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March 13, 2026 173 mins
Bryan M. Bowden is known in paranormal and UFO communities as an author, researcher, and experiencer who focuses on extraterrestrial contact, consciousness, and human interaction with non-human intelligence. His work often blends personal experiences with broader investigations into UFO phenomena, abduction reports, and metaphysical aspects of contact. Bowden has written about his own encounters and the implications of extraterrestrial interaction with humanity, presenting his perspective through books, interviews, and appearances on paranormal and UFO-focused media. In discussions and presentations, he often explores themes such as the nature of alien beings, the role of consciousness in contact experiences, and how humanity may be evolving alongside these encounters. His work is commonly discussed within the experiencer community, where personal testimony and shared encounters are an important part of the research landscape.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hello and welcome to the radio and podcast side of
spaced Out Radio tonight. My name is Dave Scott. We're
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to talk some monsters tonight, like the Ohio Bigfoot saga.
We're gonna get into that and much much more. We're
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(00:23):
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Speaker 4 (01:24):
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Speaker 2 (01:38):
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(02:40):
you tonight, as Brian both is going to be in here.
We're going to get to the bottom of this Ohio
Bigfoot extravaganza where it seems like they're all teeming up
to head over to Pennsylvania's Chestnut Ridge. Then in our
number three Swamp Dweller, we'll kick things off. We'll follow
that up with UFO, Max, Grant Baker and the UFO Report.

(03:03):
So you hear this guy on the show every now
and again, and probably a lot more often than we
even want on this show. Because Brian Bowden is somebody
who tries to copy my beard. He copies my glasses,
he copies my hairstyle. You know, he is somebody that
is absolutely awesome. I love this guy, and you know what,

(03:24):
when we are in a pinch, Brian is always the
guy who says, call me, I'm there, I'm there. And
so our original guest tonight was supposed to be Daniel
ben Waugh, who was scheduled to come on the show,
but he had an illness. He's ill, and he's like, Dave,
I just can't do it. I can't do it. So

(03:47):
in the last hours before showtime, I like Brian knock, knock, knock, Brian,
and he's like, oh god, Dave, I got to get
up early with my kids to go to school. But now,
you know, nonetheless he's like, yeah, I'll do it. Absolutely.
This guy is a trooper. He is a researcher, he's
an author, he is a documentary and he's a podcaster.

(04:08):
He has literally about seven four and twenty two podcasts
going at once, you know, and he's an experiencer of
the unknown, and he's a good friend of spaced Out
Radio and I love his research when it comes to
the monsters, and I think we're lucky to have and
Brian Bowden. Welcome back to spaced Out Radio by Fred.
How are you.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
I'm doing great, Thank you very much for being here.
A lot of friends in the chat, and it's always
good to be here.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Radio Land loves you too, so make sure you give
them a wave, even though they can't see you. I
can't see me. Radio is great.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
I love the fact that you're on the radio terrestrially,
you know, around and people can listen to this show
all the time.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
It's great. You never say no, and I owe you
a big thank you for that, my man. I realiz
really thank you for that, because you know, this show
is so much better when it's not just me talking. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
I've had a couple of guests lately online my one podcast,
although I'm appearing on a lot of other.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
People's shows these days.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
But one person was filming with Jack Osborne and you know,
you gotta do what you gotta do. And then another
person's family member daughter got sick. So the other day
I planned it out and we were dressed as leprechauns
on my show just to lute Saint Patrick's day it's

(05:39):
coming up.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
So there we were. But yeah, it's it's terrible when
you're talking by yourself. It really is.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
When you're breaking news, like I've seen you do those
little monologues when things are taking place and you're in
the know a lot more than most other people.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
So you know, it's funny. When it's breaking news, I
could totally do it. It just yeah, comes naturally. But
when it is something that is unscripted, I'm like a
deer in headline. Span a deer in headline, it's difficult.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Yeah, I mean, like you know, you plan on talking
about X and then all of a sudden that goes away.
So but what I found, even with my research and
when we go out, we always have a Plan A
and a Plan B, and Plan b's rule. I mean,
there's so much better than Plan as ever will be.
And we really get some good evidence on those Plan b's.

(06:37):
Some of them are really hairy situations. You get really
close to some of these cryptids that you don't want
to really technically exist, but they do, and you live
tell the tale.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Well, let's get right to it here, buddy, and let's
get the audience who may not have heard you before,
because we always do have new people listening in, you know,
and explain your journey into searching for monsters.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
It always started with you know, everybody says it it's
and it's our age or revealing our age, but in
search of the mysterious stuff like UFOs, cryptids, lackness, monster
yetis ghosts, paranormal and also parapsychology, high strangeness. And I
always like the monster movies. One of my favorite movies

(07:28):
in the world is always and will always be American
Werewolf in London. At that point, you know, it was
just fantastic. And then as you get older, you start
reading more, you start you know, going out on your own.
You don't have a date that night, You're like, what
are you going to do tonight? Like, well, I can
go hang out with my buddies, or let's go look
for something. And usually was UFOs or or you know

(07:52):
craft that way, maybe some ghosts because everything growing up
was in your neck of the woods, Pacific north West,
you know, Leonard Nimoy with the turtleneck on. You know,
everything's either in Nepal or Pacific Northwest. I didn't realize
at the time how big this East Coast corridor from

(08:16):
Canada all the way down to Florida, Appalachia, how huge
it is. And my first sighting and it didn't register
because I was ten years old, was in a summer
camp and this I was just talking about this today.
The head of this, this bigfoot literally was almost three
feet wide and it was in the window and is

(08:39):
no more than six inches for my toes. So looking
back on it, I'm like, I really wish I can
kind of go back in time and hey, what's up?
You know, like I would actually try to interact with
the creature at this point, even though it could pull
me through. But it's just a it's just a journey,

(08:59):
and one begets another and gets another and it just
starts happening. I don't really do the ghost stuff as.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Much anymore.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
Because as we all have God given abilities, third eye
or whatever it is, you can start to develop those.
I used to call it remote viewing, but when we
were dealing, when I actually chatted with our psychic for
a group, who's Cindy Bailey Dove out of Arkansas. I said,
I want to explore this, but I don't want to

(09:28):
open a Pandora's box, even though I know it's going
to be. And it was, and she said, you're a
psychic like me, and I kind of backed away from
that for a bit, so I just called it remote viewing.
He said, you can call whatever the hell you want.
But once you start using these abilities and you have
some and there's people in this chat, I'm sure I
have plenty of it. It's like a muscle, you know,

(09:50):
gets stronger and then it gives you. It unlocks and
you know, like new feature unlocked. It's like a video game.
Some of the stuff is pretty freaky, though, when you
can your voices of the departed or you know, audio
and I don't.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
I don't put the Clares in there. I mean, I
think you know, I have Claire Dance and Claire that.
I'm like, I don't care. I'm not there to name
it for people. I just do what I do and
that's it. We've gotten to this journey. I love the Cryptids, though,
you know.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
That's the race. It's funny you say that about the
Claires because yeah, not to put down paranormal people, Okay,
because I love paranormal stories. I love I love my
the ghost adventures that I do at Haunted one toweight.
I love doing all of that. But I almost feel

(10:42):
like I've graduated from paranormal into these other realms of
the phenomena. And yeah, I find looking for sasquatch and
UFOs and aliens way more satisfying and going to say,
can you knock on a wall? Three times? And it

(11:04):
isn't about insulting paranormal people. That's their that's their gig,
that's their stick. You take my buddy Merle for instance, Okay,
Merle has had sasquatch experiences, He's seen a couple of UFOs,
he's seen aliens, Okay, but the paranormal is his thing,
A good arm for it, you know, you know what

(11:25):
I mean. It's very interesting.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
We we did a benefit for Adam whiteed for the
Half Inch Wrench Crew. His house burnt down December first.
They lost everything, so I'm gonna have terrible and and
we were at a Mayis Asylum over in Missouri, and
I've been there. Actually, I got I took home a
hitchhiker from there, because when I was in one of

(11:49):
the buildings, the set building, there's a these two solitary
confinement areas and one of the windows that had like
someone rammed their head into it from the inside. So
that was Albert's room, and he was pissed because he
kept getting put into solitary. And when I was in there,
I don't know if I was picking up on stuff

(12:10):
or whatever, but I felt bad for this guy because
I wouldn't want to be constantly in solitary. And I
think he, you know, like I like this guy, and
he went with me to Arkansas. And if it wasn't
for a friend of mine calling that that is she's
really connected. Her and I like brother and sister but
different parents. And she called me up. I'm on the

(12:33):
road and I'm kind of, you know, like I don't know,
I'm foggy, and she goes, what's up, Odin, And I'm like,
and what goes, something's up?

Speaker 2 (12:41):
What's going on? What were you doing?

Speaker 5 (12:43):
And I said, I just came back from this place,
and she goes, that's it. You need to rebuke it
right now. And once I said, I rebuke it, which
I have no problems with doing It was like a
night and day, Dave. I mean like literally night and day.
I almost ran off the road in Arkansas, no kidding,
that's how ill focused I was. So but I went

(13:05):
back there and I was trying to conduct an active
intelligent encounter, you know, which is you guys will call
it a CE five. But I've never been to a
place beautiful skies. We know where the pattern of traffic
was during the day and summ at night, and then
it was dead. I've never been to a place it's dead.

(13:28):
There's always some kind of traffic it's satellite or something,
and this place was like nop. So it was interesting.
But I love that that cryptid. I don't need, you know,
turn on the flashlight. I don't need you to turn
on the flashlight. I've actually talked to departed people, you know,
while I'm you know, helping someone stop on aliving themselves,

(13:53):
I somehow they come my way, and I'm always I've
helped dozens of people stop from hurting themselves, and in
the process, I'm actually seeing some of their family members
that they're missing, and I hear it. Sometimes it's real
audio and other times you can hear them you can
see the mouth move and you can hear it. It's

(14:13):
it's it's kind of hard to explain, and I describe
them for the person because I've never met these people before,
and they go, yeah, you know, and exactly to a t.
And I've stopped people from doing it, and I've put
them on a different path.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
So I don't need the.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
Ghost like going on, and I don't need someone pulling
my hair, you know, and I don't need that crap.
Pardon the expression, but when you have an eight nine
foot bipedal, you know something that gets you jazzed real
real quick.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Explain what it's like to have a close encounter.

Speaker 5 (14:54):
Of a bigfoot or or a dog man or not
that I'm I'm mister tough guy. Everybody's kind of tough.
But when you feel the weight of what's moving the ground,
you it's kind of hard to describe, but you feel

(15:14):
its presence and it's massive, and you know what starts
out as well, you know, yeah, I really want to
see one of these things, and then you you realize
how big this is and you kind of like, well,
let's pull back a little bit here. It's very intense,
It can be very very intense, and I've investigated from Canada,

(15:39):
actually the UK Canada, down to Florida into the midwest
of it Hawaii. There's nothing in Hawaii. There's nothing in
Hawaii except for Duke's which is a great place.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
To go to.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
But you you got to pull back a bit. But
it's really interesting. I'm thoroughly convinced that if you have
an encounter where no matter where, you have your encounter,
and if you've had several of them, I know that
for a fact, and they play with you and sometimes
they'll throw stones at you and you go to another

(16:16):
area and have an encounter, I really thoroughly believe that
there's like some kind of central knowledge base or oh
that's Dave, that's the guy over there, okay, and somehow,
because once you have that experience, they know that you're
not a bad person, you're not gonna do something stupid,
your good energy. I think they transmit that or they

(16:37):
log at someplace and they all tap into it.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Because I have all.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
These other experiences, Like in Florida, I had one checking
me out while I was sleeping.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
I was so tired.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
It was a long, long night and I didn't care.
But I saw the breath go down the condensation on
the outside of the vehicle, and I'm like, you can
watch me all you want. But as soon as I
got there, they start throwing stuff on my tent. And
it wasn't Some people have gotten like real tree limbs
thrown at him, you know. So sometimes it's violent. They

(17:11):
don't want you there. If they don't want you to,
they'll let you know. But it's never been that way
with me. I don't know if you've experienced the same thing,
Like you go to another area and like, oh yeah,
it's the same thing.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I have only ever had one rock thrown at me.
One no more, no less. I don't know whether I'm
lucky or I don't know whether I'm I'm in or
how about acorns like one rock, dude, one rock. I

(17:43):
don't get rocks thrown. Actually I had a boulder thrown
at me because I think he was pissed we didn't leave.
He was like, the hell have you.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
Guys, I'm out of here, and with reason, we weren't
backing away from all of the advances. We had a
bluff charge, we had whoops, I mean it it was
right near us. I didn't actually, I mean I saw
a little bit of a different shape because it was
really dark in the woods. We didn't have light because
we weren't really supposed to be there. We didn't want

(18:11):
to get caught by the forestry people. I don't advise
anybody for breaking the law. I was just gonna state
that right there. The opinions expressed by the guests are
not necessarily those of space out radio. But you it's
just this thing is so massive that when it comes

(18:33):
through the forest and it's pissed, it's knocking down stuff
like it's nothing, really nothing, and it's a lot of energy,
it's a lot of movement. We had definitely had some
kind of infra sound or something because it was so
much pressure in the air.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
It felt like this pressure ift of pressure.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
And I wasn't bowing to it, and one of the
other guys I was wasn't bowing really to it. I
mean they felt it, and he was, you know, wiggling
his ears and stuff. But it's it's an experience I
wish everybody can have so they understand how how massive
this is. No matter if it's six feet tall or

(19:16):
if it's you know, fifteen feet tall.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
It's cool. Oh, I get that I get that, you know.
I would say the most intimidated that I have been
around them was when last year, really really close to us,
maybe within forty yards, were the tree docks and the

(19:41):
oh yeah, and the violent tree docks. Like I've heard
tree knocks way off in the distance. Okay, So if
people are wondering what a tree knock is, it's alleged
that sasquatch will take like a like a tree branch
or something or a rock and they will slam it
against a tree and it'll it'll sound like a knocking.

