LET'S OPEN UP THE PORTAL TO THE PARANORMAL! ARE YOU READY?

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello and welcome to the radio and podcast side of
spaced Out Radio tonight. My name is Dave Scott. We're
gonna get into paranormal supernatural events. Brent Thomas from the
Paranormal Portal podcast is here. We call him b Arthur
around these parts because he's golden aggravated progressive. How you
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Ears tools so you can come in nurs.

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Ontogether, my friends.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
Oh, last time for space style radio with Dave.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Scott from the mountains of Central British Columbia to you
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an amazing time tonight from the Paranormal Portal podcast. Brent

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Thomas is here. We're gonna get into a lot of
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Dweller will join us with another spooky story. We'll follow
that up with our good friend Grant Baker and the
UFO Report. So let's get right to it, because I
always lead off the show by saying, so, let's get
right to it. So let's do that. Brent Thomas is

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as the creator and host of The Paradormal Portal podcast,
a popular platform dedicated to exploring the mysteries of ghosts, UFOs, Bigfoot,
and the unexplained. After experiencing a range of paradormal encounters firsthand,
Brent set out on a journey to better understand the
strange and unusual phenomena that shapes our world. Since launching

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the show in twenty sixteen, he has become a respected
voice in the paranormal community. Through engaging interviews with experiencers, researchers,
and authors, Brent dives deep into the unknown, uncovering stories
that challenge our understanding of reality. If you want to
check it on out, you can go to his website,
the Paranormal Portal, or you could go to his YouTube

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channel Paranormal Portal as well. That's where I go. I'm subscribed.
You should be too, Brent Thomas, How you doing, my friend?
Good to have you back on spaced Out Radio.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
Aw it's awesome to be back. Thanks for having me on.
I always like filling your extra charity of.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Oh you're never an extra chair, right, here man. This
is like you know, a VW bug. There's always room
in the VW bug to fit people in, even if
they're chubbing out of shape like me.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
Well, there's a reason where we're both in the bus. Dave.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Oh yes, oh yes, my friend. There is so much
going on in the world of the weird and strange.
I mean, you know, whether it's the Bigfoot of Patterson,
Gimblin hoax, whether it's UFOs, whether it's paranormal, because we're
getting into paranormal ghost hunting season and we're getting it's
like it's become a bunch of seasons now, you know

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what I'm saying. Winter's over. We've pushed that to the side.
The fair weather researchers are getting ready to head on
out and go find some ghosts, gools and goblets. It
really is getting getto that fun time of year.

Speaker 6 (04:55):
It is, I tell you, there's so much activity going
on right now. And that's crazy. When you know you're
hearing Lake in Ohio that that burst of sightings that
was going on with big foots that was a big
event or at least curious, and you know in that
so many people were seeing them and oddly enough they
all saw them heading the same direction, and then that

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asteroid thing or comment came down. It's like, Wow, is
there something going on? Is there some correlation to these events?
Notwithstanding the plethora, as you say, of reports that are
dealing with I give credit worse due with you know,
an increase in UFO sightings along with so many more

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haunting reports. So it does seem like there's something in
the air. And I don't know if it's some kind
of global biorhythm where that veil is now thinner and
more of this weirdness is happening if it's a raised
awareness in our part, but man, it's an active time,
it really is.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
And you know, it always seems to have these little spikes.
I don't know if you've noticed that, but these little
spikes that happen when we seem to get these troublesome
times in the world, all of a sudden, there's an
increase of UFO sightings, of Bigfoot sightings, people start having,
you know, paranormal activity. I think of you know, one

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of my right hand men, it's spaced out, Radio Terry Hall,
who all of a sudden the last couple of days
has had poltergeist activity at his house, you know, And
it just makes me wonder if somehow this is all
tied together, because maybe the world's energy isn't very good
right now, or maybe it's a little thin in the veil.
So shall we say, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (06:38):
Yeah, I don't know either, And it's You're right, though,
there is like an ebb and flow to this stuff.
There's periods of increased activity and events going on. But
I think maybe a big part of it is that.
And I don't pretend to be revolutionary in this thought,
but I think there is some merit to it that
there might be more stuff going on than ever before,

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but there might just be more people talking about it
than ever before because of the shows like Your Mind,
where people are able to connect with the information and
connect with communities of people that are having experiences, and
that's cross section of information is more broad and accessible
than ever before.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
You know what I mean, You have been podcasting on
the Paranormal Portal for ten years now. Hard to believe. Yeah,
you know, you're old, you know, you're antiquated in this field,
just like I am. Sure, what do you love about
doing it? What do you love about you know? Going
live with your listeners on your YouTube channel or your podcast,

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which could be down loaded on any major podcast network.
What do you love about this?

Speaker 6 (07:50):
I love that I love connecting with the people that
are haveving experiences a lot, and I love discussing this stuff.
And it's like, I'm very very monopolard in that I
only live, eat, and breathe this stuff. But I really,
I really do find it incredibly fascinating because there are

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so many people having experiences and it's really an honor
for me to connect with them and to be a
place where they want to come and share and talk
about what they've experienced and lived through and to maybe
help them in some measure or other, to connect some
dots or to just find that they're not alone, because
I think one of the things that's a real common

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thread through the paranormal is that when people have experiences,
they feel like they're all well alone, like there's no
And I've used this as example a lot, and I
apologize for any that are familiar with me, but if
your car breaks down, you can talk to anybody about
about it that you know, because everybody can relate to that.
It's like, oh, my transmission went out, it's everybody understands

(08:57):
what that means. They understand. They'll even have advice and
they'll have tips where you could take it and all
of this stuff. But if you tell you know, if
you if you're if you're laundry just shot off of
the bed by itself and spread around your room, where
do you go with that? I mean? Who can understand that?
And so people feel like they're in this bubble, like

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who can I talk to about this? And so I
love that there's, you know, this community of people that
I've been able to engage and become a part of,
to be accepted by and to be trusted by, to
share their stories to a bunch of other people. I
think that, to me is one of the most sincere
honors of my life because it is it is an

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act of bravery to bear your soul and to share
some of these things that maybe you've never talked about
it ever. I've talked to so many people that are like, oh,
you know, they do this big exhale and they're like,
oh my god, I've been carrying this for decades and
it feels like I just put down a load of bricks.
And to be part of that cathartic moment for them.
So that's really my favorite part.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
It's one of my favorite parts too, is being able
to get into a genuine story. I could have all
the researchers that I want on this show, but what
really stands out for me is when I have someone
who is blatantly on honest about what happened to them,
and you know, and it's not just a one time affair.
When you have somebody who has had multiple experiences, maybe

(10:28):
it's multiple experiences with gray aliens or Bigfoot or dog
man or or something. When it gets personal, you know,
you get a dog man that's, you know, knocking at
your door at night, or or aliens that are now
not only taking you, but they're taking your children or
your grandchildren or whatever, and it does happen. Okay, when

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you can get somebody to tell you just the most
frightful stories that they have to live this nightmare every day,
and you know it's true because you can hear the
trembling in their voice, you can hear the nervousness of
how they deliver it. I think that is some of
the best stories. If I could do a show strictly

(11:13):
on stories like that, just talking to people, I think
our eyes would open up a lot more.

Speaker 6 (11:20):
Yeah, this the the emotional power in those stories is
just I mean, it's just raw, and it's and it's tangible.
And I think as as hosts, we've probably interviewed the
whole spectrum of people, both you and I and many
other of our friends and stuff. But there there are
these rare stories that come through that are so incredibly powerful,

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and they leave an impression on you, like you know
for a little while that you walked into this people's
experiences and they leave a mark on you. But you're right,
you know that what they're saying is is honest and true.
That there's one time I was interviewing this gentleman who

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was the most one of the most intelligent people I've
ever talked to, and he was a professional banker, investment
banker and a very successful guy. And he came on
my show and talked about his abductions and and it
was so incredibly powerful that this man, who was a
very professional and established an esteemed person, was breaking down

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in tears and trembling during this experience because he was,
you know, this was thrust into his life and he
was having to try to find balance and and a
measure of sanity in that, and and it's really incredible
that people have been through such things. I mean, I've
been through a lot of experiences, but I've only been

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truly terrified on it, like one or two of them,
and the rest of them were like, oh, that's weird.
But this man was absolutely trembling and zed by these
ongoing experiences that he had no control over when was
going to happen, how it was going to happen, and
what was going on in his life when it happened.

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It's not like he could schedule them. He was being
taken and things were happening to him that were just
beyond measure and beyond reason and honestly beyond sanity. But
he was still there, and he was still as together
as he was. I was really really impressed.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
One of the stories that sticks out for me from
the past was a gentleman probably eleven I'm on eleven
year eleven now, so probably ten and a half years ago.
I had this gentleman show up in my chat room
and all he would say is high. For weeks and
weeks and weeks, all the only thing he would say

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is high. And then it became high Dave, how you doing?
You know, because I acknowledged the audience prior to the show,
and in our chat rooms, I say hi to everybody,
at least I try to. Sometimes I miss. And after
about four months he was like, I need to talk

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with you. I was like, okay. So he sent me
an email just basically telling me how he was a
prison guard in a maximum security prison filled with murderers
and the worst scum of the earth, and out of nowhere,
he started being taken by aliens and it got to

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the point where it was happening multiple times a week
and he was not sleeping, he was too scared to
go to sleep, Like he was not having good encounters. Okay,
like he got the short end of the stick when
it came to the to the nightmarish encounters that we
talked about, the needles, the surgeries, the you know, being

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on craft, didn't surrounded and gagged and all of this
kind of horrible, horrible stuff, to the point where he
was ready to say that's enough, if you know what
I'm talking about. And somehow he found my show because
he couldn't go to his bosses because of where he

(15:19):
worked it would cost him his career. Well, he had
a mortgage, he had a wife and family to take
care of, and and he didn't know what to do.
And I was the only one he could turn to.
And our audience ended up being in our chat rooms,
ended up being people he could he could talk to

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because he had no one. His wife didn't believe him,
and because she was sleeping right beside him, he couldn't
talk to his coworkers. He did try, but they would
all start the laughter and oh, it's just stress from
the job, you know, and all of this, And it wasn't.
It wasn't. And I will never forget, you know, hearing him.

(16:01):
I never put him on the air. I never put
him on the air, but I wanted to, but that
was up to him. He said no, I just don't
want to do that. But I remember his story well,
and I know he still listens because usually when I
tell his story, which is once about once a year
or so, okay, I I will get a message from saying, hey, thanks,

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thanks good, it's good that you still remember, and all
that kind of stuff. So but that was the one
that really really probably hit me hard.

Speaker 6 (16:34):
Yeah, man, poor guy. Again, it's exactly a thing where
do you go? You know, when you find you find
that your life's turned upside down, it's like, all of
a sudden, your peer group is no longer able to relate,
and you know that, and if you try to tell them,
it's you know, And I think it's so many people

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that have experiences try to talk to the people that
are close to them because that's their safe space. That's
the place where they can talk and they can share.
But there's some things that's just most people that are
outside of that experience window just can't wrap their heads around.
And it's no fault to their own it's just how
do you Because the people in the experience can't wrap

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their heads around it either, but they have nowhere to go.
So it's really cool that you know, these shows are
our shows are there, and that these people find that
it's a safe harbor. It's a place where they can
release and at least try to process and maybe find
people that can share understanding and help them cope. I

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think that's very powerful.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
I get a lot of people who will often ask,
including when I'm interviewed by one of the co hosts
or fill in hosts for Walter M. Sterling on on
WPHT in Philadelphia, and the question I get asked the most,
and I'll ask you this question. There's a lot of

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people out there who are very skeptical for one reason
or another, about Bigfoot, about aliens, about UFOs, about ghosts.
They think it's all a bunch of sci fi imagination.
How do you deal with that? How do you break
down the skeptic.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
I think, you know, one of the things that I've
I've come to terms with myself is that I'm not
doing my shows for the skeptics. You know, it's if
they don't believe, that's fine, then they're probably not going
to tune in anyway, just because whatever I've got to
offer them is not gonna resonate with them. I do
my shows for the believers, the people that are either

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experiencing these things, are curious or want to maybe come
to an understanding and will look together. Because I'm not
claiming I have answers, but you know, it's there's always
there's always going to be people that will close you out,
even if you know, I mean, and I'm I'm not
poking fun at anybody, but I mean there's a flat

(19:02):
earth movement, and you know, even though there's you know,
there's arguments on both sides. But if if you take
a flat Earth and tell them the Earth is round,
they're going to say no. And if you tell around
Earth or the Earth is flat, they're going to say no.
And so I think people just will exist in their
paradigm and there's not much we can do about it.

