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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello and welcome to the radio and podcast side of
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Speaker 1 (01:36):
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tickets for a great weekend. In beautiful British Columbia's oneaw
eight mile Ranch, we have an amazing show tonight. You
usually hear this guy in our number three to kick
things off, but we got him for the next couple
of hours. Swampdweller is here to tell some monster stories

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from around North America and the world. Then in our
number three, Swamp Dweller again will join us for another
spooky story, except this time it'll be recorded, not live.
Right after that, we have the Cryptid Q and a
Robin Haynes is going to be here. We're going to
get into the Patterson Gimblin film, which is causing all
sorts of ruckus right now in the Bigfoot world. Swamp

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Dweller is a popular storyteller and creator known for his
chilling narrations of creepypastas, folklores, and real life encounters with
mysterious creatures on his popular channel on YouTube called swamp
Dweller Go Figure. He has built a large audience of
listeners who tune in for atmospheric storytelling that dives into

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the darker quarters of legend and unexplained phenomena, including true
crime and much more. His content often features tales of
strange happenings in the wilderness, encounters with cryptids, and unsettling
stories submitted by viewers from around the world. With a
distinctive voice and immersive storytelling style, Swampy brings life to

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his stories involving monsters, folklore, paranormal events, unexplayed mysteries, lurking
in the forests and mountains and forgotten places. His channel
has become a go to destination for fans of horror, narration,
cryptid encounters, and so much more. But more so around
these parts. We love it that Swampy allows us to

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play his stories to kick off our number three of
this show. Each and every night. Let's bring him on
in swamp Dweller. How you doing, my friend? It's good
to have you back on spaced Out Radio.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
It's good to be here, brother, glad to finally be
back in the swamped Out Radio universe. My friend, I
love it.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
You know.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
The one thing I've always laughed about with you, by
Fred And I mean this in a complimentary way. All
of a sudden, you'll like disappear for like five six months,
and then all of a sudden you'll be like in
our chat room all the night and you'll be like, hey, guys,
I'm I'm back. What's going on, what's happening? How y'all been?
It's always fun to watch you disappear. But you have
another career too. You are, you know, the frontman of

(04:57):
a metal band called burn Absolute, and you're always rocking
out somewhere. Man.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, dude, I go through a lot of I guess
you could call it like hobbies. So like you obviously
I do the metal thing with burn Absolute, which I'm
touring multiple times a year with them, and then you know,
I'm just doing stuff all over YouTube. You know, I
might not be here, but I'm still here, if you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, you know what, we love you around here, and
I always say to people, you know, I listen to
your content, probably the most out of anybody on YouTube,
because you know, not only have we been friends for
a long time, but the good part about it is
I love your storytelling, I love your narration, I love
your abilities. You started this channel, You've got over three

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hundred thousand subscribers. You started this channel from very humble beginnings.
How did it begin for you? What made you do this?

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Just the pure love of the paranormal and encounters I
had in life. I mean, realistically, I always have to
do this, and I say this out of pure love.
I have to give vik Kunda from dog Man Encounters
a big, big credit to why I'm even here. I
started doing narrations before him. But when I had a

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strange encounter one day and ruled Danelle in Florida, same
area that Cheepish Creepers was filmed on, same exact road
actually with something that I couldn't explain, kind of looked
like a were wolf, kind of looked like a dog man.
So I went on dog Man Encounters. This is probably
early twenty sixteen, maybe early twenty fifteen, something along those lines,

(06:40):
and kind of told Vick about my story, and you know,
he told me in the behind the scenes that he's like, hey,
I think you have a great voice. I think you'd
be a great person to represent this topic. I think
you should do more with this. And it took me
close to two years after that to actually do something
with it. I started a podcast called swamp Dog Chronicles.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
For a while.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Oh, I interviewed everybody who is anybody in the crypti world,
Scott Martis, Joy, Jody Cook, excuse me, Linda Godfried, you know,
whoever was anybody of anybody, basically everybody from Monster Quest.
And you know, after three seasons of that, it kind
of became like, dang, I feel like I've asked all

(07:20):
the questions I can possibly ask here. And I had
all these people sending me stories, and all these people
sending me stuff that was like anonymous and behind the
scenes because they didn't want to come on the show.
So I started thinking. I was like, how could I
turn this into something different? So I started I was like,
you know, I got a friend named King Spook. He
ran a really big creepypasta channel at the time, and

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I had some friends who did some other like narration
channels like Unit five twenty two, and they were like, hey,
why don't you just try doing what we do, but
with the topics that you do. So that's where I
started doing the scary dog man stories and the Bigfoot
stories and narrating it all and stuff like that, and
blessedly it all worked out.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Do you ever kind of look at it and say, Man,
this is just weird how this all worked out? Like
how did this happen? I mean, you've got to feel
pretty good about yourself and what you've accomplished.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, all the time. Man, I came from a you know,
I don't like to talk about it too much, but
I came from a very neglected background, if I could
say so simply. You know, I was kind of in
a very very bad spot. I was living in my car,
basically living out of the parking lot of the place
I worked, and you know, any chance I got was like,

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I gotta do something that's going to get me out
of the situation. So, you know, I had a passion
for what I was doing, and any time I was
in my car, I was just recording these YouTube videos,
whether it was lunch for an hour, whether it was
you know, the six hours I would spend in my
car between shifts or whatever, you know, and I would
just try to upload as much as I can. So

(08:52):
that first year was like sometimes three four videos a
day of just getting the content out there while I could.
And after a while it took off, and you know,
it's just been one of those things to where it
just kept growing and growing, and I never stopped being consistent,
and I just kept trying to make something of what
I had. And at the end of the day, I

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just always had this affinity for the paranormal and the cryptids,
and I just wanted to know, like, what the heck's
going on there, And you know, the more I got
into it, the more I had weird experiences. And the
more I started going out into rural areas with my
friends and with the intention of, hey, let's experience something,
the more I started having these strange experiences. And after

(09:35):
a while, I was like, why don't I just share
this with the world, like, I don't need to ask
people questions because I've already been experiencing this myself, so
let me just tell them my experiences. And then it
built into people sending me their experiences, and you know,
it kind of just built into what it is now.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
You have really made your own career for yourself in
doing this. I mean not a lot of people have
the ability to do that, and YouTube it keeps on getting,
you know, tougher and tougher with their change and algorithms
or change of you know, what makes a channel popular.
How have you been able to kind of do this

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and live your best life the way you can through
being a social media content creator.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
You know, you just diversify, right, You get yourself on
every platform possible, and you know, after a while, I
kind of started different channels and stuff, looking into different
types of content. You know, I've always been a big
true crime guy. I've always been a big justice guy, like, hey,
let's protect the youth kind of guy. So earlier you

(10:44):
sh had Uncle Swampy D. That's that's my second channel.
We've got about thirty three thousand subscribers over there. You know,
we look into other things that are not paranormal, but
you know, we hope people countable over there, and you know,
I don't want to promote too much here, so but basic,
you know, for me, it's always just been like, how
can I get myself on every platform possible? How can

(11:05):
I make content about all the things I'm passionate about,
whether it be justice, whether it be paranormal, et cetera,
And what can I do to just make this world
a better place? You know, my whole life's thing has
just been like dang. You know, my upbringing was entirely bleak.
It was entirely like wow, why did that have to happen?

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So as an adult, I've always been like, let me
make sure that doesn't happen for other people. Let me
be like a positive change of people's life, whether it
be music, whether it be YouTube videos, whether it be anything.
Me be something that can help people, you know, distract
themselves from those problems, or you know, find something that
can get them away from those problems. And when it
came to like the whole cryptid thing, my biggest thing

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was like I had these weird experiences and didn't know
how to explain them. So I searched out things that
were similar and that's how I found dog man encounters
at first. And without that, like I said earlier, I
wouldn't be where I am now. So if I never
put that effort into searching into these things, because like
you could have this weird experience and most people were like,
you know, let me put that behind me. I'm probably

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just tired whatever. For whatever reason, I put in that
extra effort, and I guess I should share a quick story.
Is the reason why I put in that extra effort
is because I started having all these sleep proalyssis experiences
and I had never in my life ever had sleep
prowless experiences before that. So after this encounter with this
alleged dog man, I started having these crazy dreams where

(12:33):
I would be like paralyzed on my bed and I
would see these red eyes and this snout and these
big teeth at the end of my bed and I
would just be screaming and freaking out. And at the
time I was still living with my parents. I was
only eighteen nineteen years old, so they would come in
the room like what's going on, and I'm just I
don't have any explanation for them, and that's when I

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really started getting deeper and deeper into it. So me
and my friend Dalton at the time and would start
going into the woods near a house and trying to
find these things. And that's when I started realizing that
if you're looking for something, you'll find it, And that's
when I stopped looking for these things. If I'm honest
with you, that's where, like my dog Man experience is
kind of stop. I have a story after that that

(13:16):
I could share later. But after that story, I was like,
I never want to see anything like that again, and
I never want to experience anything like that again.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
But you're also a guy who puts yourself out there.
You're not just somebody who's taken a story. You're you're
writing a story. You're somebody who is who is actually
out there trying to make you know things happen as well.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, I think the power of belief is very powerful,
you know. So if I can't put myself out there,
how can I be a realistic source for you guys? Right,
A lot of people will always say like, you sound
like you're emotionally attached to these stories, and I am
because I've experienced it, you know, I've been there, and
I feel like that just gives me that little bit

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more credibility. And that's why from the beginning, I was like,
if I'm gonna be anybody who's sharing these stories, I
need to understand what these people are seeing and how
they're feeling. And you know, the few outings I've I
had early on, well, I can tell you right now
I was genuinely terrified. Now I'm pretty like numb to it, right,

(14:25):
Like I could see some crazy stuff and be like
all right, brother, hell yeah, But like back then, I
was just like, nah, I was terrified. I could tell
you a story where me and my buddy Dalton, he
was my first friend when it came to this whole thing,
and we were just sitting by his house. He had
like this long mile long dirt driveway and we were
just chilling out, spoken of cigarettes in my car after work.

(14:46):
I was about to drop them off, and we slowly
watched what I swear to my life was this dog man,
I swear to God, slowly creeping up on us. And
I noticed it from like hundred yards back. We had
one little like very orange street light, and like I

(15:06):
just saw the silhouette from far back and I ignored
it at first, and I was like, nah, nothing is nothing,
but like, I started getting this anxiety in my chest
that I'd never felt in my life. And I started
looking at my buddy and he was like staring at
the rear view, not the room with me, ascuse me,
the driver's side, you know, passenger mirror. And I was like,
what is he looking at? And I started looking at

(15:27):
my window. I was like, oh, is he looking at
the same thing I am? And that's when I was like, hey, dude,
you know do you see that? And he's like, yeah,
I see that. And I swear, within like zero point
five seconds, I somehow turned on my car and just
floored on the gas and drove all the way back
to my house. He was probably like six miles from
my house. He lived in like the very back of

(15:47):
the neighborhood. No no high speed internet, nothing like that.
But the front of our neighborhood was kind of more
I guess you could say, like modern, right, but we
were still like six miles outside of the actual like
little town we lived in. And yeah, and when I
say town, there was like maybe seven hundred residents, so
it wasn't anything crazy, but you know, there's some early

(16:08):
stories like when I got into doing this and why
I stayed doing it for as many years as I have. Now,
you know, almost eleven years into it.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
I have never seen a dog. Man. I don't want to,
but I think that time is short. What's it like
to see what looks to be a werewolf with your
own eyes?

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Man? I feel so uneasy saying this because I'm in
so many Norman craws these days. But I'll be so real.
It was the deepest fear I have ever and I
mean genuinely ever felt in my life. I saw this,
I made eye contact with this thing. Oh my. And
this is a midday experience. This is a completely different experience.

(16:53):
It's probably like two three weeks later, me and my
buddy Dalton again are back at this little lake that's
in the back of our neighborhood. When I say neighborhood again,
it's just a rural area where there was like one
subdivision in the front, and we're like seven miles back
from that where it's just all Florida evergladest type shit,
you know, so like we're like we're like in the

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thick of it. It's just nothing but lakes, and gators
and all kinds of stuff, and I just look back
and I make eye contact with this incredibly dark shadow,
but it has these pointy ears and this very clear, pronounced,
elongated snout. But it was black like I'm telling you.

(17:37):
This was like maybe two pm latest in the day
peak sun in Florida, and this thing was black like
it like there was no definition to it. And I
just remember being stuck eye contact wise with it for
a solid ten or fifteen seconds, and my buddy didn't
notice until he saw me kind of stop because I

(17:58):
was walking up to my car to grab something, and
I just stopped midstride because for some reason, it has
caught eye contact with this thing, and I got struck
with this fear and this turmoil that I could never explain.
And the following night is when I had that sleep
Proalyssis experience I just told you about. So it not

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only affected me so deeply that I was frozen in
my tracks for a solid minute, but that following night
I had sleep Prolysses experiences for the first time in
my life because of it. And it was the same face,
the same teeth, the same snout, and it was at
the end of my bed and I couldn't move, and
all I could do was screen. It's just this experience

(18:45):
I can never explain, which is why you know I'm
a skeptic at heart, and I will forever be because
I feel like that's the best way to approach these
types of things. But you know, my personal experience, there's
something out there. I don't know if it was alien.
I don't know if it was paranormal. I don't know
those cryptid but I experienced something that day that put
the fearrogotomy.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Looking back at that, do you think the two events
were tied together?

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I think so. I personally think the more I looked
into it, the more that I started going out into
areas at that time, the more that I was actually experiencing.
And I think that whole old adage of you know,
if you go looking for something, you'll find it. If
you invite something in your life, it'll probably come. And

(19:34):
I was way more into like the paranormal before all
of this, So I should have been smarter. I was
well aware because I lived in some crazy old places.
I grew up in a cabin in Tennessee that was
built in eighteen oh two. We found the residents one day,
I was just bushwhacking behind the barn and I found
the graves of the people that built it, and you know,

(19:57):
we had crazy, crazy, weird paranormal experiences in the house.
So I was very well aware the more you kind
of paid attention to it and the more you put
energy into it, the more it kind of happened. Right,
So I wasn't really aware that that would be the
same thing for these types of things, And that's when
I started making different connections when I got a little
bit older. But when I first got into this, I

(20:17):
was just kinda like, I don't know if I really
like I had experiences, but like I've always been that
kind of guy's like, I don't know if I believe it.
You know, who knows. Maybe I just was tired, you know.
So for a long long time, I was just being
more antagonistic, and I think that's why I was having
a lot more negative experiences for the first year or
so of this whole experience. And when I stopped being

(20:40):
antagonistic and being just more I guess curious, I think,
is when I started experiencing things on a different level.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
How do you feel about it now when you look
back at it. I know you said you're still a
little uneasy talking about it, but just overall and in general, like,
how do you feel about knowing that, even though you're skeptical,
you have to admit that there is something real about
these creatures?

