NXIVM's Hidden Crimes Exposed!

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Speaker 3 (01:35):
Oh okay, here we go. How is everybody happy Sunday?
Hello Dark Side of the Moon, Hello tater Bug, Hello Maestro,
Hello Kitties in nineteen ninety three. Hello the Great Tony
Natalia is in the chat. Hello Patricia Burns, Hello kath

(02:00):
Don let me refresh. We're all here. So I wanted
to just go over some of the facts of the
Nexium case today because it's being rewritten as it always

(02:23):
has since, really since the end of Keith Rinari's trial,
actually all through Keith Rnai's trial and afterwards by the
VOW and now with this new podcast of Alison Max
called Alison Max After Life After Nexium produced by the CBC,

(02:46):
we have a rewriting of the crimes of Nexium. So
today I'm going to go through the actual an actual
legal document describing what were the actual crimes of Nexium,
many of them hidden from the public, and I think

(03:15):
you'll get a better sense as to why Keith Rnari
was given a one hundred and twenty year sentence. That's right,
you heard that correctly, a one hundred and twenty year
sentence in prison, of which he's serving now. So right
now you're looking at for those who are watching with me,

(03:37):
now you're looking at the Nexium defends from the top
left Kathy Russell, the bookkeeper, Keith Rnari in the middle,
top Nancy Salzman, the number two in Nexium, who really
built the curriculum with Keith Ranari. Bottom left is Allison

(04:00):
BacT Middle bottom middle Nancy Salzman's daughter Laurence Salsman, and
the Seagram's heiress. Bottom right Claire Bromfman, who along with
her sister Sarah Bromfman, funded the cult to the tune
of multi millions of dollars tens of millions of dollars.

(04:27):
And of course Claire Broffman ended up serving aside from
Keith Rinari, the longest sentence and eighty one month sentence.
I mean, she didn't serve all of it, but she
was given an eighty one month sentence way beyond what
her plea deal recommended, with the recommended sentence that came
along with her plea deal. So starting with Nancy Salisman,

(04:50):
This is a really important point. Before Keith Rinari ever
went to trial, everyone pled out, starting with the number two,
Nancy Salisman, who pled out before the superseding indictment even
came down. Nancy Salesman pled out on let me see

(05:11):
if I can get this correctly on March twelfth, nineteen,
and she pled guilty to racketeering conspiracy, also altering documents
in a trial. I'll court documents and we'll get into

(05:31):
that today. But and then everyone else just pled out,
one by one. Lauren Salsman next on March twenty fifth,
twenty nineteen, Alison Mack on April eighth, twenty nineteen, and
then Kathy Russell and Claire Bromfan on April nineteen, twenty nineteen,

(05:54):
so the leaving only one. After that, there was only
one to face trial. And this is a trial that
I attended much of, but more than that, I tended
every one of the pre trial hearings in this case,

(06:15):
so including their plea hearings. Although Alison Mack and Laurence
Salzman pled out really in secret, it was done so
quickly and so secretively that just really wasn't open to
a public By the time I heard about it they'd

(06:37):
already pled out, and I think most of the public
it was the same way. So let's get into this document.
So the way that it's being portrayed, or was portrayed
in the VOW was it that was like this really
powerful personal growth movement almost instead of a criminal enterpries

(07:00):
led by a criminal that went after their perceived enemies
with a kind of cruelty, unrel unjust just relentless, like
unrelenting move forward towards anyone who spoke out about them.

(07:24):
They sued them into some mission and just had them
just holding on to their sanity by the thinnest of threads.
The punishment was for speaking out against Nexium and for
people like Tony Natali who suffered at the hands of
Nexium and Rick Ross. And I'm not talking about the

(07:45):
rapper Rick Ross. I'm talking about, of course, the og
and really I think the premiere expert in Colts Rick Ross.
They were sued by Nexium and and had to defend
themselves to their you know, at their own expense for years.

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So we're going to get into all of that. The
way that the next him got their enemy's financial documents,
including Edgar Broffman Claire Broffman's father. They had access to
his emails, Lawyers who had once been involved in the

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cult who had left, they had their financial documents in
addition to all the coercion that went on with Dos.
And you'll see in this that it's amazing to me
when you actually look at the stories that came out
of this cult, how is every single woman the assignment

(08:52):
is always to seduce. Keith Raneri, the cult leader who
supposedly had a two hundred and forty IQ, he was
really I think it probably he has a pretty average IQ.
That's debatable. Some former devotetes still insist that he's brilliant.
I've never seen any hand of this brilliance. I think

(09:16):
he's cunning and calculating in the way that psychopaths often are.
But I haven't seen any of this brilliance from Keith Rinari.
This gobbly cookie talking points. So this document is from

(09:39):
Keith Ornary sentencing. So in twenty eighteen and nineteen, Keith
Rnari and five co defendants were indicted for racketeering, racketeering, conspiracy,
and related crimes including trafficking, forced labor, alien smuggling, identity theft,
and extortion. On June nineteenth, two, twenty nineteen, Keith Roarnari

(10:03):
was convicted on all seven counts and all eleven racketeering
acts submitted to the jury. So the jury was like,
you're guilty of everything. They were like, Ranieri's conviction falls

(10:24):
into the following categories of a legal conduct. But before
I say that, I just want to say something about
the jury. In the beginning, when I would look at
the jury, you really couldn't tell which way they were going.
But by the end of the trial, every time Keith
Ranary's lawyer got up, they just looked like they were
smelling a bad smell. You knew it was not going

(10:47):
to be a good verdict for Keith Rnary by the
end of his trial. If you observed the jury, they
had had it with Keith Nay and Nexium by the
end of the trial. So, so this is the exploitation
of Camilla Jane Doe number two, aliens smuggling, and visa fraud.

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The trafficking of this is Camilla's sister, Daniella Jane Doe
number four. So this is the family from Mexico that
if you've been following my most recent Nexium podcast, I've
been talking about them in relation to Alison Mack and
her crimes, trafficking of and of course Laurence Salzman and

(11:34):
her crimes as well, so the trafficking of Daniella Jane
Doe number four for labor and services. Unlawful surveillance of
individuals believed to be enemies of Nexium and Ranieri. This
has become a lost, lost part of Nexium history. How

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nex surveiled individuals believed to be enemies Ofium or RNERI.
Obstruction of justice, trafficking, wire fraud, and extortion related to
dos so DOS is the secret sorority inside Nexium. Dos
means it's a Latin meaning. It's a Latin phrase for

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meaning dominant over submissive identity. Theft related to tax evasion,
and the evidence presented a trial demonstrated that for over
a decade Rnieri led a criminal enterprise. So the word
cult was not used in court. Often it came came

(12:43):
up as far as my memory is, as far as
Mark Vicente, who's the filmmaker who got high up into Nexium,
who left one cult and then went into Nexium. He
directed the what the bleep do we Know? Documentary and

(13:03):
then got recruited into Nexium. He talked about how Keith
Rnari wanted to expose cult as a meaningless word by
making a documentary on a family and paying them a
million dollars and presenting this family as a cult, and
then exposing at the end of their documentary that it

(13:26):
was just a family. That was one of Keith Raneri's ideas.
But cult really doesn't have any meaning legally in our
legal system. It's not illegal to be involved in a cult,
and it's certainly not illegal to start one. It's how so,
it's not that Nexium was a cult, it's that they

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acted criminally and criminally over decades. So the evidence presented
a trial demonstrated that for over a decade led a
criminal enterprise and relied on an inner circle of individuals
to carry out his orders. Ranieri and his co conspirators
recruited individuals into various purported self help organizations that Rneri founded,

(14:16):
including Nexium and affiliated programs and dos. Rneri demanded absolute
commitment from those he recruited and those within his inner circle,
including as to his teachings and ideology, and they quote
one of his victims, Sylvie. A lot of the time,

(14:37):
it doesn't make any sense, but we would all just agree.
It was so rare that someone would disagree with the
nexium curriculum, so rare as Mark Vicente testified that one
couldn't question the higher ranks, and questioning Keith Ranieri was

(14:57):
seen as a very, very bad thing. Lauren Salzman testified
that you would be shunned if you questioned the nexium
curriculum or the teachings of Keith Ranieri. Rneri and his
co conspirators maintained control over the enterprise by, among other means,

(15:18):
obtaining sensitive information about members and associates of the enterprise,
including shame and guilt, in order to influence and control
members and associates of the enterprise, isolating associates and others
from friends and family, and making them dependent on the
enterprise for their financial wellbeing and legal status within the

