ARE GIANTS STILL ROAMING THE PLANET? IF SO, WHERE?

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I believe Robin Haynes will be here for the Cryptid
Q and A. So let's get right to this show
because it's going to be a good one. Christian McLeod
is a dedicated field investigator and researcher with the American
Cryptid and Paranormal Society, known for his boots on the
ground approached on covering the truth behind some of North

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americans most enduring mysteries, specializing encryptids such as Bigfoot and
dog Ben, as well as high strangeness encounters involving UFOs
and the unexplained. Christian combines traditional tracking methods with modern
investigative tools to document evidence in remote wilderness locations. His

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passion for the unknown is driven by first hand experiences
and a relentless curiosity to understand what may be lurking
just beyond the edges of conventional science. We're going to
get to him right now. Christoph mccleoud, the cryptid ghee,
nice to have you here, my friend. How are you?

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Uh some wonderful to be here? Thanks again for having us.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
This is the first time this year I've had my
window open to the studio.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Well, there you go. So what we might have a
we might have a storm blown in. We're not sure.
We gotta see what the weather says. But they're talking
about six inches of snow on the East coast, So
I don't know. We might not have our own that
is open yet my windows are open.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Does all that matters? Well?

Speaker 4 (04:31):
In life?

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Streating me pretty good? Right now? Man. I this past
weekend I tried to get out to Flight twenty one.
We got about three quarters of the way there, oh
more than three quarters, probably seven eighth so the way there,
and we have to we have to like go under
this into this gully. Okay, And so my buddy, my
cameraman Mike and I we pull up and we get

(04:54):
to the spot. Okay, there's still some snow and iced
in the puddles on the trek in. And then we
get to the top of the hill where we got
to go into this gully and I'm looking at it
and I'm like, this just doesn't look safe, but I'm here,
maybe I should try it. But the more I thought

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about it, we sent Mike down the gully, you know,
just to see what the bottom was like. And there's
not really a place to turn around in the gully.
It looks like it when the snow is there, but
there's really no place to turn around, and we decided
against it. It was just too dangerous. So I think
probably another couple of weeks, another couple of weeks we
got to wait for that part of the snow to

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melt before we could get in there.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
Is there an every room to lower a camera down
or anything to see what's down there?

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Well, we walked down there. Well, Mike, not me. I'm
I'm way too lazy for that.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
You got to send in the underlings. That's why.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Well, he's the new guy. You know, we gotta do
all the tests on him.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
You know, I said the drone in there, but that's
just me.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Well, you know that is something that well, you know,
I mean, whatever works, whatever works. But no, we're probably
still a couple of weeks away from getting in there.
So it's too bad because I want to get things
going in there. I want to, you know, because I'm
going to have a brand new team with me. I

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know it's going to take another few weeks or a
couple of months to get the Sasquatch and everybody, everybody,
everything in there used to the new team, you know.
So I want to get started as quickly as possible.
But unfortunately this is just the way it is right now,
and Mother Nature needs to melt your damn snow pretty quick.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
You can't messine with the Nature man. She's still the boss.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
She is totally the boss. Totally the boss. I wanted
to get into before we get into some monster talk.
I know you are very much into UFOs and aliens
and everything like this. I'm still baffled by this story now.
I've talked about it for a couple of days now
on this show, but I wanted to get your opinion

(07:07):
of it because you are are you? I believe you're
a former member of Moufon. I'm current member of Moufon. Okay,
and Matt Gaets, the former Congressman, comes out on the
Benny Johnson Podcast, and then this past weekend on Walter M. Sterling.

(07:28):
Every damn night on WABC, he comes out and says
that the Americans and the military have at least up
to allegedly fourteen bases where they have captured aliens, and
they have allegedly taken people from third world countries, war

(07:53):
torn countries, destitute people, okay, and are actually conducting alien
human he ybrid experiments at these locations. Now, he said
he was told this by a uniform enlisted soldier of
the US Army who said, what you need to do
is you need to send Congress people to each building

(08:15):
all at once. Just show up at fourteen different locations,
knock on the door and say what's going on in here.
That way they don't have an opportunity to move the aliens,
move the people, and cover it up with security. Now,
he did not mention where these bases were. Obviously he's
going to keep that quiet. But I'm just curious, you know,
with you doing the with you doing the investigations on

(08:38):
UFOs as well at being a part of Buffon, how
do you feel about this.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Well, here's the problem I had with this and anyone
that's been in the UFO community as long as you
have as long as I have Christina has, there's no
is that certain faction that comes up with something that

(09:05):
is just so weird that it has to be true
or it's too weird not to be true. And the
problem I have with this one is I trust a guy.
I believe someone said something to him, but when he
said it was for uh uh they were He claims
the goal was to create highbred rays for intergelactic communication.

(09:27):
That excuse just doesn't it. That's weaker than circus lemonade
for me, that doesn't make any sense. Why would we
have to have eyebreads for communication? That just doesn't That
just doesn't hold water for me. I think that maybe
the story is getting askewed, or maybe he's specifically saying
wrong things, or maybe he's just trying to, you know,

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put some light into the darkness over here. But the
excuses he doesn't make it doesn't make sense. And uh,
the one I got it says that gets Gates allegedly
that a uniform usrficer reefed them at six to twelve
facilities or capsure Aliens were forced to breed with humans
abductive from war zones and migrant caravans. That part, to me,
makes subtle sense, because if you're going to grab someone

(10:11):
from a war zone, that's the base. I mean, it's
a war zone. We don't you know, you don't know
who's gonna lie, live or die or And the migrant thing,
I told I can see that happening. I don't have
a problem with the humans aspect of it, where they're
coming from or how they're getting at. And I'm not
saying that's right or wrong, because I believe it's very wrong.
But my point is is that makes sense. But the
reason why they're doing it, to me, makes no sense.

(10:33):
Like if they said they were trying to colonize a race,
like you know in the old X Files, where they
were trying to crossbred with humanity so they could save
their you know, save their race, that I would believe.
But for communication, it just doesn't make any sense to me.
And I believe the guy had. I believe the guy
had to talk with someone. I believe someone sat down
and talking with I mean, I know of three people

(10:54):
right now that are former military, and one of them
was pretty high up an agency, and he told me
just the other day that he remembers having this conversation
with the military when he was getting debriefed, and he
went in some other details, but you know, I'm not

(11:14):
privy to say those. But this is nothing new.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
But we'll get to Christian here momentarily for some reason,
his home in North Carolina. It's not Aliens or anything
like that. I think it's dog Man or Bigfoot that
unplugs his his signal every now and again. But the
interesting part about that is the alleged kidnappings. This is

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what kind of gets me, and this is what honestly
scares me about this entire thing, is these alleged kidnappings
that they are taking people. According to Matt Gates, they
are taking people from third world countries, war torn countries
and kidnapping them allegedly. I have to say allegedly a

(12:05):
lot in order to cover my belt and my butt
so that way I don't get in trouble allegedly, because
this story, if real, is absolutely horrific. I mean, the
fact that they could be kidnapping people allegedly Christian from

(12:27):
any other country. I mean, there's that adds a whole
different realm of questions. Where are these alleged people coming from?

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Which I want, But what's the endgame of it? I mean,
even if they are, let's just say they land somewhere
like in Indonesia or in Bali, or places that haven't
been explored yet by humanity. All right, they could go
there and grab human beings that have no contact with
modern humanity and basically start from scratch if they wanted to.
But again, my question is why are they doing this,

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what's the endgame and are they really doing this to,
you know, communicate or are they looking for biological ways
to get rid of us.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
Well, not to put it into a TV show context,
but in the TV show Resident Alien, the Grays had
to make hybrids so that they could survive in this atmosphere.
They could survive with Earth's gravity and atmosphere. For that's
not communicate, that's not what's being said. But what if

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the communication means they need to be able to go
both places, and only a hybrid could survive both places.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
You can communicate that. You're telling me they can turn
it now, that's ridiculous. They can go some they can
go light speed, they can go has speed the light.
They can travel the stars and not break the or
not worry about the space time continuum.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
But they need to breed with humanity so they can
communicate with humanity.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
That's ridiculous. Their technology so far advanced that that doesn't
hold water either. Nice thought, but it's not. It's not
even approachably accurate. They're doing something else. This is all
a cover up for something. I honestly believe this like
this is a biological away to make war on humanity.
It couldn't want to destroy the planet. They just they
don't want to think about. There's only a couple of

(14:09):
ways to get rid of us. You can nucas, or
you can poison us. You can do whatever, but then
you would what damage do you do to the ecosystem?
They're trying to find a way. In my opinion, this
is nothing but trying to find a way to get
rid of humanity.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
I'm destroying the planet or doing a whole lot of
damage in the planet.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
It could be that, or it could be simply that
they are trying to get the communication going, which doesn't
make sense to me either, by the way, But my question,
and what kind of irritates me a little bit, is
the idea of where are these alleged people coming from
number one, number two? How long are they there for?

(14:49):
At number three? After let's say they are done with them,
what do they do with them? Okay, do they.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Say exactly are they? Are they in society now? Are
they walking around like regular people? I mean, how do
we tell?

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Are they deceased so that.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
They took to breed? Are they letting them go some?
Are they killing them when they're done?

Speaker 3 (15:10):
I mean my guess is they're probably just killing them.
I mean, what good would you, I mean, want my
bother keeping them around? You've got the DNA and this
next doc.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well, but I mean, these are questions that we can
all allege, but we need to find answers. And the
unfortunate part about that is a topic as sensitive as this.
If Matt Gates is telling the truth, and for the
sake of the conversation, let's say he is, this opens

(15:40):
up a lot of laws being broken.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Man, we're talking we're talking international, we're talking about is
US laws, We're talking laws against humanity. We're talking war crimes, right,
they are war crimes. That's what this is.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
But I mean, let's let's expand this out. Allegedly, if
these people are going, are they taking adults, are they
taking seniors? Are they taking children? Okay, but this all
goes back.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Well, you can go back as far as you want.
But Courso in his book The Day after Roswell, he's
talked about this. He said, this is exactly what they
were doing. And he said there was nothing we can
do about it, simply because we don't have the technology
to fight back. So we basically had to lay back
and let it happen. This has been going on since Roswell.
This has been going on since before Roswell. So my

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question is not only why is it taken so long?
What are they really doing? And then what are they
doing with the aftermath? In other words, if they are crossberrying,
where are these things? And what are they going to
do with them? You know?

Speaker 6 (16:38):
Or do they look human enough they can pass?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
And then they're living amongst us? Now, I mean, you know,
how many people, how many how many people like even
look at Bigelow, you know, he says aliens live among us.
Now elon Musk, he says, aliens live among us. These
guys are in the know. Are they just being you know?
Are they clowning around with us? Are they being honest?
You know? I was a huge, huge fan of Robert Bigelow.

(17:02):
I still am, uh the stuff he do is pioneering.
And I'll be honest with you. I used to call
that man's office once a week try get a podcast
done with him or an interview with him. I used
to know the lady's name, you know. She said, is
this Christian? I'm being asks man. She says, yeah, he's
still not here. I said, all right, I cost you
next week. But but my point is is if people
like that are saying, hey, there's aliens among us that've

(17:25):
been here, what are you gonna do? You know that
that's a concern right there, because now what does that
do to the political upheal? Are they? You know, are
they you know, running secret cabals with secret societies? Is
all that true? Are all those crazy you know, uh
thoughts about you know, certain areas being run by the

(17:46):
globe running by you know, the saying reptilians or something
like that. I mean that gives clearance to all that.
So if one of those is true, all of that's
possibly true.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
And that's the point. Now this opens up to disclosure, okay,
because if Matt gets once again is telling the truth.
And I have to repeat that over and over because
I don't want to get into any trouble here.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Well, you have to because if it isn't, if we
don't know, we don't.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Have But if he is telling the truth, this is
where like our show at least has been trying to
teach our audience for a number of years. Now, what
is disclosure to you? Do we want the soft controlled
disclosure that the government wants to give us. That is

(18:35):
not healthy because whatever they do, they're going to be
skipping out and hiding stories like this alleged one or
whether or not Eisenhower traded humans for technology back in
the early nineteen fifties, or whether Bobblesar worked at Area
fifty one, or whether people who are being taken that
it is alleged that there may be a list of

(18:57):
names that they have of people and list could be
in the tens of thousands of people who have been taken.
This is going to open up absolutely everything. That is
what disclosure is. Just let me finish here, Let me
finish here for a quick second, because that to me
is disclosure. Talking about a threat narrative where there's only

(19:22):
one country in the world that considers this a threat,
which is the United States. No other country has come
out with the threat narrative. In fact, they stop talks
with Canada on it a couple of years ago because
Canada did not want to play along with the threat narrative.
Neither did the UK, Australia or any of the other

(19:46):
five eyes regarding this subject. So we could do it
that way, but we're cheating ourselves from what disclosure truly is.
Or if we're going to talk disclosure, let's just rip
the band aid on often see what's actually there.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Christian, I totally agree with that. But the problem is
is you've got so many things that have been told
to us and so many lies over the years. Okay,
take for example, how many scientists are missing. They just disappeared.
That Malaysia flight that disappeared. We still don't know what
happened to. We might have found a piece of it
years ago, but we still don't have There were seven
of the most prominent scientists on the planet on that flight.

(20:24):
Is that doesn't sound a little quinkiniky? Look at how
many physicists are disappearing, you know, just all these high
ranking science and physicals. They're vanishing off the face of
the Earth and we don't know where they're going. So
how do we know if this isn't connected, are these
the guys that could literally find out why all this
is happening and then to eliminate the full disclosure?

Speaker 6 (20:45):
These people are taking down the equation.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
I mean, there's so many questions that can't be answered,
and how many you think, right, you gotta get the
truth at anyone, No, so many of these things. Unless
the UFO lands in front of the White House and says, hey,
let's just talk about this and let everyone know what's
going on so we're all on the same page, it's
just not going to happen. And why didn't just give
full disclosure beach Main, Because you know, I understand if

(21:08):
they did that real quick, or they just say okay,
hey this is it, of course you'd have your your
religious institution rebellion, and then you have the people losing it.
But eventually it's all going to calm down and everyone's
going to realize that, hey, this is what's.

Speaker 6 (21:21):
Going on, and now we have to you know, accept
and adapt.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Well, Jeff in our chat room, we can do. Jeff
in our chat room says, why would anyone give Matt
Gates and those other politicals true information? You think they
would give it more to credible people than them. Well,
the problem is a lot of people, if we take
this verbatim, a lot of people still believe in the government.