Speaker 3 (21:08):
I mean, I think it's just like it's like a
surrendering feeling. You have to like, at some point just
be like, there's more than I can explain in this world,
and I can. You know, I always claim to be
a skeptic, but like I'm but I don't think that's
a negative thing. I think people hear skeptic and they're like, oh,
he doesn't believe. No, I'm just open to all of it.
You know. I want to hear all sides. I want

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to feel all sides. And just because I experienced something
that I can't explain, I don't want to immediately be like,
oh that was that was the demon of the South brother.
You know, like I don't I don't want to ever
be that guy. But you know, eventually you have to
look back and you just be like there was enough
happening to where you're like, Okay, that's not normal. And
this like aligns with a lot of the stories that

(21:51):
you get sent and when I look back on it, like,
I guess it's not necessarily haunting, but it's more of
just like kind of almost beautiful, you know what I mean.
It's like, damn, dude, You've been able to experience all
these crazy things that most people in their lives never experience.
And the amount of people that I've met, you know,
touring with my band and stuff, and I hear these

(22:11):
cool stories about bigfoot or aliens every so often. Most
people never experience anything weird in their life, and I
find myself very lucky to be able to I guess
have been susceptible enough. And you know, maybe that's a
blessing for some people, maybe it's a curse for others,
but for me, I feel like it's been a very
valuable learning experience.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
We have about ninety seconds ago before we have to
go to break in the bottom of the hour swamped Well,
there is our guest tonight on spaced out Radio. I mean,
you have been able to create such incredible stories, and
there's always the big question how many of these are
real and how many of these are just out of
you know, your own imagination. I mean, you get hundreds

(22:54):
of letters a month from people who've had experiences. Do
you ever read any of those lets and just say wow,
like this rattled me?

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Oh yeah, all the time, especially when it comes to
things that I can have a little bit of personal
claim to. That's why I love ghost stories, because I've
had enough ghost experiences in my life to know that,
oh man, that reminds me of my first time or
reminds me of, you know, visiting my my step grandparents'
house when I was younger in Connecticut, and they always
had these crazy experiences in the house, and you know,

(23:25):
I could go on for days, but there's always these small,
subtle things that people say in stories that make me
like connect to it, and I'm just like, I know
this is real. And there's sometimes where people send you
stories and you're like, oh, well, okay, when to go
to the big backflip over the bigfoot, Okay? You know.
But for the most part, you know, a lot of
these stories I can just connect with from personal experience,

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and I think that's what makes it so easy to
be able to tell them.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
I bet, I bet, my friend, and you do a
great job with it. I think you're one of the
best out there. You know, it's amazing with the algorithm.
Swear you know, I'll be listening to you and the
next thing I know, I'll get like, you know, thirty
different channels. And I've tried listening to those other channels, Swampy,
but I got to tell you they're not the same.
You were that good and I appreciate everything that you

(24:14):
do with allowing us to play swamp Dweller on our
number three of spaced Out Radio each and every night
our guest swamp Dweller. Make sure you go to his
YouTube channel, swamp Dweller. Hit subscribe, ring that bell, join
the three hundred thousand of us who enjoy the content
of spooky stories each and every night. We'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Awesome.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Good start, buddy, good start.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
For sure, I'll be right back on my run to
the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Click all right, buddy. Swampy's awesome. He is awesome obviously
these topics too. And that's I think that's one of
the reasons why I enjoy his his uh content so much,

(25:11):
is because he just really loves what he does, you know,
And I think that's a passion that comes out and
he makes badass music too. So if you're into like
some really good hard metal. Yeah, swampy, you gotta listen
to burn Absolute. Maybe we should have a little taste.

(25:43):
It's not for everybody, but we're gonna. Yeah, what the hell.
I don't think he'll hit me up with a copyright
strike for this. Let's go get rid of the commercials foremost,

(26:08):
share it up here, give you a little taste.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Mhm. Seen a few comments. My bad if I'm swearing. Yeah,
God damn, I'm getting the whole show taking off the
radio guys, hold on here. Oh geez, you're picking the
worst one, brother, literally our least stream song. Really yeah, actually,

(26:42):
play noise. Noise is definitely the most popular one, all right,
my bad? Yes, Salt the Woe is definitely not the one.

(27:16):
I got your bride by guy.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Very right?

Speaker 4 (27:23):
God what I like?

Speaker 5 (27:24):
Got alive a lagod I go I.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Di ray dog.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
Oh you're jolly well rid O die.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Jo over.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
This you adi layer.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
You have nice hair.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Bake push just man. I roared louder.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Oh dude, dude, I love it. I love it. I
may not look like a metal head, but I'm a
total metal head.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, I love this, freaking love it. There's just something
so free about hard rock and metal.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah. Man, there's just something about it. I heard it
as a very young kid, and I've just been obsessed
ever since i've been I've been doing the metal thing
since thirteen years old. So I don't I don't think
I can ever stop. Honestly, I'm about to be thirty one.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
So I'm trying to get my boy back into playing guitar.
Oh man, he was so good a couple of years ago,
and then he's just like, no, man, I'm going to
play hockey and that's it.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Oh oh, he's got to avenge Canada. I told you
i'd bring that.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Up, you son of a bitch. You did, you did?
Hey man, I got to push my glasses up a
little bit. Here heard we also beat you in the Parilympic. Yeah,
you're bad connection, bad connection. Hey, thank you tonight to
t Bode, Kmart, Mickey and Beno. And here we go
the second half hour, everybody, Here we go the second

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(31:18):
let you have it. I muted you during the break
because you were just about to raz me a little
bit about Canada losing in men's and women's hockey to
the United States, then again in sledge hockey. You know,
you get to call us silver. That's what you could
call us now, Swampy is silver.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
We got to call you second place.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Brother.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
How are a bunch of Floridians winning against some Canadians?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
All right? Well, first off, half the Floridians on the
team are half Canadian. You realize that.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
No, no, no, we'll give it to the Russians this time.

Speaker 6 (31:55):
No.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
I love that dude. Every time I see the NHL.
I always laugh, Mike, how's it the Tampa Bay Lightning
where I happen to be, or the Florida Panthers winning
the NHL every year. I was like, we're the one
state that doesn't know what the heck ice is and
y'all just saying we win in every year. Come on, Toronto,
come on Quebec, get your get your ish together, guys.

(32:17):
Come on.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Oh man, I know.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
I know we hired the best Russians or Canadians whatever,
but I mean, y'all still lost. It still says Florida
on the title feels Bad day.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
I am feeling bad right now and there's nothing I
can do about it. You know what. Let me tell
you something about about the silver medal. And I saw
a bunch of Canadian people. Oh, we're so proud of you.
You got silver, you won silver. You never win silver
in hockey, you lose silver.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Look, Canada robbed us. I saw that finger in the curling, Dave.
I saw that finger in the curling.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
The hand of God right there, of God.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
You gotta love it, brother, you got that right.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah. I hear you, my man, I hear you. Out
of all the cryptid stories that you have told over
the years, what's the one that sticks out for you
the most? Tell us that story man.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
That's gonna be a little thought process here, but I
think the one that sticks out the most will forever
be the Wind to Go that threw dead cats at
a window. Excuse me.

Speaker 7 (33:31):
When I first started this whole thing, the first story
I ever told outside of dog man stories was this
crazy story about a Wind to Go, allegedly a wind
to Go.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Maybe it was a skinwalker, we don't know, but there
was some sort of supernatural creature that was allegedly throwing
dead cats at this person's window and doorstep, and we
had pictures and all kinds of stuff too corroborate this.
I have to try to find the video for a
Dave here and send it to them after this. But

(34:07):
apparently there were just several dead stray cats showing up
on this person's property, usually in their windowsill or their
front door, and it really only started happening after they
started researching into something called the Wind to Go. This
person lived in Anchorage, Alaska, so it would be somewhere

(34:30):
reminiscent of it, but it might be more closer to
a shoe game. The more I think about it in hindsight,
but or maybe it might even be something different. There's
a couple different, you know, crazy Alaskan cryptids out there,
But this story really reminisced around how these cats would
have three large claw strikes in their back and would

(34:51):
be usually between three am and three thirty am, thrown
at this person's door or window. And this this person
at the time was fairly deep into the occult and
looking into a lot of these things. And for whatever reason,
I just think about the story almost daily because I

(35:12):
think about a similar experience I had when I started
speaking to this person. And this is the last crazy
story I even have in my YouTube career, because after
that is when I decided I ain't getting involved anymore.
I'm gonna just tell stories, you know. But I got
pretty deep into it. I got pretty deep into the lore.
And this might freak about freak out a couple people

(35:33):
in the chat, but genuinely, a week later, I woke
up at three am to a large on my window
and it was literally a dead cat. At the time,
I lived in a very small town outside of Okalla
called Danellen. I had lived in that town for most

(35:54):
of my childhood, never had an experience like that, maybe
saw a coyote here and there. The second night that
I really got involved with this person, I heard a
thump on my front door was a dead cat. In
my life in this neighborhood, I have maybe seen one
stray cat. Ever, And when I say that I lived

(36:16):
in the middle of nowhere, this neighborhood I lived in
was quite literally like ten miles out of the actual
town of Danellen. We were closer to Romeo if you
know anything about that. So the few people in north
central Florida might know what I'm talking about, And especially
if you go back to that two thousand and twelve

(36:36):
twenty thirteen times, you'd know how rule these areas are.
Even now, these areas are still fairly rural. Only recently
have they started building highways through these areas. That is cray,
no man like, It's just one of those things where
was like, this could be a coincidence, or this could

(36:57):
be something deeper. And that's when I made that anxious
decision to be like, I'm not gonna meddle too deeply
into this. I'm not gonna start investigating into these stories.
Because there was a time where I wanted to investigate
into the stories, corroborate them, and then tell them. And
at that point I was like, I'm just gonna tell
the stories. I was like, I don't want to have

(37:17):
any dead cats thrown at my window anymore. And I
genuinely mean that from the bottom of my heart, Like
that is a we had two dead cats in our yard.
I don't know where they came from. There is no
where they could have came from. I have no idea.
I can't even explain to you. We lived in the
middle of nowhere, genuinely the middle of nowhere, so I

(37:40):
and still to this day it's the middle of nowhere.
So I don't know where these cats came from. I
had never seen stray cats in this neighborhood ever. I
lived there from the age of seven to fourteen, and
then I moved back around the age of like nineteen
to twenty one and then left. But like this happened

(38:01):
from the nineteen to twenty one era, and I had
so much experience. Basically I grew up there and I
just can't explain it. You know, It's one of those
things where I cannot explain it.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Do you think that because you are somebody who is
involved in this, that you take on a lot of
that energy within your stories and with your own experiences,
that you're almost like a magnet to it.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
At first, Yes, I think after a while I got
into this mental fortitude of just blocking it out. My
longtime girlfriend of ten years is a very spiritual person.
She does a lot of like spells, and I mean,
she's like a witch of sorts. You know. I don't
want to call her a witch, you know, that's kind

(38:55):
of a gross term to call her these days, but
she does a lot of that stuff. She's very spiritual,
she's very into those types of rituals and stuff. And
I feel like ever since she came into my life,
I've experienced less of this stuff. But also I've also
experienced a lot more of paranormal stuff outside of the
cryptid side of things. And I feel like personally, I've

(39:20):
just gotten to a point to where those previous experiences
with the cats and those previous experiences with those stories
faded into the background real quick, because we suddenly started
having all these weird paranormal experiences, right because she would
do all these things that would invite people, not people,
but you know, things in and you know, I guess

(39:42):
that's when my like real cryptid experiences started to maybe
end a little bit or just get like shouted a
little bit by these paranormal experiences. And I experienced a
lot of paranormal stuff before the encryptied stuff, but like
once she kind of came in and started doing a
lot those things, you know, as you could figure through

(40:03):
ten to eleven years of being together, I've experienced a
lot of crazy, weird ass. I guess you could say
paranormal things that I can't even remotely try to explain
to you.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
So do you think you're haunted?

Speaker 3 (40:19):
I don't think I'm haunted personally. I think it's all
about energy. I think energy is everything in life. If
you put off this energy, that's going to be attractive
to entities that want to either get energy from it,
or you know, find some way tobe antagonize you into
giving more energy. I think that's going to be a

(40:40):
lot more obvious if you're more into that stuff. As
I've mentioned, my long term girl here is more into
that type of stuff. But I I ignore all of it.
So if there's even a shadow in my room, if
there's anything that makes a noise in my room, if
there's anything that's out of the normal that might be paranormal,
ignore it from the beginning, and I've noticed throughout my

(41:04):
life that makes these a lot less realistic. You know,
a lot of these demons, if you will, won't mess
with you, because it's just like voodoo. If you don't
believe in voodoo, vodoo has no power over you. Right,
So it's the same thing with paranormal and a lot
of these things. Belief is such a strong thing, And
it's not that I don't believe in the paranormal. It's

(41:25):
not that I don't believe in cryptis or anything like that.
But like I don't immediately fall into that crazy like
skeptical thing I guess of being like, oh my god,
they're coming after me. You know, for me, it's like
I'm like, wha, what the heck was that? Let me
go investigate it. If it was just my cat being stupid,
bo dang, my cat's being annoying, you know. So, like

(41:49):
you know, I've kind of I usually go to the
most obvious things, but I've very often, unfortunately, Dave, as
much as I hate to say this to you, come
to a conclusion that hey, if you invite these weird
energies into your house all the time. You might have
some weird energies in your house. And energy is everything,
and everything in life, whether it be dead or alive,

(42:12):
actually has energy to an extent, right, So I mean
that's scientifically proven. I mean, do your Google's chat, you
can find it. The sad thing about it is is,
you know life doesn't end after death. You know, there
there's a lot more going on there. There's energy that
disperses throughout the entire world, throughout the entire universe. But

(42:37):
I guess for me, it's more of just like just
trying to be able to balance it, right. It's like
I'm constantly in these crazy, high intensity worlds that I
don't even want to be in. I'll be really with you, Dave.
I'm the first person to be like, yeah, I'd rather
just not deal with any ghosts. No Big feat, no,
no no Wendy go gos, you know, no skinny skinny boys.

