Getting Personal with Sasquatch - Robert Maxwell Tells His Encounters - Spaced Out Radio

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We're heading to northern Ontario where researcher experiencer Robert Maxwell
is going to talk about the legend of Sasquatch. Yeah,

(02:49):
it's been a Sasquatch week here so far. We are
going to continue that tonight. Then in our number three,
swamp Dweller will join us with another creepy story. We'll
follow that up with Terry at his gorgeous mustache coming
on in for the weird news of the week, and
of course not so weird, we're going to talk about
the launch of Artemis two on their trek to the Moon,

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wondering if they'll see some aliens. Let's hope so. Robert
Maxwell is a Canadian photographer, videographer, and homesteader based in
Canada who took a wife whose life took a dramatic
turn after a chilling encounter in the wilderness. Through his
YouTube channel, Cabin in the Woods, Robert shares first hand

(03:32):
experiences and evidence that he believes point into the existence
of sasquatch. His story includes witnessing a massive, shadowy figure
in the forest, discovering unusual signs that suggest something unknown
is living just beyond the tree line. Oh, I hate
that feeling, I do, but it's so exciting. Robert's experiences
don't stop at a single sighting. In twenty twenty five

(03:55):
podcast appearance, he recounted a terrifying incident during a family
retreat where hebelieves a creature threw rocks at his daughter,
and encounter that enforced and reinforced his belief that these
beings are intelligent, aware, and possibly coexisting with humans in
remote regions. Let's bring them on in. Robert Maxwell, Welcome
to spaced Out Radio for the first time. How are you.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
I'm very well, Dave, thank you. I'm glad to be here.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Now. I just got to clarify something in my own mind.
Are you in Ontario or are you in British Columbia.
You're an Ontario.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
I'm in Ontario, Northern Ontario.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Oh, beautiful country there, beautiful country, no people, all trees,
all lakes, and the fishing is.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
Fantastic, exactly all the things I love in life.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Man. You know, when we individually get on this, this
lust for Bigfoot. And I'm not saying a sexual lust.
I'm saying a lust in trying to figure out what
this is. How do you have a conversation that's normal
with people now after and see what you've seen.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
Well, it's difficult, that's for sure. I know that you
having experienced plenty of weird things yourself. It puts you
in a different category than the average person, and you
have to be prepared for the weird looks I find.
But my main strategy, quite honestly, is to not bring
it up too often with people I know. Sometimes they

(05:24):
find out about me, they come across my YouTube channel
and they bring it up, and then I just tell
them plain what happened and why I ended up here.
But doesn't stop the weird looks. So I think you
just kind of have to develop a thick skin and
realize that ultimately you follow the truth down this rabbit
hole far enough and it's going to make most average

(05:45):
people uncomfortable. Personally, I'm okay with that, but it does
take some getting.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Used to tell me about it. I don't know how
to have a normal conversation anymore. That's the problem that
I have is, you know, most of the people that
I to on a daily basis, they have no clue
that I'm into this. You know, my core people do
you know? But even like when I have a conversation
with my dad or even my daughters, they're not saying, hey,

(06:12):
did he go look for sasquatch this weekend? It's never
like that. You know, I'm struggling. And you know, the
funny part about it is, as a former sports journalist
in Vancouver, where I knew every player in the NHL.
I knew most baseball players, most football players, basketball as well.
I could have a conversation about sports anytime, all the time.

(06:34):
Now I don't even know who the hell the players
are anymore except for the big names. So I'm like
screwed in conversation pieces now. So there's a four warning.
If you see me out in public and you want
to talk, let's just talk sasquatch them or UFOs. It's
much easier that way, to just get right to the point. Yeah,

(06:55):
why not absolutely cut through the small talk coke versus
past politics or whatever. Let's just get to bigfoot in UFOs.
It's much easier that way, my friend. How long have
you been doing this?

Speaker 5 (07:10):
Well, not very long, all things considered. I had my
first encounter, the one that set me down this rabbit
hole of truth seeking, in September twenty twenty four, and
I've been following the road of obsession ever since.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Not all that long.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
But I don't plan to pull up or slow down
anytime soon.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
I don't think people fully understand the magnitude of I'm
going to use an overused term here, even though I
don't think it's correct PTSD after having an encounter, they
don't understand the immediate how can we say injection of

(07:59):
one want and desire to have that happen again.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
I agree, it's something you can't really understand until you've
experienced it, until you've internalized it.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
That bizarre mix of.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
A fear that's deeper in its breadth than any natural fear,
at least for me, and yet this insatiable curiosity. I've
got to fully understand the truth of what I saw.
That's been it for me. And I know everyone reacts
to encounters differently. Some people just swear off ever going into.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
The woods again.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Other people turn into nutcase researchers like me, or maybe
somewhere in between. But bottom line is it changes you.
And I think everyone who's had an experience, not just
with sasquatch, but any of these fringe topics that your.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Average person says shouldn't exist, they're going to come out
of it different. What changed in you?

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Well, for one thing, my career, I certainly wasn't planning
to become a sasquatch researcher or content creator. I had
a YouTube channel for a couple of years, prior to
my experience. I'm a filmmaker by trade, but after I
saw what I saw, I knew that I wasn't going

(09:30):
to be able to let it go. And my therapist
at the time suggested I start that quest by making
a video, just a simple sitting in a lawn chair
talking kind of video where I explained what I saw
and put it on my YouTube channel, a sort of
coping mechanism to work through it, I suppose.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
And I got to cut you off that I got
to cut you off right there, because you just brought
up something very interesting. How do you approach a therapist
say that you saw sasquatch, you had an encounter with sasquatch.
I need to know this.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
Yeah, well, I spoke with her about a I think
it was less than a week after the encounter itself.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
We had come home.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
The event happened on the West Coast of Canada, Vancouver Island,
or my wife and daughter and I were vacationing for
the first time to the West Coast and I was
having these online therapy sessions, you know, once a week,
just helped my mind think in healthier ways and whatnot.

(10:36):
And this lady, she was not the dismissive type. I
guess a good therapist shouldn't be dismissive to anything you share,
but unfortunately some are.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
This one wasn't.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
She when I opened up about what I had seen,
didn't laugh at me, didn't mock. She seemed to believe me. Actually,
very open mind, an kind lady who had had some
weird experiences of her own, not sasquatch, but some potentially
paranormal type of things, as it turns out, which she

(11:10):
ended up sharing in response to my sharing of my story.
So bottom line, she believed me and she knew I
think in that session we had shortly after the event
that I needed to talk about it and I needed
to try to understand it. And here we are a
year and a half later, and I'm not sure I
do understand it any better, but I'm trying.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
I want to get into your experiences in the next
half hour, because not many people within their first year
and a half of looking for sasquatch have two encounters. Agreed, Okay,
you were one of the lucky ones. And I think
you know that. You know, I've seen three of them

(11:57):
in my life, a pair in twenty three team that
were maybe you know maybe one hundred feet apart. And
then I saw the big guy in twenty twenty two
on Canadian Thanksgiving weekend, and I was with my boy
and my two hunting buddies, you know, even though we
weren't hunting, but you know, we were just out there

(12:18):
looking for sasquatch when a big guy came. When you
look at yourself, do you consider yourself lucky that you've
seen these or do you consider yourself being pulled into
some sort of quagmire regarding a mythical creature that is

(12:39):
not supposed to exist and now you've been put on
this on this path trying to figure it out. I
think it's a bit of both.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
Honestly, I do consider myself lucky and blessed to have
had two sightings, even though neither of them were very
lengthy or particularly clear sightings, but sightings nonetheless sightings that
I consider definite. So on the one hand, given that
I've decided to dedicate my life to trying to understand

(13:10):
the truth of these beings in its entirety, I do
consider that excellent luck. On the other hand, logically, I
have to look at the remarkably slim odds of having
two such encounters in such a short time, and I've

(13:32):
had people tell me that this sort of thing starts
to follow you. I don't really like to make claims
like that without some logical basis.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
I try to be logical.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
In all my research, all the content I put on
my YouTube channel as much as possible. But I do
think there may be an element of truth to that
that somehow, and I'm not saying I'm particularly special or
have been chosen by a sasquatch or anything like that.
I don't know what to make of it, really, but
I do think that there is a correlation between my

(14:09):
intense focus on the truth of all this and the
fact that I've had two sightings in a relatively short time,
when others will go their whole life and not have one.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
There's a lot of people who don't have one. Look
at the late doctor John bindert Engel. He looked for
this thing for seventy years, never found it, never found
it whatsoever.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
I mean, he did claim to have that one sighting
in two thousand and seven in Kentucky, but it was
a very brief and fleeting sighting.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
I want to ask you, as a filmmaker something that
you do you're a photographer, your filmmaker as well, outside
of being into sasquatch when you had those encounters, because
the big argument is, you have a camera on your phone,
Why are you not filming? Why didn't you get picture?
Why didn't you you record what you saw? You know,

(15:04):
that's the big argument that everybody comes up with. The
skeptics come up with Yours were so fleeting. Mine were
pretty fleeting. You don't have time to even think about
it when your eyes are sitting there staring and looking
and thinking, what the hell am I looking at? Is
this really real? This moment tell us about that?

Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yes, Well, I should start by saying that I did
get a brief clip of the creature in my first encounter.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Oh, it's not a great clip.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
It's not particularly close, It's not particularly clear because of
the density of the forest and foliage. The second sighting
was even more fleeting, and the creature was moving incredibly quickly,
and I stupidly tried to get a telephoto lens screwed
onto my phone instead of just filming with the built

(15:56):
in lens, and I have regretted that ever since. So
I got nothing that time except for a little bit
of blurry footage through this ill attached lens. But I
think I think these creatures recognize cameras. And I also
think that, as you said, the fear response as beyond

(16:17):
just normal fear. You can't really describe it to someone
who hasn't experienced it.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
I don't want to.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
Make excuses for the shortage of clear video of these beings,
but my own experiences and the experiences of hundreds of
others I've spoken to read about, there's something going on
here that makes it harder to get good visuals of
these beings than it would be to photograph or film

(16:45):
a bear or a coyote or a woodpecker. It's not
the same thing. And exactly what the differences are I'm
still trying to figure out, to be honest, but there
are differences of that.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
I'm certain I can see where you would be baffled
by that. You know, it is one of the difficult
things that we do, I mean, trying to figure out
why this creature, if people do take pictures, are always
blurry or pixelated, you know, And I'm not saying the
type of pixelation that we see all the time when

(17:20):
people zoom right in and into a plant and say,
see that high ball there, see that knows you know,
not like that. But you're right. A lot of the
photos that we see are blurry, a lot of them
are pixelated, a lot of them we just we just
miss them. It's like they vanish into thin air. This
creature is either the greatest hide and Seek champion ever

(17:45):
displayed on this planet or and a lot of people
don't like hearing this. It may have some sort of
unique ability where it can cloak, or it disappear or
vanish or whatever it may be. We just I just
don't know, and that is what thrills me about it.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
How about you, oh, one hundred percent, I would be
lying if I said I didn't find the paranormal aspect
particularly intriguing. I think we all end up heading in
that direction as researchers eventually, unless we're far too narrow
minded and dogmatic frankly in our thinking process. Like many

(18:29):
of us in this space, I started off thinking that
what I'd seen on Vancouver Island in September twenty twenty
four was a large bipedal undiscovered ape, and I still
think there are solid arguments to be made why it's
theoretically possible and even probable that a creature like that

(18:51):
with far above average intelligence compared to non grade apes
could be elusive enough small enough in population, given the
two point one billion acres of forest in North America alone,
to evade official detection. But I don't think that's what's happening.
I do think I have been reluctantly pushed towards the

(19:16):
conclusion that there is more going on here than a
simple undiscovered ape than a gorilla that walks on two legs.
Based on my own experiences and the experiences of others,
I think it's pretty undeniable. Now you start talking that way,
and people who followed you initially because they considered you

(19:40):
a logical person, well they might just walk the other way.
But is it logical to ignore vast segments of the
body of eyewitness accounts simply because they don't fit in
our prequency category of simple wildlife.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I don't think so. I think part of the problem
that we have is mainstream logic. I agreed. I think
mainstream logic blocks a lot of these potential answers. And
I'm gonna be honest with you. With three and a
half minutes to go before we go to break. I'm

(20:24):
actually kind of glad, Robert. I'm glad that we have
this this logic because I don't know. I've watched the
paranormal scene, go to hell. I've watched the UFO scene,
now go to hell. I don't want the Bigfoot Encryptid
scene to go to hell. You know what I'm saying.
I like the fact that we are unique. I like

(20:46):
the fact that we're stupid enough to go into a
into a forest where we are nowhere close to being
the Apex predator and going to look for a creature
that outweighs us on average by probably two hundred and
fifty three hundred pounds, outsizes us by about on average
two to four feet, and literally could rip our arms

(21:10):
off and beat us to death with it. I want
that rush, man, I want that adrenaline. I want that
feeling of excitement that you know you're in the middle
of the sticks and you're looking around. You can't see anything,
but there's some sort of skunky smell around and it
just happens to be emanating everywhere. That's a cool freeing man.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
Yeah, couldn't have said it better. I want that as well.
I think most of us do. On some level who
consider ourselves investigators of this phenomenon. It's all about the truth,
but also that fascination behind the truth. I mean, two

(21:56):
plus two is four is truth. But I don't find nearly.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
As exciting as chasing sasquatch. We got two minutes to go.
One A question you on this? What does your wife think.

Speaker 6 (22:19):
She?

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Does she just roll her the phenomenon in general? Or
does she just roll her eyes at you? There he goes,
there's Robert going into the forest again? Or is she
an active, willing participant at all?