(15:41):
United States, and encouraging associates and others to take expensive
Nexium courses and incur debt to do so. Members of
the enterprise recruited and groomed partners for Vernieri, both within
and outside doss. Many were themselves in relationships thir nary
that involved pledges of loyalty penance and penance penances for

(16:08):
ethical breaches and collateral and so this gets into the
child preditation a portion of the criminal acts of Nexium
also so rarely talked about in terms of this criminal
diabolical cult. So in this September two thousand and five,

(16:34):
the defendant, meaning Keith Raneri, began a sexual relationship with
Camilla then fifteen. Camilla and her family had arrived in
Clifton Park, So this is around all being in New

(16:55):
York that area. Had arrived in Clifton Park at the
defendants invitation, in Keith Ranari's invitation, and he arranged for
her to work as a maid in Nancy Salzman's house.
There's another buried part of Nexium, which was a distance
away from her siblings. What did Nancy Salzman think having

(17:17):
a fifteen year old child as a maid in her home.
I mean, she's being presented as a victim, mainly because
the vow in their part two went in an interview
with her, and so they were happy to hide away
her biggest crimes and the fact that her in her

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house they found a shoe box containing half a million dollars.
Let's take a look at that hold On second there
it is. That's part of the government's evidence. So you
can see it's says sixty three on the side, who
was watching, there's a that's what that looked like. But

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Nancy Salzman is really being presented like, oh, Keith R.
Nary was so mean to me, so mean. She had
a fifteen year old girl working as her maid illegally,
by the way, brought over illegally. We'll get into that.
So before I go any further, I don't want to

(18:29):
just read the entire time. I do want to show
you a little bit of the media around now. Nancy Salzman,
take a look.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Very kind in the beginning, and he gave me everything
I wanted, like he gave me a company, he gave
me tools, he let me teach, he let.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
Me do everything I loved.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
This is the world the way I want, And this
is the world the way it is.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
These lines.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
You're always work mm hmm.

Speaker 7 (19:11):
Like, so I have someone who is in the external world,
it would look like telling me something I already know.
I can. I can.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
I'm in the two thousand and mine. This is Keith
after he is meeting in the future.

Speaker 7 (19:30):
It might be good if I'm speaking, Let me speak
and then no, no, and then say that afterwards.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
In any situation, what don't interrupt me. Don't interrupt me,
because what I'm about to say is so brilliant. She
actually did, I think the right thing, which is you
want to you want to put the time date stamp
as quickly as is in the beginning of a any

(20:00):
kind of audio recording as you can. You don't want
to wait till he's all the way done and then
bury it in the bottom. She did the right thing there.
Not to defend her, but what do you want to hear?

Speaker 8 (20:16):
Like?

Speaker 3 (20:16):
You'd be like, what is this audio tape of keep
through Anari's gobly cook? And then you'd have to wait
till the whole end of the audio recording to find
out when it was recorded? Silly, It's just ridiculous. It's
just exercising his power and control. But she had a
lot of power and control. Remember she was number two.

(20:39):
She made a lot of money on this thing.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
The ways you can learn.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
I was terrified of Keith whenever I don't think does
anybody really think she was terrified of Keith? She's a
co She built this with him, She built this curriculum.
I haven't seen no evidence that she was terrified of Keith,

(21:14):
and she seemed to know that it was criminal. She
was willing to make the best deal she could make
for herself and get out and then plead victimhood, and
that seems to be all the rage now plead out
and claim victimhood. The only one who has in is

(21:36):
Claire Brafman, who still says it was great. She refuses
to disavow Ranieri, and with Alison Mack, it seems like
she disavowed Ranieri at her sentencing somewhat and is now
kind of taking up his retaking up his cause, saying
that there were great things in nexing him and then

(21:57):
to help people and she didn't know it was illegal.
Come on, really, really, what do people think of that?
Was Alison Mack really surprised?

Speaker 5 (22:18):
Or I was in a meeting with other people, he
acted like I wasn't there. He would correct me whenever
I said anything. He purposely disempowered me. So when he
was around, I never opened my mouth, you know when.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
And then Mark Vicente, who's like, I'm worried it might
go into another cult. So he was in the Cult
of Rantha, then he was in Exiom and I'm worried
that he might go into another cult after this is
making excuses here for Nancy Salzman. Nancy Salzman used a

(23:04):
very powerful tool of neuro linguistic programming, and she she
held it over other people. And Mark Fascenti made money
on this too, and so did Sarah Edmondson. They all
did very well from Nexium. They didn't end up broke

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like so many other people. Like there are people they
victimized in it. But it seems to be all the
rage to say to rewrite what your part in the
cult and then just say I'm a victim I didn't
know and rewrite history.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
When Nancy Salzman said that that Keith Nary was abusive,
she began to come to that understanding. And that's kind
of what I was trying to tell, or not kind of.
That's what I was telling her in January two thousand sixteen,
is I began to notice the way he treated her,
and I was telling her that, but she couldn't actually
take it in, which I think is pretty calm cooman.

(24:08):
When you adore somebody that much, you can't actually see
what's going on in front.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Of Really, what did she see when she saw a
fifteen year old as a maid and a legal fifteen
year old as a maid in her home. And what
did she think when she gave up her daughters to
be with Keith Rnaeri and handed them over to the him.

(24:36):
She's a co monster in this and Mark Visnde's not
getting it. So we well, we may return to a
little bit more of that later, but that'll just give
you a little bit of a flavor for some of
the apologist media that's coming out around this cult. Camilla

(24:59):
and her family had arrived in So this is Camilla again,
Nancy Salzman's fifteen year old maid living in her home
illegally and also the victim of Keith Rnaeri. So this
is where the child preditation charges came from. Camilla and

(25:19):
her family had arrived in Clifton Park at the defendant's invitation,
and he arranged for her to work as a maid
in Nancy Salzman's house, which was a distance away from
her siblings. Camilla lived in a house with other members
of the Nexian community, including Monica Duran, a woman who,

(25:39):
like Camilla, would later become a first line master in Das.
So the way DOS works is so you have to
have six women under you, and those six women have
six women under them. How they never thought anything was
odd when it's like six sixty six the mark of

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the devil. But okay, so let me just show you
Monica really quickly. She's in This is in the more
of the government's evidence. She's on the bottom left here
of this paper in that wheel. This is a wheel.
So Camilla is blacked out because she's a minor at

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the time. Daniella Padilla, who's the one that Alison Mack
refers to and kind of blames her participation in DOS.
She talks about her wearing a piece of permanent jewelry
and her devotion to Keith. Nikki Klein thankfully got out
very late from the could but better late than never.

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Loretta Garza Rosa, Laura Junco again, Monica Duran, just going clockwise,
Alison mac and Laura Salzman. Lauren Salzman, excuse me? Is
everybody following? I hope I'm not losing anybody in this.

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And that's a lot of information. So on November two,
two thousand and five, and again on November twenty twenty four,
two thousand and five, the defendant took photographs of Camilla

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constituting CP several of the photographs to pick Camilla laying
on her back, on her on a bed, excuse me,
on a bed, fully nude, at least five photographs to
pick close ups. Trafficking of Daniella has proven at trial.

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Between March tenth and April twenty twelve, Ranieri, Laurence Salzman
and others trafficked Daniella. This is Camilla's sister, for labor
and services by confining her to a room for nearly
two years. Well, why did they confine her to a
room for nearly two years? Because she committed the crime

(28:21):
of having feelings for another man that wasn't Ranieri. That
was her great crime. And she was very highlighted in
the opening statement by Tanya Hajar in Keith Ranari's trial
was that she talked about Daniella being confined to this room,

(28:41):
but she made a note to say that the door
was open. I think she was anticipating that Keith Ranari's
defense was going to be like, look, Daniella could have
left at any time, but she's in a house where
her parents and for two years in a room, confined
to a room with just a piece of foam on
the floor and given really not you know, an empty room,

(29:08):
with her teeth you know what, tooth rotting out of
the back of her mouth, and every day writing keith
Rnary letters saying I'll be better, I'll fix my ethical breaches,
and keith Rnary insisted that women keep their hair long
and keep themselves very skinny. And when Laurence, when Daniella

(29:31):
cut her hair, keith Rnary demanded that she'd not be
let out until her hair grew back. So she was
in there for two years, but they told her that
they would throw her back to Mexico without her birth certificate,
without any papers, without any money, and without the support
of her family. So you can say it's an open door,

(29:56):
but there were so many threats and so much and
so much brainwashing before she even got in that room,
that whether the door was locked or unlocked, really it
was already basically locked by her brainwashing. By wanting the
support of her family, wanting the things that were being

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held from her, the support of her family, her papers,
including her birth certificate, and money, if she you know,
she's great to escape. She eventually escaped with nothing and
led a kind of hand to mouth existence working for
people who were kind enough to employ her with no papers.