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So rather than for me personally, I just don't expend
much energy on the non believers because they're not why
I'm doing what I'm doing. I'm doing it for the
people that want to explore this and want to you know,
understand or come to research it and discuss it and
share ideas. And that's that's the people to get me excited.
You know, there's going to be skeptics. There's you know,

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skeptics every major religion there's skeptics of it and every
you know, no matter what, there's there's whatever side you're
on about anything, there's people on another side that don't
agree with you. And that's kind of the human dynamic.
So I don't see that ever changing, and I can't
expend energy worrying about them. I would love for everybody
to see these things like I do. I really would

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because I think these things are exciting, and I think
it's demonstrating something incredible that we can learn from and
might help us understand the dynamics of our universe and
our reality. And because these aren't glitches, these are breadcrumbs,
and if we follow them, we might learn a whole lot.
But I can't expect them to share that enthusiasm.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
So I used to get into it. I used to
want to get into it with them. It's kind of
like the feisty side of me, where it'd be like,
why are you paying attention if you don't believe? Why
are you paying attention? Why can you not have an
open mind that there could be something in the forest,
Like I look where I live. We don't have people

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running thirty kilometers or twenty five miles into the forest
just to plant a footprint in somewhere so far out
there that it's going to get it's going to make,
you know, somebody, a story or something like that. I
got those guys with a big footprint, you know. I

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went twenty five miles down the road, and then I
took a side trail, and then a goat trail, then
a gully that up the hill, down the hill. You know,
it's not like that, you know, I mean, I find
it funny because the majority of the skeptics that I
have found out, and this is why I just kind
of give an eye roll and say, hey, at least

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you listened. At least you listen, Thanks for listening. Don't
forget to hit subscribe, right. But I started having that
attitude because I realized something, Brent. The majority of the skeptics,
they're not in the forest. They don't go outside to
look up at the sky, okay, And if something strange

(21:52):
does happen around them, they are usually the first ones
to say, that's my cat, that's my dog, that's my dishwash, Sure,
that's the house settling, because it is a safety guard
for what their belief is, whether that belief is fear
of the unknown, religiously, or maybe they just want to

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make sure that they don't have an overactive imagination. They
don't want to accept any sort of reality with it.
So I just decided one day, I, as rude as
this may sound, I don't care anymore. I don't care.
You know, if you if you don't want to believe,
don't believe, that's you're I'm okay.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
With that.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
I'm okay with that.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
So just be you, man, just be you, and people
will defend their paradigm just voraciously because that's their safe place,
that's the place where their world makes sense. And so
if you say, well, that's not really the whole truth
of the world, there's more to it there, Like there

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isn't more truth, I think, more accept what I believe.
That just couldn't be further from the truth. The world's big,
and it's and it's full of possibility and and and
But you'll never convince somebody that doesn't want to believe.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Oh, that's very true. That is very true, and there
is no point. There is no point to it. But
I will say this though, I do sometimes like getting
a little salty. You know, somebody comes in your show sucks,
makes a comment online your show sucks. Thank you, I

(23:29):
appreciate it. But you know what, it sucks so bad
that you listened. You listened, even if it was fifteen
minutes or less. You listen, you know. But imagine the
strength it has to take for somebody who hates your
show that much, or hates the programming, or doesn't believe
it ghoes or UFOs. Imagine how it's strength. It has

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to take them in order to type out that comment.
That's what I love. Oh, that's what Also.

Speaker 6 (23:59):
The hate that will tune in regularly and listen to
your whole show just to hear what they hate next,
it's like what you're still listening?

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Absolutely, bred, I'm gonna get you to hold on right
now because we are going to go to break. Brent
Thomas is here from the Paranormal Portal Podcast. You could
download it on a every major podcast network. You could
go hit subscribe on his YouTube channel, the Paranormal Portal Podcast,
and of course he will be speaking at Caribou Con

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twenty twenty six this September eighteen through twentieth, right here
in my hometown. Just that way, all right, buddy, we're clear.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
Cool. It was a rousing first half hour, brother rowsing.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
We're gonna get to audience questions coming up here an
hour two or the second half hour. Everybody. By the way,
I got commercials now. My videographer Mike makes me look good,
so you have to wait till the top of the
hour to see them. They're really good. Oh good, I
can't wait to see it. Yeah, that'll be great. Yeah,
that's cool. Are you growing the mustache back before September?

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Are you're gonna go naked? Lip blade?

Speaker 7 (25:18):
There?

Speaker 6 (25:21):
I might just go nude, Mike go topless.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Oh jesus, that's scary. That's scary. One of our favorite
people's in the chat room tonight, the cryptid huntress, Jessica Jones.
Love her, love her.

Speaker 6 (25:40):
Oh yeah, I've always meant to get in touch with her,
Jessica Jones. I want to get in touch with you.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah. She's a fantastic interview. She's just not good at
everything she does.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
Very cool, very cool.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
She is damn good for everything that she does. That's
some good questions. What's that I know?

Speaker 6 (26:07):
I see that there's a tough I said. I've caught
a few of her shows and they're really well done.
Is really nice job.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
She is very good.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
She is one of my favorite people in this entire field.
And I'm so proud of of everything she has accomplished.

Speaker 6 (26:26):
Oh for sure, she's doing great stuff. I see all
these questions coming in too. Well, I'm gonna be busy.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
You're gonna be busy. Yeah, they want to be Arthur.
Remember remember it doesn't have to hurt, It doesn't have
to hurt.

Speaker 6 (26:46):
So early. Uh huh, oh, that's a that's probably you
must yeah, now that you think about it, Sandra, there

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you're you're it's spreading, Dave. You're you're creating a.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Reagan Bogan Kreeger. How are you doing tonight?

Speaker 6 (27:19):
Just just to just to spread spread the share on this.
My nickname for Dave is Betty White.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Hey, I got I got some love in here earlier too.
I gotta find it here. Where is it here? Okay?
Hold on? I got love to somebody actually loved me
in the chat room. Where's the comment? When I saw it,
I was like, ah, shucks, shucks, Oh.

Speaker 6 (27:46):
Yeah, I love you, Dave.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
It was from Amy Aloe. Amy Alo showed me some
love in the chat room. She's like, I love you, Dave,
I love you. And I'm like, I love you back, Amy.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
Hello, no dry probing. Mel says, yeah, that wouldn't that
would not be good.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Magnus for Magnus. And how you doing? Oh Jessica, thank you.
I need a haircut bad. I need a haircut bad. Yeah,
it's getting you have very thick hair, don't you. I'm
taking off the beard. I've decided I am taking off
the beard. I'm going I'm gonna like, I'm not gonna

(28:29):
go fully no beard, but I'm gonna get rid of
this part.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, I have a reason. I have a reason, but
I got to keep it to me right now. Okay, okay,
but I'll be honest with you, dude. Now, I'll just
be honest. Look at this, Look at FAP here. I
confuse Dave with Rosie O'Donnell. Wow, that's all right. I

(29:00):
think Rosie has FAP is a cross breed between Joy
Behar and Whoopee Goldberg. He's about as funny too, although
that one was good. No, no, no, man, I'm I'm
tired of looking old. Oh makes me look old. Yeah,

(29:22):
So I'm here to tell you I color my hair.
My hair is all whiteless, like I may color it,
and I may I may have a beard and color
it just because I can. Spiraling sixty nine? How you doing?
How you doing? And it's going to motivate me to
get back in the gym and go pump some weights again.

Speaker 6 (29:43):
Good for you?

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, because I'll see this big double chin hanging out here.
Arcan How you doing?

Speaker 6 (29:51):
Big?

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Thank you tonight to Mickey and Kitty, Thank you very much.
For the super chats. It's a wonderful way to support
what we do on this show on a nightly basis,
you know. But I also I have to grow it
again though, because Von Patrick, who is coming to Parrot
or Caribou Con, says he will pay to shave my beard.
So hold on, here we go. Oh all right, here

(30:30):
comes the second half hour spaced Out Radio. My name
is Dave Scott. We appreciate you tuning us on in
wherever you are on this beautiful planet. We call hear hey.
We want to remind all of you before we bring
in Brent Thomas again to talk some paranormal stuff. Yeah,
that's what we call it in the technical term stuff.

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Space Travelers Club. Here we go from the Paranormal Portal podcast.
We have Brent Thomas coming on in to talk about
all paranormal supernatural. We're going to take audience questions right
off the bat. Here, Brent, so thank you very much
for joining us. We're going to start off with Edwin here,
says Uncle Dave. That would be me. What does Brent,

(31:34):
that's you think about having a remote viewer view the
recent Oklahoma incident for details?

Speaker 6 (31:43):
I think it is a great idea. I think, you know,
why not throw every resource that is possible at at
it and try to figure out if there's something bigger
going on there, if there's here's the thing with bigfoot.
I've always had the suspicion that wait, he says, Oklahoma, Wait.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
A minute, Okay, I was thinking you were thinking about
how it Sorry, have you heard the Oklahoma incident?

Speaker 6 (32:12):
Well, refresh my memory? What is it?

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Okay, this just happened a few days ago. A lady
is in hospital. Okay, she was, she was outside. I'm
just gonna explain for our audience who may not have
heard this. So this lady in Oklahoma, she was literally
at her front porch or something like that, trying to,
you know, get home after looking for a job all day.

(32:36):
Her husband is in hospital, in dire need of a
kidney transplant. I believe he's on dialysis. Things are not
looking good, and she's decided she needs to go back
to work because you know, there's medical bills to cover.
And she gets home, she is on her patio and
as she's going to her door, she hears this deep

(32:57):
growl right behind her, and then all of a sudden,
something attacks her. And she's got bite marks all over
her plate, all over her body, I mean to the
point where it may end up causing her to lose
an arm. Her body was just absolutely trashed and thrashed
by whatever this is. And the local police chief actually

(33:21):
went on the local news saying, we can't figure out
what kind of animal did this because it does not
match this type of attack, does not match any predator
species in our area, which it would have left at
least some sort of track. So now the question is

(33:44):
what actually attacked her, because if it wasn't anything from
the local area, was it something of a cryptid like
a dog man or a werewolf for bigfoot, or a gugway,
or was it something more natural? Because in the US
a lot of states allow people to keep exotic pets.

(34:08):
Sometimes those pets escape or people pass away and they
just let them off into the wild. Was it a tiger,
Was it a lion, Was it a panther? You know,
I mean, there's a lot of things that are in
question here right now.

Speaker 6 (34:26):
Yeah, yeah, I think I think having a remote we
we're looking at that experience would be great. And I
know everybody after it was, after it happened, that was
the first assumption everybody jumped to. It must have been
a dog man, must be a dog man. And it
was described by the lady as dog like, So whatever
it was was was similar to a dog, I guess.

(34:47):
But when you hear dog man reports, they are similar
to dogs. They have the canid features, the snouts, you know,
the whole, the whole nine yards, but different enough that
you can't really confuse the two generally speaking. So I
think having remote you really look into it, having psychics
look into it along with forensic and all other possibilities

(35:10):
is great because I think it's really, really, really important
to find out what did this, because this is an
ongoing danger to everybody in that area until they figure
out what the hell it is. So it's not something
where I think it's safe or good, good or advisable
to just arrest on, well that happened, who that sucks.

(35:31):
I think they have to find answers, and I think
that you exhaust every variable and every possibility you have,
because who's next, Who's next? What if it's just you know,
some well anybody, it doesn't matter. But I'm just thinking
of like how easy a target would a kid be? Yeah? No,
and you know this is going to get solved absolutely,

(35:51):
so use everything we got.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Well, I mean, here's the thing, though, we have a
history of police not telling us what went on when
it could be something strange. It harkens me back to
the story a few years ago from North Dakota where
that little boy was taken from his yard. He was
gone for two and a half days. He was only

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like three four years old. It was wintertime, and he
was found in a briar patch where the police had
already checked and search and rescue had checked four or
five times. And when they finally heard the boy and
found him in this brier patch along this path that
they had gone past numerous times, they brought him out.

(36:37):
There was no scratches, there was no hypothermia, there was
no anything towards his health. And when they when they
asked him, where were you, this little boy came out
and said, the big teddy bear kept me warm at night. Well,
if you know bears, okay, because a lot of people

(37:01):
thought bear right off the bat. A bear is not
going to feed that boy berries or anything. Okay, A
bear is going to be if you've ever you know, statistically,
if you go look at the stats of bears, they're
very angry when they wake up from early in hibernation.
They're hungry. They're angry, and they would be looking for

(37:24):
a meal. A child at four years old would be
a meal and a free meal at that A bear
isn't going to cuddle a child and then put them
in the middle of a briar patch. We know it
was a bigfoot, they just don't want to admit it.
There was no signs of human interaction with that boy.

(37:45):
And then when you take this case now of the
lady at Oklahoma on whatever attacked or sure, could it
have been one of those very large breeded dogs that
you know, like bigger that are bigger and one than
a great dane? Okay, sure is there somebody around that
area that has a dog that size? Probably not, but

(38:09):
you never know. Some of these mastiffs could get to
two hundred pounds plus so could it have been one
of those I don't know your thoughts spread.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
Yeah, I think I think there's there's any number of possibilities.
Wasn't that Where was that tiger guy, that weird tiger
guy that had that TV show? Wasn't he around Oklahoma?
Or was he somewhere else? I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah, he was around.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
I was like, huh, yeah, So I wonder if I
had heard reports alleged that some of his tigers had
gotten away and you know, after his passing, and somebody
else was taking care of him, and there's reports of
them maybe not sticking around with the people that were
supposed to be taken care of him, and so I mean,

(39:01):
there's so many eventualities, but all of them are are
absolutely terrifying because whatever this is, even if it's just
a dog, just some kind of feral dog that's you know,
doesn't like people, whatever, wants to attack them, they need
to solve it. The little Boy one, I think is
interesting too. And of course, yeah, they're not going to
give us the especially if it's if it's beyond established science,

(39:24):
so they're not going to give us the release of Oh,
it's got really big feet and it was, well, we
could only find what looked like bipedal tracks. They're never
going to tell us that because that's an admission that's
no official body is ever going to make. They're just
not gonna not gonna feed us that kind of truth.