(20:01):
So if I come up to you and then way
off in the distance, you'll hear, you know. And this
one being so violent and so close. Now, I call
it violent because it sounded violent.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
Okay, So that's a heavy hand hitting it. That's whatever
they're using, be it their hand or because some people
say it's the hand that's smacking the tree, which I
find it very odd, or but they're picking up a
big piece of wood to hit another tree with to
make that sound.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
It is violent. Absolutely, we looked the like I jumped
out of my chair, okay, because it was just me
and my First Nation's friend Lalie, who were there and
This happened about three minutes after she stopped drumming and singing.
Oh maybe they want to more. I well, I could

(21:02):
tell you it's scared the living daylights out of us. Right.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
Well, so last after a conference last September where a
Mayas is on the other side, like you know, about
a quarter of a mile or more, they have these
other houses and one of them was a bed and breakfast,
right and I was tired.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
So I was with my friend Christa.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
From Blondz and Booze and we're just sitting in the
parking lot just trying to chill while everybody else is
over to Mayis and no more than probably twenty yards
from where we were sitting, a real loud tree knock,
like you just said, to the point where we were
just it was a real quick light and she was like,

(21:46):
that's really close. I'm like, that's super close, because think
about it, if you have a six to ten foot
bipedal whatever it is. And by the way, dog Man
does tree knocks too, just so you know they mimic.
They do tree knocks. They do a lot of what
BigMan does. You know that thing is close if it

(22:09):
wanted to within a split second, before you could react,
it could come and grab you and then you're whatever.
But it's not.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
It's warning whatever.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
They're warning their family members, their tribe there, whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Pay pay attention.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
But as soon as that tree knock went to the
right of us, probably about a quarter a mile a
little bit or third of a mile on the same property,
was whoo. And then after that we heard it the response,
and then we saw dancing lights going in the woods,
some dancing lights. It was great, great experience because my

(22:47):
friend never heard that before. She's a paranormal person. And
I love when paranormal people get into the cryptid side
of it and vice versa.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
I think it's amazing and you have that, you know.
I I just think that insitant may have scared Lolly
from going back. I really do believe that it may
have scared her from going back. And it is something
that I monitor. It really is something that I monitor
because I'm always asking are you ready? Are you ready?

(23:20):
And she said no, no, I'm not. I you know.

Speaker 5 (23:24):
It's it's I'll tell you the truth. It's okay to
be scared. Yes, And here here he gets, you know.
I always like going out with females on an investigation
BV seasoned or not. Because one they look good, they
smell good, and they cycle. I'm gonna be brutally honest

(23:47):
with you. So if they're going through their cycle, it
that you know, these being smelled that and they could
smell this stuff a mile away and that attracts them.
The only time I gets nervous is if you get
Sometimes we get and I think it's younger ones and
they get real excited and they start doing them. It's

(24:10):
almost like a monkey bar, you know, they get really crazy.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, let's hold that thought, Brian, because we are going
to go break here. Brian Bowden is here. Third Eye
Live is one of his many many podcasts that he
has broadcasting out there on YouTube land. When we come
back the Ohio Bigfoot Sightings, Apparently some people out there

(24:36):
are getting a little jittery over Sasquatch Smoky Mountain. Wonder
how you want doing? Nice to have you back U.

(25:02):
I'm not scared of base Balltimore night. I expect the
Americans to win. If you looked at their lineup.

Speaker 5 (25:08):
That is a great name, by the way, Julie Delicious Jewels.
Luscious Jewels, Yes, awesome. I like this one.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
By Kmart another blue Light special super chat right there.
Kmart's name ranks up there for me with dry toastry toast.
Dry toast is awesome.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
Yes, you know what I've noticed on some of the stuff,
the stream yard stuff. Hmm, it doesn't propagate as quickly

(25:57):
as phone or whatever. I was saying out having a
problem with it. I only care about the audio.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, No, I know.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
What.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
He was good. My poor little dude is so sick. Man,
he's missed the last three days of school. Why just
Scott his fever's finally he finally cracked his fever. Today.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
I'm gonna send you something through text. It's called the
Bowden curoll. It works. It worked very well.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
I jacked myself up on Adville, colden sinus and hot
sauce today. I'm fine, that'll do it. Yep, went in.
Don't you know my dad had My dad had bronchi
like the onset of bronchitis a few weeks ago, and

(27:12):
I FaceTime and he's I'm like, how are you feeling?
And he's like, oh, my throat's so dry. I feel
like Dad. I said, go eat some hot sauce. Go
eat some hot sauce. Burn that shit away, right, And
I was surprised that he took my advice because outside

(27:33):
of garlic, my dad doesn't eat anything spicy right right,
And so does it. The next day in the morning,
reaches out to me and says, holy cow. I said,
we'll do it again tonight. And he did it for

(27:53):
three days and it was gone. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
The peppers are really good to get rid of of
things out of your bloodstream, as well as the Yeah,
they burn away stuff.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Hi a Aaron the tree Guru, How you doing, super Duke?
How you doing an an? Yeah? I saw that. That
is still the greatest, one of the greatest skits ever.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, the nice nice geen night you're playing
with me?

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Go to Oh Shag? What is oh Shag? Hennessey's officers.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
O Jack Gavinth Oh man, it's it's it's genius.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Actually, it is genius. Those guys are great. It's you know,
have you ever seen them do there? Have you ever
seen them do their football roll call? Oh my god,
it's hysterical. Oh my god. That is the best. That
is come completely the best.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
I'd love to go take those guys out, you know,
on a real like like a bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Thing, just to see the reaction. I agree, Yeah, I
think that would be great. He used to do it.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
You used to have a show that did that with celebrities.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
I hated those shows. Yeah, well, see that's how how
people like what's her name? The former Disney star gets
a UFO show and can call them in by singing
to them. Uh yeah, well.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
That's a totally different, different show for a different network.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I hear you, But that's how it happens. And do
we really no offense? Do we really need to see
Ricky Lake or Carnie Wilson on any more of these
UFO ghost shows? We know? I'll tell you what. What's
his name?

Speaker 5 (29:56):
Robelo and his kids? It was interesting. It wasn't that bad.
That one wasn't bad.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
But I I do appreciate.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
Yeah, it's Demi Lovato, I mean, but I do appreciate
what Jack Osborne does.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
I do that too. We gotta get going here, dud.

(30:36):
Second half hour of Spaced Out Radio is Dow under Way.
Good to have you with us. My name is Dave Scott.
We got Brian Bowden in the hot seat. We're gonna
find out about all of these UFO not UFO Sasquat
sightings in Ohio recently. But first we want to remind
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(30:57):
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(31:20):
We recently have been having a slew of sightings in
what do they call that northeastern northeast Ohio. Northeastern Ohio
pointed towards Pennsylvania, and so far, according to Bigfoot Society
on YouTube there it has been eight sightings in the

(31:40):
last seven days. What do you think's going on?

Speaker 5 (31:45):
The sightings are interesting because from if I'm correct about it,
there was someone driving in a car and it was
I forgot what road it was. They were literally on
one of those roads side roads and this six foot
brown sasquatch was walking on the road and it was
almost daylight hours. It's interesting because have you checked that.

(32:08):
The timeframes, I mean the sighting sightings were twelve thirty pm,
ten fifty two pm, ten twenty am, eleven forty seven am,
and six pm.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
And I will tell you.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
Not that they are totally nocturnal, but that is very
aggressive for them to be going out in daylight in
public areas. So I think it may be a migration
pulling them down to another area, or something happened where
they were in the northern portion and they're getting out

(32:45):
of there. I don't because you're not going to expose
yourself to humans if unless there is a reason behind it.
In my opinion, that a real dangerous spot right there.
Here's my thing with that six footer sighting, because I've

(33:07):
read that, you know, one of them was close to
ten feet. There was the six footer sighting. There was
an eight footer sighting. Okay.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
The way she the lady who witnessed the six foot
sighting that on that little lane she was driving on. Okay,
he she said it was very thin and about six
feet tall, and to me, that could be somebody in

(33:38):
a costume. I wish there was footage of seeing them walk.
If we could see them walk, we would be able
to tell right away, because the one thing a human
can't do, Brian is walk like a sasquatch. If we
use the famed Pattison Gimlin film as the the best

(34:00):
evidence that we have of them walking, I agree with that.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
I mean, I think some of these may be copycats
for whatever reason, but it is not unheard of them
moving different locations. The problem I have with it is
actually the timeframes that that's daylight hours. All this stuff
is daylight hours. These creatures, well I don't I mean,

(34:29):
I've been there. You'll catch them dusk dawn, you know,
late night cut across the road or something like that,
and they're doing that one step like it's one to
two steps. But they're not going to walk along the
roadway during daylight hours. So something is saying to me
that there is an event taking place that warrants them

(34:53):
to get out fast, kind of like a bug out.
But I don't know, you know, the main area of
point of where they are. And then again it could
be that maybe they're getting some kind of message that
help is needed south or closer to PA, you know,

(35:17):
and they're on the move to do something with another
I don't know, it's.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Either something going on, or this could be the epitome
of a big hoax, and I'm hoping it's not the hoax,
because this is really cool, Brian, this is really cool.
This is super cool.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
Jody was I was kind of texting me and he
did a lot of investigation in the eighties in that area. Yeah,
and he has a lot of reports, original reports from
Triple County. So there are reports of these things in
the area. But I'm telling you that just from years
of knowing this and seeing this, they don't come out

(36:03):
in the day unless something is major. And maybe there's
something going on in the forest out in Ohio, maybe
there's poison for some kind of spill, who knows, and
they want to get away from it because that's I mean,

(36:23):
it's super dangerous. They don't they don't like coming near humans.
They don't want to be in the ear us. We're violent,
you know. So, but that the potential for somebody to
get in a sasquatch suit and walk, you know, just
to get a little you know, their rocks off, is
right there as well. I'd have to go out to

(36:46):
the area and start interviewing people, and you know, I've
seen some videos real lately it's it's the standard sasquatch
costume you buy from a costume supply. It's got that weird,
crappy like plastically head thing, and it's just the face
is just not right, you know. It's just interesting. But yeah,

(37:12):
it could be. It could be partially a hoax. There
are people that see it out there all the time.
I know some people in Ohio and not as east
as you know, more go a third into the state.
I know people that have family out there that have
farms and they see them all the time. They'll come out,

(37:33):
they'll you know, they're if they're planting certain foods, they
come out and grab them, which is pretty interesting. You know,
I'd love that. I need a cavin like that. Actually
there's one in New York that's like that. Getting to
these sightings. Look, i know Bigfoot is sighted during the day.
My first sighting with the two creatures one hundred feet apart,

(37:57):
was in the middle of the afternoon around in a one, two,
three o'clock in the afternoon. I'm very okay with you know, daytime, nighttime.
I know they more are nocturnal type creatures and especially
start to get active in the evening.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
You know.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
If there was something bugging them, Brian, what could be
the story? Would it be another monster, would it be
something natural? Dougways, dog men.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
So I'm gonna go with something we did on my
show before the end of the year. We did a
prediction show. And one of the predictions when I sat
there to get ready for the show to give my predictions,
I predicted earthquakes and almost I don't want to say

(38:53):
underground volcanoes, super volcanoes, but there's a large, massive, a
bit of heat or whatever magma that's underneath and it's
moving in that direction. And I predicted earthquakes in strange
areas like in the Ohio in New York and Pennsylvania

(39:16):
and up by the you know, the lakes, and maybe
something's brewing and this is taking place, Maybe there is
something going on underneath and they're getting out of the area.
Because yes, they do have daytime sightings. I mean, you know,
these do happen, but depends on the density of the population.

(39:42):
You know, it's really dangerous to reveal yourself to individuals
that you know are violent. They have these metal machines
they drive, you know, knives, guns, whatever.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
It's not a safe thing.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
I mean, I don't know about gugways and all that
other that's becoming bigger. A lot of people are saying
they're seeing werewolves, and I think that's a mis sighting,
misidentification for the most part, because a werewolf is somebody
that can transform into it. And I know, I mean,

(40:24):
I believe people when they say it. They believe it.
They say it, but it doesn't make sense. There's no
rhyme or reason behind why would there be werewolves now?
Like somebody is trying to make another market for us.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
And I think what people are doing, my friend, is
they are actually they are actually separating the dog men
from werewolves because were wolves are a much more sexy monster.
It's kind of like going from UFO to UAP or
alien to NHI.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
So okay, so the UFO to UAP, that is a narrative,
and that's an authority figure trying to control it.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
No, I get I get that, But I think it's
easier for people. Let me rephrase. Okay, so not sound
like an idiot here, Okay, I think maybe it's easier
for people to correspond with a werewolf than it is
a dog man. Most people have heard of a werewolf.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
Right, but yeah, and I understand that and totally got that.
When I describe when people say what is a dog man?
I always say, you have you seen Van Helsing the movie?
And they like, yeah, you know the werewolves in it,
Like yeah, that's what it looks like most of the time,

(41:48):
and they're like no, and I'm like, yeah, I still
have two people that don't talk to me. It's been
three years or something like that. But so I do
use the term werewolf. But if you're in the field,
you know, werewolves are something that transform into and that
none of these the gin will transform into whatever the

(42:10):
heck they want, so they'll transform. And then you have
others in the indigenous folklore, the Navajo skinwalker wind to
Goes No wind to Gooes are another creates.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
It's just a.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
It's a grotesque, bastard demon of the Navo nation. They
don't transform as much. So if that's what they were doing, fine.
I always think of this when I hear this, someone's
trying to make a buck someplace.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Well, I can tell you north of me about forty
five fifty minutes. One of my investigator friends, she is
she'll be joining me on flight twenty one later in
a couple months and she's joining our team at Haunted
one Away. Angelina has an area that she investigates. Used

(43:06):
to be going up there for a lot of paranormal
activity because she's really a paranormal person, right, And then recently,
as in October, people started hearing and allegedly seeing were
wolves around there or wear wolf pardon me, and Angelina

(43:28):
pulled up her and her friend Tara pulled up to
one of these people who were sitting there in their
vehicle and she's like, hey, anything going on tonight in
the forest? Everything quiet up here, and he goes, no,
we were just listening to the werewolf.