Speaker 5 (22:33):
Well, she knows what I saw was real. She knows
these beings are real. I think there are certainly times
when she has a potentially valid concern about my level
of obsession with this, as any good wife would, But
she knows that I'm in this for the long haul,

(22:53):
that I'm dedicated to discovering the truth, and she's been
a wonderful support to me throughout that process, happy for
me to go on expeditions and.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Potentially risk my life.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
She's probably not too happy about that part, but tolerant,
willing because she knows that I've got this in my blood,
and once you get it in your blood, it's hard
to get it out again, even when you've had multiple
terrifying sightings.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Okay, so do you go out alone or do you
have a partner or a team that you go out with.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
I don't have a set team. I had my initial
encounter alone. Of course, I wasn't going out specifically to
see Sasquatch.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
I was walking.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
Into the woods that day to figure out what the
weirdness was that I had been warned about in that area.
It wasn't specific at that point. My second encounter I
was with a team of people in British Columbia actually
where you are. And my upcoming expeditions, I have two

(24:06):
of them planned for the coming months. Those will also
be with a team of three or four other gentlemen.
In early May, I'll be going out with survivor man
Les Stroud, oh nice here in Ontario, and a few others.
And then in August I'll be going out with a
different game.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
So lots of happening. We're going to go to break
here on spaced out Radio when we return. What started
it off for Robert his amazing Bigfoot encounters? All right,

(24:55):
we are clear, Just remember our audience can hear's great
start by the way, great start.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
Thank you, it's fun. As I said, I'm very glad
to be here.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah, this is fun. How'd you get together with Les Stroud? Well,
funny story.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
I've always been a fan of Survivorman and more recently
his Survivorman Bigfoot series on his YouTube channel, and I
had thought in the back of my mind as my
own channel grew that collaborating with him at some point,
when my audience gets to a certain size that he
might consider worth his time, that would be a nice thing.

(25:35):
But lo and behold, he emailed me out of the
blue several months ago. Turns out he had been watching
my stuff and was a fan of my work and
wanted to head out into the field with me to
collaborate to produce content for both of our platforms together.
And he even asked me to be involved in his

(25:57):
upcoming Sasquatch documentary I believe the title is the Question
of Bigfoot, currently under production. He asked if he could
consult me on that as far as knowledge around Bigfoot
and also potentially be an interviewee in the film itself.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
So pretty exciting stuff for you.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
Just to say, I was a little starstruck, but good
also honored and excited to get to collaborate with a
gentleman like less.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Good for you. I'm proud of you for that. That's awesome. Well,
thank you. Yeah, pretty exciting. Yeah, man, Yeah, I want
to ask you about your Vancouver Island encounter, but I
gotta wait here. I have to wait. I'm holding off
on this because we're in the break and then the
radio audience can't hear it, so I have to wait

(26:46):
for that one. It kind of pisses me off because
I got a couple questions about that. I lived on
Vancouver Island for two years.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
Oh whereabouts on the island.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
I was in a Nanaimo, Parksville, Okay, But I did
a lot of traveling to port Alberni because I coached
hockey over there.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
Very nice. Yeah, it's a beautiful island. We really fell
in love with it, my wife and daughter and I.
In fact, we're going to be returning again for the
first time since my encounter, probably next fall, which will
be two years since my encounter. I find it's nicest
out there, not that I've been more than the once,

(27:32):
but from what I hear from friends who live out there,
it's nicest In the early fall, when it's not too
hot and humid, when you can still enjoy the beach.
Kind of the best of both worlds.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, I I love visiting the island. I hated every
day I lived there. Really, that's why I felt trapped
like that ferry boat. That ferry boat was you know
when when you when you're on an island. It uh,

(28:10):
I just felt really trapped. So I just I didn't
enjoy it. And trust me, the Vancouver Island. If you've
never been to Vancouver Island, it is literally one of
nature's masterpieces. It really is. It doesn't matter whether you're
on you're on the inner side of the island where

(28:32):
I lived, or on the outer side of the island
that next stop Japan. Right, it is gorgeous there from
top to bottom. But I just I never was comfortable
living there.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
Well, to each their own, I can understand why after
a while it might feel that way. The island I
live on, Manitoulin. We connect to the mainland by a
rotating bridge, so that probably alleviates that potential anxiety for me.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Thankfully, we have the ferret in our chat room who
lives on the island as well, so all right, he'll
Billy Herbs says Manitoulin Island is amazing. We got about
one minute here. Thank you tonight to t Bone Times too,

(29:26):
Forest Louis and Kitty Caddywack for the super chats tonight.
It's a great way to support what we do on
this show on a nightly basis. Oh, you're in Comock's Valley, Ferret.
I will be there May twenty second through twenty fourth
for the there's a Bigfoot conference happening in Como's Valley.
I will be there speaking. It's a three day event.

(29:49):
I'll be there speaking. I'm going to put more information
up about that very very soon. So yeah, I got
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Here we go.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
We are into the second half hour of Spaced Out Radio.
It's Bigfoot all night long. My name is Dave Scott.
We're so glad to have you here, as we have
Robert Maxwell standing in the Batter's Box waiting to talk
about his incredible stories of Sasquatch. But first we want
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(31:20):
Robert Maxwell, good to have you back with my friend
and I want to know two encounters in the last
year and a half. This has created a major interest
for you in dedicating your life now to learning about Sasquatch.
You have a very successful YouTube channel called Cabin in
the Woods and yes, I personally am a subscriber on

(31:43):
your channel. Love your content. Okay, the way you break
down these videos, so cheers to you for that. But
let's get into it. Tell us how this began.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
So I was not the sort of person who was
a hardcore bigfoot skeptic. I know a lot of encounters
start that way. Oh I didn't believe in Bigfoot, and
then I saw one.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
That wasn't me.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
I had kind of a healthy open mindedness and even
interest in Bigfoot type mysteries in general, UFO's, the paranormal,
that sort of thing. I was generally interested, not fervently obsessed,
but generally interested and open to those sorts of things.

(32:31):
But it certainly wasn't on my main life radar until
this trip to Vancouver Island in September twenty twenty four.
My wife and daughter and I wanted to see the
West Coast. We had some friends who had visited Vancouver
Island recommended it to us, so my wife booked us

(32:51):
a cottage an airbnb on the southern tip of the island,
a village called Shirley, which you may know, Dave, since
you lived there. It's not a big place, lots of forest,
one main road going through, and for the most part
it was a normal vacation until near the end my
wife and daughter and I were on a remote beach there.

(33:13):
There were a lot of beaches in that area. That's
one reason we chose this particular village. There were at
least half a dozen nice beaches of different character within
a short drive of our cottage so near the end,
I think three or four days from the end of
our ten day vacation, we were on this beach and

(33:37):
it just so happened we were the only people there.
It was our second or third visit to this beach.
It had become one of our favorites. It wasn't a
manicured sand beach. It was a typical West Coast, rugged, wild,
unkempt sort of beach, cobblestone shore and great big driftwood

(33:57):
logs and a high cliff topped with sloping forest and foliage.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
At our backs.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
And we were just walking along enjoying the ocean. My
daughter and I decided to climb up this one particular
driftwood log, kind of a dried up cedar root ball,
with a piece of a log that had washed up
who knows how long ago, And we were doing that

(34:25):
when all of a sudden, the silence was shattered by
a pebble striking this log with incredible velocity, about twelve
inches from my daughter's head give or take. She was
seven at the time, and we both noticed it. And
this pebble made this echoing crack as it struck this

(34:48):
wood and rolled down and I picked it up. It
was about an inch in diameter, almost perfectly round, white
quartz pebble, and I instantly knew it had been thrown
because number one, it didn't fall straight down, It came
at us from an angle. And number two, gravity wouldn't

(35:09):
have been able to produce that kind of velocity even
if it had fallen straight down. But because of where
it hit and how hard it hit, I could tell
instantly it had been thrown, and thrown hard, almost like
it had been shot out of a sling shot or something.
I traced where I thought it had come from, and
best I could tell, it was thrown from this thirty

(35:32):
or forty foot cliff behind us, maybe fifty feet from
the water's edge, just above our heads, continuing along this beach,
and again this cliff was covered in this thick foliage,
but the surface of it prior to the thick foliage
was very steep and slick with the spray of the surf,

(35:58):
So I didn't see any way that a person could
have physically.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Gotten up there.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
They would have basically had to be spider man, it
seemed to me. And yet it was pretty clear to
me that that's where this rock had come from somehow
up on top of this cliff, in this impossible thick foliage. So,
being a protective father and assuming initially that it had
been people, probably drunken teenagers or something, I figured I

(36:28):
started whipping stones up there myself to try to teach
them a lesson, or at least flush them out so
I could give them a good tonguelushing whoever it was.
But nothing happened. I threw maybe five or six stones
up there in this shotgun pattern, and no sounds, no movement,
no yelling and pain. But the whole thing left me

(36:48):
with a weird feeling. Couldn't understand it, And the longer
I thought about it, the more unsettled I got. Just
how hard this stone hit. That's the thing that got me, like,
really really hard and dangerously close to my child. So
we didn't stick around on this beach much longer. After that,

(37:10):
we drove back to our cottage and I tried to
put it out of my mind, but the stone throw
incident got me thinking back to a conversation I'd had
with the gentleman who rented our cottage to us on
the second day. This was near the end of our vacation.
This rock was thrown. But much earlier in the trip,

(37:32):
I had run into the gentleman who was the cottage
owner where we were staying. He and his wife lived
on the same property just across the yard, basically thick
forest on basically all sides, and I noticed he was
wearing a bigfoot T shirt during this initial conversation. So

(37:52):
struck up a conversation because again I kind of had
a casual interest in that sort of thing, and he
got kind of uncomfortable when I asked him if he'd
seen anything, or had any sightings been told about in
his area. He didn't seem to want to talk about it,

(38:13):
you know, looking down and shifting from one foot to
the other, and so I didn't press him too much,
but he did share that he'd had some of his animals.
This gentleman kept chickens and goats. Some of them had
disappeared under weird conditions, like one time he'd caught a
bear come in from the forest, torn down the five

(38:36):
foot fence, and taken some chickens. Another time, a mountain
lion had jumped over the fence and was in the
process of dragging one of his poor miniature goats back
over the fence into the woods. Both times those invasions
left a mass of mess, you know, blood and feathers
and damaged fences. But he also told me that there

(38:57):
had been one or two other times where he'd gotten
up in the morning, gone out to feed the animals
and there was just one less animal, you know, one
fewer goat or chicken, and no signs of disturbance that time.
Which bears or mountain lions. He figured, you know, they
always leave plenty of signs. So he did tell me

(39:19):
that much, but he didn't really want to say much more,
except that he kind of gave me this warning. He said,
if you go walking in those woods there across the road,
keep your wits about you. And then you know, the
conversation kind of trailed off, and I didn't think much
of it at the time.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
This was on like day two of the trip, right.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
I just figured he meant bears and mountain lions, which,
of course there's plenty of both on Vancouver Island, as
you know, David, yes question. So yeah, I'll keep my
wits about me. I'm not gonna do anything stupid. I've
grown up in the woods. I know what's out there.
It turns out I would break my promise to myself
to not do anything stupid. So fast forward maybe a

(40:02):
week later, and this stone throwing incident happened at this
unkempt wild sort of beach, just a quarter mile or
so up the road from this cottage and in the
same patch of woods that the gentleman warned me about.
And if you go walking in there, keep your wits
about you'll be careful.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
So the stone throw happened, and.

Speaker 5 (40:25):
That got me thinking back to his warning, and my
curiosity just flared right up. I've always been a naturally
curious person, never really been able to turn that off,
and maybe that's a bad thing, but I wasn't able
to turn it off in this instance. So the combination

(40:46):
of that weird conversation and the rock throw brought me
to the decision that I was going to take a
walk in those woods and see what the heck this
guy was talking about. Maybe I'd see a bear, and
then I knew what to do if I.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Saw a black bear.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
Figured I would be okay if I saw a mountain lion,
although in hindsight that was pretty stupid. Didn't have a
weapon with me or anything, so I did.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
I took a walk in the woods.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
The only issue was by the time I came to
that decision it was already night, which made it an
even dumber decision. But I did it anyway. Curiosity was
just running too strong. Only had my phone flashlight, which
I really in hindsight, I really should have done things differently.
But I took a walk across this road into these

(41:37):
thick woods. And you know how the woods are on
Vancouver Island, very thick and tangled, old growth trees, lots
of old man's beard like and hanging from the branches.
And I wasn't very far into the woods when the
first of what I call the steps to my encounter

(41:59):
took place. And I didn't see anything at first. It
was a sound. Actually, I was maybe one hundred yards
maybe less into the bush. It was very slow going,
stepping over roots and rocks, trying not to trip in
the dark, and turning around every so often try to

(42:19):
keep the twinkling lights from our cottage visible, although that
was getting harder and harder with the foliage. And I
had just stopped to kind of get my bearings when
I heard this noise. As a guess, maybe it was

(42:40):
about fifty yards ahead of me, although it's hard to
tell with just a noise in the dark.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Right, and it was like the sound of a.