(21:47):
Not everybody is a conspiracy theorist like us. Okay, and
that's what we are. Be proud of it. Where the tag,
where the tinfoil, Be proud of it. Okay, they conspiracy theorists.
It's not what it was twenty five thirty years ago. Today,
it's about getting questions answered to, tough questions of secret things. Okay,

(22:09):
that's why you know, annapolinea Luna allegedly has her conspiracy
club right where they're going into JFK and aliens and
everything else. But the point is, let's just say this.
There are still people who believe that a politician is
there to do good, and I think deep down a
lot of them really do want to more in the

(22:32):
Congress than in the Senate. There are some greedy ones.
Let let's not cover it up. Let's you know, let's
not just throw a shade over it. There are some
greedy ones that are right there for themselves. Maybe they're
worth a couple hundred grand, and in ten years they're
gonna be worth two hundred million seems to happen that way.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
But Dansy Gelosi, there you go.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
But when you look at it, let's just say verbatim
that this guy, this Army listed man, the soldier came
in and this story is true. He probably didn't have
anywhere to turn, saw that Matt Gates was his representative,
saw that it was something that he had dealt with,

(23:14):
didn't like what he dealt with, didn't Maybe he didn't
like what he saw or it heard, and decided to
do something about it the only way he knew how
where he could keep his identity quiet, where he could
make something happen. Maybe it's just as simple as that.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
I mean, that sounds good to me because he was
a Florida so the guy might have been from Florida.
But I mean, you know, you're supposed to be able
to trust your public officials. It's like, you know, sometimes
you watch those cops shows, and you can't trust the cops.
Local cops. They gotta get the Feds out. You gotta
break down the Fed. Maybe he had any your ups,
all right, Maybe it was a situation like that and
he's just talking to his congressman. He thinks, okay, now

(23:51):
he can fix this. But you know, this guy's got
to have access to these fourteen or twelve or fourteen
different areas. He's got, you know, like he's gonna have
the address in his phone book, So how's he gonna
get that? Is just even by releasing this, all he's
done is open the door to more questions and less answers.
That's all he's done.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
And on that note, on that note, I'm gonna get
you guys to hold on. We have Christina, we have Christian.
They are the cryptid couple here for chasing down monsters
on spaced out radio. When we return, we're going to
get into some of those monsters because Christian is on
the hunt, always on the hunt. This is spaced out radio.

(24:53):
There we go. We're clear. I love that picture. I
can never get enough of that picture. All right, Brent Fillery,
welcome to sar chat. We're in Canada? Are you my friend?
Let me know? Maybe you're a neighbor. I'm in BC.
He'll billy herb. How you doing? Who else has showed

(25:19):
up here? Terry Hall? Your mustache looks impeccable. Can't wait
to see it on camera tomorrow night. Pre blown. How
you doing well, great comment, pre blown. I hate that
we still don't know enough to get past this part
of the conversation. They will never come clean exactly, that's

(25:44):
the point. That's the point, you know.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
That's the biggest heartbreaker of all. Honestly, you know that
it's the one thing. It's like they just can't be
honest about the one thing.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Just tell us that absolutely.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
And here's my question, why is it that, like all
these governments all agree on absolutely no disclosure, but we can't.
We're still having, you know, problems in gods and things
like that. How is this possible? That makes no sense
to me.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
That's for a different show, on a different conversation.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
I know, but it's just ridiculous. I know, we can
agree on one thing, I know, keep our people stupid, but.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Well, I mean, one of the things that I find
interesting is you get everybody out there who says, don't
trust the government, don't believe the government. But when it
comes to UFOs, the government's telling one hundred percent of
the truth, it's like, come on, well.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
And you know, honestly, because even God forbid, they know
about them, and let's just say, haven't bid. There's scared
of them let's just say that the government is scared
of these adiens. And again I keep quoting Corso's book
Toda after Roswell, because it's been everything in that book
has been one hundred percent accurate. Everything he said, what's
going to happen, happen. He even predicted this, He said, eventually,

(27:04):
thank you. I said, Eventually you got politicians coming out
and saying, hey, yeah, we know about these things, but
this is all we know, and we don't have the
whole story. And that's happening now. And eventually, you know,
the story's going to have to come out. But how
bad is everyone going to look? I mean, what kind
of faith are we going to have in the system
when they finally have to tell the truth? Or we
look up and there's you know, ten or twelve Superstar

(27:25):
Destroyers up there and we don't know what their intentions are.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Well, you and I, you and I will agree to
disagree on that, okay, And and let me tell you
why they wouldn't have waited if they've been coming here
for thousands of years, they wouldn't have waited to take
us over until we got it technologically advanced. They would
have got us with boat when we had bows and
arrows and spears, that's when they would have got us everywhere.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Meanor oh, I don't.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Know, Jeff Harding, welcome to us, to our chat.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
She's right.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
Maybe they didn't need that, Maybe they didn't need the
territory or whatever.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
That disagree, disagree, They would have taken us out by now.
F you ZADDI, How you doing, buddy? Caged on the inside?
How you doing?

Speaker 3 (28:14):
And I think they were looking for stuff they might neither.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
I like the theory and the one theory that I
do buy into, Jessica McCreery, how are you is when
you have these these people, these really pure, honest contact,
these that are out there, when they when they sit
there and they tell you that that the reason why
the aliens haven't landed on the White House lawn is

(28:41):
maybe they're not allowed to because they do believe we
are way too violent for what they want to do.
Astro fugitive, how you doing? That makes more sense to
me than flying all over the universe and just stopping there.
I don't want to believe people like Tom DeLong who
say we got a new com we got a new

(29:01):
com we got to put nukes up in space and
shoot them out. They're afraid of our nukes. Really, they're not.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Afraid of our Take the two seconds heard of our nukes.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
It's like watch it, you know what it's like watching
these You know, I love the Marvel movies, but it's
like when they talk about protecting the Earth, we don't
have the tech. You guys have the technology we don't have.
They can superinvent, circumvented, and then we have and you
know another thing I kind of agree with you on
on some of that because why would you and I've
said this before, you know how I feel about this,

(29:32):
why would you want humanity out there in the galaxy
or in the universe. What good do we provide?

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Exactly?

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Destore everything.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
We're like a bad We're like a bad toe fungus.
We're like the gout of the universe.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
We are we are, we are the you know we
are We're the jock of the galaxy.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
And on that note, on that note, guys, a big
shout out to Jaron's Carter. Was it your birthday today? Jarones?

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Happy birthday.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
If it is, We're going to sing happy birthday to
you the next half hour. Thank you to Dutch Hank,
Mickey Kitty and Lil Cam for the super chats. It's
a wonderful way to support what we do on this
show on a nightly basis. And here we go. Here

(30:35):
comes the second half hour a spaced Out Radio. Good
to have you with us. My name is Dave Scott.
We're chasing down monsters and giants with Christian McLeod the
Cryptid Gee and his lovely assistant Christina. Good to have
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(30:56):
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(31:20):
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Encryptidi Paranormal Society based out of somewhere in the Carolinas
near the Appalachian Mountains, where Christians sometimes will run around
in his underwear saying I'm a werewolf. I'm a werewolf.

(31:43):
Good to have you, guys back. Thank you twice a month,
twice a month. Beautiful, absolutely beautiful. You wanted to get
into giants tonight? You wanted to get into giants tonight?

Speaker 3 (31:56):
I did. I'd loved you. And here's why I'm.

Speaker 7 (32:01):
A huge, huge fan. I don't know if you've read this,
but I don't know if you guys have see this.
This is the Genesis sixth Conspiracy by Gary Wayne. This
guy is brilliant. I hope one day you can have
him on the show.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
This guy's broning. He took thirty years to write this book,
and he's he's a biblical scholar. And what he's done
is he kind of correlates all the giants in history
with the Nephilim, and he goes back and proves it biblically.
And this is one of the reasons I'm such a
firm believer in the netphlum and things of that nature.
But all comes from Garry Wayne. He's just he's a genius.

(32:35):
But I think you can also all of our modern
sightings and everything like that. I think you can also
correlate them with flum specifically bigfoot, things of that nature,
maybe even dog man, you know, if you take that back,
you know, I also believe in natural creature. But I
think they start off as an film. I think they
were offshoots in the ne film, and I think over

(32:55):
the generations they've just lost some of their abilities. And
I think that would even explain the food food you
believe in with Bigfoot about you know, they're going into
different dimensions and things like that. That woo woo foo
foo what I'll call what I want to want to
call it. Thank you and you thank you for correcting
me on air. That's how I learned. Anyway, I think

(33:16):
that that's how at all. It's all inclusive. And I
think just over the generations, they've just lost some of
that ability and some still have it, and I think
that explains why they do these things that they do.
But I also think it all comes from the fact
that they were Neflin. Now, I know there's one hundred
million different reasons people disagree with that, but when you
start looking at the giants in the Bible, I mean,

(33:37):
there's thirty three that they named in the Bible. You know, oh,
my god, David, his brothers, you know, all these Gliathe Yeah,
I'm sorry, Gliath his brothers, all these different giants that
have been named in different places over the centuries. But
what happened to him? Did we kill them all? Did
the Israelites kill them all? I don't think so. I

(33:57):
think a lot of them went underground.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Like one on I.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Think Christine's going to talk about is the giant of Kandahar.
To me, that's still a fascinating topic because we have
never gotten any real information on that. No, I know,
you know all about that. I'm sure most of your
listeners are smart enough to have picked up on that overuse.
But we keep getting more and more information off of that.
I think it's because as time goes by, people want

(34:21):
that information and they're less afraid of losing clearance and
things like that. Because it was what twenty twelve now
tw twpens, yeah, two and two when it happened in
the twenty sixteen when the interview, Yeah, twenty sixteen, when
the interview came out. So, I mean, you know, that's
a big space of time. So I doubt any of
those people are active military right now, probably retired, so

(34:41):
you know, maybe that's why we get this information ut
But I think the Candahar Giant is a prime example
of why none of this stuff has really discussed because
it's actually a scary story. And anytime you mentioned giants
in the historic narrative, even in the North American U
just population giants are unfriendly they you know, there's even

(35:04):
a point in you know, at one point in time
the Chalked Donation, they actually fought with Bigfoot to keep
the redhead of giants on the western side of the Mississippi.
You know. So there's there's all these stories that have
gone out over the years and and all this mythology.
So when you've got that much, some's got to be true.
I mean, it's just one of these things that not
everyone can make and everyone's gonna follow the same narrative.

(35:27):
But I definitely believe that it's all as biblical, and
that's where you can trace all these all the Nephlin
can be pretty much the source of what we call
Bigfoot and other things today sasquatch, unless it truly is
a North American primeate or you know, even you know,
a leftover from gighan epithecus. But that wouldn't explain why

(35:47):
it's so intelligent and why there's so many reports about
it just playing, vanishing and things of that nature.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
I think that one of the big questions we need
to answer is what is a giant like?

Speaker 2 (35:58):
To me?

Speaker 1 (35:59):
At five at eight and three quarters, Shaquille O'Neal at
seven foot one is a giant? Okay?

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (36:06):
You know a lot of these NBA players could be
considered giants. I mean, there's only been one person in
history that's come close to nine feet and that and
that was I believe the gentleman was eight foot ten.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
No, I agree. My thing is anything. I always forg
your giants ten foot up, that's just me ten foot up.
That's That's what I'm calling a giant. I'm giving it
a measurement. You want any unanswered? What ground floor?

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Well, well, I mean when we look at it, I mean,
let me ask you this, then, why do so many
cultures describe giants independently across the world, yet we don't
seem to have any physical proof of them.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Well, I will tell you this right now. I'm a
firm live. This all falls into the the government stuff
they don't want us knowing.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
The Smithsonian Institute when they were building the Battery Park
hotel in Ashville, allegedly it was on a ninety foot
Cherokee mount and three days into the bulldozing they started
finding skeletons and human remains that were eight to nine
foot tall, and then they shut down for three days.
The Smithsonian gets here, they bring in their own train

(37:22):
and their own cars, and they pretty much fill up
three or four cars of their own uh antiquities, and
then disappear and then they continue construction. So why would
they do that? You know, it's just they're keeping peop
they don't want people to know, you know. And what
if what if it's true that, you know, uh antidiluvian

(37:42):
giants or in Antarctica, you know, and and all that's
all that stuff you hear about is what if all
that's true? I mean, what do we you know, what's
what's the basic premise for all that? You know, it's
it's the same concept. It's the same thing, you know,
since they've been talking about they want global domination. So
I mean, how would how would that work? You know?
I mean, how are you going to have a giant

(38:03):
being a globally dominant if they don't have you know,
the Noah how or the technology. I mean, is is
it alien?

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Now?

Speaker 3 (38:12):
At that point?

Speaker 6 (38:13):
I mean, you know, are they from here? Or are
than the flum or are there something else?

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Now? So there's all these different windows that open up
when you start looking into this, because the truth of
matters we don't know, because you're right, what consists? What?
What is this? What's the criteria to be a giant?
Is it six toes, six fingers, six toes? You know?
Is it double rows of teeth? You know?

Speaker 6 (38:33):
Is it nocturnal vision? I mean, what what is it
that happened?

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Is right there? It is?

Speaker 5 (38:41):
That's the criteria.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
That's the one. That's the one, folks.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
No, but I understand with what you're saying. But once again,
you know, I'm gonna play Devil's advocate here. They are
stories about the Smithsonian, and what I don't understand is, look,
we were very, very very forthright about dinosaurs. We were
very forthright about you know, other creatures that were out there.

(39:07):
It doesn't make sense to hide these giant humanoids or
nephilim or whatever they may be. Nephelim obviously is a
little bit more biblical, but you could get away with
them by calling them giant apes or or whatever. It
may be some sort of hominid. Maybe it is Bigfoot.
Maybe we came from Bigfoot. I don't know, but it

(39:29):
doesn't make sense to hide the fact that they the Smithsonian,
because we always want to blame this Smithsonian on this
and nobody else, because that's who we blame in this field.
There is no proof that they have it.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
But there's no proof they don't have it true. So
I mean, again, you're general with an institution that is
literally every Lovelock cage who came in Smithsonian, you know,
Ohio mounds, who comes in Smithsonian. You know when they
found the alleged giants in Tennessee, who comes in Smithsonian.

(40:08):
It's it's you know, you can't just blame one agency
without having you know, all these all these years and
all these decades. But I have some kind of proof,
you know. I will tell you. I've read the newspaper
article when the Smithsonian came to Ashville while they were thinking.

Speaker 6 (40:23):
It's literally it's a blurb and that's it.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
And to this day, I don't know what to do
with my copy of it.

Speaker 6 (40:29):
I'm sure it's somewhere on here or somewhere, but you
just don't know.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
I mean, frankly, I don't. I could see it. Why.
It would be a perfect place for them to do it,
because they have the research and they have the ability
for doctors and higher ups in the education field to
look at these things and scrutinize them and maybe analyze
whether or not they're a throat or not. I think
all this boils down to it. Honestly, it all boils

(40:52):
down to safety, it really does. Let's just say that,
let's just say bigfoots in flum and certain bigfoot can
then do that dimensional rifk you think they can do,
or they can they can just disappear like Robin says
they can do, or they can mind speak. I can't
believe I'm saying that. All right, let's just say that
ridiculous stuff is possible. Well, wouldn't you want to research

(41:13):
that and find out how to not only be able
to do it, but to counter around it if you
had to. And that's where the government comes into play.
Government's got one job, and it's keep its people safe. And
by keeping us safe, that means keeping technology away from us.
That could close a harm, you know, to the greater population.

(41:33):
I mean, what if what if these Egyptians? Uh, you know,
what if what if all the Egyptian although all the
pyramids were built by giants, and they weren't built as pyramids,
but they were like the nuclear reactors some people think
they were. And we get all that technology and we
find it all and it's a thousand years in advanced
and where we are now, we're just gonna play catch up.