(30:38):
She eventually hired a lawyer who got back her birth
certificate in their paper. But you know her papers. But
she worked for years in Mexico hand to mouth, doing
menial jobs after escaping out of this room. And now
she when she testified that she came in like a

(31:00):
boss woman, just strode up to the like I'll just
never forget her, this kind of stride. She had this
really confident walk to the witness stand, and she gave
her testimony very confidently. And at that time she was
running a factory. She was like a I guess what

(31:22):
you call what the young people would call a girl boss. Now,
so she'd done really well for herself. But she had,
she had. It was really so the end of her
torture wasn't over when she escaped, is my point. It
was such a such a hard life that she led

(31:44):
in Mexico with no papers, no support, and really relying
on the kindness of the few people that would hire her.
And it's not very common to get hired in Mexico.
It's hard to do without papers. Rnera initiated a relationship
with Daniella Camilla's sister so the fifteen year old's sister,

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So Danny is older than Camilla when Danny was eighteen.
After Danny re entered the United States in two thousand
and four, she began to work for Rneri. So we're
going pre the room, okay. She began to work for Rneri,
including by cleaning, organizing his books, digitalizing his music collection,

(32:28):
and compiling reports summarizing lengthy textbooks on various topics. So
Daniella is really the genius. If there's ever a genius
in Naxium, it's Daniella who read all these complicated books
and would summarize them for Keith Rneri, so Keith's Kimarinari
could sound smart. And that's a theme that goes on

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in Nexium, where Keith Rinari, like a vampire, sucks out
people's talents and ideas and takes them and labor and
takes them for his own and presents them to the
world like his own ideas when they're from books and
summarize from books and really under and he can only

(33:12):
really understand them because Daniella has made him cliff notes,
as he did in his relationship with other women. Ranieri
controlled Daniella's diet and Wait insisted that Daniella keep the
relationship secret. When she was twenty, Daniella became pregnant by
Ranieri and Pam Kafritz, who is really like Ranieri's Maxwell,

(33:36):
paid for Daniella to terminate it and instructed Daniella to
lie about the identity of the father to medical staff.
After Daniella okay, so I just described her in the
other room in the room after she had feelings for
another man, she was confined to her room for nearly
two years, during which she went months without human contact.

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She talked about listening to her family, living life without
her family members left meals for Danielle outside her door.
Daniello was denied prompt medical care and slept on a
foam pad on the floor. During this time, Daniella wrote
hundreds of letters to Raneri with various proposals to heal
her purported ethical breaches. Daniello believed that if she stopped writing,

(34:27):
she would be sent to Mexico without money or her
identification documents. Lauren Salsman reported to Rneri regarding Danielle's progress.
So Lauren Salzman was really the only person that Daniella
dealt with during that time, but Rneri frequently told Salzman
that Daniella was game playing and manipulating Salsman and needed

(34:48):
to stay in the room longer. Also, one of the
pieces of evidence we heard in court was Danielle's mother
begging Rneri to let Danielle out, and she didn't get
anywhere with him. Reneri forbade forbade Laurence Salsman from telling

(35:09):
Daniella anything or giving her any information about what was
going on on the outside with anybody. At one point,
when Daniella cut off her hair, I told you all this,
she would have to stay there until it grow back.
That's what Keith Rnari decided. Sometimes this is from her testimony.
Sometimes I would beg please let me know. I didn't

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know why, just let me out. Nobody cared. My family didn't.
Nobody cared. So it was also it was also knowing
that nobody wanted me. I'm in a world where nobody cares,
where I'm losing my life. It was clearly never going

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to end. In approximately February twenty twelve, after considering ending
it all, Aniella left the room. Daniello was then driven
to Mexico at Rneri's direction, and was told that unless
she completed book reports for Rneri, she would not receive
her birth certificate. Luckily, Daniello was done with that and

(36:16):
ultimately obtained a copy of ultimately obtained a copy of
her birth certificate with the assistance of an attorney working
for a human rights commission. So this alien smuggling is
a big part of the crimes of Nexium. Keith Ranari
and his co conspirators participated in efforts to recruit and
secure immigration status for non citizens so that they could

(36:40):
work in one or more Nexium affiliated organizations or as
one of his one of the women he preyed upon.
Among the individuals that Rneri and his co conspirators assisted
in entering or remaining in the United States on law
fully were siblings Marianna. This is the same Mexican family Marianna, Daniella,

(37:06):
Adrian and Camilla. By two thousand and eight, all four
siblings were out of status and unlawfully in the United States.
In two thousand and four, Rneri arranged for Daniella to
enter the United States unlawfully using a false identification document

(37:29):
with the last name and date of birth of Ashauna Shinona,
a deceased woman. Daniella's parents had paid for her to
take anxium course in Mynerey, Mexico, and encouraged Daniella to
join the Nexium community and all being in New York.
On October twenty six, two thousand and four, Daniella was
denied entry into the United States and returned home to Mexico.

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Rneri instructed Daniella to fly to Toronto, Canada, enter the
United States with a full el Sheriff's ID card containing
the name and date of birth of a deceased woman who,
according to Keith Raneri, bore a resemblance to Daniella, and
on December twenty fourth, two thousand and four, so the

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day before Christmas, Daniella met Kathy Russell, the bookkeeper at
the border. Russell handed Daniella the false Sheriff's ID bearing
the name Lisa Chenona, and drove Daniello across the border
into the United States and back to the defendants community
in Clifton Park, New York between approximately two thousand and

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one two. In September twenty eighteen, Rnieri directed his co
defendant Kathy Russell to lease one twenty Victory Way, a
property in Clifton Park, New York. The residence was used
to house Camilla, who did not have legal status within
the United States. Russell leased the property for over for

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seven years under an assumed name, and each year paid
the rent in cash and in full. Marianna so This
is Camilla and Danny's sister Reneering his co conspirators made
significant significant efforts to assist Marianna in entering and remaining
in the United States. Marianna arrived in the United States

(39:24):
in about two thousand and three, shortly after completing high school,
in order to study the Nexian curriculum with Rneri. In
two thousand and four, Marianna began a relationship with Rneri
and pam Ka fritz So his Maxwell, who eventually dies
of cancer. Sometime thereafter, Marianna's status in the United States

(39:45):
on a visitor's visa expired. Notwithstanding that Marianna had been
living with Rneri without legal status in the Nexian community
for nearly a decade, Claire Broffman falsely claimed that Marianna
had always been compliant with US immigration laws and that
Marianna had been employed by her father's rock drilling company

(40:06):
in Mexico, so Rnerian his co conspirators engaged in unlawful
surveillance and investigation of his perceived enemies. The targets of
these efforts included federal judges overseeing litigation in which Nexium
was a party, high ranking politicians, reporters who had published

(40:29):
articles critical of Rneri or Nexium, Nexium's own lawyers, legal adversaries,
and their families, and an accountant James Loper Fido who
worked for an attorney who had previously done work for Nexium.

(40:50):
And Edgar Broffman, Sr. The father of Claire Broffman Seagrums,
The head also ran Universal for some time. On multiple occasions,
Brafman approached meaning Universal Studios in the movie Studios. On

(41:10):
multiple occasions, Brafman approached Stephen Herberts, a colleague of her father,
whom she believed to have political influence, in an attempt
to persuade him to help her intimidate individuals perceived to
be hostile to Nexium or Rineri. Between August two thousand
and five and October two thousand and eight, Rneri directed

(41:34):
Daniella to obtain the user names and passwords. For email
accounts belonging to individuals they perceived to be Nexium enemies,
in order to gain access to those individuals emails accounts
and monitor their communications. After the publication of the October
two thousand and three Forbes article in which Edgar Bronfman

(41:57):
was quoted as calling Nexium a cult, Rneri considered Edgar
Broffman an enemy of his and of nexiums. As a result,
Rneri asked Daniello. As a result, Rneri tasked Daniel excuse
me with creating key logging software in order to access
and monitor Edgar Broffman's email account. Broffman installed the key

(42:20):
logging software onto her father's computer, and Daniello was there
after able to access Edgar Broffman's email account for years.
Daniello reported the results to Raneri at Rneri's direction. Daniella
also created and installed key logging software on the computer
of James la Pifido, an accountant who had worked for

(42:44):
Joseph O'Hara, an attorney who had previously done work for Nexium.
Daniella thereafter regularly emailed the results of her key logging software,
which reflected Lapifido's computer activity. To Rneri. In November two
thousand and eight. Rneri also enlisted daniellotinstall key logging software

(43:08):
on Daniella's sister Marianna's computer, after Rneri suspected Marianna of
rekindling a relationship with an ex boyfriend. So here's, of course,
the hypocrisy of Rneri. He can have be sleeping with everyone,

(43:31):
but every woman has to be faithful, even emotionally faithful
to him. Through installation of the key logging software, Daniella
provided Rneri with her sister's Facebook password. And so you
see that Claire Brafman is spying on her father and
handing over and Danielle is spying on her sister so

(43:53):
very much, making ripping families apart and making them loyal
to Rnerian the cult above all ol else on behalf
of Nexium. Brafman hired several private firms, including Canaprobe and Interfer,
in order to investigate perceived enemies of Nexium and Rneri.