Speaker 5 (42:51):
Deep sort of throat clearing noise, like a very large
man was clearing his throat. That's kind of how it
struck me at the time. Kind of sounds bear like
in the recording I got. I was actually filming on
my phone at the time because I thought I might
make a just a sort of vlog video of our

(43:12):
entire trip, including this walk into the woods. I wasn't
expecting anything to happen. I was just filming myself walking
and talking basically as I had been for the entire trip.
But I heard this noise and immediately just froze and
what was that? And my first thought was bear, quite honestly,

(43:32):
like it sounded like a large man clearing his throat.
But what large man is going to be clearing his
throat at ten o'clock at night in the middle of
the woods. So I figure it's got to be a bear.
Time to leave. But before I could, I think get
my bearings and make sure I wasn't going to trip
on a root and fall flat on my face. Just
a few seconds after that grunt or growl or you

(43:55):
know whatever it was. I heard a second noise and
it sounded like it came from the same spot. The
second noise wasn't from a creature. It was a woody
type of noise, like the fibers in a tree being
twisted or creaking or something. Reminded me a lot of

(44:16):
some of the sounds I heard growing up on felling
trees and splitting firewood with my dad. Sometimes when a
tree would fall, it would land on a branch, and
after it initially fell, if the branch couldn't quite take
the weight, you'd hear it go like creaking as the
branch failed, basically, and this reminded me of that. It

(44:37):
was like creaking wood fibers, like a tree was being
broken or a branch was being twisted or something. So
I heard those two sounds coming from the woods ahead
of me, sounded like they were coming from the same area,
and I thought, probably best to get out of here.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Now.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
I didn't know, you know what, but it was I
wasn't thinking. If I had a thought, it was still
likely bear and bears can rear up and push on trees,
and I kind of had a half baked idea that's.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
What was going on.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
But heart was raising, hair was prickling up a little
bit on the back of my neck. So got out
of there as fast as I could. Wasn't very quick,
even though I felt like I was rushing, but you know,
hitting a lot of branches and bushes, and my legs
were all scratched up by the time I got out
of there.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Were you on a pass like were you on a
like a regular walking path or a deer trail or
were you just bushwhacking? Completely bushwhacking?

Speaker 5 (45:40):
There were no trails, no game trails or walking paths
of any kind in this patch of woods. I basically
just crossed the road from where our cottage was, this
small rural road, yes, and just walked straight into the forest,
something I've done, you know, thousands of times right Ontario.

(46:00):
I'm used to branches hitting me in the face, so
I didn't think much of it. I just wanted to
see why this guy gave me this cryptic warning about
these woods that had also produced the bizarre rock throw
earlier that day. But you know, those two sounds convinced
me that there was something bigger than me in that area,

(46:23):
So I rushed back into the cabin and calmed down
as best I could, drank some water.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
And pulled my wife.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
And I think she initially thought I was joking, but
then she saw my face was pale, and she was surprised,
I think because I after I told her, I called
my father back in Ontario and unloaded the whole thing
on him. And you know, I don't normally call up
my dad out of the blue like that, So I
think she noticed that and she's like, Okay, he's not

(46:53):
pulling my leg.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
But by the.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
Next day, the fear had receded and my curiosity had rekindled,
because now I had things stacking up and it was
just seeming more and more like something was going on there.
I still logically thought it was probably a bear that
I had heard the previous night, but I don't know.

(47:18):
There was something about that grunt noise that didn't sound
fully bear like to me. You know, we have black
bears here on our property in Ontario, and I've heard
most sounds they make at one time or another, and
this it was similar, kind of, but it didn't sound
fully bare to me.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
So in the light of.

Speaker 5 (47:39):
Day, beautiful sunny day the next day, I decided to
go back and see if I could see anything. I
wanted to try to maybe find the spot where these
two sounds had emanated, and maybe i'd see bear claw
marks on a tree. That's kind of what I figured,
and rule out that it was any thing more mysterious,

(48:01):
because I did kind of have a notion that could
it have been bigfoot?

Speaker 1 (48:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
I thought probably not, but it was weird to say
the least. So about two o'clock the next afternoon, I
took another walk, followed the same path I had the
previous night. It was easier going, of course, because it
was lighter, and I didn't see anything at first.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Walk a little further.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
And then I did see something, and it wasn't a creature,
at least not right away. It was a fallen tree,
and it was a fairly freshly fallen tree. I could
tell it was a coniferous tree, fresh green needles still
on it. About forty feet long, I'd say, And I thought,

(48:52):
that looks like it's about where that creaking wood noise
and the growl that came before happened last night. Would
it just be a coincidence that there's this one random
fallen tree freshly fallen down by the looks of it,
in roughly the spot where I'd heard that, and no

(49:14):
other fallen trees just thick upright, healthy living trees everywhere
else except for this one tree. So I decided I
was going to go take a closer look see if,
first of all, if it had been cut with a chainsaw,
because where I spotted it, I couldn't see the bottom.
I could just see like the bulk of the trunk
and the foliage. But obviously that would settle the mystery

(49:37):
pretty quick if I saw a man made cut at
the bottom of this thing, or I also knew from
living in the country it could be root rot or
insect damage, or a downburst of wind might have just
ripped up a healthy tree.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
That sort of.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
Thing happens, and I didn't want to jump to any conclusions.
But I didn't get the chance to get up close
to this tree and take a look because pretty much
as I took my first step towards it, and I
was still, I don't know, twenty yards away from the
tree at this point, I caught this flash of movement

(50:12):
further into the bush than the tree was and a
bit to the right, and I kind of saw it
out of my peripheral It was something shifting a little bit,
not a huge movement, but noticeable. Caught my attention, so
I jerked my head and looked in that direction. Beyond
this fallen tree and partially obscured by branches and foliage

(50:38):
and lichen and things, was this massive black shape.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
It was.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Every bit eight.

Speaker 5 (50:47):
Feet tall, as a guess, probably half that in width,
and it wasn't the right shape for a bear standing
on its hind legs. It was far too big to
be a black bear. I know there are reportedly a
few grizzlies on Vancouver Island. They're not supposed to be there,

(51:09):
but some of them are on the northern tip, and
some people say they've spread lower. But even a grizzly,
this thing, it just looked too wide and bulky to
be a grizzly bear. And whether it's a black bear
or a grizzly, which is what I was trying to
tell myself, it was. But when they stand up, they're
kind of pear shaped, like they have a great big

(51:30):
bottom and mid section, but they kind of get narrower
towards the shoulders. I mean, not skinny or narrow by
any means, but narrower as you go up on a bear.
This didn't do that. It was massive and bulky right
up to the top. And the weird thing about it
was it it didn't look like a recognizable life form,

(51:57):
if that makes sense. Like I was trying to pick
out features. I was probably sixty seventy maybe eighty yards
away from it, and I saw what looked like it
could have been ahead, and I thought I saw the
shoulders and the torso, but it was obscured enough that
it wasn't like super obvious. More than anything, it just

(52:21):
kind of looked like a big black bulk, and I
probably wouldn't have thought it was anything living if I
hadn't just seen it move. It sort of struck me
more as a big root ball. To the west of
our cabin here there's a patch of woods near a

(52:41):
lake where a bunch of cedars all in a row
old growth seedars. Because of the wet, spongy soil not
being stable enough for them, they've all tipped over a
whole row of them, and they pull a lot of
dirt and foliage with them. We call it rootball Road,
and I like to go there, and this thing that

(53:03):
I saw on Vancouver Island. It reminded me of one
of those root balls from this area near our house.
It it looked like a big, bulky patch of dark dirt,
but it had moved, and that was the problem. Scary times,
I'm staring at this thing, and I whip up my

(53:23):
phone after the initial shock wore off, although it never
really wore off, but I got a few seconds of
footage at eighteen or twenty seconds of footage or something,
and as I stood there trying to figure out what
I was looking at, this dread kind of cropped up

(53:44):
like I was startled. Initially had that similar response to
what I felt when I've looked at bears before as
I trundled along in our back field while I was.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Taking a walk.

Speaker 5 (53:58):
But as I stood there for longer and the seconds
ticked by, it, that feeling grew into something more profound,
very much than just a healthy respect for a passing bear.
And I'm not sure how to describe it any better
than that, other than I knew.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
You knew that you weren't the only one there at
that time. I'm going to get you to hold on
right there, Robert. We're going to finish your story when
we come back, and you're an other encounter that you've had.
I mean, this is just absolutely incredible. Robert Maxwell has
a popular YouTube channel called Cabin in the Woods over
one hundred and thirty seven thousand subscribers. I'm one of them.

(54:42):
His videos on Sasquatch are great. He takes deep dives people.
I like him, and he's a great communicator and a
fantastic storyteller. We'll have more right after.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
This his Face Down Radio with Hopes Dame Scott.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
All Right, buddy, we're gonna take a quick break here.
I'm gonna put you in the green room and I'll
be right back. Okay, I got about five minutes. This
is this is a great show. These are the encounter
stories that I love, absolutely loving this. All right, I

(59:50):
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setting the times for our speakers here very very soon.
So make sure if you're coming go check out a
Cariboucan dot com. It's gonna be pretty awesome. All right,
let's bring Robert back in there. You are, how you doing, buddy? Great?

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
Great for you so far? Oh yeah, this is awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
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you and where are we here? Let's see fat nuts.
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encounter with Sasquatch. He's telling us about here. He's got
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(01:02:38):
what his adventures lead to next. Robert, thank you so
much for being here. All right before the break, you
were talking about how fearful you were getting, that feeling
that you were being watched in the forest, and all
of a sudden that human instinct kicked in that maybe
it was time to head back.

Speaker 5 (01:02:56):
Yes, So basically after my sighting, after I caught this
flash of movement, realized it had been this massive, bulky
black shape that had done the moving, a shape too
big and wrongly proportioned for any animal I'd ever seen,
or a person for that matter, I decided it was

(01:03:18):
time to beat a hasty retreat. So I did, and
people have asked me time and time again. You say
you're a bigfoot researcher. Why did you run away? Well,
I wasn't a bigfoot researcher. Then that's the event that
led me to become one. And I still don't regret
running away, because again, I just had this very strong

(01:03:41):
sense that and it was more than just the fear
of a large predator. I'm not sure I can explain
it better than that, but it was the sense that
a will stronger than mine wants me to leave. So

(01:04:01):
I did, and again rushed into the cottage we were renting.
Told my wife breathlessly all about it, and again I
think she initially thought I was pulling her leg, but
then I showed her the footage and she actually noticed
some things. As we played it back over and over
again as I tried to calm down, she noticed some

(01:04:24):
details in it that I hadn't seen at the time
in person. Shortly prior, we zoomed in on the footage
and you could kind of see what looked like an
arm and a hand hanging down beside the main bulk
of this thing's body, and it almost looked like it
was scratching its thigh with its hand. Can't be sure

(01:04:45):
because you zoom in that far and it gets blurry.
But one thing was certain to me. I had seen
something massive, black and upright standing in those woods that
willed me to leave. So I just kind of tried

(01:05:06):
to sit with that for a while and figure out
and understand what it was. And you know, I almost
talked myself out of the movement I had seen. I
tried to tell myself it was a rootball. It looks
like those root balls near your house. That's what it was.

(01:05:26):
The movement that had caught my attention. I didn't get
that part on camera. I did get this this hand
thing moving on camera when you zoomed in, but like
I said, it was kind of blurry, and I was
trying to talk myself out of it. I was trying
to convince myself that hand movement was actually just a
leaf or a branch or something didn't really look like that.

(01:05:49):
But it was a hard thing to swallow, and I
wasn't initially ready for the conclusion that I ultimately landed on,
which is that it was Sasquatch. I made one more
trip into the woods before we left. After our vacation.

(01:06:12):
My dad actually encouraged me to take a look and
see if this creature had left any evidence behind. And
initially I'm thinking, there's no way I'm going back there,
but I think call it a blessing or a curse.
But my curiosity has always been stronger than fear. So eventually,

(01:06:37):
by the time the next day rolled around, the last
full day we would be on Vancouver Island, the curiosity
had rekindled enough that I thought, well, one more quick
walk over there won't hurt if I see this being again,
I'll just get out of there. I'm ready now. I
know I saw something, but I was also still partially

(01:07:01):
under the belief that it may have been a root ball,
because I had repeated that to myself over and over
again that night. So I took one more walk. I
knew it was my last chance to do so, and
I knew that if I had seen something that shouldn't
have been there, I'd be kicking myself the rest of
my life if I could have gotten, you know, a

(01:07:25):
piece of hair off the ground, or at least a
photo of a footprint or something. And my dad's encouragement
kind of gave me that extra push I needed, coupled
with my curiosity. So I took one more walk the
same path, and immediately as I get to that little

(01:07:46):
area where I had been the day before, I'm scanning
the trees, and I looked exactly where the being had
been the day before. And that's when my stomach kind
of dropped, because I knew it it wasn't a rootball
at that point, because it wasn't there. There was no
no footpaths, like I said, no game trails, no evidence

(01:08:10):
of loggers or anything. It was just an untouched patch
of woods. So if it had been a root ball
and there had been a logging road or something, I
could see a logging crew potentially cutting it up and
dragging it out of the way to make room for
their equipment. But there was nothing like that, no disturbance.

(01:08:30):
It was just a massive, hulking black shape that was
there the day before and now it was gone.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
So I didn't have that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:39):
Self deception to cling to anymore that it was just
a root ball, and I had imagined the bit of movement.
So after checking and double checking and triple checking in
all directions to see if maybe it was somewhere else,
you know, looking at me from behind a tree, he
didn't see anything. I thought it was still probably nearby,

(01:09:01):
and I was extremely wary, but I thought, I've braved
this patch of woods one more time, I will at
least take a closer look at that fallen tree that
I initially had seen. So I walked up to the
fallen tree, slowly, cautiously, looking side to side every time,

(01:09:22):
Like the first time you drive in heavy traffic after
you get your license, you're checking your blind spot all
the time. Right, And I get up to this tree
and it becomes very clear that it didn't fall naturally,
at least the balance of probability struck me that it

(01:09:46):
couldn't have fallen naturally. Number One, it had not been cut.
There's no evidence of a chainsaw or an axe or
anything like that. Number two, its roots were clearly visible
as if it had been pulled from the soil. And
number three, in poking it and kicking it, taking a

(01:10:07):
good hard look at the roots, wrapping on them with
my knuckles, this wood was not rotten.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
It wasn't bug damaged.