(42:59):
I just want to not have to do with anything scary.
You know, life is already scary enough with the taxes
I gotta pay. Don't make me freaking fight some freaking
god dang monster in the world.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
I'll tell you, though, bro, I can say this, I
would sooner deal with a bigfoot than people. But that's
just me. Sure, that's just me. And the only time
that I've really really been scared. There's been three times
in my life that I've been absolutely petrified scared with

(43:34):
this phenomena, And the biggest one was last year when
we heard either a wind to go or skin walker
that was literally mimicking a woman's voice than a man's voice,
trying to lure us into the forest. Terrifying that that
was absolutely petrifying. I've never had that happen before. I

(43:59):
hope it does not happen again, but if it does,
I can tell you right now I ain't going towards it,
just like I didn't this time around. Not going all
for the opposite.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Brother, you always have to go to the opposite, like
I said, Like when I first started experiencing these things,
that's the same thing that happened to me, and my
instinct was to go towards it. You know, it's say, oh,
there ain't nothing there, there ain't nothing there. But I'm
so glad I didn't because you never know. And at
the end of the day, you know, those shadows at
the end of your bed. Those weird feelings you feel

(44:32):
at the middle of the night, those strange chills that
go up your arm, they all mean something. You got
to look into them now. While I don't think they
can necessarily bother you, and it's something to look into,
you know, especially when you're out in the If you're
out in the woods, camping, r ving, doing your thing
and you feel anything strange, you should be scared, regardless,

(44:57):
because it's not just about Bigfoot, it's not just about
dog Man. At that point, I just supposed Skinwalker. Hey,
there might be a damn freaking grizzly bearrier right there
about to eat you, you know what I mean. You know,
you got to listen to your feelings. And I think
that's a big thing that I've really wanted to push
a lot of these years. Just listen to your feelings.
You know, you never know what's coming. It could be
paranormal or not. But like the world's a scary place regardless.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
I would agree with you on that. And it's funny
because the more you take yourself out of society and
put yourself in wilderness, it's amazing how all of a
sudden those senses come to fruition. You know, I don't
know how many times where I've been out in the
forest it hasn't happened a lot, but enough where all

(45:44):
of a sudden you're like, there's something watching us, there's
something watching us. And the next thing you know, I mean,
it could be something as innocent as a rabbit or
deer running by, but your feelings picked them up. Your
feelings of that energy, that psychic canet energy picked up
that animal, you know what I'm saying. I mean, never

(46:04):
mind the ghosts or Bigfoot or aliens, but we do
have that ability. We've just lost the connection.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I think a lot of people
have just kind of resigned themselves to thinking that a
lot of this is just Hollywood. You know.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
One of the things we haven't talked a lot about
in the amount of interviews that we've done together, I've
never asked you about your love of true crime. You
have an amazing true crime section on your channel, Swamp Dweller.
What do you love about true crime.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Personally? That's kind of one of the first things that
got me into scary stuff, right I loved unsolved mysteries
growing up. Robert Stack was a huge inspiration of mine.
That's a big reason why I'm here. Raphis always loved
true crime. You know, there's something about figure figuring out
a mystery that I love. You know, everything that I
do has always been puzzle based, almost and you know,

(47:07):
YouTube is a very big puzzle based thing, and like
figuring out how to tell the stories a puzzle based thing,
and I love pitting the pieces where they need to be.
And when it comes to true crime, I've always wanted
to just be a guy that covers things that just
aren't covered by other people. You know, I don't want
to cover the same things you've seen over and over
on endless mystery channels. Right. I was the first person,

(47:29):
and I love to be able to say this because
it just puts so much more light on their case,
even though it's solved now. Is peg Margaret Peggy Beck.
I was the first person to ever make a YouTube
video on her, and our video is the reason why
her case got solved. Ultimately, she's the oldest unsolved cold
case ever in America to be solved, and it's because

(47:51):
of our video, and I'm so proud of that. That's
my biggest I'll be so honest with you. I'll be
so honest with you. That is my biggest, biggest acomplishment
in life is to be able to say we were
able to say, hey, there was this weird guy that
you guys interviewed several times, even to DNA swabs on

(48:12):
that you didn't really look into that deep and if
you looked into him now, you could probably find the answer.
And they did. And I'm so proud of saying that.
It sucks that by the time they found who it was,
he was dead, but I can say confidently it's amazing
that my video helped that happen.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
How did that pan out? I've never heard you tell
this story. How'd that pan out?

Speaker 3 (48:34):
It was probably back in like twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen time,
maybe twenty nineteen. I just couldn't sleep. I don't really
like telling the story because it's a very traumatic story
for me. But I found this story about Margaret peggyback
and I just couldn't sleep about it. I would be

(48:55):
in my bed. I was. I remember I was in
my first apartment. It was in Okalla floor as a
one bedroom, seven hundred foot apartments, me and my girlfriend,
my little puppy, and I just remember sitting there at night,
looking at my roof and just being like, happened to
this girl? Why can't I figure it out? Why is

(49:15):
my video literally ending at seven minutes? And it was
bothering me And I can't explain to you. I still
uploaded it and you can look it up on my
channel now, but it just bothered me. So I kept
looking into it. I kept doing research. I even flew
out to the state. I started interviewing people. I found

(49:35):
her grandmother, I found her mom, I found her not
her daughter, excuse me, I found her granddaughter or I
guess kind of granddaughter. And I just started interviewing everybody
that was related to her family. I was trying to
figure out what happened, who was there, all that stuff,
And I eventually ended up on this maintenance guy that

(49:57):
was never really looked into outside of a quick interview,
and it turns out he was the one that actually
did it. There was a point where they were saying
that she died of I mean, the whole original thing
was that she died of natural causes, but her hands
and feet were zip tied and she was in a
tent in a girl Scout camp instead of a sleeping bag,

(50:20):
How's that died of natural causes. So I just I
couldn't let it go, you know, And it just bothered
me to a point to where I was up all
night just thinking about it. And eventually I was able
to find enough tips and sent them into the local
PD there and about a year and a half later,
I got an email saying that it was solved. Right

(50:43):
and it's the oldest cold case in America ever sold
by DNA.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Right on.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Good for you, good free shout out their family, you know, Loki,
You know, I hate saying it, but you know, Margaret peggyback,
that was the first real case that really made me
decide that I need to do true crime. And that's
why I do true crime. I want to genuinely help
I want to do things to help people. I don't
want to cover the same cases everybody else is doing
to make a couple of dollars off of right Like,

(51:13):
you know, I do this genuinely for the love of it,
and I've always done it when it comes to true crime,
I just want to make sure we can help people.
You know, I don't want I don't want to do
anything stupid for a couple of dollars. You know, so
you won't see me usually covering some stuff. I did
cover the Karen Reid case. I did cover the Wade
Wilson case. But you know those version can do very

(51:33):
well for me. But you know, it's not about that
for me. It's it's more about, like, I want to
make sure that these stories are being told for what
they actually are instead of like the clickbait that most
people see.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
We have two and a half minutes before we have
to go to break at the top of the hour,
swamp Dwell, there is our guest tonight on spaced out Radio.
What's the weirdest case out there? Like, if I look
at your channel, or if I look at other channels,
we're gonna focus on yours. Here. To me, the one
that gets me the most that I would love it
if there was more investigation on it would be the

(52:08):
Smiley Face Killers, the alleged serial killer group.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Yeah, that's actually something I thought about doing a lot.

Speaker 8 (52:17):
I would say the strangest case that I did, the
one that made me be like, holy crap, the most
might actually be the Wade Wilson won the dude just
randomly snapped at a club, murdered a random woman, in
her home, went out, stole her car, murdered another woman,

(52:39):
ran her over so many times as she was described
as spaghetti, and then was caught while he was trying
to basically kill himself inside of a house, and then
was then arrested and had one of the most crazy,
you know, trials we've seen in American history for quite
a few years. But even outside of that, I would
probably say the girl Scout murders in Oklahoma. There killed

(53:03):
like six girl Scouts and that was just crazy, you know,
Like to me, it always makes you sad when you
see youth be taken out so so far for no reason,
and you know, it took so long from to actually
figure it out, and I don't think they actually figured
it out until.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
Like like quite a few years after. But I would say,
way Wilson in the Oklahoma girl Scout killed you know,
murders were probably some of the worst ones that I've
ever covered.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Well, we're going to get back to monsters and some
audience questions when we returned from the break in about
a minute. I mean, realistically, with what you do, you
get to go in any direction you want. You just
kind of run it the way you feel it what's
what's hopping for you that day?

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Pretty much, whether it be the main channel of the
second channel, I'm way more active on my second channel.
But you know, my second channel is more about justice
more than it is about you know, I guess education
like swamp till the channel is. I found a new
blessing with the Second Channel because it's just given me
a new way to be able to hold people accountable

(54:09):
and directly actually affect what happened to these you know,
criminals in life.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Swamp people were gonna get you to hold on right there,
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(54:37):
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Radio with Hopes Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
All right, buddy, we're clear. We got about uh, we
got about let me see here about six minutes, okay,
so I'm seeing about five and a half.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Sounds good, brother, all right for.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
The rest of you. For the rest of you, go
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subscribe on YouTube, I'd appreciate it. I'm trying to get
to one hundred subscribers in two days. If you good
for me.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Yeah, that's terrifying. I can't imagine, Tracy, that happening about
the Good Girl Scout camp and like multiple but three
to four girl scouts get murdered. That's gotta be terrifying.
I don't know why I'm talking. Probably can't hear me.

(56:39):
Oh they can hear me. Shoot, Dave gave me the
full access boys. Yeah, I honestly couldn't. I couldn't really imagine,
you know, like imagine how terrifying that is. It's like, oh,
we just heard about three four girls getting killed, and
now we have to go freaking camp in a similar area.

(57:02):
That's terrifying, though I hate to hear it. Though. You know,
I only really got into true crime because I am
so passionate about helping people like find the answers, And
you know, that's why I cover cases that aren't super known.
You know, I'm not really here to I guess gain

(57:24):
some views or money off of a popular case, and
anytime I've covered popular cases, you might see that they're
much less popular than my ones that aren't popular. If
you know a true crime is so bad that I
can't do it, I don't know about that one, Joe.

(57:46):
You know, I'm willing to cover anything as long as
it helps people. I'm not in the gore for gore though,
if I'm honest with you, I'm not a big fan
of gore. Never been into those crazy like slasher movies
or anything like. If it's a score for the sake
of gore, I'm not into it. But when it comes
to actual like mysteries and stuff like that, I'm super down.

(58:09):
But it depends what the mystery is, you know, Like
I don't know, I guess. If it's super gruesome but
there's an actual mystery behind it, I'm totally down. But
if it's just gruesome and you know, it's kind of
like a fairly straightforward story, I'm not like as much
into it. It's many years, Gary, many years of being around,

(58:43):
you know, I've been around since late twenty sixteen. Takes
a long time to get enough people to send in stories.
A good way is just to consistently direct people to
a certain place, whether it's an email website. You know,
at the end of the day, the best place to
promote yourself is wherever you're posting, you know, and just

(59:06):
make that a regular thing. Let people know where they
can regularly send you those things, and you know, people
will begin to do it. You can't just expect people
to send it to you. It took quite a while
for me to get people to send me active stories,
but probably after a good three to four month of
me actively promoting, you know, where I wanted people to

(59:29):
send stories to, I started seeing crazy results. And you know,
as long as you actively promote that same thing every episode,
it's kind of like clockwork, right, you know, it just
becomes habit for people. I agree with Tracy. I'm not a
big fan of slasher movies. I think they're okay, they

(59:50):
can be interesting, but most of the time it's just
like we're killing people to kill people. If I want
to watch that, I'll just watch like a Michael Minters
movie or something, maybe maybe terrified, you know, all right, swampy,
heck yeah, hell yeah. Have you came across the story

(01:00:13):
that made you question why you do this? Honestly, no
not really. I've seen so many crazy things in life,
whether it just be normal people, whether it just be paranormal.
Nothing makes me question anything. Saw a guy fly out
of his front windshield because of a car crash. You know,
like you'll, you'll stop questioning things real quick once you

(01:00:34):
just see your regular everyday things.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
All right, let's give me we got thirty seconds. Are
going to cut you off right there, buddy, Sorry about
that high tank, Ella light walkers, Denise Corwin, how you doing?
And Kurt m Nice to see you, and anybody else
join us here, oob to Joe's Maine. You've got ghost
stories and this won't be answered those questions, so I'm

(01:01:03):
not going to ask those again. And thank you to
our super chatters Beno, Mickey Kmart and t Bone. Here
we go with our two. Everybody, Here we go with
our number two of Spaced Out Radio tonight. My name

(01:01:24):
is Dave Scott. Good to have you with us as
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here on spaced Out Radio, we had to Swampdweller once
again as we welcome in our good friend from swamp
Dweller on YouTube, over three hundred thousand subscribers, taking in
his wonderful stories that he produces en masse to scare

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the living daylights. How are you, Swampy? It's always good
to have you here. How you doing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
I'm doing amazing better now than I'm here with you, Dave.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Do you think that a lot of these creatures that
you are covering people are really having encounters with.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Yes and no. I guess it depends on the story.
But there's enough and cryptids out there that I've had
a history much longer than the life that I have lived,
that I think have some sort of grain of salt.
And I think most stories, especially when it comes to
historic stories and legends and mythology, I think there's always

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a bit of grain that starts these stories, and then
obviously they get you no, maybe exaggerated a little bit
to be more grand over the years, but over all,
I would say that I definitely think that there's something
to the majority of these stories for the most part.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Out of all the creatures that you have covered over
the years through your channel Swamp Dweller, which ones do
you think are the most real out there?

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Man? That's a tough question to ask. I guess realistically,
I'd probably be more leaning to a lot of the
paranormal stories and a lot of the I guess you
could say a leen sas UFO stories, cryptos stories are
very believable to an extent, But as of this point
in my life, I think I'm a lot more interested
in more looking at those UFO stories or alien stories.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
What makes what makes a good UFO story for you?
What makes it believable?