(44:16):
Between approximately two thousand and seven and two thousand and nine,
Canaprobe sent the results of purported banksweeps for bank accounts
and balance information belonging to Nexium's adversaries. I mean, should
that be? Is that legal to do to hire private
firms to get your perceived enemy's banking information? And nothing

(44:40):
happened to canaprobe and interfer for doing this. On March
twenty seven, twenty eighteen, a search warrant was executed on
the residence of Nancy Salzman. Among the items recovered was
a large box containing what appears to be private banking
information of many individuals perceived to be next seeing enemies,

(45:01):
including Edgar Broffman, Joseph O'Hara, Rick Ross, the Cold Expert,
and others. So let's listen to what Rick Ross has
to say about fighting this cult and actually going to
trial with this with this cult. Hey, tater Bug, thanks

(45:22):
for keeping this out there. Roberta, You're so welcome. Thanks
for moderating and listening. Tater appreciate your support.

Speaker 9 (45:33):
So what.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Share a video file? Hold on one second, Lee.

Speaker 8 (45:41):
The lawsuit was dismissed before he was arrested, But that's
how long he continued to harass me. And he wanted
me to take these papers down from being online, but
I never did, and they were used by so many
people that were traumatized by Keith and Airy families, individuals

(46:06):
that he manipulated who eventually would leave. Some would actually
go through a kind of breakdown where they would be
hospitalized and then leave the group. And then many of
them would call me and say thank you, thank you
for having those papers online, that those doctors helped me

(46:30):
to understand that I wasn't crazy. Those papers helped me
to understand that I'm not crazy, that I wasn't crazy,
and that this was something that was a direct byproduct
of the training that I was subjected to within Nexium.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
So what he's saying is is that he kept up
some of the Nexium curriculum on his website that he
was sued into. You know, they wanted him to take
it down, and people who had their minds broken by
Nexium could show their doctors that they were really broken

(47:09):
by this, by this curriculum of nexiums and also neural
linguistic programming and undue influence. You know, the undue influence
of the cult had really worked into the curriculum.

Speaker 8 (47:28):
And if I hadn't been able to read that and
understand that, it would have been even harder for me
to recover. So that's why Ranieri wanted those papers to
be taken down because he did not want people to
know what he was doing, which was deliberate, which was methodical,
which was systematic.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Okay, that is the great Rick Ross could expert who
was enemy of Nexium and sued along with Tony Tally
and many others who were who spoke out against Nexium.
All right, so this part has all been really just

(48:12):
kind of glossed over and hidden. I mean, how much
more diabolical than having your hiring firms and all backed
by Claire Brofin's money to get your bank rep I mean,
what's more personal than your bank records and your emails?

(48:33):
So RNERI obstructed justice by altering videotapes that were produced
in discovery by federal lawsuit in New Jersey. This is
something that Mark Vicente testified to. So Nancy Salzman would
make claims that Nexium could heal people of their ailments,

(48:54):
and they took all those parts out, all those false
claims out to hand over and discovery. So they were
handing over they said these are unaltered videotapes. And Mark
Vicente in his testimony so talked about how they used
sandpaper to make the videotapes look old and original. In

(49:19):
two thousand and three, Nexium and affiliated entities filed suit
against Stephen Franco, a former Nexium student in Rick Ross.
The lawsuit alleged copyright infridgement and centered on a claim
that Franco had violated a non disclosure agreement by providing
Nexium course materials to Rick Ross, a cult deprogrammer, who

(49:40):
published the course materials on his website. In around two
thousand and eight, Franco's attorneys requested the production of certain
videotapes in support of their claim that the Nexium curriculum
contained false statements and violated certain state consumer protection laws.
So this is where you have to ask, what was

(50:00):
Mark Vicente thinking editing this stuff out? What were these
cult members when they were doing this illegal stuff? What
are they thinking? So I'm sure I would think that
there was a deal made with the government with Mark
Vicente that in an exchange for his testimony, they wouldn't

(50:21):
charge him for this, because he could have been charged
for this. Nancy Salzman was but in June two thousand
and eight, Rnaria tasked Mark Vicente, among others, to alter
videotapes and remove certain segments from them without having the
videotapes appear altered. Vicente was provided with videotapes to remove content,

(50:43):
including segments in which Nancy Salzman made unsubstantiated health claims
about Naxium's curriculum. These altered videotapes were then produced in
discovery by Naxium attorneys with the false claim that they
were provided in unedited facts.

Speaker 8 (51:00):
Es.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Hey, guys, these are just like the unedited videotapes. Wow,
isn't it strange that the that the curriculum you remember
taking from Nancy Salzman is in here anymore? There's no
none of these false medical claims in it anymore. So
now we're getting into DOS in late twenty fifteen. This

(51:21):
is much publicized, but the real cruelty of it has
been much publicized, but uh Rneri's part is often often downplayed.
Aside from Rneri, all members of DOS were female. Rneri

(51:41):
gave himself the title grand Master Rneri Directed Slaves, UH
Direct Direct Slaves. The first line were Camilla Danielle Padilla
so not Camilla's sister, but Daniella Padilla, Nicky Klein, Loretza Arza, Rosa,

(52:01):
Laura Junco, Monica, Duran Alison Mack and Lauren Salzman. Let's
take a look at that together. So this is the
first line of DOS masters. Each of these first line

(52:23):
slaves recruited their own slaves by approaching young women and
falsely describing DOS as a secret women's empowerment group or sorority.
Renieri instructed the first line never to disclose his participation
in and leadership of DOS, and it brings to mind
why Alison Mack thought it was such a good idea

(52:46):
that she take responsibility for the branding ceremony and that
it was her idea. Prospective slaves were required to provide collateral,
including damaging confessions about themselves and loved ones, truth or not,
rights to financial assets, and explicit photographs and videos to
prevent them from leaving the group or disclosing its existence

(53:09):
to others. Through DOS, Rneri used the first line to
recruit other women to make a collateralized vow of obedience
to their master and by extension, to Raneri, and then
required these slaves to perform labor, take naked photographs, and
in some cases to engage in acts with Rneri. Ryneri

(53:33):
at one point told Camilla that it would be good
for her to own her own f toy slave for
him that she could groom and use as a tool
to pleasure him. Rneri also instructed Daniella Padilla, Loretza Garza Rosa,
Laura Junco, and Camilla to find a young virgin successor

(53:55):
for Rneri. The first line of DOS met three times
a week for about ten hours a week. At the
start of each meeting, the first line took a fully
nude photograph of themselves and sent it to Raneri. In
the meetings that Ranieri attended, Rneri sat on a chair dressed,
while the first Line sat on the floor beneath him naked.

(54:18):
Rneri engaged in relationships with the first line occasionally at
the same time, and directed them to purchase a sorority
house which would contain BDSM equipment, including a human sized cage.
And this is we saw receipts of all these kind
of purchases. So when I hear Alison Mack's new husband,

(54:41):
Frank Mink say, oh no, this wasn't like a It
wasn't degenerate the thing that Alison Mack was involved in.
It wasn't like Epstein, I think, what is he? What
has your wife from you and why is your research

(55:03):
so poor? It was very clearly degenerate, very degenerate, and
the purchases that we saw presented in court were very disturbing,
dark and disturbing. These components of DS, along with Rneri's
leadership of DS, were deliberately concealed from recruits. Rnerian other

(55:24):
DOS masters recruited women as slaves into DOS by deliberately
concealing Ranneri's role. Women were recruited in d DOS from California, Mexico, Canada,
and elsewhere, and DOS masters used encrypted messaging applications located overseas,
including telegram and signal, just like Aaron Reid guys, the

(55:47):
favorite app of criminals to communicate with their slaves and
to collect collateral. After women were recruited into DS and
their collateral was collected, the DOS slaves were told that
they needed to provide additional this is really important, additional
collateral each month, so your collateral doesn't end when you join.