(39:44):
But I think everybody has a right to know. With
that little boy, that was a hell of a case
and very interesting. And after hearing that is, as soon
as that story broke, I was like, my god, because
I think the boy was more like more like two
or maybe some thing like that, but he was very,
very young, and he said the bear took care of him,

(40:06):
as you said, And instantly it hit me. It's like, well,
of course, a little two year old's probably not gonna
have a vocabulary to say it was a bigfoot. It
was just something big and fluffy, so it must have
been a bear. And that was what he could that's
what he could verbally articulate. But yeah, I thought the
same thing exactly. It's like, that's got to be a
big foot. That's got to be a big foot that

(40:27):
took that little boy and took care of him. And
thank god, you know, I mean, what a what an
amazing ending to it would otherwise be a nightmare. But
you know, certainly my thoughts and prayers and hopes go
out to that lady and her family, and absolutely she's yeah,
what a horrible, horrible thing. And she didn't doesn't sound
like she did anything to provoke it. It was just

(40:49):
it was just chose her and and and didn't care.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
So she had her back to it.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
Yeah, she was trying to run too shelter because it growled,
and then she took off and ran as far as
she could, but then she got boom, She got taken
from behind, and it just chewed on her a bunch.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah, horrible. That's not horrible thing. That's not fun, you know.
All right, let's get to another question here. This one
comes from Grandiser Bret. Can you tell us how your
journey has changed from when you first started and now
a decade later. Any interviews that really stood out for
you gave you the chills, good or bad?

Speaker 7 (41:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (41:34):
I mean I will tell you. For me personally, I
think the biggest thing for me that's changed was when
I startted this and I don't I don't know. I
thought I thought I knew this stuff. I thought I
knew it. I was like, yeah, I'm ready, I can
do this show. I've been learning about this stuff for years,
and I've been absorbing and reading and studying everything I

(41:56):
could find on the subject for a long time, and
I felt like I was full prepared. And then I
started and I started talking to people and realized I
didn't know anything. I didn't know a thing, and how
much bigger this stuff is once you start looking into it.
And then you know, when I first started, everything was

(42:17):
in its neat little compartment. There was UFO alien, there
was cryptozoology, there was ghosts, and then there was strange phenomena.
It was all in its nice category. But then as
you hear the stories and you realize the lines get
really blurry between them, and sometimes sometimes alien stuff is
just like a haunting, and sometimes haunt things are just

(42:38):
like aliens. And then there's the wu factor of the
cryptid stuff, and you realize that there's so much undefined
with all of this, and how big it gets and
overwhelming it gets that this is not just a neat,
little niche category. This is something huge and amazing going on.
So for me, that was my personal evolution, was going

(43:01):
from this kind of a place of arrogance really like,
I know this stuff. I could talk about this all
day long, and then realizing I knew nothing, and hearing
the reports from people and I think, you know, the
the UFO abductee that that I talked about a little
bit ago was one of the most poignant interviews I

(43:22):
ever did. And another one was dealing with the vampires,
which I think I've talked about here on the show before,
but but that one. I'd been looking and looking and
looking and trying to find things about vampires because I
really wanted to cover it on a show, but I
wanted to be experiences, like are people still experiencing this
and what are they experiencing? And I could. I did

(43:42):
research and research and research, and I found stories from
the sixteen hundreds and you know, the old world accounts
of vampires and you know what people experience. And then
I found a ton of the counterc culture, goth kind
of movement where people are blueing thangs on and drinking
blood and they were vampires. And I was like, man,
I can't find anything. And I looked and looked and

(44:03):
looked and looked for a long time, and then finally
got an email from a guy. His name is Phil
and he said, I'm not going to tell you what
happened to me, but I'm going to tell you. I'm
not going to tell you what I think happened to me,
but I'm going to tell you what happened, and can
you please tell me what you think? And I read
it and it was like and I felt like kind

(44:24):
of uncomfortable, but I'm like, oh my god. In my response,
I'm like, oh my god, but I know this is
going to sound crazy, but I think you encountered a vampire.
And then he wrote back and said, oh my god,
thank you for saying that. I've been trying to figure
out how to talk about this. And then I had
him on the show and he told these stories that
were so incredibly powerful and unnerving, you know, but it

(44:48):
was it was having that moment of connection of looking
for someone that could bring a real world experience or
experiences in this case and come on the show and
talk about it. So that to me was an incredable interview,
but for a different reason than the abductee is. And
I think both of them are very real phenomenos, all
of them are, but it's just that was a personal

(45:10):
goal of mine of finding somebody to interview you about
vampires and then to be reached out out on the
blue by this person. It's like, here's what I experienced,
what do you think it is? And then to go, wow,
this is maybe the real thing. So that to me
was a personal achievement that I was really happy about
because I looked for it and it found me. You know,
so very cool experiences.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Let's go to another one brand out of all the monsters, encryptids,
which do you wish were proven to exist to the
mainstream without a shadow of a doubt? Would you like
that or prefer to stay in the mystery.

Speaker 6 (45:46):
Here's the thing. I think that a lot of people
that have experiences really deserve that those experiences would be
maybe not ath indicated, but maybe certified, like what they
experienced is a real phenomena that's out there. I would
love that they would have that closure, that and that ability. However,
I know that that if we ever officially come out

(46:10):
and say, hey, look, Bigfoot's real. They came out and
said it's absolutely real, it's out there, I think that
it would create a domino effect that might forever alter
what peace and space of the world that they have left.
Because as soon as that's authenticated. Every everybody is going
to pack their family into the into the family truckster

(46:33):
and head out to the wild places to look to
see a big foot of their own. And I think
that that is is inevertently going to put a lot
of pressure on what might already be a very fragile
population of beings that are surviving with our absence, not
with our presence, but with our absence, and that once
everybody starts run into the wild places, that it may

(46:54):
be pushing families out of you know, traditions of hundreds
or thousands of years of following a pattern of of
you know, foraging and gathering and stuff. Well suddenly there's
you know, hundreds of new people coming out looking for them,
and it might throw them into the abyss, so to speak,
and we would end up destroying what we love. So

(47:15):
it's kind of kind of a double edged sword. Yeah,
I'd like there to be authentication for those that have
experienced it and deserve to be able to say, look,
it's real, I experienced something real. But then again, I
would hate to see that admission destroy whatever these things
are because they are a part of our world and
I think they deserve to be here, and it's not
like we get to eradicate everything we don't understand. So

(47:39):
that's my two takes on it, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
I'm torn and conflicted with this answer. I really am
not your answer, but this question had my answer to it.
I'm going to sound like a real jerk here because
I host this show and I talk about this all
the time. I look at what television did to the
paranormal field, okay, I look at what the last number

(48:12):
of years has done to the UFO world, and I
don't like it. And I just hope and pray the
cryptied world can escape from this. Yes, there's cryptid bigfoot
television shows out there, okay, from not finding Bigfoot to
you know, expeditions Bigfoot or whatever it's called. There are

(48:36):
a lot of them out there, but they never find anything.
They may get a hit on thermal, but you never
know if that's actually a Bigfoot or just the producer
out there taking a whiz. Okay, like you don't know.
I don't really want it to be found, not because
I'm being selfish, but because I don't want the hunters

(49:00):
going in there. I don't want, you know, the trophy
hunters going in I don't want people getting out there
to ruin their environments and you know, think that it's
this big hairy ogre much like you know Shrek, but
with hair, and they go want to torch their village

(49:23):
or their or their caves or wherever they live. I
like the fact that I get to do something, you know,
on a selfish note. Never mind this show, but when
I'm out in the forest looking for Bigfoot, I like
the fact that I am in an area where they're
there and I don't have to take anybody there. I

(49:47):
don't have to disturb anybody. It's my little thing that
I do. You know what I'm saying. I get to
be selfish with it, and I want that to continue.
I really do.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. I think you know
it's it's it's a it becomes kind of a connection
of sorts that they probably know you're there, but they've
come to become used to you being there, and they've
accepted that you're there, and that's that's kind of become
in balance. But you're right, if you know, if a
bunch more people came, it would destroy that. Yeah, that's

(50:23):
that's the that's the the liability of disclosure, I guess,
you know, especially for them with the UFO, I don't
think it probably affects the overall picture of it because
they're not really incumbent upon what we think or what
we think they are, or we can't crowd them or whatever,
because they could just do their UFO stuff and disappear.
But something like and maybe Bigfoot can too. And I'm

(50:46):
not saying they couldn't be supernatural as well. I'm just
saying I don't really understand that, but I do allow
for the possibility. But if they are, if they are
a tangible biological being that's anchored in this planet, whatever
they are, might be hanging on very tenuously to what
you know, foothold they have left, and that pressure could
be devastating them and their environment. Yeah, absolutely sure.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
That's the scary part is what is it going to
do to their environment?

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Right?

Speaker 1 (51:19):
That's where yeah, it gets a little Yeah, we got
time for one more question here before we got to
go to break. Here, Brent, if you could interview one
person on your Paranormal Portal podcast section that you never had,
who would it be. This could be either a VIP
guest or an expert on the topic that have yet
to be interviewed.

Speaker 6 (51:40):
You know, I think it would be great to have
Jessica Jones on. Uh, that would be wonderful, you know,
I I I here's the thing, you know, I've I've
certainly enjoyed interviewing some of the some of the quote
unquote celebrity people that I have, and they've been wonderful people,

(52:00):
and I really appreciate that they came on and had
a discussion with me. And I've interviewed lots of you know,
just every day people like myself, and I've enjoyed all
of those conversations. So I'm not I'm not actively like
looking for the name or you know, that kind of
thing anymore, because honestly, some of my best performing shows

(52:22):
have been you know, Joe Average, who had some incredible experiences.
They weren't when I interviewed George norri or or Ronnie
LeBlanc or any other number of people that I've interviewed.
Those weren't the big shows for me. So if I'm
looking at it performatively, my best shows are when I'm
talking to every day people having very real experiences. And

(52:45):
so I realized that chasing names for this, at least
for me and my audience doesn't seem to matter. But
what I'm most interested in talking to our people that
have very real experiences that they want to share and
want to bring to the table. I think that, to
me is most powerful. And it sounds maybe like a
cop up, but I couldn't be more sincere. Like I

(53:08):
did think for a long time, look, if I could
just get this person on the show, it'll really make
things expand and grow for me. And and it didn't.
And it's not because these names weren't weren't wonderful, and
they didn't. We didn't have a great talk, because we did,
But it was just that my listeners are much like me.
They're wanting to understand the events, not necessarily as much

(53:31):
focused on who had them, you know. So certainly there's
people I'd love to talk to, like George Knapp. I'd
love to talk to Area fifty one guy. I'm so
terrible with themes of the personal dyslexia of mine, Thank you,
Bob Lazare. I would think it would be amazing. I
have the contact information for Trapas Walton, and I talked

(53:53):
to him and he said he'd come on, but I
haven't reached out to him yet. But you know, there's
lots of amazing people in all of these fields. Like
you know, any of the investigators looking for ghost stuff
would be fun to talk to, just because it'd be
neat to hear their experiences. But I'm okay if it's
just people like you and me that I want to

(54:15):
come forward and beyond. So I hope that answers it.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
That's a beautiful answer. That's a beautiful answer, it really is.
I want I would love to interview Robert Bigelow. That's
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Speaker 6 (01:02:33):
It's great being here brother, Thanks again for having me back.
I love being here with you.

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Tell everybody where they can find your show, Well, you
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My show shows. Well, there's First of all, let me differentiate.
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also a podcast which is audio only and is available
on all the podcasting applications. So it's too distinctly different
shows with the same name name, which is probably stupid
on my part, but that's just how I roll. And
you can find out information of all of those if

(01:03:25):
you go to paranormal Portal dot net and that's my
homepage for the Paranormal Portal, and hopefully it'll help you
find the information you need, connect with me on social media's,
or find the shows themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Love it, Good job, good job. We've got some audience
questions here for you to start off with. Aggravated here, Brent,
what was your scariest haunted house experience?

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Who?

Speaker 6 (01:03:51):
Probably this is a tough one for me because so far,
I'm saying, so far, I'm not trying to sound arrogant,
I'm not sound trying to sound like a like a
you know, he man, I'm not scared of nothing kind
of thing, because I'm sure I can and probably will
be scared eventually, But so far in my investigation and

(01:04:13):
in my own experiences, I have not experienced anything that
made me feel frightened. I've experienced plenty of activity, but
I haven't experienced anything that made me go, oh, I'm afraid.
And I don't know why that is for sure. Maybe
it's the fact that whatever was doing the disruption wasn't

(01:04:35):
given off that evil vibe because that would change things,
of course. But whatever happened, they happened, and I found
it fascinating. Really, So, I've experienced lots of different things.
There was one that kind of creeped me out, though,
and this was I think having to do probably mostly
because I was, you know, not dressed at the time.

(01:04:56):
And this is where I I It was in my
former marriage prior to the one that I'm in now.
It was before head kids or pets or anything, and
my wife and I worked kind of different different shifts
where I would work usually more early, and she would
work kind of the nine to five thing. But essentially,

(01:05:16):
my ex wife had a habit, and I'm sure it
was because of her undying love, but she loved to
do dishes exactly when I was going to shower, and
the water pressure was such that if she did dishes
I didn't get heat, and I don't think she was
doing it intently. She just like, oh the dishes me doing,

(01:05:37):
I'm going to do it now. So I would, you know,
always wrestle with that. But one time I beat her
home and we lived in this house. It was a
brand new house, but it was built on this land
that had never had a house before. But it probably
had a history because something was definitely there. We've heard
a lot of things happening. But anyway, I beat her home.
One time.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
I got.