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Well, again, obviously I always go to more of my
own personal experience. It's you know, a few weird things
in the sky over the years, and I'm like, what
the heck was that? And when I read stories and
I hear some things that match what I've seen, I'm like, oh, crap, Okay,
I'm having some validation here, some corroboration, if you will.
So I think more or less, it's more about how

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realistic or how like I guess much personal experience I
can add to it. But I'm also I guess I'm
just way more interested at this point in my life
and life outside of Earth. But I guess when it
comes down to it, what makes the most believable for
me is more of just like the details, right, Like,

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if you're telling me that you know, you got beamed
up to a spaceship and they probed you and put
something in your your your bootyhole or whatever, you know,
I'm gonna want to see some evidence of that, right.
But if you give me a more realistic, realistic story
here of you know a lot of the premonitions of
the crazy dreams people experience, and you know a lot

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of those types of things, that's when I get more
interested because, like, to me, it gives me more to
work with because I can like, Okay, there's a there's
a foundation here, and there might be an actual, like
natural explanation to it, and I always need to have
a out for that. I think that makes me a
little bit different from a lot of people. Is like
I'm not willing to just look at it through a

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paranormal or a you know, obscure lens. I want to
be able to look at it from all three to
four lenses, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
I want to know how you're gonna investigate it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
Yeah, exactly. I need to know, brother. I need to
be able to look at all of it. I need
to be able to like get the understanding of the perspectives.
Like that's why I'm like, you don't want to hire
me to look into your stuff, brother, because I'm going
to be questioned everything.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Well, I think questioning things is a good thing. I
really do believe it's it's a good thing. Like even
with my own encounters and experiences that I have, you know,
I'm still quite skeptical about it, even though a lot
of it does not make sense, and maybe it's not
supposed to make sense, you know. And that's what kind

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of you know, triggers me a little bit in trying
to figure out whether or not I am actually truly
experiencing what I'm experiencing. And you know, for you as
somebody who is trying to to, you know, get to
the bottom of some of this when you are out there,
you know, or somebody gives you sends you a story

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to your swamp dweller email, which we're gonna definitely provide
later on if somebody has an encounter. How do you
define the real stories from the ones that just seem
a little bit too fictional.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
Well, the first step really comes down to, I guess
me reading it and getting a feel for it. And
at this point, ten years in, I have a really
good idea when people were just telling stories. I mean,
I'm not like a genius by any means. I'm not
going to think I'm the biggest expert or whatever. But
when it comes down to the basis of a submission,

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I can, for the most part TELEVI it's for entertainment,
or if it's for you know, something deeper. And there's
quite a few stories that get sent a year that
strike me in such a different way that you know,
I have to send them to a producer or to
somebody that I work with, whether it be you know,
a lot of people might not know that I work

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behind the scenes for a lot of shows. Whether it's
Discovery Channel, whether it's Animal Planet, whether it's Netflix. I
work on a lot of behind, behind the scenes stuff
for shows. I provide a lot of stories. I provide
a lot of context or a lot of information. I
get contact information, I bring people to you know, where
they need to interview people type stuff. So I'm very
much a liaison for a lot of that stuff. So

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for me and more kind of comes down to that
point of, hey, is this something that actually like is
different and doesn't make sense? You know, it doesn't always
have to make sense in like a realistic point of like, hey,
does this make sense in our common sense andalities or
does this make sense in a paranormal aspect, But if
you can make it make sense in a little bit

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of both, then it's like, okay, we can make a
whole episode about this. So for me, it's more of
it just like if the story has some basis in
reality and isn't some crazy outlantish story that is obviously
built in some sort of horror movie universe. That's when
you're usually going to see me probably go a little
bit deeper into it and ask you if you'd be

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interested in being on a show or something.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
What's your favorite alien abduction or encounter story that you've had.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
My favorite one is the one where the Illinois cops
chased a pill shaped UFO for like several different counties.
I have a whole video about it. I'm pretty sure
it's probably titled something like Illinois Cops Chase UFO or
something like that, but it's one of the first Illinois

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or excuse me, it's one of the first UFO videos
I ever did. I think the first one I ever
did was the Warminster thing, but I think this might
have been the second one I did. And I was
just so fascinating because like there was like six different
counties that just reported the exact same piece of shaped thing.
Even the Air Force base there in Atlantic City reported
it and they even chased it down. So to me,

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it's like you have like a dozen cops and a
whole Air Force base mentioning this thing, And to me,
it is just one of the first times I ever
saw something outside of the Warminster thing that had enough
you know, I guess verifiable sightings that made it make
sense to me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
What about alien abductions?

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Abductions, I've been sent a few things. I think I've
maybe done two videos ever on abduction type stories, and
they're a little hard for me to believe. If I'm
being honest with you, I don't really know why. I
guess I just I grew up with like movies like
The Fourth Kind, you know, so I guess for me,

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some of those stories sound too similar to that, and
to me, I guess I might have a bias. So
I don't think I'm the best person when it comes
to abduction stories personally. I've just seen too many abduction
type movies. Like I grew up being terrified of Signs, Dave.
So you know, it's like, I think, I think I
might not be the best person to ask about aliens.

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If I'm totally real, I believe it too.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
I can tell you this, Mad, I can tell you
this if you remember them this. I don't mean to
freak you out here a little bit if you are,
you know, you know, kind of weirded out by it.
But if you remember the movie Signs where the boy
is holding up Mel Gibson's boy is holding up the
the baby monitor on top of the car, and you

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hear that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Type sound about that monnightmares all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Yeah, dude, I had that happening in my like a
conversation in my backyard and up my driveway. I have
about a half an anchor on my property, and from
my backyard, my backyard kind of slopes down and from
that slope and then up to my front yard where

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I got a bunch of tall trees. It was like
listening to a conversation of And then when you all
of a sudden now here watch the trailers of the
new Disclosure Day by Steven Spielberg that'll be out in June.
What do they have in that movie? The clicking sound again?

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
Yeah, And the worst part about it, squirrels make that sound.
Is that same sound, So you're forever gonna be like,
what the.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
F I didn't hear a word you said, but I'm
gonna agree with you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
I was whispering. I was like, the worst part about
it is in Florida, we have things called we have
things called monkey squirrels here, right, and they make that
same sound. So growing up I heard that noise and
I'm just like, oh, no, are the squirrels aliens? So
I had this conspiracy when I first saw it because

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I saw that. I first saw Signs Dave when I
was seven years old, So for the rest of my life,
I was like, are these monkey squirrels? Are they? Are
they aliens? Are they coming for me? We didn't have
monkey squirrels, Dave until I moved to the Okalla.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Areay squirrel is? I'm gonna have to look that up now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
You have to google it. There's squirrels that are the
dang size of raccoons and they make noises. Anybody who's
ever lived in North Florida or Georgia is gonna be
able to verify me here in the chat. But if
you ever heard clicking sounds in the woods, them dang
freaking monkey squirrels.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Weird, weird. Glad we don't have those up here?

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
Oh no, they're they. They were terrifying as a kid,
but yeah, yeah, No. Signs was something that made me
kind of just not want to ever mess with aliens. Honestly,
I was so scared of that movie. Another movie that
Chat might be interested in seeing that I was terrified
of as a kid was Thirteen Ghosts. I was so
scared of that freaking movie as a kid. I had

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nightmares for years about thirteen Ghosts. And now I'm always
out there just antagonizing the ghosts. I'm like, y'all, that's
all y'all got no Yeah, I'm could you imagine you
can never imagine a little seven year old swamp dweller
talking crap to any ghosts.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Did your parents call you swamp dweller? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Man? They I was born as swamp dweller. They were like, man,
this boy was born in the Everglades. We got to
call this man what he is, all right, swampy d swompy.
He's gonna have swamp balls for the rest.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Of his lafe, Little swampy D right there? All right,
I got somebody's questions here for you. Brother, Let's get
to him. Little Mikey is asking Swampy what band were
you most jacked out when you found out? You guys
got the chance to open or meet them? Love your music?

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Harper sate Gideon. We've got to do a couple of dates,
uh with Gideon. And I was a big fan of
them when I was in high school.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Let's go to here. What stories have altered the way
you wrote them, And has any experience has ever made
you stop writing about certain topics?

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
Well, first and foremost, I don't write any of the stories.
I will edit them and make them obviously legible, but
I don't want to write them. And no, no, noosephras ever.
Maybe stop covering something.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
All right, let's move on to another one. Let's got
a tea bone? Going back to the story about the
dead cats that we were talking about. Did anyone ever
examine the cats how long they'd been deceased?

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Honestly, not that I know of. I know the ones
that the two cats that personally ended up in our
yard we just buried in the back with all the
other pets we had. But they looked fairly fresh. They
looked like brand new cats, you know what I mean. Like,
they didn't look like they had any illnesses. They were
is deceased and had some blood out of their their mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
All right, moving on again, go back to pat Do
you think more stuff needs to happen on the West
Coast over any other places in the United States of
the world. I'm assuming this means about monsters and all that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
I mean. I don't know if anywhere needs to have more.
But I guess if you're thinking about paranormal stuff, I
think the East Coast probably have more just because it's older, right,
you know, more generations of people have lived here. But
West Coast I think you might find more cryptid stuff.
You know a lot of the Bigfoot stories I get
sent are from that area. Obviously, you got Arizona over

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there with all them thing skinny boys, and you know,
the more close you get up, like Washington stuff and
like that, you might get closer to that when.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
To go area.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
But like, realistically, I think it's everywhere, you know. I
think wherever negative energy exist is where you're going to
find a lot of these things. I think a lot
of it, honestly, from my personal opinion is based off
of just negative energy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Moving on, Do you believe in manifestation.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
If you're talking about tulpas and stuff like that sort,
to an extent, Yeah, I think that you can speak
things into existence. I think I've done that to myself
a few times personally, So yeah, I believe in manifestation
to an extent. I think at the end of the day,
the power of belief is more powerful than most people think.
You can believe something regardless of how real it is

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or not, and you will probably see or experience things
around it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Do you think that we are manifesting a lot of
these creatures? Okay, Like give you an example, slender Man
never existed until people started putting energy into it. At
people will say siren Head is like that, and a
lot of these I'm gonna use the term, I know
you don't like it, but a lot of these more

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creepy pasta type of stories that have happened. Do you
think we have you know, created these creatures as tulpa's
because of our storytelling abilities, the Internet and and people
especially young kids, really starting to buy into the whole

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theory of monsters.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I think that, you know, the
power of the tulpa and the power of belief and
the power of existence is very, very very real. And
as much as this might make me sound like some
sort of hypocrite or sellout, the most, you know, I
think more things happen when you believe in it. I

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think if you make yourself successible to these things, you're
going to experience it more. And the more you look
for the unexplained, the more where you experience the unexplained,
and that's because the power of attraction is very real.
You know, energy exists. You know, every literal living thing
on this planet, and to an extent, even a lot

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of the dead things on this planet emit energy. And
at the end of the day, you have to just
you know, put out certain energies. If you want more
positive things to happen to you in life, you've got
to be a more positive person. Right. So it's the
same thing when it comes to the paranormal and the unexplained.
If you want to experience more things, open yourself up
and be more suscessible and accepting of these things. If

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you want to not experience those things, close yourself off
to it. You know, I'll say this straight up. The
reason why I don't have a lot of paranormal experiences
anymore is going to close myself off to it. I
didn't want to entertain it anymore. I didn't want to
be constantly in this state of disarray, you know what
I mean, this unexplained, weird type of energy. Right, So

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you just close yourself off to it. But the same
thing at the end of the day is you can
completely open yourself to it and just experience all these
crazy things in life, and you know, I think it
really just comes down to where you want to be.
A crazy and amazing quote that actually heard from a
place that most people might not expect. It is from

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Sam and Colby, who have a very popular YouTube channel
where they cover a lot of you know, paranormal stuff
and whatnot, and I think what they said really encapsulates
it the best is if you want to experience things,
open yourself up to it. You know, it's just that simple.
Just be willing to experience things, be willing to be
open to things that you might not necessarily believe or understand.

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And you'll probably have some crazy experiences in life. And
I've had enough of those in my life to where
I'm ready to be close to off.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Is it because you're scared of it?

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
I wouldn't say scared. I think it's more of just convenience,
if I'm honest with you, you know it kind of
I guess after like ten years of doing this type
of stuff and you're like, man, I've had all these
crazy experiences. When does my time end? You know? And
then you have to realize that, oh, you dictate when
that ends. You dictate when that connection closes. And for me,

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it's not that I'm scared of it. I'm not scared
of it. I'll ignore it. Like like I said, my
girlfriend is big into the witchcraft stuff, she's big into
the spiritual stuff. She's big into all that beyond the
veil type stuff, right, And for me, you know, not
so much. So for me, I just you know, she
does her rituals, she does her things. But I can
tell you right Nowadave, I don't have any problems with it.

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I'm not getting affected by it nothing, because I put
myself on a specific energy plane of Hey, y'all, do
your thing. I believe in you. I think you're there,
but at the end of the day, I'm not going
to give you the energy or the attention you want.
And at the end of the day, a lot of
that negative energy and a lot of that weird paranormal
stuff wants that type of stuff, right. They want to

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be able to get that fear from you. They want
to be able to get that type of energy from you,
because that's what they feed off of. And I learned
that at a very young age. So that's why I
don't really put a lot of attention towards the paranormal,
even though I'll tell you right now, Dave, I believe
in it wholeheartedly, bottom of my heart, from the toes
to my head. I believe in the paranormal. I've had
enough experiences to tell you there's some weird stuff going

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on in this world. But I also believe and know
and understand that it's all energy and energy comes from energy, right,
so this energy cannot affect me if I do not
give that energy a conduit.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
Do you think, though, that too many people are just
wanting in experience and are opening up themselves up to
things that they don't understand. And I'll be honest with you,
I look at the example you used of Sam and Colby. Okay,
I don't you know. Maybe it's because I'm an older,

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get off my lot and type of guy. I don't
trust a lot of what they're doing. I think what
they do is quite dangerous at times. You know, I
don't know the young men. I don't know what they're
like as people. I mean, they could be great kids,
you know what I'm saying. But if I look at
if I look at you know, their videos, I think

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that it's it's a lot more hype than than it
is about actual, you know, paranormal understanding.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
For sure. I agree with that to an extent. You know,
I think I've I've gotten to interview them on my
own before it's something that's actually going to come out
on my main channel very soon. And I've seen some
stuff with them in like Theovonne and some interviews in
the past, and you know, I think what you said
is very applicable to what they do. I think most
of it is hype. Most of it is you know, hey,

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how are we reaching this massive audience of multiple multi
million subscribers? Right? But the way they describe it, the
way they talk about how they got into it, and
just the candid personality that I got to hear from
them when it was a one on one conversation between
me and them in a room, It made me understand
why I got into this in the beginning, right. And

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it's a hard thing to explain, right, but it's that
innocence of like, I didn't really believe in this at first,
but then I had these weird, little, small experiences that
made me question everything. And I think when it came
down to talking with Sam and Colby, when I heard
them explain. Well, when I heard Colby explain how deeply

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religious he was, and Sam explained how he wasn't religious
but had this experience that made him believe in the paranormal,
I think after that it kind of made me sympathize
because I was a very similar person.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Hold that thought, swamp dweller. For the next half hour
coming up.

Speaker 5 (01:24:53):
You were listening to Space with your host Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
All right, bro, we're clear.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
Heck yeah, I want to say real quick, I appreciate
Para Marv for postmonal links. That's really really sick of you.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Yeah, paramrvs H. I'm machine with that. So it's Tim
Mothman and Tim Mothman's goate.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
No, I appreciate all you guys seriously. It means a lot.
You know. I don't really like to push my band
stuff too much. It's something I do on the side,
but I'm very passionate about it. So I'm very very
appreciative to see you guys promote that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Oh, no problem, buddy, it's what we do. It's what
we do. We've got a good team here.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
Hell yeah, you guys are the best. I'll be right back.
I'm gonna go get the bathroom real quick, but I'll
be right back to my friend.

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
You go. How do you not love the swampy man?
It's freaking awesome? You apology? What's happening? Welcome to our chat?
Nice name. Uh let's see here. Probably gonna have enough

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questions for the next half hour. Yessica, Lee, It's nice
to see you again. Thank you. Appreciate that. T Bone.

(01:26:33):
You gotta get your tickets to come up here, Lou easy,
how you doing? Thank you tonight to necessary a dialogue,

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t Bone, Kmart, Mickey and Beno for the super chants.
Greatly appreciate your love and support today. Guys, Thank you
very very much. If you haven't already, I would love
it if you do me the favor. I'd love it

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if you go to my new YouTube channel YouTube dot
com or yeah, YouTube dot com forward slash the Haunted
one O eight, which apparently it's not working right now.
Why is that not working? Uh? YouTube?