(41:54):
What are we going Who's gonna be trusted with that technology?
If not the governments of the world, they're not gonna
let you mean, you think they're gonn call Elon and say, hey, man,
you want to build some lightsabers? Me a test a lightsaber.
You know it's not gonna work that way. That the
Gunment's gonna hoard all that technology. And I think that's
why they keep everything secret, specifically where it comes these giants,
Because what if we're at the point now with the DNA,

(42:15):
you know, we can create whatever we want in the DNA.
You know, we can on the custom babies already talking
about that. Well, what if you inject you know, the
nephlim DNA in there, you know, So now what's talking.
You basically have like Star Trek two wrath of contact,
people being made that are faster, smarter, more agile, bigger,
live longer, you know, than the rest of us. And

(42:38):
you don't think they're gonna want to take over. That's
just the way it's gonna be. So, I mean, this
whole thing could be just a protective measure too. We
just don't know. I mean, it's fun to speculate, but
the truth is there's very few people who know.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
All right, let's move on to another question here that
I have for you, because I'm actually prepared for this.
So what's the difference between giants? Said, somebody liked Andre
the Giant or somebody like that who had gigantism.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
But that's a genetic flaw. So that means it's in
our DNA. So you know, maybe it's an offshoot or
where we were, you know, one hundred and ten thousand,
you know, ten thousand years ago, one hundred thousand years ago,
maybe humans were bigger. Maybe we maybe we did evolved
from Gigantopithecus and we started shrinking. I don't know. I

(43:26):
mean that that I'm not a genetic system.

Speaker 5 (43:29):
But the I mean, the difference has to be that
they're both that they're consistently born that way and it's
not just a one in a and a group kind
of occurrence.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Well, I mean they've made a good point, you know,
I think people are getting bigger.

Speaker 6 (43:44):
Yeah, look at it. Look at all the people.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Look at the NBA now as composed to you know
it was back in the eighties. Yeah, look at all
the people pushing seven foot now than there were you know,
thirty years ago. You know, I mean, I also think
people are getting bigger. So maybe it's just maybe he's
a genetic advitation, that's that's advanced. Maybe he's just you know,
he's further advanced on the on the line than we are.

(44:08):
You know, we don't know it. You know, they say
that the the Aliens that they're basically you know, they
look like they're you know, the big, big white Nordics.
They're supposedly from Earth originally and then they evolved into that.
But look, they're all seventy foot tall and you know,
you know, pretty I mean, maybe that's what's supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
I'm not a big basketball fan, but just to kind
of go over the average height in the NBA right
now is six foot seven. Out of all the players
in the NBA, there are between thirty and thirty nine
players that are seven feet plus.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
But that's a lot of people. And how many people
are in the.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
NBA, Well, there's what thirty two teams at fifteen a roster.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
All right, So yeah, but and then divide that by
that's their deviation. That's still a pretty good percentage of
people seven foot ninn Yeah, you know, compared to where
it was. Where was it thirty years ago?

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Probably more in that six foot five, six foot six.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Six three, six four? How tall was Larry Bird? Larry
Bird was like the tall he was a giant his time.
He was a six four or six five. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Well, I mean Kareem Abdul Jabbar was seven feet you know.

Speaker 6 (45:20):
No, you're right, but Kareem was the Yeah, but he
was the only one back then.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Well, there was a couple, not not many.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
I'm saying is I just think people have grown. I
think that's the evolutionary status we're in either way.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
You know, let's talk about one of the more famous
recent stories, the Kandahar Giant. Yeah, now, go ahead, Christina.

Speaker 5 (45:47):
They the candy Hard Giant was an event that happened
in two thousand and two. Allegedly happened in two thousand
and two. There's no proof, but I believe it from
what I've read and from what I've read from these interviews.
It happened when during the operation and during Freedom went

(46:09):
in the Kandahart Province when the US invaded Afghanistan. During
this invasion and conflict, there was a group of soldiers
that went missing while on patrol in the remote mountain
region in Kandahar in the south of Afghanistan. These group

(46:33):
went missed, completely missing. Nobody knew where they were. They
lost communication with them, and they sent out a group
to go look for them up in the mountains. What
they fairly found was a cave with scattered army equipment
all around it, some of it broke in, some of

(46:55):
it usable, some of it but of multiple guys equipped
all over the place and uniforms, but no sign of
the missing soldiers. And then the giant came out of
the cave and a Special Ops unit. He actually threw
a spear allegedly and killed one of the Special Ops

(47:15):
guys on this te On this recon team to search
for this unit, they never found any of the missing unit.
Not one of those bodies was ever recovered. But they
had to fire on this giant for thirty seconds with
their fifty caliber weapons to actually bring him down. The

(47:39):
first tales of him that probably the most accurate, are
the giant was about thirteen feet tall, had red hair,
six fingers on each hand, and two rows of teeth,
kind of like.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
A you know, sounds like you're describing Christian.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Were too far off.

Speaker 5 (48:04):
As the tale was told to other soldiers and you know,
spread around, of course, things got exaggerated, and some of
the people described it as fifteen feet with leather moccasins,
and they added a detail who knows whether this, you know,
is actually true, but that he smelled like dead bodies.
He smelled like deco. And what happened was this story

(48:32):
these guys were made to sign a five year a
non disclosure agreement that they couldn't talk about it for
five years even after they got out of the military,
total non disclosure on this. Then it got classified and
they were told they can't speak about it ever, so

(48:52):
it got word of mouth around the military, and they
knew they weren't supposed to tell anybody nobody's supposed to
tell anybody, but a group of them decided people need
to know this. We can't keep this secret. And one
of them that called himself mister K, did an interview
on YouTube in twenty sixteen and told the story, and

(49:17):
that was the first time that it was publicly aired.
After that, mister K, the same person was interviewed by
La Marzuli and talked about the Nephlum and agreed that
it probably was something like that, but the story is incredible.

(49:40):
And oh and they actually mister K said that they
loaded the body on a helicopter after as soon as
they had dispatched it that the military. US military came
in helicopter, picked up the body of the giant. It

(50:00):
took it away who was never seen again. Nobody knows
what they did with it, not even the special ops
team that's supposed to have the highest clearance, which is
what mister K is supposed to do.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
The room was worn't another, right, pat That's what rumors
at Patterson with all the roswell start right.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
I will say this, I've had troubles. This is one
of those stories I want to believe. I really want
to believe this, but I've had troubles with it. The
reason why is when I first heard that story, it
was a group of US Army rangers who went in
there and discovered this. And I happen to have a
friend who served near that time in Kandahar who was

(50:45):
a US Army ranger, and I asked him about this story, saying, hey,
did you ever hear this story about the Kandahar Giant?
And he's like no, no, And yet he was Special
Forces Army ranger. Now I don't think he was playing

(51:05):
me just because it was a it was a private
conversation and he's, you know, not really into this kind
of stuff. But I think something like that where even
if his if his fellow soldiers would have had that
interaction with it, I think he would have heard about it,
considering he was there around that time. So I struggle

(51:28):
with this story. I want to believe it. Like I
said it, you know, it's like it's like the story
of the Anubis dogs that were you know, found by
a US troop slashing Taliban people with their giant swords.
These were eight nine feet dogs. They were wearing armor
and they had the big skythe type swords that they

(51:51):
were you know, the Mediterranean type swords or the big
hooks on the end of them. You know. I want
to believe that story too, you know, because I do
believe there is some high strangeness happening in those mountains.
But I I it's hard though, when when we're going
off of rumors. But I guess that's what we do,

(52:12):
and that's that's always our starting point, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Well, sometimes rumors, you know, that's they they're based in truth.
You know, I'm a heuge. You know what's funny is
I I didn't know you had a run with a ranger.
I was doing a UFO para con maybe eight ten
years ago, and this topic came up and I was
it was a question they asked. I was asked by

(52:36):
a question. I was asked the question. I said, was
I believe in the Canaheart Giant? And I said, yes,
I was. I still am. And when I got off stage,
you know, you do your thing, and I went back
to my booth, and about forty five minutes later, this
guy comes, the older guy. You can tell he was
former military just by his you know, he's still a
really good shape. Yeah, he had like his M sixty

(52:56):
five jacket, just a real cool guy. And he walked up.
He goes, so you think the Canahat Giant's true? And
I said, yes, sir. He goes, You're right, it is true.
He goes. I was in Afghanistan when they found that thing,
he goes, and I was. I was in the airport
when they put it on the C thirty one Hercules
and sent to right pat he said, he goes. Everyone
and that whole base knew exactly what was going on

(53:18):
because they when they dropped it, they didn't have it
completely covered. The tarpa shifted during the movement when it
was in the helicopter and the cargo net, so the
tarpa shifted, and when they dropped it, they pretty much
just put it down in the middle of the base
because they wanted I guess that was the safest place
to put it. And then they had everyone moving and

(53:38):
grooving and then they put it in a hangar, but
it was it was exposed for probably five to seven minutes,
and that was the story I was told. I have
no proof this is a true story. I believe the
guy because he definitely looked military. He knew all the
he knew the talk. He knew the lingo, he knew everything,
and he did specifically mention that pilot's name. Uh. And

(54:01):
I'm not you know, I'm not a liberty to mention
that right now, but I'll talk to you offline. But
allegedly you know that he said the pilot same and
that's the name I've heard several times. So I again,
I don't know. I believe it's true, just because I mean,
it's a perfect place for them to hide.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
And like I said, I want that story to be true.
I totally totally want it to be true. It would
be nice if people like that came out and talking
about it when.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
You're worried about, you know, getting an accident or losing
your pension or anything like that. It's again, you don't
you can cross anyone but the irs and the federal goverment.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
And on that note, we're going to go to break here.
At the top of the hour, we're gonna continue Giants
and Monster Talk with Christian McLeod and Christina from American
Cryptid to Paranormal Society.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
Is spaced out Break Hew with Hopes Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Yeah, all right, guys, we are clear. I'm gonna put
you in the back for a few minutes, and we
got about five and a half minutes. Okay, all right,
be right back, guys, the cryptied g such a cryptied g.

(59:00):
H all right, I am back. Let us go like

(59:47):
this and let's bring in the gee. How you doing.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Hollo lougi lugie.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
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Galimatius is your password. Use it wisely, space Travelers, as
the Clam says the password each and every night right
here on spaced Out Radio, each and every month, we
have Christian McLeod and Christina come in from the American
cryptied At Paranormal Society. They are based out of the
Carolinas near the Appalachian mountains. Is it Appalachian or Appalachian?

Speaker 6 (01:02:36):
I got Appalachian, but I remember I was I'm a Yankee, so.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
That's how I pronounced it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
All right, Well that's where they're from, and they chase
down all monsters and legends, and tonight we're talking about
giants giants, And right before the break, we were talking
about the giants of Kandahar. But over time, people and
almost every society is out there. Christian has had legends
of giants. They've portrayed them as magical at times, they've

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portrayed them as evil. They've portrayed them as everything we
could think of. It's really hard to kind of decipher
what they are if we if we have so many
different renderings of them, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
But you can look at the composite on all cultures
and they're all pretty much gonna say it definitely evil.
Where are you from?

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
Param marph pronounced it hills.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Yes, Parah marvh Nos. I'm not arguing Para marv. But
none of none of the stories are ever. They're never nice,
you know, I mean, these are not good entities. They're
raither trying to eat us, destroy us, or rule us.
So it never ends out well for anyone being having
a giant run in or running out with giants. I've

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never read any any folklore where that ends well for anyone.
The good ones the giants don't have a good ending. No,
But that's feel far between. I mean you've got I
mean even South America. You know the stories that natives
having the jungle of giants, and all they were ever

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trying to do is run from them so they won't
get eaten, you know, or destroyed or killed for no reason.
So I just I don't think giants have ever either
been inherently good globally. And one of the reasons for
that is again I go back to the Nephlim thing
where they they want to They just have this in
born instinct that they want to rule or kill Maymond destroyed,

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and that's all they want to do. So I mean
that doesn't you know, that doesn't bode well for the
rest of us.

Speaker 5 (01:04:43):
Or they see us as a different species, They see
us the way we see cattle as food.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
So would you consider would either of you then consider
bigfoot to be part of the giants category?

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
You know what it depends on. Uh. On the big foot,
I think you know they have individual I think they're
just like this. I think they have their own personalities.
I think you got good ones and they think got
bad ones. And I think that's the same thing where
dog men'sinocephali. I honestly think that's why you have so
many people that disappear in the the wilderness and then

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on the trails and things like that, because I think
you have that subgroup of bigfoot or dog men that
just look at us like we're cattle, and they just
they see this in the boom. That's it. It's lunch
with them.

Speaker 5 (01:05:37):
In the giants category, I would say that they're not
Giants are almost inherently a threat and bad, whereas bigfoot
can be a threat or not and most likely mostly
not same with Doug Man. Mostly they don't do any harm.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
I mean, I definitely think they're a different thing. And
what you when you look over the global aspect of
all these giants and all the sightings, for some reason,
all the mean ones are redheaded, Like there are these
redheaded giants with the six fingers, six toes, a double
rows of teeth. Why would you have double rows of teeth?
That makes that's terrifying. I mean that's it's like a
great white shark. So I mean, I don't I don't

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understand why they would have that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
But it's like they're genetically another species.

Speaker 8 (01:06:22):
I mean, well, I mean, I just like I said,
I'm I was reading comments and I just I think sometimes,
you know, I think it's it's misconception.

Speaker 9 (01:06:33):
But how much, how much, how much proof do we
have that giants even existed if it's not from the
biblical texture, you know, just storytelling or past mythologies.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
I mean, we don't have any modern ones. Every once
in a while, see it, like a YouTube blurb, there'll
be like a giant grabbing a horse in the Grand
Canyon then disappear into a cave or something like that.
But I don't, you know, it's I don't know. I
don't think bigfoot that's the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
I think they're two different species. Now, remember, you know,
we have an old friend of ours that used to
call them mountain giants, and I don't know if you
mentioned his name or not, but he did a whole
thing on that, and he was convinced that they lived
up in Minnesota in the mountains and things like that.
But you know, I don't know, i'd have to say

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to totally different species. You know, you do see redheaded
bigfoot or red haired bigfoot, you know, but those are
usually you know, the type twos, and they're in the
Appalachio or you know, California, sometimes in the Midwest, but
they're not really seen uh as much as the type
ones of the type threes. So I mean, there could

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be something, There could be a genetic link there. I
just don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Well. The reason why I think it's very interesting is
because a lot of times you hear the more north
you go, the bigger the creatures get. I mean, if
you look at let's use moose and bear as an example, Okay,
grizzly bears and black bears. The more you head south
they're smaller. But the more you head north into British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan,

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into the territories into Alaska, the bears get bigger. Then
you have Kodiak bears, you have brown bears, you have
polar bears, which are absolutely massive, like the moose in
my area are around you know, a big one is
around twelve to fifteen hundred pounds. You go up towards
Alaska and you get the Alaskan moose or the Yukon moose,

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they're over two thousand pounds. Like, everything seems to get
bigger the more north you go. And there have been
alleged sightings of giant footprints as well as sightings of
the Sasquatch that could be anywhere between you know, twelve
feet to twenty feet tall. And that's quite a large creature.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Christian, that's a huge TWENTYI how big is twenty foot tall?
I mean think about that two story yeah, I mean,
and you're talking about the Boergman rule. The Boergman rule
states that the higher you go in elevation, the higher
north together, the bigger animals are. And they were talking
about fishing, whales things like that. But you're absolutely right.
You know, I'm from Maine originally, and we pretty much

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had big moves up There was fifteen hundred pounds, you know,
And but when you hit Alaska or where you guys are,
you know what the colder it gets, you know, Boergman's
rule kicks in. But I also believe that you know,
twenty foot for a big foot. I mean, how many
reports have we had over that over the years? I mean,
would that be different? Would would that then be a

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mountain giant or would that be something different? Well, maybe
an ogre.

Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
An adaptation like this says, I mean they have to.
The larger body makes them better at regulating their temperatures
so they can live in colder yeah. Yeah, yeah, and
they have more fat and stuff energy reserves to create heat.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
Well, they have bigger chests too, because they can take
in the air and warm it up bigger than your
chest is the war meeting gets your air. But uh,
it's just possible. Yeah, I just think I don't think
there's twenty foot big foots. I don't. I don't think
they're out there. I think that's a whole. I think
that's a giant. I mean something else. Do you know
the big twenty feet there? Yeah, you're right, I mean

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that's huge. I mean that's that's literally the top of
the building. Yeah, I mean it's I mean, what's how
many calories a day would that take? The feet? I mean, yeah,
you're right, that's the other thing. How's that? What's that
thing eating? And how much? I mean there's I know,
you know in Alaska the example food sources, but I
mean how many of those could you have before you

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start having issues. I mean, so would there be a
breeding population or is it just you know, one or
two left. It's just that's a completely.

Speaker 5 (01:10:47):
That's like mammals of the last Ice age.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
So yeah, everything was a lot bigger, but the atmosphere
was different too. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Well it is very very interesting because you know, we
do know that other creatures the more north you go,
are larger. I mean, there have been people who claim
that they've found thirty two inch prints. There have been
people who claim that they have found twenty five twenty
six inch prints. It's not out of the realm of possibility.
I mean to use Shaquille O'Neal as an example once again.

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I mean he wears what a size twenty two shoe. Yeah,
you know now, granted his foot is going to be
much more narrow than a sasquatch, but I mean humans
can have feet that big, you know, anything.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Like I said, anything's possible. I'm just looking at the
realm of possibility for you know, why nature would allow
that and how it would survive. I was looking at
it that way. You know, what's what's the purpose of
that specific animal or slash human or whatever you want
to call it, or hybrid. What would that purpose, you know,
be for why would it be here? What did it be?

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What was his mission be? You know, uh, what's it
going to eat? And how much is it gonna eat?
You know? And then how's it going to feed itself?
And there are a bunch of them, how they're going
to feed themselves? You know, it's it all boils down
resources and and you know, uh, natural use.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Well, I mean, if you take down the average deer,
you're going to get one hundred pounds plus of meat
out of that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Yeah, But if you're you're twenty foot tall, how many
deer day? Probably five or six easy, I mean, that's
that's huge. That's probably one hundred thousand calories a day,
you know, gould something like that would need just to
fuel itself.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Could be warm, could be It's just you look at.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
It that way. Okay, SHACKI is a freemason, Yes, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
Do you think then that giants or the offspring of
humans or extraterrestrials or fallen angels see and.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
That that's that's a great question, because the truth is,
I'm torn because I believe in the Nephlum, but I
also believe that it's possible for giants to be an
offshoot of some experiments from aliens. I believe that's totally possible.
You know, when they talk about how all the flesh
and all the earth, of all the all the things
were corrupt and Noah's time, it doesn't specifically just say

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it was from giants or the Nephlum. I mean it
could have been from alien interference too, So it's a
possibility you have both. It just doesn't mention it. You know.
One of the reasons why I always say, you know,
aliens are part of God's creation is if you read
the Niessan Creede, you know, God created the things seeing
visible and invisible and seeing the non scene, you know,

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and whatever on all.

Speaker 6 (01:13:43):
The galaxy in all the universe.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
So that's why I don't have a problem with this
in a realitious aspect, because I believe God made everything.
So if there was interference by you know, alien civilizations
and things like that, I'm totally We're bringing to willing
to believe in that or listen to that theory if
it makes sense, you know, if we have some.

Speaker 6 (01:14:02):
Kind of proof. But who's to say they weren't interfering
back then?

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
You know, maybe they wanted the corruption of the earth
because they wanted to take over the earth. You know,
we don't know what the resource needs works for them.
I mean, but it's totally possible. I would totally believe
alien the intervention today with genetic pipulation.

Speaker 6 (01:14:21):
I mean, to me, it makes more sense.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
I look at you know, we're about the same age, Dave,
you know the think what what did a cell phone
look like when we were kids?

Speaker 5 (01:14:31):
Oh yeah, cut dixie cuff on a string.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
I remember when pages came out. How cool that was,
you know. And look at the technology we have now,
I mean, the advancements genetically and I don't even think
we really know what we have technology wize there's that
that's a whole different conversation. You know, what do we
really have if the government doesn't tell us, are they
sixty or eighty years ahead of what we have or

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we don't?

Speaker 5 (01:14:57):
We don't know at least ten to twenty it's more
than you know, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
I mean, come on, just from that one source we have, so,
I mean, it's it's just it's just astonishing. But I
can totally believe that the Aliens would have something to
do with genetic manipulation.

Speaker 6 (01:15:15):
But again, you know, I totally believe that the real
Nephlom were from the Bible.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
What do you think it would take scientifically to prove
giants once existed a giant?

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
I think you need a living breathing here. I am
feed me. I won't need anyone.

Speaker 5 (01:15:36):
Well, really, we just need some source of DNA that
was preserved.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Yeah, but here. Okay, But when you look at all
this stuff that's going on in Antarctica, how many stories
have you heard about Antarctica having nebucan azer frozen in
a time capsule? Or or are giants men aering noun?
They're just frozen, They're completely catatonic. They're they're in a
suspension chamber and they're waiting to come back and take over.
You know, that's that is a huge thing in the Antarctica.

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So I mean, what if that's true? And what if
they're just waiting and then they're gonna come out and
take over again? How are we going to stop them?

Speaker 6 (01:16:12):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
What if? What if there is literally what we don't
First of all, we have no idea what's in on
our artica. We have no idea how much space is
down there. I mean, we're not allowed to know. So
what if there's actually armies in the hyper bear chambers
or some kind of sleep chambers waiting, you know, for
the clock to hit, you know, wake everyone up and
say okay, it's go time and just take over. We
don't know that's not going to happen, and it's possible,

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but I mean that's giants are never gonna be our friends.
They're never gonna be people that want to hang out
with us and share our technology and do this. They
want to rule us, or they want to destroy us,
or they want to eat us. I mean, that's this
is it. There's no other sinsbot's about it. So I
just I've always been scared about things like this because
if that was actually true, if the genesissist conspiracy is true.

Speaker 6 (01:16:56):
And they are waiting and they are you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Know, uh, using secret organizations to you know, pick and
choose what they want to do and buying specific businesses
that go into biochemistry and things like that, and have
all this metal incredible wealth, and you know, is that
all true? Is that you know, there's just so much
to think about, and when you start talking about it rationally,

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it sounds like you're insane. It really does but when
you start thinking about it and you give it a
little bit of credence and you think, wait, this is true,
then maybe that's true. You know, who's to say, I mean,
who's to say it's it's one of these things that
it's this conspiracy that scares me because if it's true,
I don't want it. I don't want this to be true.
I don't want the fact that giants could come back

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and take over to be true because we'd have no
way to stop them.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Well, we need to find one first.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
Yeah, but what if there's a bunch, Like I said,
what if you know, what if what they say about
Antarctica is true?

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Well, I mean, we already know Megatron is in there,
so what are you worried about?

Speaker 5 (01:17:59):
Hey man, that's the funny that you say that there.
I was just thinking that these discussions remind me of
when I used to sit around with my geek friends
and talk about comic books and what if this one
went up against this one?

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
I mean, I guess if we I guess if we
had like uh, you know, uh, what are those robot
suits called?

Speaker 10 (01:18:19):
Oh that the Cybertronic, the Iron.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
No, no, no, the big one is robotech. I guess
we had a bunch of robotech suits.

Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
Will be all right, like he used in the New
Predator movie.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Yeah, we had something like that, I guess would be
all right. It's just we we just you know, we
don't have any ways stand and fight for ourselves when
it comes to those kind of things, you know, because
what if they're bulletproof? You know, the original Nephilie they
were said to shine like they you know, had scale
scales on them. If you ever read have you ever
read a description of the original nephilim, No, they glowed,

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they glowed, they had serpentized and that was generally one
that was the most powerful, and they were just they're terrifying.

Speaker 6 (01:19:03):
They're very reptilian looking.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
So here and here I thought that was you after midnight.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
No, I will fault remember, but that, I mean, that
would be terrifying because what if, like you know, he
he's about all the stories about reptil reptoids, reptilians secretly
running the world, the reptilian blood lines. What if all
that's true? You know, But that's that's terrifying.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
We have four and a half minutes ago before we
have to go to break in the bottom of the hour.
Christian McCleod and Christina are here from American Cryptid and
Paranormal Society and we're talking about giants tonight. Another question
for you regarding this, You know, do you think that
a giant human could even be physically viable, giving gravity,

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bone density, and the fact of, like you said, the
caloric intake they would need in order to survive.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
I think, oh, genetically, I think it's very possible. You know,
you look at minocadrial dwarfs. I mean, that's the opposite
in the spectrum. But monoclauddoewarfs. You know, they're genetically just
they're smaller, but everything's proportional. So what if you take
that to the next level on the other side, So
then you have giants that as long as they're you know,

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genetically automa anatomical, yeah, they'd be fine. Again, the muscular
structure and really a lot of people if this is
I've said this a million times a big foot too.
Everyone tends to underestimate the weight of a big foot
or a dog man. Okay, you're dealing. You have to
have a skeletal structure that will support that frame, and
to have that, you have to have the bone density
and the muscular just to put older, you know, to

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hold everything together, and that's always going to weigh more.
So you know, if you have an eight nine foot sasquashed,
that think's fifteen hundred pounds. People don't get that. Those
three four hundred pounds, that's not that's that's they couldn't stand.
Their bones would break. So it's muscle density, bone density
and all that. So you're absolutely right with that. But
it's chloric intake, and I'm sure it is. That's why

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when you read about all these white tailed deer being found,
most of them means left behind, but the organs are,
you know, they're gone, so you know that's the highest
dense nutrition. You know.

Speaker 5 (01:21:14):
I think that they'd have to be a very different
structure in DNA, like he said, they have to have
the stronger but I think that goes along with the
fact that they're always described as having two rows of
teeth and six fingers. They have completely different DNA and structure.
So it's not like like like with Andre the Giant,

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when he started getting really big, his was because of
a disorder, so his he got horrible arthritis and his
bones were getting thinner and everything because it was his
DNA was saying he should be much smaller, but his
disease made him bigger. For them, I think their DNA
would be programmed to make them that size. So their

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DNA being different, like it gives them two rows of teeth,
would also give them the thing er bones, the thicker
musculature and joints that they need to support the frame.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
Well, that would mean that it's a completely disparate species
and nothing humanoid about it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Right, except for the appearance if they are you know,
if they are Nefflman, they're part divine, you know, fallen angels.
That's what you're gonna get. You know, we have no
idea what the divine even can possibly you know, constructed
of so right, we don't even.

Speaker 5 (01:22:29):
Know that that's bone inside there. That could be something completely.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
Different for them that we just don't know. I mean,
they could have fibrous bones, you know, like birds, except stronger.
We just don't know. They could have diamond in there
for a Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
Well it does make it. It does make a difference
in trying to figure out what these are. But I mean,
do you think then that they are still roaming the
planet in certain spots like we We did talk about
Canadahar the Middle East, but there is still a lot
of desolate area around the world, especially in northern regions

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of Canada, of Russia, you know, the two most northern
countries out there. Even even in the Scandinavian countries up
north where there is little to no population.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
I'd always think that if if they are really still alive,
or if they were really still alive, and then just
from all the legends, and you're right, I think they're
being colder areas Canada. Again. People, people don't realize how
big your country is Man and how underdeveloped it is.
Canada is huge, huge, you know, how isn't isn't Canada

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comparable size wise the United States as far as.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
Canada, Canada is almost double the size, is it?

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
Okay, So think about all that size, all that space,
and then South America You've got the legend of the
Patagonia giants and things like that. And then even when
you come down in the northern you know, southern part
of a Loto, things like that, you had, you know,
the giant mountains and things like that. But they all
had one thing in common is they used to migrate
up north. So that seems to be a very you know,

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a strategical part of their plan. If they are alive,
there are probably migrated and they are probably living in
the north up going. But think about that and that
up and there in your area where you have nothing
but mountains and woods and forests, what could be up there?
Nothing would even find it? You know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
All I know is that if I'm out in the
forest and I see a twelve fourteen foot giant tom
stomping through and pushing trees down, I'm getting the hell
out of dodge this spaced out radio. We have Christian
mccleoud and Christina for another thirty minutes. Audience questions.

Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
Next, you're listening to Space down with your hopes.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Dave Scott, all right, we're clear.

Speaker 6 (01:25:24):
We're gonna have to do a part two on this one.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
You're a part two, you aren't.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
I haven't gotten this stuff. I'm marked down in my books. Yeah,
don't you even try?

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
What do you want to get? What do you want
to get to? Before we get to audience questions, Oh,
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
Well, whatever you want, man, I'm good. I'm just saying personally,
have you ever read this? No, give yourself a favor
it's like twenty bucks in Amazon. This is one of
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Once you start reading this. I have tried to get
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Speaker 6 (01:28:01):
Look the french coat and the trench.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
I did pull the trench coat and.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Yeah, yeah, where is your Fedora tonight?

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
Where's your her fador is hanging up by the Oh
you brought it in, She's going she's going to get
it for you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
It was here. Yeah, I refuse to move on to
this show without the Fedora.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
I understand. I understand. Man's got to have his limits.
I wore my HK hat for you by Hackler Cotch.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
I wore my Texas hat. There it is. Oh I
love that hat on you. Oh yeah it's such a
nice blue.

Speaker 3 (01:28:49):
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where you can buy it.

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Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
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Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
I don't know if Para Marv's coming up for it,
but you know, you gotta be careful with him because
he's got the six toad thing going on. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
I will I will give Para Para Marvel. You show up,
I will give you this Reese's peanut butter egg left
over from Easter.

Speaker 6 (01:29:22):
All right, I'll put your name on it. Actually per
from eating it.

Speaker 5 (01:29:26):
I'll put your name on it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:28):
It'll go right into my my Easter basket.

Speaker 6 (01:29:33):
Okay, he completed.

Speaker 5 (01:29:36):
Didn't give him an Easter basket, so I had to
get a new basket of Easter stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
And he like to stitcht I prefer that to a beer.
No problem, Marv, just making it happen. I'll you gotta show.

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We appreciate you're tuning us on in wherever you are
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Christina will be with us here momentarily to take some
audience questions. But first we want to remind all of
you that we love it that you are here tuning

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dot com. Info at spaced out radio dot com. Let's
get right to audience questions here for Christina and the
Cryptid Gee. Start off with Jerry tonight Kandahart. Question is

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where are the rest of the klan of giants? You
think they went through a portal.

Speaker 5 (01:31:24):
That's a great question. I think that they probably live
in other caves there that just didn't get explored.

Speaker 3 (01:31:34):
Well. I think what happened is when the military got
there and they got the rescue mission done, I think
they blew up the cave and they sealed that one.
So I'm probably sure they went into different cave systems,
So I'm sure they're alive and kicking. They're just in
a different place right now. I don't think they have portals. Again,
these these are they just seem primitive. Just just the

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only word I have for them.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Well, I think the other thing too is, you know,
I mean we don't know. I mean just looking at
even in the war zones that were there, I mean
the amount of tunnels that were in the caves and
in the mountains, I mean they went on for miles.

Speaker 5 (01:32:15):
I mean some have been log to hit out in
those kind of caves for for how long that we
couldn't find them. Oh yeah, you know, there's crazy amounts
of cave systems over there that you can't even imagine
if you haven't seen it. So I think they're probably
they know the territory and they're better at hiding and
finding at home exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
Well, I mean if you look at it, I mean,
if you take a country like Afghanistan that has literally
been at war for four hundred years, Okay, they have
bored those caves for centuries and they've made like you said,
they've rooted the system. You know that there's so many
different paths and ways to get in and out. You

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never it would take you years to walk all those caves.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
And there could be thousands and thousands of tunnels on
thousands and thousands of miles.