(56:12):
You have to up your collateral every month. Of DOS slaves,
including Sylvie, Nicole and Jay among others, believe that if
they did not obey their masters, their collateral would be released.
So this is where we get into blackmail. Raneri and
DOS masters use a variety of means to coerce their

(56:33):
slaves into submission. In accordance with Rneri's instructions, DOS slaves
are required to be branded with a symbol that, unknown
to the slaves, represented Rneri's own initials. DOS slaves are
also controlled in a number of other ways, including physical isolation, force,

(56:54):
participation in readiness drills, requirement to seek permission from Rneri
or their master to sleep or eat, so they call
it sleep deprivation, extremely restrictive diets at Ranieri's instructions. So
they go through the whole video, the whole the whole

(57:16):
audio tape that was presented to the government, not by
Alison Mack but by her slave under her, India Oxenburg.
So India Oxenburg gave this tape to the government. But
let's take another listen of it. I think it's a

(57:37):
little easier than me reading it. This is where Alison
Mack and Keith Rnary take a walk and come up
and are discussing the branding. Take a listen, Keith and Allison,
what's the text?

Speaker 10 (57:55):
The type no. The ninth January ninth, six nine am
talking about branding in a wall.

Speaker 5 (58:04):
So.

Speaker 7 (58:07):
I think doing the actual brand in an orderly passion,
each of the seven strokes having a certain ritualization. Maybe
each of the strokes has something that's said with them

(58:34):
and maybe repeated after the stroke is done.

Speaker 10 (58:38):
So like somebody says the thing while the stroke is
being done, and then the person that's getting it done
repeats it afterwards.

Speaker 7 (58:46):
Well, I don't know. Yeah, you guys come up with
something and propose.

Speaker 8 (58:49):
It to me.

Speaker 7 (58:49):
Okay, Well, because you've done it, So what would have
been most meaningful, deep surrendering, focusing for you?

Speaker 10 (58:58):
I think it probably happens it whispered in my ear,
and then me repeating it out loud, and then having
it whispered in my ear, and then me repeating it
out loud.

Speaker 7 (59:06):
Well, ask the others.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
It's not all you. He did ask her. He did
ask her, and then when she answers, he puts her
down for being so selfish, for only thinking of herself.
Some serious manipulation going on there, he.

Speaker 11 (59:29):
Said, all of you guys who've gone through it, Yes,
there's a little there's a little play in the audio here.

Speaker 7 (59:45):
The other thing is, you guys did it, and you
weren't completely because you had a outsider and a guy
doing it. Whoever, do you think the person who's being
should be completely inserted, held to the table like a
sort of almost like a sacrifice. I don't know that

(01:00:05):
that's a feeling of submission, you know, That's all.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
So I have a question to Daniella Roberts. Do here
Keith Rnire refers to the brander as a guy. But
I was under the impression that she's no longer a doctor,
so I don't have to call her. But she was
at the time doctor Danielle Roberts now lost her medical license.
Danielle Roberts, excuse me, did the branding. But here Keith

(01:00:41):
Ornire refers to it as a guy, and yet she
was clothed. But is that Is he doing that because
he knows it's being taped and he wants to obscure
the identity of the person doing this branding with a
cauterizing tool. I mean, this is so unlike a tattoo.

(01:01:05):
I mean, you could smell the smell of burning when
it went on, and you when you look at the
actual brand, it's so even months later, it's still so
red and angry. For Alison mac It was a real
ego boost that she could withstand this pain. And she

(01:01:28):
was like to the other women like what you just
disassociate yourself? What no, biggie? Yeah, thank you, Tony. I
thought maybe you would know. Great not Toni Natali says,

(01:01:50):
the first brands were done by a guy, thank you.
You just don't know with Keith Rnaire because he's always
so aware of obscuring things for law enforcement. Good to know,
thank you. What happened to him? Did he lose his
medical did he have a medical license and did he

(01:02:10):
lose it? Tony?

Speaker 7 (01:02:14):
And also, of course videoing it and videoing it from
different angles or whatever gives collateral, So it probably should
be a more vulnerable position type of the thing. Back,

(01:02:39):
legs slightly for a leg spread straight, like being held
inside of the table, hands probably above the head, being
held almost like tied down, like a sacrificial whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Can you imagine having this conversation? Yeah, just like a
sacrificial whatever. Okay, okay, great, whatever you want done? Great Vanguard.
Oh he's so schlubby. He's such a schlubby nothing burger.
Tony says. The first guy who did it was an
artist who focused more on that type of branding. Oh oh,

(01:03:16):
so he didn't have much to lose, I guess, and
the person should ask, can you imagine going to medical
school only to lose it for this? I mean, I
fully support the fact that she lost her medical license.
She should have, but all that work gone out the
window because you get involved with this with keith rin

(01:03:38):
Are and nexium and doing this kind of stuff. I mean,
she probably saved a lot of other patients from being
victimized by someone who was unwell a dark personality.

Speaker 7 (01:03:53):
To be branded, okay, should say, please brand me. It
would be an honor or something like that, an honor
I want to wear for the rest of my life.
I don't know, okay, And they should probably say that

(01:04:14):
before they're held down, so it doesn't seem like they're
being coerced.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Okay, I mean, we know they're being coerced, but we
don't want it to seem like they're being coerced because
we have tons of collateral on them.

Speaker 7 (01:04:36):
I know, those are just thoughts.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Those are just thoughts. With this purpose. It's just such
a creepy tape with a purposeful, kind of insistent sounds
of steps going on under it. So near the end
of this document or the important parts of this document.
This is also another important thing that's been it and toss

(01:05:02):
masters also benefited financially from recruiting. So the new podcasts
Alison after NEXSI Alison Mack after Nexium goes through great
pains to talk about all the money Alison Mack lost,
but they don't talk about the money she made from it.
Not that it was huge, but she was making money

(01:05:24):
from it. Toss masters also benefited financially from recruiting and
maintaining slaves. Toss slaves were coerced into providing labor and
services for their masters under the threat of release of
their collateral. So she gained services and labor and services
from those under her, including editing and transcription work, photographs

(01:05:53):
of course, naked, and other tasks. Masters were expected to
receive approximately forty hours of labor each week from their slaves,
according to the testimony of Laurence Salzman, where Nari decided
that quote, if we each had six slaves who had
six slaves under them, you know, you would have forty

(01:06:16):
hours approximately thirty six, but approximately forty hours of work
per week for life from these individuals. So it's for
you know, indentured servitude, Sylvie who had worked Speaking of
indentured servitude, let's get into Claire Brofman and what she
did to Sylvie had worked for Claire Brofman for nearly

(01:06:39):
ten years when Monica Durant, a first line master and Das,
approached Sylvie about joining DAWs. So Brofman brought Sylvie over
here with a big promise of a big salary and
then paid her pennies once she asked for two hundred
dollars to go to the doctor, and Claire Brofman denied

(01:07:00):
her two hundred dollars to see a doctor because all
their health was deteriorating under this low calorie vegan diet
and just the stress of this little sleep and lots
of work. At that time, Sylvie had recently been married
to another member of the Nexium community. Both Ranieri and

(01:07:22):
Brafmann at various points instructed Sylvie to not have relations
with her husband for the first two years of their marriage.
Durant approached Sylvie and invited Sylvie to a secret project
that duran said had nothing to do with Nexium. Sylvie
was told that in order to learn more, she had
to provide collateral, which was something capable of destroying her

(01:07:44):
relationships with her family. Sylvie provided a stamp letter addressed
to her parents, falsely confessing to being a prostitute. Sylvie
also provided a photograph of herself as collateral. Thereafter, Duran
gave Sylvie an assignment to seduce Rneri. Sylvie was assigned

(01:08:07):
to send Rneri photographs every day, some naked photographs every day.
Sylvie was not attracted to Rneri and found him creepy.
Duran later arranged for Sylvie to meet Rneri at a
house where Reneri took Sylvie upstairs instructed her to undress
and lie down on the bed. Rneri then performed unwanted

(01:08:30):
acts on Sylvie and took close up photographs of Sylvie
with Sylvie's phone. Sylvie felt disgusted by this encounter and
acquiesced to it only because she believed her collateral would
be released if she did not obey Raneri. The photographs
were then sent to Duran using telegram and encrypted messaging service.