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
Oh man, M just realize my name, says Goblins Slayer
pH D.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
There's my name?

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
What a real what a real title?

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
At the Haunted one o? All right, show you my
new channel, Swampy.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
I'm gonna check this out. Let me click on it.
Let me put a sub on there. Heck yeah, sixty
eight subscribers now with me. There?

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
Nice?

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
Nice that more We're.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Gonna I got you.

Speaker 3 (01:28:08):
I promote that on my next episode.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
That'd be cool.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
This is my new paranormal tourism project.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
Hey man, you better bring me on there. I'm ready
to see your big feet.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
Oh dude, I'll take you on a run.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
We're going to see some big feet. Chat.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
Don't worry, We're gonna go see some big feet. Swampy's
gonna fly up here. I'd love it if you go
there and hit subscribe everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
I just renewed my passport.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
Boys, nice doors open.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
We gotta put some new stamps on it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
We gotta get up there to Canada. You know, I'm
old enough to remember boys back in the day when
I was playing metal songs and my boys that we
didn't even need a passport to go to Canada.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
I remember those days.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
That's what That's what being in damn near thirty one
does to you. Scott Dave, I'm calling you, Scott, my
bad Dave.

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
Here's a little piece of trivia. You know, Scott is
my middle name.

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
Dang well, I guess I can call it Scott. It's
not offensive.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
It's not offensive whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
We're gonna call this boy Scottie boys, Scotty boy. Yeah,
I'm bad with I. I don't know why, but recently
I've been calling a lot of people by their last name.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
If it's like a mental deficiency, if I'm just dying.
I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
Dave, just go for it. Go for it. It's it's
the rebeling you, my friend.

Speaker 3 (01:29:32):
We just go for it. Man, it's just me going
senile at thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
It happens.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
It definitely happens.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
It happens. We got about twenty five seconds here.

Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
All right, we got twenty five seconds. Boys, check out
penn Island dot com. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
Penniwa dot com. What the hell is that?

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
Don't look it up, Dave, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
Oh now I'm gonna have to. Here we go. Everybody
five seconds. Hi Thurston hell the third, say hi to
Lovey for us. If you don't mind, here we go.

(01:30:34):
Here we go the second half of spaced Out Radio Tonight.
My name is Dave Scott, and we have swamp dweller. Here.
We're gonna get to more audience questions. Had some stories
from the Spooky one from his YouTube channel Swamp Dweller,
go hit subscribe and ring that bell, buddy, how you doing.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
I'm doing good. I actually have a UFO story.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
If you want me to show, I want it. I
want it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:57):
Let's get it going here. I actually got it written down.
This is actually from when I was on tour with
my band. This was a excuse me, I got a
hiccups here. This was my security art for the night,
and I kind of wrote down some notes and I,
you know, obviously helped it be a little bit more articulate.
But uh, I want to read this for you guys.

(01:31:18):
I named it as UFO story from a security guy
in Louisville. Louisville, Kentucky. We were playing this venue called
Wrong Side eight twelve. It's technically in Indiana, I cannot remember.
I think it's Jeffersonsville, but it's literally over the bridge.
If you literally walk like five hundred feet over the bridge,
you're in Louisville, right right next to like the Heavens
Hill Distillery and all that stuff. Beautiful place. I've been

(01:31:42):
big into bourbon, so it was awesome for me to
be there. But I want to share this because I
was out there talking to the guy named David, and
he was sharing me the story of a UFO encounter
he kind of had, and I was very interested in it.
So I'm gonna read this for you real quick. Again.
Remember I uh, this is mainly his, his details, but
I just kind of rerote it to make sense. So

(01:32:04):
it starts out as it was a quiet night Louisville, Kentucky,
one of these shifts where nothing really ever happens, the
kind of security guards both hoped for in dread. At
the same time, he was posted outside doing a routine patrol,
and the air was still in heavy and distant and
a distant hu a trap excuse me, and a distant

(01:32:25):
hum of traffic barely cutting through the silence. That's when
he noticed it. At first, it didn't even register as
anything unusual, just something off in the sky. But the
longer he looked and the more it stood out. It
wasn't a plane, it wasn't a helicopter. Right, it's Superman right.
There were no blinking navigation lights, no sound, no clear structure,

(01:32:46):
just a dark, undefined shape hovering far above. So it
was basically the black dorrito that America has to blow
up other countries. That's what I'm getting. At this point,
it was blending into the night. Though he squinted trying
to make sense of it, the shit shape didn't really
seem solid in the way normal objects were. It was
like his eyes couldn't fully lock onto it right still,

(01:33:08):
it was there. Watching it gave him that really strange,
creeping feeling that something wasn't really right, and instinctively he
reached out for his phone. He was like, this is weird.
I gotta get this, I gotta film it. And he
pulled out his camera and aimed it toward the sky.
But the second he did, it was like his screen
glitched right, like everything he was trying to record with

(01:33:30):
suddenly blurry. The image was like breaking apart into heavy pixelation,
like a corrupted video feed. Blocks of color smeared across
the display, completely obscuring whatever he was trying to capture.
And you know, if you've ever been in that situation, like, really, brother,
this is the moment where like, oh, I got to
capture Bigfoot right and all of a sudden it is terrible.

(01:33:52):
The camera was working just fine, you know, and he
pointed it back at the same thing, tried to reset it,
all that good stuff, and it was useless. It was
a storted pick whatever. Now uneasy, he gave up on
the recording and tried to follow the object with his
eyes instead. He did send me the video, which I
could send to you after the show. But as he
focused on it, something even stranger happened. It started to

(01:34:15):
basically disappear in front of his eyes, like it flew
away or faded naturally. It was as if his brain
couldn't like process it anymore, is how he was explaining
it to me. One second it was there, the next
it was just not. And you know, he scanned the
sky heart rate, picking up, trying to relocate it, and

(01:34:35):
he just couldn't find it. The sky was entirely blank
at that point. It was an overcast night. You could
barely see the stars, et cetera. So the fact that
he could even see this shape was kind of crazy
at all. So for quite a while he was questioning
himself as like, maybe I was his tripping. He did
have a shot earlier in the night, but he only
had one shot, right, so it's not like he should

(01:34:57):
be that messed up later the night, right, correct, you
need and just with one shot, you know, as somebody
who drinks themselves, Like I tell you, I'm probably not
seeing UFOs in the sky. Right, His stomach dropped and
he just had like this weird feeling. And about two
hours later, he said, it was probably around three am.
At that point, he looked back in the sky and

(01:35:20):
he saw this weird formation up there. It was the
same rough shape that he saw before, but instead of
it being like this big black like shadow, it was
like multiple different lights. So it was like eight different
lights from like a point down to almost like a triangle,
and they suddenly appeared and then they just vanished, no

(01:35:43):
fading trail, no movement, just absolutely gone. The shape never returned,
the lights never reappeared, and he never really got a
good picture on his phone. Like I said, he sent
me a video of it, and what what I've seen
on it, it looks he sucks like it's like it's
pretty creepy, low key, but it's hard to really be

(01:36:05):
able to tell you that it's actually a UFO. But
like I said, I'll send it. You're to weigh over
on Facebook later after the show, so you can kind
of see the video, but you can see clearly like
six to eight lights in a triangle formation appear and
then almost disappear instantly.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
That is amazing, and so many people have had that happen,
you know, where you just get these formations that are
just there. I had it happen at one of my
Sasquatch areas. It was nuts. One minute it was there,
the next minute it wasn't like three lights making a
triangle shape, and they just vanished the minute I go

(01:36:46):
to pull out my phone vanished.

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
Still bugget almost it almost knows like you're trying to
document it, you.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
Know, absolutely, you're You're absolutely right about that. It literally
was like, okay, he's pulling out his phone, autumn to
drop out and the third one fades away, and I'm
like you sons of bitches, you know, like come on.

Speaker 3 (01:37:10):
Yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
All right, let's get to some audience questions here. My
friend Guah Pat's asking, what's the craziest experience You've had?

Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
Crazy experience I've had? Personally? Yeah, man, that could be
a lot of things, but I'll base it to the paranormal.
When I was an early teenager, I used to be
big And when I say big into ghost hunting, I
was big into ghost hunting until I was about eighteen
years old. When I was about sixteen, I went to

(01:37:46):
this actually crazy historic slave plantation in Knoxville, Tennessee. Well
just outside of Knoxville, Tennessee. It was probably closer to
like severe Vole maybe even like yeah, probably Revo area.
So all my my East Tennessee home. He is probably
know what I'm talking about. And I just remember going

(01:38:07):
there and experiencing the most negative experience in my life.
And the first thing I remember walking up, we walked up,
there's all these like dilapidated greenhouses everywhere, this big Victorian
house that was falling apart, and there was literally like
a jeepers creepers truck right in front of that house.
And I remember being like, well, that that doesn't seem promising,

(01:38:32):
you know, that was that was promising at all, Dave.
So I'm probably gonna get screwed over here if i
go into this house next to this really obvious jeeper
screepers truck. Guess what I did, Dave. I went into
that house.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
Of course you did.

Speaker 3 (01:38:47):
And I climbed all the way up to the dilapidated
freaking attict, Dave. And you want to know what I
experienced up there. I got smacked in the face by
dan pebble that came out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
Oh, So like.

Speaker 3 (01:39:02):
I was like, hey, y'all, anything happening up here? And
guess what? I got a freaking pebble to the face.
And then I was there, all right, y'all brave throw
another one. Guess what happened to my face after a
bigger pebble. So I was like, you know what, how

(01:39:24):
about you guys go in front of me. So I
try to get my friend will and Nevin to go
in front of me. But the problem was is Nevin
is just a walk and mean. So Nevin comes up here,
he starts talking trash of this ghost and I swear
to you, Dave, everything goes quiet, nothing happens when Nevin

(01:39:46):
goes up there. But the moment I climbed down, my
friend William climbs down, and Evan's about to climb down,
he gets smacked in the face with the biggest rock
that could possibly be up in that attic and he
had a black eye for two weeks. Okay, So when
people when people are like ghosts aren't real. It was like,

(01:40:07):
might just need to talk some trash to him, my friend.

Speaker 1 (01:40:11):
Yeah, that's that's wild. T Bone is wondering for man,
T Bone is wondering. Do you think the whole UFO,
paranormal and cryptids seemed to becoming one thing.

Speaker 3 (01:40:25):
To an extent? I think everything like runs into itself
to an extent, depending on like I guess where we
are in life, right, So like energy is energy. I
think everything is based off energy. But I'm not sure
I could say, Hey, these UFOs and these ghosts and

(01:40:45):
these cryptids all run together. I think crypti is genuinely
at the end of the day, or just species we
havn't like one hundred percent been able to study or understand.
And then when it comes to the paranormal, I do
believe that there's more to life than just what we understand. Right,
there's obviously energy, and it continues on after you die.
I don't think it all connects. I think it's all

(01:41:08):
very specific things to different things. I think energy in
general connects to each other, but I don't think it's
all the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
Moving on, let's go to matrom What do you think
of the movie hail Mary, I.

Speaker 3 (01:41:25):
Don't I've seen that movie yet.

Speaker 1 (01:41:27):
I haven't seen it either. We'll move on. Let's go
to Pat again. Hearing growling but not recognizing the animal
and not seeing anything around was my worst evidence I've
ever had. Let me tell you. We had that happen
with sasquatch or the forest last year at one of
our locations, Swampy, and it was like I had my

(01:41:49):
first Nation's friend, Lally with us, and she sang and drummed.
Within three minutes of her finishing drumming, from probably maybe
thirty forty yards in front of us in the trees,
we heard the two loudest, most violent tree knocks I've
ever heard. It was so creepy, man terrifying, it was.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
I mean, I've been in the woods most of my life,
you know, I've been camping most of my life. Most
of the time when I camp, it's very primitive. I've
had very few creepy encounters out there. I've had coyotes
come up to me. I've had wolverines come up to me.
I've had bears come up to me. I've had whatever

(01:42:37):
you can imagine come to me. Florida panthers. Realistically, I
think the scariest thing that has ever come up to
me in the wild doing my experiences was the Florida panther.
You didn't hear it. It was just there. It was
literally in the tent with this dave. It's head was poked.
He poked his head through the damn tent, and I

(01:42:59):
was like, Oh, hey, what's up, bro. It was such
a crazy experience. I would say that the Florida panther
is probably the scariest thing of experience is because like
you can't hear them. But I'm so happy that they're
coming back, and I would do anything to protect those guys.
So I hope the Florida panthers continue to come back.
I hope the general Southeastern you know, cougar comes back.

(01:43:22):
And let's just keep these animals safe. You know, that's
for me, Like, you know, I just love the animals
of America, Canada, anywhere. I want to keep these animals safe,
you know, at the end of the day, regardless of
paranormal or bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
I agree, I agree, I love the animals. We had
last year when we were out at one of our locations,
we had just put our pointy sticks away back in
the vehicle and literally two minutes after we did that,
I look on the trail, I hear something move. I
look down the trail and here is say mountain lion

(01:44:01):
running right across the trail, like maybe maybe thirty forty
feet from us.

Speaker 3 (01:44:07):
I was like, beauty, Okay, you could, you could come
and get me anytime you want. Yeah, but you didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:44:16):
She's gorgeous. She was gorgeous. I mean, the only thing
you can really say is hello.

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
I I camped out in the Everglades for probably two
and a half weeks by myself. I think it was
fourteen nex sue me sixteen days, just under two and
a half weeks, and I experienced some amazing things. And
I wanted to do it because I personally knew that
I have I have. I don't know how to say

(01:44:47):
this in a way that doesn't sound like weird and condescending,
but I've made so much of my life off of
all these stories and off of nature, and off of
what Florida and the world and the country provide.

Speaker 1 (01:44:58):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:45:00):
So I had this moment in my life about a
year ago where I was like, gotta go down there
for at least two weeks by myself, in the middle
of the Everglades. I was born there, so you know,
I have a connection to it, but I have to
do it in a sense, just like we're not doing

(01:45:20):
this for views, We're not doing this for clicks, We're
not doing this for whatever. And I went down there
and I spent two weeks deep. And when I say
deep in the Everglades, I mean, like, dude, I was
genuinely waste deep in mud, fighting off gators, fighting off parasites,

(01:45:40):
fighting off snapping turtles, fighting off everything you could imagine
that would be waste deep in water and mud. And
I got to this place that is very rare in
the Everglades. It's called the Platform. It's a place that's
about sixteen miles deep and it's about forty five miles

(01:46:02):
from the nearest human, you know place at all. And
I didn't think i'd make it, but I had this
goal in my mind. I'm born, raised here. I gotta
do this. I gotta have some sort of real connection

(01:46:23):
to the earth here. And I went as deep as
I could. I went past the place where you're supposed
to go. I went sixteen point seven miles past the
place you're supposed to go. I was two point six miles,
I would say, outside of the actual coastline of Florida.