Speaker 5 (01:33:09):
And tunnels connecting one cave to another, one system to.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
An all pitch black, there's no white there, so you know,
they can obviously see in the dark. So again that's
another you know band as they have. So in the
other story there, there was another part of the story
where they went to blow up the cave system and
they tracked a few more of those giants down, but
they just they were pinned down and they had to

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get out of there, and then they blew the cave
mouth and then that's all they did. But that's another story.
I don't know how sure that is, but that was
part of the story too.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
Well, let's get to our next question here. This one
comes from Zaddi, who is asking is Bigfoot a product
of a man meeting with a bird and beast? I
don't know where that came from, but I'm going to
ask it anyways, I'll.

Speaker 5 (01:33:55):
See the bird in there.

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
I don't know. I doubt it, but like if you do,
the catch them DNA studies at one hundred thousand years
ago there was a nuclear DNA with a Mediterranean woman
and an unknown man. So you know that that fits
the timeframe for you know, the nephlum. But yeah, I'm
not sure where the bird comes in.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
Yeah, I'm not sure where the bird. I have never
seen a bigfoot with feathers.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
Well, you know, they see the sasquatch with wings thing
in Texas maybe you know, but they use that they
referred to as batsquatch in Texas because they have these
large primates with bat wings.

Speaker 6 (01:34:31):
Again, I don't think that's even remotely.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
I think someone was drinking a little.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
Let's move on, let's go to Jaketa. Who is next.
Do you think Petra was built by giants?

Speaker 5 (01:34:47):
Very possibly?

Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
I mean that would explain, you know, how how those
intricate things got done at such a high level.

Speaker 6 (01:34:54):
The detailed Petro has just been fascinating. That's what place.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
I would just love to go.

Speaker 5 (01:34:59):
Gosh to see that in person there, with that history,
it would be amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
Well for people who don't know what Petra is, I
believe it's in Jordan and it is a famous ancient
archaeological city in southern Jordan, renowned for its rock cut
architecture specific structures.

Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
Indian Jones, a last CRUs said, when they go to
get the grail, they're actually going to the petrol. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
Yeah, it's pretty beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
It's awesome. Actually it was in Transformers too.

Speaker 5 (01:35:30):
Oh yeah, that big facade on the wall in Jordan
is just amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
Jerry would like to know in Greek culture there is
a legend of Amazon women. Do you think those stores
stories are based on real encounters of powerful women as
a way to demonize their equality in ancient societies?

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
I hope so.

Speaker 5 (01:35:56):
I don't think so. I think there really could have
been a group of large women.

Speaker 3 (01:36:02):
Yeah, that's why they lived on Paradise Island. Yeah, that's
let's think about this for a second. All right, a
bunch of Amazon women. They're all gorgeous, brown hair, black hair,
blue eyes. Hmmm.

Speaker 6 (01:36:18):
Where where that como came from?

Speaker 3 (01:36:19):
Anyway? Yeah, I don't it's very possible. I mean, they
they had women soldiers, you know, they had like special
forces for women in the Greeks, uh, and and even
in other cultures where they were considered some of the
best warriors. Ever, So who's to say that's not possible. Uh.
I don't think they were demonized back then. I think

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they had more equality. Look at the way women in
Sparta were treated, you know, they were considered equals. They
could divorce husbands and keep the property. You know, they
decided what that what was going to be the child's future.
So I mean that that's that's more of a mayor
matrice than anything. So I don't I don't, no, Uh,

(01:37:01):
it's very possible. It would not surprise me.

Speaker 5 (01:37:04):
It wouldn't surprise me if a group of women who
wanted to be warriors, who had that in them would
break off and be separate. I can I can completely
see that happening.

Speaker 6 (01:37:17):
I mean, especially if they're well trained, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
And then yeah, they continue to just train younger, younger
people to advance the ranks.

Speaker 5 (01:37:24):
And I can see them feeling like they had to
be the best they could possibly be to prove themselves
against these other groups. So I can see them really
stepping into their training and muscle building and everything. So
I could see them being a force to contend with.

Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
Now, I mean, it's it's totally possible. And go get
Boudica and when she was running the uh the worst
against the Romans. You know, she had tribes of women
that were or are not tribes, but she had you know, legions,
legions of women and troops of women. Yeah, so'sally possible.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
I love Amazon women. I'm not gonna lie. I don't
mean to sound misogynistic or anything, but you know, during
my true story, during my radio days when I worked
in Vancouver, afterwards, we'd usually go to this famous bar

(01:38:26):
in Vancouver called the Roxy, and for like thirty years straight,
the Roxy is voted the number one bar by NHL
hockey players. Right, And I had two friends, not girlfriends
or anything, but they were female and friends. So here's
Davey at short, pudgy at five foot eight. One of

(01:38:47):
them was a model, she was six foot two, and
the other one was six foot one and a half.
And both of them always wore stiletto heels, making them
at a round six foot five. And they would dote
on me, they would they would dote on me like
I was just some special little troll back then. Yeah,

(01:39:10):
my beard wasn't as long and I didn't have white
in my hair back then, but you know, just reminded
me of some good time. So let's go to Erica,
do you think there is truth in folklore like Jack
and the Beanstalk. Jack had to climb up into the
sky where the giants lived.

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
I mean, if the beanstalk was a metaphor for like,
you know, an attachment to a spaceship or something like that,
it's possible. But I don't. I don't think, you know, or.

Speaker 5 (01:39:40):
A way to get up into a cave that's up
at the top of a mountain.

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
I mean, like, yeah, I mean that's possible.

Speaker 5 (01:39:46):
Something big could get to, but he couldn't get to
it without the bean stock.

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
I don't think anything in the sky, you know, that's
that's like you know, they say, oh, castles in the
sky if that's folk and me does I didn't have
some kind of spaceship. So if they were tethered to
the earth somehow, or there was you know, maybe they
had some kind of bridge to the earth or you know,
a lift system. Maybe. But I'm sure I'm sure there

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was giants killed. I'm sure maybe aliens got killed because
they underestimated the human race or the undersumated to humans there.
I'm sure that's been possible, that's possibly happened, or they
got arrogant thought their technology could you know, keep them
from you know, the human brain, which is we're pretty crafty.
Do we need to be, especially you know, when our
life's on the line, So, you know, I think that's

(01:40:35):
always possible. I don't think they live in the sky.
I think that's probably just a yeah, or maybe a cave.

Speaker 5 (01:40:43):
But but to get to a top of a mountain
where it gave it is, I could totally see that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
All right, let's move on to the next one. We
got to do a show on nursery rhymes one day.
I love that nursery rhymes are actually quite creepy.

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
Yeah they are. Look, you know Jack and Jill and
fairy Tale.

Speaker 5 (01:41:04):
I'd love to do on fairy tale.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
Jose is asking, I'm remembering that when very large people
throughout our history, for whatever reason, they wouldn't live too long.
So how viable is it even to survive biologically being
of that stature.

Speaker 5 (01:41:21):
Well, very large people, mostly in human society and human DNA,
are very large, either because they have a pituitary tumor
or they have a disease of gigantism. So that doesn't
give them the structure to get that large and to
maintain it. What happens is that they have a heart

(01:41:43):
that is the same size as yours and mine. They
have a circulatory system that expands and that heart is
pumping harder. That their bones keep growing, but the rest
of them doesn't.

Speaker 10 (01:41:56):
Really match to fit, not genetically able to maintain their size.

Speaker 5 (01:42:01):
Right, they get horrible arthritis, they get thinning bones, they
can't stand, they they medically have problems.

Speaker 3 (01:42:08):
They're they're they're exactly. The reason why they are is
are from either I hate saying disease, but it's a
genetic flaw, whereas a giant has something other those issues.
It was genetically designed to be a giant. So a
circularseruri system is you know, comparable to the size of
what is going to be. It'd be like, you know,
Christine's right, it'd be like us putting a you know,

(01:42:29):
a chicken heart into a goat. It's just not gonna work.
The size differences and it's not gonna work.

Speaker 11 (01:42:35):
But for an.

Speaker 5 (01:42:35):
Actual giant that was born to be a giant, their
DNA says they're a giant. Their heart is going to
be proportionally as big as they are, and and so
the rest of their organs and two issues will be
normal size for them. It will be proportional for them.

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
We got about ten minutes left with you guys tonight
as we have Christian McCloud and Christina from American Cryptid
and Paranormal Society. Let's get into some of the reports
you guys have had recently come in. You guys get
reports on a daily basis of weird and high strangeness.
What are some of the good ones that you've got?

Speaker 6 (01:43:19):
Okay, well, this was an interesting one.

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
About three four weeks ago, we got a report of
a nine foot werewolf in downtown Ashville that was at
eighty Broadway as an address. And the funny thing about
that is we were at eighty Broadway on Friday night
doing our ghost tour and we saw no nine foot werewolf,
but we had about two or three sightings. We've had

(01:43:44):
some very weird paranormal sightings as of lately Nashville, a
lot of we have an entity up here call it well,
we have a bridge called Helen's Bridge, but there's an
entity referred to as Helen, and she's the woman killed
herself on the bridge, but sometimes she's referred to as
the bow catch, a woman in white. And we've had

(01:44:05):
several stories about her in the last couple of weeks.
Oh yeah, and it's it's been very active on Church Street.
We've had some issues. There's been a lot of paranormal activity.
I've had very few. We've had one or two big
foot of dog man reports as of lately, but nothing
that we could really investigate. One of them was an allegation,

(01:44:29):
the other one was largely seen on the parkway as
they were driving. But we tend to get more paranormal
reports than crypted reports this time of year. Anyway, when
we get into May, June, July, our our crypti reports
tend to get a little higher. But it's been more
paranormal than anything. But it has been active. There's been
a lot of things going on. I think one of
the reasons why the cryptied reports are so low is

(01:44:51):
because our weather has been so wacky. I mean, it
was two weeks ago it was almost seventy degrees on
our tours, and tonight it was in the forties, you know,
And it's like, is when you're gone, is it back?
What's it doing? And you know, it's very transitional for
the cryptids. I think, and I think the animal life

(01:45:11):
and think your cryptids are a little confused about what
the weather is and what time they wake up and
start migrating. So I think that's part of the issue
we're having too.

Speaker 1 (01:45:20):
Well, let's get back to this were wolf's story, you know,
because it's weird. Over the last three four months, there
seems to be an increase all across North America of
were wolf sightings, not dog man sightings, were wolf sightings.
What do you think is stirring this up right now?

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
I honestly think it's it's one of these things where
it's cyclical. Okay, Ashville, where we work, is ground zero
for where the Cherokee Nation, the Scots, the Hours came together,
and that's where their medicine formed. That's that's when you
know their medicine, people, mountain magic, all these things came from.

(01:46:00):
And that's also where the Cherokee version of skin Walker
was allegedly born. Now that does kind of transcribe with
some of the folklore, me does. I'm not an expert
on that. I've been told that, I've read things that
made me believe that. I mean, the Double Sporthouse is
twenty miles away down in Asheville, and that's considered home
with Sukaaloo and his minions up in Piska and that's
actually a national park. So that folklore is just saturated

(01:46:23):
here up in Silva. You know, you have jud Keela
Rock which is right there. That's you know, Judicella was
basically another giant. But it's one of these things where
it's just fascinating because these werewolf stories are coming on out.
In fact, I've got another one here about uh one

(01:46:45):
that was seeing in downtown Ashville in the thirties and
it was at the Jackson Building. And basically what happened
is the iconic one hundred and fourteen foot Jackson Building
in downtown Ashville is artually haunted by a jump spot
marked the boseye sidewalk.

Speaker 6 (01:47:03):
Get nineteen thirties staff at the building.

Speaker 3 (01:47:05):
Told of a shifting figure that could climb the extra
the brick work faster Thanny human I believe to be
a GHOSTI operation until they saw it up close and
what they said, so they couldn't believe it was a werewolf.
And it happened to leap to its alleged death before
the police were notified, and when the police got there,
there was no body. So those you know, those stories
have been going on since the thirties, and Nashville specifically.

(01:47:28):
But I think I think all you know cities have
some kind of folklore that's them from Native American folklore.

Speaker 5 (01:47:37):
I think the rise in reports is a rise in
dog man sightings that people don't know what to call.

Speaker 3 (01:47:43):
I mean, how do you tell the difference.

Speaker 5 (01:47:44):
I think somebody looks at a dog man who is
intelligent enough to have expressions and maybe even vocalizations that
sound intelligent and human. I think anybody looks at that
and has hands that can point at you and imitate
your movements. I think anybody that looks at that that

(01:48:09):
isn't a parentormal, encrypted investigator, or part of this lingo.
Somebody that's a viewer of this channel, anybody else is
going to say that's a weir wolf, because that's what
they're programming. Is that's the word that they've heard, that's
what they've seen in movies that looks like this.

Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
That's all identifies.

Speaker 5 (01:48:29):
I looked back at all of the reports that we
found on YouTube, all the ones that we found, none
of them described seeing any transformation happening from human to
where wealth or back. None of them saw any human
component or transformation in it, and none of them reported

(01:48:50):
seeing any human clothes or a peril of any kind.
They didn't see ripped T shirt on them or or
you know, anything that would indicate that they were human.
They just are assuming it. I think ninety percent at
least of these stories have to be dog man sited.

Speaker 1 (01:49:11):
I want to get to a weird story here the
last five minutes. I don't know if you've heard this one,
but this one's kind of been all over the news.
A mother from Oklahoma was severely injured by an unknown
animal on March twenty ninth, while her husband urgently awaits
a new kidney and is on dialysis. Alicia Maxie was discovered.

(01:49:34):
Let me just finish the story so that way everybody
knows what I'm talking about here. Alicia Maxi was discovered
mauled in Blanco, Oklahoma, by the homeowner of the property,
who happened to be in emt. The Pittsburgh County Sheriff's
Office is awaiting with Oklahoma Wildlife Services to identify the

(01:49:55):
animal based on the severity of Maxie's wounds. Per the Outlet,
Maxie told her sister in law Cat that she heard
a deep growl right before being attacked per the outlet,
something just pounced on her and knocked her to the ground.
She says it was dog like what she described, but

(01:50:16):
she didn't say it was certainly a dog. I'm in
too much pain to say anything right now. Maxi's mentioned
in between surgeries, there's a GoFundMe account to assist her
in her recovery. The homeowners discovered her unconscious and bloody,
with the dog still present, Kelly claimed in the GoFundMe.
They immediately called nine to one one and Alicia was

(01:50:38):
rushed to Saint John's in Tulsa for emergency care. The
trauma and injuries she suffered left our entire family in shock,
and Alicia now faces along and difficult recovery. I mean,
there are some big dogs out there. There are big dogs.

Speaker 3 (01:50:55):
I'm not trying to cut you out. But I heard
the interview with the sheriff right before we went on
air with you, and it was on Monster nine one one,
and it was recorded to sheriff point blank said in
his thirty years, he has never seen anything like this.
He doesn't know what did it. He said that the
wounds were so bad that she's got to have five

(01:51:16):
more surgeries just to keep her right arm. And on
top of that, all of her clothes were ripped off,
all of them. They've all been sent to the state
for DNA testing. And apparently the tracks around the body
are completely foreign to everyone and they no one's saying anything,
but the sheriff sounds he's a nice He sounded like
a real cool guy. He was very much on board.