Speaker 6 (01:05:58):
Home and I was excited because I worked in a
factory and I was absolutely dirty. I used to fabricate
countertops and stuff, and so I got home. I was
all dusty and dirty. I'm like, oh, I'm going to
lock up the house and get in the shower before
she gets home. This is gonna be great. So I
got in and I was just basking in all the
hot water that I ever could have wanted. I got
all lathered up and stuff, and the broom, the bathroom

(01:06:20):
doors locked, the house is locked. It's just me home.
And suddenly I'm slathered up and I'm full of bubbles
and I'm ready, just in this moment of bliss and
all of a sudden, the water went ice cold, like no.
I thought, oh my god, she must have got home,
she must have started doing this. So it's like frantically
washing off with you know, the in cold water, which

(01:06:41):
just wrecked my mood and wrecked my moments. But I
got all rinsed off and I was like and I
was done, and I shut off the water and I'm
like hearing water, and I'm like, what the hell, what's
going on? Why am I hearing water? And I pulled
open the shower curtain and the sink, which is, you know,
literally three feet away from me, was blasting hot water
like something had turned on that tap. All the way

(01:07:04):
there's steam coming up and stuff. And I was like, now,
I don't know that it was not necessarily a terrifying experience,
but there was something about being naked and in that
moment that felt really creepy, like something was in there
with me. And I didn't like that at all. But
that was my creepiest experience personally.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Scariest experience for me happened when I was probably twenty
one years old. Twenty twenty one years old, I worked
in a hockey rink that was haunted ooh, Oh dude,
the things that we would hear in there at night.

Speaker 7 (01:07:48):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
It was absolutely creepy, absolutely creepy and grotesque. At times,
it would be as simple as you know, I'd be.
There'd be nobody in the in the in the rink
at all. And it was a training facility. So if
you took a regular sized hockey rink and shrunk it
down to about two thirds the size, okay, that's the

(01:08:12):
type of rink that we worked at. It was like
a three on three hockey rink. And there was just
all sorts of paranormal activity around this place, from banging
on the walls, like and it was cement brick, you know,
you get those cement bricks, like somebody taking a sledgehammer
to those bricks and wow, and then you know, I

(01:08:37):
remember one time cleaning up the dressing rooms because I
was going out with my cousin and his girlfriend after work.
It was about eleven o'clock at night. We were going
to go to the bar, and all of a sudden,
there's the sound of hockey pucks hitting the plexiglass out
on the rink and the doors were locked. There was
nobody in there, you know, it had it was the

(01:09:00):
had a viewing area in the upstairs, you know, and
you would be I'd be driving the zamboni and all
of a sudden, I, out of the corner of my eye,
I'd see somebody standing up there. I turned my head.
There's nobody there. And one time, you know, I'm twenty
one years old, you know, I'm single. I'm trying to

(01:09:20):
pick up some girls, you know, and I, you know,
a friend of mine, her and I go back to
the hockey rink that night, and you know, we're thinking, okay,
well there's nobody here, you know, we'll go upstairs. And
all of a sudden, we hear the front door unlock,
and there was tile on the floor, and we hear

(01:09:41):
we hear the tile, footsteps on the tile, and then
it turns to come up this the footsteps turned to
come up the stairs, and we could hear it coming
up the stairs. And I look out the window. The
only car that is in there is my vehicle in
the parking lot. And there are only three keys in

(01:10:04):
the three keys to unlock that door. The two owners
had keys, and I had keys. And when I went
to the stairway, there was nobody there. Oh, nobody there.
It ruined my night. I was going to have a
good time and it ruined my night. But this place,

(01:10:24):
man being there at night, I hated it. I hated
it so much because there was just something I'm not
going to say evil but sinister there and that place
scared the daylights out of me. Daylights. And it's funny.
One time, my boss calls me in early because I

(01:10:45):
was kind of like they were the main hockey instructors,
both the owners. They were drafted into the NHL in
the eighties, and I was kind of their helper. But
I also was an iceman and I would be the janitor.
We all kind of did our part. And he calls
me up and he's like, hey, I need you to
come in early. The bathroom exploded, so oh I shut

(01:11:06):
the bathroom down. Okay, this is literally two days before Christmas.
I shut the bathroom down. Took me four hours to
get all the human elements off, the walls, off, the ceiling,
all over the floor, in the sink, everything. It was

(01:11:31):
literally like somebody took a took a like a cherry
bomb and blew up the bathroom after somebody had just
gone That's how bad it was. So I spend four
hours there. Christmas Day, my boss calls me up and
he just starts ripping me, and I'm like, what's going on.

(01:11:51):
He goes, I told you to come in and clean
that bathroom. You said that you did, I said, I
spent four hours disinfecting absolutely everything. I can give you
names of people who watched me while they, you know,
while they were getting ready to go on the ice. Okay,
I did it. He's like, I walked in there and

(01:12:11):
the bathroom had crap all over the ceiling, all over
the walls, everything, Like, I did nothing in there, and
nobody had been in that building for forty eight hours.
So when they eventually sold it, one of those you know,
those those tube area or kids there, you know, they

(01:12:33):
turned it into one of those kid zones where where
there's all those tubes that you kind of the kids
will run around in with the ball pits and everything.
So I hadn't been in there in a couple of years.
I took my daughter there for a birthday party and
I met the owner of that new business and I said,
so your bathroom blow up lately, And she went pun

(01:12:55):
intended ghost white. She goes, Oh, she goes, how do
you know I said, let me guess it was the
outside bathroom not the inside one, or partly it was
the inside one, not the one that used to lead
to the dressing room. She goes, yeah, And I said,
when you cleaned it, it probably happened again. She goes yeah,

(01:13:18):
And I said, I said, do you have any other
haunted things happening here? She goes, I hate being here
at night. She goes, it always feels like there's somebody watching.
And then she starts to tell me about how, you know,
she would be cleaning up the tubes because they have
to disinfect the tubes after every every day because kids

(01:13:39):
with germs and everything, including the balls in the ballpit.
And she's like, I was cleaning the tubes just the
other night, and all of a sudden, I hear the
the something rustling through the ballpit and I see balls
start flying out of it. And she's like, she goes,
I really thought I was the old only only one

(01:14:02):
who knew this was going on here. I said, no,
it's been going on for a long time.

Speaker 6 (01:14:09):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Yeah, that place scared me. And you know, I go
back there today, like if I'm in my old hometown
and I drive by that place. It still gives me
the creeps, like there is just something dark.

Speaker 6 (01:14:24):
There, Yeah, something just as you know, there's just places
that are wrong. And I think I think the first
nation has had it right, Like they knew some places
you should just stay out of. And then we come
and we're like, oh, look at that view, there'd be
a great place to put them all. So we we

(01:14:47):
built wherever we felt like. And I'm pretty sure that
we've probably stamped a few neighborhoods and buildings onto places
that they knew never to touch, just great away from
because it was green.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Yeah, totally agree with you on that one. Let's get
to another question here. Let's go to Pat here, who
is asking do you think when you have a sighting
or an experience of evil or bad you can be
cured for a little time? And how would be the
best measure to stay safe?

Speaker 6 (01:15:20):
I'm not sure I understand the concept. Do you think
when you have a sighting over an experience of evil
or bad you can be cured for a little time?

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
In other words, not possessed or an attachment?

Speaker 6 (01:15:34):
Oh yeah, yeah, of course. I think here's the thing
we are. I believe that we are ultimately in charge
of our own experience. It's just these things are great
at convincing us that we're not and we are always empowered,
and you can always you can always exert and demand

(01:15:55):
that your will has followed. It can certainly if you're
if you're poking into the dark, sometimes the dark pokes back,
and and if you're going to investigate, you got to
understand that you may very well come in contact with
something very dark and not good, and it might be
a problem for you. So I always really really advocate

(01:16:16):
anytime anybody's dealing with dark things or potentially going someplace
that has activity that you you've got to prepare. You've
got to You've got to go into it prepared. You've
got to go into it with I mean, whatever your
belief is, you have to follow your faith. If your
faith is Christian, you should you know, maybe annoint yourself
with with oils and prayers and and uh, you know,

(01:16:40):
saying things that are protective before going into a place,
and then when you're there.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:16:46):
That's like one of my biggest pet peeves of like
investigation shows on TV is like use my energy, use mine.
I'm like, oh my god, don't, don't don't don't volunteer
your energy for any that isn't you, because you don't
know what you're volunteering it to. And basically it's like
a surrender. But I think that you know, and then

(01:17:07):
after an investigation, it's really important to you know, make
very clear statements. You are not allowed to follow me home.
You are not. You must remain here. You do not
have my permission to attach to me or anything. And
use prayers and whatever your faith calls for in your
observations or beliefs, utilize those things, but you have to

(01:17:27):
be really adamant about, you know, beginning with protection and
ending with with cleansing and protection, and certainly that I mean,
I would never go so far as to as to
suggest any one way because it really has to resonate
with your faith. Like if I really think that the
key to any any religion is your faith, it's how

(01:17:49):
how how how precious is it to you? How much
is it a part of your of your observation and belief.
That's how powerful your prayers become. It's magnified by you.
So like if I've said this for years, but I
think if you firmly and fully believe with all your
all of your being, that you had a piece of
cheese that was absolutely divine that you could probably cast

(01:18:12):
out demons with it, because it's your faith that creates
that multiplier. Now, honestly, I'm being tongue in cheek with that,
but I'm just speaking to the importance of what you believe.
So in other words, as a as a let's say
you're a Christian. If I give you some Buddhist mantra
to to repeat and to dictate, or something from the

(01:18:32):
Hindu faith or whatever, it's probably not going to be
very effective for you because it's not something that you
apply your own faith to. But if if you're a
Christian and I gave you a look to you say
the Lord's Prayer and you say this psalm and this
you know this other uh recite this verse, then it
becomes powerful. Well it is because you make it powerful

(01:18:54):
with your faith. So you know, just take the time
to protect yourself both going in and coming out of
a situation. If you feel like you've been touched by
something and then it's like lingering if you can't take
care of it yourself, get somebody within your faith again,
and yeah, I think you can always you can always

(01:19:15):
get help from those things. It's just we oftentimes think,
oh my god, something moved I nothing touched it. This
thing is more powerful than me. I'm weak and that's
the first mistake. Don't ever admit any kind of weakness,
you know. So that's my personal observation.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
I would agree with you on that doesn't matter whether
you're cursed or whether you're with somebody who is possessed
or whatever. It is funny because I ran into a
lady the other day in my town who got possessed
while on my ghost tour, like literally possessed. I'd never
seen it before and trying to I've dealt with the

(01:19:54):
attachments before, and attachments are pretty easy to get off
a person, right, but this was completely different. Like she
was dragging me along the floor with her hands. I
had a hold of her hands, and she was like
dragging me across the floor, right, And I knew when
it was this spirit talking, and I knew when it

(01:20:15):
was her talking, and she won't come back. She's like,
uh no, no, I've had enough of that kind of stuff.
It scared scared me too, But you're right, that fear
came in to me, Like what do I do. I
don't know how to do this, and then eventually it's
just like, no, that thing doesn't have any power. I

(01:20:37):
have to take its power away from her. And then
it attached itself to me, which I was okay with
because it was out of her okay, And then I
dealt with it, you know, and got rid of the attachment.
And you know, it is a battle of faith. But
as long as you have the strength to always know

(01:20:58):
that you have the ability to get it out. It
doesn't have control over you. It wants you to think
it does, but it doesn't. Right, that's the big one.
Let's follow up another question from pat here. Do you
think when you are down personally mentally that it opens
the door for paranormal or any other bad juju to

(01:21:19):
come after you?

Speaker 6 (01:21:22):
I think it can, I think I I we we
have natural protection, but it's certainly most powerful when we're feeling.
You know that that joy and that light inner feeling
is resonates through our whole aura and energy. So I
believe that for sure, when we're dealing with times of

(01:21:43):
depression and hard times, I don't think our auras is
strong for sure. So I think that certainly going through
tough times leaves us much more vulnerable to dark things.
I think that there are I don't think that those
things are everywhere. I don't think that they're an omniscient threat.
But you don't know where they are or what they're doing,

(01:22:04):
and all they have is time, so they'll just keep
waiting and watching if they if they decide they're interested
in you. So just try to keep yourself up. But yeah, absolutely,
our emotions are a big part of it, because that
is the energy we're radiating into the world. We oftentimes think, look,
I'm I'm packaged in this meat suit, and this is me,

(01:22:26):
and then everything outside of me is not me, it's
everything else. But I think that our energies expand well
beyond the boundaries of our flesh and into the world
around us. And that's some people cite that as an
aura or or you know, any other numbers of any
other terms of description, But those things are definitely incumbent

(01:22:48):
upon how are you feeling about yourself? Are you feeling
empowered and you know, and strong and radiant and exuberant,
or are you feeling like the world is beating you
down and you're kind of retreated into yourself. So that
energy well kind of depends maybe even break holes into it.
You know, there's there's some beliefs that I was always told.