(01:46:43):
That's how deep I was in the Everglades. I got
to see kyman, I saw all kinds of invasive species,
like you know, Burmese pythons, and I even saw a
couple of green and a condas, And as much as
I could, I can ate them. That was the food
I had. But there was just me and a very

(01:47:06):
close friend of mine that was from the Seminole Creek tribe.
And as much as I can't really tell you about
most of what we did, I could tell you this, Dave.
It elicited a thought in my brain that made me
realize that everything is real, man, whether it's paranormal, whether

(01:47:32):
it's UFO, whether it's cryptid, everything is real. I saw
skunk apes, I saw snakes bigger than you could ever
imagine existed. I saw things like I feel like I'm
Paul Rosalie right now, you know what I mean. Like
I saw things that didn't make any freaking sense. And
I was just like, this exists an hour from where

(01:47:54):
I live. You're telling me, I'm literally only an hour
from my house right now, and I'm seeing snakes the
size of trains I'm seeing, I'm seeing hogs the size
of a small freaking car, you know what I mean. Like,
it's just it's just's insane when you see these things
out there and you're like, what this exists out here?

(01:48:16):
So like, imagine if you go down to the Amazon
and you really get deep, like a Paul Rosalie, like
what did this guy see? So I guess at this
point my my next goal in life, Dave, is to
go to the go to the Amazon, you know, and
see what the hell's down there, because I feel like
I've seen everything in the Everglades, and I'm just like,

(01:48:36):
the things you see in the Everglades would probably terrify
you up in Canada, but the things I see in
Canada terrify me down in the Everglades. So it's a beautiful,
complete cycle, you.

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
Know, it really is. You know, I often, I often
want to go way north of where I am, man uh,
you know, I'm almost at the central part of British Columbia.
But I have heard, you know, stories from people up north,
especially indigenous people, where along the coastline there's apparently still

(01:49:08):
pterodactyls that fly up there. There are sasquatchs that are
allegedly seen that are between fifteen and twenty feet tall.
That's where you get into the bigger bears, where you're
almost getting into polar bear type size bears with the
kodiaks and the brown bears and and that are bigger

(01:49:29):
than grizzlies. You know, you get into you know, you
go way up north. That's where you get into the moose,
where they're almost you know, two than twenty five hundred pounds.
They're only about fifteen hundred pounds where I am. You
get into where the where the uh? What do they

(01:49:49):
call the muskos. I've never seen a muskox. I'd love
to see a muskox. But you gotta go way up north.
You gotta go see. Yeah, let's go fight a let's.

Speaker 3 (01:50:00):
Go ahead, but them, dude, I'm terrified of moose. A
moose is probably the most terrifying thing I could ever see.
I've never seen a moose in my life. But I
tell you right now, Dave as Man the men, if
I see a moose, I probably crap myself. Oh dude,
those are terrifying, especially in the winter because they're always rutting, right,

(01:50:23):
So I'm just like, I don't ever want to be
near them. Moose are the things that I'm more scared
of than anything. As somebody who used to go see
their step grandparents up a main Connecticut, you know, New Hampshire,
I've seen enough moose in my time. And uh, that's
where I discover what koy dogs were. Any of you
guys have chat on what Koi dogs are? Definitely look

(01:50:45):
those up. That's not a good mix. I guess it
kind of gets back to the point of where it's like,
where how did I get to where I am? Now?
It's coy dogs? Brother? You know, you know these these crazy,
weird creatures that like mate with each other and suddenly
make a whole new predator. And you're sitting there looking

(01:51:05):
at this thing, and you're like, what is this Harry
Potter looking wear a wolf thing? Have you ever seen
a Kuoi dog?

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
I've never seen one. I've only ever seen one and.

Speaker 3 (01:51:16):
A German shepherd for the most part mixed together. Yeah,
and I've only seen two my whole life. I mean,
it could be any dog. Really, it's a Koi dog obviously,
But I used to visit my grandparents up in Connecticut,
all time they lived. Shoot, where did they live. It
was Farmington, Connecticut, very close to where the Haunting Connecticut

(01:51:42):
took place in the Conjuring movies. Literally up the street
was the house that that took place in. Actually, I
used to visit them multiple times my whole lifetime, you know,
from like fourth grade up to like sixth grade and
that stuff going. But after I had that Koi dog experience,
to my buddy Robert in his backyard. He had this

(01:52:04):
backyard that went up into these deep, deep woods and
it was a steeper and steeper up a mountain, and
we were building this fort one time, and for whatever reason,
he had this idea, He's like, if we pee around
this fort, Dave, it'll be untouchable. Of course, I was like,
perfect idea. Man, I'm from Florida. I don't know any

(01:52:27):
about that. We don't pee around our freaking forts, you know.
So I was like, well, what the gator's gonna come
get me?

Speaker 6 (01:52:34):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:52:34):
So I was like, all right, whatever, So we started
peeing around it, and like we saw a bunch of
deer jumping over and running past us all through the
day and then out of nowhere. And this is probably
where I actually started believing dog Man. To be honest,
there was this do you know what Professor Lupin looked
like in the Harry Potter movies when he turned into

(01:52:55):
a werewolf? Yes, like this really any grayhound looking almost creature.
I saw that behind a tree, and I was like Robert,
and at the end of the day, my name is
Robert too. I was like, Robert, do you see that?

(01:53:15):
And he looked at it and he just instantly ran
down the hill instantly like this left me without saying
a damn thing. And I just remember looking back and
just making an eye contact with this thing, and this
thing was like, hey, brother, I'm about to mess your
day up. And I was just like, you know what
I'm on. We'll run down the hill with my little

(01:53:36):
sketchers and I'll be gone right lost my dang sketcher
halfway down the damn hill, the ones that lit up,
you know, the fun sketch.

Speaker 1 (01:53:45):
I remember that I had.

Speaker 3 (01:53:47):
To go back and get it because I knew my
parents were gonna kill me because it cost us like
fifty bucks for them dang shoes. Nobody wanted to go
back up with me. It took me like six hours.
Low key, I had to go up with my buddies dad,
and even then the dad seems scared. And that's why
I've always thought about that, you know, experience so deeply

(01:54:07):
in my life where it was like, all right, we're
in Farmington, Connecticut, not that far in the deep woods.

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
We got to say good night to you, my friend.
Thank you. Always appreciate you. You're awesome. You're listening to
spaced Out Radio with your host Dave Scott. I got

(01:54:45):
so involved with uh listening to you, buddy, I screwed
up on the time.

Speaker 3 (01:54:49):
There no no worries, dude, It's all good. Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:54:54):
Let's do it off.

Speaker 3 (01:54:54):
When you need to.

Speaker 1 (01:54:55):
Brother, Let's do this again soon.

Speaker 3 (01:54:59):
No, for sure, I'm open pretty much anytime until August
for the most part. Like I'll be gone April, yeah,
but like June July. It should be good. So if
you want to have me on at least once or twice,
I'll be good.

Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
I love it. Let's do it. I got to get
a hold of you soon about some other stuff too.

Speaker 6 (01:55:19):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (01:55:19):
Let's do it all right, brother, you take care okay,
be safe.

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
I appreciate I appreciate it. Brother.

Speaker 1 (01:55:24):
You take care of good one. Swamp dweller is just
such a great dude. I will be right back and
get your tickets for Caribou Khan right there.

Speaker 4 (01:56:01):
S y.

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
Nine, all right, just around the corner there she is.

Speaker 6 (02:00:22):
Hi, Rob, Hey, sweetheart, little trouble getting on tonight, but
I'm here.

Speaker 1 (02:00:27):
I'm glad you made it.

Speaker 6 (02:00:29):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 (02:00:32):
I'm glad you made it.

Speaker 6 (02:00:34):
Yeah. I love everybody on here.

Speaker 1 (02:00:36):
Reverend Wolf, welcome to so our chat and Monica Davis,
how are you? Thank you to Necessary Dialogue, Tea Bone, Kmart,
Mickey and Beno for the super chats tonight. I apologize
I didn't get to all the questions, but that's some

(02:01:00):
times happens on this show. We're coming back in ten seconds,
my friend. Here we go with the third and final

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Speaker 9 (02:02:22):
Hello, and welcome to spaced Out Radio's Swamp. I'm swamp dweller,
and tonight I'm going to take you on a mystic
journey of the unkno sharing tales of monsters, legends and nightmares.

Speaker 3 (02:02:35):
Welcome to the space Out Radio Swamp. Mister Swamp. I
hope you're doing well. I have been recently listening to
your videos for the past two months. I finally grew
enough strength to finally let someone know what I've seen.
To give you a little background, at the time, it
was twenty twelve, give or take. It was the end

(02:02:57):
of March. I don't necessarily know what day it was
for sure, but I do know that it was around
eight pm when we entered a fishery called Kennorock. It's
a fishery in Florida. Now, I'm not worried about hiding
any information from anybody. I'm one of those types of
people when I see it and I believe it. And
that night I never even told my wife, who was

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with me at the time. So let me start.

Speaker 1 (02:03:22):
One day.

Speaker 3 (02:03:23):
My wife got a brand new twenty twelve Fiat. It
was orange and it looked great. We just so happened
to be driving past the fishery, give or take, around
eight pm at night. And now, in my mind, the
fishery is pretty huge. You're able to load boats, walk
pass fish from the bank, et cetera. So we happened
to just be driving the entire park. We lost track

(02:03:44):
of time because we did not know that the gate
will be closed if you weren't out at a certain time.
So me and my wife get to this gate which
is locked, and on the gate is a steel plated
note that says, if you are here after closing hours,
please call Fishing Game. So that's exactly what we did.
I got on the phone and started calling them Fish
and Game asked why we were not out of there.

(02:04:05):
I told him it was our first time coming out there,
and we did not know that we had to be
out by a certain time. Apparently, this guy said he
would be coming all the way from Lake Wales and
it was going to take him roughly two to three
hours to get there. So I said, that was quite
all right, we have nowhere to go and we'll be
waiting here at the front gate. He said okay, and
that he was on his way. Honestly, I don't know

(02:04:26):
how long we waited. We chilled in the car and waited,
and eventually so much time went by we passed out.
Something woke me up and just told me to press
the brakes. So I pushed the brakes and it luned
what was behind me, and out of the rear view
mirror I noticed a pack of hogs that were give
or take twenty to thirty feet away from the back
of the car. Now keep in mind, I do not

(02:04:47):
tell my wife this because she was sleeping out cold
during all of this. So as I was stepping on
the brake, I counted over sixteen hogs that passed the
brake lights in one particular way. Honestly, I wasn't freaked
out until this particular one, which was way too big
moved by This thing was two to three times the
size of the rest of the hogs out there. And

(02:05:09):
I know hogs get big, but I thought this was
just too big. And this thing suddenly stands up and
looks at me through the mirror. That is when I
got a good look at these yellow eyes and a
dark silhouette of what I thought was Bigfoot. But I
know Bigfoot would not walk on off forms and then
stand straight up and look at you. And also, why

(02:05:32):
would Bigfoot be hanging out with a bunch of hogs
and not eating them. I don't know. It doesn't make
sense to me. I'll be honest with you. I'm not
one to be very fearful of anything. Hell, I watched
my father pass away in front of me, and that
was the scariest thing I've ever seen, so I've never
really been scared of anything that ever mounted up to that.
But I do tell you this, when I saw whatever

(02:05:52):
this thing was, it scared the crap out of me.
I did not know what to do. The only thing
I had was a pocket knife, and I don't think
it was much longer than eight inches, give or take.
I wasn't going to get out of the car, but
me and this thing stared at each other through a
mirror for what I felt like was two minutes. My
wife eventually moved, so I thought she was getting up,

(02:06:15):
so I released my foot off the break. I paid
attention to her, just as she got more comfortable and
fell back asleep. When I applied the brakes again, this
thing was gone. I got out of the car to
see what was behind me. On the gravel road. There
were two footprints. They looked pretty human, but they had
an extra tow that I did not ever recognize to
be human. I'll be honest, I'm a pretty outdoorsy person.

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I've wrestled hogs bare handed, and I've caught gaiters in
the water. Anything that any normal person would avoid, I
usually went after. But after what I seen, this changed
my point of view. Immediately I thought I was pretty
crazy for a while. Sometimes I'll still drive by that fishery.
I've never even told my wife because I think that
she gets really scared, really quick about just about anything.

(02:07:02):
But from what I understand, a lot of people are
listening to your stories, and I've narrowed it down to
three things that this thing could have been. It was
either a bigfoot, a skim walker, or some sort of
deer Man or when to Go. Where I'm from in Florida,
stories like this are not very common because I live
in central Florida and everybody here owns guns and we'll

(02:07:23):
to shoot at whatever scares them, which is not a
smart thing either. Honestly, I'd greatly appreciate it if you
could just read the story and share it with the audience.
I don't know what this is, and I just want
to have peace of mind again. I'd be super grateful
to know anything that you might have. Please comment in
the comments anybody that's listening. I'll be honest, I'm kind

(02:07:45):
of superstitious and I just don't want to fall into
a bad way, you know.

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Speaker 1 (02:08:40):
To Saskatch every day, Holy and stays down Radioscryptic Cuban Dames,
Robin Haynes. It's always great to have you back on
the show. How you doing, I'm good?

Speaker 6 (02:08:51):
How are you doing tonight?

Speaker 1 (02:08:55):
I am good? I am good. And you know, we
got a lot to talk about here, because one of
the big things that you and I need to discuss
is something that is very close to your heart, and
that is the Patterson Gimlin film.

Speaker 6 (02:09:12):
Oh yes, I've been getting asked a lot of questions
about that. Oh my goodness. Yes.

Speaker 1 (02:09:20):
So let's break it down for people. There is this
movie director named Mark who created a documentary about the
Patterson Gimlin film. It's being shown at south By Southwest
of Documentary and TV gala. You know, one of these
you know, like movie type of yeah things that's going on.

(02:09:41):
And I'm not a movie guy, so it's very difficult
for me to even understand or comprehend what these galas
are like. And anyways, to make this story a little
bit more interesting, he did a story and he's done
a documentary on the Patterson Gimlin film where he says
that he has uncovered extra footage that shows that the

(02:10:05):
entire video from nineteen sixty seven of Patty the Sasquatch
from Bluff Creek, California is actually fake. And now this video,
this documentary has not been released to the public just yet.
This director is an acclaimed director. He is somebody who
apparently has a lot of credibility, and I'm not going

(02:10:27):
to shoot him down for it, but apparently he got
this new sixteen millimeter film that has been basically sitting
in storage for the last sixty years almost and it
apparently has a video of somebody getting into a costume
that looks like it and shows that the Patterson Gimlin
film is fake. So what's happened here is twofold number one.

(02:10:52):
There's a lot of people in the Bigfoot field already
who are saying, I knew it was fake. I always
want it to be fake, and it's fake. But the
other thing that it's done too is it's really put
a fire under many skeptics out there who now say,
we told you that there was no such thing as bigfoot,

(02:11:14):
and now your one and only piece of evidence that's
any good has been proven to be a hoax. So
there's the rundown of it all. And I want to
get your opinion on this.