(01:51:38):
He was talking to Lance and he told him point blank,
they've never seen anything like this. The family is in
total shock, and the woman just can't speak. She's in
so much pain. They've got her so she already had
three surgeries.

Speaker 10 (01:51:51):
I thinkshed, Yeah, she said they slashed her and her
right arm was almost completely torn off, and apparently there's
there was a lot of skin missing, so it sounds
like whatever got her ate some of her.

Speaker 3 (01:52:04):
But it was just a horrible, horrible scene. And you know,
but I'm thinking that's that's definitely. There was also something
else that happened before. All she remembers hearing is the growl,
and then she heard someone shoot a gun and then
she got attacked, so there was a massive gunshot. She

(01:52:26):
that was the last thing she remembers, so she heard
the growl, then she heard the gunshot. So apparently I
think someone probably was looking out and saw this attack
happened and shot at it, and that's why he left.
But the damage has already been done, you know. I mean,
she's she is not in good shape, the whole family.
You know, find the if people have a heart, find

(01:52:48):
they go fund me account. Don't eat what you can
because that poor woman. And again her husband's waiting for
a kidney. I mean, how how hard she was looking
for a job. She was she was going up to
this specific place where she was at to look for work,
and this is what happened to her. Oh that's horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
Do you have anybody in that area who is investigating it?

Speaker 3 (01:53:10):
I well, I can call Lands. I don't, uh, I
don't know if he'll call me back. But he's, you know,
he's he's got a good he's he's a real good
guy up there.

Speaker 6 (01:53:19):
But it's it's a very very strange set of circumstances.
And to have the sheriff come on and say, point blank,
after thirty years, we've never seen anything like this. And
they took the clothes, that blood in saliva. They knew
it had saliva so they've got that all and and
they're just waiting on the on the reports right now.
I'm a firm believer they already know it did it.

(01:53:41):
I'm sorry if you have the if you bring in
you know, they had to bring in the federal government
to say I have a film.

Speaker 3 (01:53:47):
They have technology. They just grab a sample. They can
probably stick that in and have it scan in two seconds,
and they know what it is. So I'm sure they
know what they're dealing with. I think what's going to
happen is you're going to see a press blackout. That
whole area is going to just automatically be put under surveillance,
and they're probably gonna bring in some gentlemen with some
equipment to go handle this thing. Pray. This reminds me

(01:54:09):
a whole lot of the MAACA situation back and then
what was that twenty twelve. In twenty twelve, Yeah, so
it's definitely something we're gonna have to deal with.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
We'll talk about this story next time you were on.
Christian McCloud and Christina. If you guys actually want to
stick around, Robin Haynes is next. I'll leave that up
to you. Spaced out radio continues with our three. You're
listening to spaced Out Radio with your host Dave Scott.

(01:54:51):
All right, guys, we got about five and a half minutes.
I'm gonna put you in the background and we'll be
right back. Okay, awesome, all right, we'll be right back everybody.
I'll let you stare at that the entire time.

Speaker 12 (01:55:04):
No, I won't satis.

Speaker 13 (01:57:44):
Utah.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
All right, let's bring Robin in.

Speaker 3 (01:59:31):
Hello, h Robins, Are you good? Are you?

Speaker 11 (01:59:36):
I'm good?

Speaker 1 (01:59:37):
Robin? Your hair looks great tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:59:40):
So fabulous. Don't you wish you would had that air?

Speaker 11 (01:59:44):
Thanks?

Speaker 3 (01:59:48):
She has her own theme song, Dave, I know her
own theme song.

Speaker 11 (01:59:54):
So what did you think of my or pictures the
other night?

Speaker 3 (01:59:57):
I think you're awesome. I was about to say Dave
about him, but then now we start talking about cryptids? Yeah? Cool.
In fact, I was, I was gonna upload them on
my website. But I want to ask you if you
was all right? Oh?

Speaker 11 (02:00:08):
Absolutely, go right ahead. That was definitely where I got
hijacked on the way back to hour and forty five
minute trip took four hours. Tell me something, Yeah, I
shouldn't travel.

Speaker 3 (02:00:25):
Stay at home.

Speaker 1 (02:00:26):
All right, gys, we have under a minute here.

Speaker 3 (02:00:30):
We can have pulled. Dame's beard looks now.

Speaker 11 (02:00:33):
I know, doesn't it look good?

Speaker 3 (02:00:34):
He's a bowler. You should die styling.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
I'm literally thinking of getting rid of it.

Speaker 6 (02:00:42):
And Christina said, put a lightning bolt in it.

Speaker 11 (02:00:45):
Hey, Christina, how are you?

Speaker 3 (02:00:48):
She's fine, she'll be right in. She took the dog
out real quick.

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Uh swamp Dweller will be about three minutes and we'll
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Speaker 14 (02:02:29):
Hello, and welcome to spaced Out Radios Swamp. I'm swamp dweller,
and tonight I'm going to take you on a mystic
journey of the unknown, sharing tales of monsters, legends, and nightmares.
Welcome to the spaced Out Radio Swamp. I live in
Mississippi and I am Christian, I guess, because I'm not

(02:02:51):
actually sure what religion I am anymore, but I swear
all of these experiences are very real. So there is
a patch of woods near my that I have always
called the Creek because you know it has a creek. Garrett,
my cousin, who I fight with a lot because we
hang out a lot. I have seen some things here

(02:03:12):
We used to go to this creek a lot before.
His parents found out that he was going there behind
their back and stopped him because it's quote unquote dangerous
to be there. And maybe about the third time we
dared each other to go into the deep woods. The
reason I say deep is that there is an exceptionally
large patch of nice woods that is technically part of
the creek, but there is an immediate cutoff of darkness,

(02:03:35):
pencil thin trees, and an overall feeling of eeriness. We
both started walking towards it and laughing at how scared
we were. There was a loud screech, like almost ear
piercingly loud. We booked it out of there. I had
just told him that I had known about skim walkers,
which was not much, I'm not going to lie, but

(02:03:56):
it was enough to be scary, and we were both terrified.
So we get out of the creek and sat right
outside of it, breathing hard and looking into the creek.
We kept seeing something black, about the size of a deer,
which there are not really any deer there at all.
This thing was darting through the trees. We kept going
to the creek, probably a terrible idea, but neither of

(02:04:18):
us really cared if we died, because legit, everything sucks.
And I found a wolf jaw. I found the right
side of the jaw of a wolf. It had all
of its teeth except one. Two of the teeth were removable. Actually,
it was interesting. It is obviously somewhat new because it
still has the enamel on it, and it looked very saturated.

(02:04:40):
That was the moment I started my bone collection, which
is right next to me as I write this. Even
before we encounter what we believed to be a skim walker,
we saw things darting around and weird sounds. We still
often hear these things and see these things. There is
what we call a demon in my house who has
the name of Jor. He likes messing with people, knocking

(02:05:03):
on stuff, opening the bathroom door, moving in the corner
of your eye, but it would not intentionally hurt anyone.
But now recently there's another thing I believe sits in
the right far top corner from where I am, and
every night it moves around. It likes touching me or
I do not want to be touched, aka the butt,
the thighs, down my back and chest. This thing that

(02:05:25):
I'm pretty sure is some sort of Incubis or Sucubis
likes putting what feels like a hand or hands down
my shirt in places that I listed. It has happened
twice now and it's really getting on my nerves. There
have been other times that Garrett and I have encountered
things that I would not consider your ordinary animal. There
are two abandoned houses off the street, one burnt down

(02:05:48):
and the other just far back from the road that
it was forgotten. At both houses and at our own houses,
we have seen a white or possibly pink or peach
colored animal that looks like a humanoid. It walks in
all fours and has a gaping mouth and big black eyes.
Every time we have seen it, we both go right

(02:06:08):
back to our houses. We're too scared to try to
figure out what it is, but I think it might
be connected to that skim walker from the creek.

Speaker 1 (02:06:17):
Thank you Swampy for another creepy story. If you want
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stories for you to listen to each and every night.
And on that note, let's get to the crypti Q
and a. We got Robin Haynes.

Speaker 15 (02:06:33):
Here swamp soft where the tawtrees swam. She here's bigfoot
whisper wall say through the bell of the forest were
the Bigfoot Psychic talks to Saskatch every day Holy and

(02:06:57):
stays down Radioscryptic.

Speaker 1 (02:06:59):
Cuban, Robin Haynes, It's always great to have you on
spaced out radio, my beautiful friend. How you doing.

Speaker 11 (02:07:09):
I am doing great, happy to be here.

Speaker 1 (02:07:11):
It is so nice to have you here and still
joining us. We got the cryptid Ghee and Christina from
American Encryptid and Paranormal Society. We always love it when
he's here, we really do.

Speaker 11 (02:07:24):
We just got to change that photo that's so frightening.
Cryptids won't even come around with that mug like goodness now.

Speaker 1 (02:07:34):
Right before the break, we were talking about this weird
story out of Oklahoma where a lady was mauled by dog.

Speaker 11 (02:07:43):
But you know, I have my doubts. I have my doubts.
I'm not going to say it's not I never say never,
because there's been too many things that have happened in
my life to ever say never, especially this last weekend.
But what I will say is this number one you're
talking this woman had to be attacked at the door,
which is highly unlikely, not impossible, but unlikely. My understanding

(02:08:08):
too is it was daylight, and so that is another thing.
They're out all day long, Like I literally this weekend
just got done sitting out at a park with a
bunch of them. So they're out during the day. That's indisputable.
But the whole scenario on what happened, how it happened
makes no sense to me. Not that it couldn't be

(02:08:28):
there could be one that was by itself did something.
It doesn't fit their m all. I just don't think
it's accurate. So I'm gonna, you know, wait and see
what other evidence they pull up. I'm anxious to see
what kind of DNA comes up on it, because they're
gonna get if it is a dog man. Obviously there's

(02:08:49):
gonna be canine in it. But what else is it
going to show?

Speaker 14 (02:08:53):
You know?

Speaker 3 (02:08:55):
Huh? You and I both know will never see the truth.

Speaker 11 (02:08:58):
No, but I do not think it's a dog man.
I'm sorry, I just don't. I think there's too many
predators in Oklahoma for you know, to just zero in
and say it's the dogmen. As we know there is
good and bad and everything. Do I think they're a
bad dogmen?

Speaker 3 (02:09:15):
Yes?

Speaker 11 (02:09:15):
Do I think there's good dogmen? Absolutely, I'll take my
chances with the dogmen rather than our type of human.
But I just in this case do not feel that
that's what it is. And it could be. I'll be
the first to admit I could be one hundred percent wrong,
but from the facts that I've seen so far, it
doesn't add up to me. Christian, what do you think

(02:09:36):
I You know, I I was.

Speaker 6 (02:09:37):
Just listening to the lands. He just he broke this
story yesterday and today.

Speaker 3 (02:09:42):
He didn't intend him to his show, and he's a
very methodical you know, he's a doctor. He goes very
scientific method and from what he said, you know, she
walked into a gate that wasn't a door, It was
into a gate, so it was obviously it was a
foreign property. She was already job, so she opens the
gate and then she gets attacked, and then she hears

(02:10:04):
a gun. Then she hears a boom, and then it's
off her. But the amount of damage done to her
in that time between the gunshot and the attack is
just her. Every one of her clothes had been ripped off,
all of her clothes have been ripped off and torn off.
I mean that that to me just it's the m
of a dog man.

Speaker 11 (02:10:23):
I you know, I'm just it's possible. See, I haven't
heard the whole story. The only thing I saw is
that brief clip. But the thing that's weird to me
is I feel like we're not getting the whole picture.

Speaker 3 (02:10:36):
We're never going to get the whole.

Speaker 11 (02:10:38):
And I will be the first to say that, is
it a possibility? Yes, I never say never, But what
would be the provocation for it? Like? Really, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 5 (02:10:48):
There really was a gunshot right before it. There may
have been said that she didn't see what happened but
heard a gun shot. There was some other altercation happening and.

Speaker 3 (02:10:59):
It was a bad mood or got pissed off someone
shot at it or trying to kill it, or maybe
they're young.

Speaker 5 (02:11:04):
Were in trouble, And I mean, it's possible she was
in the wrong place.

Speaker 11 (02:11:09):
Yeah. The only thing I know about it is a
little clip that I saw on TikTok. That was it.
And there wasn't enough information in that clip for me
to say definitively yes or no.

Speaker 3 (02:11:19):
Well, the sheriff and he did a really good job
the shure. It was very strange to me how how
open the sheriff was to talk about it, because Lance
must have explained who he was and what he was
doing and what he does, and then the guy was
very very try. I mean, he was very forthcoming. And uh,
I was very surprised on how open he was about
it because he was he was very buddy buddy with Lance.

(02:11:40):
He was very polite to him. He was not dismissive
at all. Uh and uh, you know it just to me,
it sounds like he sounds it sounds like he knows
what it was, but he's not going to say.

Speaker 11 (02:11:51):
I'd love to see the clip because I might change
my stance on it. I'm going by that short little
blip that I saw that really had no information. I
did one picture of her in the hospital butt and
she's in really rough shape.

Speaker 3 (02:12:04):
Now there's a huge chunk of her that was taken
off and her right arm was almost completely bitten off.

Speaker 11 (02:12:13):
So they had and they never saw anything. Nobody saw
a predator.

Speaker 5 (02:12:18):
She said she saw something dog like.

Speaker 11 (02:12:21):
Yeah that I heard her say, you know, I mean
it's possible.

Speaker 1 (02:12:29):
Well, I'm going to play some audio here, I'm going
to play some audio. I was able to find some
audio from the sheriff from this town, So we're going
to play some audio here with it. I'm just going
to cover up the for our YouTube side, and I'm
going to cover up the the you know, video of it.

(02:12:51):
But let's go that way. But here's the audio.

Speaker 11 (02:12:55):
I think that did it. That right there is what
the problem is.

Speaker 1 (02:12:59):
Here, here's the here's the audio from the sheriff.

Speaker 3 (02:13:02):
Thirty eight years.

Speaker 16 (02:13:03):
I've never been involved or saying anything to this extent
as far as injury is caused by a wild animal.
Our question now is what caused these injuries? We've got
to depart in a wild off. They have actually taken
some of the evidence, some of the clothing that was
ripped from her, and send it off to one of
their labs to see what we can find out if
there's any way to identify what type of animal the tragedy.

Speaker 1 (02:13:26):
So right there, I mean, the sheriff is basically saying
that he has no idea what this type of animal was.
Sheriff Frankie McClendon in this story.

Speaker 11 (02:13:40):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Did they happen to say what
the shot was for you're gonna shoot at something normally
you see something, but no one.

Speaker 3 (02:13:51):
No one's talking about that. That shot is coming from
the woman that's been injured.

Speaker 6 (02:13:56):
She said she heard the dark brow, then there was
a shot, and that's all she numbers.

Speaker 11 (02:14:01):
It's entirely possible, guys. I'm not going to rule it out.
I'm not going to rule it out because there are
facts that would back it up. Really, there is the
fact that they never saw anything makes me definitely think
that it's something cryptid because we know that they hear
anything one of the I gotta go and slip it

(02:14:23):
and say it's possible, guys.