(01:08:51):
After Sylvie completed the assignment that she had been given,
Sylvie deleted the photograph in disgust and shame. The next day,
Duran called Sylvie panicked because the photographs had been deleted
from Durand's phone. Durand told Sylvie that you would have
to go back to Ranieri and have him take new photographs,

(01:09:12):
which Sylvie did. Oh can you imagine finding this guy
so disgusting and creepy and you think you've done this
assignment and they're like, nope, the fact that you deleted
and in shame, You're gonna have to go back and
he's gonna have to this discuss this guy you find creepy.
He's gonna have to take these photographs again. Nicole, this

(01:09:33):
is someone who's testimony. I was in court for an
actress in her early thirties and is under Alison Mack
and this DOS thing. Began taking NEXTEM classes in twenty fifteen,
including acting classes with Alison Mack. In February twenty sixteen,
Mack invited Nicole to join a women's mentorship group, but

(01:09:54):
asked that Nicole first provide collateral. At that time, Nicole
was living in Brooklyn, New York. Nicole was told and
believed that the organization was woman only and had no
connection to Nexium, so she had come from La is
my memory. After mac made some suggestions of sufficient collateral,
Nicole wrote a series of letters, falsely alleging say by

(01:10:19):
a family member and other damaging allegations totally untrue. So
these allegations didn't have to be true, they just have
to be devastating should they be released. After Mac assured
Nicole that the letters would be locked in a box
where nobody would see them, Nicole provided the letters and

(01:10:39):
an explicit video of herself to Mac. Once Nicole had
provided this collateral, Mac told Nicole about DOS, referring it
to it as the vow. Nicole agreed to become Max's slave.
While Nicole agreed to join DOES, she was not aware
and was not told that she would later be provided

(01:11:00):
required to provide additional collateral, which on a monthly basis,
including credit card authorizations and the right to her grandmother's
wedding ring. Mac directed Nicole to be celibate for six
months and subsequently assigned Nicole to contact Ranieri. One night,

(01:11:24):
when Nicole was staying with Mac in Clifton Park, New York,
Rneri called Mac. Mac told Nicole to go outside and
meet Ranneri, which Nicole obeyed. Rneri blindfolded Nicole led her
to a car and drove her to a house. Rneri
then led Nicole, still blindfolded, through some trees inside a
building where he ordered her to undress. She was tied

(01:11:48):
to a table. Another person in the room, unknown to Nicole,
performed acts on Nicole. Raneri asked Nicole if Nicole was okay.
Nicole said that she was very and told Hneria asked
if Nicole was okay and told Nicole that she was
very brave and not to tell anyone what had happened.

(01:12:11):
Nicole believed that if she left DAWs, her collateral would
be released. Unknown to Nicole, the individual who performed acts
on her was Camilla. A photograph recovered from Camilla's Google
account reflects a photograph of the table on which Nicole

(01:12:32):
had been tied, along with the video camera that was
appointed in the direction of the table that was shown
as evidence in court. Nicole met the other DOS slaves
under Alison Mack, including India Oxenberg, Michelle, and Danielle. Throughout
Nicole's time in MAC regularly required slaves to pose for

(01:12:56):
nude photographs either as assignments are collateral, and those photographs
were sent to Rneri. Mac also assigned her other slaves India, Michelle,
and Danielle with the task of seducing Rneri. So she
has she yet now knows of four people who've all

(01:13:16):
had the same task, and Matt Alison Mack isn't thinking anything.
She still thinks Reneri's good and that there's nothing odd
with this. Really, I mean, I just find this so
hard to believe, and I think this is just a
I think this is just part of Alison Mack's really

(01:13:40):
negative impulses towards women and jealousy towards women that she
could punish them through DAWs through this. There's just no
in no world do I believe that Alison Mack thought
that this wasn't I couldn't see that this wasn't exploitative
and wasn't for Rneri's benefit, and that to I don't believe.

(01:14:03):
I just can't believe that she really thinks she was
helping these women all in the same way. They all
have the same issues. Really, mac expected to receive and
did receive financial opportunities and privileges as a result of
her slaves compliance with orders, including her orders to engage
in acts with Rneri. Jay is an actress in a

(01:14:26):
model who began taking Nexium classes in or about twenty sixteen,
during which time she became friendly with India, one of
MAC slaves. In approximately November twenty sixteen, India recruited Jay
into DOS, and Jay was told DOS was a women's
only organization. After several months, MAC and India gave Jay

(01:14:48):
a special assignment again another person, to seduce Raneri and
have Rneri take a photograph of Jay to prove that
she had done it. Mac told Jay, I give you
permission to enjoy it, and Jay understood the assignment as
directed to have relations with Rhineri. Jay asked Mac directly

(01:15:08):
if Rneri was a part of DOS, which Mac denied,
so she's lying flat out to the women under her.
Jay refused to engage and act with Rhineri. Before leaving
Dawson approximately May two thousand and seven, Jay captured images
of collateral belonging to other slaves, believing she could protect

(01:15:30):
the release of her own collateral by having other DOS
members collateral as a leverage. So it wasn't in a
lock box? How did Jay have access to it? If
it was in a lock box, it wasn't. The existence
of DOS became known within the community in early June
twenty seventeen, when the husband of Sarah Edmondson publicly confronted

(01:15:51):
Naxia members about DOS. Immediately after the existence of DOS
was publicly disclosed, Rneri directed the first line of DOS
to lie about his involvement in DOS, as well as
to compile materials related to DOS and secure them. Rneri
also instructed the first line to collect positive testimonials about

(01:16:13):
DOS and create a DOS website. So here this calls
into question Alison Mack's story that she just took responsibility
for the branding ceremony on her own without direction from Rneri,
when the government's arguing that Ranieri had already directed Alison

(01:16:35):
mac to lie and she was following his instructions, and
all the first line masters of DOS to lie about
the way that the group was created. In July and
September twenty seventeen, Ranieri and Claire Braffman received letters from
separate DOS victims requesting the return or destruction of their collateral,

(01:17:03):
which included descriptions of the collateral. Braffman hired private investigators
and a public relations firm to rehabilitate dosa's public image
and distance it from Nexium, so had Vanessa Gagartiadis, one

(01:17:25):
of the two podcasters behind the Alison Macafter Nexium podcast
and the journalist who wrote the piece in The New
York Magazine of which is really a love letter piece
to Exiom, argued with me in court that Claire Broffman

(01:17:45):
couldn't have any knowledge of the dark side of Nexium
because she was the money person that was kept from her.
Had Vanessa Grigoriadis done her research a little deeper, she
would have seen that she knew that she was receiving
less letters from DOS victims talking about what they were doing.
I mean, it's just not It's not a realistic view

(01:18:07):
that Claire brofan was kept for any of the darkness
of Nexium, especially since she had financially and exploited Sylvie
for her labor for years. She was the dark side
of Nexium part of it. Broffin also made attempts to

(01:18:27):
have criminal charges instituted against Sarah Edmondson. In September twenty seventeen,
Rneri and Brofman were alerted to the fact that The
New York Times would shortly be publishing an article about Dos.
Brofman and Rneri drafted intimidating cease and desist letters to
DOS victims that Brofin and Rnieri feared would publicly disclose

(01:18:50):
the existence of DOS. These letters were later sent to
several DOS victims by attorneys in Mexico. For instance, on
September thirteen, than seventeen, Rneri sent Claire Bromfin the following
email with the subject line, what are your thoughts, miss
THOSS Victims? I am the chief attorney of a criminal

(01:19:11):
investigation in Mexico of more than two twenty individuals tied
together in a cooperative destructive network. These individuals, including yourself,
have been acting against individuals who participate in the Nexium
Corporation community. You are currently connected to the criminal investigations
involving fraud, coercion, extortion, harassment, stalking, theft of trade secrets,

(01:19:37):
which includes the use of trade secrets compromised, among other things,
clientless criminal conspiracy, computer crimes, and corporate espionage. I strongly
suggest that you cease and desist, undo, reverse, cancel, and
retract participation in all past, present, and future conversations, conference calls, meetings,

(01:20:05):
news media, social media, blogs or websites relating to this subject. Matter.
Until the criminal matters are resolved, you should do everything
in your power to affect this. Your best course of
action is to minimize your exposure. In addition to the above,
is to repair all damages to parties you have acted against,

(01:20:26):
reconciling with them, and fully cooperating with the criminal investigations.
In this regard, I can help you, for I represent
some of your victims and have access to others I know,
so they're trying to get what they know, trying to
get their testimony and what they know so they can
head it off. I know that people in the media