Speaker 5 (01:10:15):
It didn't have carpenter ants all through it, like some
trees that have fallen down along my driveway here in Ontario.
It was a sound tree, fresh green needles on it,
forty feet tall, pushed over like it was nothing, And
it was pushed over very close to where this being

(01:10:36):
had been the day before. And what's more, it was
pushed over in what I figure was probably the spot
where i'd heard that creaking wood fiber sort of noise
the night prior to that. So I'm trying not to
jump to conclusions at this point, but the pieces are

(01:10:57):
seeming to fit. Think think that this being the being
I had seen the previous day my second trip into
those woods, had made the noise, the grunt or growl
or whatever it was, and pushed this tree right over
until its roots tore out of the ground. That's what
I think happened. There was also a second tree that

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I hadn't seen the previous day because it was lying
almost perfectly parallel with the first fallen tree, concealed by
that fresh green foliage. Only when I got right up
to the first uprooted tree did I see that there
was a second tree underneath it. This one was a
birch similar height to the coniferous tree, may have been

(01:11:45):
a spruce that that first tree, and the second tree
was a birch lying directly under the first tree looked
like it had been fallen for a while longer though.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
The leaves, although.

Speaker 5 (01:11:59):
They were still on the branches that were a little
bit brown and shriveled. But the really strange part was
that the bottom of the trunk of this birch, which
was almost exactly where the uprooted and visible roots of
the coniferous tree. Where the two trees were lying almost
one on top of the other, the bottom of this

(01:12:22):
birch had been splintered like matchwood. It too had no
signs of cuts or any man made intervention. It looked
like it had just been snapped, but it was. It
was a good eight inches in diameter, and you know,
an eight inch birch tree, It's not a lot of

(01:12:43):
things in nature that can snap something like that. That's
a strong piece of wood. And unlike the coniferous tree
on top of it, the birch didn't have any visible roots.
In fact, I walked around still scanning the tree line
for this creature because I still thought it was nearby.
It was still on edge heart rate broadly close to

(01:13:06):
twice what it normally should be the whole time. But
I'm looking around and I'm trying to find a corresponding
splintered stump in the ground for this birch, and there
wasn't anything. In fact, there were no birch trees of
any kind broken or otherwise in the area. It was

(01:13:26):
mostly coniferous, maybe a few poplars, but no birch except
for this one eight inch diameter thirty to forty foot tall,
snapped off splintered birch tree hidden underneath this spruce tree. So,
you know, the way I see it, something had to

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drag it there because there was no stump, and that
the bush around it was so thick. I didn't see
how that was possible. It just didn't make any sense
to me, except that somehow the creature I'd seen the
day before was responsible and I didn't see anything else. Basically,

(01:14:12):
I looked close to where I thought the creature was.
Heart rate started to go up higher and higher, and
I was fighting back panic as I got closer to
the spot. But I didn't see any footprints where it
had been standing, or any tufts of hair stuck in
knots of bark on trees or anything like that. So,

(01:14:34):
after getting some video footage of these two fallen trees,
that I figured were pretty suspicious, fairly telling, I left
the woods and the next day we flew home, and
what I was left with was that I had seen
what people call bigfoot, because nothing else fit as far

(01:14:57):
as I could tell. So I think one of these
creatures through the rock at my daughter. I think the weirdness,
the weariness that the owner of our rental cottage tried
to instill in me warning me about the woods, I
think he knew more than he said. And that set

(01:15:18):
me down the road of this research because I figure,
if it was bigfoot, and again I felt nothing else fit,
I had to understand it. I wanted to get to
the truth of what are these beings and how does
it make sense that they're here? And I've been on

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that path ever since.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Let me ask you a couple questions here for our
audience just tuning in. You're talking about this encounter that
you had on Vancouver Island. Whereabouts on the island was it?

Speaker 5 (01:15:51):
This was on the southern tip of the island, pretty
close to the bottom when you look at it on
the map, A small village called Sureley.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
Yeah, that's It's not an area where you would expect
that because of the population at the southern tip of
the island. So that's that's very interesting. Like the minute
you start going up the highway towards you know, eventually
you get to you know, Duncan and Couch and Valley.
There's a lot of sightings in those areas as well

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as at the northern part of the island. And actually
doctor John Bindernagel used to believe that, you know, the
sasquatch used to swim between the islands, between the mainland
and the islands in between two Vancouver islands. So it
was very very interesting that it's happening that low on
the island. I mean, when you're going through the forest,

(01:16:46):
I know you were, you were guided by your curiosity,
but at some point did you realize the dangers you
were in by doing that?

Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
Well, I realized the dangers right off the bat. To
be honest, I will be the first to admit it
was a stupid thing to do. I mean, I know better.
I was raised in the woods, and I know better
than to walk into a patch of forest you don't know, unarmed,
and yet I did it because again, my driving characteristic

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in life has always been my curiosity, and I figured
rather arrogantly in the hindsight that I knew what to
do well enough to scare off a black bear, which
is the thing I thought i'd probably see if I
came across anything and a mountain lion, while they usually

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attack from behind and often from up in a tree,
and I figured it would probably be a quick death.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
Yeah. At one of my spots, we actually have a
resident mountain lion there. I had seen her our first
night investigating the literally about two and a half minutes
after we put our point sticks back in their cases
and in the vehicle. That's when I saw her run
across a trail about forty feet from us, fifty feet

(01:18:09):
from us, and then I got beautiful pictures on my
trail cams from her. So they are out there and
they are amazingly camouflaged in the forest. Were there any
footprints around? Was there any dirt being dug up around
the trees.

Speaker 5 (01:18:31):
Not around the trees themselves other than the disturbance around
the roots of the first tree I spotted, the coniferous
tree that had obviously been uprooted from where it had grown.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
That was clear. There was still dirt clods on the
roots themselves. But I did see.

Speaker 5 (01:18:51):
Something just prior to my sighting and just prior to
spotting the tree on the I guess my second trip
into these woods, so not the nighttime one where I
heard the noises, but the next day where I was
just about to see the creature. But before I saw it,

(01:19:11):
I didn't mention this part before. There was one point
in this two hundred yard walk, whatever it was, it
wasn't very far where there was what looked like a
bit of a game trail. It certainly wasn't a man
made opening or clearing. It was just a narrow sort

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of path. I noticed because the walking got easier for
a little while, and smack dab in the center of
this slightly easier, more clear area to walk, there was
a bit of disturbed dirt. I think in hindsight it
may have been a footprint, but to this day I'm

(01:19:53):
not one hundred percent sure because it certainly wasn't clear
with any distinct toe marks or anything like.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
That what it was.

Speaker 5 (01:20:00):
I got some footage of this too, It's on my
YouTube channel. It was a roughly rectangular impression in the
forest floor, about three inches deep and at least fifty
percent longer than my foot right, so it was roughly.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
The right shape, but.

Speaker 5 (01:20:24):
There was only one of them. That was the weird thing.
And I know that that's something we can talk about more.
I'm sure, because as I learned since then, Sasquatch do
have a habit of leaving footprints that bizarrely stop. Where
if we're dealing with a strictly biological entity and nothing more,
it should be impossible for those prints to not continue,

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and yet this happens. It's reported repeatedly. I didn't know
anything about that at that time. I just thought, well,
that's weird. There's a rectangular impression look kind of like
a foot in the middle of this game trail, and
there's only one, and it's awfully deep, and I'm two
hundred and sixty pounds. I tried to jump up and
down next to it see if I could make a

(01:21:10):
similarly deep impression. I couldn't. Couldn't even make a scratch
in the surface. It was pretty hard packed soil with
you know, forest litter on top of it and dried
needles and leaves and whatnot. But I didn't immediately think
it was a footprint, And again to this day, I'm
not sure. But shortly after that, I saw the fallen tree,

(01:21:32):
and then I saw the creature.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
The path that this has taken you on, you know
where it is. Now your life's mantra to try and
figure out what this creature is when you look at
it overall, what do you think Sasquatch is?

Speaker 5 (01:21:54):
It's a great question. I figured you would ask it,
and it's a difficult one because, as I'm sure many
researchers would agree, the deeper you dig, the less clear
in some ways things become. So here's what I'm convinced
of thus far. Number One, these beings exist, and they

(01:22:20):
do have physical form. They absolutely do leave footprints, they
leave hair samples, DNA samples have been analyzed. They move trees,
they knock on tree trunks, they break trees. I've witnessed

(01:22:41):
all of these things personally, in one form or another,
and I believe the evidence for these physical interactions is
quite compelling. But they're also more than just physical. I
have come to believe what the more is exactly. I'm

(01:23:04):
still working that out. I believe that there is a
connection to quantum physics in a way that we don't
fully understand. I believe that there may well be a
connection to UAPs and extraterrestrial life in some form, and

(01:23:28):
I believe rolled into that mix somewhere there may well
also be a spiritual connection of some sort. Now, how
all of those abilities and characteristics can exist in one
undiscovered being that only shows up in blurry video every
few years, I don't know yet, but I do know

(01:23:52):
again that they exist, that they are more than just
an undiscovered animal, although they are certainly physical, and I
believe that they have more in common with personhood than
with animals.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
And on that note, I'm gonna get you to hold
on right there, because hard to believe. We're already through
ninety minutes with you tonight, Robert Maxwell, He's got a
great YouTube channel dedicated to Sasquatch called Cabin in the Woods.
I highly suggest you go in there and hit subscribe.
Figure out what he's doing, especially when he's crossing rapid rivers.

(01:24:33):
Oh man, you're braver than I am, my friend, braver
than I am. But you know what we're all looking for, sasquatch.
And we got more coming up on this great topic
on spaced Out Radio. Stay tuned.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
You're listening with space Out with your host Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
All right, we are clear flying on by my friend
flying on by.

Speaker 5 (01:25:20):
Yeah, I guess we got a few more things we
should try to hit before we're done.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
What do you want to hit? Well, whatever you like.

Speaker 5 (01:25:33):
But you had mentioned the Patterson film. That's kind of
big in the news right now. But we should probably
tackle that one.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
But I'll leave it to you. Whatever. Did you want
to get to your second encounter?

Speaker 5 (01:25:46):
Yeah, we can talk about the second encounter absolutely, So
why don't we give it?

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
Why don't we give a brief ten minute version of
your second encounter? Then we'll get to Patterson gimblin. Sounds
like a plan. Yeah, that'll eat up the time. It'll
go really quick, really quick.

Speaker 5 (01:26:04):
Yeah, I'm having a great time. I really appreciate again
you having.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
Me on Dead Fish. How you doing. Nice to see
you again. Yeah, we're gonna do this again, that's for sure.
I'm here for I'm gonna study your channel a little
bit more, all right. M hm hmmm. How much snow

(01:26:55):
you guys got there? Still? Too much?

Speaker 5 (01:27:00):
It's been a very heavy winter for snow here in Ontario.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
Yeah, I think we've probably.

Speaker 5 (01:27:04):
Got at least a couple feet still on the ground,
although it is slowly melting.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Every day. Yeah, mine's we're pretty much done with the
heavy snow now we get you know, like yesterday morning
we had flurries, but by the time the afternoon comes around,
it's melted away.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:27:26):
Yeah, yeah, it's good when it doesn't last, when it's
already April truth.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
Debor Rooney, how are you? I am wearing pants, deb,
don't get too excited. I am wearing pants. But yeah,
I'm going to try on Sunday, maybe Friday, because it's
good Friday. I may try on Friday or Sunday to

(01:27:53):
get to to get to my one of my spots. Well,
I'll look forward to hearing how it goes. Oh dude,
it's the hell of a drive to get out there,
because I mean on the gravel roads you're only doing
thirty five k maybe forty k.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
So when you're driving in there, you have to be
It takes about an hour and fifteen minutes to get
in there.

Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
That's if we can make it through the gully. Because
the the easy part is driving to the gully. The
hard part is how much snow is in the gully
and cut more so coming out of the gully. Astro
fugitive how four wheel drive and snow tires. I'm sure.
Oh I got yeah, I've got a I got a

(01:28:54):
lifted jeep. Oh well you should be all right. Then
I'm more worried about the ice. I'm not worried about
that snow. It's the ice that because it's in a crevass.
So you got to you come down this side, the
grade is probably at about seven percent. Oh yeahkay, and

(01:29:17):
then going up is probably at about an eight or
nine percent. Like when you're going up the hill. You
come out of the gully, there's a little creek that
usually forms a puddle in there. Then you come up
the hill and that's that's that one's the danger part
is that part. And so if we can make it

(01:29:44):
through that, we're good. I just hope that it's not icy,
so we'll have to check it beforehand. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:29:52):
Well, as long as you can make it through that,
then all you have to worry about is nine foot tall,
eight hundred bipedal aminoids.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
Yeah exactly exactly. But we go in our area, we
have to go in armed. We have no choice. Black bears, moose,
cougar's wolf packs. We're coming back in three seconds. My friend,

(01:30:36):
let's kick off the second half of Spaced Out Radio.
My name is Dave Scott. We really appreciate you tuning
us on in wherever you are on this beautiful planet
we call Earth. Hey, we want to bring in our guests,
Robert Maxwell. We have until the top of the hour,
and you have another encounter, Robert, with your daughter, your second.

(01:31:01):
This is brand new to you. Not many people have
one encounter in their lifetime, let alone two in the
span of a year and a half.

Speaker 5 (01:31:11):
Yes, so yeah, the second encounter, it actually didn't involve
my daughter.

Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
Oh I thought it did. I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (01:31:21):
Yeah, No, the first encounter involved her indirectly because of
the stone throw. But this second encounter, I was specifically
on expedition looking for Sasquatch. I was with a small
group of gentlemen researchers. One of them was the well
known and controversial Sasquatch character Todd Standing. And I was

(01:31:43):
actually in your neck of the woods in BC. We
were out there pretty remote. I think the closest town
to us was Radium Hot Springs, but it wasn't super close.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
That was just the closest.

Speaker 5 (01:31:58):
A bunch of logging roads of thick forest and mountains
typical BC. Beauty, and the first part of that expedition
was mostly Todd showing myself and these other gentlemen sasquatch
evidence evidence that, to be honest, I didn't find all

(01:32:19):
that impressive at first until I saw what I saw
and I started putting more stock in it. The initial
evidence were things like tree breaks, some rather indistinct footprints
that had been somewhat washed out that I think were
footprints in hindsight, but nothing was towsplay.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
Or dermal ridges.

Speaker 5 (01:32:44):
But then on the third day of the week long expedition,
I saw something that it defied the laws of physics,
and this, along with a couple of other things, helped
push me into the Sasquatch is more than just an

(01:33:05):
animal camp, because the movement I saw shouldn't have been
possible in a conventional physical sense, no matter how agile
or adapted a creature is. We were walking through some thick,
rather marshy forest with a lot of dead fall in it.

(01:33:29):
The other gentleman and I and Tod were on this
gentle hill and we're just kind of catching our bearings.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
When Todd suggested that I take.

Speaker 5 (01:33:39):
A little walk off on my own, I think he
knew that I was going to do it anyway, and
as a naturally curious person, I wouldn't be able to
resist for much longer. So he said, Yeah, go ahead, Robert,
take a walk down there, shout if anything happens. I
had a shotgun load for bear, so I felt a
little more prepared than in my initial encounter, but of

(01:34:02):
course I wasn't expecting anything to actually happen. One encounter
in your life, as you said, is rare enough. But
something did. I was about two to three hundred yards
from the other gentleman, and it was very slow going because,
like I said, every inch of this patch of forest

(01:34:24):
there were plenty of healthy trees, but at least half
the trees there were deadfall, fallen down, tangled trunks everywhere,
so it was more climbing than walking. After about twenty
minutes of picking my way over all this dead fall,
I sat down on a log to just get my
bearings and think and kind of form an opinion on

(01:34:49):
the evidence I had seen thus far and if this
was really worth my time.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
But it quickly became clear.

Speaker 5 (01:34:57):
It was because I heard some some knocking sounds after
not too long coming out of the woods ahead and
to my right. Couldn't tell how far away they were.
Seemed pretty far, but they were very loud, very distinct.
Both of them echoed. It was one right after another, crack, crack,

(01:35:19):
just like that. Later I found out that one of
the other members of that expedition heard those as well.
Turns out he had been walking away from the group
kind of in a similar direction to me, although I
couldn't see him at the time, But that little bit
of corroboration helped me mentally afterwards, because although I was

(01:35:42):
the only person to see what I saw, this guy
heard the tree knocks that preceded it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
So I hear these.

Speaker 5 (01:35:50):
Tree knocks, and my heart just starts pounding out of
my chest. I think, this is it. Something's actually going
to happen here. I hear it over there, that that
treeknock clear day. I got to get my camera ready,
and the camera was was this phone right here, which
I had bought a special lens for that actually screws
into the phone case, a little miniature telephoto lens designed

(01:36:13):
for use with a phone, and I stupidly tried to
thread that on so I could get a clear close
up video of if anything showed up what I should
have done what I dearly wish I had done, is
just get the phone up and not bother with the
lens and start filming, because that move of attempting to
get the lens on cost me any meaningful footage, because

(01:36:36):
in about maybe two to three seconds after these tree knocks,
I saw something cross my field of vision impossibly quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
It was.

Speaker 5 (01:36:51):
Essentially an upright light brown blur, very similar color to
the white tailed deer I see almost every day here
in northern Ontario. And that's one reason I was initially
asking myself was this a deer that I saw? Was
it an elk? Now there are elk in those woods

(01:37:13):
as well, because it was the right color for either
of those, But it couldn't have been a four legged
animal because of the shape of it. It was an
upright blur essentially. I'm just going to take a drink
of water.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
Here, excuse me, Yeah, not a problem, such an interesting story,
I mean just painting. The picture is beautiful here.

Speaker 5 (01:37:39):
It was moving too quickly for me to get a
bead on any features.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
It crossed my entire field of.

Speaker 5 (01:37:49):
Vision in less than two seconds, maybe one and a
half one and three quarter seconds something like that. And
the part that just unsettled me was the fact that
it was not loping, if that makes sense. It should

(01:38:11):
have been leaping up and down as it ran to
clear all this tangled deadfall, their logs everywhere, some of
them three or four feet off the ground. Even me,
being a six foot tall guy pretty long legs, I
was having to sometimes sit down to swing my legs
over a log, or climb up, climb up to a

(01:38:31):
series of fallen logs like a fence. This blur, this
creature that seemed to be upright and rectangular and masses,
it wasn't doing that. It moved as if for that
very brief window of time, as if it was hovering,

(01:38:55):
like the logs weren't even there, like it was on
roller skates ort traveling on a rail or something. And
I didn't see how that was possible because of all
the obstacles in its pass and even a mountain lion,
as agile as they are, they'd be jumping over logs

(01:39:16):
and skipping under them. Maybe I also found myself wondering
could it have been a mountain lion because of the
speed and the agility, But that didn't fit because of
the height of the thing. The mountain lions are pretty
short at the shoulder, you know, three feet, sometimes less
than three feet.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
This thing was.

Speaker 5 (01:39:38):
Tall and upright, not stretched out like a blurred moose
or deer would have been, and the movement just didn't
make sense, the hovering. And the other weird part was
that as it ran impossibly flatly through this dead fall,
so fast that it was just a round blur, it

(01:40:02):
didn't make any sounds, no branches cracking, or even trees
or logs moving or being pushed out of the way,
just dead silent. The only sounds I heard came before
the actual sighting, the two tree knocks that had warned
me something's about to happen here, And something did happen.
But from everything I can tell, and I've played it

(01:40:25):
over and over again in my head, it shouldn't have
been physically possible for it to move that way and
for it to be so utterly silent.

Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
So that was it. It is weird. A couple of seconds,
it's all you get. Sometimes, you know, I still think
that they are they are in control of that situation.
One of the things that I want to know, because
I noticed that you do a lot of movement through
the forest and through the trees. Have you ever tried
just sitting there and letting you letting them come to you? Yes,

(01:41:02):
I have.

Speaker 5 (01:41:03):
In fact, that's kind of what I was doing before
that sighting. I took that walk away from the group,
but I had sat for a good twenty minutes on
this log before anything happened, and I was just kind
of thinking. I wasn't specifically trying to reach out mentally

(01:41:25):
to Sasquatch or anything like that, but I didn't want
to barge into their territory any further than I already had.
I was content to just sit and think. That was
my plan.

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
And then the tree knocks interrupted that our area. Because
it's so caaustrophobic in the trees where we are, we
will wander off into the paths and everything, but mostly
we just sit there and let them come to us.
Their curiosity just cannot keep them away. It's really kind

(01:42:02):
of cool. All right, We got twelve minutes left our
guest tonight, Robert Maxwell. We have until the top of
the hour. I want to ask you big controversy in
the Bigfoot world regarding the Patterson Gimlin film. Now, all
the proponents that this film is real people who have
known Roger Patterson and Roger probably Roger Patterson and Bob

(01:42:23):
Gimlin for years decades. I know that Roger passed away
in nineteen seventy two or something like that, but especially
Bob Gimblin, they're really starting to fire back on this
new documentary Capturing Bigfoot that says the Patterson Gimblin film
is allegedly hoaxed. Where do you stand on this? Being
new to this field yet very immersed.

Speaker 5 (01:42:46):
In it, Yeah, it's a great question. My current conclusion,
which I am open to changing should more evidence present itself,
is that the documentary is not the nail in the
coffin on the Patterson Gimlin film's authenticity that it is
being presented as now. I will say that, unlike a

(01:43:11):
lot of Bigfoot enthusiasts, I don't have a deep emotional
investment in the Patterson Gimlin film being real. I know,
for a lot of people, it is the thing that
got them initially interested in the subject, often decades ago,
and they have this deep need for it to be

(01:43:33):
real and react with in some cases vitriolic anger at
any suggestion to the contrary. Personally, I don't see it
that way. I think that emotion beyond just a deep
and healthy curiosity and sense of wonder towards the subject
as a whole, Beyond that strong emotion is detrimental to

(01:43:57):
actually getting at the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
And I think that.

Speaker 5 (01:43:59):
There's a lot of clouded judgment on both sides when
it comes to the Patterson film. Both proponents of authenticity
and skeptics towards that particular piece of evidence are letting
their emotions get the better of them. For me, it
just comes down to facts and logic, and the facts
and logic i'm aware of thus far. In connection with

(01:44:21):
the new documentary Capturing Bigfoot that claims to present new
evidence proving the Patterson film must be a hoax, well,
I'm convinced that that evidence leaves much wanting. There are
certain claims made that aren't actually as ironclad as.

Speaker 1 (01:44:46):
They may seem. Now, I will say.

Speaker 5 (01:44:48):
The full disclosure, I have not yet seen the documentary myself,
and I am very open to changing my opinion when
I do. I think that's the only reasonable logical approach
to take. I do know with a fairly high level
of detail and accuracy what the claims made in the
documentary are and what the purported evidence is claiming that

(01:45:12):
the film is a hoax. I know that because I
have talked in great detail with a gentleman who has
not only seen the evidence presented in the new documentary,
but is in the documentary himself and was interviewed for
it for five hours. Bill Munths is who I'm speaking of,
a well known figure in the bigfoot world and a

(01:45:34):
studier of the Patterson Gimlin film for decades. Because of
the conversations I've had with him and the extremely high
level of detail in his answers, I'm convinced currently that
the evidence put forward in the documentary is inconclusive, and

(01:45:56):
I still lean towards authenticity of the past Patterson film.
But again, I'm open to changing my tune if a
couple of specific boxes are checked by the documentary box
number one, if they can prove that Roger Patterson did,
in fact film a rehearsal quote unquote of the actual

(01:46:20):
Patterson film. And box number two, if it can be
proven beyond the shadow of a doubt, beyond just an
expert opinion, that that so called rehearsal footage that the
documentary claims to have discovered and will show that it
was in fact shot in nineteen sixty six, a year

(01:46:42):
before the actual Patterson Gimlin film in sixty seven. If
they can prove that, rather than timply making unfounded claims
as I currently am, under the impression that they do, well,
then I will be the first to admit that I
was wrong. I've made videos analyzing the Patterson Gimblin film
forming the conclusion that it is authentic, and at the

(01:47:05):
moment I stand by that conclusion. But anyone can be wrong,
and I encourage all researchers in this space, skeptic or believer,
to be open to changing your opinions should strong evidence
present itself.

Speaker 1 (01:47:23):
I think that's a fair assessment on it. And once again,
for full disclosure, not many of us have actually seen
the film. I personally have not because it is only
being played right now at south By Southwest Film Festival
in Texas, and there really isn't any projected release date
on Netflix or Amazon or Hulu or anybody for that matter,

(01:47:46):
you know, And I don't see the director Mark actually,
you know, with his reputation of putting out good work,
I don't see him going down the path of just
putting it on a YouTube channel for all to see.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:48:01):
I mean, we'd all love that, but I don't see
that actually happening. I think the big thing for me
is when you have people from the outside of our field,
like the director and the and the producer of this film,
it's very difficult to believe they understand the logic of Sasquatch.

(01:48:27):
They've never really put themselves. I believe in that forum
or that area before of going through the mountains, seeing
the terrain, you know, going outside the concrete jungle into
the real forests of the West coast or in the
central part of this you know, of Ontario or or

(01:48:48):
wherever in the United States. And I believe that they're looking.
And I realized that they're looking evidence based. And there
is this film of what's Bill Raneus or something like that,
harmonious Bob Horymous, Yeah, Bob Horanymous, I always butcher that name,
you know, wearing a suit from a previous film that

(01:49:11):
looked nothing like the Patterson Gimblin film. You know. So
there is a lot, but I'm like you, I want
to see it. I want to draw my own conclusion
from it, to see if it is going to all
of a sudden make me think differently about it, because realistically,
that video is the basis of what so many of

(01:49:34):
us do and so many of us have seen. You know,
if you've had a close encounter with sasquatch, the shoulders
going to no neck in just a giant head, it's
phenomenal to think of. And when you see it with
your own eyes, it that you look at the Patterson

(01:49:56):
Gimblin film and you're like, that's it. Nothing else compare.
So I'm curious. I'm very curious about it.

Speaker 5 (01:50:07):
Yes, well, I think curiosity is the right reaction, and
I find it unfortunate that so many Bigfoot enthusiasts are
reacting instead of with healthy curiosity, rather with this vitriolic anger,
this aggression. That's not how we move the needle on

(01:50:31):
the discovery process. If the film is proven to be
a hoax, it doesn't have any bearing on the realness
of sasquatch.

Speaker 1 (01:50:40):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:50:40):
I say that, of course, is someone who has had
two sightings, I can understand the emotional blow it could
be to an enthusiast who's had no sightings and therefore
probably puts a lot more stock than I do in
something like the Patterson film. But ultimately, truth is what matters,
and if we're to be taken seriously as researchers, we

(01:51:02):
shouldn't be afraid of a potential truth that might make
us uncomfortable. That cuts both ways, and I think we
all need to keep that in mind.