Speaker 1 (02:14:25):
I gotta get you to speak one at a time
because you're over speaking each other and it doesn't come
through properly for live radio that that doesn't really work.
But I do want to I do want to get
to the point that he said, like like there is
concern here, like they everywhere you go, and Robin and
Christian and Christina, you guys will all know this. I'm

(02:14:48):
stating the obvious here. When we it doesn't matter where
you are in North America. You know what animals are
in your area, whether they're predatory or whether they are
just wild animals. It could be a badger, it could
be a deer, it could be a skunk, it could
be a bear, it could be anything. But you know

(02:15:10):
your list of animals, and for this, you know where
they're not recognizing any of the signs of the animals
that are in that area. That is concerning and to me,
that sounds more cryptid than it does something that is
natural to the area or I know in a lot

(02:15:31):
of the US states, you guys allow certain big animals,
whether it's tigers or lions, or leopards or whatever it
may be as pets. But it doesn't seem to be
one of those either. I don't know.

Speaker 11 (02:15:49):
I think we have to acknowledge the fact that there's
a good chance that it could be. I mean, realistically,
she hasn't seen anything. What else other than cryptids, aliens, elementals,
dimensionals can cloak if there's no physical body. Now the
other thing that and I have to flip my switch

(02:16:10):
on this and say that you know, from what you
guys have told me, because I didn't know what you
guys have shared tonight, it does sound more cryptid to me,
and that is a concern. You know, they've really got
the leg up on us with the whole cloaking thing.
But the other thing too is, you know, there is
this one person I saw that went on there and

(02:16:30):
said that she knew about or knew about the situation,
and which could have been all bs, and that they thought,
you know, that it was some type of a bear
or a big cat or whatever, but you would see them.
For nobody to see anything is very bizarre, very bizarre.
And if it was a regular dog, like just you know,

(02:16:54):
feral dog or whatever, they're not getting off you. They're
going to stay and keep shredding you. Whatever this thing was,
it didn't stick around.

Speaker 3 (02:17:03):
Another thing. And it's just the fact that in in
seconds it had stripped this woman's clothes completely. Offer and
I'm not trying to kick a dead horse here or
sound like a purf, but that's exactly.

Speaker 6 (02:17:14):
They don't want to eat denim. They don't want to
eat nyland.

Speaker 3 (02:17:16):
You know, that's one of the first things that happens
during an animal attack is the clothes get stripped off.
But it was done, and I mean it was boom,
it was done. Even then, when you listen to that
sheriff talk more, he talks about how she was completely
nude when they found her. Whatever it was, he had
to have sharp, sharp cloths and it shreded the clothes off.

Speaker 11 (02:17:35):
Yeah, and you know, I, like you said, Christian, I
agree with you. We're never going to find out. But
I would love to find the DNA in it.

Speaker 3 (02:17:43):
Oh God, of course, you know.

Speaker 11 (02:17:45):
But the only thing I saw on that was that
the DNA was being checked. But you know, who knows
what they're gonna say. If they're ever going to say,
the government would be all over it. But see that's
the other thing. By now, the government should have already
shut all talk about it down, and they haven't. And
that's a little bit to me. But maybe they're gonna
they're thinking that, you know, fish and wildlife. Usually it'll
come in and you know, oh it was this, it

(02:18:08):
was that, and it's just an animal. You know, Well,
we know what debsinality these things are, and.

Speaker 5 (02:18:15):
They'll convince her she didn't see what she thinks she saw.

Speaker 11 (02:18:20):
To me, it's very concerning. I think people in the
area need to be aware of it. I absolutely have
to be a little bit more careful. You know, there's
good and bad and everything. You know, I'll be the
first one to say, I get along fine with the dogmen,
but there are some really bad ones. I mean, just
like there are people. It's not listed, you know, strictly
to cryptids. I would prefer being with cryptids and I

(02:18:43):
would be humans. But you know, it's it is sounding
more and more like with the information you guys gave
me that this is something they need to take seriously
and be checking into.

Speaker 1 (02:18:53):
Well, here here's the other thing too. I'm just gonna
throw this out there. I mean, let's let's kind of
label this what it possibly could be. Is we got
about five minutes to go before the hour? Could it
have been a bigfoot? Is there bigfoot in those areas?
Could it have been could it have been a a
dog man? Or considering we are seeing an influx in

(02:19:17):
werewolf reports now, could it have been a were wolf?

Speaker 5 (02:19:23):
What anasco?

Speaker 12 (02:19:28):
Well?

Speaker 11 (02:19:28):
I was yeah, right, let's and the other thing. You know,
let's be real to me, if we're going to really
get picky about what this thing is. Rather than a
dog man, I would lay money of a gugly because
there have been physical attacks. There's just something about it.

(02:19:48):
I'm not saying it's a dog man. I'm saying there's
something about it that doesn't feel right to me. Call
it intuition, you know, call me a weirdo. Whatever, it doesn't.
Something isn't right about this.

Speaker 5 (02:20:00):
I thought it was just because you know it is.

Speaker 11 (02:20:07):
Yeah, But a gugwy, absolutely, Gugwys will go and they've
killed humans before in broad daylight for no reason, no provocation.
They are cannibalistic in nature, and they are that aggressive,
and there would have been a growl with it. I mean,
I highly doubt that when that time was going on,

(02:20:29):
she was looking at this grow going, boy, does that
sound like a dog? Does it sound like a kangaroo?
What does it sound like? She hurt? A growl? And
the first thing we would go to would be the dogmen.
But like I said, and I'm happy to say that,
it could be there's something to me that just doesn't
feel right, and I would be leaning more towards a gugway.

(02:20:50):
A gugley will come out of nowhere and chase down
a human and attack them. They don't care if there's
a thousand people watching. They just don't care. They're soulless,
they're evil in their case animals, and they would absolutely
attack like that, and they would shred everything like that
and then be gone in a heartbeat. If they felt
like they were cornered.

Speaker 3 (02:21:09):
I mean that would explain for the month, you know,
the skin loss, Like say, it wouldn't surprise me either way.
But you know in the growl that the other thing
that got me on the guy because you know, her
face wasn't attacked and usually a gugwage just bites the fate.
You know how they attack, They go right for the head.

Speaker 11 (02:21:25):
Well, well they'll go for anything they can get.

Speaker 3 (02:21:28):
Like I said, you can be undercent, right, we don't know.
We're not gonna know.

Speaker 5 (02:21:33):
She's missing skin and she has to have you know
that many surgeries.

Speaker 3 (02:21:37):
Well, well, the thing was is, you know, Lance is
a doctor, and he said the way they described the
way they put on so much gauze, they put on
so much gauds. He said it was a specific type
of wound where flesh was missing. So he said that
was on her arm and on the right side.

Speaker 1 (02:21:52):
So McCallister, Oklahoma is a population of about eighteen thousand
and seven hundred people. It is kind of tucked in
by the Pocahontas Mountains. Have we had reports around the
Pocahontas mountains of these creatures.

Speaker 11 (02:22:15):
Oklahoma has got them all over, Gugley included. They're not
whether you're talking about a sasquatcha dogmen, or agugly. They
are not just set in certain areas. Like for me,
I'm leaning towards the gugy, but that's just my own opinion.
Doesn't mean it's right. But you know, you're talking about
the mountains. When you get up in the mountain areas,

(02:22:37):
all that stuff hides in there. They get way up
in there, they come down off the mountain whenever they
dine well please, and then anything can happen, you know.
We there was a couple that was actually the husband
ended up dead from a Gugley attack out of nowhere,
broad daylight. They were out in their own backyard. They
had found these weird structures made in it. I'm not

(02:22:58):
going to go into the state because it's not my place,
but and these things were not even there was no provocation.
They came out after this couple and the woman went
running towards the house. The husband tried to make it
to the house and they got hold of him. He
tried to get up a tree to get away from it,

(02:23:20):
and of course they went right up the tree. I mean,
this poor woman watched her husband get murdered by these
things and there was nothing left. I mean they tore
skin off of him, flesh off of him, close off
of him. They weren't specific as far as a head attack.
It was his entire body, you know. I mean, something

(02:23:40):
that's that hostile, that out of nowhere runs up to
a gate. I mean, yeah, you can get a dog
one attack, you can get a sasquatch attack, but it
really takes a lot of provocation for them go up
to the home like that, you know what I mean, gug,
we don't care. They literally don't care. If there's a
stadium full of people, yarn.

Speaker 5 (02:24:01):
You're more likely to attack during the day than the others.

Speaker 11 (02:24:06):
A goggle will attack at any time, day or night.
I work with a clan, and.

Speaker 1 (02:24:14):
We gotta go to break bottom of the Robin Haynes
and the Cryptied Q and A with special guests Christian
and Christina from American Crypted at Paranormal Society. We'll be
back in the final half hour of the show.

Speaker 4 (02:24:29):
This is Faced Out Radio and your host's name Scott.

Speaker 1 (02:24:59):
All Right, I'm just kind of showing you an area here,
guys of the map here from Google. So apparently in
the area of the Poconas Mountains of I'll wait, I'll
wait to say that when we're on the air. But
never mind, Colin Collins, how you doing. And let me

(02:25:23):
just pull up the map here so you can see
the mountain ranges in between here. And there's a lot
of waterways and areas in here. Not much forest, but enough.

(02:25:51):
So she was right here. This is where she lived.
It doesn't seem to be a forested areas in this area.
I mean, granted, we don't know where she lived, but.

Speaker 3 (02:26:07):
This is this happened in the north This happened in
the northwest section of Blanco. Let's be up here more.
And there's play. If you look up at the northwest section,
that's all that, that's all it's all green man, there's lakes.

Speaker 1 (02:26:28):
That's a big body of water right there.

Speaker 3 (02:26:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:26:33):
Yeah. Because in the reports it said she was from McAllister, she.

Speaker 3 (02:26:37):
Was in Blanco, and she was in the northwest corner.
And she was barely in Blanco. She was closer to
almost another town.

Speaker 1 (02:26:43):
Where was Blanco? Let me find out where Blanco is?

Speaker 3 (02:27:00):
There you go, So she was in the northwest corner
of Blanco looking for a job, and that's where she
lived up there. But this is where the attack happened.
So look at all the look at all the emptiness
around it, and that's all wilderness.

Speaker 1 (02:27:16):
I'm a lot of people in Blanco. Nope, I don't
even think they have a spirit of seventy six there.

Speaker 3 (02:27:24):
I look at look at all that space, look at
all the greenery, looking at all the forest.

Speaker 1 (02:27:39):
They don't even have a freaking gas station here. All right,
let's find out where we've got about two minutes here.

Speaker 3 (02:28:05):
H m m h m hmm.

Speaker 1 (02:28:17):
Yeah, I did have it in Blanco. Sorry about that's
all right? Yeah, I mean if she's on this side,
I mean that's a big forest.

Speaker 3 (02:28:29):
Yeah, that's where. That's where it happened, upper northwest side,
So right where you are, that's all where it happened
right there. Look at that, Look at that, that's all
oh pick forest.

Speaker 1 (02:28:46):
I mean that's a lot of coverage there, mm hmmm,
especially if you head to the west here, yep.

Speaker 3 (02:28:59):
I mean you could live to travel and not be
saying you can go through forest the whole time to Robin.
You're right, I don't know what the hell that is,
you know what I mean? That is interesting how much
you guys want to bet the DNA's either gonna come
back there or unidentified contaminated.

Speaker 1 (02:29:23):
I would say you're right on that. Are there wolves
in the area?

Speaker 3 (02:29:27):
I don't know, Oklahoma, I didn't have to ask Robin that.
I don't I honestly don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:29:31):
Where's the robinator.

Speaker 3 (02:29:33):
She's right there. You've got a blank outs.

Speaker 1 (02:29:36):
Sorry, Robin, sorry about that.

Speaker 11 (02:29:38):
I'm sorry, No, I mean I think it's definitely encryptid.
I you know, I'm not gonna say it's not a
dog man, but the violence of it to me seems
more like a gugway personally.

Speaker 3 (02:29:52):
Now look at all that space, rob I mean, it
could be anything, any of them.

Speaker 1 (02:30:01):
There are no wolves in the area. Coyotes, of course
there are.

Speaker 11 (02:30:08):
I think they'll come back and say that there's canine
in it, because she said it had a growl and
it was dog like, and I think that's kind of
said it.

Speaker 1 (02:30:16):
And here we go, guys, We're into the final half

(02:30:36):
hour of spaced out Radio tonight, The Cryptid Q and
A with Robin Haynes happening right now as we are
talking about this weird case in Oklahoma, Blanco, Oklahoma of
a lady who recently got mauled by some thing that
she described as a dog. But the sheriff of the

(02:30:56):
county basically says, we don't know what this was that
bawled her. It doesn't match any of the predatorial animals
in our area. What that means, we don't know. But
we're talking about it tonight. Robin Hayes is here and
from American Cryptid, a paranormal society. We have the Cryptid guy,

(02:31:17):
Christian MacLeod. Christina is here with them. We bring you
guys back in now. Looking at a map of this
area of Blanco, Oklahoma, if you bring it up on
Google Maps, that you put it on the topography of it,
which is actually the color and not just like a
street map. There is a lot of forested areas for

(02:31:38):
anything big to hide in here.

Speaker 11 (02:31:41):
Robin, Oh yeah, I mean, in my opinion, I think
it's definitely a cryptid. But I mean they honestly nobody
saw anything. The only thing that it could lead to
is a cryptid. I tend to lean more towards the
gugwy just because of the I mean, not that dogman
can't have a violent attack. But because of the wounds,
the shrutting of the clothing, all of it, I'm not

(02:32:03):
saying it could be a dog man, but you know
the gug we have a snout as well. They typically
have the grol and they are not shy about going
up to someone's home. Not that a dogmen wouldn't. We
know that there are some cases where that's happened, So
it would have to be either the dogmen or the Gugway.

Speaker 1 (02:32:23):
What I think we need to find out, Christian and
Christina is we really need to find out the footprints.
The footprints are going to give it away. What did
the footprints look like? And obviously there is going to
be somebody who has taken pictures of these footprints. If
there was footprints left, I mean you're home to.

Speaker 3 (02:32:43):
Right, because we'll be able to tell. You know, if
she's not's what's going to have the claws and you
know if it's Gugway, it might not. So depending on
what the footprints, right, you're ex hubserent, right. But the
problem is is how are you going to get the footprints?
Like who's who's in charge of that whole area? You
know they've already brought in the FEDS. So I think

(02:33:04):
what's gonna happen is tomorrow we'll hear possible bear or
coyotes attack and that'll be it. Then they're gonna hush
it up and all the information is gonna disappear, and
I'll just be one of those things that just don't
talks about.

Speaker 1 (02:33:16):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:33:16):
The only way you can keep something like this alive
is to, you know, keep talking about it. But you
have to have there's gonna have to be a whistleblowerre's
gonna have to be something that shows the pictures and
the evidence. And if we could get the DNA results
that would that would be quintessential for me. But I'm
sure it's already the fix is already in. I mean,
the second they brought the FEDS in, I'm sure that

(02:33:38):
DNA was swapped. It was probably swapped right there. There's
here test this. Don't worry about that. Well, either coyote
or bear or something like that.

Speaker 11 (02:33:48):
The fact that they brought the FEDS in right there
is really telling. Yeah, you know what I mean, the
locals aren't handling this. The Feds are already in on it.
They're all over, which means it's already covered up. It'll
be it'll be a bear, it'll be a kyo, it'll
be anything under the sun other than what it is.
But none of those things cloak. And like I said,

(02:34:11):
I am more than happy to say that the possibility
of it being a dogmen is there. Let's be real.

Speaker 3 (02:34:17):
But the other thing is is you're right, but all
three of those entities can take a blast from a
gun and run away from it. So that's the other thing, you.

Speaker 11 (02:34:24):
Know, well, And I want to hear more about this
whole gun thing, because if you're going to shoot a gun,
I mean, was the gun just shot up in the areas?