Speaker 5 (43:46):
So okay, so I think they're missed. They're calling it
a were wolf. I agree, like it, but yeah, it's
probably a dog man.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
I agree. Here's the coolest thing.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
So I'm gonna go back to that set last Saturday night,
last Friday night. We're you know, getting set up for
this this benefit, and there are kids that live off
the property. They live on the other side where the
airbnbs are, and this one kid, it's dark.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
He is terrified. I'm like, are you okay? I can't
find my mom. I can't find my mom, right you.

Speaker 5 (44:17):
Know, this is how all these movies, these like horror
films start, some kids in trouble whatever, like let's go.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Hang out with the you know, the chain saus.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
So what was interesting is, and this goes back to
I'll tell you afterwards.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
So two of the ladies.

Speaker 5 (44:35):
You know, kids are are better with with the women
approaching than men.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
They may they may be a little bit fearful.

Speaker 5 (44:41):
So they of course they went into overdrive and they're
walking them back to the across the road, and they said, oh,
do you like Bigfoot and whatever? And he goes, Nan,
I don't believe in any of that stuff or the ghosts.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
We have.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
We have a two legged dog by me, two legged dog.
He's he sees the dog man on the other side
of the road all the time.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Here's where it gets interesting. His house is.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
I don't know, fifty yards max, maybe from where the
AIRBNBI stayed in. And if you go out the we
have to go in through the back door. If you
go out the back door and you go up twenty yards.
Last year they found a nineteen inch dog man print. No, yeah,

(45:33):
that's big, nineteen inches. And what was interesting is I
was sleeping on a chair leather chair next to me
with big of Michigan Rob. Rob was sleeping. He was
in the cabin snoring up a freaking storm. So I
got up in the middle of the night and I
wanted to get my headphones because I can't sleep with that.
I was just cracking up. And I'm telling you, I

(45:55):
saw something peeking in the window, which was they didn't
have shades on it. It just had like a very
sheer white I don't know what you want to call it.
And I just it looked like something was peeking in
big snout and if it was peeking in on its hind.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Legs, it would easily be.

Speaker 5 (46:18):
Probably eight nine feet tall, because I know where I
would fit in there. I'm six to one and it
was probably three feet taller than me. So it all
all these things add up to, you know, dog man.
And when they say I have a two foot dog,
you know, you know most people say, oh, that's you know,

(46:38):
like it is a dog injured. No, they're they're not
thinking like we would think. But the wareold thing, Yeah,
I get it. And I still don't like seeing them
up close and personal. I still think they're freaking aggressive,
But this one seems to be coexisting in that area.
So on the side of the road across from the asylum.

(47:03):
This thing doesn't hunt too far into the woods of
the asylum.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
And I think that's because there's bigfoots in there too.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
I always said if you have if you have bigfoot
in the area, you're gonna get dogmen. And if you
have dogmen, you're gonna get rake. That's how it works.
The rakes love messing with a dogmin for some reason.
They don't mess with bigfoot, but they will mess with
the dogmen.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
For our audience who may not know, explain what a
rake is.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
If you may know him commonly as a creepy crawler.
It's kind of like an eloginated white, pale body.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
And their arms are their fit.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
It looks like they have features of the face, but
it's like skin over it looks like the skin over it.
And their arms almost come into like look like razor blades,
long jetting blades. And that's how they walk as if
you show somebody on stilts trying to do a scary thing.
But the crazy thing about those those cryptids One they're

(48:10):
super freaking aggressive.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
They will come at you.

Speaker 5 (48:15):
And two I know of someone in Texas that had
one at the window trying to get him to come out.
When he was thirteen and he went in his house
on it was his birthday, and he goes, okay, and
he got the courage up, took the Mini fourteen out,
four hundred rounds in it, went out the house and
point blank basically and put a couple hundred rounds in him.

(48:39):
And then as it ran down, it did it again.
And his dad came out yelling at him like, what
the heck are you doing, you know whatever, and he
explained it that thing was back. The dad, of course,
didn't believe it. Ghost stories right until he saw the
blood trail and it was pitch black blood and whatever
was he put four hundred rounds in this thing. You know,

(49:01):
if you're in Texas and you grow up with firearms,
you're a pretty good shot. Okay, I'm just gonna say
it straight up. And they're live in off like like
property that's kind of off grid, you're going to be
a good shot. And little kids usually, you know, younger
kids are pretty good at it video game wise too,

(49:21):
So if this thing got up twice, they're hard to
take out, very hard to take out.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
So that get I don't know if you're And you
know what, that brings up a good point because a
lot of people will say, you know, the skeptics out
there will say, Brian, Okay, why don't we just shoot
a big foot, Why don't we just shoot a dog man?
Let's kill it and get it down. I mean, people
have shot these things. There's never been a body found.

(49:51):
I don't care what anybody says about Well, what about
the guy who says he had one in the freezer
or the bigfoot head in the in the giant frozen crypt.
You know, they've all been proven to be fake. Yeah,
they've all been proven to be fake. Okay. And the
point that I'm getting at is a lot of these
people who don't understand this creature or these creatures. I

(50:14):
don't think they can be killed by firearms. They may
take a bullet, because I do believe that they are
a combination of flesh and blood but have these supernatural abilities.
That's my opinion, and I don't think that they could
be killed by a bullet.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
I will tell you our old friend, Butch Watowski, he
was investigating stuff and one of the things I think
that saved my butt when I was like twelve to
fifteen feet from one is. I had three machetes on me.
They know the long blade. See if I'm just gonna
give you an example, and someone said, that's a lot

(50:54):
of rounds for many fourteen not if you have a
double clip and you flip it whatever, it's really not
that much. Welcome to Texas. They take their amo seriously.
If you go shooting hunting for bear, I'm in a
moose or some of these, you know, even alt they
have so much skin in the front that even doesn't

(51:15):
no matter what you're using with your your firestick, it's
going to put holes in them, but it's not necessarily
going to take him down. But if you went up
to that same animal and you had a machete and
you sliced it, it would cut it right in half. That's
that's the big difference. And with dogmen there's so much
chest x you know, skeleton there and meat that if

(51:40):
you got to get it through the side, you got
to get it in the nostril, through the eyelid, you know,
the eyeball. Otherwise you're not getting it and you're just
gonna piss it off. That's why they even tell you
don't do it because I don't think unless they're you know,
I don't know, on the hunt, or you do something stupid.

(52:01):
I don't think anymore that they're really going to attack you.
They know what attacking humans will get them.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
So but yeah, I would agree with you or as
we got about two minutes ago, I do think that
these creatures are smart enough to know the dangers of humans.
I completely get that, you know, I just don't think that,
you know, to answer the questionable where's the bodies? You

(52:32):
know they must die even of natural causes. Well, we
know nature is the biggest fixer cleaner upper. You know,
it works better than mister clean. You know what I'm saying.
I mean, I've found I've found in my life two
bare skeletons, okay with the hides. Still, we're a lucky man.
That's like hitting the lottery. Yeah, yeah, I wish it

(52:54):
was the lottery. I'd prefer the lottery. Right, it meets too,
I mean, I mean the sad part was one was poached. Okay,
that's messed up. Yeah and it was, but.

Speaker 5 (53:08):
You yeah, it's but what what if these these creatures
have an innate ability that when they are when they
pass on they I don't know, disappear like like I'm
gonna I'm going to give you a stupid example of it,
and it's so bad. But you know, when they killed

(53:28):
Obi Wan Kenobi, he disappeared. Maybe they have the ability
if if I believe they have an innate ability to
go from flesh and blood, interdimensional and other in between.
What's to say that when something finally passes away, it
doesn't kind of you know, dissolve or or go into

(53:52):
dimensional and travel wherever.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
And that. But that's what I'm saying. I don't think
it can be ruled out. I do believe, like a
lot of people will say, well, it's got to be
flesh and blood or it has to be the other.
Why can't it be a combination of both. People have
claimed to have you know, made aliens bleed. Oh yeah, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 5 (54:14):
If it has some kind of blood in whatever it is,
be it our blood or you know, the red blood
done or something silicon based whatever. If I'm gonna go
with Arnold swartzing, if it bleeds, you can kill it.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
And a lot of these things bleed. And on that note,
I'm gonna get you to hold on right there, we're
already one hour down, one hour to go with Brian Bowden,
the Man, the Myth, the podcast legend. They'll sign an
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(54:56):
Out Radio with Hopes, Dave Scott, Buddy, that's why you
carry a sharpie with you at all times. Here it

(55:17):
is Triple Gem Shining. Welcome to sour Chat. Who do
I making out to? What does this say? The hell folks,
I've just seen a big foot in my backyard. We've
got woods back there and Eric Howell and then a
thud and saw a big ten foot, big fat running

(55:37):
couldn't manage it. Oh yeah, I don't know where you.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
I don't know where Triple Gem Shining is out of.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
So well, let me tell you this. It wasn't me
because I ain't ten feet. I may be fat, but
I ain't ten feet. Brian, I'm gonna put you in
the background. I'll be right back, okay, all right, five,

(59:47):
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We got some great speakers coming on up and we'd
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Oh good whistling, Mike, how you doing? Nice to see you.

(01:00:49):
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we were talking about monsters and oh, you know, where's
the bodies? Where are they? What the heck are they doing?

(01:02:40):
It really is a mystery for what people are seeing
Briden Right.

Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
I mean, Paramov brought up a point that you know
is I don't know if he was watching or seeing it,
but body usually takes about seven days to decompose and
get and get taken care of in the forest. So
I mean that's a lot of food, a lot of
vendors coming over to nourish, you know, get their nourishment.

(01:03:09):
These big foots, you would least get some kind of bones, right,
I mean, you should find some skeletal remains, unless let's
go back to the Hio Ohio thing. So maybe they
are so tribe to ask that when one passes away,

(01:03:29):
they all pay homage to the the one that passes
and they'll they'll collect the pieces and take them, you know,
to a burialtal site or something. There are people that
claim there are bury burial sites around the entire country
of Bigfoot. Then again, maybe they take them back to

(01:03:54):
once they came, which is a different dimension, you know,
I don't you know, I wish I knew it would
be very interesting to find out and find a you know,
a big Foot someplace. But the minute you I mean,
I've always had you've asked this question, if you had
the defendive proof, you'd be one of the very few

(01:04:18):
people that would be getting a preview of it. And
unless you're doing a mej you know, PR conference, news conference,
and you know, with medical staff there to examine what
you're bringing forward, you won't have it long. The government

(01:04:38):
will take it from you for whatever their reasons. So
who knows.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
I don't know what to think about it. I know
what I want to think, okay, But it doesn't mean
that what I think is going to be true, or
you know, if the Flesh and Blood Crew is going
to be very true as well. I mean, until we
get a body, Brian, until we get a body of
a bigfoot or a dog man or a gnome, and

(01:05:10):
we're not going to we're not going to know. We're
not going to know.

Speaker 5 (01:05:15):
I mean, I've seen people with what looks like bodies
of fairies or the fay literally looks like them. I
have actual images that were sent to me by I
couldn't even tell you who, because it's all zero's in
their their idea, and there are pictures of fairies or

(01:05:40):
or old photos of fairies.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:05:44):
I'm sure the Smithsonian has their fair share of the
stuff and locked up and have been doing studies on it.
And then the military would would want to pick up
like you know, hmm, what if we can take you know,
create a super soldier from this, let's take the end whatever.
Because someone contacted me many many years ago probab about

(01:06:06):
fifteen plus and government number or whatever. I don't give
my phone number out, so you have to know exactly
how to get to me. This is my cell phone,
not my home phone. And they were like military ferries
that could be good too, And they said, oh, you
don't believe in it. And they told me that they

(01:06:27):
this is what their job is in the military. They
protect bases from these these different variety cryptids. If there's
an event, they organize and go there, kind of like
what took place in Colorado, probably like two years ago,
I think it was where they said that every time

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I hear a mauling story, two people were mulled by
a big cat. Yeah, okay, right, we had one in
Florida on the west coast of Florida. There was a
grandfather and grandson that were killed in their RV, apparently

(01:07:10):
by a bear. Have you ever tried to open up
an RV door with a posable thumbs?

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
No, But if a be bear gets it where, I'll
defend that one. If a bear is able, especially a
grizzly bear, is able to get its claws in the
top of the door, it does have his strength to
rip the door off. Yeah, but we're not talking about
grizzly bears down to Florida. True.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
I mean, they're bears, but they're not even they're not
as big as you know black bears. There's I think
they're smaller than black bears down here. It just didn't
sound right. I can't say it better than that. You know,
when you get a feeling no, that's not right. Somebody's

(01:07:57):
not telling the truth here tonight. So it's it's just
an interesting, you know concept. But yeah, they go investigate it.
They seal off areas, they pull things out, just like
you know the stories of the Condo Hair giant Conda her.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Sorry, there are soldiers that have.

Speaker 5 (01:08:19):
Been on what is it Sean Ryan talking about it,
that met people that were involved in the extraction of
a giant out of condo hair Condahar. Yes, I mean,
I don't expect anything less from these governments around the world,
no matter whose it is. You know, they're gonna do

(01:08:42):
some crazy things.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Do you think then, with these creatures, let's just say,
by chance, they are dimensional beings. Okay, okay, and not
just Bigfoot, but but the other ones as well, whether
it's moth Man or whatever. Do you think they have

(01:09:06):
these dimensional portals in the forests that just open up
because nature's a good place to hide.