(01:23:08):
I was kind of raised esoterically, so I was told
there's two places that you should be very concerned about going.
And this may sound overly protective, but this is just
what I was explained is. And one of them is bars,
and the other one is hospitals. And it's because apparently
it's believed in a lot of the a lot of

(01:23:32):
esoteric ideas is that you know, when you imbibe in
too much alcohol, you actually create holes in your aura.
And those are points where these other spirits that like
the linger in those places might try to do what's
called a walk in, where it's not really a possession
insofar as like it's not this you know, brute force

(01:23:52):
kind of thing, but they'll just wait for the opening
and then it's goin to walk in and become a
part of you. Are attached to you in a very
very profe o way. And with hospitals, of course, when
you're in a hospital, you're already there because something's not right.
Usually usually something's hurt and broken. And when we're when
we're injured, when we're you know, sick or any any

(01:24:14):
number of combinations of that. We are weakened. And so
it's it's yeah, absolutely, I think try to keep yourself
up as much as you can. If you're ever dealing
with dark, heavy worlds, get help, find someone to talk to,
find someone that brings your spirits up. I think if
you are dealing with something, I don't know how we're
doing for time.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
We got Okay, I'm gonna have to cut you off
right there, buddy, we got to go to break Thomas.
After this.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
You're listening to space.

Speaker 6 (01:24:53):
Out with your hoses Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
All right, buddy, we're clear. I can get rambling, man,
I can get going. It's like, ah, that's all right.
And then I really it sounded good. Schedule you so well.
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:25:20):
Now I forgot what I was going to say anyway,
but it felt profound at the moment.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
You look good doing it.

Speaker 6 (01:25:25):
Yeah, Oh, thank you brother. I got to tell you,
you know, I've I've really missed connecting with you on
shows and stuff. We haven't done it for quite a while,
but I always have a great time, you know, hanging
out with you, and.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
And just thank you, Bud. You know it's the feelings
are mutual, feeling.

Speaker 6 (01:25:51):
That half a hour went really quick.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
Tell me about it.

Speaker 6 (01:26:00):
Great guests, Dave, Oh, thank you, aggregated progressive. I'll give
you here five bucks later.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Keep it up, Claudette, how you doing tonight? Good to
have you here. Well snuck in behind my not watching here.

(01:26:30):
Dave's a chill dude for sure. Thank you for your mind.
Oh look, Amy's like ha ha fred so funny.

Speaker 6 (01:26:44):
Amy's got great taste.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
Mm hmm. That's why we call him b Arthur because
he's golden.

Speaker 6 (01:26:53):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
Thank you, Evan Walters. We've got about three minutes here
from someplace.

Speaker 6 (01:27:06):
Very good. Yeah, I think you do two best the sand.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
Shell Bell? How are you? I didn't know you were
a Red Sox fan.

Speaker 6 (01:27:18):
H Shell Bell. It's neat to see, like even being
on your show, it's like being on my show. How
many of our audience we share. It's just so cool.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
I know, I know. Felipe, how you doing, buddy? You
have an incredible audience, You have an incredible studio with
a big blue dot flashing behind you. Yes, I like

(01:27:51):
to loop it because this is a portal. Right, who
doesn't loop? Who doesn't loop? Wilford Brimley, how's the diabetes tonight?
Give us an update. You know what's amazing is like

(01:28:16):
if you go back to like the eighties and nineties,
when Wilford Brimley still looked about seventy, then he was
younger than uspan like now did how did people like
thirty years ago look so old compared to like people
in their fifties today, People their fifties today look so
much younger.

Speaker 6 (01:28:38):
Yes, I've noticed that definitely when I was. When I
was young, people that were in their fifties which is
where I'm at now, looked like they looked old. And
now people in their fifties are looking amaze, amazing. It's
like something that good has happened. You know, not to
say that I'm one of those people, but I just

(01:28:58):
noticed that. And maybe it's because in that age now
at least, you know, he looks fine. But I hear
everybody back back in the seventies looked like they were
ancient in the fifties.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
Brent von Horn or Brent von Horn, how you doing.
Welcome to sour Chat. You're Dutch, by the way, Just
wanting to let you know and skip to my little
good boarding to you. Yeah, haul Cogan always looked old,
you know, always probably too much sugan. Yeah, he always

(01:29:31):
looked old.

Speaker 6 (01:29:33):
I always thought he kind of looked timeless, Like you
couldn't really put an age on the guy, you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
Know, like, you know who's looking old now? Was Rick Flair?
Holy cow, Rick Flair looks old.

Speaker 6 (01:29:45):
I did see a picture of a little video clip
of him lately, and it's like, oh, but those guys
you see him now and they're hardly walking because they've
been slumming each other.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
All right, we got about ten seconds here, and thank
you to Mickey and Kitty, our lone super chanters of
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it helps with the algorithms. And here we go. Here

(01:30:29):
we go with the second half of Spaced Out Radio tonight.
My name is Dame Scott. We really appreciate you tuning
us on in wherever you are on this beautiful planet
we call Earth. We have Brent Thomas from the Paranormal
Portal podcast on here. We're sharing some paranormal adventures stories
and answering questions from our audience. We are going to

(01:30:51):
continue those right now. Brent. Let's go to Philip over
in the UK question for Brent, have you ever seen
the paddler of Lake Penn or yell or have a
story of someone crossing paths with the paddler. I don't
even know what the paddler is.

Speaker 6 (01:31:10):
No, So the paddler is like I live in the
north tip of Idaho and there's a lake out here
called Lake Ponderrey, and it's spelled like like phil put
in there, and that it's it's French because I guess
this area was settled by the French originally, but it's
our version of NeSSI essentially it's another one of those

(01:31:32):
like champ And and Ciogo and all of those that.
So apparently there's a lake monster here called the Paddler.
I've never talked to anybody that's seen it. I've never
heard any accounts of anybody seeing it, but I've heard
the legend that it's supposedly here. So so far, no,

(01:31:55):
although you know, I'm not one of those people to
actively go out and like look for, you know, encounters
of something specifically like that. So I'm not like knocking
on doors up here and saying, hey, ever seen the paddler?
You know, probably I'd probably end up in jail first,
and then next i'd probably be on medicine and wrap

(01:32:15):
around sleeves or whatever because they'd be like, you're crazy.
But no, as far as I know, there's no recent
sightings up it up here, at least within the decade
that I've lived here. I've not heard of any UFOs
up here are much more common than the paddler, but apparently.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
It's out there. So yeah, I look at that too
with the sea monsters, you know, because the closest one
to me would be would be the Ogo Pogo about
and that's about a four hour drive south of me.
And I look at that big lake Okanagan. It's a big, black,

(01:32:55):
deep lake, and I think, you know, Nope, not swimming
in there, not swimming in there. No, yeah, No, we
got to get somebody on to talk about the thing
that I.

Speaker 6 (01:33:11):
That would be cool, you know. I'd love to talk
to somebody about those kind of things too, because what
I don't understand is a lot of the descriptions that
people compare this to is like do a plesiosaur or something.
These different monsters are all regarded as these dinosaur like beings,
you know, with the many humps and all that. What

(01:33:32):
I don't know is if we're pleas usaur's water breathing
or were they air breathing and they just kind of
like dolphins and porpoises and whales, they just kind of
surface and gravel breath and then go down and do
their thing or what Because you'd think if it was
air breathing, you'd probably be able to catch it, you know,

(01:33:53):
like eventually on Locknest you'd see the thing come up
and suck some air and then go down. Especially as
many people that seem to be paying attention to the
idea that there's these l like monsters out there's you know,
the sightings are still few and far between.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
Yeah, and people are still having those encounters, and as
long as they are having those encounters, it is something
that we are going to have to continue with the legends,
that's for sure. Let's go over to Grandiser who is
asking Brent with the paranormal genres seeming to go in cycles,
where do you see the genres heading into the future

(01:34:30):
UFO talk lessening while another one starts to rise or
is it staying as is?

Speaker 6 (01:34:39):
I think it goes in cycles based upon what people
are seeing the most of Like it seems to be
a crowded driven kind of subject matter, like if there's
some profound sidings that cover an area, Like let's just
say the Phoenix Lights, for instance, was a you know,
an incident in Phoenix areas where a lot of people

(01:35:01):
saw this huge craft head overhead. Well, I mean it
hit so many you know, trigger points with like news
and reports and all of that that of course it
became a big thing. And then that carries on in
a wave where suddenly you're you know, hearing some more
of that stuff. And so I think, you know, in
Ohio was a great example lately of like a rash

(01:35:24):
of bigfoot sighting. Suddenly everybody's talking about bigfoots. Or now
in Oklahoma, as we talked about earlier, the you know,
the woman being attacked backed by something canid tearing her up.
Now everybody's thinking about dog man and stuff. So it's
totally driven by what people are seeing. I think most
of all, I think these questions are always lingering. Probably

(01:35:47):
the most prevalent question that continues to stay in people's
consciousness is the UFO phenomena. Because people are continually seeing
these things, continually reporting them. There's always talk of new
releases and official releases and such, so it kind of
keeps us primed to expect more of it and to

(01:36:09):
keep thinking about it, so it ends up in the
news cycles more often. But it's also the probably the
most the most probable paranormal phenomena that will be at
least admitted before any of the other ones will because
it's something that touches a worldwide audience, and not that

(01:36:33):
these other ones don't. But when you're talking about encounters
with armed forces and stuff, they're not really having bigfoot
encounters in local city government or anything like that. But
you can see UFOs anywhere, and they love to buzz
military bases, especially for some reason, they are very prevalent
around there, so they stay in our consciousness more often.

(01:36:54):
But I don't know if it's I don't think it's
like there. I don't think there's a bio rhythm to
which one we're talking about. I just think it all
depends on what people are seeing, and then the ball
starts rolling, and then more people start talking about it
until the next thing happened, and then people start talking
about that instead. It's kind of like any news cycle,

(01:37:17):
and this is just another type of news cycle.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
I would say that, I think we're going to be
in the UFO world for a long time yet, because
there's a difference between the paranormal, the cryptid and the
UFO world, and that is the mainstream media. UFOs, because
of government involvement, hit the mainstream media to the point

(01:37:42):
where it's not just a laughing subject anymore, or a
byline on a Friday night newscast at the end right
before the sports come on. That's not it anymore. It
is mainstream during the day. It's been front page news
from the New York Times to other major newspapers. And

(01:38:04):
because of the government involvement and Congress people holding hearings
over this and everything that the UFO world wanted for years,
it is going to take a while before UFOs gets topped.
It is UFOs by ten miles over cryptids and the paranormal. Sure,

(01:38:25):
you have more paranormal television shows from Ghost Adventures to
others that are out there. That's great programming. Good for
them for putting it out. But as for the cycles,
until disclosure goes away one way or another, the UFOs
will be the number one topic for a long time,

(01:38:47):
at least another decade at least, and if they end
up coming out saying and proving that aliens are here,
that they are among us, and we have them, we
have their craft whatever it may be, or we've found
a signal from some other Goldilocks planet in another star system,

(01:39:10):
that will be the icebreaker right there, and then UFOs
and alien beings will always be the number one topic.
There's no way the pair and noormal ever gets as
big as it was. And even if they found a
real live Bigfoot body, well I guess it would be
dead if it was a Bigfoot body. But if they

(01:39:32):
found one, it's still not going to be as big
as UFOs.

Speaker 6 (01:39:37):
Your thoughts spread, Yeah, I think so, because it's like
you said, I mean, these militaries are encountering these encountering
these craft. They've take taken video of it, so I mean, automatically,
as soon as you see evidence of like Bigfoot, there's
like fifty different measurements of whether this is actually legiti
or not. Because you know, we we weren't there, and

(01:40:01):
we were you know, we couldn't like recreate it and
try to debunk it or whatever. But when you're catching
video footage from you know, some supersonic jet fighter, that's
you know, in the military, and it's recorded this you know,
like speaking of the tic TAC craft h and the
videos from the nimits and and all of those that

(01:40:22):
are coming. Apparently there's some allegedly more coming. We'll see,
but there's there's a lot of videos with that they've
caught during maneuvers and during training exercises that at least
they're they're not They're they're saying, look, this was really there,
and I assume that they can be considered credible, so

(01:40:44):
automatically they're not questioned as to their authenticity, that those
videos are legitimately an event that happened. But every other
part of this stuff is subjective. It's you know, Pete
and his buddy, uh Andrew were out there in the
woods and they saw this thing walking up the hill.
Well did they or you know, what was going on?

(01:41:06):
How much have they been drinking? Is that really their
other friend who put on a fur coat? And you know,
there's so many questions that automatically are applied that that
require authentication before it's even considered legits. And then now
with the big AI question, everything looks legit. So it's
becoming muddier muddier but you know, if it comes from
an armed forces brand, all right, you can at least

(01:41:29):
accept that as real. And the discussion is already miles
ahead of everyone else, every other aspect of the paranormal
supernatural umbrella, because you can't. It's really really hard to
authenticate any other evidence to that degree.

Speaker 1 (01:41:44):
Here's what I think too, with what you're saying. I
think that when we look at these subjects, and we
look at where these are going, we don't know how
to prove there's life after death. Science has already made
up their mind about cryptids. They've already made up their

(01:42:07):
mind that they don't exist. Doesn't matter how many footprints
you produce, how many hair samples, scat samples, handprints, face
prints because for some reason, Bigfoot likes putting his face
up against windows. Doesn't matter what evidence you have, it's
not going to be enough to convince mainstream science that

(01:42:29):
they have something. UFOs are tangible because we don't know
what's out there. We don't know what's hiding in our oceans,
at depths that are beyond our reach. We don't know.
We don't know. I mean, we're opening up our minds.
Science has been opening up our minds, to time travel, portals, dimensions.

(01:42:52):
How many different dimensions are we living in at the
exact same time. We don't know. And when science looks
at all of this, that's where they get the more
probability that there is some sort of life there, even
though the majority of scientists who are outside of the
UFO realm still believe that it's out there somewhere in space,

(01:43:16):
not here in the present, and they're not going to
buy anything until they produce a UFO and aliens for
everyone to see and for science to test. So I
really believe that this subject will stay where it is
and there would be no changing that. Let's go to Jarance.