Speaker 1 (01:51:16):
We're never going to appease everybody in this field, those
who have never had an encounter with the creature, or
never mind just having an encounter. Walking through a forest
and seeing eighteen inch tracks that are seven inches eight
inches nine inches wide, that's impressive as it is. You

(01:51:40):
see one of those, you're already hooked on the whole thing,
or you're getting the hell out of dodge one of
the two. Yeah, absolutely, you know. I mean, it doesn't
take much to realize how big these creatures are. I mean,
when you were talking about birch trees earlier, at one

(01:52:01):
of my locations here, there's probably a forty to fifty
foot birch tree that is bent right over, and it
wasn't there a couple of years ago, and yet two
years ago we found it bent right over and the
tip of the tree was tucked underneath a fallen log.

(01:52:23):
By about eighteen twenty inches.

Speaker 5 (01:52:26):
Isn't it amazing what snowload can do well?

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
I originally thought snowload. But snowload isn't tucking the tip
of the tree underneath a fallen dead log. That's Tony Fell.
It wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:52:41):
And I've seen similar things, massive maple trees forty fifty
feet long, bent in an impossible bow. Right, surprising because
it should have snapped. For one thing, absolutely, The second
surprising element is that it's still under tension. I've seen
one underneath a broken tree at a angle shaped like
a capital letter A, but the top part that was

(01:53:04):
broken was still attached, and this broken tree was capping
this bent over maple which was still under tremendous tension.
You could pull the maple tree down, let go of it,
it would slam back upwards. Now tell me how snowlow
does that.

Speaker 1 (01:53:19):
We're still trying to figure it out, my friend. We're
still trying to figure it out. It really doesn't make sense.
But we're down to the final minute here with you, Robert,
and I want to say a big thank you for
coming on the show tonight and sharing your incredible experiences
and knowledge. You know, I love the fact that you
don't get too high, you don't get too low. You're
very even keeled, which is probably the way you research too.

(01:53:42):
Tell everybody where they could find your YouTube channel.

Speaker 5 (01:53:46):
If you just go to YouTube and search for Cabin
in the Woods Bigfoot, then my stuff will come up.
If you look for only Cabin in the Woods, you
might come across that well known horror movie. That's not me,
I promise, I'm not Chris Emsworth. It's Cabin in the
Woods Bigfoot. The name of the channel is Cabin in
the Woods, but to find it, add a Bigfoot into

(01:54:07):
the search and that'll bring it up every time.

Speaker 1 (01:54:10):
I appreciate you, my friend. This was a great, great
time with you. Can't wait to do it again, and
good luck in your search for sasquatch here this spring
and going into summer. Coming up next on spaced Out Radio,
we have Swamp Dweller. Then Little Terry Hall will be
with us for the weird news of the week. You're

(01:54:34):
listening to spaced Out Radio with your host Dave Scott.
All right, buddy, that was amazing, great job tonight. Well,

(01:54:58):
thank you very much for the opportunity. It was a
lot of fun. Really enjoyed the conversation. Let's do it again. Yeah,
I want to do it. I want to do it
again once you and Less get done your adventure and
we can talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:11):
Sure.

Speaker 5 (01:55:12):
Well absolutely, I'm also writing a book about sasquatch right now.
I'm about three quarters of the way through. I just
signed a publisher contract, so maybe that's something we can
throw in at some point as well, if you're okay
with it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:25):
Yeah, we can talk about it, all right, my friend,
I got to run you take care, awesome on them.
Thank you again. We'll talk soon, Robert Maxwell. Everybody, great,
great interview, great interview. We'll be right.

Speaker 7 (01:55:37):
Back us.

Speaker 8 (01:56:26):
USA.

Speaker 7 (01:57:30):
U H.

Speaker 1 (01:59:39):
All right, let's bring in Terence Hall, the mustached beauty
that we call him. There he is. How you doing
about it?

Speaker 2 (01:59:49):
The EMI and boss? How you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:59:51):
I'm good. I've been holding back to sneeze for a while,
so no, that's not healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:59:56):
Yeah, I know that'll make your head explode, dude.

Speaker 1 (02:00:04):
Yeah, I had the nose tickle going on, so.

Speaker 6 (02:00:09):
Well.

Speaker 2 (02:00:09):
I would say, go out and look at the sunshine, man,
but it's kind of a little bit. We'll go out
and look at the full bone. Right. He is right
now for you.

Speaker 1 (02:00:17):
Jeff Steve Garvey is here. He'll hit a home run
for you.

Speaker 2 (02:00:22):
I love Steve Garvey. It's such a stud man.

Speaker 1 (02:00:27):
Literally, Let's remember when we talked like that. Let's remember
when we talk Artemis that we can't date it. Okay,
so don't say today, Oh.

Speaker 2 (02:00:42):
Yeah, no problem. But there's some amazing stuff with that one.
I am so happy about that, Dave.

Speaker 6 (02:00:50):
I I uh.

Speaker 1 (02:00:52):
I was like, hey man to my son. I said,
hey man, we gotta you gotta watch this. I said,
you're going to be remembering this when your daddy's age.

Speaker 2 (02:01:00):
Oh that hit me back to what I was like
four years old, sitting in from this great, big old
TV and for just being amazed.

Speaker 1 (02:01:09):
All right, we're coming back in eight seconds. Thank you,
Kitty t Bone times too Forrest Louis necessary dialogue, Erica
and Matthew for the super chats. We greatly appreciate your
love tonight, guys, thank you. Third and final hour of
Spaced Out Radio is underway. My name is Dave Scott.

(02:01:31):
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let's head to the swamp. Hello, and welcome to spaced
Out Radio Swamp. I'm swamp dweller. In tonight, I'm going

(02:02:36):
to take you on a mystic journey of the unn
sharing tales of monsters, legends and nightmares. Welcome to the
spaced Out Radio Swamp.

Speaker 9 (02:02:49):
So this is a story that took place when I
was around eight years old in my old neighborhood. I
was next door neighbors with my best friend Alex. They
both went to the same school always hung out every
day after school. One day, I was bringing my Nintendo
sixty four to his house so we could play together.
Once I got into the house, his uncle was there

(02:03:11):
watching the TV, so we couldn't use it. Today, I
now know that he wasn't his uncle because my older sibling,
which knew Alex's older sibling, told me that his parents
rented out rooms to random people from their original hometown,
so the quote unquote uncle was just a random stranger
from out of the country. He told us to go

(02:03:31):
into his shed to search for an extra TV, so
we opened the shed and started searching. We found an
older TV, but we could use it. Then something started
moving all the things around and we thought it was
a rat, so we didn't mind at first. Then we
heard laughter, something so scary that I tried to leave,

(02:03:51):
but Alex told me not to work. I kept searching
around for the laughter, and we eventually found this one
male doll that was around two feet long.

Speaker 1 (02:04:00):
About I'm gonna cut that short because I accidentally recorded
two pieces of audio over top of that. I'm sorry
about that. That's my fault. That would be a UFO
siting over Philadelphia that was playing from a number of
days ago. I apologize about that. So sorry, Swampy. We're

(02:04:21):
gonna cut you off short there because we have a
little bit of technical STAFFU courtesy of the host. But
that's okay, that's okay, bringing Terry Hall must stand on
the ball.

Speaker 6 (02:04:48):
The week.

Speaker 2 (02:05:08):
We'll leave it to spaced out radio to create mysteries.
I guess we'll never know what was in the shed, Dave.

Speaker 1 (02:05:13):
I'm going to have to record that way. Yeah, I record,
So what I what I do is I record swamp Dweller.
I record about six or seven at a time, and
then I just store them waiting for us to play them,
put them all in order. And I guess I forgot

(02:05:34):
to mute my channel. I was recording it, and I was.

Speaker 2 (02:05:41):
Trying to I was trying to listen to this machine man.

Speaker 1 (02:05:44):
Yeah, I was trying to listen to this this cockpit
audio over Philadelphia where this pilot at about thirteen hundred
feet was flying and all of a sudden had like
this black disc almost like an orb you know, like
if you stretched out a football fly right beside them,

(02:06:06):
you know. And And because I do my hit nightly
on WPHT in Philadelphia, the fifth largest market in the
United States for radio. I thought, man, I gotta play this,
I gotta check this out. And I was just so
focused on that, I've totally forgot about swamp dweller. Well,
when you play two pieces of audio, it doesn't sound

(02:06:26):
very good.

Speaker 2 (02:06:28):
So well, I think that's a pretty good excuse. The
story like that probably would have jumped my attention as well.

Speaker 1 (02:06:34):
Right, Speaking of.

Speaker 2 (02:06:39):
When I lived in Girdle, I had a buddy of
mine who had a private airplane and I went up
and you know, like I'm a little sessta. I can't
imagine what you would be thinking being in a little
tin can floating around in the atmosphere and have some
debt park next to you. Man, that freaked me out.

Speaker 1 (02:06:56):
Right right. Speaking of flying, we got some astronauts in
space right now, How awesome is that, Terry. I'm gonna
get you to turn some volume down. We're getting a
little bit of feedback from your microphone here.

Speaker 2 (02:07:09):
I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (02:07:11):
I don't know why, let me do this.

Speaker 2 (02:07:13):
Give me a minute.

Speaker 1 (02:07:15):
So what we're talking about is I don't know if
you watched it or not, but I was absolutely enthralled
by the by the launching of Artemis two like it
was amazing. I felt like a kid again watching the
Shuttle program take off. And you know, I give NASA

(02:07:38):
a very hard time over UFOs. I do. I'm not
the biggest fan of NASA, but I was proud for
them when they launched. I was very proud. It felt
like something had been missing a long long time and
finally we got it back.

Speaker 2 (02:07:55):
Terry. That took me back to Oh, by the way,
does that sound better?

Speaker 1 (02:08:01):
Yeah, you're said it better? Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:08:04):
Sorry, I was testing he set up. It works sometimes
sometimes it don't. But hey, anyway, that took me back
to when I was like four or five years old,
sitting in the living room floor watching the Apollo guys
go up in the space. I was just I am
so overtly excited about this. I'm crazy happy about this
whole thing. This is so cool. And I tell you what,

(02:08:30):
the whole Ornamous program is really groundbreaking in a lot
of different ways. We've come a long way in space, Dave,
and we've got a Canadian up there with them today.

Speaker 1 (02:08:42):
I know, we do. I know. I'm so proud of that,
so proud of that.

Speaker 2 (02:08:51):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:08:51):
I actually I made a political comment on X about that,
because there was somebody on X today saying saying, you know,
why do we have a Canadian going up on our
craft going to our moon? And I typed in in response,

(02:09:13):
he's trying to get away from the NDP convention. If
any of you have seen what's happened politically in Canada
from this past weekend, go watch it. It's an eye
opener to watch. It was very, very hard to watch
and extremely cringe for most people out there. But it

(02:09:38):
was a tough, tough time and I had to do it.
I had to. I had to say it. I really
had to say it. But fifty years, man, fifty years,
and one thing that I didn't know is Artemis. The
name is a goddess who was the s the Greek

(02:10:01):
goddess who was the sister to Apollo. So the fact
that you know, you had the Apollo missions, which obviously
we landed on the moon for those of us who
believe that we did, and now we have Artemis to
go back to the moon. I thought that was one
of the coolest things ever.

Speaker 2 (02:10:20):
Man. That was the last launch since Apollo seventeen back
in seventy two, to go to the moon.

Speaker 1 (02:10:31):
In my quest to continue to harp on NASA, though,
I will say this, their camera footage was terrible. Like
watch when you watch a SpaceX launch. Their cameras are perfect.
They're on the perfect angles. They've got cameras built into

(02:10:53):
the rockets, you know, so you can see the really
cool angles of like when when the the the rockets
disband from the ship and everything. I'm sorry, I'm I'm
not up on my technical jargon when it comes to
to rocket launches, the booster packs, the boosters. That's what

(02:11:17):
I'm trying to say. You know, NASA's footage are the
cameras trying to be like SpaceX was like the t
MoU version of rocket launches today. It really was, but
I mean just so impressive.

Speaker 2 (02:11:32):
I was going through a lot of those and I
did find one. As a matter of fact, Dave, I'll
send this one to you for your son because it
came out so absolutely, positively amazing, and it was right
at liftoff. There's a few, but you gotta during liftoff
there was so much force it blew the elevator doors

(02:11:55):
off there at the launch pad. It actually blew elevator
doors off the lunch bad they're saying that there's they've
got a little bit of a pair to do. They're
at that lunch bad after Artemis took called don't kidding,
no kidding. I was wondering about that, because you know,
they're up there in higher thorbit. They're like forty three

(02:12:16):
thousand miles up in space right now, where a paint chip,
literally a paint chip, a one centimeter paint chip, if
it would hit them, it hits with like the force
of it. It's equal to five hundred and fifty pounds traveling.
It's sixty miles an hour for a paint chip. Imagine
all that stuff they had to blow through to get

(02:12:36):
out there. So hey, you know, even if even if
your Canadian brethren was up there running away from something,
they got a lot of hoods. But to go up
there where even a paint chip can can take a
toll on everything. But when it came to the footage,
like they're you know, they're going around the rocket booster,
the main booster, and but it's like it reminded me

(02:12:59):
of the same kind of footage that they had off
of lunar missions. It always seems like it's chopping now
Elon Musk has got his Tesla up there, and we
got some really like four K clear shots out of that.
So maybe it's a difference between lower orbit and higher
th Orbot Dave, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:13:19):
Well, I think we're dealing with Rolls Royce versus you go.

Speaker 2 (02:13:24):
Well. Artemis was the first actual real toilet in space,
and one of the major problems they had that they're
working on currently is that the toilet malfunctioned. But that
toilet is so loud when they step into it. They
actually have to put earbuds in.