(01:20:48):
can be coercive abusive in their power. People in the
media can be coercive and abusive in their power, but
not reneering Claire Bravman, I know that people in the
media and also bloggers and the like can be coercive,
abusive in their power and force unwitting, uninformed participants to
be complicit in situations and potentially even wave rights. You

(01:21:12):
still have the ability to pull away from all participation
with these people. Please contact me as soon as possible.
Less than thirty minutes later, Braffin emailed the text of
the email of the meta of the email to Alejandro Betancourt,
a co conspirator based in Mexico. The following day, September fourteenth,

(01:21:33):
twenty seventeen, the reference das Victim received an email from
an attorney in Mexico, Ricardo Almado of Almetto, Gaxiola and Abogondo's,
with the subject line Causa Pinol on Mexico. Attached to

(01:21:54):
the email was a Microsoft word document containing word for
word the of the email sent by Rhineri to Brofman.
The metadata of the word document received by the DOS
Victim reflects the creator of the document was Brofman. On
September eighteenth, twenty seventeen, Rneri sent Broffman the following email

(01:22:16):
with the subject line draft mss das victim. You are
the only person receiving this letter. The overture is against
my better judgment, as I feel there is little probability
of success yet more expense, But I am writing you
on my client's behalf. If you do not respond affirmatively

(01:22:37):
to this letter by one pm September nineteenth, I will
need to proceed by previously required I will then not
contact you informally again. My clients want to give you
this opportunity to cooperate and minimize the impact on your life.
The criminal investigations will increase in number and thoroughness, and

(01:23:01):
will not stop until justice is served. This will not
go away. The group with which you are involved contains
individuals who have already served prison time, others who are
currently indicted, and some that face extradition proceedings. The others
are under investigation for quite serious crimes. The form of

(01:23:23):
justice to which they subscribe is trial and conviction by media,
personal opinion, and abuse of power. They appear to have
no issue hold on one second, okay, they appear to

(01:23:44):
have no I just lost my place, excuse me. They
appear to have no issue with committing a crime when
it suits them. They use the actions of others to
justify this when the person they target is right or wrong.
This method of prosecution is very wrongful. You must separate

(01:24:06):
from them completely to mitigate the effects on yourself. Please
divest yourself from the wrongfulness and this group. Please write
to me affirmatively by the above deadline indicating you will
cooperate fully. I can also help you with any criminal
investigation within the United States. Sincerely. That same day, the

(01:24:26):
DOS victim received an email from mister Almeto Gaxiola, attaching
a second letter as a document in Microsoft Word which
contain nearly exactly the same letter as sent to Bronfman
by Ranieri, and the metadata of the word document reflects
the creator of that document with Bromfmann. So other DOS victims,

(01:24:51):
including Jay, receive similar intimidating letters from another internity, Diego
Ruez Duran a Buvette Ruez Duran. On October eleventh, twenty seventeen,
six days before The New York Times published its reporting
on DOS, Jay received an email from mister Duran. In

(01:25:14):
the email, mister Durand stated that he was taking the
liberty of writing to you to let you know that
the State's Attorney's office in Mexico had issued some directives
against you and other individuals. Mister Durand include a letter
in Spanish and document containing an English translation directing Jay
to stop, abstain and refrain from incurring any type of intimidation,

(01:25:40):
acts of nuisance or disturbances. Months later, in December twenty seventeen,
Claire Bronfman released a public statement characterizing DOS as a sorority,
stating that it had truly benefited the lives of its
members and did so freely quote, I find no fault

(01:26:02):
in a group of women or men for that matter,
freely taking a vow of loyalty and friendship with one
another to feel safe while pushing back against the fears
that have stifled their personal and professional growth unquote. Ranieri
also issued a public statement denying his association with DOS

(01:26:23):
and claiming that experts had concluded that members of the
Sorority hadn't been coerced. Experts an appeal to authority Kay's
experts had concluded it's almost like a tooth based commercial.
Three out of four experts had concluded that DOS and
the members of the Secret Sorority hadn't been coerced. After

(01:26:45):
multiple DOS victims spoke publicly about their experiences, Ranieri and
Nikki Klein, a member of the First Line, considered releasing
an edited video of Sarah's branding ceremony. The branding video
depicted Sarah naked and being branded, and stated as she
had been instructed master please brand me. It would be
an honor. In May twenty nineteen, during the trial against Rneri,

(01:27:08):
the video Seraph branding video was public disseminated and broadcast
in Mexican in the Mexican media, so it sounds like
Claire Broffman put that out Shortly after the media reports
were published against das, Neri and Brafman traveled to Mexico
as media outlooks began reporting that the United States Attorney's

(01:27:29):
Office had launched a criminal investigation. Whreeneri stopped using the
phone number he had previously used for over fifteen years,
and he and Brofman began using encrypted email accounts between
approximately November, So now we're getting into their financial crimes.
November and March twenty eighteen, Rneri and Brofman conspired to

(01:27:55):
commit identity theft in connection with Rnieri's continued use of
credit card numbers and bank account numbers belonging to Pamela Kafritz,
knowing Kerfritz was deceased. This scheme was part of a
long standing practice of deliberately keeping money and assets out
of Rneri's name. So Rneri said he was a renucclant

(01:28:17):
like he had no money and he had no assets.
But I believe he did own half of a home
around Albany, New York. I thought, but they he was
given sixty six million to play the commodities market. By
Claire Broffman using Claire Bromfton's money and lost it most
of it. Brafman facilitated the scheme by arranging for regular

(01:28:41):
payment of pam kofritz credit card after she died on
November seventh, twenty sixteen. Among the charges on pam kafritz
credit card were charges to Amazon, Restoration Hardware, A pet Shop,
Domino's Pizza, a stock store, and Broke Glynn, Nieman, Marcus,
Bergdorf Goodmans. We got to have the good clothes Burgdoor

(01:29:06):
Crimmins is like in New York City's like our finest
department store, one of the sacks Direct, Netflix and various
baby companies. In An approximate approximately one hundred and thirty
five thousand dollars was charged to pamelaka Fritz's credit card
from November seventh, twenty sixteen, the date of her death,

(01:29:26):
to February eighth, twenty eighteen. In addition, dispersements were made
from Pamela ka Fritz's key Bank account after she died,
an approximate in three hundred and twenty thousand dollars, three
hundred and five dollars in checks, and seven hundred and
thirty six thousand, eight hundred and fifty six total dispersements

(01:29:47):
were drawn from Kurfritz's account, which included payments to Kathy Russell.
So that'll give you a little of the idea of
some of the charges against Keith Rnari that really aren't
being talked about so much anymore, especially all that financial

(01:30:12):
exploitation of Pamcafritz, who was really like Keith Ranari's Klain
Maxwell until she died of cancer in twenty seventeen. Her
she was a very wealthy woman, and they just kept

(01:30:37):
just going into her funds after she had died. Okay,
so a lot of this is repetitive from here on out,
But I think that will give you an idea. But instead,

(01:30:59):
you know, we have this boohooing for It's like Keith
Runari was just the problem and everyone else was a
victim of him. Let's take a listen. I think some
of what Mark Fazenti has to say on this pushes
this idea that Nancy Salzman, the number two nexiom, was
indeed a victim herself.

Speaker 6 (01:31:21):
Let's take a listen, because I do think that subconsciously
she was feeling a lot of stuff that she just
wasn't allowed to feel. Which is pretty common when people
are being abused. And if you listen to my podcast
Letter to the Inside, that's when I address with her
the way she.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
I got to promote my podcast. I think I think
one of the few people who made almost nobody on
this Everyone's like, get my podcast, my documentary. I think
almost all my videos from court reporting ador I think
almost all of them are demons shut down.

Speaker 6 (01:32:00):
When he was around, and I said something about to
the effect of that it was because she had to
do it in order to not face the horror of
what was actually going on. Dear Nancy, I've told you before,
I believe you have been treated with great cruelty. You
couldn't even take it in, perhaps because you yourself have
come to believe if you acknowledge abuse, you may be

(01:32:22):
demonized as the abuser and further punished. Well, let me
say it on your behalf. I believe you have been
abused in ways you cannot even allow yourself to imagine.
You are in a permanent.

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
I believe she's an abuser and she should be demonized.
That's my position, and is in no way a victim.
She's the number two. What is he talking about? Wake up?
Wake up, Mark Vicente, wake up. This is this is

(01:32:56):
like Keith r Nary level goblygook nonsense.

Speaker 6 (01:33:01):
State of terror. Do you know why you fall asleep
in every single meeting with your Lord and Master. It's
not because you're disintegrated. I think it's because you're trying
to unconsciously check out from the horror what was the
terrible breach slash sin you believe you've committed that makes
you terrified for you?