(01:43:37):
Jarance is asking what is your opinion of the Old
Hag or the hat man entities people see while in
their bedroom.

Speaker 6 (01:43:48):
I think it's a very real phenomenon. It's old. There's
time really for both of them. I know they've been
going on for at least well over one hundred years
for both of them. The Old Hag goes back into
I think some of the I don't know for sure,
but some of the earliest accounts I've ever heard of
were from like the Renaissance period in Europe of people

(01:44:10):
reporting this old hag syndrome, and it's basically a sleep
paralysis syndrome, but people are seeing an apparition attached to it,
like something perched on their chest that looks like this
old haggard woman leaning really close to their face. And
some people report this like it's like seems to be

(01:44:31):
like open mouthed, like it's drawing in maybe their life
force or whatever. I don't know, but it certainly seems
to be something that And oddly enough, even though it
looks like an old hag, it seems like almost like
a parasite, a spiritual parasite of sorts, and it seems
to be subsisting off of these people that are locked

(01:44:52):
in this helpless state and they can't move. All they
can do is basically move their eyes and watch in
terror as this creature is there. And you know, for
whatever reason, there's many reasons it may quit doing it
for that time, like maybe it gets full and then
just just done and gone, and then they're able to move.
So that's I think. I think that's definitely a very

(01:45:14):
real phenomenon that people are experiencing. It's it's hard to
quantify those kind of things because you never really know,
and if you haven't, if you've never experienced these paralysis
and I'm saying this because I've experienced it a lot.
There was a period of like two years where it
was a weekly experience for me, and it was horrible.

(01:45:35):
And some of those times I didn't always feel like
something was there, but some of those times I swear
I saw like a shadow in the corner or something.
And it's making it even creepier because it seems to
be directed by something that's trying to affect you and
make you afraid, obviously, but I think it seems to
be this parasitic thing. Now. The hat man is another

(01:45:57):
one that's I find interesting because there's a whole spectrum
of hat man reports, Like there's the oh, it's dark
in the fairyus, it's evil, it's wanting to hurt you,
it's you know whatever, almost demonic, and then there's another
spectrum of it where it just seems to be this
I don't know, quiet observer where they stand and in

(01:46:17):
a room just watching somebody in their bed. And there's
plenty of reports of people going, you can't be here,
you got to leave, and the hat man kind kind
of done just turning and walking away, never to be
seen again. So I don't know what the hat man is.
I don't think. I don't know that it's it was human. Ever,
it might be something else that's you know, that's how

(01:46:42):
it appears. But maybe it was never a human being
that had existed in the world, but it might have
been as well. It's it's a big question mark this whole,
you know. I believe that spiritually speaking, we just use
these terms like ghost, well I saw a ghost, and
that to us has this meaning of of you know,

(01:47:03):
any number of things. But I think when we're experiencing
ghostly type apparitions and stuff, we could be experiencing any
number of different actual energetic entities, and a lot of
which were never people in the traditional sense. They might
look humanoid, but so does Bigfoot. But it's not a person.
It's it's a bigfoot, and I think it's a lot

(01:47:24):
of it is the same for these things. Pale crawlers
look like people, the you know, the rakes or pale crawlers,
or you know, any number of different titles that are
attributed to it, but they're not people. So whatever hat
man shadow people are, they could be something that's just
a little bit on a phase out of us. And
I don't think that they're always nefarious and dark. They're

(01:47:47):
just shadowy and and of course in our thinking, it's
freaking us out because we're seeing something that's not supposed
to be there. It's that makes it scary, make you
feel vulnerable, and then you attribute this mode to it,
like it's got to be evil, and maybe it is,
maybe it isn't.

Speaker 1 (01:48:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:48:03):
I can't speak to that, but I think they're very real.
I think it's a real phenomenon.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
I also believe in tulpa's. I agree with one hundred
percent of what you said, but I also believe that
these tulpa's, whether it's the hat Man, slender Man, you know,
the Old Hag or siren Head, they all to me
come from that creepy pasta era where we put enough

(01:48:31):
energy into them that we've created them ourselves. And that's
where I believe a lot of these subjects come from. Brent.
I believe that we have the power to manifest this
type of energy into things that could scare us. I mean,
it's almost like Nightmare on Elm Street. Freddie won because

(01:48:52):
he knew he had you in his dreams. You made
him stronger in the dreams and to the point where
kids didn't want to go to bed anymore, you know.
And I remember point blank, when I was sixteen, seventeen
years old, I kept getting scared because at around two

(01:49:12):
o'clock every morning, I would wake up because you know,
when we were teenagers in the late eighties early nineties,
what was the cool thing to do. You went to bed,
played your local rock and roll station, right, and they
would always play Dream Warriors from from Docin which was
from Nightmare on Elm Street, Part three, and I would

(01:49:35):
get freaked out at night. I would wake up with
Freddy Krueger on my brain. Well, I was creating that
now looking back at it, you know, going back decades now,
I know now that I was creating that because it
scared me. So as I creating Freddy Krueger in my head,

(01:49:56):
that would have been a tulpa because I was putting
energy into it. So there's a lot of that going
along too. Let's get to another question. We only got
about four minutes left, Brent, Okay to you, which is
the best documented UFO encounter, the Nimitz incident. Japan Airlines

(01:50:18):
sixteen twenty eight, Rendelsham Forrest, Tehran nineteen seventy six, or
another that's not listed. This is a fun question.

Speaker 6 (01:50:29):
Wow, that's I mean, all of those are incredible events
that have layers of of corroboration, and I think that
that's huge. I love the Japanese Airlines the JL sixteen
twenty eight, because not only was there the reports of
the pilots and other pilots seeing something up there, but

(01:50:52):
there was actually a radar tracking of this thing following
this plane, and you know, and they requested it do
new to see how this other thing would behave But
I love all of them, though, Randall Shim, it's hard
to compare all of these because they are all incredible
moments of documentation of this phenomena and of these events

(01:51:19):
that I'm sure all happened. I'm less familiar with the
Tehran nineteen seventy six one, but the other three I'm
I'm very familiar with. Randall Shim. I thought it was
neat because you know, Charles Holt had the recorder and
he kept it. You know, in his debriefing, he was
never told he had to hand it in, so he didn't,
and he plays that recording as it happened as they're

(01:51:41):
investigating this event, and you know that whatever they were
experiencing in that time was very real event. So some
pretty crazy stuff happened. I think they're all spectacular, but
I have to admit that Tehran one I know the
least about.

Speaker 1 (01:51:57):
For me. I would say that the Japan Airlines flight
sixteen twenty eight. Those pilots who literally saw a mile
long craft were then asked to immediately land at Elmendorf
Air Force Base to be debriefed by Japan Airlines and
the US military. The pilots were fired over this because

(01:52:22):
they brought disgrace to Japan Airlines for reporting a UFO.
They eventually got their jobs back, but you know, Japan
is a very proud country. They don't like things that
are out of the ordinary. And that is one of
my favorite cases, Rendalsham. As much as I love it,

(01:52:46):
it's not one of my favorites. It really is. And
I know people like Nicole sakicche or are all hot
and heavy over over Randalsham. It's just never been one
of my favorite cases. I think the Nimitz incident with
the tic TACs in two thousand and four I believe
those were man made objects. I think those were UAP,

(01:53:07):
not UFOs. Those were UAP being tested. And I would
say the one that is left off this list, and
it always comes down to it roswell, roswell I thing
and Shag Harbor. Those two cases right there, I think

(01:53:30):
you know. One is the American roswell, one is the
Canadian roswell in Shag Harbor. Those two cases. If we
could get the proper information on those, including if the
naval divers at Shag Harbor ever came out and said
what they stated, well then we would be in for

(01:53:51):
a whole lot of fun. Brent Thomas, tell everybody where
they find the Paranormal Portal.

Speaker 6 (01:53:59):
The best places to go to Panormal Portal dot net.
That's the homepage for my shows, and you can find
information about all of them, including the social media and
how to reach out and get in touch with me.
So I'd love to see you guys over.

Speaker 1 (01:54:10):
There right on, Buddy. Coming up next, we got Swamp
Dweller and somewhere around the corner, Grant Baker will join
us for the UFO Report. Maybe we'll convince Brent to
stick around if he wants, but that'll be his call.
We'll be right back.

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You got you go eat your bowl of cereal. We'll talk.
We'll talk, sud brother.

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Speaker 14 (02:02:20):
Hello and welcome to spaced Out Radio Swamp.

Speaker 7 (02:02:24):
I'm swamp dweller, and tonight I'm going to take you
on a mystic journey of the unn sharing tales of monsters,
legends and nightmares.

Speaker 14 (02:02:33):
Welcome to the spaced Out Radio Swamp.

Speaker 7 (02:02:39):
I'm an abbot hunter. I go every season and I
love it more often than not. I don't kill any game,
but I just love getting out and into the woods.
I don't know if you're familiar with hunting season in Pennsylvania,
but during late November, the rifle season is in full swing.
It was already the second week of the season and

(02:03:02):
I had yet to bag any deer, so I was
eager to get to it early in the morning, and
I did. I normally get up at around five am
and drive to my hunting spot. It's private land that
my grandfather owns. Him and I are the only two
hunt on it, and the rest is posted to hunters,
and the only others on that land are employed on

(02:03:23):
my grandfather's farm. I had originally planned on calling my
grandfather when I woke up and asked him if he
wanted to tag along, but the weather was more than
horrendous in the morning. The snow was pouring down and
the wind was really strong. I love hunting in the snow,
but it almost made me decide not to go, so

(02:03:43):
I knew he would want to. The roads were really bad,
so it took me a bit longer to drive there.
Normally the sun would be starting to rise by now, however,
it was overcast and snowing. Regardless of the snow, I
walked up to my spot. It was directly behind my
grandfather's house, over a hill and back about one hundred

(02:04:04):
to one hundred and fifty yards.

Speaker 14 (02:04:06):
Almost immediately upon sitting in my spot, I hear things
moving all around me. Honestly, I didn't pay too much
attention to it.

Speaker 7 (02:04:16):
It could have been a number of things, but it
was still pitch black, and the thought of it was
kind of creeping me out. But there wasn't much I
could do. It's not like I can shoot at anything,
so I just ignored it and continued to wait. It
wasn't much longer after that that I begin hearing something
walking just over the ridge to my right. At this point,

(02:04:37):
there's barely enough light to see my feet, so even
if it was a deer, but there was still.

Speaker 14 (02:04:41):
Nothing I could do. However, I could tell it wasn't
a deer.

Speaker 7 (02:04:46):
I just assume it was my grandfather walking to a
spot which is just a short walk from mine. But
the lights in the house were off, and if he
was up here, I'm sure he'd let me know prior.
Even if it wasn't him, it was a hunter, albeit
hunting illegally, I still wanted to let him know I

(02:05:08):
was here, so I turned on my flashlight and pointed
into his direction, flashing it several times again. Even if
it was a deer, I couldn't shoot it, so I
felt it was better to be safe rather than sorry.
Nothing happened after that. After I flashed my light, then
thoise stopped, which was really odd. I didn't see them

(02:05:30):
turn back or hear them, so I figured they either
a sat down right there after seeing my light, which
was considered extremely rude, or b I didn't hear them
walk off. I just assumed it was the latter. An
hour or so passes, and finally the first sights of
daylight start to shine through. It's still snowing, and the

(02:05:51):
snow was falling in entire snowballs rather than snowflakes, so
visibility is pretty limited. I around the time noticed that
an odd looking lump protruding from a group of trees
the shrubs atop the hill that separates me my granddad's house,
right where I had movement earlier. It looked like a

(02:06:11):
mound of dirt. However, it was sticking out from the
side of a tree, so obviously it wasn't dirt. Naturally,
I raised my rifle to take a closer look. I
could tell immediately that I was looking at the side
of an older style camouflage coat. It took a minute,
but I finally clicked that was a person over there.

(02:06:32):
I just thought it was a hunter, so I didn't
know what to do about it. I knew if he
was hunting on our land illegally, and from that I
could see he wasn't wearing anything orange, which is required
of all hunters during their rifle season. And I could
tell just from looking whoever this was wasn't my grandfather.
I sat there for a minute, tomating my next move,
but I decided to call my granddad at the risk

(02:06:54):
of blowing his stunt if that was actually him over there.
So without taking my eyes off the sky, put on
my f and.

Speaker 14 (02:07:00):
Doubt his number.

Speaker 7 (02:07:01):
To my dismay, he picked up and I told him
what was going on, So he told me that he'd
make his way up. But I sided on my own
to give this guy a whistle to let him know
I see him, but he didn't react at all. After
a few minutes, I started to walk up to this guy.
After walking a short distance, I could clearly see this guy,
who was sound asleep tucked in between a shrub and

(02:07:23):
a couple of trees.

Speaker 14 (02:07:25):
He obviously thought out here was a great.

Speaker 7 (02:07:27):
Place to lay down, as I would never be able
to see him, and his coat was not stuck out,
and as I thought he had no orange on, I
gave him another whistle much louder, and he woke right up,
almost immediately, shuffling over to hide his exposed coat.

Speaker 13 (02:07:41):
He had a.

Speaker 14 (02:07:41):
Nasty, scruffy beard and a gray hat.

Speaker 7 (02:07:44):
Honestly, he looked like a harmless, hold homeless man, probably
in his fifties.