Speaker 6 (02:11:28):
Okay. First off, before I say anything, I want to
point out something and again, everything I'm going to tell
you guys is based on my opinion, what I know,
and what I've been told by the Sasquatch. Okay, So
don't shoot the messenger on any of it. Number One,
I stand very firmly for Bob Gimblin. I only was

(02:11:51):
blessed with having one conversation with Bob, and that was
back in like twenty eleven, twenty twelve, egor board stuff
was staying at my house. I got on there on
the phone and him and I talked. But I'm going
to tell you something energetically speaking, he's a beautiful human being.
I found him to be of the utmost integrity and

(02:12:14):
he has my full support. I think he got thrown
into position that he probably didn't realize was going to
be as big as what it was, and I think
he handled it to the very best of his abilities.
I do not feel that he has lied or misled anybody,
and I've had people come at me for years for
saying that. I still stand by it. That hasn't changed
my opinion. As far as the footage films, probably con

(02:12:41):
trouble for saying this. At one time I had what
they call the Trackway footage. I was holding it for
the person that owned it, and that is a compilation
of everything they took photogyz on the mountain. At one
time I had the Patterson film. I was holding for

(02:13:01):
someone else. The film does exist. It had handwriting from
Roger Patterson on the can and the can was sealed,
had not been opened yet. It was put in there
right after it was filmed. I don't have it with
me anymore, but I had it for a very long time,
and the information that I was given on this film

(02:13:24):
was extensive. Okay, it's not my film, don't have it.
But what I will say is the that film. Everybody
can say what they want. It was fake. It was this.
It was that. Everybody's looking at that film it being fake.
As if that film was created in this day and age.

(02:13:44):
If you take yourself back to the nineteen sixties, nineteen
sixty seven to be exact, there is no way that
costume could be made like that. They did not have
the capabilities or the know how, Not even the film
studio could have made that costume the way Patty looks,
It's not possible. Second, doctor Igor bore Stuff, who his

(02:14:09):
name alone speaks for itself. Seventy years of research, fifty years,
seventy years of research now and I've known Igor since
two thousand and ten, I believe twenty ten or eleven.
Very good friend of mine think the world of him,
and him and his wife at the time did a

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study on that film. They checked flexing of the muscles,
they checked the movement, the rotation. There was a lot
of extensive work put into that film and watching her movements,
studying every move that she made. They could not find
it fake. Okay, when you watch that film, if you

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look at the bottom of Patty's feet, one key point
that you see on I would say ninety nine point
nine percent of action sasquatch footage is the color of
the bottom of the feet. It's always the lighter color
than the rest of the body, that comes from walking
on the dirt, callouses, that kind of thing. Of course,
Patty had that honor. You can take that film apart,

(02:15:15):
you can call it a fake. I get why people
think it's fake, Like, I get it, But the thing
of it is everybody also goes on about how it's clear.
The film is too clear, it can't possibly be real
because they're always taking blurry pildos. Think about this same
thing I say every week. Everything's frequency and energy. When

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that film was done, it was made on film. It
was like eight millimeters sixteen million or something like that.
I think it was eight millimeter. But regardless, it was
made on film. It was not digital. Guys in that
film they could get them clear as day. Sasquatch radiate
frequency and energy. Those films. It did not pick up

(02:15:57):
energy and frequency. That's why the film is not blurry.
That's why our cameras now make them blurry. We're digitized.
It's digital now. It was not digital then. Okay, so
that explains the clarity. And again not all plans use
that paranormal abilities. If they are a lower if they

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are a clan that does not use paranormal abilities, they
still have high frequency, but not as high as the
ones that use the paranormal which means they're not going
to blur as much. All right, But there is no
way to replicate a costume like that. Now, are there
people that came forward and said, oh, it was filmed,
it was a man is a suit? That trackway footage

(02:16:39):
is a compilation of all kinds of footage having to
do with the time that Bob and Roger were looking
for her when that happened. Could someone have came out
and said, yeah, look at it, me in a suit
and had that on film? One hundred percent? Now, my
personal opinion, this is not me talking to Roger's widow

(02:17:03):
or anything else. Okay, if I was somebody back in
the nineteen sixty seven and my husband came out with
a film like that, you think you get ridiculed? Now,
can you imagine what they did to that family? Then
I would be out there in a heartbeat going no,
it's fake, it's fake. You know, yeah, a stroke, he's

(02:17:23):
lost his mind. Whatever, to get the attention to tear
it away from you so that you don't look like
a raving lunatic. In nineteen sixty seven, nobody was going
to believe this, And for the record, people saw sasquatch
long before that. Teddy Roosevelt did. Okay, there was what

(02:17:45):
is the Osterman where Albert Ostrian? Is that what his name?
Was Oh, they got picked up, thank you. I am
terrible with names, guys, that's just me. And where he
was picked up and dragged off. Does somebody want to
inform them that what happened to them and their experience
was fake? Because I don't think so. That film is legit.

(02:18:06):
I will stand by that with every breath I take
till the day I die. I've watched it a million times.
MK Davis has analyzed that till there's nothing left of
that film. I sent the Trackway film to MK Davis
to have him analyze it eons ago. He couldn't find
anything fake in it. And there was all kinds of

(02:18:29):
footage of trackways up and down the mountain where they,
you know, everything that went on during their time before
they actually saw her. And everybody comes down on MK
with the new evidence he found about what happened after.
So while we're unpacking all this, we're going to address
that too. Before he ever came out with that, I

(02:18:53):
spoke mind speak with the Sasquatch up there. I was
told a very large story by them about Patty, some
of it we don't even need to go into. Okay,
Patty ended up ostracized from the klan because she turned
around and walked back to the klan. There were other
Sasquatch there. I'm not going to say one hundred percent

(02:19:16):
everything that MK found is one hundred percent legit, not
because I think he lied, but because I couldn't verify
all of it with the other Sasquatch. Okay, do I
think MK has lied about anything? No, I do not.
I don't. However, the stuff that I was able to
get verified with the Sasquatch confirm a lot of what

(02:19:38):
MK Davis found. The Sasquatch admit it happened, and for
the record, ninety percent of the Sasquatch did not like Patty.
I was supposed to speak at a conference in Georgia
one year and they were going to do something for
the fiftieth anniversary for Patty. The Sasquatch had a fit.

(02:19:58):
I had to pull from the conference because they deemed
her a traitor because she turned around instead of walking away.
She got scared, she walked to her people. When she
walked towards her people, that's when some got her. You know,

(02:20:19):
I've in mind speaking with these things for a long time.
Do I claim to be an expert, Absolutely not. Do
I claim that everything that I hear them say, maybe
you know, I mean, I think it's true. I've never
been able to confirm that anything I'm getting isn't right.
It either happens or it goes about as they say,
including this big what they are claiming, the big changes

(02:20:40):
are going on in the world, how the Earth is
going to change. They told me about the shift years
before the frequency shift, the years before it happened. I've
not been able to get anything that came from them
not to be true. Are there some that are bad
sasquatch that will lie? Yeah, but it's easy to tell. Well,
but the good ones have come forward and told me

(02:21:02):
information and it's been right every time. And if they're
going to lie, I highly doubt they are going to
lie about their own people or the fact that they
were upset that their person is ended up being what
they consider a trader. Now, I did find one sasquatch
that said, yeah, I know about Patty's. You know she's good.

(02:21:25):
And I said, okay, you don't have a problem with
her and he said no, why And I said, well
because the others said that. And he said, well, I
feel bad for her because you know, they were mean
to her afterwards. Okay, that makes sense. But the reality
is this is what went down. So again, you guys,
this is what I've learned. This is my opinion. I'm

(02:21:45):
not an expert, but I do not believe. Now as
far as the person that's got the film out, I
don't know this person. I have nothing against them, and
I'm sure that he believes what he's putting in his film.
And that's okay. You know, nobody should be hating on
them or saying anything bad about it. If that's his
belief system, then that's what it is, you know, and sensationalismself.

(02:22:08):
So I don't have anything negative to say about him
or you know, to say, oh, he's lying it. No,
everybody believes what they're going to believe. This is my truth.
This is what I've learned from them. I've had the
you know, I've seen it. I know Eagor analyzed it.
You know, Eagor's credentials are above reproach, and he studied this.

(02:22:32):
I saw the diagrams. He showed me the diagrams from
the sketches from where they measured the rotations the movement.
But again, I want you guys to really think about it.
Back in nineteen sixty seven, there was not even a
Hollywood company that could replicate a suit.

Speaker 1 (02:22:49):
Well, they actually had people from Disneyland and and Disney
look into these suits and they said, there's no way
we could have We've.

Speaker 6 (02:22:59):
Could have made exactly exactly. And if you watch it
closely and you zoom in when she's walking, you will
see muscles flexing underneath the hair. Now, the one thing
I have noticed when I've been up close to Sasquatch
and they're walking, their hair almost it's not that it parts,
but you can see movement of the hair on those muscles,

(02:23:21):
and the muscles flex while they're walking because they're just
so they're one giant muscle. That's really what they are.
And in that film, if you can get that film
blown up, I actually did it and played it on
a sixty five inch TV screen and walked up to
the screen so that I could get as close up
and see it as large as I could. You can

(02:23:42):
see the muscles flexing. You know, there's a lot of
people that, oh, you can see where she got shot
in the thigh. Personally, I never saw that, Oh she's
got a baby on her back. Never happen. If it is.
It's been invisible to me because I can't see the
baby on the back, but you can see a lot
of other things. I also, I have a picture of
a sasquatch that I took on my property that has

(02:24:04):
the facial hair almost like hers.

Speaker 1 (02:24:07):
Robin, I'm gonna get you to hold on right there.
We're gonna continue with this great debate now in the
bigfoot world. Is the Patterson and Gimblin film film a hoax?
I don't personally think so many others do.

Speaker 5 (02:24:25):
This is spaced out radio and your hosts names Scott.

Speaker 1 (02:24:55):
All right, Robin, we are clear.

Speaker 6 (02:24:58):
Awesome. Yeah, what a great topic.

Speaker 1 (02:25:07):
Fantastic topic.

Speaker 4 (02:25:10):
You know.

Speaker 6 (02:25:10):
I have been contacted so much about this. It's just
been a riot, you know. And as far as the
person that did the film, I don't know this person.
I don't feel that he's trying to be untruthful, Like
I don't feel that he's a bad person or he's
trying to discredit anybody or anything. Maybe he is, but

(02:25:31):
I don't know him. But I don't take the movie
in that respect. But another thing, in that trackway footage,
there are footprints from all over that mountain, from them,
not just Patty, but the other ones as well. A
sasquatch footprint and a fingerprint, and their dermal ridges run

(02:25:53):
different than ours. Those footprints were made by something and
they were not our people. They did not just appear
out of thin air. There's so many things besides just
looking at her physical presence that showed she existed. The

(02:26:18):
reason Bob and Roger were sent there to begin with
were because of some things that were going on in
that mountain, and I don't want to get into that
because of different problems.

Speaker 1 (02:26:34):
Well, let's just save it until we get back, because
I do have some questions. We've got your opinion, and
I've got a bunch of questions about this coming up,
and and I want to make sure that we can
get them all in there.

Speaker 6 (02:26:50):
Yeah. And like I said, I'm not claiming I'm an
expert on this, I'm not. This is just my opinion
what I've learned about it.

Speaker 1 (02:27:13):
Clean in that area alive today, we'll figure that out. Well,
I'll try and get those questions guys. Joe says that
I was told Robin had a message for me, but
I wasn't here that night. What was it? Oh?

Speaker 6 (02:27:33):
Yeah, yeah, I tried showing up, mister Joel. They wanted
me to let you know that there was two more
with them that night. There's actually five there that night
instead of three, I believe, is what the message was.
They get hold of me every now and then, which
has been a riot because it's been years now. You
know that I talked to them on and off. I
mean not a lot, but a little bit. But they

(02:27:55):
just wanted you to know that there was two more
there that night, So they didn't want you to be
frightened if you realized that there were extra ones there.
But they were all behaving.

Speaker 1 (02:28:06):
Well, that's nice of them.

Speaker 6 (02:28:08):
Yeah. Yeah, He's got really good ones over there, and
they think the world of him, they really do, and
he's been good to them.

Speaker 1 (02:28:29):
That's what I think. They're jealous of his hair.

Speaker 6 (02:28:32):
Well, they think he's one of them. They used to
follow me around the woods and they'd come up behind
me and they'd be doing this on my head and
they'd be cloaked, and all of a sudden, i'd feel
hands on the back of my hair like this. And
if I went to bed at night, i'd leave my
window open. I'd wait and my bed was right next
to the window. I'd wake up and I'd have mud
and leaves in my hair where they would play with
my hair at night. They love the hair. I was

(02:29:01):
talking to one with eager boar stuff one time and
it was talking that it's made liked my hair because
I had long hair. It reminded her of hers. I
was like, okay, I'm a yetti. Alright, what whatever?

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(02:30:32):
kick off the final half hour of spaced Out Radio tonight.
My name is Dave Scott and we have our good
friend Robin Haynes talking Patterson Gimlin film because it's a
big hot button topic right now in the Bigfoot cryptid world. Robin,
welcome back.

Speaker 3 (02:30:50):
Hi.

Speaker 6 (02:30:52):
I would like to say something Dave, if I may sure, Okay,
as I said you guys, I don't know the person
that has the video out. You're never going to find
me on a show trash talking anybody, because I don't
believe in that at all, and I don't think unkindly
about this person at all. But I will say this,

(02:31:12):
I think a little bit of kindness towards each other
would be really kind a good thing. And these are
Bob Gimlin's and Roger Patterson's experiences, and it's okay for
us to question whether or not it could be a possibility.
But I think we all need to like look within
ourselves and not question the integrity of people. Those are

(02:31:36):
their experiences. They may not be our experiences, but they
are theirs. And we have to stay in some kind
of a judgment free zone because we weren't there to
see it or not see it. And so you know,
I just like I said, I've met Bob. I think
he's a wonderful human being. But this goes across the

(02:31:57):
board for anybody. You know, I've been on the receiver
en of it, and I try to make sure I'm
not like that with anybody else. If you aren't comfortable
with somebody else's experience, there's no reason to be unkind, Okay,
those are their experiences. They own those experiences, and they
have a right to their belief in them. We may
not believe in them, but they have a right to

(02:32:18):
their own opinion, just as this man that has the
video out, and I mean that for his sake, as
well as Bob Gimblins, that may be his opinion, whether
any of us agree with it or disagree with it,
or maybe you do agree with it, but just I
think a little bit of kindness is an order on it.