Speaker 5 (01:09:17):
So when you get into portals, what's very interesting. I
think they're able to open portals and I'm going only
by when I studied physics and we're just starting the
quantum stuff, and the theories were running rampant to go
from point A to point B two miles down the

(01:09:39):
road in an instant in theory Einstein's you know bridge,
Einstein Rosen Bridge and all this stuff. What you're doing
is you're bending space time together. And then when I
open a door here, I'm going in here, it's two seconds.
I mean it's less than a segment, so as possible

(01:10:00):
through physics. So why would this If this creature has
an inate ability to change its mouth, its physical structure
into a different type of form of energy, then going
into dimensional portals are going to be used. Now there
are other creatures. I know people that went to land
between the lakes and they heard what sounded like a

(01:10:27):
metal door opening, you know, like you know when you
rub like a steel door against a frame, sometimes it opens,
it makes a certain sound, but it was a lot louder.
And then next thing you know, they saw something that
looked like a portal and things were coming out of it,
specifically rakes by the way at this point, and one
of them fought them off. One person who's never drawn

(01:10:51):
his firearm in his life had it drawn and the
other person who all she uses his bare spray, started
playing at it as they were coming towards them, and
apparently the bear spray, did you know, it was enough
to back them away and it changed their whole entire life.

(01:11:12):
So yeah, portals do open up in the middle of nowhere.
We you know, we have lay lines for a reason.
People made sacred sites out of these areas for a
purpose and a reason because things like this have happened
since the beginning of time and they will continue to happen.

(01:11:33):
We can't explain it yet because we can't even wrap
our head around quantum physics. But I think once quantum
physics really starts to take off and we start having
quantum filters and whatever, you're going to see a lot
more things available and that you never would have expected.

(01:11:53):
Whereas kids born at a certain age later past here,
they're gonna be like, oh, it's just a portal, what
do you say, freaked out about? So that will happen.
I mean, I've opened up a portal in a in
a stone chamber in the landscapes of New York State

(01:12:14):
by using sound frequency, you know, singing bowls, and I
just I just boom all all, you know, just kept
going with the heart chakra and the crown, and this
portal did appear on the fleer, and I'm like, I
think we just opened up a portal. My buddy's looking

(01:12:36):
at the fleer, I'm looking at it, and then something
peaked its head in or a split second, I go,
did you just see that something peaked into that portal?
Whether it was in the portal or outside of the portal,
I don't know, But I also know that I don't
play around with portals where I mean, I'll be investigating

(01:12:58):
a couple of sites in state of Florida that have portals,
and we're going to I told the individuals involved, no
one's going through it but a drone. We will send
a drone in it. But I'm not letting anybody go
through it. Because I know of somebody who was on

(01:13:18):
a you know, was doing an investigation in the Dirty
South we'll call it, and a portal opened up and
they were at one part of the team was at
a distance, the other part was they saw it. They
went into the portal, they totally disappeared from the fleer.

(01:13:39):
That is virtually impossible if you're giving off a heat signature,
and then a moment later they came out on the
other side. There were three people, and each one of
these people died of really horrible death thereafter, not long thereafter.
So you know, I've seen staircases in the woods. Oh

(01:14:02):
those freak me out. Those freak me freaking out. Do
so tell about before you get into that. For people
who may not have heard this, the legend of the
staircases in the woods is if you find a staircase
that's just sitting there, and it can't be too a
place that used to exist there, like a home or

(01:14:23):
a cabin or anything like that. It's just a stairwell
and it looks very old and very unique. And legend
has it that if you find this stairwell and you
make it to the top, you enter a different dimension
and can ever come back. Yep, you've seen that. I've

(01:14:43):
seen staircases. Yeah, and and let me tell you something.
Some of them are not that high. It's like seven
eight steps. How many of you seen. I'm actually going
to one days one. So my my oldest her boyfriend
does boy scout camp in a state park over here

(01:15:08):
in Florida, not that far from me. And I know
the park and he goes, it's really creepy. I said,
have you you know I always asked the paranormal questions.
It's like now this it's just odd. It feels unnerving there,
and I was. I went into another store, which was
like an outfitter store, an outdoor store, and the guy

(01:15:31):
that was running it, he said, yeah, he found out
I did paranormal stuff. And then we started talking. He goes, yeah,
if you go to this park, Jonathan Dickinson, there's a staircase.
I said, don't go on those. He goes, no, we don't.
You know, it's always like a game we played. I said,

(01:15:53):
you may not like that because people have disappeared. And
if you're with people and someone disappeared, you're all the suspect.
Get it very true? Now, this is where those drones
come in handy. If you have a drone, you can
fly it into the into the portal and maybe you'll

(01:16:16):
get something brought back. But I've also been in the
woods where when you know, when you go out to
your the site, you know the twenty one yes, and
where you go to your sasquat sites, there are certain
sounds of the woods that should be standard, you know,
like some of the birds, crickets, other noises. I've been

(01:16:40):
in situations where I'm walking, we're doing the you know
the bigfoot look, you know, investigations, and you hear it
and all of a sudden you get into it. You
stop at a spot there's no wind, there's no sound,
there's nothing, not a freaking thing, and you just look
around and link this is odd, and people are talking,

(01:17:03):
and then you want others to recognize that we're in
an area that is like it's like a void. That's
why I bring a geyga kana with me as soon
as we get to those spots, I want to see
what the radiation levels are, and usually they're a lot higher.
And the only thing I can say is my theory

(01:17:23):
is if you come across those they are the portals
that these bigfoot come out of, and they move out
of them, and they slowly, they take a slower time
to dissipate because they don't have enough energy to actually
do it on the dissipation, and you can get stuck
in some of those not like stuck stuck, but you're

(01:17:46):
kind of on the tail end of something like a
door closing. And that's why I close it, it stops everything.
It's it's interesting, very interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Let's get to some audience question here. Sure start off
with paramarv here. Has there ever been any video of
someone climbing the stairs and disappearing and or returning.

Speaker 5 (01:18:09):
Not that I know of. I have known, I've seen
something of someone climbing the stairs, but I've never seen
anybody disappearing. And if you do, my money is on
the old stop action, get off the staircase.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Where did he go? You know that type of thing.

Speaker 5 (01:18:28):
And the staircases are very weird too. It's not just
the standard staircase. Some of them are very intricate. It's
like this should not be here.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Have you ever been to one of those where you
went there one time, it was there, You go back
to the spot again and it's gone.

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
No, not the staircase, No, it's still there. I don't
tell too many people. I know people are hiking the
area and they also investigate. I say, stay away from
the staircase. There's when you you can walk around the
perimeter of it. There is a vibe that's coming. I
don't know if it's psychosomatic, but there's a vibe coming

(01:19:08):
off of that thing. That is oozing. Don't do it.
I can't explain it other than.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
That I don't want to take that chance. I'm not
doing that yet. I'm not good with that.

Speaker 5 (01:19:28):
Let's let's send nicol in. Nicole sad. Yeah, we're not
gonna send you in.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Let's go to t Bone. Sure, never asked you, Brian,
what's your opinion of the Beast of devoted?

Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
Oh, the original French monster. I'm thinking it may have
been a very very very large wolf, you know, an oddity,
not necessarily a were wolf, but that what they do
is they have like this wolf that's killing things and

(01:20:02):
attacking maybe rabid and and then people then take it
and make it, you know, bigger than it's supposed to be,
for whatever their reasons, to keep people, you know, home
at night or whatever. Kind of like, don't go in
those those woods. The boogeyman will get you. What you

(01:20:27):
really should be interested in is Saint Christopher, who was
depicted as a werewolf, I mean, a wolf whatever, dog man.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
That's interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:20:40):
I've never heard of that one. Yeah, look up Saint Christopher.
You'll get him as a as a a he has
a wolf's head.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
Really yeah, interesting? All right, next question This one comes
from necessary dialogue. Sure does anyone have clear pictures of sasquatch,
big foot, et cetera.

Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
I still one percent believe the Patterson Gibbon film is
the best evidence you'll ever see. There are, immit, clear
images of these creatures, but at different angles. They are
very much aware of what cameras are, and I believe
that they cloak when they're by cameras, or they draw

(01:21:24):
enough energy off the camera to blur the lens because
everything's electronic, so if you over if you start drawing
energy from it, you can take away from the are
you know, the sensors that are there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
But when they are not aware that.

Speaker 5 (01:21:40):
They're being paid attention to, they do show up, and
there are some clear pictures.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
I haven't seen any that have caught my attention, much
like the Patterson Gimlin film does. And I can't stand
it when the researchers zoom right in on their camera
so everything becomes pixelated, and then they're like, well, this
is the eyes and this is the nose, and if

(01:22:12):
you zoom out on it you could see that it's
complete paradolia. I don't like that mean I can give you.
I think they're on.

Speaker 5 (01:22:25):
The Old the Bronxial Paranormal Society's website, but I'll post
it on my Facebook page if you want. Where we
had the investigation where I changed from flesh and blood
into interdimensional or something that can do it. We went
back there six months later. We have a den photo
and you can clearly see it's it's a dog man.

(01:22:48):
It's it's clear as day, but it's at a distance
because it was taking it was pulled from a video.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
We couldn't get out there.

Speaker 5 (01:22:57):
It was a swamp and it's the most test thing
you've ever seen. And then there are pups, you know, offspring,
and there are showing their teeth and growling. We didn't
hear the growling though, they're definitely showing, you know when
a dog raises its upper lip, that's what they're doing.
And there's one, two, then a big big mama or

(01:23:20):
something in there.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Yeah, all right, let's uh, I think we've got time
for one more here. Sure, we got about a minute here.
Jennifer is asking, does doc man a bigfoot ever fight?

Speaker 5 (01:23:34):
If so, why, Yes, they fight all the time. So
I said, if you have bigfoot, you have dog man,
but you usually have something in between as a buffer,
and it's basically you stay on your side of the
fence and we'll stay here and the docment are pains
in the rear, and they go and they they breach

(01:23:58):
quite often they will. They're all opportunistic. In the past,
they used to take indigenous people, cannibalism whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
They will eat.

Speaker 5 (01:24:10):
Anything, so they you know, sometimes it comes to a
clash and it's not very pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
A lot of people say, oh.

Speaker 5 (01:24:21):
My money would be on the dog man, but bigfoots
are pretty good at.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
What they do. We have Brian Boden for the next
half hour on spaced Out Radio. We're talking monsters here
till the top of the hour. It's been a great
show so far. If you've missed it, you're gonna have
to check out our archives, which are always free on
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(01:24:58):
listening to space Out. What's your host?

Speaker 4 (01:25:02):
Dave Scott?

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
All right, brother, we're clear.

Speaker 5 (01:25:22):
No problem. Thank you Mark for those links. I appreciate it. Yeah,
I didn't. I didn't something I did recently someone asked
me about and I can't mention who told me to
do what I do do the thing I do, And

(01:25:44):
they asked me to look into ConA Blue.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
You know about ConA Blue. Well, that program is not
shut down.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
At all.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
No, they just changed the names. No, I was, I was.
I was in.

Speaker 5 (01:26:06):
I was in a facility where they primarily was it's running,
it's underground, and it was really weird.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
I tried to.

Speaker 5 (01:26:15):
I got caught by I guess it looked like a
three star general or if something darker suit blue. He
saw me and he made a mention like, you know,
eyes on, eyes on or whatever. He caught me in there.
But I've never seen stars like this before. So picture like,

(01:26:37):
you know, like a general star, but the center was
round and then there was a dot in it. It
looked like a globe and it kind of looked a
little bit like space Force. So I've never seen and
I've been looking that up and I've never seen this before.
But the things I've seen in that facility were interesting.

(01:27:00):
Big room, huge screen monitoring every square into this planet,
and blips were coming on, and then there were people
throughout the whole facility. The cool part is if you
go to other areas, there are non humans working with them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
It was very bizarre. That was my homework from somebody
well that's nice. Yeah, you know, I have literally been
scratching my foot for about half an hour. I got

(01:27:43):
this one spot on my foot where the itch will
not leave. Really I hate when that happens. Yes, I
might have to get a knife and start carving this
itch out. I do that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:58):
Actually, there there's a many nights templar sword.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Oh, very nice. Yeah, that's what we do. Mm hmmm,
tis excellent. His excellent.

Speaker 5 (01:28:21):
What type of non humans extraterrestrials in a variety of
different ones, tall grays, little grays. There's one that it
was really weird there there there was a lot of
angles on the face. Never seen that before. And there
was another one that looked like, oh, I don't want

(01:28:43):
to it was in Star Wars when they're going into
the Death Star, any kind of Asian esque. It looked
like a fish head. It was really weird.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
It was just if if if I was.

Speaker 5 (01:28:56):
Doing drugs at the time, it would be you know, decades, Yeah,
it would be like, okay, that could explain it. But no,
this was very much they were working with humans bizarre,
reported back to him. I have I have sketches of
my sessions really weird, and I can't I can't ask

(01:29:25):
them why they asked me to do that because I
don't have security clearance.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
So, by the way, we should give a shout out
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(01:29:55):
it up sometimes people. Yep, all right, we're coming back
in fifteen seconds. We got three super chatters tonight. We
got t Bone, we got Kmart and we Brian. Thank
you very much for your love and support everybody, and
here we go. We've crossed the halfway point of spaced

(01:30:37):
out radio tonight. My name is Dave Scott, Monster Talk
with Brian Boden going on right now. The man from
Third Eye Live podcast at about sixty two hundred others.
The guy is always busy, He's always podcasting somewhere. Hey, Brian,
let's get back to the Monster Talk. We got a
question coming in from jewels here. How far back can

(01:30:59):
the Rakes be traced in the WU history? I know
dog Man goes back at least to the twelve hundreds.

Speaker 5 (01:31:07):
That is a great question, because from what I gather,
I think rats are more of like that creepypasta stuff
that have come to fruition or life. I don't think
they go I mean, if you go down south, they
talk about creepy crawlers quite often.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
But we're only maybe max.

Speaker 5 (01:31:31):
Three hundred years in this country total, right, and people
have talked about them, so, but I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
They go as far back as that.