Speaker 14 (02:07:49):
But he had a perfect view.

Speaker 7 (02:07:51):
Of my granddad's home from his spot, and I had
a pretty good idea that he was planning to do
once my granddad left the house. Once this guy realized
he'd been caught and he saw a six' five mad
guy carrying a, rifle he started freaking.

Speaker 14 (02:08:06):
Out his face went, pale and almost instantly he tried
to feed.

Speaker 7 (02:08:09):
Me some bold hed got lost during a drive with
a group of other, hunters a drive as a coordinator
pushed through a thicket in order to drive deer to
hunters sitting at the edge of a designated driving.

Speaker 6 (02:08:19):
Area, however the closest.

Speaker 7 (02:08:21):
Public gameland is miles from the, spot SO i knew
it was a. Lie he just wanted to keep on
going on about how he was lost and how he fell.
Asleep he even went as far to make up a
fake name on the. SPOT i just stood there and,
listened making sure he didn't give me any fishy. MOVEMENTS
i couldn't help but think that what this guy was
going to do to my, Grandfather god knows if he

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had the, chance and the thoughts pissed me.

Speaker 1 (02:08:45):
Off thank, You swampy for another great. Story if you
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thousands of stories for you to listen to each and every.
Night let's get to THE Ufo. Report it's time for me.

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ONE i play The day of one on one music

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only BECAUSE i haven't played it in a. While but you,
know one of the people who is really really impressing
me more and more each and every, day because literally
it's now every day Is Congressman Tim. Burchett why is
he impressing? Me, well, LOOK i don't Know american. Politics
i'm not From, america but when it comes to THE ufo,

(02:09:58):
story the one thing THAT i love about, him whether
you like his side of the politics of being A
republican or. Not is the fact that he, refuses absolutely
refuses to give up on THIS ufo. Story that is
something that we wish all politicians would be brave enough to,

(02:10:19):
do not just because IT'S, UFOs we wish more of
them would actually do it while they are in, office
actually working for what's right rather than for what's right
for their own, pockets which we see a lot of
In canada these. Days burshett Or burchett pardon, me has
really been all over. This he has been calling FOR ufo,

(02:10:42):
transparency whistleblower. Transparency he believes the president is on a
need to know basis and the president needs to take
more control of this. Subject he also believes that he
has heard stories that would literally set your world on
fire if you're a part of the. Public because we
don't know what he, knows what he has been, shown

(02:11:05):
or what he is allowed to. Say he's trying to
get it, out which we can say is much more
than any other politician in the history of THIS ufo.
Subject and recently he was On News nation where he
literally was getting into The United States. President what does

(02:11:26):
the president know about this? Subject what Does Donald Trump,
NO i Mean Donald trump seems to downplay this, subject
that he's not very interested in, it that he's not
very much into talking about the. Subject But burchett says
it's time that maybe he.

Speaker 15 (02:11:42):
Does there's credible proof that there's something else is going
on in the, military and all these alphabet. Agencies they'll
publicly say one day they don't, exist this is all,
Baloney but then there's been in tens of, millions maybe
billions a year dollars researching. This it's not about love
and Green man or fine Saucers man and you as
a member of the, media it shouldn't.

Speaker 1 (02:12:02):
Be it should be.

Speaker 2 (02:12:02):
About what are we spending this money?

Speaker 1 (02:12:04):
On why is there not?

Speaker 15 (02:12:06):
Transparency where is this money? Going and and and that
that should be the. Discussion And i've talked to the.
President he's going to have to ask some tough questions
of these these. Agencies and why AM i in a
meeting with somebody who tells me the president is on
a need to know. Basis that's a very chilling statement To,
mike that someone has that much power an unelected. Bureaucrat

(02:12:28):
sometimes it's some little punk with a man bun who's
has got a smart alec. Attitude and you're sitting there
with military professionals and you can just read them that
they are disgusted with this little punk has authority over,
them and that's that should be something you should be
just you should be. Discussion but the money is going into.
Something quit telling me they don't. Exist if then if

(02:12:50):
they don't, exist and dad going to quit looking for.

Speaker 1 (02:12:52):
Him that's WHAT i love about him right. There that's
WHAT i love about him is let's just get through THE.
Bs let's get to the, point and let's bring THIS
ufo story, home you. Know and the one thing THAT
i absolutely love About birchett he wants to know THE ufo.

(02:13:12):
Story he doesn't want THE uap cover, up he doesn't WANT,
nhi he wants, aliens he wants. Extraterrestrials, literally it's like
he's one of. Us and with that being one of,
us we really have to give him a little bit
more respect and the fact that he is pushing to

(02:13:35):
try and get this subject, cleared to try and get
it into the. Public but he did bring up something
in that clip From News, nation and we thank them
for the. Audio he did bring something up that was
very important is that it is time for the president
to start asking some tough questions whether or Not Donald
trump believes in this, subject or whether it was his

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predecessors Of Joe, Biden Barack, Obama george. W, Bush George
Herbert Walker, Bush george The, THIRD i don't, Know George.
Washington if we throw in a couple of others. There
the point That i'm getting at is when presidents are
on a short, term they don't have as much pull

(02:14:22):
with the secrecy as we think they. Do this isn't
just me saying. This this is people who are far
more educated THAT i will ever. Be i'm just reporting
on what they're. Saying, okay when you have somebody Like Donald,
trump for, instance his first year and a half in,
office and it doesn't matter whether It's trump or whether

(02:14:45):
it is any, President, okay let's just Erase trump because
we don't want anybody going haywire BECAUSE i said THE t. Word,
okay but let's Say President dave. Here the first year
and a half half of a presidency usually is spent
trying to correct everything that the previous administration. Did then

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you govern for another year to a year and a
quarter where you actually do your. Job as a, president
and then you have to get right into the idea
of my, GOODNESS i now have to start campaigning to
keep my job for another four. Years so, realistically the

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first four years of a, presidency you're really only working
as president for about a year and a half to two.
Years then when you go into your second, term if
you're lucky enough to get, elected what happens then is
your first two years you're going to run it because
you've already got the. Job then after that they start

(02:15:51):
looking for your person who's going to replace. You you
now become a lame duck. President and when you Become
i'm a lame duck, president nothing really gets. Done doesn't
matter who you are or what job you're. In when
you're in lame duck, situation not much gets. Done you try,
to but you get a little bit of backlash because

(02:16:12):
the party knows which that your terb is coming to an.
End they know that they are going to be done with.
You whether they love you or they hate, you they
know that you're going to be moving. On and let's
try and keep it as peaceful and as plain in
vanilla as, possible so we're not stirring up things before we. Leave, Now,

(02:16:36):
trump being the wild card that he, is we may
see something different when it comes TO. UFOs i don't
believe we, will but we're going to see what actually gets.
Released will he have the cajones to actually release those
forty six videos That Anna Paulina luna and her conspiracy

(02:16:59):
club actually want. RELEASED i don't know if they'll get.
Them i'm sure we might get one or. Two they're
going to be, blurry they're gonna be, grainy they're gonna
be black and. White they are going to be exactly
like a nineteen seventies television with rabbit ears that you

(02:17:20):
need to, go stand and touch in order to get
some sort of clear. Picture but Does Donald trump really
want to actually get into this? Subject it opens up
a whole can of worms because it involves every alphabet.
Agency it involves the, military and INVOLVES, Nasa it involves,

(02:17:43):
everybody especially if people Like Tim burchett Or Matt, gates
who recently stated on a radio show With walter. M
sterling as well as a podcast With Benny, johnson that
they are in contact with aliens and try to make
more contact through a hybridization. Program so when you look

(02:18:07):
at all of. That these secrets are slowly seeping. Out
but we could blame the media for not following it.
Up the media doesn't still know how to cover this.
Subject they're still in tinfoil hat conspiracy. Mode this subject
is being forced down their, throats so they have no

(02:18:27):
choice but to just do the. Following but the big
question for all of you out, there AND i want
you to think about this for a. Second, okay for, years, years, years,
decades a long long, time we have watched governments around

(02:18:48):
the world lie to its, citizens lie to get their
agenda moved. Through it doesn't matter whether you're in a
peaceful country LIKE i am In, canada or you're in
a great country like The republic of The United, states
or whether you're in a communist country Of china or
a former communist country In, russia or any sort of.

(02:19:09):
Dictatorship they all. Lie and, yet even though we catch
them in these lies that cost you and me thousands
of dollars every year in tax, money we're supposed to
believe them when it comes TO. UFOs, OH i don't

(02:19:30):
know what's really going. On this is a mystery of
what's happening. Here we don't know what those drones were
Over New mexico area fifty. One where is?

Speaker 7 (02:19:39):
That?

Speaker 1 (02:19:40):
Oh obama says it now. Exists we act like we're, shocked,
like oh my, god they're telling the truth ABOUT. UFOs
why would any government and let's focus on The United
states government here for a. Second tell us the truth
about UFO's alien life and whether or not they have

(02:20:03):
traded humans for technology like is believed in The eisenhower
rumor from nineteen fifty, three or whether or Not Matt
gates is, correct and they are kidnapping people from third
world and war torn countries as well as people from
our own countries that are destitute or maybe a little

(02:20:23):
crazy and taking them for these hybridization. Programs everything's on the.
Table we don't know where this subject is. Going we
just need to figure out what's the, truth what's. Not

(02:20:43):
but With Tim, BURCHETT i actually believe that he wants it.
Out he's pretty much stated that as ugly as this
story has, been for what he has, seen he feels
The american and the world public have an agreement that
we need to get it. Out but it's the alphabet

(02:21:04):
agencies that are causing it not to come. Out it's
the military that doesn't want it. Out it's the private
sector of the military industrial complex that doesn't want it
out because they want to be able to have their
cake and eat it. Too they already have the open,
checkbook but they want the open technology all for. Themselves

(02:21:28):
they don't care that it still takes six hours to
fly From, Tampa florida To. Vancouver they don't care that
after the concord, retired that it's now another four to five.
Hours excuse me that it's now another four to five

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hours to fly from The East coast over To. Europe
they don't. Care the same technology that was used in
the nineteen sixties to build airliners from the First boeing
seven oh seven to where we are. Today the technology

(02:22:12):
may have, improved but the time of flight. Hasn't think
about that for a. Second we have mock. Speed we've
had mock speed for seventy eighty years. Now why hasn't been?
Improved why haven't the aircraft sped?

Speaker 7 (02:22:35):
Up?

Speaker 1 (02:22:37):
Now i'm asking very basic, questions And i'm sure there's
a lot of scientific fact that could argue against. That but,
imagine instead of flying five hundred miles an hour as
the crow, flies imagine going six hundred miles an. Hour
we're six hundred and fifty miles an hour in A

(02:22:58):
boeing seven. Thirty to cut down flight times by an,
hour hour and a. Half, maybe wouldn't that make? Sense
the technology is. There wouldn't it make sense if some
of these aircraft could do mock, one which is around

(02:23:19):
seven hundred and forty miles an. Hour wouldn't that make
sense in today's world with the technology we. Have but,
no airliners are more interested in giving us less leg,
room thinner chairs to sit in that are more. Uncomfortable
and if you've ever done a long distant flight in
the cargo bay sitting in rows twenty eight through thirty,

(02:23:42):
five depending on the size of the, airplane you're not very.
Comfortable SO i always go by the wing, section little
bit more leg. Room trust, ME i know we need
to know. More we need to have. More if we
don't have, more then it's going to be the same,

(02:24:03):
old same, old and we'll never get any, pushback and
all the efforts of people Like Tim burchett are all
going to be for nought because eventually he's not going
to be an elected. Official we're going to continue with
some story time and more ufo. Doh in the final
half hour spaced out radio and this is spaced out

(02:24:24):
radio and your hosts Nay. Stock that was a good half.

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Hour Holly, hall how are, you my? Friend The Holly hall?
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Beno how are you? BUDDY i like Saying Holly. HALL

(02:25:10):
i like saying that it's. Fun are you Still west
Coasting Holly? Hall or if you move back to the.
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(02:25:34):
You are? You Hugo? Hebert what do you prefer The
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Badass the God father of the Sec, Welcome, godfather. Welcome

(02:26:16):
you're still in The Gulf? Islands? Nice he'll billy Herb

(02:26:38):
how are you? Buddy? Uh THAT'S Bc, Canada jay truth
that she's talking ABOUT Bc, Canada British, Columbia. Canada we

(02:27:01):
got three. Minutes everybody Loves. Vancouver i'm like in the.
MINORITY i can't. Stand Vancouver city is. Beautiful the backdrop

(02:27:25):
of the mountains is, nice the ocean is dirty and.
Filthy there's sharks in. There the people are. Horrible vancouver,

(02:27:51):
people for the most, part have an attitude that they
are better than.

Speaker 3 (02:27:56):
You.

Speaker 1 (02:27:58):
True not a fan Of vancouver Most vancouver, people not,
all not all, most BUT i will say their restaurants are.
Excellent their bar scene is. Fantastic Granville STREET i love

(02:28:19):
same as Robson. BETH i agree with. YOU i couldn't

(02:28:49):
wait to get out Of vancouver. Either Kids beach is.
Gorgeous Walter, Kotchabinski how are you weave a? Minute one friggin?

(02:29:12):
Minutes one minute, exactly Likes. Diaz that's the. Attitude here we.

(02:30:05):
Go here we go with the final half hour spaced out.