Speaker 1 (02:13:44):
That's a power deuce if you've ever heard of it.
My goodness.

Speaker 2 (02:13:49):
One other thing that's original on this one, Dave talk
about can you hear me now? They got to take
the phones with them.

Speaker 1 (02:13:58):
That's very cool. Good they can play Candy Crush while
they're up there. The only thing that I didn't see
I didn't see on this is it didn't look like
Artemis had any windows. Did you see any windows on it?

Speaker 2 (02:14:16):
Like?

Speaker 1 (02:14:17):
Are they are they just in a capsule that is
windowless and they're not allowed to there's nothing to look outside?
Or were they covered up? I have to find this out.

Speaker 2 (02:14:28):
I think they were covered up. They artemists. Uh, there's
a few other things that's going on with the Artemis.
It's got a few satellites that it took up with
it as well that it's going to be placing up
in the higher thorbit. They're test beds to see how
electronics are going to perform in solar radiation. But the
thing about this whole Ortamist thing, Dave, that a lot

(02:14:49):
of people might not even think about, is now we're
back to an actual global race back to the Moon.
China is right on our heels with this stuff, man,
So now we're back just like during the Cold War.
It's maybe not as pressing, but maybe it is. Now
we're back to a global space race, and I think

(02:15:13):
that that carries a lot of weight, you know, it
really does. But now there's a couple more First, they're
going to be able to check out this whole thing
is amazing. They're gonna be able to actually observe observe
a lunar eclipse from space, talk about front and center.
That's going to be amazing. Another thing you're gonna be

(02:15:35):
able to do is observe the Sun's outer atmosphere from Artemis.
So I mean this is a this is quite a
big deal. They're gonna zoom around the Earth for two days,
then they're going to head off to the Moon. It's
going to take four days to get there and four
days to get back to splash them. But I think

(02:15:55):
I'm so tickled about this, Dave, I feel like a kid.

Speaker 1 (02:15:59):
Give wonder if they're going to have to pay roaming
charges on their phones?

Speaker 2 (02:16:03):
Well, talk about can you hear me?

Speaker 6 (02:16:05):
Now?

Speaker 2 (02:16:05):
Man?

Speaker 1 (02:16:08):
Here is And by the way, I did check it out. Yes,
the Orion spacecraft used for the Artemis two mission is
equipped with windows, so the crew module will be able
to look outside. They will be able to see the Earth,
they will be able to see the Moon and take photographs.
I mean, wonderful, absolutely wonderful.

Speaker 2 (02:16:31):
And he said, I'm just I'll enjoy about this now.
Another thing this is going to be able to do
is all of these naysayers and people who say that
maybe we didn't go to the Moon to begin with
back when I was young. I think we're going to
be able to put that to rest too.

Speaker 1 (02:16:48):
The only other disappointment that I have to be blunt,
and this is one's being a little selfish, is artemists
will not fly around West coast. We will not be
able to see it on the West coast, so when
it re enters Earth's atmosphere and everything like that. Now,

(02:17:11):
if you have a good telescope, I'm sure you might
be able to see it, if you have a clear
moonlight when it's going around the moon. But for the
for the rest of us, you know, with our with
our just our our eyes, we're not going to be
able to see it. That really sucks. But that's okay.

Speaker 2 (02:17:29):
You know who I'm going to be calling about this,
don't you, Our good friend Tom King, talk about the
guy with the cameras. There we go, buddy. Absolutely, Tom
has actually should be footed from one of his cameras.
I mean, that guy can get a close up of
the moon.

Speaker 1 (02:17:50):
Be cool if he could catch something. We got six
minutes to go before we go to break. Matt Gates,
the former congressman now kind of in the media circle,
was interviewed on a podcast and news statement to the
other day about the UAP slash UFO story, and he
started getting into something a little bit weird terry about

(02:18:13):
whether or not alien hybridization is currently happening on this planet.
He believes it is and they know about it. The
government knows about it.

Speaker 2 (02:18:25):
Well, that came from an unverified whistleblower, let's say, undisclosed
whistle blower. And they were supposed to be between six
and twelve locations around the country. And what Matt Gates
had proposed was members of Congress go to these places

(02:18:46):
on a secret day and hit them all at once
like an FBI raid. So whatever was there couldn't be
moved from location to location to location. But there was
a lot of other things that he disclosed on that
pod cast as well, not just any you know, the
whole the whole secret space program, the you know where

(02:19:07):
everybody was talking about hybrids and things. This is one
of the things that Gates was talking about. Like you said,
he said, if the military we had a very secret
program where aliens that were living and forced breeding programs
with humans had been deducted from war zones and caravans
of migrants. Pretty mind blowing stuff. And keep in mind,

(02:19:31):
Matt Gates was in line to be Secretary of Defense.
He's seen secret stuff that other members of Congress haven't
been exposed to. One of the other things that he
said is that he had seen classified things as far
as as vehicles that would not be anything that you

(02:19:55):
know exists on Earth. He's seen classified settings, things that
Arnix explainable with teletechnology that we know is available. So
how much longer can they sit on this? Dave? I mean,
this is getting this is getting grip everywhere. Jd Vance.
The Vice President is obsessed with UFOs. He's already said

(02:20:19):
he's tried to go to h to Area fifty one
a couple times, but he just couldn't make it. Timing
didn't work out. But I mean even the Vice President
has said one of his statements was he has three
more years of tippy tippy top information and he's going
to get to the bottom of this.

Speaker 1 (02:20:41):
Well, and this is where I think we're going to
get more into the UAP drama. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:20:49):
Well, Matt Gaetz is one of the guys that leans
towards that aliens are are demons. He's one of He's
one of that camp, and he stated as much on
several occasions.

Speaker 1 (02:21:06):
I think he's very into the subject. He's very much
into the subject. He got a piece of what he knows. Obviously,
not being a congress person anymore, he doesn't have the
ability to have the top secret clearance or the understanding
or the new news of what's going on. But I
think that where he's going with this topic is right

(02:21:31):
off the WU deep end, Like he's taken the high
platform of WU and jumping right into the pool.

Speaker 2 (02:21:41):
Yeah, he went way past what Obama let slip the
other day, and you know what Trump said about all
of that, and he went on truth Social and said
he was going to declassify all of it. Right, But
what Matt Gets was saying on that Bennie show is
just plain flat. Look, I've seen things, we have it.

(02:22:02):
It's for real, no ifans or buds about it. And
this is something else that's happened. And besides the other
stuff that we've got already. It's coming to a head, Dave.

Speaker 1 (02:22:15):
But the question is, you know, still the debate is
it going to be alien? Is it going to be alien?

Speaker 2 (02:22:24):
Well, how would you how else would you explain a
statement like it would not be anything you know exists
on Earth classified things that are not explainable with the
technology that we know is available. He was very precise

(02:22:45):
in what he was saying, didn't leave much room for
error in that statement.

Speaker 1 (02:22:51):
The skeptics Terry as we had about a minute ago,
will say, well, it's just another statement. There's no proof,
there's no evidence. But you know when they're talking about
this type of stuff, they just can't release it.

Speaker 2 (02:23:06):
No. No, I mean, if you sit and you think
about it, if it's this kind of technology, things that
could boil down to us average people, you know, where
we could maybe get some help with electricity and other things,
and different forms of transportation where we're not having to

(02:23:28):
you know, get the oil and all that. I mean,
there's a lot of different ramifications when it comes right
down to it. But somebody like Matt gets the guy's
just freewheeling. He's not really leaving very many bars left closed, Dave.
I mean, granted he can't come straight out and say, look,

(02:23:50):
this thing came from that star over there, but he's
pretty putting his foot down saying this stuff didn't come
from here. Period.

Speaker 1 (02:24:01):
Well, we're gonna learn about that and more when we
come back on Spaced Out Radio. We're gonna get into
the weird news of the week with Terry hall As.
That's why we have him on, and we're gonna get
into a couple of weird stories here Terry that I'm
curious of your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (02:24:18):
Okay, this is spaced out Radio.

Speaker 1 (02:24:21):
Weird News of the Week finishes up this show. Next,
this is spaced out Radio, and your hosts n stout.

(02:24:54):
All right, buddy, we're clear, will you ruda? How you
doing for that?

Speaker 2 (02:25:00):
What about us? YouTube crowd? Guys, if you get a
chance to see that that interview with Matt gets on
on the Bennie Show, watch it. It's it's a it's
worth watching. I got a good one too, Dave, talking
about potholes and needing to get your roads fixed. I
got a good one.

Speaker 1 (02:25:21):
Oh goodness, I got one. I got one very interesting one,
and actually two very interesting ones and one that's gonna
piss you off.

Speaker 2 (02:25:35):
Oh okay, yep, Well you know what they used to
say about that, rather pissed off and pissed on unless
you're into that kind of thing. And then when we
found out last week that there's a guy pulling around
carriage is a weigh twenty two hundred pounds with his nipples,
so anything's possible, right, that still cracks me up up,

(02:25:57):
that guy, oh Dave. The dystopeied world that we live in.

Speaker 1 (02:26:03):
Today isn't that the truth. Isn't that the truth?

Speaker 2 (02:26:12):
You know, your son and my grandson are gonna grow
up in a place that just we can't even imagine anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:26:20):
I'm getting so excited, dude. My grandson's going to be
here this weekend. Oh oh yeah, I haven't given him
his Christmas presents yet.

Speaker 2 (02:26:29):
Oh really, No, it's gonna be a blast.

Speaker 1 (02:26:32):
Oh my goodness, it's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:26:37):
That is gonna be a blast.

Speaker 1 (02:26:39):
Uh huh. Look take pictures always always about three and
a half minutes.

Speaker 2 (02:27:02):
Well, well, this one's close to home. I think we'll
talk about this one too. It's one of my favorite
ones as a matter of fact. Where I live here

(02:27:24):
in Oregon, Dave, I mean twenty minute drive to actually
ten minute drive in several different directions. You can go
to some of the most amazing waterfalls, yes, that I've
ever seen, And there's one of Equa Falls, and oh,
the place is just stunningly beautiful. It's one of my favorites.

(02:27:51):
And I just found a story about it today.

Speaker 1 (02:27:55):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (02:27:57):
Yeah, that's when they about doing this kind of show
with you, Davis. We run across some of the funniest, strangest,
coolest stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:28:09):
It is fantastic. Is it.

Speaker 2 (02:28:18):
All right.

Speaker 1 (02:28:26):
Here at about a buck thirty?

Speaker 2 (02:28:44):
Yeah? My other setup actually is just a little tiny device.
But I guess that was just pulling in too much volume.

Speaker 1 (02:28:52):
Hun could be.

Speaker 2 (02:28:58):
Dead fish cheese, Fred, Who are seeing the right? Oh?
I thought you were saying that the sky was full
of UFOs? Right now is going to say, well, grab
a camera, don't be shy. You know, dude, Do you
know who Tim Poole is? Dave, Yes, he's got that podcast.
He actually came out was reporting on that Matt Gates

(02:29:21):
story today, but he let it drop that he's had
his own experience with the sighting as well. Very cool,
very cool, and didn't it's somebody I don't listen to
a whole lot, but that was that was the first
place that I saw that was talking about this whole
deal with with Gates.

Speaker 1 (02:29:44):
Got thirty seconds Terry Big, Thank you to kidd E,
t Bone Times too, Erica, necessary dialogue, Louis and Matthew.
Thank you for your love, everybody, Thank you for your love.

(02:30:37):
Final half hour, spaced out radio. We got it underweight here.
Terry Hall is our guest with the weird News of
the Week. My name is Dave, Scott and Terry. We're
gonna get right into it. I'm going to fire you
up here. Okay. So if you remember that just a
little bit ago, about a week a week and a
half ago, there was that horrific plane crash at LaGuardia

(02:30:59):
Airport where the Air Canada plane slammed into the firetruck,
killing both the pilot and co pilot. You would think
that would be major news in Canada, correct, because it
was two Canadian pilots.

Speaker 2 (02:31:15):
Ye boy, you'd think so. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:31:19):
So let me explain what's in the news in Canada.
This is how screwed up our system is up here
right now. Air Canada President and CEO Michael Russo will
retire sometime in the fall after nearly two decades with
the airline. It's set on Monday, a week after he
made headlines okay by issuing an English only statement a

(02:31:45):
message of condolences for the following deadly crash of Flight
eighty six forty six in New York. Mister Russo has
reached a natural retirement age. His decision is consistent with
the board's long standing focus on CEO execuscuative succession planning,
a process that has been underway for more than two
years internally. In Air Canada, flight eighty six, forty six

(02:32:08):
departed Montreal collided with a fire truck upon landing at
LaGuardia at airport March twenty second, killing both pilots, First
Officer Mackenzie Gunther and Captain Antoine Forrest. So, as the
president of Air Canada, he comes out and gives a
statement of condolence and that Air Canada is going to investigate.

(02:32:32):
Why is this news? I see you're puzzled. Why is
this weird news? He's basically been asked to resign from
his job because he did not give a statement in
condolence in English and French. We are a bilingual country.

(02:32:53):
And even though Air Canada is a private corporation that
gets propped up by the federal government. That is what
the media is talking about. They're not talking about these
two pilots who are heroes who sacrifice themselves for the

(02:33:13):
sake of their passengers and their crew because if they
tried to turn the plane, the plane would have probably
flipped and rolled. No, they're talking about the president of
Air Canada not giving a speech of condolence in French,
and they feel as the National Airline of Canada, that

(02:33:37):
the president should speak both languages, never mind the job
that he was doing, never mind how good he was
or whatever. And I don't know the guy from Adam.
I don't know if he was doing a great job.
All I know is that Air Canada Jazz planes have
the most uncomfortable seating in the world. But this dude
is literally being forced to retire because he didn't give

(02:34:01):
a message of condolence and sympathy en Francis.