Speaker 5 (01:31:42):
I think they're I personally feel they're interdimensional, and we
use the term interdimensional, but there's no other way to
describe not of this earth and maybe not of this
timeline or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
And I think there's a whole.

Speaker 5 (01:32:00):
Of different type of creatures that exist in that realm,
and these are only the latest to find the cracks
in in, you know, the between the timelines and be
able to come through or figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:32:18):
You know, some people may attribute it to a ghoule,
but it's gools. Aren't fools more specter based than physical.
These things are physical, and they're the coolest thing. Well,
sometimes they feel that they appear pale white, and sometimes

(01:32:40):
they have this ability to absorble the light and they
become like a darker gray, not really a true black,
and you kind of can't make out the features. I
have a buddy of mine that owns an outdoor store
here Florida, and he goes check this out.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
I got this from.

Speaker 5 (01:32:59):
My my camera game camera on my property. If there's
an event, it sends them photos and I go look
at it and I'm like, holy crap. He had about
seven rakes in the photo. Seven seven rakes, seven rakes.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
Nothing creepy about that?

Speaker 5 (01:33:20):
Well not, well, yes, and I don't like them, so yeah,
it's creepy. But he has a lot of hogs, wild
hogs on the property, right, so they're you know, that
would be like them going shopping, you know. So I
tried to explain to him, since he has a fun
store with a lot of pointy sticks, a lot of
full auto pointy sticks, you better carry a heavy duty around.

(01:33:45):
So they carry him fifty they carry everything on there.
But after the Mini fourteen story.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
You did mention something though that I don't think a
lot of people in the monster world really think of
there are these creatures out there that previously did not
exist before what we call creepy pasta stories started coming out.

(01:34:15):
It's not only creepy pasta stories.

Speaker 5 (01:34:17):
It's before we started messing around with things that we
really don't know what they're doing. Henceforth colliders, the big
collider you know around the world, every university and I've
done this, the correlation to it. Most of the black

(01:34:37):
eyed children sightings, okay, or winged like mothman type creatures there.
It's associated near areas that have currently mini colliders particle accelerators.
Firm Lab in Chicago has them. You know that whole
Illinois area that was the first big color lighter system.

(01:35:01):
What's going on in Chicago? You have the flying humanoids
right hanging out by the FedEx hanger over in the
airport people. I think someone just reported another one. Actually,
they reported a flying humanoid down in Zephealis, Florida Zephylis,
which I will be investigating because I have to drive

(01:35:23):
my daughter that way to go to college, so honey,
just keep looking out the way though, you know, I
wouldn't put her in danger though. But there's when there's
a military presence, when there's massive amounts of energy being expended,
when they're you know, the collider hitting and crashing when

(01:35:45):
they first turned it on as fast as they turned
it on and they turned it off just as fast.
Something scared the hell out of them. They have reports
from cern people at Acern that are telling you they've
opened portals and these beings are coming out. So I
think some of this, Yeah, Creepypasta is involved in it.

(01:36:06):
And you know, the term abrika dabra is what I
speak I create. This is why you have to be
very careful about what you put out there. This is
why the natives don't want you to say the word
that a ranch is named after, because your your mirror,
putting it out there is very well could be creating

(01:36:28):
it or giving it the energy it needs to create.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
So when we look at creatures like Bloody Mary, siren Head, yeah,
slender Man, creatures like that, they they come from a
term called the tulpa. Yep, it is a tulpa. And

(01:36:54):
I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:36:57):
You remember Rosemary Ellen Guiley, Yes, okay, she did one
of the better researchers in my opinion, in this entire field,
and she was doing stuff with the gin. The Gin
don't like us, They don't want you mentioned their names.
So but one of the things.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
She's always put forward is through her research.

Speaker 5 (01:37:22):
And she dealt with John Zappie and she's dealt with
demonic stuff. What you you think of the minute it
becomes up in a thought, you're throwing that, you're giving
energy to something, and technically you can create. You know,
we don't use our full potential as human beings. What

(01:37:44):
if we can create with our thoughts in our minds.
What if we can manipulate plasma and energy and fields.
Have you ever done that with your hands? Yes, and
you just rub and you can feel there's It feels
like there's something there. We're built to do things that

(01:38:05):
would be called science fiction. Some of us are doing it.
Some of us can remote view. There are people that
can heal. I didn't believe. I have to be things
have to be proven. But I've had people who said
they did reiki on me, and I'm telling you, they said,
I'm going to do raki on you. And I said that, yeah, okay,

(01:38:28):
And I ham up the phone and I start feeling
heat and energy in an area where my back and
I call them up. I'm like, are you actually doing
this right now? And they will tell me yeah, I am,
So what's you know? There's something about it? So you've
got to be very careful what you think and what

(01:38:49):
you wish. The more negative you are, the more negative
will come to you. The more positive you are, the
more positive.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
Will come to you. This is with everything you ever.

Speaker 5 (01:39:03):
You ever come across somebody who is just it's like
they stepped in, you know, dog poop. They always are
winning a lottery, or they buy a scratch off, or
everything always goes their way. Okay, there's a certain feeling
that's associated with that way. If you kept winning and
you hit this game, and you hit the lottery and

(01:39:24):
you feel like a millionaire or whatever, you're going to
get a certain energy field around you, that positiveness. And
the more you get this, the bigger it is, the
more powerful it is. If you can try to project
what the feeling would be like for you if you
won the lottery, how life would be so much better,

(01:39:46):
you can breathe, I don't have to go to that job.
I can you know, really focus on doing what I
want to do. If you can think it now they're
in theory and in practice, you can make that come
to fruition.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
You know, it's funny. It's funny you bring up the lottery. Yeah,
last was it earlier this week or last week? I
was driving back from town and the lottery up here
was like seventy five million dollars, which the large lottery
for Canada. We don't get into the billions like you
guys do with the power ball. You know, that's that's

(01:40:23):
just crazy. But the weird part about it was, Dude,
I had on this drive home about a ten minute
premonition of that lottery is mine. It's completely mine, and
this is who I'm going to take care of. This

(01:40:44):
is you know, I'm going to take care of my
daughter's going to take care of my dad, my sisters,
some other loved ones. Okay, and you know then I
got to get out of town, but first got to
get new cell phones. Like all of a sudden, I
was I had this thing that was rote through my head,
right where are we going with the family because I

(01:41:04):
got to meet the family. Well, guess what we can
afford a private jet now. So let's just like it
felt so surreal. So I'm like, okay, better stop at
the gas station, pick up that lottery ticket. This must
be a sign, not a single number none.

Speaker 5 (01:41:24):
So again I'm gonna I'm gonna I hear what you're saying.
You could be keying in on something at a future event.
Here's where it gets really like sucko. You could be
king in on something that's taking place in a different timeline,
in a different Dave Scott right, and you're getting that energy.

Speaker 2 (01:41:48):
Could be.

Speaker 5 (01:41:50):
I mean, I had this conversation today that with a
buddy of mine who would be great.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
For the show.

Speaker 5 (01:41:57):
But I said, I've always felt like I was destined
for more and I kind of wealthy. I didn't have
to worry about money, and here I am worried about money.

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
Not that wealthy, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:42:16):
So I don't know if you're picking up on a
past life or a parallel life or a future that
has yet to be. But me personally, I would buy
the lottery ticket and you don't need I don't know
what are they charge for a ticket in Canada?

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
Two yeah, okay.

Speaker 5 (01:42:38):
I mean some of these lotteries here now are five dollars,
you know, big deal. But it's just everybody. That's a
lot of people that have won it have stated that
they projected that win out into the universe. They knew
they were going to win, and they kept saying they

(01:43:00):
were going to win, and they keep doing that positive.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
I don't know manifestation as they call it. Did I
ever tell you my other lottery story? No? Oh man.
So before I started this show in twenty thirteen, we
were at a friend's house where I had my big
Foot encounters am I UFO and Landing encounter, and we
were playing on a spirit board. And this one night,

(01:43:29):
the spirit board spells out has a message for me, right,
and it says in nine it spells out, in nine
weeks you will win the lottery. Right. I'm like, okay,
because I don't really don't really play the lottery tickets, right,

(01:43:53):
So in nine weeks, you're going to win the lottery?
I said, how much? Forty three million? Forty three million, huh?
Which was which was an odd number? Because our lotteries
here go up by two, five and ten. So to
get an odd number like the like the forty three million,

(01:44:15):
it's a little bit hard to get there on two
fives and tens. So lo and behold, nine weeks later,
the lottery is forty three million dollars. Okay, I go
buy my ticket, I go to work, forget about the ticket,

(01:44:38):
Go meet our friend's house, our friends at their house,
get back on the spirit board that night, totally forgotten
that I got the ticket, and within a minute of
that board warming up, message for Dave spells out congratulations,
and then all of a sudden it clued in. Oh oh,

(01:45:00):
I gotta I got the lottery ticket. I gotta check
my numbers. I checked my numbers and not a single
number on there. Man, I was like, I literally was
swearing at this spirit board. Do you think I'm a joke?
Do you think it's fun to play games like that?

(01:45:20):
I said, I did exactly what you said. The lottery
number was the same, Like, what is wrong with you?
It kept on spelling out, Sorry, that's it, that's it.
Oh man, I've never been so upset in my life.

Speaker 5 (01:45:38):
You should eventually. I mean, like, remember the numbers and
you know, play them. If you see forty three million,
go play it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
And I've only ever seen the lottery one more time
at forty three million, and I literally threw my middle
finger up at the at the lottery board and say, hey,
get me twice. That could have been your ticket though,
could have been. I was too. I'm still a little
I'm still a little disgruntled over that one. Oh, I'd

(01:46:11):
be pissed off.

Speaker 5 (01:46:14):
I'd figure out a way to climb through the board,
right you right there, just grab them.

Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
Oh man, I have ever been and look, that was
a good eye opener for me. Okay, that the other
side has tricksters who are playing with us a little
bit exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:46:34):
So you know the feeling though you had, Oh this
is great, I'm going to do this.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
I'm going to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:46:40):
Try to carry that feeling with you everywhere. And you
may not hit the lottery, but you may hit enough
of little things here and there to get you the
same distance.

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
Maybe you know, it's.

Speaker 5 (01:46:57):
Don't contone them getting tickets. I'm seeing in chat. Well
you do is get one. I've given up on the
big ones. I just go buy one ticket now, I'm done.
I don't you know I personally at this point, I mean,
if there's another guy that is in the news off

(01:47:18):
and he won the lottery, I'm like, I think twice.
I'm like it's probably written, but you know, you never know.

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
I'll spend my six bucks. I'll take a chance every
down again, not often, that's you know.

Speaker 5 (01:47:36):
I mean, it doesn't hurt to buy one ticket. It's
the same odds buy one ticket. But imagine if you
hit forty three million US.

Speaker 2 (01:47:49):
Well, that would be pretty good for you. That'd be
pretty very nice. I'd still do forty three million Canadian
I can still get by. It mostly is very cheaply. Yeah, no,
I'm just saying that it would.

Speaker 5 (01:48:04):
I don't know what the exchange is, but it would
be more than the Canadian side. Oh yeah, but then
you could you can have places all over you know
that the hard rock Hotel and casino could be the
spaced out radio hotel and casino.

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
Not that much. Yeah, come meet Merle. Yeah we we
would definitely open up a restaurant in Vegas called Merle. Merle.

Speaker 5 (01:48:34):
Yes, that would be great, right, But it's all about positiveness,
and it's so hard when you're getting beaten down by
the way. You know, I'm not like the oh, just
think positive, Like I've been there where it's like, yeah right,
I'm drowning. I'm positively thinking of a light preserver. But
if you start thinking positive, moving positive things are things

(01:48:57):
are going to be better for you. They usually are
just what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
Thank you to pair of Barba the quick fingers. Forty
three million US equates to fifty eight million, four hundred
eighty seven thousand, six hundred and twenty six dollars. That's good.
Or that's a whole bunch of hockey sticks. Yeah, probably,
that's fifty eight billion, four hundred eighty seven thousand, six

(01:49:28):
hundred or four hundred eighty seven million, six hundred twenty
six thousand, six hundred eighty nine Canadian Yeah, that's about equal.
That's about equal. Insane, great math mar five minutes to go, Yes, sir,
favorite cryptid that we never hear about.

Speaker 5 (01:49:49):
Favorite crypto we don't hear about. Well, it's not really encryptied.
But let's go into the mystical side of stuff. I'm
gonna say Unicorn. There have been sightings of Pegasus and

(01:50:12):
in this day and Angel all the AI stuff. We
all know what the hell it is. But there are
people that swear up and down that they're Pegasus. There's
got to be unicorns. There has to be a unicorn.
That would be pretty interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
You know. It's funny, Missus s O R thinks are
out there too.

Speaker 5 (01:50:36):
I just I think anytime you get into those old
sea shanty maps and stuff, you get the sirens, you
get the dragons, you get you know, the Pegasi, and
there's always unicorns. And there's other things too, But that
would be pretty cool to see, you know, that would

(01:50:57):
be platypus man, but of us, it would be interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:51:03):
Well going back, I mean unicorns and pegasus go back
to ancient Greece.

Speaker 5 (01:51:09):
Yeah, you know, I mean, why would you make up
but it had a horn on its head and it
had wings, I mean, yeah, you know, I mean it
could be two guys sitting there, you know, drinking at

(01:51:30):
the coliseum of the forum, like, you know, would it
be cool if that horse had wings, you know or whatever.
But I think these things have existed at one point.
I mean I think they existed. I think there's a
lot of stuff that existed, and I think there's other
species of humans that have gone to a certain point

(01:51:54):
destroyed themselves mud flood and it goes back up. Now
they we're getting the club, you know a little bit further.
They destroyed themselves. So I think some of these beings
do exist or did exist, and I would love to
see something like that. I'd love to see a menator,

(01:52:16):
a minotaur. Yeah, pretty interesting. That would be crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
Like if you're going back to Greek mythology, the mentor
or what are those half deer half human things. Oh,
is that like Starbuck from Half Deer? Here? A human.