Speaker 3 (01:33:20):
Or she falls asleep in every every class because Keith
Rnary is boring and he's droning on and she knows
it's a fraud and she just wants her big paycheck.
She's someone who plant out first. Remember that she knew.
She's like, this is a criminal fraud. I better get

(01:33:40):
save myself and get out. The rest of them were like,
we're gonna fight this. We're just misunderstood, Alison mac etc.
We're like, we're going to fight this. It's misunderstood. But
she's like, uh uh, let me plead out before the
superseding indictment and get the least amount of time. This

(01:34:04):
is nonsense, Mark, nonsense.

Speaker 6 (01:34:08):
Your salvation. I just thought you deserve to know who
is pulling the strings behind the curtain, not me. I
am one of the few that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
Not him. Not him. He's not pulling the strings. She
was pulling the strings behind the curtain. With Keith, Rena.

Speaker 6 (01:34:26):
Actually tried to help you see the trap you're in.

Speaker 5 (01:34:29):
So in the early days, I was totally honest with Keith.
So we learned a lot about my depression. I told
him about my relationship problems, and Keith instructed me not
to get into another relationship until I worked my dependency issues.
Then he became very affectionate toward me and made sexual advances.
He abruptly ended our physical relationship, and he asked me

(01:34:51):
to commit to never beginning another relationship with anyone or
getting involved with another man without discussing.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
It with him first.

Speaker 5 (01:35:00):
He hit all of these relationships.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
Right, and then you handed over your own daughters to him.
When I've made come on, we've never heard this before.
You're not allowed to have be with anyone else. You
have to devote yourself to Keith Nary while he's with
everyone else.

Speaker 5 (01:35:25):
Didn't with me, And it wasn't that I wanted to
have a relationship with him, but it always was like,
why did he do that to me?

Speaker 12 (01:35:34):
And I always felt.

Speaker 5 (01:35:35):
Ashamed of it, but it felt worse when he started
having sex with my daughter.

Speaker 11 (01:35:42):
Mom doesn't mind you sleeping me?

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
Well, why didn't you warn your daughter way from him?
Why did you encourage it? They're not dumb, tator, They're
not dumb. It's something else. Don't mistake this for dumbness.
Don't mistake darkness for dumbness.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
Well, that's right.

Speaker 12 (01:36:06):
True.

Speaker 5 (01:36:13):
I had mixed feelings. I felt like, in a way
it was a betrayal, but I also felt like that
maybe it was wrong to feel that way, Like, I mean,
he's he was supposed to be this very ethical person
and she wasn't a child, but she was.

Speaker 3 (01:36:33):
She was out of college. I thought she gave both
her daughters to him, and maybe I'm wrong on that.

Speaker 5 (01:36:48):
After college, she moved back in with me, and Keith
wanted her to move out, and he said I was
keeping her dependent. It was really bad. He convinced her
to move out, and she said immediately he was on her.

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
And isn't your job as a mother to protect your daughter.
Don't mean that that was saying she was your daughter.
It's all Keith's fault.

Speaker 5 (01:37:18):
She said, he just wanted to get me away from
you so he could do that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
Come on, come on, who believes this? She was dying
to have a kid with him, and she was going
to have the you know, because a kid with the
smartest man in the world is going to be like
the Second Coming.

Speaker 9 (01:37:41):
She was destroyed by it, and it's it's it's fucking terrible.
It's like, oh my god, why didn't we just see
how bad it really was. There was always like, well,
he must know better, he must know what he's doing.

Speaker 8 (01:38:01):
He's keith.

Speaker 9 (01:38:06):
I remember having a conversation with him when I was eighteen,
and he wanted me to commit to something, some sort
of something kind of relationship with him that I didn't
know that I.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
Was agreeing to or understood. Right, there's the other daughter.
I was right, okay, here we go, here we.

Speaker 9 (01:38:22):
Go, understood what it was that he was asking. At
some point it became a breach.

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
I broke some So Michelle Salzman is married to the
boy that Daniella got punished for for having feelings for
another man. Is that right, Tony? Thanks for giving us
the inside baseball in this. But you have your two
daughters and they're both involved with this paunchy, middle aged guy.

(01:38:52):
Sort of that you were involved with. It's a family affair.
It's a family affair. It's a family affair. I mean,
what is I mean? I could probably make episodes for
the next year on all the apologists media that has

(01:39:13):
come out about this diabolical and destructive cult. I love
the music un heard.

Speaker 9 (01:39:22):
Wooh commitment to him, and then my relationship with him
was broken forever and I was always supposed to repair it,
and you came after me for twenty years. I have
to repair this, this relationship with Keith, and if I don't,
I don't know what.

Speaker 5 (01:39:40):
He had never liked Michelle, but I didn't realize it
was because she wouldn't have sex with him.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
So who believes that. I have trouble believing that. Pretty
much everybody did. I guess I should have. I mean,
the only way to grow was through this kind of suffering,

(01:40:09):
through this predication by Keith. So I don't know. I
have a hard time believing.

Speaker 12 (01:40:14):
It stole her child bearing years. He practically broke her.
I mean, she went to college, but she was a
baby when she met him. She was not worldly, she

(01:40:37):
was not strong, unlike me.

Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
You really have and that's something that comes up with
Alison Mack. You know she gave up her child bearing
years to Keith or Naary, and I mean, I guess
I don't know what is she going to do? I
have I don't know. IBF, excuse me, IVF, but Frank Mink,
I mean, that's never discussed in this podcast, but you

(01:41:10):
can't miss it. Such a mean's one of the reasons
when your mother introduces you to a man and says
he's safe, and not only safe, that you'll gain things
from him, and grooms you for the cult that you're
starting together. This is one of the reasons why Laurence
Salzman got no prison time. She was groomed into it

(01:41:34):
by her family. In fact, my family badly.

Speaker 12 (01:41:42):
I let that up.

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
She didn't let it happen. She made it happen. She
was a part of it. I couldn't see it. She
couldn't see it. She was getting rich from it. She
had a nursing degree, Nancy Salzman. She was like a

(01:42:09):
small time nurse with a lot of talent in hypnotizing people.
And Keithrinary honed in on her talent and exploited it
for hypnotizing and having undue influence over people. But she

(01:42:34):
was very clever to plead out before the superseding indictment.
It was her daughter who testified so brilliantly against the cult,
not Nancy Salzman. Her daughter gave up the info, and
I'm curious to know what their relationship is like now.

Speaker 5 (01:43:00):
I think it was like an experiment with him. I
started thinking that he enjoyed hurting us. He's wanting to
see how far he could push us.

Speaker 3 (01:43:14):
He enjoyed hurting us, but we didn't enjoy hurting other people. Well,
we'll circle back to this sometimes soon that we've been
going for almost two hours and I have to take
care of my besties cat. So I think I think
we've covered it. Yeah, she had an NLP practice. This

(01:43:37):
was the I believe that's from the vow part two recently, Yeah, recently.
I think it was filmed before she went to prison
for sure time. I think you can see the ankle
bracelet on her bracelet on her anklet. That is what

(01:43:59):
I have for today. Guy, Please set the thumbs up,
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On what I'm saying? Did you know about some of

(01:44:19):
the things in this episode? Let me know. Please support
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Speaker 9 (01:44:53):
My check.

Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
Roberta strides through the static case through crime got the
way the shadows playter place for what's to old when
a spotlight beams fact focused, queen busting, propaganda schemes, glass
shadow lies that goes.

Speaker 1 (01:45:06):
Through the streets, standing for victims, giving voice their meats
and YC Pole's truth Sharpest Night.

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
Referred to exposing She's an anti fried Light partast warrior,
dissecting Satan's defense, twisted innocence, claims, breaking pretense. Gotham's truth

(01:45:34):
Seeker cuts clean with the blade facts in the forefront,
No justice gets swayed. Cold facts drip heavy, real salt,
gun furls, cracking cases open like oysters with pearls. Innocence
gimmicks crumble the dust in the wind for victims. Her
creed justice till the end. Headphones blazing, she drops heavy artillery.

(01:46:04):
Now he just twisted meat, blunt objects.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
Civility.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
Roberta God receipts that unraveled, deploy exposing the lies, These
frauds that just deploy glass shot of lies.

Speaker 1 (01:46:14):
That goes through the streets.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
Standard for victims given voice.

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
Stand meets and Y s pos true shops.

Speaker 3 (01:46:21):
Knight Roberta exposes.

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
She's the anti fraud light

Speaker 7 (01:47:01):
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