Speaker 3 (02:34:32):
We have no idea, We have no idea if it
even happened. All she said was to her sister in law,
she heard the growl a gunshot, and that's it. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:34:41):
See, I think the big key to a lot of
this is whoever did the gun shot? What did they see?
If they saw nothing, did they fire a warning shot
because they couldn't hear it. They could or they heard
it but they couldn't see it. It was you know,
that's really brazen to do it at that time of
day by the fence. That kind of thing. Now, any
cryptid could have done that absolutely, But again, a Gugwy

(02:35:04):
does not care what the place is, the time is.
I don't care if there's a football field of people there,
they do not care. They just don't care. They have
one thing goal in mind, and that is shredding the victim. Okay,
I've not heard of anybody that has not gone after
them that did not get completely shredded by him. And

(02:35:25):
like you said that one couple, that's what had happened
to that guy as well. And some of the attacks
that the Gugwy have done on the Sasquatch were not
just a facial tack. They were completely torn apart throughout
their whole body. But it could have been any of
the cryptids. I mean, realistically, we don't know the temperament

(02:35:46):
of the ones there. We all know that there's good
and bad and everything. So and there's plenty of coverage there. Clearly,
the woods is all over the place. It could have
been anything. But the other thing to think about as well,
and I've talked about this before when it comes to
like the missing four one one cases and stuff like that.
You know, I mean, that obviously is Dave Plotti's thing,
but all the missing people in the parks and whatever.

(02:36:08):
Do you know, guys, the least thing you have to
worry about is the sasquatch in the dogmen. Yes, there
are some that are gone because of them, but there
are worse things out there than the sasquatch and a
dog man. So we cannot rule out that something of
that nature could have come in at this woman as well.
And every single one of the bloody things can cloak.

Speaker 3 (02:36:29):
That's the scary part. You don't see it coming, you know, really,
you know what's really sad about this, this whole story
is this poor woman was looking for work and she's
more farm work to help support her family as her
husband's waiting for a kidney transplant, and then this happens
to her. This is horrible, horrible set of circumstances. What

(02:36:51):
I'm gonna do is I'm gonna take I'm gonna find
that go fundme and I'm gonna put that on my website.
And Dave, I think you would do that. That'd be
a cool thing too, just to help the people out,
because this is just tragedy. I mean, this is a
woman and you never, you never. She's never gonna get
the story. She's never gonna get what really happened.

Speaker 11 (02:37:09):
No, this this is going to be completely varied, you know.
But it's like I was out with the dogmen and
the Sasquatch on Sunday twice. I was out by myself.
They were just walking around, you know. So, I mean,
there's good and bad and everything, but there's something about
this that there. Honestly, from what you know, you guys

(02:37:32):
have told me, there was no provocation, So why doesn't
sound like it.

Speaker 5 (02:37:38):
We would know what the guy with the gun was doing.
There may have been some provocation beforehand.

Speaker 11 (02:37:44):
Exactly as I'm saying. I think that whole gun situation
has a lot to do with it. If there were footprints,
the Feds have already got those wrapped up there gone,
nobody's going to get them. But again, like I said,
there are other cryptids besides Sasquatch and dogmen that we
cannot roll out, and Gugly is one of them. And
those suckers do not care who's there. They're soulless, they

(02:38:05):
don't care what they do. They do it when they want,
how they want. You know, it's pretty bad. It's just
really sad. And this poor woman, she'll have nightmares about
this for the rest of her life.

Speaker 5 (02:38:16):
And she's just she's gonna have to have a ton
of surgery.

Speaker 3 (02:38:19):
So she sho five more together, five more surgeries to go.
It's horrible, there is.

Speaker 1 (02:38:30):
You know these stories that have happened before. I mean,
going back a few years ago, there was the three
year old boy or four year old boy who was
taken from his yard for two days and he said,
and that was in North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (02:38:44):
That was right up the street from us, actually where the.

Speaker 1 (02:38:47):
Boy said, a teddy bear took care of him and
fed him and kept him warm. That child in those
weather conditions, because it happened in winter, should have had frostbite,
should have been should have had a lot of cold.
And yet he was warm. And the brier patch that
they found him in had been searched that area four

(02:39:09):
or five times. And then he was in the middle
of a brier patch. No rips on his clothing outside
of the points from the briers. There was no scratches
on him. He was not harmed, and all he said
was a big teddy bear took care of him. Now,
and sorry, Robin, for people who don't understand the wilderness.

(02:39:31):
If a bear wakes up during hibernation they are angry,
and they are hungry. A four year old is a
perfect meal snack.

Speaker 11 (02:39:44):
Yeah, exactly typical sasquatch behavior. The females will put the
babies in a briar patch or in something that will
be protective for them that another predator would not normally
go into to keep them safe. That is absolutely sasquatch behavior.
And I have no reason to believe the dogmen wouldn't

(02:40:04):
do the same. But in that particular case, I firmly
believe that that was a sasquatch. There's no other explanation.
There's been countless case, countless cases where that kind of
actions have happened multiple times where sasquatch has taken a
child that's lost and depositive on somebody else's doorstop. I mean,

(02:40:27):
it's it's just it's happened too many times. And the
whole thing about the brier. I had a female in
Michigan that we had a part of the property that
dipped kind of low and it would flood a lot
and there was like all these tall reeds, just huge
reeds and cattails and everything that would grow in there.
And she every day when she would go out to
hunter or whatever, she'd put the baby in there every

(02:40:48):
day and she let.

Speaker 3 (02:40:51):
It's that's yeah, that's that's the story. I remember that
when that broke here, the share of the town, he's
the one, he said. He basically shoot the press out.
He's like, we're not taking any questions.

Speaker 2 (02:41:08):
And that was it.

Speaker 3 (02:41:08):
You never all you heard about was a kid coming
home and he said a big teddy bear saved them,
and that was it. That was it. They didn't do
any interviews, didn't do anything else after that. They shut down.

Speaker 1 (02:41:20):
I think they shut down the parents from talking to
Oh God, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 11 (02:41:25):
You know. But the thing I want to point out is,
and I feel bad for this woman in this respect
as well. When there are good things done, like bringing
the little boy back, and again that's happened countless times,
more stories than you can talk about. Those stories are shushed.
They're quiet. It's like it never happened. Let somebody get shredded,

(02:41:49):
and they will. The government will come in and change
it around and make it a wild animal. Yes, but
it's talked about constantly because sensationalism sells, and they would
rather paint a picture of any cryptids or anything in
the paranormal spectrum is being violent and aggressive. Then they
will ever say, look at there was a kindness shown.

Speaker 5 (02:42:10):
That's that statement. If it bleeds, it leads, yeah down there.
That's because it gets the audience itself.

Speaker 11 (02:42:17):
Yeah it does. It sells, and that sensationalismselves. Whatever's more horrific,
whats ever more graphic? It grabs the audience's attention. You know.
Now I feel for this woman because I don't think
anybody will ever know the truth, and it will haunt
her forever, and that's not fair for her.

Speaker 5 (02:42:34):
You know.

Speaker 11 (02:42:34):
I pray for her because what she went through nobody
should go through, regardless of what did it. But to me,
it sounds like some kind of cryptid I'm personally leaning
more towards the gug. Week could be a dog man,
It could be a sasquatch, because they'll all growl. Let's
be real.

Speaker 5 (02:42:51):
You know.

Speaker 11 (02:42:51):
I had one in my next door neighbors yard and
was standing there and the guy didn't realize that it
was standing there. I went to throw some stuff into
the brush and he heard to growl, and he looked
up and here's this gargantuan sasquatch standing. They never touched him,
never did anything till we just growled at him. Then
it cloaked, you know, scared the crap out of him.
I mean, this is a six foot three large man

(02:43:13):
and it absolutely terrified him. But the reality of it
is is you never know. It could be any of them,
and there's so many unknown cryptids, like we can't forget
about that, we really can't. You know, the Sasquatch call
him the makaia either walks the earth that has no name,
and there are a ton of them.

Speaker 3 (02:43:31):
Yeah, I was doing a TV show with the Discovery
Channel and we got growled at. But it started on
the infrared spectrum and then it went up. The guy
with the JIT recorder here, I agree. I'm saying, if
they growl at you getting close. Now, we didn't see
where it was. I heard it. I mean it was
like right to our left and down the little bit
of an embankment, but that that was all undo. There's

(02:43:55):
a recording and it started in the infrastund level and
it came all the way up and that was like
we just backed down, picked ugular. But you're right, they
growl at you. That's that's just a warning. I'm surprised
you've heard graul it sounding this they had it's mind
made up just to attack or the seconds are see.

Speaker 11 (02:44:10):
That's what I mean, And to me, that's more gug
we Yeah, like the dogmen. The thing about the dogmen
is not that they won't And do you hear stories
all the time about dogmen attacks. I mean, look at
the LBL and sasquatch attacks. Okay, you can go to
downtown to train and get attacked by humans easier than
you can bet the LBL. So it's not just because
they're a dogmen. And I know I harp on that,

(02:44:32):
but I just think it's they gets such a bad rap.
I've had good luck with them. I have talked to
bad ones before and dealt with them, but mostly they've
been pleasant. I've enjoyed it. But there is so many
cryptids out there that people are not aware even exists.
They don't even have a term for them. That's why
the Sasquatch call all the ones that have no name

(02:44:52):
of Makaiah, and any of those things can do exactly
what was done to her. But what I do know
what the dogmen is most of them not all clearly.
They're more stoic, They're more reclusive than a Sasquatch you've
got a better chance of seeing a sasquatch than you
do the dog. Then you know, they'd rather just be
left alone. They don't want to be messed with most

(02:45:12):
of the time. There's a couple of them that are
kind of funny, characters that are different, that are kind.
But it you know, obviously it could be a dogman.
But I'm just saying I don't think we can roll
out the other cryptids as well.

Speaker 1 (02:45:27):
We got about six minutes to go here before we
have to shut it down. Tonight, on an interesting conversation
about a lady in Oklahoma who was mauled by what
she believed was a dog growling, but police in the
area basically said, we're not sure what attacked her, and

(02:45:47):
it doesn't seem to be like any predatory animal out there. So,
I mean, it's easy for people like us to get
right into the cryptid side of things. Robin, Okay, it's
very easy for us to say, Okay, it wasn't a
pack of coyotes, it wasn't a pack of wolves. You know,

(02:46:11):
there are no wolves in that area of Blanco, Oklahoma.
It wasn't you know, a dog with mange that you know,
maybe it was one of them big bull mastiffs. That's
one hundred and eighty pounds. I mean, could it have
been something like that? You know, I think you know,
I'm leaning towards cryptid. I am one hundred percent leaning

(02:46:34):
towards cryptid. But do we not have to look for
for answers regarding potential logical creatures.

Speaker 5 (02:46:46):
A real dog wouldn't have been able to shred things
that fast. They don't have sharp talent claus So I
think I think the regular dog or a wolf in
the area.

Speaker 11 (02:46:58):
Is kind of out well, I'm sorry, sweet ahead, no
please please now for me, it was pretty cut and
dry of a encryptid as soon as I heard she
saw nothing. Any predator that attacks you. Once the attack starts,
it stays and finishes the job. It's not a hit
and run, okay. So and nobody saw anything if there

(02:47:23):
is a visual even if they said, you know, it
was looks like about two hundred pounds or it's just anything,
any visual of anything, there was none, okay. So a
regular flesh and blood animals, although they are very high frequency,
they do not cloak. So if there's nothing there, an

(02:47:45):
attack is happening to the extent that this poor sweet
woman had happened. The only logical reason is because something
had to be able to cloak. So as soon as
you have those injuries, see nothing. Now. She turns around
and says, my memory came back.

Speaker 5 (02:48:00):
I saw this.

Speaker 11 (02:48:01):
I could believe that it was an actual predator. But
as of today she has no memory of seeing anything
other than hearing a growl. She heard a growl. She
sees nothing. Nobody sees nothing. This woman is shredded to pieces.
There is no physical animal that can do that. The
only thing that can do that is something that cloaks,
which puts you into the paranormal spectrum, which throws it
back on the cryptids.

Speaker 3 (02:48:23):
You're exactly right.

Speaker 2 (02:48:24):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:48:24):
This reminds you remember the beginning of Jaws where they
find that one poor woman got eaten and they're like, oh,
it was a boat motor. Yeah, you know, and then
then you know, that's exactly what's gonna happen here. You're
gonna you're gonna find out. She'll wake up in a
couple of days after she's had some therapy and someone's
talked to her, and she's gonna say it was a bear.

(02:48:45):
It was an angry bear. That's what happened. Yeah, that's
that's why I saw it was a bear. I was
just so scared. I didn't think and I looked back.
Remember it was a bear. And that'll be the end
of it, because someone will get to her and you know,
probably take care of all the medical bills.

Speaker 11 (02:49:00):
Well, they're going to plant that in her mind until
she actually believes that that's what it was. Because the
human brain is third dimensional. Okay, it cannot accept anything
in the paranormal spectrum. You get that through higher frequency,
through the collective consciousness. The third dimensional brain cannot deal

(02:49:22):
it's not equipped to deal with anything outside of the physical.
So her own brain is going to talk her into
believing that it was a physical animal, it was nothing
in that paranormal spectrum, and then she's going to have
everybody else on her going, no, it had to have
been this, it had to have been that, and the
power of suggestion because she has a third dimensional brain,
is going to overrule it. But what they're missing is

(02:49:46):
that anytime anything happens, good, bad, or and different, your
first reaction is because your body reads the energy of it.
And that's the truest response she'll get before that third
dimensional brain can shut down anything. It's the way the
process works. So now she's time for that brain to
shut down at being anything paranormal, anything to do with
a cryptid, and it's going to go right back to

(02:50:07):
the flesh and blood animals. And then she's got people
feeding her information and it's all gonna I agree with
Christian and Christina, it's going to go all the way
back to it's a wild animal. On top of the fact,
let's be real, guys, how many FEDS come in for
if it's a bear attack. I never, yeah, exactly, because

(02:50:28):
it wasn't. It was a cryptid attack. We just don't
know which one. And I think we would be very
remiss if we just pinned it on one specific cryptid
when there are so many cryptids out there and so
many that we do not know, and a lot of
them can be very hostile. And again I'm not saying
for sure it's a gugly, but the wholemo on it,
to me, is more gugly than it is anything else.

Speaker 1 (02:50:52):
It's gonna be so so much fun. And you know what, Christian,
I'm gonna leave it to you on this one to
try and do a follow up on this, because we
definitely want to be able to hear what has come
next with this one.

Speaker 3 (02:51:06):
I'll tell you what I will. I will call an
email lance because he's got like this finger on the
pulls of all this. Whether he calls or emails me back,
I don't know. I don't you know, he's you know,
he's pretty high up in the echelon. He's a busy guy.
But I'll be more than happy to look into this
because to me, this is fascinating because you know the
other thing para, Marvin just made a really good point.

(02:51:27):
All this is happening to this poor woman. Plus she's
on heavy narcotic painkillers, all right, so suggesting things to
her and that's probably going to be planted in there.
I don't know if you guys have ever been, you know,
under sedation. I have, And if someone's saying stuff to you,
you're hearing it, you know, on that subconscious like Robin's
talking about. That might just be enough to put it

(02:51:47):
in there.

Speaker 5 (02:51:47):
But you something called verse said Medazza Lamb. That's a
hypnotic that you could tell anybody anything.

Speaker 1 (02:51:53):
All right, Robin Haynes a great cryptid report. Thank you
Christian and Christina for sticking around as we say good
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