Speaker 5 (01:52:38):
I've got the name of those now I have to
look them up. A servitar I think unicorn. A unicorn
is on the Scottish flag. Joe, Yeah, it's a centaur centaur, Yes,
serviatire centaire, one of the two.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
Well, you know they did find skulls of Psyclopsis. They
actually have skulls of cyclopses that I have heard.

Speaker 5 (01:53:07):
Yeah, imagine him being your wingman. Listen, dude, you're acting weird.

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
Man. Oh, so many jokes could be made to that. Yeah,
so many jokes. That has to be tough with a giant,
giant eyeball. Yeah, talk about a face only a mother
could love. Seriously, it's like looking at Grant Baker for

(01:53:38):
a long time.

Speaker 5 (01:53:41):
It's just some interesting things out there though.

Speaker 2 (01:53:44):
You know, Brian, we've got about thirty seconds left with you.
Do me a favor. Tell everybody how they could reach
you and find Third Eye Live. Sure.

Speaker 5 (01:53:53):
Third Eye Live is at Brian Bowden on YouTube. Just
put that in Subscribe to me. I do it on
my show because I don't want to promote fifty thousand channels.
We do it every Wednesday night, eight pm Eastern to
ten pm Eastern, and it's under one of our playlists
and it's Third Eye Live.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
It's fun.

Speaker 5 (01:54:12):
We have some great guests, and this guy right there
is going to be on eventually in a couple of weeks.
I have to remind you just so you were.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
Reminded, Brian Bowden. Everybody, Thank you Brian. Coming up next,
we have Swamp Dweller and we have Rant Baker with
the UFO Report. You're listening to spaced out Radio with
your host, do you, Scott?

Speaker 5 (01:54:50):
Great job tonight, buddy, you got a brother. Thank you
for oneing me out here. Yeah, I'm tired, Go get
some I'm gonna try right now. All right, body go
take brother, take care. We'll be right back. Everybody. Goodnight.
Brian Bowden.

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
There's Grantavious minimis right there and we'll put him back
in the in the room and I'll be right back.

Speaker 6 (01:55:22):
H h.

Speaker 2 (01:59:32):
H all right, spring in Grant there he is. Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
I was just writing you a message to you, so
I'm sitting up for this one. Hi. Everybody. Uh that
last text message you just sent me? Oh dude, I
probably have well over thirty of them, but I can
think of just.

Speaker 2 (01:59:59):
Wait, We'll just wait on that, so let's go. Dude.

Speaker 1 (02:00:08):
I just got to say though, a sexy minutaur come on.

Speaker 2 (02:00:18):
Great.

Speaker 1 (02:00:26):
Oh no. So for anybody who's watching, I'm using my
company phone here. This is my notes, and I always
send my notes to Dave so I can sit here
and read them and know what I'm talking about. The
ADHD and me wants to squirrel off and talk about
everything under the sun. So if I don't have something

(02:00:48):
to contain me, then the show gets really interesting real quick.
And I and as Dave knows, my stories bloom because
I just can't stop myself.

Speaker 2 (02:00:58):
All right, We're coming back in twenty seconds, um Dweller
will be about two minutes forty six seconds. Thank you
to t bone, Kmart and Brian for the super chats.
Thank you to everybody who has given us the thumbs
up tonight. It helps with our algorithms. Here we go

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Use it wisely, space Travelers, As the Clam says the
password each and every night. Right here on spaced Out Radio,
let's head to the swamp.

Speaker 7 (02:02:26):
Hello, and welcome to spaced Out Radios Swamp.

Speaker 2 (02:02:29):
I'm swamp dweller.

Speaker 7 (02:02:31):
In tonight, I'm going to take you on a mystic
journey of the unn sharing tales of monsters, legends and nightmares.

Speaker 2 (02:02:39):
Welcome to the spaced Out Radio Swamp.

Speaker 7 (02:02:42):
My name is Eli and I'm twenty two years old
now and I always love being outdoors and in the woods.
Remember about nine years ago, when I was around twelve
or thirteen, my family and I moved to Minnesota to
help my grandparents. They were getting up there in age
and could not really run the farm as they used to,
and also just for a change of scenery. A year

(02:03:03):
or so after the move, my two brothers and I
got into the habit of running around the edge of
the woods along the backsides of the property and exploring
where we probably should not with that. After school, one day,
I and my brothers got our stuff and made a
four or five hundred yard walk to the forest behind
the house. My brothers decided to take off and run
ahead about three hundred yards ahead of me, play tackling

(02:03:26):
and just being rambunctious teens while I noticed a bundle
of flowers that my grandmother would have loved. So I
was looking at the flowers, I heard a bit of
rustling in the woods about fifteen or twenty feet to
my right. I didn't think too much of it, because
you know, it's the woods. So I shook my head
and went to grab the bunch of flowers to give
to my grandmother. No sooner as I reached my hand

(02:03:47):
out to grab them, I heard in my brother's voice
someone called my name for help. It sounded just like
my little brother, except it was just off, just a
little bit, like it was being played by recording. I
immediately froze because As I looked up, I noticed my
two brothers were way ahead of me, playing in the snow.
I remember calling for them to hurry up and come

(02:04:08):
with me to the house, and as I turned to
run up to the house, I noticed a lone coyote
moving in between some old, beat up trucks that my
grandfather had parked in the pasture of the edge of
the woods. This coyote was considerably larger than any coyote
I've ever seen up until this point, and what struck
me as odd was that this coyote looked like it
got hit by a car, and I swear when it

(02:04:29):
moved around the trucks, it looked like it had its
paws on the side of the truck, like it was
trying to look over the truck at me. I couldn't
help myself and yell hey to it, and we sat
for about a minute or so just.

Speaker 1 (02:04:42):
Staring at each other.

Speaker 7 (02:04:43):
Before I could turn and start back walking to my house,
I watched this thing lean around the truck and saying
my little brother's voice again, Hey. When this happened, I
yelled from my brothers and booked it to the porch
of the house as my brothers.

Speaker 1 (02:04:56):
Caught up to me.

Speaker 7 (02:04:57):
They noticed how pale I was and asked what was wrong,
So I told them I saw a mountain lion, scared
of being ridiculed for seeing something so ridiculously frightening. Later
that night, I was looking around the Internet and found
some other encounters by people all over the United States
having similar stories, and came across an article about skim walkers,
which was both terrifying and interesting. This is not the

(02:05:19):
only encounter I have had with such entities. I just
wanted to get my story out there as a bit
of a warning that there are things out there that
don't really make sense to humankind.

Speaker 2 (02:05:30):
Thank you swamp dwell for another creepy story. If you
want more just like that, head on over to YouTube,
type in swamp Dweller, hit subscribe. Ring that bell thousands
of stories for you to listen to each and every night,
so make sure you check him on out. It's time
for us to go to the UFO Report. From UFO Max,
here's Grant Baker.

Speaker 8 (02:05:52):
The star line scy story breaking Through comes into view. RALP,

(02:06:29):
we got y'all last becomes a soul.

Speaker 2 (02:06:39):
Grant Baker we call him around here. How you doing buddy, good,
how you doing, my man.

Speaker 1 (02:06:44):
It's good to be back.

Speaker 2 (02:06:45):
It is good. There's a couple of big UFO stories
that are out there right now, one involving a missing person,
the other one involving a source, a source. So let's
start off with the source. Because UK documentarian Mark Christopher Lee,
for the last number of weeks has been very popular

(02:07:07):
in the UFO world because it was alleged that he
had a source close to the Trump family in the
White House that said that Donald Trump was going to
be releasing the UFO files and having a speech made
up about the fact that we weren't alone. It was
set to come out July eighth, the seventy ninth anniversary

(02:07:28):
of Roswell, and apparently that date got moved up to
May first, and apparently his source was so credible that
he was going to hold a press conference and bring
the source out himself to confirm. Well, earlier this week,
our good friend Mark Christopher Lee said felt he'd been

(02:07:50):
played over this. You know that his source was not
returning his text messages, his source was not returning his calls,
and he felt like he had been played and probably
because Laura Trump had started speaking about the speech, and
and all of a sudden Trump released the UFO files
or said, hey, it's time to release them. Let's give

(02:08:12):
them the public what they want. So the question was
who was his source? Well, it's alleged right now that
the source was none other allegedly Robert Bigelow no Way
from Bigelow Aerospace. Bigelow has a very controversial side to

(02:08:39):
his ufology. The Nevada billionaire originally got into UFOs shortly
after buying Skinwalker Ranch in around when did he buy that?
Two thousand and five two thousand and six. He also
took about twenty two million dollars from the A tip
money and started investing in UFO reporting websites. He bought

(02:09:06):
one here in British Columbia. He bought another one I
believe in Italy. He also allegedly funded Moufon for a
tune of seven hundred thousand dollars, helped them start their
Stars team, and in trade he would get the really
good cases. The other thing that Bass his company, Bigelow

(02:09:30):
Advanced Aerospace Space Systems did was they were able to
get their name put in the FAA handbook. So if
a pilot, whether they were flying commercial whether they were
flying privately, whether they were just weekend pilots flying their
cessnas around. If you saw UFO, you were to call

(02:09:56):
Bass Bigelow Advanced Aerospace Space Systems and fill out your
report the phone number, and the company was actually in
the FAA logbooks. So he went very hard, and then
all of a sudden he sold Skinwalker Ranch to Brandon Fugel.
He really got out of the UFO world. Everybody. If

(02:10:17):
you want to see his interview with Sixty Minutes where
he was asked by a journalist where are the aliens?
And he goes, well, you really don't have to go
up in space to see them. They're right, they're already here,
and he kind of gave a little snicker and a laugh.
But apparently, and it's not been fully confirmed, but it

(02:10:39):
is believed that Bigelow was Mark Christopher Lee's source for
the Trump speech. Now, Mark Christopher Lee does believe the
speech has been written. He also is holding out hope
that May one or July eighth, President Trump will make

(02:11:00):
the announcement. But as for a source, well, that line
of communication seems to have died right down. What's your thoughts?

Speaker 1 (02:11:08):
Grant died right down? And that's the stores. And so
we have a what's the gentleman that went missing? General mccasly, mccaslyn.
So he went missing, walked out without any devices.

Speaker 2 (02:11:24):
Well, before we get to his story, I want to
get your reaction to the Bigelow stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:11:28):
Well, that's what I'm saying, Like these things are kind
of co mingled. And when you have something like this
and then all of a sudden a source goes dark,
you're starting to have a paper trail like a footprint
now where people are going dark on this subject. And
Big Oelo is man. That guy, there's so many ties

(02:11:49):
to him with not only to the stars and the
aerospace and everything he's done. I mean that guy literally
thinks and is quoted before that. No, he believes one
hundred percent that they're here. And the names that link
to this is just big Oo's a big, big name

(02:12:10):
and authority when it comes to this. He's financed a
whole bunch of stuff, and gosh, for him to go dark,
it could be some paying him off, do you think.

Speaker 2 (02:12:21):
No, I don't think it's that at all. Bigelow is
a very quirky person from what we are able to do.
But here's where I don't believe that it's Bigelow, and
that's why I said it allegedly is Bigelow. But this
is why I don't believe it was Bigelow, and that

(02:12:42):
is because in the nineties and two thousands, it was
Senator Harry Reid who Bigelow was very much involved in
campaign donations. Okay, and read is the one who secured

(02:13:02):
the money, but who is also close to both Bigelow
and Reid and helped build that friendship, Well, that was
George Knapp. So the fact that George Knapp may not
have this story and run with it, I find that

(02:13:23):
very difficult to see. If there was some truth with this,
I believe that George Knapp would have broken the story
or clarified the story. Maybe.

Speaker 1 (02:13:43):
So Knapp has been known to withhold information that he's
even said it himself. He's had information in fact, when
he has whistleblowers come on, He's known about those whistleblowers
for months or even years in advance. So for him
to withhold this information it could be a tactics. Nap
is a very astute gentleman. I know he's on a

(02:14:07):
show of his own with Jeremy Corbel for anybody's watching.
But Nap will hold things close to the chest as well.
You know, there's been stories that you've had in your
own possession that you didn't disclose for reasons that you had,
and I believe that he's If NAP's involved and he's
hiding it for whatever reason, there's it's got to be

(02:14:29):
a good reason for him to not disclose it as
of yet. But you're correct, Napp is also the guy
on the bleeding edge of it, where if he finds something,
he's going to disclose it to everybody.

Speaker 2 (02:14:40):
I would agree with you, but you're right. As a journalist,
he has held off on stories because there is a
little bit of a game being played by the political
people who are wanting to control the narrative of this story.
And George has done that before. Okay, reporting for kls

(02:15:00):
KLAS TV in Las Vegas. So I just on a
story this big. I think I'm going to rephrase that.
I have a very tough time believing that a billionaire

(02:15:23):
who is in this field, unless he had a relationship
somehow with Mark Christopher Lee, would give that information to
a United Kingdom UFO documentarian rather than keeping it homegrown

(02:15:44):
for somebody like Nap to break. But then again, we
have also, you know, to muddy the waters a little
bit further. Okay, we also know that many in the
UFO field have gone across the pond to England and

(02:16:10):
the United Kingdom and built their own little database of journalists, YouTubers,
podcasters to help get the information out. And a lot
of this story is being broken by people outside of
the United States. Look at Ross Coltheart. He does all

(02:16:32):
his work from Australia. Okay. Christopher Sharp from Liberation Times
dot com, he does all his work from the United Kingdom.
So I think there is a little bit to that
where I look at it and I think, okay, well
maybe Mark Christopher Lee is somebody who would maybe get
a hold of that if he had a relationship with Bigelow.