(02:30:32):
Radio my name Is Dave. Scott thank you very much
for joining us as we are ready for another great
time on this. Show and, hey we want to remind
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it's worth. It it is totally totally worth. IT i

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guarantee that you will enjoy every moment of. It you,
will you know, why BECAUSE i do it FOR i
always always do it for. Free so here we are
in this strange world right, now AND i love On
facebook there's this page called Creepy. ACRES i love this

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page so back In april of nineteen sixty, eight this
one comes From. Australia it was around one fifteen local
time From North, Narrabean New South, wales As Missus Mabel
walsh and her Nephew john were traveling along the north

(02:31:41):
shore Of Narrabeen, lagoon winding Down Wakehurst. Parkway the pair
spotted something bizarre wading in the shallow. Waters the creature
was about four feet, tall walked on two, thick round
elephant like hind. Legs it hadds smaller little penguin front

(02:32:03):
arms with some dead. Fingers its skin was leathery dark,
gray and while it doesn't appear to have a tail
or even, ears it does have two small eyes and a,
rigid short trunk that seems squared off at the, end
somewhat like an ant. Eater's, suddenly this elephante looking entity

(02:32:27):
realizes it's being observed and rushes out of the lagoon's
waters with alarming. Speed it shuffles off into the nearby
underbrush using a peculiar sideways. Locomotion Missus walls stops her,
car hoping to get another glimpse of this, beast but
it had already vanished into the surrounding. Foliage walts vows

(02:32:50):
that forever to keep an eye out for this. Beast,
however neither she nor her nephew ever witnessed it. Again
this thing looks like an elephant on two, legs except
it has like how do you put, it short arms

(02:33:11):
with like three fingers of one, thumb opposable, thumbs no,
tail no. Ears it's weird, looking absolutely weird. Looking AND
i love it when people take a look at things like.
This these are the type of reports THAT i love because,
realistically these one and done type, creatures or maybe they're

(02:33:36):
seen two three times and they're not seen for decades or. Ever,
again these are the CREATURES i think is absolutely. Phenomenal
this is what makes a good good. Story and let
me tell you why it, does BECAUSE i, BELIEVE i

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like to believe. People most people who have these type
of encounters do not look.

Speaker 5 (02:34:07):
For the.

Speaker 1 (02:34:07):
Attention they are not trying to make a buck off of.
This they're not trying to get their fifteen minutes of.
Fame they just want to know what the hell they.
Saw they just want to know that they saw something
strange and how did that? Happen what was that, creature

(02:34:27):
what was it, doing where was it? Living how did it?
Happen this is all stuff that absolutely makes me. Happy
it makes me happy because it shows that there are
still some weird ones out. There that's WHAT i. Love
do anythink that makes it a lot more? FUN i,

(02:34:50):
do it really. Does all, right let's get back to
THE ufo side of things, here because this whole sign
tists list that is happening is now up to allegedly,
nine AND i think this is something That congress is

(02:35:11):
going to have to look. Into. Now we do know
That Eric burlison put out a request to THE fbi
asking for help regarding these scientists that are linked to
space and nuclear. Programs many of them have been interviewed
about UFOs and UAPs. Privately this is just getting real.

(02:35:36):
Strange the latest, one the murder or the, death actually
happened a couple of years, ago but it's being tied
to it because this, gentleman this scientist was working with
nuclear and space, programs worked FOR nasa as. WELL i

(02:35:58):
don't really know how to explain, this you, Know when
we talked To Science bob the other night about, it
he thinks, that you, know in the case Of Major
General neil, McCaslin who has been missing Since february twenty,
seventh he feels that it was probably one of those
situations where he knew too much and they basically came
and picked him up and, said, hey we can't afford

(02:36:21):
to have any of this information go into the other
hands of people who we really don't want having, It
so it's time for you to come live on one
of our bases for time. Memorial notice how many more
people are saying Time. Memorial, NOW i don't get, that
but we used it.

Speaker 6 (02:36:41):
There.

Speaker 1 (02:36:42):
Yeah Michael David hicks passed away On july twenty, third
twenty twenty. Three he's the latest one to be added
to the, list making an account of. Nine and there's
a link between all of. Them and this link is very.

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Interesting i'm going to read it to. You so a
couple of the deceased Are Frank. Maywald he was a
top scientist detecting signs of alien. Life he worked FOR NASA,
jpl which is The Jet Propulsions, lab along With Carl,
grillmayer a scientist working on infrared. Telescopes Grill mayor's work

(02:37:29):
was found work. Found pardon, me let me reread That
Grill mayor's work found planet with water which is. Cool another,
deceased of, course we just named Him Michael David. Hicks
he was working for NASA's, jpl working on deflecting asteroids From.
Earth then we get into the missing. People there Was Melissa,

(02:37:53):
cassius an administrative Assistant Anthony chavez former employee until twenty.
Seventeen they both worked At Los Alamos National lab In New,
mexico coincidentally Where Bob lasar allegedly. Worked the base collaborates
With Los alamos on nuclear. Research it leads Into Kirkland

(02:38:14):
Air Force, base which was overseen By neil, McCaslin the Major.
General now FROM jpl AND nasa was a lady Named
Monica Jacento, raza who also worked At Wright Patterson Air
Force base With general McCaslin and was his. Assistant mcaslyn

(02:38:37):
actually oversaw funding For raisa's. Projects she disappeared In california
In july twenty twenty. Five and what's weird about that
is the search and rescue teams were not even off
the mountain yet because they hadn't found her and she

(02:38:57):
was already declared deceased with a, funeral we don't even
know if there was a body. There it was very very.
Strange it was very very. Strange so this list just

(02:39:19):
keeps on. Growing how many more into? This how many
of these brainiac scientists who are in the know are
going to lose their life maybe OVER? UFOs is this
something we need to be worried? About and, look we

(02:39:40):
know people die every. Day there's almost ten thousand people
a day that die In North. America that's a lot
of people if you think about. It but with, that with,
that you have to look at the. Patterns there's a

(02:40:02):
couple of patterns. Here space is a, PATTERN nasa is a.
Pattern Los alamos is a. Pattern and for many of these,
PEOPLE UFOs an unidentified anomalist phenomena known AS uap two
different things are a pattern as. Well there are less

(02:40:29):
numbered scientists who are involved in THE UFOs and space,
programs even though there's thousands employed by the. Government then
there are people who die per. Day if that makes,
SENSE i hope it. Does but they keep. Falling these

(02:40:54):
people keep, falling AND i hope That congress and THE
FBA i actually do something about this because there is
something that seems very nefarious that is going on with
This how that actually. HAPPENS i don't know why it's,
happening no, clue but it is, happening and we have

(02:41:17):
to be able to understand that this is something that
needs to be, investigated because if it was anybody, else
it would be. Investigated we know it would. Be so
we need that in order to make some understanding of
why these people are losing their. Lives is this some

(02:41:39):
modern Day manchurian candidate that has been chosen that, Says,
okay these people are no more use for, us go
take this person. Out is that what's? HAPPENING i hope,
not but we can't rule it. OUT i still love

(02:42:01):
The Bob lasar. Story i'm still not over watching his
movie on the, WEEKEND s Four The Bob Lasar. Story
it's absolutely. Great if you haven't watched, it go On,
amazon check it on out well worth the thirteen Bucks,

(02:42:25):
canadian ten Bucks. American very much worth, it very much worth.
IT i had a story here planned for you. Guys
you know when the story just kind of. Disappears, yeah
that's what's happened to. Me So i'm rambling here just
trying to find it While i'm talking to you, Guys

(02:42:57):
where did it?

Speaker 2 (02:42:57):
Go all, right that's not.

Speaker 1 (02:43:07):
IT I i'll end up finding it. AFTERWARDS i will
end up finding it, afterwards because that's normally what we.
Do let's go over To Lawn strickler's site here fantomsomonsters dot.

(02:43:34):
COM i love lawn site because he deals with absolutely.
Everything we're gonna give you this one that was reported.
Today in nineteen fifty, three a nine year old girl In, Tacoma,

(02:43:59):
washington was her hurrying home before, dark but she collided
with a. Man she would never. Forget what happened, next
and what was reportedly found in a nearby park the
following morning turned a strange neighborhood rumor into something much.
Darker it's from the young, girl probably not so young.

(02:44:21):
Now when my mother was a young girl living In, Tacoma,
washington just a few blocks From Puget sound and a
few houses down from the home Where Bing crosby was,
born a strange family moved into the. Neighborhood we never
saw much activity from them during the, day but at
night they always seemed to be. Entertaining there appeared to

(02:44:44):
be two couples in the, house maybe with another man
or two living there as. Well my mother said the
place looked elegant, inside but the outside was always. Unkempt
they never interacted with anyone in the, neighborhood not. Once
everyone in the household dressed in, black, dark old fashioned period,

(02:45:06):
clothing Almost edwardian in. Style they looked, young but at
the same time strangely. Old before, long neighbors started whispering
the same word. Vampires on this one night in nineteen fifty,
three when my mother was nine years, old she was

(02:45:26):
late getting home and knew she would be in trouble
if she was caught out after. Dark she was hurrying
and not paying attention when she ran straight into a tall.
Human he was, handsome very, pale and dressed in a
black evening cape lined in. Red what frightened her the
most were his. Eyes she said they were completely. Black

(02:45:49):
he grabbed, her stared at her for a, moment then
set her back on her feet and told her to
pass by. Quickly she ran home as fast as she.
Could she believed she had just crossed paths with someone
from that. House and had somehow gotten. Lucky the next,
morning according to my, mother the newspapers reported that a

(02:46:10):
young woman had been found dead in a park not
far from their, home drained of. Blood not long after,
that The strange family left the. Area, now As lawn,
says this is exactly the kind of account that sits
on the line between memory, narrative neighborhood, folklore and possible anomalist.

(02:46:31):
Encounter the emotional tone is strong and, personal especially because
the central witness was a, child and the image of
the pale black man or the pale man with black
eyes is unusually. Specific lawn's take is. Direct he says
he would not present this as proven. Vampirism he would

(02:46:52):
present it as a regional witness account involving possible humanoid,
intruder predatory, stranger air, folklore an entity. Narrative that's what's
scary about. THESE i don't know IF i would want
to run into a, Vampire but then, AGAIN i got

(02:47:12):
enough garlic in my blood that probably wouldn't do. Anything
they'd be not one my, blood not at. All another
story reported today comes From tennessee in Early april twenty,
seventeen And nashville witness went to a local hospital for

(02:47:34):
what should have been a routine cat, scan but when
the appointment turned into a deeply unsettling encounter with a,
tall hideous stranger who did not seem to belong. There
what makes this account linger is not only the witness's
description of the man's slit, eyes scarred, skin and fixed,
grin but also later claimed that the scan itself had somehow.

(02:47:56):
Vanished reports of a, bizarre smiling or strangely artificial looking
men have circulated for decades in paranormal AND ufo, folklore
especially in cases later grouped under the grinning men and
men In black. Traditions tennessee also has a long record
OF ufo and high strangeness, reporting including a notable nineteen

(02:48:17):
seventy three wave Across Middle tennessee and beyond. This In
april of twenty, seventeen this person went to a local
house or hospital pardon me In, nashville, because as the person,
SAID i needed a cat. SCAN i was sitting in
the waiting area with a couple of other. People one by,

(02:48:37):
one each person was called back by a. Woman EVENTUALLY
i was the only one, left AND i had been
waiting an unreasonably long, TIME i kept looking, around expecting
someone to come get me for the. Scan after a,
WHILE i became restless and got up to look down
the cat scan, hallway but no one seemed to be,

(02:48:58):
there to another section with a reception, desk but that
area was empty. Too at one POINT i figured they
almost have gone out to, lunch AND i was, irritated
SO i went back and sat. Down a few minutes,
later the hallway door. OPEN i expected to see the
same woman who had been calling patients, in but instead

(02:49:21):
a man stepped. Out the only WAY i could describe
him is that he was bizarre and downright hideous. Looking
he was exceptionally, tall, thin and wore a straight suit and.
Tie his eyes looked like, slits his skin appeared to be,
scarred and he was completely. Bald my first thought was

(02:49:45):
that there was no way this man actually worked. There
he looked so horrid THAT i could not imagine him
being put in front of, patients especially. Children what stood
out the most was his. Grin it was, wide insidious
and deeply. Unnatural oddly, ENOUGH i was not immediately. FRIGHTENED

(02:50:06):
i was more perplexed than anything. ELSE i could not
understand why someone who looked like that would be working
in that. Environment he called out my first, nam and
he took great pains to pronounce it. CAREFULLY i followed
him into the room and sat down on the scan.
Table he moved around the, corner though he kept looking
at me through the. Window then he was. GONE i

(02:50:33):
waited several more minutes until two other men came in
to do the actual. Scan for whatever, REASON i did
not ask them about the strange. Man in, fact the
whole thing slipped from my. MIND a few weeks, LATER
i was at a friend's house when her sister stopped.
By during the, conversation she mentioned that she worked at
the same hospital's radiology. Department that immediately reminded me of

(02:50:55):
WHAT i had, seen SO i asked her who the
bizarre man was working. There she looked confused and told
me she had no idea WHO i was talking. About
about a week, LATER i went to see my doctor
for the. Results he told, Me i'm, sorry this is quite.
Unusual your cat scan is. Missing he explained that both
the scan and the report had vanished and could not be.

(02:51:18):
Found NOW i find myself wondering if that, weird grinting
man had something to do with, it that would freak me.
Out you go to the, doctor you need this. Test
they can't find the, test even though there's record of
you doing the. Test it just doesn't make. Sense but

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