Speaker 1 (02:32:35):
I would agree, I would agree, and that there's going
to be a lot of debate coming up here about this,
oh yeah, very very soon, especially after this video gets released.
Here's one thing that I had heard a rumor of
years ago, and I never put much stock into it
until now. Though Robin weren't Patterson and Gimlin allegedly the

(02:32:58):
week before or a few days before, trying to actually
film some sort of Sasquatch movie up there.

Speaker 6 (02:33:08):
I had not heard that. Is that possible? Yeah? I
mean I don't know every conversation or anything like that
that I was not told about. I think they thought
about if they could get enough footage, if they could
possibly get her on film, because they didn't know it
was a her. They just knew there was something up there.
They didn't even know what it was.

Speaker 3 (02:33:26):
Then.

Speaker 6 (02:33:26):
Yeah, I think the if you know, I would assume
I was not told this, but I would assume that, Yeah,
they were probably talking about putting it into a movie.
I think they probably would want you if this is
something that was undiscovered. You know, I think anybody, in
all fairness, if you are out and you get something
on film that's never been discovered before, you're like, my gosh,

(02:33:46):
we could take this. We could make a movie out
of it and show everybody. Let's show the world. So
do I think that's a possibility. I absolutely do think
that's a possibility. Had I heard that rumor, No, I
have not.

Speaker 1 (02:33:59):
The other thing about this is I am a firm believer,
and you mentioned this earlier, and I've said this numerous
times on this show, that back in the day, it
was a more conservative society. People were not you know,
I mean, let's face it, we had people out there

(02:34:20):
who were literally finding women for wearing a bathing suit
more than an inch above their knees. Yeah, okay, it
was a conservative time. I don't think Roger Patterson or
Bob Gimlin were the type of people who would sew
a pair of breasts on this creature just for the

(02:34:43):
sake of it. If they were going to make a
fake outfit, I think they would have just yeah, they
may have put some pillows in the shoulders or whatever
to make it look large. But the two that really
get me on this, actually the three things that get
me on this. Number one of the rests okay because
and I'm not even a boob guy, but we're gonna

(02:35:05):
point those out. Number two would be the no neck,
the way they were to deliver on that if it
was fake, the way they were to deliver on that,
with going from just shoulders to straight head with a
conical shaped head. That it's exactly what I saw in

(02:35:26):
my first encounter with sasquatch. And the other one that
you mentioned was the muscular movement in the legs that
you can see through the hair when you look at
the footage that's been zoomed up.

Speaker 6 (02:35:39):
You know, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And as far as and
I think those are great points because as far as
the Brusko, if you were back in nineteen sixty seven,
you don't have any way to create a costume of
this level. Let's be real, it's going to be easier
to create a mail that has the flatter chest than
try to have the breast because you can always not

(02:36:03):
show it from the waist down, so that you're not
going to see the male genitals. But if you're going
to show the face, you're going to see the chest.
They would have picked a mail that would have been
a much easier costume to make. So that's the first thing, okay,
And like you said about the neck, try to remember

(02:36:24):
in nineteen sixty seven, other than Elbert and Roosevelt, nobody
had seen these things. There was no mention that they
have no neck. So how did Roger Patterson and Bob
Gimlin know that they had no neck? That it sits down,

(02:36:46):
there's no visible neck. How would they know that? How
would they know about the conial shaped head. The other
thing is Patty's face because of the way the hair
was and it was around here, it was ball. That
is not your typical face on a sasquatch, okay, And

(02:37:08):
that is not what you typically see on a sasquatch.
They are all uniquely different. But that is not a
normal hair pattern on a sasquatch. Usually they've got hair
all over their face, or it's more like the chimpanzee
where it's all skin around and the hair is coming
down her face where it looks like a little bit
of the beard and it goes over the note and
then the eyes are open like that. That is not

(02:37:30):
your typical on a sasquatch. If you look at any
of the videos of the real sasquatch, and I've got
multiple pictures of them, you don't see a hair type
like that. I have one picture of one like that
that was photographed on my property and he was probably
about ten feet from me. He was in a bush,
hit his head cock like this and you can see
his hut, and he had the mask on the hair.

(02:37:50):
Not a mask, that's a poor way to put it.
But the hair structure I call it a mask because
it's open around the eyes like that. That is not
a typical hair pattern is more unique. There is not
as many of them that have that. How would Roger
and Bob know of that? How would they know that
the arms are longer on a sasquatch than they are
on a human man, all of these body things. How

(02:38:14):
would they know that the bottoms of the feet are
generally a lighter color due to the dirt and challouses
than the rest of the foot. And if you look
at the hands, a sasquatch hand is very unique. Okay,
the hair comes down to the wrist. There's a little
bit of light here on the back of the hand,
but not a ton of it. There is nowhere on

(02:38:35):
there where you see a break where a costume would
go down to the arm and then onto the hand.
It is not typically as on a sasquatch, and this
film shows it correctly. All of those things could not
be duplicated because at that time there was not enough
people that had seen these creatures to be able to

(02:38:58):
know it. And yet there it is. And I was
not fortunate enough to meet Roger Patterson. I have heard,
you know, good things about him. I could never make
an assumption on his character. I only met Bob one time,
and I was blown away at the honesty and integrity
in his voice when he talked to me concerning this.

(02:39:22):
And I've seen him speak place you know, speak places.
I wasn't there, but I've seen the films of it,
that type of thing. I know people that know him,
and I do not believe in my personal opinion for
one second that he's lied about this. Do I think
that he may have kept certain details to himself, not

(02:39:43):
about it being real anything like that. I think yeah,
because I think the public's cruel and back in nineteen
sixty seven, I do believe that if he said too much,
it would have been very costly for his family. I
believe that now has he told me anything like that. No,
that is my own opinion based on just intuitiveness. But
I do not feel at all that he has made

(02:40:06):
any of this up or that this is a costume.
I think there's too many features that are too accurate.
There's muscle movement, there's the breast, there's the no neck.
All of these things. To me, I would absolutely not
that it matters, but I would put my stamp on
it to be real.

Speaker 1 (02:40:24):
I believe it's real too. And I, however, I do
reserve the right that my judgment may change depending on
what we see with the new footage. Okay, I want
to be able to see it. I want to be
able to take a look and to and to actually

(02:40:47):
view for myself what is going on, because I think
that there is a lot of questions that have to
be answered. You know. What I don't understand is why,
you know, much like you, Robin, why why would the
family sit on this hoax for that entire time. We're

(02:41:07):
coming up sixty years on it next year.

Speaker 6 (02:41:10):
Okay, Well, you know, I know that at one point
in time I had heard, not talked to, the family,
had heard rumors that all of a sudden they came
forward and said that it was a family member that
did this and everything. And like I said in the beginning,
and this is my opinion, if I were them, and
I was back in the late sixties, even the early seventies,

(02:41:31):
where this really wasn't a popular taubit or if when
you talked about it, you were shamed, you were disgraced,
you were considered crazy. If you don't think for two seconds,
I would go out there and tell everybody that was
made up in a fraud to get everybody off my back.
I do it in heartbeat. I would if I were them,
me being me. When I first came out about my experiences,

(02:41:55):
I was everybody said whatever they wanted to say. It
didn't phaze me. You know, I work with the Sasquatch.
I work for them and other cryptids.

Speaker 1 (02:42:04):
Why they pay you what do they pay you kindness.

Speaker 6 (02:42:08):
They've saved my life six times, a friendship that's gone
through my entire life.

Speaker 1 (02:42:14):
But the over the overall issue that people are having,
and I want to get to this too, because I
think this is an important part of the conversation, is
now we're going to see a bunch of skeptical people
who are going to say I told you so, and

(02:42:34):
now that your number one alleged piece of evidence has
been proven a hoax. Okay, there is no bigfoot. You
guys have been seeing things. You're on drugs, You're you're
drinking too much moonshine in the forest of the Appalasia.
You know, we're going to hear every you know, snide

(02:42:54):
comment fired at people who have had the ultimate experience
or believe it. So my question to you is how
what do we do with that, with that that type
of energy now that is affecting this system.

Speaker 6 (02:43:12):
Well, first off, the one that I talk to physically today,
not telepathically, physically, verbally, I'll make sure and let him
know that he doesn't exist. But you know, people that
whether it's this photo or another one, and not all
photos are legit. I do believe the ones in Patterson

(02:43:32):
Gimlin are. But I mean, I've seen other photos that
I can honestly say, there's no way. I don't care
what anybody says that's not real. But the people that
can accept that certain things can be real, everybody to
begin with, is entitled to their opinion across the board.
I respect that for them. But a lot of the

(02:43:54):
reason is a third dimensional mind cannot accept the reality
of some of these situations. And if you're a lower
frequency doesn't mean you have to be a bad person,
just a lower frequency. That third dimensional brain is not
going to allow you to believe it. So what I did,
as you know, I did the conference in Siberia and
I spoke about the sasquatch and all those things. I

(02:44:16):
came home, I got teased, I got ridiculed. There were
death threats.

Speaker 3 (02:44:19):
You know.

Speaker 6 (02:44:20):
People wanted to kidnap me, okay, and put me in
a cage and let the sasquatch get all the garbage.
And Animal Planet contacted me and wanted a statement. I'm
going to tell you exactly what I said to them,
and this is what I would definitely say to these people. Now,
you don't have to believe me, because when I put
my head on my pillow at night. God knows, I've

(02:44:42):
never lied about one single thing. And while you're sitting
there condemning me, trashing me, disbelieving me, I'm going to
be out in my backyard plane with the Sasquatch. Okay,
so I'm still ahead of the game. I'm fine with it.
Don't believe it, and when it the Patty film, all
the naysayers. I think personally everybody should question what they

(02:45:05):
see because there is a lot of hoaxers out there.
So I do believe that people shouldn't just drink the
kool aid, as they say, question things, ask questions, but
be respectful because the people that have had these experience
deserve at least that if they're being respectful to you,
you should be respectful to them. However, this is not

(02:45:26):
a hoax. I would love to be able to tell
everybody it's a big fat hoax. I know too much
about it. I've talked to the Sasquatch about it. It's
not a hoax. But if people don't want to believe it, okay,
don't believe it, go to a different channel, watch a
different film. Don't be disrespectful, don't pee all over somebody's

(02:45:48):
experience because they've had the experience of a lifetime that
you would only dream of. And a lot of it
comes down to jealousy, It comes down to ego. It
wasn't their experience, so it wasn't legit. I had a
very famous researcher who I'm not going to name, come
to me, get in my face and tell me, because

(02:46:10):
they were not allowed to my property to interact with
my sasquatch, that I was a fake and I was
a fraud. I looked at this person and I told them,
when hell freeze is over, would I allow someone with
your frequency to come near my Guys, you can tell
the whole world I'm a fake because I don't care
because when I go home, I'm going to be out

(02:46:32):
in the woods with them. I'm still going to be
interacting with them, and so I am all good. The
only one I have to answer to is God, and
God knows very well. I've never lied about it, so
I'm very comfortable with it. So it's okay for people
to disbelieve. We don't have to believe everything, but as
a human being, morally, we need to be considerate. We

(02:46:56):
need to be compassionate if you don't like what you're seeing,
scroll by, don't watch the movie, you know, say to yourself, okayself,
I don't buy into this. I do that with a
lot of people. But you don't have to be unkind.
Just because it's not your experience doesn't mean it's not legit.
Sasquatch chooses who they interact with. Patty did not make

(02:47:19):
that choice that day. She was in the wrong place
at the wrong time for her. For Bob and Roger,
she was in the right place for them, and there
were lives lost because of it afterwards. Now, Bob has
never spoke about that. It says in his that he
doesn't know anything about that, and maybe doesn't. I wasn't there.

(02:47:42):
I don't think Bob's a liar. It could have happened
after they left. I don't know. I just know what happened.
MK is not wrong in that because the Sasquatch confirmed it.
But I do not believe that Bob Gimblin has lied
about anything. And I still I will go till the
day I die and tell anybody that will listen this
film is legit. I don't care what they show On

(02:48:04):
the other one.

Speaker 1 (02:48:07):
What about the fact that it was Patterson's granddaughter who
gave the film up.

Speaker 6 (02:48:15):
I would think that that, and again this is my assumption.
I don't know the people. I would think if I
were them, that film has probably haunted them from the
time Roger got it. Their family had to have been ridiculed, ostracized,
treated like dirt, I do think. And I did see
a clip of a film years and years ago of

(02:48:35):
someone trying on a suit and the guy was standing
there and saying.

Speaker 3 (02:48:39):
Oh, yeah, it was me.

Speaker 6 (02:48:40):
I did it. I took these wood footprints that I
made footprints all over the valley and I did this.

Speaker 1 (02:48:45):
You know what.

Speaker 6 (02:48:45):
I absolutely believe that he did do those things. But
that wasn't the Patterson footage that was shot that day.
I think that was them trying to dissuade from the
fact that this family had to be treated so poorly.
We are in two thousand, twenty six, and we treat
each other like total dirt. On anybody that has a
solid experience or has a solid photo. Can you imagine

(02:49:09):
the treatment, the ridicule, the harassment that they must have
had back in twenty or nineteen sixty seven. My god,
I didn't get footage like that. I just had pictures
of them, and I came home from Russia and I
had death threats and people wanted to put me into
a cage, so the Sasquatch would come in to get

(02:49:30):
me and they would shoot one. And that was in
the two thousands. I can't even begin to imagine the
hell that Bob and Roger would have had to go
through when this film was done. So do I believe
that there's footage of that?

Speaker 1 (02:49:44):
Yeah, I mean you look at the aspect of it all.
Robin where where? And you'd talk to people who've known
them for years, mainly Bob Gimlin because he's still alive.
I mean, they were getting death threats over this, like
phone calls saying we're going to take you out, We're

(02:50:05):
going to take your family out. You don't deserve to
live by bringing this stupid story together, you know what
I'm saying. I mean, they received that, and that's not
just it, but I mean they couldn't go for dinner,
they couldn't go anywhere without invoking some sort of violence
or verbal assault on them exactly.

Speaker 6 (02:50:27):
So is it out of the question that a friend,
a family member, or somebody would not come forward on
their behalf and say okay, we made it up. It
was me. It would make the controversy go away, and
then the worst case scenario would be they were hated
for being liars. It's not out of the question that
somebody would do that because the harassment and the death

(02:50:51):
threats on their family, and let's not forget it can
affect their employment as well. Okay, look at doctor melbour Ketchum.
She did the DNA study in the two thousands. It
ruined her career because all of the hate even though
she didn't do anything wrong. And she's the first one
that came out with the truth about him. You know,

(02:51:14):
we know what it can do.

Speaker 1 (02:51:16):
Robin, we're going to start to wind this up. Let
everybody know where they can find you, my dear.

Speaker 6 (02:51:21):
Sure. If you want services of any kind to having
to do with the pairanormal, you can reach me at
www dot paranormal dash Empowerment dot com. If you want
to ask me just a question or talk to me.
I'm on Facebook under Robin haynes h a y nes
no middle initial. If you're not on Facebook but you
just have a single question for me, just go through

(02:51:43):
my website and just ask me your question. It won't
be a big deal.

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