Speaker 1 (02:16:56):
I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (02:17:00):
All right, Let's get over to our next big story,
which is an update on Major General Neil McCaslin, who's missing.
I don't know if you saw this report or not,
but the Bernalillo County Sheriff's Office released a new statement
on that. Do you have that one or do you
want me to run with it?

Speaker 1 (02:17:22):
I only have a snippet of it, but I didn't
have enough of it as quick as possible to tell
about it.

Speaker 2 (02:17:28):
I'll read this. It's going to take a few minutes.
I'll read this, and then we'll get your reaction to it. Okay, absolutely,
So this came out this afternoon that the Bernalillo County
Sheriff's Office continues the missing person investigation into the disappearance
of sixty eight year old William Neil McCaslin, last known

(02:17:50):
to have been at or near his residence of the
area of Quail Run Court, New Northeast on the morning
of Friday, February twenty seventh. A Silver alert remains in
effect and mister McCaslin remains missing. As previously stated, mister
mccaslyn is a retired US Air Force General. BSCO is

(02:18:14):
the lead investigative agency and continues to coordinate with partner
agencies in support of the investigative follow up in search operations,
including the FBI Albuquerque Field Office when tools, tactics or
techniques can assist. Search resources are coordinated through the New
Mexico Department of Public Safety and New Mexico State Police

(02:18:38):
Search and Rescue System, with volunteer search teams assisting as requested.
Now Tomorrow marks two weeks since his disappearance. BSCO is
releasing the following verified timeline to provide clarity on what
is known. On February twenty seventh, at approximately ten in
the morning, a repair man was at the residence and

(02:18:59):
in interacted with mister mccaslyn. At approximately eleven ten am,
Missus mccaslyn left the home for a medical appointment. At
approximately twelve oh four pm, she returned home and mister
mccaslyn was not there. His phone, prescription, glasses, and wearable
devices were located at the residence. Missus mccaslyn Wilkerson began

(02:19:23):
attempting to locate mister mccaslyn and contacted family and friends.
At approximately three h seven pm, she reported him missing
and the investigation began immediately. As the investigation has progressed,
b SEO has identified items believed to be unaccounted for
from the residents. Investigators believe mister mccaslyn may have been

(02:19:46):
wearing the shirt shown in the attached photo, which we
obviously don't have a copy of the photo, but here's
a description. The photo depicts mister mccaslyn wearing a light
green long sleeve button up outdoor shirt. Additional items believed
to be missing, including his hiking boots, wallet, and a
thirty eight caliber revolver with a leather holster. Investigators also

(02:20:10):
located a gray US Air Force sweatshirt approximately one point
two File one two point twenty five miles east of
the residence on Saturday, March seventh. The item was collected
and processed. No blood was detected during the initial processing,
and initial analysis is pending. The sweatshirt has not been

(02:20:32):
confirmed by family or friends to be associated with mister McCaslin. However,
it prompted an additional targeted search effort in the area.
BSEEO continues to pursue all credible leads and follow ups
on every tip received. While there is currently no evidence
indicating foul play, investigators are examining all available information as

(02:20:57):
the case remains active. Investigators have explained and expanded a
neighborhood canvas to more than seven hundred homes, requesting security
videos and information. Additional search efforts have included drone operations,
helicopter support, ground searches with search and rescue teams, and
canine searches. To date, BSO has not received any confirmed

(02:21:21):
citing or confirmed video showing mister McCaslin leaving the area
or indicating a direction of travel. Search efforts our investigative
follow ups are ongoing. The Silver alert was issued based
on the information available early in the investigation that indicated
mister McCaslin could be at some level of risk and

(02:21:43):
that additional public assistance was needed to locate him. Due
to privacy laws, BSCO will not release medical details or
speculate about his state of mind. BSCO is again asking
anyone in the area to check and submit security camera
footage from Free February twenty seventh and Saturday February twenty eighth,
particularly between nine am and two pm in and around

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Quail Run Court northeast and Roots leading away from the neighborhood.
If you were in the foothills or on the trails
those days, please review any go pro or phone footage
and submit it. Anything may help, so so go ahead.

Speaker 1 (02:22:24):
It's also noted that his wife, when they said that
they wouldn't give any mental health issues or anything like
that on him, she did state though, that he does
not currently have dementia or disorientation, and that was something
the Sheriff's office continues to site as unspecified medical issue
as a primary reason for the urgency of the search,
and the fact that he brought his gun, his wallet

(02:22:46):
and they found that. Those are just some of the
things that she noted that was missing. So and there's
an FBI they want everybody to contact the FAI in
Albuquerque Field office for this as well. Those are the
snippets that I had on it, and that's the reason
why I was and for anybody that's listening to this,
I was air quoting exactly what was missing, because that's
all I had. You know, it's currently.

Speaker 2 (02:23:08):
Well, here's the other thing that we need to figure out. Okay,
by the sounds of it, if they check neighborhood cameras
and they did not see him leave the area on foot,
that's a good indication that somebody took him.

Speaker 1 (02:23:27):
I just I was just saying a van fold up gone.
But I mean even the ring cameras would see that.

Speaker 2 (02:23:34):
Well, and that's what really what they have to look for,
you know. I mean we have to remember, even in
today's society, there's probably a lot of areas that don't
have those ring cameras, especially if they're in a suggestively
safe area, or a or a private subdivision or something
along those flot lines, a gated community, whatever it may be.

Speaker 1 (02:23:58):
Well, based on my primary source of clients that I
deal with every day when it comes to gated communities.
I now I'm not an Albuquerque but in the in
the region that I am, which you know, I mean
in southern Oregon.

Speaker 2 (02:24:13):
Hold that thought. Hold that thought. We got to go
to break. We're going to continue with the mccaslyn story.
When we returned for the final half hour of Spaced
Out Radio UFO, Max's grand Baker coming out on the
UFO Report and this is spaced Out Radio and your
hosts name stuff. Ah.

Speaker 1 (02:24:50):
So the one that gets me and I and I
don't know if I should mention it, it was the
ring cameras. So they did a canvas over seven hundred.

Speaker 2 (02:24:58):
Hold that because our audience is going to want to
hear that. Dude.

Speaker 1 (02:25:02):
Yeah, these are just my three quick points besides the
missing object, so I have that you already mentioned all
of them. The only one that gets me and I
want to focus on the canine when we get back,
and the horseback. Did you know about the horseback?

Speaker 2 (02:25:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:25:18):
Okay, yeah, we'll focus on that. Here in a second,
because I had something to say about that. And by
the way, your beard looks freaking.

Speaker 2 (02:25:24):
Amazing, dude, I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (02:25:30):
I can't wait to Oh, okay, this.

Speaker 2 (02:25:44):
Show's flying on by tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:25:47):
Oh yeah, you were having fun earlier.

Speaker 2 (02:25:54):
What tucks is? I got to go to bed a
week after the boarding.

Speaker 1 (02:25:59):
Tomorrow's give You're not fun for you, my man, I've
been been through that many times. Yeah, do not envy.

Speaker 2 (02:26:05):
You, yep. Oh they're the worst.

Speaker 1 (02:26:12):
Uh, hundreds of them, hundreds of them.

Speaker 2 (02:26:15):
Oh yeah, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (02:26:20):
You only made us forty eight thousand dollars last month?
What is wrong with you? Mm hm oh guys, okay.

Speaker 2 (02:26:30):
Sorry, it happens. It happens.

Speaker 1 (02:26:35):
So I couldn't make you forty nine thousand. Gee, how
many crickets? Oh that is the best. I got to
find out where she got this. So I'm drinking a
it's a mushroom sodo pop and it tastes just like.

Speaker 2 (02:26:57):
Root beer and it's made from mushrooms.

Speaker 1 (02:27:02):
Yes, and it's not kombucha. It's got this in the bottle.
You find it where the kombucha is. And the bottle
has a brown label. And they make cola, root beer
and some other stuff, and it's all mushroom and it
has licorice in it, like Lions Maine and all these
different types of mushrooms. It is not. It's lightly carbonated,

(02:27:23):
but I think it's more natural carbonated, so it's very
light and it tastes exactly like root beer, but it's
like super good for you mushrooms. It's supposed to help
you heal. That's why I'm drinking it. And she's like,
try this mushroom drink. I'm like, no thanks, and she's like,
you should try it. That's what I'm drinking right now.
And holy mackerel, if it wasn't five dollars a bottle,
I drink it every day.

Speaker 2 (02:27:46):
How much a bottle of PEPSI down there right now?

Speaker 1 (02:27:49):
So your best bet if you buy a twelve ounce
like can of soda is probably two bucks. If you
buy the next size up in the plastic bottle, it's
like two forty nine. If you buy a one leader,
it's two ninety nine to three three twenty something. But
if you buy a two lider, this makes no sense.

(02:28:10):
It's two ninety nine. So you can literally buy a
two leader for less than the cost of a one
leader bought.

Speaker 2 (02:28:16):
You know, from the can you go to the first
plastic bottle? Those have jumped up here to almost four
dollars a bottle. Yep, it's ridiculous, dude.

Speaker 1 (02:28:30):
So our gas prices in organ jumped exponentially of course
after epic theory started. So I went out and I.

Speaker 2 (02:28:38):
Told my wife.

Speaker 1 (02:28:38):
I said, hey, because I can't drive legally, I can't
drive right now because I got a cast, so they
won't ensure me. And so she's been doing all the
driving and I and I my Yukon. So I got
a Yukon Excel twenty five hundred outside and it has
a forty two gallon gas tank, and I said, hey,
can you go fill that out real quick? So she
fills that up. She's got a Cadillac filled up. I

(02:28:59):
got my big truck filled up and I got ninety
two gallons of diesel in that truck. And then I
also have my obs Chevy filled up, my Jeep filled up,
the Bronco filled up, as well as my company van
and my Caprice which is twenty six gallon. I'm sitting
on over two hundred gallons of fuel plus gas cans,
and I bought it all for under three bucks a

(02:29:21):
gallon except for the diesel, and then now everything's just
way up. Gas prices are up four bucks over four
dollars a gallon. It's just.

Speaker 2 (02:29:31):
It's really exa.

Speaker 1 (02:29:33):
I can't complain knowing what you pay for fuel. So
I'll just shut my mouth now.

Speaker 2 (02:29:38):
And we make it. We make it here, I know.

Speaker 1 (02:29:42):
Oh my gosh, so I did. I did watch this
post on this gentleman that is in He's one of
the big oil companies, and this was kind of an
old post, but it is something that I've been talking
about for many years, where.

Speaker 2 (02:29:55):
I yes, speed it up. We only got twenty seconds.

Speaker 1 (02:29:58):
He said, the Earth makes the oil, it's not from
the dicers.

Speaker 2 (02:30:01):
I agree, I agree, we got ten seconds. Thank you Debor, Roony,
Brian Kmart and t Bone for the super chats. Greatly
appreciate your love. Here we go, everybody, final half hours

(02:30:36):
spaced out radio tonight. My name is Dave Scott. We're
going to bring in Grant Baker from UFO Max of
the UFO Report. Thank you Grant for being here. We're
talking about a major general, Neil mccaslyn, who's been missing
now for almost two weeks and there's no sign or
trace for him. The police are asking in the town

(02:30:58):
in New Mexico where he lived to please submit any
ring cameras, any go pro footage, anything that could be
suitable to trying to find him. Yet none of the neighbors,
as far as we know, saw any vehicles pull up.
We their ring cams or their security cameras haven't caught anything.

(02:31:18):
But nobody has seen him walking down the street. Nobody
has seen him going for a jog, nobody has seen
him leave. Weird man, Oh, it's super weird.

Speaker 1 (02:31:31):
So they canvassed over seven hundred homeowners for ring camera
and security footage and nothing. And on top of that,
when they're using horseback, you know, teams and canine units.
I don't know if anybody's ever watched those shows MythBusters
where they tried to hide and they had a canine

(02:31:53):
unit out there and they still got found even a
mile away, Like a canine unit couldn't even find this guy,
or even something's going on here? Was he picked up?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:32:08):
I don't know. It's it's very odd to me, very odd,
just like it is to everybody else. And I don't
know if this has anything to do with with UFOs.
And for people who were wondering who General mccaslyn's all about,
well in the wiki leak's links. Before this whole disclosure

(02:32:28):
movement started in twenty seventeen, there was a WikiLeaks link
of emails that involved General mccaslyn, Tom DeLong from Blank
one eighty two, who started the to the Stars Academy,
and John Podesta, who was Hillary Clinton's campaign manager for

(02:32:49):
her presidential run and prior to that he worked for
President Obama. And when John Podesta left Obama's office to
help Hillary, he said his biggest regret in leaving his
position was not securing the hashtag UFO files hashtag the
truth is still out there, So it all kind of

(02:33:15):
ties together. Mccaslyn was in the know of everything that
was going on. This guy was an aeronautical engineer. The
guy was brilliant. Okay, and he's been retired, yes, but
guess what doesn't retire the knowledge in your brain. I
don't think it was some UFO person who took it.

(02:33:37):
I don't know, But with what's going on in the
world right now, the amount of technology he knew about,
could it be that possibility, that seems more likely your thoughts, Grant.

