, making them all witnesses for Karen Reid.

(44:09):
Karen Reid was great. We loved her. We told everyone
how much we loved her. I mean, did they think
that they would get caught in cross examination? Did you
tell the say yeah, and boy was I fooled? That's
what you say then? I mean, who was helping these
witnesses ah testify? Who thought that was a good idea?

(44:37):
And to go with this ridiculous Karen Reid is so
jealous narrative is ridiculous. This is not about jealousy. This
is about abuse. And it's a comic tactic for abusers
to accuse someone of cheating, not that they care, just

(44:58):
to get you on the back foot anytime you were
accused of something. First of all, the spotlight is off
the abuser's behavior and onto your behavior, and you have
to defend your behavior in the and you're in a

(45:18):
weaker position, You're in a submissive kind of weaker position,
having to defend yourself just to alligate totally untrue allegations. Clearly,
Karen Reid by the time that they returned back from Aruba,
within a week, she was texting Brian Higgins. So what

(45:40):
did she get back on the fifth or the sixth
of January? And on the twelfth of January, she's texting
Brian Higgins, she's making contact with him. So this and
according to Cayley's testimony, I think that really important piece

(46:03):
of evidence that never gets talked about, certainly never gets
talked about by the Free Karen readers. So that Cayley
said that John O'Keeffe had asked Karen Reid to move
out and to move not move out, and you know,
get out is a better way to put it. Get

(46:24):
out of the house. And she wouldn't leave. It wasn't
her home. She was there, certainly a lot, but it
wasn't her home. Was his home. She had her home.
And this is another thing that gets glossed over and misrepresented,
the idea that Karen Reid and and this is Hardwatch

(46:46):
has done some good blogs on this, or at least
one good blog, this idea that Karen Reid returned home
after reversing into John o'keeff. She didn't return home. She
invades John O'Keeffe's home. There wasn't enough to mortally injure

(47:09):
John O'Keefe by reversing into him it speeds of twenty
four hours, twenty four miles per hour with her foot
seventy five percent on the gas pedal. She needed to
further insult him by and invade his boundaries by breaking

(47:34):
into his home uninvited and unwanted. I mean, there was
no one there to invite her or want her because
she had already murdered. The owner of the home or
one of the owners of the home believe it's jointly
owned by Caley and Patrick. No one wanted her there.

(47:57):
And what she did there, she plotted how she was
going to get away with her murder. Think about that.
This is the true narrative of this case. And why
is it? Why is it being buried? Why is it
being buried? All right, all right, I'm that's what I

(48:30):
have for today. Guys. Please hit the thumbs up on
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(48:54):
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at sex.

Speaker 5 (49:28):
My Check.

Speaker 8 (49:29):
Roberta strides through the static case True Crime Gotham, where
the shadows play their place, frauds to fold when a
spotlight beams, fact focus, queen busting, propaganda schemes, glass shadow
lies that goes through the streets, standing for victims, giving voice,
the meats and y c post truth. Sharpest Night refer
to exposing She's the antsy frowd Light partast Warrior, dissecting

(50:04):
Satan's defense, twisted innocence claims, breaking pretense, got Them's truth
Seeker cuts clean with the blade facts in the forefront,
no justice gets swayed. Cold facts drip heavy real salt,
gun furls, cracking cases open like oysters with pearls innocence, gimmicks,
crumpled the dust in the wind for victims, her creed,
justice till the end. Headphones blazing, she drops heavy artillery.

(50:39):
Now it just twisted meat, blunt objects. Civility, Roberta God
receipts that unraveled, deploy exposing the lies, these frauds. That's
deploy glass shot, Lies that goes through the streets, standing
for victims given voice, There meats and why se post
truth sharpest knight Roberta exposes she's the anti fraud lighting
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