Speaker 2 (02:34:10):
Well, first off, I think if I was part of
the French speaking community, and I mean, okay, Dave, let
me ask you this. The you guys do simulcast where
everything is running in French down at the bottom of
the screen, because that's what coming next. It's the way

(02:34:36):
it is not on every if it's not on everywhere,
if it's not on the news, if it's not here, there,
and everywhere. Where. Are they holding this guy accountable to
something like that?

Speaker 1 (02:34:44):
Terry? I know, I know it's one of those baffling claims.
And look, this is I just can't believe that they
are more concerned about whether or not this dude spoke French,
and French is a beautiful language. I love the fact
that we're a bilingual country. I do, except you know, yeah,

(02:35:07):
they need the exposed back. Mm hmm, they need the
exposed back.

Speaker 2 (02:35:13):
Yeah, buddy, I agreed, there absolutely absolutely, That's that's ridiculous.
That's just ridiculous. That's not weird. That is weird news.
I mean, how much weirder can you get rather than
being upset that or heartbroken that there's mothers and sons

(02:35:35):
who don't have fathers anymore, there's everybody. There's loss across
the board here and they're worried about if the guy said, hey,
I'm sorry in French. That's ridiculous, man, You're right. That
did make me mad, Dave. I mean, we're getting to
the point here with all this political correctness to the
empathy is going out the window anymore.

Speaker 6 (02:35:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:35:59):
I want to get to this story too, Okay, because
and for our viewers on YouTube, I'm actually going to
put it up on screen here. Okay. So there is
a mystery going on on the beautiful Sea to Sky Highway. Okay,
this is one of the most epic drives in North America,

(02:36:20):
and along the Sea to Sky Highway, they have a
gondola and a mystery remains unsolved five years after a
second sabotage. Okay, this is where it gets kind of weird.
So police, five years after the incident, have released a

(02:36:42):
The RCMP Major Crime Section is still saying little about
this case, but they finally released a picture of the
alleged person who apparently cut the cord that one of
those big metal cave to send the gondolas down, crashing

(02:37:03):
to the ground, causing millions of dollars in damage. But
this picture is a little odd. Because of this, now
our radio audience will not see this, but I'll explain
it to you. They took like a like a security

(02:37:24):
camera footage still shot of the alleged person who cut
the cable. Problem is, the person looks like a sasquatch.

Speaker 2 (02:37:34):
It's when it bigfoot learn how to run a cutting
torch man. Well look check his union card.

Speaker 1 (02:37:44):
Oh, we're not checking cards here on this show. Let's
not even get started there for a second.

Speaker 2 (02:37:51):
But that's wild. That thing looks like it's eight feet
tall and it's three foot wide four foot wide at
the shoulders. Holy smoked Dave.

Speaker 1 (02:37:59):
And the weird part about this photo is it doesn't
have a neck. It's just shoulders to head. Now, it
might be the angle that the photo was taken from,
because a photo is obviously taken from higher up on
like one of the polls or whatever. Okay, but this

(02:38:22):
this is going around and I saw this on another
person's Facebook page. They're like, that is not a human,
That is a sasquatch. But the flip side was the
cable cut? We have to go because with that, because
that's what the RCMP Royal Canadian Mounted Police have stated

(02:38:43):
that the cable was cut. Like, you're not just going
to get in there with a pair of pliers or
nippers to cut this.

Speaker 2 (02:38:52):
No, and actually cutting through a significantly sized cable like that,
even with the cutting torch, is a very difficult proposition.
It's in between the oil and dirt and grease and
everything else. That's a hard thing. But looking at that photograph, Dave,
and using Flear technology a lot myself costumes, when you

(02:39:18):
have a costume on, looking at it through Flear, you
could tell that it especially something like a big hairy
suit like this, right, But the heat on that is
so uniform and it even gets darker around the midriff,
and that is that is not a costume.

Speaker 1 (02:39:39):
I didn't. I didn't even realize.

Speaker 2 (02:39:42):
That I'm looking at it just from you know, just saying, hey,
this is a picture. What do you think it is?
I mean, without any other supposition or anything like that.
But what I'm seeing is and you could absolutely take scale,
no known measurements of this place, you could get scale

(02:40:05):
on it. I would say that thing is every bit
of seven and a half to eight feet tall.

Speaker 1 (02:40:11):
It is very interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:40:13):
With the size of that thing, I would say it
probably is an excess of three hundred and fifty to
four hundred pounds.

Speaker 1 (02:40:20):
So I'm going to read the story here, okay, so
that way we have kind of a perspective of it.
The RCP reopened fully in twenty twenty or the gondola
Party reopened fully in twenty twenty one after a second
round of multimillion dollar repairs to replace the severed cable
and smashed gondola cars. Meanwhile, lawsuits stemming from the vandalism

(02:40:44):
continue to pile up in BC Supreme Court. See the
Sky Gondola Limited is suing Unified Systems, Inc. A company
that was hired to install security system after the first
camera cable was cut in twenty nineteen. Yeah, its response,
USI claims that the Sea to Sky Gondola did not

(02:41:06):
have the budget for the system. USI originally designed opting
for a version that was significantly paired back. It says
See the Sky Gondola failed to remove the gondola cars
from the suspension cable each night in order to give
them thermal cameras unobstructed views of the lift and towers,
failed to keep to keep the main cable running through

(02:41:28):
the night, and didn't put up barriers or remove ladders
from gondola bases and towers. USI has also filed a
third party claim against Black Tusk Fire and Security, Inc.
And land Back Monitoring. Yeah, this story is a big mess, okay,
because they are still trying to figure out CEE. The
Sky Gondola has doubled its reward offer from two hundred

(02:41:50):
and fifty thousand to half a million dollars in order
to get to tips leading to a conviction. But to me,
if you look at that photo closely, you could go
to CBC dot ca a forward slash news or type
in see the Sky Gondola Sabat sabotage mystery. You can
check out this photo for yourself and to me, the

(02:42:13):
size of the legs, the size of the arms, no neck,
kind of a pointy head. It looks like a sasquatch
to me.

Speaker 2 (02:42:22):
You'd be the guy to ask about that. I mean,
you know me, Dave, I'm not one of the guys
that go out in the middle of the woods looking
for something that's that big, that just no, that goes.
I have problems with that kind of stuff. For you
guys to go out in the middle of the woods
with with with bang sticks or not, don't care. Don't care.

(02:42:46):
That thing is the king of hide and go seek elevends.
It can boogie like like keep on trucking. And if
you ever get that thing mad, you're gonna be like,
you know, like the Hulk and Wolverine or he tore
the wall half and one half went that way and
the other half went that way. Now you're not getting
me out in the woods look for something like that now,

(02:43:07):
especially now that I know that it can that it
can run a cutting torch. That's just wow. Hey, I
got a story about an animal, Dave. My old thumping
guns down in Huntington beach Man. There was this dog
called Sugar, the surfing dog. It was the first dog
ever inducted into the Surfers Hall of Fame. Five time

(02:43:32):
World Dog Surfing champion Sugar was found as astray there
on the beach and ended up being like a rescue
dog for the lifeguards there at Huntington Beach, and poor
little sixteen year old Sugar passed away. Ah yeah, but

(02:43:53):
you can still go back and watch that little furry,
little white canine go bananas of a board. Is so
cool to watch. It was so cool to watch. But
first dog ever inducted into the Hall of Fame, and
little Sugar is with us no more.

Speaker 1 (02:44:11):
Oh that's terrible.

Speaker 2 (02:44:13):
Yeah, yeah, I thought that was cool. But now look
here in Oregon where I live, you can within five minutes,
ten minutes and pretty much any direction you pick, you
can go find a waterfall. What a very iconic waterfall.
Here is a Bequa falls and it it it has

(02:44:34):
it almost looks like kind of the White Cliffs of
Dover turned upside down with a waterfall going through it,
if you can imagine that. But as of today it
was actually and I didn't know that you could do this,
it was put up for sale.

Speaker 1 (02:44:49):
A waterfall.

Speaker 2 (02:44:51):
A waterfall was put up for sale. The listing was
approved what it was for two point one million dollars,
and a bunch of lawmakers got together, And, believe it
or not, it's not every day that you see a
waterfall come up for saling, like Redfinn or realtor dot com.
But it's for real, And so a bunch of lawmakers

(02:45:16):
got together and they pointed up the two point one millie.
The waterfall is about thirty miles it's about thirty miles
east of Salem, so it's in between where I live
and Tim live here in Oregon, and it's kind of
a steep height to get to the place. But Dave,
it is astonishing. It's amazing. So I think what they're

(02:45:38):
going to do is they're thinking about putting a bed
and breakfast up there. How they're going to engineer that
up in I never believe it, But for once you
could have got on redfin and actually bought a waterfall.
I thought that was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (02:45:53):
I would never know, like I can see it if
it was on private land, But I didn't know you
could buy a waterfall me neither.

Speaker 2 (02:46:01):
Like if they ever put up my falls for sale,
that's gonna be cool, all right?

Speaker 1 (02:46:08):
Do you like chocolate? Terry?

Speaker 2 (02:46:10):
I am a chocoholic, Dave, are you kidding?

Speaker 1 (02:46:13):
All right? Well, you're gonna love this story. You will,
many people will. If you're listening and you love chocolate.
This is a great story for you. Chocolate products from
the company. Chocolate products from a California company have been recalled.

(02:46:34):
This true story. They have been recalled. I've never heard
of chocolate being recalled before after they were found to
have been spiked with potentially dangerous ingredients used in viagra
and cialis. The San Francisco Bay Area gear Isle recalled

(02:46:54):
the products after they were found to contain undeclared prescription
drug ingredients used to treat erectile dysfunction. The US Food
and Drug Administration announced last week the products sold online
across the US were found to have sildentifhil and tadafo
what is that tadalophil, the ingredients that could cause a

(02:47:16):
life threatening drop in blood pressure when mixed with nitrates
found in prescription drugs. The two recalls products are Golden
Lyon Aphrodisiac chocolate male enhancement satchet and Ilum Sexual Chocolate
male sexual enhancement Booster. The FDA initially issued a warning

(02:47:37):
in February, advising consumers not to purchase the second item
after confirming the product contained to dalaphil. Men who use
nitrates to create cardiac conditions or to treat cardiac conditions
are most at risk when using these products, according to
the announcement, which urged customers who purchased the products to

(02:47:57):
stop using them immediately. The Ill Sexual Enhancement chocolate comes
in black packaging with yellow and white font that reads
male Sex Chocolate. The Golden Lion product is sold in
purple packaging. Gear Island specializes in adult novelties. The company's
website says the company doesn't make any of the products

(02:48:20):
it sells. According to the website, gear Isle has not
received reports of adverse reaction from these products. According to
the fb FDA announcement, the company has reached out directly
to customers to coordinate and return and refund so that
way their body parts don't explode.

Speaker 2 (02:48:40):
Terry, did you really say that it was spiked, babe?

Speaker 1 (02:48:47):
Isn't that the purpose You're eating this chocolate to get arousal.

Speaker 2 (02:48:56):
Male sex chocolate? Dude? Apparently it is. Oh, I'm a chocoholic,
but I don't think i've ever had that one in
my my nightstand. Dude, I really that's great. That's great.

Speaker 1 (02:49:15):
I thought it was too.

Speaker 2 (02:49:16):
So if there were supposed to be enhancement chocolates and
they have the enhancement ingredient in it, and what is
what's the problem.

Speaker 1 (02:49:27):
That's what I'm trying to figure out.

Speaker 2 (02:49:31):
I don't get it that I don't know. But you know,
you're talking about chocolate. Now, this is a big one
because Hershey, Hershey's chocolate, you know, Reze's peanut butter cuffs,
Hersey's chocolate bars, so forth. About eight months ago they

(02:49:54):
changed their recipe and it was noticeable for a chocolate
connoisseur such as myself, it was noticeable. But they came
back out today and they said that they're going to
go back to their old recipe, just like Coke did
back in the day. You remember when Coke and Pepsi

(02:50:14):
pulled that hole, like Pepsi Clear and Pepsi Blue and
Coke Yes went and changed their formula and everybody said
that it was the worst thing in the world. Basically,
the same thing happened to Reese's. But you know, honestly,
and I'm gonna make a lot of people mad with
this one, Dave. I've never really been a real fan
of Hershey's chocolate. I'm a Cadbury guy, always have been

(02:50:36):
a Cadbury guy. Hershey's just never was to my taste.
But public spoke up and Hershey's is coming back with
the good old stuff once again. But now there's a
weird story out of Japan, Dave, And this seconds all right.
So imagine this. You wake up one morning and you

(02:50:57):
see an eleven foot around forty two foot tall pipe
sticking up out of the ground that wasn't there or
the night before.

Speaker 1 (02:51:07):
Well, that's weird.

Speaker 2 (02:51:08):
It just a giant underground pipe rose more than thirty
two feet out of the construction site area in a
busy city near Osaka. And the only thing that stopped
it from rising even more was it ran into an
overhead bridge. But it just overnight, thirty two feet of
pipe came up out of the ground.

Speaker 1 (02:51:31):
Must have had some of that chocolate.

Speaker 2 (02:51:33):
We must have.

Speaker 1 (02:51:36):
We know where the we know where the chocolate viagra
went went to Osaka, Japan. Oh my goodness, Oh man, Terry,
I want to say a big thank you for coming
back on spaced Out Radio. I always have so much
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(02:51:57):
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