Speaker 1 (02:33:50):
Oh, it's very likely. This is one of those subjects
going on for over eighty years now, and anybody is
in the know needs to be hush hushed. He knows
he's in the know, whether he's retired or not. Just
like you said, it's still in his head and he
has the information that whoever the powers it be that
want to keep the top secret or not in the

(02:34:10):
public guy are going to do whatever it takes. As
we've seen before, not going to go into detail there,
but you're either going to if you're in the know
and you see what's going on in today's world, or
you have you know, disclosure imminent, it's time to disappear,
or did someone make him disappear? Is did he leave

(02:34:32):
on his own accord? We have no idea what's going on,
but when it comes to UFOs, Aliens and the big
d capital disclosure that that is such a huge is
the direction that most people would go. And when it
comes to this, because even if he's retired, this is

(02:34:54):
a point where knowledge is your enemy. If you have
the knowledge or an enemy to the people that want
to keep this quiet, and a lot of us, including me, you,
and anybody else that's maybe watching or listening to this
who want capital D disclosure. This is something that is
pertinent to the next step forward. Correct, So in this

(02:35:19):
particular sense, is he doing this on his own accord
and saying, Okay, I'm scared, I want to get out
of here, ghost myself. I'm going to take off and
found a novel way to disappear where nothing can find him.
Or are we just watching the media doing what they
do best, which is parroting what people tell them to say,
which we all know that primetime media will do that,

(02:35:43):
and something happened to him and they're being told a
different narrative like this is one of those things like
we're all on the edge of our seats on because
we have a gentleman that has the information that won't
tell it, and maybe he will and that might be
why they're looking for him. Or maybe he took off

(02:36:04):
because he doesn't want to be in harm's way, so
to speak, like this is a very edge of your
seak situation.

Speaker 2 (02:36:13):
Well, I agree with you, and it's a story that
we're going to have to continue to follow. But the
one thing I don't like about the UFO field is.
Immediately people are saying he got taken because of his
knowledge of UFOs. Somebody grabbed him about the UFOs. Even
his wife joked in her statement that maybe he got

(02:36:34):
abducted by aliens, right in the statement that she put out.
And I just look at this as something along the
lines of I'm sure it's probably going to end up
that there's some sort of foul play, something will pop up,
But I don't believe for a second that this situation

(02:36:58):
has anything to do with UFOs, even though he was
read into the subject correct.

Speaker 1 (02:37:04):
And the funny thing is is the FBI already stated
that there seems to be no foul play, quote unquote,
that it involved so.

Speaker 2 (02:37:12):
Far, very true. We only got a few minutes left
before we're going to get to Grant's top five pet peeves.
What else you got for us, Grant?

Speaker 1 (02:37:24):
Oh my goodness. So I started doing a whole bunch
of digging, as you know, when it comes to quite
a few things. There are a few sightings that have
happened recently. One of them was Aptos. I hope I'm
saying that right, Aptos, California, and they saw a black
triangle profile a driver on highway. One reported a rectangular

(02:37:48):
triangular object with three bright orange yellow lights. So everybody
knows the triangular black you know, objects in the sky.
It was reportedly rose from a field and shadowed the
car for two miles before disappearing. Now, the only reason
why I picked up on this because that happened to me.
You guys can watch that in the previous shows where

(02:38:10):
personally I was followed by an object and there was
many people in the car that seen this with me.
So the details is they just said lights in the sky.
The witness described a physical mass that maintained a specific
distance from the vehicle, suggesting intelligent control rather than a

(02:38:31):
drone or satellite. Now I have a problem with the
drone portion because drones are usually under intelligent control. Satellites
can be under intelligent control too, but they're not that
close to the ground. And while the APTO sightings alone,
there was also one in Salt Lake City and there
was a swarm of lights. This is twenty four hours ago.

(02:38:52):
There were multiple witnesses reported ten glowing orbs in the
western sky that remained visible for approximately ten minutes, and
the pattern was unlike a starlink train, which everybody's seen.
Over most everybody's seen. These orbs quote unquote were described
as circles that hovered in a cluster, So the sightings

(02:39:13):
occurred in your sensitive airspace, adding to the thrown a
palooza narrative that George Knapp has been analyzing this week,
and where swarms of unidentified objects are increasingly being seen
near critical places or infrastructures is what they said. So
we have two major sightings in different places California, Utah,

(02:39:36):
and then of course it goes on to where I've been. Really,
I've been studying what has been talking about, especially when
he was talking about that. We're on that interview with
Chris Ramsey. He's very hush hush when it comes to
the buildings around UFOs, the big ones that they had
to build buildings around. I'm still digging into this, folks.

(02:39:58):
I'm still trying to figure out which ones I think
might be the prime suspects from South Korea or near
Korea all the way to Australia. I found many of them.
I'm sharing them with Dave. I'm trying to build a
profile on it so I can figure out what buildings
would be big enough and zero one on these, and
we'll give you a report shortly on those as well.
So let's talk about your five pet peeves, bud.

Speaker 2 (02:40:21):
Well, I've got a few pet peeves here, and I
figured we'd have a little bit of fun. I did
so in my I wish I had some I should
have made some music for this, right, I should have.
Here's my first one. I have a son who's twelve.
He hasn't learned control yet, and I'm so tired of

(02:40:45):
cleaning up the toilet seat. You know what I'm saying.
There's nothing more. I'm a little bit of a germophobe. Okay,
there's nothing worse than you go into a bathroom. It
doesn't matter whether it's my place, your place, whoever's place,

(02:41:05):
and there's puddles on the toilet seat. That drives me nuts,
man drives me nuts. Can't handle it.

Speaker 1 (02:41:17):
Okay. I have a seven and a half year old
that does the same thing. I understand, and I'm sure
anybody that has kids do and they think it miraculously
disappears every other day, So let's keep doing it.

Speaker 2 (02:41:35):
Oh, it's horrible, absolutely horrible. I do have another one
in this field, though, and this really really steamed me.
The other day it did because I'm always looking grant.
You know, as a show host, you're always looking for
somebody who's putting out information for a potential interview. So

(02:41:57):
this lady, I'm gonna mention her name because I don't
want I don't want people to go to her channel
and support the BS that she's pulling. And I think
she's doing it honestly. I think it's honest BS. She
puts up this video saying that a swarm of UFOs

(02:42:20):
being filmed in the sky, and what it is is
Starlink coming up from the horizon, and you see the
one twinkling light, you see the next twinkling light, the
third twinkling light, the seventh twinkling light, the ninth twinkling light,
the fourteenth twinkling light. And everybody in her chat section

(02:42:45):
is trying to tell her it's starlink, and she's arguing
the point, it is not Starlink. I've seen starlink before.
Their lights don't twinkle. Well, you know what causes lights
to twinkle when you're coming up on the horizon, If

(02:43:07):
there's moisture in the air, if there's smog in the air. Okay,
and other people were defending her, and all I'm thinking is,
this is what kills what we do. It doesn't matter
whether it's uphology, cryptids, paranormal. When you're putting out things

(02:43:31):
that are not true, it hurts what we do. Grant, well,
we're all craving for the public, the mainstream public, to
accept what we do.

Speaker 1 (02:43:45):
And we both know her.

Speaker 2 (02:43:50):
Well, you've seen the videos too.

Speaker 1 (02:43:52):
I saw it. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
It's I've seen things like that where pictures were put
up of somebody taking a picture of a party and
there was these huge circular objects in the sky. And

(02:44:13):
this is a few years ago when this happened the
same person, and I was like, those aren't objects. That's
a person inside of a kitchen looking out of double
pane window and the lights, those bucket canister lights were
on behind the person that took the picture, and you
could see the reflection of lights in the window, but
you can't see anything behind her or whoever took the picture,

(02:44:36):
and that was it was the same incidence. It just
takes a little bit of you know, just what do
you call it? Reasoning and common sense and just deductive
reasoning is all it takes. But there are a lot
of people that get super excited, and I understand that,
and they see these and they're just like, oh, this

(02:44:56):
is great. It's even happened to people like luel Azando,
especially when that one the UFO on the ground where
pilots pilot took a picture of the two crop rings
from Yes, whatever it happens, you know. And but they
defend it. Hold hardly, you know, because it is what
it is. They're they're beheming about it and adamant there

(02:45:18):
they mean, well, I just I think a little bit
more what's the words, uh, studying the context of what's
going on there before you post it. It goes a
long ways.

Speaker 2 (02:45:32):
I would agree. What's your next pet, Peeve?

Speaker 1 (02:45:35):
Oh boy, So since you've brought up the toilet one,
I have another one. I have children as well as
you do. The dad. I want to try to make
eggs today, okay, as I'm laid up on the couch,
thank you for making my eggs. I don't complain about
anything when they do it, because I'm not there to
teach them the correct way to do it. But then

(02:45:57):
everybody goes to school and everything, and then I get
up in my wheelchair and I go over and I
see the pan of crusty egg burnt across the side
of the pan, left on the stove, and I'm like, oh, oh.

Speaker 2 (02:46:12):
My gosh.

Speaker 1 (02:46:13):
And then butter, the butter dish is sitting out. The
knife is still there. It takes five seconds turn on
the hot water, heat up that pan, get it scalding hot,
rinse it in the hot water. That's enough to kill everything.
Just put it away if you're in a hurry. And
that's leaving messes when it would take ten more seconds

(02:46:35):
just to clean it. That is a good one. It's
not my ultimate pet peeve, but it's a good one.

Speaker 2 (02:46:40):
I didn't cook for ten years because my mum scolded
me or getting up before my parents and preparing them
breakfast and I made a mess on the kitchen counter.

Speaker 1 (02:46:55):
Oh thank goodness. I didn't get on them for it,
so I didn't scar them for life.

Speaker 2 (02:47:00):
Yeah, I didn't cook for ten years.

Speaker 1 (02:47:03):
That is a core memory for you, my man. Yeah, like,
I do not want to do that.

Speaker 2 (02:47:08):
There was no thank you for breakfast, thank you for
waking up early, and nothing like that. It was look
at the mess you made the kitchen. Why haven't you
cleaned this up. Well, I was going to clean it
up after David David.

Speaker 1 (02:47:26):
So a few days ago Monday, my seven year old said, Dad,
do you want a bagel? And I said, sure so,
and he just learned how to use the toaster, so
he splits it, puts it in the toast and says,
what would you like on it?

Speaker 2 (02:47:42):
And I said butter.

Speaker 1 (02:47:43):
Now he likes his bagels with cream teese. And as
we all know, you got to kick that stuff on there.
So this kid five minutes before he has to leave
to go to school, so mom's taking him out the door.
Usually that's my job. Thank you, mom. She's a good
woman and child of mine. And I thanked him so much,
profusely for it brings me a bagel with three quarters

(02:48:08):
of a stick of butter between the two halves, pile
the funny feast, Thank you, bad good man. And and
I sat there and waited until he left, before I
even took a bite, and I scraped all the butter
off because now I got a butter bagel, and and
saved half a cuba or half a stick of butter.

(02:48:28):
And I understand completely. They're cute when they're that agy.
Oh yeah, you know what I mean, they do fun things.

Speaker 2 (02:48:36):
Pet peeve of daves is we got about three minutes
to go here. Let's go outside of people who ate
breakfast foods for dinner, because that one really picks my hide. Okay,
I hate the term for babies. Oh no, they're pets.
Can't stand it.

Speaker 1 (02:48:57):
Boor legged for a baby.

Speaker 2 (02:48:59):
You're dog is not a fur baby. It is a pet.
It has always been a pet. Hey, I realize you
may love your dog. I got a great dog. I've
had great dogs in the past. Or your cat or
your Gerbil or your boet constrictor or whatever. They're not human.
They're pets. Drives me nutspan drives me nuts.

Speaker 1 (02:49:24):
I got a good one for you. This is you
know how many cars they own, and a lot of
them are show cars. And this goes with every child
of mine. My youngest does two different things that really
drive me crazy. My oldest children know not to do
either of them. The first one touching the paint of

(02:49:49):
my car when it's dusty. Do not do it. Do
not write I love you Dad in it. I don't.
I tell them, just hey, try not to do that.
But even though it's super sweet when they it it's like,
I have a really really expensive paying job on this
classic car of mine, Please don't write in it. The

(02:50:10):
second one is when my son and all of my
children have done this in the past, and I've told
all of them, so my oldest and my seven year
old now know it. Don't touch the inside of the
back glass of the windows because I have to clean that. Well.
Just recently it got cold enough before I broke my leg,

(02:50:31):
my son was in the car, or my my sled
my obs slammed out whatever, anyways, and he's like, hey, Dad,
why is there all those marks on the back glass
of your window? And I look in the roof of
your mirror and I see hamprints, like a big montage
of hamdprints on the back glass of my truck because

(02:50:52):
it's moisten there. You know, it got cold. And I said,
that's you touching the glass, Bud. So now, can when
we when we get after school, when you get out
of school and we come home, can you get the
wind decks and clean off my back window. And he's like, well,
that's a lot of work. And I'm like, yeah, that's
the reason why I tell you not to do it.
He's like Okay, Well, when I got home, I did it.

(02:51:16):
So when he gets home, he literally came to me
and or came to my wife and said, where's the
glass cleaning stuff? And she gave him windecks and a
paper towel. And he came to me as sweet as
he is and says, I'm a ready dad. And I said,
I already did it for you.

Speaker 2 (02:51:31):
But you're a good dad. Man, you are a good dad.
As we wrap this up, my final pet peeve of
the night, authentication codes. Those are the spawn of hell
right there, authentication codes. Let's make a billion dollars on
selling fear that you're going to get hacked, and now

(02:51:55):
we have an authentication code for everything. Drives me nuts.
And Baker, thank you for a great UFO report. As
we say hello, mister Ron. Bubblefoot ball rocking in the
background with little brother is watching. Bumblefoot is the official
music of Spaced Out Radio, rocking us in and out
of every single show. Get your horns up for the

(02:52:18):
guitar god himself. Special Thanks everybody listening in at work,
at home, in your cars, wherever you may be. Thank
you to everyone in our chat rooms Tonight, YouTube, twitch, Lgap, Facebook, Spreaker,
LinkedIn the Space Travelers Club and on x at hashtag
spaced out Radio. Remember this show is copy right by

(02:52:45):
space Out Radio my Bigfoot Broadcasting Limited. Thank you so
much for choosing this year your evening with us, because together,
my friends.

Speaker 9 (02:52:55):
Watching, we own the nights Bumblefoot. We need a favors,
We need you to take us home.

Speaker 2 (02:53:13):
Yes, the WU train has docked for the night, but soon,
my friends, we shall ride again. Your seats are always available,
your tickets never expire, and if you want to bring
a friend, we got room for them too. Good Night, everybody,
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